Ericly Later'd

[El Barto]

lance mountair episodes would be sick.

[j....soy.....]

Or even make a movie!

[Lenny the Fatface]

This just like the B.A. episodes, ended as if he just rushed through anything that was of recent memory.  Plus O'Dell kinda admitted that he wasnt a real koston fan anyways.


I usually like O'Dell's work but he really dropped the ball by not addressing:
1. His affiliation with Scientology
2. His affiliation with the No Limit Soldiers
3. Why is he even friends with Steve Berra
4. What was really the issue with the Alex Olson instabeef, was it the straw that broke the camel's back or is the berrics really that goddamn hard to run that you air a nigga out like that for talking slick.

[Nancy Chin The Manicurist]

This just like the B.A. episodes, ended as if he just rushed through anything that was of recent memory.  Plus O'Dell kinda admitted that he wasnt a real koston fan anyways.


I usually like O'Dell's work but he really dropped the ball by not addressing:
1. His affiliation with Scientology
2. His affiliation with the No Limit Soldiers
3. Why is he even friends with Steve Berra
4. What was really the issue with the Alex Olson instabeef, was it the straw that broke the camel's back or is the berrics really that goddamn hard to run that you air a nigga out like that for talking slick.

yeah, this one was pretty weird considering Alex was interviewed for the episode (there's a clip of him in the teaser trailer), but none of it was incorporated into the series.

A bunch of stuff definitely got glossed over/left on the cutting room floor like the B.A. episode . . .

[The Ghost of Lenny Kirk]

There was plenty of interesting shit that totally got glossed over. Like mike carroll not liking koston having his own agent instead of representing himself, the whole contest era, truely tackling being sponsored by shitty mainstream companies, the space between yeah right and fully flared. This shouldve been like 10 episodes minimum. Too much is glossed over after mouse. Next to nothing about menikmati? Fucking seriously? That part basically introduced koston to the early 2000s generation of skaters. This was not a very in depth series and its not like he puts these out consistently so theres no reason to hold back. This was 6 episodes of revisionist history and advertising and that really pisses me off.

[BraveUlysses]

This just like the B.A. episodes, ended as if he just rushed through anything that was of recent memory.  Plus O'Dell kinda admitted that he wasnt a real koston fan anyways.


I usually like O'Dell's work but he really dropped the ball by not addressing:
1. His affiliation with Scientology
2. His affiliation with the No Limit Soldiers
3. Why is he even friends with Steve Berra
4. What was really the issue with the Alex Olson instabeef, was it the straw that broke the camel's back or is the berrics really that goddamn hard to run that you air a nigga out like that for talking slick.

I highly doubt Koston would willingly discuss scientology stuff. He would either just straight up refuse to talk about it or be vague as fuck when discussing it.

[brycickle]

lance mountair episodes would be sick.

I back this idea fully.

[AssBandit]

There was plenty of interesting shit that totally got glossed over. Like mike carroll not liking koston having his own agent instead of representing himself, the whole contest era, truely tackling being sponsored by shitty mainstream companies, the space between yeah right and fully flared. This shouldve been like 10 episodes minimum. Too much is glossed over after mouse. Next to nothing about menikmati? Fucking seriously? That part basically introduced koston to the early 2000s generation of skaters. This was not a very in depth series and its not like he puts these out consistently so theres no reason to hold back. This was 6 episodes of revisionist history and advertising and that really pisses me off.

Yeah, I feel the same.  So few get access to high caliber skaters like O'dell.  He didn't use his opportunity to get a really in depth interview. I was acually less psyched on Koston after seeing it, and I really LOVE me some koston. I wonder if he's just lazy, or he caters to the sponsors and just leaves all the 'fluf' in to guarantee he gets his check.  Plus all that stuff tim was saying about being old was really bumming me out.  

I'm super psyched on a all dork trick part for the new video though.   Bring back the Chomp era Koston!

[Fairy Boy]

There was plenty of interesting shit that totally got glossed over. Like mike carroll not liking koston having his own agent instead of representing himself, the whole contest era, truely tackling being sponsored by shitty mainstream companies, the space between yeah right and fully flared. This shouldve been like 10 episodes minimum. Too much is glossed over after mouse. Next to nothing about menikmati? Fucking seriously? That part basically introduced koston to the early 2000s generation of skaters. This was not a very in depth series and its not like he puts these out consistently so theres no reason to hold back. This was 6 episodes of revisionist history and advertising and that really pisses me off.

Yeah, I feel the same.  So few get access to high caliber skaters like O'dell.  He didn't use his opportunity to get a really in depth interview. I was acually less psyched on Koston after seeing it, and I really LOVE me some koston. I wonder if he's just lazy, or he caters to the sponsors and just leaves all the 'fluf' in to guarantee he gets his check.  Plus all that stuff tim was saying about being old was really bumming me out.  

I'm super psyched on a all dork trick part for the new video though.   Bring back the Chomp era Koston!

I think these are really legitimate complaints, but to those saying he should have explored the 'dark areas' like Scientology, Berra, leaving Lakai etc., why would anyone interviewed answer those questions? If O'Dell got some answers on those topics, why would anyone agree to be interviewed for Later'd ever again? Remember, skateboarding professionals solely exist for marketing purposes, and we'll never get a Big Brother ever again. I'm bummed too, but I don't see what could be done about it.

[Lenny the Fatface]

There was plenty of interesting shit that totally got glossed over. Like mike carroll not liking koston having his own agent instead of representing himself, the whole contest era, truely tackling being sponsored by shitty mainstream companies, the space between yeah right and fully flared. This shouldve been like 10 episodes minimum. Too much is glossed over after mouse. Next to nothing about menikmati? Fucking seriously? That part basically introduced koston to the early 2000s generation of skaters. This was not a very in depth series and its not like he puts these out consistently so theres no reason to hold back. This was 6 episodes of revisionist history and advertising and that really pisses me off.

Yeah, I feel the same.  So few get access to high caliber skaters like O'dell.  He didn't use his opportunity to get a really in depth interview. I was acually less psyched on Koston after seeing it, and I really LOVE me some koston. I wonder if he's just lazy, or he caters to the sponsors and just leaves all the 'fluf' in to guarantee he gets his check.  Plus all that stuff tim was saying about being old was really bumming me out.  

I'm super psyched on a all dork trick part for the new video though.   Bring back the Chomp era Koston!

I think these are really legitimate complaints, but to those saying he should have explored the 'dark areas' like Scientology, Berra, leaving Lakai etc., why would anyone interviewed answer those questions? If O'Dell got some answers on those topics, why would anyone agree to be interviewed for Later'd ever again? Remember, skateboarding professionals solely exist for marketing purposes, and we'll never get a Big Brother ever again. I'm bummed too, but I don't see what could be done about it.

A Berra friendship, a dark area??? lol

I think if done tastefully you can get any info you want out of a skater.  O'Dell got Dylan to talk about overcoming a drug addiction that only people within the skate industry was even aware of.

Not saying that you have to talk about shitty things to make a good episode, but the original charm of the series was how candid the skaters get.

[j....soy.....]

How does he roll up his sleeves so perfectly.....totally glossed over....

[carbonite]

Henry Sanchez episode was the best.
"Everyone says 'no regrets, bro!" but yeah I regret a lot of shit." 
                                                                            -Henry Sanchez

[Useless Wooden Bench]

There was plenty of interesting shit that totally got glossed over. Like mike carroll not liking koston having his own agent instead of representing himself, the whole contest era, truely tackling being sponsored by shitty mainstream companies, the space between yeah right and fully flared. This shouldve been like 10 episodes minimum. Too much is glossed over after mouse. Next to nothing about menikmati? Fucking seriously? That part basically introduced koston to the early 2000s generation of skaters. This was not a very in depth series and its not like he puts these out consistently so theres no reason to hold back. This was 6 episodes of revisionist history and advertising and that really pisses me off.

I wouldn't dare call this, nor any media that goes on in skateboarding, "journalism."

[Fairy Boy]

There was plenty of interesting shit that totally got glossed over. Like mike carroll not liking koston having his own agent instead of representing himself, the whole contest era, truely tackling being sponsored by shitty mainstream companies, the space between yeah right and fully flared. This shouldve been like 10 episodes minimum. Too much is glossed over after mouse. Next to nothing about menikmati? Fucking seriously? That part basically introduced koston to the early 2000s generation of skaters. This was not a very in depth series and its not like he puts these out consistently so theres no reason to hold back. This was 6 episodes of revisionist history and advertising and that really pisses me off.

Yeah, I feel the same. �So few get access to high caliber skaters like O'dell. �He didn't use his opportunity to get a really in depth interview. I was acually less psyched on Koston after seeing it, and I really LOVE me some koston. I wonder if he's just lazy, or he caters to the sponsors and just leaves all the 'fluf' in to guarantee he gets his check. �Plus all that stuff tim was saying about being old was really bumming me out. �

I'm super psyched on a all dork trick part for the new video though. � Bring back the Chomp era Koston!

I think these are really legitimate complaints, but to those saying he should have explored the 'dark areas' like Scientology, Berra, leaving Lakai etc., why would anyone interviewed answer those questions? If O'Dell got some answers on those topics, why would anyone agree to be interviewed for Later'd ever again? Remember, skateboarding professionals solely exist for marketing purposes, and we'll never get a Big Brother ever again. I'm bummed too, but I don't see what could be done about it.

A Berra friendship, a dark area??? lol

I think if done tastefully you can get any info you want out of a skater. �O'Dell got Dylan to talk about overcoming a drug addiction that only people within the skate industry was even aware of.

Not saying that you have to talk about shitty things to make a good episode, but the original charm of the series was how candid the skaters get.

That's a good point...I suppose O'Dell might look up to Koston so much that he didn't want to get into anything that would make him look bad to the skate community? Especially with Scientology, its hard to imagine Koston giving responses that make people like us say 'Oh, that's why he likes Scientology? now i totally get it'. I don't think he could say anything to change peoples minds on Berra, either.

[lampshade]

There was plenty of interesting shit that totally got glossed over. Like mike carroll not liking koston having his own agent instead of representing himself, the whole contest era, truely tackling being sponsored by shitty mainstream companies, the space between yeah right and fully flared. This shouldve been like 10 episodes minimum. Too much is glossed over after mouse. Next to nothing about menikmati? Fucking seriously? That part basically introduced koston to the early 2000s generation of skaters. This was not a very in depth series and its not like he puts these out consistently so theres no reason to hold back. This was 6 episodes of revisionist history and advertising and that really pisses me off.

Yeah, I feel the same. �So few get access to high caliber skaters like O'dell. �He didn't use his opportunity to get a really in depth interview. I was acually less psyched on Koston after seeing it, and I really LOVE me some koston. I wonder if he's just lazy, or he caters to the sponsors and just leaves all the 'fluf' in to guarantee he gets his check. �Plus all that stuff tim was saying about being old was really bumming me out. �

I'm super psyched on a all dork trick part for the new video though.� �Bring back the Chomp era Koston!

I think these are really legitimate complaints, but to those saying he should have explored the 'dark areas' like Scientology, Berra, leaving Lakai etc., why would anyone interviewed answer those questions? If O'Dell got some answers on those topics, why would anyone agree to be interviewed for Later'd ever again? Remember, skateboarding professionals solely exist for marketing purposes, and we'll never get a Big Brother ever again. I'm bummed too, but I don't see what could be done about it.

Because good journalism involves providing new information.  A lot of bloggers just get lazy and regurgitate known facts.  I've never met Koston, but feel like I could have made those EL episodes just based off common knowledge.  Southern California, Amazing skater, shoes, team changes, etc....    

[Fairy Boy]

Because good journalism involves providing new information.  A lot of bloggers just get lazy and regurgitate known facts.  I've never met Koston, but feel like I could have made those EL episodes just based off common knowledge.  Southern California, Amazing skater, shoes, team changes, etc....   

like UWB pointed out, where do you get this 'journalism' idea from?

[johntsunami]

if koston wasn't willing to talk about scientology and that crap don't do the series on him.

[The Ghost of Lenny Kirk]

There was plenty of interesting shit that totally got glossed over. Like mike carroll not liking koston having his own agent instead of representing himself, the whole contest era, truely tackling being sponsored by shitty mainstream companies, the space between yeah right and fully flared. This shouldve been like 10 episodes minimum. Too much is glossed over after mouse. Next to nothing about menikmati? Fucking seriously? That part basically introduced koston to the early 2000s generation of skaters. This was not a very in depth series and its not like he puts these out consistently so theres no reason to hold back. This was 6 episodes of revisionist history and advertising and that really pisses me off.

I wouldn't dare call this, nor any media that goes on in skateboarding, "journalism."

But i think that especially over the last 2 seasons of this show theres this sort of feeling that it was getting to that place and that was kinda the appeal of the show. that it gained its cache from getting a lot closer to the truth. thats not journalism exactly but its a lot more than fluff. Otherwise i wouldnt care about this show at all. Im getting there though.

[shone237]

Was gonna hate on these even more but then realized, why bother. Everyone knows Vice is an ad agency right?

[carbonite]

if someone did a roundtable interview with Berra, Koston, and J Lee about scientology it would be pulitzer-level skournalism

[Canuck]

This just like the B.A. episodes, ended as if he just rushed through anything that was of recent memory.  Plus O'Dell kinda admitted that he wasnt a real koston fan anyways.


I usually like O'Dell's work but he really dropped the ball by not addressing:
1. His affiliation with Scientology
2. His affiliation with the No Limit Soldiers
3. Why is he even friends with Steve Berra
4. What was really the issue with the Alex Olson instabeef, was it the straw that broke the camel's back or is the berrics really that goddamn hard to run that you air a nigga out like that for talking slick.

I highly doubt Koston would willingly discuss scientology stuff. He would either just straight up refuse to talk about it or be vague as fuck when discussing it.

That ^

AND

Does anybody know what the 'sketchy shit' Eric's business manager uncovered was? Does it have something to do with Lakai leaving
Podium and becoming one with Crailtap?

[HairyCunt]

The more I think about it, the more wack it seems. He had 3 of the best pro shoes of all time and they don't even mention it, other than "my shoes were influenced by Jordans." The whole series was a big "tell us something we don't know."

[hellmanovo]

There was plenty of interesting shit that totally got glossed over. Like mike carroll not liking koston having his own agent instead of representing himself, the whole contest era, truely tackling being sponsored by shitty mainstream companies, the space between yeah right and fully flared. This shouldve been like 10 episodes minimum. Too much is glossed over after mouse. Next to nothing about menikmati? Fucking seriously? That part basically introduced koston to the early 2000s generation of skaters. This was not a very in depth series and its not like he puts these out consistently so theres no reason to hold back. This was 6 episodes of revisionist history and advertising and that really pisses me off.

Yeah, I feel the same.  So few get access to high caliber skaters like O'dell.  He didn't use his opportunity to get a really in depth interview. I was acually less psyched on Koston after seeing it, and I really LOVE me some koston. I wonder if he's just lazy, or he caters to the sponsors and just leaves all the 'fluf' in to guarantee he gets his check.  Plus all that stuff tim was saying about being old was really bumming me out.  

I'm super psyched on a all dork trick part for the new video though.   Bring back the Chomp era Koston!

I think these are really legitimate complaints, but to those saying he should have explored the 'dark areas' like Scientology, Berra, leaving Lakai etc., why would anyone interviewed answer those questions? If O'Dell got some answers on those topics, why would anyone agree to be interviewed for Later'd ever again? Remember, skateboarding professionals solely exist for marketing purposes, and we'll never get a Big Brother ever again. I'm bummed too, but I don't see what could be done about it.

A Berra friendship, a dark area??? lol

I think if done tastefully you can get any info you want out of a skater.  O'Dell got Dylan to talk about overcoming a drug addiction that only people within the skate industry was even aware of.

Not saying that you have to talk about shitty things to make a good episode, but the original charm of the series was how candid the skaters get.

Somehow or other I don't think it would've been too hard to get Dylan to talk about overcoming a drug addiction. He was probably was psyched to further reinforce his tortured artist/rockstar/ faggot thing he's got going on. Koston's epicly later'd was quite a let down.

[j....soy.....]

Funny how badly we want to hear about some religions.....and others you just can't stand to hear about....

[Lenny the Fatface]

Just throwing out an example of what O'Dell could have talked about during the post mouse episodes...no bigs.

[tiltmode43]

Funny how badly we want to hear about some religions.....and others you just can't stand to hear about....

And had he talked on and on about scientology (I did not even know he was a scientologist if I am honest) all of these comments would be about how much of a 'kook' he is and how he wouldn't shut up about his religion.  There is no winning.

[tb303]

perhaps these guys figured out they could get tax breaks by being involved in Scientology.
They give a big donation and receive it back effectively laundering a tax free income.

[Tarela]

There was plenty of interesting shit that totally got glossed over. Like mike carroll not liking koston having his own agent instead of representing himself, the whole contest era, truely tackling being sponsored by shitty mainstream companies, the space between yeah right and fully flared. This shouldve been like 10 episodes minimum. Too much is glossed over after mouse. Next to nothing about menikmati? Fucking seriously? That part basically introduced koston to the early 2000s generation of skaters. This was not a very in depth series and its not like he puts these out consistently so theres no reason to hold back. This was 6 episodes of revisionist history and advertising and that really pisses me off.

Hit the nail on the head... it was a 6 week long Oakley ad..glad to see Alphonzo Rawls talking..and its cool seeing Koston being a dad it adds a level of humility you may or may not have seen (like the Ricky O and Kalis episodes) and shit but they skipped over so much shit its insane...arguably one of the greatest dudes to ever do it and O'Dell some how felt he could cover an amazing 20+ yr career in 6 eps? I've loved watching Koston for as long as ive been skating i couldnt believe that was it when i saw the end in fact i watched it twice to see if there was a "Continued in Part 7" i might have missed..I would really have liked to know more about filming for the Lakai Video Guy and MJ had plenty to say about that video imagine anyone apart of it did...

[Participation]

mayb koston is a faget

[Canuck]

mayb koston is a faget

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