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Skateboarding => Skate Questions => Topic started by: Goldberg on September 16, 2018, 06:27:08 AM
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Hello,
are the newer trucks much lighter than trucks from year 2006?
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way lighter and turn better
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way lighter and turn better
but they put shitty bushings and pivot cups in to make you buy aftermarket ones, I'm looking at you, indy
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How much grams lighter?
Each 40 g?
Thinking about buying new one. But if it`s only a few grams, it wouldn`t be worth it.
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I weighed an older Independent and a new Thunder truck a little while ago and the Independent one was about 40 grams heavier. The Independent truck had been ground almost to the axle, I don’t know how many grams could have been worn off.
I think Independents have always been heavier than Thunder in general though.
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Thank you. So I´ll keep my old trucks. 80-100 grams are not worth it.
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Thank you. So I´ll keep my old trucks. 80-100 grams are not worth it.
80-100 grams each is a half pound the set
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1 truck is 40 grams lighter. So it is 80-100 grams a set. Not worth it.
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1 truck is 40 grams lighter. So it is 80-100 grams a set. Not worth it.
you dont kickflip or ollie do you
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I do and it works very well.
Have a look at the 90`s and 00`s the pros had also trucks which was each 40 grams heavier. And they kickflipped and ollied very well.
Come on....80 grams...are you serious, that this matter? LOL
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I do and it works very will.
Have a lookt at the 90`s and 00`s the pros had also trucks which was each 40 grams heavier. And the kickflipped and ollied very well.
80 grams, are you serious, that this matter? LOL
Bro you’re the one asking about it in the first place? 80 grams is a helluva difference on board.
Yes you CAN Ollie & do fliptricks with those brick ass 10 year old trucks but it’s a lot easier with lighter ones, plus you’ll probably have more overall endurance throughout the session
Also, weight aside, the TURN GEOMETRY has likely gone through multiple revisions no matter what brand (Indy, Venture, & thunder have all been modified multiple times since) so yeah, there’s defintely benefit to not skating some 12 year old trucks in 2018
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I do and it works very will.
Have a lookt at the 90`s and 00`s the pros had also trucks which was each 40 grams heavier. And the kickflipped and ollied very well.
80 grams, are you serious, that this matter? LOL
Bro you’re the one asking about it in the first place? 80 grams is a helluva difference on board.
Yes you CAN Ollie & do fliptricks with those brick ass 10 year old trucks but it’s a lot easier with lighter ones, plus you’ll probably have more overall endurance throughout the session
Also, weight aside, the TURN GEOMETRY has likely gone through multiple revisions no matter what brand (Indy, Venture, & thunder have all been modified multiple times since) so yeah, there’s defintely benefit to not skating some 12 year old trucks in 2018
exactly wut he said^^^^^^^^^^^
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Ok, thx. Maybe I`ll give it a try. But I think it is overvalued. Like many things in the industrie.
expensive shoes, boards vs. cheap shoes, boards.
Often only a slight difference, which doesn`t justify much higher prices.
Don´t get fooled by marketing.
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I do and it works very will.
Have a lookt at the 90`s and 00`s the pros had also trucks which was each 40 grams heavier. And the kickflipped and ollied very well.
80 grams, are you serious, that this matter? LOL
Bro you’re the one asking about it in the first place? 80 grams is a helluva difference on board.
Yes you CAN Ollie & do fliptricks with those brick ass 10 year old trucks but it’s a lot easier with lighter ones, plus you’ll probably have more overall endurance throughout the session
Also, weight aside, the TURN GEOMETRY has likely gone through multiple revisions no matter what brand (Indy, Venture, & thunder have all been modified multiple times since) so yeah, there’s defintely benefit to not skating some 12 year old trucks in 2018
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Ok, thx. Maybe I`ll give it a try. But I think it is overvalued. Like many things in the industrie.
expensive shoes, boards vs. cheap shoes, boards.
Often only a slight difference, which doesn`t justify much higher prices.
Don´t get fooled by marketing.
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I do and it works very will.
Have a lookt at the 90`s and 00`s the pros had also trucks which was each 40 grams heavier. And the kickflipped and ollied very well.
80 grams, are you serious, that this matter? LOL
Bro you’re the one asking about it in the first place? 80 grams is a helluva difference on board.
Yes you CAN Ollie & do fliptricks with those brick ass 10 year old trucks but it’s a lot easier with lighter ones, plus you’ll probably have more overall endurance throughout the session
Also, weight aside, the TURN GEOMETRY has likely gone through multiple revisions no matter what brand (Indy, Venture, & thunder have all been modified multiple times since) so yeah, there’s defintely benefit to not skating some 12 year old trucks in 2018
Nah, I think you get what you pay for with shoes. They obviously don't make you better but the quality in materials is noticeable b/w a good shoe vs something from ROSS
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Ok, thx. Maybe I`ll give it a try. But I think it is overvalued. Like many things in the industrie.
expensive shoes, boards vs. cheap shoes, boards.
Often only a slight difference, which doesn`t justify much higher prices.
Don´t get fooled by marketing.
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I do and it works very will.
Have a lookt at the 90`s and 00`s the pros had also trucks which was each 40 grams heavier. And the kickflipped and ollied very well.
80 grams, are you serious, that this matter? LOL
Bro you’re the one asking about it in the first place? 80 grams is a helluva difference on board.
Yes you CAN Ollie & do fliptricks with those brick ass 10 year old trucks but it’s a lot easier with lighter ones, plus you’ll probably have more overall endurance throughout the session
Also, weight aside, the TURN GEOMETRY has likely gone through multiple revisions no matter what brand (Indy, Venture, & thunder have all been modified multiple times since) so yeah, there’s defintely benefit to not skating some 12 year old trucks in 2018
Have a gnar Goldberg. I generally agree with you on this concept, but get some goddamn new trucks.
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Oh yeah the difference is definitely noticable.
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My old trucks wrecked a few days ago.
So I bought some new ventures.
I don`t feel any difference.
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way lighter and turn better
That's the reason I prefer Thunders.
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Dude said initially that the 80 gram difference was between an indy and a thunder and idiots STILL use it as a talking point for the rest of the thread. Indys are a hair lighter than they used to be and still not as light as the super old indys that Ace copied.
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My old trucks wrecked a few days ago.
So I bought some new ventures.
I don`t feel any difference.
stop posting
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If those old trucks were Stage IX Indys, they were the lightest standard trucks made. Too bad they were also defective (baseplate holes) and turned like shit. Stage XIs are much better, though not as good as Stage VII.
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Dude said initially that the 80 gram difference was between an indy and a thunder and idiots STILL use it as a talking point for the rest of the thread. Indys are a hair lighter than they used to be and still not as light as the super old indys that Ace copied.
I think if we really want to understand the difference, first we need to know how many grams a hair weighs.
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stop posting
Stop bitching.
There`s no difference.
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Dude said initially that the 80 gram difference was between an indy and a thunder and idiots STILL use it as a talking point for the rest of the thread. Indys are a hair lighter than they used to be and still not as light as the super old indys that Ace copied.
I think if we really want to understand the difference, first we need to know how many grams a hair weighs.
I love your Burman sig, the landing strip of that rail is gnarly as shit even without a seccy at the bottom to trip you up!
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Dude said initially that the 80 gram difference was between an indy and a thunder and idiots STILL use it as a talking point for the rest of the thread. Indys are a hair lighter than they used to be and still not as light as the super old indys that Ace copied.
I think if we really want to understand the difference, first we need to know how many grams a hair weighs.
Not to muddy the waters, but isn’t a gram a measure of mass rather than weight? This could be an important consideration.
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We need a free body diagram, with all the forces acting on said hair to determine its weight. What is its Euclidean vector?
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Dude said initially that the 80 gram difference was between an indy and a thunder and idiots STILL use it as a talking point for the rest of the thread. Indys are a hair lighter than they used to be and still not as light as the super old indys that Ace copied.
I think if we really want to understand the difference, first we need to know how many grams a hair weighs.
Not to muddy the waters, but isn’t a gram a measure of mass rather than weight? This could be an important consideration.
really? people think this?
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My old trucks wrecked a few days ago.
So I bought some new ventures.
I don`t feel any difference.
Your ten year old trucks broke? Shocking. Thats another reason to buy new trucks, besides weight and turning geometry.
Also it feels good to ride what you like, without necessarily worrying about the price tag. Fuck being a broke skate rat past the age of 25. Spoil yourself a bit.
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the hollow indy's arent much lighter at all i would not recommend giving money for that
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Hello,
are the newer trucks much lighter than trucks from year 2006?
So you are skating trucks from 2006? And you're wondering if the new ones are lighter. You then say 100 grams is not worth it and you DO ollie and kick flip.
Dude WTF , theres no way you skate. No way. Maybe cruise around or whatever but if that doesnt make a difference to you and your fucking trucks last you 10+ years then I have a hard time believing you do shit on a skateboard. Come on, this almost seems like a joke. Why the fuck would you care about lightness when your trucks are fucking over a decade old. And then the newer trucks aren't worth it to change out your fucking ancient POS trucks?? Yeah you dont skate. My mind is blown.
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Bought some high-quality skate shoes in february.
The sole is still good, in comparison to my cheap china shoes,
which are wrecking after 4 weeks.
Yes, at shoes I was wrong.
But my 10 year old trucks are the same quality like my new ventures.
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Bought some high-quality skate shoes in february.
The sole is still good, in comparison to my cheap china shoes,
which are wrecking after 4 weeks.
Yes, at shoes I was wrong.
But my 10 year old trucks are the same quality like my new ventures.
Dude, you really skate? Saying "high-quality shoes" makes you sound like a total kook.
Also I'm curious, which shoes would those be?
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I bought the Ultra hollow lights or whatever they're called from Thunder, the "lightest" ones they offer. I can't say I've noticed a whole lot in change from the standard ones I was previously skating.
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a) makes you sound like a total kook.
b) Also I'm curious, which shoes would those be?
I skate 5 days a week each 1,5 hours. Without resting. Ok, maybe 2 minutes.
a) for you
b) dc visalia, still cheap, compared to other skate shoes. but HIGH QUALITY, LUXURY, SUPER AWESOME, ADORABLE, HANDSOME, CUTE, SWEET, HONEYPIE, FUCKABLE, IN LOVE FOREVER
Cost me only 30 €
Now I`ll go cuddle with my supersweet shoes. LOVE`em, so cute.
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I skate 5 days a week each 1,5 hours. Without resting. Ok, maybe 2 minutes.
a) for you
b) dc visalia, still cheap, compared to other skate shoes. but HIGH QUALITY, LUXURY, SUPER AWESOME
I found OP, super awesome indeed
(https://st2.depositphotos.com/1006611/11947/i/950/depositphotos_119477468-stock-photo-young-man-with-his-skateboard.jpg)
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Very nice, that`s what we talking about.
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Hello,
are the newer trucks much lighter than trucks from year 2006?
So you are skating trucks from 2006? And you're wondering if the new ones are lighter. You then say 100 grams is not worth it and you DO ollie and kick flip.
Dude WTF , theres no way you skate. No way. Maybe cruise around or whatever but if that doesnt make a difference to you and your fucking trucks last you 10+ years then I have a hard time believing you do shit on a skateboard. Come on, this almost seems like a joke. Why the fuck would you care about lightness when your trucks are fucking over a decade old. And then the newer trucks aren't worth it to change out your fucking ancient POS trucks?? Yeah you dont skate. My mind is blown.
i just want to say that i definitely skate and have a pair of trucks bought around 2011 that are still going strong. i mostly skate ledges/transition and rotate between another pair now and then. my brother who only skates like once a month has a pair of indys that will probably last him forever. the point i want to make is that it's possible to get a lot of life out of trucks if you aren't just grinding through crusty coping all the time.
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I bought the Ultra hollow lights or whatever they're called from Thunder, the "lightest" ones they offer. I can't say I've noticed a whole lot in change from the standard ones I was previously skating.
That's because they're not actually all that much lighter. If you think about it, hollowing out the kingpin and axle isn't really removing that much material so like regular thunder 148's weigh 357g and the hollow lights are 324g. That's only slightly more than an oz. Even the Titanium hollows only get that down to like 310g or something.
The only truck I've skated thus far that actually really felt noticeably lighter have been Tensor mag lights - iirc they're something like 265g for an 8.25. And unlike the old Tensors, the new geometry ones actually turn pretty well once you replace the stock bushings, which I'm pretty sure are made from hardened dog shit. They still have nothing on Indys but if you slap some bones bushings in them they aren't that far off Thunders in my opinion. The downside to that drastic weight reduction is durability, they grind down pretty fast if you hit a lot of concrete so they're not the best choice if you're a slappy-happy chappy. I'm actually considering going for a full-blown "light in the loafers" set up and grabbing a Powell Flight or that new crazy Mullen deck at some point just to see if it actually makes any difference in my skating (it won't).