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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: itchysutnack on August 06, 2018, 07:44:42 AM
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if its backside, its an overcrook.. if its frontside, its a nosegrind. Fucks the difference?
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I can’t wait for all of us to work together and come to an agreement :)
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I hereby claim that it shall, from now until forever, be considered a fs overcrook.
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its a fakie flip
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Define Ø.
Question needs more information.
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if its backside, its a May grind
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Def fs overkrook
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ist always overcrooks, if ist bs or fs, old People just call it nosegrind just because
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there's a saved story on mark suciu's insta that answers all questions about this
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apply the suski/5-0/salad logic
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apply the suski/5-0/salad logic
What ever happened to the salad grind. No one does them anymore..
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ist always overcrooks, if ist bs or fs, old People just call it nosegrind just because
I'm old.
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You start with the object Fronstide, then pop OVER to a CROOKED GRIND position. There's a meridian running through the middle of the object that determines Frontside or Backside. If you pop over that meridian into a K-Grind position, that's an Overcrook. If you lock into either grind proper, it's irrefutably evident which grind you are in. A Nosegrind position should never be a Crooked Grind position, even if you're scraping. Same way a 5-0 will never be a Salad.
I think the logic I heard on The Bunt was that a round rail can't be divided or some shit? The fucking EARTH is round. We decided a long time ago there's lines all over that shit. Most important of which are the Prime Meridian and the Equator, who respectively cut the bitch in half.
In sum, if you think a FS Overcrook is a FS Nosegrind, you're a fucking Flat Earther.
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apply the suski/5-0/salad logic
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Nobody would ever accept a FS Suski. It would just be called a 5-0.
Its a nosegrind. It was always nosegrind. The term "overcrook" came out in THPS 1. But it was only nosegrind every day of life until the game dropped.
Frontside and backside
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apply the suski/5-0/salad logic
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Nobody would ever accept a FS Suski. It would just be called a 5-0.
Its a nosegrind. It was always nosegrind. The term "overcrook" came out in THPS 1. But it was only nosegrind every day of life until the game dropped.
Frontside and backside
Then the game changed the game. There's a difference now, and Overcrook has been accepted into the dictionary. Hope you're sitting down when you hear about this whole 'gender' thing happening right now.
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frontside indy
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apply the suski/5-0/salad logic
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Nobody would ever accept a FS Suski. It would just be called a 5-0.
Its a nosegrind. It was always nosegrind. The term "overcrook" came out in THPS 1. But it was only nosegrind every day of life until the game dropped.
Frontside and backside
Then the game changed the game. There's a difference now, and Overcrook has been accepted into the dictionary. Hope you're sitting down when you hear about this whole 'gender' thing happening right now.
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/2010+Maloof+Money+Cup+BIqvYVWiBfRx.jpg
So you call these suski's?!?!
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You start with the object Fronstide, then pop OVER to a CROOKED GRIND position. There's a meridian running through the middle of the object that determines Frontside or Backside. If you pop over that meridian into a K-Grind position, that's an Overcrook. If you lock into either grind proper, it's irrefutably evident which grind you are in. A Nosegrind position should never be a Crooked Grind position, even if you're scraping. Same way a 5-0 will never be a Salad.
I think the logic I heard on The Bunt was that a round rail can't be divided or some shit? The fucking EARTH is round. We decided a long time ago there's lines all over that shit. Most important of which are the Prime Meridian and the Equator, who respectively cut the bitch in half.
In sum, if you think a FS Overcrook is a FS Nosegrind, you're a fucking Flat Earther.
Educate yourself.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/I2vKd6FbXd8/maxresdefault.jpg)
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Bs 180 nosegrinds. No matter how you get in, pinched, on top, 180 out all the way around, you always call it nosegrind. You dont say susiki or crook. or overcrook or salad. you always call it nosegrind. because its only a nosegrind. ledge or rail. frontside and backside.
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Bankride*
I rarely take this approach to things, but I’m just gonna Jordan Peterson this shit, you can’t make make me say “fs overcrook”, I won’t do it.
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https://youtu.be/LaQzFVOBgPs
1:18 frontside Suski????? or just a 5-0
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FS overcrook doesnt exist. Its a FS nosegrind. BS nosegrinds dont exist (on rails). Its only BS overcrook and FS nosegrind (rails)
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http://techgeek.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Thps_comparison.jpg
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apply the suski/5-0/salad logic
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Nobody would ever accept a FS Suski. It would just be called a 5-0.
Its a nosegrind. It was always nosegrind. The term "overcrook" came out in THPS 1. But it was only nosegrind every day of life until the game dropped.
Frontside and backside
By this logic, we would still have to use the term "my dick"
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if its backside, its a MayGERSH grind
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if its backside, its a MayGERSH grind
mah man
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I always thought calling it a nosegrind on a handrail felt weird. Yes I grew up on THPS and started around the time it came out. I always thought of nosegrind as balancing and can only think of one instance of that taking place down a handrail (21:34 here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAeZZmBVHXc
When I see skaters getting a "pinch" in it is more like an overcrook to me. For as much time as Malto spends on his front truck he rarely balances it. The opposite of this being Wenning or even CRob who absolutley know that a nosegrind is balanced.
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I always thought calling it a nosegrind on a handrail felt weird. Yes I grew up on THPS and started around the time it came out. I always thought of nosegrind as balancing and can only think of one instance of that taking place down a handrail (21:34 here)
When I see skaters getting a "pinch" in it is more like an overcrook to me. For as much time as Malto spends on his front truck he rarely balances it. The opposite of this being Wenning or even CRob who absolutley know that a nosegrind is balanced.
Gersh Grind is real term for "bs over crook" and regular crooks are pointer grinds.
This is a nosegrind.
https://youtu.be/-zxzBqvdjrg
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FS overcrook doesnt exist. Its a FS nosegrind. BS nosegrinds dont exist (on rails). Its only BS overcrook and FS nosegrind (rails)
www.youtu.be/hb0ttzlc2N4
3:07
I've done straight fs and bs nosegrinds down rails before. Now I pinch/tweak them like an "overcrook". Same with 5-0's and salad grinds. I approach the rail like I do with fs blunts. I still call them nosegrinds though (fs or bs) even though to me, they're different tricks. David gravette's bs salad down el toro is different than Dane burman bs 5-0.
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FS overcrook doesnt exist. Its a FS nosegrind. BS nosegrinds dont exist (on rails). Its only BS overcrook and FS nosegrind (rails)
www.youtu.be/hb0ttzlc2N4
3:07
I've done straight fs and bs nosegrinds down rails before. Now I pinch/tweak them like an "overcrook". Same with 5-0's and salad grinds. I approach the rail like I do with fs blunts. I still call them nosegrinds though (fs or bs) even though to me, they're different tricks. David gravette's bs salad down el toro is different than Dane burman bs 5-0.
https://youtu.be/DlxiMf0c-MY
Gravette clearly does a 5-0.
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You're right, It's not as tweaked as I remember. But at the time people were calling that a salad. What would you call Matt Allen's ender? Do you think bs 5-0's, bs salad, and bs suski's are the same trick? Because by that logic, there's no such thing as crooked grinds. They're just tweaked nosegrinds.
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if its backside, its a MayGERSH grind
Fuck. Beat me to it. Gersh grind forever.
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You're right, It's not as tweaked as I remember. But at the time people were calling that a salad. What would you call Matt Allen's ender?
There are salad grinds just like there are crooked grinds. He salad'd the shit out of it. (matt Allen) Gravette didnt do a salad grind. at all. it was 100% backside 5-0. Dane wasted all that time in his zero part for a Gravette ABD. How embarrassing...
Imagine if some video game called a lipslide an overboard. Thats what overcrook sounds like to us who have some sense.
Overcrook again is just a THPS term. Doesnt mean its right. It actually means you are wrong.
Nosegrind.
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You're right, It's not as tweaked as I remember. But at the time people were calling that a salad. What would you call Matt Allen's ender?
There are salad grinds just like there are crooked grinds. He salad'd the shit out of it. (matt Allen) Gravette didnt do a salad grind. at all. it was 100% backside 5-0. Dane wasted all that time in his zero part for a Gravette ABD. How embarrassing...
Imagine if some video game called a lipslide an overboard. Thats what overcrook sounds like to us who have some sense.
Overcrook again is just a THPS term. Doesnt mean its right. It actually means you are wrong.
Nosegrind.
How am I wrong? I never said it was called an overcook. I said I call them nosegrinds. Fs or bs. I just said that to me they're different tricks. I approach the rail/set up my feet differently.
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You're right, It's not as tweaked as I remember. But at the time people were calling that a salad. What would you call Matt Allen's ender?
There are salad grinds just like there are crooked grinds. He salad'd the shit out of it. (matt Allen) Gravette didnt do a salad grind. at all. it was 100% backside 5-0. Dane wasted all that time in his zero part for a Gravette ABD. How embarrassing...
Imagine if some video game called a lipslide an overboard. Thats what overcrook sounds like to us who have some sense.
Overcrook again is just a THPS term. Doesnt mean its right. It actually means you are wrong.
Nosegrind.
How am I wrong? I never said it was called an overcook. I said I call them nosegrinds. Fs or bs. I just said that to me they're different tricks. I approach the rail/set up my feet differently.
I didnt mean YOU are wrong. I meant ONE is wrong if they got their trick vocabulary from THPS instead of actual skate terms.
You good my GG
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apply the suski/5-0/salad logic
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Nobody would ever accept a FS Suski. It would just be called a 5-0.
Its a nosegrind. It was always nosegrind. The term "overcrook" came out in THPS 1. But it was only nosegrind every day of life until the game dropped.
Frontside and backside
THPS didn't have overcrook, it just had nosegrind and crooked grind. You're thinking of THPS 2.
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FS overcrook doesnt exist. Its a FS nosegrind. BS nosegrinds dont exist (on rails). Its only BS overcrook and FS nosegrind (rails)
Logically, this literally does not make sense.
It's either one or the other. Either everything is a nosegrind and overcrooks dont exist, or overcrooks exist frontside and backside.
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if its backside, its a MayGERSH grind
Fuck. Beat me to it. Gersh grind forever.
but...Gersh called them May grinds :-[
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I always thought calling it a nosegrind on a handrail felt weird. Yes I grew up on THPS and started around the time it came out. I always thought of nosegrind as balancing and can only think of one instance of that taking place down a handrail (21:34 here)
When I see skaters getting a "pinch" in it is more like an overcrook to me. For as much time as Malto spends on his front truck he rarely balances it. The opposite of this being Wenning or even CRob who absolutley know that a nosegrind is balanced.
Gersh Grind is real term for "bs over crook" and regular crooks are pointer grinds.
This is a nosegrind.
https://youtu.be/-zxzBqvdjrg
damn that is a straight nosegrind on a round bar. crazy.
in the edit he says you should learn nose manuals then it shows him nosegrinding..
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if anyone can post a balanced nosegrind on a round rail i would consider calling it a overcrook
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Id call it an undercrook.....
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FS overcrook doesnt exist. Its a FS nosegrind. BS nosegrinds dont exist (on rails). Its only BS overcrook and FS nosegrind (rails)
Just have to respectfully disagree mang. Backside nosegrinds on rails exist for sure. If it's balanced and not a crooked grind and not an overcrooks, it's a nosegrind.
But that's just backside. There's no such thing as a frontside overcrook, just like there's no such thing as a frontside indy.
You can't "overcrook" if you're approaching a rail or anything else frontside. If you're not doing a frontside crooks, you're doing a frontside nosegrind.
Now, ollie over to f/s crook is another term for b/s overcrook. It's the same thing. But I think that's stupid. It's like calling a b/s noseblunt slide an "ollie over to f/s noseslide." That, by the way, is what Darkstar did once in a Paul Trep ad. He did a nollie b/s noseblunt on a rail and they claimed it was a nollie over to f/s nose, which I thought was pretty fucking absurd. Even if it's not buried like a nosebunt, and the board's flat, don't complicate issues.
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FS overcrook doesnt exist. Its a FS nosegrind. BS nosegrinds dont exist (on rails). Its only BS overcrook and FS nosegrind (rails)
www.youtu.be/hb0ttzlc2N4
3:07
I've done straight fs and bs nosegrinds down rails before. Now I pinch/tweak them like an "overcrook". Same with 5-0's and salad grinds. I approach the rail like I do with fs blunts. I still call them nosegrinds though (fs or bs) even though to me, they're different tricks. David gravette's bs salad down el toro is different than Dane burman bs 5-0.
https://youtu.be/DlxiMf0c-MY
Gravette clearly does a 5-0.
I had no idea that Gravette bs 5-0'd El Toro, what video is this from??
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Look at Mark Suciu's instagram, specifically the two saved posts under his bio. There you will find the answers you seek.
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FS overcrook doesnt exist. Its a FS nosegrind. BS nosegrinds dont exist (on rails). Its only BS overcrook and FS nosegrind (rails)
www.youtu.be/hb0ttzlc2N4
3:07
I've done straight fs and bs nosegrinds down rails before. Now I pinch/tweak them like an "overcrook". Same with 5-0's and salad grinds. I approach the rail like I do with fs blunts. I still call them nosegrinds though (fs or bs) even though to me, they're different tricks. David gravette's bs salad down el toro is different than Dane burman bs 5-0.
https://youtu.be/DlxiMf0c-MY
Gravette clearly does a 5-0.
His first creature part in Born Dead.
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Backside nosegrinds on rails exist for sure. If it's balanced and not a crooked grind and not an overcrooks, it's a nosegrind.
But that's just backside. There's no such thing as a frontside overcrook, just like there's no such thing as a frontside indy.
You can't "overcrook" if you're approaching a rail or anything else frontside. If you're not doing a frontside crooks, you're doing a frontside nosegrind.
Now, ollie over to f/s crook is another term for b/s overcrook. It's the same thing. But I think that's stupid. It's like calling a b/s noseblunt slide an "ollie over to f/s noseslide." That, by the way, is what Darkstar did once in a Paul Trep ad. He did a nollie b/s noseblunt on a rail and they claimed it was a nollie over to f/s nose, which I thought was pretty absurd. Even if it's not buried like a nosebunt, and the board's flat, don't complicate issues.
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if you can pop over backside and pinch a rail like you're doing a front crook that is 100% different than a nose grind and disrespectful as fuck to the people who can do it properly. If you're doing a nose grind 180 on a ledge for 00000.2seconds then that's a nose grind..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onYax3p7A3o
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Over crooks but what do I know , I'm just a brain surgeon.
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If its more difficult its a new trick. Thus overcrooks on rails only work backside. Opposite for salads Suski grind or bs salad is a missed bs tail.
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In sum, if you think a FS Overcrook is a FS Nosegrind, you're a fucking Flat Earther.
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It’s like what is the line between a big hill and a little mountain?
Shades of gray my negros.
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if you can pop over backside and pinch a rail like you're doing a front crook that is 100% different than a nose grind and disrespectful as fuck to the people who can do it properly. If you're doing a nose grind 180 on a ledge for 00000.2seconds then that's a nose grind..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onYax3p7A3o
if he does the opposite and approaches fs and pinches a crook on the other side is that not a fs overcrook? If a reg footer ollied over and crooked the outside edge of Clipper that would just be a nosegrind?
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Birsp9wnAHn/?taken-by=cjcollinsskate
Notice how his whole tail is hanging off the rail. His nose points more than 30 degrees to his left shoulder. You would never call this a front Suski. Ever. Its just a 5-0. same deal with nose grinds to overcrook. its just a 5-0 as it would just be a nosegrind. Crook is to salad as 5-0 is to nose grind. everything else was made up just for a video game. didnt apply to actual trick vocabulary.
A bs air is just a Bs air. its not a bs nosegrab with extra tweak points. its just a bs air. if you boardslide crooked, or do a 50-50 staggered or on your heels or if you are some sick lunatic, on your toes, its still just a 50-50.
Nosegrind. Frontside and backside.
Overcrook is the same as calling smiths "over feebles" just because some video game said so.
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That's a suski, cuz
If he dropped his nose he'd be in a smith. If you drop your nose on a 5-0, you're in a 50-50. These tricks aren't anything new.
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That's a suski, cuz
If he dropped his nose he'd be in a smith. If you drop your nose on a 5-0, you're in a 50-50. These tricks aren't anything new.
Its a 5-0 my G.
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That's a suski, cuz
If he dropped his nose he'd be in a smith. If you drop your nose on a 5-0, you're in a 50-50. These tricks aren't anything new.
That is most certainly a 5-0. And smith means rail on
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That's a suski, cuz
If he dropped his nose he'd be in a smith. If you drop your nose on a 5-0, you're in a 50-50. These tricks aren't anything new.
Wrongo.
Your first post as a slappal is an incorrect one, sir.
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It's an uncomfortable truth for CJ, but if a suski grind is a real thing (and it certainly is), i can't see how that isn't one.. a 5-0 is balanced and straight. that's offset like 30*
fuck me for wasting pal status on a god damn suski grind post
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you guys havent noticed that theres no logic in the way 90% of skateboarding tricks are named? theres no such thing as a fs overcrook. it doesnt make sense, just accept it
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Nosegrind = no pinch and no portion of the deck's nose touching (think nose manual while grinding); at least that's how it should be.
A straight on grind on the front truck, no pinch and with the nose touching is nothing other than sloppy (same goes for those tail/heel drag 5-0s).
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Nosegrind = no pinch and no portion of the deck's nose touching (think nose manual while grinding); at least that's how it should be.
A straight on grind on the front truck, no pinch and with the nose touching is nothing other than sloppy (same goes for those tail/heel drag 5-0s).
OK so nosegrinds on round rails don't exist then? Or...
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Nosegrind = no pinch and no portion of the deck's nose touching (think nose manual while grinding); at least that's how it should be.
A straight on grind on the front truck, no pinch and with the nose touching is nothing other than sloppy (same goes for those tail/heel drag 5-0s).
OK so nosegrinds on round rails don't exist then? Or...
Nose grinds were performed before round rails were even though of as an obstacle.
Nosepicks ------> nosegrinds
Like a 5-0, nose grinds are/were balance tricks, no nose (or in the case of a 5-0, the tail) touching; to your point about round rails, are you saying touching the rail is needed? It's certainly become acceptable (just like sloppy 5-0s) probably because A) rails are longer and this provides stability and B) it's easier to heel drag on 5-0sand/or put your nose down.
No touching NGs can be done, however.
http://theberrics.com/muckmouth-dan-peterka/ (http://theberrics.com/muckmouth-dan-peterka/)
“Actually, I was trying to cross over a double-sided curb or ledge via a nosegrind. And the only way that it was possible was through that method. Like a noseslide / noseblunt crossover. Me and Eric lived at the H-Street house during that same time period and we often skated together. He was there when it was birthed, and has claims to it as well.”
https://riders.co/en/skate/grinds/frontside-nosegrind
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/578/20861799939_8143d231cd_b.jpg)
(https://everskate.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/nosegrind-skateboard.jpg)
(https://cdn.dailyskatetube.com/wp-content/uploads/devon-bobalek-bs-nose-grind-raw.jpg)
(http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0909/as_skate_06_1536.jpg)
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Front overcrooks dont exist.
if he does the opposite and approaches fs and pinches a crook on the other side is that not a fs overcrook? If a reg footer ollied over and crooked the outside edge of Clipper that would just be a nosegrind?
In this scenario, since clipper is a ledge, if someone ollied over the ledge (frontside) to crooks on the other side as so,
(https://i.imgur.com/brvZ3nk.png)
it would be called an ollie over to bs crooks. Since darrel stanton ollied over clipper into a front blunt even though he approached backside.
(https://i.imgur.com/aDpEFqK.gif)
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Front overcrooks dont exist.
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if he does the opposite and approaches fs and pinches a crook on the other side is that not a fs overcrook? If a reg footer ollied over and crooked the outside edge of Clipper that would just be a nosegrind?
In this scenario, since clipper is a ledge, if someone ollied over the ledge (frontside) to crooks on the other side as so,
(https://i.imgur.com/brvZ3nk.png)
it would be called an ollie over to bs crooks. Since darrel stanton ollied over clipper into a front blunt even though he approached backside.
(https://i.imgur.com/aDpEFqK.gif)
or a fs overcrook. he approached fs and the over means he went opposite side to crook. nobody says backside crook. its crook and front crook. The DS clip is very smooth but I would not call that a true blunt...no lock in.
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Front overcrooks dont exist.
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if he does the opposite and approaches fs and pinches a crook on the other side is that not a fs overcrook? If a reg footer ollied over and crooked the outside edge of Clipper that would just be a nosegrind?
In this scenario, since clipper is a ledge, if someone ollied over the ledge (frontside) to crooks on the other side as so,
(https://i.imgur.com/brvZ3nk.png)
it would be called an ollie over to bs crooks. Since darrel stanton ollied over clipper into a front blunt even though he approached backside.
(https://i.imgur.com/aDpEFqK.gif)
Yeah, I think it would be fair to call the clipper situation a fs overcrook. But that is such a rarely done trick and is more an exception to the rule. Maybe it would be safer to say fs overcrooks on rails dont exist.
And agree about the "bs" being implied when talking about a crooks unless otherwise noted so I should have said ollie over to crooks. Was more pointing out that when you ollie over a ledge to grind the outside of it, the fs/bs often gets reversed when naming the trick likely just to paint a clearer picture of what the trick looks like.
If someone did the trick I shittily photoshopped above on clipper, and I described it as an ollie over to crooks I think it would paint a more accurate picture of it than if I called it a fs overcrook.
As for Darrels trick, I think ollie over to front blunt would be the best way to describe that trick and whomever you were talking to would be able to picture what you mean.
its basically the non-nose version of this trick: https://skateboarding.transworld.net/features/how-to-ollie-over-to-noseblunt-with-jt-aultz/
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I think the real question is how much the bonus multiplier would be if you kickflip nose manual nollie boneless into it...
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Forrest Kirby Nose Grinds
https://youtu.be/WzIpIr4Uuss?t=78
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On the bunt they mention Bobby D making a vow to keep his nose grinds straight......
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I have been banished to the woods of New England so if I sound salty it’s because I am. I’m frickin old too but I’m not from New York so I’m definitely not Republican. So I was hating my life at the local park (wish those didn’t exist too but like I said gentrification is a bitch) and I had this conversation today at the local park (grrr) let’s not call it a park let’s call it the only flat bar that’s not at my house ok ked. So
There’s no such thing as a front over crook. Been skating since 1784ish and that’s that. Same with Ollie Norte that’s another myth ask Frankie Hill what that trick is called. Why you wanna do that kinda grind anyway idk. Do a nose grind on the rail right in the name of Ron Allen who is the GOAT.
If you can’t read this it’s because I’m 106 yrs old and all I do is skate and complain and go to yail with a j for the last 30yrs of my pathetic life.
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You're 40 and no one cares.....
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Holy fuck there are actually people in this thread trying to say that overcrooks don't exist at all, this website is awful
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there was no such thing as overcrooks until Tony Hawk Pro Skater. It was made up bullshit just to make it translate for the non skater video gamer. the were just called nose grinds. frontside and backside. Straight or over the top. Its just a nosegrind. Frontside and backside.
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I always thought Lindsey Robertson made a good case for front overcrook in Dying to Live.
But it’s still a nosegrind.
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there was no such thing as overcrooks until Tony Hawk Pro Skater. It was made up bullshit just to make it translate for the non skater video gamer. the were just called nose grinds. frontside and backside. Straight or over the top. Its just a nosegrind. Frontside and backside.
Okay buddy
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there was no such thing as overcrooks until Tony Hawk Pro Skater. It was made up bullshit just to make it translate for the non skater video gamer. the were just called nose grinds. frontside and backside. Straight or over the top. Its just a nosegrind. Frontside and backside.
Then would this mean there is no such thing as a crooked grind? Its just a nose grind, right? Wrong, a crook is a combo of noseslide and a nosegrind. If you say there is such a thing as a crook then there is also a overcrook. just think of a double sided curb - if I'm reg and I approach frontside and ollie OVER to the other side and crook, thats just a nosegrind? But If I approach backside and do a crook then its a crook and not a nosegrind?
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there was no such thing as overcrooks until Tony Hawk Pro Skater. It was made up bullshit just to make it translate for the non skater video gamer. the were just called nose grinds. frontside and backside. Straight or over the top. Its just a nosegrind. Frontside and backside.
reference the clipper ledge example earlier in the thread. A suski isnt an oversalad....
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think of 180 nosegrinds. frontside or backside. it doesnt matter if you pinch it or get on top, you call it a 180 nosegrind. you would NEVER call it 180 overcrook. even if you did it like Matt Bennett and pinched it to the max, you would still call it a nosegrind.
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http://a3.espncdn.com/photo/2014/0916/as_skate_karp5_2048.jpg
example. 180 NOSEGRIND.
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if its crooked and pinched and i dont the problem in differentiating an overcrook from a balanced straight nosegrind. if i was to hear someone get pissed off about either in real life though i'd laugh and smack the shit outta them
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in a game of slides and grinds if i did a perfectly balanced nosegrind and someone did a sloppy frontside overcrook as a response i would feel cheated if they accepted it
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http://a3.espncdn.com/photo/2014/0916/as_skate_karp5_2048.jpg
example. 180 NOSEGRIND.
thats on a ledge...not going over anything...If you're regs at Clipper and crook the outside edge(the part facing the bball courts) that just a nosegrind? When it's a clipper style hubba it changes everything. regs but 50 50 the outside - you say thats just an ol fs 50/50? regs and back tail the outside?
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in a game of slides and grinds if i did a perfectly balanced nosegrind and someone did a sloppy frontside overcrook as a response i would feel cheated if they accepted it
and you would be justified - two different tricks - related but different. same if you balance out a bs nosegrind and they crook.
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there was no such thing as overcrooks until Tony Hawk Pro Skater. It was made up bullshit just to make it translate for the non skater video gamer. the were just called nose grinds. frontside and backside. Straight or over the top. Its just a nosegrind. Frontside and backside.
reference the clipper ledge example earlier in the thread. A suski isnt an oversalad....
nigga what
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http://a3.espncdn.com/photo/2014/0916/as_skate_karp5_2048.jpg
example. 180 NOSEGRIND.
http://skateparkoftampa.com/spot/images/mmc09shanebs180ng.jpg
crooked as can be. still a nosegrind.
clipper ledge example would be Ollie Over to crook. Two different edges to grind. ollie over the first edge to other edge is "ollie over to..." whatever backside trick you get in. this as already been covered with photoshopped images and darrell stanton gif. all the while, its still just a nosegrind.
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there was no such thing as overcrooks until Tony Hawk Pro Skater. It was made up bullshit just to make it translate for the non skater video gamer. the were just called nose grinds. frontside and backside. Straight or over the top. Its just a nosegrind. Frontside and backside.
reference the clipper ledge example earlier in the thread. A suski isnt an oversalad....
Exactly
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there was no such thing as overcrooks until Tony Hawk Pro Skater. It was made up bullshit just to make it translate for the non skater video gamer. the were just called nose grinds. frontside and backside. Straight or over the top. Its just a nosegrind. Frontside and backside.
reference the clipper ledge example earlier in the thread. A suski isnt an oversalad....
But your logic literally doesn't make sense. Of course a Suski grind isn't a fucking "oversalad" because no part of the board is going OVER the rail. If anything, a front salad would be an oversuski. Not that I'm surprised you got that wrong because literally nothing else you're saying is making sense.
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there was no such thing as overcrooks until Tony Hawk Pro Skater. It was made up bullshit just to make it translate for the non skater video gamer. the were just called nose grinds. frontside and backside. Straight or over the top. Its just a nosegrind. Frontside and backside.
reference the clipper ledge example earlier in the thread. A suski isnt an oversalad....
you getting upset doesnt make you more right. Your source of your trick names is from a video game that called back smiths front feebles so... lemme guess, you didnt miss 1 episode of KOTR either. its all just nosegrinds still.
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This thread is ridiculous. Overcrook was in captions in mags in the 1990's. Lots of variations of the crook had shit loads of names on the 90's.
Most skate parks in the 1990's did not have handrails. If you wanted to skate a handrail you had to find one in the streets. When lots of skate parks started popping up in the 2000's, they started adding in these little skate park handrails (this was discussed back in the day because it was controversial to some OGs).
The robot jock kids of the 2000's started ripping those little skate park rails, and the overcrook debate emerged because those skate park kids said, and I quote: "That's how you get into a nosegrind on a handrail, there's no other way to do it, therefore there is no overcrook, there all called a front side nosegrind."
That is literally the logic behind the debate, it sparked from robot skate park kids from the 2000's. Pretty stupid imo
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salad points towards the ledge like a blunt. suskie points away. so clearly there's no over-suski you jive turkey motherfuckers!
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there was no such thing as overcrooks until Tony Hawk Pro Skater. It was made up bullshit just to make it translate for the non skater video gamer. the were just called nose grinds. frontside and backside. Straight or over the top. Its just a nosegrind. Frontside and backside.
reference the clipper ledge example earlier in the thread. A suski isnt an oversalad....
no, the fact that I'm right makes me right
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I'm just glad the olympics committee is being formed to put an end to discussions like this.
About time we get some rigor in skateboarding!
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This is what happens when print dies.....
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http://a3.espncdn.com/photo/2014/0916/as_skate_karp5_2048.jpg
example. 180 NOSEGRIND.
crooked as can be. still a nosegrind.
clipper ledge example would be Ollie Over to crook. Two different edges to grind. ollie over the first edge to other edge is "ollie over to..." whatever backside trick you get in. this as already been covered with photoshopped images and darrell stanton gif. all the while, its still just a nosegrind.
ok, so a ollie over to crook not a overcrook..I see the difference, thanks.
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Look at Mark Suciu's instagram, specifically the two saved posts under his bio. There you will find the answers you seek.
Think the suciu grinds should be called overcrooks but it's too late.
Overcrooks....barley....salads....all these tricks came about due to the rail jockey phase of skating.
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Look at Mark Suciu's instagram, specifically the two saved posts under his bio. There you will find the answers you seek.
Think the suciu grinds should be called overcrooks but it's too late.
Overcrooks....barley....salads....all these tricks came about due to the rail jockey phase of skating.
Dressen?? started on tranny?
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It's a nerble grind
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http://techgeek.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Thps_comparison.jpg
i feel like a back overcrook could only exist on a rail because you could actually pinpoint the overpinch
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think it’s agreed that an Ollie over to crooked grind (https://youtu.be/r-bkrRGm4Bo) ((8:05)) can be done, but that overcrook is a shit sounding thps term. So what should we call em then? My vote goes to lobster grind for that hearty right pincher.