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« Reply #60 on: January 10, 2017, 05:28:24 PM »

Lem Lem Lem Lem...where will Lem land?

Would be epic if Sam pulls his fucking cock out of his Cali ass and puts Lem on Chocolate like he should have years ago. But Sam's a fucking idiot so I won't hold my breathe for anything intelligent to happen with a Chocolate ever again.

I really hope Lem lands somewhere good. I still watch his Diagonal part.
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« Reply #61 on: January 10, 2017, 05:56:07 PM »

I wouldn't be surprised if Palace stop doing hardware in the near future.

So all those dudes would have to go find a board sponsor?

Doesn't really make any sense.

Of course it makes sense if the hardware isn't selling. I can only speak of the UK but you very rarely see a palace board over here. Thats probably why Palace were selling the boards at 9GBP per board to shops. �In terms of a a "skate" brand they are now being considered a Joke by many over here.
I think they would be better off keeping Palace as a clothing brand, and starting a sister company that focuses on Skating.

Just for anyone that doesn't take the time 9GBP is just shy of 11 USD. I haven't worked in a skateshop for a while but that's nonsense. Even if their decks are costing them next to nothing to produce via DSM. British brands tend to sell at a wholesale price of around �21.95/�23.95 with a RRP of anywhere from �40/�50.  9GBP per deck would mean anywhere from a 400% to 500% markup on decks. If that was the case every British skate shop would buy almost exclusively palace decks. Oh and also it would mean Palace would have to be making their decks at a production cost of 4GBP or less to justify even bothering.

I could be wrong but you're talking out your arse pal.




I'm not talking out of my arse Pal- I got this late 2016 from a very reliable source who I've known for a long time.  Don't know if you are from the UK or not but the industry here is on it's arse. Good shops are going out of business all the time.
Shops won't exclusively sell something that isn't selling in the first place. If a brand has product that isn't selling they will drop the price to sell it, even if that does eventually mean a loss. I think it's safe to say Palace weren't intending to sell at this price when they produced the boards, but excess stock has to move. Shops have sales, and so do distributors. Palace probably don't have to worry about this as they are raking it in with the clothing side of the business.   Dwindle UK did a pretty similar thing with Cliche boards before the closure was announced. Can't remember the exact figures but it was along the lines of buy so many get some free.
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« Reply #62 on: January 10, 2017, 06:33:46 PM »

Al and Jeremie will be doing something new with Lucas, Flo, Max and JB, not under the dwindle camp...
That's tight. Sorry things went to shit with Cliché over at Dwindle, James
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« Reply #63 on: January 10, 2017, 08:48:45 PM »

My b meant to write daniel espinoza , who is already on royal and lakai. he will probably end up joining chocolate

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« Reply #64 on: January 10, 2017, 08:52:48 PM »

Al and Jeremie will be doing something new with Lucas, Flo, Max and JB, not under the dwindle camp...
That's tight. Sorry things went to shit with Clich? over at Dwindle, James
back to the french roots.
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« Reply #65 on: January 11, 2017, 04:52:09 AM »

It's going to be called Rendez-Vous referencing them meeting up to skate, the old car race movie and play on words Surrender.
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« Reply #66 on: January 11, 2017, 06:13:21 AM »

I wouldn't be surprised if Palace stop doing hardware in the near future.

So all those dudes would have to go find a board sponsor?

Doesn't really make any sense.

Of course it makes sense if the hardware isn't selling. I can only speak of the UK but you very rarely see a palace board over here. Thats probably why Palace were selling the boards at 9GBP per board to shops. �In terms of a a "skate" brand they are now being considered a Joke by many over here.
I think they would be better off keeping Palace as a clothing brand, and starting a sister company that focuses on Skating.

Just for anyone that doesn't take the time 9GBP is just shy of 11 USD. I haven't worked in a skateshop for a while but that's nonsense. Even if their decks are costing them next to nothing to produce via DSM. British brands tend to sell at a wholesale price of around �21.95/�23.95 with a RRP of anywhere from �40/�50.  9GBP per deck would mean anywhere from a 400% to 500% markup on decks. If that was the case every British skate shop would buy almost exclusively palace decks. Oh and also it would mean Palace would have to be making their decks at a production cost of 4GBP or less to justify even bothering.

I could be wrong but you're talking out your arse pal.




I'm not talking out of my arse Pal- I got this late 2016 from a very reliable source who I've known for a long time.  Don't know if you are from the UK or not but the industry here is on it's arse. Good shops are going out of business all the time.
Shops won't exclusively sell something that isn't selling in the first place. If a brand has product that isn't selling they will drop the price to sell it, even if that does eventually mean a loss. I think it's safe to say Palace weren't intending to sell at this price when they produced the boards, but excess stock has to move. Shops have sales, and so do distributors. Palace probably don't have to worry about this as they are raking it in with the clothing side of the business.   Dwindle UK did a pretty similar thing with Cliche boards before the closure was announced. Can't remember the exact figures but it was along the lines of buy so many get some free.
palace boards are cheap enough but not a fucking tenner what are you on
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« Reply #67 on: January 11, 2017, 06:14:14 AM »

I wouldn't be surprised if Palace stop doing hardware in the near future.

So all those dudes would have to go find a board sponsor?

Doesn't really make any sense.

Of course it makes sense if the hardware isn't selling. I can only speak of the UK but you very rarely see a palace board over here. Thats probably why Palace were selling the boards at 9GBP per board to shops. �In terms of a a "skate" brand they are now being considered a Joke by many over here.
I think they would be better off keeping Palace as a clothing brand, and starting a sister company that focuses on Skating.

Just for anyone that doesn't take the time 9GBP is just shy of 11 USD. I haven't worked in a skateshop for a while but that's nonsense. Even if their decks are costing them next to nothing to produce via DSM. British brands tend to sell at a wholesale price of around �21.95/�23.95 with a RRP of anywhere from �40/�50. �9GBP per deck would mean anywhere from a 400% to 500% markup on decks. If that was the case every British skate shop would buy almost exclusively palace decks. Oh and also it would mean Palace would have to be making their decks at a production cost of 4GBP or less to justify even bothering.

I could be wrong but you're talking out your arse pal.




I'm not talking out of my arse Pal- I got this late 2016 from a very reliable source who I've known for a long time.� Don't know if you are from the UK or not but the industry here is on it's arse. Good shops are going out of business all the time.
Shops won't exclusively sell something that isn't selling in the first place. If a brand has product that isn't selling they will drop the price to sell it, even if that does eventually mean a loss. I think it's safe to say Palace weren't intending to sell at this price when they produced the boards, but excess stock has to move. Shops have sales, and so do distributors. Palace probably don't have to worry about this as they are raking it in with the clothing side of the business. � Dwindle UK did a pretty similar thing with Cliche boards before the closure was announced. Can't remember the exact figures but it was along the lines of buy so many get some free.


Please excuse me you weren't wrong but after speaking to people about this it was end of line decks to clear stock. It seemed you were implying they sell decks at a standard price of 9GBP.

Granted I can remember Stacks decks being 10/11 quid at one point.
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« Reply #68 on: January 11, 2017, 07:46:51 AM »

I wouldn't be surprised if Palace stop doing hardware in the near future.

So all those dudes would have to go find a board sponsor?

Doesn't really make any sense.

Of course it makes sense if the hardware isn't selling. I can only speak of the UK but you very rarely see a palace board over here. Thats probably why Palace were selling the boards at 9GBP per board to shops. �In terms of a a "skate" brand they are now being considered a Joke by many over here.
I think they would be better off keeping Palace as a clothing brand, and starting a sister company that focuses on Skating.

Just for anyone that doesn't take the time 9GBP is just shy of 11 USD. I haven't worked in a skateshop for a while but that's nonsense. Even if their decks are costing them next to nothing to produce via DSM. British brands tend to sell at a wholesale price of around �21.95/�23.95 with a RRP of anywhere from �40/�50.  9GBP per deck would mean anywhere from a 400% to 500% markup on decks. If that was the case every British skate shop would buy almost exclusively palace decks. Oh and also it would mean Palace would have to be making their decks at a production cost of 4GBP or less to justify even bothering.

I could be wrong but you're talking out your arse pal.




I'm not talking out of my arse Pal- I got this late 2016 from a very reliable source who I've known for a long time.  Don't know if you are from the UK or not but the industry here is on it's arse. Good shops are going out of business all the time.
Shops won't exclusively sell something that isn't selling in the first place. If a brand has product that isn't selling they will drop the price to sell it, even if that does eventually mean a loss. I think it's safe to say Palace weren't intending to sell at this price when they produced the boards, but excess stock has to move. Shops have sales, and so do distributors. Palace probably don't have to worry about this as they are raking it in with the clothing side of the business.   Dwindle UK did a pretty similar thing with Cliche boards before the closure was announced. Can't remember the exact figures but it was along the lines of buy so many get some free.
palace boards are cheap enough but not a fucking tenner what are you on


Yeah maybe some super shitty Palace dead stock no one wants hitting the ?10 mark, lowest I've seen a 'pro' board is ?25 for a company still trading, but the boards are typically ?40-45 in our shop, they still sell pretty well, not sure where you're based in the UK, but Palace is still working

I'd agree they could cut back on some of the pish they put out and limit the runs like they used to, smaller runs, tighter product, more demand - but Dwindle probably won't allow that as a business model
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« Reply #69 on: January 11, 2017, 09:03:53 AM »

Palace apparently stopped selling their clothing to skateboards and will only sell them hardware to maintain their high class hypekook status.
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« Reply #70 on: January 11, 2017, 09:30:40 AM »

Palace apparently stopped selling their clothing to skateboards and will only sell them hardware hardgoods to maintain their high class hypekook status.
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« Reply #71 on: January 11, 2017, 09:39:39 AM »

Al and Jeremie will be doing something new with Lucas, Flo, Max and JB, not under the dwindle camp...

Can't understand how JB is still pro and on a payroll... Dude isn't really producing for years. Shared part after shared part.
And he's getting quite old. I get OG status but still.
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« Reply #72 on: January 11, 2017, 09:48:09 AM »

Palace apparently stopped selling their clothing to skateboards and will only sell them hardware to maintain their high class hypekook status.

Not far from the truth, they have asked for stock back to give to better selling stores.
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« Reply #73 on: January 11, 2017, 09:58:15 AM »

Al and Jeremie will be doing something new with Lucas, Flo, Max and JB, not under the dwindle camp...

Can't understand how JB is still pro and on a payroll... Dude isn't really producing for years. Shared part after shared part.
And he's getting quite old. I get OG status but still.

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« Reply #74 on: January 11, 2017, 10:01:47 AM »

Al and Jeremie will be doing something new with Lucas, Flo, Max and JB, not under the dwindle camp...

Can't understand how JB is still pro and on a payroll... Dude isn't really producing for years. Shared part after shared part.
And he's getting quite old. I get OG status but still.

Bad start to your slap career...
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« Reply #75 on: January 11, 2017, 10:04:39 AM »

JB is a boss and given his age, still skates at a very high level.

Def. Deeserves to still be in the pro ranks IMO
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« Reply #76 on: January 11, 2017, 10:35:52 AM »

JB is a boss and given his age, still skates at a very high level.

Def. Deeserves to still be in the pro ranks IMO

JB is a legend.
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« Reply #77 on: January 11, 2017, 10:43:58 AM »

I wouldn't be surprised if Palace stop doing hardware in the near future.

So all those dudes would have to go find a board sponsor?

Doesn't really make any sense.

Of course it makes sense if the hardware isn't selling. I can only speak of the UK but you very rarely see a palace board over here. Thats probably why Palace were selling the boards at 9GBP per board to shops. �In terms of a a "skate" brand they are now being considered a Joke by many over here.
I think they would be better off keeping Palace as a clothing brand, and starting a sister company that focuses on Skating.

Just for anyone that doesn't take the time 9GBP is just shy of 11 USD. I haven't worked in a skateshop for a while but that's nonsense. Even if their decks are costing them next to nothing to produce via DSM. British brands tend to sell at a wholesale price of around �21.95/�23.95 with a RRP of anywhere from �40/�50. �9GBP per deck would mean anywhere from a 400% to 500% markup on decks. If that was the case every British skate shop would buy almost exclusively palace decks. Oh and also it would mean Palace would have to be making their decks at a production cost of 4GBP or less to justify even bothering.

I could be wrong but you're talking out your arse pal.




I'm not talking out of my arse Pal- I got this late 2016 from a very reliable source who I've known for a long time.� Don't know if you are from the UK or not but the industry here is on it's arse. Good shops are going out of business all the time.
Shops won't exclusively sell something that isn't selling in the first place. If a brand has product that isn't selling they will drop the price to sell it, even if that does eventually mean a loss. I think it's safe to say Palace weren't intending to sell at this price when they produced the boards, but excess stock has to move. Shops have sales, and so do distributors. Palace probably don't have to worry about this as they are raking it in with the clothing side of the business. � Dwindle UK did a pretty similar thing with Cliche boards before the closure was announced. Can't remember the exact figures but it was along the lines of buy so many get some free.


Please excuse me you weren't wrong but after speaking to people about this it was end of line decks to clear stock. It seemed you were implying they sell decks at a standard price of 9GBP.

Granted I can remember Stacks decks being 10/11 quid at one point.

No worries. I never intended people to think that was a constant price, but I should have made myself clearer. I probably thought "were" selling rather than "are" selling would have covered it.  I guess the thing is in the not too distant past Palace wouldn't have had any end of line to clear, and the fact they have now should be saying something.  I think a bad part of this is due to them stopping selling soft goods to skate stores  so Palace can sell it exclusively themselves. I imagine this fucked off a lot a store owners, after all the clothing was a major source of guaranteed income for a lot of shops.

From what I see most of the Kids that were skating Palace boards are now skating Yardsale boards.
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« Reply #78 on: January 11, 2017, 11:44:30 AM »

I wouldn't be surprised if Palace stop doing hardware in the near future.

So all those dudes would have to go find a board sponsor?

Doesn't really make any sense.

Of course it makes sense if the hardware isn't selling. I can only speak of the UK but you very rarely see a palace board over here. Thats probably why Palace were selling the boards at 9GBP per board to shops. �In terms of a a "skate" brand they are now being considered a Joke by many over here.
I think they would be better off keeping Palace as a clothing brand, and starting a sister company that focuses on Skating.

Just for anyone that doesn't take the time 9GBP is just shy of 11 USD. I haven't worked in a skateshop for a while but that's nonsense. Even if their decks are costing them next to nothing to produce via DSM. British brands tend to sell at a wholesale price of around �21.95/�23.95 with a RRP of anywhere from �40/�50. �9GBP per deck would mean anywhere from a 400% to 500% markup on decks. If that was the case every British skate shop would buy almost exclusively palace decks. Oh and also it would mean Palace would have to be making their decks at a production cost of 4GBP or less to justify even bothering.

I could be wrong but you're talking out your arse pal.




I'm not talking out of my arse Pal- I got this late 2016 from a very reliable source who I've known for a long time.� Don't know if you are from the UK or not but the industry here is on it's arse. Good shops are going out of business all the time.
Shops won't exclusively sell something that isn't selling in the first place. If a brand has product that isn't selling they will drop the price to sell it, even if that does eventually mean a loss. I think it's safe to say Palace weren't intending to sell at this price when they produced the boards, but excess stock has to move. Shops have sales, and so do distributors. Palace probably don't have to worry about this as they are raking it in with the clothing side of the business. � Dwindle UK did a pretty similar thing with Cliche boards before the closure was announced. Can't remember the exact figures but it was along the lines of buy so many get some free.


Please excuse me you weren't wrong but after speaking to people about this it was end of line decks to clear stock. It seemed you were implying they sell decks at a standard price of 9GBP.

Granted I can remember Stacks decks being 10/11 quid at one point.

No worries. I never intended people to think that was a constant price, but I should have made myself clearer. I probably thought "were" selling rather than "are" selling would have covered it.  I guess the thing is in the not too distant past Palace wouldn't have had any end of line to clear, and the fact they have now should be saying something.  I think a bad part of this is due to them stopping selling soft goods to skate stores  so Palace can sell it exclusively themselves. I imagine this fucked off a lot a store owners, after all the clothing was a major source of guaranteed income for a lot of shops.

From what I see most of the Kids that were skating Palace boards are now skating Yardsale boards.
I live in the UK and Palace boards have been on auction from ?9.99 on ebay for the last year or so, myself and friends bought some below ?20, it seems like cheap Chinese wood though, loses its pop before the third ply shredded off the tail.
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« Reply #79 on: January 11, 2017, 03:21:55 PM »

I wouldn't be surprised if Palace stop doing hardware in the near future.

So all those dudes would have to go find a board sponsor?

Doesn't really make any sense.

Of course it makes sense if the hardware isn't selling. I can only speak of the UK but you very rarely see a palace board over here. Thats probably why Palace were selling the boards at 9GBP per board to shops. �In terms of a a "skate" brand they are now being considered a Joke by many over here.
I think they would be better off keeping Palace as a clothing brand, and starting a sister company that focuses on Skating.

Just for anyone that doesn't take the time 9GBP is just shy of 11 USD. I haven't worked in a skateshop for a while but that's nonsense. Even if their decks are costing them next to nothing to produce via DSM. British brands tend to sell at a wholesale price of around �21.95/�23.95 with a RRP of anywhere from �40/�50.  9GBP per deck would mean anywhere from a 400% to 500% markup on decks. If that was the case every British skate shop would buy almost exclusively palace decks. Oh and also it would mean Palace would have to be making their decks at a production cost of 4GBP or less to justify even bothering.

I could be wrong but you're talking out your arse pal.




I'm not talking out of my arse Pal- I got this late 2016 from a very reliable source who I've known for a long time.  Don't know if you are from the UK or not but the industry here is on it's arse. Good shops are going out of business all the time.
Shops won't exclusively sell something that isn't selling in the first place. If a brand has product that isn't selling they will drop the price to sell it, even if that does eventually mean a loss. I think it's safe to say Palace weren't intending to sell at this price when they produced the boards, but excess stock has to move. Shops have sales, and so do distributors. Palace probably don't have to worry about this as they are raking it in with the clothing side of the business.   Dwindle UK did a pretty similar thing with Cliche boards before the closure was announced. Can't remember the exact figures but it was along the lines of buy so many get some free.
palace boards are cheap enough but not a fucking tenner what are you on


Yeah maybe some super shitty Palace dead stock no one wants hitting the ?10 mark, lowest I've seen a 'pro' board is ?25 for a company still trading, but the boards are typically ?40-45 in our shop, they still sell pretty well, not sure where you're based in the UK, but Palace is still working

I'd agree they could cut back on some of the pish they put out and limit the runs like they used to, smaller runs, tighter product, more demand - but Dwindle probably won't allow that as a business model
Would like to point out that getting your boards manufactured by DSM does not mean that they are under the Dwindle dist umbrella.
Minimums per graphic is around 50-100 boards so yes they could do it if they felt that way.

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« Reply #80 on: January 11, 2017, 04:10:52 PM »

so many amazing riders past and present.. nuske, bressol, fonseca all sick back in the day, JJ rosseau was always my fav..

JB
Flo
Max G                       gonna start an all french thing is my guess (unless lucas does palace, coz lets face it they need him)
Lucas 
am guy(couillard?)   

Brophy-girl/choc
Sammy-hopefully hockey get their ducks in a row or something bangin dude is tight
Eldridge-hopefully he puts some steez shit out there and finds a home, style is to sick! kids take note, ur all gross compared to this
Lem-also quite steez but who knows?
Javier-very steez also, probs just gonna chill what a legend

Espinoza
Brezinski
Hart                       eh, who knows about these guys they make me tired and want to sleep  Undecided  (juskid paul hart fakie crook'd clipper)
other bowl guy?                       

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« Reply #81 on: January 11, 2017, 04:25:58 PM »

Paul hart, I say the name and unfortunately darkstar pops into my head

That would be best case scenario for him, no one else is gonna put that dude on
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« Reply #82 on: January 12, 2017, 01:39:03 AM »

J.B. Gillet - Deca 2nd to None (Hidden part) Small | Large


just wanted to leave this here. one of the best parts of all time IMO
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« Reply #83 on: January 12, 2017, 02:55:55 AM »

so many amazing riders past and present.. nuske, bressol, fonseca all sick back in the day, JJ rosseau was always my fav..

JB
Flo
Max G                       gonna start an all french thing is my guess (unless lucas does palace, coz lets face it they need him)
Lucas 
am guy(couillard?)   

Brophy-girl/choc
Sammy-hopefully hockey get their ducks in a row or something bangin dude is tight
Eldridge-hopefully he puts some steez shit out there and finds a home, style is to sick! kids take note, ur all gross compared to this
Lem-also quite steez but who knows?
Javier-very steez also, probs just gonna chill what a legend

Espinoza
Brezinski
Hart                       eh, who knows about these guys they make me tired and want to sleep  Undecided  (juskid paul hart fakie crook'd clipper)
other bowl guy?                       



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« Reply #84 on: January 12, 2017, 04:18:49 AM »

I don't wanna quote that thing for the 600th time but, Palace isn't selling? I wonder what the change would be if they switched woodshops, they're pretty respected as a brand here.
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« Reply #85 on: January 12, 2017, 04:23:27 AM »

I don't wanna quote that thing for the 600th time but, Palace isn't selling? I wonder what the change would be if they switched woodshops, they're pretty respected as a brand here.

Can't remember where they started but they use DSM now.
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« Reply #86 on: January 12, 2017, 05:23:45 AM »

JB Gillet is a boss. Put the capital G in the OG fam

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