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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: sammyjones on November 13, 2007, 10:53:32 AM
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Sorry ABP
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sg.de says that Big Brother will come back...
I only had one issue, because back then US Mags were hella expensive over here in germany. But the one issue I had was fun to read...
Does anybody know?
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I Googled for about ten minutes but couldn't find shit about a resurrection. Dave Carnies blog last entry was in August. I think it's just a rumor.
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ABP (http://www.slapmagazine.com/Mambo/forum/index.php?topic=18543.0) (not a meatspin)
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they fooled my young mind into thinking Todd Falcon was a serious member of the skateboard community
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Can you really remake Big Brother? I mean, the first few issues were crazy, but towards the end, you could tell that they were 'reaching'. And I mean, reaching far. I don't think you can imitate such a ground breaking idea. I think every body just reads VICE now instead. Vice sucks by the way.
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This would be sick, the first magazine I ever bought was a Big Brother
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Can you really remake Big Brother? I mean, the first few issues were crazy, but towards the end, you could tell that they were 'reaching'. And I mean, reaching far. I don't think you can imitate such a ground breaking idea. I think every body just reads VICE now instead. Vice sucks by the way.
I don't think so. It's true that the earlier issues were more fucked up, but the later ones were still very good. This article is from the last issue they put out, and it's one of the greatest things to ever be printed in a skateboarding magazine.
http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/WeTigers19118/?action=view¤t=ScannedImage-30.jpg (http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/WeTigers19118/?action=view¤t=ScannedImage-30.jpg)
You can get to the other parts of the article by clicking around.
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they fooled my young mind into thinking Todd Falcon was a serious member of the skateboard community
hold on just a minute, since when is todd falcon NOT serious.
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Oh he's serious alright. And I'd love to see a Later'd episode on him. O'dell?
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Oh he's serious alright. And I'd love to see a Later'd episode on him. O'dell?
would be...so awesome.
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wait, wasn't he the saber master?
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Can you really remake Big Brother? I mean, the first few issues were crazy, but towards the end, you could tell that they were 'reaching'. And I mean, reaching far. I don't think you can imitate such a ground breaking idea. I think every body just reads VICE now instead. Vice sucks by the way.
I don't think so. It's true that the earlier issues were more fucked up, but the later ones were still very good. This article is from the last issue they put out, and it's one of the greatest things to ever be printed in a skateboarding magazine.
http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/WeTigers19118/?action=view¤t=ScannedImage-30.jpg (http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/WeTigers19118/?action=view¤t=ScannedImage-30.jpg)
You can get to the other parts of the article by clicking around.
Thank you, WeTigers!
God, I thought that article was so great. I even left a message on the BB message board back when it folded to tell Carnie that I was bummed because I wanted to read the rest of the speed annals.
I also thought BB was still good at the end, but from the sounds of things on this board, we must be in pretty exclusive company.
I just got done reading an old issue with a Jason Ellis interview, and it was pretty good.
Thanks for putting that up!
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won't work, i'm pretty sure all skate mags are struggling now but they aren't going to get ads, photo's or interviews.
bring back phat.
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get rid of transworld and bring Big brother and Strength back.
wait...keep Transworld - they make alright vids.
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My expectations are high if Big Brother comes back.
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Big brother was amazing to the end, I just appreciated it less. Watching The Man Who Souled The World the other day I yearned for its return. Skateboarding needs some raw in your face shit again. Every magazine out now whore themselves to the rest of the industry. They positively review every video, and tell you about how cool the dudes they are on tour with are. Shit talking and harsh reality are missing from skateboard mags.
To whoever mentioned Vice, at first I thought it was like Big Brother but without skateboarding, hell, they even have Nieratko* on staff. But then I realized, Vice is just hipster garbage. All they do is try to put other shit down and act like their own shit doesn't stink- despite being a bible to the most pathetically lame social.... social... I don't even know what to call hipsters- they are just a bunch of kids who never emotionally graduated high school. If it weren't for the fact that his show is better I would probably despise Patrick O'Dell more than Sheckler.
But yeah, give me blunt articles about your personal drug abuse, interviews with monkeys that skateboard, an article warning me about the dangers of nairing your asshole (apparently it burns when you put it in, and itches when your asshair grows back), ads that have the purpose of devirgining 16 year old kids, and the characters who never would have been part of the skate lexicon if it weren't for big brother. Vice may go over some of that shit, but it just ain't the same, and is probably poorly written by some asshole photo-blogger. Even when the days of nudity and the bong olympics are over, Big Brother still had the best shit in it.
In the end I'm pretty sure they went out because they talked shit and lost a lot of advertisers and potential interviews/tours. I think the magazines in skateboarding are too big of pussies. If companies put out shit, which they do, call them out on it! If the other mags had a tenth of the balls bb did then they would still be in business, and skating would be a lot cooler.
That, and I got a subscription right before they folded. I only got one issue and no refund, those assholes owe me 12 issues!
*Despite my hate for Vice, I still love the writing of Chris Nieratko.
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i found the skating got shittier though...when it first dropped it had all the main world guys...by the end it was like another interview w. dan haney or something....
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Bring back Russell Bongard.
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i found the skating got shittier though...when it first dropped it had all the main world guys...by the end it was like another interview w. dan haney or something....
Certainly true, but the editorial was always so on point.
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jeff tremaine bought the name back from flynt a few months back.
carnie, clyde, nieratko, and tremaine will be on it.
it's happening now.
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jeff tremaine bought the name back from flynt a few months back.
carnie, clyde, nieratko, and tremaine will be on it.
it's happening now.
That would be so tight. I loved it till the bitter end and still have most of the mags. They have my subscription.
On a sidenote, back in the day I emailed them a few times, just commenting on something. No questions, nothing that would require a reply. Nevertheless, Carnie emailed me back both times within a few days. I thought that was awesome.
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If I remeber correctly even Girl/Chocolate didn't advertise in Big Brother. Why?
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won't work, i'm pretty sure all skate mags are struggling now but they aren't going to get ads, photo's or interviews.
bring back phat.
i knew we would agree on something, sometime! Phat was amazing and pre-empted BB on a lot of the boarderline content by a year or two. not to mention a national ban. would never come back though, all the key players are over it, or dead.
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Carnie responded to every e-mail I ever sent him. I had all of them but the first issue and the corky one. I left them in The Woodlands in September 2006 next to the dumpster behind Krogers off of Research.
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If I remeber correctly even Girl/Chocolate didn't advertise in Big Brother. Why?
Because the Girl/Chocolate guys left World cause they weren't feeling Rocco's direction and wanted to do their own thing. Which is why Sal Rocco created Bitch Skateboards, a direct blow towards Girl.
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if memory serves they only advertised in the first supereurotour issue.
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What I find ironic is that when I ordered the Rocco Documentary, it came with a free full year subscription for Transworld! Transworld was the main reasonBig Brother was created! Isn't it ironic? Don't you think?
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Highly doubtfull that it's coming back. If it is, good luck. People are so P.c. that it would instantly be classified as porn. But then, on the other hand, it's really IRONIC to offend people.
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jeff tremaine bought the name back from flynt a few months back.
carnie, clyde, nieratko, and tremaine will be on it.
it's happening now.
Vouch. This is true.
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what about the Future magazine. wasn't it supposed to be BigBrother without the skating.... anyway, hope they can pull it off.
http://thefuturemagazine.com/new_home.html (http://thefuturemagazine.com/new_home.html)
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dude i cant even express in words how hapy id be if this happened
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Why would Tremaine bust his ass again every month to make a magazine when he's making shitloads of money as a Hollywood bigshot? I spoke to Carnie and he told me Tremaine doesnt have to worry about working in a while. So maybe he's just doing it for the fun of it, or even as an investment.
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big brother did nothing but lose money though.
i loved it but the only reason it worked as a skate magazine before was because world put all their riders in there, whose going to do that this time?
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Bring back Russell Bongard.
Bring back Mike Hawk adds.
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big brother did nothing but lose money though.
i loved it but the only reason it worked as a skate magazine before was because world put all their riders in there, whose going to do that this time?
Yeah, I messaged Nieratko on My Space about the possibility of BB coming back. He responded and that said Tremaine did buy the rights back, but that it was to start a website with MTV, JAW.com( jackass world.com), that will have old articles as well as new BB content. But he said unfortunately it wont ever be a mag again, just online because magazines aren't lucrative and the skate industy wont support it. If it had it wouldn't have gone away to begin with.
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Big brother was amazing to the end, I just appreciated it less. Watching The Man Who Souled The World the other day I yearned for its return. Skateboarding needs some raw in your face shit again. Every magazine out now whore themselves to the rest of the industry. They positively review every video, and tell you about how cool the dudes they are on tour with are. Shit talking and harsh reality are missing from skateboard mags.
To whoever mentioned Vice, at first I thought it was like Big Brother but without skateboarding, hell, they even have Nieratko* on staff. But then I realized, Vice is just hipster garbage. All they do is try to put other shit down and act like their own shit doesn't stink- despite being a bible to the most pathetically lame social.... social... I don't even know what to call hipsters- they are just a bunch of kids who never emotionally graduated high school. If it weren't for the fact that his show is better I would probably despise Patrick O'Dell more than Sheckler.
But yeah, give me blunt articles about your personal drug abuse, interviews with monkeys that skateboard, an article warning me about the dangers of nairing your asshole (apparently it burns when you put it in, and itches when your asshair grows back), ads that have the purpose of devirgining 16 year old kids, and the characters who never would have been part of the skate lexicon if it weren't for big brother. Vice may go over some of that shit, but it just ain't the same, and is probably poorly written by some asshole photo-blogger. Even when the days of nudity and the bong olympics are over, Big Brother still had the best shit in it.
In the end I'm pretty sure they went out because they talked shit and lost a lot of advertisers and potential interviews/tours. I think the magazines in skateboarding are too big of pussies. If companies put out shit, which they do, call them out on it! If the other mags had a tenth of the balls bb did then they would still be in business, and skating would be a lot cooler.
That, and I got a subscription right before they folded. I only got one issue and no refund, those assholes owe me 12 issues!
*Despite my hate for Vice, I still love the writing of Chris Nieratko.
so true magazines today are so afraid to offend anybody... transworld is way too politically correct.....
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Every company re-launch or comeback in skateboarding has been wack thus far. They're always too contrived and planned out and end up coming off like they're trying to hard and end up fake as hell. Why would be Big Brother be any different?
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contrived
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True, but the kids seem to like it: Black Label, Creature, Zero, Element; and re-launched for the skate market: Nike and Quicksilver.
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Big brother was amazing to the end, I just appreciated it less. Watching The Man Who Souled The World the other day I yearned for its return. Skateboarding needs some raw in your face shit again. Every magazine out now whore themselves to the rest of the industry. They positively review every video, and tell you about how cool the dudes they are on tour with are. Shit talking and harsh reality are missing from skateboard mags.
To whoever mentioned Vice, at first I thought it was like Big Brother but without skateboarding, hell, they even have Nieratko* on staff. But then I realized, Vice is just hipster garbage. All they do is try to put other shit down and act like their own shit doesn't stink- despite being a bible to the most pathetically lame social.... social... I don't even know what to call hipsters- they are just a bunch of kids who never emotionally graduated high school. If it weren't for the fact that his show is better I would probably despise Patrick O'Dell more than Sheckler.
But yeah, give me blunt articles about your personal drug abuse, interviews with monkeys that skateboard, an article warning me about the dangers of nairing your asshole (apparently it burns when you put it in, and itches when your asshair grows back), ads that have the purpose of devirgining 16 year old kids, and the characters who never would have been part of the skate lexicon if it weren't for big brother. Vice may go over some of that shit, but it just ain't the same, and is probably poorly written by some asshole photo-blogger. Even when the days of nudity and the bong olympics are over, Big Brother still had the best shit in it.
In the end I'm pretty sure they went out because they talked shit and lost a lot of advertisers and potential interviews/tours. I think the magazines in skateboarding are too big of pussies. If companies put out shit, which they do, call them out on it! If the other mags had a tenth of the balls bb did then they would still be in business, and skating would be a lot cooler.
That, and I got a subscription right before they folded. I only got one issue and no refund, those assholes owe me 12 issues!
*Despite my hate for Vice, I still love the writing of Chris Nieratko.
so true magazines today are so afraid to offend anybody... transworld is way too politically correct.....
Yeah Transworld is teeny bopper bullshit. I haven't bought a Mag since Big Brother got the axe. Hopefully we'll be able to buy back issues once JAW.com comes out.
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so true magazines today are so afraid to offend anybody... transworld is way too politically correct.....
Yeah Transworld is teeny bopper bullshit. I haven't bought a Mag since Big Brother got the axe. Hopefully we'll be able to buy back issues once JAW.com comes out.
You seriously think they have all their back issues neatly organized somewhere in a warehouse or something?
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My brother has all the early ones that were differnt sizes. They were my introduction in to skateboarding. What was the name of that guy
they made fun of all the time and got kids to prank call horribly?
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My brother has all the early ones that were differnt sizes. They were my introduction in to skateboarding. What was the name of that guy
they made fun of all the time and got kids to prank call horribly?
Earl Parker
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so true magazines today are so afraid to offend anybody... transworld is way too politically correct.....
Yeah Transworld is teeny bopper bullshit. I haven't bought a Mag since Big Brother got the axe. Hopefully we'll be able to buy back issues once JAW.com comes out.
You seriously think they have all their back issues neatly organized somewhere in a warehouse or something?
Nah fucker, wishful thinking. Half of my collection got water damaged.
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My brother has all the early ones that were differnt sizes. They were my introduction in to skateboarding. What was the name of that guy
they made fun of all the time and got kids to prank call horribly?
No.
I think he was jewish, and i remember him talking about people coming up to him in the street saying they wanted to kill him.
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i sympathize with you ,theotis. i got about two or three issues into my subscription with no more magazine, no voodoo tattoo mags, the mag got progessively worse, though.
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My brother has all the early ones that were differnt sizes. They were my introduction in to skateboarding. What was the name of that guy
they made fun of all the time and got kids to prank call horribly?
No.
I think he was jewish, and i remember him talking about people coming up to him in the street saying they wanted to kill him.
I think his name was Alex Goldberg. You would get 5 dollars or something if you'd spit in his face, or 250 if you'd crucify him.
Mike Ballard also did some mean prank calls in Big Brother, BTW
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My brother has all the early ones that were differnt sizes. They were my introduction in to skateboarding. What was the name of that guy
they made fun of all the time and got kids to prank call horribly?
No.
I think he was jewish, and i remember him talking about people coming up to him in the street saying they wanted to kill him.
I think his name was Alex Goldberg. You would get 5 dollars or something if you'd spit in his face, or 250 if you'd crucify him.
Mike Ballard also did some mean prank calls in Big Brother, BTW
Yes, thank you. that kid was so unhappy
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Big Brother back out would be sick.
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I remember Todd Falcon saying how he was trying to get on birdhouse. Has anyone tried youtubing his shit before, he hypes himself so hard. He's got "Team Falcon." Too many jokes http://youtube.com/watch?v=di1aaIYmlxc&feature=related
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My brother has all the early ones that were differnt sizes. They were my introduction in to skateboarding. What was the name of that guy
they made fun of all the time and got kids to prank call horribly?
No.
I think he was jewish, and i remember him talking about people coming up to him in the street saying they wanted to kill him.
alex goldberg. super jew.
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I remember Todd Falcon saying how he was trying to get on birdhouse. Has anyone tried youtubing his shit before, he hypes himself so hard. He's got "Team Falcon." Too many jokes http://youtube.com/watch?v=di1aaIYmlxc&feature=related
holy fuck. that is the sickest thing i have ever seen! so sick ;D
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I remember Todd Falcon saying how he was trying to get on birdhouse. Has anyone tried youtubing his shit before, he hypes himself so hard. He's got "Team Falcon." Too many jokes http://youtube.com/watch?v=di1aaIYmlxc&feature=related
Holy moly... Somebody link this shit. O'dell where you at? Would seriously make the most interesting Later'd episode ever. I'd like to hear him tell about his BB interview or about run-ins he's had with other pros.
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I too had a subscription right before it went tits-up. One T-shirt, one magazine and then nothing. I was hoping they might provide me with one of the other titles in Flynt's collection, but alas it was not to be.
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a legitimate big brother comeback would be too good to be true. I remember that anti-X-games article they did called "fuck those dudes", which was so hilarious, even though everyone was doing anti-X-games articles. Also, just got back my copy of the Shit video from someone who borrowed it for over a year. Awesome skating, mostly fun to watch, but you could see the unsavory roots of Jackass forming.
I had a subscription to Spin that ended with no refund back when bob guccione jr (son of penthouse publisher) ran it. What is it with porn money, you'd think it'd be pretty stable.
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I too had a subscription right before it went tits-up. One T-shirt, one magazine and then nothing. I was hoping they might provide me with one of the other titles in Flynt's collection, but alas it was not to be.
Dude you shouldnt complain because one issue of Big Brother and a Big Brother T-shirt is better than a whole year of Transworld and Thrasher combined.
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i cant beleive u guyz liked BB, that magazine was the worst. all they talk about is poop and drugs, the sk8n wasnt that great and the articles wernt funny
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And the update from today's NY Times of all places...
December 13, 2007
A Chapter of ‘Jackass’ as Web Test
By DAVID M. HALBFINGER
LOS ANGELES — Paramount Pictures is lurching onto the Web with its “Jackass” franchise, with what it says will be the first studio-backed feature film to have its premiere online. And the studio hopes the result will be considerably more pleasurable than the old MTV show’s trademark shot to the groin — perhaps by paving the way for more profit-making Web-only material.
On Dec. 19, the studio will make “Jackass 2.5” available in connection with Blockbuster’s Movielink service. The hour-plus film has original material and previously unseen outtakes from the second “Jackass” movie in 2006. The new movie, made for less than $2 million, will stream for free but will have 15- or 30-second commercials before and after it plays.
At the same time, the studio’s fellow subsidiary of Viacom, MTV Networks, and the creators of the “Jackass” franchise are using the new film to attract traffic to <a href="http://www.jackassworld.com">jackassworld.com</a>, now under construction.
The site is billed as an online community offering blogs, original video content and an archive of the 24 episodes of “Jackass,” which ran on MTV in 2000 and 2001, as well as its longer-running spinoff “Wildboyz.”
Other studios have distributed Web-only short films (as Fox Searchlight did to promote “The Darjeeling Limited”) or teaser segments of their theatrical movies as part of promotional campaigns (as Sony did last weekend with “Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story”). But Viacom executives emphasized that this was a stand-alone venture that would pay for itself.
They described the online premiere as an experiment aimed at gauging the potential revenue streams for studio-produced, longer-form Web material that could take advantage of the consumer appetite for user-generated content.
“If this works, it could open up and really change the game about additional content that studios can create,” said Thomas Lesinski, president of Paramount Pictures Digital Entertainment. Then again, Paramount executives acknowledged it might not be the fairest test of long-form films, given that the movie, like the TV show, is made up of many short segments, consumable in morsels.
It’s also hardly a big-budget test: Most of “Jackass 2.5” was shot for “Jackass: Number Two,” which took in $73 million at domestic theaters last year. (The first “Jackass,” from 2002, made $64 million at the box office.)
The new material includes opening and closing sequences and documentary-style interviews, mainly about what did not work, said Jeff Tremaine, director of the franchise’s movies. The movie is unrated, and both the complete version and its racier segments, when sold online, will be “age-gated,” with age-verification technology ensuring that consumers are 17 or older. (These methods, however, can be easily subverted.)
“There’s more vomiting, nudity and defecation,” one executive said, speaking more candidly than the companies involved had agreed to and on condition of anonymity. “The stuff that consumers really want.”
Among the movie’s new bits, executives said, are “Human Golf Tee,” in which Johnny Knoxville invites a driving-range patron to hit one off a tee on Bam Margera’s crotch, and Mr. Margera firing a bazooka round in his family’s own kitchen.
The production cost, executives said, is being recouped by a license-fee guarantee, in the low seven figures, that Blockbuster agreed to pay for a one-week exclusive.
On Dec. 26, the movie will be available on download-to-own retail sites like iTunes and Amazon.com, for $10 to $15, and a DVD — including 45 minutes of extras — will also go on sale, for $30.
Beginning Jan. 1, advertising-supported streaming sites like Joost will let viewers watch the movie, or selected bits, for free. And in February the movie will be offered through cable and satellite TV video-on-demand services. Paramount will keep 70 percent of online sales proceeds, executives said.
“We’re trying to assess here not only the potential for a broadband movie online, but also the different ways to distribute,” Mr. Lesinski said. “Within 30 days we’ll have a very good idea where the consumption is coming from.”
Keith Morrow, Blockbuster’s chief information officer, said he viewed the license fee as an investment in building awareness for the Movielink service, which Blockbuster bought from Hollywood studios (including Paramount) in August.
Mr. Tremaine said the “Jackass” creative team had retained ownership of Internet rights as part of a failed effort to exploit the dot-com boom a decade ago. He said he was more excited about jackassworld.com than the new movie, in part because it had allowed the team to go back to its origins as an outgrowth of the skateboarding magazine Big Brother, no longer published.
The community aspects of the site, however, will not let users share homemade videos of their own stunts, despite “Jackass” having spawned a limitless supply of online imitators.
“It’s always been our position that somebody should not do that at home,” said David Gale, a new-media executive at MTV Networks.
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I remember Todd Falcon saying how he was trying to get on birdhouse. Has anyone tried youtubing his shit before, he hypes himself so hard. He's got "Team Falcon." Too many jokes http://youtube.com/watch?v=di1aaIYmlxc&feature=related
Holy moly... Somebody link this shit. O'dell where you at? Would seriously make the most interesting Later'd episode ever. I'd like to hear him tell about his BB interview or about run-ins he's had with other pros.
troof. o'dell, put all other episodes on hold until we can see: "in the shadow of a hawk-the todd falcon story" on epicly later'd.
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all right,bb was the poo poo but that was it ,it was perfect for the time it had its run,but how the hell can you re-fire up some shit that had its hay day and developed into other projects
....yes carnivore is the man,but skateboarding is about progression.....hopefully it will be a new project under a new guise not some shit that was funny years ago......big ups to the old staff there
and i have faith that they are smarter than riding their own coat tails from yester year......leave good things where they belong......if we brought back all our dead homies...we would have a zombie problem
thats why we leave them dead
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posted on 48 Blocks today:
"Forshadowing
Forshadowing upcoming projects is gonna be one of my new things for '08 in this column. Here is a public service announcement from Salman Agah. I also got an email from my old buddy Pat Canale on Friday. Hmmmmnnn."
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posted on 48 Blocks today:
"Forshadowing
Forshadowing upcoming projects is gonna be one of my new things for '08 in this column. Here is a public service announcement from Salman Agah. I also got an email from my old buddy Pat Canale on Friday. Hmmmmnnn."
dude, your penis monster avatar, fix it, quick.
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get rid of transworld and bring Big brother and Strength back.
i just found a philly issue of strength i had from 2000 a few days ago and ive been rereading it at work everyday since
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big brother was before my time, ive still never seen one...why did they stop making them?
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After monthly sales dropped a tiny bit Larry Flynt gave little notice decided to pull the plug. They didn't even get to print a "final" issue.
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Larry Flynt is a rotten son of a bitch. Read 'Prisoner of X' by Allan MacDonald.