Ericly Later'd

[camel filters]

^ You've never heard that critique of Reynolds? He did end like 3 video parts in a row with basically identical tricks.

Putting a frontside flip as an ender multiple times and doing the same three tricks over and over ain't the same fucking ballpark. It ain't the same league. It ain't even the same fucking sport. Look, foot massages don't mean shit.

[360 frip]

Just to loop it back around to what we were talking about earlier before that I think makes things clear- every NBD Koston does becomes the new hot trick, has Andrew Reynolds ever even done a trick that hasn't been done yet? That on its own puts Koston in his own league

wouldnt you say that reynolds taking tricks down bigger and longer things than anyone else keeps him in his own league? Comparing koston v Reynolds based on trick nbds is as fair/stupid as koston v reynolds on skating big stairs/gaps etc?

No, that's not a valid comparison. The question is, what has Reynolds brought into skating? his "progression" is purely mathematical. Its particularly bad because Koston has done some gnarly shit down some big gaps.

this.

as already pointed out, koston shows people what's possible and there's people like reynolds who take it further. i think the former way of progress is a lot more impressive

Flip trick progression is mathmatical too. Adding flips is the same thing. Fakie crook fakie varial flip out. Fakie crook fakie tre out. Fakie crook fakie 720 flip out. Its the same shit. Its not any more creative than jumping down more stairs. If someone goes for a fakie 3 flip fakie 5050 on a rail its just the next logical trick after a switch flip switch 5050 or fakie flip fakie 5050. I dont think im really all that creative and i thought of that. Its insane to do those tricks but its hardly creative to think of them. It just comes down to personal tastes. People like different things. Its not a big deal.

How can it not be more creative than "I'll frontside flip 15 stairs. Hold on. I've had a really ground breaking idea. I'll frontside flip a sixteen set (in tighter trousers)."? It's not a matter of liking different things. There is a correct answer, which is Koston.

[Cadillac Ranch Dressing]

Skateboarding is math.
Math is power.
Power is money.
Money is the root of all evil.

[Ronald Wilson Reagan]

It's funny how people say videos came out so slow back in the day, because even though there were less of them, individual companies pumped them out constantly. If '93 is true, than think about this- '92-Questionable, '93- Virtual Reality, '93/'94 goldfish, and dudes like Mike Carroll had fucking amazing parts in every single one. The rest of the industry worked that way too, videos were basically annual events. Now we gotta wait 5 years for every fucking production.

Yeah i'm pretty sure the model back in the day was a video a year, it was the mid to late 90s when that started to change. You wouldnt believe
how many horrible tracker videos there are.
I would say videos like Birdhouse's The End and Osirus the Storm were the videos that changed those trends.

Misled Youth (coming soon!)

[asakusa75]

Koston is the Master, Mariano was a sort of master "YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN"

"Sort of" master....? Are you on crack?

[Killyourdreams]

Actually he was

[asakusa75]

Yes, yes he was.

[j....soy.....]

I heard a story of Rodney being left in tears at the world park, after Eric did every Casper dark slide combo possible....

[Ronald Wilson Reagan]

I heard a story of Rodney being left in tears at the world park, after Eric did every Casper dark slide combo possible....

I'm skeptical, but it almost sounds believable. I was a counselor at woodward years ago, and Koston came. This one kid hounded him about doing a darkslide. He refused and the kid said he bet he couldn't do it. His response was "I just don't want to ruin my grip, let me use your board." In like 5 tries he did a nollie heel darkslide on a flatbar, then autographed the kid's board in the parts where the grip got scraped off.  It was pretty rad.


And Guy is the master for sure, from Child prodigy status to his Lakai comeback, everything he has done has been legendary. I always put them on the same level, but felt like Guy had more of an underground appeal to him, and Koston was the celebrity. What he said about Koston kind of surprised me.

[corto]

but felt like Guy had more of an underground appeal to him, and Koston was the celebrity. What he said about Koston kind of surprised me.

Yeah that's the way I saw it too. Also, around the mouse era Koston was so smooth were as Mariano had this more edgy thing to his skating. Mariano felt like someone who's skating had this raw personality, were as Koston was more just perfected slickness. That was then though.

[AfterEight]

Man.. this koston series is BORRRINNGGGG

I want to hear about the wallet/car/'I had a fuckin hundred bucks in there' situation.

[Zurg]

Just to loop it back around to what we were talking about earlier before that I think makes things clear- every NBD Koston does becomes the new hot trick, has Andrew Reynolds ever even done a trick that hasn't been done yet? That on its own puts Koston in his own league

wouldnt you say that reynolds taking tricks down bigger and longer things than anyone else keeps him in his own league? Comparing koston v Reynolds based on trick nbds is as fair/stupid as koston v reynolds on skating big stairs/gaps etc?

No, that's not a valid comparison. The question is, what has Reynolds brought into skating? his "progression" is purely mathematical. Its particularly bad because Koston has done some gnarly shit down some big gaps.

this.

as already pointed out, koston shows people what's possible and there's people like reynolds who take it further. i think the former way of progress is a lot more impressive

Flip trick progression is mathmatical too. Adding flips is the same thing. Fakie crook fakie varial flip out. Fakie crook fakie tre out. Fakie crook fakie 720 flip out. Its the same shit. Its not any more creative than jumping down more stairs. If someone goes for a fakie 3 flip fakie 5050 on a rail its just the next logical trick after a switch flip switch 5050 or fakie flip fakie 5050. I dont think im really all that creative and i thought of that. Its insane to do those tricks but its hardly creative to think of them. It just comes down to personal tastes. People like different things. Its not a big deal.

How can it not be more creative than "I'll frontside flip 15 stairs. Hold on. I've had a really ground breaking idea. I'll frontside flip a sixteen set (in tighter trousers)."? It's not a matter of liking different things. There is a correct answer, which is Koston.

eh, i dont know. koston's progression wasnt exactly as simple as that i dont think. even if it was, i think when a trick hasnt been done it has a degree of unattainability, you cant picture someone else doing it and work from that, you have to figure it out on your own.

sorry to keep this up, but i iz bored

[jums]

Does O'Dell really think Goldfish came out in 93?

wasn't it like 93 or 94 when it came out?

Pretty sure it's 94 when it came out. Also pretty sure most, if not all of it was filmed in 94 as well...

On the back of my VHS cover it says 1993...

[Ronald Wilson Reagan]

sorry to keep this up, but i iz bored

That's the entire point to that argument. In the end, both of those dudes rip, even if one is better than the other. Its a fun little nerd-out debate.

[Cadillac Ranch Dressing]

Man.. this koston series is BORRRINNGGGG

I want to hear about the wallet/car/'I had a fuckin hundred bucks in there' situation.

Dude got robbed. Nothing more. Nothing less.

[ramplocal]

Skateboarding is math.
Math is power.
Power is money.
Money is the root of all evil.

LOL fucking awesome,i wld like to add w koston's newest epicly part it is sick that people like guy kind of fan out on him, guy is a legend and to say he is not on koston's level is beyond a compliment

[ramplocal]

I heard a story of Rodney being left in tears at the world park, after Eric did every Casper dark slide combo possible....

I'm skeptical, but it almost sounds believable. I was a counselor at woodward years ago, and Koston came. This one kid hounded him about doing a darkslide. He refused and the kid said he bet he couldn't do it. His response was "I just don't want to ruin my grip, let me use your board." In like 5 tries he did a nollie heel darkslide on a flatbar, then autographed the kid's board in the parts where the grip got scraped off.?  It was pretty rad.


And Guy is the master for sure, from Child prodigy status to his Lakai comeback, everything he has done has been legendary. I always put them on the same level, but felt like Guy had more of an underground appeal to him, and Koston was the celebrity. What he said about Koston kind of surprised me.

rad story and i 100% agree abt the guy thing

[j....soy.....]

No 'cock' talk?

[UserFame]

why Koston is da MVP?

just look at that nollie noseblunt....

[Fongstarr.]

Epicly later'd is really better with skaters that we don't know much about or aren't in the public eye as much as Koston. I feel like we all know his story, so I also agree that this series seems a bit boring.

[LOU.502]

12 pages in and people are still arguing about Reynolds? God damn...

[john smith]

I heard a story of Rodney being left in tears at the world park, after Eric did every Casper dark slide combo possible....

went to an a-team demo back in the day.  my little brother told rodney that he nearly had darkslides.  rodney was very encouraging and gave him pointers.  he nearly pulled it in front of him.  rodney was stoked.  the dude was classy and kind. 

the same day, i rode in rocco's jeephummerthing and bought beef jerky with him.  #90s

[cornholio]

12 pages in and people are still arguing about Reynolds? God damn...

[carbonite]

totally skipped over the whole Bitch Skateboards thing

[Ronald Wilson Reagan]

Anybody watching coastal carnage right now? Jeff Pang and Paul Zitzer just chimed in their opinion: They think Koston is"The greatest street skater of all time"

[Fenzadill]

totally skipped over the whole Bitch Skateboards thing

yeah what the fuck

[1978]

Is it me or has the years guy was on drugs finally caught up to his face?  His forehead is mad scary!

[DayMan]

Is it me or has the years guy was on drugs finally caught up to his face?  His forehead is mad scary!

its not just you, his eyes look sunken in as well. hopefully not a relapse.

[Jackie Joyner Kersee]

guy isnt even kewt, gosh

[dankradschwag]

Epicly later'd is really better with skaters that we don't know much about or aren't in the public eye as much as Koston. I feel like we all know his story, so I also agree that this series seems a bit boring.

Agreed, I'd love a Ryan Nix series. Did anyone see his Slap Pals Questions? Dude's a drunk, and drunk's have the best stories.