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General Discussion => WHATEVER => Topic started by: smokecrack on June 10, 2012, 03:29:30 PM
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looks like i'm fucked
http://www.digitaltrends.com/web/major-isps-turn-into-copyright-police-by-july-says-riaa/ (http://www.digitaltrends.com/web/major-isps-turn-into-copyright-police-by-july-says-riaa/)
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/03/17/us-isps-become-copyright-cops-starting-july-12/ (http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/03/17/us-isps-become-copyright-cops-starting-july-12/)
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There will always be ways around it . Its been like this for years . We find out away to do it , they find a way to stop it , then we find a new and better way to do it
Cant stop it
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Well, looks like I need to start filling up my external hard drive now.
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Good luck, millions of sites and millions of site users could result in consumers being turned away from your product if they believe that they are being unfairly monitored.
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Good luck, millions of sites and millions of site users could result in consumers being turned away from your product if they believe that they are being unfairly monitored.
no shit. i feel like i already have my internet speeds throttled even though i pay for the best service they offer.
and most importantly, what about porn!!??
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Obama doesn't want you to watch free porn, too much masturbation is slowing the economic recovery
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time to get to work on these bangbros passes
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just temporary fixes to a permanent shift in how people access media. obviously the entire entertainment industry is losing billions of dollars and this will probably put at least some money back into their pockets for a bit but the internet is not going anywhere and eventually everyones just gonna need to find a new way to make a buck.
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I'd like to see them try!
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time to get to work on these bangbros passes
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Good luck
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...and why should we care? Last time I checked VPNs and anonymous torrenting services still exist. It's not even like they can actively monitor every single internet user in the country either. They would like us to think that they can but anyone with half a brain knows it's not even feasible to do that. Yes, some people will get caught and slapped on the wrist but this is mostly just for show. They're trying to scare people out of piracy.
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illuminati
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I knew I was stockpiling shit for a reason. I want to see what happens.
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Besides thepiratebay, what are some good torrent search engines? I got textbooks I need and those shits are expensive.
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So if I go to Starbucks or better yet the college I attend and start downloading all kinds of copyrighted files will their internet be shut off?
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So if I go to Starbucks or better yet the college I attend and start downloading all kinds of copyrighted files will their internet be shut off?
At my college everyone has a unique login name and password. It's easy to track people. They crack down on the people who share a lot on DC++ like every year to try to scare everyone else away from using it.
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So if I go to Starbucks or better yet the college I attend and start downloading all kinds of copyrighted files will their internet be shut off?
On public wifi yes, because it's all consolidated as one ip address thorough one paying customer. You could theoretically go to say a McDonald's with wifi and then download a bunch of shit illegally and then their "speeds would get slowed down". But it's like what was said above, to watch and monitor each and every internet user is damn near impossible and not feasible. As well a lot of it such as private email and online banking can be considered an infringement on the United States Citizen's Right to Privacy.
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so, does this only pick up if somebody is downloading torrents? I don't see how they could figure out if a mediafire link someone is downloading is or isn't copyrighted material, because if they knew it would be taken down already. Can someone explain this to me in a more dumbed down form?
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to think that everything is just going to shut down and there's going to be no sites that will host downloadable content is ridiculous. there's just too many people constantly downloading and uploading files to enforce this to an effective degree. that's pretty much all there is to it.
No Fear (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwxM_1k4dpY&feature=player_embedded#)
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Is pirate bay down for anyone else? I'm sure it'll pop up again but I'm just wondering.
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I got a letter from comcast about 3 months ago when I torrented "Another Earth", seems like the producers were tracking it specifically and told them or something. No clue how it worked really. It's definitely intended to scare people and to be honest it kind of worked.
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I got a letter from comcast about 3 months ago when I torrented "Another Earth", seems like the producers were tracking it specifically and told them or something. No clue how it worked really. It's definitely intended to scare people and to be honest it kind of worked.
My friend told me he received a similar letter one time about a year ago, I just thought he was lying.
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so, does this only pick up if somebody is downloading torrents? I don't see how they could figure out if a mediafire link someone is downloading is or isn't copyrighted material, because if they knew it would be taken down already. Can someone explain this to me in a more dumbed down form?
I think the copyright holder (or, as of July, perhaps just the ISP) would need to know said link had copyrighted material. While whoever said they can't monitor every download is absolutely correct, with the current state of Deep Packet Inspection http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_packet_inspection (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_packet_inspection) they can figure out what they want to know with relative ease, assuming they point it at you. DPI is a big deal, i think it's the most effective way to block Tor transmission as well (the protocol that lets you see the deep web, and also lets rebels in censoring nations get news to/from the outside world).
But I'm not really a computer guy so all this is a bit over my head.
I think an important question is, what is the incentive for the ISP's to do all this? It appears to be voluntary, but all the big ones have agreed to it. Do they get kickbacks from the RIAA and friends?
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just temporary fixes to a permanent shift in how people access media. obviously the entire entertainment industry is losing billions of dollars and this will probably put at least some money back into their pockets for a bit but the internet is not going anywhere and eventually everyones just gonna need to find a new way to make a buck.
yep. Its really funny how when automation came in and cost millions of people their jobs there was no attempt to slow that down, but now that its cutting into the profits of the top, there are constantly laws stopping what is essentially the next step in technology. You used to need 20 men to make a car, now it takes one guy operating a machine, you used to need to own fancy recording and album making equipment to distribute music, now you just need a PC. It won't change even with a million laws.
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anyone still using pirate bay deserves to get caught
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anyone still using pirate bay deserves to get caught
whats better then tough guy
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anyone still using pirate bay deserves to get caught
whats better then tough guy
Ya, answer Mr. Faggot's question.
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just temporary fixes to a permanent shift in how people access media. obviously the entire entertainment industry is losing billions of dollars and this will probably put at least some money back into their pockets for a bit but the internet is not going anywhere and eventually everyones just gonna need to find a new way to make a buck.
Except that this has nothing to to with music recording technology at all.
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Really anyone who still uses the pirate bay or torrents in general is asking for it.
filestube is where it's at really.
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just temporary fixes to a permanent shift in how people access media. obviously the entire entertainment industry is losing billions of dollars and this will probably put at least some money back into their pockets for a bit but the internet is not going anywhere and eventually everyones just gonna need to find a new way to make a buck.
Except that this has nothing to to with music recording technology at all.
meh, minutia. Doesn't change the main point. Besides, I would assume some sort of recording process has to take place in the mass production of an album. Record labels have become obsolete aside from promotion overall.
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just temporary fixes to a permanent shift in how people access media. obviously the entire entertainment industry is losing billions of dollars and this will probably put at least some money back into their pockets for a bit but the internet is not going anywhere and eventually everyones just gonna need to find a new way to make a buck.
Except that this has nothing to to with music recording technology at all.
Record companies don't care about an upstart making music on his MacBook, using a quality studio with a producer and staff to make music is not a method that is going anywhere any time soon. They care about the public getting music for free whereby it becomes more difficult for them to pay that producer and studio and staff. And let's remember, it's not just music industry it's all forms of media, film and television, books, etc.
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Obama doesn't want you to watch free porn, too much masturbation is slowing the economic recovery
i knew there was a reason...
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just temporary fixes to a permanent shift in how people access media. obviously the entire entertainment industry is losing billions of dollars and this will probably put at least some money back into their pockets for a bit but the internet is not going anywhere and eventually everyones just gonna need to find a new way to make a buck.
Except that this has nothing to to with music recording technology at all.
Record companies don't care about an upstart making music on his MacBook, using a quality studio with a producer and staff to make music is not a method that is going anywhere any time soon. They care about the public getting music for free whereby it becomes more difficult for them to pay that producer and studio and staff. And let's remember, it's not just music industry it's all forms of media, film and television, books, etc.
You sound like you work for a label. While you're right about the necessity for a quality studio, producer, etc, the big labels are trying to hold on to their model where they charge a lot for each copy, justify this as production/distribution cost, and give the artist a very small percentage (under 10% iirc). The problem with this model is that digital media has pushed these costs to nearly $0 per copy, because copying an .mp3 file costs nothing. Like the gip said, promotion is their only selling point, and they hate that.
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Tons of big artists self-produce/self record. It is definately still trending upward too.