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« Reply #90 on: July 16, 2012, 04:37:40 AM »

Koston - Legend

The Boss - Legend

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« Reply #91 on: July 16, 2012, 04:51:05 AM »

Reynolds may not have innovated to the same degree as some of the others mentioned but when one looks at the last 10-15 years of skateboarding reynolds is certainly one of the most influential dudes in terms of skateboarding culture what with piss drunx and baker originally and now his involvement in shake junt and and deathwish and shit that seems to be everywhere, I'm not saying i back that  stuff but when you consider what skaters the average guy coming up in the last decade or so really looked up to or tried to emulate reynolds has to be mentioned.

I'm not saying skateboarding is about bullshit trendsetter fashion shit but reynolds has definitely earned his name on the list of "important" skaters in terms of skateboard culture as a whole and when you pair that level of cultural heft with how he has been aging like a fine fucking wine and still killing stuff he is for sure a legend...
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« Reply #92 on: July 16, 2012, 05:12:57 AM »

Koston - Legend

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exactly. Apples and oranges. Different camps, different styles of street skating.
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« Reply #93 on: July 16, 2012, 06:16:30 AM »

Reynolds may not have innovated to the same degree as some of the others mentioned but when one looks at the last 10-15 years of skateboarding reynolds is certainly one of the most influential dudes in terms of skateboarding culture what with piss drunx and baker originally and now his involvement in shake junt and and deathwish and shit that seems to be everywhere, I'm not saying i back that?  stuff but when you consider what skaters the average guy coming up in the last decade or so really looked up to or tried to emulate reynolds has to be mentioned.

I'm not saying skateboarding is about bullshit trendsetter fashion shit but reynolds has definitely earned his name on the list of "important" skaters in terms of skateboard culture as a whole and when you pair that level of cultural heft with how he has been aging like a fine fucking wine and still killing stuff he is for sure a legend...

seems to me that you could argue that reynolds contribution is doing things proper. koston and many other pros definitely do gnarly tricks with good style but reynolds to me seems to be the guy who really upped the bar on the idea of how you do the trick being as important as what you do.
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« Reply #94 on: July 16, 2012, 09:43:02 AM »

Watching Koston skate as a young kid helped me pick up on some subtleties of his style now.  Cool.
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« Reply #95 on: July 16, 2012, 10:39:05 AM »

Koston - Legend

The Boss - Legend

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exactly. Apples and oranges. Different camps, different styles of street skating.
yeah, and I skate differently than both of them, by this sort of approach, you can't really say whether they are better or worse than me. By the obvious approach, Reynolds is a titan and Koston is a god.
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« Reply #96 on: July 16, 2012, 11:01:39 AM »

Koston - Legend

The Boss - Legend

end of story.

exactly. Apples and oranges. Different camps, different styles of street skating.
yeah, and I skate differently than both of them, by this sort of approach, you can't really say whether they are better or worse than me. By the obvious approach, Reynolds is a titan and Koston is a god.

I agree. The apples and oranges argument misses the point a bit. This isn't really a matter of taste.
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« Reply #97 on: July 16, 2012, 11:40:41 AM »

The eras overlap.....but they are not the same.....compare the bodies of work in five years.....by then we won't give two shits.....

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« Reply #98 on: July 16, 2012, 12:02:08 PM »

Koston - Legend

The Boss - Legend

end of story.

exactly. Apples and oranges. Different camps, different styles of street skating.
yeah, and I skate differently than both of them, by this sort of approach, you can't really say whether they are better or worse than me. By the obvious approach, Reynolds is a titan and Koston is a god.

I agree. The apples and oranges argument misses the point a bit. This isn't really a matter of taste.

well, I started skating in the mid-90?s, so Koston specially in the late 90?s, for me was like a god...seriouslly, he really stepped skating into another degree, but right now, Reynolds is amazing, specially seeing the evolution of that guy, in the 90?s he was good, but to be honest I didnt liked his style, but right now, he skates big, and he can get tech when he wants, and just look at his age, lengend, period.
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« Reply #99 on: July 16, 2012, 12:41:53 PM »

Trying to compare/contrast/rate Koston vs. Reynolds is about as senseless as Rodney vs. Daewon.  They named their video that as a marketing gimmick, everyone knows they're both winners.

They're both timeless.  They're both legends.  They're both still killing it.  They've both succeeded far beyond any genre pigeonhole.

Give it up. 
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« Reply #100 on: July 16, 2012, 01:50:28 PM »

I think if Reynolds continues to skate the way he does as he gets older, he will become more of a legend. The thing with a lot of good skaters is they peak out and decline as they get older. You can see that with even a lot of the older pros now. Reynolds seems to be going bigger as he gets older.
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« Reply #101 on: July 16, 2012, 01:53:41 PM »

Versatility, technique, style, variety = Koston

Predictable, limited variety, stunt jumping, racism = Reynolds

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« Reply #102 on: July 16, 2012, 02:34:35 PM »

Versatility, technique, style, variety = Koston

Predictable, limited variety, stunt jumping, racism = Reynolds



Pretty lame to include Reynolds' "racism" that I fucking guarantee you've NEVER heard even fourth hand and then not include Koston's tired online "fuck your face" antics which we've all seen thanks to the internet.

How much should a pro's personality really figure in, anyway?
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« Reply #103 on: July 16, 2012, 02:40:00 PM »

Darrin lee brings up a good point, what about tag teams?koston and daewon vs mullen and reynolds. Ladders and tables match
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« Reply #104 on: July 16, 2012, 03:04:17 PM »

no he doesn't. Also, the idea that Koston's skill in skating gaps is comparable to Reynolds tech abilities is laughable. Reynolds does tech tricks other tech dudes do just to show he can do that too, Koston switch heeled the Santa Monica triple set.
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« Reply #105 on: July 16, 2012, 03:37:21 PM »

Versatility, technique, style, variety = Koston

Predictable, limited variety, stunt jumping, racism = Reynolds



Pretty lame to include Reynolds' "racism" that I fucking guarantee you've NEVER heard even fourth hand and then not include Koston's tired online "fuck your face" antics which we've all seen thanks to the internet.

How much should a pro's personality really figure in, anyway?

I highly doubt Reynolds is any more racist than the average person.  If anything, he seems like the type to not give a shit about race.

I think personality matters to a certain degree.  If you're not super nice or a giant asshole, it doesn't really matter but if your personality stands out positively/negatively more than the average skater, I guess you can factor that in? 
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« Reply #106 on: July 16, 2012, 03:53:09 PM »

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« Reply #107 on: July 16, 2012, 03:55:37 PM »

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« Reply #108 on: July 16, 2012, 04:28:58 PM »

Am I the only one who actually prefers Koston once I got to glimpse at his personality, seems like one cool, funny dude. It strikes me that reynolds might take himself a little to seriously but Koston is always down to laugh at himself.
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« Reply #109 on: July 16, 2012, 05:21:28 PM »

Both of them ride skateboards pretty damn awesomely, and have for years. and both of their names will always be around in skating. Can we please just see some fucking tits or something?
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« Reply #110 on: July 16, 2012, 06:11:37 PM »

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« Reply #111 on: July 16, 2012, 06:30:34 PM »

Am I the only one who actually prefers Koston once I got to glimpse at his personality, seems like one cool, funny dude. It strikes me that reynolds might take himself a little to seriously but Koston is always down to laugh at himself.
Yeah totally. I see Reynolds flipping out on social networks all the time. Definite sign of taking yourself too seriously.
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« Reply #112 on: July 17, 2012, 04:48:14 AM »

Versatility, technique, style, variety = Koston

Predictable, limited variety, stunt jumping, racism = Reynolds



Pretty lame to include Reynolds' "racism" that I fucking guarantee you've NEVER heard even fourth hand and then not include Koston's tired online "fuck your face" antics which we've all seen thanks to the internet.

How much should a pro's personality really figure in, anyway?

I highly doubt Reynolds is any more racist than the average person.  If anything, he seems like the type to not give a shit about race.

I think personality matters to a certain degree.  If you're not super nice or a giant asshole, it doesn't really matter but if your personality stands out positively/negatively more than the average skater, I guess you can factor that in? 

Gershon Mosley prefers Koston.
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« Reply #113 on: July 17, 2012, 04:52:30 AM »

Versatility, technique, style, variety = Koston

Predictable, limited variety, stunt jumping, racism = Reynolds



Pretty lame to include Reynolds' "racism" that I fucking guarantee you've NEVER heard even fourth hand and then not include Koston's tired online "fuck your face" antics which we've all seen thanks to the internet.

How much should a pro's personality really figure in, anyway?

*sigh of disappointment*

G-MOS Xpoz'd Reynolds true "colors" a long time ago.

Koston's attitude isn't born out of racial hatred.

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« Reply #114 on: July 17, 2012, 05:12:14 AM »

All I'm getting at is that, due to the internet, we see so much of a pro that is not related to their skating that it affects our opinion and that's sorta bullshit.  A lot of great skaters are shady/shitty dudes, or come off that way because we only see them in glimpses.  I just thought your breakdown of Reynolds and Koston was lame because apparently you factor in Reynolds alleged comments from YEARS ago that have nothing to do with his skating.  That would be like me saying Koston is shitty because he freaks out online and is friends with Berra.

EDIT- Just went and re-read the 48 Blocks interview to make sure- Gershon even says he never heard any racist comment and that he socked him over Reynolds being a drunk asshole.  Ah fuck it, I just need to pay more attention to that dead horse gif.
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« Reply #116 on: July 17, 2012, 06:24:15 AM »

hopefully odell will make some other controversial comparisons in the next episode
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« Reply #117 on: July 17, 2012, 07:10:11 AM »

Versatility, technique, style, variety = Koston

Predictable, limited variety, stunt jumping, racism = Reynolds



Pretty lame to include Reynolds' "racism" that I fucking guarantee you've NEVER heard even fourth hand and then not include Koston's tired online "fuck your face" antics which we've all seen thanks to the internet.

How much should a pro's personality really figure in, anyway?

*sigh of disappointment*

G-MOS Xpoz'd Reynolds true "colors" a long time ago.

Koston's attitude isn't born out of racial hatred.


This race card against Reynolds is complete and utter bullshit.  Gershon beat his face in because he was a drugged up, drunken pile talking shit- and Reynolds will not dispute that fact to this day.  There was no racial hatred involved, get your story straight. 

It's so strongly detrimental and degenerate bring race relations into any conflict unwarranted, and you suck at life for doing so. 
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« Reply #118 on: July 17, 2012, 07:15:42 AM »

Versatility, technique, style, variety = Koston

Predictable, limited variety, stunt jumping, racism = Reynolds



Pretty lame to include Reynolds' "racism" that I fucking guarantee you've NEVER heard even fourth hand and then not include Koston's tired online "fuck your face" antics which we've all seen thanks to the internet.

How much should a pro's personality really figure in, anyway?

*sigh of disappointment*

G-MOS Xpoz'd Reynolds true "colors" a long time ago.

Koston's attitude isn't born out of racial hatred.


This race card against Reynolds is complete and utter bullshit.  Gershon beat his face in because he was a drugged up, drunken pile talking shit- and Reynolds will not dispute that fact to this day.  There was no racial hatred involved, get your story straight. 

It's so strongly detrimental and degenerate bring race relations into any conflict unwarranted, and you suck at life for doing so. 

I have disagreed with you a lot in the past, but you are 100% correct here.  Fucking hate it when people add fuel to a completely unnecessary and INCORRECT fire.
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« Reply #119 on: July 17, 2012, 07:20:47 AM »

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