an insider prospective on the skate industry

[rawbertson.]

haha i dont even think that was a real guy posting it. who would actually say "IM IN LA COUNTY" a second time at the bottom.

[liquidswords]

Really? You were in LA County and have the nerve to talk shit about mind field? I worked at a skateshop and somehow got a copy of that video for free, watched it once, and then decided I would never have the desire to watch it again and threw it out.

LA county > Mindfield

[ChrisGilmour]

Really? You were in LA County and have the nerve to talk shit about mind field? I worked at a skateshop and somehow got a copy of that video for free, watched it once, and then decided I would never have the desire to watch it again and threw it out.

LA county > Mindfield

not to mention Extremely Sorry and the new Zero video

[somekid]

1] no such thing as a switch half cab heel. it's a nollie half cab heel if it was popped off the nose.

2] who the fuck is this dude and why should i care? anyone?

k

NO SUCH THING AS A NOLLIE CAB.

[Inanimate Object]

Really? You were in LA County and have the nerve to talk shit about mind field? I worked at a skateshop and somehow got a copy of that video for free, watched it once, and then decided I would never have the desire to watch it again and threw it out.

LA county > Mindfield

No. Fetishizing Menace Tech doesn't give you any specific insight into what makes a good video.

[Ronald Wilson Reagan]

I have shit taste in skateboarding

Agreed. Let's not argue.

[kamltoe]

1] no such thing as a switch half cab heel. it's a nollie half cab heel if it was popped off the nose.

2] who the fuck is this dude and why should i care? anyone?

k

NO SUCH THING AS A NOLLIE CAB.

i mentioned a nollie half-cab heel, which is definitely a trick so...


...your point?

k

[Ronald Wilson Reagan]

1] no such thing as a switch half cab heel. it's a nollie half cab heel if it was popped off the nose.

2] who the fuck is this dude and why should i care? anyone?

k

NO SUCH THING AS A NOLLIE CAB.

i mentioned a nollie half-cab heel, which is definitely a trick so...


...your point?

k

Actually, a lot of people would say that there is no such thing as that trick either. I call them nollie frontside heelflips, but don't really care if you say it the other way. But technically, your nomenclature is wrong.

[H8R part 4]

1] no such thing as a switch half cab heel. it's a nollie half cab heel if it was popped off the nose.

2] who the fuck is this dude and why should i care? anyone?

k

NO SUCH THING AS A NOLLIE CAB.

i mentioned a nollie half-cab heel, which is definitely a trick so...


...your point?

k

he was saying that theres only one type of cab and its only done fakie, be it 180(half cab) or 360(full cab or caballerial).

when its done nollie, its a FS nollie heel or a nollie FS heel depending on where you like putting in the FS.

so technically a nollie cab doesn't exist.  i would call it a switch cab before calling it a nollie cab but i'm weird.

[BriDen]

You might be weird, but at least you're the most heterosexual poster on slap.

[H8R part 4]

You might be weird, but at least you're the most heterosexual poster on slap.

http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=33&topic=40965.60
 

[Chris P. Bacon]

so some guy who i've never heard of had a part in a video i've never seen, but he's the authority on the skate industry, not the extremely successful company owner, or the living legend skateboarder.

friend, i say this with love and respect, go die in a fire

agreed.

[stevedave]

hahaha, i love this argument..I too, have always been one to say that the word CAB/CABALLERIAL implies the word FAKIE.  therefore, there is no such thing as nollie cab, 1/2 cab or whatever...i understand what people are talking about when they say it, but to me (and like I said, to each their own), it's a nollie f/s or b/s 180, nollie f/s heel...prime example would be nollie b/s flip...it's NOT called a nollie b/s 1/2 cab flip, is it??  but you do call a fakie one a f/s 1/2 cab flip (as opposed to a regular 1/2 cab flip)...

i think i just shorted out my own brain....but yea..

[rawbertson.]

this how i say it: (it is not the industry way to say thigns by any means i just think it makes the most sense cause then there is NO QUESTION as to what you are talking about.)

nollie half cab heelflip,
nollie bs heelflip

nollie cab heelflip
nollie 360 heelflip

half cab heel
fakie bs heelflip (no one else calls it that but it makes more sense. it fits with nollie bs heelflip)

and everyone will know what you are talking about. if someone says nollie half cab you obviously know what they are talking about. if you say nollie bs 180 everyone will know what you are talking about. its FAKIE that fucks with everything. everyone will call the fs verson a half cab, but then the bs version people always throw out the fucking strangest shit. they say "Frontside Halfcab Heel" or "fakie fs heel". but a halfcab IS FRONTSIDE (isnt it?).

i think this makes the most sense - when you are doing a 180 and you are going blind side that should be a backside 180, no matter which stance. i have actually been saying "fakie blindside heel" lately because that is even more precise. no one should be confused as to what you are talking about. if you dont say half cab in the name you should basically assume its the other way. its just so much easier.

i know im wrong im just saying my way would make it easier.

[MexicanSpaniard]

Is it only called a gay twist if you grab?

[Rihardslol]

nollie fs halfcab fakie heelflip backside

[Ronald Wilson Reagan]

Fakie b/s heelflip is not the proper way to describe a f/s half cab heel.

[H8R part 4]

its weird when i hear people throw the 180 in there when they're talking about a trick.  
nobody says fs 180 kickflip, people say frontside flip or a frontside heel, backside flip or backside heel.  
so why throw the 180 in there when its done nollie?  why not just say FS nollie heel?

i don't say the number unless someones doing a 360 even then i just say the "3" and drop the "side" like,
he did a "front 3 down" the double set yo!
he did a "back 3 nollie flip" to manual kid, it was sick!  

maybe i'm just weird but one things for certain, trick names are way too long these days.



and yes its always funny when people talk about fakie, so many people get it wrong.  but the real pisser is when i bust out my buttery ass switch nollies, then nobody can step to me!

[rawbertson.]

Fakie b/s heelflip is not the proper way to describe a f/s half cab heel.

but isnt a halfcab already frontside?

[grimcity]

Is it only called a gay twist if you grab?

Yeah, fakie up the wall to backside 360 with a backside grab.

but isnt a halfcab already frontside?

Cabs are backside by default.

[Ronald Wilson Reagan]

Fakie b/s heelflip is not the proper way to describe a f/s half cab heel.

but isnt a halfcab already frontside?

The one you are talking about is actually backside, whatever it would be forward, it is fakie, so doing a frontside heel while rolling fakie is a frontside half cab heel.

[rawbertson.]

we should just call it "cherry flip"
"man i was stoked like gonz named my trick!"

[kamltoe]

1] no such thing as a switch half cab heel. it's a nollie half cab heel if it was popped off the nose.

2] who the fuck is this dude and why should i care? anyone?

k

NO SUCH THING AS A NOLLIE CAB.

i mentioned a nollie half-cab heel, which is definitely a trick so...


...your point?

k

Actually, a lot of people would say that there is no such thing as that trick either. I call them nollie frontside heelflips, but don't really care if you say it the other way. But technically, your nomenclature is wrong.

i know what you're saying, but you're just arguing semantics (heheh). we can say nollie half cab flip, or nollie fs flip and people will know what you mean. a switch fakie anything isn't even possible. i didn't mean to start the old argument again, but it's definitely a trick and anyone who skates will know what you mean if you say that trick. fakie switch...not so much.

k

[carbonite]

No. Fetishizing Menace Tech doesn't give you any specific insight into what makes a good video.

^.sig material


ps. the real chris franzen and i exchanged emails a while back; he's doing okay.

pps. LA County is like the Torah of Menace Tech

[Alan]

pps. LA County is like the Torah of Menace Tech

Oh, I get it.

[BriDen]

Is it only called a gay twist if you grab?

Yeah, fakie up the wall to backside 360 with a backside grab.

WOW, really? I've thought for years that gay twists were frontside. I've heard the term "lez twist" thrown around in the same context but thought it was a joke... any input on that one?

[Alan]

It's a cab with a mute grab.

[Chris P. Bacon]

Fakie b/s heelflip is not the proper way to describe a f/s half cab heel.

but isnt a halfcab already frontside?

The one you are talking about is actually backside, whatever it would be forward, it is fakie, so doing a frontside heel while rolling fakie is a frontside half cab heel.

the gipper is right, whatever it is going forward, it is going fakie. but you substitute BACKSIDE for HALF CAB. and if youre doing a frontside turn its FRONTSIDE HALF CAB.  thats that.

[Ronald Wilson Reagan]

1] no such thing as a switch half cab heel. it's a nollie half cab heel if it was popped off the nose.

2] who the fuck is this dude and why should i care? anyone?

k

NO SUCH THING AS A NOLLIE CAB.

i mentioned a nollie half-cab heel, which is definitely a trick so...


...your point?

k

Actually, a lot of people would say that there is no such thing as that trick either. I call them nollie frontside heelflips, but don't really care if you say it the other way. But technically, your nomenclature is wrong.

i know what you're saying, but you're just arguing semantics (heheh). we can say nollie half cab flip, or nollie fs flip and people will know what you mean. a switch fakie anything isn't even possible. i didn't mean to start the old argument again, but it's definitely a trick and anyone who skates will know what you mean if you say that trick. fakie switch...not so much.

k

ha ha ha.I do know exactly what you mean. And THAT is what arguing semantics is.

[watershed]

i'm not sure if the guy who started this thread is the real chris franzen but i seen that dude back in like 97 or something i cant remember the date but no lie he switch f/s heeled the lockwood table on flat in a pair of timberland boots.....he was on like deca flow i think.