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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: B. Hopper on June 08, 2018, 03:43:40 PM
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Of all the specs. available to us in the modern age, I think width gets the most attention, however I contend that length is the more/most important dimension.
What say you?
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girth
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width and wheelbase
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width and wheelbase
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It all matters to me. I like 8.38 to 8.5 but prefer an 8.38. but I cant make jumps like that in length and wheelbase that easy.
I like a shorter deck with short wheelbases and short nose and tail. If I go longer it starts to feel like a boat instead of a jetski.
The G016 girl 8.375 I'm on right now feels perfect. Don't know if I'll switch it up much after riding this.
Trucks play a huge part too. My krux feel good on this girl deck but if I put my ventures or thunders on it the wheels sit way to far back in the pockets and it feels goofy as hell. Ventures even more so than thunders.
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I've tried a bunch of different setups the last year or so. Simply because I can. It's fun. Seems to me that length is relative to my height/leg length, and for street skating, that's been the biggest factor in having board control and pop...if I had to choose one dimension that is...
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width is the most impacting for me. especially when sizing down. once if ridden bigger decks anything smaller just feels unstable. i think length might be second for me.
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As someone who's been steadily sizing up in width over the last 4 years, I actually think it's wheelbase. I've been on 8.5 with 14.5 wheelbase for the last 2 years, and felt like I had a hard time scooping some shuvit and 360 shuv variations. I got a xmas complete setup recently that's 8.25 with a 14.25 wheelbase.
The WB effects the way the board turns (or feels when you land on it), and for me, where I need to set my feet up for flip tricks. It's also noticeable on scoop-based tricks. I've gotten used to it for the most part, but thing if you're only varying the width within 1/4 of an inch, wheelbase is way more important.
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i buy based on circumference and volume measurements
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It's wheelbase>length>width for me
14.375/38 WB> under 32" but over 31.5" and 8.18" min to 8.38" max
Perfection:14.375"WBx31.85"x8.3" in a FULL shape.
I can get away with a 14.25"WB if I rock Thunders.
No one makes them. Come ON DLX, make the Ishod TT in a full SE, I'M BEGGING YOU.
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A quarter of an inch on nose, tail, and wheel base is still rideable....8.25 to 9.0?..... I know it's the Internet and we are discussing it but......
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It's wheelbase>length>width for me
14.375/38 WB> under 32" but over 31.5" and 8.18" min to 8.38" max
Perfection:14.375"WBx31.85"x8.3" in a FULL shape.
I can get away with a 14.25"WB if I rock Thunders.
No one makes them. Come ON DLX, make the Ishod TT in a full SE, I'M BEGGING YOU.
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i also feel like the length and the wheelbase are more important to me than the width, i can skate anything 8.25-8.5 (usually 8.5s) but can't skate wheelbases longer than 14.38
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i also feel like the length and the wheelbase are more important to me than the width, i can skate anything 8.25-8.5 (usually 8.5s) but can't skate wheelbases longer than 14.38
I 💯% agree! Especially if you pair a longer wb with thunders.
Wb (shorter than 14.375) >length>width (8.25-8.5) I rode a real full non se and it's umongous
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anyone else literally skate whatever decks they could get their hands on when they were younger out of necessity/hand me downs/etc and now as an adult you're somewhat picky and snobbish over what you ride
anyway for me i dont really get too in depth, 8.5 seems to be the good spot for me. skated a nice somewhat shaped 8.5 with a 15" wheelbase that was perfect but they dont make em anymore :(
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anyone else literally skate whatever decks they could get their hands on when they were younger out of necessity/hand me downs/etc and now as an adult you're somewhat picky and snobbish over what you ride
Sorta the point of the thread. I started in 1980. We didn't even have specs on boards. Skateboards were just skateboards. All these dimensions and spec sheets on things are a new world to me. I keep multiple setups from 8.25 to 9 and ride them all for the same style of skating because: 1; it's fun and 2; because I can.
I don't think it's being a snob though to take advantage of having all these choices and luxuries. I think it's just fun and I enjoy having choices.
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anyone else literally skate whatever decks they could get their hands on when they were younger out of necessity/hand me downs/etc and now as an adult you're somewhat picky and snobbish over what you ride
Sorta the point of the thread. I started in 1980. We didn't even have specs on boards. Skateboards were just skateboards. All these dimensions and spec sheets on things are a new world to me. I keep multiple setups from 8.25 to 9 and ride them all for the same style of skating because: 1; it's fun and 2; because I can.
I don't think it's being a snob though to take advantage of having all these choices and luxuries. I think it's just fun and I enjoy having choices.
In the 80s all that shit was 10x30 (10" at the widest) with a WB of 15" or more. Nose and tail length didn't matter as it was all tail(probably 7" plus. It wasn't until The New Deal shapes came out that things shook up the norm and nose length started to matter, that's when we started measuring shit:P
I do miss those days, buying boards due to the shape being new or with a bigger nose, getting that first set of [small back then] 55mm wheels:P We cared less but we still knew what worked (thunder and venture) and what didn't (gullwing and tracker), Natas and Gonz boards were all we rode...
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I like my girl deck, has some nostalgia too cause I liked them a lot back then but only bought sale decks
I like that they keep it old skool with a short wheelbase but wide deck
Makes it easy to pop and flip but stable
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anyone else literally skate whatever decks they could get their hands on when they were younger out of necessity/hand me downs/etc and now as an adult you're somewhat picky and snobbish over what you ride
Sorta the point of the thread. I started in 1980. We didn't even have specs on boards. Skateboards were just skateboards. All these dimensions and spec sheets on things are a new world to me. I keep multiple setups from 8.25 to 9 and ride them all for the same style of skating because: 1; it's fun and 2; because I can.
I don't think it's being a snob though to take advantage of having all these choices and luxuries. I think it's just fun and I enjoy having choices.
i never really had any issue with specs growing up either. even if a board was wider than i was used to it was barely wider and i got used to it pretty quick. however, recently when i started riding 9.5+ decks it feels impossible when i try to ride decks 8.5 and under. i just feel so unstable.
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anyone else literally skate whatever decks they could get their hands on when they were younger out of necessity/hand me downs/etc and now as an adult you're somewhat picky and snobbish over what you ride
Sorta the point of the thread. I started in 1980. We didn't even have specs on boards. Skateboards were just skateboards. All these dimensions and spec sheets on things are a new world to me. I keep multiple setups from 8.25 to 9 and ride them all for the same style of skating because: 1; it's fun and 2; because I can.
I don't think it's being a snob though to take advantage of having all these choices and luxuries. I think it's just fun and I enjoy having choices.
i never really had any issue with specs growing up either. even if a board was wider than i was used to it was barely wider and i got used to it pretty quick. however, recently when i started riding 9.5+ decks it feels impossible when i try to ride decks 8.5 and under. i just feel so unstable.
Are you sure your riding a skateboard? Sounds like a surfboard to me
How do you even flip a 9.5??
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anyone else literally skate whatever decks they could get their hands on when they were younger out of necessity/hand me downs/etc and now as an adult you're somewhat picky and snobbish over what you ride
Sorta the point of the thread. I started in 1980. We didn't even have specs on boards. Skateboards were just skateboards. All these dimensions and spec sheets on things are a new world to me. I keep multiple setups from 8.25 to 9 and ride them all for the same style of skating because: 1; it's fun and 2; because I can.
I don't think it's being a snob though to take advantage of having all these choices and luxuries. I think it's just fun and I enjoy having choices.
i never really had any issue with specs growing up either. even if a board was wider than i was used to it was barely wider and i got used to it pretty quick. however, recently when i started riding 9.5+ decks it feels impossible when i try to ride decks 8.5 and under. i just feel so unstable.
Are you sure your riding a skateboard? Sounds like a surfboard to me
How do you even flip a 9.5??
Back in the day people use to flip boards that big no problem...
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anyone else literally skate whatever decks they could get their hands on when they were younger out of necessity/hand me downs/etc and now as an adult you're somewhat picky and snobbish over what you ride
Sorta the point of the thread. I started in 1980. We didn't even have specs on boards. Skateboards were just skateboards. All these dimensions and spec sheets on things are a new world to me. I keep multiple setups from 8.25 to 9 and ride them all for the same style of skating because: 1; it's fun and 2; because I can.
I don't think it's being a snob though to take advantage of having all these choices and luxuries. I think it's just fun and I enjoy having choices.
i never really had any issue with specs growing up either. even if a board was wider than i was used to it was barely wider and i got used to it pretty quick. however, recently when i started riding 9.5+ decks it feels impossible when i try to ride decks 8.5 and under. i just feel so unstable.
Are you sure your riding a skateboard? Sounds like a surfboard to me
How do you even flip a 9.5??
Most of us starting flipping boards at 10"
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Tail length to Wheelbase ratio is important to me... I learned the hard way with a Creature 8.8. 15" wheelbase and 6.3" tail. Fucked me up but because it was a P2 I couldn't kill it quick enough... Minimum 6.5" tail.
Width seems to be less and less of an issue, as long as its 8.38" to 9" I can make it work.
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Not sure if this is old news or not, but this is like catnip for those of us who nerd out over skateboards but instead of skateboards it was that we were cats and the catnip was this video.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sidcnh2cJH4&feature=share
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If I see 8.0 x 31.75 and I like / respect the brand, yes
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I think width is the most important, especially in the beginning. Once you realize what you truly like and your body slows up in terms of facing the downward trend of your peak, then everything matters (esp wheelbase).
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Tail length to Wheelbase ratio is important to me... I learned the hard way with a Creature 8.8. 15" wheelbase and 6.3" tail. Fucked me up but because it was a P2 I couldn't kill it quick enough... Minimum 14.5" tail.
Width seems to be less and less of an issue, as long as its 8.38" to 9" I can make it work.
damn, are you a longboarder?
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I prefer the 8.12/8.18 with that 14.25wb... Also prefer under 32" in length.
Steep concave as well. Anything too flat, feels like it has more room to flex.
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Use to be I preferred 8" but somehow got use to 8.25" and everything in between till 9" I like a good foot placement and wheelbase to feel solid when getting down and landing cool shit, small boards just seem like toothpicks when I skate anything smaller than 8" Also I know it's probably bullshit but I like the hightech boards for impact support, Right now I have a Real Heavyweights 8.25" super awesome landed a few gaps and stairs no stress no bs good sailing.
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Theres no real good place for this so i figured asking those who nerd out on 1/8th inches might be the best.
Do any of you guys feel your board is smaller when its dark?
i went skating last night for maybe 15 minutes before it was dark out. leaving my place board felt normal and good, coming back down the same street a while later my board felt like a twig
only thing that changed was it was noticeably darker
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Theres no real good place for this so i figured asking those who nerd out on 1/8th inches might be the best.
Do any of you guys feel your board is smaller when its dark?
i went skating last night for maybe 15 minutes before it was dark out. leaving my place board felt normal and good, coming back down the same street a while later my board felt like a twig
only thing that changed was it was noticeably darker
Umm ate a bunch of LSD and my board and I were linked as one and landed many tricks I never thought possible, Birmingham Alabama pickwick center kickflipped the set after 20+ tries and landed it sketchy in footage but while I was on acid it was rad..... but yeah I see that baords seem smaller when I have my glasses off during night time skate sessions.
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**Warning: Gear Nerd post** In my old age, nose and tail length are most important to me, more than any other specs. If a tail is under 6.5 it's a non starter. It goes back in the deck rack. 6.5 is the minimum. My favorite shape, bar none, is the 8.125 Generator shape Isle uses. I am going back to it after this Quasi is done. The tail is 6.6ish and perfectly shaped for tailslides. I can only do 3 tricks, one of which is tailside.
The tail on Crail's G027 is a whopping 6.75. Tailsliders dream.
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ive been told by those in the know that thickness is more inportant than length.
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Theory proven. This is the Kenny Anderson G042 shape. 8.5" wide, but only a 14" wheelbase and 31.625 length. Just got hip to the Ace trucks too from Indy, so the wheelbase is even shorter.
The length though. Immediately my kickflips, mannys, and my skating in general all started clicking. My points of balance and foot placement naturally line up and I credit the length first and foremost. The wheelbase 2nd, and the width is of no significance. I've been on an 8.25 and 8.38 in the weeks leading up to this deck.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BkTotyeFJny/?taken-by=boarderhoppersskatemedia
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Theory further proven. I stand about 5'8". This is an 8.25"W, 14" WB, but a 31" L! Even shorter than the Chocolate, which I already thought was SHORT.
This is probably the limit for how short I could comfortably go, but it's damn near perfection. I'm sure there's some sort of inseam vs. deck length formula to be determined that would make for a good nerd out session but I love this thing.
More control. More responsive.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bkwf1MIl08u/?taken-by=boarderhoppersskatemedia