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Title: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: rob on August 22, 2018, 12:53:39 AM
Just because Ive been trying to get some skating back in my schedule and figured out after all the madness of products and sizes what actually works for me(deck size, truck size, wheel duro, shoe fit)

What do you guys prefer? Your wheels/axle sticking out the sides of your deck or under

I like flipping my board so keeping the axles under for prime flip-ability for me
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: the snake on August 22, 2018, 01:06:09 AM
neither, wheels got to be flesh with the edge of my board
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: DISTANT RUMOURS on August 22, 2018, 01:36:21 AM
With Snake on this.

They have to be perfectly aligned (not that it matters though, I still suck ass at skating)
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: Xen on August 22, 2018, 04:21:52 AM
Prefer flush>in>out
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: Coolhats on August 22, 2018, 04:33:32 AM
I ride Indy 149s and will skate boards anywhere from 8”-8.5” and sometimes even the big Polar shapes. I don’t think about it much though, so it doesn’t really bother me either way. I’m sure my post will be very helpful.
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: ChuckRamone on August 22, 2018, 06:25:30 AM
axles flush with the board so the wheels are slightly in.
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: Firebert on August 22, 2018, 07:03:24 AM
neither, wheels got to be flesh with the edge of my board
Do you mean the actual edge of the wheels or the end of the axle? My axles stick out a tiny bit more than the wheels.
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: hey pickle on August 22, 2018, 07:04:37 AM
You don't know your shoe size b?
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: Hypnotoad on August 22, 2018, 07:27:23 AM
If I can look down and see axles or wheels, there is a problem.
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: Cthulhu! on August 22, 2018, 07:32:46 AM
For years I only under. 8 inch trucks on an 8.25 board for example. I've recently started going out and it just feels way better, to me anyway. 8.5 trucks on 8.25, 8.75 trucks on an 8.5 inch board. It's only .25th of a difference but in my head it feels more stable. 
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: the snake on August 22, 2018, 07:55:52 AM
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neither, wheels got to be flesh with the edge of my board
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Do you mean the actual edge of the wheels or the end of the axle? My axles stick out a tiny bit more than the wheels.
edge of the wheels, I don't fuck with thin wheels so the nuts(flush too with axles) are invisible to the human eye, 149mm with classics full on 8.25 !
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: Not Local on August 22, 2018, 08:36:38 AM
Street I like the wheels slightly tucked in. Tranny I like the wheels flush (so axles slightly longer).
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: switchbs180 on August 22, 2018, 01:51:40 PM
has anyone experiences with Indy 144's on 8.125 decks? I'm thinking about it but not sure.
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: colt cannon lunchbox on August 22, 2018, 03:05:11 PM
149s on an 8.25 is heaven
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: RossDailey on August 22, 2018, 04:07:58 PM
neither, wheels got to be flesh with the edge of my board

*flush
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: BoxStuffer on August 22, 2018, 04:31:45 PM
Prefer flush>in>out

This.
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: rob on August 22, 2018, 08:10:23 PM
So a lot of you guys like it stable and smooth

I did that too and

has anyone experiences with Indy 144's on 8.125 decks? I'm thinking about it but not sure.

I had that kind of setup, krooked 8.12 with thunder 148 and it felt nice, kinda thin so flips weren’t hard but good stability with the 8.25 trucks that weigh less than a full man size 8.5
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: shripshrapper on August 22, 2018, 08:51:27 PM
149s on an 8.25 is heaven

This is what I'm on now. I love it, but I might settle on 8.38 eventually. 8.25 is the bomb, but sometimes my size 12 feet make feel like I'm on my toes.

Not sure if it's just a psych thing, but having the axles just slightly stick out beyond the rail makes things feel more stable when running things loose. Deck flush with the wheels, and nuts/axle slightly over feels the best IMO.
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: se7en3two on August 23, 2018, 06:17:39 AM
So a lot of you guys like it stable and smooth

I did that too and

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has anyone experiences with Indy 144's on 8.125 decks? I'm thinking about it but not sure.
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I had that kind of setup, krooked 8.12 with thunder 148 and it felt nice, kinda thin so flips weren’t hard but good stability with the 8.25 trucks that weigh less than a full man size 8.5

I've run Indy 144's and currently Thunder 148 Team Hollow Lights on 8.125-8.25's.

Flush axle and stable with both. Obviously a tad lower and lighter with Thunders...
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: baustin on August 23, 2018, 06:31:04 AM
Always been flush or slightly in for me, but I am tempted to try Thunder 148s on an 8.125 since people say they're better than 147s in some ways.
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: sharkin on August 23, 2018, 06:43:10 AM
I've done 8.38 on 149s for my "small" setup for a while now

wheels stay flush and the axles poke out slightly, works real well with the DLX full shapes, but other pointier shapes works too
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: switchbs180 on August 23, 2018, 03:17:39 PM
So a lot of you guys like it stable and smooth

I did that too and

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has anyone experiences with Indy 144's on 8.125 decks? I'm thinking about it but not sure.
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I had that kind of setup, krooked 8.12 with thunder 148 and it felt nice, kinda thin so flips weren’t hard but good stability with the 8.25 trucks that weigh less than a full man size 8.5


thanks for the response mate. I can only ride thunders with risers that's why I'm gettin Indy's. Fit perfectly for 54 mm wheels
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: SneakySecrets on August 23, 2018, 08:21:02 PM
If I can look down and see axles or wheels, there is a problem.

I think in one of the early nine club episodes, they talk about Koston riding a setup with his wheels poking out a little bit. 

I’ve tried it once and it felt like it fucked up my flip tricks a little.  I’m sure I would have gotten used to it eventually, but said fuck it and went back to flush.
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: CrumblingInfrastructure on August 23, 2018, 08:33:05 PM
I've done 8.38 on 149s for my "small" setup for a while now

wheels stay flush and the axles poke out slightly, works real well with the DLX full shapes, but other pointier shapes works too
Ha!
8.38 Real Full w/ 149s on 55mm wheels feel huge to me! I have one set up that has pretty much just become the homie board.

I have a weird fear of skating and seeing the axle nut/wheel underneath me. I randomly tried setting up my 149s on a 7.75 thinking it would not be a huge deal. Terrible idea.
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: Thomas on August 24, 2018, 12:24:00 AM
Ace 44 on 8.25, so the axle must stick out a little (8.35 width according Ace website).
Wheels are flush.
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: Krooked antihero on August 24, 2018, 12:31:20 AM
I use to be very strict about that my trucks had to be flush/smaller than my board but few yrs ago I got 149’s for dirt cheap so I gave them a try on 8.25” board and nothing bad happened so I dunno...
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: hey pickle on August 24, 2018, 01:24:31 AM
129s on 8.125
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: the snake on August 24, 2018, 01:41:16 AM
129s on 8.125
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Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: Smartass on August 24, 2018, 06:42:53 AM
I've done 8.38 on 149s for my "small" setup for a while now

wheels stay flush and the axles poke out slightly, works real well with the DLX full shapes, but other pointier shapes works too
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: The Dope on August 24, 2018, 08:40:15 AM
148's on an 8.25 full shape, 52mm v5's, the nut is flush with the edge and the wheel is slightly inside, its just an all round good set up.

I had indy 139's on an 8, 8.125, 8.25.. They were chill on the smaller sizes but once I switched on 8.25 decks they kinda felt unstable going fast or on transitions.



Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: FROTHY on August 24, 2018, 03:45:02 PM
Griptape hanging off an inch or two on all sides of the board so it's like a total mudflap.
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: Nth syd bear on August 29, 2018, 09:41:53 AM
139 Indy’s on. 8 is what I am about to set up

Currently riding venture 5.0’s on a 7.75 pretty flush both

However I must add I cannot skate for shit but think my trucks are an appropriate size
Ha
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: Skateboard Shuffle on August 29, 2018, 01:50:32 PM
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neither, wheels got to be flesh with the edge of my board
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*flush

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA-968Obqm4
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: Scott C on August 30, 2018, 01:17:39 PM
Axles out.  8.6 - 8.75 w/ Indy 169's
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: Daniel on August 30, 2018, 01:46:45 PM
has anyone experiences with Indy 144's on 8.125 decks? I'm thinking about it but not sure.

The only combo I skated for a while.
Works really well
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: redcurb12 on August 30, 2018, 01:55:35 PM
i think it comes down to personal preference but there's a limit.
you wouldn't want trucks that are too small or too big.
i prefer flush but it's not 100% necessary
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: drinny on August 31, 2018, 12:25:39 AM
139 Indy’s on. 8 is what I am about to set up

Currently riding venture 5.0’s on a 7.75 pretty flush both

However I must add I cannot skate for shit but think my trucks are an appropriate size
Ha

how wide are the wheels?

my "cruiser" is venture 5's on a 7.75 with keyframes and tis nowhere near flush, I've shaved the sides down to get closer.

my normal board is 5.25 on a 7.75 (+1 extra inner washer!) and that is bang on IMO.
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: hey pickle on August 31, 2018, 04:38:28 AM
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139 Indy’s on. 8 is what I am about to set up

Currently riding venture 5.0’s on a 7.75 pretty flush both

However I must add I cannot skate for shit but think my trucks are an appropriate size
Ha
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how wide are the wheels?

my "cruiser" is venture 5's on a 7.75 with keyframes and tis nowhere near flush, I've shaved the sides down to get closer.

my normal board is 5.25 on a 7.75 (+1 extra inner washer!) and that is bang on IMO.

venture 5's are 7.6 inches wide so those trucks on and 7.75 board are pretty damn close to flush, a cunt hairs width away from flush.

venture 5.2's are 8 inches wide so the trucks will be wider than a 7.75 board, again not flush but on the other side of the spectrum (axles wider than board, percieved stability etc)

nothing wrong with either of course, just pointing out neither configuration is what id desribe as truly flush (board width and truck width exactly the same)
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: drinny on August 31, 2018, 08:40:48 AM
This guy gets it. I take "flush" as the wheel edge. I love the grip/leaning weight without slipping under cos of the compression at an angle from above.

I barely notice axle threads rolling.

If I was really ocd i'd turn my lock-ins backward and take the "edge" from the riding surface   ;D
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: patrick c. on August 31, 2018, 05:49:56 PM
For years I only under. 8 inch trucks on an 8.25 board for example. I've recently started going out and it just feels way better, to me anyway. 8.5 trucks on 8.25, 8.75 trucks on an 8.5 inch board. It's only .25th of a difference but in my head it feels more stable.
I really like this too. 
Title: Re: Wheels/axles in or out
Post by: hobochimp on September 03, 2018, 04:50:27 PM
Pretty much have exclusively skated 159s on boards ranging from 8.5-9.25 from that ive realized I like the wider truck on the 8.5 and I’d like to try out a 9 wide with 169s for a super balanced setup