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Title: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: ex1t2 on August 20, 2018, 08:00:37 AM
Hey all, new here. I've always done my heelflips with the toe of my shoe, rather than the actual heel of my foot.  I end up getting wear around the pinky toe spot on my front shoe from them.

Anyone have any idea what these are called, or if its a horrible habit and I should re-learn to do them with my actual heel of my shoe.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: Pigeon on August 20, 2018, 09:02:08 AM
kickflip...?
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: straight on August 20, 2018, 09:06:00 AM
jeremy wray heelflips his kickflips
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: SneakySecrets on August 20, 2018, 09:09:22 AM
I think you just have yourself a little bit of a weirdheelflip.  I think everyone does them a bit differently.
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: ex1t2 on August 20, 2018, 10:02:14 AM
kickflip...?

Its the direction of a heelflip though, just using the same part of your shoe as you would with a kickflip.
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on August 20, 2018, 10:02:35 AM
I used to skate with this kid who did heel flips in kickflip position. He would pop and kick the board with his toe like one would kick a foot ball and they worked, strangest damn thing... you’re not alone
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: Baron Samedi on August 20, 2018, 11:49:57 AM
Here's the answer of what to call your modified heelflip.

weirdheelflip
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: Dad you're embarrassing me on August 20, 2018, 01:24:09 PM
Haha I do this. Was actually trying to relearn them last night the proper way. I think if you square your foot up and do the same action you end up flicking with your heel?
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: nosneb on August 20, 2018, 01:35:11 PM
My friend heelflips with a proper kickflip foot position and his shoes get the typical heelflip scuffs.
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: ex1t2 on August 21, 2018, 08:04:23 AM
Haha I do this. Was actually trying to relearn them last night the proper way. I think if you square your foot up and do the same action you end up flicking with your heel?

I've tried that before and usaully end up giving up after a few minutes.  I've been doing it this way for so long my flick is pretty consistent every time so I doing it the "proper" way frustrates me haha.
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: Mystical Leader on August 23, 2018, 05:52:53 AM
I do this too! Because of that I can sort of do heelflip one foots/ollie norths? or some thing smiliar to that, I can also do them with kickflips.
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: Jollyoli on August 23, 2018, 06:06:12 AM
I am jealous of your flexible ankles.
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: Frank on August 24, 2018, 03:27:57 AM
whatever works for you, sounds uncomfortable tho. i've seen heelflips done this way. also saw a video of a dude doing this and kickflip with his heel. think that was just to prove it could be done.
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: JB on August 24, 2018, 07:00:43 AM
will one of you weirdos post a clip of you doing a heelflip with your toe because my brain is not able to paint this mental picture and i need to see it.
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: corto on August 26, 2018, 03:43:31 PM
I think heelflips look much better when done with the toe. Plus there's more control in the flick.
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: quadcuff on August 29, 2018, 07:57:28 AM
i've always hung my toe off but ya know, to each their own
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: lampshade on September 02, 2018, 04:37:20 PM
I point the toe of my front foot slightly toward the back when setting up for a heel. 
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: Krooked antihero on September 03, 2018, 06:09:38 AM
will one of you weirdos post a clip of you doing a heelflip with your toe because my brain is not able to paint this mental picture and i need to see it.
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: redcurb12 on September 06, 2018, 11:41:00 AM
i hang my toes of a little bit and flick with the ball of my foot.. not my heel. i think that's pretty normal? you actually flick with ur toe? that's weird but i guess it works for you! i'm curious to see what it looks like
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: E on September 06, 2018, 12:34:35 PM
Yeah, I come in here every day looking for the footage of this weird ass heelflip and have been disappointed. Anyone got proof this is real?
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: HangtenNoseblunt on September 06, 2018, 01:10:06 PM
i could film what they are talking about its kinda like when beginners kickflip down instead of out.

for my nollieheel i put my toes lined up with the edge of the board and use the ball of my foot to force the board forward and down as opposed to accross and out like a normal heelflip.
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: HangtenNoseblunt on September 06, 2018, 01:12:58 PM
if they are talking like a forwardflip taken one step further and kickfliping the heelflip side of the board thats just fucked up
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: redcurb12 on September 06, 2018, 03:32:31 PM
i could film what they are talking about its kinda like when beginners kickflip down instead of out.

for my nollieheel i put my toes lined up with the edge of the board and use the ball of my foot to force the board forward and down as opposed to accross and out like a normal heelflip.

vids or it didnt happen
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: HangtenNoseblunt on September 07, 2018, 08:14:18 AM
is it that hard to imagine? on a standard heelflip your front foot toes will be pointed slightly up as your foot leaves the board. for ball-of-foot heelflip toes are pointed down the whole time.

another way to explain it is to get into primo you can rotate the board heelflip direction by using the balls of you feet. its the same thing but with popping
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: E on September 07, 2018, 08:21:52 AM
So still no footage? Someone deliver.
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: HangtenNoseblunt on September 07, 2018, 08:26:30 AM
OP is talking about pinky wear from doing heelflips so i think he is talking about something different than the people using the ball of their foot against the concave
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: Mystical Leader on September 11, 2018, 06:05:36 AM
I might have to step up if nobody else will do it.. I guarantee it will look shit. Where can I upload the video so that I don't have to open an account?
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: Smithy on September 11, 2018, 06:56:09 AM
I grew up around a dude who did the weird toe heel flip, but had that shit amazing. Totally perfect. Another strange thing I thought was that, that same dude had nollie tres perfect. But almost no other flat ground tricks..
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: JB on September 11, 2018, 11:05:27 AM
I might have to step up if nobody else will do it.. I guarantee it will look shit. Where can I upload the video so that I don't have to open an account?

do you have instagram? put it on that.

i still can't picture anyone flipping a heelflip without using the heel of their foot to kick the board around.
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: Mystical Leader on September 13, 2018, 01:30:27 AM
http://vimeo.com/289637717 (http://vimeo.com/289637717)

ask and you shall receive..

Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: Krooked antihero on September 13, 2018, 06:20:53 AM
Hermanni, nice👌 Also, how the fuck you’ve learned to heelflip that way? Like, do you always heelflip that way of just for fun?
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: Mystical Leader on September 13, 2018, 11:15:27 AM
Hermanni, nice👌 Also, how the fuck you’ve learned to heelflip that way? Like, do you always heelflip that way of just for fun?

I don't know, just one day I thought that why heelflips are generally so ugly is because your front toes are hanging outside.. And why kickflips are more beautiful is that they enclose the flick so why not try implement that in to a heelflip too..


Also I can't do them the "real" way..
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: JB on September 16, 2018, 11:20:55 AM
im going to need the 4k super slow mo version to actually figure out how you did that. it looked nice though.
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: Beeker on September 16, 2018, 06:08:10 PM
I can kinda do them like that after I was trying to learn Neen heelflips. Problem is it utterly destroys the ollie spot on my shoe to the point where it's not even worth it cause I'll have a hole after doing 10 of them.
Title: Re: Heelflip with toe of shoe
Post by: hurv on September 16, 2018, 06:48:18 PM
 When i was first learning them, Stevie Williams had a how to in one of the mags on heelflips. He said after the pop, push down with the ball of the foot and slide it toward the nose. Thats the technique i still use to this day.