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David
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May 26, 2012, 01:28:08 AM »
this guy below is an Ivy League graduate with two master's degrees and is sleeping in shelters.
55 year old Homeless Man carries 2 Masters Degrees ( Maurice Johnson )
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May 26, 2012, 02:31:18 AM »
Theres like 6 countries with english as their first language . And Im sure he speaks atleast 1 more language
Sure he could find some job somewhere . It makes sense to work as what you went to school for but if you are becoming homeless just take any fucking job
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May 26, 2012, 03:36:19 AM »
Now that you mention it I wasn't thinking of all the possible jobs he might have had the opportunity to get and whether or not he turned them down and for what possible reason.
The seed of doubt has been sown.
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May 26, 2012, 03:47:16 AM »
The jobs that dude turned down required him to work for 4 months to earn 1000 dollars etc. That's not going to keep him alive today, never mind set him up for old age. He made the right choice.
It could be worse though. My wife knows people in Ukraine who've tried to get jobs that paid 1000 euros a year. The bribe required to secure the position? 1200 euros.
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Quote from: Monty Burns on May 26, 2012, 02:31:18 AM
Theres like 6 countries with english as their first language . And Im sure he speaks atleast 1 more language
Sure he could find some job somewhere . It makes sense to work as what you went to school for but if you are becoming homeless just take any fucking job
Oh, what an obvious solution to homelessness! The homeless just need to get a job! Why didn't anybody think of that before?!
Oh, wait...
How is he going to get to those countries? How is he going to get a computer or a printer or paper to print out a resume? Where is he going to tell these companies that he can be contacted? What suit will he wear to the interview? How will he convince the shit employer that he isn't overqualified, and won't leave that job as soon as he is treading water? How does he explain the holes in his resume to the good employer? How does he convince an employer that at 55 years old, he plans to have a long career with them? How does a homeless person dealing with all of that get the advantage over a young recent grad in an economy where there is more joblessness than jobs available?
Do you realize what a fucking giant hole being homeless puts you in? What a shortsighted comment.
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Re: Homelessness
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May 26, 2012, 08:59:30 AM »
Regardless of the intent, a guy that smart should have known how to make more prudent financial decisions.
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Re: Homelessness
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May 26, 2012, 09:19:27 AM »
intelligence is not the most important merit in today's society. Yes, in an ideal world a man that is that educated should be doing fine, but society is so much more complicated than that. Do you think he wanted to end up on the streets?
American society is so fucked up. A conversation about homelessness comes up and what are the first opinions expressed? "Its all the fault of the lazy homeless." Fucking disgusting.
I guess its a lot easier to say that than to acknowledge that society is problematic, and genuine merits in terms of what skills and intelligence a person brings to the table matter less than things like class and culture. Do you know how many people get jobs because somebody they knew hooked them up, or because they were able to get help making rent while they were looking for work, or because the guy who they went in to interview with hired them because they reminded him of himself? None of that shit has to do with what schools you went to or how smart or talented you are. Shit is complicated man, and our society is seriously fucked up. You can choose to acknowledge it, and understand that problems exist on a larger level that need to be dealt with, or you can ignore it and pretend that the better a person is, the more money they make.
A lot of people won't acknowledge that though, because they judge their own self worth based on paycheck amount. They aren't going to acknowledge the social forces that come into play in terms of their success or failure, so they sure as hell won't acknowledge it for others, and if they are judging themselves based on their own self-worth, then they are certainly judging others based on it.
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Quote from: Pearl on January 30, 2013, 07:13:27 AM
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Re: Homelessness
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Quote from: Ronald Wilson Reagan on May 26, 2012, 09:19:27 AM
intelligence is not the most important merit in today's society. Yes, in an ideal world a man that is that educated should be doing fine, but society is so much more complicated than that. Do you think he wanted to end up on the streets?
American society is so fucked up. A conversation about homelessness comes up and what are the first opinions expressed? "Its all the fault of the lazy homeless." Fucking disgusting.
I guess its a lot easier to say that than to acknowledge that society is problematic, and genuine merits in terms of what skills and intelligence a person brings to the table matter less than things like class and culture. Do you know how many people get jobs because somebody they knew hooked them up, or because they were able to get help making rent while they were looking for work, or because the guy who they went in to interview with hired them because they reminded him of himself? None of that shit has to do with what schools you went to or how smart or talented you are. Shit is complicated man, and our society is seriously fucked up. You can choose to acknowledge it, and understand that problems exist on a larger level that need to be dealt with, or you can ignore it and pretend that the better a person is, the more money they make.
A lot of people won't acknowledge that though, because they judge their own self worth based on paycheck amount. They aren't going to acknowledge the social forces that come into play in terms of their success or failure, so they sure as hell won't acknowledge it for others, and if they are judging themselves based on their own self-worth, then they are certainly judging others based on it.
This is like some introductory sociology stuff.
A person's success, or lack there of, is largely based (or wholly if you take a completely deterministic stance) on one's ascription.
And you're right - there exists problems that need to be dealt with. Basically, some type of economic/social system would need to be implemented so the least well-off would be able to meet their basic needs, probably by a tax system on the most well-off.
Rawlsian theory of justice stuff.
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May 26, 2012, 10:38:26 AM »
vic, if you're suggesting what I think you're suggesting, then you better start walkin' out of 'Merica and go to your commie Europe.
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Re: Homelessness
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Quote from: Ronald Wilson Reagan on May 26, 2012, 09:19:27 AM
intelligence is not the most important merit in today's society. Yes, in an ideal world a man that is that educated should be doing fine, but society is so much more complicated than that. Do you think he wanted to end up on the streets?
American society is so fucked up. A conversation about homelessness comes up and what are the first opinions expressed? "Its all the fault of the lazy homeless." Fucking disgusting.
I guess its a lot easier to say that than to acknowledge that society is problematic, and genuine merits in terms of what skills and intelligence a person brings to the table matter less than things like class and culture. Do you know how many people get jobs because somebody they knew hooked them up, or because they were able to get help making rent while they were looking for work, or because the guy who they went in to interview with hired them because they reminded him of himself? None of that shit has to do with what schools you went to or how smart or talented you are.� Shit is complicated man, and our society is seriously fucked up. You can choose to acknowledge it, and understand that problems exist on a larger level that need to be dealt with, or you can ignore it and pretend that the better a person is, the more money they make.
A lot of people won't acknowledge that though, because they judge their own self worth based on paycheck amount. They aren't going to acknowledge the social forces that come into play in terms of their success or failure, so they sure as hell won't acknowledge it for others, and if they are judging themselves based on their own self-worth, then they are certainly judging others based on it.
I think you're making too many excuses for the guy. I mean, he didn't just become homeless out of the blue, he made a string of decisions that resulted in him being in the situation he is in. If your father dies and your mom has Alzheimer's, I'm sorry but you don't pour all of your savings into her house so she can still live there. It would be the ideal situation maybe but if you can't afford it, you can't afford it. He had a noble cause, but I would bet that many more are homeless because they were living above their means and the recession bit them in the ass. As someone who lives modestly and goes without in a lot of ways in order to keep my self out of debt, I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who live big with money they don't have and then try and give me a sob story when they are out on the street.
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Re: Homelessness
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Quote from: jay on May 26, 2012, 10:53:50 AM
Quote from: Ronald Wilson Reagan on May 26, 2012, 09:19:27 AM
intelligence is not the most important merit in today's society. Yes, in an ideal world a man that is that educated should be doing fine, but society is so much more complicated than that. Do you think he wanted to end up on the streets?
American society is so fucked up. A conversation about homelessness comes up and what are the first opinions expressed? "Its all the fault of the lazy homeless." Fucking disgusting.
I guess its a lot easier to say that than to acknowledge that society is problematic, and genuine merits in terms of what skills and intelligence a person brings to the table matter less than things like class and culture. Do you know how many people get jobs because somebody they knew hooked them up, or because they were able to get help making rent while they were looking for work, or because the guy who they went in to interview with hired them because they reminded him of himself? None of that shit has to do with what schools you went to or how smart or talented you are.� Shit is complicated man, and our society is seriously fucked up. You can choose to acknowledge it, and understand that problems exist on a larger level that need to be dealt with, or you can ignore it and pretend that the better a person is, the more money they make.
A lot of people won't acknowledge that though, because they judge their own self worth based on paycheck amount. They aren't going to acknowledge the social forces that come into play in terms of their success or failure, so they sure as hell won't acknowledge it for others, and if they are judging themselves based on their own self-worth, then they are certainly judging others based on it.
I think you're making too many excuses for the guy. I mean, he didn't just become homeless out of the blue, he made a string of decisions that resulted in him being in the situation he is in. If your father dies and your mom has Alzheimer's, I'm sorry but you don't pour all of your savings into her house so she can still live there. It would be the ideal situation maybe but if you can't afford it, you can't afford it. He had a noble cause, but I would bet that many more are homeless because they were living above their means and the recession bit them in the ass. As someone who lives modestly and goes without in a lot of ways in order to keep my self out of debt, I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who live big with money they don't have and then try and give me a sob story when they are out on the street.
Yeah fuck someone for trying to support their parents in their old age because their parents supported them and helped him through Dartmouth and 2 more degrees after that. The string of decisions you're talking about are him moving around trying to find a job through face to face interviews, trying his best to get back onto his feet after what seemed to me, an admittedly poor financial decision. You don't know how he was living prior to losing his job when the economy crashed, he never mentions living above his means, so I firmly believe that he may or may not have been living above his means. The jobs that were offered couldn't support anyone in America, his $1000 a month teaching job payed nearly a dollar less than minimum wage at approx $6.25/hr. To think you can live anywhere off of that by simply "going without" is ludicrous.
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May 26, 2012, 11:39:30 AM »
I give homeless 40's and give them weed. It makes them really happy, way more happy than money.
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May 26, 2012, 11:42:20 AM »
Sorry gipper , didnt know all homeless ppl in the US had graduated Ivy League with two master's degrees
I wasnt talking about all homeless people . But with that kind of education the guy has he should be able to think ahead alittle bit . If you move in with your family / friends for 3-6 months that is enough money to move to another country and stay at a hostel until you find a job .
Or how about having a back up / emergency bank acount with about 5000 EUro . Thats enough to set you up in a new country or another state or city
My point was abit that there are jobs for ppl everywhere but you might have to move to get it
I havent worn a suit to any of my job interviews , never printed out my resume , taken many breaks betwen jobs .
What about telling the job you are overquilifed you will work there minimum 2 years and you really need the job cause your family needs food and shelter or they will be homeless and starving ?
getting a small place , get roommates , get any job
Im not saying this would work for everybody , and gipper stop twisting what I say around .
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Re: Homelessness
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May 26, 2012, 11:46:42 AM »
I'm not saying every homeless person has two degrees, I'm saying that two degrees isn't a guarantee that he isn't going to end up homeless. I wish it was, but its not.
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Quote from: Ronald Wilson Reagan on May 26, 2012, 11:46:42 AM
I'm not saying every homeless person has two degrees, I'm saying that two degrees isn't a guarantee that he isn't going to end up homeless. I wish it was, but its not.
Why should two degrees guarantee that you should get a job ? that makes no sense . What if he is shit in real life and cant hold down a job at all ? or if he has some mental illness ? is a drug addict ? alcoholic ? . There are tons of ppl who are only good in school and shit at working
Anyways my point was that while some situations come up , a dude like that should be able to plan ahead and try to save the situation.
Theres no point in pouring in money into a house if you are loosing money on it . Even if it has sentimental value , in the end you will lose the house and both his mom and him will be homeless
There are plenty of homeless who have done everything in life right and still become homeless , then you have homless who are addicts , and then you have homeless with mental illness .
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May 26, 2012, 12:00:56 PM »
Right. He made a bad decision. Fuck him.
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Quote from: Ronald Wilson Reagan on May 26, 2012, 12:00:56 PM
Right. He made a bad decision. Fuck him.
Your country man . In my country this doesnt happen
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May 26, 2012, 12:58:40 PM »
The world needs ditch diggers too. Even ditch diggers with multiple ivy league degrees. I think that sometimes people let themselves be defeated and it becomes a downward spiral. My mom, and many other people's mothers, single handedly raise 4 kids with no college education, held down two jobs and owns her own home. Hard work trumps everything.
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Quote from: brycickle on May 26, 2012, 12:58:40 PM
The world needs ditch diggers too. Even ditch diggers with multiple ivy league degrees. I think that sometimes people let themselves be defeated and it becomes a downward spiral. My mom, and many other people's mothers, single handedly raise 4 kids with no college education, held down two jobs and owns her own home. Hard work trumps everything.
Thats the point isnt it ? theres nothing wrong with being a ditch digger , garbage man , paper boy , dish washer and so on . A job is a job and most ppl only work so they can suport them selfs and their family . A job is a job
My dad had a full time job and 2 part time jobs
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Quote from: brycickle on May 26, 2012, 12:58:40 PM
The world needs ditch diggers too. Even ditch diggers with multiple ivy league degrees. I think that sometimes people let themselves be defeated and it becomes a downward spiral. My mom, and many other people's mothers, single handedly raise 4 kids with no college education, held down two jobs and owns her own home.
Hard work trumps everything.
This is such a simplistic reduction that it is laughable.
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Re: Homelessness
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Quote from: Monty Burns on May 26, 2012, 01:09:52 PM
Quote from: brycickle on May 26, 2012, 12:58:40 PM
The world needs ditch diggers too. Even ditch diggers with multiple ivy league degrees. I think that sometimes people let themselves be defeated and it becomes a downward spiral. My mom, and many other people's mothers, single handedly raise 4 kids with no college education, held down two jobs and owns her own home. Hard work trumps everything.
Thats the point isnt it ? theres nothing wrong with being a ditch digger , garbage man , paper boy , dish washer and so on . A job is a job and most ppl only work so they can suport them selfs and their family . A job is a job
My dad had a full time job and 2 part time jobs
and what if...I don't know...we live in an economy where there are no jobs like that readily available and the number of unemployed outnumbers the number of those employed on top of the fact that its damn near impossible to get a job as a homeless person in a good economy?
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Re: Homelessness
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May 26, 2012, 02:03:21 PM »
A couple things, what were the 'socialist' countries in Europe today going through while the US was in full fledged 'Red Scare'/McCarthyism mode back in the day? I'm curious since Monty Burns said that in his country 'this' (homelessness?) doesn't happen.
Also people are talking about how hard work is all that matters; I don't know about you, but I had to work to get good grades, and I'm sure that guy in the video applied some kind of effort as well. Not to be a wiseass or anything. Just saying.
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Quote from: oyolar on May 26, 2012, 01:44:13 PM
Quote from: brycickle on May 26, 2012, 12:58:40 PM
The world needs ditch diggers too. Even ditch diggers with multiple ivy league degrees. I think that sometimes people let themselves be defeated and it becomes a downward spiral. My mom, and many other people's mothers, single handedly raise 4 kids with no college education, held down two jobs and owns her own home.
Hard work trumps everything.
This is such a simplistic reduction that it is laughable.
There was nothing simple about how my mom raised our family. We took government handouts and lived on welfare. She's filed for bankruptcy twice, but we never went without food or some kind of shelter over our heads. She also did all of this while being a social worker, helping people find and utilize programs that can benefit the working poor. I realize that there are plenty of people out there that work hard and are still homeless. The world is a complex and difficult place, but there is always a way to get by in one way or another. I have no problem with homeless people. My problem is with bums who just want a handout. When someone asks me for money with vodka on their breath as I'm walking into my near minimum wage job, I can't have a whole lot of sympathy for them.
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Quote from: brycickle on May 26, 2012, 02:08:59 PM
Quote from: oyolar on May 26, 2012, 01:44:13 PM
Quote from: brycickle on May 26, 2012, 12:58:40 PM
The world needs ditch diggers too. Even ditch diggers with multiple ivy league degrees. I think that sometimes people let themselves be defeated and it becomes a downward spiral. My mom, and many other people's mothers, single handedly raise 4 kids with no college education, held down two jobs and owns her own home.
Hard work trumps everything.
This is such a simplistic reduction that it is laughable.
There was nothing simple about how my mom raised our family. We took government handouts and lived on welfare. She's filed for bankruptcy twice, but we never went without food or some kind of shelter over our heads. She also did all of this while being a social worker, helping people find and utilize programs that can benefit the working poor. I realize that there are plenty of people out there that work hard and are still homeless. The world is a complex and difficult place, but there is always a way to get by in one way or another. I have no problem with homeless people. My problem is with bums who just want a handout. When someone asks me for money with vodka on their breath as I'm walking into my near minimum wage job, I can't have a whole lot of sympathy for them.
I never said your situation was simple or easy. I'm sure it was very tough. What I said was that your comment of "Hard work trumps everything" was simplistic and laughable. The fact that your mom did work hard, but still took government handouts, lived on welfare (which one could argue means that she didn't "single handedly raise 4 children"), and filed for bankruptcy twice illustrates the fact that hard work DOES NOT trump everything and will not solve every problem that one faces, especially economic ones. The idea that it will is a boldfaced lie.
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Quote from: David on May 26, 2012, 02:03:21 PM
A couple things, what were the 'socialist' countries in Europe today going through while the US was in full fledged 'Red Scare'/McCarthyism mode back in the day? I'm curious since Monty Burns said that in his country 'this' (homelessness?) doesn't happen.
Also people are talking about how hard work is all that matters; I don't know about you, but I had to work to get good grades, and I'm sure that guy in the video applied some kind of effort as well. Not to be a wiseass or anything. Just saying.
I think it depends on the country. England was pretty deep into cold warrior status like the U.S., but France nearly went eastern bloc willingly. My European history isn't that great, and somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't a lot of those countries get a lot of those socialistic programs in the rebuilding immediately after WWII? That would be before the height of the cold war. They also are run in different ways. The U.S. never had an aristocracy which was overthrown like in many European nations, so the ideal of equality really isn't here, whereas in places like France it is considered as important of an ideal as liberty.
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Quote from: Ronald Wilson Reagan on May 26, 2012, 09:19:27 AM
intelligence is not the most important merit in today's society. Yes, in an ideal world a man that is that educated should be doing fine, but society is so much more complicated than that. Do you think he wanted to end up on the streets?
American society is so fucked up. A conversation about homelessness comes up and what are the first opinions expressed? "Its all the fault of the lazy homeless." Fucking disgusting.
I guess its a lot easier to say that than to acknowledge that society is problematic, and genuine merits in terms of what skills and intelligence a person brings to the table matter less than things like class and culture. Do you know how many people get jobs because somebody they knew hooked them up, or because they were able to get help making rent while they were looking for work, or because the guy who they went in to interview with hired them because they reminded him of himself? None of that shit has to do with what schools you went to or how smart or talented you are. Shit is complicated man, and our society is seriously fucked up. You can choose to acknowledge it, and understand that problems exist on a larger level that need to be dealt with, or you can ignore it and pretend that the better a person is, the more money they make.
A lot of people won't acknowledge that though, because they judge their own self worth based on paycheck amount. They aren't going to acknowledge the social forces that come into play in terms of their success or failure, so they sure as hell won't acknowledge it for others, and if they are judging themselves based on their own self-worth, then they are certainly judging others based on it.
Every word of this is true.
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Quote from: David on May 26, 2012, 02:03:21 PM
A couple things, what were the 'socialist' countries in Europe today going through while the US was in full fledged 'Red Scare'/McCarthyism mode back in the day? I'm curious since Monty Burns said that in his country 'this' (homelessness?) doesn't happen.
Also people are talking about how hard work is all that matters; I don't know about you, but I had to work to get good grades, and I'm sure that guy in the video applied some kind of effort as well. Not to be a wiseass or anything. Just saying.
Im not sure back then . Not the best at history but We have been rocking the socialist / capatalist mix since forever . Nobody is getting broke from paying for school , cause school is free and you basicly get money to go to school and you can get student loans at a very good rate if you need more money
His mother ( in this case ) could have been moved to a home here which would be coverd by her insurence or pension or the goverment. as for her meds and treatment its basicly free once you get over 100 euros
His diplomas and so on would not guarantee him a job how ever . I mean if you get 2 degrees in norse mythology . Theres a limit to how many spots are open for you . Now if you become a civil engenier or something like that . Basicly you can get a job in almost every country . Most nordic countries have a good relationship with all countries and its easy for travel and VISAs . Specialy in the EU where you can go anywhere for aslong as you want and get a job pretty much
Now I do have unemployed friends but I mostly see this as their own fult . When I suggest diffrent jobs that they could get they say its not for them or the job is too hard and so on . But its better to have a shit job then no job at all in my opinion
I do understand gippers point that the guy with best grades should get the best jobs and not the bosses daughters boyfriend . But that would mean everybody would have to give 100% in school all the time . Growing up is not suposed to be a high end contest to get best grades . Then you would miss growing up , going skating , playing sports . Getting drunk and high .
I was fucking hopless in school , shit grades thanks to sports , skating , drinking , and just straight up hating school . I didnt realise I needed school until I was 23 , and I didnt know what job I wanted to do befor I was 24 . By that time there would be tons of 18 year olds with better grades then me . Should that mean I cant get a job cause I dont have the grades ?
I made up for having shitty grades with high work ethics . Working all the time and killing it . But there are still better workers then me . Some of them might have higher grades too . Should I get fired each time somebody with better grades and work ethics shows up ?
Anyways this discution has blown up abit too much ? I still think the dude could have gotten a job somewhere . I dont think All homeless is their own fault . And I do give money / food to homeless people sometimes
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Re: Homelessness
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I'm not saying you should be fired. I'm simply pointing out that the merits we would usually view as important are not as important as a lot of bullshit that people get by or get screwed on.
Also, some people are lazy, but so what? Some people drive like shit on the road, should we stop the government from building roads so because shitty drivers are taking them for granted? A lot more people don't take them for granted and use them properly though, so we keep them around. I think the same thing goes for a strong social safety net. Granted, I understand our cultures are different Burns, which likely affects our perspective.
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Quote from: Pearl on January 30, 2013, 07:13:27 AM
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May 26, 2012, 11:48:20 PM »
I don't know what garbage shit hole the United states is, but where I live, Tim Hortons, Mcdonalds, Walmart and Startek(A massive cell phone help call in center) are hiring 24/7 even through the 2008 economy ass rape. They all pay competitive wage($1.00+ over minimum) and have better benefits than most companies.
Those places would be outstanding filler jobs while he applied for a career. And don't give me that he can't show up to interviews in suits or have what he needs or blah blah blah. Those companies hire full on retarded people and punk douche bag kids with pink hair and lip and nose rings that they wear while even working(Mainly talking about Walmart).
Albert Einstein worked as a patent clerk for years. He utilized his mundane position to allow him to consider his work and studied/wrote his papers on his own time. If you go to school just to get job that shovels you money after than you are going to school for the wrong reasons; that or don't take physics, take business and sell your soul for the job and money that comes after.
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