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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: HATE! on March 19, 2012, 03:36:56 PM
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Another excellent interview in Jenkem and Strickland is keeping it real as fuck. Love it when people go no holds barred and speak honestly.
http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2012/03/19/hijinx-with-j-strickland/ (http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2012/03/19/hijinx-with-j-strickland/)
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Can't wait to read this. I'm work and the site is blocked >:(
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"I need $10,000 for the footage, or I?m gonna throw it in the river"
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Damn Jenkem is killin it so hard. It's so refreshing hearing someone SPEAK THEIR FUCKING MIND too. I'm stoked to see what's gonna come with LE also, I think they're off to a good start, and started for the right reasons. Fun not money.
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So very conflicted , love the boss , but seems dude fucked Strickland over so bad ...
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I like J, but when he spoke at the end about LE and how he hopes it does super well but he just wants to be on the outside kind of sounds like he's setting himself up to be pissed at those dudes if they move to a different thing but keep using the same branding style. Kind of like Baker, without the rumored backstabbing Boss stuff.
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I picture him as that crazy metal dude'doyaknowwhatimean' right before mcdermotts part in supper's ready. Awesome and kinda insane. I do love his style aesthetically and especially the audio shit, even with the LE promo the mood was set so clearly with the minimal sound and timing.
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J strickland is skateboarding's batman.
reynolds is the hero the kids want, but J is the hero they need.
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I appreciate the honesty but this drama is over 10 years old. The logo is good, we get it. Lotta companies had cool logos and didn't make it. Get over it. Andrew Reynolds sells boards. Not that logo. Strickland hasn't done shit down Carlsbad. He has nothing to to with Jim Greco and how he skates. If he was supposed to have a piece of Baker, he should have got it in writing. And I stress 'supposed to.' He should take Reynolds to court if he was so wronged. Bootleg had same style logo, same derelict image, same ads, same editing... and it didn't last. And now he is taking the same retread approach to LE.
I love Baker 2G. In my top 3. Iconic video. Great music, different (for then) look, but the skating is why kids wore the tape out. Not the elephants. If you are such a visionary, do something new.
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I appreciate the honesty but this drama is over 10 years old. The logo is good, we get it. Lotta companies had cool logos and didn't make it. Get over it. Andrew Reynolds sells boards. Not that logo. Strickland hasn't done shit down Carlsbad. He has nothing to to with Jim Greco and how he skates. If he was supposed to have a piece of Baker, he should have got it in writing. And I stress 'supposed to.' He should take Reynolds to court if he was so wronged. Bootleg had same style logo, same derelict image, same ads, same editing... and it didn't last. And now he is taking the same retread approach to LE.
I love Baker 2G. In my top 3. Iconic video. Great music, different (for then) look, but the skating is why kids wore the tape out. Not the elephants. If you are such a visionary, do something new.
oh come on.
i really doubt J is calling these people and asking them to interview him. he did one of the most influential things in skateboarding since jamie's welcome to hell part, and it's obviously still relevant. saying "get over it" holds a weak argument.
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yeah you gotta give J some credit. baker3 probably had better skating but ill always like baker2g 100 times more. i was kinda hoping the shake junt video would fill the void baker3 left, but it was worse
Baker Skateboards Bootleg 3000 Promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTB77W-jVPY#)
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He didn't turn down the interview either. It's a cool website but it's not exactly Thrasher yet. None of the major outlets want to hear the same sob story. Maybe instead of 'get over it' the theme should be 'move on.' The look and feel of Baker was fresh and new in 2000. I watched it a million times. But the reason it is the success it is can't be denied. The skating. Strickland is talented. I hope he has success. But when he goes through this same song and dance every time someone speaks to him, I don't think it's a weak arguement to say get over it or move on.
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None of the major outlets want to hear the same sob story. Maybe instead of 'get over it' the theme should be 'move on.'
Yeah... That sucks what happened. Theres definitely another side to the story.
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He doesn't give a fuck, I respect him. The whole early period of baker was so sick. The video, the ads, boards, were so awesome.
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Skateboarding needs more people like this guy. Glad he's involved in the industry again. and honestly, I'm starting to like LE. it's really growing on me.
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Fuck that was great.
Regardless of anyone's opinion about the business stuff, Strix is the shit! We skated until we were hurting during Mardi Gras, dude's nice as fuck and a creative machine.
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None of the major outlets want to hear the same sob story. Maybe instead of 'get over it' the theme should be 'move on.'
Yeah... That sucks what happened. Theres definitely another side to the story.
i think that's part of why everybody is interested in the story. reynolds and co. won't talk about it on their own, and any of the big magazines wouldn't dare ask him. aside from boil the ocean, YWS, jenkem, and others, skateboarding is so incestuous they wouldn't dare do something like ask the other side about it. the only other outlet that asks anything considered a "tough" question is epicly later'd, and reynolds is o'dell's boss. that shit ain't happening any time soon.
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None of the major outlets want to hear the same sob story. Maybe instead of 'get over it' the theme should be 'move on.'
Yeah... That sucks what happened. Theres definitely another side to the story.
i think that's part of why everybody is interested in the story. reynolds and co. won't talk about it on their own, and any of the big magazines wouldn't dare ask him. aside from boil the ocean, YWS, jenkem, and others, skateboarding is so incestuous they wouldn't dare do something like ask the other side about it. the only other outlet that asks anything considered a "tough" question is epicly later'd, and reynolds is o'dell's boss. that shit ain't happening any time soon.
It's the same story over and over. Though I keep reading them. I agree with you about the media. I love Epicly Laterd but O'Dell is not going to ask any rough stuff. In the Antwuan episodes, he was pretty sheepish when he tried asking Reynolds about the Baker image promoting substance abuse. He backed right off after Andrew gave the kinda BS answer. Just like this Danny Way doc won't go into the Josh Swindell stuff.
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. aside from boil the ocean, YWS, jenkem, and others, skateboarding is so incestuous they wouldn't dare do something like ask the other side about it. the only other outlet that asks anything considered a "tough" question is epicly later'd, and reynolds is o'dell's boss. that shit ain't happening any time soon.
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To be fair to O'Dell and the main 'outlets,' Jenkem didn't really ask Strickland any tough questions either. It just gave him a forum to rant. I liked it.
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yeah you gotta give J some credit. baker3 probably had better skating but ill always like baker2g 100 times more. i was kinda hoping the shake junt video would fill the void baker3 left, but it was worse
Baker Skateboards Bootleg 3000 Promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTB77W-jVPY#)
i have this on VHS. it came in an order from active mailorder. it's a 5 minute tape and it confused the fuck out of me when i was younger.
it's probably gonna be worth some dough someday
HALLAH AT ME.
Does someone have a link to his BOOTLEG SIDE B REMIX part? Holy shit that was dope.
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. aside from boil the ocean, YWS, jenkem, and others, skateboarding is so incestuous they wouldn't dare do something like ask the other side about it. the only other outlet that asks anything considered a "tough" question is epicly later'd, and reynolds is o'dell's boss. that shit ain't happening any time soon.
To be fair to O'Dell and the main 'outlets,' Jenkem didn't really ask Strickland any tough questions either. It just gave him a forum to rant. I liked it.
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yeah, you're right. i guess what i failed to say is that reynolds is never going to interview with someone like YWS or jenkem because they WILL ask about stuff like that. the j strickland side is the only side we'll get, because it's been ignored by the other side for so long they can't really deny it without it coming off as complete bullshit.
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I appreciate the honesty but this drama is over 10 years old. The logo is good, we get it. Lotta companies had cool logos and didn't make it. Get over it. Andrew Reynolds sells boards. Not that logo. Strickland hasn't done shit down Carlsbad. He has nothing to to with Jim Greco and how he skates. If he was supposed to have a piece of Baker, he should have got it in writing. And I stress 'supposed to.' He should take Reynolds to court if he was so wronged. Bootleg had same style logo, same derelict image, same ads, same editing... and it didn't last. And now he is taking the same retread approach to LE.
I love Baker 2G. In my top 3. Iconic video. Great music, different (for then) look, but the skating is why kids wore the tape out. Not the elephants. If you are such a visionary, do something new.
this. j. strickland seems like a cool dude in that video, but there is no denying that baker's success comes through them ripping the fuck out of shit. i understand that it is really fucked up how he got screwed over, but the company image isn't what is selling the company. little kids don't give a fuck about ad layouts, video editing and lifestyle footage, they care about dudes (and women) doing gnarly shit and that is exactly what baker provides. at the end of the day, i feel bad if this dude legitimately got fucked over, but i really think the skating of the baker dudes is what sells the company at the end of the day. also, i don't understand how this dude is mad as fuck about not getting any credit for his "dues" and then he talks shit about shane heyl getting a board...
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Of course the skating is what matters most, but you're a damn fool if you think image doesn't matter. Baker is one of the most image conscious brands in the industry. Weed graphics sell. Hijinks sell. Stupidity sells. If the success of a company only depended on the skating Bootleg would still be around on the strength of this part alone:
Scott Kane (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmjocOBMMVc#)
If only the skateboarding mattered then every kid at your local park should know who every person on Think is, but I assure you they do not.
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I appreciate the honesty but this drama is over 10 years old. The logo is good, we get it. Lotta companies had cool logos and didn't make it. Get over it. Andrew Reynolds sells boards. Not that logo. Strickland hasn't done shit down Carlsbad. He has nothing to to with Jim Greco and how he skates. If he was supposed to have a piece of Baker, he should have got it in writing. And I stress 'supposed to.' He should take Reynolds to court if he was so wronged. Bootleg had same style logo, same derelict image, same ads, same editing... and it didn't last. And now he is taking the same retread approach to LE.
business should be settled based on what you can do down the carlsbad gap? for the whole "take him to court" thing...you have any idea how expensive that is? do you really think that two friends that create a skateboard company in the late 90s were putting shit in writing? go read http://www.48blocks.com/gershon/ (http://www.48blocks.com/gershon/) for some more interesting stories about "the boss"
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If I will ever do art, I want to do it like J does.
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"Like when I look at Baker now, it?s like, I never wanted Baker to be that big. It was supposed to just be the illest dudes and now it?s like, Shane Heyl is pro for Baker.. "
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yeah you gotta give J some credit. baker3 probably had better skating but ill always like baker2g 100 times more. i was kinda hoping the shake junt video would fill the void baker3 left, but it was worse
Baker Skateboards Bootleg 3000 Promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTB77W-jVPY#)
i have this on VHS. it came in an order from active mailorder. it's a 5 minute tape and it confused the fuck out of me when i was younger.
it's probably gonna be worth some dough someday
thats awesome. i always wondered how they released it. i think i found it on irc the first time i saw it
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yeah you gotta give J some credit. baker3 probably had better skating but ill always like baker2g 100 times more. i was kinda hoping the shake junt video would fill the void baker3 left, but it was worse
Baker Skateboards Bootleg 3000 Promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTB77W-jVPY#)
i have this on VHS. it came in an order from active mailorder. it's a 5 minute tape and it confused the fuck out of me when i was younger.
it's probably gonna be worth some dough someday
thats awesome. i always wondered how they released it. i think i found it on irc the first time i saw it
They also had that promo in the Baker summer tour 2001.
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J Strickland is full of shit.
He quit Baker cause Andrew/Jim/Eric wouldn't pay him the $80,000 a year he demanded.
He was an Art Director/Team Manager. And if they paid him that much (far more than any of the pros were getting)
the company would have gone out of business.
Not only that, he was art directing for Baker, and then started Bootleg on the side, which Andrew/Jim/Erik/Dusin had
no ownership over. He basically worked for one company and then formed a competitor using the same art and graphics,
thus hurting Baker when kids bought a Bootleg board instead. But Jay got paid from both brands.
Any company in the world would fire you for that. But he didn't even get fired, he quit. (I believe he was caught stealing as well)
He is a double dipping, leaching, con-man.
If you look at the Baker/Deathwish roster you can see that Andrew etc is loyal. They haven't kicked any of their long term riders off.
And they are always hooking up more and more people.
When you design a Spitfire flame you don't get to own Spitfire, when you design an Indy cross, you don't own Indy.
But when you put your neck on the line and invest all your money into starting a brand, you own the company, which is what Andrew did.
end rant. 8)
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J Strickland is full of shit.?
He quit Baker cause Andrew/Jim/Eric wouldn't pay him the $80,000 a year he demanded.?
He was an Art Director/Team Manager.? And if they paid him that much (far more than any of the pros were getting)
the company would have gone out of business.?
Not only that, he was art directing for Baker, and then started Bootleg on the side, which Andrew/Jim/Erik/Dusin had
no ownership over.? He basically worked for one company and then formed a competitor using the same art and graphics,
thus hurting Baker when kids bought a Bootleg board instead.? But Jay got paid from both brands.
Any company in the world would fire you for that.? But he didn't even get fired, he quit.? (I believe he was caught stealing as well)
He is a double dipping, leaching, con-man.
If you look at the Baker/Deathwish roster you can see that Andrew etc is loyal.? They haven't kicked any of their long term riders off.?
And they are always hooking up more and more people.?
When you design a Spitfire flame you don't get to own Spitfire, when you design an Indy cross, you don't own Indy.?
But when you put your neck on the line and invest all your money into starting a brand, you own the company, which is what Andrew did.
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This is right on from what ive heard.
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J Strickland is full of shit.
He quit Baker cause Andrew/Jim/Eric wouldn't pay him the $80,000 a year he demanded.
He was an Art Director/Team Manager. And if they paid him that much (far more than any of the pros were getting)
the company would have gone out of business.
Not only that, he was art directing for Baker, and then started Bootleg on the side, which Andrew/Jim/Erik/Dusin had
no ownership over. He basically worked for one company and then formed a competitor using the same art and graphics,
thus hurting Baker when kids bought a Bootleg board instead. But Jay got paid from both brands.
Any company in the world would fire you for that. But he didn't even get fired, he quit. (I believe he was caught stealing as well)
He is a double dipping, leaching, con-man.
If you look at the Baker/Deathwish roster you can see that Andrew etc is loyal. They haven't kicked any of their long term riders off.
And they are always hooking up more and more people.
When you design a Spitfire flame you don't get to own Spitfire, when you design an Indy cross, you don't own Indy.
But when you put your neck on the line and invest all your money into starting a brand, you own the company, which is what Andrew did.
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So Bootleg wasn't intended to be the Chocolate of Basker skateboards like Strickland claims in the interview? Was it a move Andrew and co. were not cool with?
If it wasn't, doesn't Strickland own the rights to his designs to take them elsewhere and start a brand where he has full control? It sounds sketchy from both sides anyway.
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Status Update = Brad Hayes
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I get voted down for dropping a truth bomb?
Let's see if Jay denies anything I stated.
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yeah you gotta give J some credit. baker3 probably had better skating but ill always like baker2g 100 times more. i was kinda hoping the shake junt video would fill the void baker3 left, but it was worse
Baker Skateboards Bootleg 3000 Promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTB77W-jVPY#)
i have this on VHS. �it came in an order from active mailorder. �it's a 5 minute tape and it confused the fuck out of me when i was younger.
it's probably gonna be worth some dough someday
thats awesome. i always wondered how they released it. i think i found it on irc the first time i saw it
They also had that promo in the Baker summer tour 2001.
I still have that on VHS. I still watch it sometimes.
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J Strickland is full of shit.
He quit Baker cause Andrew/Jim/Eric wouldn't pay him the $80,000 a year he demanded.
He was an Art Director/Team Manager. And if they paid him that much (far more than any of the pros were getting)
the company would have gone out of business.
Not only that, he was art directing for Baker, and then started Bootleg on the side, which Andrew/Jim/Erik/Dusin had
no ownership over. He basically worked for one company and then formed a competitor using the same art and graphics,
thus hurting Baker when kids bought a Bootleg board instead. But Jay got paid from both brands.
Any company in the world would fire you for that. But he didn't even get fired, he quit. (I believe he was caught stealing as well)
He is a double dipping, leaching, con-man.
If you look at the Baker/Deathwish roster you can see that Andrew etc is loyal. They haven't kicked any of their long term riders off.
And they are always hooking up more and more people.
When you design a Spitfire flame you don't get to own Spitfire, when you design an Indy cross, you don't own Indy.
But when you put your neck on the line and invest all your money into starting a brand, you own the company, which is what Andrew did.
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You say that like Strickland didn't put his money on the line when he started the company with Reynolds. I know nobody comes out clean in this, but you still need to give credit where credit is due. I also know that Reynolds has pretty good reputation in the industry and so I'm more likely to believe his side of the story if he should give it.
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On a somewhat related note if i had a VCR in my possession this would be a fucking steal i'm still considering it, i would junk the b-boy shit in a heartbeat though :P
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CKY3-CKY-1-Shortys-Guilty-Baker-Bootleg-411vm-Poor-Sport-Skate-More-/140726744388?pt=VHS&hash=item20c3f7b544 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/CKY3-CKY-1-Shortys-Guilty-Baker-Bootleg-411vm-Poor-Sport-Skate-More-/140726744388?pt=VHS&hash=item20c3f7b544)
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You say that like Strickland didn't put his money on the line when he started the company with Reynolds. I know nobody comes out clean in this, but you still need to give credit where credit is due. I also know that Reynolds has pretty good reputation in the industry and so I'm more likely to believe his side of the story if he should give it.
Jay didn't. Andrew started the company and Jay was hired as an employee. He tried to swindle his boss, (pun intended) by starting another brand out of NHS, Andrew was slow to notice (due to a partying phase), what the guy he trusted to take care of his company was doing. Jay asked for a raise anyway, got denied, threw a tantrum and quit.
Shane, Erik, and Jim have all been able to happily run brands out of Baker Boys and everything is smooth. Jay and his wannabe Shug Knight attitude got him phased out. As he was with NHS, Zoo York and probably in the future with LE
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It would be really nice if Reynolds would speak on this topic but I doubt that is going to happen. It seems like we have everyone saying something (J Strickland, Status) except Andrew.
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It would be really nice if Reynolds would speak on this topic but I doubt that is going to happen. It seems like we have everyone saying something (J Strickland, Status) except Andrew.
Jenkem, ESPN.com or 48blocks should call Andrew, Erik, Dustin, Shane or Jim and ask for an interview.
So far they have made it their policy to take the high road. But maybe now they will talk since their names are getting dragged through the mud.
Most those guys were all on drugs/drinking hard at the time so it was easy for someone to come in and more or less steal from them.
When they sobered up they took a hard look at the company and knew Jay had to go.
I made this account just because I know that Jay is exaggerating/lying, saw people buying it, and I wanted to share the other perspective.
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did he really say "mad cheese" in real life? (http://board.rapmusic.com/images/smilies/jaydamn.png)
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i think why most people, myself included, are backing (or buying, or whatever you want to call it) J strickland's version of events is because that's the only version that's been offered. nobody at baker has even disputed it. i'm sure what J says isn't the official transcript of what happened, but where's anybody actually saying "that's bullshit, this is what happened." and i'm sorry, if you ARE brad hayes or someone else closely involved with it, it doesn't matter. a user name on slap doesn't really count for credibility. you want your news from CNN, not TMZ you know?
and if anybody says "who cares? go skate" i will rape your face i swear to god. you are on a skateboarding message board you know what we do here.
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who cares? go skate
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i think why most people, myself included, are backing (or buying, or whatever you want to call it) J strickland's version of events is because that's the only version that's been offered. nobody at baker has even disputed it. i'm sure what J says isn't the official transcript of what happened, but where's anybody actually saying "that's bullshit, this is what happened." and i'm sorry, if you ARE brad hayes or someone else closely involved with it, it doesn't matter. a user name on slap doesn't really count for credibility. you want your news from CNN, not TMZ you know?
and if anybody says "who cares? go skate" i will rape your face i swear to god. you are on a skateboarding message board you know what we do here.
fair enough. I offered another version of the events and we'll wait and see if Andrew gets a Chrome Ball interview, or Jay writes a rebuttal. I'm satisfied I aired out what I believe to be the real story. This why anonymous posting was invented, take it or leave it.
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who cares? go skate
i can't rape your face this week, work is busy. what's next week like for you? i'm pretty open after wednesday at, say, 3PM.
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The backstabbing has to do with the fact that J was never given a share of the company as Andrew had promised him and wasn't getting paid what J felt he deserved while on the payroll as TM/Creative Director at Baker, which birthed the brand. Also Per Welinder was pocketing big money behind J's back through projects J introduced him to and wasn't paid for. Whether or not he "deserved" 80 grand a year, J made and put out the Baker Bootleg videos, and that is where you can officially see the birth of what would become Baker Skateboards.
I doubt Reynolds ever meant to fuck J over. It was probably just each party being told by the higher ups at Blitz different things and Reynolds getting caught in the middle and not knowing what to do and putting that off. J saw Reynolds cashing checks and not helping him get a bigger piece of the pie and said fuck this I'm doing my own thing and not through the people who have already been fucking me over.
This is why you get things in writing and cash up front. If J still has the rights to the original videos, he should work out a deal where they re release them on DVD and he can usurp some of the money he feels he's already earned and been owed. Or he should just sue them, see what the law says about it then move the fuck on.
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The backstabbing has to do with the fact that J was never given a share of the company as Andrew had promised him and wasn't getting paid what J felt he deserved while on the payroll as TM/Creative Director at Baker, which birthed the brand. Also Per Welinder was pocketing big money behind J's back through projects J introduced him to and wasn't paid for. Whether or not he "deserved" 80 grand a year, J made and put out the Baker Bootleg videos, and that is where you can officially see the birth of what would become Baker Skateboards.
I doubt Reynolds ever meant to fuck J over. It was probably just each party being told by the higher ups at Blitz different things and Reynolds getting caught in the middle and not knowing what to do and putting that off. J saw Reynolds cashing checks and not helping him get a bigger piece of the pie and said fuck this I'm doing my own thing and not through the people who have already been fucking me over.
This is why you get things in writing and cash up front. If J still has the rights to the original videos, he should work out a deal where they re release them on DVD and he can usurp some of the money he feels he's already earned and been owed. Or he should just sue them, see what the law says about it then move the fuck on.
lawyer: objection, your honor.....speculation.
judge: sustained, the jury will ignore the comments made by the witness.
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Someone sell me their copy of the Baker Promo/Baker Summer Tour 2001 or Baker Bootleg. THX
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jay is a super nice dude, with great talent and motivation, but his story seems exaggerated and bitter. no matter what reynolds/ellington/greco did around 2001 was going to be at the top of every kids christmas list. the skaters on baker made baker what it is at then end of the day.
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yeah you gotta give J some credit. baker3 probably had better skating but ill always like baker2g 100 times more. i was kinda hoping the shake junt video would fill the void baker3 left, but it was worse
Baker Skateboards Bootleg 3000 Promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTB77W-jVPY#)
i have this on VHS. it came in an order from active mailorder. it's a 5 minute tape and it confused the fuck out of me when i was younger.
it's probably gonna be worth some dough someday
HALLAH AT ME.
Does someone have a link to his BOOTLEG SIDE B REMIX part? Holy shit that was dope.
If you want I have the side B remix and the bootleg east coastin tour video. I could throw them up on youtube or something...I know maldonado and tony mont's footy from the side b remix are already on there.
and all this talk is beating a dead horse...pretty sure strickland laid it all out on here like 4 years ago when he was posting as OG.
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I like how he made Jeremy Klein relavent.....
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brad hayes is the fucking shit free max b
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i can't rape your face this week, work is busy. what's next week like for you? i'm pretty open after wednesday at, say, 3PM.
i am pretty open all day. 3PM, your local zumiez, 2nd changing room from the left.
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god i hope that's brad hayes
half cab feeble 180 is fucking sick
my favorite trick in Baker 2G.
that song was so good too.
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i can't rape your face this week, work is busy. what's next week like for you? i'm pretty open after wednesday at, say, 3PM.
i am pretty open all day. 3PM, your local zumiez, 2nd changing room from the left.
whose left?
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This doesn't have to do with the drama, but did J do that weird music for the promos and other random shit? For example, like the music that starts playing at 2:10 in the LE promo. It's stuck in my head.
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This doesn't have to do with the drama, but did J do that weird music for the promos and other random shit? For example, like the music that starts playing at 2:10 in the LE promo. It's stuck in my head.
It's a slowed dubstep track
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This doesn't have to do with the drama, but did J do that weird music for the promos and other random shit? For example, like the music that starts playing at 2:10 in the LE promo. It's stuck in my head.
It's a slowed dubstep track
whatever it is, it's fuckin awful.
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Saying Strickland had nothing to do with Baker doing well is sorta like saying Rocco had nothing to do with World doing well. Not 100% the same, but definitely in the same ballpark.
This.
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having read all of this and both 48 blocks and jenkem interviews- the deathwish logo and LE logo look super similar IMO.
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having read all of this and both 48 blocks and jenkem interviews- the deathwish logo and LE logo look super similar IMO.
Fos did the deathwish logo. the written font that is
Yep, the logo is a version of the one that gang uses in the Bronson flick - as been pointed already in several threads.
(http://abortionsforall.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/deathwish3-1.jpg)
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I am really surprised that no one has talked about J stealing the font and logo from these two whiskey companies.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Bookers.JPG/250px-Bookers.JPG)
(http://www.beveragewarehouse.com/images/products/1249.jpg)
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I am really surprised that no one has talked about J stealing the font and logo from these two whiskey companies.
Maybe that's because he already talked about it.
[...] the font is actually just impact font but I hand traced it with a sharpie, so it's a little off.
(http://www.graphic-design.com/Type/2011/hated_fonts/impact.jpg)
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Weed graphics sell. Hijinks sell. Stupidity sells.
And if the occasional leading light impacts against the windscreen of irresponsibility, why that's nobody's fault whatsoever.
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I am really surprised that no one has talked about J stealing the font and logo from these two whiskey companies.
Maybe that's because he already talked about it.
[...] the font is actually just impact font but I hand traced it with a sharpie, so it's a little off.
(http://www.graphic-design.com/Type/2011/hated_fonts/impact.jpg)
Yeah, but the names of the companies.
Baker's = Baker
Booker's = Bootleg
and the B is exactly the same.
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I am really surprised that no one has talked about J stealing the font and logo from these two whiskey companies.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Bookers.JPG/250px-Bookers.JPG)
(http://www.beveragewarehouse.com/images/products/1249.jpg)
Holy shit, I remember seeing this bottle when I was like 10, but never could find it again.
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I am really surprised that no one has talked about J stealing the font and logo from these two whiskey companies.
Maybe that's because he already talked about it.
[...] the font is actually just impact font but I hand traced it with a sharpie, so it's a little off.
Yeah, but the names of the companies.
Baker's = Baker
Booker's = Bootleg
and the B is exactly the same.
As far as I remember BAKER was Ali Boulala's nickname in the Pissdrunks years and they decided to name the brand after him.
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Someone sell me their copy of the Baker Promo/Baker Summer Tour 2001 or Baker Bootleg. THX
I bought Big Brother's actual VHS copy of Baker Bootleg from Sean Cliver over eBay several years ago. It's in an oversized porno VHS box, spray painted over with red paint, with the photocopied label glued on. Sticker on the back addressed to Larry Flynt's offices. Always thought it's a cool bit of skate memorabilia.
(http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/baker-bootleg-original-release.jpg)
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Someone sell me their copy of the Baker Promo/Baker Summer Tour 2001 or Baker Bootleg. THX
(http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/baker-bootleg-original-release.jpg)
that's amazing. i believe i had that exact copy at my house for a minute. pat canale had borrowed it from cliver then cliver wanted it back. rad piece of memorabilia for sure. J. hooked up all those Vivid boxes to save money through the porn connect he had established after getting the girls for heath and jeremy's part in the end.
strickland was the heart and soul of baker. he built it around the strengths of the riders to be sure. but it was his vision. it has nothing to do with a font or a name. those are tiny details. without J. none of it would have happened.
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So, c'mon already. Who's gonna sit Andrew & J down & let them yell and cry and hug it out and finally leave as homies once more? It'll be a healing moment. I'm thinking Jerry Springer, maybe...
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Maybe at the time none of those two thought about written agreements. So the thing is as it is!
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J Strickland=Real Talk
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wasn't shane heyl team manager for bootleg skateboards??
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i space on all skateboarding news for a while and i come to find out life extention is my new favorite brand due to j strickland.
what the hell is going on!! :o :o