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« on: January 15, 2017, 11:33:02 AM »

Wondering about peoples thoughts on this kinda shit.

Was chilling at the park earlier and a few guys were skating a 5 set, one guy had been trying to get a kickflip down it for a while and it was one of those struggles that he was eventually gunna get but was taking a while. Some others dudes rolled by and one of them ended up going for a switch flip, and basically told the first dude not to bother since he was gunna do it switch, sparked a bit of drama.

I think anyone should be able to do whatever they want if they aren't gettin in peoples way etc, thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2017, 12:30:34 PM »

i think most of the time, you have no right to get mad
if you're struggling with a BS board, you can't get mad when someone does a BS board
if everyone is hitting the same thing, you can't expect for people to wait for you to land a kickflip over a cone

however if you're trying some hard grind combo, probably don't show them up unless you have to

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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2017, 05:02:59 PM »

The skatepark I skate regularly is super small - the few times someone has done one of my "tricks" (ollies/180s) to make fun of me or whatever, it just ends up being awkward after we spend 30 silent minutes within 10 feet of each other.
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2017, 05:39:14 PM »

I usually ask if I can try a trick with that person out of courtesy if we're going down the same path.
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2017, 05:54:53 PM »

There's assholes in every aspect of society, skateparks are no different. If some fuckhead wants to talk to you or someone you know in a manner like that about tricks at a skatepark tell them to go fuck themselves. I remember skating a super busy park that I'd only been to a handful of times and one of the skatepark heros thought he would be funny and do the manny trick I was trying with an exaggerated ass out style. When he looked over to his mates with a smile I called him a wanker. He replied with "what did you call me?" And I said "I didn't stutter, I called you a wanker".. All his friends thought it was hilarious. I guess what I'm getting at is call these type of tools out. It's skateboarding at a park, nobody is curing cancer here.
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2017, 11:02:02 AM »

If someone does a trick you were trying you can either punch them in the face, fuck their mom, or quit being such a pussy.
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2017, 11:42:14 AM »

i think most of the time, you have no right to get mad
if you're struggling with a BS board, you can't get mad when someone does a BS board
if everyone is hitting the same thing, you can't expect for people to wait for you to land a kickflip over a cone

however if you're trying some hard grind combo, probably don't show them up unless you have to



I would agree with this.

It's definitely subjective in every way. I believe a person should not be insulted if someone boardslides the flatbar before them, even if they were trying it for some time. If the same person was trying to kickflip front board shuv out on the same flatbar, and someone outta no where does it right in front of said person, then I could understand them being bummed on that. That other person would be an asshole if they did it intentionally.

That's why before I start to session something like a flatbar, I'll take notice on what other people are trying and try to avoid that trick if I can. I think it's just common courtesy. Don't do another trick someone is obviously trying to do.
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2017, 02:11:28 PM »

When I was just starting out, I've never looked at it like they were trying to show me up. I kinda saw it as them trying to teach me how the trick is done, and most of the time it worked. Watching someone perform a trick allows you to make immediate connections in your brain which can potentially make the trick easier for you. This is actually how our species learns new skills:

"A mirror neuron is a neuron that fires both when an animal acts and when the animal observes the same action performed by another. Thus, the neuron "mirrors" the behavior of the other, as though the observer were itself acting. Such neurons have been directly observed in primate species"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_neuron

And if they truly are trying to show you up, then use that as extra motivation to get your trick first.
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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2017, 05:28:07 PM »

When I was just starting out, I've never looked at it like they were trying to show me up. I kinda saw it as them trying to teach me how the trick is done, and most of the time it worked. Watching someone perform a trick allows you to make immediate connections in your brain which can potentially make the trick easier for you. This is actually how our species learns new skills:

"A mirror neuron is a neuron that fires both when an animal acts and when the animal observes the same action performed by another. Thus, the neuron "mirrors" the behavior of the other, as though the observer were itself acting. Such neurons have been directly observed in primate species"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_neuron

And if they truly are trying to show you up, then use that as extra motivation to get your trick first.
That's interesting!
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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2017, 07:19:28 AM »

Like others have said, I think it depends on the difficulty of the trick and also the manner in which it is done/attitude of the person doing it.

In regards to the OP, it definitely a low blow to intentionally show someone up switch/tell them to not even try...that's on some straight jock shit.
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2017, 08:52:18 AM »

i think most of the time, you have no right to get mad
if you're struggling with a BS board, you can't get mad when someone does a BS board
if everyone is hitting the same thing, you can't expect for people to wait for you to land a kickflip over a cone

however if you're trying some hard grind combo, probably don't show them up unless you have to



Perfect way to put it
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2017, 04:14:20 PM »

I'm in a good spot now... U wanna try the same maneuver as me with a shitty attitude? "Let's do this, I win irregardless."

If I do the maneuver first, u got beat by a 34 year old grown ass man who 9 times outta 10 is on a 'good one' and just finished an 8hr workday.

If u do it before, me so what??? u just showed up a 34 year old grown ass man who 9 times outta 10 is on a 'good one' and just finished an 8hr workday, congrats.



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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2017, 02:09:18 AM »

I really miss those sessions back when we were kids and everybody would line up and try the same trick, see who would land it first. No beef, no hard feelings just a few buddies pushing each other skill wise and laughing at each other slam wise.
If a kid at the park is trying a trick i can easily do then i ask the kid if he wants me to do the trick so he can watch and learn. If a kid at the park is doing a trick that i can't do then i ask the kid if he can re do the trick and maybe try the trick with me so that i can watch and learn. Fuck shitty attitudes
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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2017, 03:27:56 PM »

I've generally found that it's poor form to one-up somebody on a trick, no matter the difficulty. There's a staggering amount of exceptions to this "rule," but I avoid doing the same trick as someone even if it's my warm up. I think an acknowledgment is really all that's needed. I've done the same trick right after someone and just gave dap to be like "yo, we did it." But whatever.
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2017, 09:13:36 AM »

Sometimes I will get into situations where I see people doing something that would be relatively easy for me but may be hard for them & the stoke of them trying to get something that is difficult for them just gets me stoked Cardiel style because that guy or girl is getting a piece for themselves. 9/10 times I will apologize & mention I wasn't trying to "show them up", just that I get so stoked to see them getting their piece that I want to get some time; most people are understanding & psyched.
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« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2017, 10:59:17 AM »

The skatepark I skate regularly is super small - the few times someone has done one of my "tricks" (ollies/180s) to make fun of me or whatever, it just ends up being awkward after we spend 30 silent minutes within 10 feet of each other.


lol this sounds like two awkward people taking up space. I usually say whats up to someone or give em the nod if i got headphones in if there's just a few people at the park to at least acknowledge they're also here skating.

if you're trying a trick and someone deliberately comes up and makes it a point to do the same trick in spite of you not landing it, that person is an asshole for sure. but if its a smaller park and someone is just cruising around and does the same trick in a line then no big deal. they're just doing their own thing. I always feel like the ppl that kill it are generally super nice and are just stoked to be out skating and aren't there to show anyone up 
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« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2017, 03:14:51 PM »

People should just do whatever feels good and stop worrying about it, if its taking you longer than someone else to do a trick its because you have different skill levels
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« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2017, 04:03:25 PM »

Yeah it's definitely kind of wack to do that shit, especially when there's other stuff to skate and the person has been working at it for a while. A couple years a go I went to the nicest park in my area with some friends on a Saturday afternoon.

There was a guy there trying to kickflip a small 3 block and struggling, but it was within his reach. We were skating it with him and encouraging him, etc.

Out of nowhere this cocky little flowtrash kid whips through and kickflips it first try, skates away, circles around the park, does it again, circles around the park, and kickflips it a third time, without saying a word to the guy who's been trying the same trick for like 45 minutes.

That's not accidentally trying something someone else is trying, that's deliberately trying to one-up someone and make them feel bad. There were tons of other stairs/gaps he could have done the kickflip on, as it was clearly a warmup/go-to trick for him. Not cool.
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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2017, 04:19:38 PM »

People should just do whatever feels good and stop worrying about it, if its taking you longer than someone else to do a trick its because you have different skill levels

right its like getting mad at people who finish exams before you
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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2017, 05:09:24 PM »

People should just do whatever feels good and stop worrying about it, if its taking you longer than someone else to do a trick its because you have different skill levels

right its like getting mad at people who finish exams before you
i always liked finishing really early, and then 10 seconds later 3 other people that also had no idea what their doing turns in their paper, always great.
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« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2017, 07:05:18 PM »

I mean if its a street spot its different compared to the skate park. But who cares about the skate park.
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« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2017, 01:28:45 PM »

People should just do whatever feels good and stop worrying about it, if its taking you longer than someone else to do a trick its because you have different skill levels

right its like getting mad at people who finish exams before you
i always liked finishing really early, and then 10 seconds later 3 other people that also had no idea what their doing turns in their paper, always great.

lol yea same here, that look on their faces as I rush out in a hurry to leave is priceless too
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