Let's Argue About Trick Names

[bumpnrun]

If memory serves me right, Ocean Howell definitely didn't invent bigspins.  He had like 2 tricks in Hokus Pokus at the end. 

This might be the earliest big spin I can remember (35 sec).  He also does fakie big flip.

Brian Lotti, Hokus Pokus, 1989.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-y7OWZDhT8
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Brian Lotti, Gullwing Full power Trip, 1990.  fakie bigger flip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCAfGFXXKLI
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The reason I know fakie big spins was first is because it's a stock trick in Hokus Pokus, where as a standard big spin is done by only Lotti.

[j....soy.....]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYKWli-pOU0
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2:57?  fakie big?  i kept watching it going...'come on ray...how many step hops do you have to do until you do the fakie big...'

pretty sure i learned it on a mark partain....the blockhead one...not the renegade one....

[bbk]

I believe a nosepick is only a nosepick if you grab out. Otherwise, it's a nose pivot. That's just a personal belief.

on the noseslide shove stuff, a noseslide shove-it would be where the board goes to fakie but your body goes back to forwards. you could say a noseslide to what he's talking about is a bigspin out, but that tricks been called noseslide 270 shove since it was invented. i won't argue that bigspin is "incorrect" but i've never actually heard it called that.

a 270 shove would be the same way as the normal shove you mentioned, away from you...

if you throw a heelflip in the trick he talked about there's no way you'd call it a laserflip,

[oyolar]

Heelflip body varial=disco flip.

What about forward flips? Or do you call them dolphin flips? Or the youtube comment favorite-murder/nightmare flip?

[grizz]

how about 1/2 flips? there are the half flip caspers that ed templeton used to rock, and the 1/2 flip back to regular (w/o the casper) like thiebaud does in speed freaks (we called those "tuna flips" at the time, don't know why, 1/2 flip is probably fine), the 1/2 flip casper version where you turn with it b/s 180 like chris hall does in 1281 i believe... all that crap. then we get into back foot flips, nollie front foot flips, shove-it late kickflips, all the weird 1992 stuff... endless.

for the half flip stuff, don't forget june cate in stun:

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360 half flip!?? (around 0:50)

he does a lot of curb doggin' in that part too, you might want to dissect some of those tricks.

[j....soy.....]

Yoshi Flip!  someone....break it down....

[Alan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbEA-39rNFs
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3:52

Half flip?

[cheep]

this doesnt really relate... but one of the only late flip tricks ive ever seen done that looks as good as a regular flip trick is this one that a friend of mine did.... bigspin late flip or pop shove late hardflip??? pop shove late flip??  i dont really know what youd call it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HTovl2kIhY
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[j....soy.....]

go start a shirtless friend thread.....

[Ronald Wilson Reagan]

Heelflip body varial=disco flip.

What about forward flips? Or do you call them dolphin flips? Or the youtube comment favorite-murder/nightmare flip?

don't forget circus flip

[HoneyBear]

what about this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1hc8U57Rsc
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i've heard people call in a noseblunt but it's pretty much a noseslide on the other side of the hubba.Can anyone clear things up?

[MexicanSpaniard]

Today I heard a fruit booter refer to some dance manuever on a ledge of the tight pant wearing one as cess slide.

[Ronald Wilson Reagan]

what about this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1hc8U57Rsc

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i've heard people call in a noseblunt but it's pretty much a noseslide on the other side of the hubba.Can anyone clear things up?

ollie over to noseblunt I would say. That's usually what you hear for that type of trick. Like darrell's shit down clipper is an ollie over to front blunt. I've also hear people call them "aultz slides" even though I don't think the dude invented them.

[Ice Cream For Crow]

Yeah I always call those over blunts.

Does anybody else cringe when they hear dolphin flip? I always just called them foward flips.

What about the Flamingo? I never heard it called that until a few years ago. I could have sworn they were originally pretzel plants. I like pretzel plant more.

[Mr_Friendly]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP3FbHmfzm8
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My friend and I sort of accidentally stumbled onto these on a flatbar, we called them "will smiths" because we figured it was basically an ollie over to willy, my other friend told me its called a "bag lady". I honestly have no idea, anybody know?

[layzieyez]

I remember hearing nollie back heel referred to as Koston flip.

[mock nugget]

Yeah I always call those over blunts.

Does anybody else cringe when they hear dolphin flip? I always just called them foward flips.

What about the Flamingo? I never heard it called that until a few years ago. I could have sworn they were originally pretzel plants. I like pretzel plant more.

I've never heard pretzel plant before, but I have heard calf wrap. And I'm pretty sure flamingo is the same as calling a rail-stand a primo, not the original name for it but widely used and accepted regardless.

[H8R part 4]

there is only a handful of specific tricks names that actually sound cool (i.e. stalefish, blunt).  most tricks that have been given their own name after the early 90's is pretty bad and the trick names used in THPS titles are beyond retarded.


ollie over nose/blunt = ollie over nose/tailslide

you rarely see someone do a legit blunt trick down a handrail, they usually come out looking like nose/tailslides.  i can do what people would consider a halfcab bluntslide on the flatbar but in my mind, i know its really a ollie over halfcab tailslide.   IMO, a bluntslide has to be pointing upwards and the tip of your tail/nose has to be hanging off the edge.   that said, my standards tend to be kind of high. 

[oyolar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP3FbHmfzm8

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My friend and I sort of accidentally stumbled onto these on a flatbar, we called them "will smiths" because we figured it was basically an ollie over to willy, my other friend told me its called a "bag lady". I honestly have no idea, anybody know?

It's a bag lady. Or over-willy, but that sounds so dumb.

[mock nugget]

Haha I think that a Will Smith would be a good name for that ugly fakie barley grind someone was talking about earlier.

[EricLogan]

Haha I think that a Will Smith would be a good name for that ugly fakie barley grind someone was talking about earlier.

hahah wat!? like a fs halfcab to lazy grind? that's what I imagine that being. or by Whitely's logic about fakie hurricaines, that would be a fakie ollie to switch front smith?

Does anybody else cringe when they hear dolphin flip? I always just called them foward flips.

Yeah man. In my mind, that trick was Dan Heasslers' for so long that I just call it forward flip because he does. I guess him and Matt Beach both started doing them around the same time, and Beach calls them Dolphin flips. Any truth behind this?

[Alan]

They did them first? I just assumed Darrell was the inventor...

[EricLogan]

sarcasm? even if so, I doubt those dudes did the trick first, but they're the first quasi well-known dudes I know of who did that trick forever ago

[Alan]

No sarcasm, I've really no idea on the origins, just saying when/where I saw it first...

[kevbo999]

Any willy variation should just be called ugly piece of shit grind.

[mock nugget]

^^^Ok in most cases I'd agree, but once I saw Ed Driscol do a backside willy and then pop nollie out of it on a ledge to bank, and it was pretty amazing looking.

[BriDen]

No sarcasm, I've really no idea on the origins, just saying when/where I saw it first...

I don't know what exactly qualifies as a forward flip since most of them just look like shitty varial flips, but if the ones that Jimmy Carlin do are indeed forward flips, I know somebody did one out of a 50-50 in one of the H-Street videos.

[brazillionaire]

yeah.. them wierd trick names will always be there from one town to another

but if yall ever come here to brazil you might have some trouble.. its not that we dont know how to name the tricks, everyone knows how theyre called in the states, but we have some major differences

In Brazil it goes like this:
- kickflip = (just) flip
- 360 flip = kickflip (or for short, just) kick...... so, dont say you kickflipped that 10, cause you just didnt!
- shove-it/pop shove-it = varial (for both)
- fs shove-it/pop = (just) shove-it
- boardslide = rockslide
- lipslide = boardslide........... yeah my friend, dont say you can bs board that rail, cuz ya jus CANT!
- 5-0 = (just) grind

i guess it started with some misunderstandings waaaay back in the good ol' days
now its just like, nothing will change

[Alan]

Well that's a whole new thread right there! Local trick names. You should start it.

[Ronald Wilson Reagan]

yeah.. them wierd trick names will always be there from one town to another

but if yall ever come here to brazil you might have some trouble.. its not that we dont know how to name the tricks, everyone knows how theyre called in the states, but we have some major differences

In Brazil it goes like this:
- kickflip = (just) flip
- 360 flip = kickflip (or for short, just) kick...... so, dont say you kickflipped that 10, cause you just didnt!
- shove-it/pop shove-it = varial (for both)
- fs shove-it/pop = (just) shove-it
- boardslide = rockslide
- lipslide = boardslide........... yeah my friend, dont say you can bs board that rail, cuz ya jus CANT!
- 5-0 = (just) grind

i guess it started with some misunderstandings waaaay back in the good ol' days
now its just like, nothing will change

If a boardslide= a lipslide, wouldn't a b/s board just be the same as a b/s lip?