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Title: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: jimi420 on April 05, 2012, 09:50:01 AM
Looks like the Baker rumors are true.
http://theberrics.com/bangin/riley-hawk.html (http://theberrics.com/bangin/riley-hawk.html)
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: Patey on April 05, 2012, 09:55:27 AM
thankfully baker has the most easily recognizable board graphics in the game
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Post by: sprayTAN101 on April 05, 2012, 09:56:08 AM
rebirth of heelflip crooks
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: SteamyRayVaughan on April 05, 2012, 10:09:49 AM
goddamn i'm sick of seeing shake junt griptape
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: Zurg on April 05, 2012, 10:21:30 AM
meh
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: Unbridled Technical Precision on April 05, 2012, 11:01:08 AM
does dis dude like to ride his board backwards???????
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: pile on April 05, 2012, 11:07:19 AM
the move to baker, good for him. shake junt though, a company based upon exploiting black stereotypes, run by white guys, should fuck off already.
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: TheDraught on April 05, 2012, 12:48:43 PM
Dude skates exactly like his dad. Tech, but no style.

Bs nbs was sick though.
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: Bagger Vance on April 05, 2012, 01:01:37 PM
never really been too into his footage but that back noseblunt was tight
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: BarcelonaCEO on April 05, 2012, 01:10:33 PM
that was actually one of the best bangin ever, cool that he changed his trick selection since that lakai am video
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: Chron Artest on April 05, 2012, 01:17:26 PM
always down to see long back nose blunts!
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: Patey on April 05, 2012, 01:31:16 PM
hmm he doesnt seem to skate switch very much.

i thought it was decent, though
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: MEW-TWO on April 05, 2012, 01:34:40 PM
Dude skates exactly like his dad. Tech, but no style.

Bs nbs was sick though.
No style?
I beg to differ
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: mongomaestro on April 05, 2012, 01:54:52 PM
riley > grecs
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: oneshovel on April 05, 2012, 02:04:45 PM
He's getting super good super fast.  No sense comparing him to his dad or Greco or anyone.  Also I'm glad he doesn't skate much switch, fuck switch, why waste time learning it both ways instead of bigger and better one way.
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: tortfeasor on April 05, 2012, 02:30:01 PM
banging was sick
but holy shit did anyone else get that absurd dgk commerical with the nollie varial heel(?) to 5-0
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: pile on April 05, 2012, 03:08:52 PM
Shane is not exploiting black stereotypes you person

any black slap pals out there willing to comment?
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: victor333 on April 05, 2012, 03:09:01 PM
obviously all filmed in the same day, really well rounded and unique.� Riley's sick, birdman's son or not.

^^Shane is not exploiting black stereotypes you person, he's just being the kick ass, wild, crazy nut, reformed meth head, he actually is.�

And it's sad people are buying his bullshit.
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: Kristi Yamaguchi on April 05, 2012, 03:16:31 PM
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I don't see how they're "exploiting" anything. Shane and Beagle seem to genuinely be into all that shit. Last time I checked they've been doing this same kind of stuff for over a decade. It's just that now they have a company based around it.
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: LOU.502 on April 05, 2012, 03:20:09 PM
goddamn i'm sick of seeing shake junt griptape
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: nino brown on April 05, 2012, 03:43:36 PM
i knew what shake junt was before shanes lame ass, fuck shake junt as a company its fucking super played
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: DMH on April 05, 2012, 03:48:03 PM
May not have been the best Bangin' ever, but, as far as I'm concerned, that was the best footage he's put out so far. He's definitely getting better.
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: tortfeasor on April 05, 2012, 03:50:03 PM
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im not black but it  does come off as a 'Minstrel Show'
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: ThirtyYearsYoung on April 05, 2012, 05:08:03 PM
That was the first one of those "Bangin'" clips I've watched. Holy shit that sound effect they use every time he does a trick is annoying. Do they do that in all of them?
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: skateboardnorth on April 05, 2012, 05:27:15 PM
That was the first one of those "Bangin'" clips I've watched. Holy shit that sound effect they use every time he does a trick is annoying. Do they do that in all of them?
It's caused by the type of slow-mo they use.  And yes pretty much every one is like that.
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: jimi420 on April 05, 2012, 07:07:30 PM
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most blacks exploit the stereotypes themselves.
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: BraveUlysses on April 05, 2012, 07:17:12 PM
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I don't have an opinion on this but if I did it would be the most valid due to the fact that I'm black.
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: mongomaestro on April 05, 2012, 07:46:37 PM
actually braveullysses, that would mean your opinion is tainted.      :-*
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: Tyroneshoelaces on April 05, 2012, 08:17:42 PM
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no. anyone who thinks they are exploiting black stereotypes is probably white.  i thought having fun with your friends was an everybody stereotype.


also, that was a really good clip.  he's getting better and better.
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: DaSk8D00D on April 05, 2012, 08:49:54 PM
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ehh, not really too bothered by it. it can certainly look that way if you try to put it in that perspective but at the same time the whole Shake Junt/BakerBoys family seems to be a tight one and it seems like everybody is satisfied and cool with each other. i wouldnt call it exploitation if everybodys happy. it aint like shane heyl is some suitwearing prick, he definitely fits in with the shake junt image
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: tortfeasor on April 05, 2012, 09:33:38 PM
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ehh, not really too bothered by it. it can certainly look that way if you try to put it in that perspective but at the same time the whole Shake Junt/BakerBoys family seems to be a tight one and it seems like everybody is satisfied and cool with each other. i wouldnt call it exploitation if everybodys happy. it aint like shane heyl is some suitwearing prick, he definitely fits in with the shake junt image


DaSk8D00D is black??
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: pile on April 05, 2012, 09:40:21 PM
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I don't have an opinion on this but if I did it would be the most valid due to the fact that I'm black.
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Great job, Pile.� You turned skateboarding into racism driven bullshit.� So lame.

i feel that the company exploits a racial stereotype and i don't back it, i'm not claiming it's racist, that would be a ridiculous claim. the reason i feel that way is because i have seen people emulating whatever the fuck the shake junt crew did in their latest video and it's not always a great thing. younger kids are obviously intensely impressionable, and i personally, as an advocate for equality amongst everyone, just seem to find it pretty irresponsible of them to promote some of the things they do.

if shane heyl's a reformed crackhead, promoting drinking and smoking weed and shit to kids seems pretty fucking dumb. he's making money off of kids who he might be steering down a similar road of addiction, with the image of his company whether he's aware of it or not. i might just be over reacting, but i don't like seeing the kids around my park abusing racial slurs and stumbling around drunk and fucking high "acting a fool B". i don't know if you're intelligent enough to look at something from more than one perspective darrin lee, so i'll forgive you for your terrible attempt at an argument as well as the claim that i am responsible for "racism driven bullshit".

are you aware of what exploitation is? look it up numb nuts.



Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: DaSk8D00D on April 05, 2012, 09:44:54 PM
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ehh, not really too bothered by it. it can certainly look that way if you try to put it in that perspective but at the same time the whole Shake Junt/BakerBoys family seems to be a tight one and it seems like everybody is satisfied and cool with each other. i wouldnt call it exploitation if everybodys happy. it aint like shane heyl is some suitwearing prick, he definitely fits in with the shake junt image
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DaSk8D00D is black??


im bi-racial and look like obama
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: krewkruxklan on April 05, 2012, 09:51:44 PM
yea the fried chicken, 36 mafia, and the strippers is kind of suspect. i agree, they might not be racist but seeing that im not a part of that click i dont vouch for that shit. the skaters are tight, but their image is weird.

fried chicken wax?? wtf? and they never have fat white bitches, i never understood all that?
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on April 06, 2012, 12:08:34 AM
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ehh, not really too bothered by it. it can certainly look that way if you try to put it in that perspective but at the same time the whole Shake Junt/BakerBoys family seems to be a tight one and it seems like everybody is satisfied and cool with each other. i wouldnt call it exploitation if everybodys happy. it aint like shane heyl is some suitwearing prick, he definitely fits in with the shake junt image
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DaSk8D00D is black??
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im bi-racial and look like obama
If Obama had a son, he would look like DaSk8D00D
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: DaSk8D00D on April 06, 2012, 12:38:36 AM
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ehh, not really too bothered by it. it can certainly look that way if you try to put it in that perspective but at the same time the whole Shake Junt/BakerBoys family seems to be a tight one and it seems like everybody is satisfied and cool with each other. i wouldnt call it exploitation if everybodys happy. it aint like shane heyl is some suitwearing prick, he definitely fits in with the shake junt image
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DaSk8D00D is black??
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im bi-racial and look like obama
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If Obama had a son, he would look like DaSk8D00D

real talk i hear the Obama comparisons all the time. when people ask "you know who you look like?" i already know its coming. its whatever tho, i can make it work

(http://randomgifs.com/images/obama.gif)
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: TONY! on April 06, 2012, 01:26:11 AM
the move to baker, good for him. shake junt though, a company based upon exploiting black stereotypes, run by white guys, should fuck off already.

Dude, shake junt and baker are under the same distribution company
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: jimi420 on April 06, 2012, 07:56:54 AM
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ehh, not really too bothered by it. it can certainly look that way if you try to put it in that perspective but at the same time the whole Shake Junt/BakerBoys family seems to be a tight one and it seems like everybody is satisfied and cool with each other. i wouldnt call it exploitation if everybodys happy. it aint like shane heyl is some suitwearing prick, he definitely fits in with the shake junt image
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DaSk8D00D is black??
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im bi-racial and look like obama
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If Obama had a son, he would look like DaSk8D00D
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real talk i hear the Obama comparisons all the time. when people ask "you know who you look like?" i already know its coming. its whatever tho, i can make it work

(http://randomgifs.com/images/obama.gif)
I usually get black jesus or Waka Flocka.
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: Harem on April 06, 2012, 08:06:28 AM
Anyways....


Riley is sick. Has he always ridden his board backwards? Do other skaters do this?
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: DaSk8D00D on April 06, 2012, 09:42:38 AM
Anyways....


Riley is sick. Has he always ridden his board backwards? Do other skaters do this?

i skate my board backwards about 75% of the time. i just like to pop with the nose cuz its longer
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: AssBandit on April 06, 2012, 09:52:40 AM
the move to baker, good for him. shake junt though, a company based upon exploiting black stereotypes, run by white guys, should fuck off already.
Word
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: Fongstarr. on April 06, 2012, 12:15:21 PM
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Well he does ride for Quicksilver as well. That is as white as you get.
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: Freddie on April 07, 2012, 01:14:36 AM
Riley kills it and is getting better over time. How this conversation turned in to something about race is completely stupid. Make a separate thread if you want to talk about shake junt's shitty gimmick.
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: foureyedjim on April 07, 2012, 03:50:47 AM
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no. anyone who thinks they are exploiting black stereotypes is probably white.  i thought having fun with your friends was an everybody stereotype.


also, that was a really good clip.  he's getting better and better.

If you see the whole baker / deathwish scene as stereotyping blacks, chances are, you have preconceived notions about black people yourself.  But at the same time, I guess I can understand. 

A majority of the people I see repping baker, deathwish, and shakejunt are younger white kids or hipsters that listen to juicy J for teh lulz
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: PsychOut on April 07, 2012, 04:33:16 AM
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Well he does ride for Quicksilver as well. That is as white as you get.

hes also on Altamont Flow
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: LazyEinstein on April 07, 2012, 07:56:22 AM
No Racial stereotyping? Chickenbone nowison is the name of their video, chicken wax. Black people liking chicken and watermelon is a racist stereotype.

Seriously Shake Junt is the most regular scene in skateboarding. Who the fuck wants to watch a bunch of 30 year olds, half with no education, drinking beers, smoking weed, throwing things at each other, and doing other petty stuff.
Oh wait that's right; impressionable 12 year old kids who are uneducated and immature still. Adults letting kids think that acting like this is ok and profiting from it is fucked.

 
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: shit_for_brains on April 07, 2012, 08:22:10 AM
i don't want you guys dragging fried chicken into this. it did nothing wrong.
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: jimi420 on April 07, 2012, 09:08:36 AM
i don't want you guys dragging fried chicken into this. it did nothing wrong.
Dave Chappelle Chicken (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ4B7G8Rw3Q#)
Dave Chappelle - Division in Our Foods and Grape Drink (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--g3PP3dfDo#)
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on April 07, 2012, 01:59:09 PM
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I don't have an opinion on this but if I did it would be the most valid due to the fact that I'm black.
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Great job, Pile.� You turned skateboarding into racism driven bullshit.� So lame.
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i feel that the company exploits a racial stereotype and i don't back it, i'm not claiming it's racist, that would be a ridiculous claim. the reason i feel that way is because i have seen people emulating whatever the fuck the shake junt crew did in their latest video and it's not always a great thing. younger kids are obviously intensely impressionable, and i personally, as an advocate for equality amongst everyone, just seem to find it pretty irresponsible of them to promote some of the things they do.

if shane heyl's a reformed crackhead, promoting drinking and smoking weed and shit to kids seems pretty fucking dumb. he's making money off of kids who he might be steering down a similar road of addiction, with the image of his company whether he's aware of it or not. i might just be over reacting, but i don't like seeing the kids around my park abusing racial slurs and stumbling around drunk and fucking high "acting a fool B". i don't know if you're intelligent enough to look at something from more than one perspective darrin lee, so i'll forgive you for your terrible attempt at an argument as well as the claim that i am responsible for "racism driven bullshit".

are you aware of what exploitation is? look it up numb nuts.




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Young kids are impressionable.  In Antwuan's Epicly Later'd, Shane says:  "Alcoholism kills.  It's a disease and I have it."  If this is not anti substance abuse promotion, I don't know what is.  This was the episode that most clearly revealed the negativity and chaos the abuse is having on Antwuan's career and life.  Drew, Greco and others have all said similar things, even spoke out about trying to get him to clean his act up.  What you're talking about is the false image of drugs being cool and integral and having a fun life, it has absolutely nothing to do with racial stereotypes, it's drugs and alcohol stereotypes.  Drugs and alcohol clearly don't discriminate based on race. 

I'm not trying to be a lame hater, I hardly ever comment on these things because I don't want to get involved in the nonsense.  I'm 28 man, I've skated on and off for about 15 years, have a degree, used to work at a skate mag, just to clear up you thinking I'm some noob kid.  I just really don't like to see the complex topic pigeonholed into a "racial stereotype."  It really has nothing to do with race, it's about drugs.  Yes, some of the past Shake Junt videos did have drug content that could be viewed as portraying them as cool.  In the big picture, however, they've shown an authentic representation of where the "pissdrunk" lifestyle is going to leave you with in reality- a wasted career, in rehab/AA meetings, jail, or worse.

Just because some lame wastoid kids act regular at your park, and perhaps happen to have Shake Junt, this does not in anyway show the company is exploiting racial, or even drug, stereotypes.  I just don't like the race card being thrown in, I don't think it has anything to do with it.

That's all.  Didn't mean to offend.
Shut the fuck up baker fanboy.
You are so fucking regular that it blows my mind. How you could possibly think baker sends an anti-drug message is beyond me. In an episode of epicly later'd a couple of them make points about how alcoholism is bad after being grilled by it, but take no reponsibility for their companies 100% pro-drug image, and almost make it seem like alcoholism is like a virus that you catch by sitting next to an alcoholic on an airplane. Outside of that episode, you never hear them speaking negatively about drugs. They know drugs are profitable, so they sell that fucked up lifestyle to children. Those dudes have been marketing Antwuan as the wildchild from the start, and though they may not have been able to stop, they definitely didn't try, if anything they encouraged the behavior that led to it.

You think they take alcoholism seriously? Explain why they still have footage of Shane and Greco drinking in their newest videos with party music playing despite the fact that both have quit? They sell the image of boozing even after it nearly ruined their lives. That's the opposite of sending an anti-drug message. Instead of showing the real story about how they partied like that until their lives nearly turned to shit, quit, and then were able to actually produce the footage you see in the video part, they play up the party thing and don't show anything bad about it. On top of that you have Neen adds with him smoking joints with speech bubbles that say some shit like "crucial" or "vital" or something, and Ellington ending his parts with "We're gettin' fucked up tonight!" That's not sending a responsible message about drugs at all. The fact that you find a random serious interview with those dudes where they clearly backpedal the fuck out of what they really market and take that over all of their marketing is hillarious.

We can have the discussion of whether or not it is a skateboard company's responsibility to send a positive image, but that is a separate discussion. The fact is, baker and deathwish are the most pro-drug companies in skateboarding today

Of course, you missed the point Pile was making. He wasn't saying alcohol is a black stereotype. However, when you mix malt liquor, fried chicken, pimps, and random images of menthol cigarettes, you are clearly using black stereotypes to sell your brand. Whether people are offended or not is up to them, but let's not pretend its just a coincidence


Oh, and nobody would give a fuck about Riley Hawk if his last name was Smith. Dude is getting hella privilege because of his name. Not his fault, but he'd be on rep flow if he was a random kid from the midwest skating like that.
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: Strike A Pose on April 07, 2012, 04:18:48 PM
baker/shakejunt = minstrel show
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: wisdom teeth on April 07, 2012, 05:21:59 PM
i think shake junt is more about ballin' out--you know ads with cars and chains and bitches.  they're not saying all black people do this so it's cool, it's more about pimps and toung-in-cheek-pimpin-it in my eyes.  

it's all kind of one big joke ya know

that said, i think burnett said it best in his thrasher article about the deathwish tour, where he pretty much said that the lifestyle they're promoting can potentially be a bad thing--jist of which being 'there's always gonna be someone who takes shit too serious, especially young kids.'

at a (slightly) older age i can see that partying like that is fun, but not a full time way of life. i can laugh at the adds and appreciate a team of garths who party on and shred it up


Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: Unbridled Technical Precision on April 08, 2012, 11:14:41 AM
baker/shakejunt = minstrel show


hahahaahaha
Title: Re: Riley Hawk Bangin
Post by: DaSk8D00D on April 08, 2012, 11:22:32 AM
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Shane is not exploiting black stereotypes you person
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I don't have an opinion on this but if I did it would be the most valid due to the fact that I'm black.
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Great job, Pile.� You turned skateboarding into racism driven bullshit.� So lame.
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i feel that the company exploits a racial stereotype and i don't back it, i'm not claiming it's racist, that would be a ridiculous claim. the reason i feel that way is because i have seen people emulating whatever the fuck the shake junt crew did in their latest video and it's not always a great thing. younger kids are obviously intensely impressionable, and i personally, as an advocate for equality amongst everyone, just seem to find it pretty irresponsible of them to promote some of the things they do.

if shane heyl's a reformed crackhead, promoting drinking and smoking weed and shit to kids seems pretty fucking dumb. he's making money off of kids who he might be steering down a similar road of addiction, with the image of his company whether he's aware of it or not. i might just be over reacting, but i don't like seeing the kids around my park abusing racial slurs and stumbling around drunk and fucking high "acting a fool B". i don't know if you're intelligent enough to look at something from more than one perspective darrin lee, so i'll forgive you for your terrible attempt at an argument as well as the claim that i am responsible for "racism driven bullshit".

are you aware of what exploitation is? look it up numb nuts.




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Young kids are impressionable.  In Antwuan's Epicly Later'd, Shane says:  "Alcoholism kills.  It's a disease and I have it."  If this is not anti substance abuse promotion, I don't know what is.  This was the episode that most clearly revealed the negativity and chaos the abuse is having on Antwuan's career and life.  Drew, Greco and others have all said similar things, even spoke out about trying to get him to clean his act up.  What you're talking about is the false image of drugs being cool and integral and having a fun life, it has absolutely nothing to do with racial stereotypes, it's drugs and alcohol stereotypes.  Drugs and alcohol clearly don't discriminate based on race. 

I'm not trying to be a lame hater, I hardly ever comment on these things because I don't want to get involved in the nonsense.  I'm 28 man, I've skated on and off for about 15 years, have a degree, used to work at a skate mag, just to clear up you thinking I'm some noob kid.  I just really don't like to see the complex topic pigeonholed into a "racial stereotype."  It really has nothing to do with race, it's about drugs.  Yes, some of the past Shake Junt videos did have drug content that could be viewed as portraying them as cool.  In the big picture, however, they've shown an authentic representation of where the "pissdrunk" lifestyle is going to leave you with in reality- a wasted career, in rehab/AA meetings, jail, or worse.

Just because some lame wastoid kids act regular at your park, and perhaps happen to have Shake Junt, this does not in anyway show the company is exploiting racial, or even drug, stereotypes.  I just don't like the race card being thrown in, I don't think it has anything to do with it.

That's all.  Didn't mean to offend.
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Shut the fuck up baker fanboy.
You are so fucking regular that it blows my mind. How you could possibly think baker sends an anti-drug message is beyond me. In an episode of epicly later'd a couple of them make points about how alcoholism is bad after being grilled by it, but take no reponsibility for their companies 100% pro-drug image, and almost make it seem like alcoholism is like a virus that you catch by sitting next to an alcoholic on an airplane. Outside of that episode, you never hear them speaking negatively about drugs. They know drugs are profitable, so they sell that fucked up lifestyle to children. Those dudes have been marketing Antwuan as the wildchild from the start, and though they may not have been able to stop, they definitely didn't try, if anything they encouraged the behavior that led to it.

You think they take alcoholism seriously? Explain why they still have footage of Shane and Greco drinking in their newest videos with party music playing despite the fact that both have quit? They sell the image of boozing even after it nearly ruined their lives. That's the opposite of sending an anti-drug message. Instead of showing the real story about how they partied like that until their lives nearly turned to shit, quit, and then were able to actually produce the footage you see in the video part, they play up the party thing and don't show anything bad about it. On top of that you have Neen adds with him smoking joints with speech bubbles that say some shit like "crucial" or "vital" or something, and Ellington ending his parts with "We're gettin' fucked up tonight!" That's not sending a responsible message about drugs at all. The fact that you find a random serious interview with those dudes where they clearly backpedal the fuck out of what they really market and take that over all of their marketing is hillarious.

We can have the discussion of whether or not it is a skateboard company's responsibility to send a positive image, but that is a separate discussion. The fact is, baker and deathwish are the most pro-drug companies in skateboarding today

Of course, you missed the point Pile was making. He wasn't saying alcohol is a black stereotype. However, when you mix malt liquor, fried chicken, pimps, and random images of menthol cigarettes, you are clearly using black stereotypes to sell your brand. Whether people are offended or not is up to them, but let's not pretend its just a coincidence


Oh, and nobody would give a fuck about Riley Hawk if his last name was Smith. Dude is getting hella privilege because of his name. Not his fault, but he'd be on rep flow if he was a random kid from the midwest skating like that.


very good points there gipper but i must say, i think riley is bit better than rep flow although he definitely would have to work harder to get coverage if he actually were from the midwest. if that one kid on 5boro or zoo york (cant remember which one) can be am riley definitely has to the skill to be one as well