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Title: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: HeshSesh on June 24, 2011, 08:22:51 PM
the high trucks vs. low topic made me curious.

Which do you skate and why?

go.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: BriDen on June 24, 2011, 08:41:15 PM
Tight trucks because I like breaking my kingpin every 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: heckler on June 24, 2011, 08:42:34 PM
Benefits of tight trucks: nothing.

Benefits of loose trucks: turning, maneuvering, fun.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: ChildoftheGhetto on June 24, 2011, 08:45:16 PM
You, can't even skate well enough to tell the difference. I hate little faggots like you so much. You probably don't even skate loose enough to even say you skate loose. You're a faggot.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Cold Pizza on June 24, 2011, 09:05:21 PM
I like my trucks between "loose" and "you're a faggot".  Been riding them like that for years.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Upgrayedd on June 24, 2011, 09:10:34 PM
im more of a metrosexual. Im not a faggot, but im not holding my nut on with super glue either.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: svilleantigo on June 24, 2011, 09:16:51 PM
i'm into horses. should i switch to softer bushings?
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: redhatchet on June 24, 2011, 09:35:53 PM
You, can't even skate well enough to tell the difference. I hate little faggots like you so much. You probably don't even skate loose enough to even say you skate loose. You're a faggot.

Am i gay because I have loose trucks?  :-\
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: ChildoftheGhetto on June 24, 2011, 09:39:34 PM
There's nothing wrong with loose trucks. I used to skate really loose, until i realized that I like not getting wheelbite. It's just i know that fag doesn't even skate loose and is saying that because it's "cool" to have loose trucks, and looking for approval from some faggots. The kid can barely roll on a skateboard talking about loose trucks. Get the fuck out. Kids like him and victor piss me off, because their opinions are manufactured specifically to get props from fags that post on slap.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Tuna on June 24, 2011, 09:44:25 PM
i can't roll around comfortably on tight trucks, if thats what felt right to me than i would probably ride tight trucks.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Man Without A Plan on June 24, 2011, 09:57:11 PM
I prefer my trucks loose, I used to have them insanely tight. I changed it because no matter how much I leaned to the left or right, I just wouldn't turn. They feel better loose for me too.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: heckler on June 24, 2011, 10:19:31 PM
Believe whatever you want, COTG.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Pabst on June 24, 2011, 10:22:15 PM
Believe, COTG.

dude is usually right.


Edit:
oh yeah, the topic, n' shit.
uh,
loose, like when you ride you hear the washer rattle.
everything becomes a pocket, and it makes powerslides chiller.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: MFS on June 25, 2011, 12:33:30 AM
Im a quarter bi-sexual. Not to loose but not to tight, closer to loose though.

Never mind, I suck at skateboarding so Im going to quit and kill myself and my trucks.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: john04o8 on June 25, 2011, 12:43:06 AM
nice and tight, i ollie higher and skate straight i dont get how people skate loose trucks but good for them
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Joust Ostrich on June 25, 2011, 12:52:48 AM

Dan Gesmer - The magic of effortless gliding. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f9ItCoey0k#)
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: friendly dave on June 25, 2011, 02:34:10 AM
Front one a little looser than the back one.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: finknoos on June 25, 2011, 02:42:53 AM
i skate them as loose as theyl go, even have to use hi trucks with risers to try and avoid wheelbite.

benefits?... fun, easier to land things that arent fully rotated, dont like the feeling of tight trucks, makes bombing hills feel scarier too (which i like)
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: metamachine on June 25, 2011, 04:23:18 AM
i skate about as loose as i can get but my front truck is always more loose  as my back one. i get really specific about my board and how it feels and since im too much of a pussy to change my washers ive skated a wile without the upper washer in my front truck.

i do notice that when ever i skate my homies decks (all super tight) they feel snappier, like the deck is brand new. so i geuss i get more controll on tight trucks but miss out a bit on the fun factor
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: grimcity on June 25, 2011, 06:25:15 AM
Im a quarter bi-sexual. Not to loose but not to tight, closer to loose though.

Never mind, I suck at skateboarding so Im going to quit and kill myself and my trucks.
It gets better, yo.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Laestadius on June 25, 2011, 07:16:43 AM
None of my skater friends read slap boards. They all ride 7.5 boards and trucks so tight they tick-tack everything. I used to be one of them. Since I started lurking Slap I've changed to 7.75 boards and loosened my trucks so I can turn but not wheelbite with my skinny frame. Maybe it's lame to receive opinions from Slap, but being able to turn is fun.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Justis on June 25, 2011, 07:23:16 AM
i'm into horses. should i switch to softer bushings?


heheh
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: stephop on June 25, 2011, 07:44:06 AM
Tight trucks 7.5 boards and 50 mm wheels is the only way to skate.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: matter of fact on June 25, 2011, 08:41:45 AM
mine got tighter recently, a year ago it was factory looseness with indy soft bushings, then i tightened them to skate big tranny one time, then they got shitty and i got ventures, which i tightened up a little more with regulation bushings.  hoping to go back to indy lows soon, but thinking now the height doesn't really affect anything
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Schmaltz on June 25, 2011, 08:47:46 AM
Tight trucks are for fat fucks or 9 year olds.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: 7plyskate on June 25, 2011, 11:03:51 AM
Not quite super glue loose, but soft bushings and no kingpin sticking out loose. I think the best part of loose trucks is when a friend steps on your deck and can't do anything at all because they're used to medium tight trucks. Its just entertaining seeing almost everyone else wobble all over on my board when I smooth sail on it. The downside of it is the effect it has on learning flip tricks.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on June 25, 2011, 11:20:14 AM
Tight trucks because I like breaking my kingpin every 2 weeks.
Whoa dude, you are wayyyy fatter than the pictures of you imply!

I don't know if my trucks are loose or tight, they are just where I like them. Anybody who's trucks are tighter than what I ride are tight in my opinion, anybody who rides looser ride them loose in my opinion. Based on others riding my board, my trucks are pretty loose.
Loose trucks- pros:better for tranny and just feel good. You can get groovy when you push around and when  you skate some sketchy tranny it helps you grab the wall better, same with wallrides and wallie type stuff
cons: wheel bite, speed wobbles

I kinda disagree that powerslides are easier on loose trucks though, they just feel different. Loose trucks make you feel like you are leaning into it, whereas if your trucks are tight, its kind of a flat slide. Really wheels are the difference makers in powersliding.

Tight trucks- help focus the energy of your tail to give you a little bit more pop, easier to balance grinds and manuals for longer, board is more responsive to flip tricks, easier to go faster without speed wobbles
cons: tic tacking, makes it harder to pump tranny


Honestly, my trucks depend on what I am skating at the moment. Living in SF I skated basically hills, wallrides, and tranny, and at one point rode without a top bushing. In LA I skate more ledges and shit, so the trucks are considerably tighter, but still pretty loose by most standards
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: pica on June 25, 2011, 11:21:01 AM
Tight trucks 7.5 boards and 50 mm wheels is the only way to skate.
i think the average slap setup looks quite different...
anyway. loose trucks all the way. bushings are for turning not for squeezing them. if you like tight trucks drill a hole in a stone and replace your bushings with it.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: mandibleclaw on June 25, 2011, 11:26:15 AM
i skate really loose trucks.  but i don't get too gnarly--no real gaps or anything, and nothing that makes me go light-speed.  skating big bowls, i'll get speed wobble sometimes, and tighten them a bit.  if i were gnar, i'd probably skate tighter trucks, since when you go faster, you turn harder, and don't need trucks as loose.  also, i get wheelbite all the time (although i wax my wheel-wells so it's not as bad).  loose trucks rule for how i skate, but there are definite drawbacks if you want to get serious.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: steve martin on June 25, 2011, 11:30:55 AM
I Steve Martin like my trucks tight like I like my pussy! TIGHT AS FUCK! But when Im in the cut I like mine alittle loose..You know when im ledge dancing and shit...
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: stephop on June 25, 2011, 11:33:29 AM
Tight trucks 7.5 boards and 50 mm wheels is the only way to skate.
i think the average slap setup looks quite different...
anyway. loose trucks all the way. bushings are for turning not for squeezing them. if you like tight trucks drill a hole in a stone and replace your bushings with it.

Most people on Slap don't skate. Higher ollies, better manuals and flip tricks with tight trucks.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: pica on June 25, 2011, 11:35:44 AM
Tight trucks 7.5 boards and 50 mm wheels is the only way to skate.
i think the average slap setup looks quite different...
anyway. loose trucks all the way. bushings are for turning not for squeezing them. if you like tight trucks drill a hole in a stone and replace your bushings with it.

Most people on Slap don't skate. Higher ollies, better manuals and flip tricks with tight trucks.
never heard of it....
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on June 25, 2011, 11:38:53 AM
Tight trucks 7.5 boards and 50 mm wheels is the only way to skate.
i think the average slap setup looks quite different...
anyway. loose trucks all the way. bushings are for turning not for squeezing them. if you like tight trucks drill a hole in a stone and replace your bushings with it.

Most people on Slap don't skate. Higher ollies, better manuals and flip tricks with tight trucks.

i usually have my front truck tighter than the back truck. it really helps you with mall-grabs, no more "ohoh, its all wobbly in my hands", no sir! tight grip, no slippage, and the ladies are all like "whaaaa, look how confident he is carrying his sons toy! i shall let him enter my sacred tunnel of love!"
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Jesus-Condom on June 25, 2011, 11:39:34 AM
Front one a little looser than the back one.

 Been riding my trucks the same way
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Bertie on June 25, 2011, 11:40:30 AM
Loose, cause I don't really play with manuals. Like friendly dave -except for no good reason- I ride my front truck a little looser. I used to be mad on Muska when I was a little rat and he said in one interview that he did the same, been doing it ever since. If you skate with your trucks tight for flip tricks, you're getting into pressure flip territory. That's some wackness.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Bertie on June 25, 2011, 11:52:55 AM
Tight trucks 7.5 boards and 50 mm wheels was the only way to skate indoor parks in windpants and dc lynx in 1999.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: pica on June 25, 2011, 11:55:37 AM
Tight trucks 7.5 boards and 50 mm wheels was the only way to skate indoor parks in windpants and es scheme in 1999.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Bertie on June 25, 2011, 11:59:11 AM
Tight trucks 7.5 boards and 50 mm wheels was the only way to skate indoor parks in windpants and es scheme in 1999.
where is the thanks button on this board?
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: sdscanz on June 25, 2011, 12:03:47 PM
i usually just skate indy 149's how they come, but i think this time i gave it a half turn looser. oh and i never remember to tighten my hardware when it comes loose so that makes it feel looser too.
and for the record i skate a 8.5 and don't go anywhere near tranny. board size/ truck looseness has nothing to do with what you skate it's just what is comfortable to you.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: vegan*shawn on June 25, 2011, 12:14:21 PM
Loose
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: streetPirate22 on June 25, 2011, 12:52:33 PM
Loose. Quicker response and they help in rolling away from sloppy landings.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: stephop on June 25, 2011, 01:44:19 PM
Tight trucks 7.5 boards and 50 mm wheels is the only way to skate.
i think the average slap setup looks quite different...
anyway. loose trucks all the way. bushings are for turning not for squeezing them. if you like tight trucks drill a hole in a stone and replace your bushings with it.

Most people on Slap don't skate. Higher ollies, better manuals and flip tricks with tight trucks.
never heard of it....

You can ollie considerably higher with tight trucks because you tail snaps quicker.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: iKobrakai on June 25, 2011, 01:47:49 PM
Tight. Loose trucks are for fags who like Alex Olson.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: scorpion1001 on June 25, 2011, 02:03:55 PM
somewhere inbetween, probably more towards loose than tight
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Mullet Man on June 25, 2011, 02:14:10 PM
I don't think there's any scientific evidence that supports the theory that tight trucks somehow make you ollie higher. It doesn't change the angle of your tail, so it couldn't make it snap faster. ? 

I think loose trucks actually give the feeling of more control because you're not having to fight the board, it leans when you want it to. You can carve and swerve in and out of tricks more naturally. Get some rhythym going. They call it "jazz", you should try it. See Gonz and BA. Swerve a little between tricks to re-establish your balance while looking steezy.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: hekkahyphy on June 25, 2011, 02:18:44 PM
Agree with mullet man. I've seen friends land and the boards going one way and they're leaning the other. I feel like wheelbite doesn't happen enough to make me wanna tighten my trucks...
I then proceed to poop on my bushings to make em softer
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Mullet Man on June 25, 2011, 02:29:47 PM
I do believe in experimenting, though. Try different board sizes, truck tightness, etc. , it's all fun.

That said, I tend to drink so tight trucks can be dangerous. But I'll try it for shits and giggles. I haven't tried doo-dooing on my bushings yet. I have a #2 on deck, so maybe I'll rub some on and give it a go?
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Omamori on June 25, 2011, 02:46:32 PM
I like the best of both worlds. My trucks are loose enough for me to turn, but tight enough to reduce wheel bite.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: pica on June 25, 2011, 04:30:08 PM
back truck with the hardest bushing thightening it to the fullest, and front truck with bones soft with one bushing only wight be a sick idea.
if you think a hard bushing makes you ollie higher ask westgate...
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Eschaton on June 25, 2011, 04:52:55 PM
My friends say my trucks are tight but I think they're moderately loose. I never understood ridiculously loose trucks, when you put your weight down to pop it just feels unstable. People been eating too much daewon song shit.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: William Jefferson Clinton on June 25, 2011, 04:54:00 PM
Tight trucks 7.5 boards and 50 mm wheels is the only way to skate.
That is actually my set up tight now because im at my grandmas.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Doogie Howser Ph.D. on June 25, 2011, 04:56:57 PM
Tight trucks 7.5 boards and 50 mm wheels is the only way to skate.
That is actually my grandma's setup

fixed
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Buddha on June 25, 2011, 06:38:06 PM
i usually just skate indy 149's how they come, but i think this time i gave it a half turn looser. oh and i never remember to tighten my hardware when it comes loose so that makes it feel looser too.
and for the record i skate a 8.5 and don't go anywhere near tranny. board size/ truck looseness has nothing to do with what you skate it's just what is comfortable to you.
You must have switched the bushings out or cut them down.  I can't get Indy's with stock bushings and both washers anywhere remotely loose.  I skate 149's flush with no top washers and I still have problems getting them loose enough without the nut falling off.   
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: daniel on June 25, 2011, 06:54:27 PM
Loose.

I borrowed a friend's board once for a quick skate to the store.
Almost killed myself: if you can't swerve, you can't balance.

Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Isaiah Kemp on June 25, 2011, 06:58:55 PM
On tight trucks, I tend to lose my board in oncoming traffic. Part of that is me being a bonehead, part of that is the lack of turning when I need to.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: ChildoftheGhetto on June 25, 2011, 07:09:15 PM
I don't think there's any scientific evidence that supports the theory that tight trucks somehow make you ollie higher. It doesn't change the angle of your tail, so it couldn't make it snap faster. ?

I think loose trucks actually give the feeling of more control because you're not having to fight the board, it leans when you want it to. You can carve and swerve in and out of tricks more naturally. Get some rhythym going. They call it "jazz", you should try it. See Gonz and BA. Swerve a little between tricks to re-establish your balance while looking steezy.
Might be because you don't have to use your stabilizer muscles to keep you steady, so you get full power from your legs. Could be wrong.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: bandini on June 25, 2011, 07:20:08 PM
I've always done it the same way: buy Indys, hand tighten the bolt until you can't turn it with your hand anymore, then give one tiny little 20 degree turn with the skate tool. Bada bing.

This doesn't put you in Matt Rodriguez or Daewon territory, but I can't remember the last time I stepped on someone else's board & their trucks didn't feel tight in comparison to mine.

I know plenty of dudes who ride super tight trucks and are really good, so obviously it's just a whatever floats your boat kinda thing. Personally, I can't even push with tight trucks let alone do tricks.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Sleazy on June 25, 2011, 07:43:06 PM
soft bones bushings in indys with them as loose as i can without the bolts falling off.

no one gives a shit about my skating, i'm not trying to win the session and loose trucks are fun. it's really not that complicated as to why people like it.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: ChildoftheGhetto on June 25, 2011, 07:49:19 PM
I like how there's always a negative connotation on being good/wanting to get better at skating. No matter what thread you're in, you'll see someone try to shit on good skaters.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Doogie Howser Ph.D. on June 25, 2011, 08:04:22 PM
I like how there's always a negative connotation on being good/wanting to get better at skating. No matter what thread you're in, you'll see someone try to shit on good skaters.

I thought you loved haters?
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: ChildoftheGhetto on June 25, 2011, 08:05:39 PM
I said I liked it(no homo?)
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Doogie Howser Ph.D. on June 25, 2011, 08:08:29 PM
I said I liked it(no homo?)

How the fuck could that have been gay and I thought you were being sarcastic 
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: ChildoftheGhetto on June 25, 2011, 08:10:19 PM
It sounded kind of moist in my head
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Mullet Man on June 25, 2011, 08:18:35 PM
The only things that will help you ollie higher are "jumping higher" and "multiple attempts". That's it.

Bushing durometer, truck tightness, vulc/cupsole hybrid soles, holographic bracelets, skate-specific socks, etc. simply do not matter, and if you think they do, maybe it's that very mentality that is actually limiting your potential? 
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: L33Tg33k on June 25, 2011, 08:19:14 PM
I'm significantly fatter than most skaters so I'm pretty sure my trucks feel looser to me than they would to most anyone else, but even so, people tend to tell me my trucks are on the looser side.  The only benefit I can think of is not having to tick tack around like Nyjah.  I would gladly swap my non-tick tacking ways for big spin hurricanes though.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: gkn00dlez on June 25, 2011, 09:25:57 PM
tight pussy
loose trucks?

loose pussy
tight trucks?

idk

depends on the girl I guess
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Sgt.Pepper on June 25, 2011, 10:06:37 PM
loose trucks always. but just put in new bushings so they are kind of tight at the moment. it sucks :'(
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: RajeevWins on June 25, 2011, 10:06:57 PM
It sounded kind of moist in my head

LOL IM DEAD

edit:
- i ride somewhere in between
- random thought: sounds dumb i know, but would you still get wheel bite if you just ran a piece of wax over those 4 lil pieces of your board real lightly one time?
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: 7plyskate on June 25, 2011, 10:15:04 PM
As far as wheel bite goes I typically end up with no problems with it. Seems like I only get stopped from wheel bite if Im going slow, but with speed it just keeps rolling even when its touching.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: formeitscrazylike on June 25, 2011, 10:41:01 PM
i like this topic.

i ride em real loose. had the same pair for two years, got brand new trucks, but couldn't loosen them enough, so i put the old ones back on. i don't get much wheelbite, and it just feels better. i like that i can turn with my front foot while i push, if they're too tight i can't do that and it fucks me up
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: 7plyskate on June 25, 2011, 11:02:18 PM
i like this topic.

i ride em real loose. had the same pair for two years, got brand new trucks, but couldn't loosen them enough, so i put the old ones back on. i don't get much wheelbite, and it just feels better. i like that i can turn with my front foot while i push, if they're too tight i can't do that and it fucks me up

Why not just transfer your bushings over so you atleast have a fresh hanger?
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: bandini on June 25, 2011, 11:36:35 PM
Quote
i like that i can turn with my front foot while i push, if they're too tight i can't do that and it fucks me up

Haha - exactly. I'm so used to turning with one foot while I push that with tight trucks I literally take one push and fall off the board - makes me look like it's my first day learning to skate.

The whole wheelbite thing only ever happened to me when I tried riding lows once. I couldn't get my trucks loose enough without wheelbite, so I ditched the lows. Hasn't been a prob since.

Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: ChildOfTheBurbs on June 25, 2011, 11:40:03 PM
How can one skate and not appreciate the feeling up turning?
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Cold Pizza on June 26, 2011, 06:55:58 AM
random thought: sounds dumb i know, but would you still get wheel bite if you just ran a piece of wax over those 4 lil pieces of your board real lightly one time?

I've been doing this for years, works great.  I think I first read about Matt Rodriguez doing it in an interview.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Flipkick on June 26, 2011, 07:57:51 AM
There's nothing wrong with loose trucks. I used to skate really loose, until i realized that I like not getting wheelbite. It's just i know that fag doesn't even skate loose and is saying that because it's "cool" to have loose trucks, and looking for approval from some faggots. The kid can barely roll on a skateboard talking about loose trucks. Get the fuck out. Kids like him and victor piss me off, because their opinions are manufactured specifically to get props from fags that post on slap.

Some one just got trolled so hard.


I'm around 170 pounds, so I need them a little tighter.  Damn beer weight messing things up nowadays.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: pandarelated on June 26, 2011, 10:47:49 AM
I don't think there's any scientific evidence that supports the theory that tight trucks somehow make you ollie higher. It doesn't change the angle of your tail, so it couldn't make it snap faster. ? 

I think loose trucks actually give the feeling of more control because you're not having to fight the board, it leans when you want it to. You can carve and swerve in and out of tricks more naturally. Get some rhythym going. They call it "jazz", you should try it. See Gonz and BA. Swerve a little between tricks to re-establish your balance while looking steezy.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on June 26, 2011, 11:33:05 AM
The only things that will help you ollie higher are "jumping higher" and "multiple attempts". That's it.

Bushing durometer, truck tightness, vulc/cupsole hybrid soles, holographic bracelets, skate-specific socks, etc. simply do not matter, and if you think they do, maybe it's that very mentality that is actually limiting your potential? 
You're an idiot. Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it untrue. The world must be very scary to you. Not to mention this is common knowledge to people who actually do skate. It's not like you'll get another foot to your ollie, but its a noticable difference.

Do you not understand energy efficiency? You see, when you snap the board, you put out a certain amount of energy. If you are on loose trucks, there is a lot more play in the left/right fulcrum of the board, so a considerable amount of energy is used on the left-right fulcrum instead of the front-rear fulcrum. When you are on tight trucks, the board has less play on the left-right fulcrum, making the energy you expel become more efficiently concentrated in snapping the tail down, instead of twisting left and right. This also is why newer, stiffer boards have more snap, less energy is wasted on the flexing of the board.

I'm sure you will laugh at this and respond with something stupid in an unwarranted arrogant tone, but I'm just explaining something you clearly don't understand, so just shut up and say thank you.

And to whoever said it, super tight trucks, skinny boards, and tiny ass wheels are great if you like doing tricks in a tiny little area that has perfect ground and nothing but a ledge and a manual pad, but fucking terrible if you like to actually skateboard. I seriously don't understand why somebody would get 50 mm wheels, tiny wheels make so many spots unskateable, and you can do anything you can do on small wheels on bigger ones. Truck tightness variation I get, but I see no advantage to riding anything under 56 mm.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: stephop on June 26, 2011, 12:12:02 PM
You don't know what the fuck your talking about Reagan.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Joust Ostrich on June 26, 2011, 01:00:57 PM
The only things that will help you ollie higher are "jumping higher" and "multiple attempts". That's it.

Bushing durometer, truck tightness, vulc/cupsole hybrid soles, holographic bracelets, skate-specific socks, etc. simply do not matter, and if you think they do, maybe it's that very mentality that is actually limiting your potential? 
You're an idiot. Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it untrue. The world must be very scary to you. Not to mention this is common knowledge to people who actually do skate. It's not like you'll get another foot to your ollie, but its a noticable difference.

Do you not understand energy efficiency? You see, when you snap the board, you put out a certain amount of energy. If you are on loose trucks, there is a lot more play in the left/right fulcrum of the board, so a considerable amount of energy is used on the left-right fulcrum instead of the front-rear fulcrum. When you are on tight trucks, the board has less play on the left-right fulcrum, making the energy you expel become more efficiently concentrated in snapping the tail down, instead of twisting left and right. This also is why newer, stiffer boards have more snap, less energy is wasted on the flexing of the board.

I'm sure you will laugh at this and respond with something stupid in an unwarranted arrogant tone, but I'm just explaining something you clearly don't understand, so just shut up and say thank you.

And to whoever said it, super tight trucks, skinny boards, and tiny ass wheels are great if you like doing tricks in a tiny little area that has perfect ground and nothing but a ledge and a manual pad, but fucking terrible if you like to actually skateboard. I seriously don't understand why somebody would get 50 mm wheels, tiny wheels make so many spots unskateable, and you can do anything you can do on small wheels on bigger ones. Truck tightness variation I get, but I see no advantage to riding anything under 56 mm.

Agreeing with you twice in five minutes, what a fine day.  Well the first three paragraphs.

For me, and I'm speaking only for me, because in general the last paragraph should be true, but I have a timing issue on bigger wheels.  When riding 51's I can do flip tricks significantly easier than on 54's.  The amount of motion it takes to ollie and flip takes way more effort and concentration on bigger wheels, for me.  I can rifle off kickflips or whatever with barely a thought.  But I'm older and less flexible than I once was.  But in general bigger wheels are faster and way more fun and you should be able to adapt and not give a shit.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: sdscanz on June 26, 2011, 02:30:36 PM
reagan just tried to bill nye the science guy skateboarding.
maybe if you spent more time ollieing and less time contemplating torsional fulcrums or whatever you'd ollie higher.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: pica on June 26, 2011, 03:50:16 PM
The only things that will help you ollie higher are "jumping higher" and "multiple attempts". That's it.

Bushing durometer, truck tightness, vulc/cupsole hybrid soles, holographic bracelets, skate-specific socks, etc. simply do not matter, and if you think they do, maybe it's that very mentality that is actually limiting your potential? 
You're an idiot. Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it untrue. The world must be very scary to you. Not to mention this is common knowledge to people who actually do skate. It's not like you'll get another foot to your ollie, but its a noticable difference.

Do you not understand energy efficiency? You see, when you snap the board, you put out a certain amount of energy. If you are on loose trucks, there is a lot more play in the left/right fulcrum of the board, so a considerable amount of energy is used on the left-right fulcrum instead of the front-rear fulcrum. When you are on tight trucks, the board has less play on the left-right fulcrum, making the energy you expel become more efficiently concentrated in snapping the tail down, instead of twisting left and right. This also is why newer, stiffer boards have more snap, less energy is wasted on the flexing of the board.

I'm sure you will laugh at this and respond with something stupid in an unwarranted arrogant tone, but I'm just explaining something you clearly don't understand, so just shut up and say thank you.

And to whoever said it, super tight trucks, skinny boards, and tiny ass wheels are great if you like doing tricks in a tiny little area that has perfect ground and nothing but a ledge and a manual pad, but fucking terrible if you like to actually skateboard. I seriously don't understand why somebody would get 50 mm wheels, tiny wheels make so many spots unskateable, and you can do anything you can do on small wheels on bigger ones. Truck tightness variation I get, but I see no advantage to riding anything under 56 mm.
still waiting for the special highest ollie competition "no hanger-no baseplate-all in one" truck.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Mullet Man on June 26, 2011, 03:52:06 PM
Not to mention it's all bullshit.

Why would you expend energy to the left/right fulcrum? You focus it to the tail because at that point you are not turning, you are ollieing. That post ignored that one obvious thing, and the rest is blabbering. It would be true if people skated that way, but they don't. I once saw Julien Stranger in person, popping the most proper ollies ever on the crappiest, most razor tailed and chipped board ever and it had crazy loose trucks. Looked like a little kid's board that he tried to rock for 6 years. I'm sure there's lots of science that maintains he shouldn't be able to ollie that high (paging lil' Gipper), but somehow he does. Probably because Julien Stranger knows that ollieing is merely jumping and smacking the tail, and if you think too much about it, well, that might be your problem right there. I'm not quoting him, I'm guessing.

That kid's posts are great for this one quality - they often have major contridictions and hypocisy that for some reason he can't see but we can. Most of the time it's all in the same paragraph! I actually like spotting these, they're great. This one had the gem " I'm sure you will laugh at this and respond with something stupid in an unwarranted arrogant tone, but I'm just explaining something you clearly don't understand, so just shut up and say thank you..."

Thanks for that totally warranted and non-arrogant tone, there champ. Methinks this kid hates me, oh, a little bit too much. I think what probably set him off was someone quoted me for truth. Can't have that! That must have pushed his psycho chick button into overdrive. Talk about creepy! Think he's erected the candle/photo shrine yet?

Anyway, I can make it so easy to understand that even Chatty Cathy up there can (well, maybe) understand.

1. Watch Gonz's part in Video Days.

2. If you liked what you saw, ask yourself "Could he do that with tight trucks?"

3. If you didn't like what you saw, get the fuck out of skateboarding and kill yourself because you're killing me.

Whew, that was easy!
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: pica on June 26, 2011, 03:55:03 PM
^ i totally agree.
still calling a field testing on this one.
the idea of seeing mr.regan doing ollies over his friends decks with loose trucks and later on with tight trucks, just to
proof that he is right is too good for me.
i'm expecting a youtube video to drop soon.
this ain't rocket science, it's just skateboarding.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Ripped Laces on June 26, 2011, 07:40:17 PM
I just broke another kingpin on my indys this week but I refuse to get thunders as a replacement but I was thinking of trying theeve trucks. i typically break about 1 kingpin a year and I'm the type to stick to a truck until there dead. I wanted to know if theeve are all around titanium, not just the axle or hanger, is the kingpin and base plate titanium too?
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: goldman on June 26, 2011, 08:00:07 PM
loose: fun, turning, speed wobbles, penis.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Jonorhea on June 26, 2011, 08:13:45 PM
the idea of a skateboarding forum is fucking hilarious.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: HeshSesh on June 26, 2011, 08:29:33 PM
the idea of a skateboarding forum is fucking hilarious.
awesome.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: camel filters on June 26, 2011, 09:19:33 PM
what are the benefits of an 10.5 sized shoe?
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Jonorhea on June 26, 2011, 09:31:00 PM
what are the benefits of an 10.5 sized shoe?
hahahhaa
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: ChildOfTheBurbs on June 26, 2011, 09:38:17 PM
Skating with washers and no top bushing you weenies!
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: ChildoftheGhetto on June 26, 2011, 09:40:45 PM
I don't know why people do that. It feels like your kingpin can break at any second skating like that. You can get your trucks that loose and still have bushings.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Jonorhea on June 26, 2011, 09:58:19 PM
Skating with washers and no top bushing you weenies!
are you kidding?
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: GISM on June 26, 2011, 10:10:26 PM
No rubbers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1a-gKjdBqk#)
Works for this guy
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Skate Edge on June 26, 2011, 11:42:01 PM
The better I get at skating, the looser I make my trucks.

I broke my leg skating, and pretty much didn't skate at all for 3 1/2 years.  When I started again, I wondered why I sucked so bad, and the reason was because my trucks were too tight.  I would periodically loosen my trucks, and every time I did it, it made skating easier. 

Turning is underrated. 
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: ChildOfTheBurbs on June 27, 2011, 12:00:44 AM
I get high off hearing the sound the washers make as my trucks wobble when I'm riding my board.  ;)
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Beer Keg Peg Leg on June 27, 2011, 02:12:59 AM
Not to mention it's all bullshit.

Why would you expend energy to the left/right fulcrum? You focus it to the tail because at that point you are not turning, you are ollieing. That post ignored that one obvious thing, and the rest is blabbering. It would be true if people skated that way, but they don't. I once saw Julien Stranger in person, popping the most proper ollies ever on the crappiest, most razor tailed and chipped board ever and it had crazy loose trucks. Looked like a little kid's board that he tried to rock for 6 years. I'm sure there's lots of science that maintains he shouldn't be able to ollie that high (paging lil' Gipper), but somehow he does. Probably because Julien Stranger knows that ollieing is merely jumping and smacking the tail, and if you think too much about it, well, that might be your problem right there. I'm not quoting him, I'm guessing.

That kid's posts are great for this one quality - they often have major contridictions and hypocisy that for some reason he can't see but we can. Most of the time it's all in the same paragraph! I actually like spotting these, they're great. This one had the gem " I'm sure you will laugh at this and respond with something stupid in an unwarranted arrogant tone, but I'm just explaining something you clearly don't understand, so just shut up and say thank you..."

Thanks for that totally warranted and non-arrogant tone, there champ. Methinks this kid hates me, oh, a little bit too much. I think what probably set him off was someone quoted me for truth. Can't have that! That must have pushed his psycho chick button into overdrive. Talk about creepy! Think he's erected the candle/photo shrine yet?

Anyway, I can make it so easy to understand that even Chatty Cathy up there can (well, maybe) understand.

1. Watch Gonz's part in Video Days.

2. If you liked what you saw, ask yourself "Could he do that with tight trucks?"

3. If you didn't like what you saw, get the fuck out of skateboarding and kill yourself because you're killing me.

Whew, that was easy!


You are mentally retarded.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: clamy on June 27, 2011, 04:24:15 AM
Turning is underrated.? ? 

In a Thrasher, I think it was Marc Johnson, said "if you can't turn, you can't skate".

I also put some wax where wheelbite happens, been doing it for ages.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on June 27, 2011, 04:48:33 AM
Turning is underrated.? ? 

In a Thrasher, I think it was Marc Johnson, said "if you can't turn, you can't skate".

I also put some wax where wheelbite happens, been doing it for ages.

marc johnson is a wise man. with WAAAYY too few coverage in the last time.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Mullet Man on June 27, 2011, 06:22:37 AM
Not to mention it's all bullshit.

Why would you expend energy to the left/right fulcrum? You focus it to the tail because at that point you are not turning, you are ollieing. That post ignored that one obvious thing, and the rest is blabbering. It would be true if people skated that way, but they don't. I once saw Julien Stranger in person, popping the most proper ollies ever on the crappiest, most razor tailed and chipped board ever and it had crazy loose trucks. Looked like a little kid's board that he tried to rock for 6 years. I'm sure there's lots of science that maintains he shouldn't be able to ollie that high (paging lil' Gipper), but somehow he does. Probably because Julien Stranger knows that ollieing is merely jumping and smacking the tail, and if you think too much about it, well, that might be your problem right there. I'm not quoting him, I'm guessing.

That kid's posts are great for this one quality - they often have major contridictions and hypocisy that for some reason he can't see but we can. Most of the time it's all in the same paragraph! I actually like spotting these, they're great. This one had the gem " I'm sure you will laugh at this and respond with something stupid in an unwarranted arrogant tone, but I'm just explaining something you clearly don't understand, so just shut up and say thank you..."

Thanks for that totally warranted and non-arrogant tone, there champ. Methinks this kid hates me, oh, a little bit too much. I think what probably set him off was someone quoted me for truth. Can't have that! That must have pushed his psycho chick button into overdrive. Talk about creepy! Think he's erected the candle/photo shrine yet?

Anyway, I can make it so easy to understand that even Chatty Cathy up there can (well, maybe) understand.

1. Watch Gonz's part in Video Days.

2. If you liked what you saw, ask yourself "Could he do that with tight trucks?"

3. If you didn't like what you saw, get the fuck out of skateboarding and kill yourself because you're killing me.

Whew, that was easy!


You are mentally retarded.

An unsolicited attack with no basis usually means I must have hurt you pretty bad some time in the past. That's just sad.

You're an ex-girlfriend, aren't you? You and Lil' Gipper wouldn't be the first to girls to bond over being rejected by me!
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Beeda Weeda on June 27, 2011, 06:32:46 AM
i have for the last 10 plus years skated 7.5s, or 7.62s, with indys that are loose as fuck, i like it to find my "pocket" for 360 flip, and general skateboard riding.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: kamltoe on June 27, 2011, 07:44:50 AM
i like them looser than average. i recently went a 3/4 turn tighter on both trucks after setting up a new board, though i keep my front a bit looser than my back truck. the stability helped me feel a lot better when landing anything that involves taking both feet off the board, and i can still turn fine.

...and though i think that it's common knowledge that tighter trucks will give you a bit more snap, the real difference is how you line up your feet/hips/shoulders. if you got the power lined up right, then your truck tension won't make or break an ollie.

k
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Beer Keg Peg Leg on June 27, 2011, 08:09:13 AM
Not to mention it's all bullshit.

Why would you expend energy to the left/right fulcrum? You focus it to the tail because at that point you are not turning, you are ollieing. That post ignored that one obvious thing, and the rest is blabbering. It would be true if people skated that way, but they don't. I once saw Julien Stranger in person, popping the most proper ollies ever on the crappiest, most razor tailed and chipped board ever and it had crazy loose trucks. Looked like a little kid's board that he tried to rock for 6 years. I'm sure there's lots of science that maintains he shouldn't be able to ollie that high (paging lil' Gipper), but somehow he does. Probably because Julien Stranger knows that ollieing is merely jumping and smacking the tail, and if you think too much about it, well, that might be your problem right there. I'm not quoting him, I'm guessing.

That kid's posts are great for this one quality - they often have major contridictions and hypocisy that for some reason he can't see but we can. Most of the time it's all in the same paragraph! I actually like spotting these, they're great. This one had the gem " I'm sure you will laugh at this and respond with something stupid in an unwarranted arrogant tone, but I'm just explaining something you clearly don't understand, so just shut up and say thank you..."

Thanks for that totally warranted and non-arrogant tone, there champ. Methinks this kid hates me, oh, a little bit too much. I think what probably set him off was someone quoted me for truth. Can't have that! That must have pushed his psycho chick button into overdrive. Talk about creepy! Think he's erected the candle/photo shrine yet?

Anyway, I can make it so easy to understand that even Chatty Cathy up there can (well, maybe) understand.

1. Watch Gonz's part in Video Days.

2. If you liked what you saw, ask yourself "Could he do that with tight trucks?"

3. If you didn't like what you saw, get the fuck out of skateboarding and kill yourself because you're killing me.

Whew, that was easy!


You are mentally retarded.

An unsolicited attack with no basis usually means I must have hurt you pretty bad some time in the past. That's just sad.

You're an ex-girlfriend, aren't you? You and Lil' Gipper wouldn't be the first to girls to bond over being rejected by me!

What's sad is your complete lack of understanding of the physical world. Nobody is coordinated enough that every time they apply force to the tail it is in a direction that is exactly perpendicular to the ground. Gipper already explained the rest of it, but all you could seem to reply with was "JULIEN STRANGER OLLIE HIGH WITH BAD BOARD". Of course some people are better at it than others, but that doesn't negate the small, but still obvious, inefficiency created by loose trucks. Please stop contributing to topics you don't understand.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Jonorhea on June 27, 2011, 09:25:12 AM
Not to mention it's all bullshit.

Why would you expend energy to the left/right fulcrum? You focus it to the tail because at that point you are not turning, you are ollieing. That post ignored that one obvious thing, and the rest is blabbering. It would be true if people skated that way, but they don't. I once saw Julien Stranger in person, popping the most proper ollies ever on the crappiest, most razor tailed and chipped board ever and it had crazy loose trucks. Looked like a little kid's board that he tried to rock for 6 years. I'm sure there's lots of science that maintains he shouldn't be able to ollie that high (paging lil' Gipper), but somehow he does. Probably because Julien Stranger knows that ollieing is merely jumping and smacking the tail, and if you think too much about it, well, that might be your problem right there. I'm not quoting him, I'm guessing.

That kid's posts are great for this one quality - they often have major contridictions and hypocisy that for some reason he can't see but we can. Most of the time it's all in the same paragraph! I actually like spotting these, they're great. This one had the gem " I'm sure you will laugh at this and respond with something stupid in an unwarranted arrogant tone, but I'm just explaining something you clearly don't understand, so just shut up and say thank you..."

Thanks for that totally warranted and non-arrogant tone, there champ. Methinks this kid hates me, oh, a little bit too much. I think what probably set him off was someone quoted me for truth. Can't have that! That must have pushed his psycho chick button into overdrive. Talk about creepy! Think he's erected the candle/photo shrine yet?

Anyway, I can make it so easy to understand that even Chatty Cathy up there can (well, maybe) understand.

1. Watch Gonz's part in Video Days.

2. If you liked what you saw, ask yourself "Could he do that with tight trucks?"

3. If you didn't like what you saw, get the fuck out of skateboarding and kill yourself because you're killing me.

Whew, that was easy!


You are mentally retarded.

An unsolicited attack with no basis usually means I must have hurt you pretty bad some time in the past. That's just sad.

You're an ex-girlfriend, aren't you? You and Lil' Gipper wouldn't be the first to girls to bond over being rejected by me!

 "JULIEN STRANGER OLLIE HIGH WITH BAD BOARD".
hahahahahaha
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: very_undude on June 27, 2011, 01:55:49 PM
there are benefits to tight trucks?
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Grubby Mits on June 27, 2011, 03:38:14 PM
My silver (i know...) bushings were messed up and made my truck loosen to the point o them coming apart so i had to learn to skate really tight, even thought i used to skate super loose. Now i've got some bones bushings i still ride it pretty tight and seem to tighten it a little every now and again, still scared they are coming apart haha.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: vince the stud on June 28, 2011, 06:53:01 AM
Matt Rodriguez talks about loose trucks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge7SX6YR_04#)
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: InternetDaddy on June 28, 2011, 08:59:41 AM
Matt Rodriguez talks about loose trucks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge7SX6YR_04#)
was it just me, or did the nose and tail of his board look super square in that video?
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: pica on June 28, 2011, 09:07:35 AM
Matt Rodriguez talks about loose trucks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge7SX6YR_04#)
was it just me, or did the nose and tail of his board look super square in that video?
nope, i was thinking the same.
wanted to make a post about his earlier, didn't found it mention worth, just to mention it anyway.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Bitter on June 28, 2011, 10:23:35 AM
In a Thrasher, I think it was Marc Johnson, said "if you can't turn, you can't skate".

Found the actual quote - "Bushings are the most important part of the board. If you can't turn, you can't skate."
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Kab on June 28, 2011, 11:54:23 AM
I skate mine about as loose as I can get them. I actually have two busted bushings right now but I'm scared to replace them because I know I won't be able to get them loose enough. The WORST feeling on a skateboard is having trucks you can't fucking turn with, I feel like I'm gonna fall off the board if my trucks aren't right.

I need to either find some real soft bushings or go the Daewon route and start shaving my bushings down a bit so I can have the nut fully on but still have them loose to my liking.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: vegan*shawn on June 28, 2011, 12:02:13 PM
That is one of his pro models it has a square nose.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: bumpnrun on June 28, 2011, 02:05:46 PM
I got my first board when I was in grade 6 and scooted around my neighbourhood with a departments store piece of crap.  When I got my first pro model board, everyone kept saying that all the good skaters had tight trucks (this probably first came about because a) it was 88 and b) ramp skating was the shit back then).  I wanted to be a good skater so I cranked them down.  Totally sucked.  Went back to a tightness I was comfortable with.

Now, almost 23 years later, I like my indy's somewhat loose.  Pretty much 1 or 1.5 full twists tighter from stock, orange bushings.

Everyone has a tightness they are comfortable with.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: formeitscrazylike on June 28, 2011, 02:29:16 PM
i would like to move my bushings over but i'm just not looking forward to changing up my trucks at all. i have such a comfortable ride right now and i got a crooked grind groove that i'm pretty sure i can't crook without

(http://i.imgur.com/HvTDyl.jpg)
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: pica on June 28, 2011, 03:25:44 PM
i would like to move my bushings over but i'm just not looking forward to changing up my trucks at all. i have such a comfortable ride right now and i got a crooked grind groove that i'm pretty sure i can't crook without

(http://i.imgur.com/HvTDyl.jpg)
are you gonna post your "og slap grinded to the axle - truck" in any thread from now on?
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: layzieyez on June 28, 2011, 07:04:44 PM
I skate in a completely straight line.  Tight as fuck is the way.  Crank dat.  Tranny is for fags anyway.  The only kickturning I do is on flat to get to the next obstacle.

Seriously though, I skate theeves without tightening or loosening so I guess that's medium.  I still wheelbite, but I don't have to ticktack and I can ride bowls.  Win win.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: formeitscrazylike on June 29, 2011, 11:36:07 AM
i would like to move my bushings over but i'm just not looking forward to changing up my trucks at all. i have such a comfortable ride right now and i got a crooked grind groove that i'm pretty sure i can't crook without

(http://i.imgur.com/HvTDyl.jpg)
are you gonna post your "og slap grinded to the axle - truck" in any thread from now on?

you following my posts? i didn't know i had a fan base.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: JustHeshingAround on June 29, 2011, 12:08:14 PM
I ride em tight, speed wobbles can suck my dick, besides, I dont need to bring a tool to tighten when I bomb a hill
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: pica on June 29, 2011, 12:10:10 PM
i would like to move my bushings over but i'm just not looking forward to changing up my trucks at all. i have such a comfortable ride right now and i got a crooked grind groove that i'm pretty sure i can't crook without

(http://i.imgur.com/HvTDyl.jpg)
are you gonna post your "og slap grinded to the axle - truck" in any thread from now on?

you following my posts? i didn't know i had a fan base.
it ain't a fan base. it's an control organisation.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: eranka on June 29, 2011, 01:45:40 PM
I ride em tight, speed wobbles can suck my dick, besides, I dont need to bring a tool to tighten when I bomb a hill
you tighten your trucks before you bomb a hill?
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: JustHeshingAround on June 29, 2011, 01:49:29 PM
I ride em tight, speed wobbles can suck my dick, besides, I dont need to bring a tool to tighten when I bomb a hill
you tighten your trucks before you bomb a hill?
not me, I keep them tight, but I know about people who do because they keep theirs super loose
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Isaiah Kemp on June 29, 2011, 04:37:23 PM
Bombing a hill with tight trucks sounds boring.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on June 29, 2011, 05:07:20 PM
^ You ain't bombing the right kind of hills. Once you skate the gnarly ones the goal is just to maintain that straight line.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Isaiah Kemp on June 29, 2011, 05:14:07 PM
Probably. I live in flat-as-hell Texas.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: formeitscrazylike on June 29, 2011, 05:28:10 PM
i would like to move my bushings over but i'm just not looking forward to changing up my trucks at all. i have such a comfortable ride right now and i got a crooked grind groove that i'm pretty sure i can't crook without

[img]http://i.imgur.com/HvTDyl.jpg[/i
are you gonna post your "og slap grinded to the axle - truck" in any thread from now on?

you following my posts? i didn't know i had a fan base.
it ain't a fan base. it's an control organisation.

sounds official
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: vegan*shawn on June 29, 2011, 05:44:33 PM
The worst speed wobbles I ever got where riding tight trucks.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: aojiru on July 01, 2011, 07:15:17 PM
Sort of medium loose? Bones mediums in Thunder 147 His w/o the bottom washer and nut almost flush w/ the top of the kingpin.

Tried to switch to Bones soft bushings and that was ridiculously unstable and squirrely.  Props for Daewon for being able to do what he does with his front truck all over the place like it is.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Dandy on July 02, 2011, 03:47:19 AM
The worst speed wobbles I ever got where riding tight trucks.
You must be really fat.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: kevbo999 on July 02, 2011, 04:25:17 AM
Loose trucks have saved me from getting run over.. though setting up for tricks with them super loose is just annoying.  I like to be in the middle.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: NowhereInLife on July 02, 2011, 11:04:48 AM
i will tighten a quarter turn if i'm over caffeinated.  loose, but not it jiggles when i pick it up loose.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: dickie ickies on July 04, 2011, 09:55:13 PM
Skating with washers and no top bushing you weenies!

Me  too.

Advantages: Training! Not taking "control" or pop for granted! Revamping style and technique.

Disadvantages: Pushing like an 8 year old. Losing all your tricks. Losing pop (I am of the superstition that that's actually true).
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: NickDagger on July 05, 2011, 05:37:14 AM
Anyone tried Theeve trucks?
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on July 05, 2011, 10:07:34 AM
Loose trucks have saved me from getting run over.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Cold Pizza on July 05, 2011, 12:21:25 PM
Loose trucks have saved me from getting run over.
What the fuck are you talking about?

I'd guess skating through the street and swerving away from a car at the last second.  I've seen friends who ride much tighter trucks have to run off their boards and see them get run over.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: TFUCKINA on July 05, 2011, 12:53:43 PM
bombing hills with ventures shouldant be allowed.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: The Twilight Zone on July 05, 2011, 01:03:06 PM
bombing hills with ventures shouldant be allowed.

westgate is an exception though
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on July 05, 2011, 01:30:39 PM
Loose trucks have saved me from getting run over.
What the fuck are you talking about?

I'd guess skating through the street and swerving away from a car at the last second.  I've seen friends who ride much tighter trucks have to run off their boards and see them get run over.
That actually makes sense. I feel like people are attributing shit to loose trucks that ain't right though. Like "Loose trucks cured my herpes, everytime I tighten them down I get an outbreak"

bombing hills with ventures shouldant be allowed.
There is no valid reason to not bomb hills.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Tuna on July 05, 2011, 01:37:10 PM
Loose trucks have saved me from getting run over.
What the fuck are you talking about?

I'd guess skating through the street and swerving away from a car at the last second.  I've seen friends who ride much tighter trucks have to run off their boards and see them get run over.
That actually makes sense. I feel like people are attributing shit to loose trucks that ain't right though. Like "Loose trucks cured my herpes, everytime I tighten them down I get an outbreak"

bombing hills with ventures shouldant be allowed.
There is no valid reason to not bomb hills.

molten lava spill?
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on July 05, 2011, 01:46:06 PM
What your going to stay on the top of the hill when there's lava in the area? I say straightline it and get the fuck out of there.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: TFUCKINA on July 05, 2011, 01:50:07 PM
bombing hills with ventures shouldant be allowed.

westgate is an exception though

true that, he could bomb a hill on z rollers and i'd watch it.
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: formeitscrazylike on July 05, 2011, 01:56:10 PM
i love that split second in time when you're bombing a hill and you decide: "i'm going too fast to powerslide at this point, the end of the hill isn't that far away, no choice but to point this shit and hope for the best"
Title: Re: Benefits of Tight Trucks VS. Loose Trucks
Post by: bandini on July 07, 2011, 02:43:24 PM
well, got some new indys the other day & was thinking of this thread because for the 1st time I was having a hellofa time getting them as loose as I like without the nut falling off. Tried using my old bushings but same deal - something about stage 10s maybe? (these were my 1st) but ended up removing the top washer & now it's good. Kinda weird to have that trouble with new trucks tho.