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Title: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: Allen. on August 27, 2018, 10:58:15 PM
https://instagram.com/p/BnAB9cxFqim/

(Graphic designer/vine sensation Joey Martinez (@phat_joey on Insta; give my dude a follow) does a run of shirts that John Hill apparently likes ; so much so that he reproduces them in a manner which proves the ‘generation loss’ theory/manner. I’ve seen you guys get up in arms when Target or H&M steals from us, but what about a fellow skater? Dude has been deleting comments and blocking people as well as deleting the post of the photo above. There are SO many ideas out there, why steal one? Don’t you have pride?

Oh wait ; you’re a youtube vlogger. You don’t have pride.
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: Buck Russell on August 27, 2018, 11:27:49 PM
that's not a very unique concept and the second one is better.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/TWJZXFPJkJVDO/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: rapscallion on August 27, 2018, 11:38:58 PM
that's not a very unique concept and the second one is better.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/TWJZXFPJkJVDO/giphy.gif)
So you prefer when something is stolen and altered to remove any blackness. White supremacist confirmed
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: jakeumms on August 27, 2018, 11:41:46 PM
Yeah I'm gonna need you to go ahead and stop producing that obvious rip off graphic.

For real, it's pretty clearly a bite and that is a bad look for anyone.
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: Buck Russell on August 28, 2018, 12:03:46 AM
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--AfXgwSeU--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/lyuwyikfjbvg4dgcdjlz.jpg)
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: ChiefSQueff on August 28, 2018, 03:00:17 AM
https://instagram.com/p/BnAB9cxFqim/

(Graphic designer/vine sensation Joey Martinez (@phat_joey on Insta; give my dude a follow) does a run of shirts that John Hill apparently likes ; so much so that he reproduces them in a manner which proves the ‘generation loss’ theory/manner. I’ve seen you guys get up in arms when Target or H&M steals from us, but what about a fellow skater? Dude has been deleting comments and blocking people as well as deleting the post of the photo above. There are SO many ideas out there, why steal one? Don’t you have pride?

Oh wait ; you’re a youtube vlogger. You don’t have pride.

How about a better idea? We start a skater owned shoe company. We can call it SMACKYOMOMMASKATESHOES. How do you like my business idea?
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: lampshade on August 28, 2018, 04:27:48 AM
Yeah I'm gonna need you to go ahead and stop producing that obvious rip off graphic.

For real, it's pretty clearly a bite and that is a bad look for anyone.

Yes, b/c skateboarders would never rip off a piece of art or a logo.
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: shit_for_brains on August 28, 2018, 04:40:10 AM
This isn't like parallel thought or any of that. Youtube saw something he liked, stated publicly "wow I like this!", then ripped it off. Add thief to the list of derogatory terms for him.
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: Patey on August 28, 2018, 06:25:46 AM
This isn't like parallel thought or any of that. Youtube saw something he liked, stated publicly "wow I like this!", then ripped it off. Add thief to the list of derogatory terms for him.

In the reddit post where I first saw this, he original commissioned the artist to do the design for him, then decided he didnt want it. Shortly after he started putting out "his version".
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: Allen. on August 28, 2018, 08:38:54 AM
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This isn't like parallel thought or any of that. Youtube saw something he liked, stated publicly "wow I like this!", then ripped it off. Add thief to the list of derogatory terms for him.
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In the reddit post where I first saw this, he original commissioned the artist to do the design for him, then decided he didnt want it. Shortly after he started putting out "his version".

Yeah, I originally saw something similar on twitter, possibly written by the same dude, the original artist’s brother. But that tweet was deleted so I ended up just going with what I knew.

Dude also apparently isn’t selling that shirt now.
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: GAY on August 28, 2018, 09:09:20 AM
This isn't like parallel thought or any of that. Youtube saw something he liked, stated publicly "wow I like this!", then ripped it off. Add thief to the list of derogatory terms for him.

Also, add sassy to the list of descriptors.
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: calvinsdream on August 28, 2018, 10:04:55 AM
Nobody needs to start a clothing company ever
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: rapscallion on August 28, 2018, 10:13:05 AM
Nobody needs to start a clothing company ever
Not wrong but a fake streetwear brand is the ultimate cash cow for people with large unmonetized fanbases.
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: itsyourdad on August 28, 2018, 10:52:49 AM
youtube ripped off phat joey. phat joey ripped off doom sayers. doom sayers ripped off old tattoo flash. old tattoo flash “found inspiration” from the fucking sistine chapel. bands have been using this concept on album covers for years, (see: the antlers, godspeed! you black emperor).  it’s almost as if most art is fairly unoriginal??

john hill is a fucking kook, there are plent of things you can make fun of him for, let’s start that thread instead.
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: Allen. on August 28, 2018, 01:12:54 PM
youtube ripped off phat joey. phat joey ripped off doom sayers. doom sayers ripped off old tattoo flash. old tattoo flash “found inspiration” from the fucking sistine chapel. bands have been using this concept on album covers for years, (see: the antlers, godspeed! you black emperor).  it’s almost as if most art is fairly unoriginal??

john hill is a fucking kook, there are plent of things you can make fun of him for, let’s start that thread instead.

While that’s true, his comment on the original post makes this a different story. Whenever H&M et all rip off something, there’s always some form of plausible deniability. In this case, him commenting on the original removes the possibility of claiming it was his idea, or that he is inspired by something that has lapsed into the public domain... no one is paying Michaelangelo royalties for the creation of man anymore.

Dude ripped off a someone (another skater) that is attempting to make graphic design his career.

Corny or not, it’d have been a great move to put that you designed a shirt for a d-list streetwear company on your resumé. But it didn’t happen. John Hill said “never mind, I’m not commissioning you for your work anymore” and went ahead and made a knock of instead... then deleted/blocked people calling him out for it. Apparently Hill and the original artist came to an agreement and Hill is apparently not selling the shirt anymore (and being a brat in the comments about it). Regardless, dude should be fucking ashamed of himself.
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: franquietits on August 28, 2018, 09:30:15 PM
Could be more tricky then we know. If he did indeed commission said artist about it, then it's certainly a possibility that he requested the artist to work around his own artistic vision for it, i.e. "make it with two hands reaching for each other... position it this way. " etc. It really depends on the terms of service that the artist provided to hill. Hill could have commissioned him to create it, whilst paying him enough to own the original image as well; allowing him to modify it to his own desire .

Otherwise its just a concerned homie looking out for a friend, but ya know... not having the full story. Not a good idea. This could be detrimental to both parties involved with in itself, reputation-ally speaking. Because the third party getting himself involved may not be privy to the details of communication, John hill could come out looking shitty for it, and the artist may also lose potential clients who wouldn't want to deal with any potential friction when working with him.     
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: Seadramon on August 28, 2018, 09:33:13 PM
He claims to like Pokemon but it's clear that he's just riding the Pokemon go hype train. Don't even get me started on his apparent love for Digimon.





Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: DONKEYSAUCE on August 28, 2018, 09:45:56 PM
If it makes you feel any better, I wouldn't buy either one of those shirts.
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: IHOP on August 28, 2018, 09:48:31 PM
who are any of these people and why are you guys so heated about a graphic that looks like it could be at any urban outfitters.
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: CHONGO on August 29, 2018, 02:29:46 AM
the vlogging nerds are the worst
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: bo golden on August 29, 2018, 04:53:23 AM
im thinking a new board company called Teeth

Biebel
John Hill
Jaws
Vinnie Banh
Jamie Foy

Feel free to add to this.
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: SUPREMENECKPROTECTOR on August 29, 2018, 04:59:26 AM
im thinking a new board company called Teeth

Biebel
John Hill
Jaws
Vinnie Banh
Jamie Foy

Feel free to add to this.

Andy Roy? Does he fulfill the minimum teeth count?
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: behavioralguide on August 29, 2018, 05:03:48 AM
im thinking a new board company called Teeth

Biebel
John Hill
Jaws
Vinnie Banh
Jamie Foy

Feel free to add to this.

daryl
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: Surf-goth on August 29, 2018, 05:05:40 AM
Who gives a shit about youtubers or vine people? Not me at least.
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: bo golden on August 29, 2018, 05:49:31 AM
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im thinking a new board company called Teeth

Biebel
John Hill
Jaws
Vinnie Banh
Jamie Foy

Feel free to add to this.
[close]

daryl
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im thinking a new board company called Teeth

Biebel
John Hill
Jaws
Vinnie Banh
Jamie Foy

Feel free to add to this.
[close]

Andy Roy? Does he fulfill the minimum teeth count?

They're both on guys!!
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: shannamal on August 29, 2018, 09:01:39 AM
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Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: silhouette on August 29, 2018, 12:51:04 PM
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im thinking a new board company called Teeth

Biebel
John Hill
Jaws
Vinnie Banh
Jamie Foy

Feel free to add to this.
[close]

daryl
[close]
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im thinking a new board company called Teeth

Biebel
John Hill
Jaws
Vinnie Banh
Jamie Foy

Feel free to add to this.
[close]

Andy Roy? Does he fulfill the minimum teeth count?
[close]

They're both on guys!!

Stu Graham

2010-era Mullen guest model with a FA-styled mug shot
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: MisterX on August 29, 2018, 01:08:28 PM
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im thinking a new board company called Teeth

Biebel
John Hill
Jaws
Vinnie Banh
Jamie Foy

Feel free to add to this.
[close]

daryl
[close]
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im thinking a new board company called Teeth

Biebel
John Hill
Jaws
Vinnie Banh
Jamie Foy

Feel free to add to this.
[close]

Andy Roy? Does he fulfill the minimum teeth count?
[close]

They're both on guys!!
[close]

Stu Graham

2010-era Mullen guest model with a FA-styled mug shot

Mikey "Horse Tooth" Taylor
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: Pavs323 on August 29, 2018, 01:43:59 PM
Doesn't shock me that he would be alright with jacking someone elses idea. Him being a sneaky self centered ass is why he was essentially eradicated from the industry, and why he has had to resort YouTube and sponsors like Revive. Sadly, its worked out awfully well for him, but what goes around comes around I guess. Like 99% of Youtubers, his audience will get bored of his content eventually and he will go away.
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: jakeumms on August 29, 2018, 02:46:20 PM
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im thinking a new board company called Teeth

Biebel
John Hill
Jaws
Vinnie Banh
Jamie Foy

Feel free to add to this.
[close]

daryl
[close]
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im thinking a new board company called Teeth

Biebel
John Hill
Jaws
Vinnie Banh
Jamie Foy

Feel free to add to this.
[close]

Andy Roy? Does he fulfill the minimum teeth count?
[close]

They're both on guys!!
[close]

Stu Graham

2010-era Mullen guest model with a FA-styled mug shot

(https://i.imgur.com/JSf7eue.jpg)
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: SneakySecrets on August 29, 2018, 04:10:57 PM
I watched a video with that guy and I swear god I’ve never wanted to smack anyone so bad in my life.
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: bo golden on August 30, 2018, 05:03:04 AM
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im thinking a new board company called Teeth

Biebel
John Hill
Jaws
Vinnie Banh
Jamie Foy

Feel free to add to this.
[close]

daryl
[close]
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im thinking a new board company called Teeth

Biebel
John Hill
Jaws
Vinnie Banh
Jamie Foy

Feel free to add to this.
[close]

Andy Roy? Does he fulfill the minimum teeth count?
[close]

They're both on guys!!
[close]

Stu Graham

2010-era Mullen guest model with a FA-styled mug shot
[close]

Mikey "Horse Tooth" Taylor
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: Stony Hawk on August 30, 2018, 08:18:39 AM
Doesn't shock me that he would be alright with jacking someone elses idea. Him being a sneaky self centered ass is why he was essentially eradicated from the industry, and why he has had to resort YouTube and sponsors like Revive. Sadly, its worked out awfully well for him, but what goes around comes around I guess. Like 99% of Youtubers, his audience will get bored of his content eventually and he will go away.

Please elaborate.  I’m genuinely curious.
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: Pavs323 on August 30, 2018, 12:46:18 PM
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Doesn't shock me that he would be alright with jacking someone elses idea. Him being a sneaky self centered ass is why he was essentially eradicated from the industry, and why he has had to resort YouTube and sponsors like Revive. Sadly, its worked out awfully well for him, but what goes around comes around I guess. Like 99% of Youtubers, his audience will get bored of his content eventually and he will go away.
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Please elaborate.  I’m genuinely curious.
From what I’ve heard, the guy would go on trips and couldnt get along with anyone. With Birdhosue he went on 1-2 trips and he was apparently always concerned with only what he wanted to do, and if they went to a spot or something he didn’t like, he would throw a little fit and take off somewhere else. He even confirmed this story and admits fault, so ill give him props for that.
Then, there’s another story where his board sponsor after Birdhouse did something he didn’t like, so the whole time he was filming for their video he was shitting on the company behind their back and didn’t use their boards in the footage purposely to make a “statement” or some petty shit like that. He has also admitted to this story.
These are the two examples I’m near certain actually happened (because he even admitted to them) but apparently there’s more of these antics.
So that’s apparently why he had no sponsors for awhile, because word got around he’s difficult to deal with, and no one wanted to deal with his bullshit, hence him being “eradicated.” That’s when he started YouTube and we know the rest.
Idk, I’m just saying he seems like he has 100% tunnel vision on himself and doesn’t see how his actions affect other people, therefore, I am not shocked that he would steal someone elses idea like this and be okay with doing it, because he fails to see how that’s morally not cool, and only sees how it benefits his brand.
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: fulloffact on August 30, 2018, 12:49:10 PM
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Doesn't shock me that he would be alright with jacking someone elses idea. Him being a sneaky self centered ass is why he was essentially eradicated from the industry, and why he has had to resort YouTube and sponsors like Revive. Sadly, its worked out awfully well for him, but what goes around comes around I guess. Like 99% of Youtubers, his audience will get bored of his content eventually and he will go away.
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Please elaborate.  I’m genuinely curious.
I know he had a couple of "check out" videos. He used to ride for Birdhouse, Lakai and shortly rode for the Friendship skateboards. There's a video where he talked about something along the lines of not seeing eye to eye with any of the teams and he'd rather skate whenever he wanted. It seemed like he left the industry on his own. I hate on him all day, but no one can deny he isn't making a decent amount of YouTube money.
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: curbdrop on September 04, 2018, 02:04:18 PM
Apparently the last Revive video was all edited by Schrock- except his part which he insisted that his gf would edit instead. Sounds scummy.
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: I sniff Jim Gagne's butthole all the time on September 04, 2018, 02:06:51 PM
Apparently the last Revive video was all edited by Schrock- except his part which he insisted that his gf would edit instead. Sounds scummy. frank garcia hirata-y
kick this man to the curb andy schrock!
promote josh katz
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: Cherb on September 04, 2018, 03:33:12 PM
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Doesn't shock me that he would be alright with jacking someone elses idea. Him being a sneaky self centered ass is why he was essentially eradicated from the industry, and why he has had to resort YouTube and sponsors like Revive. Sadly, its worked out awfully well for him, but what goes around comes around I guess. Like 99% of Youtubers, his audience will get bored of his content eventually and he will go away.
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Please elaborate.  I’m genuinely curious.
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I know he had a couple of "check out" videos. He used to ride for Birdhouse, Lakai and shortly rode for the Friendship skateboards. There's a video where he talked about something along the lines of not seeing eye to eye with any of the teams and he'd rather skate whenever he wanted. It seemed like he left the industry on his own. I hate on him all day, but no one can deny he isn't making a decent amount of YouTube money.
Honestly, I can't blame dudes for vlogging if they want to get paid and skate whenever they want.  Work a 9-5 and have a set schedule or make youtube videos and skate whenever you want? Fuck it, make the youtube videos.
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: kid casserole on September 04, 2018, 05:59:23 PM
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Apparently the last Revive video was all edited by Schrock- except his part which he insisted that his gf would edit instead. Sounds scummy. frank garcia hirata-y
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kick this man to the curb andy schrock!
promote josh katz

Josh, come on in...go ahead and close the door. Take a seat, I know this feels weird compared to the usual boundary violations and bearded dog pile surprises, but this is a little different...we want to put your name on a board for real this time...with a cat my boy drew in his diarrhea on the kitchen floor as the graphic, but the only problem is unfortunately ever since Lil Pump and Tasha69 arrived, our social landscape has changed.  As I see it, this can go 3 ways...1. No helmet which I just threw out there and assume is a deal breaker but what the heck, 2. quit, you'll always be fam I'll still send you boards/red shirts...3) we build you a helmet that looks like one of these new lil rappers hair...silly braids left and right every which way..and Tasha rainbow frizz or thinking outside the box maybe something like a protec with extensions like Alex Olson or one of the cooler guys, we can send you to Berlin and you can try all that bi curious male female male shit I wish I hadn't told my wife I was interested in.  Choose this route and we'll have the tracks installed professionally, you can work it off with the annoying guy with the beard and camera in the warehouse ...he's currently filming Kyro and Chann kissing in their rash guards, hold on Josh, CAN YOU MAKE SURE WE GET THAT SHOT OF RICHIE JACKSON SHAVING HIS BUTTHOLE UNDER THE XMAS TREE? I need these clips online by 3.  K, lets seee...buttholes, butthole where were we...ah look Katz I need you to come up with a quick decision.  We found the next big Banh, exciting times, this kid is even hungrier, wont rap he doesn't cry when his girlfriends leave after smothering them and released the brake on Vinnie's home and yelled In God We Trust as it rolled into the culvert across from the neighbors fence .  He really wants to be here Katz...do you?




 
Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: jakeumms on September 04, 2018, 09:03:17 PM
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Title: Re: Vlogger caught plagerising resorts to tried and true tactic of blocking
Post by: franquietits on September 05, 2018, 03:30:07 AM
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Doesn't shock me that he would be alright with jacking someone elses idea. Him being a sneaky self centered ass is why he was essentially eradicated from the industry, and why he has had to resort YouTube and sponsors like Revive. Sadly, its worked out awfully well for him, but what goes around comes around I guess. Like 99% of Youtubers, his audience will get bored of his content eventually and he will go away.
[close]

Please elaborate.  I’m genuinely curious.
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From what I’ve heard, the guy would go on trips and couldnt get along with anyone. With Birdhosue he went on 1-2 trips and he was apparently always concerned with only what he wanted to do, and if they went to a spot or something he didn’t like, he would throw a little fit and take off somewhere else. He even confirmed this story and admits fault, so ill give him props for that.
Then, there’s another story where his board sponsor after Birdhouse did something he didn’t like, so the whole time he was filming for their video he was shitting on the company behind their back and didn’t use their boards in the footage purposely to make a “statement” or some petty shit like that. He has also admitted to this story.
These are the two examples I’m near certain actually happened (because he even admitted to them) but apparently there’s more of these antics.
So that’s apparently why he had no sponsors for awhile, because word got around he’s difficult to deal with, and no one wanted to deal with his bullshit, hence him being “eradicated.” That’s when he started YouTube and we know the rest.
Idk, I’m just saying he seems like he has 100% tunnel vision on himself and doesn’t see how his actions affect other people, therefore, I am not shocked that he would steal someone elses idea like this and be okay with doing it, because he fails to see how that’s morally not cool, and only sees how it benefits his brand.

Three Names:
Jaws
Clint Walker
David loy
(maybe throw stinky Raybourn in there, too)

Tell me you would survive that.
(http://media.tumblr.com/b9c82ef0ea1a7b8a68fc8bbb192d0826/tumblr_inline_msoampCLQB1qz4rgp.gif)