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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: heckler on June 17, 2010, 09:42:09 AM
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According to Pat's facebook, the first episode in the Antwuan later'ds (I assume) airs tonight.
Edit: I was wrong, it's a Lizard King episode.
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Should be a funny episode
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That would be dope if the last episode is taped when he went to the Maloof Money Cup and then the Transworld Awards. Would be a nice way to end it with his speech when he won readers choice.
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this shit's gonna have some passion. Lizard will def keep this shit classy. passion
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its probably this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji6AnIZg-oo
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its probably this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji6AnIZg-oo
hopefully not... that seems pretty old, at the end it says 2008 and braydon has no bat on his face.
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ugh i hate lizard king as a skater and a person.
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I'm not a big fan of many piles of shit, but I'm a fan of this pile of shit. I'll be watching....
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Lizard King is proof that insane people get big breaks too.
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can someone please explain this Dyet vs Lizard King thing? or will i have to wait for the episode
cause Adam Dyet getting Lizard Suxs tattoo'd on him is really fucked.
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Adam Dyet is a wiener.
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can someone please explain this Dyet vs Lizard King thing? or will i have to wait for the episode
cause Adam Dyet getting Lizard Suxs tattoo'd on him is really fucked.
Weren't they like BFFFFFFF's?
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its probably this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji6AnIZg-oo
hopefully not... that seems pretty old, at the end it says 2008 and braydon has no bat on his face.
That was from the bonus footage on the season 1 dvd.
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can someone please explain this Dyet vs Lizard King thing? or will i have to wait for the episode
cause Adam Dyet getting Lizard Suxs tattoo'd on him is really fucked.
I can explain it Adam Dyet sucks really fuckin hard, he has a shit style, skates for the worst companies, and no one gives a fuck about him, and then theres Lizard King who is pretty rad
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who the fuck is adam dyet
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just checked vbs...said it airs tomorrow, Friday
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ugh i hate lizard king as a skater and a person.
He is an annoying personality in skateboarding.
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who the fuck is adam dyet
lame contest skater
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LIZARD IS LIKE THE 2010 GRECO !!!!!!
SWEAR TO GOD.
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lizard king is a really shitty human
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lizard king is a really shitty human
At first glance I thought you called him a really shitty batman.
I like it better that way.
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i think i understand some how.
so they were both on think.
Dyet sold out and ditched Lizard King and said fuck you, you suck, blah blah. went to darkstar.
Then Lizard King went to skate for Reynolds.
And now Dyet is like wtf why is everyone hating me and loving him, just jealous. while lizard is saying fuck you to him.
do i got it?
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Ive gone form hating this guy, to being down for him to hating him again...
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Lizard King would be a fine Batman. Gotham would adjust.
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LIZARD IS LIKE THE 2010 GRECO !!!!!!
SWEAR TO GOD.
this is funny
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daniel lutheran is a better lizard king in my opinion.
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daniel lutheran is a better lizard king in my opinion.
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its probably this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji6AnIZg-oo
Clips like this make Leo's departure seem like a no-brainer.
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Lizard King would be a fine Batman. Gotham would adjust.
surely you jest.
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i doubt him and adam dyet have any beef. they're both from utah and making it big in skating. they're probably just happy enough to have sponsors that allow them to make a living off of skating.
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daniel lutheran is a better lizard king in my opinion.
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lizard king is so fucking gay.
i would kill my self if i were named after jim morrison.
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Ah James is not bad, though Douglas is kind of a shunned uncle's name.
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IT'S UP!
Can't wait to see part 2 and 3. I'm going to Australia tomorrow for like maybe a year or two and no internet n shit
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I skated with Lizard King at the Venice park and hes a real cool dude, so all the haters can shut the fuck up.
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Did he write "Satan' on you?
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That was pretty boring, if it wasn't for all the skate footage that would have been a complete waste of 6+ minutes.
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It's not really cool to give out a super hero's secret identity. That could place his friends and loved ones in danger. He's out there risking his ass to make the city a better place. The modes should delete this thread.
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so is greco officially back on drugs?
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so is greco officially back on drugs?
???
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IT'S UP!
Can't wait to see part 2 and 3. I'm going to Australia tomorrow for like maybe a year or two and no internet n shit
they don't have internet in Australia?
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IT'S UP!
Can't wait to see part 2 and 3. I'm going to Australia tomorrow for like maybe a year or two and no internet n shit
they don't have internet in Australia?
No, you can't plug a router into a freaking Didgeridoo, turkey.
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So fucking shit housed fuck. Satan. fuck.
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I skated with Lizard King at the Venice park and hes a real cool dude, so all the haters can shut the fuck up.
ok
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He didn't even touch on when he was on Think. I wonder what they are going to talk about in the next couple of episodes since Epicly Later'd always kind of recaps on a skaters past career to get where they are today.
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I think he appeals mainly to the younger dudes. I mean, does anyone over 30 like him?
I keep hearing about how "passion", Shake Junt, and G-Code are annoying trends, but I only ever see little kids at the skate park running that shit. And I don't really skate with them, so it's not really an issue.
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i like grecos new look
sue
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IT'S UP!
Can't wait to see part 2 and 3. I'm going to Australia tomorrow for like maybe a year or two and no internet n shit
they don't have internet in Australia?
This is true. Everytime I want to contribute to a thread I write the post in a letter and send it to my dad in the US for him to type up.
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You've got one committed Pops there! Does he give you advice on what moves to make in flame wars?
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Does he send you all the posts in every thread so you know what to say in reply?
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I think he appeals mainly to the younger dudes. I mean, does anyone over 30 like him?
I keep hearing about how "passion", Shake Junt, and G-Code are annoying trends, but I only ever see little kids at the skate park running that shit. And I don't really skate with them, so it's not really an issue.
I don't think you'd need a fucking survey to come to the conclusion that the amount of skateboarding enthusiasts over 30 is vastly disproportionate to the sea of 16 year old kids who buy Baker shit.
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its probably this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji6AnIZg-oo
Clips like this make Leo's departure seem like a no-brainer.
I would say their well rounded skating clips and personalities made Leo seem like a no-name. He would too. He did in an interview.
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IT'S UP!
Can't wait to see part 2 and 3. I'm going to Australia tomorrow for like maybe a year or two and no internet n shit
they don't have internet in Australia?
This is true. Everytime I want to contribute to a thread I write the post in a letter and send it to my dad in the US for him to type up.
haha , i guess they have some of that internetz but im prolly going to work in a farm so yea, basically no internet :D
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haha mike plumb
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they completely skipped over the whole think debacle which was pretty huge, and the hellrose crew scene. is pat not trying to hurt thinks feelings with that or is there some other reason they didn't go into that?
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I skated with Lizard King at the Venice park and hes a real cool dude, so all the haters can shut the fuck up.
and by that you really mean "Lizard King was skating the park I always go to, and I was there at the same time as him. So that means we were skating together."
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It's not hard to skate with a pro. It's just like skating with anyone else. You're both hitting an obstacle, bullshitting in between runs. Isn't that what "skating with someone" is? Why is that so hard to imagine?
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I think he appeals mainly to the younger dudes. I mean, does anyone over 30 like him?
I keep hearing about how "passion", Shake Junt, and G-Code are annoying trends, but I only ever see little kids at the skate park running that shit. And I don't really skate with them, so it's not really an issue.
I don't think you'd need a fucking survey to come to the conclusion that the amount of skateboarding enthusiasts over 30 is vastly disproportionate to the sea of 16 year old kids who buy Baker shit.
Thanks for close-captioning my post. Maybe we can form a rap group like RUN-DMC and you can finish my sentences for a living?
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I skated with Lizard King at the Venice park and hes a real cool dude, so all the haters can shut the fuck up.
and by that you really mean "Lizard King was skating the park I always go to, and I was there at the same time as him. So that means we were skating together."
What are you trying to say?
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they completely skipped over the whole think debacle which was pretty huge, and the hellrose crew scene. is pat not trying to hurt thinks feelings with that or is there some other reason they didn't go into that?
What was the whole Think debacle?
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Part 2 is up.....
http://www.vbs.tv/watch/epicly-later-d-season-two/lizard-king-part-2-of-3
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He did the mega after an all-nighter!! Fucking nutter... all hail the Lizard!!!
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yeah lizards' a king
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hahaha
fuck yes!
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liking this drug addicted, annoying dummkopf is beyond me
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dude is living the dream and isnt hiding the truth about anything..im backing him and his insane manner of skating fully
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as much as i think coke and E are lame, i respect the fact that he is open about using them, and doesnt let them consume his life. the kids around here could learn a thing or two from him.
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yeah you guys are right, he is an excellent role model
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All those random tattoos...doubt he would end up like Antwuan, though.
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All those random tattoos...doubt he would end up like Antwuan, though.
his tattoos are words. they won't create a nice mosaic like antwuan's do.
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yeah you guys are right, he is an excellent role model
hahaha
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Terrible role model, but I still back him. That mega story was rad. Not everybody can be Andy Mac
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i hate him because he is glorifying his drug use. or atleast the whole shake junt camp is. in that tour video you see dollin snorting and then they all are barking like dogs. if he/they weren't putting it out there as if it's funny I wouldn't think much of him doing drugs.
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he is not a role model. he's not paid to be a role model. he's paid to wreak havoc on his skateboard. parents should be role models. just because he rides a skateboard doesn't mean he should raise your kids.
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i hate him because he is glorifying his drug use. or atleast the whole shake junt camp is. in that tour video you see dollin snorting and then they all are barking like dogs. if he/they weren't putting it out there as if it's funny I wouldn't think much of him doing drugs.
I don't think they are glorify it at all, they are showing how things really go down. People need to make up their own minds, if by now you don't know that doing drugs is fucked then you are living under a rock. Some people temp fate and live and others end up dead.
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he is not a role model. he's not paid to be a role model. he's paid to wreak havoc on his skateboard. parents should be role models. just because he rides a skateboard doesn't mean he should raise your kids.
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i hate him because he is glorifying his drug use. or atleast the whole shake junt camp is. in that tour video you see dollin snorting and then they all are barking like dogs. if he/they weren't putting it out there as if it's funny I wouldn't think much of him doing drugs.
I don't think they are glorify it at all, they are showing how things really go down. People need to make up their own minds, if by now you don't know that doing drugs is fucked then you are living under a rock. Some people temp fate and live and others end up dead.
Quoted for realness yo.
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he is not a role model. he's not paid to be a role model. he's paid to wreak havoc on his skateboard. parents should be role models. just because he rides a skateboard doesn't mean he should raise your kids.
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these episodes are awkward
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these episodes are awkward
considering i dont like the dude i think i like the episodes cause he doesnt seem so annoying in them to me...
nah i lied
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he is not a role model. he's not paid to be a role model. he's paid to wreak havoc on his skateboard. parents should be role models. just because he rides a skateboard doesn't mean he should raise your kids.
New sig,
Couldnt have said it better, id gnar you if i could.
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he is not a role model. he's not paid to be a role model. he's paid to wreak havoc on his skateboard. parents should be role models. just because he rides a skateboard doesn't mean he should raise your kids.
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i hate him because he is glorifying his drug use. or atleast the whole shake junt camp is. in that tour video you see dollin snorting and then they all are barking like dogs. if he/they weren't putting it out there as if it's funny I wouldn't think much of him doing drugs.
I don't think they are glorify it at all, they are showing how things really go down. People need to make up their own minds, if by now you don't know that doing drugs is fucked then you are living under a rock. Some people temp fate and live and others end up dead.
Quoted for realness yo.
Yup.
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Holy shit that dude laughs a lot. I like that.
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waiting for him to get a mans name tattooed on his ass after an all-nighter.
that said, this episode was really crazy
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(http://i48.tinypic.com/2eas80n.jpg)
I saw this and figured I would put it in this thread. That is all.
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(http://i48.tinypic.com/2eas80n.jpg)
I saw this and figured I would put it in this thread. That is all.
He so crayzeee.
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he is not a role model. he's not paid to be a role model. he's paid to wreak havoc on his skateboard. parents should be role models. just because he rides a skateboard doesn't mean he should raise your kids.
This is fact. Another fact is that 60% of parents are idiots.
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Passion. Passion. Green room. Coke. Extacy. Dyet is a jock
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they should redo this commercial with skateboarders
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMzdAZ3TjCA
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VBS is blocked at my work but there is the 3rd installment of Lizards Later'd:
http://www.radcollector.com/news/2010/07/01/epicly-lizard-pt-3/ (http://www.radcollector.com/news/2010/07/01/epicly-lizard-pt-3/)
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these are fairly entertaining for what they are.
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he is not a role model. he's not paid to be a role model. he's paid to wreak havoc on his skateboard. parents should be role models. just because he rides a skateboard doesn't mean he should raise your kids.
pretty much the same thing charles barkley said years back and i fully agree. as a parent you need to be involved enough to know what's up with your kids hobby's and interests.
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"So when you finally go sober you get to skate the sobriety cruiser board?" ;D
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http://www.vbs.tv/watch/epicly-later-d-season-two/lizard-king-part-3-of-3
part 3 is pretty funny.
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hey dumb ass, look back four posts.
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"I like being a pile of shit."
By the way, Shane Heyl is clean?
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Obviously. You can see it in his skating.
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pretty much the same thing charles barkley said years back and i fully agree. as a parent you need to be involved enough to know what's up with your kids hobby's and interests.
Of course the parents should be more involved, but many aren't. I'm not saying Lizard, Dollin, Antwan, etc... should be doing anything different, but don't act like these guys aren't role models for a lot of young kids. They have a TON of influence. Hell they have a lot of influence even if the parents ARE paying attention.
he is not a role model. he's not paid to be a role model. he's paid to wreak havoc on his skateboard. parents should be role models. just because he rides a skateboard doesn't mean he should raise your kids.
He's also paid for his image. I'm not disagreeing with you, but you guys are all acting like they have no influence and play no part in steering kids towards drugs and alcahol. They definitely make it all look fun and they ARE role models.... Like it or not.
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"I like being a pile of shit."
By the way, Shane Heyl is clean?
I was surprised too to read that in a mag talking about Shake Junt. He has been clean for a couple of years now, so all that shit you see in the vids are just the way he normally acts.
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Was I the only person who thought these Lizard King episodes were the most pointless episodes he's ever done? Guess Patrick's just really super broke...
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I felt the comments about jim and vice versa were awkward as well. Did anyone think that was strange. I kept thinking about him saying "yeah, they tell me i would be better at skating...." I think this is true but he seriously kills it on a board. Like I dunno, and i feel like EE still parties just not as much, like I dunno, did anyone feel this was weird.
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I felt the comments about jim and vice versa were awkward as well. Did anyone think that was strange. I kept thinking about him saying "yeah, they tell me i would be better at skating...." I think this is true but he seriously kills it on a board. Like I dunno, and i feel like EE still parties just not as much, like I dunno, did anyone feel this was weird.
i found it awkward when he said "he says he's going to pray for me"... is jim greco now a god botherer?
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pretty much the same thing charles barkley said years back and i fully agree. as a parent you need to be involved enough to know what's up with your kids hobby's and interests.
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he is not a role model. he's not paid to be a role model. he's paid to wreak havoc on his skateboard. parents should be role models. just because he rides a skateboard doesn't mean he should raise your kids.
he is getting paid for his image but i think that has more to do with kids liking drugs and alcohol because they're fun (for a while) and that's what they're into and not that kids only like these things because people like lizard say they're cool. i really don't know how much footage of dude's partying effects kids but maybe i'm underestimating. in my experience your friends and the people around you play a way bigger role in if you get into that shit. there's probably some people who try booze because they saw reynolds drinking in a baker video or whatever but i guarantee their are way more who start because they know a dude who got them into it, they tried it and they liked it. it just seems like common sense that kids drink/do drugs because of their effects and not to pose as their favorite pro. drugs and alcohol don't really need too much positive advertisement- they do exactly what you want them to do, namely get you fucked up. now being aware of the consequences of those decisions and acting accordingly is an entirely different story--that's where parents and even more so friends come in.
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I felt the comments about jim and vice versa were awkward as well. Did anyone think that was strange. I kept thinking about him saying "yeah, they tell me i would be better at skating...." I think this is true but he seriously kills it on a board. Like I dunno, and i feel like EE still parties just not as much, like I dunno, did anyone feel this was weird.
i found it awkward when he said "he says he's going to pray for me"... is jim greco now a god bother-er?
i think he's always been maybe a little, hasn't he worn that cross around his neck forever? I know tons of people wear that shit and dont care about religion whatsoever, but for some reason when jim said that i just accepted it like something clicked in my brain and it all made sense. I just really like baker/deathwish, i find all of that shit so entertaining.
Also the third episode made me feel like there's a lot of diversity between all of those dudes and its crazy because it almost felt like there was animosity between lizard and jim or andrew or something, but then again lizard is super popular and people will buy into his image so i see why he rides for them. I dunno it just felt so different then EE being super stoked on him getting that deathwish tattoo before it was even a company.
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that's not a cross around his neck, it's a necklace with a 'T' on it
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pretty much the same thing charles barkley said years back and i fully agree. as a parent you need to be involved enough to know what's up with your kids hobby's and interests.
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he is not a role model. he's not paid to be a role model. he's paid to wreak havoc on his skateboard. parents should be role models. just because he rides a skateboard doesn't mean he should raise your kids.
so do you think that these guys shouldn't be able to enjoy their sucess how they want to because there are shitty parents in the world? they don't give a shit about random kids they don't know and as a parent i don't think it's their responsiblity to. it's the same thing that happens in music, movies, etc... kids are going to get exsposed to these kinds of things and these guys work hard and in my opinion deserver to enjoy (and possibly throw away) their sucess how ever they see fit.
just look at greco, how much tighter was he when he was a pile? and there's a shitload of band examples. clean up and start sucking. hosoi was tighter when he was strung out. list goes on and on.
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pretty much the same thing charles barkley said years back and i fully agree. as a parent you need to be involved enough to know what's up with your kids hobby's and interests.
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he is not a role model. he's not paid to be a role model. he's paid to wreak havoc on his skateboard. parents should be role models. just because he rides a skateboard doesn't mean he should raise your kids.
so do you think that these guys shouldn't be able to enjoy their sucess how they want to because there are shitty parents in the world? they don't give a shit about random kids they don't know and as a parent i don't think it's their responsiblity to. it's the same thing that happens in music, movies, etc... kids are going to get exsposed to these kinds of things and these guys work hard and in my opinion deserver to enjoy (and possibly throw away) their sucess how ever they see fit.
just look at greco, how much tighter was he when he was a pile? and there's a shitload of band examples. clean up and start sucking. hosoi was tighter when he was strung out. list goes on and on.
That's pretty funny as a parent you support drug use. To each his own. Lizard King is sick, but the whole worshiping Satan thing is pretty ignorant. I had this deep conversation last night about Heaven and Hell, and Angels and Demons, and Satan with this dude who studied the Bible and religion.
Satan was created, so he ain't as powerful as God. And if you think Hell is full of sin, you're wrong, there is no sin, maybe a little, it's mostly suffering. It's in the Bible.
So if you believe in the paranormal, ghosts and demons, then you would understand that the most darkest evilest beings don't want to be in Hell, they escape and come to Earth. So even they don't want to be there.
It's like Lizard King is preaching about some shit he doesn't even have the slightest clue about. Yeah I bought the Iron Maiden cd, yeah Satan!
Why I mention it is because a shit head of skaters love the whole 666 and do it for Satan shit, and that is just a sign of lack of education. Thus as a professional you should have the common sense from street skating that kids are impressionable. So I'd definitely say that Lizard King is responsible for mis-leading a whole population of kids about the reality of Hell from his own ignorance, full circle of piles, cool.
I'd rather see Lizard King get into Shaman stuff, that would be a better fit.
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That's pretty funny as a parent you support drug use. To each his own. Lizard King is sick, but the whole worshiping Satan thing is pretty ignorant. I had this deep conversation last night about Heaven and Hell, and Angels and Demons, and Satan with this dude who studied the Bible and religion.
Satan was created, so he ain't as powerful as God. And if you think Hell is full of sin, you're wrong, there is no sin, maybe a little, it's mostly suffering. It's in the Bible.
So if you believe in the paranormal, ghosts and demons, then you would understand that the most darkest evilest beings don't want to be in Hell, they escape and come to Earth. So even they don't want to be there.
Fuckin' Dungeons and Dragons over here and shit!
The most convincing argument for religion is Pascal's Wager (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager)...color me unconvinced...
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That's pretty funny as a parent you support drug use. To each his own. Lizard King is sick, but the whole worshiping Satan thing is pretty ignorant. I had this deep conversation last night about Heaven and Hell, and Angels and Demons, and Satan with this dude who studied the Bible and religion.
Satan was created, so he ain't as powerful as God. And if you think Hell is full of sin, you're wrong, there is no sin, maybe a little, it's mostly suffering. It's in the Bible.
So if you believe in the paranormal, ghosts and demons, then you would understand that the most darkest evilest beings don't want to be in Hell, they escape and come to Earth. So even they don't want to be there.
The most convincing argument for religion is Pascal's Wager (http://"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager")...color me unconvinced...
Your link isn't working
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager
Yeah Shadow Beings walking the Earth...
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why is the bible and religion being debated i thought it was clear to most people that the bible is pretty much shit...
i have nothing against religion and respect people having beliefs but basing your life on a book full of absolute bollocks is ridiculous..
this explains it well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_EXqdJ4L7I
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Religion is fucking regular. It's always been used as a control device for people. You want to keep people in line? Keep them scared.
As far as Lizard's affinity toward Satan; he grew up in a place mostly controlled by Mormon's. Maybe he's rebelling against growing up in the shadow of such a conservative, weird, sub-sect of Christianity. Maybe he really thinks Satan exists and he's the shit but, considering his sarcastic way of hailing him, I doubt it.
Now, I'm a parent as well and I agree with Sleazy. I will be my child's example and I will explain to him (when the time is appropriate of course) about all the bad stuff he should avoid. He is welcome to appreciate the skateboarding, art, music, etc. of whoever, regardless of drug use but maybe they aren't the best humans to be emulating. I've learned to separate the art and the artist. It's easier to appreciate the artist.
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why is the bible and religion being debated i thought it was clear to most people that the bible is pretty much shit...
i have nothing against religion and respect people having beliefs but basing your life on a book full of absolute bollocks is ridiculous..
wat
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why is the bible and religion being debated i thought it was clear to most people that the bible is pretty much shit...
i have nothing against religion and respect people having beliefs but basing your life on a book full of absolute bollocks is ridiculous..
wat
contradictory i know.. what i mean is i respect people for having beliefs but i am saying the bible is shit, in this scientific day and age the bible is outdated and clearly factuous, to live by it makes no sense.
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why is the bible and religion being debated i thought it was clear to most people that the bible is pretty much shit...
i have nothing against religion and respect people having beliefs but basing your life on a book full of absolute bollocks is ridiculous..
wat
contradictory i know.. what i mean is i respect people for having beliefs but i am saying the bible is shit, in this scientific day and age the bible is outdated and clearly factuous, to live by it makes no sense.
Oh i understand what you mean for sure. I think it would be more important to acknowledge the lessons taught in the bible rather than follow it in literal terms. Basically to live by basic morals instead of trying to be a "pile of shit".
Just an opinion though..
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considering his homelife in utah vs the one in LA it feels like a well orchestrated act.
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ALRIGHT, WHOS NEXT!?
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why is the bible and religion being debated i thought it was clear to most people that the bible is pretty much shit...
i have nothing against religion and respect people having beliefs but basing your life on a book full of absolute bollocks is ridiculous..
wat
contradictory i know.. what i mean is i respect people for having beliefs but i am saying the bible is shit, in this scientific day and age the bible is outdated and clearly factuous, to live by it makes no sense.
Oh i understand what you mean for sure. I think it would be more important to acknowledge the lessons taught in the bible rather than follow it in literal terms. Basically to live by basic morals instead of trying to be a "pile of shit".
Just an opinion though..
The bible advocates slavery and homophobia. Morals come from empathy, not a book.
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pretty much the same thing charles barkley said years back and i fully agree. as a parent you need to be involved enough to know what's up with your kids hobby's and interests.
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he is not a role model. he's not paid to be a role model. he's paid to wreak havoc on his skateboard. parents should be role models. just because he rides a skateboard doesn't mean he should raise your kids.
so do you think that these guys shouldn't be able to enjoy their sucess how they want to because there are shitty parents in the world? they don't give a shit about random kids they don't know and as a parent i don't think it's their responsiblity to. it's the same thing that happens in music, movies, etc... kids are going to get exsposed to these kinds of things and these guys work hard and in my opinion deserver to enjoy (and possibly throw away) their sucess how ever they see fit.
just look at greco, how much tighter was he when he was a pile? and there's a shitload of band examples. clean up and start sucking. hosoi was tighter when he was strung out. list goes on and on.
That's pretty funny as a parent you support drug use. To each his own. Lizard King is sick, but the whole worshiping Satan thing is pretty ignorant. I had this deep conversation last night about Heaven and Hell, and Angels and Demons, and Satan with this dude who studied the Bible and religion.
Satan was created, so he ain't as powerful as God. And if you think Hell is full of sin, you're wrong, there is no sin, maybe a little, it's mostly suffering. It's in the Bible.
So if you believe in the paranormal, ghosts and demons, then you would understand that the most darkest evilest beings don't want to be in Hell, they escape and come to Earth. So even they don't want to be there.
It's like Lizard King is preaching about some shit he doesn't even have the slightest clue about. Yeah I bought the Iron Maiden cd, yeah Satan!
Why I mention it is because a shit head of skaters love the whole 666 and do it for Satan shit, and that is just a sign of lack of education. Thus as a professional you should have the common sense from street skating that kids are impressionable. So I'd definitely say that Lizard King is responsible for mis-leading a whole population of kids about the reality of Hell from his own ignorance, full circle of piles, cool.
I'd rather see Lizard King get into Shaman stuff, that would be a better fit.
How do you to take a guy known as Lizard King seriously? (Jim Morrison is a different case.) I perceive the Satan worshiping to be sarcastic and anti-religion, if anything.
Also, I don't give a fuck about the impression that Lizard King, or any other famous person, can leave on children. Parents should teach their kids what is right and what is wrong. So, there won't be a problem, if they're ever in a situation involving drugs or alcohol. I decided for myself what was right and wrong. Blaming things on people is bullshit. People should take responsibility for their own actions.
If I ever have a child, I won't ever talk about religion unless he/she asks me about it. It's total bullshit if you need to do anything other than be a good person to achieve salvation.
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I'm down with playing stairway to heaven backwards and going to haunted houses and talking about the supernatural, but seeing a bunch of grommets stenciling in satanic shit on their board and they don't even listen to Zeppelin is a bummer. He could pick something more raw than the devil, whom a lot of people think is imaginary.
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This is turning into a classic skateboard conversation. I like Lizard king, I like Baker/Deathwish, I like Shake Junt. A lot. I also agree with the points about raising your kids.
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dude is pretty gnarly i guess. those three episodes were not.
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why is the bible and religion being debated i thought it was clear to most people that the bible is pretty much shit...
i have nothing against religion and respect people having beliefs but basing your life on a book full of absolute bollocks is ridiculous..
wat
contradictory i know.. what i mean is i respect people for having beliefs but i am saying the bible is shit, in this scientific day and age the bible is outdated and clearly factuous, to live by it makes no sense.
Oh i understand what you mean for sure. I think it would be more important to acknowledge the lessons taught in the bible rather than follow it in literal terms. Basically to live by basic morals instead of trying to be a "pile of shit".
Just an opinion though..
im not saying read the bible for its morals.
im just saying IF the bible is pushed into your face as a child or some shit like that, then its important to only look to it for the morals. respect your neighbor etc.
obviously not the over the top bullshit that bible pushers take so literally.
but then again i dont know shit about religion oh well.
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personally i feel that the bible is the main problem with Christianity. i believe in higher power, and i believe that jesus was/is real, but i reject most of the bible.
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As a religious agnostic and friend of Lizard's, I will still say that the Satan stuff and substance abuse are irresponsible and pretty lame. I would tell him personally, but the guy is way too nice, and I've never had the chance since we are more acquaintances than close homeys.
This debate just proves that Lizard is a provocateur. He is smart and knows what he is doing.
As for the Bible, (I also happen to be a former Hebrew grad student) I would say that it lacks historicity and undermines many of the best modern values (equality, democracy, etc). It's hard to study it academically and continue believing in its central message - if indeed, there ever were a central message of the Bible.
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As a religious agnostic and friend of Lizard's, I will still say that the Satan stuff and substance abuse are irresponsible and pretty lame. I would tell him personally, but the guy is way too nice, and I've never had the chance since we are more acquaintances than close homeys.
This debate just proves that Lizard is a provocateur. He is smart and knows what he is doing.
As for the Bible, (I also happen to be a former Hebrew grad student) I would say that it lacks historicity and undermines many of the best modern values (equality, democracy, etc). It's hard to study it academically and continue believing in its central message - if indeed, there ever were a central message of the Bible.
you dropped something.
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As a religious agnostic and friend of Lizard's, I will still say that the Satan stuff and substance abuse are irresponsible and pretty lame. I would tell him personally, but the guy is way too nice, and I've never had the chance since we are more acquaintances than close homeys.
This debate just proves that Lizard is a provocateur. He is smart and knows what he is doing.
As for the Bible, (I also happen to be a former Hebrew grad student) I would say that it lacks historicity and undermines many of the best modern values (equality, democracy, etc). It's hard to study it academically and continue believing in its central message - if indeed, there ever were a central message of the Bible.
you dropped something.
sorry, but coming from SLC, there aren't many names one can drop. so when it's a lizard epicly latere'd thread, you get hometown pride - like when Mainers talk about Rob Welsh.
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All this talk of agnosticism reminds me of an old joke:
" I was, ah, in love in my freshman year, but I did not marry the first girl that I fell in love with, because there was a tremendous religious conflict, at the time. She was an atheist, and I was an agnostic, y'know. We didn't know which religion not to bring the children up in."
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pretty much the same thing charles barkley said years back and i fully agree. as a parent you need to be involved enough to know what's up with your kids hobby's and interests.
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he is not a role model. he's not paid to be a role model. he's paid to wreak havoc on his skateboard. parents should be role models. just because he rides a skateboard doesn't mean he should raise your kids.
so do you think that these guys shouldn't be able to enjoy their sucess how they want to because there are shitty parents in the world? they don't give a shit about random kids they don't know and as a parent i don't think it's their responsiblity to. it's the same thing that happens in music, movies, etc... kids are going to get exsposed to these kinds of things and these guys work hard and in my opinion deserver to enjoy (and possibly throw away) their sucess how ever they see fit.
just look at greco, how much tighter was he when he was a pile? and there's a shitload of band examples. clean up and start sucking. hosoi was tighter when he was strung out. list goes on and on.
That's pretty funny as a parent you support drug use. To each his own. Lizard King is sick, but the whole worshiping Satan thing is pretty ignorant. I had this deep conversation last night about Heaven and Hell, and Angels and Demons, and Satan with this dude who studied the Bible and religion.
Satan was created, so he ain't as powerful as God. And if you think Hell is full of sin, you're wrong, there is no sin, maybe a little, it's mostly suffering. It's in the Bible.
So if you believe in the paranormal, ghosts and demons, then you would understand that the most darkest evilest beings don't want to be in Hell, they escape and come to Earth. So even they don't want to be there.
It's like Lizard King is preaching about some shit he doesn't even have the slightest clue about. Yeah I bought the Iron Maiden cd, yeah Satan!
Why I mention it is because a shit head of skaters love the whole 666 and do it for Satan shit, and that is just a sign of lack of education. Thus as a professional you should have the common sense from street skating that kids are impressionable. So I'd definitely say that Lizard King is responsible for mis-leading a whole population of kids about the reality of Hell from his own ignorance, full circle of piles, cool.
I'd rather see Lizard King get into Shaman stuff, that would be a better fit.
Perhaps he worships a Satan that is different from yours? Or are you saying that there is only one religion/God and everyone else is wrong? You are condemning someone for their beliefs, I don't know if that's what your holy book tells you to do, but I'm glad I don't have to be so prejudiced.
And I would not call disinterest towards religion "lack of education".
Just pushing your buttons, I have no interest in getting in to an argument about religion, I lack education.
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maybe he just likes the idea of satan. A badass that defies the most powerful being in the universe. or maybe he just likes to piss people off.
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or maybe arguments about religion are all the same and never go anywhere
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try to be a good person.
thats my "religion" and everybody should make an effort as well
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i'm down for lizard and i don't really care about his personal choices. he shreds.
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I once spray painted a stencil of Dick Cheney on my grip tape to harness the power of true evil. He is an actual malignant being, not some made up fairytale bullcrap. Sit on it, Cunningham.
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Lizard King is responsible for mis-leading a whole population of kids about the reality of Hell
seriously? see that's your first fuckup right there. thinking of it as a reality makes you take it much more seriously than you should. for that matter, how does anyone but the dead+evil know if it's a reality? they don't! and no-one has been back from that shit with enough proof to say yes or no. stooooooops.
I'd rather see Lizard King get into Shaman stuff, that would be a better fit.
agreed. always been a much bigger fan of things that can be experienced, and thus known, than anything that involves believing a man's word. especially a man with a huge fucking agenda.
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Lizard King is responsible for mis-leading a whole population of kids about the reality of Hell
seriously? see that's your first fuckup right there. thinking of it as a reality makes you take it much more seriously than you should. for that matter, how does anyone but the dead+evil know if it's a reality? they don't! and no-one has been back from that shit with enough proof to say yes or no. stooooooops.
Even if someone did comeback from hell and tell everyone what happened and what its like (in which many people have) narrow minded people like you would never believe them. You would just caste them off as some insane christian idiot.
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Lizard King is responsible for mis-leading a whole population of kids about the reality of Hell
seriously? see that's your first fuckup right there. thinking of it as a reality makes you take it much more seriously than you should. for that matter, how does anyone but the dead+evil know if it's a reality? they don't! and no-one has been back from that shit with enough proof to say yes or no. stooooooops.
Even if someone did comeback from hell and tell everyone what happened and what its like (in which many people have) narrow minded people like you would never believe them. You would just caste them off as some insane christian idiot.
So, you're saying that people have fucking died, went to "Hell," and came back like this guy:
(http://suddenlyatheist.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/opt_zombie-jesus.jpg)
[Yeah, Jesus went to "Heaven." I know.]
Yeah, I would cast someone off as an insane idiot, unless it was April 1.
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(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l026l0LKGo1qzvcfgo1_500.jpg)
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Homies, chill! I'm just trying to get some face time in TWS with this shit, yo.
I do everything for satan and nothing for satan. get my drift? Passion. Passion.
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Read the Bible if you want to know where hell and Satan comes from. And what it's all about. Huge difference between the words sin and suffering.
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stop telling me about the bible.
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Lizard King is responsible for mis-leading a whole population of kids about the reality of Hell
seriously? see that's your first fuckup right there. thinking of it as a reality makes you take it much more seriously than you should. for that matter, how does anyone but the dead+evil know if it's a reality? they don't! and no-one has been back from that shit with enough proof to say yes or no. stooooooops.
Even if someone did comeback from hell and tell everyone what happened and what its like (in which many people have) narrow minded people like you would never believe them. You would just caste them off as some insane christian idiot.
(http://suddenlyatheist.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/opt_zombie-jesus.jpg)
[Yeah, Jesus went to "Heaven." I know.]
Yeah, I would cast someone off as an insane idiot, unless it was April 1.
I never said anyone came back as a zombie. And if your familiar with the the life of jesus christ he didnt come back as a zombie. he came back as a coherent being.
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Who says zombies aren't coherent?
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Last week I was drunk and stoned out of my mind and this mexican guy who heard me playing music in front of the store called. (When I gave him my number he said it was for a well paying roofing job.) He gave me that weird religious passive pressure and asked if I could come over right away to his house for a bible meeting and told me to get my bible and read something in revelations about the oil spill which I did at his request. I told him my dying grandmother was over and I was making her dinner. Not sure what my point is, but if you believe the bible is even halfway true and should be respected for the great lessons and morals than you are a worthless idiot in my eyes. Read Why I'm not a Christian by Bertrand Russel. Please save the world from another person promoting and keeping religion alive and educate yourself http://www.amazon.com/Christian-Essays-Religion-Related-Subjects/dp/0671203231
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at least we can all agree that scientology is stupid
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at least we can all agree that scientology is stupid
That may be debatable in the professional skateboard community
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at least we can all agree that scientology is stupid
The Church will sue you for slander. You gotta be careful about what you say.