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« Reply #330 on: February 12, 2012, 10:27:31 AM »

I work as a page at the local library, and though it definitely requires more work than i expected, the fact that they're paying me $10 an hour as a 17-year-old kid who has only ever worked at a skateshop is pretty good. 10 hrs a week, which is manageable with school and skating. Stoked on it. I also will most likely work at the shop again when i go home for the summer.
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« Reply #331 on: March 12, 2012, 11:19:43 AM »

Any plumbers in the house?

I've been browsing community college programs again, and plumbing stands out as one of the best paying and stable trades to get into.  Plus it's only one year and wouldn't require me to upgrade any high school classes.  Aside from unpleasant odors and messes.. are there any other downsides? 
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« Reply #332 on: March 12, 2012, 04:46:13 PM »

Any plumbers in the house?

I've been browsing community college programs again, and plumbing stands out as one of the best paying and stable trades to get into.  Plus it's only one year and wouldn't require me to upgrade any high school classes.  Aside from unpleasant odors and messes.. are there any other downsides? 
are you claustrophobic? sometimes you have to get into some pretty tight spots. same with electricians. both good trades and you can make some really good money if you get in with the right places.
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« Reply #333 on: March 12, 2012, 05:10:08 PM »

I have read that enclosed spaces and heights sometimes come into play..  I'm not really a fan of either, but I refuse to bus tables forever, so my willingness to man up is increasing.  Hopefully I can have a partner tie a rope to my ankle and pull me out if need be.
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« Reply #334 on: March 12, 2012, 07:35:02 PM »

I have read that enclosed spaces and heights sometimes come into play..  I'm not really a fan of either, but I refuse to bus tables forever, so my willingness to man up is increasing.  Hopefully I can have a partner tie a rope to my ankle and pull me out if need be.

I'd check on their union policies as well.  Some people aren't cool with that.
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« Reply #335 on: March 13, 2012, 04:36:04 AM »

my client pissed me off to the point that i asked the company that i'm sub-contracting through to move me to another project. i just had lunch with our lead architect yesterday and he told me there's a spot on another project that i should be able to move to. my current project is working with a bunch of ball busting assholes in a shithole of an office with no sun light and the blandest kind of cube. i talked to someone who's worked on the new project and he told me the office is newly remodled and really nice and that the company is super laid back; like to the point that they have play stations and beer in the office and then you can work from home if you want. the downside is that the actual work will get way less interesting than on my current project. at this point though, i'd rather take the less interesting work and leave the stress behind.
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« Reply #336 on: March 13, 2012, 05:55:04 AM »

to the point that they have play stations and beer in the office and then you can work from home if you want. the downside is that the actual work will get way less interesting than on my current project.
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« Reply #337 on: March 13, 2012, 06:44:14 AM »

i definitely will. it's nice to step up your game at work but i've got plenty of interesting after hours projects that i'm working on to help me continue to progress. i just want a chill job at this point. tired of being stressed out over dumb shit.
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« Reply #338 on: March 13, 2012, 07:08:45 AM »

Skate Shop Owner.  I also bartend 3-4 nights a week.
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« Reply #339 on: March 13, 2012, 07:12:40 AM »

Skate Shop Owner.?  I also bartend 3-4 nights a week.

Which?
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« Reply #340 on: March 13, 2012, 07:37:39 AM »

Skate Shop Owner.?  I also bartend 3-4 nights a week.

Which?

I wonder if his signature will give the answer away?!

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« Reply #341 on: March 13, 2012, 07:47:23 AM »

Any plumbers in the house?

I've been browsing community college programs again, and plumbing stands out as one of the best paying and stable trades to get into.  Plus it's only one year and wouldn't require me to upgrade any high school classes.  Aside from unpleasant odors and messes.. are there any other downsides?  
I trained to be a plumber last year.

I assume you are in the US and things probably work differently over there. I'm in the UK and I'm finding it impossible to get into. For the few jobs that open up, they always expect you to have alot of previous experience. And no one will give you the time to get this experience.

Also over here a large amount of plumbing jobs in houses involve working on gas powered central heating systems. And you need to get a separate qualification to do that.
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« Reply #342 on: March 13, 2012, 07:59:00 AM »

Skate Shop Owner.?? ? I also bartend 3-4 nights a week.

Which?

I wonder if his signature will give the answer away?!

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Ya I supposed I could've looked there. Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed
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« Reply #343 on: March 13, 2012, 09:26:39 AM »

To the guy looking into plumbing:

I took the commercial/residential electrician program last year at a local community college.  Very similar to the plumbing program, you complete the program with a degree and then you must work under someone for x-amount of hours and take certain before achieving your license.  I went on to a larger university to continue school, and several of my electrician classmates are having hard times finding jobs.

The truth is the construction jobs are at a low right now, but the programs are definitely a great place to look into.  I'd encourage you to do plumbing & heating!  Also get a union job, that means you'll have to do some waiting after you complete the program but you won't regret it!
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« Reply #344 on: March 13, 2012, 11:22:15 AM »

Thanks for all the advice guys!  I know construction is slow in a lot of places right now, but in my city it seems condos and apts are popping up everywhere.  Plus, I've been told most new guys are only into construction plumbing, leaving more openings for repairs and residential or whatever.  I could see it would be easier to get into with knowledge in heating and other skills, but the courses here might touch on that too. 

Only problem is I should've looked into it months ago, as most colleges are full for September.  I'll keep looking though.. And would it be wise to get books now and start studying?  Or would that mess with me when I go to an actual school?
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« Reply #345 on: March 13, 2012, 03:26:33 PM »

Thanks for all the advice guys!  I know construction is slow in a lot of places right now, but in my city it seems condos and apts are popping up everywhere.  Plus, I've been told most new guys are only into construction plumbing, leaving more openings for repairs and residential or whatever.  I could see it would be easier to get into with knowledge in heating and other skills, but the courses here might touch on that too.  

Only problem is I should've looked into it months ago, as most colleges are full for September.  I'll keep looking though.. And would it be wise to get books now and start studying?  Or would that mess with me when I go to an actual school?

Go to the library and start teaching yourself basic info. With that, spend some time following/helping a crew/company small or big. Volunteer it (if you got some extra time) just to see and get a hands on approach. Through doing that and bullshitting, even unpaid can always pay off later. Just diversify your hustle and think of multiple approaches, even if they aren't as savvy to the mind at the minute. Consider it networking. Bug people, if you bug enough someone is bound to see that drive and take a notice. From there you can build if need be. Good luck. I've been thinking the trade route myself, an it's and honorable gig (which ever you choose), that's under appreciated. The world doesn't need a another communications or business major.

PS. If you ever think about becoming an expat or living in another country, check out what jobs are needed, and skilled tradesmen are usually in their top listings or at least mentioned regarding citizenship. If that's a route that proves to be interesting to you.
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« Reply #346 on: March 13, 2012, 06:04:24 PM »

Kitchen and Bath department supervisor at The Home Depot. I recently received a 40 cent raise. 
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« Reply #347 on: March 13, 2012, 07:16:38 PM »

I make money as a freelance assistant for artists and commercial photographers. 
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« Reply #348 on: March 13, 2012, 08:10:29 PM »

Working in a group home. Lot of downtime and privacy to do my own thing. Stoked that my boss gave me the days off I wanted. Downsides are I'm basically alone all day and there's no where to move up unless I want to work in the main office under flourescent lighting.
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« Reply #349 on: March 13, 2012, 08:51:13 PM »

Thanks for all the advice guys!  I know construction is slow in a lot of places right now, but in my city it seems condos and apts are popping up everywhere.  Plus, I've been told most new guys are only into construction plumbing, leaving more openings for repairs and residential or whatever.  I could see it would be easier to get into with knowledge in heating and other skills, but the courses here might touch on that too. 

Only problem is I should've looked into it months ago, as most colleges are full for September.  I'll keep looking though.. And would it be wise to get books now and start studying?  Or would that mess with me when I go to an actual school?

What me and many others did in our electrical program was try to get a job working for a local electrcian (plumber in your case).

They had us doing shit jobs working for shit wages, but you learn a lot about modern building code and the on-field experience is something a class can't teach you.

And if you're going to do plumbing, I highly recommend you to heating/air as well, businesses love that!
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« Reply #350 on: March 14, 2012, 12:57:07 PM »

The world doesn't need a another communications or business major.

Truer words never spoken, although a business major from the right school does mean you're paid for life. What the fuck do communications majors even do?
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« Reply #351 on: March 14, 2012, 02:14:53 PM »

The world doesn't need a another communications or business major.

Truer words never spoken, although a business major from the right school does mean you're paid for life. What the fuck do communications majors even do?

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« Reply #352 on: April 07, 2012, 01:26:08 PM »

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« Reply #353 on: April 07, 2012, 02:09:13 PM »

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« Reply #354 on: April 09, 2012, 10:53:01 AM »

^hahahaha

right now i'm doing social media/online ads/blogs/a little bit of graphic design and after effects, unfortunately all related to condo real estate. I've been forced to learn a lot since the company is quite disorganized and i have been given a few chances to make things to put on my after effects reel, plus my boss is flexible with hours and its pretty easy to lurk slap, so thats all good. But shit, is it ever boring. condos are pretty fucking wack in my opinion and the majority of the people you're forced to deal with in that area reflect that. thankfully most of the people at my actual are office are cool
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« Reply #355 on: April 09, 2012, 01:10:15 PM »

I feel really conflicted about my job right now.?  I work for a really small management/tech consulting firm (4 partners/14 people total).?  It pays well, hours aren't bad, travel a bunch (which can be good or bad, biz travel isn't the same as vacation and someties we go to shitty cities), partners are pretty cool.? 

The downside is that our work is usually in a really niche industry and I'm not getting exposed to different things.?  Also they aren't trying to grow (they're all rich and happy as the company is), so that means no promotions (you either own the company or you don't), although we do get a flat 5% raise every year plush good 401k matching.? 

I'm not sure if I should roll the dice on something new that may suck or just stay put and be happy I've got a job.? 

if it was me...

if you are planning to a career as a consultant then i'd strongly recomend building your personal brand.

- you are working at a company that doesn't have a sustainable business model and here is why.

you work at a company that is needs talented tech employees as it's a consulting company but the company isn't growing. talented tech employees can grow else where and so some will leave. of course there will the be loyal people who stay but for the most part anyone who is aggresively keeping up and innovating will eventually leave as their growth vector gets steeper while the company remains flat and the gap between their salary and market value increases. this will create problems for your company as the business model will require a shift to getting new talent but they will be hessitant to pay at market and if they do then  that will mean reduced margins (aka less cash for them). without growth and being in an industry with virtually no fixed cost as your cost of goods sold is mostly high end labor you have to grow to be sustainable.

- while you have a cushy comfortable job plot your next move

take advantage of this foresight into the future problems your company will face to plan your next move. your an IT guy who by the sounds of it has a cushy 40 hour week schedule and travels to lame places giving you lots of idle time in airports, plains, motels. put in an extra 10 hours a week on continuous improvement in a way that brands you as a consultant. start a blog, join or start an opensource, hustle some talking sessions at local conferences, post content to other reputable blogs (code project, ect...), get high status on tech forums (MSDN, stackoverflow, etc...), contact publishers and volunteer to tech review books for free... anything you can do that will give you a resume bullet and allow you to say why in a room of 10 people with the same core skill you should get paid more and have more responsiblity.

- find a new job

then once you've built it up, look for another job while you still have your current job. and the most important part is to do your research, figure out what the top market rates are and then lie. say you make the top rate at your current job as they can't check. after having built up your brand with the things mentioned above they will believe you and they never check after the fact (and if they are going to they have to get your approval to do so before they hire you in writing so you will know).  this approach is just like a degree once you build it up, as long as you can handle the work you are good to go, no one is going to care if you have a degree after your first professional job as you know have "equivelent experience."

don't get locked in with a company that has an unsustainable business model. when push comes to shuv it'll be your income, not theirs, that suffers. and if you are going to be a consultant then build your own brand in your free time to pump up your rates. you'd be suprised at how much more you can get than your coworkers by doing this.

Their biz model is super sustainable.  They've had the company for 22 years.  The reason they aren't growing is because they don't want to.  They get enough work, make good cash and don't have to work the long hours of a top consulting firm.  The four partners are heavyweights in our industry (aerospace/aviation).  Two came from a big aerospace co. and two came from a huge mgt. consulting firm.

I don't work in IT consulting, mainly restructuring and strategic panning relating to product development.  I went undergrad engineering, MS in EE from a state school, and MBA from a top 15-20ish school.  We have a couple guys we use if we need web/app development or need to tell a client what IT assets they should think about.

They treat us really good.  Kind of like a family vibe because they hate dealing with HR stuff, so they want us to stick around.  The only way I would have made more after biz school would have been finance, oil, or a big consulting firm.  They've hinted that myself and 2-3 other guys could possibly take over in 10 years or so. 

My only hesitance is that I'm not super into the industry.  I used to get to work on projects in a bunch of different arenas.  Either way, it's awesome to have a job.  Good luck to everyone else in this thread.  It's tough out there.
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« Reply #356 on: April 09, 2012, 02:10:51 PM »

Architect, just your standard house/office/building job, except I work for an awesome firm doing primarily modern design and sustainable work. I'm not as experienced as the other people I work with but it's still pretty nice, I get a lot of input and its a good learning environment.
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« Reply #357 on: April 09, 2012, 03:17:19 PM »

Alright, I went back to school last year, after working in youth group homes for 5 years. I'll be done with the degree in May. I'm looking for some positions in grad school for next year, but otherwise have no idea what to do. The degree is in English and for an undergrad my CV is looking strong.

I don't want to work in a public school, which I think, with my experience supervising homes of at risk youth, a degree, and being a little older might be a viable option.

I was offered a job teaching English at a Panassastra University in Cambodia but I'm unsure if I have the nerve to head there for a year.

US forest service jobs might be a great way to work hard for a year or two as well.

I'll do well and do what I want, but, fuck, I do not want to start working 2nd shift again.
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« Reply #358 on: April 09, 2012, 07:37:52 PM »

Unemployed. Have a degree and office drone work exp. Trying to get retarded admin job anywhere cuz I have no interests or aspirations in life besides skateboarding and playing guitar. Burnin' thru savings on rent. Just want enough to pay the bills without having to do too much of anything. Ideally seeking a favorable disparity between the amount of money I receive for the amount of work that I do. I also do freelance writing jobs for what amounts to less than half of my monthly beer intake.
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« Reply #359 on: April 10, 2012, 02:44:17 AM »

The world doesn't need a another communications or business major.

Truer words never spoken, although a business major from the right school does mean you're paid for life. What the fuck do communications majors even do?

Not necessarily.  When people think of business majors, they typically think of Patrick Bateman Wall St. assholes, but business actually teaches a lot of life skills many college graduates lack.  Before you get into your concentration you have to take the basics in everything.

Accounting- Teaches you how to manage your income/expenditures/savings.  Many young people are very bad at this.

Economics- Micro is all about how to get the most bang for your buck, "Utility."  Macro is all about how the world economy works- Individuals, corporations, small businesses, governments, various regulations all together living the dream.

Marketing- How to sell yourself or your product.

Management- How to plan your life.  Tons of stuff about how to start a business, working with customers and suppliers.  Budgeting to make a profit.  This can work for business or personal settings. 

Obviously if you are super passionate about something, like art or history, then you should major in it, but business from a decent university is a great platform to develop life skills. 
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