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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: squintharder on August 15, 2018, 09:47:39 PM
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First off, I like the team and the company aesthetic but I've had a few sets of bearings and they have NEVER lasted me very long. like all of a sudden they just turn to shit. bones reds are just a reliable classic
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I wonder why NHS never offered unshielded hubs for their Santa Cruz mountain bikes. I guess cyclists just can't appreciate the sound of dirt running through raw bearings like skateboarders do.
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Bones swiss.
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another shit bearing brand built around marketing rather than good products that people would skate on there own merits
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Had a set of g3s that were fine, got the Raws when they first came out and they stopped rolling within a week. Dmed then on insta and shitty ass manager Sean vandyke went ghost on me when I sent him my receipt and a video of the bearings. Fuck nhs
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Had the G3s. Cages broke on half of them skating flat for a few months. Fucking pieces of shit. Meanwhile I’ve been running the same set of Reds in one of my setups for years now and they’re still going strong. Clean and lube every now and then and all is well again.
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I bet the riders skate bones
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I bet the riders skate bones
No way, haven't you seen Gravette's hat?
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Had some of the G3's, which were pretty decent but after a year they pretty much all seized up within the space of a couple days. Tried to take them out my wheels and they just exploded due to the cages being broken.
Back to Bones Swiss which have lasted me years with no issue
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I had the G3's, and the cages all broke apart after about 2 weeks, so it sounds like that's pretty common with Bronson. Definitely junk.
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Nearly got 2 months out of a set of G3's before they self destructed.
My hype-o-meter was given a hard reset. Modus or Swiss only from now on.
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I had the G3's, and the cages all broke apart after about 2 weeks.
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They rolled great for 2 weeks then they started to feel like i had left them in the rain or something.
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Have you all been popping the shields? Mine have been great thus far, had them over a year.
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i've been skating bronson raws for 2 months and they are great
almost time to change them because i throw my bearings out every time i get new wheels
why the fuck
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i've been skating bronson raws for 2 months and they are great
almost time to change them because i throw my bearings out every time i get new wheels
why the fuck
Boards for Bros is better than the garbage. Just saying. It's the little things.
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G3's were garbage. The shields were so flimsy that they would flex, make contact with the balls and stop the bearing from rolling.
I've been skating the Raws for 8 months and they're great. they come with a super thin dry lube that wears out after a week or two. you then just add 2 drops of either speed cream or the bronson ceramic lube and they're good for months.
I've cleaned and lubed them twice and they're showing no signs of slowing down. Not as fast as Swiss 6 but still pretty damn great.
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i watched a kid try to open a new pack of them recently, the packaging design is so awful its like impossible to get the bearings off of that plastic stick they are placed on in.
(http://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/images/bronson-speed-co-g3-skateboard-bearings-p23446-57506_image.jpg)
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I had the ones in that case^
Cost more than Reds, died sooner. Not a fan.
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another shit bearing brand built around marketing rather than good products that people would skate on there own merits
exactly
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You're smoking homie. I've skated G3's which were super good and lasted me forever. I'm recently riding the Raws which I've been on same set for past 5 months now, they rule. Haters gonna hate.
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You're smoking homie. I've skated G3's which were super good and lasted me forever. I'm recently riding the Raws which I've been on same set for past 5 months now, they rule. Haters gonna hate.
>thread full of people with the majority having bad experiences
>HATERS GONNA HATE
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You can skate reds for like 9000 years why would you do anything else
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You're smoking homie. I've skated G3's which were super good and lasted me forever. I'm recently riding the Raws which I've been on same set for past 5 months now, they rule. Haters gonna hate.
I think it's part of the free market economy that if you pay more than twice as much for a sub-par or, being kind, equivalent product you are allowed to voice your displeasure. It is not hatred, it is an anecdotal cautionary tale.
From your statement "forever" ended 5 months ago?
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You can skate reds for like 9000 years why would you do anything else
are the reds in the u.s different than the ones in europe?
because reds are complete trash
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To each their own, but I actually like cleaning my bearings and can't imagine throwing them away if they still worked.
Speaking of, bones swiss 6 ball gets my vote.
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You can skate reds for like 9000 years why would you do anything else
are the reds in the u.s different than the ones in europe?
because reds are complete trash
Fake reds. In Brazil is pretty hard to find original reds.
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$10 Mini logo bearings > $50 Bronson Raws
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I bought theses like a week ago, and so far they're just as good as bones swiss but who knows what they'll be like in another week.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072S16CJG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Bones Swiss don't have to use all of this image marketing, they just make the best bearings on the planet. Undeniable for decades.
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Bones Swiss don't have to use all of this image marketing, they just make the best bearings on the planet. Undeniable for decades.
truth
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I've had the raws for like a year in my 49mm wheels and they still haul ass. Have g3's in my cruiser and they still haul ass too. Went from bones swiss and bones six balls. I have no complaints.
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Riding a pair now and even though they haven't blown or seem slow with a wheel spin, riding them feels slower than most. I will always reminisce about riding Bones Ceramics that I got at cost from a shop. I had those fuckers for a good 5 years. Nothing will ever come close to those
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I guess I was just super lucky. I've had a set of G3's for about a year now and I can't find anything faster for the money. Due to Bronsons getting so much hate on here it made me paranoid that maybe they were actually crappy and I just "thought" they were fast or rolling good. I'm not that good and I'm 43 so I'm not exactly putting my bearings through any extremes (other than holding my fat ass up and rolling it around). I had Reds before these and after about 8 months they started to seize up (and I clean and lube them at least monthly). I have Indy blacks and Rush 7's in rotation too. They are both okay but neither is as fast as the Bronsons. I'm sure swiss or ceramics are faster and may last longer but they are also way more expensive. They may lock up on me tomorrow, but so far every other bearing I've tried wasn't as fast.
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We should throw Andale bearings in the shit pile too if they aren't already.
Thought I would switch it up from the Reds and try the Blues, first set lasted like 1-2months before exploding on a powerslide. For some reason I had bought 2 sets and the second set lasted 1 session before the cage came off.
Although the Andale Blues felt a lil smoother and a tad faster, definitely lacked in quality. Was going to try Bronson's but after talking to some shop guys ended up just sticking with the classic Reds.
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Shit, I didn't realize anyone actually rode anything other Bones. I remember playing around with different brands when I was younger, but after I hit 18 it has been nothing but Bones bearings and Bones wheels.
i don't really like putting old dirty bearings in new wheels. and i don't like to clean bearings at all.
Like SHIREFLIP I can't imagine throwing shit away instead of trying to clean or fix it (or donating it).
I saved myself 300 dollars when Apple told me I needed to throw away/replace my phone because of broken pin. I took that shit to the hole in the wall computer store down the road. The owner spent 5 minutes screwing around with it and it works again. He didn't even charge me (fuck you Apple).
This thing is silly, but it is a quick and easy way to clean a set of bearings. They feel pretty much new afterwards.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/414JAXDT3TL._SL500_AC_SS350_.jpg)
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Bronson Raws are the shit and have been on mine for over 8 months now. Best bearing out in my opinion. I wouldn't fuck with the G2s or G3s....I skated both and seemed no better than mini logos. But the raws are the shit.
But if we're having a conversation about bearings... then we're all idiots.
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The raws are just the G3 without shields, correct me if I am wrong. Riding bearings without shields is going to make your bearings last no time at all. It's well documented, Bones themselves even tell you not to do it.
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Bought one set of 'em a couple years back... They were total trash.
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You're smoking homie. I've skated G3's which were super good and lasted me forever. I'm recently riding the Raws which I've been on same set for past 5 months now, they rule. Haters gonna hate.
I think it's part of the free market economy that if you pay more than twice as much for a sub-par or, being kind, equivalent product you are allowed to voice your displeasure. It is not hatred, it is an anecdotal cautionary tale.
From your statement "forever" ended 5 months ago?
Nah, G3's got rotated into my morning coffee cruzer when I got the Raw's 5 months back. Ran them for over a year and 1/2 so wanted to give the Raws a go. So ya forever and counting.
As for sub par or equivalent I've broken just about every kind of bearing. Ran swiss for years and broke many sets over the years. Does Swiss suck, no. When you skate you break shit. That's the nature of it. There's a lot of factors at play when it happens. G3 and Raws are both cheaper and just as fast if not faster than Swiss so makes sense to me.
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Bronson Marketing Co.
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I swear by Black Panther ceramics. They roll really good and cost a fraction of the price of bones ceramics.
I put them on par with Bones Swiss 6. I can not really decide. It took a while to get used to silent bearings but that smooth roll is just too good. The BP's are like 20 or 10 dollars cheaper than the swiss 6 though.
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We should throw Andale bearings in the shit pile too if they aren't already.
Skated the ABEC 7s and the Daewon. Absolute trash. They felt sticky, sluggish, and seized to move in a short period of time.
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The raws are just the G3 without shields, correct me if I am wrong. Riding bearings without shields is going to make your bearings last no time at all. It's well documented, Bones themselves even tell you not to do it.
This is why road vehicles have sealed bearings. You could't market cheap automobile bearings in a hot sauce bottle to car guys. A skateboard bearing, on the other hand, is less than an inch from the ground and needs all the protection from dirt it can get. Search the threads for "kingpin broke I need new trucks" and you'll see that skateboarders aren't the most mechanically minded bunch.
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The raws are just the G3 without shields, correct me if I am wrong. Riding bearings without shields is going to make your bearings last no time at all. It's well documented, Bones themselves even tell you not to do it.
The since they lack shields there are no grooves in the race and they supposedly fixed the cage (they did this on rev 2 of the G3s) to not be shit and the Tungsten coating, if that's really a thing, that's it tho....oh and the added "Audible Speed Technology" ::) ::) ::) ::)
I'll occasionally run a still functional, cleaned and lubed once, set of launch G3s in some larger wheels mainly park use with only minor impacts (not hucking myself); they've never gotten close to the speed of freshly cleaned/lubed or bone dry/dirty Swiss 6 (with shields) but they've also not fallen apart.
If the swiss ever die, which I doubt as I've nearly two full sets to rotate slower ones out, I'll pick up some black panthers, still some of the best out there.
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got given some raws and they went to complete shit pretty quick, skated and sounded like they were full of sand. never seemed that special when they were new either. i swear they're like £50 or something stupid as well? i would've been pissed if i'd paid for them
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I dont understand why anyone would ride anything but Swiss. Maybe they are double the price of these wack Bronsons, but they last 4 times as long.
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never was a huge fan of bronson bearings.
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You can skate reds for like 9000 years why would you do anything else
are the reds in the u.s different than the ones in europe?
because reds are complete trash
Gotta agree with this. I have never bought a set of reds without one or two of the bearings being shit right from the start.
Bad quality control. I guess if you buy 2 packs at the same time you might get a good set. Bones Swiss are worth the extra money since they last for years if you clean them.
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Should have gotten reds but got Bronson recently. I have swiss/swiss 6 in both my boards so whatevs. I got the Bronson's because I like the metal case and I got em for cheap.
Probably would have been better with reds...but that metal case bro. I'm gonna put my weed in there man
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I was unfortunately suckered into buying Bronson Raws last year, when it was peak lockdown and they were literally the only bearings in stock (and I was trying to spend money locally, foolishly thinking Covid would be bad for local skateshops). They lasted about 2 weeks before they stopped spinning well. I took them out, cleaned then in Acetone, blasted them clean with compressed air and relubed with sewing machine oil, but it wasn't enough. The lack of shields meant that large particles of debris had pitted the races, then spun like shit forever. I think three or four were salvageable, and they're still in my skate part box in case I need them.
The thing that sucks is that I knew better than to buy something as gimmicky as shieldless bearings, but did it anyway, at like 1/2 the cost of Bones Swiss.
For real, stop fucking with cheap bearings every six months and just buy the good ones.
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Have been skating Bronson for a few years, every set I've ever got are still rolling or usable. Currently have the Leo Baker G3 and they're great, never had a issue with any.
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I've always appreciated Bones Bearings marketing. No signature bearings, no buying a team, and only relying on the quality of their products. Bones Swiss will always be the best bearings made. I love how Vern will put riders for other brands on blast when they ask for a Bones box. Also, Bones Swiss and made in Switzerland. All other bearings that market them as Swiss are made in China. There's no such thing as China Switzerland.
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What’s really cool is that if you’re a young girl skater no matter how good or bad you are vern will give you free swiss
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We should throw Andale bearings in the shit pile too if they aren't already.
Skated the ABEC 7s and the Daewon. Absolute trash. They felt sticky, sluggish, and seized to move in a short period of time.
Okay, I'm pro-Bones/anti-Bronson all the way BUT I've been using an old set of Andale Marc Johnson Swiss bearings in my cruiser wheels for over 3 years now!!!!! I thought for sure that these things would die super fast but I'm pleasantly surprised.
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You're smoking homie. I've skated G3's which were super good and lasted me forever. I'm recently riding the Raws which I've been on same set for past 5 months now, they rule. Haters gonna hate.
>thread full of people with the majority having bad experiences
>HATERS GONNA HATE
Loud Minority
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I've always appreciated Bones Bearings marketing. No signature bearings, no buying a team, and only relying on the quality of their products. Bones Swiss will always be the best bearings made.
I also feel like every time I've ever seen a pro skater setting up their own board, if they lack a bearing sponsor, they are using Bones Swiss presumably purchased at retail.
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Bronsons aren’t as bad as people are making them to seem. No, they’re not Swiss tier, but they are definitely better than reds. I’ve had some G3’s for almost two years and they are fast as can be (with minimal maintenance). I also have a set of G2’s on my cruiser that have been going strong for a good year and a half. I can’t speak on the longevity of them, because I’ve had some Swiss last me 6+ years. If you need a mid-level bearing that’s better than reds, but don’t want to spend the money on Swiss, G3’s are a solid option. Definitely worth the $5-$10 over reds.
Reds < G2 < G3 < Swiss
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I got thrown a pair of G3’s right when they came out in maybe 2017 and rode them for a couple years. On my backup board now and all still work well.
Slap hates these bearings because they’re branding is the least shalom most redneck shit.
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I got thrown a pair of G3’s right when they came out in maybe 2017 and rode them for a couple years. On my backup board now and all still work well.
Slap hates these bearings because they’re branding is the least shalom most redneck shit.
its because i only hear good things about them seldomly. like 1 or 2/10. personal experience is key sure but if it seems like a freak accident to get a set that doesnt freeze up in a month then probably not even gonna bother. i do like the little tin case though its a bonus
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I have had the $80 sets of Bones Swiss Bearings and never had any issue. i even had the ceramics once and they were insane... could have just been the wheels but i rmember people getting on my board and being like wtf this is FAST . i left my board in the car all winter with the $80 Swiss ones and they are kinda rusted on the outside but they still spin amazing. i havent done anything to them other than wiped the dirt out with paper towel dry.
This dude who is heavy into downhill told me that bearings do not matter , the world record for speed was set on https://www.switchbacklongboards.com/collections/bearings/products/zealous-built-in-integrated-bearings-classic
$20 set of bearings. but he said you absolutely need ot use the lube on them they need to be worked in and dont come good out of the box... which any solid set of bones will. I remember skating reds back in the day in the early 2000s and it is pretty clear cut difference between Reds and the $80 Swiss to me. I am skeptical to use those Zealous for Street skating because i dont know if they can handle the impact as well. i remmeber that being a problem with shittier bearings in the past. havent had one blow out on me ever since i siwtched to swiss.
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reds used to be way better. never used to have that many problems with them but they kind of suck now. been on mini logos the last year+ or so. only had to replace 1 or 2 which is not the worst i guess
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Bronson Raws are the best bearing I’ve ever ridden in the 17 years I’ve been skating. I don’t ride for them nor do I care for their marketing but I can undeniably say that after years for riding Swiss it’s more cost efficient to use Raws. Raws look feel and sound better out the box and I have never broken a set. I highly recommend them
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i might. still got a full set+ about 6 but after
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could have told you that, swiss or bust.
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Bronson Raws are the best bearing I’ve ever ridden in the 17 years I’ve been skating. I don’t ride for them nor do I care for their marketing but I can undeniably say that after years for riding Swiss it’s more cost efficient to use Raws. Raws look feel and sound better out the box and I have never broken a set. I highly recommend them
Haha they look and sound better?
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Bronson Raws are the best bearing I’ve ever ridden in the 17 years I’ve been skating. I don’t ride for them nor do I care for their marketing but I can undeniably say that after years for riding Swiss it’s more cost efficient to use Raws. Raws look feel and sound better out the box and I have never broken a set. I highly recommend them
Haha they look and sound better?
AuDiBLe sOuNd tEcHNoLgY.
I tried Bronson. They just aren’t durable. A buddy of mine got the ceramics and he was stoked and I didn’t wanna be like damn homie you wasted $80. So I didn’t say anything thing they price would reflect higher quality. Less than a month he was wondering if his set was faulty but I’m thinking nah that’s just Bronson.
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Bronson Raws are the best bearing I’ve ever ridden in the 17 years I’ve been skating. I don’t ride for them nor do I care for their marketing but I can undeniably say that after years for riding Swiss it’s more cost efficient to use Raws. Raws look feel and sound better out the box and I have never broken a set. I highly recommend them
Haha they look and sound better?
My top 2 concerns with my bearings are the same as his. Appearance and audio but most bearings won’t pass my AA test!
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I wasn't impressed with Bronson Raws either. I've never been a shield popper so I wasn't sure what to expect. The sound and spin test are fantastic but after two sessions, they felt like they were already on the brink of death. I ended up giving them to the homie and now I ride Rush Swiss bearings.
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All I can say is i don’t care enough for Bronson bearings but I feel spitfire bearings are just the worst!!
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All I can say is i don’t care enough for Bronson bearings but I feel spitfire bearings are just the worst!!
Spit and indy bearings are the only ones ive had bad luck with. Everything else is pretty indistinguishable
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All I can say is i don’t care enough for Bronson bearings but I feel spitfire bearings are just the worst!!
Spit and indy bearings are the only ones ive had bad luck with. Everything else is pretty indistinguishable
i liked indy bearings till they broke apart on me
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reds used to be way better. never used to have that many problems with them but they kind of suck now. been on mini logos the last year+ or so. only had to replace 1 or 2 which is not the worst i guess
They sell reds in a 2 pack for a reason. Consider yourself lucky if you get two good ones in that pack.
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Bronson. A successful marketing company project for many pros to ride that couldn’t get on Bones is my belief. Their ads and team are a solid pull for customers, but their product falls short.
Bronson just isn’t that good. Had a couple sets and they slowed down/conked out much faster than any Reds or Mini Logo sets I’ve had. Even some FKD Lutzka bearings I had skated better lmao
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reds used to be way better. never used to have that many problems with them but they kind of suck now. been on mini logos the last year+ or so. only had to replace 1 or 2 which is not the worst i guess
They sell reds in a 2 pack for a reason. Consider yourself lucky if you get two good ones in that pack.
They sell reds in a two pack for roller skaters. But I agree, reds do suck and blow out really fast.
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It seems the only good quality product to come out of NHS are Independent trucks.
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reds used to be way better. never used to have that many problems with them but they kind of suck now. been on mini logos the last year+ or so. only had to replace 1 or 2 which is not the worst i guess
They sell reds in a 2 pack for a reason. Consider yourself lucky if you get two good ones in that pack.
They sell reds in a two pack for roller skaters. But I agree, reds do suck and blow out really fast.
they actually sell 16 packs for them. even says right on their website "they know occasionally bearings will fail" they are just spares for whoever needs them.
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reds used to be way better. never used to have that many problems with them but they kind of suck now. been on mini logos the last year+ or so. only had to replace 1 or 2 which is not the worst i guess
They sell reds in a 2 pack for a reason. Consider yourself lucky if you get two good ones in that pack.
They sell reds in a two pack for roller skaters. But I agree, reds do suck and blow out really fast.
they actually sell 16 packs for them. even says right on their website "they know occasionally bearings will fail" they are just spares for whoever needs them.
Ah I thought you meant two sets. Haven’t seen the two bearing sets
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just bring back fkd/hkd’s and i’ll be alright. until then, swiss forever
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reds used to be way better. never used to have that many problems with them but they kind of suck now. been on mini logos the last year+ or so. only had to replace 1 or 2 which is not the worst i guess
They sell reds in a 2 pack for a reason. Consider yourself lucky if you get two good ones in that pack.
They sell reds in a two pack for roller skaters. But I agree, reds do suck and blow out really fast.
they actually sell 16 packs for them. even says right on their website "they know occasionally bearings will fail" they are just spares for whoever needs them.
The 16 packs are for “quad” skaters: 8 wheels/pair o’ skates.
Still… them Reds kinda suck. Not Bronson bad, but still… yeesh!
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reds used to be way better. never used to have that many problems with them but they kind of suck now. been on mini logos the last year+ or so. only had to replace 1 or 2 which is not the worst i guess
They sell reds in a 2 pack for a reason. Consider yourself lucky if you get two good ones in that pack.
They sell reds in a two pack for roller skaters. But I agree, reds do suck and blow out really fast.
they actually sell 16 packs for them. even says right on their website "they know occasionally bearings will fail" they are just spares for whoever needs them.
Still… them Reds kinda suck. Not Bronson bad, but still… yeesh!
By "them" I was referring to the "quad skaters" as I was referencing the quote above mine.
The 2 packs can be seen on the website, the bones bearings one, since they have a separate bones and powell peralta website as well for some reason. Kinda thought it was all the same.
I haven't tried bronson but I would imagine them to be the same quality as every other bearing being sold in that class. Swiss is the correct answer if you need bearings to last. I don't understand the raw concept.
It seems like they just want you to buy more bearings than necessary as I'm sure a unprotected unloved bearing will fail more often. because friction and stuff.
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Just bought some Bronson G3’s based on this thread.
Thanks for the recommendation.
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I wonder why NHS never offered unshielded hubs for their Santa Cruz mountain bikes. I guess cyclists just can't appreciate the sound of dirt running through raw bearings like skateboarders do.
Santa Cruz bikes have nothing to do with NHS.
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I wonder why NHS never offered unshielded hubs for their Santa Cruz mountain bikes. I guess cyclists just can't appreciate the sound of dirt running through raw bearings like skateboarders do.
Santa Cruz bikes have nothing to do with NHS.
The only thing sorta related is that Rob Roskopp is a co-founder
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Bronson Raw are way better than reds, ya'll trippin
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I bought these baby blue Girl bearings which were tight... No way you could find those again...
Hot take: bearings don't matter that much.
I did fux with that Emerica Bronson collab. I wanted the hoodie for sure... Even though I've never skated the bearings.
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Pay the money for Swiss ceramics. Don’t lose your board and you have a set of bearings for life. Clean them once a year.
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Bronson Raws are the best bearing I’ve ever ridden in the 17 years I’ve been skating. I don’t ride for them nor do I care for their marketing but I can undeniably say that after years for riding Swiss it’s more cost efficient to use Raws. Raws look feel and sound better out the box and I have never broken a set. I highly recommend them
Haha they look and sound better?
Yes they look, sound, and perform better imo. If u don’t care how your bearings sound then I guess I’m just a big olé loser skate nerd. Y’all love to make fun of people who don’t agree with you and that’s why most skaters suck. Keep spending 70+ dollars for Swiss for all I care. Follow da crowd and drink da juice :)
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Yea, Bronson's suck. Would like to see those skate science bearing guys explain exactly why they do.
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TRASH
Thought they fit the board at the time
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just bring back fkd/hkd’s and i’ll be alright. until then, swiss forever
FKD - nah son
HKD - yeah son
Speed Demons were trash tier. Pig Speedster and Girl Gold bearings were so underrated back in the day too.
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Reds and chuck em after 4 months or so.
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Tried Bronson G3 a year ago, was kind of disappointed for reasons I cannot remember and went back to Bones Swiss.
Recently the Bones started to give up on me, skating through winter might have taken its toll. Since prices for a new set had skyrocketed, I put the G3 back on.
To my surprise, they are really fast with a consistent spin across all bearings. I’ll stick with them for a while and see how they hold up.
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I wonder why NHS never offered unshielded hubs for their Santa Cruz mountain bikes. I guess cyclists just can't appreciate the sound of dirt running through raw bearings like skateboarders do.
Santa Cruz bikes have nothing to do with NHS.
No shit
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just bring back fkd/hkd’s and i’ll be alright. until then, swiss forever
FKD - nah son
HKD - yeah son
Speed Demons were trash tier. Pig Speedster and Girl Gold bearings were so underrated back in the day too.
I remember I had a set of HKD 7s many years ago that lasted forever. Popped them shields off, put ‘em in my wheels, and they were good to go; and I didn’t even break a bearing til like a year in maybe. I think they still make ‘em now, I had a set like just last year but they definitely changed em up, they definitely don’t last nearly as long now.
FKDs always started out strong but then they’d shit out real quick.
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Gotta use those bearing spacers, Pals
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Great bearings are great bearings, you can add life to them but it all depends what speed u like to ride. .Reds have lasted me forever, I like my Swiss setup. I had some Pig bearings once and they were really good, Lucky bearings were trash, I also heard the Black Panthers from Shortys were great
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