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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: lamfordie on June 11, 2018, 12:48:15 PM
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http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2018/06/11/skaters-rapper-equivalents/
Great stuff. Let's keep it going.
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This shit is terrible
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stupid. but always thought that al davis is method man
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shit article
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I thought there was a chance this article could be bad, but oh boy, not this bad.
From the start, comparing Tupac to Dylan....fucking cringe.
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Shit
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jereme rogers - gentle jones
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jereme rogers - gentle jones
For a dude who doesn’t want people to think he’s a nazi, you sure are mad at that dude for exposing a nazi. Its weird how not being a racist you always end up on the racist side of shit
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jereme rogers - gentle jones
For a dude who doesn’t want people to think he’s a nazi, you sure are mad at that dude for exposing a nazi. Its weird how not being a racist you always end up on the racist side of shit
wrong thread guy, dude is lame for gratuitous self promotion. and white rapping.
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YUNG BAWTAWD AKA WHITE NIGGA SHAWTY
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Wiz Khalifa - Boo Johnson
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Brian Wenning - Fat Joe
Ali Boulala - DMX
Doug "Pineapple" Saladino - Big Daddy Kane
Dune - Doo Doo Brown
Andrew Brophy - RZA
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I don't want to take away from how bad the comparisons were, but the drawings were equally terrible. Especially Ishod and Nyjah.
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I don't want to take away from how bad the comparisons were, but the drawings were equally terrible. Especially Ishod and Nyjah.
pj looked ancient but i didn't wanna criticize since i doubt i could draw pj
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jereme rogers - gentle jones
For a dude who doesn’t want people to think he’s a nazi, you sure are mad at that dude for exposing a nazi. Its weird how not being a racist you always end up on the racist side of shit
wrong thread guy, dude is lame for gratuitous self promotion. and white rapping.
Every thread you are in is the right thread. You are obsessed with him because he made a nazi feel unwelcome in skating, which is why you care at all about his self promoting.
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Worst article I only skimmed through in a very long time. Who was the author of this and what’s their credientials as far as hip hop goes? A fuckin slap thread woulda been better than this shit
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ave and dill as outkast (big boi and andre 3000, respectively)
also was trying to think of a team that could fit for wu-tang clan. first thing that came to mind was girl, mainly based on the insane talents of all the members and the launching of numerous side projects. and the similar timeline of the discography/videography: enter the wu-tang ('93)/goldfish ('94), wu-tang forever ('97)/mouse ('96), the w ('00)/yeah right ('03). was thinking carroll/howard in the gza/rza role, koston as method man?
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my hip hop credentials arent in order, but Muska's gotta be Muska
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Ishod is wayne not Quavo
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Steve Berra - Mike Shinoda
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They got Tony Hawk looking like a fucking Skyrim NPC.
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That was brutal, one of jenkems worst articles
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Looks like the illustrator had never seen pictures of any of these people and solely went off of written descriptions.
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I don't want to take away from how bad the comparisons were, but the drawings were equally terrible. Especially Ishod and Nyjah.
pj looked ancient but i didn't wanna criticize since i doubt i could draw pj
haha give them a break!! all their good drawings were used for their latest book!! ;D
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Jereme Rogers - Riff Raff
Jamie Foy - Rick Ross
Leticia Bufoni - Nicki Minaj
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THAT SHIT WAS TERRIBLE
DYLAN = 2 PAC
GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE AND JUST STOP
LET PPL WHO PASSED AWAY JUST REST
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Jereme Rogers - Riff Raff
This is good, but I think Jereme is more out of his mind than riff raff, somehow
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Fred Gall- ODB
Chris Gentry- Chris Gentry
Brandon Turner-Brandon Turner
Neen Williams- Waka Flaka (with a side of chana masala)
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Jereme Rogers - Riff Raff
Jamie Foy - Rick Ross
Leticia Bufoni - Nicki Minaj
did LOL! Jereme could also be himself really
For some reason I wanted Puleo to be immortal technique
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Gentle Jones only spits writtens!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GRkI609uQk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK40aBtV9-c
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Jereme Rogers-Jereme Rogers
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Andrew Brophy - RZA
hahahahaha
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Smolik - Yelawolf
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Great idea poorly executed
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Shane Heyl - Flavour Flav
Shawn Powers - Tekashi69
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I died at the PJ drawing hahaha
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Kanye west is talented? Quite the reach.
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antwuan- chief keef (also could be Brophy with both of their “Gang !” obsessions)
Reynolds- Dr. Dre
Grosso- Joe Budden
Baby scumbag- Tekashi 69
Boo johnson- lil pump
Kanye west is talented? Quite the reach.
No it isn’t. His personality interferes with his legacy, but the dude has a pretty undeniable list of accomplishments
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Cringe
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Andrew Brophy - RZA
if anyones RZA its mike carroll
also this thread is still fucking terrible
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antwuan- chief keef (also could be Brophy with both of their “Gang !” obsessions)
Reynolds- Dr. Dre
Grosso- Joe Budden
Baby scumbag- Tekashi 69
Boo johnson- lil pump
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Kanye west is talented? Quite the reach.
No it isn’t. His personality interferes with his legacy, but the dude has a pretty undeniable list of accomplishments
He's an average beat producer and rapper.
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more awful material from jenkem. what's new
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Kanye west is talented? Quite the reach.
you have to be a real bonehead to not see this dudes talent. its one thing to not like him as a person, but the impact his music and the music he has produced for hip hop is legendary.
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Wes Kremer - Opio
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Gentle Jones only spits writtens!
fake news
https://youtu.be/CAvTpmZrvLQ (https://youtu.be/CAvTpmZrvLQ)
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ave and dill as outkast (big boi and andre 3000, respectively)
also was trying to think of a team that could fit for wu-tang clan. first thing that came to mind was girl, mainly based on the insane talents of all the members and the launching of numerous side projects. and the similar timeline of the discography/videography: enter the wu-tang ('93)/goldfish ('94), wu-tang forever ('97)/mouse ('96), the w ('00)/yeah right ('03). was thinking carroll/howard in the gza/rza role, koston as method man?
So who is the worst Girl rider in history because they would be Cappadonna
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more awful material from jenkem. what's new
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Terrible article. The difference between Gino and Nas is that Nas still raps.
Gino and Lauryn Hill is a better comparison. Everyone loves them, but they've been semi reclusive since 1998.
Sean Pablo and Lil B are similar. At their heights, both are a litmus test to see how young and absurdist a person is. 70% of their hate comes from confused 90s dudes. Their influence on the culture is both underrated and overrated at the same time.
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where’s the memphis love?
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ave and dill as outkast (big boi and andre 3000, respectively)
also was trying to think of a team that could fit for wu-tang clan. first thing that came to mind was girl, mainly based on the insane talents of all the members and the launching of numerous side projects. and the similar timeline of the discography/videography: enter the wu-tang ('93)/goldfish ('94), wu-tang forever ('97)/mouse ('96), the w ('00)/yeah right ('03). was thinking carroll/howard in the gza/rza role, koston as method man?
So who is the worst Girl rider in history because they would be Cappadonna
haha damn, harsh! as an unabashed crail stan, it pains me to pick the worst, but for the sake of the comparison, i'll have to go with robbie mckinley as cappadonna. more so for their painstakingly long journey to become an "official" member, and their somewhat significant contributions to their respective group's third project (the w/yeah right).
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I'm the best rapper on earth and u know it.
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ave and dill as outkast (big boi and andre 3000, respectively)
also was trying to think of a team that could fit for wu-tang clan. first thing that came to mind was girl, mainly based on the insane talents of all the members and the launching of numerous side projects. and the similar timeline of the discography/videography: enter the wu-tang ('93)/goldfish ('94), wu-tang forever ('97)/mouse ('96), the w ('00)/yeah right ('03). was thinking carroll/howard in the gza/rza role, koston as method man?
So who is the worst Girl rider in history because they would be Cappadonna
haha damn, harsh! as an unabashed crail stan, it pains me to pick the worst, but for the sake of the comparison, i'll have to go with robbie mckinley as cappadonna. more so for their painstakingly long journey to become an "official" member, and their somewhat significant contributions to their respective group's third project (the w/yeah right).
i did a show with cappadonna (a million years ago) and was amazed with how many verses he did on classic records that i love and nearly forgot about. cap seemed like he did every single rhyme he knew that night, dude fucking rhymed for over 3 hours. and it was all heat. the soundman had to cut the power to stop him. for real its after 3am and the bartender and the soundman are ready to go home and the power is cut and capadonna is still rhyming (yelling with no mic) and the crowd is still cheering him on. they literally had to drag him offstage and tell everyone to go home. cappadonna is the shit.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bj7621bF0OX/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bj7621bF0OX/)
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ave and dill as outkast (big boi and andre 3000, respectively)
also was trying to think of a team that could fit for wu-tang clan. first thing that came to mind was girl, mainly based on the insane talents of all the members and the launching of numerous side projects. and the similar timeline of the discography/videography: enter the wu-tang ('93)/goldfish ('94), wu-tang forever ('97)/mouse ('96), the w ('00)/yeah right ('03). was thinking carroll/howard in the gza/rza role, koston as method man?
So who is the worst Girl rider in history because they would be Cappadonna
haha damn, harsh! as an unabashed crail stan, it pains me to pick the worst, but for the sake of the comparison, i'll have to go with robbie mckinley as cappadonna. more so for their painstakingly long journey to become an "official" member, and their somewhat significant contributions to their respective group's third project (the w/yeah right).
I totally back this comparison.
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ave and dill as outkast (big boi and andre 3000, respectively)
also was trying to think of a team that could fit for wu-tang clan. first thing that came to mind was girl, mainly based on the insane talents of all the members and the launching of numerous side projects. and the similar timeline of the discography/videography: enter the wu-tang ('93)/goldfish ('94), wu-tang forever ('97)/mouse ('96), the w ('00)/yeah right ('03). was thinking carroll/howard in the gza/rza role, koston as method man?
So who is the worst Girl rider in history because they would be Cappadonna
haha damn, harsh! as an unabashed crail stan, it pains me to pick the worst, but for the sake of the comparison, i'll have to go with robbie mckinley as cappadonna. more so for their painstakingly long journey to become an "official" member, and their somewhat significant contributions to their respective group's third project (the w/yeah right).
i did a show with cappadonna (a million years ago) and was amazed with how many verses he did on classic records that i love and nearly forgot about. cap seemed like he did every single rhyme he knew that night, dude fucking rhymed for over 3 hours. and it was all heat. the soundman had to cut the power to stop him. for real its after 3am and the bartender and the soundman are ready to go home and the power is cut and capadonna is still rhyming (yelling with no mic) and the crowd is still cheering him on. they literally had to drag him offstage and tell everyone to go home. cappadonna is the shit.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bj7621bF0OX/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bj7621bF0OX/)
I believe it! every Wu song cappadonna was featured in was fire and his verses were on point, but when that solo album was released it was hard for me to get through it all. maybe my expectations were too high.
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hip hop fans know this sucked
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Steve Olson...no, the other Steve Olson - Krayzee Monk Boy or whatever his name is
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I was trying to think of what this article reminded me of, then I remembered that Quartersnacks did a similar/better article years ago.
http://quartersnacks.com/2014/07/the-greatest-guest-tricks-in-skate-video-history/
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Kanye west is talented? Quite the reach.
you have to be a real bonehead to not see this dudes talent. its one thing to not like him as a person, but the impact his music and the music he has produced for hip hop is legendary.
He was good, about a dozen years ago. Then his brain slowly turned to mush, and now he is garbage, in artistic endeavors and just as a human being. Shame really.
I thought the article was about as good as it could be, which isn't saying much, but seems like a lot of hurt feelings around here.
Ernie Torres is Phife Dawg.
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Good concept mixed execution
Ishod is kendrick
Mike carroll rakim
Gonz, maybe, KRS-1
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GINO IANUCCI = NAS
Proper East Coast icons and idols (G.O.A.T.s, if you will) still riding the wave of their greatest hits released well over 20 years ago. Neither one of these guys have had a really strong latter half of their career, but that seems to be pretty OK in everyone’s books.
(http://78.media.tumblr.com/d8c2ddd95a18c468e298827a4ce2a951/tumblr_muxke9taLI1qb1y4go1_400.gif)
Nas has one of the greatest catalogs in rap history, could be argued the greatest. His last album was dope and he’s dropping an album this Friday. That “it was only his early stuff” shit is BS. Obviously Illmatic is better, but Illmatic is better than all rap albums.
NYJAH HUSTON = DRAKE
These child prodigies are still holding on to the top spot of their respective lanes. Whenever a new project drops, the hate comes pouring in, but you can’t help but pay attention to the industries’ most-watched men… and besides, look at those fucking streaming/view numbers, bro.
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/e0bf3445926dcb9ee944ed4de192b65e/tenor.gif?itemid=7394843)
Only time I pay attention to Drake is when Meek is exposing him for not writing lyrics or when Pusha T is dismantling him lyrically for being a deadbeat dad wearing blackface. Nyjah does his own stunts no ghost-skater and therefore can be considered one of the best, unlike Drake.
ISHOD = QUAVO (OF MIGOS)
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/dd0ac1f8830cff8d3d28b8cdf6788472/tenor.gif?itemid=5043510)
Shoulda compared him to Biggie cuz of the top notch flow and cuz Ishod is one of the GOATs. Not some mumble rap trash.
PJ LADD = EMINEM
Please do not disrespect da gawd Patrick John by comparing him to that cornball
THE MCCLUNG BROTHERS = MAC MILLER, POST MALONE, & MACKLEMORE
Who are these people
STEPHEN LAWYER = LIL PUMP
“Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang! Esskeetit!”
Never heard Lil Pump but this seems accurate
ERIC KOSTON = KANYE WEST
TONY HAWK = DR. DRE
Ok
DYLAN RIEDER = 2PAC
Ehh
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Kanye west is talented? Quite the reach.
One of the most talented producers and beatmakers to ever do it. Up there with Dre and Rza. Despite being insane to a level that I can no longer defend.
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Gonz is ODB because there’s no father to their style
Really he probably deserves to be one of the 80s innovators who took it to a new level.
Rodney Mullen is Rakim because they break it down scientifically
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Terrible article. The difference between Gino and Nas is that Nas still raps.
Gino and Lauryn Hill is a better comparison. Everyone loves them, but they've been semi reclusive since 1998.
Sean Pablo and Lil B are similar. At their heights, both are a litmus test to see how young and absurdist a person is. 70% of their hate comes from confused 90s dudes. Their influence on the culture is both underrated and overrated at the same time.
Confused? who you? lil b has/created his own lane and im not even a fan. sean is a just some faggot with all the correct connections who isnt talented one bite.
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shawn powers is tekashi 69 after he cleans that shit of his face.
samaria brevard used to look like the lady of rage a few yrs ago doing long nollie bs lipslides. she had more ass then too.
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Steve Rocco- Rick Rubin
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Kanye west is talented? Quite the reach.
you have to be a real bonehead to not see this dudes talent. its one thing to not like him as a person, but the impact his music and the music he has produced for hip hop is legendary.
Hahaha this is amazing. Legendary! God damn the bar has sunk so fucking low.
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Maybe he should dickride skate industry heads and make shitty re edit skate videos like you Manolhoe
That takes real talent
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Jesus why straight to personal attacks? Just talking about music and there you go.....I don't like west he's a douchebag and very overrated and i'm not the only one to share that opinion. There's many better producers and mcs than this fucking guy.
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Terrible article. The difference between Gino and Nas is that Nas still raps.
Gino and Lauryn Hill is a better comparison. Everyone loves them, but they've been semi reclusive since 1998.
Sean Pablo and Lil B are similar. At their heights, both are a litmus test to see how young and absurdist a person is. 70% of their hate comes from confused 90s dudes. Their influence on the culture is both underrated and overrated at the same time.
Confused? who you? lil b has/created his own lane and im not even a fan. sean is a just some faggot with all the correct connections who isnt talented one bite.
I like both actually, sometimes I feel SP's coverage is a bit much. I would say that both dudes had/have similar types of haters - older dudes who dont get why a guy like that is even promoted to begin with.
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Fred Gall- ODB
I disagree with this one. IMO Fred Gall is Redman and Harold Hunter is ODB.
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He's an average beat producer
he's well above average, i'd even say he's one of the best ever
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Jesus why straight to personal attacks? Just talking about music and there you go.....I don't like west he's a douchebag and very overrated and i'm not the only one to share that opinion. There's many better producers and mcs than this fucking guy.
sorry bonehead hurt your feeling. i thought it was alot more lighthearted. i still think your talking out your ass and the ppl that share your opnion are as well and im sure you and like minded individuals that share your opinion think the same about me. we have a difference of opinion. its ok.
idk how bonehead was personal but either way im sorry.
also who are these better producers!?! and yeah i think 22 grammys def puts you in the legendary conversation, you dont get that many grammys as a rapper (yess i know the grammys are shit but 22 of them def speaks volumes my guy), weather you like it or not most of his catalog is considered hip hop classics. idk how old you are but since west's inception he's always been at the fore front. idk if its cause your a jedi minds tricks kinda guy but the rest of the world clearly agrees with me. look i dont think he's a better rapper then nas or jay or idk a plethora of dudes, but to act like he has 0 talent or is just all hype comes off as asinine. i dont like lil wayne, i think other ppl do his job alot better but i can clearly see his impact and his talent, i can see what brings to the table. you dont have to like kanye but your gonna look real foolish acting like he's just some regular shmegular artist....
I was replying to bawtawd post!!
I don't think grammys are really representative of artistic quality in music. Something annoying also and never really brought up is the actual guys in the music studios behind celebrities like west. They're pretty much doing 80% of the job. Dude rolls in with a sample and actual very very good studio producers and arrangers do the job.
Anybody who knows a little bit about rap history knows that kanye isn't a very good rapper. Sucessful? definitely. But once you're a celebrity and have access to mass media you can pretty much sell any garbage. And get grammys.....Look where we are now with dudes like lil confetti and little yacht being labeled genius.
What do you do to actual musical genius like Coltrane or Mozart when you call dudes like that the same word?
It's fucking sad.
There's a scale when it come to talent and skills in the trade of music, it has nothing to do with being rich or famous.
All this to say that talking about skills, Koston was way more talented in skateboarding than west in rap.
Producers that obliterate Kanye any day:
Dj Premier
J Dilla
Large Professor
Diamond D
Ayatollah
The Alchemist
Pete Rock
MF DOOM
DRE
Rza
Q-Tip
Lord Finesse
Apollo Brown
4th Disciple
Prince Paul
Dan The Automator
J-zone
Madlib
Just Blaze
Vinyl Reanimators
JRawls
9th Wonder
Hi Tek
Da Beatminerz
Marley Marl
Logic
No I.D
Statik Selektah
Havoc
Rick Rubin
Erick Sermon
Godfather Don
Dj Babu
Easy Mo Bee
Dj Muggs
De La
Kankick
The Neptunes
Marco Polo
Probably forgetting a lot..
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9th wonder lives across the street from a old friend in a normal house, weird. Everythings cool, its hype that causes problems. When the hype eclipses the talent it makes the talent seem less gooder. Music arguers are the worst.
Its all ding ding dong bing bing bong
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As I was reading the article, I kept think to myself, “I hope the author of this article raps it up soon.”
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MF Doom got a great ear for samples but he has used some of the worst drum kits in hip-hop. And like 90% of people you listed dont have Kanyes range or longevity.
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manolo listens to jedi mind tricks
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You listen to Justin Bieber
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Lil Debbie=Jimmy Carlin
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manolo listens to jedi mind tricks
hahaha
MF Doom got a great ear for samples but he has used some of the worst drum kits in hip-hop. And like 90% of people you listed dont have Kanyes range or longevity.
agreed. i like ALOT if not close all of the dudes on his list. but like you said...that range! either way i dont think anyone is gonna convince manolo ye got talent.
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I agree for doom altough it makes his sound unique. Kanye is talented but overrated and a gigantic douchebag.
He also never ever produce anything remotely as groundbreaking and unique as RZA 36chambers.
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I agree for doom altough it makes his sound unique. Kanye is talented but overrated and a gigantic douchebag.
He also never ever produce anything remotely as groundbreaking and unique as RZA 36chambers.
rza would never ever produce anything remotely as groundbreaking and unique as the college dropout
this is such a bad comparison, yeah 36 chambers has great production, it's a groundbreaking album and shit, but it's an album from 1993 and hip-hop was way different then than it was in fucking 2004 and later. also, all in all kanye's a better producer than rza, even though rza is good too (btw one of his best beats (dark fantasy) went to kanye).
THE MCCLUNG BROTHERS = MAC MILLER, POST MALONE, & MACKLEMORE
Who are these people
i think that's the point
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a gigantic douchebag.
a rapper a douchebag?!?!? well i never!! perish the thought!
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rza would never ever produce anything remotely as groundbreaking and unique as the college dropout
this is such a bad comparison, yeah 36 chambers has great production, it's a groundbreaking album and shit, but it's an album from 1993 and hip-hop was way different then than it was in fucking 2004 and later. also, all in all kanye's a better producer than rza, even though rza is good too (btw one of his best beats (dark fantasy) went to kanye).
that made me lol, thanks.
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rza would never ever produce anything remotely as groundbreaking and unique as the college dropout
this is such a bad comparison, yeah 36 chambers has great production, it's a groundbreaking album and shit, but it's an album from 1993 and hip-hop was way different then than it was in fucking 2004 and later. also, all in all kanye's a better producer than rza, even though rza is good too (btw one of his best beats (dark fantasy) went to kanye).
that made me lol, thanks.
it's the truth though
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rza would never ever produce anything remotely as groundbreaking and unique as the college dropout
this is such a bad comparison, yeah 36 chambers has great production, it's a groundbreaking album and shit, but it's an album from 1993 and hip-hop was way different then than it was in fucking 2004 and later. also, all in all kanye's a better producer than rza, even though rza is good too (btw one of his best beats (dark fantasy) went to kanye).
that made me lol, thanks.
it's the truth though
i would argue that they are more similar than yall are making them out to be. different sounds and a different time for sure but they're similar in their influence - they are both innovators that changed the landscape of hip hop at different times.(rza for the better kanye for the worst? - that would be a more interesting argument atleast) it's just easier and maybe fairer to criticize kanye cause he's a fucking wackjob and came up in the wayne era. i just wanna add that i fucking love a rza beat. they're both top 5 for me. just my 2c
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Rza innovated hella shit from 93-97, most notably his liberal use of sampling where he would use inaudible hums and syllables as instruments. Without that there's no Kanye or 9th wonder. Thing is he fell off hard when hip hop moved into more polished productions and he had inferior beats to other producers on Supreme Clientele and Nigga Please.
Kanye on the other hand has had top notch shit since 2001 only really fucking up when he goes on his super experimental Yeezus shit. That said I would say Kanye still only squeks by the Rza.
For the record, my list of producers who could body Ye is this
Premier
Dre
Timbaland
Madlib
Alchemist
Neptunes
Organized Noise
9th Wonder
Pete Rock
Just Blaze (on a good day)
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Jesus why straight to personal attacks? Just talking about music and there you go.....I don't like west he's a douchebag and very overrated and i'm not the only one to share that opinion. There's many better producers and mcs than this fucking guy.
sorry bonehead hurt your feeling. i thought it was alot more lighthearted. i still think your talking out your ass and the ppl that share your opnion are as well and im sure you and like minded individuals that share your opinion think the same about me. we have a difference of opinion. its ok.
idk how bonehead was personal but either way im sorry.
also who are these better producers!?! and yeah i think 22 grammys def puts you in the legendary conversation, you dont get that many grammys as a rapper (yess i know the grammys are shit but 22 of them def speaks volumes my guy), weather you like it or not most of his catalog is considered hip hop classics. idk how old you are but since west's inception he's always been at the fore front. idk if its cause your a jedi minds tricks kinda guy but the rest of the world clearly agrees with me. look i dont think he's a better rapper then nas or jay or idk a plethora of dudes, but to act like he has 0 talent or is just all hype comes off as asinine. i dont like lil wayne, i think other ppl do his job alot better but i can clearly see his impact and his talent, i can see what brings to the table. you dont have to like kanye but your gonna look real foolish acting like he's just some regular shmegular artist....
I was replying to bawtawd post!!
I don't think grammys are really representative of artistic quality in music. Something annoying also and never really brought up is the actual guys in the music studios behind celebrities like west. They're pretty much doing 80% of the job. Dude rolls in with a sample and actual very very good studio producers and arrangers do the job.
Anybody who knows a little bit about rap history knows that kanye isn't a very good rapper. Sucessful? definitely. But once you're a celebrity and have access to mass media you can pretty much sell any garbage. And get grammys.....Look where we are now with dudes like lil confetti and little yacht being labeled genius.
What do you do to actual musical genius like Coltrane or Mozart when you call dudes like that the same word?
It's fucking sad.
There's a scale when it come to talent and skills in the trade of music, it has nothing to do with being rich or famous.
All this to say that talking about skills, Koston was way more talented in skateboarding than west in rap.
Producers that obliterate Kanye any day:
Dj Premier
J Dilla
Large Professor
Diamond D
Ayatollah
The Alchemist
Pete Rock
MF DOOM
DRE
Rza
Q-Tip
Lord Finesse
Apollo Brown
4th Disciple
Prince Paul
Dan The Automator
J-zone
Madlib
Just Blaze
Vinyl Reanimators
JRawls
9th Wonder
Hi Tek
Da Beatminerz
Marley Marl
Logic
No I.D
Statik Selektah
Havoc
Rick Rubin
Erick Sermon
Godfather Don
Dj Babu
Easy Mo Bee
Dj Muggs
De La
Kankick
The Neptunes
Marco Polo
Probably forgetting a lot..
i missed that post, my fault.
also some of those dudes are def not better then west...rza!? GTFO thats someone whose coasted off hype and association. dj muggz!!!!! fuck no. NO I.D.......yes thats west mentor. i would never said kanye is a great rapper, like its obvi he aint lyrically the best or close. my thing is alot of these dudes arent still the type of artist ye is. i feel like your looking at it very black and white and its alot more then just a sound. i mean that nigga ye clearly has a vision alot more deeper then a good amount of the niggas you listed. alot of those dudes are rt two dimensional. amazing producers but lord finesse aint evolved or stepped out his box in never. its the whole package my guy.
i dont care if you like ye or think other niggas are better, i guess you saying "kanye talented? thats a reach" was out of pocket...
i agree 9th wonder,no id,just blaze, premier, and a few other on that list are "better" producers but i still think kanye AS A WHOLE ENTIRE ARTIST is very very talented.
Jesus Christ now you got me arguing both sides. Rzas run from 93 to at least 2001 was unparalleled, genius, game changing production. All the Wu albums and all the solo albums. Dude was on a tear and is still imitated.
You thought Kanye started the chipmunked soul sample trend? He studied Rza for that.https://youtu.be/1th02cIRkmM
Rza the muthafuckin GOAT. Change your screen name and avi and go listen to Cuban Linx
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watch these rap niggas get all up in ya guts french vanilla, butter pecan, chocolate deluxe
premo is the goat though
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watch these rap niggas get all up in ya guts french vanilla, butter pecan, chocolate deluxe
premo is the goat though
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/LLUXJeExrOxz2/giphy.gif)
Premo is an acceptable answer too
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Kirchart and Klein = MC Miker G and DJ Sven
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Bawtawd is lil wyte.
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Ishod is Steve Urkel
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Rza the muthafuckin GOAT. Change your screen name and avi and go listen to Cuban Linx
niggo go listen to bobby digital,
ok ok ok i mighta went harsh on the rza, hes def a legend in the game and i was talking wayy too spicy lol but idk he made ALOT of trash music too (digital bullet/bobby digital). as for my name and avi i made that shit back in the day when i used to bang wu harder then a white college dude, i still fux with them (they are legends/GOATS/da best/ whatever whatever) but idk the rza a coke head fool and you fucking know it. he got more talent in his pinky then my whole entire body but under that pinky nail is a bump of coke and that shit def be fucking up his music sometimes (eg. albums i listed above)
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nvm i take back what i said about RZA, im dumb and played myself. i still stand by my kanye comments but im a damn fool for downplaying the rza. sometimes i just say shit in the heat of the moment. except i was def still right about him being a cokehead
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Back on topic: Van Wastell is probably closer to 2pac than Dylan. Both Pac and Van have an oddly high amount of content released after their deaths (there was Van footage in L.S.D wtf). Both also have a high fanbase of people who only know them as dead legends.
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It was written was better than illmatic.
Rza was a spaceman, wethead, that's why his style was crazy. Callin him a cokehead like that's a diss or somethin for producing music?
I don't get u guys.
I keep hearing better productions every year too.
So, basically fuck all of you.
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It was written was better than illmatic.
Rza was a spaceman, wethead, that's why his style was crazy. Callin him a cokehead like that's a diss or somethin for producing music?
I don't get u guys.
I keep hearing better productions every year too.
So, basically fuck all of you.
hahaha I ALREADY TOOK BACK WHAT I SAID ABOUT RZA! BUT me calling someone a cokehead is def diss i guess and the rza is def one. cokeheads are fucking annoying, idk what slaps stance on coke is but its corny to me and ill take all the hate for saying that. the RZA is amazing and what i said about his production was foolish and dumb, the dude is a genius. i was just trying to defend kanyes talent and i got carried away.
you can be a genius and great at what you do and be a cokehead jerkoff at the same time (eg marvin gaye).
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slap's official stance is that we would do coke w/ fred gall
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leticia bufoni is nicki minaj
leticia consolidated is angie martinez
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Oh shit I forgot about this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY5g2fb2En0
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I agree for doom altough it makes his sound unique. Kanye is talented but overrated and a gigantic douchebag.
He also never ever produce anything remotely as groundbreaking and unique as RZA 36chambers.
rza would never ever produce anything remotely as groundbreaking and unique as the college dropout
this is such a bad comparison, yeah 36 chambers has great production, it's a groundbreaking album and shit, but it's an album from 1993 and hip-hop was way different then than it was in fucking 2004 and later. also, all in all kanye's a better producer than rza, even though rza is good too (btw one of his best beats (dark fantasy) went to kanye).
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THE MCCLUNG BROTHERS = MAC MILLER, POST MALONE, & MACKLEMORE
Who are these people
i think that's the point
Mac is legit and don’t deserve hate , dude pulled jay electronica out of hiding , and he fucked Ariana grande.
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Rza the muthafuckin GOAT. Change your screen name and avi and go listen to Cuban Linx
niggo go listen to bobby digital,
ok ok ok i mighta went harsh on the rza, hes def a legend in the game and i was talking wayy too spicy lol but idk he made ALOT of trash music too (digital bullet/bobby digital). as for my name and avi i made that shit back in the day when i used to bang wu harder then a white college dude, i still fux with them (they are legends/GOATS/da best/ whatever whatever) but idk the rza a coke head fool and you fucking know it. he got more talent in his pinky then my whole entire body but under that pinky nail is a bump of coke and that shit def be fucking up his music sometimes (eg. albums i listed above)
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nvm i take back what i said about RZA, im dumb and played myself. i still stand by my kanye comments but im a damn fool for downplaying the rza. sometimes i just say shit in the heat of the moment. except i was def still right about him being a cokehead
Lol. Now if you had gone at his flow and delivery you would’ve got no argument from me. But Rza beats are legendary and the Wu was basically his vision.