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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: decaf on August 30, 2018, 01:24:16 PM
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According to Raven Tershy’s latest post/P-Stone tribute.
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Fuck, the whole thing is such a bummer. :'(
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Man. Heavy, but honestly could've been so much worse. I was expecting 7-10 yrs given the strict DUI laws in Washington.
RIP P-Stone
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good.
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good.
Yeah.. the whole thing is just great isn’t it?
I’m glad the punishment seems to satiate your hunger for justice you internet fucking nobody.
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good.
get bent dude
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Hopefully jail life doesn't fuck him up... I wish him and his family the best !
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good.
Driller is this thread's "that guy".
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Yeah.. the whole thing is just great isn’t it?
I’m glad the punishment seems to satiate your hunger for justice you internet fucking nobody.
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Such a sad story. God Bless Cory & his family. Tough times don't last but mentally tough people do. He'll hopefully get a day parole within 12-18 months.
God Bless and rest in peace P- Stone and family.
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Man. Heavy, but honestly could've been so much worse. I was expecting 7-10 yrs given the strict DUI laws in Washington.
RIP P-Stone
Accidentally killing your friend must be worse than any prison sentence.
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4 years seems pretty stiff to me, especially since the victim was in the car. MADD published a list of expected sentences by state and Cory received 1.5 years more than the lowest on average, so I don’t think the judge took it easy on him. Probably not a fan of skateboarders.
https://www.madd.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Vehicular_Homicide_Overview.pdf
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Night, night, keep your butt hole tight.
I got sentenced to 4 years, and served 4 months in NJ, could have been out in 3 months, but was finishing the prison rehab program. There are always loopholes. The fact that violence was involved, probably makes any early release, first offender type program void. The system is designed to help white middle class kids, you just need to do a little due diligence.
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Night, night, keep your butt hole tight.
I got sentenced to 4 years, and served 4 months in NJ, could have been out in 3 months, but was finishing the prison rehab program. There are always loopholes. The fact that violence was involved, probably makes any early release, first offender type program void. The system is designed to help white middle class kids, you just need to do a little due diligence.
can't forget new jersey......
maybe he'll get half suspended or some shit. too bad he can't get his sentence deferred until he's too old to make a living ripping.
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Corey was my favorite skateboarder back in high school, it's truly sad to see what happened to him. I wish Corey the best of luck, he'll forever have a soft spot in my heart. P-stone will also always be missed, going to skate without watching a new P-stone edit over coffee in the morning still feels strange.
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That’s a sad situation all around. It does seem a bit high as P-Stone was a willing rider and probably did that rodeo often. Also, Kennedy's BAC was relatively low (would have been under the legal limit only a few years previous). I wonder if there was evidence of recklessness that added to the judge's sentence? Pretty sure the girl who killed Phil Shao did way less, if anything.
My good friend's dad (a real piece of shit who he doesn’t talk to anymore) killed two pedestrians (total strangers) drunk driving in the 1980’s and did one whole year.
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Night, night, keep your butt hole tight.
I got sentenced to 4 years, and served 4 months in NJ, could have been out in 3 months, but was finishing the prison rehab program. There are always loopholes. The fact that violence was involved, probably makes any early release, first offender type program void. The system is designed to help white middle class kids, you just need to do a little due diligence.
maybe he'll get half suspended or some shit. too bad he can't get his sentence deferred until he's too old to make a living ripping.
I did a year on a 3 year sentence in Jersey. Was never a NJ resident, which made me indelible for even earlier release like MKUltras. Corys in his home locale. I'd think he'd already mandated for treatment programs through his plea deal, but inside programs are horrible, and don't help many people at all.
I'd be surprised if he's not eligible for at least a halfway before he's in for 365.
Just sad all around.
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Hopefully jail life doesn't fuck him up... I wish him and his family the best !
It'd be such a shame if he came back after jail and just piled out. I hope he comes back ripping harder than before....minus the drinking.
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The penalties and potential consequences for this crime, and all crimes, are not secrets.
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Vibes to Cory. One of the the funnest dudes to watch on a board.
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Night, night, keep your butt hole tight.
I got sentenced to 4 years, and served 4 months in NJ, could have been out in 3 months, but was finishing the prison rehab program. There are always loopholes. The fact that violence was involved, probably makes any early release, first offender type program void. The system is designed to help white middle class kids, you just need to do a little due diligence.
what was your crime, if I may ask.
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Reading the comments on Ravens post is fucked.
Everyone has been in both Corys or Pstones position when partying/normal life.
Hope Cory is ok in the head. The guilt must be fucked. :(
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Im sure the guilt of killing a friend is worse then anything else. I hope Cory is fine after jail and I'm curious to see if skateboarding will take him back.
RIP P-Stone
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We took Ali back, ck can play his cards right and be good after this.
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We took Ali back, ck can play his cards right and be good after this.
Ali never came back.
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Hope Cory and the family find their peace. 4 years is nothing next to the loss of life.
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That Thrasher article where Corey became "Frank" is really fucking ominous. This year has been shit for skating.
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From a legal perspective it could've gone far worse.
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guess this is why rickk & mike went to visit him a couple weekends ago. this whole situation is unspeakably sad :(
because of the crime, is cory able to make money while in jail? if he still has a board out for the next couple years, what are the ethical/legal ramifications of that? maybe the money goes to p-stone's family as part of his plea deal. anyone know?
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guess this is why rickk & mike went to visit him a couple weekends ago. this whole situation is unspeakably sad :(
because of the crime, is cory able to make money while in jail? if he still has a board out for the next couple years, what are the ethical/legal ramifications of that? maybe the money goes to p-stone's family as part of his plea deal. anyone know?
you aren't allowed to profit off a crime but you're allowed to make money in jail [prison] if his board is still selling or whatever.
if you mean making money in prison, it's pennies. not even enough to cover overpriced ramen 'soup' on commissary.
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guess this is why rickk & mike went to visit him a couple weekends ago. this whole situation is unspeakably sad :(
because of the crime, is cory able to make money while in jail? if he still has a board out for the next couple years, what are the ethical/legal ramifications of that? maybe the money goes to p-stone's family as part of his plea deal. anyone know?
Ck comes from a rich family. Money is probably the last thing on his mind right now.
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what a beautiful person
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you aren't allowed to profit off a crime but you're allowed to make money in jail [prison] if his board is still selling or whatever
ya this was what i meant. i wonder what deal they struck to reduce his sentence. i'm sure there was a significant fine involved, given how many ppl have been saying washington state is normally super strict about this type of crime
Ck comes from a rich family. Money is probably the last thing on his mind right now.
agreed. was more curious about any income he generates while in prison, if that's part of his deal and/or could be put to good use (but as you say, if he comes from money maybe it wouldn't matter either way)
i'm interested in restorative justice is all, and how this might be an avenue to start making amends given he's in a unique position to make money while incarcerated
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Doubt he'll make any money in prison, sure Girl is gonna hold him down but I doubt he'll have a board out while in jail. Some kid here got black out drunk and drive his truck into the crowd at the biggest parade of Mardi Gras, he didn't kill anyone but injury 20+ people and he got in under 2 years for being white and educated and well behaved in jail. So maybe 2 years or less, but who knows if he'll even care about skating when he gets out, I doubt he'll be the same person.
Edit: so I just googled it and that kid injured 32 people and was sentanced to 5 years but ended up doing 18 months.
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Doubt he'll make any money in prison, sure Girl is gonna hold him down but I doubt he'll have a board out while in jail. Some kid here got black out drunk and drive his truck into the crowd at the biggest parade of Mardi Gras, he didn't kill anyone but injury 20+ people and he got in under 2 years for being white and educated and well behaved in jail. So maybe 2 years or less, but who knows if he'll even care about skating when he gets out, I doubt he'll be the same person.
yeah, 2022 and he's got spiderweb on his head, missing teeth and welcoming us to KOTR and warning us about 'bad language'.
ya'll are wil'in, most people come out more or less the same as they went in. you just go on pause for that time while everyone else ages and evolves.
p-stone's wife will forgive him and they'll create a correspondence and she'll visit him and they'll embrace.
flash forward and he'll move in w/ her upon release and raise those kids like his own. it's what p-stone would've wanted.
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Night, night, keep your butt hole tight.
Prison rape isn’t funny.
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I really don’t understand why anybody is being sympathetic. Don’t drink and drive. Not even one drink. We’re how far along I’m knowing it’s a bad idea? Also fuck the post on Instagram that are all about getting hammered for p stone. Dude died in a drunk driving accident. Last thing you need is some asshole getting obliterated during that and making this whole thing come full circle.
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We took Ali back, ck can play his cards right and be good after this.
Ali never came back.
True but skateboarding as a whole doesn't hate him, if he put out clips people would be stoked.
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guess this is why rickk & mike went to visit him a couple weekends ago. this whole situation is unspeakably sad :(
because of the crime, is cory able to make money while in jail? if he still has a board out for the next couple years, what are the ethical/legal ramifications of that? maybe the money goes to p-stone's family as part of his plea deal. anyone know?
Ck comes from a rich family. Money is probably the last thing on his mind right now.
Friends from seattle told me he is broke now, the house pstone was renting from him went to the family, and the rest of his money went to legal fees and paid to stones family. He still owns his own house so he will be okay, but he isnt rolling in it and may have been working a job for a sec is what i was told.
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Reading the comments on Ravens post is fucked.
Everyone has been in both Corys or Pstones position when partying/normal life.
Hope Cory is ok in the head. The guilt must be fucked. :(
dont want to derail this thread but no I have never been in either position, and many people I know wouldnt be in that position. I know most of society/skateboarding drinks and drives regularly but that isnt cool at all in my circle. it isnt just your life you put at risk its everyone on the road, even if you are just buzzed.
Not judging the situation at all, but putting out the "everyones been there" just doesnt sit right with me.
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We took Ali back, ck can play his cards right and be good after this.
Ali never came back.
True but skateboarding as a whole doesn't hate him, if he put out clips people would be stoked.
Ali was a pariah for a very long time. His Epicly Later’d was the sea change.
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Reading the comments on Ravens post is fucked.
Everyone has been in both Corys or Pstones position when partying/normal life.
Hope Cory is ok in the head. The guilt must be fucked. :(
dont want to derail this thread but no I have never been in either position, and many people I know wouldnt be in that position. I know most of society/skateboarding drinks and drives regularly but that isnt cool at all in my circle. it isnt just your life you put at risk its everyone on the road, even if you are just buzzed.
Not judging the situation at all, but putting out the "everyones been there" just doesnt sit right with me.
+1!
This kind of thinking really should fucking stop! People should stop normalizing drinking and driving, it's what caused this whole situation. I'm not from the US and I often wonder how fucking casually people over there (in general, not everyone) seem to relate to drinking and driving. Please stop it. It is not a position anyone should be in. It is not normal. It is not something that should be relatable to anyone. It is also really fucking easy not to do, so don't fucking do it!
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Reading the comments on Ravens post is fucked.
Everyone has been in both Corys or Pstones position when partying/normal life.
Hope Cory is ok in the head. The guilt must be fucked. :(
dont want to derail this thread but no I have never been in either position, and many people I know wouldnt be in that position. I know most of society/skateboarding drinks and drives regularly but that isnt cool at all in my circle. it isnt just your life you put at risk its everyone on the road, even if you are just buzzed.
Not judging the situation at all, but putting out the "everyones been there" just doesnt sit right with me.
I never said it was cool or ok. I said that it's pretty damn normal and that 90% or more of people have done it at least once (or many, many times)
Hats off to you and your stellar friends. I am stoked that there are people out there that are responsible.
Unfortunately driving "buzzed" it's more common than you think.
anyway, it does need to stop. Alcohol is the fucking devil full stop.
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Reading the comments on Ravens post is fucked.
Everyone has been in both Corys or Pstones position when partying/normal life.
Hope Cory is ok in the head. The guilt must be fucked. :(
dont want to derail this thread but no I have never been in either position, and many people I know wouldnt be in that position. I know most of society/skateboarding drinks and drives regularly but that isnt cool at all in my circle. it isnt just your life you put at risk its everyone on the road, even if you are just buzzed.
Not judging the situation at all, but putting out the "everyones been there" just doesnt sit right with me.
I never said it was cool or ok. I said that it's pretty damn normal and that 90% or more of people have done it at least once (or many, many times)
Hats off to you and your stellar friends. I am stoked that there are people out there that are responsible.
Unfortunately driving "buzzed" it's more common than you think.
anyway, it does need to stop. Alcohol is the fucking devil full stop.
Everyone means 100% not 90% just sayin
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Pretty sure in Washington you only serve 1/3 of your sentence unless you fuck off in jail. At least that's what I was offered and what most people I know who go to jail end up serving here.
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We took Ali back, ck can play his cards right and be good after this.
Ali never came back.
True but skateboarding as a whole doesn't hate him, if he put out clips people would be stoked.
Ali didn't come back because of Ali not because of skating. He can barely walk and has major depression and addiction issues. Watch his ELs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4Mxpxrce9U
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Yeah.. the whole thing is just great isn’t it?
I’m glad the punishment seems to satiate your hunger for justice you internet fucking nobody.
i didnt say that whole thing is just great. if you take alcohol and drive, and kill some1, its good to get small punishment.
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Driller is this thread's "that guy".
just my opinion buddy :) dont get mad
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Reading the comments on Ravens post is fucked.
Everyone has been in both Corys or Pstones position when partying/normal life.
Hope Cory is ok in the head. The guilt must be fucked. :(
dont want to derail this thread but no I have never been in either position, and many people I know wouldnt be in that position. I know most of society/skateboarding drinks and drives regularly but that isnt cool at all in my circle. it isnt just your life you put at risk its everyone on the road, even if you are just buzzed.
Not judging the situation at all, but putting out the "everyones been there" just doesnt sit right with me.
+1!
This kind of thinking really should fucking stop! People should stop normalizing drinking and driving, it's what caused this whole situation. I'm not from the US and I often wonder how fucking casually people over there (in general, not everyone) seem to relate to drinking and driving. Please stop it. It is not a position anyone should be in. It is not normal. It is not something that should be relatable to anyone. It is also really fucking easy not to do, so don't fucking do it!
Yeah, that bothered me in Raven's post too. The idea that Cory shouldn't shoulder any blame because of how totally normal dude it is to drive around with your drunk friends is a bad argument. Cory isn't an evil bastard, he made a shitty decision, and now he's facing the consequences, including living with having a hand in the death of his best friend for the rest of his life. The whole situation sucks, let's remember that it sucks way more for the man's wife and children than for Cory, but that doesn't mean Cory didn't fuck up.
Fact is if you are drinking and driving, and letting your friends in the car, or letting your friends drink and drive, you're a shitty fucking friend. Learn from Cory's mistake before you end learning from your own.
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Reading the comments on Ravens post is fucked.
Everyone has been in both Corys or Pstones position when partying/normal life.
Hope Cory is ok in the head. The guilt must be fucked. :(
dont want to derail this thread but no I have never been in either position, and many people I know wouldnt be in that position. I know most of society/skateboarding drinks and drives regularly but that isnt cool at all in my circle. it isnt just your life you put at risk its everyone on the road, even if you are just buzzed.
Not judging the situation at all, but putting out the "everyones been there" just doesnt sit right with me.
+1!
This kind of thinking really should fucking stop! People should stop normalizing drinking and driving, it's what caused this whole situation. I'm not from the US and I often wonder how fucking casually people over there (in general, not everyone) seem to relate to drinking and driving. Please stop it. It is not a position anyone should be in. It is not normal. It is not something that should be relatable to anyone. It is also really fucking easy not to do, so don't fucking do it!
Yeah, that bothered me in Raven's post too. The idea that Cory shouldn't shoulder any blame because of how totally normal dude it is to drive around with your drunk friends is a bad argument. Cory isn't an evil bastard, he made a shitty decision, and now he's facing the consequences, including living with having a hand in the death of his best friend for the rest of his life. The whole situation sucks, let's remember that it sucks way more for the man's wife and children than for Cory, but that doesn't mean Cory didn't fuck up.
Fact is if you are drinking and driving, and letting your friends in the car, or letting your friends drink and drive, you're a shitty fucking friend. Learn from Cory's mistake before you end learning from your own.
That's kind of my take away as well. Some of us have done it, some of us haven't. If you have done it and there were no terrible consequences, learn from Cory's experience and stop now. If you haven't done it, don't ever do it because this is how it could end up.
Horrible situation all around for everyone involved. Hopefully none of us find ourselves or our friends in a similar situation
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Driller is this thread's "that guy".
just my opinion buddy :) dont get mad
Yes, because prison has a long and well documented history of righting wrongs.
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Cory is still one of the best relevant skateboarders today. If he stays mentally strong and out of trouble, he could make a come back with new sponsors fairly easy. His name holds weight today or four years from now.
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I hate alcohol.
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guess this is why rickk & mike went to visit him a couple weekends ago. this whole situation is unspeakably sad :(
https://www.instagram.com/p/BmybIRjg0ye/?hl=en&taken-by=crailtap (https://www.instagram.com/p/BmybIRjg0ye/?hl=en&taken-by=crailtap)
rick and mike are good dudes. i now sort of have a different perspective of the tour that girl recently did in the pacific northwest. makes me think of when you're a kid and your parents drag you out to see your grandparents, and then they pass away shortly thereafter - they know it's probably the last chance you'll get to see them. it's like rick and mike were like, guys, this is probably the last time we'll get to skate with cory for awhile, so let's take a road trip.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BlcmYh0hbHd/?hl=en&taken-by=girlskateboards (https://www.instagram.com/p/BlcmYh0hbHd/?hl=en&taken-by=girlskateboards)
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Gonna come out all swole as fuck off bread and lifting water bags in the shower
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It’s very unfortunate situation.. I really wish the best for all parties involved
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hope he stays from the aryan gangs in prison.
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i hope he comes out looking like trapasso
also fuck Nike for dropping him
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everyone has made shitty decisions in their life. count yourself lucky if your own mistakes didn't cost your friend his life.
and no - its not because you were smart enough to recognize the line. it's because you were lucky.
all sorts of shit can turn tragic in a heartbeat. no denying drunk driving is loading the dice, but there are a million other ways tragedy can seep into our lives, and you're an asshole if you think you would never have a part in the blame.
high-horsing on the internet about how you know the 'line' and have never ever crossed it is pathetic, arrogant and lame. keep your side of the street clean doesn't mean looking down on others.
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where's bricycle to weigh in. he's slap's resident expert of drunk driving.
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It still really, really bugs me that people are shotgunning beers "in honor of Preston". I understand that a large part of his brand was drinking, but come on. He died in a drunk driving accident. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that a lot of those people shotgunning beers for Preston are going to finish that beer and get behind the wheel of a car.
My cousin killed someone when he was drunk driving, and he eventually took his own life as well. I don't drink on the anniversary of his death, because that would be absurd.
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hope he stays from the aryan gangs in prison.
Not sure you get much of a choice in prison. You roll with the car that they put you in.
When I was in rehab with a bunch of prison dudes everybody had to be in a "car". I told 'em I drove the Mary Kay Car and they got a kick out of that and left me alone.
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Man. Heavy, but honestly could've been so much worse. I was expecting 7-10 yrs given the strict DUI laws in Washington.
RIP P-Stone
Accidentally killing your friend must be worse than any prison sentence.
This. And drugs/alcohol are the devil. They're all fun and games until shit like this happens and completely ruins your life/several lives...
I've been straight edge all my life, not to be a preaching asshole, but because it fits my personality best.
Apart from that I do know we all fight our demons our own ways:
some people like me stare them in the eye and some poeple try to numb them with narcotics, which will work for them as well.
Whatever gets you through life... just don't let them take control :(
This isn't about justice as this is truly tragic.
And as much I'm against drinking and driving and I said 'I told you so!' I REALLY hope Cory gets some psychological help. Wouldn't be the first dude that commits suicide out of guilt in this type of situation...
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Man. Heavy, but honestly could've been so much worse. I was expecting 7-10 yrs given the strict DUI laws in Washington.
RIP P-Stone
Accidentally killing your friend must be worse than any prison sentence.
This. And drugs/alcohol are the devil. They're all fun and games until shit like this happens and completely ruins your life/several lives...
I've been straight edge all my life, not to be a preaching asshole, but because it fits my personality best.
Apart from that I do know we all fight our demons our own ways:
some people like me stare them in the eye and some poeple try to numb them with narcotics, which will work for them as well.
Whatever gets you through life... just don't let them take control :(
This isn't about justice as this is truly tragic.
And as much I'm against drinking and driving and I said 'I told you so!' I REALLY hope Cory gets some psychological help. Wouldn't be the first dude that commits suicide out of guilt in this type of situation...
How do you know drugs/alcohol are the devil if you've never tried them? Seems kind of hyperbolic.
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I never said it was cool or ok. I said that it's pretty damn normal and that 90% or more of people have done it at least once (or many, many times)
Hats off to you and your stellar friends. I am stoked that there are people out there that are responsible.
Unfortunately driving "buzzed" it's more common than you think.
This attitude (or statement) really baffles me! Is it that common in the states? I know of one group of my friends who once drove, where they were above the limit (2 beers for a grown man in Denmark), and it wasn't even like they were mad drunk. They were shamed hard by all the rest of us! It should not be a normal thing that "slips through once in a while" to drive intoxicated. It should be a major taboo! And bear in mind I come from a rather rural part of Denmark that once (I do not know the latest stats, but 10+ years ago, when I started drinking) was the county in Europe, where young people (15-24) was consuming the largest amount of alcohol!
I feel really sorry for Cory - it must be hell to be him right now! - but I have a hard time getting the people, who think there should be no consequences for him. You are endangering not only yourself, but everyone else as well, when you are driving intoxicated.
However, I can both feel sorry for him, and still think that it is fair that he has to go to jail (I just hope that some sort of program to get him integrated back into society/the industry is coming too. I do believe in consequences, I do not believe in destroying anymore lives).
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Well it's different in the US in a cultural sense because a lot of places are really only driving accessible due to no real public transportation options. When there's less options, unfortunately doing dumb shit like driving intoxicated seems like a better idea.
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This attitude (or statement) really baffles me! Is it that common in the states? I know of one group of my friends who once drove, where they were above the limit (2 beers for a grown man in Denmark), and it wasn't even like they were mad drunk. They were shamed hard by all the rest of us! It should not be a normal thing that "slips through once in a while" to drive intoxicated. It should be a major taboo! And bear in mind I come from a rather rural part of Denmark that once (I do not know the latest stats, but 10+ years ago, when I started drinking) was the county in Europe, where young people (15-24) was consuming the largest amount of alcohol!
not to derail the thread but this seems upside down to me. its just so different than my experiences in Europe. on a few occasions in multiple countries i have declined a second glass of wine at dinner by explaining i was driving that night- and everytime the waiter just stood there starting at me for 30 seconds trying to figure out how the two things were related with bottle over my cup.
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Well it's different in the US in a cultural sense because a lot of places are really only driving accessible due to no real public transportation options. When there's less options, unfortunately doing dumb shit like driving intoxicated seems like a better idea.
https://www.uber.com/
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This attitude (or statement) really baffles me! Is it that common in the states? I know of one group of my friends who once drove, where they were above the limit (2 beers for a grown man in Denmark), and it wasn't even like they were mad drunk. They were shamed hard by all the rest of us! It should not be a normal thing that "slips through once in a while" to drive intoxicated. It should be a major taboo! And bear in mind I come from a rather rural part of Denmark that once (I do not know the latest stats, but 10+ years ago, when I started drinking) was the county in Europe, where young people (15-24) was consuming the largest amount of alcohol!
not to derail the thread but this seems upside down to me. its just so different than my experiences in Europe. on a few occasions in multiple countries i have declined a second glass of wine at dinner by explaining i was driving that night- and everytime the waiter just stood there starting at me for 30 seconds trying to figure out how the two things were related with bottle over my cup.
Well there's cultural differences throughout Europe, but - at least in Denmark - there is a saying, which is "If you can afford to drink, you can afford a taxi".
We are, however, extremely liberal when it comes to drinking and cycling...
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I agree that completely demonizing Cory doesn’t do any good, but his actions still took someone’s life. I understand the guilt he feels is unimaginable, and I don’t think he’s a terrible person. I think he’s a good guy who made a extremely stupid decision. But, he still did what he did, and now it’s time for him to man up, and serve his time. Raven acting like he doesn’t deserve any of this is absurd.
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Well it's different in the US in a cultural sense because a lot of places are really only driving accessible due to no real public transportation options. When there's less options, unfortunately doing dumb shit like driving intoxicated seems like a better idea.
https://www.uber.com/
You know that doesn’t exist outside of metropolitan areas, right?
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Well it's different in the US in a cultural sense because a lot of places are really only driving accessible due to no real public transportation options. When there's less options, unfortunately doing dumb shit like driving intoxicated seems like a better idea.
https://www.uber.com/
Yes, I'm aware there are other options available. I don't know the reliability of these numbers since I googled it and I believe Pew Center for Research to be pretty credible, but 77% of American have a smartphone (http://www.pewinternet.org/fact-sheet/mobile/). That leaves 23% of people unable to utilize this option in most cases.
The simple fact is culturally in America driving to get where you need to go is more common than in Europe. I don't think that drinking and driving is okay, but that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to look for a root cause to this general attitude.
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I don't think that drinking and driving is okay, but that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to look for a root cause to this general attitude.
Quite the contrary, if we don't focus on that, it will be impossible to do any change!
EDIT: English is weird! I was not sure if my point came out correctly. I think it is right, what you do to focus on the problem, instead of just saying the problem is stupid. So supportive of what you said :)
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Well it's different in the US in a cultural sense because a lot of places are really only driving accessible due to no real public transportation options. When there's less options, unfortunately doing dumb shit like driving intoxicated seems like a better idea.
https://www.uber.com/
You know that doesn’t exist outside of metropolitan areas, right?
3 years ago uber covered 70% of the US population. I assume that number is higher now. Designated drivers can cover the remaining population
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I agree that completely demonizing Cory doesn’t do any good, but his actions still took someone’s life. I understand the guilt he feels is unimaginable, and I don’t think he’s a terrible person. I think he’s a good guy who made a extremely stupid decision. But, he still did what he did, and now it’s time for him to man up, and serve his time. Raven acting like he doesn’t deserve any of this is absurd.
i agree with you, and i think Raven is just a manchild.
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I agree that completely demonizing Cory doesn’t do any good, but his actions still took someone’s life. I understand the guilt he feels is unimaginable, and I don’t think he’s a terrible person. I think he’s a good guy who made a extremely stupid decision. But, he still did what he did, and now it’s time for him to man up, and serve his time. Raven acting like he doesn’t deserve any of this is absurd.
come to think of it i've never seen them in the same room together
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hope he stays from the aryan gangs in prison.
Not sure you get much of a choice in prison. You roll with the car that they put you in.
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Man. Heavy, but honestly could've been so much worse. I was expecting 7-10 yrs given the strict DUI laws in Washington.
RIP P-Stone
Accidentally killing your friend must be worse than any prison sentence.
This. And drugs/alcohol are the devil. They're all fun and games until shit like this happens and completely ruins your life/several lives...
I've been straight edge all my life, not to be a preaching asshole, but because it fits my personality best.
Apart from that I do know we all fight our demons our own ways:
some people like me stare them in the eye and some poeple try to numb them with narcotics, which will work for them as well.
Whatever gets you through life... just don't let them take control :(
This isn't about justice as this is truly tragic.
And as much I'm against drinking and driving and I said 'I told you so!' I REALLY hope Cory gets some psychological help. Wouldn't be the first dude that commits suicide out of guilt in this type of situation...
How do you know drugs/alcohol are the devil if you've never tried them? Seems kind of hyperbolic.
get out of here with that bs
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Well it's different in the US in a cultural sense because a lot of places are really only driving accessible due to no real public transportation options. When there's less options, unfortunately doing dumb shit like driving intoxicated seems like a better idea.
https://www.uber.com/
You know that doesn’t exist outside of metropolitan areas, right?
3 years ago uber covered 70% of the US population. I assume that number is higher now. Designated drivers can cover the remaining population
Ya what if you know you have to drive, dont drink. pretty easy. get beers and go to your friends house and stay there, I dont know why people act like its so hard to not drink and drive. I agree that there may not be great options but that doesnt mean that you are left with no choice but to drink and drive.
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I wonder if Weekend buzz will get the exclusive interview upon his release?
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I wonder if Weekend buzz will get the exclusive interview upon his release?
If I could gnar I would.
Don’t drink and drive ever.
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hope he stays from the aryan gangs in prison.
After getting out of prison, Cory Kennedy releases a shared part with Jason Jessee.
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RIP P-Stone, and I feel bad for Ck-he's one of my favorites to ever push. But let's not be stupid and blame this all on bad luck or try to undermine the dangers of drunk driving. What's even dumber than that is to make it seem like drunk driving is this unavoidable thing for anybody in 2018.
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Well it's different in the US in a cultural sense because a lot of places are really only driving accessible due to no real public transportation options. When there's less options, unfortunately doing dumb shit like driving intoxicated seems like a better idea.
https://www.uber.com/
You know that doesn’t exist outside of metropolitan areas, right?
3 years ago uber covered 70% of the US population. I assume that number is higher now. Designated drivers can cover the remaining population
They "cover" 70% of the US population but it doesn't mean they're everywhere. I'm a Lyft driver, and while we do go most places, if you're way out of the way you can wait 45 mins to an hour for a driver to get to you. Drivers stay in cities cause that's where the money is at.
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good.
you got fucking ligma bro
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on this thread we have people defending drunk driving and wanting to celebrate a dudes life by getting wasted even when drinking is what lead to his death. not sure why people are bothering arguing.
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Ill give my own drunk driving experience, which I'm terribly ashamed of. I struggle with drinking a lot, now if I know I'm even going to have one drink I don't take my car, yeah public transit in my city isn't great but its better then a DUI or killing someone while driving drunk. Its all about a mindset, as of last year my mind really changed when it comes to drinking and driving.
Example 1: I was 19 leaving a friends house to go to another friends house, I was driving and had 5 beers at my first friends house on the way to my other friends house I got pulled over, he smelled weed and I had beer that wasn't in the case, which is considered open alcohol. I ended up with two minor tickets which totalled $500, when in reality I should have got a DUI and my license suspended for 3 years and forced to go to AA.
Last fall I was drinking with a couple friends when my parents called me and asked if I could pick up another family member and bring them over, right before I got to there house I got a flat tire, a guy came over to see if I needed help and instantly smelt booze on my breath, he then proceeded to get me to call my parents for them to come pick me up or else he was going to call the police, again I should have ended up with a DUI.
Now I hardly drive, ill skate/bike or bus as much as possible, I only drive when I really need to and haven't gotten behind the wheel after 1 drink in almost a year. Earlier this summer two of my friends were driving home and got hit by a drunk driver who left them for dead, one was in a coma for a couple days, had internal bleeding and a punctured lung. The other fractured his skull and his face went into the windshield causing him to have multiple reconstructive surgeries on his face. I'm glad I finally learnt my lesson, because I would never want to hurt someone else or my self, when it is so easily avoidable by calling a sober friend or getting a cab. As someone said, if I can spend $20 on a bottle of liquor then I can spend 20 on a safe ride home
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Man. Heavy, but honestly could've been so much worse. I was expecting 7-10 yrs given the strict DUI laws in Washington.
RIP P-Stone
Accidentally killing your friend must be worse than any prison sentence.
This. And drugs/alcohol are the devil. They're all fun and games until shit like this happens and completely ruins your life/several lives...
I've been straight edge all my life, not to be a preaching asshole, but because it fits my personality best.
Apart from that I do know we all fight our demons our own ways:
some people like me stare them in the eye and some poeple try to numb them with narcotics, which will work for them as well.
Whatever gets you through life... just don't let them take control :(
This isn't about justice as this is truly tragic.
And as much I'm against drinking and driving and I said 'I told you so!' I REALLY hope Cory gets some psychological help. Wouldn't be the first dude that commits suicide out of guilt in this type of situation...
Say it all want but you are preaching. Because nobody on here is listening to your words.
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http://youtu.be/NHQR7bZQ4dI
Let's all metaphorically pour one out for his career. I remember I watched this when it first dropped and didn't understand how someone could be this good. Correct me if I'm wrong but I always regard him, Mo, and Shane as three of the guys who were so next level that all the kids of today we're emulating their consistency.
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Such a sad story. God Bless Cory & his family. Tough times don't last but mentally tough people do. He'll hopefully get a day parole within 12-18 months.
God Bless and rest in peace P- Stone and family.
The earliest he can get out is April 2021, apparently. Not too bad. I wonder when he has to surrender himself.
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Such a sad story. God Bless Cory & his family. Tough times don't last but mentally tough people do. He'll hopefully get a day parole within 12-18 months.
God Bless and rest in peace P- Stone and family.
The earliest he can get out is April 2021, apparently. Not too bad. I wonder when he has to surrender himself.
Evidently, he’s spending his first night in jail tonight
https://www.instagram.com/p/BnKWMYpDIiY/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1gacit30zs3jd
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Man. Heavy, but honestly could've been so much worse. I was expecting 7-10 yrs given the strict DUI laws in Washington.
RIP P-Stone
Accidentally killing your friend must be worse than any prison sentence.
This. And drugs/alcohol are the devil. They're all fun and games until shit like this happens and completely ruins your life/several lives...
I've been straight edge all my life, not to be a preaching asshole, but because it fits my personality best.
Apart from that I do know we all fight our demons our own ways:
some people like me stare them in the eye and some poeple try to numb them with narcotics, which will work for them as well.
Whatever gets you through life... just don't let them take control :(
This isn't about justice as this is truly tragic.
And as much I'm against drinking and driving and I said 'I told you so!' I REALLY hope Cory gets some psychological help. Wouldn't be the first dude that commits suicide out of guilt in this type of situation...
Listening? I can't remember myself posting a spoken memo on here?
And where exactly did I say something that triggers you (or that other kook) to state such a reaction?
Because I said it was the devil? What's wrong if I call it that when I've literally seen beautiful women get turned into walking skeletons because of drugs, seen guys waste away because of alcohol addiction, seen kids and wifes get assaulted because their dad/husband is a drunk etc.
A dude is going to jail for 4 years, another man/father died.
And than you get 'offended' when somebody shines a light on the 'bad side of partying', is that really how self-absorbed you are? That you feel 'called out' or your image got dented all while this tragedy is happening to someone else?
Djeez dude. This isn't even 'a straight edge thing'. It's just common sense and logic.
Is that me saying that everyone that drinks or does drugs sucks? No
Is that me saying that accidents don't happen? No
Is this tragic and extremely sad for all parties involved? Yes
To each his own, but be responsible and stop glorifying and stimulating this behaviour (Thrasher, 'sup?)Simple
And now tell me again where I wrote something 'wrong' and became 'a preacher' in your opinion?
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I don’t think this accident has that much to do with drinking. He wasn’t wasted. If you think he should of called an Uber after having a beer at a skatepark on a Pacific Northwest Island then well good for you.
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I don’t think this accident has that much to do with drinking. He wasn’t wasted. If you think he should of called an Uber after having a beer at a skatepark on a Pacific Northwest Island then well good for you.
When I drive somewhere and I know I have to drive back I use this simple trick of not drinking inbetween the two journeys.
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I don’t think this accident has that much to do with drinking. He wasn’t wasted. If you think he should of called an Uber after having a beer at a skatepark on a Pacific Northwest Island then well good for you.
When I drive somewhere and I know I have to drive back I use this simple trick of not drinking inbetween the two journeys.
So you drink before you leave and when you’re there ?
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I agree that completely demonizing Cory doesn’t do any good, but his actions still took someone’s life. I understand the guilt he feels is unimaginable, and I don’t think he’s a terrible person. I think he’s a good guy who made a extremely stupid decision. But, he still did what he did, and now it’s time for him to man up, and serve his time. Raven acting like he doesn’t deserve any of this is absurd.
https://youtu.be/4c8j9L57i2w
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I don’t think this accident has that much to do with drinking. He wasn’t wasted. If you think he should of called an Uber after having a beer at a skatepark on a Pacific Northwest Island then well good for you.
When I drive somewhere and I know I have to drive back I use this simple trick of not drinking inbetween the two journeys.
So you drink before you leave and when you’re there ?
Like a fish.
Seriously though... "what's he supposed to do? Call an Uber?"
Just go one step back and don't drink if you know you have to drive.
It's quite simple - you just don't put alcohol in your body.
I had to pick my father in law up from the train station at midnight a few weeks ago. On a Friday night I'll normally drink about 6-8 pint cans. That night I had...0.
Unless your held down and it's funneled in, not drinking booze really is as simple as not drinking booze.
There are no excuses for drink driving.
Its a shitty situation all round. The only tiny silver lining is he didn't hit someone else.
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I agree that completely demonizing Cory doesn’t do any good, but his actions still took someone’s life. I understand the guilt he feels is unimaginable, and I don’t think he’s a terrible person. I think he’s a good guy who made a extremely stupid decision. But, he still did what he did, and now it’s time for him to man up, and serve his time. Raven acting like he doesn’t deserve any of this is absurd.
https://youtu.be/4c8j9L57i2w
i meant raven and manchild not raven and ck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fgwby2XRgw
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Why the fuck is everyone using the 'Free CK 1' hashtag? How is that not insanely offensive to Prestons memory? "I know there was a terrible accident, and P Stone died, but there should be 0 repercussions"
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yeah I wish him the best but the #freeck1 stuff is pretty lame.
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Why the fuck is everyone using the 'Free CK 1' hashtag? How is that not insanely offensive to Prestons memory? "I know there was a terrible accident, and P Stone died, but there should be 0 repercussions"
his buddy died as a result of his driving error. how is that not a repercussion? preston ain't gonna come back to life by ck suffering.
do you get a boner by someone else having a bad day?
i'm not gonna speak for a dead man but i doubt he'd want his friend in jail and i bet he'd be pissed if people were using his death as an excuse to promote teetotalling and shame drinking. p-stone found what he loved and let it kill him.
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Why the fuck is everyone using the 'Free CK 1' hashtag? How is that not insanely offensive to Prestons memory? "I know there was a terrible accident, and P Stone died, but there should be 0 repercussions"
do you get a boner by someone else having a bad day?
i'm not gonna speak for a dead man but i doubt he'd want his friend in jail and i bet he'd be pissed if people were using his death as an excuse to promote teetotalling and shame drinking. p-stone found what he loved and let it kill him.
i've been on both sides of a drunk driving call. i've had friends and cousins killed by drunk drivers, and i've had family members kill others by drunk driving. Just because someone isn't coming back doesn't mean that no one should face repercussions.
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why are people still arguing about what constitutes drunk driving? shut the fuck up.
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that pic of him w/ the dog, hours before he goes away for years is truly heartbreaking.
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hope he stays from the aryan gangs in prison.
Not sure you get much of a choice in prison. You roll with the car that they put you in.
When I was in rehab with a bunch of prison dudes everybody had to be in a "car". I told 'em I drove the Mary Kay Car and they got a kick out of that and left me alone.
I used to be an assistant for college students with special needs, and one of the classes I sat in on was a Criminal Justice course taught by someone who served time in prison. He saved his story for the very last day of class, and among all the fucked up stuff he told us the encounter that probably stuck with me the most was his encounter with Neo-Nazis.
He was (is) a tough looking bald dude, so naturally he attracted those kinds of people, and when they tried recruiting him he told them to fuck off. Later that evening he was working in the cafeteria and about a dozen of them jumped him, knocked him out, and tattoo'd a Swastika on his neck. He got medical attention and later a removal/cover up, but they were otherwise pretty unsympathetic to the whole situation.
Cory messed up, and I'm sure this has not been an easy year for him, but I really hope his experience doesn't include this kind of misfortune. It's not what Preston would have wanted.
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I remember that even though his Beware of Sasquatch part was next level incredible, a large amount of people on this board were hating on him until he kind of adopted the boozy, slacker party guy persona.
The irony.
#RIPPStone
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pretty intense... this sucks for everyone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLKNwlrMJ88
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Source of video above with no frame rate issues:
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/skateboarder-cory-kennedy-sentenced-to-four-years-in-prison-after-killing-friend-in-dui-crash/824915029
Bummer for all everyone involved.
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Source of video above with no frame rate issues:
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/skateboarder-cory-kennedy-sentenced-to-four-years-in-prison-after-killing-friend-in-dui-crash/824915029
Bummer for all everyone involved.
interesting. this kinda of changes the framework of the discussion.
That said, this kinda sums it up, from PStones wife
"But Maigetter's widow, Anna Cobb, spoke for the prosecution.
“One day, you’re going to have kids and you’re going to understand the depths of this. I know you didn't mean to do it and I love you,” she said.""
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Man. Heavy, but honestly could've been so much worse. I was expecting 7-10 yrs given the strict DUI laws in Washington.
RIP P-Stone
Accidentally killing your friend must be worse than any prison sentence.
This. And drugs/alcohol are the devil. They're all fun and games until shit like this happens and completely ruins your life/several lives...
I've been straight edge all my life, not to be a preaching asshole, but because it fits my personality best.
Apart from that I do know we all fight our demons our own ways:
some people like me stare them in the eye and some poeple try to numb them with narcotics, which will work for them as well.
Whatever gets you through life... just don't let them take control :(
This isn't about justice as this is truly tragic.
And as much I'm against drinking and driving and I said 'I told you so!' I REALLY hope Cory gets some psychological help. Wouldn't be the first dude that commits suicide out of guilt in this type of situation...
Listening? I can't remember myself posting a spoken memo on here?
And where exactly did I say something that triggers you (or that other kook) to state such a reaction?
Because I said it was the devil? What's wrong if I call it that when I've literally seen beautiful women get turned into walking skeletons because of drugs, seen guys waste away because of alcohol addiction, seen kids and wifes get assaulted because their dad/husband is a drunk etc.
A dude is going to jail for 4 years, another man/father died.
And than you get 'offended' when somebody shines a light on the 'bad side of partying', is that really how self-absorbed you are? That you feel 'called out' or your image got dented all while this tragedy is happening to someone else?
Djeez dude. This isn't even 'a straight edge thing'. It's just common sense and logic.
Is that me saying that everyone that drinks or does drugs sucks? No
Is that me saying that accidents don't happen? No
Is this tragic and extremely sad for all parties involved? Yes
To each his own, but be responsible and stop glorifying and stimulating this behaviour (Thrasher, 'sup?)Simple
And now tell me again where I wrote something 'wrong' and became 'a preacher' in your opinion?
You are making mountains out of mole hills my friend. I am not a self absorbed person and I do not feel called out one bit. And I also don’t care that you have never messed with drugs or alcohol. Good for you, that’s a a major accomplishment in my opinion.
I have a beautiful wife and daughter at home and come from a father that was constantly fucked up on drugs and alcohol and I told myself I WOULD NEVER end up like that. He passed away in may from a heroin overdose in the streets of Baltimore. No money, no belongings, and nobody cared. It took police 2 weeks to even find anybody that knew him.
Don’t talk to me like I don’t know the bad side of partying because my fathers party never stopped and it cost him his life. And even though he was an asshole when he was alive I will always remember the good times when he was clean.
Where I was triggered is when you said “now not to be a preaching asshole” when you were clearly preaching. Could you kindly point out where I glorified any type of behavior in my previous two sentence response?
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pretty intense... this sucks for everyone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLKNwlrMJ88
This is so sad. You can see the sadness and guilt in Cory’s eyes in all the recent photos posted to Instagram by his friends.
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Why the fuck is everyone using the 'Free CK 1' hashtag? How is that not insanely offensive to Prestons memory? "I know there was a terrible accident, and P Stone died, but there should be 0 repercussions"
When you are good at something that a lot of people aren't people's moral compass go out the window. Same reason why people pretend Ben Roethlisberger isn't a rapist. Hell, it took 3 Chappelle Show skits and a Boondocks episode for people to really understand how fucked up R.Kelly is.
Not saying CK's character is in the same category. The news report shows that he's very remorseful of his mistake...but a free ck hashtag as if he was wrongly convicted does come from that talent worship mentality.
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free ck and max b
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Why the fuck is everyone using the 'Free CK 1' hashtag? How is that not insanely offensive to Prestons memory? "I know there was a terrible accident, and P Stone died, but there should be 0 repercussions"
do you get a boner by someone else having a bad day?
i'm not gonna speak for a dead man but i doubt he'd want his friend in jail and i bet he'd be pissed if people were using his death as an excuse to promote teetotalling and shame drinking. p-stone found what he loved and let it kill him.
Preston may not have wanted Cory to end up in jail, but, we as a society need deterrents. It is to let people know, if you make a mistake like this, even if you are a good, upstanding citizen you will be punished. I feel terrible for Cory, as I did for Ali. But, if their stories get out and stop a couple kids from driving drunk and killing their friends, their jail time as a deterrent is worth it.
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Why the fuck is everyone using the 'Free CK 1' hashtag? How is that not insanely offensive to Prestons memory? "I know there was a terrible accident, and P Stone died, but there should be 0 repercussions"
When you are good at something that a lot of people aren't people's moral compass go out the window. Same reason why people pretend Ben Roethlisberger isn't a rapist. Hell, it took 3 Chappelle Show skits and a Boondocks episode for people to really understand how fucked up R.Kelly is.
Not saying CK's character is in the same category. The news report shows that he's very remorseful of his mistake...but a free ck hashtag as if he was wrongly convicted does come from that talent worship mentality.
100%, and it does everyone involved a disservice
watching that report, 4 years is a lot better than 8-11 years, out in 2021 with good behavior, all things considered this is a pretty lenient sentence
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yeah, was going to post something similar. let's be grateful he's only serving 4.
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The #freeck1 thing is tone deaf. It makes it seem like he didn’t do anything wrong and is imprisoned wrongly. I can’t imagine what a lot of family member and close friends of p stone feel when they see that.
I know most of the people using it don’t mean that but it’s not a good look.
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Drunk drivers should be given the electric chair. They are a blight on society.
"But, but Preston wouldn't have wanted Cory to serve time!"
Hmm, I guess we'll never know the answer to that seeing how Cory killed him.
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https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/skateboarder-cory-kennedy-sentenced-to-four-years-in-prison-after-killing-friend-in-dui-crash/824915029
Bummer for all everyone involved.
interesting. this kinda of changes the framework of the discussion.
That said, this kinda sums it up, from PStones wife
"But Maigetter's widow, Anna Cobb, spoke for the prosecution.
“One day, you’re going to have kids and you’re going to understand the depths of this. I know you didn't mean to do it and I love you,” she said.""
This right here confirmed a lot of the feelings I already had about this case. She may care for cory, but she isnt cool with the situation at all, she wants repercussions and him to be held accountable, which is how skateboarding should be treating it. Of course he is a great person but you cant live without consequences, especially when the widow agrees. "this isnt what preston would have wanted" doesnt hold much weight considering preston also drunk drove constantly. obviously not the same, but a drug addict wouldnt want another drug addict persecuted.
Heart goes out to cory, hope he can serve his sentence in peace and come out the same person he was before. Skateboarding will be waiting with open arms.
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I don’t think this accident has that much to do with drinking. He wasn’t wasted. If you think he should of called an Uber after having a beer at a skatepark on a Pacific Northwest Island then well good for you.
I agree, and personally I think it's a shame that the focus is almost 100% on the alcohol rather than reckless driving. Everyone knows you are a piece of shit if you drive drunk (you would never see drunk driving on someone's instagram), but reckless driving is still venerated in a way.
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that news report is one of the saddest things i've ever seen in our stupid skate world.
Jenkem just put out an article about this whole thing,
and in the middle of it, it states that CK gave his fucking house to Anna and the kids.
i feel so sad for everyone involved.
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Source of video above with no frame rate issues:
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/skateboarder-cory-kennedy-sentenced-to-four-years-in-prison-after-killing-friend-in-dui-crash/824915029
Bummer for all everyone involved.
interesting. this kinda of changes the framework of the discussion.
That said, this kinda sums it up, from PStones wife
"But Maigetter's widow, Anna Cobb, spoke for the prosecution.
“One day, you’re going to have kids and you’re going to understand the depths of this. I know you didn't mean to do it and I love you,” she said.""
This right here confirmed a lot of the feelings I already had about this case. She may care for cory, but she isnt cool with the situation at all, she wants repercussions and him to be held accountable, which is how skateboarding should be treating it. Of course he is a great person but you cant live without consequences, especially when the widow agrees. "this isnt what preston would have wanted" doesnt hold much weight considering preston also drunk drove constantly. obviously not the same, but a drug addict wouldnt want another drug addict persecuted.
Heart goes out to cory, hope he can serve his sentence in peace and come out the same person he was before. Skateboarding will be waiting with open arms.
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I don’t think this accident has that much to do with drinking. He wasn’t wasted. If you think he should of called an Uber after having a beer at a skatepark on a Pacific Northwest Island then well good for you.
I agree, and personally I think it's a shame that the focus is almost 100% on the alcohol rather than reckless driving. Everyone knows you are a piece of shit if you drive drunk (you would never see drunk driving on someone's instagram), but reckless driving is still venerated in a way.
That’s what I’m saying. Driving super fast is fun as fuck but super dangerous like crazy dangerous. I’m gonna get called out for this but if Cory was really drunk he wouldn’t test speed and curves like that. He was over the limit but basically sober, this is more about driving fast. Speed kills. RIP Paul Walker, P-Stone #3
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Source of video above with no frame rate issues:
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/skateboarder-cory-kennedy-sentenced-to-four-years-in-prison-after-killing-friend-in-dui-crash/824915029
Bummer for all everyone involved.
interesting. this kinda of changes the framework of the discussion.
That said, this kinda sums it up, from PStones wife
"But Maigetter's widow, Anna Cobb, spoke for the prosecution.
“One day, you’re going to have kids and you’re going to understand the depths of this. I know you didn't mean to do it and I love you,” she said.""
This right here confirmed a lot of the feelings I already had about this case. She may care for cory, but she isnt cool with the situation at all, she wants repercussions and him to be held accountable, which is how skateboarding should be treating it. Of course he is a great person but you cant live without consequences, especially when the widow agrees. "this isnt what preston would have wanted" doesnt hold much weight considering preston also drunk drove constantly. obviously not the same, but a drug addict wouldnt want another drug addict persecuted.
Heart goes out to cory, hope he can serve his sentence in peace and come out the same person he was before. Skateboarding will be waiting with open arms.
agreed
Yip
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Please stop posting here, everytime I see this thread on top I think its the news about terry kennedy and click on it.
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that news report is one of the saddest things i've ever seen in our stupid skate world.
Jenkem just put out an article about this whole thing,
and in the middle of it, it states that CK gave his fucking house to Anna and the kids.
i feel so sad for everyone involved.
one of two houses
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I don’t think this accident has that much to do with drinking. He wasn’t wasted. If you think he should of called an Uber after having a beer at a skatepark on a Pacific Northwest Island then well good for you.
I agree, and personally I think it's a shame that the focus is almost 100% on the alcohol rather than reckless driving. Everyone knows you are a piece of shit if you drive drunk (you would never see drunk driving on someone's instagram), but reckless driving is still venerated in a way.
That’s what I’m saying. Driving super fast is fun as fuck but super dangerous like crazy dangerous. I’m gonna get called out for this but if Cory was really drunk he wouldn’t test speed and curves like that. He was over the limit but basically sober, this is more about driving fast. Speed kills. RIP Paul Walker, P-Stone #3
I'm just wondering, are you saying this because you know how Cory drives or is it an assumption people don't drive insanely fast while drunk? Because if its the latter, than I'd say that is an absurd assumption. Just look at the Ryan Dunn accident, he was like .196 and going 140 mph.
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I saw on Jenkem the guy Ian who runs it said he wants to rob a store in Corys hometown just so he can butt bang him. Look it up if you don't believe
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I don’t think this accident has that much to do with drinking. He wasn’t wasted. If you think he should of called an Uber after having a beer at a skatepark on a Pacific Northwest Island then well good for you.
I agree, and personally I think it's a shame that the focus is almost 100% on the alcohol rather than reckless driving. Everyone knows you are a piece of shit if you drive drunk (you would never see drunk driving on someone's instagram), but reckless driving is still venerated in a way.
That’s what I’m saying. Driving super fast is fun as fuck but super dangerous like crazy dangerous. I’m gonna get called out for this but if Cory was really drunk he wouldn’t test speed and curves like that. He was over the limit but basically sober, this is more about driving fast. Speed kills. RIP Paul Walker, P-Stone #3
According to what I've read he'd had reckless driving tickets, don't know if that's true, but I'll go ahead and assume he drives too fast and that that's the main aspect in this tragedy. I just don't think a .10 is gonna turn a safe driver into someone who goes full speed into a tree. I'll go ahead and believe that Ryan Dunn also drove too fast, intoxicated or not. I believe a lot of things I can't verify, so it is what it is. Not trying to downplay drunk driving, but driving sober is just one step in being a responsible driver.
Quick example: Ishod Wair just posted in his story some car speeding and then a picture of Cory Kennedy next, bad taste in my opinion, but he probably didn't even think about it that way.
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cory is strong. Minds his own business, have commissary and just roll with it all the time he will come out good.
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I don’t think this accident has that much to do with drinking. He wasn’t wasted. If you think he should of called an Uber after having a beer at a skatepark on a Pacific Northwest Island then well good for you.
I agree, and personally I think it's a shame that the focus is almost 100% on the alcohol rather than reckless driving. Everyone knows you are a piece of shit if you drive drunk (you would never see drunk driving on someone's instagram), but reckless driving is still venerated in a way.
That’s what I’m saying. Driving super fast is fun as fuck but super dangerous like crazy dangerous. I’m gonna get called out for this but if Cory was really drunk he wouldn’t test speed and curves like that. He was over the limit but basically sober, this is more about driving fast. Speed kills. RIP Paul Walker, P-Stone #3
According to what I've read he'd had reckless driving tickets, don't know if that's true, but I'll go ahead and assume he drives too fast and that that's the main aspect in this tragedy. I just don't think a .10 is gonna turn a safe driver into someone who goes full speed into a tree. I'll go ahead and believe that Ryan Dunn also drove too fast, intoxicated or not. I believe a lot of things I can't verify, so it is what it is. Not trying to downplay drunk driving, but driving sober is just one step in being a responsible driver.
Quick example: Ishod Wair just posted in his story some car speeding and then a picture of Cory Kennedy next, bad taste in my opinion, but he probably didn't even think about it that way.
Taking the drunk driving out of the equation on that basis is completely unjustified. People have different tolerances, but .1 isn't nothing, even if it doesn't indicate blacked out drunkeness it's still a significant percentage. I really don't understand this drive to minimize the fact that he was drunk, unless it's an attempt to justify driving after a couple drinks so you don't have to feel guilty about it yourself. I am making an assumption, and hope I'm wrong. In case I'm right though, rest assured, if you drive after a few drinks, it's a shitty decision. Every time.
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I don’t think this accident has that much to do with drinking. He wasn’t wasted. If you think he should of called an Uber after having a beer at a skatepark on a Pacific Northwest Island then well good for you.
I agree, and personally I think it's a shame that the focus is almost 100% on the alcohol rather than reckless driving. Everyone knows you are a piece of shit if you drive drunk (you would never see drunk driving on someone's instagram), but reckless driving is still venerated in a way.
That’s what I’m saying. Driving super fast is fun as fuck but super dangerous like crazy dangerous. I’m gonna get called out for this but if Cory was really drunk he wouldn’t test speed and curves like that. He was over the limit but basically sober, this is more about driving fast. Speed kills. RIP Paul Walker, P-Stone #3
According to what I've read he'd had reckless driving tickets, don't know if that's true, but I'll go ahead and assume he drives too fast and that that's the main aspect in this tragedy. I just don't think a .10 is gonna turn a safe driver into someone who goes full speed into a tree. I'll go ahead and believe that Ryan Dunn also drove too fast, intoxicated or not. I believe a lot of things I can't verify, so it is what it is. Not trying to downplay drunk driving, but driving sober is just one step in being a responsible driver.
Quick example: Ishod Wair just posted in his story some car speeding and then a picture of Cory Kennedy next, bad taste in my opinion, but he probably didn't even think about it that way.
Taking the drunk driving out of the equation on that basis is completely unjustified. People have different tolerances, but .1 isn't nothing, even if it doesn't indicate blacked out drunkeness it's still a significant percentage. I really don't understand this drive to minimize the fact that he was drunk, unless it's an attempt to justify driving after a couple drinks so you don't have to feel guilty about it yourself. I am making an assumption, and hope I'm wrong. In case I'm right though, rest assured, if you drive after a few drinks, it's a shitty decision. Every time.
But people drive on opiates weed xanax etc all the time.
I'm fuckin with ya and totally agree, but yeah, it's a total double standard
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I don’t think this accident has that much to do with drinking. He wasn’t wasted. If you think he should of called an Uber after having a beer at a skatepark on a Pacific Northwest Island then well good for you.
I agree, and personally I think it's a shame that the focus is almost 100% on the alcohol rather than reckless driving. Everyone knows you are a piece of shit if you drive drunk (you would never see drunk driving on someone's instagram), but reckless driving is still venerated in a way.
That’s what I’m saying. Driving super fast is fun as fuck but super dangerous like crazy dangerous. I’m gonna get called out for this but if Cory was really drunk he wouldn’t test speed and curves like that. He was over the limit but basically sober, this is more about driving fast. Speed kills. RIP Paul Walker, P-Stone #3
According to what I've read he'd had reckless driving tickets, don't know if that's true, but I'll go ahead and assume he drives too fast and that that's the main aspect in this tragedy. I just don't think a .10 is gonna turn a safe driver into someone who goes full speed into a tree. I'll go ahead and believe that Ryan Dunn also drove too fast, intoxicated or not. I believe a lot of things I can't verify, so it is what it is. Not trying to downplay drunk driving, but driving sober is just one step in being a responsible driver.
Quick example: Ishod Wair just posted in his story some car speeding and then a picture of Cory Kennedy next, bad taste in my opinion, but he probably didn't even think about it that way.
I don't think that's how you can really balance the equation like that. Fact is, in both cases they drove reckless or too fast, but in both cases they were also drunk (in Ryan Dunns case, obliterated). I think both should be acknowledged. If Cory drove too fast often, the time that caused this terrible accident he was drunk.
Look, I get the message you are trying to spread, but I think you are doing the opposite argument. You are downplaying drunk driving in an attempt to play up reckless driving. Both were serious contributors to what happened. I'll also go out on a limb here, and say P-Stone not wearing a seat belt probably played a part.
Having had a friend die, primarily because he didn't have a seatbelt on (they were driving reckless, but he's at worst leave with a broken collarbone if he was strapped in), I never forget to click-in my seatbelt anymore. I hope people look at those 3 factors and acknowledge all of them, and don't make similar mistakes
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danny dee on backup
druggie free so put the crack up
no need for speed
i'm anti d-r-u-g-g-i-e
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I don’t think this accident has that much to do with drinking. He wasn’t wasted. If you think he should of called an Uber after having a beer at a skatepark on a Pacific Northwest Island then well good for you.
I agree, and personally I think it's a shame that the focus is almost 100% on the alcohol rather than reckless driving. Everyone knows you are a piece of shit if you drive drunk (you would never see drunk driving on someone's instagram), but reckless driving is still venerated in a way.
That’s what I’m saying. Driving super fast is fun as fuck but super dangerous like crazy dangerous. I’m gonna get called out for this but if Cory was really drunk he wouldn’t test speed and curves like that. He was over the limit but basically sober, this is more about driving fast. Speed kills. RIP Paul Walker, P-Stone #3
According to what I've read he'd had reckless driving tickets, don't know if that's true, but I'll go ahead and assume he drives too fast and that that's the main aspect in this tragedy. I just don't think a .10 is gonna turn a safe driver into someone who goes full speed into a tree. I'll go ahead and believe that Ryan Dunn also drove too fast, intoxicated or not. I believe a lot of things I can't verify, so it is what it is. Not trying to downplay drunk driving, but driving sober is just one step in being a responsible driver.
Quick example: Ishod Wair just posted in his story some car speeding and then a picture of Cory Kennedy next, bad taste in my opinion, but he probably didn't even think about it that way.
No. But a .10 could throw your coordination off just enough to miss a tight turn and go flying off the road. The alcohol may not have been what caused him to drive reckless. But It definitely played at a minimum, a small factor in this crash.
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danny dee on backup
druggie free so put the crack up
no need for speed
i'm anti d-r-u-g-g-i-e
Have you been in my car lately? Cause that song been getting heavy rotation this week.
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Why the fuck is everyone using the 'Free CK 1' hashtag? How is that not insanely offensive to Prestons memory? "I know there was a terrible accident, and P Stone died, but there should be 0 repercussions"
do you get a boner by someone else having a bad day?
i'm not gonna speak for a dead man but i doubt he'd want his friend in jail and i bet he'd be pissed if people were using his death as an excuse to promote teetotalling and shame drinking. p-stone found what he loved and let it kill him.
Cory wouldn't be out killing any more friends either if he didn't get sentenced. You really think he's gonna make the same mistake again unless he sits in jail for four years? Fuck prisons. The remorse he feels is enough as it is, he won't be learning any additional lesson by wasting four years locked up.
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Why the fuck is everyone using the 'Free CK 1' hashtag? How is that not insanely offensive to Prestons memory? "I know there was a terrible accident, and P Stone died, but there should be 0 repercussions"
do you get a boner by someone else having a bad day?
i'm not gonna speak for a dead man but i doubt he'd want his friend in jail and i bet he'd be pissed if people were using his death as an excuse to promote teetotalling and shame drinking. p-stone found what he loved and let it kill him.
You are creating a strawman. I wasn't saying anything about Cory's likelihood of reoffending.
Its a deterrent to other people from committing the same act Cory did that led to a death. Jail sentences aren't just punishment on an individual, they are also a deterrent to society as a whole to not make those kinds of mistakes. Hell, most killers who commit the act in a heat of passion (domestic situations), are unlikely to kill again. That doesn't mean we should be leniant on them because of that.
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I don’t think this accident has that much to do with drinking. He wasn’t wasted. If you think he should of called an Uber after having a beer at a skatepark on a Pacific Northwest Island then well good for you.
I agree, and personally I think it's a shame that the focus is almost 100% on the alcohol rather than reckless driving. Everyone knows you are a piece of shit if you drive drunk (you would never see drunk driving on someone's instagram), but reckless driving is still venerated in a way.
That’s what I’m saying. Driving super fast is fun as fuck but super dangerous like crazy dangerous. I’m gonna get called out for this but if Cory was really drunk he wouldn’t test speed and curves like that. He was over the limit but basically sober, this is more about driving fast. Speed kills. RIP Paul Walker, P-Stone #3
According to what I've read he'd had reckless driving tickets, don't know if that's true, but I'll go ahead and assume he drives too fast and that that's the main aspect in this tragedy. I just don't think a .10 is gonna turn a safe driver into someone who goes full speed into a tree. I'll go ahead and believe that Ryan Dunn also drove too fast, intoxicated or not. I believe a lot of things I can't verify, so it is what it is. Not trying to downplay drunk driving, but driving sober is just one step in being a responsible driver.
Quick example: Ishod Wair just posted in his story some car speeding and then a picture of Cory Kennedy next, bad taste in my opinion, but he probably didn't even think about it that way.
Taking the drunk driving out of the equation on that basis is completely unjustified. People have different tolerances, but .1 isn't nothing, even if it doesn't indicate blacked out drunkeness it's still a significant percentage. I really don't understand this drive to minimize the fact that he was drunk, unless it's an attempt to justify driving after a couple drinks so you don't have to feel guilty about it yourself. I am making an assumption, and hope I'm wrong. In case I'm right though, rest assured, if you drive after a few drinks, it's a shitty decision. Every time.
But people drive on opiates weed xanax etc all the time.
I'm fuckin with ya and totally agree, but yeah, it's a total double standard
"don't mention cocaine heroin and speed in the same breath as weed cause nobody ever OD'd" Smoking and vaping and driving is a go but if you have too many edibles that could be bad i Guess.
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It isn't unlikely that reckless driving played a bigger role in this, but who in this thread knows really. Not sure we should scold those mentioning it though, who does that help? Similar to P-stone's crime, which might be good to mention in addition to Cory's. Wear a seatbelt pals.
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If I drive after a few beers I drive like its my license test. Come to a complete stop at each stop sign and drive exactly the speed limit, I probably put on my blinker a half block early.
When I’m sober I’ll push the 93 turdbo to 120 mph while I’m texting my grandma about Keno numbers.
Thug Life
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If I drive after a few beers I drive like its my license test. Come to a complete stop at each stop sign and drive exactly the speed limit, I probably put on my blinker a half block early.
When I’m sober I’ll push the 93 turdbo to 120 mph while I’m texting my grandma about Keno numbers.
Thug Life
Thug life? -using jokes to normalize that ur a fuck face fuckyou we all heard this shit a million times from a million people dude.
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This is still so surreal. Hope CK finds peace one day, along with everyone else involved. Life hurts.
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If I drive after a few beers I drive like its my license test. Come to a complete stop at each stop sign and drive exactly the speed limit, I probably put on my blinker a half block early.
When I’m sober I’ll push the 93 turdbo to 120 mph while I’m texting my grandma about Keno numbers.
Thug Life
This coming from a guy who gives cigarettes to little kids at the beach.
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To get this back on track. This is a horrible situation and Cory has to live with it and Preston’s wife and kids have to live without him. I’m just trying to express my opinion that pushing it while driving fast especially around curves is fun and impressive to passengers. That’s what this is about, not alcohol. If you know about driving, drunk or sober. pushing your car fast around corners it’s super fun, scary and dangerous. If Cory was drunk he would not have pushed it like that. It’s reckless driving with the dui a technicality.
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I love Cory's skating and his personality but why should I feel bad that you're being punished? Somebody lost their life because you were reckless and stupid. It's all very sad. A man is dead in the grave because you made stupid decisions. He had family and friends and loved ones. And now he's dead. He's fucking dead but in 4 years you can kickflip on the street. I hope you learn from this Cory and grow as a person. Best wishes to you.
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To get this back on track. This is a horrible situation and Cory has to live with it and Preston’s wife and kids have to live without him. I’m just trying to express my opinion that pushing it while driving fast especially around curves is fun and impressive to passengers. That’s what this is about, not alcohol. If you know about driving, drunk or sober. pushing your car fast around corners it’s super fun, scary and dangerous. If Cory was drunk he would not have pushed it like that. It’s reckless driving with the dui a technicality.
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To get this back on track. This is a horrible situation and Cory has to live with it and Preston’s wife and kids have to live without him. I’m just trying to express my opinion that pushing it while driving fast especially around curves is fun and impressive to passengers. That’s what this is about, not alcohol. If you know about driving, drunk or sober. pushing your car fast around corners it’s super fun, scary and dangerous. If Cory was drunk he would not have pushed it like that. It’s reckless driving with the dui a technicality.
This is false in most circumstances, when most people are drunk they are way more likely to drive carelessly because their judgement is impaired and they are more likely to not think of the repercussions. Also Im sure I'm not alone in thinking that pushing it while driving fast around corners is not fun or impressive, more stupid, scary and puts everyone else on the road in danger.
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.10 isn’t even drunk at all. Doesn’t matter in the eyes of everyone, it seems. I got a DUI like an idiot and my BAC was .25. Luckily I didn’t hurt anyone, but just the thought of it makes me feel like shit. It was his driving that caused the accident, not his drunkness. P-Stone may have even lived had he had his seatbelt on. Either way, it’s fucked up. RIP P-Stone and Godspeed to Cory.
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the system is so fucked up. .10 aint shit. first time offense shouldn't have gotten jail time at all. i could see maybe some community service, but that's totally fucked up in my eyes.
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the system is so fucked up. .10 aint shit. first time offense shouldn't have gotten jail time at all. i could see maybe some community service, but that's totally fucked up in my eyes.
Maybe, if someone didn’t die. That’s a whole different ballgame.
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.10 isn’t even drunk at all. Doesn’t matter in the eyes of everyone, it seems. I got a DUI like an idiot and my BAC was .25. Luckily I didn’t hurt anyone, but just the thought of it makes me feel like shit. It was his driving that caused the accident, not his drunkness. P-Stone may have even lived had he had his seatbelt on. Either way, it’s fucked up. RIP P-Stone and Godspeed to Cory.
I can't believe I'm weighing in on this as it's been beaten to death, but .1 is definitely too tipsy to be driving. Tolerance or not. Anyone who says otherwise has no idea what they're talking about and is an idiot/deluded.
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.10 isn’t even drunk at all. Doesn’t matter in the eyes of everyone, it seems. I got a DUI like an idiot and my BAC was .25. Luckily I didn’t hurt anyone, but just the thought of it makes me feel like shit. It was his driving that caused the accident, not his drunkness. P-Stone may have even lived had he had his seatbelt on. Either way, it’s fucked up. RIP P-Stone and Godspeed to Cory.
I can't believe I'm weighing in on this as it's been beaten to death, but .1 is definitely too tipsy to be driving. Tolerance or not. Anyone who says otherwise has no idea what they're talking about and is an idiot/deluded.
yeah, I was biting my tongue on that post fo'sho. Get an Asian at .1 and see how absolutely maggot some of them can be. Even for 0.05, it depends on the person. I'm lucky to drink once a month these days so me after 2 beers in a car would be potentially quite dangerous. Complain all you like but zero tolerance laws seem to be the way to go imho
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It would make sense for drinking and driving to be illegal.
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.10 isn’t even drunk at all. Doesn’t matter in the eyes of everyone, it seems. I got a DUI like an idiot and my BAC was .25. Luckily I didn’t hurt anyone, but just the thought of it makes me feel like shit. It was his driving that caused the accident, not his drunkness. P-Stone may have even lived had he had his seatbelt on. Either way, it’s fucked up. RIP P-Stone and Godspeed to Cory.
I can't believe I'm weighing in on this as it's been beaten to death, but .1 is definitely too tipsy to be driving. Tolerance or not. Anyone who says otherwise has no idea what they're talking about and is an idiot/deluded.
It’s not. That’s like a couple of beers. That’s not drunk, my man. Slightly impaired, but not drunk. People go to dinner and have a couple glasses of wine/beer/sake and you could potentially blow over the legal.08. You can take a sip of listerine and blow over the limit. Either way, you’re in the wrong with anything in your system. He shouldn’t have been behind the wheel, and it’s known he drove recklessly in the past. I know what I’m talking about, I’m a goddamn RN in a neurological ICU. Not making excuses here, just saying he wasn’t wasted. He drove recklessly and had a tragic accident. A life was lost, but it was his driving behavior that caused that. And P-Stone would have potentially lived had he had a seatbelt on, but that’s a non issue at this point.
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.10 isn’t even drunk at all. Doesn’t matter in the eyes of everyone, it seems. I got a DUI like an idiot and my BAC was .25. Luckily I didn’t hurt anyone, but just the thought of it makes me feel like shit. It was his driving that caused the accident, not his drunkness. P-Stone may have even lived had he had his seatbelt on. Either way, it’s fucked up. RIP P-Stone and Godspeed to Cory.
I can't believe I'm weighing in on this as it's been beaten to death, but .1 is definitely too tipsy to be driving. Tolerance or not. Anyone who says otherwise has no idea what they're talking about and is an idiot/deluded.
It’s not. That’s like a couple of beers. That’s not drunk, my man. Slightly impaired, but not drunk. People go to dinner and have a couple glasses of wine/beer/sake and you could potentially blow over the legal.08. You can take a sip of listerine and blow over the limit. Either way, you’re in the wrong with anything in your system. He shouldn’t have been behind the wheel, and it’s known he drove recklessly in the past. I know what I’m talking about, I’m a goddamn RN in a neurological ICU. Not making excuses here, just saying he wasn’t wasted. He drove recklessly and had a tragic accident. A life was lost, but it was his driving behavior that caused that. And P-Stone would have potentially lived had he had a seatbelt on, but that’s a non issue at this point.
I'm not saying that either you'll notice. I said tipsy. i.e, intoxicated enough to not be fully on the ball. I hate laws as much as the next guy who thinks they're tough cos they ride a skateboard, but the limit here in Australia is .05 and I think that's spot on. .05 as a general rule is 2 standard drinks the first hour and one thereafter. Less for women and small cunts. Now I'm a seasoned drinker/recovering alcoholic, and the few times I've drunk since quitting my O.T.T boozing ways, I can feel two drinks effecting me. I would not recommend driving after three in an hour although I have several times and felt like a total shitcunt the next day.
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I feel you. Not trying to downplay this at all. People are making it seem he was Boulala wasted when this happened, which isn’t the case. Just a tragic accident. Could’ve happened sober or not.
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i still think one of an important fatal factor is that the seat belt wasnt on? does anyone know the "exact" course of the accident? Even the "smallest" crash can be fatal, when not wearing a seat belt, that's a crucial thing
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.10 isn’t even drunk at all. Doesn’t matter in the eyes of everyone, it seems. I got a DUI like an idiot and my BAC was .25. Luckily I didn’t hurt anyone, but just the thought of it makes me feel like shit. It was his driving that caused the accident, not his drunkness. P-Stone may have even lived had he had his seatbelt on. Either way, it’s fucked up. RIP P-Stone and Godspeed to Cory.
I can't believe I'm weighing in on this as it's been beaten to death, but .1 is definitely too tipsy to be driving. Tolerance or not. Anyone who says otherwise has no idea what they're talking about and is an idiot/deluded.
It’s not. That’s like a couple of beers. That’s not drunk, my man. Slightly impaired, but not drunk. People go to dinner and have a couple glasses of wine/beer/sake and you could potentially blow over the legal.08. You can take a sip of listerine and blow over the limit. Either way, you’re in the wrong with anything in your system. He shouldn’t have been behind the wheel, and it’s known he drove recklessly in the past. I know what I’m talking about, I’m a goddamn RN in a neurological ICU. Not making excuses here, just saying he wasn’t wasted. He drove recklessly and had a tragic accident. A life was lost, but it was his driving behavior that caused that. And P-Stone would have potentially lived had he had a seatbelt on, but that’s a non issue at this point.
You are a fucking idiot.
The facts are staring you in the face and yet you keep digging.
PS - your glorious nursing career? It doesn't mean anything in this discussion. The driver was impaired and his actions killed a man. So guess what, he's in prison. Take the L, kook.
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I’m not making excuses at all, man. I’m just saying that .10 is hardly drunk. Impaired, yes. People are making it seem like he was black out wasted. He shouldn’t have been behind the wheel, of course. I never advocated that. Don’t make it out to seem like it’s more than it isn’t. Just my own opinion, and you can shit on it all you want but I think his driving was the issue. He had gotten multiple moving violations prior to this, and considering he was driving on roads he knows he probably felt comfortable driving a bit reckless. And had P-Stone been wearing a seatbelt this’d just be another crazy story to be told over a bonfire. Just shitty all the way around. I wasn’t there, none of us were, so who knows? He just wasn’t as trashed as people make him out to be.
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well he's in jail now so I guess it doesn't matter. but from that video its nice to know that his sentence was reduced from 8-10 years to 4 based on testimonials from p-stones family. I think that says a lot right there.
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I love Cory's skating and his personality but why should I feel bad that you're being punished? Somebody lost their life because you were reckless and stupid. It's all very sad. A man is dead in the grave because you made stupid decisions. He had family and friends and loved ones. And now he's dead. He's fucking dead but in 4 years you can kickflip on the street. I hope you learn from this Cory and grow as a person. Best wishes to you.
The people saying stuff like "he already feels bad enough, this is too much" are dumb as fuck.
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.10 isn’t even drunk at all. Doesn’t matter in the eyes of everyone, it seems. I got a DUI like an idiot and my BAC was .25. Luckily I didn’t hurt anyone, but just the thought of it makes me feel like shit. It was his driving that caused the accident, not his drunkness. P-Stone may have even lived had he had his seatbelt on. Either way, it’s fucked up. RIP P-Stone and Godspeed to Cory.
I can't believe I'm weighing in on this as it's been beaten to death, but .1 is definitely too tipsy to be driving. Tolerance or not. Anyone who says otherwise has no idea what they're talking about and is an idiot/deluded.
It’s not. That’s like a couple of beers. That’s not drunk, my man. Slightly impaired, but not drunk. People go to dinner and have a couple glasses of wine/beer/sake and you could potentially blow over the legal.08. You can take a sip of listerine and blow over the limit. Either way, you’re in the wrong with anything in your system. He shouldn’t have been behind the wheel, and it’s known he drove recklessly in the past. I know what I’m talking about, I’m a goddamn RN in a neurological ICU. Not making excuses here, just saying he wasn’t wasted. He drove recklessly and had a tragic accident. A life was lost, but it was his driving behavior that caused that. And P-Stone would have potentially lived had he had a seatbelt on, but that’s a non issue at this point.
I'm not saying that either you'll notice. I said tipsy. i.e, intoxicated enough to not be fully on the ball. I hate laws as much as the next guy who thinks they're tough cos they ride a skateboard, but the limit here in Australia is .05 and I think that's spot on. .05 as a general rule is 2 standard drinks the first hour and one thereafter. Less for women and small cunts. Now I'm a seasoned drinker/recovering alcoholic, and the few times I've drunk since quitting my O.T.T boozing ways, I can feel two drinks effecting me. I would not recommend driving after three in an hour although I have several times and felt like a total shitcunt the next day.
I don’t feel like reading any of this but I think it’s great Batman and robin are going back and forth.
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.10 isn’t even drunk at all. Doesn’t matter in the eyes of everyone, it seems. I got a DUI like an idiot and my BAC was .25. Luckily I didn’t hurt anyone, but just the thought of it makes me feel like shit. It was his driving that caused the accident, not his drunkness. P-Stone may have even lived had he had his seatbelt on. Either way, it’s fucked up. RIP P-Stone and Godspeed to Cory.
I can't believe I'm weighing in on this as it's been beaten to death, but .1 is definitely too tipsy to be driving. Tolerance or not. Anyone who says otherwise has no idea what they're talking about and is an idiot/deluded.
It’s not. That’s like a couple of beers. That’s not drunk, my man. Slightly impaired, but not drunk. People go to dinner and have a couple glasses of wine/beer/sake and you could potentially blow over the legal.08. You can take a sip of listerine and blow over the limit. Either way, you’re in the wrong with anything in your system. He shouldn’t have been behind the wheel, and it’s known he drove recklessly in the past. I know what I’m talking about, I’m a goddamn RN in a neurological ICU. Not making excuses here, just saying he wasn’t wasted. He drove recklessly and had a tragic accident. A life was lost, but it was his driving behavior that caused that. And P-Stone would have potentially lived had he had a seatbelt on, but that’s a non issue at this point.
I'm not saying that either you'll notice. I said tipsy. i.e, intoxicated enough to not be fully on the ball. I hate laws as much as the next guy who thinks they're tough cos they ride a skateboard, but the limit here in Australia is .05 and I think that's spot on. .05 as a general rule is 2 standard drinks the first hour and one thereafter. Less for women and small cunts. Now I'm a seasoned drinker/recovering alcoholic, and the few times I've drunk since quitting my O.T.T boozing ways, I can feel two drinks effecting me. I would not recommend driving after three in an hour although I have several times and felt like a total shitcunt the next day.
I don’t feel like reading any of this but I think it’s great Batman and robin are going back and forth.
Agreed.
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I wanna know what the inmate popular opinion is in jail on DUI homicide, will he have his on cell due to he’s b class celeb status? Every inmate will already know what he’s in for.
Thoughts?
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I was reading about Sam Kinison's death the other day and he died from a head-on collision with a drunk driver who only received a sentence of 1 year of probation and 300 hours of community service.
Anyhow, 4 years in prison is rough but pales in comparison to the lifetime psychological prison sentence he also has to deal with.
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Source of video above with no frame rate issues:
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/skateboarder-cory-kennedy-sentenced-to-four-years-in-prison-after-killing-friend-in-dui-crash/824915029
Bummer for all everyone involved.
interesting. this kinda of changes the framework of the discussion.
That said, this kinda sums it up, from PStones wife
"But Maigetter's widow, Anna Cobb, spoke for the prosecution.
“One day, you’re going to have kids and you’re going to understand the depths of this. I know you didn't mean to do it and I love you,” she said.""
This right here confirmed a lot of the feelings I already had about this case. She may care for cory, but she isnt cool with the situation at all, she wants repercussions and him to be held accountable, which is how skateboarding should be treating it. Of course he is a great person but you cant live without consequences, especially when the widow agrees. "this isnt what preston would have wanted" doesnt hold much weight considering preston also drunk drove constantly. obviously not the same, but a drug addict wouldnt want another drug addict persecuted.
Heart goes out to cory, hope he can serve his sentence in peace and come out the same person he was before. Skateboarding will be waiting with open arms.
I think this is a fair take, but one thing I can't help but shake is the conditions of prisons as a whole. The idea of justice being served is to ultimately rehabilitate somebody so that they can be conditioned for society, and it seems in most cases that's not really what happens. Most people come out of jails worse than they were going in and struggle to hop back in with the tide of society, especially for someone like Cory with an eccentric profession that may not be there when he gets out.
Cory messed up and there should be consequences, but the prison system is a pretty fucked place. I think we as a society should strive to greater means to actually rehabilitate people, and I say that as a general take and not because we're talking about a talented skateboarder.
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I’m not making excuses at all, man. I’m just saying that .10 is hardly drunk. Impaired, yes. People are making it seem like he was black out wasted. He shouldn’t have been behind the wheel, of course. I never advocated that. Don’t make it out to seem like it’s more than it isn’t. Just my own opinion, and you can shit on it all you want but I think his driving was the issue. He had gotten multiple moving violations prior to this, and considering he was driving on roads he knows he probably felt comfortable driving a bit reckless. And had P-Stone been wearing a seatbelt this’d just be another crazy story to be told over a bonfire. Just shitty all the way around. I wasn’t there, none of us were, so who knows? He just wasn’t as trashed as people make him out to be.
it’s not drunk but it’s enough to delay judgement by even a second or two which is more than enough time to make a mistake on a turn like that. you and a lot of people in herecan’t seem to wrap your heads around that. every millisecond counts you’re in. e position he was and whether .1 is “drunk bro” or not, it’s apparently enough to take a life.
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.10 isn’t even drunk at all. Doesn’t matter in the eyes of everyone, it seems. I got a DUI like an idiot and my BAC was .25. Luckily I didn’t hurt anyone, but just the thought of it makes me feel like shit. It was his driving that caused the accident, not his drunkness. P-Stone may have even lived had he had his seatbelt on. Either way, it’s fucked up. RIP P-Stone and Godspeed to Cory.
I can't believe I'm weighing in on this as it's been beaten to death, but .1 is definitely too tipsy to be driving. Tolerance or not. Anyone who says otherwise has no idea what they're talking about and is an idiot/deluded.
It’s not. That’s like a couple of beers. That’s not drunk, my man. Slightly impaired, but not drunk. People go to dinner and have a couple glasses of wine/beer/sake and you could potentially blow over the legal.08. You can take a sip of listerine and blow over the limit. Either way, you’re in the wrong with anything in your system. He shouldn’t have been behind the wheel, and it’s known he drove recklessly in the past. I know what I’m talking about, I’m a goddamn RN in a neurological ICU. Not making excuses here, just saying he wasn’t wasted. He drove recklessly and had a tragic accident. A life was lost, but it was his driving behavior that caused that. And P-Stone would have potentially lived had he had a seatbelt on, but that’s a non issue at this point.
There you have it, Dark Knight. Case closed everyone.
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Source of video above with no frame rate issues:
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/skateboarder-cory-kennedy-sentenced-to-four-years-in-prison-after-killing-friend-in-dui-crash/824915029
Bummer for all everyone involved.
interesting. this kinda of changes the framework of the discussion.
That said, this kinda sums it up, from PStones wife
"But Maigetter's widow, Anna Cobb, spoke for the prosecution.
“One day, you’re going to have kids and you’re going to understand the depths of this. I know you didn't mean to do it and I love you,” she said.""
This right here confirmed a lot of the feelings I already had about this case. She may care for cory, but she isnt cool with the situation at all, she wants repercussions and him to be held accountable, which is how skateboarding should be treating it. Of course he is a great person but you cant live without consequences, especially when the widow agrees. "this isnt what preston would have wanted" doesnt hold much weight considering preston also drunk drove constantly. obviously not the same, but a drug addict wouldnt want another drug addict persecuted.
Heart goes out to cory, hope he can serve his sentence in peace and come out the same person he was before. Skateboarding will be waiting with open arms.
I think this is a fair take, but one thing I can't help but shake is the conditions of prisons as a whole. The idea of justice being served is to ultimately rehabilitate somebody so that they can be conditioned for society, and it seems in most cases that's not really what happens. Most people come out of jails worse than they were going in and struggle to hop back in with the tide of society, especially for someone like Cory with an eccentric profession that may not be there when he gets out.
Cory messed up and there should be consequences, but the prison system is a pretty fucked place. I think we as a society should strive to greater means to actually rehabilitate people, and I say that as a general take and not because we're talking about a talented skateboarder.
Prison is about punishment not rehabilitation. Sentence length is determined by elected officials (judges/prosecutors) who run for office promising stiffer sentences than their predecessor. I am sure Cory would learn his lesson after a month in prison, but that would not reflect well on the judge who will be up for election in the near future.
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the system is so fucked up. .10 aint shit. first time offense shouldn't have gotten jail time at all. i could see maybe some community service, but that's totally fucked up in my eyes.
Maybe, if someone didn’t die. That’s a whole different ballgame.
it wasn't intentional, and it not like he held a gun to his head, it was a fucking accident. for cory kennedy to be blamed for his death is bs.
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I love Cory's skating and his personality but why should I feel bad that you're being punished? Somebody lost their life because you were reckless and stupid. It's all very sad. A man is dead in the grave because you made stupid decisions. He had family and friends and loved ones. And now he's dead. He's fucking dead but in 4 years you can kickflip on the street. I hope you learn from this Cory and grow as a person. Best wishes to you.
The people saying stuff like "he already feels bad enough, this is too much" are dumb as fuck.
you think you're going to make him feel worse about it by locking him up? I'm sure he feels bad enough as it is.
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Source of video above with no frame rate issues:
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/skateboarder-cory-kennedy-sentenced-to-four-years-in-prison-after-killing-friend-in-dui-crash/824915029
Bummer for all everyone involved.
interesting. this kinda of changes the framework of the discussion.
That said, this kinda sums it up, from PStones wife
"But Maigetter's widow, Anna Cobb, spoke for the prosecution.
“One day, you’re going to have kids and you’re going to understand the depths of this. I know you didn't mean to do it and I love you,” she said.""
This right here confirmed a lot of the feelings I already had about this case. She may care for cory, but she isnt cool with the situation at all, she wants repercussions and him to be held accountable, which is how skateboarding should be treating it. Of course he is a great person but you cant live without consequences, especially when the widow agrees. "this isnt what preston would have wanted" doesnt hold much weight considering preston also drunk drove constantly. obviously not the same, but a drug addict wouldnt want another drug addict persecuted.
Heart goes out to cory, hope he can serve his sentence in peace and come out the same person he was before. Skateboarding will be waiting with open arms.
I think this is a fair take, but one thing I can't help but shake is the conditions of prisons as a whole. The idea of justice being served is to ultimately rehabilitate somebody so that they can be conditioned for society, and it seems in most cases that's not really what happens. Most people come out of jails worse than they were going in and struggle to hop back in with the tide of society, especially for someone like Cory with an eccentric profession that may not be there when he gets out.
Cory messed up and there should be consequences, but the prison system is a pretty fucked place. I think we as a society should strive to greater means to actually rehabilitate people, and I say that as a general take and not because we're talking about a talented skateboarder.
I don't think that is the only goal of prisons, especially in the United States. I would say, in Cory's case, a lot of it is just as a deterrent to everyone else to make them think twice about driving drunk themselves. While not applicable in this case, you also have the idea of frontier or old testament justice in states that believe in the death penalty. So, while rehabilitation is a goal, it is not the only supposed goal of prisons or even the primary one.
Seriously, Cory is one of my favorite skaters. I hope he can come back at a similar age as Guy's comeback and wow the industry again. But, even if he feels absolutely terrible and is unlikely to do it again, that isn't the only purpose of his sentence.
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p-stone wouldn't have wanted him to go to jail. they just wanted to fuck up his life and career
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Laws are laws
You dont get to break them because your homies ok with it
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Laws are laws
You dont get to break them because your homies ok with it
p-stone wouldn't have wanted him to go to jail. they just wanted to fuck up his life and career
another thread where the dynamic between posters astounds me!
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i was in jail w/ a bulgarian trucker who killed 4 people behind the wheel. he said it wasn't his fault but he had cocaine in his piss or some shit so they hit him w/ 4 yrs. some would say he got off light but he served them in county not state so he had to do the whole shit.
if he was in rawlins he would've been w/ more heavy hitters but paroled halfway through.
also i think state prison had smoking back then.
he got beat up by a smaller kid, a college wrestler in for bad checks, originally from VA.
he was able to forgive himself since he was suffering, i think that's the only benefit of being forced to suffer the deprivations of jail.
you're actually suffering asides your own thoughts and you wanna get free and it's absurd because you're not making amends, you're not being tortured on the rack, it's just slow burn for punishment's sake.
doing time is something, i hope to never go back.
all you peopple out for justice, i hope you get to experience it, might change your tune.
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Source of video above with no frame rate issues:
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/skateboarder-cory-kennedy-sentenced-to-four-years-in-prison-after-killing-friend-in-dui-crash/824915029
Bummer for all everyone involved.
interesting. this kinda of changes the framework of the discussion.
That said, this kinda sums it up, from PStones wife
"But Maigetter's widow, Anna Cobb, spoke for the prosecution.
“One day, you’re going to have kids and you’re going to understand the depths of this. I know you didn't mean to do it and I love you,” she said.""
This right here confirmed a lot of the feelings I already had about this case. She may care for cory, but she isnt cool with the situation at all, she wants repercussions and him to be held accountable, which is how skateboarding should be treating it. Of course he is a great person but you cant live without consequences, especially when the widow agrees. "this isnt what preston would have wanted" doesnt hold much weight considering preston also drunk drove constantly. obviously not the same, but a drug addict wouldnt want another drug addict persecuted.
Heart goes out to cory, hope he can serve his sentence in peace and come out the same person he was before. Skateboarding will be waiting with open arms.
I think this is a fair take, but one thing I can't help but shake is the conditions of prisons as a whole. The idea of justice being served is to ultimately rehabilitate somebody so that they can be conditioned for society, and it seems in most cases that's not really what happens. Most people come out of jails worse than they were going in and struggle to hop back in with the tide of society, especially for someone like Cory with an eccentric profession that may not be there when he gets out.
Cory messed up and there should be consequences, but the prison system is a pretty fucked place. I think we as a society should strive to greater means to actually rehabilitate people, and I say that as a general take and not because we're talking about a talented skateboarder.
This situation doesnt really warrant a discussion about our broken prison system. Someone died from drunk/impaired driving, and the driver was sentenced to 4 years. That is relatively fair considering the hundreds of people serving life for non violent drug charges, or the black 15 year old charged as an adult and locked up for 5 years after stealing a pair of jordans, or so many other cases that make no lick of sense.
As other people said already, the us prison system isnt really to rehabilitate, its punishment and deterent. How would you rehabilitate someone in with 2 strikes who drunk drove and crashes into another car killing them? Just send them to rehab? Again, there are a lot of people sitting in prison who shouldnt be right now, but I think impaired driving involving a death should face some form of punishment, regardless of wether it was a friend or not.
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but bro the judge. she just hates skaters and doesn’t wanna see him succeed!!
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I’m curious what people that think he shouldn’t have any jail time think should happen to people that drink and drive and end up killing someone.
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.10 isn’t even drunk at all. Doesn’t matter in the eyes of everyone, it seems. I got a DUI like an idiot and my BAC was .25. Luckily I didn’t hurt anyone, but just the thought of it makes me feel like shit. It was his driving that caused the accident, not his drunkness. P-Stone may have even lived had he had his seatbelt on. Either way, it’s fucked up. RIP P-Stone and Godspeed to Cory.
I can't believe I'm weighing in on this as it's been beaten to death, but .1 is definitely too tipsy to be driving. Tolerance or not. Anyone who says otherwise has no idea what they're talking about and is an idiot/deluded.
It’s not. That’s like a couple of beers. That’s not drunk, my man. Slightly impaired, but not drunk. People go to dinner and have a couple glasses of wine/beer/sake and you could potentially blow over the legal.08. You can take a sip of listerine and blow over the limit. Either way, you’re in the wrong with anything in your system. He shouldn’t have been behind the wheel, and it’s known he drove recklessly in the past. I know what I’m talking about, I’m a goddamn RN in a neurological ICU. Not making excuses here, just saying he wasn’t wasted. He drove recklessly and had a tragic accident. A life was lost, but it was his driving behavior that caused that. And P-Stone would have potentially lived had he had a seatbelt on, but that’s a non issue at this point.
let's revisit that one. literally everything you said after that means nothing to me because of how dumb this sentence is. A "sip of listerine" will never having you blowing .08. You're a nurse in the ICU and you think this ignorant shit? Come on.
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Source of video above with no frame rate issues:
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/skateboarder-cory-kennedy-sentenced-to-four-years-in-prison-after-killing-friend-in-dui-crash/824915029
Bummer for all everyone involved.
interesting. this kinda of changes the framework of the discussion.
That said, this kinda sums it up, from PStones wife
"But Maigetter's widow, Anna Cobb, spoke for the prosecution.
“One day, you’re going to have kids and you’re going to understand the depths of this. I know you didn't mean to do it and I love you,” she said.""
This right here confirmed a lot of the feelings I already had about this case. She may care for cory, but she isnt cool with the situation at all, she wants repercussions and him to be held accountable, which is how skateboarding should be treating it. Of course he is a great person but you cant live without consequences, especially when the widow agrees. "this isnt what preston would have wanted" doesnt hold much weight considering preston also drunk drove constantly. obviously not the same, but a drug addict wouldnt want another drug addict persecuted.
Heart goes out to cory, hope he can serve his sentence in peace and come out the same person he was before. Skateboarding will be waiting with open arms.
I think this is a fair take, but one thing I can't help but shake is the conditions of prisons as a whole. The idea of justice being served is to ultimately rehabilitate somebody so that they can be conditioned for society, and it seems in most cases that's not really what happens. Most people come out of jails worse than they were going in and struggle to hop back in with the tide of society, especially for someone like Cory with an eccentric profession that may not be there when he gets out.
Cory messed up and there should be consequences, but the prison system is a pretty fucked place. I think we as a society should strive to greater means to actually rehabilitate people, and I say that as a general take and not because we're talking about a talented skateboarder.
This situation doesnt really warrant a discussion about our broken prison system. Someone died from drunk/impaired driving, and the driver was sentenced to 4 years. That is relatively fair considering the hundreds of people serving life for non violent drug charges, or the black 15 year old charged as an adult and locked up for 5 years after stealing a pair of jordans, or so many other cases that make no lick of sense.
As other people said already, the us prison system isnt really to rehabilitate, its punishment and deterent. How would you rehabilitate someone in with 2 strikes who drunk drove and crashes into another car killing them? Just send them to rehab? Again, there are a lot of people sitting in prison who shouldnt be right now, but I think impaired driving involving a death should face some form of punishment, regardless of wether it was a friend or not.
I think a conversation about someone going to prison is just as good a time as ever to discuss prison. There’s a reason they’re called CORRECTIONAL facilities.
I just don’t think criminal justice is as black and white as most people like to behave, and in no way am I saying that Cory facing consequences is unfair. I just think a big potpourri of criminals of varying degrees is a strange concept if you really think about it. The idea of a facility housing someone who committed manslaughter, stabbed their wife, raped a child, or even just sold weed altogether in (more or less) the same conditions is just odd to me.
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i was in jail w/ a bulgarian trucker who killed 4 people behind the wheel. he said it wasn't his fault but he had cocaine in his piss or some shit so they hit him w/ 4 yrs. some would say he got off light but he served them in county not state so he had to do the whole shit.
if he was in rawlins he would've been w/ more heavy hitters but paroled halfway through.
also i think state prison had smoking back then.
he got beat up by a smaller kid, a college wrestler in for bad checks, originally from VA.
he was able to forgive himself since he was suffering, i think that's the only benefit of being forced to suffer the deprivations of jail.
you're actually suffering asides your own thoughts and you wanna get free and it's absurd because you're not making amends, you're not being tortured on the rack, it's just slow burn for punishment's sake.
doing time is something, i hope to never go back.
all you peopple out for justice, i hope you get to experience it, might change your tune.
Yeah yeah, crime good, justice bad, we get it. Focus your account again and don't come back.
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I’m curious what people that think he shouldn’t have any jail time think should happen to people that drink and drive and end up killing someone.
he wasn't even drunk. i could have happened to any sober person too. it was a fucking accident!!! should everyone that has an accident go to prison???
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You don’t think the alcohol factored into the accident at all?
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i was in jail w/ a bulgarian trucker who killed 4 people behind the wheel. he said it wasn't his fault but he had cocaine in his piss or some shit so they hit him w/ 4 yrs. some would say he got off light but he served them in county not state so he had to do the whole shit.
if he was in rawlins he would've been w/ more heavy hitters but paroled halfway through.
also i think state prison had smoking back then.
he got beat up by a smaller kid, a college wrestler in for bad checks, originally from VA.
he was able to forgive himself since he was suffering, i think that's the only benefit of being forced to suffer the deprivations of jail.
you're actually suffering asides your own thoughts and you wanna get free and it's absurd because you're not making amends, you're not being tortured on the rack, it's just slow burn for punishment's sake.
doing time is something, i hope to never go back.
all you peopple out for justice, i hope you get to experience it, might change your tune.
Yeah yeah, crime good, justice bad, we get it. Focus your account again and don't come back.
if i could save crime in a bottle, the first thing that i'd liek to do
is smash alan in that face w/ the bottle of crime
the 2nd thing i'd like to do is gouge your face w/ the leftover shards of that bottle.
lucky for you i can't save crime in a bottle and lucky for me, you're not an authority and i don't focus on your command.
where ever did you get the idear that i'm pro crime? i just don't think there's such a thing as 'justice'. there's punishment in america and also recidivism and job security for dumb ass guards and the investors in private prisons companies like CCA and Wackenhut. then there's the sinecure position for the 'tough on crime' right wing and let's not let lefties off the hook since bill clinton made 3 strikes and was rockefeller [he of the harsh crack laws] a democrat? someone wikipedia that.
i'm not sure what the appropriate response would be but putting bad people in cages tends to make them worse, makes their social milieu worse for sure [white power gangs, anyone?].
some euro countries have a more progressive prison system than we do. then there's alternatives, ck has money. take that, and call it 'justice'. or have him survive on bainbridge isle w/ primitive tools and come back to society having learned something. i think that's how australia was started. volunteer doing something rad for unfortunate people? idk there's lots of other stuff you can do besides live in a bathroom for 4 yrs.
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I’m curious what people that think he shouldn’t have any jail time think should happen to people that drink and drive and end up killing someone.
he wasn't even drunk. i could have happened to any sober person too. it was a fucking accident!!! should everyone that has an accident go to prison???
if they have alcohol in their system, then yes, they should at least be tried in a court of law. P-Stone didn't have a seatbelt on either which I can't even fathom as a father. Anyway, they both made mistakes and now Cory has to pay for his choices. The whole "his suffering alone is enough, he shouldn't have to go to jail" would NOT fly in any other case and/ or if Cory was just some random person (which he is in the eyes of the law).
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I’m curious what people that think he shouldn’t have any jail time think should happen to people that drink and drive and end up killing someone.
he wasn't even drunk. i could have happened to any sober person too. it was a fucking accident!!! should everyone that has an accident go to prison???
Imagine it was the person you've loved for 20 years, the mother or father of your children, would your reaction be the same?"Oh yeah, he killed the person I've loved for 20 years when he was drunk driving, but whatever, accidents happen! He was barely drunk anyway!" Of course not, because your argument is terrible.
Cory crashed the car going way too fast on a road he knew well. Cory did so after drinking enough to be legally drunk. You seem to be arguing he should take no blame, does that really not seem crazy to you? I am not suggesting he is a monster at all, I feel bad for the kid, but to argue that this was strictly an accident, with no one to blame?
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I’m curious what people that think he shouldn’t have any jail time think should happen to people that drink and drive and end up killing someone.
he wasn't even drunk. i could have happened to any sober person too. it was a fucking accident!!! should everyone that has an accident go to prison???
you understand thats what the charge of manslaughter is right? "the crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought, or otherwise in circumstances not amounting to murder."
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Anybody who reads this has been warned. Don’t drive drunk. Don’t drive tipsy. Your choices have an impact and consequences. Equivocate all you want, but we all know that drunk driving kills. And if you’re the type who drinks and drives on the regular then I suggest you just kill yourself now and save potential heartbreak for the family and friends and loved ones of the people you might hurt. That’s too harsh but whatever, fuck off.
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Great example of our medieval justice system at work. Bad choices, horrible consequences, now young man must go spend an arbitrary amount of time trying not to be extorted, raped and/or beaten. As mentioned, there's a long list of worse people doing less time for worse things.
Cory as a celebrity role model to youth would've been better sentenced to 4 years of recounting his mistakes at high school auditoriums and house arrest. I understand the victim's need to feel justice, but in 3-4 years it's not like she's going to be like "ok, we're fair and square now".
Guessing that judges have little mercy to show for skateboarders in general let alone the sponsored ones. In a better world, his right to a trial by jury should've landed him at the mercy of slap.
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Why does everyone think he’s gonna get raped or beat up? He’ll probably be in a low security prison in washington and be pretty safe if he stays low key. Still horrible to spend years in prison but i don’t think it’s gonna be some lockup extended stay shit
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Anybody who reads this has been warned. Don’t drive drunk. Don’t drive tipsy. Your choices have an impact and consequences. Equivocate all you want, but we all know that drunk driving kills. And if you’re the type who drinks and drives on the regular then I suggest you just kill yourself now and save potential heartbreak for the family and friends and loved ones of the people you might hurt. That’s too harsh but whatever, fuck off.
I also support more suicide.
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Guessing that judges have little mercy to show for skateboarders in general let alone the sponsored ones.
skaters deserve special treatment in the court of law?
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I’m curious what people that think he shouldn’t have any jail time think should happen to people that drink and drive and end up killing someone.
he wasn't even drunk. i could have happened to any sober person too. it was a fucking accident!!! should everyone that has an accident go to prison???
you understand thats what the charge of manslaughter is right? "the crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought, or otherwise in circumstances not amounting to murder."
the system is fucked. he didnt say, hey, im going to kill p-stone tonight. he had no intention it turning out how it went down. i can see community service or something, but not prison.
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Great example of our medieval justice system at work. Bad choices, horrible consequences, now young man must go spend an arbitrary amount of time trying not to be extorted, raped and/or beaten. As mentioned, there's a long list of worse people doing less time for worse things.
Cory as a celebrity role model to youth would've been better sentenced to 4 years of recounting his mistakes at high school auditoriums and house arrest. I understand the victim's need to feel justice, but in 3-4 years it's not like she's going to be like "ok, we're fair and square now".
Guessing that judges have little mercy to show for skateboarders in general let alone the sponsored ones. In a better world, his right to a trial by jury should've landed him at the mercy of slap.
the victims need for revenge, not justice.
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Fuck, I know better than to look at the comments on any news article, but holy shit the commenters here are out for blood.
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2018/10/01/skateboarder-cory-kennedy-gets-4-years-in-prison-for-fatal-dui-crash.html
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Fuck, I know better than to look at the comments on any news article, but holy shit the commenters here are out for blood.
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2018/10/01/skateboarder-cory-kennedy-gets-4-years-in-prison-for-fatal-dui-crash.html
I was curious why there was so many right wing commenters then realized it was a fox news article, surprised they picked it up.
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Fuck, I know better than to look at the comments on any news article, but holy shit the commenters here are out for blood.
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2018/10/01/skateboarder-cory-kennedy-gets-4-years-in-prison-for-fatal-dui-crash.html
I was curious why there was so many right wing commenters then realized it was a fox news article, surprised they picked it up.
prolly assholes like that on the jury
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Fuck, I know better than to look at the comments on any news article, but holy shit the commenters here are out for blood.
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2018/10/01/skateboarder-cory-kennedy-gets-4-years-in-prison-for-fatal-dui-crash.html
I was curious why there was so many right wing commenters then realized it was a fox news article, surprised they picked it up.
I wonder if the Olympic's have made skateboarding a legitimate sport "in the fair and balanced no spin zone" or if this was just an opportunity for them to get riled up over a crime (that involves an non-traditional young offender). My guess is the latter. Honestly, I'm just amazed how hateful people get in the comments section. It is amazing how people bend a situation to fit a preconceived notion of the world and run with it at full speed.
As for Cory's punishment, there isn't a right answer. Cory fucked up. If he weighs 140-ish, .10 puts him at 3 to 4 drinks, not to mention the weed (source https://www.businessinsider.com/drinks-before-driving-if-bac-is-05-2013-5). But to quote P-Stone's mom, “Preston would have wanted that his friend and colleague, Cory, never be imprisoned for his actions but, as an alternative, for Cory to take responsibility and to give back to the community.”
I don't have any clue what the repercussions for something like this should be. I zero faith in American prisons, but I don't have much faith in rehab either. Honestly, the only thing I've seen actually change people's behavior is integrating them back into a community and increasing their moral obligations to those around them. Prison and rehab don't really do this all that well.
But, outside of the offender, punishing affects the community. Outside of the simple fact that punishing someone can feel really good (revenge), can we allow someone to make decisions that result in the death of another person and then go on with no punishment? I don't know. Something about that feels pretty wrong.
But, it seems the only thing any of us could do at this point might be to contribute to P-Stone's family's gofundme (https://www.gofundme.com/preston-maigetter-memorial-fund) and have some sympathy for Cory (write the dude a letter). Also, maybe learn from the situation. I'd imagine a fair amount of dudes on here have done some stupid shit behind the wheel of a car, maybe the only positive thing from this whole situation can be to remind the rest of us that it might be worth it just to pay for the taxi rather than lose one of our friends.
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Fuck, I know better than to look at the comments on any news article, but holy shit the commenters here are out for blood.
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2018/10/01/skateboarder-cory-kennedy-gets-4-years-in-prison-for-fatal-dui-crash.html
I was curious why there was so many right wing commenters then realized it was a fox news article, surprised they picked it up.
prolly assholes like that on the jury
There was no jury. He plead guilty before one was even formed. It never went to an actual trial. He plead to an agreement with the DA with a sentencing recommendation.
Do you just have hot-takes on this case without actually understanding what happened?
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Fuck, I know better than to look at the comments on any news article, but holy shit the commenters here are out for blood.
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2018/10/01/skateboarder-cory-kennedy-gets-4-years-in-prison-for-fatal-dui-crash.html
I was curious why there was so many right wing commenters then realized it was a fox news article, surprised they picked it up.
prolly assholes like that on the jury
So you realize that there is no jury when the defendant takes a plea deal, and goes straight to sentencing. It's just the judge
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I’m curious what people that think he shouldn’t have any jail time think should happen to people that drink and drive and end up killing someone.
I have an uncle that almost killed a little girl while he was drunk driving. That was in the mid 90s, that fucker hasn't changed. I had to move my car once after I had two beers and that made me feel bad.
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Cory as a celebrity role model to youth would've been better sentenced to 4 years of recounting his mistakes at high school auditoriums and house arrest. I understand the victim's need to feel justice, but in 3-4 years it's not like she's going to be like "ok, we're fair and square now.
I'm sure doing this after serving time will be a little more impactful. Sorry but telling a bunch of high school kids not to drink and drive because you can kill a friend and end up on house arrest doesn't really teach accountability.
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Cory as a celebrity role model to youth would've been better sentenced to 4 years of recounting his mistakes at high school auditoriums and house arrest. I understand the victim's need to feel justice, but in 3-4 years it's not like she's going to be like "ok, we're fair and square now.
I'm sure doing this after serving time will be a little more impactful. Sorry but telling a bunch of high school kids not to drink and drive because you can kill a friend and end up on house arrest doesn't really teach accountability.
"They are making me come talk to you guys, so don't drink and drive or you might end up in the same situation!"
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I’m curious what people that think he shouldn’t have any jail time think should happen to people that drink and drive and end up killing someone.
I have an uncle that almost killed a little girl while he was drunk driving. That was in the mid 90s, that fucker hasn't changed. I had to move my car once after I had two beers and that made me feel bad.
i hope cory comes back the same person he was and prison doesn't fuck him up.
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Cory as a celebrity role model to youth would've been better sentenced to 4 years of recounting his mistakes at high school auditoriums and house arrest. I understand the victim's need to feel justice, but in 3-4 years it's not like she's going to be like "ok, we're fair and square now.
I'm sure doing this after serving time will be a little more impactful. Sorry but telling a bunch of high school kids not to drink and drive because you can kill a friend and end up on house arrest doesn't really teach accountability.
This so much. Teaching kids accountability is probably one of the biggest problems with the US. Too many parents who only care about being the "cool parent" instead of teaching their kids not to be little cunts. Too many single mothers trying to raise their kids on their own, having to work two or more jobs to feed and cloth their kids so they aren't around enough to raise them. Too many parents who have all the money in the world, so they just throw it at their kid instead of spending time with them. Too many fathers who knock a women up, then tuck their tail and run because they can't keep doing their hoodrat shit with their hoodrat friends.
I think these are issues the US needs to look at before any meaningful, lasting changes can be made to our society. Humans babies are born with compassion. But it seems that more often than not when parents aren't around (whether you're rich or poor) the sense of compassion eventually withers away.
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I hope he stays strong and that time flies for him. Good luck Corey! x
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I’m curious what people that think he shouldn’t have any jail time think should happen to people that drink and drive and end up killing someone.
he wasn't even drunk. i could have happened to any sober person too. it was a fucking accident!!! should everyone that has an accident go to prison???
you understand thats what the charge of manslaughter is right? "the crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought, or otherwise in circumstances not amounting to murder."
the system is fucked. he didnt say, hey, im going to kill p-stone tonight. he had no intention it turning out how it went down. i can see community service or something, but not prison.
what do you think the punishment for getting a dui should be?
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are the people that are suggesting corey should be out doing public service about the dangers of drinking the same ones that are suggesting everyone get wasted in the honor of pstone and therefor glorifying drinking?
i dont believe in our prison system and i to think someone like corey would be better served using his standing to helo other skaters avoid making his same mistakes but sadly we arent their yet, if ever.
in a perfect would he would be incarcerated for a year or so in an actual rehabilitation center where he could learn would learn how to perform the public services he could do. the prison system as it stands does little to rehabilitate and prevent recidivism. right now these punishments are meant more to prevent other from doing the same crimes rather than do anything for the actual offender.
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Reckless driving alone can land you in prison too. It's not only about the drinks.
It's not seemly to get into detail perhaps, but I do wonder if the seatbelt was at all a consideration for the judge.
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They should at least let him go out and try to get a clip or something.
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My friend got 6 months probation for dui. Fuckin moron didn't kill anyone but still uncool of him.
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My friend got 6 months probation for dui. Fuckin moron didn't kill anyone but still uncool of him.
My friend got 3 months time served for reckless driving. He was pulled over going 55 in a 35. In Virginia anything 20 over the speed limit is considered reckless driving and comes with a jail sentence or something like that. This was my friends first offense so he didn’t actually serve the jail time but it’s still on his record. Crazy
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lotta lawyers in this thread, huh?
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lotta lawyers in this thread, huh?
Yes, tons of regular lawyers. When things like this happen, I get why we have the "Ignore" button.
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My friend got 6 months probation for dui. Fuckin moron didn't kill anyone but still uncool of him.
My friend got 3 months time served for reckless driving. He was pulled over going 55 in a 35. In Virginia anything 20 over the speed limit is considered reckless driving and comes with a jail sentence or something like that. This was my friends first offense so he didn’t actually serve the jail time but it’s still on his record. Crazy
Yeah, got a first offender DUI in Virginia from having an adverse reaction to zoloft (no alcohol/no drugs). Was put on probation for a little over 4 years and paid around 10 grand in fines. Yeah, this is NO BULLSHIT. I also had to complete a drug/alcohol program as its mandatory in my shit county. It essentially ruined my life. Lost just about everything. The judicial system is fucked. Truly a fucked up, good ole boys network that has absolutely nothing to do with rehabilitation. People always preach "rehabilitation programs", but the simple fact is that (based on my personal experience) those running these "programs" don't know a fucking thing about addiction.
Fuck the court system. It's one of the biggest rackets we have in this cuntry. I'm still trying to get over that this happen to me. Cory is fucked. He will never fully recover from this incident. Hopefully, he can get over Prestons death and the guilt. From my point of view, he will never be the same person after cycling through the judicial system. It's a mindfuck. I truly hate it for him. Dude ripped and unfortunately his time in skateboarding is officially over. The life he once had exists in a world that he'll never live in again.
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My friend got 6 months probation for dui. Fuckin moron didn't kill anyone but still uncool of him.
My friend got 3 months time served for reckless driving. He was pulled over going 55 in a 35. In Virginia anything 20 over the speed limit is considered reckless driving and comes with a jail sentence or something like that. This was my friends first offense so he didn’t actually serve the jail time but it’s still on his record. Crazy
Yeah, got a first offender DUI in Virginia from having an adverse reaction to zoloft (no alcohol/no drugs). Was put on probation for a little over 4 years and paid around 10 grand in fines. Yeah, this is NO BULLSHIT. I also had to complete a drug/alcohol program as its mandatory in my shit county. It essentially ruined my life. Lost just about everything. The judicial system is fucked. Truly a fucked up, good ole boys network that has absolutely nothing to do with rehabilitation. People always preach "rehabilitation programs", but the simple fact is that (based on my personal experience) those running these "programs" don't know a fucking thing about addiction.
Fuck the court system. It's one of the biggest rackets we have in this cuntry. I'm still trying to get over that this happen to me. Cory is fucked. He will never fully recover from this incident. Hopefully, he can get over Prestons death and the guilt. From my point of view, he will never be the same person after cycling through the judicial system. It's a mindfuck. I truly hate it for him. Dude ripped and unfortunately his time in skateboarding is officially over. The life he once had exists in a world that he'll never live in again.
yup, cory's life is fucked, and over what? .10 isnt even drunk, and had an accident like many people do everyday. community service sure, but fucking him over by putting him in prison and ruining his career is fucked.
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you guys have some insane tolerances for alcohol if 0.1 isn't drunk for you guys.
using a BAC calculator for me, it would take me 4 tallcans (5%, 2 liters total) over 3 hours to get me over 0.1, while I wouldn't be puking all over the place, I'd be noticeable intoxicated.
https://mcwell.nd.edu/your-well-being/physical-well-being/alcohol/blood-alcohol-concentration/ (https://mcwell.nd.edu/your-well-being/physical-well-being/alcohol/blood-alcohol-concentration/)
Let's take these effects into account:
BAC Level Generalized Dose Specific Effects
0.020-0.039% No loss of coordination, slight euphoria, and loss of shyness. Relaxation, but depressant effects are not apparent.
0.040-0.059% Feeling of well-being, relaxation, lower inhibitions, and sensation of warmth. Euphoria. Some minor impairment of judgment and memory, lowering of caution.
0.06-0.099% Slight impairment of balance, speech, vision, reaction time, and hearing. Euphoria. Reduced judgment and self-control. Impaired reasoning and memory.
0.100-0.129% Significant impairment of motor coordination and loss of good judgment. Speech may be slurred; balance, peripheral vision, reaction time, and hearing will be impaired.
0.130-0.159% Gross motor impairment and lack of physical control. Blurred vision and major loss of balance. Euphoria is reducing and beginning dysphoria (a state of feeling unwell)
0.160-0.199% Dysphoria predominates, nausea may appear. The drinker has the appearance of a sloppy drunk.
0.200-0.249% Needs assistance in walking; total mental confusion. Dysphoria with nausea and vomiting; possible blackout.
0.250-0.399% Alcohol poisoning. Loss of consciousness.
0.40% + Onset of coma, possible death due to respiratory arrest.
at which of these would you guys consider someone drunk? 0.06+? Reduced judgment and self-control basically means you shouldn't operate a vehicle for fucks sake.
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yup, cory's life is fucked, and over what? .10 isnt even drunk, and had an accident like many people do everyday.
Jesus fucking Christ. Many people aren't being charged with vehicular homicide every day. Comparing his situation with a fender-bender on the way home from Arby's isn't a great analogy. He's seeing time for the vehicular homicide and assault charges. He's facing it like a fucking man. Hope he is able to get out much sooner.
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People who are coming at Cory remind me of the crazy girlfriend who goes after the girl her spouse is cheating on rather than asking her spouse "hey why are you cheating on me. Both parties are responsible for what happend. Yes Cory deserves to pay for what he did im not disputing that. But there are people in this world who do very evil things on purpose with no remorse, and Cory is not one of those .
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People who are coming at Cory remind me of the crazy girlfriend who goes after the girl her spouse is cheating on rather than asking her spouse "hey why are you cheating on me. Both parties are responsible for what happend. Yes Cory deserves to pay for what he did im not disputing that. But there are people in this world who do very evil things on purpose with no remorse, and Cory is not one of those .
Nobody is coming at Cory. He invited them in when he got drunk and was responsible for the death of another person. And he didn’t commit an evil act with no remorse, so he got 4 years instead of 40.
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People who are coming at Cory remind me of the crazy girlfriend who goes after the girl her spouse is cheating on rather than asking her spouse "hey why are you cheating on me. Both parties are responsible for what happend. Yes Cory deserves to pay for what he did im not disputing that. But there are people in this world who do very evil things on purpose with no remorse, and Cory is not one of those .
I don't think many people are "coming at" Cory. I'm a huge fan of his skating and would hope he got a slightly lesser sentence. But, this isn't about whether Cory Kennedy is a good person or how the system is rehabilitating him. Simply put, his sentence is primarly about deterrence. And, if all these kids who are huge fans of him and P-Stone, now think twice about getting in a car drunk (and therefore potentially stop them from killing a friend or someone who just happened to be on the road at the same time as them) because Cory is going to lose probably 32 months of his life in prison, that is a trade-off, I think we as a society should be willing to make. .1 is clearly impaired, and while reckless driving didn't help, by getting in the car drunk, he lost that as a viable mistake to mitigate what he did, and even then, that is still illegal.
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People who are coming at Cory remind me of the crazy girlfriend who goes after the girl her spouse is cheating on rather than asking her spouse "hey why are you cheating on me. Both parties are responsible for what happend. Yes Cory deserves to pay for what he did im not disputing that. But there are people in this world who do very evil things on purpose with no remorse, and Cory is not one of those .
Nobody is coming at Cory. He invited them in when he got drunk and was responsible for the death of another person. And he didn’t commit an evil act with no remorse, so he got 4 years instead of 40.
At least approach the situation with some compassion is all im saying.
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who isnt? 1 or 2 people? certainly not as many that are saying he should be doing no time and seemingly dont show much compassion for victims of drunk driving.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABPnN-q4JL0
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I'm pretty sure every one of my friends would fault me if I knowingly rode with a drunk guy and got killed. Like "Oh man, that’s sad but what a dumbass for getting in the car."
In the past I’ve accepted the risks and done dumb stuff like that but I would agree with their sentiments.
P-Stone was a willful participant in a dangerous activity (that he had likely done before) as was Shane Cross and Phil Shao and it’s terrible and tragic it’s their fault nearly as much as the other guy's/girl's.
I don’t think this absolves Cory of guilt but I also don’t agree with the vitriol he’s received and the zeal with which some seem to express about his harsh punishment.
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Harsh punishment? One person is dead. Forever. 2 young people lost their father. Forever. Cory is sitting for 48 months. Yeah, pretty harsh.
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if i didnt know better i would assume some posters think pstone owes corey for getting killed.
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look at what prison did for antuan dixon, fucked it his life and career. it will fuck up cory too.
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if i didnt know better i would assume some posters think pstone owes corey for getting killed.
i dont think pstone would want to see cory in prison.
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I nearly got 3 months for dangerous driving (UK). No drink/drugs or accident. Just driving like a dickhead/speeding. Courts don't fuck about, took me ages to work off my CS
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I don’t think this absolves Cory of guilt but I also don’t agree with the vitriol he’s received and the zeal with which some seem to express about his harsh punishment.
i think a lot of people get off on seeing his life ruined.
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I nearly got 3 months for dangerous driving (UK). No drink/drugs or accident. Just driving like a dickhead/speeding. Courts don't fuck about, took me ages to work off my CS
thats what im saying, community service is a bitch, but they could have given him community service instead, that would have been enough punishment. especially since it was his first offense.
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I had to reset my test. Propably saved my life and some else's. I was into my Alfa's
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look at what prison did for antuan dixon, fucked it his life and career. it will fuck up cory too.
you might as well throw gator in there as well with that awful comparison
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look at what prison did for antuan dixon, fucked it his life and career. it will fuck up cory too.
this is the dumbest statement i've ever heard. Antwuan did malicious criminal acts, and continued to act that way even after getting out the first time. His career got fucked because he was WAY out of control. And seeing the way he is now, I think that last stint in prison may have woken him up a little bit and given him a legit chance at life, being that he's doing an outpatient program and seems to have a better handle on what he had and lost.
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look at what prison did for antuan dixon, fucked it his life and career. it will fuck up cory too.
you might as well throw gator in there as well with that awful comparison
gator was out to rape and murder her, this is a fucking accident! he getting sent to prison for a fucking accident!
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look at what prison did for antuan dixon, fucked it his life and career. it will fuck up cory too.
this is the dumbest statement i've ever heard. Antwuan did malicious criminal acts, and continued to act that way even after getting out the first time. His career got fucked because he was WAY out of control. And seeing the way he is now, I think that last stint in prison may have woken him up a little bit and given him a legit chance at life, being that he's doing an outpatient program and seems to have a better handle on what he had and lost.
pretty sure antwuan wouldn't have been set up in the first place or sent to prison if he wasnt black.
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do you think the alcohol had any impact on the accident?
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do you think the alcohol had any impact on the accident?
.1 isnt even drunk!!!!!!
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Kentrock, you are fucking stupid and seemingly moments away from victim blaming. Please stop posting.
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Kentrock, you are fucking stupid and seemingly moments away from victim blaming. Please stop posting.
i never blamed p-stone, i feel for his family. im sharing my opinion here, which is worth just about as much as yours. nothing. just because youre intolerant to any viewpoint that doesnt align with yours is your problem.
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Your opinion is worthless because you seemingly don't understand how the world works.
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kentrock is so dumb he uses his head to keep the rain of his neck
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Your opinion is worthless because you seemingly don't understand how the world works.
your opinion is worthless because you dont question how the world works.
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do you think the alcohol had any impact on the accident?
.1 isnt even drunk!!!!!!
yes, because that excuse has worked well so many times in the eyes of the law
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you dont think a .1 BAC affects your driving at all? what level do you think constitutes being drunk?
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you dont think a .1 BAC affects your driving at all? what level do you think constitutes being drunk?
1.1?
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1.1 is impossible.
for reference .3 is when you start being likely to die.
edit. actually .4 is where people die
Blood Alcohol Concentration (BAC) levels represent the percent of your blood that is concentrated with alcohol. A BAC of .10 means that .1% of your bloodstream is composed of alcohol.
Explanation of BAC levels :
.020 - Light to moderate drinkers begin to feel some effects
.040 - Most people begin to feel relaxed
.060 - Judgment is somewhat impaired
.080 - Definite impairment of muscle coordination and driving skills. This is the legal intoxication level in most states.
.100 - Clear deterioration of reaction time and control. This is legally drunk in all states.
.120 - Vomiting usually occurs
.150 - Balance and movement are impaired. Here the equivalent of a 1/2 pint of whiskey is circulating in the blood stream.
.200 - Most people begin to experience blackouts
.300 - Many people lose consciousness
.400 - Most people lose consciousness and some die
.450 - Breathing stops. This is a fatal dose for most people.
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Fuckin rights it does.
Even when I was a fully functional asshole alcoholic I wouldn't get behind the wheel after 2 beers
I learned my lesson at 16 when I stole my dad's truck while drunk and got pulled over. The cop knew my dad well, and she put me through the ringer. Drove me home and my dad grabbed me by my neck and threw me against the wall with arm cocked back ready to punch.
Lesson learned. Threat of jail and having my ass kicked
By my dad.
Good enough for me
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1.1 is impossible.
for reference .3 is when you start being likely to die.
edit. actually .4 is where people die
Blood Alcohol Concentration (BAC) levels represent the percent of your blood that is concentrated with alcohol. A BAC of .10 means that .1% of your bloodstream is composed of alcohol.
Explanation of BAC levels :
.020 - Light to moderate drinkers begin to feel some effects
.040 - Most people begin to feel relaxed
.060 - Judgment is somewhat impaired
.080 - Definite impairment of muscle coordination and driving skills. This is the legal intoxication level in most states.
.100 - Clear deterioration of reaction time and control. This is legally drunk in all states.
.120 - Vomiting usually occurs
.150 - Balance and movement are impaired. Here the equivalent of a 1/2 pint of whiskey is circulating in the blood stream.
.200 - Most people begin to experience blackouts
.300 - Many people lose consciousness
.400 - Most people lose consciousness and some die
.450 - Breathing stops. This is a fatal dose for most people.
those numbers are subjective. i've blown some crazy numbers, you'd think i was lying.
had a friend who swore he DT'd when he got to .4 so he tried to stay drunker than that at all times. i have no idea how he calibrated his numbers but he stayed drunk and did have a dr say 'this has to be impossible?' he was nonplussed but then another dr goes 'oh well, some people.....' because the dude was at a .5 and belligerent or else the dr would've maybe removed the wires from his jaw.
if CK drank every day those numbers don't apply.
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where's bricycle to weigh in. he's slap's resident expert of drunk driving.
ORLY?
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1.1 is impossible.
okay, .12 then
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Jesus some of the responses here seriously make me question humanity
Here's reality. He drove drunk, recklessly, and took a life in the process. The argument that what he blew isn't even drunk. IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER. State of Washington has a limit of .08 he was over that so bam that's driving under the influence.
I don't buy the whole it's an accident crap. It isn't news to anybody licensed to drive. You're told over and over when you go to get your license, go to traffic school, hell even in some places where you purchase alcohol, If you drive drunk there's serious consequences. It's possible you can get yourself or SOMEONE ELSE killed.
In this day of uber, lyft, air bnb, public transportation, etc, you have to be a real fucking idiot to get behind the wheel drunk, even a bigger idiot to get in the car with them knowing they're not fit to drive. Because of incredibly poor decisions, 2 kids have to live their life now without their father and a wife who has to figure out how to raise her kids on her own.
"He has to live his life knowing he killed his best friend, that's punishment enough." Sorry, but not in the eyes of the law. State has laws and a a series of repercussions if those laws are broken. Taking into consideration some of the information here, sounds like he caught a break.
I like Cory he's incredibly fucking talented, but he's also got a problem. Now he's got plenty of time to think about it and get his shit together. I hope he does.
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where did he get the alcohol? why aren't they being held liable?
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Jesus some of the responses here seriously make me question humanity
Here's reality. He drove drunk, recklessly, and took a life in the process. The argument that what he blew isn't even drunk. IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER. State of Washington has a limit of .08 he was over that so bam that's driving under the influence.
I don't buy the whole it's an accident crap. It isn't news to anybody licensed to drive. You're told over and over when you go to get your license, go to traffic school, hell even in some places where you purchase alcohol, If you drive drunk there's serious consequences. It's possible you can get yourself or SOMEONE ELSE killed.
In this day of uber, lyft, air bnb, public transportation, etc, you have to be a real fucking idiot to get behind the wheel drunk, even a bigger idiot to get in the car with them knowing they're not fit to drive. Because of incredibly poor decisions, 2 kids have to live their life now without their father and a wife who has to figure out how to raise her kids on her own.
"He has to live his life knowing he killed his best friend, that's punishment enough." Sorry, but not in the eyes of the law. State has laws and a a series of repercussions if those laws are broken. Taking into consideration some of the information here, sounds like he caught a break.
I like Cory he's incredibly fucking talented, but he's also got a problem. Now he's got plenty of time to think about it and get his shit together. I hope he does.
I agree with this, but I think it should be noted, from what I've heard where Cory was living, it is almost impossible to use public transportation. You have to take a ferry over over from the mainland. He still shouldn't have drank past the legal limit, but this isn't like living downtown in a major city.
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I just watched the news segment with Cory, P-Stones wife all being filmed testifying, or making victims statements. The judge too. Cory trying to talk and say his apology was heartbreaking.
I carry a pocket blower to make sure I'm legal and not impaired. I've blown over .08 after ONE good DIPA, that's for sure
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on the newscast they said at minimum he'll do 2 1/2 years of the 4, plus he already gave them the house. yes there are consequences, and his past driving infractions were probably a factor here too but
i tend to agree with everyone who said they aren't sure making him suffer more is the right punishment, esp when he is so clearly devastated. how much beyond say a year in jail is necessary for him to "get it together", when he could be repaying his debt to society in so many other ways, outside of prison (and i mean that regardless if he's an athlete, skater ppl like, public persona, etc)
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on the newscast they said at minimum he'll do 2 1/2 years of the 4, plus he already gave them the house. yes there are consequences, and his past driving infractions were probably a factor here too but
i tend to agree with everyone who said they aren't sure making him suffer more is the right punishment, esp when he is so clearly devastated. how much beyond say a year in jail is necessary for him to "get it together", when he could be repaying his debt to society in so many other ways, outside of prison (and i mean that regardless if he's an athlete, skater ppl like, public persona, etc)
I've said this a few times, but I think this should be understood.
Do I think Cory Kennedy should be in jail for rehabilitation reasons? Probably not (he seems to have gone for treatment after this happened). I doubt he'll ever make this mistake again, and he'll probably be a law-abiding and tax-paying citizen. Do I think he should be in jail to realize he did something terrible by accident? Again, probably not. The reason he should be in jail is as a deterrent to anyone who is ever thinking about drinking and driving, and the consequences for doing it. A jail sentence is something that scares the average person and is a deterrent to stop people from drinking and driving. I don't think there is much positive about someone as talented and unlikely to offend again as Cory going to jail. But, I also realize that if we let off everyone who was a good person who made a mistake like this, there will be a significantly smaller deterrent against drinking and driving.
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Jesus some of the responses here seriously make me question humanity
Here's reality. He drove drunk, recklessly, and took a life in the process. The argument that what he blew isn't even drunk. IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER. State of Washington has a limit of .08 he was over that so bam that's driving under the influence.
I don't buy the whole it's an accident crap. It isn't news to anybody licensed to drive. You're told over and over when you go to get your license, go to traffic school, hell even in some places where you purchase alcohol, If you drive drunk there's serious consequences. It's possible you can get yourself or SOMEONE ELSE killed.
In this day of uber, lyft, air bnb, public transportation, etc, you have to be a real fucking idiot to get behind the wheel drunk, even a bigger idiot to get in the car with them knowing they're not fit to drive. Because of incredibly poor decisions, 2 kids have to live their life now without their father and a wife who has to figure out how to raise her kids on her own.
"He has to live his life knowing he killed his best friend, that's punishment enough." Sorry, but not in the eyes of the law. State has laws and a a series of repercussions if those laws are broken. Taking into consideration some of the information here, sounds like he caught a break.
I like Cory he's incredibly fucking talented, but he's also got a problem. Now he's got plenty of time to think about it and get his shit together. I hope he does.
yea vashon island is a small quiet island, honestly not even sure if there is a bus out there.
that being said you should obviously just not drink, doesnt excuse driving.
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Jesus some of the responses here seriously make me question humanity
Here's reality. He drove drunk, recklessly, and took a life in the process. The argument that what he blew isn't even drunk. IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER. State of Washington has a limit of .08 he was over that so bam that's driving under the influence.
I don't buy the whole it's an accident crap. It isn't news to anybody licensed to drive. You're told over and over when you go to get your license, go to traffic school, hell even in some places where you purchase alcohol, If you drive drunk there's serious consequences. It's possible you can get yourself or SOMEONE ELSE killed.
In this day of uber, lyft, air bnb, public transportation, etc, you have to be a real fucking idiot to get behind the wheel drunk, even a bigger idiot to get in the car with them knowing they're not fit to drive. Because of incredibly poor decisions, 2 kids have to live their life now without their father and a wife who has to figure out how to raise her kids on her own.
"He has to live his life knowing he killed his best friend, that's punishment enough." Sorry, but not in the eyes of the law. State has laws and a a series of repercussions if those laws are broken. Taking into consideration some of the information here, sounds like he caught a break.
I like Cory he's incredibly fucking talented, but he's also got a problem. Now he's got plenty of time to think about it and get his shit together. I hope he does.
yea vashon island is a small quiet island, honestly not even sure if there is a bus out there.
that being said you should obviously just not drink, doesnt excuse driving.
According to google maps its only accessible by ferry. There is no road-way there. But, your last statement I 100% agree with.
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I just watched the news segment with Cory, P-Stones wife all being filmed testifying, or making victims statements. The judge too. Cory trying to talk and say his apology was heartbreaking.
I carry a pocket blower to make sure I'm legal and not impaired. I've blown over .08 after ONE good DIPA, that's for sure
DIPA's are usually 8-10% alcohol so that's like drinking 2 or even 3 regular everyday beers
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do you think the alcohol had any impact on the accident?
.1 isnt even drunk!!!!!!
I bought a personal breathalyzer when I was "Lahey" from trailer park boys for Halloween. I can tell you that based on my breathalyzer when I hit .1 I was right at "drunk". Not outta control or anything, but I tried to hover around .1 - .12 when I partied. It was my sweet spot, and I was definitely feeling the effects of the alcohol at that point and would not have gotten behind the wheel.
Go out and buy one and it might change your view of a .1. Just sayin...
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okay, .12 then
you fucking moron.
ps I hate even commenting in this thread. This whole situation sucks. Moroninc teenagers like kentrock need to fuck off.
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My friend got 6 months probation for dui. Fuckin moron didn't kill anyone but still uncool of him.
My friend got 3 months time served for reckless driving. He was pulled over going 55 in a 35. In Virginia anything 20 over the speed limit is considered reckless driving and comes with a jail sentence or something like that. This was my friends first offense so he didn’t actually serve the jail time but it’s still on his record. Crazy
Yeah, got a first offender DUI in Virginia from having an adverse reaction to zoloft (no alcohol/no drugs). Was put on probation for a little over 4 years and paid around 10 grand in fines. Yeah, this is NO BULLSHIT. I also had to complete a drug/alcohol program as its mandatory in my shit county. It essentially ruined my life. Lost just about everything. The judicial system is fucked. Truly a fucked up, good ole boys network that has absolutely nothing to do with rehabilitation. People always preach "rehabilitation programs", but the simple fact is that (based on my personal experience) those running these "programs" don't know a fucking thing about addiction.
Fuck the court system. It's one of the biggest rackets we have in this cuntry. I'm still trying to get over that this happen to me. Cory is fucked. He will never fully recover from this incident. Hopefully, he can get over Prestons death and the guilt. From my point of view, he will never be the same person after cycling through the judicial system. It's a mindfuck. I truly hate it for him. Dude ripped and unfortunately his time in skateboarding is officially over. The life he once had exists in a world that he'll never live in again.
Whoa seriously four years? Couldn't they ease up since it's prescribed? And yeah I've had to attend an outpatient thing for addiction and the instructor was fuckin clueless. Nice guy though shout out mr.thack.
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My friend got 6 months probation for dui. Fuckin moron didn't kill anyone but still uncool of him.
My friend got 3 months time served for reckless driving. He was pulled over going 55 in a 35. In Virginia anything 20 over the speed limit is considered reckless driving and comes with a jail sentence or something like that. This was my friends first offense so he didn’t actually serve the jail time but it’s still on his record. Crazy
Yeah, got a first offender DUI in Virginia from having an adverse reaction to zoloft (no alcohol/no drugs). Was put on probation for a little over 4 years and paid around 10 grand in fines. Yeah, this is NO BULLSHIT. I also had to complete a drug/alcohol program as its mandatory in my shit county. It essentially ruined my life. Lost just about everything. The judicial system is fucked. Truly a fucked up, good ole boys network that has absolutely nothing to do with rehabilitation. People always preach "rehabilitation programs", but the simple fact is that (based on my personal experience) those running these "programs" don't know a fucking thing about addiction.
Fuck the court system. It's one of the biggest rackets we have in this cuntry. I'm still trying to get over that this happen to me. Cory is fucked. He will never fully recover from this incident. Hopefully, he can get over Prestons death and the guilt. From my point of view, he will never be the same person after cycling through the judicial system. It's a mindfuck. I truly hate it for him. Dude ripped and unfortunately his time in skateboarding is officially over. The life he once had exists in a world that he'll never live in again.
Whoa seriously four years? Couldn't they ease up since it's prescribed? And yeah I've had to attend an outpatient thing for addiction and the instructor was fuckin clueless. Nice guy though shout out mr.thack.
It was actually 1 year of real probation. However, they immediately put me on whats called "pre-trial" probation (even though I had not even seen a judge or been found guilty) and I had to go see a PO (take piss tests, couldn't leave the state, etc) during that time. My trial was postponed for 3 years and so I had to go see him once of month for that entire time. If I would've failed a piss test or done anything wrong it was just as though I had violated real probation. VA is awful when it comes to the court system. But yeah, in total in was 4 years (3 years of pre-trial and one year of supervised probation. The whole incident was absolutely crazy. A clinical psychiatrist even confirmed I suffered a "dissociative fugue" due to the adverse reaction from the zoloft. But, they still found me guilty. It was a total fucking sham and I'm so thankful I didn't kill someone during the time I was blacked out. Still to this day I don't remember anything from the incident.
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you dont think a .1 BAC affects your driving at all? what level do you think constitutes being drunk?
1.1?
You're right, I should really question the way the world works, such as... **checks notes** the possibilities of replacing my blood with pure alcohol.
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a message to everyone here, if your drunk, please dont drive. dont risk killing yourself or someone else and avoid the problems that come with it. i hope we can all live one more day
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The whole thing is awful from beginning to end, and it seems like CK is handling it with as much class as would be possible.
Can’t help but think that he would have benefitted from spending a little more and getting a lawyer with a human face:
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The whole thing is awful from beginning to end, and it seems like CK is handling it with as much class as would be possible.
Can’t help but think that he would have benefitted from spending a little more and getting a lawyer with a human face:
(http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Cory_Kennedy_court_illustration-1024x681.png)
yeah and choosing to pose all him and p-stone's empty bottles behind him prolly did not endear him to the judge either.
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soon cory kennedy will be a forgotten memory. and we will move onto the next skater that does something stupid. the sad truth.
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soon cory kennedy will be a forgotten memory. and we will move onto the next skater that does something stupid. the sad truth.
Hey that's awesome that youve written him off, you know some people have the ability to move on just so you know.
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soon cory kennedy will be a forgotten memory. and we will move onto the next skater that does something stupid. the sad truth.
I hope not. I really want to see this dude come out of this on top.
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soon cory kennedy will be a forgotten memory. and we will move onto the next skater that does something stupid. the sad truth.
I'm sure you won't let that happen seeing how you appear to be the biggest rider of his felonious nuts.
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soon cory kennedy will be a forgotten memory. and we will move onto the next skater that does something stupid. the sad truth.
I'm sure you won't let that happen seeing how you appear to be the biggest rider of his felonious nuts.
felonious nuts HAHAHA i'm ded.
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Hopefully Cory serves his time and comes out motivated to be sober and will become a better person in the end. Would rather see this as an inspiring story of paying for his mistakes and redemption then a tragic story of wasted talent and drinking and drugs destroying his life and those around him. Would rather have him be the next Guy Mariano than Greg Myers...
I also hope PStones family is taken care of an can slowly heal and rebuild their life, although I'm sure it will be impossible to actually fully move on an rebuild. Its good to know his memory an legacy will be preserved by Deluxe and the industry as a whole. This situation sucks for all involved and I'm sure that Cory will forever feel the hurt of causing his friends death.
Im not one to judge and dont look down on anyone who drinks but personally I don't drink because I had a problem with getting in the car an making the short 2-3 mile drive from the bars to my home. I haven't drank in 3 years and never will again. Last time i drank i puked all over myself while driving and was full on brownout. I'm so grateful I never got a DUI or hurt myself or anyone else. I don't think I could have lived with myself had I killed someone or seriously injured them.
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Haha good catch. Fixed.
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Hopefully Cory serves his time and comes out motivated to be sober and will become a better person in the end.
you aint core if you dont party.
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you dont think a .1 BAC affects your driving at all? what level do you think constitutes being drunk?
1.1?
1.1 would be 1.1% B.A.C, so you should check those notes again.
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you dont think a .1 BAC affects your driving at all? what level do you think constitutes being drunk?
1.1?
1.1 would be 1.1% B.A.C, so you should check those notes again.
Good luck with that 1.1 BAC. Let me know how you make out!
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Has Cory Kennedy has been transferred from jail to prison yet? Does anyone know what prison he going to?
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soon cory kennedy will be a forgotten memory. and we will move onto the next skater that does something stupid. the sad truth.
I hope not. I really want to see this dude come out of this on top.
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soon cory kennedy will be a forgotten memory. and we will move onto the next skater that does something stupid. the sad truth.
I hope not. I really want to see this dude come out of this on top.
i hope he comes out on top in prison too rather that having his ass pounded. hahahaha
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soon cory kennedy will be a forgotten memory. and we will move onto the next skater that does something stupid. the sad truth.
I hope not. I really want to see this dude come out of this on top.
i hope he comes out on top in prison too rather that having his ass pounded. hahahaha
Why? do you think it'd affect his skate steez? Would make for a 'pretty sweet' board graphic tho.
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soon cory kennedy will be a forgotten memory. and we will move onto the next skater that does something stupid. the sad truth.
I hope not. I really want to see this dude come out of this on top.
i hope he comes out on top in prison too rather that having his ass pounded. hahahaha
prison rape isn't funny, jesus christ. you're just worst, through and through.
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soon cory kennedy will be a forgotten memory. and we will move onto the next skater that does something stupid. the sad truth.
I hope not. I really want to see this dude come out of this on top.
i hope he comes out on top in prison too rather that having his ass pounded. hahahaha
prison rape isn't funny, jesus christ. you're just worst, through and through.
Watch Big Herc's youtube channel "fresh out" and tell me you don't get a couple of laughs dude.
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Court artist clearly a graduate of the Napoleon Dynamite school of shading.
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soon cory kennedy will be a forgotten memory. and we will move onto the next skater that does something stupid. the sad truth.
I hope not. I really want to see this dude come out of this on top.
i hope he comes out on top in prison too rather that having his ass pounded. hahahaha
no i dont think it'd affect his skate steez, getting raped on the bottom hurts and isnt the least enjoyable. trust me, not in prison, but my experience.
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You guy's were quick to insist Jason Jesse can't change and is still a Racist !! Even though the people closest to him would tell you otherwise & he's asking for the SK8 worlds forgiveness.Yet you are QUick to want the Judge, To Forgive Cory and give him a small SLAP on the wrist!! Why ??? because he's suffered enough, He's really Really Really Sorry, He lives in a small tight knit community and everyone there loves him (he's pats the kids on the head & gives them trick tips n' stuff), he wasnt really that buzzed, Etc....Hmmmmmmmmmm
ARe you guys trolling with all this Schtuff ??
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You guys are forgetting that there are two young boys that will grow up without their father.
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he's asking for the SK8 worlds forgiveness
that was a piss poor apology and didn't even address his racism at all. He could have been saying sorry for spilling your milk for all we know...
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You guy's were quick to insist Jason Jesse can't change and is still a Racist !! Even though the people closest to him would tell you otherwise & he's asking for the SK8 worlds forgiveness.Yet you are QUick to want the Judge, To Forgive Cory and give him a small SLAP on the wrist!! Why ??? because he's suffered enough, He's really Really Really Sorry, He lives in a small tight knit community and everyone there loves him (he's pats the kids on the head & gives them trick tips n' stuff), he wasnt really that buzzed, Etc....Hmmmmmmmmmm
ARe you guys trolling with all this Schtuff ??
Nah
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You guy's were quick to insist Jason Jesse can't change and is still a Racist !! Even though the people closest to him would tell you otherwise & he's asking for the SK8 worlds forgiveness.Yet you are QUick to want the Judge, To Forgive Cory and give him a small SLAP on the wrist!! Why ??? because he's suffered enough, He's really Really Really Sorry, He lives in a small tight knit community and everyone there loves him (he's pats the kids on the head & gives them trick tips n' stuff), he wasnt really that buzzed, Etc....Hmmmmmmmmmm
ARe you guys trolling with all this Schtuff ??
who said he couldnt change? the fact that he was still brandishing nazi stuff AFTER that thread was made showed he hadnt changed yet.
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This popped up on my feed. Not sure if someone already posted it. It's not the best quality but quick briefing on the hearing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLKNwlrMJ88
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hopefully not emerging in 2.5 years with a bible and fedora
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I really don’t think there’s been a thread with so much stupidity. I nearly went to jail for dui with no priors and I didn’t kill anyone thank fuck. I was fucking .4 though. Don’t even remember getting in the car. The shame was palpable. If I had killed anyone I’d suck up the jail time. 4 years is bugger all. Has got me wondering though, do Americans make a habit of not buckling up? I’ve hardly ever seen that in oz.
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You guys are forgetting that there are two young boys that will grow up without their father.
Due in good part to their own father's decisions.
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Aaaand here we go ::)
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I really don’t think there’s been a thread with so much stupidity. I nearly went to jail for dui with no priors and I didn’t kill anyone thank fuck. I was fucking .4 though. Don’t even remember getting in the car. The shame was palpable. If I had killed anyone I’d suck up the jail time. 4 years is bugger all. Has got me wondering though, do Americans make a habit of not buckling up? I’ve hardly ever seen that in oz.
this thread is about cory fucking kennedy, not your own drinking and driving. make your own thread
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I really don’t think there’s been a thread with so much stupidity. I nearly went to jail for dui with no priors and I didn’t kill anyone thank fuck. I was fucking .4 though. Don’t even remember getting in the car. The shame was palpable. If I had killed anyone I’d suck up the jail time. 4 years is bugger all. Has got me wondering though, do Americans make a habit of not buckling up? I’ve hardly ever seen that in oz.
this thread is about cory fucking kennedy, not your own drinking and driving. make your own thread
please dont do this.
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I really don’t think there’s been a thread with so much stupidity. I nearly went to jail for dui with no priors and I didn’t kill anyone thank fuck. I was fucking .4 though. Don’t even remember getting in the car. The shame was palpable. If I had killed anyone I’d suck up the jail time. 4 years is bugger all. Has got me wondering though, do Americans make a habit of not buckling up? I’ve hardly ever seen that in oz.
this thread is about cory fucking kennedy, not your own drinking and driving. make your own thread
Considering the amount of sheer fuckwittery going on here, including from you, I'll leave out my ever so self indulgent story and reiterate my question instead seeing as it's pretty pertinent to Preston's death.
do Americans make a habit of not buckling up? I’ve hardly ever seen that in oz.
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I really don’t think there’s been a thread with so much stupidity. I nearly went to jail for dui with no priors and I didn’t kill anyone thank fuck. I was fucking .4 though. Don’t even remember getting in the car. The shame was palpable. If I had killed anyone I’d suck up the jail time. 4 years is bugger all. Has got me wondering though, do Americans make a habit of not buckling up? I’ve hardly ever seen that in oz.
i fully don't get that. as a father i can't imagine getting into a car drunk, with someone who's drunk driving and not buckling up. i wear a helmet now when i rid my bike to the gym. this is something i would have never done before i had kids but if i get plowed now it's not just me.
yeah, yeah, victim shamming... aka talking about what actually happened.
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So if I get t-boned by someone blowing a res light, is it my fault because I got behind the wheel that day?
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yeah, yeah, victim shaming... aka talking about what actually happened.
It's not victim shaming, because he wasn't a victim. He made a choice to get in that vehicle.
So if I get t-boned by someone blowing a res light, is it my fault because I got behind the wheel that day?
Only if you were drunk. Then it's the fault of both of you.
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would p-stone still be alive if he had not gotten in a car with a drunk driver, or had buckled up?
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I was fucking .4 though
jesus
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I really don’t think there’s been a thread with so much stupidity. I nearly went to jail for dui with no priors and I didn’t kill anyone thank fuck. I was fucking .4 though. Don’t even remember getting in the car. The shame was palpable. If I had killed anyone I’d suck up the jail time. 4 years is bugger all. Has got me wondering though, do Americans make a habit of not buckling up? I’ve hardly ever seen that in oz.
i fully don't get that. as a father i can't imagine getting into a car drunk, with someone who's drunk driving and not buckling up. i wear a helmet now when i rid my bike to the gym. this is something i would have never done before i had kids but if i get plowed now it's not just me.
yeah, yeah, victim shamming... aka talking about what actually happened.
Hope your kids are locked up safely while you are pumping iron
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jesus
I don’t care if you were drunk or not, 4 year olds shouldn’t be behind the wheel of an automobile. I’ve always said it and I stand by it.
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I don’t care if you were drunk or not, 4 year olds shouldn’t be behind the wheel of an automobile. I’ve always said it and I stand by it.
i agree. that's crazy.
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I really don’t think there’s been a thread with so much stupidity. I nearly went to jail for dui with no priors and I didn’t kill anyone thank fuck. I was fucking .4 though. Don’t even remember getting in the car. The shame was palpable. If I had killed anyone I’d suck up the jail time. 4 years is bugger all. Has got me wondering though, do Americans make a habit of not buckling up? I’ve hardly ever seen that in oz.
yeah, yeah, victim shamming... aka talking about what actually happened.
I've held my tongue about this but who the fuck doesn't wear a seat belt while riding shot gun? Most cars these days won't even stop beeping until you buckle up. That plus getting in the car with someone whose been drinking is idiotic, reckless, and selfish.
The coroners report said that what actually killed him was not wearing a seatbealt.
P-Stone was an amazing dude but he was a road dog and should've known better.
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We rock no funny shit. Raven is a beast but he should really finish 7th grade.
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I drive a car and I don't let it move until everyone has their seatbelts on.
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I drive a car and I don't let it move until everyone has their seatbelts on.
you must get nowhere considering your car is probably full of jerks
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If being a nazi, beating your wife, or killing P-Stone doesn't get your board pulled, I can't imagine what would.
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If being a nazi, beating your wife, or killing P-Stone doesn't get your board pulled, I can't imagine what would.
Add being TK to that list.
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If being a nazi, beating your wife, or killing P-Stone doesn't get your board pulled, I can't imagine what would.
Ask Johnny Layton
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no funny shit tho guys!
what the fuck does he even mean?
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what even does funny shit mean these days
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I drive a car and I don't let it move until everyone has their seatbelts on.
Here's hoping you never become a bus driver
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If being a nazi, beating your wife, or killing P-Stone doesn't get your board pulled, I can't imagine what would.
so ruthless but so true
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Did everyone just completely miss the part where he had reefer in his system too?
Does that alter anyone's perceptions of whether or not his BAC was 'acceptable' at the time?
It's a legal system, not a justice one...
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Did everyone just completely miss the part where he had reefer in his system too?
Does that alter anyone's perceptions of whether or not his BAC was 'acceptable' at the time?
It's a legal system, not a justice one...
just bcuz he had weed in his system doesnt change his blood ALCOHOL content.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLKNwlrMJ88 beacause because you all missed the video footage of the trail
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As a recovering alcoholic, I want to punch CK in the face (partially projecting my own anger at my own numerous potential DUIs) just for allowing others to ride w/ him when his driving capabilities were impaired. I know plenty of people w/ lives ruined because of these entirely selfish acts & they are nothing short of tragic in every instance.
(yeah yeah yeah, sober guy babble above)
As a skateboarder, I don't want to see anyone go down like this.
CK should've known better... Everyone involved should've thought twice about the situation.
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Did everyone just completely miss the part where he had reefer in his system too?
Does that alter anyone's perceptions of whether or not his BAC was 'acceptable' at the time?
It's a legal system, not a justice one...
just bcuz he had weed in his system doesnt change his blood ALCOHOL content.
I meant more to say is being tipsy + lightly high still acceptable?
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Did everyone just completely miss the part where he had reefer in his system too?
Does that alter anyone's perceptions of whether or not his BAC was 'acceptable' at the time?
It's a legal system, not a justice one...
just bcuz he had weed in his system doesnt change his blood ALCOHOL content.
I meant more to say is being tipsy + lightly high still acceptable?
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It is illegal to drive a vehicle while under the influence of marijuana, alcohol, other drugs, or a combination of substances. When alcohol is involved, a blood alcohol level of 0.08 percent of the driver's blood, by volume, will conclusively establish that the driver is under the influence (if the level is less, the prosecutor can still point to the driver's actions to prove that he was under the influence).(Wa. Rev. Code Ann. § 46.61.502.)
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just to devil's advocate, weed can show up in your system from wks ago. he might not have been high w/ the meth at the time of the crash but his piss would still show weed from days ago.
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just to devil's advocate, weed can show up in your system from wks ago. he might not have been high w/ the meth at the time of the crash but his piss would still show weed from days ago.
they would blood test in a situation like this so that is not a valid argument.
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just to devil's advocate, weed can show up in your system from wks ago. he might not have been high w/ the meth at the time of the crash but his piss would still show weed from days ago.
they would blood test in a situation like this so that is not a valid argument.
take it w/ a grain since it's from a pro weed site but they're making the argument that [like urine] blood will harbor residual weed in it from daily smokers. so what's considered impaired for a newbie wouldn't be for a seasone stoner.
http://www.ilovegrowingmarijuana.com/marijuana-blood-drug-testing/
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just to devil's advocate, weed can show up in your system from wks ago. he might not have been high w/ the meth at the time of the crash but his piss would still show weed from days ago.
they would blood test in a situation like this so that is not a valid argument.
when it comes to talks of drugs and alcohol, i totally respect the opinion of someone with the name "straight fucking edge"
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Cory admitted to the police that he was smoking weed earlier in the night. No one tested him, and it wasn't part of his charges.
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Did everyone just completely miss the part where he had reefer in his system too?
Does that alter anyone's perceptions of whether or not his BAC was 'acceptable' at the time?
It's a legal system, not a justice one...
just bcuz he had weed in his system doesnt change his blood ALCOHOL content.
I meant more to say is being tipsy + lightly high still acceptable?
Not according to Washington State law -
It is illegal to drive a vehicle while under the influence of marijuana, alcohol, other drugs, or a combination of substances. When alcohol is involved, a blood alcohol level of 0.08 percent of the driver's blood, by volume, will conclusively establish that the driver is under the influence (if the level is less, the prosecutor can still point to the driver's actions to prove that he was under the influence).(Wa. Rev. Code Ann. § 46.61.502.)
In California Proving DUI of marijuana presents serious challenges for a prosecutor. This is because unlike alcohol, there is no “legal limit” for marijuana
Washington and Colorado, where voters legalized marijuana in 2012, have a 5-nanogram limit on the level of THC -- marijuana's active ingredient -- in a driver's blood. But Oregon has no limit and is instead relying on police officers' observations.
The more long-term marijuana users are studied, the more we learn that THC levels may remain high in their body even if they are not currently under the influence. Some experts believe that you can’t really tell if someone is impaired by their THC blood levels alone. Again, although overall traffic-related fatalities have not grown, the THC content in drivers’ blood has.
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Did everyone just completely miss the part where he had reefer in his system too?
Does that alter anyone's perceptions of whether or not his BAC was 'acceptable' at the time?
It's a legal system, not a justice one...
just bcuz he had weed in his system doesnt change his blood ALCOHOL content.
I meant more to say is being tipsy + lightly high still acceptable?
Not according to Washington State law -
It is illegal to drive a vehicle while under the influence of marijuana, alcohol, other drugs, or a combination of substances. When alcohol is involved, a blood alcohol level of 0.08 percent of the driver's blood, by volume, will conclusively establish that the driver is under the influence (if the level is less, the prosecutor can still point to the driver's actions to prove that he was under the influence).(Wa. Rev. Code Ann. § 46.61.502.)
In California Proving DUI of marijuana presents serious challenges for a prosecutor. This is because unlike alcohol, there is no “legal limit” for marijuana
Washington and Colorado, where voters legalized marijuana in 2012, have a 5-nanogram limit on the level of THC -- marijuana's active ingredient -- in a driver's blood. But Oregon has no limit and is instead relying on police officers' observations.
The more long-term marijuana users are studied, the more we learn that THC levels may remain high in their body even if they are not currently under the influence. Some experts believe that you can’t really tell if someone is impaired by their THC blood levels alone. Again, although overall traffic-related fatalities have not grown, the THC content in drivers’ blood has.
thats bcuz weed doesnt impair your ability to drive. proven fact.
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kentrock, thanks for all the reminders that this forum is open to the entire public, including children with developing minds. Sincerely, I appreciate it. Hope the start of the school year is going well. Also, regardless of all your apologist, enabling, super uneducated positions, I hope that when you get your license you'll never drive drunk or stoned, or ride in a car with people who are drunk or stoned. Stay in school!
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BnpNCKxhw4s/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=npt7r0b3im6l
edit: this was a post from skaterats, it had cory's mailing address in jail and a call to send him some love. did anyone screen shot it? someone should send him a printed copy of the dill photoshop thread.
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just to devil's advocate, weed can show up in your system from wks ago. he might not have been high w/ the meth at the time of the crash but his piss would still show weed from days ago.
they would blood test in a situation like this so that is not a valid argument.
http://www.ilovegrowingmarijuana.com/marijuana-blood-drug-testing/
i was once arrested for DUI after i made an illegal left turn leaving a bar. obviously i wasn’t drunk and i passed all of the sobriety tests as well as the breathalyzer but the officer could not fathom my red eyes (it was april— allergies in full swing). they took me back to the station and hooked me up to the real breathalyzer ran and test after test tracking my eyes, reaction times, all that bullshit. after a few hours passed and they still had nothing they finally said that if i agreed to a blood test and if it came back negative, they would drop all charges. they said that the blood test only counted for the last 24 hours. so there’s a first band experience
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just to devil's advocate, weed can show up in your system from wks ago. he might not have been high w/ the meth at the time of the crash but his piss would still show weed from days ago.
they would blood test in a situation like this so that is not a valid argument.
nobody cares about what you do and don’t do
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Drug testing has come along way in the last 15 years.
Our drug tests(including cannabis) will detect any of the main elicit substances, when it was taken, the amounts etc. Its It's incredibly accurate too.
But it's expensive and takes up to 4 weeks to test do mainly to high demand from the employers.
Anyhow, rip p stone and I wish cory the best
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLKNwlrMJ88 beacause because you all missed the video footage of the trail
Thank you for posting. You can tell that Cory is truly remorseful and regrets making such a poor decision. I can't imagine having to live everyday knowing I cause my best friends death. I think it says a lot about Cory as a person and his character that PStones family and friends asked for a reduced sentence with no jail time. He does need to face the consequences for his actions but I don't think it's fair the people on here are demonizing him for this. I hope he gets out early for good behavior and can resume his career. Ideally he will turnnevative event into a situation where he can get sober, pay his debt to society and PStones family and friends, and be an example of someone who pulled their life back together after a tragedy and did something positive with it. Whether he speak to youth about drinking and driving and it's dangers or just join AA and help other people get sober and overcome their past mistakes or problems.
Personally, I use Reynolds as a person who got clean and was able to be productive and made their life better by staying clean. I'm currently 33 days sober and being able to look up to him, Ellington, Greco, and AA helps just as much as going to NA meetings daily. Seeing those who you respect do it and also share their story and share any wisdom learned from the process is what i need to help myself go through each day. That's just me and i know everyone's addiction and recovery is different.
Best of luck to Cory and thoughts and prayers to PStones family and friends.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLKNwlrMJ88 beacause because you all missed the video footage of the trail
Thank you for posting. You can tell that Cory is truly remorseful and regrets making such a poor decision. I can't imagine having to live everyday knowing I cause my best friends death. I think it says a lot about Cory as a person and his character that PStones family and friends asked for a reduced sentence with no jail time. He does need to face the consequences for his actions but I don't think it's fair the people on here are demonizing him for this. I hope he gets out early for good behavior and can resume his career. Ideally he will turnnevative event into a situation where he can get sober, pay his debt to society and PStones family and friends, and be an example of someone who pulled their life back together after a tragedy and did something positive with it. Whether he speak to youth about drinking and driving and it's dangers or just join AA and help other people get sober and overcome their past mistakes or problems.
Personally, I use Reynolds as a person who got clean and was able to be productive and made their life better by staying clean. I'm currently 33 days sober and being able to look up to him, Ellington, Greco, and AA helps just as much as going to NA meetings daily. Seeing those who you respect do it and also share their story and share any wisdom learned from the process is what i need to help myself go through each day. That's just me and i know everyone's addiction and recovery is different.
Best of luck to Cory and thoughts and prayers to PStones family and friends.
its really sad that p-stone is dead and cory kennedy got fucked over
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its really sad that p-stone is dead and cory kennedy got fucked over
The amount of stupidity and delusion in this thread is incredible. that being said i'm really happy to see this thread go alot different than the Boulala threads where "fuck it if he wants to have a few beers i fully support it it's your life" was an overaching theme.
we've improved. i like CK and i wish him the best, i hope to never seem him drinking in footage again. As someone else pointed out you can get legit jail time for DUIs where you don't kill anyone.
CK did not get fucked over. he's incredibly lucky
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thats bcuz weed doesnt impair your ability to drive. proven fact.
fucking hell, he'll probably quote Cypress Hill or some shit...
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thats bcuz weed doesnt impair your ability to drive. proven fact.
I thought there was a study done in colorado showing it improved driving performance in some people.
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Well that was a fucking bummer to watch.
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thats bcuz weed doesnt impair your ability to drive. proven fact.
I thought there was a study done in colorado showing it improved driving performance in some people.
http://clinchem.aaccjnls.org/content/clinchem/early/2012/12/06/clinchem.2012.194381.full.pdf here's a review study.
From the Abstract: [...] Experimental data show that drivers attempt to compensate by driving more slowly after smoking cannabis, but control deteriorates with increasing task complexity. Cannabis smoking increases lane weaving and impaired cognitive function. Critical-tracking tests, reaction times, divided-attention tasks, and laneposition variability all show cannabis-induced impairment.
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thats bcuz weed doesnt impair your ability to drive. proven fact.
I thought there was a study done in colorado showing it improved driving performance in some people.
The only thing it ever improved on me was my Oreo-eating performance, ifyouknowwhatimean
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thats bcuz weed doesnt impair your ability to drive. proven fact.
I thought there was a study done in colorado showing it improved driving performance in some people.
http://clinchem.aaccjnls.org/content/clinchem/early/2012/12/06/clinchem.2012.194381.full.pdf here's a review study.
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[...] Experimental data show that drivers attempt to compensate by driving more slowly after smoking cannabis, but control deteriorates with increasing task complexity. Cannabis smoking increases lane weaving and impaired cognitive function. Critical-tracking tests, reaction times, divided-attention tasks, and laneposition variability all show cannabis-induced impairment.
I must've been remembering through smoke coloured glasses. That doesn't sound very reassuring, but I don't smoke and drive as much as I used to.
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Sucks to watch him being sentenced. I understand why the Judge still gave him 4 years which is only a third of what he risked and I'm guessing that good behaviour might see his sentence reduced further.
The main thing I feel from this is the responsibility the friends/family/sponsors have in trying to steer someone like Cory away from the stupid substance abuse and care-free attitude. I mean Girl lost Keenan to partying and here goes another talented rider of theirs. If I was Rick, Megan or Spike I'd have a serious look at how some of my riders, more importantly friends were carrying themselves and what sort of image I was trying to sell to the masses. Another example would be Baker or Flip...
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Sucks to watch him being sentenced. I understand why the Judge still gave him 4 years which is only a third of what he risked and I'm guessing that good behaviour might see his sentence reduced further.
The main thing I feel from this is the responsibility the friends/family/sponsors have in trying to steer someone like Cory away from the stupid substance abuse and care-free attitude. I mean Girl lost Keenan to partying and here goes another talented rider of theirs. If I was Rick, Megan or Spike I'd have a serious look at how some of my riders, more importantly friends were carrying themselves and what sort of image I was trying to sell to the masses. Another example would be Baker or Flip...
You're thinking this through much too logically and rationally, I can't really see any of them drastically changing the way they conduct "business".
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Sucks to watch him being sentenced. I understand why the Judge still gave him 4 years which is only a third of what he risked and I'm guessing that good behaviour might see his sentence reduced further.
The main thing I feel from this is the responsibility the friends/family/sponsors have in trying to steer someone like Cory away from the stupid substance abuse and care-free attitude. I mean Girl lost Keenan to partying and here goes another talented rider of theirs. If I was Rick, Megan or Spike I'd have a serious look at how some of my riders, more importantly friends were carrying themselves and what sort of image I was trying to sell to the masses. Another example would be Baker or Flip...
bcuz then you have boring dickheads like nyjah huston and a bunch of skaters pleasing they're sponsors and not being themselfs. cory kennedy was totally core and represents what skateboarding is
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A person has to have a warm heart and a cold beer.