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« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2012, 03:23:09 PM »

pre fab parks can be fun as long as they got a decent sized mini ramp, now theres a shit ton of concrete parks where i grew up but back in the day we had to deal with that shit
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« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2012, 04:35:05 PM »

spohn ranch over arc anyday.
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« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2012, 07:54:15 PM »

To the dude who's cement park is cracking up- quikrete is easy to use and pretty cheap. Just be sure to roughen the smooth parts you blend the patch on, otherwise it can't grab and will chip off. Then water gets in and it falls apart. if you don't have basic experience with cement then yeah, approace the city in an intelligent manner. Don't say "it's dangerous," say that "small repairs now will prevent further erosion before it gets so bad it requires more expensive maintenance." Their primary interest is money, show them how it makes sense for their wallet to deal with it.

Fuckin ARC. Even the 1/4's that were "good" example look like they have an annoying little bump at the bottom. Fuck these guys and their shoddy parks, I'm glad spohn blew the whistle. They have their own interests too, but part of that is building good cement parks so let them profit.

I'll have fun on any shitty ramp you give me, but these parks have no character, they're usually back and forth, hit box in middle, and you can go on a road trip and skate the exact same 1/4 in 10 different states. That sounds pretty boring, never having to learn the lines of an unfamiliar place. It's like going on a street skating mission and just skating the exact same flatbar in 8 different parking lots. That defeats the purpose of street skating like these things defeat the purpose of park skating. Don't know if that makes sense, the beer is flowing like wine, sorry.
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« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2012, 08:48:40 PM »

American Ramp Company (ARC) Promo Video
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« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2012, 09:01:58 PM »

I never understood the idea of curb height rails.
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« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2012, 11:15:58 PM »


I hope they win their lawsuit, pre-fab parks are terrible.  But many of the pics didn't seem that bad,  I've seen SkateWave stuff in far worse shape.


dude i run a skatewave park.... shit is horrible and they wont come fix it despite their life time warranty
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« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2012, 11:07:10 AM »

lots of towns are unhappy with skatewave..... there needs to be a class-action suit brought against them as well.

and to all the "its better than nothing," and "i can have fun there" dudes-- the issue isn't how good or bad the parks are, the issue is that they invariably get damaged over use, and the companies refuse to honor their warranty. they'll claim "vandalism," "improper use," or any number of other bullshit excuses caused the damage to avoid paying up. plus, in a lot of places, the obstacles get stolen.... which is fun if you and your crew are the ones that swiped it, but it sucks for everyone else.



a pre fab park is better than no park at all in most cases.
no, it's not. once the shitty prefab park is thrown up, it gives cops, security, and overzealous citizens the ability to say "just go to the skatepark" every time you try to skate somewhere. and when the skatepark is some overpriced piece of shit that's falling apart, that's a problem.
With cops you say to them "Gee officer, there's a park in town?! What does it look like? Wow! That sounds like fun! Can you tell us where it is? Thanks for all the help!" and flip the script on a potential bust. You don't have to go there. With a citizen you just make fun of the piece of shit they call a park and then offer them a good Samaritan award

Some pro skater said something about bad parks along the lines of "if you saw most of the obstacles integrated into an actual street spot you would be hyped." It's a good approach to a shitty park. Obviously everybody likes good parks more than bad parks, and prefab parks are certainly bad, but if there's nothing better, fuck it.



agree with this. do you think a cop or security would ever think "i would kick these kids out, but since there isnt a close skatepark ill let it slide". i think in most cases the thought wouldnt cross their mind
not exactly as you've described, but i've seen it happen. i grew up in a small town in the midwest. not a lot of spots, but a few. kids used to be able to skate spots like the middle school and stuff pretty much hassle free. (i realize that small midwestern farm towns aren't exactly a barometer for how the rest of the wold operates, but whatever.) once the town built a shitty plywood playground, everything became an instabust. now that plywood shitfest is rotted out, and the kids get kicked out of everywhere.... i got chased out of a parking lot while just crossing it last time i was back there visiting family.
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« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2012, 02:37:16 PM »

The prefab park near my house is actually pretty good.  It's all concrete and not that shitty plastic which makes a huge difference.  They also laid it out pretty good which is important to make it fun. 
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« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2012, 06:27:22 PM »

My city is on that list. I find it quite funny considering how my city never had meetings to make a park, took and into their own hands, and now crying foul.  I would love a concrete park, but considering everything we most likely won't.
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« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2012, 06:39:45 PM »



i would be fucking hyped if a got some of these tricks, and doug really has a face i can trust
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« Reply #40 on: February 13, 2012, 05:24:21 PM »

My parks not pre fab, but the ground/flat is asphalt(sp?) And the ramps are all concrete, and now there's a lot of big cracks where they meet. We want to get the park resurfaced but are worried the city will just shut it down if we complain about its state/how unsafe it is.

please do not go near any moisture.
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« Reply #41 on: February 13, 2012, 05:49:08 PM »

What do you mean?
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« Reply #42 on: February 13, 2012, 11:39:36 PM »

Hopefully real concrete parks get poured everywhere
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« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2012, 07:43:36 AM »

skate wave is astonishingly horrible. so horrible thats its amazing that any one company can be so bad at what they do. I have skated some ok ARC parks but im sure i would retract that statement if i knew how much they cost to build.

word on the street is that this place was only 150,000 grand to build, so theres pretty  much no excuse anymore.
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« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2012, 09:10:52 AM »

Yeah Skate Wave is sooooo bad.


How do we add them to the lawsuit?
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« Reply #45 on: February 15, 2012, 11:13:03 AM »

pretty sure that would have to be a separate lawsuit.... the main obstacle you'd probably face would be getting the park and rec dudes in the cities that have dilapidated skatewave stuff to acknowledge there's even a problem.
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« Reply #46 on: February 15, 2012, 01:11:45 PM »

They built the Dew-tour bowl... the portable one that's nothing short of a work of art!

http://www.spohnranch.com/featured-parks/?park_id=1795
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« Reply #47 on: February 15, 2012, 01:27:25 PM »

to all the guys claiming it's better than nothing, i used to skate the ARC ez7 park and had fun but these parks close to my house in austin are just way, way better





we don't have to settle for shit just because we are skaters. i pay the same amount of taxes as football fans that have billion dollar stadiums in every city.
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« Reply #48 on: February 16, 2012, 02:15:27 PM »

looks like ARC put a statement on their website.  Spohn Racnch are idiots.
http://americanrampcompany.com/news/
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« Reply #49 on: February 16, 2012, 02:20:25 PM »

What do you mean?

well, you're ice nine, you know what will happen. god damn felix hoenniker.
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« Reply #50 on: February 16, 2012, 03:18:47 PM »



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« Reply #51 on: February 17, 2012, 02:17:06 PM »

http://espn.go.com/action/skateboarding/story/_/id/7586619/spohn-ranch-skatepark-construction-company-sues-rival-federal-court

"...the [Department of Justice] has decided [the] case has no merit and it is suspending its involvement in the matter"
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« Reply #52 on: February 17, 2012, 02:38:54 PM »

Nobody's cheering except you, Mr. ARC rep.
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« Reply #53 on: February 17, 2012, 07:35:22 PM »

I've been posting under the ARC lawsuit topic on Skatedaily.net under the user namd Skatepark Adv now this clown who is obviously an employee of ARC stole my user name and is trolling on the Slap boards trying to defend this garbage.  ARC has had its employees all over the web trying to question the validity of this lawsuit.  But while they bring up who brought the suit and whether it will get thrown out of court they never address the facts that they peddle this over priced junk to cities, leave skaters holding the bag when it rusts and falls apart, play bait and switch with their poured in place division using Hardcore Skateparks to get in the door and then talk the municipalities out of concrete in favor of metal prefab or modular concrete.
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« Reply #54 on: February 20, 2012, 01:23:55 PM »

i'll just leave this here....

http://skateparkwarranty.blogspot.com/

if you've got some bullshit in your town, post it up to that blog. stop allowing cities to give skateboarding dollars to payground companies.
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« Reply #55 on: February 20, 2012, 03:21:54 PM »

I've been posting under the ARC lawsuit topic on Skatedaily.net under the user namd Skatepark Adv now this clown who is obviously an employee of ARC stole my user name and is trolling on the Slap boards trying to defend this garbage.  ARC has had its employees all over the web trying to question the validity of this lawsuit.  But while they bring up who brought the suit and whether it will get thrown out of court they never address the facts that they peddle this over priced junk to cities, leave skaters holding the bag when it rusts and falls apart, play bait and switch with their poured in place division using Hardcore Skateparks to get in the door and then talk the municipalities out of concrete in favor of metal prefab or modular concrete.
Unless I'm misreading, are you saying someone stole a username here at Slap or are you talking about S&A?
If here, PM me the username and if I can verify that and I'll fix that for you. Sorry if I'm misunderstanding, been a long day at work and I'm currently high as a kite listening to 80's pop music. Hollaar.
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« Reply #56 on: February 20, 2012, 03:51:44 PM »

looks like ARC put a statement on their website.? ? Spohn Racnch are idiots.
http://americanrampcompany.com/news/


Hahaha. Could you be more obvious? Next time try wearing one of these:
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« Reply #57 on: February 20, 2012, 06:01:44 PM »

http://espn.go.com/action/skateboarding/story/_/id/7586619/spohn-ranch-skatepark-construction-company-sues-rival-federal-court

"...the [Department of Justice] has decided [the] case has no merit and it is suspending its involvement in the matter"



First, the owner of ARC, Nathan Bemo, sent an email on 2-17 to a huge email list of actual skaters who he thought gave a shit- it read

"http://espn.go.com/action/skateboarding/story/_/id/7586619/spohn-ranch-skatepark-construction-company-sues-rival-federal-court
 
"If the government declines to intervene ? it means the [Department of Justice] has decided [the] case has no merit and it is suspending its involvement in the matter,"


Besides the blatant twist of the actual verbiage from the lawsuit, this is an exact duplicate of the post here... have I ever mentioned I hate fucking cowards? Post your name bro, everyone here would love to debate this shit with you.

ARC has sold their bastard stepchild HARDCORE to California Skateparks so now I assume we will be seeing a renewed effort on their part to populate the world with steel. Should be an interesting year.

Also worth a read- http://americanrampcompany.com/news/
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« Reply #58 on: February 20, 2012, 06:18:42 PM »

So, apparently ARC thinks that all they need to do is continue to satisfy their customers just like they have been- Don't ostriches do something similar?

In our opinion, this lawsuit and the website designed to promote the lawsuit are nothing more than an attempt by Spohn Ranch to use the legal system, as opposed to its own product and services, to gain an advantage in the marketplace.

We at ARC are resolved to continue to manufacture quality products and continue to provide the same great service to which our loyal customers have grown accustomed.
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« Reply #59 on: February 20, 2012, 07:04:12 PM »

I've been posting under the ARC lawsuit topic on Skatedaily.net under the user namd Skatepark Adv now this clown who is obviously an employee of ARC stole my user name and is trolling on the Slap boards trying to defend this garbage.  ARC has had its employees all over the web trying to question the validity of this lawsuit.  But while they bring up who brought the suit and whether it will get thrown out of court they never address the facts that they peddle this over priced junk to cities, leave skaters holding the bag when it rusts and falls apart, play bait and switch with their poured in place division using Hardcore Skateparks to get in the door and then talk the municipalities out of concrete in favor of metal prefab or modular concrete.
Unless I'm misreading, are you saying someone stole a username here at Slap or are you talking about S&A?
If here, PM me the username and if I can verify that and I'll fix that for you. Sorry if I'm misunderstanding, been a long day at work and I'm currently high as a kite listening to 80's pop music. Hollaar.

I never had a Slap account named stop prefab it was just a user name I was going under on the Skatedaily.net comment section.  This guy didn't hack my account he just used the name I had been using on another site.  The difference is I was using that name on Skatedaily to actually hold ARC accountable for the terrible skateparks they build and their dishonest sales tactics while he is using it on Slap to defend these terrible parks to the detriment of skateboarders everywhere.
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