Dark Knight rises shooting in Denver screening

[Ronald Wilson Reagan]

the government is totally behind this

http://patriotupdate.com/26189/troops-ordered-to-kill-all-americans-who-do-not-turn-in-guns#.UAcNxHBl_ss.facebook

http://www.infowars.com/colorado-batman-shooting-shows-obvious-signs-of-being-staged/

God, what trash. Its amazing how many people take this insane bullshit seriously.

[Dontfearthereefer]

Colorado=colored red(like the theater was after the shooting)
Aurora= Red Sky,(Red) Dawn,Sunrise(sun cult blood sacrifice)
Film Name=The Dark Knight(=antichrist) rises

Not far away:Denver 100% Illuminati Symbol Airport

smells like a ritual

[Sleazy]

real talk...the president....this shit's way sad...people gotta learn to converse through the written word...real talk.

also any thoughts on this?

That's pretty much how it works. If he was black, they also would have minimized it and added "police are looking into whether or not this was gang-related."

Oh come on, if all things were equal except race that's not at all what would be happening because it would be some nerdy black phd candidate kid with ornge hair who wouldn't last 2 mins in a ghetto. If middle eastern, then yeah, but not for any other race you know that.

[Beer Keg Peg Leg]

you don't think there's nerdy black kids in the ghetto?

[Perro Mojado]

Colorado=colored red(like the theater was after the shooting)
Aurora= Red Sky,(Red) Dawn,Sunrise(sun cult blood sacrifice)
Film Name=The Dark Knight(=antichrist) rises

Not far away:Denver 100% Illuminati Symbol Airport

smells like a ritual

oops someone forgot to take their valium

[HoneNone]

Whole thing sucks

[apad88]

Colorado=colored red(like the theater was after the shooting)
Aurora= Red Sky,(Red) Dawn,Sunrise(sun cult blood sacrifice)
Film Name=The Dark Knight(=antichrist) rises

Not far away:Denver 100% Illuminati Symbol Airport

smells like a ritual

No offense, but you're a fucking idiot.

[TheRealDeal]

Question: How does an unemployed medical student afford $20,000 in weapons gear?

If you start to look at the really big picture here, the obvious question arises: How does an unemployed medical student afford all the complex weapons gear, bomb-making gear, "flammable" booby trap devices, ammunition, multiple magazines, bullet-proof vest, groin protection, ballistic helmet, SWAT uniform and all the rest of it?

Question: Where does an unemployed, introverted medical school student get the training to deploy sophisticated booby traps, tactical body armor, weapons systems and more? Certainly not in graduate school!

All this leads to an obvious third party influence over all this. Someone else taught this guy these skills and funded the acquisition of the equipment.

A decent AR-15 rifle costs $1,000 or more all by itself. The shotgun and handgun might run another $800 total. Spare mags, sights, slings, and so on will run you at least another $1,000 across three firearms. The bullet-proof vest is easily another $800, and the cost of the bomb-making gear is anybody's guess. With all the specialty body gear, ammunition, booby-trap devices and more, I'm guessing this is at least $20,000 in weapons and tactical gear, much of which is very difficult for civilians to get in the first place.

There is already conjecture that James Holmes may have been involved in mind-altering neuroscience research and ended up becoming involved at a depth he never anticipated. His actions clearly show a strange detachment from reality, indicating he was not in his right mind. That can only typically be accomplished through drugs, hypnosis or trauma (and sometimes all three).

Question: Staged just in time for a vote on the UN small arms treaty?

More and more, this shooting is looking like a deliberate plot staged by the government itself much like Operation Fast and Furious pulled off by the ATF  which helped smuggle tens of thousands of guns into Mexico for the purpose of causing "gun violence" in the USA, then blaming the Second Amendment for it.

All this looks like James Holmes completed a "mission" and then calmly ended that mission by surrendering to police and admitting everything. The mission, as we are now learning, was to cause as much terror and mayhem as possible, then to have that multiplied by the national media at exactly the right time leading up the UN vote next week on a global small arms treaty that could result in gun confiscation across America. (http://lewrockwell.com/eddlem/eddlem61.1.html)

Even Forbes.com wrote about this quite extensively, warning readers about the coming gun confiscation effort related to the UN treaty. The story was authored by Larry Bell (http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2011/06/07/u-n-agreement-should...) and says the UN treaty could "override our national sovereignty, and in the process, provide license for the federal government to assert preemptive powers over state regulatory powers guaranteed by the Tenth Amendment in addition to our Second Amendment rights."

This has all the signs of Fast & Furious, Episode II. There's no quicker way to disarm a nation and take total control over the population than to stage violence, blame it on firearms, then call for leaders to "do something!" Such calls inevitably end up resulting in gun confiscation, and it's never too long after that before government genocide really kicks in like we saw with Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao and other tyrants.


Governments routinely murder millions

Here's a short list of government mass murder carried out throughout history, almost always immediately following the disarmament of the public (and usually involving staged false flag events to justify the disarmament):

50+ million dead: Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50)
12+ million dead: Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) - concentration camps, civilian deaths and dead Russian POWs
8+ million dead: Leopold II of Belgium (Congo, 1886-1908)
6+ million dead: Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39)
5+ million dead: Hideki Tojo (Japan, 1941-44)
2+ million dead: Ismail Enver (Turkey, 1915-22)
1.7 million dead: Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79)
1.6 million dead: Kim Il Sung (North Korea, 1948-94)
1.5 million dead: Menghistu (Ethiopia, 1975-78)
1 million dead: Yakubu Gowon (Biafra, 1967-1970)
900,000 dead: Leonid Brezhnev (Afghanistan, 1979-1982)
800,000 dead: Jean Kambanda (Rwanda, 1994)

So yes, James Holmes and other crazed shooters kill a number of people each year in random acts of violence. It's horrifying and wrong, but it's nothing compared to the millions of lives that governments tend to destroy when they gain total power over the populace.

The most dangerous thing in the world, it turns out, is not a crazy person with a rifle; it's a government with a "monopoly of force" over the entire population. And that's exactly what the UN spells out as its goal for the world: Stripping all power from individual citizens and handing "monopolies of force" to the governments of the world, shoring up their positions as the only "legitimate" power on the planet.

See this document entitled, "Geneva Centre for the Democratic Control of Armed Forces (DCAF)" policy paper No. 24:
http://www.naturalnews.com/files/Revisiting-the-State-Monopoly-on-the...

As this document reveals, a table entitled "Governance solutions for reasserting the state monopoly on the use of force" lists the options available to governments to re-establish "monopolies of force" against their own people:

? (Re-)establish state monopoly
- Ownership of WMDs
- Safety Inspectorates

? Prohibit business activity
- Justice and Execution
- Deadly Force?

? Regulate/limit activities
- Private defense/security services
- Control of financial transfers
- Export controls
- Transport and infrastructure safety
- Environmental impact

Interestingly, that document also describes "terrorism" in a way that perfectly matches the Aurora, Colorado "Batman" movie theater shooter:

Terrorists aim to spread panic and fear in societies in order to achieve political goals, be they based on left- or right-wing, social-revolutionary, nationalistic or religious ideologies. They are organized in a clandestine way, most often in small groups and cells... Typical tactical means include kidnapping, hostage-taking, sabotage, murder, suicide attacks, vehicle bombs and improvised explosive devices.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.html#ixzz21JYlXdPU

[dask8d00d]

I wouldn't say that I'm 100% convinced that it was part of an inside conspiracy, but I definitely wouldn't be surprised if it was.

[Ronald Wilson Reagan]

FUCK THAT RIGHTWING CONSPIRACY THEORY  BULLSHIT.
Every time there is a shooting tragedy the right wing insists that it is a conspiracy by the government to create gun control, and then it also adds some retarded reductio ad absurdium/hitlerium to claim that any nation with gun control is a totalitarian state. This conspiracy can be taken apart easily:

Simple fact one: gun control does NOT always lead to a government becoming totalitarian. examples:Germany, Japan, England, Ireland. The idea that gun control always leads to a totalitarian state is completely false, and the comparisons are intentionally misleading.

Simple fact two: these conspiracy theories are always linked back to being started by the NRA or similar groups as a dishonest way to stifle the debate about gun control.

Simple fact three: If Obama really wanted to find an excuse to use a tragedy to pass gun control laws, he could have done so after Gabriela Giffords got shot, but he didn't do anything. It would be ridiculous if he really wanted this to not exploit a tragedy that already occurred. Of course, that time they claimed the same thing- they said the Gabby Giffords shooting was an excuse to bring back the assault weapons ban, and guess what? Nothing happened.

Sorry, you can't claim every psycho on a shooting spree is a government plant put there to create a false panic for gun control.  The entire absolutist gun control debate is a republican bullshit wedge issue. They know that this is one of those issues that hits hard in the red states, so they create panics every fucking chance they get about a democrat getting ready to "take your guns away!"

Stop being such a fucking sucker.

[victor333]

Hey, Realdeal

Thanks to Gips, your theory...well:

Its just been revoked!	Small | Large

[Pike St]

First of all I am not claiming conspiracy theory for the record...the dude in Seattle who went into a coffee shop and shot a bunch of cops..is way different then this phd dude killing/injuring so many people...so don't act like there could be a slight indication of third party involvement..maybe not and I agree with you...I really do think he acted alone...however

This is such fucking bullshit: http://www.ebay.com/sch/Personal-Security-/102535/i.html?_nkw=bulletproof+vest

Look at this shit, outrageous:

Police said the suspect had acted with "calculation and deliberation", taking ammunition deliveries for months.

James Holmes was said to be armed with a rifle, a shotgun and two pistols when he launched his assault on the midnight screening of the new Batman movie The Dark Knight Rises.

He also bought 6,000 rounds of ammunition over the internet, Mr Oates said.

The police chief said that all weapons and ammunition were purchased legally within the past few months, and that the suspect had received a high volume of packages to his home and work place.

Where in the flying fuck is this shipped from?? The fact there is no qualifications on the end user is insane...You assholes can have your fucking gun rights because we all need bullet proof vest in our daily lives...

In other industries...other than the firearm industry...there are usually qualifying questions on the use of the product...Let's take the skate industry for example..you cannot get the accounts for your shops with the snap of a finger...you have to build relationships...you cannot get the lowest prices on t shirts and apparel when you first open an account with a supplier...So this firearm industry is complete bullshit...

"The suspect receive a HIGH VOLUME of of packages to his home and workplace" So don't act like his could be misinterpreted as a regular firearms customer to the supplier. Unless he got away with buying from multiple suppliers and scammed the online firearm industry...it's such bullshit...and so sad to the victims and victims families RIP


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18937726

I cannot find a source..but didn't the first reports claimed he dropped out of his college program? I guess he used his tuition money to pay for all the weapons and ammunition? Is there a reason stated why he dropped out? Where did he work? I don't understand how he can afford rent and all his bills, while buying loads of weapons and ammunition...

And seriously fuck the academy awards..wait til that shit happens...

[Pike St]

And who the fuck was shipping this shit? UPS or FedEx? Or the United States Post Office? Fuck them too.

[Liam Baker]

Being a current resident of colorado, I've been hearing all about people close to some of my friends getting hurt in this. So much shit's been going on in my state lately, with all the damn fires (one of which took my grandmother's home of 43 years) and now this psychotic fuck shooting up the theatre. RIP to those killed and best wishes to those still in the hospital.

[GarglesCmen]

I am extremely curious about this whole ordeal. Everything is estimated at 15,000$ in the least for everything he acquired. He acquired everything within a limited time span as well. He was apparently on unemployment and before he was unemployed, he worked for fast food chains for a small amount of time. I am curious as to if he got aided with purchasing these weapons and developing this whole scheme. It is fishy for sure, at least for me. I don't believe in the slightest this was staged or  whatever, but I just want to know if he was the only one who had predetermined what he would do.

[augustmoon]

he was a medical student.  he probably had student loans and credit cards.  if he knows he's going to murder a bunch of people and go to jail forever, i don't think he's worried about racking up a bunch of debt.  its not some conspiracy.  i don't even think this dude was really crazy.  just a complete self-absorbed narcissistic idiot.

[Mouth]

Exactly. 'Credit cards' seems more probable than 'part of a widespread conspiracy involving mind control to disarm Americans, so they can be murdered in their millions'.

[weedpop]

God, I can't believe right wing theorists are still scared about the U.N. You'd think that 60+ years of it doing jack shit to curtail U.S. sovereignty would probably have eased their heeby-jeebies a bit.

[MFLUDER]

He had a job at the big m for a while probs just saved up or racked up debts.

I cant believe dudes on this forum are actually entertaining the idea it was a conspiracy.

Also I hate the whole mental illness thing.
He was rotten, some people are just rotten.

[Pike St]

I've never applied for a loan but this came up on a goggle search for a $15,000 loan. What a fucking piece of shit

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9284044.htm

Bad Credit Loans Up To $15,000 For Qualified Borrowers Debuts
In an effort to provide more effective options for financial relief to struggling families, BadCreditx.com debuts new bad credit loans to visitors of the popular financial site. The family rescue loan offers allow for easy qualification to employed people who are over 18 years old and need to borrow money for immediate needs.

?Anyone can run into hard times and sometimes a helping hand is all that is needed.?
The new payday loans being debuted at BadCreditx.com require only basic information for funding and borrowers can get approved within minutes if they meet the following requirements:

    * Borrower must be 18 years of age
    * Have a valid checking account for funding
    * Be employed or capable of showing consistent income of $1,000/mo.
    * Be a U.S. citizen or permanent resident

Once the application is approved the money, up to $15,000 bad credit loans for qualified borrowers, can have the money deposited directly into the valid checking account provided while applying.

[Sleazy]

watched this report last night that was really good: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7415748n

they focus a lot on the victims. the first guys story is pretty moving. all around just good coverage.

[victor333]

He had a job at the big m for a while probs just saved up or racked up debts.

I cant believe dudes on this forum are actually entertaining the idea it was a conspiracy.

Also I hate the whole mental illness thing.
He was rotten, some people are just rotten.

His murders were not for religious reasons, nor were they self-defense. The killings were done on a group of people he had no connection to in any way.

You could just say, "yea, he's a bad guy," but that level of detachment and severe lack of any regard for the well-being of another human being is not normal.

People are the way they are for an innumerable number of reasons. Writing this guy off as just a bad guy doesn't do anything to curb the frequency of these mass shootings, and murders in general. I think it's important to understand the motives of the killer and the underlying causes of their misanthropic behavior.


Also, from a logistical standpoint, carrying out these shootings is not hard at all. You can buy bullets at Wal-mart if you so please. Most public places don't have metal detectors and security personnel at the door. It's just kind of eerie to think that anybody could barricade the doors at a school, movie theater, restaurant, whatever and kill dozens of people.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1345&dat=19840719&id=xP1LAAAAIBAJ&sjid=lvkDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5440,712216
http://suite101.com/article/theoretical-explanations-of-mass-murder-a216755

[Perro Mojado]

i am not saying its conspiracy theory but conspiracy thoery

[TheRealDeal]

Victor, you're a stooge. Gipper, stop being a sucker to the blatantly false Left/Right Paradigm.  Give up that tired, ad hominem "Right Wing" shit already.  Get past the conditioning and propaganda you've been inundated with since birth.  What do you know about CIA (Ford and Rockefeller funded)  black-ops and mind control operations like MK ULTRA and numerous others? Are you going to deny they ever existed?  They're on public record.  And even upon cursory examination, you can see that there is something far more egregious and sinister going on behind the curtain of the partisan politics game show distraction.

Holmes, a doctoral student at the University of Colorado at Denver, had won a neuroscience training grant from the National Institutes of Health, a university spokeswoman said early Sunday.  The grant was awarded to just six students at the school.
"The focus on the program is training outstanding neuroscientists who will make significant contributions to neurobiology," the school said.

Theodore Kaczynski was recruited into MK ULTRA and was in a similar Phd program at Berkley. 

With drugs like scopolamine, you could get anybody to willing stick their hand in a blender...or to play a part in committing a larger atrocity.

The UN arms treaty is on the razors edge.  It needs two votes in the Senate to pass. Boom, magically this unfolds. This time there are extra creepy points with the mixture of reality and fantasy with the use of this movie and archetypal characters,  which aides in further fucking with the subconscious of the masses.

?The ultimate aim of the CFR is to create a one-world socialist system, and to make the U.S. an official part of it,? Dan Smoot, a former member of the FBI, explained shortly after the globalist organization was created in 1921. In order to do this and eliminate opposition, the CFR and the United Nations are working in tandem to establish a gun grabbing regime under the guise of stopping violence by terrorists and organized crime. 

I could go on and on about the real history, actors and funding of the UN, but instead I'll urge people to research it on their own.

Synthetic Terror through the use of the Hegelian Dialectic:  Stage crisis, frame Reaction, give solution. Control mechanism to systematically take away rights.  It's been employed countless times through out history and continues to be carried out today to further and agenda to consolidate power...incrementally at first, and then at lightning speed.

Even it was a lone-gunman nut on prozac or whatever (I'd say there's a 5% chance)...it would still be mind control...because that is this culture that has been created through hypnosis.  The culture of death that the elites love so much.

[ttching!]

The only way Americans are giving up their guns is when you pry them from their dead hands. Another tragedy caused by some asshole isn't going to change that, and if you believe our population would honor a UN treaty altering their right to bear arms you either do not know any gun enthusiasts or are huffing spray-paint.

[ChronicBluntSlider]

The only way Americans are giving up their guns is when you pry them from their dead hands. Another tragedy caused by some asshole isn't going to change that, and if you believe our population would honor a UN treaty altering their right to bear arms you either do not know any gun enthusiasts or are huffing spray-paint.

Who are you responding to, and why are you so stupid?

[ChildoftheGhetto]

real talk...the president....this shit's way sad...people gotta learn to converse through the written word...real talk.

also any thoughts on this?

That's pretty much how it works. If he was black, they also would have minimized it and added "police are looking into whether or not this was gang-related."

if he was black, or Latino or Arab, dude would be dead. Only a white dude could go kill a ton of people and be taken into custody. Then be labeled an alleged suspect after being caught. They aren't even showing this clowns mugshot on TV. Got the nerve to show a picture of this motherfucker smiling. Come the fuck on this clown just walked into a movie theatre and unloaded indiscriminately on random people and they're showing a picture of him smiling.  Give me a fucking break.I mean come on .....smiling.

If  my black ass robbed that same theater the cops would've unloaded on my ass, but lets act like they wouldn't have and they took me into custody. The TV would be plastered with my mugshot and thyley wouldn't be looking for any type of explanations and they damn sure wouldn't be trying to point out good shit in my background. It wouldn't be any type "he was trying to feed his kids" "he needed the money to payoff loans" or any type of excuses white people get when they commit crimes

I say all that to say this. Story trying to save him with all these explanations, because if he was black dude you would just chalk it up to him being a scumbag
 

[ttching!]

The only way Americans are giving up their guns is when you pry them from their dead hands. Another tragedy caused by some asshole isn't going to change that, and if you believe our population would honor a UN treaty altering their right to bear arms you either do not know any gun enthusiasts or are huffing spray-paint.

Who are you responding to, and why are you so stupid?

TheRealDeal. I'm not making any hypothesis on the various theories being discussed, but am stating the facts about the beliefs of the gun nuts I've known over the years. Right, wrong, smart, or dumb, they would happily take a bullet and try to put one in you before you take their guns away.

[Donkey Lips]

real talk...the president....this shit's way sad...people gotta learn to converse through the written word...real talk.

also any thoughts on this?

That's pretty much how it works. If he was black, they also would have minimized it and added "police are looking into whether or not this was gang-related."

if he was black, or Latino or Arab, dude would be dead. Only a white dude could go kill a ton of people and be taken into custody. Then be labeled an alleged suspect after being caught. They aren't even showing this clowns mugshot on TV. Got the nerve to show a picture of this motherfucker smiling. Come the fuck on this clown just walked into a movie theatre and unloaded indiscriminately on random people and they're showing a picture of him smiling.  Give me a fucking break.I mean come on .....smiling.

If  my black ass robbed that same theater the cops would've unloaded on my ass, but lets act like they wouldn't have and they took me into custody. The TV would be plastered with my mugshot and thyley wouldn't be looking for any type of explanations and they damn sure wouldn't be trying to point out good shit in my background. It wouldn't be any type "he was trying to feed his kids" "he needed the money to payoff loans" or any type of excuses white people get when they commit crimes

I say all that to say this. Story trying to save him with all these explanations, because if he was black dude you would just chalk it up to him being a scumbag

There isn't a mugshot to broadcast yet. The police chief refuses to release it due to the fact that he won't even be charged until Monday. I completely agree though, the only reason they took him alive is because he was white. Had he been black or latino, he would've been shot to pieces as soon as he lifted his gas mask.

[via]

real talk...the president....this shit's way sad...people gotta learn to converse through the written word...real talk.

also any thoughts on this?

That's pretty much how it works. If he was black, they also would have minimized it and added "police are looking into whether or not this was gang-related."

if he was black, or Latino or Arab, dude would be dead. Only a white dude could go kill a ton of people and be taken into custody. Then be labeled an alleged suspect after being caught. They aren't even showing this clowns mugshot on TV. Got the nerve to show a picture of this motherfucker smiling. Come the fuck on this clown just walked into a movie theatre and unloaded indiscriminately on random people and they're showing a picture of him smiling.  Give me a fucking break.I mean come on .....smiling.

If  my black ass robbed that same theater the cops would've unloaded on my ass, but lets act like they wouldn't have and they took me into custody. The TV would be plastered with my mugshot and thyley wouldn't be looking for any type of explanations and they damn sure wouldn't be trying to point out good shit in my background. It wouldn't be any type "he was trying to feed his kids" "he needed the money to payoff loans" or any type of excuses white people get when they commit crimes

I say all that to say this. Story trying to save him with all these explanations, because if he was black dude you would just chalk it up to him being a scumbag
 

Fucked, but true.