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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: maggotspawn on July 29, 2018, 09:56:48 AM
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I got a message on Facebook from Rockin Ron. I had asked if he was still making bearings a while ago.
Apparently he's back in business. No ceramics in stock yet, but he has the Rockets for sale.
I had some about 5 years ago, they're fast.
http://www.rocketsskateboardbearings.com
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(http://www.rocketsskateboardbearings.com/RocknRon_NSDeck_small.JPG)
if I get a set, will I be able to do this?
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FINALLY!
I love how his website has a link on the bottom to his website.
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Ceramics in stock now too, $85.00
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They are well worth the money. Easily on par with Bones Swiss. Just try to ignore the stink bugging longboarder/ Kurt Cobain impersonator (yes, he's in a Nirvana tribute band) aspect to his lifestyle and treat yourself.
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I'll be honest, I'm not dropping $85 on bearings anytime soon. I do like trying new products and giving companies like Ron's my business. With that being said, are these really better than what ever mid-level bearings I'm rolling right now(super reds)?
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I prefer the 20 something dollar ones over swiss, so much so that I am willing to try the ceramics.
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i think they are crap, lots of hype, not as good as proven bones reds
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$22 for bearings that are easily as good as Bones Swiss.
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$22 for bearings that are easily as good as Bones Swiss.
I once got his cheapest bearings (Rockets?). They were faster than Bones Swiss out of the box but seized up (due to my own neglect) as quickly as generic bearings. I realize that there are too many variables to accurately compare bearing longevity, but some are clearly shit (Lucky) and others are clearly better (Swiss).
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I get a least a year out of mine. Sometimes clean them sometimes don't. Ron's a weirdo but he knows what he's doing.
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a great example of buying cheap chinese bearings and then selling them as snake oil.
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Except they're made in Thailand.
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Not striclty true. The shields might be. He is an actual bearing engineer who knows what he's doing.I believe George Powell even took some ideas from him. Anyway, I'm not here to defend the dude this much. I just like Swiss quality bearings for $22. Bones 6Ball when I'm feeling flush.
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If everyone is always comparing their bearings to Bones Swiss, then you know they are on top of the mountain. It's not like Bones has ever had to say, our's are just as good as Bronson/Andale/HL if not better.
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They are re-packaged NMBs. They've always been one of the better bearing manufacturers and far better than generic Chinese bearings. I've seen some NMBs sold on eBay or sketchy online stores, but I don't think anyone else imports them (and haven't seen them in stores for 20 years). Back in the day, German (GMN) bearings were between NMB and Bones on the hierarchy, but I haven't seen those for a long time either. I think Z (Z-roller) bought exclusive distribution rights to GMN during the late 80s and sold a version soaked in motor oil.
Just the same, you're better off sticking with Bones if you can afford them.
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This is probably close to a 20 year old post from
ron, but he gives a breakdown on skate bearings. The big takeaway is that the skateboard industry uses the same few bearing manufacturers and they're mostly crap with cool branding. I think most of us know that by now though
We here's what I've learned. I am a bearing engineer of almost 20 years dealing with miniature bearings for skate, aircraft, aerospace, and NASA applications dealing with all aspects of design, and ABEC specification. More recently my nephew and I started our own High Tech Bearing Company six months ago, Ok enough bullshit. The ABEC is the allowable tolerance. The ABEC 1 tolerance for the bore of a 608 bearing is .3150" +.0000 / -.0003".==== that means the Bore could be anywhere from .3147-.3150" (8MM). ==== ABEC 7 is .3150 +.0000 / -.0002. (.3148-.3150) What does all this mean??? The Abec tolerance is all but INSIGNIFICANT in a skate application. Skateboard Truck Axels are not manufactured to the same tight tolerances as the Bearing. And the O.D. of the Bearing goes in a flexible urathane wheel. This eliminates any possible advantage of the Abec tolerance would give to assure accurate fit. The Abec is the DIMENTIONAL TOLERANCES. The Abec tolerance does cover out of roundness and for this reason I would use ABEC 3 or better. Almost any bearing with the country of origin on the bearing except for china will be Abec 3 or better. Back in the 80's they had to sort bearing lots to get the Abec 3 and Abec 7 Bearings. Todays modern machines make to Abec 3 or better even if they are marketed as abec 1. They will have an Abec 3 price and a Abec 1 price to give you a choise, but it will be the same Abec 3 bearing. ANY BEARINGS FROM CHINA WILL NOT BE BETTER THAN ABEC 1. China will put "ABEC 7" or "FUCK YOU" on the bearing if you order 5000 or more!! No laws in China against that. You cant mis-mark the bearings in the other bearing manufacturing Countries. Bearings with a Metal Ball Cage have a 40,000 RPM Rating. Plastic Cage = 100,000-150,000 RPM.
WHAT IS IMPORTANT. 1) The Manufacturer. All Chinese bearings are crap. All those weird name brands are shit. Top of the Line bearing manufactuers make 608's with the proper Raceway Curvature, cages and internal clearances. WIB, GMN, GRW and NMB manufacture the best bearings in the world for skateboard. For those of you not fimiliar with these names, WIB makes all the bearings for "Bones" All Bones bearings marked "Swiss" are manufacturered by WIB Miniature Bearing in Switzerland for Bones. GMN and GRW make all the German Bearings no matter what name may be marketet on the shield. Plastic or non-metalic ball cage will make more way more difference in speed than any ABEC change.
OPTIMAL BEARING: I have used everything in the world, Ceramics manufactured just for my SkateBoard, Abec 9, Bearings Manufacturered by every bearing company in the world. I have access to over 400 Lubricants in my field.
WHAT DO I SKATE ON ???
The best bearing by design right now is the Super Swiss 6 by Bones with SpeedCream. The Bearing had several advantages. 1) It is manufactured by WIB Bearing. 2) They are made with a tight Raceway curvature to avoid "Excess Axial Play" 3) They are supplied with a Re-enforced plastic cage rated at 150,000 RPM 4)Laberinth Non-Contacting Rubber Seals to keep out dirt. This is the obtimum design for free rotation and keeping out contamination.
Ceramic Ball Bearings are only good if they come with Plastic or Phenolic Ball Cages. As a Hardcore skater skating 4-5 days a week. Super Swiss 6 with Speed cream cant be beat. Fuc* the Abec rating. The Abec rating is designed so that the bearing has manufacturing consistancy in order to manufacture mating parts to simular tolerances. (Re: Precision Shafting and Housings.)
Ron
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... one more note on why the Super swiss 6 has lower starting and running torque (This is Known as Speed to us skateboarders)
All 608's are made with 7 ball compliment. The Super Swiss 6 is the ONLY 608 manufactured with a 6 ball compliment. The Balls all bigger, can take higher load (Impact), Have less ball surphase touching the raceway with 6 balls instead of 7 which lowers the running torque of the bearing making the bearing get to full speed quicker. I am sure within the next year you will start seeing more 6 ball designs, but right now its WIB(Bones) that makes 'em...At all possible, stick with German or Swiss with Plastic or non-metalic ball cages. Any bearing with a steel cage will be slower no matter where it's made. Grease is just an oil with a thickener, the thickener in the grease will slow down your bearing and running just oil will attract contaminates from far away and not provide proper protection. Use the Good-old Speed Cream in the skate shops. By buying German or Swiss what is important is you will know the bearing is manufactuered by a very high quality bearing manufacturer who does the final raceway polishing what the chinese dont, and who it is. There are so many names and marketing stratagies going on with Chinese Bearings, you will get lost in it all. At my old Company we brought in Chinese Bearings for .12 Each. We had the Stamping machines to Mark the Shields. We did PIG,GIRL,SPEED DEMONS, and several others. All were from the same manufacturing lot with different color/marked shields. Any of those weird brands are probably a .12-.18 cent bearing made by the millions with no quality control and several key manufacturing processes left out in order to sell the U.S. for .12 cents.
Bearings marked "Thailand" = NMB
Bearings marked "German" = GMN or GRW
Bearings marked "Swiss" = WIB Bearing
Someone mentioned to me SKF Bearings. SKF Bearings are manufactured in almost every country in the world. SKF no longer manufacturers miniature bearings and hasen't for over 10 years, SKF Contracts out their miniature bearings to the Miniature Bearing Manufactuers. Last year it was IKS and NTN. Could be someone different next year. SKF Specialises in Large Bearings. Don't use SKF....
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Yes, the Bones-Chinese[Reds] are in the same class as the other Chinese Bearings. Bones China are may be a little better than the other China or unmarked brands as far as consitancy since they probably been using the same China trading Company for years, but still is a .12-.14 cent bearing.
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On your third question the smaller balls tend to brinell the bearing races easier than the larger ball will. A brinelled race will have little indends from the balls impact, basically destroying the bearing. Thicker races will make the bearing a little stronger from the standpoint of cracking the races, but that should be a rarity. But Brinelling the bearing is more common than cracking races..Should be...
As far as Bearing failure, Brinneling is one reason, Lack of proper lubrication is #1 cause for bearing failure because once you run metal on metal and balls and raceways get scored, everything will wear and fail quickly.
As far as Oust Bearings...Its another Marketing Stategy. Look, it comes down to everything I said in these bearing post as far as the bearings configuration. Notice the low end Oust MOC5 is "Carbon Steel Cage" with standard non-contacting rubber seals. Their Rolls royce is the MOC9. Here is their desciption of the Seal "The Moc 9 Buna Non-Contact Seal is set into a U-channel design in the inner and outer races to keep all foreign particles out of the ball area. It also stops any oil leakage that might occur on a standard bearing seal." THIS IS THE LABYRINTH INNER RING and seal weve been discussing that the Bones-Swiss, Black Hole Bearings have. The MOC9 also comes with a non-metalic cage....thats what makes it quicker than the MOC5. No matter what brand you like, 1) get bearings with a non-metalic cage 2) Buy the bearings with the Labyring inner ring and seal design,no matter what they may call it. Your bearings will outlast a dozen sets of the old style shielded bearings.
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The Swiss and German manufacturers make their 608 with a tighter raceway curvature as well (harder to mfr.) than the Chinese. This eliminates a lot of excess axial play(end play)in the bearing.
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....As far as installing, VERY good question indeed. You can ruin a bearing installing it before it turns even once on your axel. The Rule is "Only apply preasure to the ring being mounted." To put the bearing in your wheel, some people put the bearing on the axel, unside down and press the wheel on the bearing. BAD ! The pressure against the balls can brinnell the raceway if hit with too much force. Since the Outer Ring is being mounted in the Wheel you need to apply preasure to the outer ring only! Not the inner ring. I use an Old bearing that I disassembled and have the outer ring only, put it against the outer ring of the bearing being mounted, and a small block of wood and rubber mallet. As far as removing them, another good reason not to re-use the bearings. The same rule applied to dis-assembly if the bearing is to be salvaged. However, there is no way of removing the bearing using the outer ring. Even the bearing pullers must remove the bearing by pulling on the inner ring. Brinelling will not happen everytime you mis-mount the bearings, but the degree of damage can be so slight, you may not notice. Yes, I use a bearing puller when removing bearings, however, bearing pullers were desighed for alot bigger, more durable bearings. Using a Bearing Puller on a Miniature can and will cause at least microscopic damage almost every time. Remember: Only apply pressure to the ring being mounted. Alot of people ruin their bearings before they even start!!!
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I ordered the “rockets” Sunday. It is now Friday and I haven’t received any confirmation of my order being received or shipped. I tried emailing his PayPal listed email, nothing. I can see the order went through in my PayPal account, so I’m thinking of opening a dispute.
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I ordered the “rockets” Sunday. It is now Friday and I haven’t received any confirmation of my order being received or shipped. I tried emailing his PayPal listed email, nothing. I can see the order went through in my PayPal account, so I’m thinking of opening a dispute.
I never got a confirmation either - but I have ordered from him 3 times and always received the product - it does take 7 - 10 business days
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Yeah, he's sometimes slow but you will get your bearings.
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What the fuck did I just walk in to?
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idk but if you've ever applied pressure to the inner race of a bearing you're going straight to jail
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if you've ever applied pressure to the inner race of a bearing
BAD !
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rockin' ron will not rest til every inner race pressure applicant is incarcerated or preferably dead
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I got a shipment notification today from PayPal and an email from him saying they’re shipping today. A week and one day after I ordered. I asked him why it took so long to ship and why he’s just getting back to me and he stopped replying. Not happy with the customer service. Should have just stuck with Bones Reds from my local.
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Come on man, Ron was obviously busy rockin.
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You had to wait one week+... if you're that desperate go to your local skate shop, buy some Swiss and support the local scene...
The bearings are worth the wait.
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You had to wait one week+... if you're that desperate go to your local skate shop, buy some Swiss and support the local scene...
The bearings are worth the wait.
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Come on man, Ron was obviously busy rockin.
Rockin with priorities higher than “priority” priced shipping.
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You had to wait one week+... if you're that desperate go to your local skate shop, buy some Swiss and support the local scene...
The bearings are worth the wait.
i think the main complaint is the lack of updates which is pretty damn standard for ordering online now a days.. pretty shitty way to do business
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His horrible customer service goes even further when he claimed my bearings shipped Monday but he just shipped them today. This guy is a joke.
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Bitch, you have like 6 unskated set ups, I’m sure you can roll around on one of them while you wait a week for your bearings.
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they’re out of stock again. damn. how often does he make them?
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He doesn’t make them he buys them from china and prints a piece of paper to put in the packaging.
You think this stinkbugging long boarder makes his own bearings and can somehow sell them for a third of the price of the top shelf HE compares them to?
He’s a snake oil salesman.
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Do you guys think Rockin Ron is married?
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to a case of high grade stainless steel labyrinth sealed bearings maybe
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The regular generic wives just aren't fast enough for him. He's got access to over 400 lubricants in his field.
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I looked up ol' Rockin Ron's Nirvana tribute band and found their website. They're called "Nearvana" and they claim to be the longest running Nirvana tribute band in the U.S. and "NEARVANA is the only Nirvana Experience to have the blessings from the three surviving members of the band - Dave Grohl, Krist Novoselic, and Pat Smear." Which I find hard to believe.
Here's their website: http://www.nirvanatribute.band/
And here's Ron coming as he is while ignoring Diocletian's order and emails:
(http://www.nirvanatribute.band/images/20915604_1785235661501450_3090137241832880010_n.jpg)
There's also a "promo" section where you can download Nearvana's stage plot in PDF format, which I find should be mandatory for any band's website if they want to be taken seriously.
(https://i.imgur.com/rXCBeMV.png)
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also they're the only nirvana tribute band with long lasting labyrinth seals to keep dust and dirt out
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Come on man, Ron was obviously busy rockin.
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Bitch, you have like 6 unskated set ups, I’m sure you can roll around on one of them while you wait a week for your bearings.
made me giggle
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Hey guys just wanted to let you know Ron also is the Izzy Stradlin in a Guns N Roses tribute band called Lose Your Illusion, so if it's taking awhile to ship your ceramic rockets give him a break. He's a busy guy!
(https://scontent.fyxe1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30743446_1922422181122560_1036754362097220400_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent.fyxe1-1.fna&oh=e9787ba8e4bf4612aff55c6743fb1c4b&oe=5C6A8AFF)
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can you even imagine how good those fuckin knobs on his guitar turn after retrofitting with some high grade labyrinth seal ball bearings
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can you even imagine how good those fuckin knobs on his guitar turn after retrofitting with some high grade labyrinth seal ball bearings
hahah I lol'ed at this, thank you
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I wish I would have known more about Ron and his questionable life choices before I bought his bearings >:(
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Kurt Cobain blew his brain out because of this guy.
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One thing about living in Southern California I never could stomach. All the damn tribute bands.
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Always hated Tribute bands it's just an excuse to play your fav bands music who you dreamed of becoming. So transparent using technicalities to make what you are doing appear more legit and more yours. First thing you discover when starting your own band is it's fun and easy to play your fav bands songs cause it's laid out for you. It's hard boring sometimes and straight up tiring to try and write your own music. Easier to just play and practice the songs you can hear and emulate. So Corny and lame to expect money for it though and try to sugar coat it as a "tribute" like you actually chose to be skilled in playing someone else's songs. Naw the reality is it's all your shitty band could muster and you wanna play live shows without grinding through making your own tunes. Imagine a "titanic" tribute movie where I pretend to be leo and act 80 percent as good with 50 percent the production value of the real thing.
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honestly an 80% leo performance on $100MM would probably be better than most movies coming out now
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Hey take it easy man. Tribute bands are performing a service. Social Distortion doesn't play that often anymore and if I can go see Rockin Ron's tribute band SoCal Distortion easily and for a fraction of the price, than how's that affecting you negatively in any way?
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Hey take it easy man. Tribute bands are performing a service. Social Distortion doesn't play that often anymore and if I can go see Rockin Ron's tribute band SoCal Distortion easily and for a fraction of the price, than how's that affecting you negatively in any way?
(https://scontent.fyyc3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46523639_317615315491316_1837219574223732736_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ht=scontent.fyyc3-1.fna&oh=7fd667226cb3ba912a57da05e5388cda&oe=5CB024BF)
(https://scontent.fyyc3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46487975_2228363090528466_7300523837089644544_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ht=scontent.fyyc3-1.fna&oh=aa8d10163c707b3b1a5e4903976d4f25&oe=5C6B9839)
You service rons delusion by buying those tickets and listening to that band with your ears. It's not a fair exhange of goods or services for you in any way. How many freaking Tribute bands does this guy have? Everyone on his iPod he tributes?
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I wonder how Rockin Ron would feel if we resold his bearings with different packaging and called them tribute bearings.
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I wonder how Rockin Ron would feel if we resold his bearings with different packaging and called them tribute bearings.
That's his exact business model already just rebranded precision bearings. A tribute would be to sell the wrong size that can't actually be skated but used in heelys. Then we call them "Jockin jon's bearings a rockin Ron bearing tribute experience" They are a tribute to skate bearings we can heely around on stage while his band plays. If it's the nirvana tribute though we heely in the pit like real men.
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He doesn’t make them he buys them from china and prints a piece of paper to put in the packaging.
You think this stinkbugging long boarder makes his own bearings and can somehow sell them for a third of the price of the top shelf HE compares them to?
He’s a snake oil salesman.
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He doesn’t make them he buys them from china and prints a piece of paper to put in the packaging.
You think this stinkbugging long boarder makes his own bearings and can somehow sell them for a third of the price of the top shelf HE compares them to?
He’s a snake oil salesman.
This is every skateboard bearing
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One thing about living in Southern California I never could stomach. All the damn tribute bands.
I lol'd
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if all he does is print paper, why does he suck so bad at having stock and filling orders? he’s clever enough to pull a fast one but sounds too dysfunctional to make a lot of money from it.
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if all he does is print paper, why does he suck so bad at having stock and filling orders? he’s clever enough to pull a fast one but sounds too dysfunctional to make a lot of money from it.
Maybe he keeps the supply low to generate high demand
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Don't lie to the people Social Distortion was on tour this summer I saw them with my dad it was pretty sweet
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Don't lie to the people Social Distortion was on tour this summer I saw them with my dad it was pretty sweet
How can you be certain it wasn't rockin rons SoCal distortion instead? Were you fully aware did you carefully read the signs? They are pretty good you know basically the real thing you probably wouldn't know it unless you happened to notice some guys on heelys in the pit.
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Don't lie to the people Social Distortion was on tour this summer I saw them with my dad it was pretty sweet
Trump supporting heckler caught Mike Ness' fade.
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(https://i.imgur.com/yonOP7q.png)
So rockn ron had a full line of products? Where are they? OP get him back on the line, I want to see the turnaround for the Ballistech Missile Christmas complete so I can have it under the tree.
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I wouldn’t know the difference between a Social Distortion tribute band and the real band, and I’ve seen the real band live
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tdg-hWPXd1U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tdg-hWPXd1U)
Looked for reviews on these, found this instead. This is insane. Rock'n Ron tucks his bearings in at night and reads them a story.
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Always hated Tribute bands it's just an excuse to play your fav bands music who you dreamed of becoming. So transparent using technicalities to make what you are doing appear more legit and more yours. First thing you discover when starting your own band is it's fun and easy to play your fav bands songs cause it's laid out for you. It's hard boring sometimes and straight up tiring to try and write your own music. Easier to just play and practice the songs you can hear and emulate. So Corny and lame to expect money for it though and try to sugar coat it as a "tribute" like you actually chose to be skilled in playing someone else's songs. Naw the reality is it's all your shitty band could muster and you wanna play live shows without grinding through making your own tunes. Imagine a "titanic" tribute movie where I pretend to be leo and act 80 percent as good with 50 percent the production value of the real thing.
I mean, I get where you're coming from, but JRAD is light years better than the Grateful Dead ever was, so it seems like you're wrong.
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Always hated Tribute bands it's just an excuse to play your fav bands music who you dreamed of becoming. So transparent using technicalities to make what you are doing appear more legit and more yours. First thing you discover when starting your own band is it's fun and easy to play your fav bands songs cause it's laid out for you. It's hard boring sometimes and straight up tiring to try and write your own music. Easier to just play and practice the songs you can hear and emulate. So Corny and lame to expect money for it though and try to sugar coat it as a "tribute" like you actually chose to be skilled in playing someone else's songs. Naw the reality is it's all your shitty band could muster and you wanna play live shows without grinding through making your own tunes. Imagine a "titanic" tribute movie where I pretend to be leo and act 80 percent as good with 50 percent the production value of the real thing.
I mean, I get where you're coming from, but JRAD is light years better than the Grateful Dead ever was, so it seems like you're wrong.
Performance wise? I dunno grateful dead hasn't been a full lineup since 1995, has kind of always sucked ass live, and hasn't consistently been one band making one kind of music so how could you compare? they also don't have worry about being a quartet and then morphing into a six man band. No disrespect though to them they are amazing and I am a big fan of Ween too. All's I can say though is just performing a song can never be light years ahead of both writing and performing that song to me. In closing, the grateful dead would be my choice for one of the most overrated bands and they don't count. Also we need to verify JRAD is on hallucinogens when performing.
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Always hated Tribute bands it's just an excuse to play your fav bands music who you dreamed of becoming. So transparent using technicalities to make what you are doing appear more legit and more yours. First thing you discover when starting your own band is it's fun and easy to play your fav bands songs cause it's laid out for you. It's hard boring sometimes and straight up tiring to try and write your own music. Easier to just play and practice the songs you can hear and emulate. So Corny and lame to expect money for it though and try to sugar coat it as a "tribute" like you actually chose to be skilled in playing someone else's songs. Naw the reality is it's all your shitty band could muster and you wanna play live shows without grinding through making your own tunes. Imagine a "titanic" tribute movie where I pretend to be leo and act 80 percent as good with 50 percent the production value of the real thing.
I mean, I get where you're coming from, but JRAD is light years better than the Grateful Dead ever was, so it seems like you're wrong.
First of all, thanks for the Ween shout out. So many "Dead to the core" kids want to love JRAD and shit on Ween without understanding the connection.
I loved the Dead right up until I heard JGB, and then I forgot all about them. Well, not forgot, but you understand.
The Dead were trash well before 95. That band died with Brent, and he was all that revived them in the first place. Then they died again when Brent passed, because that's what truly killed Jerry, and everyone knows it. My point is that JRAD is the only act out who's made Dead tunes worth listening to since Jerry passed. I've seen hundreds of Dead cover bands across the country, and JRAD is the only group who's gotten me truly excited to hear Dead tunes. They're a tribute band who plays originals better than the band that wrote them.
I get where you're coming from, but what about All Along the Watchtower? I'm not even a big Hendrix fan, but he took that song far beyond what Dylan could have ever dreamed.
EDIT: And for the record, most of the Dead stopped intentionally playing spun before they ever got big. I'd wager that members of JRAD have intentionally played higher than the Dead knowing the audience they were drawing, but that's pure speculation. Fuck, Oteil has intentionally played higher with Dead Horse and Slow, so surely Marco, Dave, and Russo have (or so I'd guess)
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Yea but take away all along the watchtower cover and Jimi Hendrix is a phenomenal songwriter and groundbreaking guitarist with plenty more to stand on that's like a rock on top of a mountain of music. Rockin Ron ain't got the fingers nor the balls to be waking up Woodstock with the national anthem. A tribute band is themed like a parody of a band and parasitic, they are nothing without the original host. If social distortion didn't exist and write their songs nobody would give a fuck about SoCal distortion and they would have nothing to copy, then you add dressing like them and the bass drum skin and the Strat for nirvana but black Les Paul for Social dist. Those kinds of tributes it's playing dress up. I've realised as well with JRAD you have a bunch of really successful and accomplished musicians in their own right coming together but they are much greater than just these covers. But also even the style of music and songwriting from all those individual guys it totally makes sense for them to pull off an amazing grateful dead tribute. I agree with you though lots of examples of songs done way better as covers but I still give ultimate props to the writer cause writing music is really really really fucking hard. Covering it is like doing a paint by numbers in a sense, coming up with it is painting free hand from your brain.
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He makes missiles and rockets? What can't he do
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Hey guys I made you a thread in the Music section to discuss the merits (or lack thereof) of tribute bands. http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=102580.0
From now on the only tribute bands that will be spoken of in this thread will be Nearvana, Lose Your Illusion, and SoCal Distortion. Please respect Rockin Ron and his labyrinth rocket bearings.
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Hey guys I made you a thread in the Music section to discuss the merits (or lack thereof) of tribute bands. http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=102580.0
From now on the only tribute bands that will be spoken of in this thread will be Nearvana, Lose Your Illusion, and SoCal Distortion. Please respect Rockin Ron and his labyrinth rocket bearings.
Okay, how about this. Should Ron form a Dead tribute band, what would he name it, and would he be Jerry or Bobby (I'm assuming he plays guitar and don't feel like going back to check).
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Hey guys I made you a thread in the Music section to discuss the merits (or lack thereof) of tribute bands. http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=102580.0
From now on the only tribute bands that will be spoken of in this thread will be Nearvana, Lose Your Illusion, and SoCal Distortion. Please respect Rockin Ron and his labyrinth rocket bearings.
Okay, how about this. Should Ron form a Dead tribute band, what would he name it, and would he be Jerry or Bobby (I'm assuming he plays guitar and don't feel like going back to check).
Yes. Rockin’ Ron should start a dead tribute band. Band name: Shakedown Street—it ties in with his business model.
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If he did they would be the only Greatful Dead experience to have the blessings from the surviving members of the band and their stage plot would look like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/Uhd7Q8Y.png)
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If he did they would be the only Greatful Dead experience to have the blessings from the surviving members of the band and their stage plot would look like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/Uhd7Q8Y.png)
I support any of Ron’s cover bands but he needs to tighten up his diagram. Are all his amps and shit Bluetooth or is he assuming we all know how to set up a stage properly. Where are the wires in the list?? Things fans want to know.
Dream diagram, I wanna see how he likes backstage setup.
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Ron is back selling bearings, the rona probably got his day job. Bought a set.
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Ron is back selling bearings, the rona probably got his day job. Bought a set.
Good shit, grabbed me a set too. Been wanting to try these for a while.
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Lmao this thread is hilarious my mans is really in a nirvana cover band?
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Ron is back selling bearings, the rona probably got his day job. Bought a set.
Where from?
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Ron is back selling bearings, the rona probably got his day job. Bought a set.
Not allowed to fill venues to capacity with the only Nirvana experience to have the blessings of the surviving members anymore. Hope Ron is still rockin at home.
How did you find out he's selling again? Please tell me this god has an instagram account.
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They’re just repackaged NMB bearings, nothing to get excited over. I bought into the hype and ended up just selling them to someone.
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Sorry to bump this thread but I am surprised Ron hasn't made a tribute of these guys. Style wise they seem like exactly what imagine Ron bumps in his car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKYWVR1oJ5g
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Hell yeah Rockin' Ron made it on Catatonic Youth's instagram stories!
(https://i.imgur.com/bPOsocP.png)
Hope you're still rockin out there with long lasting labyrinth seals to keep dust and dirt out and ripping it up with Nearvana, Lose Your Illusion, and SoCal Distortion! Keep on rockin in the free world Rockin' Ron!