Skaters turn authoritarian with their "Gestapo" tactics to ban scooters

[iwshilvdnfinland]

meanwhile right now woodward is having an all scooter week.

[foureyedjim]

Must be some really tough tape

[Dwyck]

I don't mind scooters... I hate little kids.

In NY, there's less scooter kids and more dumbass kids running on the ramps

[BraveUlysses]

Must be some really tough tape

The fact that the dude says "paytime" instead of "payback time" caught my attention more than the scooter kid being hung.

[HeavyweightLurker]

i dont care about inline skates, bmx, snakeboards and scooters... trends come and go...
Skateboarding survive.

but fighting and working hard 10 or more years for an good skatepark and suddenly you cant skate it anymore
because of a new trendsport and get crowedet over and over with kids that cant use your skatepark sucks big time.

calling the police for illigal scootering/bike riding in a "Skate"park sucks - but calling them for unsupervised little Kids
in an danger area (Skatepark) makes sens.
A 9 Years old Kid have not the orientation and cant rate speed and time to skate save an crowded flowbowl - it just inpossible.
You dont let your Kid ride an bike on the streets, an skatesession in an crowded park is much more complex. And if a grown skater hit an kid with his hip at highspeed against is head - shit can happen.

Parents cant drop little kids in an Skatepark like in a kindergarden/daycare, and if you call the police and say here is an
spacy kid without parents, didnt know name and homeaddress - and child protective service/ youth welfare bring them back home...
they will never come back to your skatepark.

if they are older than 12 - u can handle them with bad vibration.

[foureyedjim]

The fact that the dude says "paytime" instead of "payback time" caught my attention more than the scooter kid being hung.

probably a Swedish artist, so I expected the weird English.

[grimcity]

[Sleazy]

that shit is switch too

[chockfullofthat]

Pussies.  If you can't keep the little brats in line, you're doing it wrong.

I like that one scooter trick where they whip the thing near their heads.  If it goes wrong, they won't be scooting ever again.

[Jejenhausen]

Feel like I broke a rib today, first thing just skating into the local,

fell off the top of a quarter trying to avoid taking a very young kid with me.

this 'daycare skatepark' shit has to stop.

[dirtyweemidden]

I lost faith in my local when they started selling scooters, fucking hell.

Oh shit, even zumiez doesn't sell scooters.

imagine my distress when i went into my local to pick up a new board and saw an allmighty scooter display twice the size of all the skate supplies, im all for supporting small shops over big mailorder companies but when the owners jump on every passing fad and shun skateboarding tto the back corner whenevers theres a dip in popularity, it makes it hard to keep going back and not just get everything online for better prices...

[sfa]

you should tell your shop just that.

and yeah, as far as these little fuckers go, I say you need to give the parents shit.

or if that's not your thing

Just straight up tell them that you are concerned for the safety of the kid and that they should better instruct their child on how things work at a skate park. Tell them how badly their child is going to get hurt if you or another guy that cares less than you were to run full speed into them.

[Schismatic]

Feel like I broke a rib today, first thing just skating into the local,

fell off the top of a quarter trying to avoid taking a very young kid with me.

this 'daycare skatepark' shit has to stop.

This is the bigger picture problem. A park is not a good place to learn how to skate! That's what driveways and empty parking lots are for. I've tried explaining to numerous parents that if their kid can't comfortably ride their board then they shouldn't be near tranny and it's dangerous to take them to a park. Deaf ears of course.

Yesterday I went to a nearby indoor park, Capital, and there were 3 scooter kids. Aside from constantly getting the way, snaking, and scooting into wherever I had a run going, they did shit like stood on top of ramps with their scooters resting on the coping. After I politely asked they would try to move when they see someone coming, they seemed to do it more. Fuckers saw me coming, made eye contact on approach, and then somehow I'm an asshole when I tailslide into them because they couldn't pull their shit back 6 inches from the lip.

Regardless of my personal opinion about anyone over age 9 riding a scooter, I agree that it's only really a problem when it makes it tough to skate, which goes for inexperienced skaters too. Crowded with guys who know what they're doing and know etiquette, a park is still skatable. Trade a third of those guys for scooterers and little kids who can barely stand on their board and the same number of people makes it impossible to flow through a park or even hit certain parts of it at all. 

To admit my own hypocrisy, when I have to bring my kid to the park I prefer that he rides his scooter and not his skateboard so the simple fact that it's safer for everyone and he can steer out of people's way much more easily. However, I also watch him closely and am continuously teaching him park safety and etiquette. He doesn't ride in crowded areas and if he starts getting in people's way I send him to the neighboring basketball courts if they're empty, or have him sit out for a bit.

Back to the point, the main issue is that parents don't have any fucking common sense most of the time. Why take your 6 y/o daughter to a skatepark to learn how to ride her cheap Barbie rollerblades? There's 160+ pound men rushing around the place at high speeds. Same with scooters, bikes, and kids who can barely skate. It's fucking irresponsible and borderline reckless endangerment.

[rlang]

It's just a problem with little spoiled kids today in general (they all happen to ride scooters now because it's so easy).  They're in another fucking world, they pay no attention, and they haven't the slightest knowledge or care about skate etiquette.  Honestly, the under 12 skaterboarders aren't much better, I'm not embarrassed for them, but they're just as oblivious.  When I was a grom I was always overly cautious that I wasn't getting in the better kids way.  Today it's more of the opposite.   

[InternetDaddy]

I don't mind scooters... I hate little kids.

In NY, there's less scooter kids and more dumbass kids running on the ramps

extreme walking is the future bro

[Extremely Sorry]

If the scooter kids actually follow park etiquette and shit, I don't mind them. Especially when they can actually scooter well. I've met a couple kids who were actually 'pro' scooter-ers and the shit they were doing was actually fairly impressive..  
The only problem I have is when kids under 10 show up at the park and act like they run it. Recently, an 8 year old kid took a can of yellow spray paint and went to town on the whole fucking park. When we confronted him about it he was super rude. Telling us 16-17 year olds to fuck off and let him skate. Then proceeded to snake in front of my buddy who ended up breaking his wrist.
I don't think they should completely ban scooters and bmx bikes, maybe just put an age restriction so nobody has to deal with the annoying little kids. It's a skate park, not a daycare...

[brycickle]

that shit is switch too

Nah man, switch fakie.

[Jo El]

My feeling is this: skateparks are for kids. Grown men have cars, money, ideas, ability...if the "scene" at the skatepark is annoying, go skate somewhere more interesting. As I get older more and more of my friends are just sticking to skateparks b/c it's easy and there's lots of tranny. When I fell in love with skateboarding back in WA state in the early 90s, there were no parks, except for a miniramp off in the woods. We'd wander around the neighborhood finding weird stuff to skate, much of it complete crap. I continue to enjoy this exercise and the chance of finding something new and being out among general society. Here comes a cliche: for me skateboarding is about the journey not the destination. Skateparks are the destination.

[Joust Ostrich]

I don't think this is what Spanky had in mind when he designed that shoe.  Maybe that is why all of his shoes have sucked sense that first one.
 "No scooterer will ever ride one of my shoes again, take that".

"and that"

[BuddyPal]

at my park its the other way around, the grown men who scooter tell us little skate kids to get lost

[ttching!]

Truly Gestapo tactics would involve concentration camps and gas chambers, which I am not opposed to in this context. For real though, run them over or go skate street.

[foureyedjim]

Truly Gestapo tactics would involve concentration camps and gas chambers, which I am not opposed to in this context. For real though, run them over or go skate street.

damn dude

[Jive Turkey]

at my park its the other way around, the grown men who scooter tell us little skate kids to get lost

[I Can't Think]

If the scooter kids actually follow park etiquette and shit, I don't mind them. Especially when they can actually scooter well. I've met a couple kids who were actually 'pro' scooter-ers and the shit they were doing was actually fairly impressive.. 
The only problem I have is when kids under 10 show up at the park and act like they run it. Recently, an 8 year old kid took a can of yellow spray paint and went to town on the whole fucking park. When we confronted him about it he was super rude. Telling us 16-17 year olds to fuck off and let him skate. Then proceeded to snake in front of my buddy who ended up breaking his wrist.
I don't think they should completely ban scooters and bmx bikes, maybe just put an age restriction so nobody has to deal with the annoying little kids. It's a skate park, not a daycare...

I couldn't agree more, there's actually this one guy at the park I usually skate, he does some serious rails with his scooter, never gets in the way, always mindful, no problems. It's not just scooters; I've seen little kids who literally couldn't walk properly attempt to skate bowl, needless to say things didn't work out well. Some parents simply don't understand how dangerous this shit can get when your kid isn't fully grown and lacking motor skills. Of course there's always a few people who are just shitheads seeking looks at the park by doing loud/stupid shit that should just leave, but that's life. On a slightly related note It's kinda odd that skaters are giving parents lectures, but this lone kiddy shits gotta stop.

On an off note I guess an invaded park forces you to go out and skate some street which isn't all bad.

[foureyedjim]

For the first time in a while, there were a ton of scooter kids at the park today.

not all of them were that bad though, this one little kid on a skateboard got in my way more than the scooter kids.

Not to mention there were two sets of filmers filming lines in one medium sized park.  What a shit day to go to the park haha

[plod]

at my park its the other way around, the grown men who scooter tell us little skate kids to get lost

Where the fuck is that?  Somewhere in bavaria?

[hamburglar]

gestapo tactic 17b
many children are too young or dumb to understand when they are getting vibes because they are dumb enough to bring a scooter (longboard,etc) to the park. usually in these situations, one of their parents will be present, making sure their child does not remove their helmet. at this point you must vibe the parent who brought their kid to the park. vibe the fuck out of that single mom. if their kid is fucking your day up, make the parent notice this. if parent or relative is not present, spit on child every time it snakes you or does something lame. if problem continues, contact local gestapo captain for consultation.

[Ronald Wilson Reagan]

I just hate getting fucking snaked by them constantly. Learn the etiquette

you let kids on scooters snake you? hahahahaha.

The reason that article is stupid is because an identical one could have been written about BMX or rollerblading. This is nothing new. 99% of parks are there because skateboarders, not bladers, or bikers, or scootererers, petitioned the city. Those things take forever to get approved. You want a place to scooter? Go fucking ask the city or build one. That's what skaters do.

[frnk]

You can't just focus a scooter.  That's something that's going to look nice to a parent that's being asked to be asked to possibly pay for this sport, even if it costs a little more initially.

As far as 'calling the cops' when the skatepark is too crowded... to me, that's just like saying, we can't handle this ourselves, step in and regulate this.  Which in some cases, as with one of the nicest local parks in my area, is going to mean people over 16-18 or whatever only get to use the facility at designated times.  Yuck.  I'd rather just try to deal with it the way it is.  I think that if this is really that much of a problem, at least some of the blame needs to go to the skateboard industry itself for intentionally continueing to promote an image of skaters going around focusing boards and damaging private property (on VIDEO, nonetheless, that is for sale afterwards).  It doesn't need to be like this, even if that's the way it really is.  Ultimately, we are the ones that need to take responsibility for the image that we portray to the rest of society, and as skateboarders, we really only have ourselves to blame [as a whole] for this 'influx' of non-skateboards at the parks.

[HATE!]