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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: jacktharipper on August 25, 2018, 01:02:15 PM
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With the recent revival of baggy pants and puffy shoes, I'm wondering if it's only a matter of time before deck sizes start to come back down to the early 2000's sizes. Haven't seen any evidence of this but curious to see if people think it will happen. Thoughts?
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Yeah, probably.
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with the advent of 8.25 Indy and thunder, I’d say 8.25 is becoming the new standard, which is a comfortable split
7.75 trucks are basically toy sized, but a 7.875 deck is a cozy on 8” trucks
I don’t see many people going down to 7.75 unless they skate no tranny whatsoever
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I know that John Shanahan and Kevin Bilyeu skate 7.5-7.75
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Only for those too scared to drop in. 8.25 is good if you can't flip it that's on you.
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my experience with decks smaller than 8" is a lot of rolled ankles. Might have been ill fitting footwear but I don't have this problem anymore with 8.25". I can flip them fine with hollow Indys
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I think a lot of it comes down to how big you are, your shoe size and what you're looking to skate.
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maybe we should ask chris frantz
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i used to ride as small as 7.3 back in the day, but now 8.3 feels tiny. can't imagine going any smaller than that.
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Nah. I skated 7.875 for the last 5 years or so and everybody would look at it funny.
Recently I stepped up to an 8. Haven't decided if I'm sticking to it or not.
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It all comes down to smaller wheel base (14-14.125) for flipping an 8.25+ easier, at least for me it does
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I think is going to happen. I do think some kids are skating ridiculous size boards
How kader does it I have no idea.
8.00 8.25 depending on ur size is perfect Street/park board to me
but hey If your a decent skateboarder u gonna know what feels right for you
I am not skating something like 8.5+ it just does not feel right
Works for others though..
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Nah. I skated 7.875 for the last 5 years or so and everybody would look at it funny.
Recently I stepped up to an 8. Haven't decided if I'm sticking to it or not.
Same here. Lost a lot of flip tricks, but the tricks I still have are MUCH higher.
Can't really decide...
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Where are baggy pants and puffy shoes having a revival?
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maybe we should ask chris frantz
this
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Where are baggy pants and puffy shoes having a revival?
in john shanahans mind when he's in the fitting room playing dgk dressup
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Where are baggy pants and puffy shoes having a revival?
In the world outside of slap's message board.
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Nah.....small wheels on the other hand.....
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8.0"+ boards are going to stick around for at least little while longer, but I know I've personally been wanting to take it back down to 7.75 or so. Sucks though, all of the board companies I'd rather support don't make skinny decks these days.
Which (good) brands even currently put out <8.0"s?
Also, Ice Cream style shoes are def coming back on trend soon. Bet.
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You guys have to understand too was the narrow board happened for a reason.....it was easier to flip your board around....guys aren't really skating like that the same way. Or if you can....you don't need any help. Also...no one wants to size down trucks....
The wheels makes sense though because its super common now where people skate wheels down well under 50mm, then they have to buy new wheels and they are usually 53mm plus which is a big jump up.
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I remember going from riding 7.75 back in the day and finally making the decision to go to 8 and it felt as if I went from being in a blow up boat to then being on the titanic! Now i even find riding an 8.5 to be quite small!
I usually ride 8.6-8.75, have a us9 shoe size and skate a bit of everything
I always find it a lot harder going down a board size than it is going up!
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I have been skating for years and have been slow as death with size ups. Took me a while just to ride size 8's. Don't think im going to go up from that
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Yeah, probably.
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Just bought a 9.5 and I'm worried it was a mistake.
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I don't know how anybody skates bigger than 8.3
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Where are baggy pants and puffy shoes having a revival?
@brianwenning732
I've got size 14's and can't skate anything less than 8.5
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I don't know how anybody skates bigger than 8.3
People who dont flip their boards.
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louie barletta skates a 7.4
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I hope 8.00”+ sticks around forever. If they ever stop making 8.38x14.5” then I’m going to shit a whole house.
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8.75 forever
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Why does anyone think shoe size has anything to do with board size? Back in the 90’s and 00’s, tons of tall dudes with big feet ripped on boards well under 8” and tons of little dudes skate giant boards today. I’m a size 12 and the best skating I ever did was in puffy shoes on 7.75 decks. I skate slightly bigger boards now just because that’s what I set up after a long hiatus, but board size is based much more on personal preference and the type of skating someone is trying to do than it is on height and shoe size.
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Confirmed.
Creature used to be a "go-to" for 8.5+ decks, specifically 8.8's and it is slim pickens in their new fall releases. Lots of 8.25 and 8's though. ☹️
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You CAN get super tech with a wide board and high trucks but it's way fucking easier to do it on a 7.75 with lows and small wheels.
I think you'll see more smaller setups in the near future just because no complys are falling out of fashion again and people are going to figure out they don't need a weight belt in their setup while getting tech. (Full disclosure: I'll still be pretending like nothing past the 80's ever happened)
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no complys are falling out of fashion again
How did you come to that conclusion? I’m not saying you’re wrong.
I’ve got to believe wider boards are going to be around for a long time, because:
A) They are more versatile. Seems like there are less skaters that only skate transition or only skate street spots.
B) They really aren’t that hard to flip. Unless you are trying to do an early 90s era triple kick flip to late shove off a loading dock, a smaller board just won’t help that much.
C) It’s more badass. You are essentially saying “I don’t need any fucking help to flip my board.” If you can do all your shit on a big board. Who would want to drop down to ride a dainty 7.5 deck?
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I've been skating 8.5's the past couple years up from an 8.25, before that it was an 8 and before that was 7.75. I've got size 12 feet so makes flicking feel a whole lot better.
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Skate whatever you like,have or feels right doesn’t matter I think but I’m not core
8.25 + is to big for me..
I like 7.75-8 but I suck and like flip tricks.
I was standing on 8.25 chocolate eldy board the other day and the tail felt huge
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8.75 forever
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no complys are falling out of fashion again
How did you come to that conclusion? I’m not saying you’re wrong.
I’ve got to believe wider boards are going to be around for a long time, because:
A) They are more versatile. Seems like there are less skaters that only skate transition or only skate street spots.
B) They really aren’t that hard to flip. Unless you are trying to do an early 90s era triple kick flip to late shove off a loading dock, a smaller board just won’t help that much.
C) It’s more badass. You are essentially saying “I don’t need any fucking help to flip my board.” If you can do all your shit on a big board. Who would want to drop down to ride a dainty 7.5 deck?
One could argue that at the same time you're saying, "I need a bigger surface area to work with in order to land tricks because I'm not proficient enough to land proper." If you see older threads on this topic, plenty of people claim wide boards for the purposes of landing tricks easier. I feel being precise enough to land bolts on a thin board is pretty badass. Skaters like Wenning are definitely badass. In any case, I agree wide boards are sticking for a while.
Anyway, separate thought: Like others are saying, it's all preference. I think creating factions over which is better/more badass/whatever is useless considering skaters are the most obsessive compulsive people and will (or at least should) always stick to whatever little particular thing works best for them personally. I can say that I was able to do everything on an 8.125" that I could do on an 8" or lower, but the fraction of a difference drove me fucking nuts the entire time I had the board. I adapted, but there was no truly getting used to it.
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I just got my first 10er since 87, and I gotta say, it’s fucking fun.
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Never went bigger then a 7.75 in over 20 years. I'm impressed with kids Tre Flipping 9's
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One of my earliest boards was a superwide board with a nose, it was better than the noseless old skool board, but I was sure thankful to get a real board shortly after-streamlined symmetrical etc. Are we going back to the big boards because the established paradigm is becoming exhausted and taking on a handicap is the only way to keep it interesting? It seems that way to me...
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Over the last couple years I worked up from 7.87 to 8.25 and I’m really liking that size now. I prefer super deep concaves with steep tail/nose and it seems easier to find those as the width goes up. It also seems to work out that the combination of shapes and graphics I like always happen to be 8.25 whereas when I was riding 8 or smaller I always found myself saying “fuck, I wish they made that in an 8”
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Which (good) brands even currently put out <8.0"s?
Polar, Pass-Port, Krooked and Magenta do.
I have two setups with shaped boards that are 8.125s but I'll stick to a 7.875 for my regular setup. Kids think I'm weird especially as I have big feet (11.5) but it's what works for me (with 139s and 52s).
Lots of pros skate small boards: Daewon, Barletta, Kelly Hart and PJ for example. There are many more though. It's just not something you hear about much as big boards are what the cool thing these days.
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7.75 and the smallest ventures .... cause i have a tiny wiener.. and baggy pants.
seriously though... to all of those things.
Honestly just the most comfortable to me bigger boards just feel like a brick to flick... maybe my ankles are just weak... weak ankles and a tiny dink thats me.
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my experience with decks smaller than 8" is a lot of rolled ankles. Might have been ill fitting footwear but I don't have this problem anymore with 8.25". I can flip them fine with hollow Indys
Same here... spent the extra dough on hollow Indy trucks. Super durable. My big ass breaks and thrashes trucks waaaaay too easy(im 6'5" 220lbs) but they don't seem much lighter than other Indy's. Weight to me seems to be a bigger factor in flipping more so than deck size.
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Nothing feels better to me than a 7.875. Skated 8.0s and 8.125s for a full year to give it a shot, but something about a 7.875 just feels the most right and works the best for me.
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I'm 6'4" and wear size 13 shoes. I love that big boards have become a thing, but I feel bad for people who want skinnier boards and can't find them, I've read that book before. I remember searching for 8.25s at shops in the early 2000s, and now I can find 8.75 at most shops, It's amazing.
I hope that since the new norm is everyone will have their own board company, different companies will carry different sizes so everyone will be covered.
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Why does anyone think shoe size has anything to do with board size? Back in the 90’s and 00’s, tons of tall dudes with big feet ripped on boards well under 8” and tons of little dudes skate giant boards today. I’m a size 12 and the best skating I ever did was in puffy shoes on 7.75 decks. I skate slightly bigger boards now just because that’s what I set up after a long hiatus, but board size is based much more on personal preference and the type of skating someone is trying to do than it is on height and shoe size.
Yeah, I was also one of those dudes with size 12 feel trying to skate 7.5" decks and it did not work for me at all. I understand it works for some but I look at photos/ video of that era and I look off. And the amount of boards I broke was ridiculous. Wider boards really helped my skateboarding and I think toe and heel overlap had something to do with that. I could go as low as 8.25" again but I like 8.5" or slightly wider these days. Funny you mention puffy shoes also... they also fucked me up... last pair I had were some Savier BAs. Sick shoes but I prefer broken toes and heel bruises over not being able to feel my board.
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do you guys live in the midwest or something?
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It would be fun if boards widened more...like to 13 inches or something. It would basically be like a flying carpet.
Also, if the accompanying trend was to go with as thin of trucks as you could find, so it's like a flying carpet on an inline blade. I think this would push skateboarding to new places it's never been done seen befo.
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I think the fact that theres so many different shapes and sizes that people are open to skating that nothing is gonna have a real “come back”. Everything is just in and might/will likely stay in. People with a size 8 shoe skate 8.5+ decks. Some have giant feet and still prefer a small board. I think people like that there are options to explore and will continue searching till the find what works or search if they feel they need a change.
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if a girl can wear high heels and walk, I can skate a 7.5 deck.
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I remember having to search shop to shop and online for 8.25s in the mid 2000s. I'm so glad it's easier now. I can even be sure that anywhere I go will have my preferred size of 8.375, but I'm down with anything in the range of 8.25-8.5. Bastien Salabanzi was skating 8.25s a 14 year old in the Sorry days and he had no problem getting the board around. If you have trouble flipping over an 8, it's because your flick is weak. Get your shit together.
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I remember having to search shop to shop and online for 8.25s in the mid 2000s. I'm so glad it's easier now. I can even be sure that anywhere I go will have my preferred size of 8.375, but I'm down with anything in the range of 8.25-8.5. Bastien Salabanzi was skating 8.25s a 14 year old in the Sorry days and he had no problem getting the board around. If you have trouble flipping over an 8, it's because your flick is weak. Get your shit together.
Seriously. Look at what they are doing to Kader...8.47", 159s, big ass wheels, he's going to be a powerhouse when he gets bigger.
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I wear a size 11 shoe and skate 8.5’s. It’s not even skating a “big” board for me, it’s more skating a board I can actually stand on. I recall in the early 2000’s having to drive from shop to shop just to see if they had an 8.0 deck... I remember when Yeah Right came out, Girl and Chocolate only made 7.5’s and 7.625’s... maybe a rare 7.75. Trust me, I’m really glad times changed.
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I'm 33, 6'6'' and wear size 13 shoes. I like a good 9.25. Also love the weird shapes coming out...Winkowski's stuff is great. Also the BA shaped deck from Anti Hero...love them. I saw on Chief's instagram the other day Zero is about release a shaped 9.25. Can't wait for that. Will be the first Zero deck I purchase since 2001. I'm old, I don't flip my board much these days so the larger decks are great for me.
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I've found that I snap boards easier if they are under 8 :'(
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I dont know if there is a solid trend line anymore, initially I was going to say "yes people are going smaller" because Ive noticed pros and skaters around me going down to smaller boards, but then i remembered the polar video and since that will be video of the year, you will definitely see more soft wheels and giant boards. Theres a lot more room for everything these days not just what the mags show.
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I'm 6'4" and wear size 13 shoes. I love that big boards have become a thing, but I feel bad for people who want skinnier boards and can't find them, I've read that book before. I remember searching for 8.25s at shops in the early 2000s, and now I can find 8.75 at most shops, It's amazing.
I hope that since the new norm is everyone will have their own board company, different companies will carry different sizes so everyone will be covered.
this is a really nice comment, we dont deserve you
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It’s funny how people say they ride bigger boards coz they are old
I ride smaller boards because I’m old and that’s what I grew up skating so it feels right
Preference is interesting but you really can’t be faulted on it
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Is 8 big or small size?
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I've been on an 8.5 for about 11 years. There have been a few 8.3s in there but 8.5 is what works for me. I'd be real heartbroken if their availability started to disappear.
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Is 8 big or small size?
Apperantly on the smaller side..
I find it big but good to skate
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Apperantly on the smaller side..
I find it big but good to skate
to me it's medium (6'1 size 11)
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Is 8 big or small size?
small-ish, yeah
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I've been on an 8.5 for about 11 years. There have been a few 8.3s in there but 8.5 is what works for me. I'd be real heartbroken if their availability started to disappear.
Im also in the double digit years skating 8.5s. All my hometown has is a zumiez and they only get like 2 8.5s a month which is super dank cuz 3 out of the 7 skateboarders in this town skate 8.5s. Ordering boards is so annoying.
I rode a friends 9 for like three days. Thing felt so fucked.
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People at the local will consistently act shocked about my riding a 'tiny' 8.0 but damn if I remember even one older skate homie from my childhood riding anything above that. Still trips me out
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Even when 7.75 was standard i rode big boards. Thin boards are just uncomfortable to me , my foot sticks out too much.
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I always rode an 8, lowest I went was a 7.75 Workshop around '04. Started going up about 3 years ago. I'm on an 8.75 at the moment, but definitely dropping back to an 8.5 next board, along with narrower trucks. Backside grinds on pool coping slip out too easily when I've got 9" of truck hanging back into the bowl. I would like to find an 8.5 with a 15" wheelbase.
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I always rode an 8, lowest I went was a 7.75 Workshop around '04. Started going up about 3 years ago. I'm on an 8.75 at the moment, but definitely dropping back to an 8.5 next board, along with narrower trucks. Backside grinds on pool coping slip out too easily when I've got 9" of truck hanging back into the bowl. I would like to find an 8.5 with a 15" wheelbase.
Here are two 8.5/15wb options:
http://www.deckcrafters.tv/Shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=201
http://www.deckcrafters.tv/Shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=262
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I always rode an 8, lowest I went was a 7.75 Workshop around '04. Started going up about 3 years ago. I'm on an 8.75 at the moment, but definitely dropping back to an 8.5 next board, along with narrower trucks. Backside grinds on pool coping slip out too easily when I've got 9" of truck hanging back into the bowl. I would like to find an 8.5 with a 15" wheelbase.
Here are two 8.5/15wb options:
http://www.deckcrafters.tv/Shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=201
http://www.deckcrafters.tv/Shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=262
Thanks!
Just need to find something like that down under. Most brands make 8.5 x 14.75 their long wb
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8,18 with a square nose is perfect for me and my foot size is 8,5.
I think i'm the only one in this board who dont care about wheel bases
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I love ride on a 7.9, but my homie give me free 8. 8 is good but, for my flip tricks, flick and my quick feet 7.9 is perfect.
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Anything 8 and up is a vert board. And vert’s dead.
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It’s funny how people say they ride bigger boards coz they are old
I ride smaller boards because I’m old and that’s what I grew up skating so it feels right
Preference is interesting but you really can’t be faulted on it
Yep.
Anything over a 7.75" feels too big.
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It’s funny how people say they ride bigger boards coz they are old
I ride smaller boards because I’m old and that’s what I grew up skating so it feels right
Preference is interesting but you really can’t be faulted on it
Until you hit 200 lbs and start learning fs slashes like every other dude over 40.
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i ride a 9 with indy 169 and nollie flipped at the bottom of el toro. big money big cars who the fuck you think you are?
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I always rode an 8, lowest I went was a 7.75 Workshop around '04. Started going up about 3 years ago. I'm on an 8.75 at the moment, but definitely dropping back to an 8.5 next board, along with narrower trucks. Backside grinds on pool coping slip out too easily when I've got 9" of truck hanging back into the bowl. I would like to find an 8.5 with a 15" wheelbase.
Powell / Mini Logo have their 181 shape which is an 8.5 w 15". I'm skating one as my pool board and it has a nice steep concave. The Mini Logo wood may not be as nice as BBS, but right now you can get them for $20 each if you buy at least two. https://www.skateone.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?q=bomb&soc_deck_mold%5B0%5D=K15&soc_deck_width_range%5B0%5D=8.50%22
NOTE: Their newer 8.5 uses their mellower concave and has a 14.375 wb. It's not a shape I dig at all.
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Anything 8 and up is a vert board. And vert’s dead.
Vert is so fucking fun. I would have done anything to grow up around all these parks that had transition, if you aren't taking advantage you're blowing it. Learning airs on vert is just as fun as ledge dancing on your 7.75" I promise.
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20 years on the board here, from Chile.
Always felt the board size should be related to your height and shoe size.
Big dudes, big boards; small shoes, small board and so on
I'm 6 feet tall, US 9 shoe
always skated 7.75 as kid
got into 8.0 around 5 years ago, mainly cause you couldn´t find smaller boards here (the good ones of course)
been using 8.1 and US 9 NewBalance 868's for 1 1/2 years, my flatground its on point on this setup
tried bigger boards (8.25) a few times but can't make 360 flips or my classic flat game, same happens when I skate on slim shoes (adidas adiease or vans)
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nah, big boards are more comfy and tricks look burlier.
that said, this thread makes me want to set up something just under eight with the lightest thunders and little wheels. just to have around.
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8.5 minimum
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if anything all my friends are moving up sizes and i'd like to think i've had something to do with that
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if anything all my friends are moving up sizes and i'd like to think i've had something to do with that
A lil pat on the back aye...
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You haven't lived until you've landed a nice kickflip on a modest 9" Creature.
That's the feeling of true accomplishment.
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Is 8 big or small size?
8 is big. average penis is 6
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8 is big. average penis is 6
Three pages before a dick joke on a thread about deck size.
Slap is growing up so fast.
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I feel much safer on a wider board. I tried skating a 7.6 Toy Machine board I got as a present and ate shit on a regular basis, rolled my ankles over and over. I fall way less trying the same stuff on my 8.375 deck.
I can’t flip my new board but I’m working on my no complies and bonelesses
Looking at Polar’s P9 shape (8.625) as a possible next board.
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8,18 with a square nose is perfect for me and my foot size is 8,5.
I think i'm the only one in this board who dont care about wheel bases
I'm with you. I never pay attention to wheelbase. Length of nose & tail, sure, but I couldn't tell you what kind of wheelbase I have on my board, and it's the fourth same board in a row.
Maybe we should pay attention.
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I have a 9 and a bit PHAWT shaped Girl and it is super fun for rolling in the cut and doing mob flips on but keep my trusty 8 on hand for stunts.
It is messing me up a bit with sloppy foot placement and sketch landings but both hands down double revert tic-tac landings still count, right?