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Title: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: VHS ERA on August 11, 2018, 11:00:58 PM
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Calling it now 8/12/18 fuck it
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: able on August 11, 2018, 11:14:07 PM
Nahh...
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: VHS ERA on August 11, 2018, 11:19:16 PM
Nahh...

Thatís what I said last time
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Pigeon on August 11, 2018, 11:22:46 PM
Space Force is such a great idea.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: deathturd on August 11, 2018, 11:36:26 PM
I'm hoping Trump has a plan to re-unite Buzz Aldrin with Woody and Andy
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: able on August 12, 2018, 12:54:39 AM
Nahh...

Thatís what I said last time
Shit, me too
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Sleazy on August 12, 2018, 04:11:31 AM
Depends on the economy. So far heís doing pretty good on that front but the trade war might bite him (and us) in the ass. Iíd probably rather he get re-elected if it meant the economy had to tank for him to loose.

Who the Dems got anyway?
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: SodaJerk on August 12, 2018, 06:06:02 AM
It wouldn't surprise me but I'm more interested in that breakdancing pregnant woman. Where can I see footage of her?
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on August 12, 2018, 06:52:46 AM
Our leader in canada is so bad I see people supporting trump waaaay more than our own leader. Wtf

Also, I hope you guys get a great leader as long as it's not Hillary

Still think you guys fucked up not voting dr. Ron paul
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: backinaction on August 12, 2018, 07:17:02 AM
Depends on the economy. So far heís doing pretty good on that front but the trade war might bite him (and us) in the ass.

Not sure I agree with this.  Some of the numbers show that the economy is growing, but inflation is also at it's highest rate in years.  This means that even though a lot of workers are getting a bigger paycheck, they are able to buy less.  In addition, much of the growth that has gone to the people that already had great wealth.  The huge corporate tax cuts that were to allow them to hire employees and pay their people better (both things that would positively impact the masses) went to stock buyback programs which positively impact the shareholders. 

A number of people I have talked to in the financial industry (and some I have overheard at the coffee shop) are getting ready for this to tank and are recommending that people move their investments overseas. 

Our town's tourism numbers are down after being up year over year for almost a decade. Tourism is a huge part of our region's economy. People I know that are in that industry are telling me that the ones that are coming are spending less money. 

That's what I see, and that is all before this trade war bullshit has really had an effect.

Seems like things in the economy are really not that strong.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: iKobrakai on August 12, 2018, 07:19:55 AM
I don't really like Trump but next moron will probably be worse.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: backinaction on August 12, 2018, 11:35:35 AM
Depends on the economy. So far heís doing pretty good on that front but the trade war might bite him (and us) in the ass.

The other thing we have to worry about is housing - and this isn't Trump's fault.  Houses are super over priced and people are struggling to afford them.  I live in a place that is using places like the bay area, seattle, etc.. as feeder markets.  People sell their ridiculously overpriced homes there and come here, often paying cash for our slightly less overpriced homes.  This makes it super hard for someone that lives here and doesn't already own, or anyone moving from a less overpriced market.  Regular people are having problems buying houses.

I have talked to a number of people this summer that are selling their homes in order to rent because they believe there is an imminent crash coming in housing and they need to cash out now.  I did this same thing in '07 and rented for 4 years, then bought in '11 - so I'm really trying to pay attention this time around too.  It looks like there have been slight declines in the last couple months for a few metropolitan areas in the Case Shiller housing index.  If declines start showing in more cities - and for bigger amounts - housing is going to probably take a giant shit again. 

That has nothing to do with Trump's policies, but it's not going to look good if two Republican presidents in a row have a housing crash.  For the record, I believe the last one WAS due to the administration's policies.  I think this one has more to do with the obscene amount of money made in tech and that skewing the market massively.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: VHS ERA on August 12, 2018, 01:00:56 PM
Very drunk when I posted this
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: chilllyboy on August 12, 2018, 01:49:44 PM
I don't really like Trump but next moron will probably be worse.

Exactly. Its like 2016 opened pandora's box for ridiculous/absurd candidates. I wouldn't b surprised if our choices for  the next upcoming election are Ted Nugent and a live dolphin (b/c they're people too!)

Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: ChuckRamone on August 12, 2018, 02:53:52 PM
It wouldn't surprise me but I'm more interested in that breakdancing pregnant woman. Where can I see footage of her?

more like a breakdancing fetus inside a pregnant woman.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Sleazy on August 12, 2018, 05:57:41 PM
Depends on the economy. So far heís doing pretty good on that front but the trade war might bite him (and us) in the ass.

Not sure I agree with this.  Some of the numbers show that the economy is growing, but inflation is also at it's highest rate in years.  This means that even though a lot of workers are getting a bigger paycheck, they are able to buy less.  In addition, much of the growth that has gone to the people that already had great wealth.  The huge corporate tax cuts that were to allow them to hire employees and pay their people better (both things that would positively impact the masses) went to stock buyback programs which positively impact the shareholders. 

A number of people I have talked to in the financial industry (and some I have overheard at the coffee shop) are getting ready for this to tank and are recommending that people move their investments overseas. 

Our town's tourism numbers are down after being up year over year for almost a decade. Tourism is a huge part of our region's economy. People I know that are in that industry are telling me that the ones that are coming are spending less money. 

That's what I see, and that is all before this trade war bullshit has really had an effect.

Seems like things in the economy are really not that strong.

i kind of feel like that's a pedantic critique and talks a bit to income equality and regional specifics and i feel my assessment might line up better with what would actually happen with swing voters. those voters are really only going to change their votes if they starting loosing jobs. gdp has been growing slight above his projections and unemployment has been going down. trump was already an asshole who was obviously getting help from the russians with lots of scandals and rascist policies before the last election so there's nothing new there.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: VHS ERA on August 12, 2018, 06:12:19 PM
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Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Frank on August 12, 2018, 06:22:46 PM
I don't really like Trump but next moron will probably be worse.

Exactly. Its like 2016 opened pandora's box for ridiculous/absurd candidates. I wouldn't b surprised if our choices for  the next upcoming election are Ted Nugent and a live dolphin (b/c they're people too!)

politics are fucked nowadays. i hope we get overruled by our machine lords and saviours soon.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: kentrock on August 12, 2018, 10:42:58 PM
our economy is doing good and we have more skateparks than ever before.  make america skate again!
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: iKobrakai on August 12, 2018, 11:00:35 PM
I don't really like Trump but next moron will probably be worse.

Exactly. Its like 2016 opened pandora's box for ridiculous/absurd candidates. I wouldn't b surprised if our choices for  the next upcoming election are Ted Nugent and a live dolphin (b/c they're people too!)

politics are fucked nowadays. i hope we get overruled by our machine lords and saviours soon.

Indeed.

I don't think it is impossible for these to run:

Alex Jones
Elon Musk
The Rock
Neil Degrasse Tyson

Might sound like I'm just picking for a Youtube feed, but you elected actors and other kinds of morons in the past.

Feel free to expand.

Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Owen on August 13, 2018, 02:27:28 AM
I personally would love to see The Rock ruling the U.S. Hope he brings Vin Diesel along as secretary of state.

I'm also stoked to see that Steven Segal has been appointed to a Russian-U.S envoy.

 
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: igrindtwinkies on August 13, 2018, 04:40:26 AM
I don't really like Trump but next moron will probably be worse.

Exactly. Its like 2016 opened pandora's box for ridiculous/absurd candidates. I wouldn't b surprised if our choices for  the next upcoming election are Ted Nugent and a live dolphin (b/c they're people too!)

politics are fucked nowadays. i hope we get overruled by our machine lords and saviours soon.

Indeed.

I don't think it is impossible for these to run:

Alex Jones
Elon Musk
The Rock
Neil Degrasse Tyson

Might sound like I'm just picking for a Youtube feed, but you elected actors and other kinds of morons in the past.

Feel free to expand.

Musk wasn't born here so he's not elgible.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Sleazy on August 13, 2018, 04:41:56 AM
I don't really like Trump but next moron will probably be worse.

Exactly. Its like 2016 opened pandora's box for ridiculous/absurd candidates. I wouldn't b surprised if our choices for  the next upcoming election are Ted Nugent and a live dolphin (b/c they're people too!)

politics are fucked nowadays. i hope we get overruled by our machine lords and saviours soon.

Indeed.

I don't think it is impossible for these to run:

Alex Jones
Elon Musk
The Rock
Neil Degrasse Tyson

Might sound like I'm just picking for a Youtube feed, but you elected actors and other kinds of morons in the past.

Feel free to expand.

that's funny. i have to say, i'd vote for trump over oprah. not sure how we ended up where celebrity is more important than political experience.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Peter Zagreus on August 13, 2018, 09:50:32 AM
I don't really like Trump but next moron will probably be worse.

Exactly. Its like 2016 opened pandora's box for ridiculous/absurd candidates. I wouldn't b surprised if our choices for  the next upcoming election are Ted Nugent and a live dolphin (b/c they're people too!)

politics are fucked nowadays. i hope we get overruled by our machine lords and saviours soon.

Indeed.

I don't think it is impossible for these to run:

Alex Jones
Elon Musk
The Rock
Neil Degrasse Tyson

Might sound like I'm just picking for a Youtube feed, but you elected actors and other kinds of morons in the past.

Feel free to expand.

that's funny. i have to say, i'd vote for trump over oprah. not sure how we ended up where celebrity is more important than political experience.

Voter "Eligibility" + Television + Politics - Education x Entertainment/Consumerism [Celebrity - Talent/Value x Controlled Chaos of Advertising] + Resentment/Insecurity x Material Comfort/Inflamed sense of "SELF" raised to the power of INTERNET = Debased Civic Ethos of Trumpistan ?
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: h00man on August 13, 2018, 11:19:06 AM
I don't really like Trump but next moron will probably be worse.

Exactly. Its like 2016 opened pandora's box for ridiculous/absurd candidates. I wouldn't b surprised if our choices for  the next upcoming election are Ted Nugent and a live dolphin (b/c they're people too!)

politics are fucked nowadays. i hope we get overruled by our machine lords and saviours soon.

Indeed.

I don't think it is impossible for these to run:

Alex Jones
Elon Musk
The Rock
Neil Degrasse Tyson

Might sound like I'm just picking for a Youtube feed, but you elected actors and other kinds of morons in the past.

Feel free to expand.

that's funny. i have to say, i'd vote for trump over oprah. not sure how we ended up where celebrity is more important than political experience.

Voter "Eligibility" + Television + Politics - Education x Entertainment/Consumerism [Celebrity - Talent/Value x Controlled Chaos of Advertising] + Resentment/Insecurity x Material Comfort/Inflamed sense of "SELF" raised to the power of INTERNET = Debased Civic Ethos of Trumpistan ?

If a fucking fat ass moron of a business man that has no political background can become president, I'm pretty sure literally any person can as well. Shit, a live dolphin would be better than Trump.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: nopes on August 13, 2018, 12:02:36 PM
I don't really like Trump but next moron will probably be worse.

i really want to say no way but i cant.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Frank on August 13, 2018, 01:19:24 PM
elon musk as a president could be pretty funny. for someone like me who doesn't live in the us. i imagine it wouldn't be that different to trump. just some other type of mark that uses twitter too much. he'd probably put a heck of a lot of money into nasa, which would be cool. on the other hand, i imagine him handing down posts to friends and acquaintances like trump does. and fucking grimes would be first lady. the thought is just as hilarious as trump, therefore it's highly realistic.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Baron Samedi on August 13, 2018, 01:28:55 PM
I would take basically any of the names mentioned over Trump besides Alex Jones, and that includes the live dolphin. Or a dead dolphin, for that matter.

Seeing Alex Jones's crazy ass in the white house would be hilarious for about 10 minutes and then I'd probably look into putting my house up for sale and seeing if I can get Latvian citizenship through my grandfather.

Honestly, I'll be pretty unsurprised if the orange guy gets reelected.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Owen on August 13, 2018, 09:38:57 PM
Dead dolphin for 2020. Bring it
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: L33Tg33k on August 13, 2018, 09:57:30 PM
How the fuck is Neil DeGrasse Tyson in the same category as Alex Jones, Elon Musk, and the Rock? That dude is an actual scientist without a discernible political agenda besides being pro science and reason based. We would be so fucking lucky to have an actual science communicator and professional smart person as president. To play devil's advocate, if for some reason these four threw their hats into the ring, I'm pretty sure The Rock would win in a landslide. ;)
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: iKobrakai on August 14, 2018, 12:16:11 AM
How the fuck is Neil DeGrasse Tyson in the same category as Alex Jones, Elon Musk, and the Rock? That dude is an actual scientist without a discernible political agenda besides being pro science and reason based. We would be so fucking lucky to have an actual science communicator and professional smart person as president. To play devil's advocate, if for some reason these four threw their hats into the ring, I'm pretty sure The Rock would win in a landslide. ;)

I was just picking people that are famous/out there, for one reason or another, no real selection. The average, uninformed Joe Shmoe will, at times, go for a name they recognize, even though the candidate has very little political competence.

Also, some talk about Neil making shit up:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/09/22/does-neil-degrasse-tyson-make-up-stories/?utm_term=.e9b06d1c5ecd

Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Mystical Leader on August 14, 2018, 03:55:35 AM
I'll add Joe Rogan to the list too..

Maybe by then someone of the Kardashians thinks to run for presidency too..

Nobody takes politics seriously nowadays and thats the problem it only lures in egolomaniacs and most of the smart people don't have a chance and would rather do something more productive than get ridiculed by these new world bullies...

Also fuck the media and all this following liking culture it never produces anything good but a big head
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Dirtymac on August 14, 2018, 05:23:11 AM
I'll add Joe Rogan to the list too..

Maybe by then someone of the Kardashians thinks to run for presidency too..

Nobody takes politics seriously nowadays and thats the problem it only lures in egolomaniacs and most of the smart people don't have a chance and would rather do something more productive than get ridiculed by these new world bullies...

Also fuck the media and all this following liking culture it never produces anything good but a big head
egolomaniac- a juggalo who thinks he's all that and a bag of chips...
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: h00man on August 14, 2018, 02:04:54 PM
There needs to be someone with political and scientific power/knowledge. We need someone who isn't going to put religion in their political agenda (better yet, an atheist). I'm sick of all this "god this, god that, I believe in a fictional being and he tells me that women and minorities are below me".
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Peter Zagreus on August 14, 2018, 02:43:46 PM
There needs to be someone with political and scientific power/knowledge. We need someone who isn't going to put religion in their political agenda (better yet, an atheist). I'm sick of all this "god this, god that, I believe in a fictional being and he tells me that women and minorities are below me".

No kidding, man. Something like 75 percent of Americans still identify as X-tians, not to mention the other religions.
I've got no patience for this shit anymore.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: ratherwatch on August 14, 2018, 04:34:58 PM
Depends on the economy. So far heís doing pretty good on that front but the trade war might bite him (and us) in the ass. Iíd probably rather he get re-elected if it meant the economy had to tank for him to loose.

Who the Dems got anyway?
Outside bet: Michelle Obama, Americas's sweetheart.
Inside bet: Cory Booker, fired by the indignation of the righteous.

?
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: VHS ERA on August 14, 2018, 06:07:10 PM
Iíd be fine with President Neil Degrasse Tyson
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: PABLOS SWANPOWERS LOBSTER on August 15, 2018, 08:05:38 AM
I don't really like Trump but next moron will probably be worse.

This the most meaningless, limp statement I have ever read you boring pussy. Fuck you.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: PABLOS SWANPOWERS LOBSTER on August 15, 2018, 08:15:50 AM
I don't really like Trump but next moron will probably be worse.

Exactly. Its like 2016 opened pandora's box for ridiculous/absurd candidates. I wouldn't b surprised if our choices for  the next upcoming election are Ted Nugent and a live dolphin (b/c they're people too!)

politics are fucked nowadays. i hope we get overruled by our machine lords and saviours soon.

Indeed.

I don't think it is impossible for these to run:

Alex Jones
Elon Musk
The Rock
Neil Degrasse Tyson

Might sound like I'm just picking for a Youtube feed, but you elected actors and other kinds of morons in the past.

Feel free to expand.

that's funny. i have to say, i'd vote for trump over oprah. not sure how we ended up where celebrity is more important than political experience.

You know you all sound like useless yokels. Literally anyone would be better than Trump. How are you all so useless? Political discourse should never start with "I have no idea, but he is probably better than then next guy" and then a bunch of assholes stand around nodding. Are you medieval serfs or something?
Trump is literally the caricature of every evil rich bastard in childrens cartoons, and yet he is better than the next guy? Get a fucking clue.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: VHS ERA on August 15, 2018, 08:49:26 AM
 I think if you picked someone random off the street theyíd have a pretty good shot at doing better than Trump
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: iKobrakai on August 15, 2018, 10:18:35 AM
I have no idea why this nobody Pablo showed up but ok, I'll respond.

First of all, I'm all the way in Gay Europe, so I never voted for the cunt, nor do I support him.

I grew up in Russia so I have a pretty good experience of all-downhill-leadership. Just when we thought that there was no way for the next leader to be any worse, guess what the fuck happened? Sometimes I suspect that had we not slay the royal family, we'd be better off today.

US "yokels" elected two Bushes and one Trump. Trust me, cunt, US track record gives no indications things are about to get better. Like others already said, the door is open for all kinds of retards.

And no, Obama and Clinton are not that amazing. If you have the time, check out Moore's "Stupid White Men", there is a whole chapter about the pathetic and evil shit these so-called "Democrats" did.

I'm not super happy about your two-party system. Raise your standards, folks, and demand more of the cunts. I don't care if they are left or right. Us, regular workers, work our asses off, politicians are not really performing that well, if you ask me.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: essal on August 17, 2018, 03:30:22 AM
i think the majority of americans can't deal with more parties. pick your version of good or bad.

trump has a great shot at being reelected, because all they do is to polarize each others so there is no way you'll get a mellow democrat or a mellow republican next time.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: ShoeProblem on August 17, 2018, 04:23:30 AM
Whoever said we should have elected Ron Paul is an idiot.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: brycickle on August 17, 2018, 08:29:31 AM
Whoever said we should have elected Ron Paul is an idiot.
This is true.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on August 17, 2018, 10:44:53 AM
Why?

Ron paul obviously hasn't been in a race anytime soon.

I really like his anti war, anti corporate attitude

And he was well spoken and very knowledgeable
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: behavioralguide on August 17, 2018, 11:07:55 AM
which celebrity would you wanna see for prez?

bill murray
nicholas cage
joey from friends
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Baron Samedi on August 17, 2018, 11:41:19 AM
most importantly, where is Gay Europe?
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: fulltechnicalskizzy on August 17, 2018, 02:55:07 PM
Everywhere but Chechnya, I believe
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Sleazy on August 18, 2018, 04:43:34 AM
I don't really like Trump but next moron will probably be worse.

Exactly. Its like 2016 opened pandora's box for ridiculous/absurd candidates. I wouldn't b surprised if our choices for  the next upcoming election are Ted Nugent and a live dolphin (b/c they're people too!)

politics are fucked nowadays. i hope we get overruled by our machine lords and saviours soon.

Indeed.

I don't think it is impossible for these to run:

Alex Jones
Elon Musk
The Rock
Neil Degrasse Tyson

Might sound like I'm just picking for a Youtube feed, but you elected actors and other kinds of morons in the past.

Feel free to expand.

that's funny. i have to say, i'd vote for trump over oprah. not sure how we ended up where celebrity is more important than political experience.

You know you all sound like useless yokels. Literally anyone would be better than Trump. How are you all so useless? Political discourse should never start with "I have no idea, but he is probably better than then next guy" and then a bunch of assholes stand around nodding. Are you medieval serfs or something?
Trump is literally the caricature of every evil rich bastard in childrens cartoons, and yet he is better than the next guy? Get a fucking clue.

ok tough guy... trumps got a lot of things he ran on done for his base (the people that voted for him and who fairly won the election). getting nato nations to chip more in is a good thing. economy is doing good, he lowered the shit out of taxes, he seemed to be able to out crazy kim jon un, the jury is still out on how the trade polices will work out but i think someone needed to try something new (just like with healthcare and obama),  etc...

i'm not sure how you can evaluate how good an elected official is doing without taking into account the platform they ran on and the people who voted for them and how well they are doing in that context. this country is divided and both sides deserver a turn running things and trying out their ideas no matter how shitty the ideas are. probably not a great idea to never give the side of the country that loves guns a turn running things.

i didn't vote for him, i hope he's a single term president, i think he's an awful person, he's had a really toxic effect on our politics but i personally would take him over the other republicans that ran. i like that he represents the republican brand for what it actually is, revealing it's ugly head and even though he is swinging the pendulum way too far back the other way i like the push back on political correctness which was getting pretty ridiculous before he got elected.

i'm not the kind of person who has to give a completely biased point of view to have a negative opinion about someone or something. you sound like the people who claim they were suffering under obama. no one was suffering, he got some things done for progressives and liberals, gay people got more rights, some new things were tried in healthcare, etc... if everyone stopped being babies about politics, stopped the name calling and hyperbole, maybe we could get more reasonable balanced candidates elected and find our way to more balanced middle of the road policies. half this country loves what's he's doing and getting good things done in the future will require a lot of those peoples help so maybe we shouldn't call everyone who doesn't feel the same way about things as us racist or tell them to get a fucking clue. maybe we'd be better off if we handle this like any other situation where you are critical life and lead the conversation with a few compliments before you start calling out the things that are going wrong. are you ever able to successfully have a conversation with people in your circle that have more conservative beliefs that actually effects their opinions? i do it all the time and it's because i'm not an asshole about their opinions and their guy. maybe you should try it sometime, you might get more done than talking like an asshole on the internet.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Tale Crab on August 18, 2018, 07:46:49 AM
Just no.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on August 18, 2018, 07:55:55 AM
Who are the dems even running as opposition?

At one time I could understand American politics, now it's just all over the fuckin place.

Seriously looks like America is in ruins and a deeply divided country

Canada certainly isn't perfect either but at least it's kinda good for everyone (excluding indigenous)
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: PABLOS SWANPOWERS LOBSTER on August 21, 2018, 06:34:48 AM
I don't really like Trump but next moron will probably be worse.

Exactly. Its like 2016 opened pandora's box for ridiculous/absurd candidates. I wouldn't b surprised if our choices for  the next upcoming election are Ted Nugent and a live dolphin (b/c they're people too!)

politics are fucked nowadays. i hope we get overruled by our machine lords and saviours soon.

Indeed.

I don't think it is impossible for these to run:

Alex Jones
Elon Musk
The Rock
Neil Degrasse Tyson

Might sound like I'm just picking for a Youtube feed, but you elected actors and other kinds of morons in the past.

Feel free to expand.

that's funny. i have to say, i'd vote for trump over oprah. not sure how we ended up where celebrity is more important than political experience.

You know you all sound like useless yokels. Literally anyone would be better than Trump. How are you all so useless? Political discourse should never start with "I have no idea, but he is probably better than then next guy" and then a bunch of assholes stand around nodding. Are you medieval serfs or something?
Trump is literally the caricature of every evil rich bastard in childrens cartoons, and yet he is better than the next guy? Get a fucking clue.

ok tough guy... trumps got a lot of things he ran on done for his base (the people that voted for him and who fairly won the election). getting nato nations to chip more in is a good thing. economy is doing good, he lowered the shit out of taxes, he seemed to be able to out crazy kim jon un, the jury is still out on how the trade polices will work out but i think someone needed to try something new (just like with healthcare and obama),  etc...

i'm not sure how you can evaluate how good an elected official is doing without taking into account the platform they ran on and the people who voted for them and how well they are doing in that context. this country is divided and both sides deserver a turn running things and trying out their ideas no matter how shitty the ideas are. probably not a great idea to never give the side of the country that loves guns a turn running things.

i didn't vote for him, i hope he's a single term president, i think he's an awful person, he's had a really toxic effect on our politics but i personally would take him over the other republicans that ran. i like that he represents the republican brand for what it actually is, revealing it's ugly head and even though he is swinging the pendulum way too far back the other way i like the push back on political correctness which was getting pretty ridiculous before he got elected.

i'm not the kind of person who has to give a completely biased point of view to have a negative opinion about someone or something. you sound like the people who claim they were suffering under obama. no one was suffering, he got some things done for progressives and liberals, gay people got more rights, some new things were tried in healthcare, etc... if everyone stopped being babies about politics, stopped the name calling and hyperbole, maybe we could get more reasonable balanced candidates elected and find our way to more balanced middle of the road policies. half this country loves what's he's doing and getting good things done in the future will require a lot of those peoples help so maybe we shouldn't call everyone who doesn't feel the same way about things as us racist or tell them to get a fucking clue. maybe we'd be better off if we handle this like any other situation where you are critical life and lead the conversation with a few compliments before you start calling out the things that are going wrong. are you ever able to successfully have a conversation with people in your circle that have more conservative beliefs that actually effects their opinions? i do it all the time and it's because i'm not an asshole about their opinions and their guy. maybe you should try it sometime, you might get more done than talking like an asshole on the internet.

For the record, I stopped giving a shit about your overly wordy opinion when you listed Trump out-crazying Kim Jong Un as a positive. Are you an idiot?

But I will say this.

If you would vote for a draft dodging, fake tan wearing, italinate property developer trust fund baby over a black self made female billionaire you are one stupid motherfucker.







Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: PABLOS SWANPOWERS LOBSTER on August 21, 2018, 06:57:47 AM
I have no idea why this nobody Pablo showed up but ok, I'll respond.

First of all, I'm all the way in Gay Europe, so I never voted for the cunt, nor do I support him.

I grew up in Russia so I have a pretty good experience of all-downhill-leadership. Just when we thought that there was no way for the next leader to be any worse, guess what the fuck happened? Sometimes I suspect that had we not slay the royal family, we'd be better off today.

US "yokels" elected two Bushes and one Trump. Trust me, cunt, US track record gives no indications things are about to get better. Like others already said, the door is open for all kinds of retards.

And no, Obama and Clinton are not that amazing. If you have the time, check out Moore's "Stupid White Men", there is a whole chapter about the pathetic and evil shit these so-called "Democrats" did.

I'm not super happy about your two-party system. Raise your standards, folks, and demand more of the cunts. I don't care if they are left or right. Us, regular workers, work our asses off, politicians are not really performing that well, if you ask me.

I want to reply but at the same time I don't so all I will say is at least me calling you out over lazy bullshit got you to say something maybe half interesting instead of the nothing bullshit you were spouting earlier. Good old Nobody Powers igniting at least some half assed ideas.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Sleazy on August 21, 2018, 07:54:34 AM
I don't really like Trump but next moron will probably be worse.

Exactly. Its like 2016 opened pandora's box for ridiculous/absurd candidates. I wouldn't b surprised if our choices for  the next upcoming election are Ted Nugent and a live dolphin (b/c they're people too!)

politics are fucked nowadays. i hope we get overruled by our machine lords and saviours soon.

Indeed.

I don't think it is impossible for these to run:

Alex Jones
Elon Musk
The Rock
Neil Degrasse Tyson

Might sound like I'm just picking for a Youtube feed, but you elected actors and other kinds of morons in the past.

Feel free to expand.

that's funny. i have to say, i'd vote for trump over oprah. not sure how we ended up where celebrity is more important than political experience.

You know you all sound like useless yokels. Literally anyone would be better than Trump. How are you all so useless? Political discourse should never start with "I have no idea, but he is probably better than then next guy" and then a bunch of assholes stand around nodding. Are you medieval serfs or something?
Trump is literally the caricature of every evil rich bastard in childrens cartoons, and yet he is better than the next guy? Get a fucking clue.

ok tough guy... trumps got a lot of things he ran on done for his base (the people that voted for him and who fairly won the election). getting nato nations to chip more in is a good thing. economy is doing good, he lowered the shit out of taxes, he seemed to be able to out crazy kim jon un, the jury is still out on how the trade polices will work out but i think someone needed to try something new (just like with healthcare and obama),  etc...

i'm not sure how you can evaluate how good an elected official is doing without taking into account the platform they ran on and the people who voted for them and how well they are doing in that context. this country is divided and both sides deserver a turn running things and trying out their ideas no matter how shitty the ideas are. probably not a great idea to never give the side of the country that loves guns a turn running things.

i didn't vote for him, i hope he's a single term president, i think he's an awful person, he's had a really toxic effect on our politics but i personally would take him over the other republicans that ran. i like that he represents the republican brand for what it actually is, revealing it's ugly head and even though he is swinging the pendulum way too far back the other way i like the push back on political correctness which was getting pretty ridiculous before he got elected.

i'm not the kind of person who has to give a completely biased point of view to have a negative opinion about someone or something. you sound like the people who claim they were suffering under obama. no one was suffering, he got some things done for progressives and liberals, gay people got more rights, some new things were tried in healthcare, etc... if everyone stopped being babies about politics, stopped the name calling and hyperbole, maybe we could get more reasonable balanced candidates elected and find our way to more balanced middle of the road policies. half this country loves what's he's doing and getting good things done in the future will require a lot of those peoples help so maybe we shouldn't call everyone who doesn't feel the same way about things as us racist or tell them to get a fucking clue. maybe we'd be better off if we handle this like any other situation where you are critical life and lead the conversation with a few compliments before you start calling out the things that are going wrong. are you ever able to successfully have a conversation with people in your circle that have more conservative beliefs that actually effects their opinions? i do it all the time and it's because i'm not an asshole about their opinions and their guy. maybe you should try it sometime, you might get more done than talking like an asshole on the internet.

For the record, I stopped giving a shit about your overly wordy opinion when you listed Trump out-crazying Kim Jong Un as a positive. Are you an idiot?

But I will say this.

If you would vote for a draft dodging, fake tan wearing, italinate property developer trust fund baby over a black self made female billionaire you are one stupid motherfucker.

wow so tough man, you are really changing people minds with your eloquent ways and beefy attention span
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: iKobrakai on August 21, 2018, 07:56:12 AM
I have no idea why this nobody Pablo showed up but ok, I'll respond.

First of all, I'm all the way in Gay Europe, so I never voted for the cunt, nor do I support him.

I grew up in Russia so I have a pretty good experience of all-downhill-leadership. Just when we thought that there was no way for the next leader to be any worse, guess what the fuck happened? Sometimes I suspect that had we not slay the royal family, we'd be better off today.

US "yokels" elected two Bushes and one Trump. Trust me, cunt, US track record gives no indications things are about to get better. Like others already said, the door is open for all kinds of retards.

And no, Obama and Clinton are not that amazing. If you have the time, check out Moore's "Stupid White Men", there is a whole chapter about the pathetic and evil shit these so-called "Democrats" did.

I'm not super happy about your two-party system. Raise your standards, folks, and demand more of the cunts. I don't care if they are left or right. Us, regular workers, work our asses off, politicians are not really performing that well, if you ask me.

I want to reply but at the same time I don't so all I will say is at least me calling you out over lazy bullshit got you to say something maybe half interesting instead of the nothing bullshit you were spouting earlier. Good old Nobody Powers igniting at least some half assed ideas.

I'd rather post my "lazy bullshit" than stupid garbage you generate. A lot of people on Slap command reading comprehension skills and don't need a fucking wall to understand a point.

You're giving yourself too much credit, honey. Now, go back to skateboard-city forum.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: quadcuff on August 21, 2018, 09:05:54 AM
democrats should just play it nice and quiet like, look, we know you want a break from this, let's just chill

run someone like that
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: brycickle on August 21, 2018, 09:11:34 AM
I hear Kevin Spacey is looking for work.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: behavioralguide on August 21, 2018, 09:28:05 AM
democrats should just play it nice and quiet like, look, we know you want a break from this, let's just chill

run someone like that

(https://media.giphy.com/media/5SwdwBf837MyHy185d/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: MarxLenin on August 21, 2018, 07:27:34 PM
If popular discontent turns left and has a candidate, Trump will lose, against Typical democratism...
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: backinaction on August 22, 2018, 11:39:32 AM
This is all assuming he doesn't get impeached before then.   Chances are looking pretty good that he will be.

A side thought I had this morning - if you were born after 1988, a Republican president hasn't been elected to their first term with the more votes than the Democrat during your life.  6 of the last 7 presidential elections have had more votes go to the Democrat.

Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Yushin Okami on August 22, 2018, 02:39:44 PM
i'm not sure how you can evaluate how good an elected official is doing without taking into account the platform they ran on and the people who voted for them and how well they are doing in that context. this country is divided and both sides deserver a turn running things and trying out their ideas no matter how shitty the ideas are. probably not a great idea to never give the side of the country that loves guns a turn running things.

Serious question... why?
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: VHS ERA on August 22, 2018, 03:19:34 PM
Not pumped about the real possibility of President Pence either
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: snowman600 on August 22, 2018, 04:05:07 PM
(https://img.memecdn.com/America-a-Shark-of-Something_o_21443.jpg)
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: el chino on August 22, 2018, 05:14:51 PM
 :'(
which celebrity would you wanna see for prez?

bill murray
nicholas cage
joey from friends
i will gladly kick nic hole-ass cage in the nuts if he ever runs for president
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Sleazy on August 22, 2018, 09:51:58 PM
i'm not sure how you can evaluate how good an elected official is doing without taking into account the platform they ran on and the people who voted for them and how well they are doing in that context. this country is divided and both sides deserver a turn running things and trying out their ideas no matter how shitty the ideas are. probably not a great idea to never give the side of the country that loves guns a turn running things.

Serious question... why?

Because itís a democracy and peaceful transitions of power is one of the best things about democracy. If youíre not anti-democracy then surely you are comfortable with both sides getting a turn running things.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Yushin Okami on August 23, 2018, 09:28:10 AM
i'm not sure how you can evaluate how good an elected official is doing without taking into account the platform they ran on and the people who voted for them and how well they are doing in that context. this country is divided and both sides deserver a turn running things and trying out their ideas no matter how shitty the ideas are. probably not a great idea to never give the side of the country that loves guns a turn running things.

Serious question... why?

Because itís a democracy and peaceful transitions of power is one of the best things about democracy. If youíre not anti-democracy then surely you are comfortable with both sides getting a turn running things.

Couldn't agree more. My question was more related to your wording. What do you see happening if the side "that loves guns" never gets a chance?
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Hevonen on August 23, 2018, 11:25:41 AM
i'm not sure how you can evaluate how good an elected official is doing without taking into account the platform they ran on and the people who voted for them and how well they are doing in that context. this country is divided and both sides deserver a turn running things and trying out their ideas no matter how shitty the ideas are. probably not a great idea to never give the side of the country that loves guns a turn running things.

Serious question... why?

Because itís a democracy and peaceful transitions of power is one of the best things about democracy. If youíre not anti-democracy then surely you are comfortable with both sides getting a turn running things.

Couldn't agree more. My question was more related to your wording. What do you see happening if the side "that loves guns" never gets a chance?

Didn't ask me but suppressing people with opposite opinions only makes them more radicalized. You know things are already pretty fucked when half of the voters feel so shitty and done with the current political system that they rather vote for Trump instead of all the decent experienced politicians just because he represents some kind of change.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: weedpop on August 23, 2018, 11:56:15 PM
i'm not sure how you can evaluate how good an elected official is doing without taking into account the platform they ran on and the people who voted for them and how well they are doing in that context. this country is divided and both sides deserver a turn running things and trying out their ideas no matter how shitty the ideas are. probably not a great idea to never give the side of the country that loves guns a turn running things.

Serious question... why?

Because itís a democracy and peaceful transitions of power is one of the best things about democracy. If youíre not anti-democracy then surely you are comfortable with both sides getting a turn running things.

It's not really a peaceful transition if it's backed by the threat of violence. The point about respecting the results of elections is valid though.

I wish people would stop treating economic numbers like baseball stats in evaluating presidents. It takes years for the full impact of economic policy changes to be felt, and there's plenty of ways of juicing the economy for votes while setting up major crises down the road (as we saw ~10 yrs ago). To evaluate Trump's economic performance, you have to also analyse the potential impact of all of his policies years from now. Beyond the initial sugar high of tax cuts for the stock market, he's done very little beyond create a lot of instability with his trade policies.

Besides, if you're gonna vote based on the economy, shouldn't you also take into account how they would fare during an economic crisis? Is Trump really the person you would want to be at the wheel if/when shit hits the fan?
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Sleazy on August 24, 2018, 05:16:21 AM
i'm not sure how you can evaluate how good an elected official is doing without taking into account the platform they ran on and the people who voted for them and how well they are doing in that context. this country is divided and both sides deserver a turn running things and trying out their ideas no matter how shitty the ideas are. probably not a great idea to never give the side of the country that loves guns a turn running things.

Serious question... why?

Because itís a democracy and peaceful transitions of power is one of the best things about democracy. If youíre not anti-democracy then surely you are comfortable with both sides getting a turn running things.

Couldn't agree more. My question was more related to your wording. What do you see happening if the side "that loves guns" never gets a chance?

that was mostly just a joke but the republican side of the political spectrum seems more inclined to do some crazy violent terrorist type things. we've already had armed militia looking groups taking federal buildings over the cow grazing on federal lands. i wouldn't be surprised if the republicans became a true minority, opposition party and never got real power the crazier side of the party would do something crazy after a while.

It's not really a peaceful transition if it's backed by the threat of violence. The point about respecting the results of elections is valid though.


yeah that was mostly a dumb dad joke

I wish people would stop treating economic numbers like baseball stats in evaluating presidents. It takes years for the full impact of economic policy changes to be felt, and there's plenty of ways of juicing the economy for votes while setting up major crises down the road (as we saw ~10 yrs ago).

this is a fair point but to me it looks like the two ways to stimulate growth are both short term fixes. you can invest in spending (democrats) or cut taxes (republican) and both will likely have a positive growth effect. i kind of feel like if we aren't going into debt pay down mode then tax cuts might be the right call. if you look at what japan did after the lost decade they invested in spending to spur growth which ran up debt and then once the spending got the economy moving they started to pay down the debt. it's the same thing you would do if you had a small business, you put some marketing and sales efforts on your cards to try and get some sales and then when that works you pay down the cards.

so obama did the spending part and turned the economy around and if we are smart at some point we will switch from investing in growth to paying down debt. so we could go straight from spending to debt reduction.

however, in japan if they did a huge tax cut after the economy had recovered that could get even more growth, which is currently happening and if it doesn't end up being a net surplus you can always roll that stuff back. but you might end up in a good situation. at the end of the day if it does slow down, then the democrats will get a chance to try something different and i think it's a good thing that different people are getting to try some different ideas out.

To evaluate Trump's economic performance, you have to also analyse the potential impact of all of his policies years from now. Beyond the initial sugar high of tax cuts for the stock market, he's done very little beyond create a lot of instability with his trade policies.

yeah, john oliver had a pretty good counter argument on the trade policies but i can't help but think have a few years of aggressive policies might benefit us in the long run but it will hurt a lot of people in the short run. it seems like we could find our way to better trade deals in the future just because trump is going so extreme now that china and others might not want to risk that again. i'm not aware of a historical example here, it'd be nice if there was one to look at.

Besides, if you're gonna vote based on the economy, shouldn't you also take into account how they would fare during an economic crisis? Is Trump really the person you would want to be at the wheel if/when shit hits the fan?

yeah, that's a point i always make to my mother in law. he hasn't really been tested yet. he's taken a good situation that obama created and made it better. i'm not sure he could have done what obama did but maybe he could have. he's probably smart enough to know that after tax cuts and deregulation through the bush years didn't create growth and ended up causing a recession that more tax cuts isn't the answer. it's kind of hard to say but there are so many historical examples of using spending to spur growth going all the way back to ceaser so it's not like you have to look hard to figure out that it works. it's just if you have the balls to go against your base and he definitely got balls.
Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Hairy Ballsagna on August 24, 2018, 12:35:36 PM
i'm not sure how you can evaluate how good an elected official is doing without taking into account the platform they ran on and the people who voted for them and how well they are doing in that context. this country is divided and both sides deserver a turn running things and trying out their ideas no matter how shitty the ideas are. probably not a great idea to never give the side of the country that loves guns a turn running things.

Serious question... why?

Because itís a democracy and peaceful transitions of power is one of the best things about democracy. If youíre not anti-democracy then surely you are comfortable with both sides getting a turn running things.

Couldn't agree more. My question was more related to your wording. What do you see happening if the side "that loves guns" never gets a chance?

Civil war. Those people are heavily armed and many of them are trained by the U.S. military. Like someone else mentioned, we've already seen some domestic insurgency by armed militias. It sounds crazy but think about it Ė if Trump didn't win we could be incredibly close to a civil war along the lines of Syria's, with an incredible amount of loss and death.

Title: Re: America has jumped the shark and Trump is going to be re-elected
Post by: Pigeon on August 25, 2018, 06:50:30 PM
if Trump didn't win we could be incredibly close to a civil war along the lines of Syria's, with an incredible amount of loss and death.
???

Also, John McCain died recently, but I didn’t want to make a thread.