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Title: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on February 13, 2013, 08:47:09 PM
so what's the deal with these?
I've never heard anything about them until I saw them on instagram

(http://distilleryimage10.s3.amazonaws.com/492b8610754b11e2b74e22000a9e07d7_7.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: pile on February 13, 2013, 08:53:33 PM
so what's the deal with these?
I've never heard anything about them until I saw them on instagram

(http://distilleryimage10.s3.amazonaws.com/492b8610754b11e2b74e22000a9e07d7_7.jpg)

someone gave the gobstopper to slugworth perhaps?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on February 13, 2013, 08:58:11 PM
so what's the deal with these?
I've never heard anything about them until I saw them on instagram

(http://distilleryimage10.s3.amazonaws.com/492b8610754b11e2b74e22000a9e07d7_7.jpg)

someone gave the gobstopper to slugworth perhaps?

haha nah, the dude rides for NC
he also got the low pro early
Shaun Baptista for Real Low Pro Decks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIBMo09vMy0#ws)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Ryantology on February 13, 2013, 09:09:59 PM
they reeeeeaaal good.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on February 13, 2013, 09:33:29 PM
I've been riding them for the last year. Awesome feel, no flat spots, grip when you want and slide on command and noticably faster than anything else I've tried.
They are a true natural urethane color, that might be weird to some, you get used to it fast, especially considering how great the wheels are.
I think all the bugs are worked out, look for them soonish.
For those of you that have had poor luck with the fire in the past, these will not disappoint.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on February 13, 2013, 09:36:57 PM
I've been riding them for the last year. Awesome feel, no flat spots, grip when you want and slide on command and noticably faster than anything else I've tried.
They are a true natural urethane color, that might be weird to some, you get used to it fast, especially considering how great the wheels are.
I think all the bugs are worked out, look for them soonish.
For those of you that have had poor luck with the fire in the past, these will not disappoint.

sounds enticing
the f1's were the first "street" wheels I got but I was sorta bummed when they flatspotted (this was years ago, so they may have changed up the wheels a while ago).  I've ridden stf's for the longest time and I don't have huge complaints, but they can get pretty slippery on some surfaces.  I would have stuck with prize fighters had they not flat spotted as well.

Hopefully the formula fours will satisfy me
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on February 13, 2013, 09:40:38 PM
I was also skeptical, on average f1's lasted me about 4 days before they were unrideable.
I rode bones because frankly they lasted the longest, they slide well but are too icy on some terrains.
I've had about 10 sets of the 4's, as they developed them, I skate a lot and tend to be really hard on wheels as I slide a ton, bluntslides,lipslides and lots of powerslides.
Have yet to flatspot a set. Not saying it can't be done on a long hill holding slides as long as you can, but with normal skating I haven't gotten one yet.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on February 13, 2013, 09:49:00 PM
I was also skeptical, on average f1's lasted me about 4 days before they were unrideable.
I rode bones because frankly they lasted the longest, they slide well but are too icy on some terrains.
I've had about 10 sets of the 4's, as they developed them, I skate a lot and tend to be really hard on wheels as I slide a ton, bluntslides,lipslides and lots of powerslides.
Have yet to flatspot a set. Not saying it can't be done on a long hill holding slides as long as you can, but with normal skating I haven't gotten one yet.


awesome, thanks for the info b.v.
the spring catalog is out already for spitfire, do you think they'll be out by summertime?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: brink on February 13, 2013, 09:53:51 PM
Been riding these for a year or so ... awesome. Love 'em.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on February 13, 2013, 09:55:25 PM
I was also skeptical, on average f1's lasted me about 4 days before they were unrideable.
I rode bones because frankly they lasted the longest, they slide well but are too icy on some terrains.
I've had about 10 sets of the 4's, as they developed them, I skate a lot and tend to be really hard on wheels as I slide a ton, bluntslides,lipslides and lots of powerslides.
Have yet to flatspot a set. Not saying it can't be done on a long hill holding slides as long as you can, but with normal skating I haven't gotten one yet.


awesome, thanks for the info b.v.
the spring catalog is out already for spitfire, do you think they'll be out by summertime?

Hope so, really wanting to take some sales from Bones.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: brink on February 13, 2013, 09:56:30 PM
I was also skeptical, on average f1's lasted me about 4 days before they were unrideable.
I rode bones because frankly they lasted the longest, they slide well but are too icy on some terrains.
I've had about 10 sets of the 4's, as they developed them, I skate a lot and tend to be really hard on wheels as I slide a ton, bluntslides,lipslides and lots of powerslides.
Have yet to flatspot a set. Not saying it can't be done on a long hill holding slides as long as you can, but with normal skating I haven't gotten one yet.


awesome, thanks for the info b.v.
the spring catalog is out already for spitfire, do you think they'll be out by summertime?


Loving the GY!BE Reference in your Cosby sig. Haha
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on February 13, 2013, 10:05:11 PM
I was also skeptical, on average f1's lasted me about 4 days before they were unrideable.
I rode bones because frankly they lasted the longest, they slide well but are too icy on some terrains.
I've had about 10 sets of the 4's, as they developed them, I skate a lot and tend to be really hard on wheels as I slide a ton, bluntslides,lipslides and lots of powerslides.
Have yet to flatspot a set. Not saying it can't be done on a long hill holding slides as long as you can, but with normal skating I haven't gotten one yet.


awesome, thanks for the info b.v.
the spring catalog is out already for spitfire, do you think they'll be out by summertime?


Loving the GY!BE Reference in your Cosby sig. Haha

haha yeah I had a good laugh when I saw it
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ZEBRA on February 13, 2013, 11:17:28 PM
I heard that Spitfire is gonna start making a wheel that doesn't yellow as fast, like Bones. Any truth to that or has anyone else heard that??

Or maybe these are it??
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Noble Experiment on February 13, 2013, 11:28:18 PM
I am officially interested.

I was a Spitfire supporter for a while, and wanted to keep supporting them super badly, but I just couldn't stand buying a set of wheels and having them flatspot and wear out in the blink of an eye. I've been on the STF bandwagon for a few years now. If these wheels are anywhere near as good as STFs, it will be what I am buying from now on.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ontheswarm on February 14, 2013, 01:24:48 AM
I am officially interested.

I was a Spitfire supporter for a while, and wanted to keep supporting them super badly, but I just couldn't stand buying a set of wheels and having them flatspot and wear out in the blink of an eye. I've been on the STF bandwagon for a few years now. If these wheels are anywhere near as good as STFs, it will be what I am buying from now on.
Might have to try these out after seeing Josh flat spot STFs haha He did the impossible
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on February 14, 2013, 07:09:43 AM
Might have to try these out after seeing Josh flat spot STFs haha He did the impossible
Lately I have been seeing more stf's coming in to my shop flatspotted.
I don't think they're as good as they once were.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: The Nose Face on February 14, 2013, 07:10:24 AM
People in the know have been talking about these Spirfire's for a while now on the boards. I def want to try them after a pair of Busenitz Street Burner I had flatspotted in literally one session...

I had these 54MM AWOL Spits, and they never gave me an issue. I think it's because the wheel wasn't wide - it was supposed to be better to lock into grinds. I still don't know what the difference between AWOL's and Lock-In's are...Anyone? Does anyone swear by these for their performance? It's kind of the opposite of that Wide Manderson Wheel you see around a lot now...


(http://www.blacksheepstore.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/p/spitcole_awol53.jpg)
(http://www.mnl.dk/shared/8/8496a92851caeb6fb236f87978ea81d3_h100w800_width.JPG)


Either way - It's nice to see Spitfire making a splash in the market again. Always rode and liked them.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on February 14, 2013, 07:31:42 AM
Quote from: The Nose Face  link=topic=68020.msg1849395#msg1849395 date=1360854624
People in the know have been talking about these Spirfire's for a while now on the boards. I def want to try them after a pair of Busenitz Street Burner I had flatspotted in literally one session...

I had these 54MM AWOL Spits, and they never gave me an issue. I think it's because the wheel wasn't wide - it was supposed to be better to lock into grinds. I still don't know what the difference between AWOL's and Lock-In's are...Anyone? Does anyone swear by these for their performance? It's kind of the opposite of that Wide Manderson Wheel you see around a lot now...
Either way - It's nice to see Spitfire making a splash in the market again. Always rode and liked them.

AWOL cut is closer to the bones spf conical? shape
(http://livewellsports.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/W/1WBONMARPU05400_1.png)
The flat edge locks into coping better, versus a radius cut that rolls off and releases from coping easier.
The lockins have a square backside and a conical shape on the front. So they're not reversible.
The shape I have been riding is a new one for spitfire, it is close to the bones spf shape but slightly wider.
(http://cdn.companybe.com/Premier/product_photos/large/xl_8-15-12SpitfireTeamStreetBurnersEmbursBlack54mm.jpg)
 
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on February 14, 2013, 08:27:52 AM


The shape I have been riding is a new one for spitfire, it is close to the bones spf shape but slightly wider.
(http://cdn.companybe.com/Premier/product_photos/large/xl_8-15-12SpitfireTeamStreetBurnersEmbursBlack54mm.jpg)
 

This is the kind of wheel I'm looking to buy once formula four is out.
They make the stfs in the v2 shape, which people say have problems with bearings popping out but I've had no such problems yet.
How are the emburs?  Like I said before, the last set of spitfires I rode/flatspotted were years ago, maybe spitfire has been improving the formula over the years?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: sleepypancakes on February 14, 2013, 08:58:27 AM
I've been playing around with a bunch of different wheel companies since I got pissed with flat-spotting spitfires. They're good while they last, they just need to last, I've tried Broadcast, Autobahn, Bones, Paradise, Momentum, OJIIIs, Pigs, and even Satoris. I'm on to this new brand called The Portland Wheel Co. now and haven't gotten to skate them yet. The Broadcast, Bones, Paradise and Satoris were all decently good wheels, but I'm really excited about being able to support Spitfire again with their new formula.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fookya on February 14, 2013, 09:13:35 AM
I've been seeing pictures of these wheels here and there for the past year, I'm excited to try them. I've been riding pretty much only spitfire classics for a long time, I've never had problems with them flat spotting or anything and they feel great on all terrain. bones stf always felt shitty to me, more like plastic then urethan and slips on everything. I hope these come out good though, I would mind a spitfire that slid a tad bit easier.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: solo on February 14, 2013, 09:39:12 AM
the prototype f4's are the best wheels.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: DarthMallGrab on February 14, 2013, 02:15:13 PM
A few friends and I were lucky enough to get a tour around DLX by the man Mic-E himself. He gave us each a set of formula fours with just the classic team logo on them and the urethane is that natural off-white color which i think looks sick. The wheels are a lot slicker than any other spitfire wheel Iv ever ridden. I would put it just under stf's as far as slipperiness. Maybe more like the "skatepark formula".
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Morty Seinfeld on February 14, 2013, 09:26:04 PM
I've been playing around with a bunch of different wheel companies since I got pissed with flat-spotting spitfires. They're good while they last, they just need to last, I've tried Broadcast, Autobahn, Bones, Paradise, Momentum, OJIIIs, Pigs, and even Satoris. I'm on to this new brand called The Portland Wheel Co. now and haven't gotten to skate them yet. The Broadcast, Bones, Paradise and Satoris were all decently good wheels, but I'm really excited about being able to support Spitfire again with their new formula.

Prize Fighter Cutlery will not disappoint you
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on February 14, 2013, 09:40:30 PM
I've been playing around with a bunch of different wheel companies since I got pissed with flat-spotting spitfires. They're good while they last, they just need to last, I've tried Broadcast, Autobahn, Bones, Paradise, Momentum, OJIIIs, Pigs, and even Satoris. I'm on to this new brand called The Portland Wheel Co. now and haven't gotten to skate them yet. The Broadcast, Bones, Paradise and Satoris were all decently good wheels, but I'm really excited about being able to support Spitfire again with their new formula.

Prize Fighter Cutlery will not disappoint you

Granted they only flatspotted on a pretty rough hill in SF, I'm still iffy about buying another set
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Frank on February 15, 2013, 01:07:23 AM
^

mine held up really good, i only changed my set because a) after riding them a lot for three months or so they just wore down below 51mm and i usually change em when they get to 50mm, b) i broke a few bearings mid session, went home and just couldn't pop out the outer ring of two broken bearings, so i ended up setting up new wheels and bearings because i was stocked on that at the time. i have a set of 54mm pfcs left that i will set up once the weather gets decent.

that said, the f4 spitfires sound a lot like they ride like pfcs which is cool because i can get them at my local. i'd rather like to be able to buy pfcs or sml. or whatever at more shops though. it's always the same, you got bones, spits, maybe autobahn or hubba, then the rest is some branded wheels which are usually hit or miss. why not leave out the branded crap and get a real alternative instead?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: bbk on February 15, 2013, 12:05:09 PM
I've been riding these since my trip to San Fransisco in June, they're amazing! I've had some chipping but it's only on the edges so I don?t notice it when riding. I used to only skate STF and didn't even bother with streetburners because I saw a lot of people flatspotting them, but I felt right at home with theese. super good wheels
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: I Can't Think on February 15, 2013, 07:41:24 PM
I've been riding these since my trip to San Fransisco in June, they're amazing! I've had some chipping but it's only on the edges so I don?t notice it when riding. I used to only skate STF and didn't even bother with streetburners because I saw a lot of people flatspotting them, but I felt right at home with theese. super good wheels

You've just solidified my next wheel purchase. I rode STF until they were to small and ended up winning some element wheels which are meh (bearings pop out like crazy). This sounds like a less slippy but just as tough wheel
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: DeputyDoses on February 16, 2013, 01:46:40 PM
My first wheels were a pair of TNT edition Spitfire classics around 4 1/2 years ago. Needless to say, I wasn't very happy with their performance. And it's pretty expensive to buy new classics every month or two. SO, I've been riding Bones STFs for around 4 years. And I've skated a pair of Ricta naturals in between pairs of STFs a couple years back.
Now, I love bones, but I can completely agree that they can feel a bit too... Icy at times. But it's nothing horrendous.

I was never into the F1's, I know that a lot of pros had to promote the wheels, but most of them ended up just skating classics when it was all said and done. And I received mixed reviews from friends, so I said "fuck that shit."

If these Spits are really as good as people are saying they are, I might have to try out a pair.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Sydney Skater on February 16, 2013, 08:31:34 PM
Quote from: The Nose Face  link=topic=68020.msg1849395#msg1849395 date=1360854624
People in the know have been talking about these Spirfire's for a while now on the boards. I def want to try them after a pair of Busenitz Street Burner I had flatspotted in literally one session...

I had these 54MM AWOL Spits, and they never gave me an issue. I think it's because the wheel wasn't wide - it was supposed to be better to lock into grinds. I still don't know what the difference between AWOL's and Lock-In's are...Anyone? Does anyone swear by these for their performance? It's kind of the opposite of that Wide Manderson Wheel you see around a lot now...


(http://www.blacksheepstore.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/p/spitcole_awol53.jpg)
(http://www.mnl.dk/shared/8/8496a92851caeb6fb236f87978ea81d3_h100w800_width.JPG)


Either way - It's nice to see Spitfire making a splash in the market again. Always rode and liked them.
See I had a different experience with these. they flat spotted every five fucking minutes and didn't lock in as well as they were meant to.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hamish on February 17, 2013, 03:30:18 AM
When do these drop?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: imgne on February 20, 2013, 02:18:10 AM
Quote from: The Nose Face ? link=topic=68020.msg1849395#msg1849395 date=1360854624
People in the know have been talking about these Spirfire's for a while now on the boards. I def want to try them after a pair of Busenitz Street Burner I had flatspotted in literally one session...

I had these 54MM AWOL Spits, and they never gave me an issue. I think it's because the wheel wasn't wide - it was supposed to be better to lock into grinds. I still don't know what the difference between AWOL's and Lock-In's are...Anyone? Does anyone swear by these for their performance? It's kind of the opposite of that Wide Manderson Wheel you see around a lot now...


(http://www.blacksheepstore.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/p/spitcole_awol53.jpg)
(http://www.mnl.dk/shared/8/8496a92851caeb6fb236f87978ea81d3_h100w800_width.JPG)


Either way - It's nice to see Spitfire making a splash in the market again. Always rode and liked them.
See I had a different experience with these. they flat spotted every five fucking minutes and didn't lock in as well as they were meant to.

Those lock-in wheels are shithouse, the side with the graphic on it is the only side that will lock-in the way they're ment to... what is meant to be the inside is the same as any other shitfire wheel cut.

If you want a wheel that does lock-properly on both sides, get spf slims or gtfo!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: rlang on March 19, 2013, 08:32:02 AM
When the fuck are these coming out?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: The Nose Face on March 19, 2013, 11:24:56 AM
When the fuck are these coming out?

B.V. said in another thread in another month or two...something along the lines of right before summer I'm guessing.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: SKATE DAD on March 20, 2013, 07:44:02 PM
Been riding these for a year or so ... awesome. Love 'em.
When will they be released? (If you know)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on March 20, 2013, 08:14:01 PM
The formula 4 urethane is set to be released for the summer I heard.
They are taking every precaution to make sure the product is top notch.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: iwshilvdnfinland on March 20, 2013, 08:14:17 PM
I'd love to try a set of these.


Bones STF have never let me down, the last Spits I had flatspotted nearly right away and truly sucked.  But I want to support them instead of jock ass Bones...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hamish on March 20, 2013, 11:58:25 PM
The formula 4 urethane is set to be released for the summer I heard.
They are taking every precaution to make sure the product is top notch.
So... in one of the next DLX drops? I hope so, I need some new wheels soon.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: pile on March 21, 2013, 12:38:03 AM
i really hope that they are on par with the bones stf. i'd much prefer to buy a spitfire wheel, but the ones i've bought in the past just crap out too quickly. i'm excited to try these out and hopefully never look back.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on March 21, 2013, 07:10:39 AM
I've ridden 6 sets, given out a dozen, not one flatspot from any of them.
I usually destroy wheels(including bones), I've tried to flat these, held a slide for the length of 2 parking spots,nothing.
The natural color will bum some people out, those who don't care will have awesome wheels.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ontheswarm on March 22, 2013, 12:25:37 AM
I've ridden 6 sets, given out a dozen, not one flatspot from any of them.
I usually destroy wheels(including bones), I've tried to flat these, held a slide for the length of 2 parking spots,nothing.
The natural color will bum some people out, those who don't care will have awesome wheels.
Whats the natural color?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on March 22, 2013, 03:33:27 AM
I've ridden 6 sets, given out a dozen, not one flatspot from any of them.
I usually destroy wheels(including bones), I've tried to flat these, held a slide for the length of 2 parking spots,nothing.
The natural color will bum some people out, those who don't care will have awesome wheels.
Whats the natural color?
it's off white, not like stf's bright white color
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on March 22, 2013, 11:40:48 AM
Here is the set I am currently on, been skating them for a week.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/IMAG0783.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ontheswarm on March 22, 2013, 11:47:41 AM
Here is the set I am currently on, been skating them for a week.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/IMAG0783.jpg)

O ok it's sort of like a baize color. I would definitely be down to try a pair when they come out this summer. Do you work for dlx or something?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on March 22, 2013, 11:56:48 AM
I run a shop and I have friends that work for dlx, they take good care of me and my shop so I do my best to support them.
Certified dick rider I guess.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ontheswarm on March 22, 2013, 12:01:24 PM
I run a shop and I have friends that work for dlx, they take good care of me and my shop so I do my best to support them.
Certified dick rider I guess.

No that's rad man. Where is your shop located?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on March 22, 2013, 12:11:53 PM
hey b.v.
was just wondering if you have any idea about the shapes they're going to release on their first drop?
I kinda like the flatter/conical shapes as opposed to the classic shapes (although I'm fine with whatever).
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on March 22, 2013, 01:20:14 PM
Ive ridden both, they plan on doing a few shapes I was told but everything is subject to change.
I heard this shape is supposed to be put in production with the formuala 4 urethane.
(http://www.skate-europe.com/common/zdjecia/98762-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Noble Experiment on March 22, 2013, 03:56:54 PM
Here is the set I am currently on, been skating them for a week.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/IMAG0783.jpg)

I actually think the off white color looks pretty sick.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on March 22, 2013, 04:26:18 PM
Ive ridden both, they plan on doing a few shapes I was told but things change and everything is subject to change.
I heard this shape is supposed to be put in production with the formuala 4 urethane.
(http://www.skate-europe.com/common/zdjecia/98762-1.jpg)


good to know man, thanks.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on March 22, 2013, 06:33:10 PM
I run a shop and I have friends that work for dlx, they take good care of me and my shop so I do my best to support them.
Certified dick rider I guess.

No that's rad man. Where is your shop located?
We are in Washington state south of Seattle.
https://www.facebook.com/35thave (https://www.facebook.com/35thave)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: zoltan on March 22, 2013, 08:13:10 PM
Here is the set I am currently on, been skating them for a week.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/IMAG0783.jpg)

I actually think the off white color looks pretty sick.

yeah and im sure your wheels will look a better color after skating them long, maybe a more natural yellow. The streetburners turn kinda bright yellow and fuck i keep flatspoting the shit out of them. they feel fine in the streets but at a park i get over it. especially when i try to take a run in the bowl and it sounds like a fucking motorcycle
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ontheswarm on March 22, 2013, 10:17:18 PM
I run a shop and I have friends that work for dlx, they take good care of me and my shop so I do my best to support them.
Certified dick rider I guess.

No that's rad man. Where is your shop located?
We are in Washington state south of Seattle.
https://www.facebook.com/35thave (https://www.facebook.com/35thave)
I was wondering what those stickers were on your board in the post your set up thread. You got a rad set up man. That gonz board looks amazing.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: The Nose Face on March 25, 2013, 08:16:56 AM
I run a shop and I have friends that work for dlx, they take good care of me and my shop so I do my best to support them.
Certified dick rider I guess.

No that's rad man. Where is your shop located?
We are in Washington state south of Seattle.

Next to the record shop right, B.V. ?

I came in there on vacation back in september and bought this shirt at the shop:
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7266/7118773127_44f60e619f.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on March 25, 2013, 08:45:59 AM
No that is 35th north.
We are the original shop in federal way.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Stoeipoes on March 25, 2013, 11:08:05 AM
I ride mostly bones 100's. But I tried Spitfire F1's but I didn't like the feel of them from the first day on. Skated them till they flatspotted 2 months later and got some bones 100's again. Way better for me.

I'm gonna try these when they come out. But spitfire isn't doing it for me in the past.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: DeputyDoses on March 25, 2013, 01:01:28 PM
I ride mostly bones 100's. But I tried Spitfire F1's but I didn't like the feel of them from the first day on. Skated them till they flatspotted 2 months later and got some bones 100's again. Way better for me.

I'm gonna try these when they come out. But spitfire isn't doing it for me in the past.
(probably a ridiculous question) have you tried bones STFs?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Stoeipoes on March 25, 2013, 06:26:49 PM
I ride mostly bones 100's. But I tried Spitfire F1's but I didn't like the feel of them from the first day on. Skated them till they flatspotted 2 months later and got some bones 100's again. Way better for me.

I'm gonna try these when they come out. But spitfire isn't doing it for me in the past.
(probably a ridiculous question) have you tried bones STFs?

Never. 100's do it for me and those stf's feel like plastic and are more expensive.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: teh canadian suit on March 26, 2013, 05:22:32 PM
I skated Spitfires for 8ish years....Tried STF's once and they felt like walmart wheels to me, though. I switched to Prize Fighters about a year ago and now I won't skate anything else. Nothing else is as resilient, but I guess these formula fours may be...I'd be down to give em a shot.

And to the dude that said he flatspotted PFC's once and never went back, are you joking? I've flatspotted every set of wheels I've ever owned ever... That's no reason to abandon a company entirely.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Randozzi on March 26, 2013, 05:44:40 PM
similar situation with me, skated Spits for nearly two decades then switched to PFCs.
these 4s are pretty damn good once you get past the color.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: mex.ceferino on March 26, 2013, 06:53:45 PM
The natural color will bum some people out, those who don't care will have awesome wheels.
you can always dye them
i'll experiment with some generic wheels i got handed down until the spitfires come out
the F4 white looks alright though

How to dye your OJ'S (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1K1x0K8VZs#)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Morty Seinfeld on March 26, 2013, 10:04:26 PM
I skated Spitfires for 8ish years....Tried STF's once and they felt like walmart wheels to me, though. I switched to Prize Fighters about a year ago and now I won't skate anything else. Nothing else is as resilient, but I guess these formula fours may be...I'd be down to give em a shot.

And to the dude that said he flatspotted PFC's once and never went back, are you joking? I've flatspotted every set of wheels I've ever owned ever... That's no reason to abandon a company entirely.

I wouldn't switch back to anything other than PFC's either. I've tried to flatspot them and couldn't do it.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on March 26, 2013, 10:19:38 PM
I skated Spitfires for 8ish years....Tried STF's once and they felt like walmart wheels to me, though. I switched to Prize Fighters about a year ago and now I won't skate anything else. Nothing else is as resilient, but I guess these formula fours may be...I'd be down to give em a shot.

And to the dude that said he flatspotted PFC's once and never went back, are you joking? I've flatspotted every set of wheels I've ever owned ever... That's no reason to abandon a company entirely.

I wouldn't switch back to anything other than PFC's either. I've tried to flatspot them and couldn't do it.

I only had one set of PFC's, and it only flatspotted once I tried powersliding on a super rough hill.  So it's not that I don't think they're bad wheels, but since STFs were bearable for me, I just stuck with that. 
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: TFUCKINA on March 26, 2013, 11:03:10 PM
Spitfire for life! Can't wait for f4's
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: zoltan on April 09, 2013, 11:44:10 PM
just got hooked up with a set!

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8123/8637146924_2284f370fd.jpg)

here is them next to F1's

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8381/8636040299_e70eeacc9f.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: peewee on April 10, 2013, 09:21:09 PM
the color of them just makes me think of unsold wheels sitting in the shop forever
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hamish on April 10, 2013, 10:59:29 PM
They don't look tooooo bad, as long as they stay like that for the most part.

Can't wait for them to drop, haven't ridden Spitfires in years.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on April 10, 2013, 11:26:30 PM
I think the color looks fine...I honestly wouldn't have noticed if it wasn't for the comparison.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Randozzi on April 10, 2013, 11:36:46 PM
It's not bad, just different.
I really dig the way they power slide.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: zoltan on April 11, 2013, 12:16:45 AM
i think they will look better after being skated compared to other white wheels that turn a more unnatural yellow. my street burners right now are turning a bright yellow cant wait to set up the f4's
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Noble Experiment on April 11, 2013, 12:50:06 AM
the color of them just makes me think of unsold wheels sitting in the shop forever
Had a set of Pig's at the local shop that no one would buy, and they just sat there for months, and the color they ended up turning sort of reminds me of how the F4's look, ahah.
But, as I mentioned earlier, I don't even mind the off white color. I think it looks pretty sick.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hamish on April 11, 2013, 01:30:30 AM
Zoltan, do you know what shape those are?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: zoltan on April 12, 2013, 11:00:00 PM
Zoltan, do you know what shape those are?

not sure looks like the classics maybe? they are about the same maybe a little thinner than f1's
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: the_unknown_soldier on April 14, 2013, 03:28:28 PM
I'm definitely buying a set once they're available. Any confirmed dates? (The page before just had estimates.)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on April 14, 2013, 03:30:32 PM
Bones makes spitfire obsolete. Unless they man up and put a flatspot guarantee on the F4's FUCK SPITFIRE

Even Darkstar can make wheels that don't flatspot, spitfire is a joke
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: the_unknown_soldier on April 14, 2013, 03:33:39 PM
k.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Made In China on April 14, 2013, 04:43:01 PM
Quote from: Tracer ? link=topic=68020.msg1892283#msg1892283 date=1365978632
Bones makes spitfire obsolete. Unless they man up and put a flatspot guarantee on the F4's FUCK SPITFIRE

Even Darkstar can make wheels that don't flatspot, spitfire is a joke
you seriously blow
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: DeputyDoses on April 14, 2013, 08:08:18 PM
Zoltan - let us know how they skate! I haven't had a set of spitfires in years.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on April 14, 2013, 08:14:06 PM
Quote from: Tracer ? link=topic=68020.msg1892283#msg1892283 date=1365978632
Bones makes spitfire obsolete. Unless they man up and put a flatspot guarantee on the F4's FUCK SPITFIRE

Even Darkstar can make wheels that don't flatspot, spitfire is a joke
you seriously blow
some people just can't handle the truth. they see the cool spitfire logo and hand over the moneys
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Randozzi on April 17, 2013, 06:02:23 PM
(http://www.spitfirewheels.com/burnclub/signup.php)
http://spitfirewheels.com/burnclub/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/burnclub/)

Coming next month.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Dick Butkus on April 17, 2013, 07:13:41 PM
Quote from: Tracer  link=topic=68020.msg1892464#msg1892464 date=1365995646
Quote from: Tracer ? link=topic=68020.msg1892283#msg1892283 date=1365978632
Bones makes spitfire obsolete. Unless they man up and put a flatspot guarantee on the F4's FUCK SPITFIRE

Even Darkstar can make wheels that don't flatspot, spitfire is a joke
you seriously blow
some people just can't handle the truth. they see the cool spitfire logo and hand over the moneys

I really do not like you
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dillanharp on April 17, 2013, 07:18:07 PM
(http://www.spitfirewheels.com/burnclub/signup.php)
http://spitfirewheels.com/burnclub/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/burnclub/)

Coming next month.

Whatever that is, I signed up for it.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Randozzi on April 17, 2013, 07:31:42 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/17388_494749540579577_239789277_n.jpg)
oops, guess the first image didn't work.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: pile on April 17, 2013, 10:12:53 PM
i got a set the other day, i'm hyped to try them out... the color is really weird but, i'm sure i'll get over it.

Edit: they are really rad, did tons of powerslides and a bunch of bluntslides as well! No problems whatsoever, and they skate pretty smoothly.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: the_unknown_soldier on April 22, 2013, 09:45:06 PM
Won that Burn Fourever Instagram give away thingy  today, so I should have mine within a week or two. Fuck yeah!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: The Nose Face on May 01, 2013, 08:32:18 AM
Shops should be getting this month I'm guessing - B.V. or anyone else - did your local shop get them in at all yet?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on May 01, 2013, 01:15:21 PM
Quote from: Tracer  link=topic=68020.msg1892464#msg1892464 date=1365995646
Quote from: Tracer ? link=topic=68020.msg1892283#msg1892283 date=1365978632
Bones makes spitfire obsolete. Unless they man up and put a flatspot guarantee on the F4's FUCK SPITFIRE

Even Darkstar can make wheels that don't flatspot, spitfire is a joke
you seriously blow
some people just can't handle the truth. they see the cool spitfire logo and hand over the moneys

I really do not like you
Bro, its fukkin true. Spitfires are garbage compared to Bones

Bones don't flatspot, spitfires do, end of story
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: bbk on May 01, 2013, 02:12:15 PM
Quote from: Tracer  link=topic=68020.msg1903453#msg1903453 date=1367439321
Quote from: Tracer  link=topic=68020.msg1892464#msg1892464 date=1365995646
Quote from: Tracer ? link=topic=68020.msg1892283#msg1892283 date=1365978632
Bones makes spitfire obsolete. Unless they man up and put a flatspot guarantee on the F4's FUCK SPITFIRE

Even Darkstar can make wheels that don't flatspot, spitfire is a joke
you seriously blow
some people just can't handle the truth. they see the cool spitfire logo and hand over the moneys

I really do not like you
Bro, its fukkin true. Spitfires are garbage compared to Bones

Bones don't flatspot, spitfires do, end of story

This is what I thought before I got to try f4. If the final product is as good as the sample I got I'll never buy another wheel again
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: tuque on May 01, 2013, 03:23:09 PM
I'm not a big spitfire fan but I'd like to try these.  I think the color is actually sort of neat. 
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on May 01, 2013, 04:30:39 PM
Quote from: Tracer  link=topic=68020.msg1903453#msg1903453 date=1367439321
Quote from: Tracer  link=topic=68020.msg1892464#msg1892464 date=1365995646
Quote from: Tracer ? link=topic=68020.msg1892283#msg1892283 date=1365978632
Bones makes spitfire obsolete. Unless they man up and put a flatspot guarantee on the F4's FUCK SPITFIRE

Even Darkstar can make wheels that don't flatspot, spitfire is a joke
you seriously blow
some people just can't handle the truth. they see the cool spitfire logo and hand over the moneys

I really do not like you
Bro, its fukkin true. Spitfires are garbage compared to Bones

Bones don't flatspot, spitfires do, end of story

This is what I thought before I got to try f4. If the final product is as good as the sample I got I'll never buy another wheel again
What don't you like about bones wheels? They have been good forever

Just don't see why people need to change a good thing
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Dick Butkus on May 01, 2013, 06:22:37 PM
Quote from: Tracer  link=topic=68020.msg1903453#msg1903453 date=1367439321
Quote from: Tracer  link=topic=68020.msg1892464#msg1892464 date=1365995646
Quote from: Tracer ? link=topic=68020.msg1892283#msg1892283 date=1365978632
Bones makes spitfire obsolete. Unless they man up and put a flatspot guarantee on the F4's FUCK SPITFIRE

Even Darkstar can make wheels that don't flatspot, spitfire is a joke
you seriously blow
some people just can't handle the truth. they see the cool spitfire logo and hand over the moneys

I really do not like you
Bro, its fukkin true. Spitfires are garbage compared to Bones

Bones don't flatspot, spitfires do, end of story

sorry you can't afford spitfires that are better even though you have to replace them more often, and you have to buy shitty bones because they last longer. Length isn't the only deciding factor of which wheel is better.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on May 01, 2013, 06:40:09 PM
Quote from: Tracer  link=topic=68020.msg1903453#msg1903453 date=1367439321
Quote from: Tracer  link=topic=68020.msg1892464#msg1892464 date=1365995646
Quote from: Tracer ? link=topic=68020.msg1892283#msg1892283 date=1365978632
Bones makes spitfire obsolete. Unless they man up and put a flatspot guarantee on the F4's FUCK SPITFIRE

Even Darkstar can make wheels that don't flatspot, spitfire is a joke
you seriously blow
some people just can't handle the truth. they see the cool spitfire logo and hand over the moneys

I really do not like you
Bro, its fukkin true. Spitfires are garbage compared to Bones

Bones don't flatspot, spitfires do, end of story

sorry you can't afford spitfires that are better even though you have to replace them more often, and you have to buy shitty bones because they last longer. Length isn't the only deciding factor of which wheel is better.
define better
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on May 01, 2013, 07:43:55 PM
better = the one you like better.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: bbk on May 02, 2013, 03:02:07 PM
Quote from: Tracer  link=topic=68020.msg1903638#msg1903638 date=1367451039
Quote from: Tracer  link=topic=68020.msg1903453#msg1903453 date=1367439321
Quote from: Tracer  link=topic=68020.msg1892464#msg1892464 date=1365995646
Quote from: Tracer ? link=topic=68020.msg1892283#msg1892283 date=1365978632
Bones makes spitfire obsolete. Unless they man up and put a flatspot guarantee on the F4's FUCK SPITFIRE

Even Darkstar can make wheels that don't flatspot, spitfire is a joke
you seriously blow
some people just can't handle the truth. they see the cool spitfire logo and hand over the moneys

I really do not like you
Bro, its fukkin true. Spitfires are garbage compared to Bones

Bones don't flatspot, spitfires do, end of story

This is what I thought before I got to try f4. If the final product is as good as the sample I got I'll never buy another wheel again
What don't you like about bones wheels? They have been good forever

Just don't see why people need to change a good thing
I got love for DLX, and bones are usually more expensive... don't know how f4  will be priced yet though
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Julz on May 05, 2013, 10:03:40 PM
Quote from: Tracer  link=topic=68020.msg1903638#msg1903638 date=1367451039
Quote from: Tracer  link=topic=68020.msg1903453#msg1903453 date=1367439321
Quote from: Tracer  link=topic=68020.msg1892464#msg1892464 date=1365995646
Quote from: Tracer ? link=topic=68020.msg1892283#msg1892283 date=1365978632
Bones makes spitfire obsolete. Unless they man up and put a flatspot guarantee on the F4's FUCK SPITFIRE

Even Darkstar can make wheels that don't flatspot, spitfire is a joke
you seriously blow
some people just can't handle the truth. they see the cool spitfire logo and hand over the moneys

I really do not like you
Bro, its fukkin true. Spitfires are garbage compared to Bones

Bones don't flatspot, spitfires do, end of story

This is what I thought before I got to try f4. If the final product is as good as the sample I got I'll never buy another wheel again
What don't you like about bones wheels? They have been good forever

Just don't see why people need to change a good thing
I got love for DLX, and bones are usually more expensive... don't know how f4  will be priced yet though

I'm aware that Tracer's a jerkjob but he is kinda right about the bones/spitfire debate, people just buy spitfire cause their favorite skaters ride for them and they have pretty graphics. If you like the smoothness of spitfire wheels there's a dozen brands out there offering the same shit.

Bones are cheap since they'll last you a good year or more depending on how low you can tolerate your wheel size.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on May 05, 2013, 10:45:11 PM
Well when people get there hands on A set of the new formula 4 spitfire wheels, it won't be for image.
They're damn good wheels that in my varied experience both first and second hand do not flat spot.
Meaning over a dozen sets locally given to folks that destroy wheels on a regular basis that NEVER flatspotted them and continue to ride them until they come across another set.

Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Julz on May 05, 2013, 10:49:06 PM
Well when people get there hands on A set of the new formula 4 spitfire wheels, it won't be for image.
They're damn good wheels that in my varied experience both first and second hand do not flat spot.
Meaning over a dozen sets locally given to folks that destroy wheels on a regular basis that NEVER flatspotted them and continue to ride them until they come across another set.



Can't judge the F4 but when it comes to the F1/big head blablabla models it's a whole different story
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ice nine on May 05, 2013, 11:10:34 PM
i flatspotted one of my stf's last week when i got caught on a rock at a foundation spot. its possible
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: jack2jack on May 06, 2013, 06:27:10 AM
i flatspotted one of my stf's last week when i got caught on a rock at a foundation spot. its possible

I have experiencedthis too. but when you continue to ride em for a week or so the flatspot will be gone and doesn?t come back like with other wheels....
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on May 06, 2013, 09:11:06 AM
Past few months I've seen dozens of flatted stf's, right out of the gate too.
Something must have changed in the formula. No one usually had problems before.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: jerrys_kids on May 06, 2013, 09:17:36 AM
Tracer I want you to know that I despise who you are on a  cellular level.

Due Date: Best Scene - (Spit in the Dogs face) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e10eMU_Uz44#ws)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ThugWaffle on May 08, 2013, 12:18:59 PM
I need wheels right now, but im willing to wait for these to come out, that is if theyre coming out this month like deluxe says.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: schmuckface killah on May 08, 2013, 02:10:59 PM
the color of them just makes me think of unsold wheels sitting in the shop forever
Thats probably what they are, the dudes in marketing probably just said call it something cool like formula 4 and tell people they wont flatspot and we'll get rid of these shitty yellow wheels in no time
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dankradschwag on May 09, 2013, 02:00:02 PM
spitfire wheels really suck really bad, just throwing that out there
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: bbk on May 09, 2013, 02:20:37 PM
spitfire wheels really suck really bad, just throwing that out there
Like I said I didn't even bother with streetburners, I was never into spitfire before I got this wheel. but I've been riding a set of theese since July and they're the muhfuckin' truth!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: soccer mom on May 09, 2013, 03:39:57 PM
Best wheels made!
 I have had 3 pairs they don't flat spot and i'll be damned they almost don't even cone.
The only reason I ever put on new ones was purely because i had more laying around.
you can punish them with month's of power sliding and hill bombs, you won't be bummed
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: floop on May 09, 2013, 03:46:53 PM
Best wheels made!
 I have had 3 pairs they don't flat spot and i'll be damned they almost don't even cone.
The only reason I ever put on new ones was purely because i had more laying around.
you can punish them with month's of power sliding and hill bombs, you won't be bummed

that should be their tag line
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: schmuckface killah on May 10, 2013, 01:10:46 PM
Best wheels made!
 I have had 3 pairs they don't flat spot and i'll be damned they almost don't even cone.
The only reason I ever put on new ones was purely because i had more laying around.
you can punish them with month's of power sliding and hill bombs, you won't be bummed
They cant be that good if you've gone through 3 sets and there not even out yet.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Firebert on May 10, 2013, 02:10:22 PM
Best wheels made!
 I have had 3 pairs they don't flat spot and i'll be damned they almost don't even cone.
The only reason I ever put on new ones was purely because i had more laying around.
you can punish them with month's of power sliding and hill bombs, you won't be bummed
They cant be that good if you've gone through 3 sets and there not even out yet.
Pretty sure samples have been floating around since last summer. Weren't they orange first?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: october on May 10, 2013, 09:09:29 PM
 Wheels are wheels. Spitfire, Bones, PFC. They all ride the same, and end up the same way.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: chillout on May 10, 2013, 09:24:44 PM
Wheels are wheels. Spitfire, Bones, PFC. They all ride the same, and end up the same way.

bones and spitfires ride the same and end up the same? haha
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: october on May 10, 2013, 10:49:02 PM
Pretty much. haha
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: zoltan on May 11, 2013, 12:02:13 AM
Pretty much. haha

bones dont really flatspot unless you try to flatspot them, but they are too slippery

spitfires tend to flatspot easy but definitely feel the best

formula 4 = best wheel
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dankradschwag on May 11, 2013, 10:35:43 AM
Wheels are wheels. Spitfire, Bones, PFC. They all ride the same, and end up the same way.

bones and spitfires ride the same and end up the same? haha

i have to agree. wheels are wheels. the differences between performance is so meager that it doesnt warrant a ten to fifteen dollar price difference. i've rode satori, paradise, bones, OJ, etc. they are all about the same. the only exception to this is spitfire. they suck.

also, u guys should really buy wheels from smaller brands like satori and paradise. they are good wheels and warrant the support.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: the snake on May 11, 2013, 11:27:35 AM
satori are good. i rode a pricepoint set a friend gave me, and i really appreciated the smoothness(99A) after bones STF(103A)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: october on May 11, 2013, 03:43:09 PM
Wheels are wheels. Spitfire, Bones, PFC. They all ride the same, and end up the same way.

bones and spitfires ride the same and end up the same? haha

i have to agree. wheels are wheels. the differences between performance is so meager that it doesnt warrant a ten to fifteen dollar price difference. i've rode satori, paradise, bones, OJ, etc. they are all about the same. the only exception to this is spitfire. they suck.


also, u guys should really buy wheels from smaller brands like satori and paradise. they are good wheels and warrant the support.

Exactly what I meant, just didn't care to spend the time to explain better.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ArrowHeadz on May 12, 2013, 11:56:29 AM
I've flatspotted Bones and Spitfires but Bones feel way too slick compared to Spitfires. Plus Spitfire's have better shapes than Bones, and they personally feel better to me. Plus I'm down with having flatspots so I don't mind flat spotting my Spitfires.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Dick Butkus on May 12, 2013, 03:25:45 PM
The only thing I didn't like about spits was white wheels turning yellow real quick, that's why I only ride colored ones now. Shout out to Darin for keepin me hooked up!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: soccer mom on May 13, 2013, 04:54:02 PM
Best wheels made!
 I have had 3 pairs they don't flat spot and i'll be damned they almost don't even cone.
The only reason I ever put on new ones was purely because i had more laying around.
you can punish them with month's of power sliding and hill bombs, you won't be bummed
They cant be that good if you've gone through 3 sets and there not even out yet.
Yea, so if you actually read what I said. I did'nt "go through" 3 pairs. I just changed them out because i had more, I give them to kids at the park. So yes F4's are that good. Buy some dummies they are almost out
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on May 14, 2013, 09:19:33 PM
I just rode around on my backup board cuz it was in my trunk.
I can't stand the sound/feeling of bones stf anymore. 
my fourmula 4's still going strong, can't wait to get them in a conical shape.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: peewee on May 14, 2013, 09:27:52 PM
when the fuck are they going to release them! its May already, cmon dlx people want to try them
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on May 15, 2013, 02:22:38 AM
I just rode around on my backup board cuz it was in my trunk.
I can't stand the sound/feeling of bones stf anymore. 
my fourmula 4's still going strong, can't wait to get them in a conical shape.

Are they gonna release them in a conical/SFW shape? fuck i hope so
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fookya on May 15, 2013, 09:35:40 AM
I've been riding spitfires pretty much exclusively for the past 10 years. I've tried a few other things here and there, even jumped on the stf craze a few years ago, they just felt horrible, way to slippery and hard. not to mention the shapes are completely miserable, so much so that I would prefer a yellowing flat spotted f1. However, these past year or two I've ridden mostly spitfire classics, all of which for some strange reason haven't yellowed or got any substantial flat spots, and have out performed every f1 set i've had. I'm stoked to try the formula 4 wheels.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on May 15, 2013, 05:58:51 PM
I've been riding spitfires pretty much exclusively for the past 10 years. I've tried a few other things here and there, even jumped on the stf craze a few years ago, they just felt horrible, way to slippery and hard. not to mention the shapes are completely miserable, so much so that I would prefer a yellowing flat spotted f1. However, these past year or two I've ridden mostly spitfire classics, all of which for some strange reason haven't yellowed or got any substantial flat spots, and have out performed every f1 set i've had. I'm stoked to try the formula 4 wheels.
Bones makes 4 stf shapes for all styles of skating, if you can't find one you like you're doing it wrong
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ThugWaffle on May 15, 2013, 07:29:46 PM
Quote from: Tracer  link=topic=68020.msg1913290#msg1913290 date=1368665931
I've been riding spitfires pretty much exclusively for the past 10 years. I've tried a few other things here and there, even jumped on the stf craze a few years ago, they just felt horrible, way to slippery and hard. not to mention the shapes are completely miserable, so much so that I would prefer a yellowing flat spotted f1. However, these past year or two I've ridden mostly spitfire classics, all of which for some strange reason haven't yellowed or got any substantial flat spots, and have out performed every f1 set i've had. I'm stoked to try the formula 4 wheels.
Bones makes 4 stf shapes for all styles of skating, if you can't find one you like you're doing it wrong


Or maybe... we dont like bones.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Dick Butkus on May 15, 2013, 07:37:00 PM
Quote from: Tracer  link=topic=68020.msg1913290#msg1913290 date=1368665931
I've been riding spitfires pretty much exclusively for the past 10 years. I've tried a few other things here and there, even jumped on the stf craze a few years ago, they just felt horrible, way to slippery and hard. not to mention the shapes are completely miserable, so much so that I would prefer a yellowing flat spotted f1. However, these past year or two I've ridden mostly spitfire classics, all of which for some strange reason haven't yellowed or got any substantial flat spots, and have out performed every f1 set i've had. I'm stoked to try the formula 4 wheels.
Bones makes 4 stf shapes for all styles of skating, if you can't find one you like you're doing it wrong


Or maybe... we dont like bones.

this thread is just people arguing against Tracer for 5 pages
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on May 15, 2013, 07:47:11 PM
I just rode around on my backup board cuz it was in my trunk.
I can't stand the sound/feeling of bones stf anymore. 
my fourmula 4's still going strong, can't wait to get them in a conical shape.

Are they gonna release them in a conical/SFW shape? fuck i hope so

from what I've been told, yes.
I am very excited as well
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on May 15, 2013, 08:11:09 PM
Quote from: Tracer  link=topic=68020.msg1913290#msg1913290 date=1368665931
I've been riding spitfires pretty much exclusively for the past 10 years. I've tried a few other things here and there, even jumped on the stf craze a few years ago, they just felt horrible, way to slippery and hard. not to mention the shapes are completely miserable, so much so that I would prefer a yellowing flat spotted f1. However, these past year or two I've ridden mostly spitfire classics, all of which for some strange reason haven't yellowed or got any substantial flat spots, and have out performed every f1 set i've had. I'm stoked to try the formula 4 wheels.
Bones makes 4 stf shapes for all styles of skating, if you can't find one you like you're doing it wrong


Or maybe... we dont like bones.
Not liking bones is like saying you prefer crap wheels. Not all of us live near skateshops and can replace flatspotted wheels in an instant. I've skated for 12 years and no wheel resists flatspots better than bones.  Bones makes 100s for all you spitfire lovers, and their SPF formula is great for all you vert/ bowl skaters

You're beating a dead horse, every non sponsored skater will tell you bones are the best.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: noone1234 on May 15, 2013, 08:12:39 PM
i hate everything about you tracer
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Dick Butkus on May 15, 2013, 08:29:14 PM
Quote from: Tracer  link=topic=68020.msg1913396#msg1913396 date=1368673869
Quote from: Tracer  link=topic=68020.msg1913290#msg1913290 date=1368665931
I've been riding spitfires pretty much exclusively for the past 10 years. I've tried a few other things here and there, even jumped on the stf craze a few years ago, they just felt horrible, way to slippery and hard. not to mention the shapes are completely miserable, so much so that I would prefer a yellowing flat spotted f1. However, these past year or two I've ridden mostly spitfire classics, all of which for some strange reason haven't yellowed or got any substantial flat spots, and have out performed every f1 set i've had. I'm stoked to try the formula 4 wheels.
Bones makes 4 stf shapes for all styles of skating, if you can't find one you like you're doing it wrong


Or maybe... we dont like bones.
Not liking bones is like saying you prefer crap wheels. Not all of us live near skateshops and can replace flatspotted wheels in an instant. I've skated for 12 years and no wheel resists flatspots better than bones.  Bones makes 100s for all you spitfire lovers, and their SPF formula is great for all you vert/ bowl skaters

You're beating a dead horse, every non sponsored skater will tell you bones are the best.

Are you trying to troll, or are you just really fucking stupid, please be honest
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ThugWaffle on May 15, 2013, 08:41:07 PM
Quote from: Tracer  link=topic=68020.msg1913396#msg1913396 date=1368673869
Quote from: Tracer  link=topic=68020.msg1913290#msg1913290 date=1368665931
I've been riding spitfires pretty much exclusively for the past 10 years. I've tried a few other things here and there, even jumped on the stf craze a few years ago, they just felt horrible, way to slippery and hard. not to mention the shapes are completely miserable, so much so that I would prefer a yellowing flat spotted f1. However, these past year or two I've ridden mostly spitfire classics, all of which for some strange reason haven't yellowed or got any substantial flat spots, and have out performed every f1 set i've had. I'm stoked to try the formula 4 wheels.
Bones makes 4 stf shapes for all styles of skating, if you can't find one you like you're doing it wrong


Or maybe... we dont like bones.
Not liking bones is like saying you prefer crap wheels. Not all of us live near skateshops and can replace flatspotted wheels in an instant. I've skated for 12 years and no wheel resists flatspots better than bones.  Bones makes 100s for all you spitfire lovers, and their SPF formula is great for all you vert/ bowl skaters

You're beating a dead horse, every non sponsored skater will tell you bones are the best.

I dont have a local shop and id rather wait for my spitfires to arrive than skate bones.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on May 15, 2013, 08:41:25 PM
Quote from: Tracer �link=topic=68020.msg1913396#msg1913396 date=1368673869
Quote from: Tracer �link=topic=68020.msg1913290#msg1913290 date=1368665931
I've been riding spitfires pretty much exclusively for the past 10 years. I've tried a few other things here and there, even jumped on the stf craze a few years ago, they just felt horrible, way to slippery and hard. not to mention the shapes are completely miserable, so much so that I would prefer a yellowing flat spotted f1. However, these past year or two I've ridden mostly spitfire classics, all of which for some strange reason haven't yellowed or got any substantial flat spots, and have out performed every f1 set i've had. I'm stoked to try the formula 4 wheels.
Bones makes 4 stf shapes for all styles of skating, if you can't find one you like you're doing it wrong


Or maybe... we dont like bones.
Not liking bones is like saying you prefer crap wheels. Not all of us live near skateshops and can replace flatspotted wheels in an instant. I've skated for 12 years and no wheel resists flatspots better than bones. �Bones makes 100s for all you spitfire lovers, and their SPF formula is great for all you vert/ bowl skaters

You're beating a dead horse, every non sponsored skater will tell you bones are the best.

Are you trying to troll, or are you just really fucking stupid, please be honest
It's not an argument it's simply my opinion, go ahead and buy your spitfires just don't come back saying they flatspotted and I didn't warn you
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: noone1234 on May 15, 2013, 08:46:07 PM
your opinion has resulted in at least myself to believe that you should focus yourself.

"every non sponsored skater will tell you bones are the best."


what the fuck kind of sentence is that? every non sponsored skater is pretty much every skater and i guarantee that you don't know "every non sponsored skater." you're stupid as shit. i hate you.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Dick Butkus on May 15, 2013, 08:48:04 PM
shouts out to the mod that bumped up Tracers rep to -1000  :-*
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on May 15, 2013, 08:50:38 PM
your opinion has resulted in at least myself to believe that you should focus yourself.

"every non sponsored skater will tell you bones are the best."


what the fuck kind of sentence is that? every non sponsored skater is pretty much every skater and i guarantee that you don't know "every non sponsored skater." you're stupid as shit. i hate you.
Bro you're getting a little too heated over this. I love bones wheels and believe they're the best, as do most people

chill man, chill
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: noone1234 on May 15, 2013, 08:57:39 PM
i'll chill when my lifeless body is put on ice  :P
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dillanharp on May 15, 2013, 10:02:56 PM
Fuck Bones. When Gershon Powell, everything that had to do with that company lost credibility. I've only ever ridden spitfires though, but Bones are for some mini logo riding squares in my book.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Firebert on May 16, 2013, 03:28:09 PM
Bones STFs feel way better than Spit F1s to me. I mean sure they're gonna be more slippery when they're 3 durometers harder and never flatspot. Can't wait to try those F4s though.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ice nine on May 16, 2013, 04:12:49 PM
my local shop owner said she got a set and they were nothing like stf's, she said they were sticky feeling
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on May 18, 2013, 07:02:14 AM
They are't sticky, just not as plastic slidey feeling as bones.
Conical shape in front, classic shape in back.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/IMAG0922.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on May 18, 2013, 07:04:01 AM
side view
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/IMAG0921.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Dick Butkus on May 18, 2013, 08:36:00 AM
side view
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/IMAG0921.jpg)

I think they aren't all that shape. That's the "lock-in" shape, I actually really like the color as well.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on May 18, 2013, 08:53:40 AM
I never said they were all the same shape...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Dick Butkus on May 18, 2013, 09:06:18 AM
I never said they were all the same shape...

I know you didn't, I was just clarifying...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: peewee on May 18, 2013, 10:00:48 AM
Hey in those pics they don't look as tan off colored like in Zoltans pics
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ontheswarm on May 18, 2013, 10:07:23 AM
They are't sticky, just not as plastic slidey feeling as bones.
Conical shape in front, classic shape in back.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/IMAG0922.jpg)
Can not wait to try these. The conical shape looks nice.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on May 18, 2013, 11:43:11 AM
They are't sticky, just not as plastic slidey feeling as bones.
Conical shape in front, classic shape in back.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/IMAG0922.jpg)
Can not wait to try these. The conical shape looks nice.
sweet, thanks b.v.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: the snake on May 18, 2013, 12:07:56 PM
what is their hardness?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ThugWaffle on May 18, 2013, 12:26:52 PM
Does anybody else get the urge to like bite new wheels? no...? me neither.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: layzieyez on May 18, 2013, 12:35:33 PM
I haven't ridden a set of spitfires since 2008. I've been skating mostly bones stf and spf wheels with some satori and autobahn. I'm really excited to hear they changed the formula. I've flatted stf and spf wheels and I don't like how slippery the newer sets of bones are. I can't wait to give these things a chance. Please hurry the hell up though because you got me riding some yellowing autobahns while I wait.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: mex.ceferino on May 18, 2013, 01:11:48 PM
my local shop doesn't carry spitfire so i'll have to get em online, but don't know where to look
suggestions?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: el chino on May 18, 2013, 01:25:02 PM
google chrome?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Morty Seinfeld on May 18, 2013, 02:28:31 PM
my local shop doesn't carry spitfire so i'll have to get em online, but don't know where to look
suggestions?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on May 18, 2013, 03:43:51 PM
what is their hardness?

My friend is skating a set of 101a, so I'm assuming the softer F4 will be 100a or 99a
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Dick Butkus on May 18, 2013, 04:01:45 PM
my local shop doesn't carry spitfire so i'll have to get em online, but don't know where to look
suggestions?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hash Slinging Slasher on May 18, 2013, 07:01:42 PM
my local shop doesn't carry spitfire so i'll have to get em online, but don't know where to look
suggestions?
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/1357165/confused-o.gif)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on May 18, 2013, 08:25:46 PM
does anyone know what the Lock In conical is like compared to the Manderson Shape? i wanna try these but the thought of going back too a slimmer wheel annoys me
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on May 18, 2013, 09:24:27 PM
Here is an sfw and conical full side by side.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/IMAG0927.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on May 18, 2013, 10:46:24 PM
sweet, thanks man
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Dick Butkus on May 19, 2013, 12:39:52 PM
This isn't related to formula 4, but does anyone know what is the smallest size they make of the sfw shape?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on May 19, 2013, 07:46:43 PM
This isn't related to formula 4, but does anyone know what is the smallest size they make of the sfw shape?

i think its a 51, thats the smallest ive seen (http://socalskateshop.com/images/products/large_27225_sf-wheel-pro-SFW-andersonLG2.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Dick Butkus on May 19, 2013, 08:07:48 PM
This isn't related to formula 4, but does anyone know what is the smallest size they make of the sfw shape?

i think its a 51, thats the smallest ive seen (http://socalskateshop.com/images/products/large_27225_sf-wheel-pro-SFW-andersonLG2.jpg)

thanks man!  :-*
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Firebert on May 24, 2013, 11:31:39 AM
my local shop doesn't carry spitfire so i'll have to get em online, but don't know where to look
suggestions?
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/1357165/confused-o.gif)
bahaha DAYIM... so any word on release dates? these wheels should be out by now!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Timmy on May 24, 2013, 08:12:49 PM
Does anybody else get the urge to like bite new wheels? no...? me neither.
I do, it's like I gotta feel some kind of pressure on my wheels.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Patrick C on May 24, 2013, 10:32:52 PM
When do these come out? seems like they are filming reviews for marketing purposes.
(found these on instagram)
(http://distilleryimage0.s3.amazonaws.com/a7a71e60be8a11e2b59022000aa80136_7.jpg)
(http://[url=http://distilleryimage6.s3.amazonaws.com/c880c150b36c11e2aeda22000a1f973b_7.jpg]http://distilleryimage6.s3.amazonaws.com/c880c150b36c11e2aeda22000a1f973b_7.jpg[/url])

lol...Ricta got me with their cored line in the early 2000's I had a set of Koston cored, Arto, and Kareem Campbell's. The cored part of the wheel would get loose with repeated bearing removal. After that started skating with the Classics, then F1, then back to Classics. F1 is weird, one backside revert to a flat spot

If these are similar to Spitfire Classics in hardness but don't flatspot/wear as easy I'm sold!!
Currently skating the Cardiel conicals 55mm...now its a 51.  ;D
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Cza on May 24, 2013, 11:08:05 PM
just set up anderson fsw's. diggin em
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: zoltan on May 24, 2013, 11:20:48 PM
what is their hardness?

My friend is skating a set of 101a, so I'm assuming the softer F4 will be 100a or 99a

my F4's say 99a. They are 51mm classic shape.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: NowhereInLife on May 26, 2013, 04:32:53 PM
I'm sold.

They need to put 'em out already!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Quilmes Cerveza on May 27, 2013, 02:09:30 PM
I've had a few sets now and the Formula-Four's are the best wheels I've skated hands down. I've heard some people say they are slippery but I think they are actually a little sticky, but in a very good way. From my experience they grip just the way you would want them to on pretty much any surface, whether you're in the streets or parks on concrete, Masonite, skate lite, whatever. I will say they did feel a little foreign the first day or two compared to the F1 Street Burners but within too long they felt perfect. This is just my opinion, but game changers for sure. ? ;D
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on May 27, 2013, 10:05:36 PM
put 'em out already!


put 'em out already!
         
put 'em out already!
                 
put 'em out already!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: mex.ceferino on May 27, 2013, 10:11:18 PM
put 'em out already!


put 'em out already!
         
put 'em out already!
                 
put 'em out already![/size][/size][/size][/size]
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Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: stepfather666 on May 28, 2013, 10:46:23 PM
I've had 3 sets now, and havn't been dissapointed. I rod a set of the classics, then got a wider (conical?) shape and those were just to grippy for me, perfect skatepark wheel if thats what you're into.  Now im riding a set of classics again and i love em
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on May 29, 2013, 07:39:40 AM
I was told 2 weeks from yesterday they will be available for shops to order.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hamish on May 29, 2013, 11:08:28 PM
I was told 2 weeks from yesterday they will be available for shops to order.
Awesome.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on June 12, 2013, 04:54:36 AM
http://shop.ccs.com/product/model:205838/sku:65-06734/spitfire-formula-four-classic-wheels/red/white/?cm=searchnewarrivals#sku=65-06734 (http://shop.ccs.com/product/model:205838/sku:65-06734/spitfire-formula-four-classic-wheels/red/white/?cm=searchnewarrivals#sku=65-06734)

Looks like they're finally out
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: The Nose Face on June 12, 2013, 07:30:53 AM
I'm seeing they come in "Classic, Tablet and Full"

I can see what classic would be, so does that mean Tablet is the lock-in version, and Full is the bigger version (like the manderson/cardiel wheel).

Anyone know - B.V. you out there..?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on June 12, 2013, 07:37:26 AM
My set is marked Full and has the sidecut.
Haven't seen this tablet shape yet.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: InternetDaddy on June 12, 2013, 08:22:46 AM
for the dudes who have ridden them: would you recommend the 99 or the 101 duro? My local still doesn't have em in (the dude at the shop last time didn't even know what I was talking about when I asked), but I definitely want to try a set once they drop.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: bbk on June 12, 2013, 09:44:29 AM
for the dudes who have ridden them: would you recommend the 99 or the 101 duro? My local still doesn't have em in (the dude at the shop last time didn't even know what I was talking about when I asked), but I definitely want to try a set once they drop.
shit, mine just said "team edition", nothing about duro, now I don't know wich ones to get...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Quilmes Cerveza on June 12, 2013, 11:26:54 AM
for the dudes who have ridden them: would you recommend the 99 or the 101 duro? My local still doesn't have em in (the dude at the shop last time didn't even know what I was talking about when I asked), but I definitely want to try a set once they drop.
shit, mine just said "team edition", nothing about duro, now I don't know wich ones to get...
I've skated the ones that just said Team Edition and I think they were 101duro, but am not sure on that. I've also skated the newer editions that are marked 99duro and the 101duro, and they were both amazing. If you're skating more street and concrete I'd go with the 101's, although that's just my opinion.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on June 12, 2013, 11:35:27 AM
Quote from: The Nose Face  link=topic=68020.msg1933184#msg1933184 date=1371047453
I'm seeing they come in "Classic, Tablet and Full"

I can see what classic would be, so does that mean Tablet is the lock-in version, and Full is the bigger version (like the manderson/cardiel wheel).

Anyone know - B.V. you out there..?

I'm guessing tablet is like the bones stf v2's, on the slim side with flat sides
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on June 12, 2013, 11:49:38 AM
Just got off the phone with dlx, still not available anywhere.
CCS doesn't really have them I was told.
They are still sending them to affiliate shops to ride.
I'll post here when I get a green light that they are heading to stores.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: aaronagis on June 12, 2013, 05:44:56 PM
They are't sticky, just not as plastic slidey feeling as bones.
Conical shape in front, classic shape in back.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/IMAG0922.jpg)

Oh man, I want a set of these so badly, The Conical shape looks sick.
All I ever skate is Spitfires, I just prefer the way they skate, a very predicatble slide and grip on any terrain. I can trust Spitfire, when I skate bones, I feel like I cant trust the slide/grip the same. They just feel plastic-like or waxy... If these formula 4's are an improvement in durability I will be one happy customer. If I skate enough a set of 99s will currently last me a month at the most before they are pretty un-skateable. I just set up a pair of 54mm "trunk boys" and skated probably about 4 hours and I have some decent sized chunks missing from asphalt, and a couple flat spots. If that is fixed with these formula 4's that would just be sick.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on June 12, 2013, 06:05:16 PM
It is fixed, you will not be disappointed!
Last set I had I rode for 2 months, no flatspots, no chunks, nothing wrong, just smaller than I wanted.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on June 12, 2013, 07:17:22 PM
It is fixed, you will not be disappointed!
Last set I had I rode for 2 months, no flatspots, no chunks, nothing wrong, just smaller than I wanted.

Just the 101a or both duro's?

I do like the feel of a slightly softer wheel, but if it's not as flatspot resistant (understandable), I'll just stick to 101a
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on June 12, 2013, 07:23:50 PM
jumped the gun a little bit then, my bad. still waiting on these!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: chillout on June 12, 2013, 07:32:07 PM
It is fixed, you will not be disappointed!
Last set I had I rode for 2 months, no flatspots, no chunks, nothing wrong, just smaller than I wanted.

Just the 101a or both duro's?

I do like the feel of a slightly softer wheel, but if it's not as flatspot resistant (understandable), I'll just stick to 101a

http://reedwheels.com/product.html (http://reedwheels.com/product.html)

these are the best. feel a little softer but still slide good, never flatspot, and dont turn an ugly yellow. free shipping
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on June 12, 2013, 07:53:32 PM
It is fixed, you will not be disappointed!
Last set I had I rode for 2 months, no flatspots, no chunks, nothing wrong, just smaller than I wanted.

Just the 101a or both duro's?

I do like the feel of a slightly softer wheel, but if it's not as flatspot resistant (understandable), I'll just stick to 101a
I've ridden A bunch of different formulas with no name so not sure, probably had em.
 I am riding the 99's currently with no problems.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: benjamindanklin on June 13, 2013, 05:34:25 PM
I'll stick with stfs until reviews for these come out. Spitfire makes good wheels, I just can't afford to spend 30 dollars a month on them. I've had a pair of stfs last me like 6 months. Hopefully these won't flatspot and shit, though. Cool graphic, too.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: bbk on June 14, 2013, 10:51:07 AM
  i had mine for almost a year, barely even got smaller... they last
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: pile on June 16, 2013, 11:49:22 PM
i had a set of the blue labeled formula four's and they were awesome. i had no problems whatsoever with them, aside from the fact that i felt weird skating 52mm wheels. i'd really like to try that conical shape when they eventually make their way into stores.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ice nine on June 17, 2013, 12:55:43 AM
the bones stf's i got just flatspotted in three sessions, the last couple pairs lasted me almost a year each

why conical over the flat one?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: MostlyLurkin' on June 17, 2013, 04:50:50 PM
Seriously, what is taking them so long? Weren't they supposed to be out by the beginning of june?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hamish on June 18, 2013, 03:35:57 AM
Seriously, what is taking them so long? Weren't they supposed to be out by the beginning of june?
The firm that distributes DLX here in NZ told me that'd they had been ordered and were expected to land here at the start of July. They're still up on CCS so I would like to say they will be rolling out in the next week or two?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on June 18, 2013, 07:13:43 AM
Can't get a straight answer from my rep, I'd imagine there is a big holdup somewhere that was unforeseen manufacturing wise.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Firebert on June 25, 2013, 10:34:09 AM
Are they making a 101 conical shape?

CCS has 'em expected to ship tomorrow, but I'm not supporting that shit.

Any news on this?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: peewee on June 25, 2013, 11:09:20 PM
forget ccs, they change the date everyday haha, look tomorrow it'll say expected to ship on the 25th, and then so on and so on
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on June 26, 2013, 09:02:22 PM
went to look on ccs to see how the shapes differ.  Fucking useless, every picture is from the side except for the classic wheel.
You'd think a giant company like ccs could afford to take a few extra pictures of the product they sell.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Randozzi on June 26, 2013, 09:29:46 PM
if they have the product yet, could be using images Deluxe sent them.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on June 26, 2013, 10:18:27 PM
Shape list with sizes etc
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/SFFORMULAFOURINFOSHEET.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: MUSH MILL on June 26, 2013, 10:52:58 PM
Nice find. Was looking awhile to find out what Tablet size and shape is. Ready to get these as stf have been main park wheels over 7 years. A change to keep things fresh.  I love all the spit softer variations like 95a and 80hd. So smooth and fast. Highly recommended for dusty Masonite or oily parking lots.

190# heavy so flat spots occur at parks if I slip off ledges/rails awkwardly in unintentional powerslides. That even flat spots stf at times.

Would a wider FormulaFour will be more flat spot resistant (more surface area to lower overall slide surface area stress) than a thinner version?  Speed checking a lot with tighter than average trucks is a habit of mine that wears wheels fast too. Maybe time to go wider. Anyone know if wider wheels help prevent this? Sorry for run on sentences. Typing on phone. Can't see whole screen.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on June 27, 2013, 12:46:16 AM
Legend, thanks B.V
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on June 27, 2013, 07:10:19 AM
So it sounds like the wheels take much longer to manufacture than expected, hence the long hold up.
Was able to finally place a prebook order for wheels, said 2 week of july possibly.
 
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on June 27, 2013, 09:19:14 AM
Awesome, that works.  In case anyone is wondering, I tried zooming in on the dimensions and it wasn't very clear but I think the full shape is a bit wider than the tablet shape. 

Anyways, appreciate it b.v., I'll be purchasing the wheels off the 35th ave online shop as soon as you get the order in.
 
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on June 27, 2013, 09:30:08 AM
You are correct, the full shape is a bit wider than the tablet.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on June 27, 2013, 09:55:27 AM
Hmmm, I'm a fan of spit classics so shape is a no brainer, now to choose duro...funny they tout hi-rebound for the 99s, by that logic the 101s are low rebound? ;P
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: max power on June 27, 2013, 10:03:37 AM
i kinda want to try the 101's in the tablet shape, but now jesus fernandez rides for bones and i can get his wheels instead of jaws or whoever else.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Randozzi on June 27, 2013, 10:14:55 AM
damn good wheels.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Firebert on June 27, 2013, 11:21:02 AM
I'm definitely getting a pair of the full and tablets ASAP
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: sweat stains on June 28, 2013, 06:38:58 PM
I just got a set of the Formula 4s in 56 classic shape and I usually ride 52s... does anyone have smaller formula 4s they would want to trade for these 56s? Kind of a weird question haha
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: violentpizza on June 28, 2013, 07:28:31 PM
I got 52's in classic. Been riding them though. I usually ride bigger if be down
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: MostlyLurkin' on July 14, 2013, 06:31:18 PM
Well? Any news, b.v.?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: sweat stains on July 14, 2013, 06:35:11 PM
I just got a set of the Formula 4s in 56 classic shape and I usually ride 52s... does anyone have smaller formula 4s they would want to trade for these 56s? Kind of a weird question haha

Nate from DLX was happy to send me some formula 4's in my size, another reason I fucking love everything they do over there.

I couldn't be happier with the way they skate, been doing a bunch of powerslides and they still skate as smooth as when I first set them up. By far my favorite wheels I've ever skated and I honestly like the off white color. Thanks again Nate!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: violentpizza on July 14, 2013, 06:39:09 PM
I dig the shit out of these. I usually ride 54-55mm but I got the 101's in 52 and they are great on the street. I hit a rock on the way to the store and it just kinda slid for a bit then shot out from the wheel. Didn't pitch me. That's never happend to me ever. I like em.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: noone1234 on July 14, 2013, 09:09:39 PM
I just got a set of the Formula 4s in 56 classic shape and I usually ride 52s... does anyone have smaller formula 4s they would want to trade for these 56s? Kind of a weird question haha

Nate from DLX was happy to send me some formula 4's in my size, another reason I fucking love everything they do over there.

I couldn't be happier with the way they skate, been doing a bunch of powerslides and they still skate as smooth as when I first set them up. By far my favorite wheels I've ever skated and I honestly like the off white color. Thanks again Nate!

how did you manage to pull that?.......i could use some new wheels.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on July 14, 2013, 09:35:00 PM
Nate is A great guy.
DLX is lucky to have a fellow like him.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Randozzi on July 14, 2013, 09:37:35 PM
Nate is A great guy.
DLX is lucky to have a fellow like him.
Agreed, that cat is all heart and powerslides.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: noone1234 on July 14, 2013, 09:52:00 PM
god dammit
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: pinche gringo on July 14, 2013, 09:55:24 PM
Nate is A great guy.
DLX is lucky to have a fellow like him.
Agreed, that cat is all heart and powerslides.
Truer words are rarely spoken. Nate is top shelf.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Josh McLaughlin on July 15, 2013, 12:33:30 PM
Nate is A great guy.
DLX is lucky to have a fellow like him.
Agreed, that cat is all heart and powerslides.
Truer words are rarely spoken. Nate is top shelf.
ya he rulez
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tuna on July 16, 2013, 12:33:33 AM
So are these out yet? I've been putting off buying new wheels for about a month and a half because i wanted to get these damn things.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on July 16, 2013, 07:40:42 AM
When I got my prebook sheet a few weeks ago I was told 2nd or 3rd week of july.
Here we are, so should be shipping to shops this week.
Ill email today for an update.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Brad Breath on July 16, 2013, 04:38:12 PM
yeah, I need new wheels and have been holding off for these.

its annoying.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fookya on July 17, 2013, 01:25:20 PM
I ordered a set from ccs about a month ago, they were the first place that had them so I decided to jump on it. I have yet to receive them, and have gotten two seperate emails saying that they're back ordered and will ship within a week.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Brad Breath on July 17, 2013, 03:11:51 PM
they never had them.  No one has gotten them to sell at retail.

you basically pre-ordered them.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: iwshilvdnfinland on July 17, 2013, 06:35:55 PM
got a tour of DLXSF in SF and they gave me a set of them for free.  so psyched.  They've been great!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on July 17, 2013, 08:14:59 PM
Talked to my rep, he said after agenda next week probably.
Yeah I know....
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on July 17, 2013, 10:55:56 PM
haha oh man summer is almost over
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: the_unknown_soldier on July 18, 2013, 08:43:05 AM
got a tour of DLXSF in SF and they gave me a set of them for free.  so psyched.  They've been great!

Good enough to not go back to Bones?



I'd say so for sure. They slide and last like Bones only feel less like plastic.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Kinch on July 19, 2013, 03:51:40 PM
got a tour of DLXSF in SF and they gave me a set of them for free.  so psyched.  They've been great!

Good enough to not go back to Bones?



I'd say so for sure. They slide and last like Bones only feel less like plastic.

This sounds like the best shit ever. Can we buy some now please?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Dr Steve Brule on July 19, 2013, 05:44:47 PM
What is Classic as opposed to Tablet?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on July 19, 2013, 05:49:38 PM
What is Classic as opposed to Tablet?

b.v. posted this on the last page
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/SFFORMULAFOURINFOSHEET.jpg)

tablet is flat, full is conical.  classic is rounded, like the standard skate wheel
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: wallieD on July 19, 2013, 06:07:45 PM
What is Classic as opposed to Tablet?

b.v. posted this on the last page
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/SFFORMULAFOURINFOSHEET.jpg)

tablet is flat, full is conical.  classic is rounded, like the standard skate wheel
i can't read the dimensions after zooming in. the tablet shape seems nice though. 36.5mm wide? for what size?

edit: nevermind.. i think its 20 something instead of 30, ehhh
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Dr Steve Brule on July 19, 2013, 06:30:35 PM
Man I've been skating for almost 10 years but I couldn't tell you how wheels feel different.  I guess I've ridden "Classic" wheels most of my days, but how to these different shapes compare?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on July 19, 2013, 08:09:27 PM
What is Classic as opposed to Tablet?

b.v. posted this on the last page
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/SFFORMULAFOURINFOSHEET.jpg)

tablet is flat, full is conical.  classic is rounded, like the standard skate wheel
i can't read the dimensions after zooming in. the tablet shape seems nice though. 36.5mm wide? for what size?

edit: nevermind.. i think its 20 something instead of 30, ehhh

I struggled with it myself, but either way the width is something like Full > classic > tablet
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on July 19, 2013, 10:04:58 PM
anyone know if the full is supposed to be similar to the SFW shape? i dont think I wanna go back to a slim wheel honestly and it doesnt seem like spitfires gonna make more SFWs
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on July 19, 2013, 10:14:04 PM
anyone know if the full is supposed to be similar to the SFW shape? i dont think I wanna go back to a slim wheel honestly and it doesnt seem like spitfires gonna make more SFWs
c'mon man read the thread
Here is an sfw and conical full side by side.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/IMAG0927.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Basingstoke on July 20, 2013, 03:03:50 AM
The current Cardiel wheel seems to be the SFW shape in every but name.

What is the difference between the Bighead and the Classic Full ?

When I asked my skate shop in the UK they thought that they might get some Formula Fours to test by the end of the month, but didn't even know when the would have them to sell.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: StimCoCruzer on July 20, 2013, 03:17:23 PM
think it said they were 101a - anyone see a profile? got a width?

i havent had any good experiences with spitfire, so i always avoided them. i like a 52mm wide profile 97-98a hardness. spitfire dont really fucks with that.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on July 20, 2013, 03:22:47 PM
If they couldn't get formulas 1, 2, or 3 right, chances are these wheels will blow 2
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: MostlyLurkin' on July 21, 2013, 08:03:43 AM
If they couldn't get formulas 1, 2, or 3 right, chances are these wheels will blow 2

You dont know what the fuck you are talking about you idiot. When several SF skateboarders have been riding these wheels for almost a year it speaks for itself.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: heritage on July 21, 2013, 08:14:34 AM
The Spitfire 98a Parkburner and the cored Fireliters are my current go to wheel in the Spitfire offerings. I've been on Formula 4 tablet shape and I really like them. I'm probably going back to Parkburners, but the Formula 4 is a damn nice wheel and I understand why everyone is so hyped on them.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: edddiebyrne on July 21, 2013, 05:17:53 PM
Supposedly Jim Thiebaud is sending me some since I flat spotted some classics.  Anyone have experience with him giving you shit? Like does it actually get to you?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: MostlyLurkin' on July 21, 2013, 05:28:15 PM
Supposedly Jim Thiebaud is sending me some since I flat spotted some classics.  Anyone have experience with him giving you shit? Like does it actually get to you?

Yes. DLX dont fuck around. They take care of their customers like no one else in the business.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: edddiebyrne on July 21, 2013, 05:41:36 PM
Supposedly Jim Thiebaud is sending me some since I flat spotted some classics.  Anyone have experience with him giving you shit? Like does it actually get to you?

Yes. DLX dont fuck around. They take care of their customers like no one else in the business.

Alright cool. I sent him an email and I guess I'll be receiving some formula fours. Pretty hyped. These classics are good enough, flat spots don't bother me too much. If formula fours are more durable and slide a little better ill be sold.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: MostlyLurkin' on July 21, 2013, 05:47:10 PM
Supposedly Jim Thiebaud is sending me some since I flat spotted some classics.  Anyone have experience with him giving you shit? Like does it actually get to you?

Yes. DLX dont fuck around. They take care of their customers like no one else in the business.

Alright cool. I sent him an email and I guess I'll be receiving some formula fours. Pretty hyped. These classics are good enough, flat spots don't bother me too much. If formula fours are more durable and slide a little better ill be sold.

From what I've heard the Formula Four's is the beez neez
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: edddiebyrne on July 21, 2013, 05:51:26 PM
Supposedly Jim Thiebaud is sending me some since I flat spotted some classics.  Anyone have experience with him giving you shit? Like does it actually get to you?

Yes. DLX dont fuck around. They take care of their customers like no one else in the business.

Alright cool. I sent him an email and I guess I'll be receiving some formula fours. Pretty hyped. These classics are good enough, flat spots don't bother me too much. If formula fours are more durable and slide a little better ill be sold.

From what I've heard the Formula Four's is the beez neez

Noice noice. Big ups to them for shipping to Ohio.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: iwshilvdnfinland on July 21, 2013, 08:21:16 PM
they are great so far, but obviously pretty much any wheel will be after 2 weeks. 

talk to me in 4 months
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on July 22, 2013, 08:45:51 PM
If they couldn't get formulas 1, 2, or 3 right, chances are these wheels will blow 2

You dont know what the fuck you are talking about you idiot. When several SF skateboarders have been riding these wheels for almost a year it speaks for itself.
Theyve been riding spitfire for 10 years, you are dumb!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: benjamindanklin on July 22, 2013, 09:06:04 PM
they are great so far, but obviously pretty much any wheel will be after 2 weeks. 

talk to me in 4 months

Let us know. I'm curious about these.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: MostlyLurkin' on July 23, 2013, 04:41:33 AM
If they couldn't get formulas 1, 2, or 3 right, chances are these wheels will blow 2

You dont know what the fuck you are talking about you idiot. When several SF skateboarders have been riding these wheels for almost a year it speaks for itself.
Theyve been riding spitfire for 10 years, you are dumb!

They've been rinding the Formula Four's FOR ONE YEAR STRAIGHT, you fucking kook.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Turtle Boy on July 23, 2013, 08:06:09 AM
I have a hard time believing that a wheel manufacturer would have any interest on selling wheels that last one year without increasing the price of their wheels...
Reducing radically the frequence of purchase from your customers without increasing your margin on the wheels doesn't seem to be a good marketing strategy.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: benjamindanklin on July 23, 2013, 08:51:46 AM
I have a hard time believing that a wheel manufacturer would have any interest on selling wheels that last one year without increasing the price of their wheels...
Reducing radically the frequence of purchase from your customers without increasing your margin on the wheels doesn't seem to be a good marketing strategy.

They gotta compete with Bones, though. I'm sure a lot of people are starting to buy the STFs over Spits because they last so much longer. Me included. I don't have money to blow on wheels every single month.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: No comply on July 23, 2013, 09:38:53 AM
I have a hard time believing that a wheel manufacturer would have any interest on selling wheels that last one year without increasing the price of their wheels...
Reducing radically the frequence of purchase from your customers without increasing your margin on the wheels doesn't seem to be a good marketing strategy.

It's called market share.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ZEBRA on July 23, 2013, 10:32:10 AM
I have a hard time believing that a wheel manufacturer would have any interest on selling wheels that last one year without increasing the price of their wheels...
Reducing radically the frequence of purchase from your customers without increasing your margin on the wheels doesn't seem to be a good marketing strategy.

They gotta compete with Bones, though. I'm sure a lot of people are starting to buy the STFs over Spits because they last so much longer. Me included. I don't have money to blow on wheels every single month.

I keep reading that people are buying wheels once a month and shit. You can't just get bigger wheels?? I don't understand.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: benjamindanklin on July 23, 2013, 10:45:49 AM
I have a hard time believing that a wheel manufacturer would have any interest on selling wheels that last one year without increasing the price of their wheels...
Reducing radically the frequence of purchase from your customers without increasing your margin on the wheels doesn't seem to be a good marketing strategy.

They gotta compete with Bones, though. I'm sure a lot of people are starting to buy the STFs over Spits because they last so much longer. Me included. I don't have money to blow on wheels every single month.

I keep reading that people are buying wheels once a month and shit. You can't just get bigger wheels?? I don't understand.

I could buy giant Spitfires, but I'd rather just get stfs in the size I actually want and have them last 8 times longer. Sorry.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: edddiebyrne on July 24, 2013, 04:39:03 PM
My set will be here in a week or so. Jim said they come in 99 and 101 and he's sending me the 99s. I would rather get the 101s but they're free so I'm not going to complain. Very excited.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Carlo Lemmings on July 24, 2013, 04:46:58 PM
What's the definitive colour of these wheels? Every pic on here is a different shade  Are they beige?  Paying for yellowing wheels seems insane to me. 
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on July 24, 2013, 07:55:55 PM
I flatted my F1s a few weeks ago, they were kind enough to send me F1s as a replacement :P
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on July 24, 2013, 11:46:56 PM
What's the definitive colour of these wheels? Every pic on here is a different shade  Are they beige?  Paying for yellowing wheels seems insane to me. 

caring that much over wheel color is insane to me

it's not like they're gonna turn neon green on you
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Carlo Lemmings on July 25, 2013, 08:42:35 AM
What's the definitive colour of these wheels? Every pic on here is a different shade  Are they beige?  Paying for yellowing wheels seems insane to me.  

caring that much over wheel color is insane to me

it's not like they're gonna turn neon green on you

You think Beavis and Butthead is funny.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on July 25, 2013, 09:09:18 AM
What's the definitive colour of these wheels? Every pic on here is a different shade  Are they beige?  Paying for yellowing wheels seems insane to me.  

caring that much over wheel color is insane to me

it's not like they're gonna turn neon green on you

You think Beavis and Butthead is funny.

fuck yeah I do.  Best low brow humor of the 90's.
(http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/beavis_and_butthead.jpg)

You might as well just not ride your board and keep them white forever if you're gonna complain about minor differences in color you baby.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/iw51sg.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Carlo Lemmings on July 25, 2013, 10:19:28 AM
What's the definitive colour of these wheels? Every pic on here is a different shade  Are they beige?  Paying for yellowing wheels seems insane to me.  

caring that much over wheel color is insane to me

it's not like they're gonna turn neon green on you

You think Beavis and Butthead is funny.

fuck yeah I do.  Best low brow humor of the 90's.
(http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/beavis_and_butthead.jpg)

You might as well just not ride your board and keep them white forever if you're gonna complain about minor differences in color you baby.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/iw51sg.jpg)


No.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Noble Experiment on July 26, 2013, 06:41:34 AM
I've been skating a set for a month or so now.
I think I saw someone mention that they're like Spitfires version of STFs. Whoever said that was wrong as hell. These feel nothing like STFs. STF's are real slick and slidey, as opposed to the F4's which lean more on the grippier side when compared to STFs. Don't get me wrong, they have some slide to them, but if you're buying a set thinking you're gonna get the same slideiness as a STF wheel, then you'll be disappointed. I'd say they feel somewhat close to a SF classic in terms of how they slide and grip, just a lot more durable than an SF classic. No flatspots or little chips out of the wheel yet, so I'd say they're holding up very well so far. I don't have a car so I skate everywhere, and there's some pretty rough asphalt here, so I usually wear down wheels pretty fast, and I've noticed that these have shrunken down a teeny bit, but barely at all, so I'd say they're wearing out a very good rate. Overall I'd say they're pretty damn good wheels.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: felix. on July 26, 2013, 07:10:20 AM
i live in the uk, in a shitty town called swansea with even shitter ground. my wheels just get eaten up by the floor. i can't afford to be getting new wheels every month and shit but bones feel like plastic. i wanna get a set of these and see if they live up to all this hype, anyone know when they're coming out over here?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Firebert on July 26, 2013, 01:34:44 PM
I never thought it would take this long for these wheels to come out
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: bbk on July 26, 2013, 02:18:18 PM
I've been skating a set for a month or so now.
I think I saw someone mention that they're like Spitfires version of STFs. Whoever said that was wrong as hell. These feel nothing like STFs. STF's are real slick and slidey, as opposed to the F4's which lean more on the grippier side when compared to STFs. Don't get me wrong, they have some slide to them, but if you're buying a set thinking you're gonna get the same slideiness as a STF wheel, then you'll be disappointed. I'd say they feel somewhat close to a SF classic in terms of how they slide and grip, just a lot more durable than an SF classic. No flatspots or little chips out of the wheel yet, so I'd say they're holding up very well so far. I don't have a car so I skate everywhere, and there's some pretty rough asphalt here, so I usually wear down wheels pretty fast, and I've noticed that these have shrunken down a teeny bit, but barely at all, so I'd say they're wearing out a very good rate. Overall I'd say they're pretty damn good wheels.
did you ride the 99's? Mine were an earlier prototype that just said "team edition formula 4" and they were far from grippy, so I'm guessing you have the 99's and mine were 101
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ThugWaffle on July 26, 2013, 02:20:38 PM
I never thought it would take this long for these wheels to come out

They'll probably be out in a few weeks. Theyre worth the wait.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on July 26, 2013, 02:45:03 PM
I couldn't wait any longer and bought the one set listed eBay for $40. They're the classic shape with the blue graphic.

I was watching that auction, didn't bite tho (want 101a)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: sweat stains on July 26, 2013, 10:42:16 PM
I've been skating a set for a month or so now.
I think I saw someone mention that they're like Spitfires version of STFs. Whoever said that was wrong as hell. These feel nothing like STFs. STF's are real slick and slidey, as opposed to the F4's which lean more on the grippier side when compared to STFs. Don't get me wrong, they have some slide to them, but if you're buying a set thinking you're gonna get the same slideiness as a STF wheel, then you'll be disappointed. I'd say they feel somewhat close to a SF classic in terms of how they slide and grip, just a lot more durable than an SF classic. No flatspots or little chips out of the wheel yet, so I'd say they're holding up very well so far. I don't have a car so I skate everywhere, and there's some pretty rough asphalt here, so I usually wear down wheels pretty fast, and I've noticed that these have shrunken down a teeny bit, but barely at all, so I'd say they're wearing out a very good rate. Overall I'd say they're pretty damn good wheels.
did you ride the 99's? Mine were an earlier prototype that just said "team edition formula 4" and they were far from grippy, so I'm guessing you have the 99's and mine were 101
I have the 101 formula 4s, and they feel even more grippy than the set of parkburners I had before this which were 99
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on July 26, 2013, 10:44:06 PM
Someone post a wear test review ASAP, you just can't trust spitfire yet
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on July 27, 2013, 10:09:31 AM
I've been skating a set for a month or so now.
I think I saw someone mention that they're like Spitfires version of STFs. Whoever said that was wrong as hell. These feel nothing like STFs. STF's are real slick and slidey, as opposed to the F4's which lean more on the grippier side when compared to STFs. Don't get me wrong, they have some slide to them, but if you're buying a set thinking you're gonna get the same slideiness as a STF wheel, then you'll be disappointed. I'd say they feel somewhat close to a SF classic in terms of how they slide and grip, just a lot more durable than an SF classic. No flatspots or little chips out of the wheel yet, so I'd say they're holding up very well so far. I don't have a car so I skate everywhere, and there's some pretty rough asphalt here, so I usually wear down wheels pretty fast, and I've noticed that these have shrunken down a teeny bit, but barely at all, so I'd say they're wearing out a very good rate. Overall I'd say they're pretty damn good wheels.

If that's true then I'm really sold. Classics are some of the best feeling/riding wheels out there, I've not flatspotted a set in ages but they do wear down super fast. If the F4s are essentially durable classics, spits got a hit; there is a reason why most of the pros skate the classics.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Bliz on July 28, 2013, 11:17:27 PM
I've had nothing but terrible experiences with Spitfires in the past so all I've chosen for the last two years are bones.  Tried going back to some F1's for a month and that got old extremely quick, but I hate how slippery bones are on certain terrains, really hoping these don't disappoint
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Julz on July 29, 2013, 12:42:05 AM
I've had nothing but terrible experiences with Spitfires in the past so all I've chosen for the last two years are bones.  Tried going back to some F1's for a month and that got old extremely quick, but I hate how slippery bones are on certain terrains, really hoping these don't disappoint

Sorry to be a dick but why did you kept supporting a product that you didn't like ? Any regular skate wheels feel the same as SF so why bother paying extra money for a different graphic ?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Bliz on July 29, 2013, 06:00:59 AM
I've had nothing but terrible experiences with Spitfires in the past so all I've chosen for the last two years are bones.  Tried going back to some F1's for a month and that got old extremely quick, but I hate how slippery bones are on certain terrains, really hoping these don't disappoint

Sorry to be a dick but why did you kept supporting a product that you didn't like ? Any regular skate wheels feel the same as SF so why bother paying extra money for a different graphic ?

Thought to give them a chance after hearing multiple people come through the shop saying they liked them.  Bones are completely different from spits.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: iwshilvdnfinland on July 29, 2013, 07:31:35 PM
1 month of normal skating in.   still great and still have their shape.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Julz on July 29, 2013, 08:41:27 PM
I've had nothing but terrible experiences with Spitfires in the past so all I've chosen for the last two years are bones.  Tried going back to some F1's for a month and that got old extremely quick, but I hate how slippery bones are on certain terrains, really hoping these don't disappoint

Sorry to be a dick but why did you kept supporting a product that you didn't like ? Any regular skate wheels feel the same as SF so why bother paying extra money for a different graphic ?

Thought to give them a chance after hearing multiple people come through the shop saying they liked them.  Bones are completely different from spits.

I didn't try the F4s yet but so far IMO in the 101 grade you either like STF's or regular wheels... they all feel the same except for STF
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on August 03, 2013, 09:17:05 PM
Man, tick tock DLX, get these wheels to market already - if they're not out next week, I'm bucking up for some autobahns.

Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Brad Breath on August 04, 2013, 08:53:28 AM
Darin says two weeks and they'll be in shops.  Plus I've seen pic recently of the wheels in their retail packaging.

So...

Two weeks
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: scorpion1001 on August 04, 2013, 12:00:48 PM
Darin says two weeks and they'll be in shops.  Plus I've seen pic recently of the wheels in their retail packaging.

So...

Two weeks
nice, right at the end of summer when most young skaters are spending the majority of their time skating and not going back to school
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Morty Seinfeld on August 04, 2013, 12:15:00 PM
I hope these things are worth the wait.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: White Owl on August 04, 2013, 12:37:28 PM
I hope these things are worth the wait.

i love mine. been skating them for a couple months and they haven't flatspotted after lots of power slides which would normally flatspot my f1's.

also they havent discolored either, they are still at that light beige color, which i really am starting to like more than white
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: vegan*shawn on August 04, 2013, 12:49:00 PM
Any word on color wheels? I am bored of white wheels but really want to try out these new Spitfires!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on August 04, 2013, 02:07:29 PM
Darin says two weeks and they'll be in shops.  Plus I've seen pic recently of the wheels in their retail packaging.

So...

Two weeks

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m95mg58Hna1r3kxbwo1_500.jpg)

It's been 'a week or two' since what, May? heh.

Maybe the timing will be right and I'll be able to snag a new pair of Theeves and a set of F4s.


Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: McDonald's Hot Fudge Sundae on August 04, 2013, 02:37:21 PM
Are these wheels coming out at the end of August? Envying all the people have the hookups and say how great they are but I have never seen them for sale.

These and the "prototype" green bushings from Spitfire (or whatever name Deluxe will brand them under) are highly anticipated and have me chomping at the bit. It feels kinda feels stupid to be so excited about a set of wheels, but since skateboarding rarely has any technological updates, it is good to know that some new ideas can make a difference. I hate flat spots and I appreciate that DLX is trying to do better even though they already have such a strong team and sales. And skateboarders seem so jaded (or seriously tired of gimmicks) the fact that these Formula Fours are so well received is promising.

Not related to wheels, but as as a tech upgrade, the P2 decks seemed polarizing. Many love them, many more say (7-ply, keep it simple). The Real low pro seems less "controversial". But these wheels seem to treat everyone who has had a chance to skate them right. Not a gimmick, just an improvement. And that doesn't seem to happen that often in skateboarding.

Btw: anyone know the price point of the Formula Fours?

I hope it isn't some crazy $35-40 like those plan B pro-spec wheels. Anybody know what the deal with pro spec wheels? They has great commercials with the high speed camera. PJ Ladd grinding the bench is my favorite commercial clip of all time. That being said I never bought pro spec as they never mentioned any type of improvements outside of golf ball dimpling to keep them lighter than without. It seems as if the marketing people Syndrome chose the "more expensive = better" approach to get the new to activity, kids with pops credit card, sales when piecing together "the ultimate setup" from a CCS catalog. What I imagine would be a $99 Almost Uber Light, $120 Theeve Full titaniums, $100 Ceramic Swiss Bearings, pro spec wheels. To be skated for a month then parked in the garage until the next "cool thing" comes along.






Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: heckler on August 04, 2013, 02:38:21 PM
Grabbed another set last weekend and they're great, I've been trying my hardest to flatspot them and it's next to impossible.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Kinch on August 04, 2013, 03:37:26 PM
Quote from: McDonald's Hot Fudge Sundae  link=topic=68020.msg1969095#msg1969095 date=1375652241
Btw: anyone know the price point of the Formula Fours?


Dude who runs my local was saying they'll be ordering and selling em at the same price as STFs. This is in the UK though so could be different elsewhere.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Timmy on August 05, 2013, 12:27:10 PM
now available on ccs...
http://shop.ccs.com/product/model:205838/sku:65-06732/spitfire-formula-four-classic-wheels/blue/white/?cm=GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH#sku=65-06734&size=54 (http://shop.ccs.com/product/model:205838/sku:65-06732/spitfire-formula-four-classic-wheels/blue/white/?cm=GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH#sku=65-06734&size=54)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: coneklr on August 05, 2013, 01:20:42 PM
now available on ccs...
http://shop.ccs.com/product/model:205838/sku:65-06732/spitfire-formula-four-classic-wheels/blue/white/?cm=GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH#sku=65-06734&size=54 (http://shop.ccs.com/product/model:205838/sku:65-06732/spitfire-formula-four-classic-wheels/blue/white/?cm=GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH#sku=65-06734&size=54)

Nope, all back ordered or sold out, try again :)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: peewee on August 05, 2013, 06:09:59 PM
yeah they've been on ccs for a while now and i really envy you all who got the hook up  :-\
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: iwshilvdnfinland on August 05, 2013, 06:40:05 PM
they're still good. 
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Timmy on August 05, 2013, 09:20:01 PM
now available on ccs...
http://shop.ccs.com/product/model:205838/sku:65-06732/spitfire-formula-four-classic-wheels/blue/white/?cm=GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH#sku=65-06734&size=54 (http://shop.ccs.com/product/model:205838/sku:65-06732/spitfire-formula-four-classic-wheels/blue/white/?cm=GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH#sku=65-06734&size=54)

Nope, all back ordered or sold out, try again :)
I can see that, I guess I should of worded it differently. There's more shipping tomorrow so might as well consider them available. I saw some sizes left and only posted this to show the price and that they were available online. :)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: max power on August 06, 2013, 06:04:58 AM
are they selling them at the dlxsf store?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: the_unknown_soldier on August 06, 2013, 09:36:00 AM
Saw somebody at the park yesterday with the same F4s as me. It felt like finding a rare Pokemon in the wild.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: shred420 on August 06, 2013, 09:50:04 AM
Saw somebody at the park yesterday with the same F4s as me. It felt like finding a rare Pokemon in the wild.

i see kids with f4s all the time out here
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Firebert on August 06, 2013, 11:37:45 AM
now available on ccs...
http://shop.ccs.com/product/model:205838/sku:65-06732/spitfire-formula-four-classic-wheels/blue/white/?cm=GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH#sku=65-06734&size=54 (http://shop.ccs.com/product/model:205838/sku:65-06732/spitfire-formula-four-classic-wheels/blue/white/?cm=GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH#sku=65-06734&size=54)

Nope, all back ordered or sold out, try again :)
I can see that, I guess I should have* worded it differently. There's more shipping tomorrow so might as well consider them available. I saw some sizes left and only posted this to show the price and that they were available online. :)
That's because CCS are a piece of shit company that will sell things that they don't have. They've had them listed for months now, and they change the ship date everyday for infinite tomorrows. This way, people go and say oh! they ship tomorrow! but in fact, CCS has no idea when they are actually getting them.
DLX told me they were going to be in shops in the "middle" of August, but I think they'd rather just not let people down with something that has been so hyped.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Turtle Boy on August 06, 2013, 12:54:14 PM
Spanish ripper killing it for Spitfire

Formula-Four Spitfire Commercial by E?aut Oyarbide (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdBkFMqLKvg#ws)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on August 06, 2013, 01:03:32 PM
now available on ccs...
http://shop.ccs.com/product/model:205838/sku:65-06732/spitfire-formula-four-classic-wheels/blue/white/?cm=GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH#sku=65-06734&size=54 (http://shop.ccs.com/product/model:205838/sku:65-06732/spitfire-formula-four-classic-wheels/blue/white/?cm=GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH#sku=65-06734&size=54)

Nope, all back ordered or sold out, try again :)
I can see that, I guess I should have* worded it differently. There's more shipping tomorrow so might as well consider them available. I saw some sizes left and only posted this to show the price and that they were available online. :)
That's because CCS are a piece of shit company that will sell things that they don't have. They've had them listed for months now, and they change the ship date everyday for infinite tomorrows. This way, people go and say oh! they ship tomorrow! but in fact, CCS has no idea when they are actually getting them.
DLX told me they were going to be in shops in the "middle" of August, but I think they'd rather just not let people down with something that has been so hyped.
Its not CCS it's the fact that Spitfire is a dumbass company that can't make enough good wheels to ship out. They are more expensive than STF ffs
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hash Slinging Slasher on August 06, 2013, 01:55:56 PM
Spanish ripper killing it for Spitfire

Formula-Four Spitfire Commercial by E?aut Oyarbide (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdBkFMqLKvg#ws)
More important than F4s, what was that witchcraft at 1:53?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Noble Experiment on August 07, 2013, 12:29:30 AM
Quote
DLX told me they were going to be in shops in the "middle" of August, but I think they'd rather just not let people down with something that has been so hyped.
I have a feeling that they are seriously overdoing it with the hype and building them up. Like I said earlier in my little review about them, I think they're good wheels, but I have a feeling that some people are going to be expecting some sort of miracle magic wheel and then be thoroughly disappointed when they find out that they're just normal wheels that just happen to be pretty good and a bit more durable than your average wheel.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Firebert on August 07, 2013, 09:36:09 AM
Quote
DLX told me they were going to be in shops in the "middle" of August, but I think they'd rather just not let people down with something that has been so hyped.
I have a feeling that they are seriously overdoing it with the hype and building them up. Like I said earlier in my little review about them, I think they're good wheels, but I have a feeling that some people are going to be expecting some sort of miracle magic wheel and then be thoroughly disappointed when they find out that they're just normal wheels that just happen to be pretty good and a bit more durable than your average wheel.
I have yet to try the 101 f4, but 99s feel pretty magical to me
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on August 07, 2013, 12:00:22 PM
Spanish ripper killing it for Spitfire

Formula-Four Spitfire Commercial by E?aut Oyarbide (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdBkFMqLKvg#ws)
More important than F4s, what was that witchcraft at 1:53?

For real...I thought the same thing.

The wheels sound hard to me. I doubt they are lightening in a bottle and there a tons of good wheel companies out there.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: heritage on August 07, 2013, 12:19:42 PM
Anyone ever ride Satori Mandala wheels? I ride Parkburners, but am interested in the Mandala as they are also 98a.

there a tons of good wheel companies out there.

For real.

Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Life Fast Johnny on August 07, 2013, 01:09:24 PM
Anyone ever ride Satori Mandala wheels? I ride Parkburners, but am interested in the Mandala as they are also 98a.

Local dude swears by them.  They seem to last him a long time too.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Brad Breath on August 07, 2013, 08:49:09 PM
The guys at DLX shop say Formula 4's will be in shops next week.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ZEBRA on August 08, 2013, 04:05:33 PM
Spanish ripper killing it for Spitfire

Formula-Four Spitfire Commercial by E?aut Oyarbide (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdBkFMqLKvg#ws)

I'm in love with that skatepark.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on August 12, 2013, 01:59:26 AM
Looks like these things are finally fucking out! http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=38412 (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=38412)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Brad Breath on August 12, 2013, 07:02:02 AM
of course...

I order a deck from Socal on Saturday and these bitches go online on Monday.

FML
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: LeakThis on August 12, 2013, 08:37:47 AM
just ordered 52 in the 101 thanks for the heads up had mine on back order since june 16 at ccs fuck them fools
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: sweat stains on August 12, 2013, 05:33:18 PM
been riding mine for a month now, and the best way to describe it is that they feel like brand new classics every time you skate them. Not a single thing wrong with the wheels after a month, not the slightest flatspot and no little chunks in the wheels like the last Spitfires I've had. You gotta buy these wheels!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Firebert on August 13, 2013, 01:59:34 PM
I've been riding the f4 99s for a few months now, here's my 2cents: they feel nice and grippy around corners and provide a very slick yet controllable slide on bluntslides. They seem like a great replacement for spitfire classics for people who don't want to slide all over the place but still want to maintain tons of speed. Thanks to Nate for hooking me up, I'll post a more lengthy review after I set up the 101s.

I did manage to get a flatspot after a few stand up powerslides on smooth concrete, but keep in mind I was trying to flatspot them.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Josh McLaughlin on August 13, 2013, 02:42:46 PM
my local shop just got them in, guessing others will soon now. go out and get a set, they are flippin killer!!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hash Slinging Slasher on August 13, 2013, 07:58:46 PM
This may be a dumb question, but are 99s or 101s harder?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on August 13, 2013, 08:10:14 PM
This may be a dumb question, but are 99s or 101s harder?

Both durometers are part of the A scale.

101a > 99a

101a wheels are harder than 99a wheels by two points of the A scale.

I've been staring at a shopping cart with both 99a and 101a wheels sitting in it. Such a small gap in duro. I'm a fan of the classics so I am leaning towards the 99a classics (and since I'm not skating any park, where I'd want a harder wheel), I guess I should stick to the 99a.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: White Owl on August 13, 2013, 09:58:25 PM
This may be a dumb question, but are 99s or 101s harder?

Both durometers are part of the A scale.

101a > 99a

101a wheels are harder than 99a wheels by two points of the A scale.

I've been staring at a shopping cart with both 99a and 101a wheels sitting in it. Such a small gap in duro. I'm a fan of the classics so I am leaning towards the 99a classics (and since I'm not skating any park, where I'd want a harder wheel), I guess I should stick to the 99a.

the 99a F4's have been good to me in park and street. i dont see the reason for harder wheels, if you need to slide, simply put on a little wax
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on August 13, 2013, 11:03:53 PM
They both feel pretty hard, the 101's are a little slicker on the smooth parks.
The 99s feel far from soft, loud screeching when you slide.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: n8a on August 14, 2013, 09:43:02 AM
Any word on color wheels? I am bored of white wheels but really want to try out these new Spitfires!

Colored Formula Fours will roll out in the coming months. Just white for now.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hash Slinging Slasher on August 15, 2013, 08:58:24 AM
I might be getting a set of these today, so do people recommend the 99s or 101s? I guess I'll be skating mostly park, but the one I skate most is just asphalt. I might find my self in all concrete parks or on the streets as well. I read somewhere else that the 101s are very slidy and I kind of wanted to get away from the feeling of the bones I have now.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Firebert on August 15, 2013, 01:14:04 PM
I'd recommend the 99's for asphalt
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hash Slinging Slasher on August 15, 2013, 01:19:44 PM
I'd recommend the 99's for asphalt
Good, because that's what I got.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: No comply on August 15, 2013, 04:46:44 PM
I hope they make the full shape larger than a 55. Otherwise I won't try them.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: max power on August 15, 2013, 04:54:52 PM
got some 52mm tablet 101's. like them a lot so far. coming right off bones stf's, so i don't notice them being any slicker.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Brad Breath on August 15, 2013, 05:09:25 PM
Waiting on some 52/101 classics to arrive.  I am super stoked.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: yeahisaidit on August 15, 2013, 08:02:37 PM
Bones took for granted the durability of their wheels. Yes they feel like plastic, but they last a long time, slide when you want to, and stay white. But they have the absolute worst team and graphics. For making as quality of a product as STF, how they can't build a team that reflects that is pathetic. No I don't wanna buy a Jordan Hoffart, Adam Dyet, or Chad Bartie wheel. Bones swiss are clearly the bearings by which all other are measured, and paid pros will buy or trade for those bearings. Bones wheels should have followed suit and paid attention to classic aesthetics. The thing that spitfire has going for them is their image and the fact that the world backs them. It was only a matter of time before they made a product their patrons have been waiting on. I'm glad these took time to come out. I bought the 101s 54 mm yesterday, and yes while most wheels feel great after a day, these clearly felt how I imagine wheels to feel like. And yes they slide great. Even if the formula four last 3/4 of the time as long as stf, bones is gonna see a large decrease in sales because of these.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on August 15, 2013, 08:13:49 PM
Any folks on here without a local shop that stocks them feel free to email my shop with questions or orders.
info@35thavenue.com
Size and shape wise we have

99a classic shape
51
52
53
54
58

99a full shape

51
55

101 a classic shape
51
52
54
58

We ship internationally too.
Stoked to read all the positive feedback on these!
Dave
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on August 15, 2013, 08:56:20 PM
http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/)

Sizes shapes and other dimensions on here as well as a fucked up businitz clip
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hamish on August 15, 2013, 09:06:54 PM
I can't hold powerslides for shit and I've been riding STFs for the last few years so I'm not sure which duro I should grab.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on August 16, 2013, 02:38:53 AM
I can't hold powerslides for shit and I've been riding STFs for the last few years so I'm not sure which duro I should grab.

I read on the spitfire facebook that theyve been told the 99s feel comparable to STFs
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: n8a on August 16, 2013, 08:11:14 AM
I can't hold powerslides for shit and I've been riding STFs for the last few years so I'm not sure which duro I should grab.

The 99's slide really good but the 101s are a bit slicker. A harder wheel is generally going to slide better because it will have less friction. Either way they slide great and feel completely different than a STF.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: MostlyLurkin' on August 16, 2013, 08:15:05 AM
Got the 99's in the mail today(thanks Nate!!!). Can't wait to try them out
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Basingstoke on August 16, 2013, 03:30:23 PM
How do the formula four 99s compare to regular formula Spitfire 99s ?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Randozzi on August 16, 2013, 03:44:39 PM
better slide, last longer and they will get you laid.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dillanharp on August 16, 2013, 04:01:21 PM
Ugh, been putting off buying wheels for these things, still none in the shop. 45 minutes from San Francisco and we can't get the wheels! I blame the rep.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: MostlyLurkin' on August 16, 2013, 08:37:25 PM
Ugh, been putting off buying wheels for these things, still none in the shop. 45 minutes from San Francisco and we can't get the wheels! I blame the rep.

They're probably worth the drive to 1831 Market Street... Just sayin'
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dillanharp on August 17, 2013, 12:30:16 AM
Ugh, been putting off buying wheels for these things, still none in the shop. 45 minutes from San Francisco and we can't get the wheels! I blame the rep.

They're probably worth the drive to 1831 Market Street... Just sayin'
Fucking Atlas can get them but Circle A can't?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: vegan*shawn on August 17, 2013, 09:37:38 AM
Going to get some of these when I get some extra money. Everyone I know who has them keeps raving about them, I hate being left out on the cool new stuff :)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: McCly on August 17, 2013, 10:00:43 AM
That Busenitz clip alone sold me.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: tony volume on August 17, 2013, 02:06:50 PM
Ugh, been putting off buying wheels for these things, still none in the shop. 45 minutes from San Francisco and we can't get the wheels! I blame the rep.
What shop do you go to? 510 and milo got em!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Latarian Milton on August 17, 2013, 07:38:40 PM
Ugh, been putting off buying wheels for these things, still none in the shop. 45 minutes from San Francisco and we can't get the wheels! I blame the rep.

They're probably worth the drive to 1831 Market Street... Just sayin'
Fucking Atlas can get them but Circle A can't?

What's wrong with taking a trip to Atlas to get em?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: PeanutGallery on August 18, 2013, 06:34:25 PM
^^ Ive wanted to try these out but had a feeling that may occur. Ive flatspotted my bones before but they somehow even themselves out...you think that'll happen with your fours or are they completely done?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tuna on August 18, 2013, 09:58:17 PM
i back lipped an unwaxed ledge within minutes of setting them up and they didn't flatspot. also threw a powerslide around a corner at the skatepark, and kinda slid out, which i would normally expect a flatspot to occur from, and didn't get one. Sold on these bad boys so far.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on August 19, 2013, 03:42:47 AM
cant wait to try those when they arrive in central europe in 2 or 3 years.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on August 19, 2013, 04:09:57 AM
cant wait to try those when they arrive in central europe in 2 or 3 years.

...and portugal in the next century!   :-\
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on August 19, 2013, 07:31:51 AM
^^ Ive wanted to try these out but had a feeling that may occur. Ive flatspotted my bones before but they somehow even themselves out...you think that'll happen with your fours or are they completely done?
Plenty of testimonials from people in this topic who have ridden them for months and had no issues.
Then again any wheel can flatspot, but these resist them better than anything else I have skated in years.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: The Drew on August 19, 2013, 07:38:33 AM
my friend uchi who rides for spitfire in Japan didn't really like them but i ordered a set to try out anyway (my local should get them sometime this week)... if i dont like them ill just give them to someone at the park and use the brand new set of autobahns sitting on my floor.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: n8a on August 19, 2013, 10:15:57 AM
cant wait to try those when they arrive in central europe in 2 or 3 years.

Hopefully our distributor there will order sooner than that! Let your shops know there is a demand so they can pas the message along!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: n8a on August 19, 2013, 10:20:27 AM
Ugh, been putting off buying wheels for these things, still none in the shop. 45 minutes from San Francisco and we can't get the wheels! I blame the rep.

The wheels are available to all of our accounts. If they don't order them we cant do much about that. Sorry man the emails and phone calls were made to all of our accounts on the same day and were made available to al shops on the same day. Also Atlas and Circle A are both amazing shops worth supporting. A trip into either is a good choice.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Bubblegum Tate on August 19, 2013, 11:42:31 AM
http://www.rippedlaces.com/2013/08/spitfire-formula-four-review/ (http://www.rippedlaces.com/2013/08/spitfire-formula-four-review/)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Babby on August 19, 2013, 11:48:19 AM
Throw your bones in the trash, these wheels are worth every penny.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Firebert on August 19, 2013, 11:49:16 AM
I really like the 101's. They slide like STFs but don't feel like shit.
The 99s are awesome too, but the 101's are exactly what I've been wanting in a wheel. Also, love the Tablet shape.
(http://distilleryimage1.ak.instagram.com/46a6e41a082711e3b4f522000ae908a3_7.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: The Nose Face on August 19, 2013, 12:23:16 PM
I really like the 101's. They slide like STFs but don't feel like shit.
The 99s are awesome too, but the 101's are exactly what I've been wanting in a wheel. Also, love the Tablet shape.
(http://distilleryimage1.ak.instagram.com/46a6e41a082711e3b4f522000ae908a3_7.jpg)

I wanted to try out the 101 Tablet shape - is it similar to a "lock in" shape, Firebert?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Firebert on August 19, 2013, 12:57:19 PM
Quote from: The Nose Face  link=topic=68020.msg1979132#msg1979132 date=1376940196
I really like the 101's. They slide like STFs but don't feel like shit.
The 99s are awesome too, but the 101's are exactly what I've been wanting in a wheel. Also, love the Tablet shape.
(http://www.spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/img/specs-101dt.png)

I wanted to try out the 101 Tablet shape - is it similar to a "lock in" shape, Firebert?
Yeah, similar the the bones v2 shape, flip sidecuts, etc.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: peewee on August 19, 2013, 03:00:58 PM
i got a little problem, my bearings are sliding out of the wheels. So im constantly checking and always having to push the bearings back in with my thumbs

is this happening to anyone else? hope im not the only one
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: McDonald's Hot Fudge Sundae on August 19, 2013, 09:30:52 PM
Eric, are they the tablet shaped formula fours?  I have heard Bones STF in v2 shape can do so as well, but has not yet happened to me so far.

I had the same problem with some 54mm wheels I got as a promo from Black Label named Revolution. Revolution Wheels. I think they were poured by creative and similar to momentum and autobahn. But the bearings on right rear would slip a bit and it would feel slower and bumpy. Like an almost flat spot. It was super annoying so I gave them away to some kids who just play skate. As they would stay in rolling straight. But any grinding or shifty slides would slip them up.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: peewee on August 19, 2013, 11:01:07 PM
no they are classic shape. And yeah i had some bones V2s a couple years ago that did the same thing

yeah i see what you mean, whenever i do a feeble most likely the bearing is sliding out
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: McDonald's Hot Fudge Sundae on August 19, 2013, 11:25:56 PM
What always bothered them for me was when doing a "reverse edger grind" while rounding a corner of a bowl. But from on top. Similar to skating a sidewalk and slash grinding the edge. It also pops cores on soft wheels so I never do that anymore on store board setups. Have been liking the v2 and really liking the look of the tablet fours. Will be my next set of hard wheels. Finally they are on the market!!! I ride 8.5 with standard 149 Indies so weight savings a plus. But mainly for the lock in. The way they positively lock into SF smith in bowls is best feeling ever. Getting ready to learn back smiths. All I can do so far is turn into them and stall. Got to get the balls to throw it in with speed. 
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: n8a on August 20, 2013, 08:03:38 AM
i got a little problem, my bearings are sliding out of the wheels. So im constantly checking and always having to push the bearings back in with my thumbs

is this happening to anyone else? hope im not the only one

I believe our customer service department contacted you already but if not please shoot me an email to nate@dlxsf.com and we will get that sorted out.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on August 20, 2013, 10:18:54 AM
Has anyone tried them in bowls? I need a new set of pool/bowl wheels, around 56mm.

Too bad he tablets max out at 53mm or I'd grab them in 56mm; are these built with ledge/rail in mind?

Spit, make a cored F4 wheel for pools ;)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: McDonald's Hot Fudge Sundae on August 20, 2013, 11:06:01 AM
The idea of a cored wheel in 56-58 with the formula four urethane I would buy too.  I know the super light marketing gets a lot of criticism, but it is nice to have best of both at parks. Weight doesn't really matter too much on big transitions. But for parks that have ledges and "street course" obstacles I can be a little more consistent on a lighter setup. Wheel weight seems to affect my ability maybe because it is further out and not centralized. So it can make a board feel heavier.

I have had setups with heavy trucks and light wheels. And light trucks with heavier wheels. With both weighing the same, the heavy wheeled board responds differently and the weight is felt. Not bad, just different. Maybe it is the center of gravity. Similar to the idea behind Low Pro decks, which some immediately like and others are indifferent to.

And 8.38/8.5 low pro with titanium hollow 149ers with the idea of formula four FireLites in 56-58mm would make for a legit all terrain board that does not respond like a super tanker. No gimmicks, just sound physics. I have many heavier setups which skate well. But am open to going lighter if gear is made by legit brands for legit reasons.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Turtle Boy on August 20, 2013, 12:15:41 PM
Quote from: McDonald's Hot Fudge Sundae  link=topic=68020.msg1979851#msg1979851 date=1377021961
The idea of a cored wheel in 56-58 with the formula four urethane I would buy too.  I know the super light marketing gets a lot of criticism, but it is nice to have best of both at parks. Weight doesn't really matter too much on big transitions. But for parks that have ledges and "street course" obstacles I can be a little more consistent on a lighter setup. Wheel weight seems to affect my ability maybe because it is further out and not centralized. So it can make a board feel heavier.

I have had setups with heavy trucks and light wheels. And light trucks with heavier wheels. With both weighing the same, the heavy wheeled board responds differently and the weight is felt. Not bad, just different. Maybe it is the center of gravity. Similar to the idea behind Low Pro decks, which some immediately like and others are indifferent to.

And 8.38/8.5 low pro with titanium hollow 149ers with the idea of formula four FireLites in 56-58mm would make for a legit all terrain board that does not respond like a super tanker. No gimmicks, just sound physics. I have many heavier setups which skate well. But am open to going lighter if gear is made by legit brands for legit reasons.

You're actually right, it sounds physics, but there are too much parameters to be taken into account to think it will have an influence other than psychological on your skateboard.
Skating without your wallet or keys would rather have an higher impact on your skateboarding than those gimmicks.

That being said the strenght of the mind is considerable, so I can understand you feel a real difference.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ontheswarm on August 21, 2013, 12:51:34 PM
Really liking the wheels so far. No flat spots on anything that I would normally get flat spots on instantly. The 99s grip very well. Went to a local indoor park that I normally slide out very easy because everything is so waxed and the wood they use. They gripped amazing. Only complaint was doing a slappy crook on a curb and my inside wheel has some severe chipping and I just got them last Saturday. Anyone else have problems with chipping?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Dirty_Ratlips on August 22, 2013, 08:50:28 AM
Im asking a friend who is flying to New York in two weeks to buy me a pair!
Because these wheels will go for like 70-90 dollars in Sweden.

Does anyone from there know any shops who has them yet?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: The Nose Face on August 22, 2013, 09:24:06 AM
Im asking a friend who is flying to New York in two weeks to buy me a pair!
Because these wheels will go for like 70-90 dollars in Sweden.

Does anyone from there know any shops who has them yet?

These are all pretty good bets

beliefnyc.com
laborskateshop.com
kcdcskateshop.com
blades.com
supremenewyork.com
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Morty Seinfeld on August 22, 2013, 11:25:52 AM
Seasonsskateshop.bigcartel.com will have them
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: bbk on August 24, 2013, 07:38:37 AM
Im asking a friend who is flying to New York in two weeks to buy me a pair!
Because these wheels will go for like 70-90 dollars in Sweden.

Does anyone from there know any shops who has them yet?
Hollywood in Gothenburg has them and they'll be up on the webshop next week, they're 499:-
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Brad Breath on August 24, 2013, 08:36:16 AM
I've noticed prices all over the board for them. From $39.95 to $55.  What's the MSRP?

Some "skateshops"...ahem... are shady as fuck these days.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: coneklr on August 24, 2013, 08:57:56 AM
I've noticed prices all over the board for them. From $39.95 to $55.  What's the MSRP?

Some "skateshops"...ahem... are shady as fuck these days.

Gonna say $35 as that is where most online places have them selling for as well as a couple shops close to me.  My new favorite semi local shop has them for $33 http://www.seasonsskateshop.bigcartel.com/category/wheels (http://www.seasonsskateshop.bigcartel.com/category/wheels)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: max power on August 24, 2013, 09:38:48 AM
i paid $35 at dlx.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Noble Experiment on August 24, 2013, 10:07:19 AM
It's been about two months since I've had a set, and I have to say they are holding up very well.
In my last review I said they shrunk down a bit skating them in the time I've had them, but after the first month or so they stopped shrinking, they've pretty much just stayed the same from that point on. It's pretty weird, but really awesome. They shrunk down a couple of millimeters the first month I skated them since I pretty much skate everywhere and the ground here ain't the smoothest, but then they pretty much just reached a certain point and stopped shrinking from there, and I still skate everywhere on the rough ass ground here. Like I said, it's pretty weird but also pretty damn awesome.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: InternetDaddy on August 24, 2013, 11:20:39 AM
I just bought a set of the full shapes yesterday, probably going to set them up tonight. The only weird thing is that one wheel is lighter (color wise) than the other three. Probably nothing, but I thought it was strange.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Matt Mazza on August 24, 2013, 12:48:08 PM
The 101a are slick as hell. Really fun to powerslide on but I was always nervous taking turns at high speeds. One time I was carving a bowl and all of a sudden just started bs powersliding this corner. I havent tried the 99as yet I wish they would make them in 100s!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Morty Seinfeld on August 24, 2013, 12:50:50 PM
I got the 99 classic shapes in a 53. Haven't set them up yet but these good reviews seem very promising.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: vegan*shawn on August 24, 2013, 01:35:58 PM
Local shop got them, but the 99a where sold out except for 52 and that's to small for me, going to get some maybe next week.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dillanharp on August 24, 2013, 01:51:48 PM
I've noticed prices all over the board for them. From $39.95 to $55.  What's the MSRP?

Some "skateshops"...ahem... are shady as fuck these days.

Don't pay over $35... That's fucked.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: sweat stains on August 24, 2013, 05:52:29 PM
29.95 on so cal skateshop
http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=1955&l=product_list&sortby=id:desc (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=1955&l=product_list&sortby=id:desc)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: layzieyez on August 24, 2013, 09:55:48 PM
29.95 on so cal skateshop
http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=1955&l=product_list&sortby=id:desc (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=1955&l=product_list&sortby=id:desc)
That's where I ordered mine.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fulfillthedream on August 24, 2013, 11:44:58 PM
Most spitfires at 510 skateboarding in bekreley always had em for $28 and bones stfs were $35 so I'm sure the formula 4s should be about the same as regular spits. There's no price difference between regular spitfires and the f1s
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: darkslideoftheforce on August 25, 2013, 05:26:51 AM
In Norway they cost the same as regular spitfires/f1s
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on August 25, 2013, 09:08:15 AM
Most spitfires at 510 skateboarding in bekreley always had em for $28 and bones stfs were $35 so I'm sure the formula 4s should be about the same as regular spits. There's no price difference between regular spitfires and the f1s
Suggested retail from deluxe is $35.00
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: snowman600 on August 25, 2013, 07:21:04 PM
I got some 99 classic shapes in 54. considering how these have been so far for powerslides, i'd be scared to try 101's.
no complaints so far.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: max power on August 25, 2013, 07:22:51 PM
the 101's are definitely grippier than STF's. didn't feel like i was sliding out constantly on a metal quarter, but used to with the bones.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: DeputyDoses on August 25, 2013, 08:08:27 PM
I've been skating strictly bones stf's for around four years now. How hard would it be to get used to the 99a formula fours?
Has anyone made the transition from Bones STF's to 99a Formula Fours?

I love the feel of sliding really well on ledges that aren't caked with wax, but it's a bitch to slide out at parks all of the time.
If anything, I'll just opt for the 101a wheels --- I'm just looking for some feedback
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on August 26, 2013, 08:15:18 AM
I've been skating strictly bones stf's for around four years now. How hard would it be to get used to the 99a formula fours?
Has anyone made the transition from Bones STF's to 99a Formula Fours?

I love the feel of sliding really well on ledges that aren't caked with wax, but it's a bitch to slide out at parks all of the time.
If anything, I'll just opt for the 101a wheels --- I'm just looking for some feedback
The classic shaped 99s slide really well and screech, but 101's will be a better replacement.
I only noticed the slickness at one new skatepark that is pretty damn fast.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Lenny the Fatface on August 26, 2013, 07:41:27 PM
These F4's are the truth, I was shocked how responsive they are.  If everyone's wheels are sliding like mine are, expect the next magenta vid to literally be the silliest shit of all time hahaha.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: mex.ceferino on August 26, 2013, 11:02:19 PM
I've been skating strictly bones stf's for around four years now. How hard would it be to get used to the 99a formula fours?
Has anyone made the transition from Bones STF's to 99a Formula Fours?

I love the feel of sliding really well on ledges that aren't caked with wax, but it's a bitch to slide out at parks all of the time.
If anything, I'll just opt for the 101a wheels --- I'm just looking for some feedback

me. just set my 101 54mm today and i must say i goddamn im sold
what i loved/hated about bones was the easiness and effortlessness to powerslide.
with these you can actually feel the grippiness the F4s have on the ground right away and you can powerslide about the same(but gotta put more weight/go slightly faster)
zero flatspots
made me feel much more confident and had control over the board than being slippery with bones.
also, slappys felt easier on classical shape than stf tablets, but thats just me
AND theyre louder!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: BRIX SKWIKZ on August 26, 2013, 11:26:42 PM
ARE THEY BETTER THAN THE BONES MINICUBICS ?

OF COURSE NOT
BONES MINICUBICS GRIP LIKE GORILLA PAWS
POWERSLIDE WITH STYLE
AND THE DOUBLE ROUNDED EDGES ARE PERFECT FOR COPING, CURBS AND XTREME LANDINGS


BUT MAYBE I WOULD TRY A F4 IF THEY CAME IN 64
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Firebert on August 27, 2013, 01:02:24 PM
These F4's are the truth, I was shocked how responsive they are.  If everyone's wheels are sliding like mine are, expect the next magenta vid to literally be the silliest shit of all time hahaha.
I was thinking the same thing as I was powersliding over double pump humps and down stairs at the park
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Beer Keg Peg Leg on August 28, 2013, 02:58:41 AM
its kind of stupid how slick the 101s are... it doesn't even feel like a powerslide and makes no noise :( i might have to get the 99s
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on August 28, 2013, 07:37:55 AM
its kind of stupid how slick the 101s are... it doesn't even feel like a powerslide and makes no noise :( i might have to get the 99s
Did you get new bearings as well?
Do you tighten your wheels up a lot too?
Both those things make new wheels feel a bit weird.
Just a thought.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dethcomic on August 28, 2013, 08:09:21 AM
Got the 99s in the full shape. They look and feel so good
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: darkslideoftheforce on August 28, 2013, 10:17:45 AM
Got the 99's in 54, can't wait to set them up. Just gotta tear through these shitty shop wheels first.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Firebert on August 28, 2013, 11:32:46 AM
its kind of stupid how slick the 101s are... it doesn't even feel like a powerslide and makes no noise :( i might have to get the 99s
I've had my 101s for a little over a week now and they are starting to screech
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: bbk on August 28, 2013, 02:03:14 PM
its kind of stupid how slick the 101s are... it doesn't even feel like a powerslide and makes no noise :( i might have to get the 99s
I've had my 101s for a little over a week now and they are starting to screech
yeah, the first few slides were slippery as fuck, but they're getting better!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: DeputyDoses on August 28, 2013, 03:03:36 PM
Thanks for the feedback! I'm sold.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: tangar on August 28, 2013, 03:15:57 PM
Nallid bought some for himself last week and fronted me money for mine too. I got 52 classic 99s and took em out for the first time today. went to Roosevelt skatepark in SJ and was expecting some slippin and slidin but they actually gripped really well and slid super good on the ledge. I think Nallid flatspotted his so if they don't smooth out and Circle-A doesn't swap em out im sure he will be hitting up that warranty action. Thanks again Nallid!   
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Beer Keg Peg Leg on August 28, 2013, 05:33:47 PM
its kind of stupid how slick the 101s are... it doesn't even feel like a powerslide and makes no noise :( i might have to get the 99s
Did you get new bearings as well?
Do you tighten your wheels up a lot too?
Both those things make new wheels feel a bit weird.
Just a thought.

yeah new bones swiss, maybe thats the case. ill keep skating em regardless but glad to hear they feel better after a bit
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: TheKraken on August 28, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
Spitfire is blowing it lately Darkstar and Bones have  flatspot guarantees on their wheels. If formula 4 doesn't work out I will never trust them again
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: bbk on August 29, 2013, 01:56:10 AM
Spitfire is blowing it lately Darkstar and Bones have  flatspot guarantees on their wheels. If formula 4 doesn't work out I will never trust them again
Bones doesn't have that anymore
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: InternetDaddy on August 29, 2013, 05:13:07 AM
pretty sure darkstar just has that because not enough people ride their wheels to prove them wrong.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: the_unknown_soldier on August 29, 2013, 09:15:27 AM
I actually had a set of Darkstar wheels years back and they were great.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fulfillthedream on August 29, 2013, 09:17:29 AM
so i've been riding f1's for the last 2 years and they work great. im really looking forward to trying the f4's.. i know the f1's are 101..how's the difference from f1's to the 101 f4's??
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dillanharp on August 29, 2013, 11:32:42 AM
I was all excited after I set them up last Friday, I hauled ass out of my apartment complex, got 50 feet and hit a pebble and ate shit, hard.  Flatspot in literally 30 seconds.  I thought it might skate out, but no luck so far.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Firebert on August 29, 2013, 11:54:47 AM
so i've been riding f1's for the last 2 years and they work great. im really looking forward to trying the f4's.. i know the f1's are 101..how's the difference from f1's to the 101 f4's??
night and day
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on August 29, 2013, 01:46:05 PM
I was all excited after I set them up last Friday, I hauled ass out of my apartment complex, got 50 feet and hit a pebble and ate shit, hard.  Flatspot in literally 30 seconds.  I thought it might skate out, but no luck so far.

shit, well I hope my new 99s hold up,  the set I got pre-release have been fine since I've gotten them

Hit up dlx!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: coneklr on August 29, 2013, 02:30:17 PM
Hooked up my set today!  Love them!  Obviously I only have a few hours on them but so far they're really good.  The spot I skate is really smooth but very grippy if that makes sense.  Your 180/360 tricks need to be fully turned, you will not slide out.  Anyway with these wheels they felt pretty much the same rolling around and shit but they were definitely more forgiving when you want to slide.  I'll check back in after a few more sessions and see if I change my mind.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: sweat stains on August 29, 2013, 04:37:24 PM
It's funny, you know when you see web ads for say, spitfire classics, and of course they say, "they're the best wheels, don't flatspot, grip when you want and slide when you want" but in reality they're kind of shitty? For me these wheels actually are that wheel that every wheel says they are. I've been skating them for like two months and I'll probably never skate anything besides F4's after this.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on August 29, 2013, 05:34:33 PM
I was all excited after I set them up last Friday, I hauled ass out of my apartment complex, got 50 feet and hit a pebble and ate shit, hard.  Flatspot in literally 30 seconds.  I thought it might skate out, but no luck so far.
Post up A pic so we can see.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: johnes on August 29, 2013, 06:30:45 PM
I finally got a pair of STF's a few days ago, but i'm gonna get the 4's tomorrow for a different set up so i can see how they differ.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dillanharp on August 29, 2013, 07:27:10 PM
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g98/dillanharp/2C8EF279-F1D2-400B-B8CA-D189B5FC855B-3297-00000151A56C6783_zps323d0ee3.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: BRIX SKWIKZ on August 29, 2013, 07:39:20 PM
HAHAAHA SPITFIRE IS ALWAYS THE SAME SHIT
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: TheKraken on August 29, 2013, 08:17:39 PM
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g98/dillanharp/2C8EF279-F1D2-400B-B8CA-D189B5FC855B-3297-00000151A56C6783_zps323d0ee3.jpg)

verdict is in
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Randozzi on August 29, 2013, 08:23:54 PM
Verdict? Show me any wheel that can withstand a similar situation.
F4s stepped the game up a notch after 30 years of urethane wheels.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: TheKraken on August 29, 2013, 08:38:54 PM
Verdict? Show me any wheel that can withstand a similar situation.
F4s stepped the game up a notch after 30 years of urethane wheels.
Those are brand new wheels, I'd be pissed. You coudn't flatspot stfs if you tried.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: sweat stains on August 29, 2013, 08:48:06 PM
Verdict? Show me any wheel that can withstand a similar situation.
F4s stepped the game up a notch after 30 years of urethane wheels.
Those are brand new wheels, I'd be pissed. You coudn't flatspot stfs if you tried.
But he didn't flatspot his by trying. He hit a rock going fast which would've made a STF wheel flatspot too.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dillanharp on August 29, 2013, 08:52:20 PM
Verdict? Show me any wheel that can withstand a similar situation.
F4s stepped the game up a notch after 30 years of urethane wheels.

I'm not mad at all though, the wheels are nice, even if they do sound like a helicopter right now. Like what he said above, that would have happened to ANY wheel. Just a bad luck.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: TheKraken on August 29, 2013, 09:09:38 PM
Verdict? Show me any wheel that can withstand a similar situation.
F4s stepped the game up a notch after 30 years of urethane wheels.
Those are brand new wheels, I'd be pissed. You coudn't flatspot stfs if you tried.
But he didn't flatspot his by trying. He hit a rock going fast which would've made a STF wheel flatspot too.
Ahh hitting a rock at high speeds the cause of flatspots since 2013

Are you serious?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: pugmaster on August 29, 2013, 09:47:49 PM
pretty sure darkstar just has that because not enough people ride their wheels to prove them wrong.

hahaha
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: bbk on August 30, 2013, 12:17:23 AM
No wheel will ever be impossible to flatspot, I've flatspotted stf's the first day before... F4 is the truth
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: jack2jack on August 30, 2013, 12:17:52 AM
Verdict? Show me any wheel that can withstand a similar situation.
F4s stepped the game up a notch after 30 years of urethane wheels.
Those are brand new wheels, I'd be pissed. You coudn't flatspot stfs if you tried.
But he didn't flatspot his by trying. He hit a rock going fast which would've made a STF wheel flatspot too.
Ahh hitting a rock at high speeds the cause of flatspots since 2013

Are you serious?

Have flatspotted STF the same way...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: art hellman on August 30, 2013, 06:47:48 AM
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Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: n8a on August 30, 2013, 08:04:40 AM
I was all excited after I set them up last Friday, I hauled ass out of my apartment complex, got 50 feet and hit a pebble and ate shit, hard.  Flatspot in literally 30 seconds.  I thought it might skate out, but no luck so far.

Sorry that happened man. Please shoot an email to christian@dlxsf.com and he will make sure to get you hooked up. 
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dillanharp on August 30, 2013, 01:25:01 PM
I was all excited after I set them up last Friday, I hauled ass out of my apartment complex, got 50 feet and hit a pebble and ate shit, hard.  Flatspot in literally 30 seconds.  I thought it might skate out, but no luck so far.

Sorry that happened man. Please shoot an email to christian@dlxsf.com and he will make sure to get you hooked up. 

Thanks, he already reached out. Amazing customer service.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ALZ on September 03, 2013, 01:57:54 PM
How do these do on rough asphalt? I've got some 98a Satoris that are quite good....all streets here are just rough and shit...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on September 03, 2013, 02:53:07 PM
Liking these wheels so far, can actually hold a powerslide sideways instead of spinning out like i did on other wheels,
only complaint and its an visual one, the full shape i thought would be as close too the squareish SFW shape which i love,
but it seems too have a rounder edge, apart from that, i can't fault them.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Christian Alexander on September 04, 2013, 02:20:40 PM
Liking these wheels so far, can actually hold a powerslide sideways instead of spinning out like i did on other wheels,
only complaint and its an visual one, the full shape i thought would be as close too the squareish SFW shape which i love,
but it seems too have a rounder edge, apart from that, i can't fault them.

Stoked you're digging the wheels. We're working on more shapes/sizes for the future, the Manderson shape is definitely on the radar
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: tuque on September 04, 2013, 04:03:20 PM
Liking these wheels so far, can actually hold a powerslide sideways instead of spinning out like i did on other wheels,
only complaint and its an visual one, the full shape i thought would be as close too the squareish SFW shape which i love,
but it seems too have a rounder edge, apart from that, i can't fault them.

Stoked you're digging the wheels. We're working on more shapes/sizes for the future, the Manderson shape is definitely on the radar

Hell yeah,  101 duro please
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on September 05, 2013, 11:56:20 AM
naw 99^. if you make an sfw shaped F4 i dont think id buy any other wheel EVER. the full is pretty close tho and if they last longer ill just ride those
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on September 06, 2013, 02:54:42 AM
Liking these wheels so far, can actually hold a powerslide sideways instead of spinning out like i did on other wheels,
only complaint and its an visual one, the full shape i thought would be as close too the squareish SFW shape which i love,
but it seems too have a rounder edge, apart from that, i can't fault them.

Stoked you're digging the wheels. We're working on more shapes/sizes for the future, the Manderson shape is definitely on the radar

Awesome, you just made me a very happy man! ;D
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: smokecrack on September 06, 2013, 04:43:41 PM
i'm going to get me a set of these but i'm not exactly sure which ones i should buy. i'm interested on how they perform for powerslides, lipslides on ledges/curbs and hill-bombing. i mainly skate street. not much of a park rat.

are the 101s too slick? should i go with the 99s/classic shape?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: johnes on September 06, 2013, 05:39:21 PM
I'm definitely liking the formula fours, they do slide slightly different (in a good way) from the last wheels I've had. For the past 2 years or so I've only had mini logo wheels. Right off the bat the mini logos are fine, but the difference with the spitfire is pretty nice. I waxed up the ledge at my park and tried some long front boards and the slide was very consistent and i wouldn't kind lose my balance as much as I normally would. I've only skated them twice, but I'm looking forward to seeing how long they last. Mini logo wheels would usually last me about 2 months before they got soft and slow. I guess time will tell how well these hold up.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on September 07, 2013, 12:41:52 AM
i'm going to get me a set of these but i'm not exactly sure which ones i should buy. i'm interested on how they perform for powerslides, lipslides on ledges/curbs and hill-bombing. i mainly skate street. not much of a park rat.

are the 101s too slick? should i go with the 99s/classic shape?

Curbs, Powerslides and Hills is pretty much a day of skating for me, and the 99s held up well, they have the classic feel, but with a little more resistance i guess, 101s might be a little too slippery.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: theblandest on September 07, 2013, 01:23:34 PM
Despite the mostly positive things mentioned in this thread and elsewhere, I have yet to sell many F4s at the shop surprisingly.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on September 07, 2013, 07:03:25 PM
Despite the mostly positive things mentioned in this thread and elsewhere, I have yet to sell many F4s at the shop surprisingly.
Well, like any good shop owner/employee to move product you need to back it. Meaning try them out, give endorsements,run promotions, help advertise whatever it is and make sure to always give positive re enforcement.
Otherwise the product gets lost in the case. Without you showing people that a superior quality product(whatever it might be)is available then of course only a few will search them out.
Jus sayin.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: NowhereInLife on September 10, 2013, 07:33:31 PM
These wheels seem to do well resisting the asphalt black plague that coats your wheels if you spend anytime in the NYC streets.  Maybe it's just because they have no tread but I don't think so. This alone puts them in a class by themselves to me, like spitfire really figured something out.  I tried stf's for the first time early in the summer and after finding the v2 shape, thought they would be my new go to wheel (not too plastic at all, which is why I avoided them for years.)

I'm on the classic 99's. But have the tablet 101's coming. I have a feeling those and the v2's will be at war for preferred status.

The no black plague thing is big, and the urethane does seem to be new level...But I'm not gonna front on stf's, the quality of which I've been marveling at all summer. 

It's a good time for wheels. haha
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: rlang on September 11, 2013, 09:24:54 AM
Just put on some 54 101 Classics the other day. They're not slick at all.  Good grip but slide too.  I'd been using the new 100 Street Burners since they came out, and these feel similar, but I definitely like them more,...so far. 
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: theblandest on September 12, 2013, 11:42:27 AM
Despite the mostly positive things mentioned in this thread and elsewhere, I have yet to sell many F4s at the shop surprisingly.
Well, like any good shop owner/employee to move product you need to back it. Meaning try them out, give endorsements,run promotions, help advertise whatever it is and make sure to always give positive re enforcement.
Otherwise the product gets lost in the case. Without you showing people that a superior quality product(whatever it might be)is available then of course only a few will search them out.
Jus sayin.

It's not like I don't try to sell them. We advertise them plenty and we relay everything about their superiority. In fact, I've never said anything about them negatively. It's just a thing right now I guess. 
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: sweat stains on September 12, 2013, 12:21:50 PM
Despite the mostly positive things mentioned in this thread and elsewhere, I have yet to sell many F4s at the shop surprisingly.
Well, like any good shop owner/employee to move product you need to back it. Meaning try them out, give endorsements,run promotions, help advertise whatever it is and make sure to always give positive re enforcement.
Otherwise the product gets lost in the case. Without you showing people that a superior quality product(whatever it might be)is available then of course only a few will search them out.
Jus sayin.

It's not like I don't try to sell them. We advertise them plenty and we relay everything about their superiority. In fact, I've never said anything about them negatively. It's just a thing right now I guess. 
I'd guess that it's because kids don't like the color or the slightly higher price, because they don't think in the long term.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Turtle Boy on September 12, 2013, 12:52:58 PM
I think kids do not give a fuck on any improvement in skateboarding wheel technologies. Since they don't have necessarily a lot of money they will get the cheapest models made by spitfire or bones, maybe pigs or ricta if they are into their marketing.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: theblandest on September 12, 2013, 04:22:50 PM
I think kids do not give a fuck on any improvement in skateboarding wheel technologies. Since they don't have necessarily a lot of money they will get the cheapest models made by spitfire or bones, maybe pigs or ricta if they are into their marketing.


that's usually what I tell them. If they get a cheaper wheel, there's a chance that they'll flat spot in a week and then they're going to wish they spent that extra 7$ on the F4s
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Turtle Boy on September 13, 2013, 01:55:48 AM
I think kids do not give a fuck on any improvement in skateboarding wheel technologies. Since they don't have necessarily a lot of money they will get the cheapest models made by spitfire or bones, maybe pigs or ricta if they are into their marketing.


that's usually what I tell them. If they get a cheaper wheel, there's a chance that they'll flat spot in a week and then they're going to wish they spent that extra 7$ on the F4s
Do you guys really flatspot wheels in one week? And even if you flatspot, doesn't it disappear after a couple of sessions?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: layzieyez on September 13, 2013, 09:27:14 AM
I have flatspotted wheels first day.  If I flatspot wheels, I just let them go depending on how much I liked them before it happened.  If I didn't like them much, I'll pass it on to the first kid with crusty wheels and the patience to try and fix the flat.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: TFUCKINA on September 15, 2013, 12:21:45 AM
I can't say I've ever actually flat spotted wheels, definitely never had the helicopter sound like some people get.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Will Easley on September 15, 2013, 12:52:41 AM
Have been riding a set of the 52mm, 101a Tablet shaped ones for about a week now and they're pretty cool although I kinda wish I had paid more attention to the hardness when I bought them. the tablet shape is pretty much perfectly flat on the sides so you lock into grinds very well, which is nice, but since im out here in AZ where the ground isnt super shitty like in Illinois i feel like ive been sliding around a lot more than id like. especially at these smooth ass parks where ill do a trick down a set, land 99% perfect then slide out horizontally before riding away. shit also gets really scary if I come out of a fast, long grind kinda sketchy cuz i definitely slip out like fucking crazy at those speeds. overall they're pretty good "premium" wheels i guess.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: iwshilvdnfinland on September 15, 2013, 09:17:46 PM
2 months in on mine.


best wheels ever.  you can seriously control your powerslides like no other.  no flatspots, still feel solid.  i'm sold.


good job spitfire.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: art hellman on September 16, 2013, 10:24:41 AM
been skating some Bones V2 shape squarish shaped wheels over the years, so decided to try out the F4 Tablets...

havent set them up yet, but here's a visual comparison of a Bones STF 54mm V2 an old pair of squarish wheels to a Spit F4 101a 53mm Tablet

(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag108/arthellman1/spit1_zps8f3053ad.jpg)

(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag108/arthellman1/spit2_zps6f71b8e7.jpeg)

Any wheel advice herein was not intended or written by the author to be used, and it cannot be used by any recipient, for the purpose of avoiding any wheel size, shape, and/or color penalties that may be imposed on any person.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: wallieD on September 16, 2013, 10:42:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqEjW3jFGFE
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: JBones on September 16, 2013, 02:19:45 PM
been skating the Bones V2 shape over the years, so decided to try out the F4 Tablets...

havent set them up yet, but here's a visual comparison of a Bones STF 54mm V2 to a Spit F4 101a 53mm Tablet

(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag108/arthellman1/spit1_zps8f3053ad.jpg)

(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag108/arthellman1/spit2_zps6f71b8e7.jpeg)

Sorry bro, that's not a Bones V2 wheel. That's the Rat Bones II shape, the same as all the SPF bowl wheels. They come in 54x31, 56x32, 58x33 and 60x43...you have the 54 SPF's in that shape. They do also make this shape in STF, but only on the Skatopia wheel.
The Bones V2 is thinner width wise, and is completely flat on both sides, no cut in for weight like on your wheels, and less round on the lip. They look just like those Spitfire tablets. Sorry dude, whoever told you they that you had V2's was confused.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: art hellman on September 16, 2013, 02:30:11 PM
^^ oh no bro! this is just like the time I thought my trucks weighed 42.453 grams and not 43.476 grams. 
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/6c2359a914e19b4b3bf60adbd17c7341/tumblr_mndh2iGC5C1sp9fcho1_500.gif)

Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: JBones on September 16, 2013, 02:54:54 PM
^^ oh no bro! this is just like the time I thought my trucks weighed 42.453 grams and not 43.476 grams. 
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/6c2359a914e19b4b3bf60adbd17c7341/tumblr_mndh2iGC5C1sp9fcho1_500.gif)



Hey, was just letting you know so you didn't judge the difference between 2 completely different shaped wheels.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Probably A Robot on September 16, 2013, 02:59:26 PM
That's the Rat Bones II shape, the same as all the SPF bowl wheels. They do also make this shape in STF, but only on the Skatopia wheel.
Or these

(http://cdn.bones.com/assets/boneswheels/productimage/size/450x450/method/padding/WSCATPT5603W4.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: art hellman on September 16, 2013, 03:07:13 PM
^^ oh no bro! this is just like the time I thought my trucks weighed 42.453 grams and not 43.476 grams.? 
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/6c2359a914e19b4b3bf60adbd17c7341/tumblr_mndh2iGC5C1sp9fcho1_500.gif)



Hey, was just letting you know so you didn't judge the difference between 2 completely different shaped wheels.


yeah, i know.
(http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000819831/polls_apples_oranges_3217_631564_poll_xlarge.jpeg)

it's just the use of the term "bro" makes me reflect on bad past experiences
Point Break - Fight Scene (Ca?adores de Emo??o) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJEp8vk3_9c#)

was just going to bring up the B.A.K.U. wheels.  I had/have a couple sets of those...

Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: sweat stains on September 16, 2013, 04:19:04 PM
What's the longest anyone on here has skated a set of these? I'm going on two and a half months and they still skate like they're brand new (in a good way)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ice nine on September 16, 2013, 05:04:22 PM
had mine for just under 18 months, still in mint condition
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on September 16, 2013, 06:21:06 PM
I rode a set fpr 2 months and passed them to a friend who is still skating them.
He said they never flatted and refuses to give them up.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on September 19, 2013, 02:13:32 PM
just set up the 55 fulls and did a few powerslides and the feel is awesome! mad control, cant wait for them to wear down a bit tho cus 55 is kinda big. have any of ur guys' shrunk down or do they really stay the same throughout...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: art hellman on September 19, 2013, 02:45:19 PM
set up the 53mm 101a tablets and skated the local park a bit.  at first blush, all that has been said is true...slide when you want, grip when you want.  don't feel a ton different than the 101a PFCs I've had in the past, other than the sliding is a little more "on demand."  i do like the "feel" of them more than Bones... but lets see how they do with time (which based on everyones' comments so far, will be good). 
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on September 23, 2013, 06:39:00 PM
these wheels are fucking great, same spitfire feel with an even more controlled slide. someone should let me know some details on the shrinkage tho
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: sweat stains on September 23, 2013, 06:44:43 PM
these wheels are fucking great, same spitfire feel with an even more controlled slide. someone should let me know some details on the shrinkage tho
Just checked mine out right now, they started off as 53mm, and two and a half months later they're just barely smaller than a set of new 52s I had laying around.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Noble Experiment on September 23, 2013, 07:04:00 PM
these wheels are fucking great, same spitfire feel with an even more controlled slide. someone should let me know some details on the shrinkage tho
Just checked mine out right now, they started off as 53mm, and two and a half months later they're just barely smaller than a set of new 52s I had laying around.

I got mine as 53's. About a month into skating they had shrunken down to the size of 51's (I dont have a car so I skate everywhere, and the ground here can be pretty rough sometimes, so them shrinking down fast was kind of expected), but then after that they've pretty much stayed in that 51 size range ever since. It's been almost three months of having them now, I still skate everywhere on the rough grounds, but they're still the same size, around 51mm. Pretty weird, it's almost like after they reached a certain point of shrinking they just stopped shrinking, I can dig it though.
So far they're still great wheels. Only complaint is that on two of the wheels there are teeny chunks missing on the sides, but other than that I got no real complaints, they're still treating me well.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: iwshilvdnfinland on September 23, 2013, 08:55:53 PM
What's the longest anyone on here has skated a set of these? I'm going on two and a half months and they still skate like they're brand new (in a good way)

had mine since the first week of july.  same here.  it's amazing.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tuna on September 24, 2013, 12:14:25 AM
I thought i had flatspotted mine today, but upon closer inspection it was just some asshole kid's gum he had spit on the ground at the skatepark.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on September 24, 2013, 11:57:38 AM
tight so 55 was a good choice. hopefully they just hit 53 and stay there so ill never have to buy wheels haha
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on September 24, 2013, 10:23:43 PM
had high expectations due to all the hype here. they are even better than that.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: one80 on September 24, 2013, 11:30:20 PM
just bought a pair of the 52s. skated nothin' but bones STFs for the past 6 years, stoked to try em out tomorrow!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on September 25, 2013, 06:59:50 AM
had high expectations due to all the hype here. they are even better than that.

forreal, im usually a skeptic for "tech" shit, but the f4 is definitely my wheel of choice from now on
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: heritage on September 28, 2013, 08:43:44 PM
Just bought a set of 53/99 in classic shape, but I just can't quit my Autobahn ABX.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: rlang on September 29, 2013, 06:44:00 AM
skated my 54mm 101 classics in a Masonite bowl yesterday and was a little nervous...they actually gripped pretty well.  Good work spitfire!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: bbk on September 29, 2013, 12:47:26 PM
I flatspotted mine bombing a hill just doing a couple of quick slides, bummer, the early team edition ones i got last summer lasted me forever! oh, I mean four-ever
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: sweat stains on October 01, 2013, 08:25:49 PM
Just took mine off after skating them for 3 months, my only complaint is how shitty they look after this long. Overall though they were the best wheel I've ever skated. These weren't the final for sale version so maybe the appearance is better in the final version.
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b615/sweatstainsslap/Snapbucket/39BD0122_zpsfa7a61bd.jpg?t=1380683991)
By the way these wheels started at 53 and the new wheels I put on are 52 so that gives you a little size comparison.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on October 01, 2013, 09:06:53 PM
Just to clarify, you're complaining about how shitty your wheels look after skating them for 3 months?
And how should wheels look after being skated for that long?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fulfillthedream on October 02, 2013, 08:18:32 AM
been skating the Bones V2 shape over the years, so decided to try out the F4 Tablets...

havent set them up yet, but here's a visual comparison of a Bones STF 54mm V2 to a Spit F4 101a 53mm Tablet

(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag108/arthellman1/spit1_zps8f3053ad.jpg)

(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag108/arthellman1/spit2_zps6f71b8e7.jpeg)

Sorry bro, that's not a Bones V2 wheel. That's the Rat Bones II shape, the same as all the SPF bowl wheels. They come in 54x31, 56x32, 58x33 and 60x43...you have the 54 SPF's in that shape. They do also make this shape in STF, but only on the Skatopia wheel.
The Bones V2 is thinner width wise, and is completely flat on both sides, no cut in for weight like on your wheels, and less round on the lip. They look just like those Spitfire tablets. Sorry dude, whoever told you they that you had V2's was confused.

do you work for powell?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Firebert on October 02, 2013, 09:03:14 AM
you don't need to work for powell to see that's not a v2 shape. all the sizing info is on their website.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: sweat stains on October 02, 2013, 09:55:26 AM
Just to clarify, you're complaining about how shitty your wheels look after skating them for 3 months?
And how should wheels look after being skated for that long?
I'm just saying that that's the only thing wrong with the wheel. Didn't expect it to look good by this time, I'm just pointing it out.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Slappy_Happy on October 02, 2013, 03:35:52 PM
I love mine so much.  I have the 53mm 99d full shape.  They slide really easily but they aren't slippery.  I bust hella power slides cause my area is full of hills.  No flatspots, haven't gotten smaller yet.  They are much lighter and slimmer than my SFW.  Im sticking with these for sure.  I already loved spitfire.  These wheels just seal the deal though
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Young Satchel on October 02, 2013, 04:54:03 PM
Still tryna hold out for that next batch of PFCs...it's getting hard though.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: pinche gringo on October 02, 2013, 06:25:15 PM
I bought some 53mm 99duro classic shape earlier. I'm excited to check them out. I'll update later in the thread.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: tangar on October 02, 2013, 10:29:24 PM
Still tryna hold out for that next batch of PFCs...it's getting hard though.
just give it up homie, F4s are better. if PFC ever puts some new shit out and your strapped for cash then you can pick some up. but i can honestly say im pretty sure you wont be disappointed in F4s.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: pinche gringo on October 02, 2013, 11:00:41 PM
I skated a curb spot with rough asphalt ground for an hour or so earlier. At first glance, they slide really well and it's a really controllable slide - I went out of my way to do more powerslides than normal. I swear by 'classics' and have rarely had problems with flat spots. I'll have to try the F4's on a smooth concrete surface tomorrow to see if they 'grip' differently. 
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: The Drew on October 03, 2013, 05:48:12 AM
i flat spotted mine last weekend... i thought the flat spot mended itself but today i noticed its still there... i still think they are better than bones though
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: pinche gringo on October 09, 2013, 05:20:48 PM
It was dry today so a friend and I went to an outdoor park. I remember it being really slick. I thought the wheels gripped really well and slid when necessary. I like them so far.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: sweat stains on October 09, 2013, 06:23:06 PM
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b615/sweatstainsslap/Snapbucket/88FB67E3_zps7bb31e64.jpg?t=1381367926)
Stoked on these. Set up some Streetburners before I put these on, skated them for a day and they felt so bad in comparison that I had to set these up. I prefer the 101 F4s that I had before this though.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: JBones on October 11, 2013, 12:44:43 AM
The 99's are great on indoor parks and the 101's are really nice on street.

The F4 99's are one of the best indoor ramp and bowl type grippy wheels I've ridden, while not being too grippy, but not slick at all.
I've ridden em all on the indoor ramps and bowls and I really think the F4 99's hit the nail on the head for a great indoor wheel.

The 101's were too slick for a dusty bowl. They need to broken in more on street first then I'll try again.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Young Satchel on October 12, 2013, 06:00:09 AM
Still tryna hold out for that next batch of PFCs...it's getting hard though.
just give it up homie, F4s are better. if PFC ever puts some new shit out and your strapped for cash then you can pick some up. but i can honestly say im pretty sure you wont be disappointed in F4s.

Responded to this with a post on my phone but it wouldnt let me submit it.  Suffice to say I imagine that the F4s probably are a bit better, but I enjoy supporting smaller companies whose ideals and direction appeal to me and are inline with my own.  I'm sure I'll get some F4s down the line (skating some old-ass Classics now) but my next set gonna be PFCs.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hash Slinging Slasher on October 12, 2013, 06:57:05 AM
I rode a friend's board with bones on it yesterday just for a few minutes and all I have to say is that it felt awful
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Retox on October 12, 2013, 12:14:55 PM
53 99a full formula fours are seriously the best wheel out there and worth every penny.  They ride great on shitty east coast terrain.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Niko Katavainen on October 12, 2013, 01:10:21 PM
I love mine so much.  I have the 53mm 99d full shape.  They slide really easily but they aren't slippery.  I bust hella power slides cause my area is full of hills.  No flatspots, haven't gotten smaller yet.  They are much lighter and slimmer than my SFW .  Im sticking with these for sure.  I already loved spitfire.  These wheels just seal the deal though

If you want a slim wheel why would you buy SFWs in the first place?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: johnes on October 17, 2013, 11:22:20 AM
My knee has been hurt for almost a month now, so I'm estimating i've skating my 4's for around 15 hours. Today I noticed that they are starting to feel a little soft and slow (with super reds). I pulled out my other setup which has STF's (with mini logo bearings) that I only skated for about 2 or 3 hours, they felt harder and faster. So for whatever it's worth, after about 6-7 sessions with Formula fours they are starting to feel worn down. I normally skate the same wheels for a couple months.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: SK8houses on October 17, 2013, 11:33:07 AM
were the supereds brand new? iv been skating my 99d f4s for over a month on all skate able surfaces, they feel the same as the fist day i got them......hope that knee heals up well!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: johnes on October 17, 2013, 12:36:16 PM
Thanks, yeah the super reds were new ((minilogos are actually a few months older), mine are the 101d. If i just spin the wheels with the board in my hand they spin fast and long, so i def think it's the wheels and not the bearings.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: MostlyLurkin' on October 19, 2013, 03:00:01 PM
Thanks, yeah the super reds were new ((minilogos are actually a few months older), mine are the 101d. If i just spin the wheels with the board in my hand they spin fast and long, so i def think it's the wheels and not the bearings.

Yeah, it's the wheels. For sure.  ::)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Morty Seinfeld on October 19, 2013, 03:21:20 PM
Thanks, yeah the super reds were new ((minilogos are actually a few months older), mine are the 101d. If i just spin the wheels with the board in my hand they spin fast and long, so i def think it's the wheels and not the bearings.

Yeah, it's the wheels. For sure.  ::)

hahahaha damn b
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on October 20, 2013, 12:18:02 PM
Thanks, yeah the super reds were new ((minilogos are actually a few months older), mine are the 101d. If i just spin the wheels with the board in my hand they spin fast and long, so i def think it's the wheels and not the bearings.

Yeah, it's the wheels. For sure.  ::)

hahahaha damn b

Somebody needs to lay off the hostess cupcakes
(sorry, I had to).
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: thepman on October 20, 2013, 01:06:00 PM
Ordered the 101 53mm for my birthday, can't wait to try them out. Had a pair of STFs for over a year and a half, and while they're still in decent condition I have to try these.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Carrolls Chesthairs on October 20, 2013, 05:56:32 PM
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b615/sweatstainsslap/Snapbucket/88FB67E3_zps7bb31e64.jpg?t=1381367926)
Stoked on these. Set up some Streetburners before I put these on, skated them for a day and they felt so bad in comparison that I had to set these up. I prefer the 101 F4s that I had before this though.
how are your rollerblades holding up?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hamish on October 20, 2013, 06:21:11 PM
Finally got around to grabbing a set, so stoked on them.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fulfillthedream on October 20, 2013, 07:04:07 PM
I am currently riding the 53mm classic shaped F4s for about 3 weeks now. Pretty solid wheel so far. All the good points have been covered already on how great the feel and slide. so far i have no complaints. i was riding the spitfire f1's for the past year which were a 101a and since the F4's are a 99 i can feel a difference. I wanna try the 101's next..

any one here made the switch from 101 F1's to the 101 formula fours? how does it feel?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Kinch on October 21, 2013, 10:00:16 AM
I really want a set of 53-54mm 101 tablets but for some reason they just aren't available in the UK at all. I'm rolling on coned, flatspotted, worn-ass f1s at the moment and my resolve to not just buy some bones as I can actually get them is weakening more and more every time I skate. :(
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: soccer mom on October 22, 2013, 08:31:45 PM
I've said it before, but these are the best wheels out if you think differently you probably just got an unlucky random bad set (if they exist) or you just want to have something negative to say. I can't recommend them enough. 2 thumbs up
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Firebert on October 23, 2013, 07:05:03 AM
get 'em while you can dlx is out 'til next week
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dillanharp on October 23, 2013, 02:51:56 PM
Still tryna hold out for that next batch of PFCs...it's getting hard though.
just give it up homie, F4s are better. if PFC ever puts some new shit out and your strapped for cash then you can pick some up. but i can honestly say im pretty sure you wont be disappointed in F4s.

Responded to this with a post on my phone but it wouldnt let me submit it.  Suffice to say I imagine that the F4s probably are a bit better, but I enjoy supporting smaller companies whose ideals and direction appeal to me and are inline with my own.  I'm sure I'll get some F4s down the line (skating some old-ass Classics now) but my next set gonna be PFCs.

You're already skating spitfires... People acting like DLX is Nike now?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: thepman on October 23, 2013, 03:34:18 PM
I really want a set of 53-54mm 101 tablets but for some reason they just aren't available in the UK at all. I'm rolling on coned, flatspotted, worn-ass f1s at the moment and my resolve to not just buy some bones as I can actually get them is weakening more and more every time I skate. :(

I just ordered 53mm 101 from rollersnakes the other day...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on October 27, 2013, 08:41:17 PM
ight so i have the 99 full shape, and when i first got em they slid really well but after about a month or so they feel a lot softer and gripper and really dont slide that well in the streets at this point. do you think i should try the 101 classics next? do they feel more or less like streetburners? i want to be able to do long slides, but i hate that icy uncontrolled feeling..
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Kinch on October 29, 2013, 11:48:35 AM
I really want a set of 53-54mm 101 tablets but for some reason they just aren't available in the UK at all. I'm rolling on coned, flatspotted, worn-ass f1s at the moment and my resolve to not just buy some bones as I can actually get them is weakening more and more every time I skate. :(

I just ordered 53mm 101 from rollersnakes the other day...

Not tablet shape. I know I'm being picky but I'd much rather skate those as I loved the equivalent STF shape but much prefer the feel of Spitfire urethane. Shiner don't seem to have the tablets yet and they're pretty much the only way the UK gets DLX shit as far as I know. Also trying not to fuck with rollersnakes/r1 or any of that shit unless absolutely necessary.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on October 30, 2013, 12:45:48 PM
lol why are they pearl colored? someone at dlx is missing a chromosome
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Kinch on November 01, 2013, 02:05:01 AM
I really want a set of 53-54mm 101 tablets but for some reason they just aren't available in the UK at all. I'm rolling on coned, flatspotted, worn-ass f1s at the moment and my resolve to not just buy some bones as I can actually get them is weakening more and more every time I skate. :(

I just ordered 53mm 101 from rollersnakes the other day...

Not tablet shape. I know I'm being picky but I'd much rather skate those as I loved the equivalent STF shape but much prefer the feel of Spitfire urethane. Shiner don't seem to have the tablets yet and they're pretty much the only way the UK gets DLX shit as far as I know. Also trying not to fuck with rollersnakes/r1 or any of that shit unless absolutely necessary.


Following my earlier post Christian from DLX got in touch and is hooking it up. Huge thanks to Christian and DLX for this. It's been said a million times on SLAP already but you guys are the best at taking care of your customers and it really is appreciated.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Firebert on November 01, 2013, 08:48:17 AM
I really want a set of 53-54mm 101 tablets but for some reason they just aren't available in the UK at all. I'm rolling on coned, flatspotted, worn-ass f1s at the moment and my resolve to not just buy some bones as I can actually get them is weakening more and more every time I skate. :(

I just ordered 53mm 101 from rollersnakes the other day...
Not tablet shape. I know I'm being picky but I'd much rather skate those as I loved the equivalent STF shape but much prefer the feel of Spitfire urethane. Shiner don't seem to have the tablets yet and they're pretty much the only way the UK gets DLX shit as far as I know. Also trying not to fuck with rollersnakes/r1 or any of that shit unless absolutely necessary.


Following my earlier post Christian from DLX got in touch and is hooking it up. Huge thanks to Christian and DLX for this. It's been said a million times on SLAP already but you guys are the best at taking care of your customers and it really is appreciated.

He's good people. Hooked me up after I managed to flatspot the tablets, but he sent classics
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: White Owl on November 02, 2013, 11:44:29 PM
I really want a set of 53-54mm 101 tablets but for some reason they just aren't available in the UK at all. I'm rolling on coned, flatspotted, worn-ass f1s at the moment and my resolve to not just buy some bones as I can actually get them is weakening more and more every time I skate. :(

I just ordered 53mm 101 from rollersnakes the other day...
Not tablet shape. I know I'm being picky but I'd much rather skate those as I loved the equivalent STF shape but much prefer the feel of Spitfire urethane. Shiner don't seem to have the tablets yet and they're pretty much the only way the UK gets DLX shit as far as I know. Also trying not to fuck with rollersnakes/r1 or any of that shit unless absolutely necessary.


Following my earlier post Christian from DLX got in touch and is hooking it up. Huge thanks to Christian and DLX for this. It's been said a million times on SLAP already but you guys are the best at taking care of your customers and it really is appreciated.

He's good people. Hooked me up after I managed to flatspot the tablets, but he sent classics

they actually will send you wheels if you flat spot them? thats sick. my f4s have a had a couple minor ones but one hill and they are gone
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Bubblegum Tate on November 03, 2013, 12:39:28 AM
Just got these!!! Legit. Any colored F-4's coming out in the future?

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5466/9490556605_73456d6f71.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Life Fast Johnny on November 03, 2013, 05:24:42 AM
Just got these!!! Legit. Any colored F-4's coming out in the future?

Some of their pros are rolling on green ones in some IG photos out there.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: JBones on November 03, 2013, 02:41:53 PM
Just got these!!! Legit. Any colored F-4's coming out in the future?

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5466/9490556605_73456d6f71.jpg)

Dye them w/ Rit dye, get creative.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: TFUCKINA on November 03, 2013, 06:13:43 PM
I rode a friend's board with bones on it yesterday just for a few minutes and all I have to say is that it felt awful

Yea, I cannot get down with those wheels, killer bushings, but there wheels are not my thing, I couldn't imagine skating bones wheels at a smooth concrete park.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Anotherwon on November 05, 2013, 02:34:04 PM
Just got these!!! Legit. Any colored F-4's coming out in the future?

Some of their pros are rolling on green ones in some IG photos out there.
Green ones have been available for the testing public also for a couple of years... To me, they're officially the best feeling F4s and feel different from the one's I purchased from the shop.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on November 09, 2013, 11:24:19 PM
How long a lifespan are you guys getting out of these, ive had them on for a couple months
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Morty Seinfeld on November 10, 2013, 07:37:02 PM
How long a lifespan are you guys getting out of these, ive had them on for a couple months

I've had mine for three months. started as 99A 53's, they haven't gotten much smaller. I skate parks most days, but they're holding up very well. Honestly I like them better than PFC's.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Dr Steve Brule on November 10, 2013, 07:38:43 PM
Anybody tried dying these yet?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on November 10, 2013, 08:55:37 PM
so i got some 101 oj's coming off of some f4 fulls and i miss the spits already, its just full shape turned out being a bit too grippy in the streets once they got soft. the OJ's are better but I could still use a little more slide. Do you think I should opt for the 101 f4's next or was the grippiness of the 99's just due to the wider riding surface? anyone skate both duros and wanna lemme know wasup?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: escapistfool on November 10, 2013, 09:36:31 PM
so i got some 101 oj's coming off of some f4 fulls and i miss the spits already, its just full shape turned out being a bit too grippy in the streets once they got soft. the OJ's are better but I could still use a little more slide. Do you think I should opt for the 101 f4's next or was the grippiness of the 99's just due to the wider riding surface? anyone skate both duros and wanna lemme know wasup?

Here's the thing with the F4's. (in my own personal experience)

I've been riding F4's for about a year and a few months in, it started with the green ones (and some blueish ones) that Damon sent me. Those were THE BEST F4's I've ridden. It seemed too perfect. I dont want to rely on the Slap cliche but I do skate hills as much as I can.

Now, the ones they released for the public are the ones everyone is riding. Right now I have the blue ones (99 duro) and those are great. I've had the 101 duro and those were also prime. The difference that I felt with the 101's is that they felt close to F1's. I still heard that signature Spitfire screech the wheels make when you powerslide and they did flatspot (albeit VERY TINY which went away after skating two hours straight). The 99 duros that I have right now are the grippiest (a bit "gummy" if that makes sense) wheels I've had. I powerslide in these and they have not flatspotted at all. But I do get a bit annoyed sometimes of the gumminess of the wheel especially when I'm skating ledges; they seem to stick to the ledge more than the 101 Duro F4's. All in all, both wheels are the best wheels in the market right now (i'm not knocking down Bones, they make great wheels as well but that plastic feel is the reason why I gave up on them) and Spitfire deserves the amount of praise they've been getting lately because of the F4's.
Just consider the type of skating you do, whether parks, street, whatever, and pick whichever wheel would go best with you. I skate street more often than parks so the next wheels I'm going to skate (and for a long while) would be the 101A Duros. Just try 'em out.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: art hellman on November 11, 2013, 12:29:21 PM
if anyone wants to trade some new 99a (53-55mm) for some brand new 101a 53mm Tablets...let me know

http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=74254.msg2029453#msg2029453 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=74254.msg2029453#msg2029453)

looking to go a little grippier for the winter on indoor ramps
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on November 11, 2013, 08:53:03 PM
so i got some 101 oj's coming off of some f4 fulls and i miss the spits already, its just full shape turned out being a bit too grippy in the streets once they got soft. the OJ's are better but I could still use a little more slide. Do you think I should opt for the 101 f4's next or was the grippiness of the 99's just due to the wider riding surface? anyone skate both duros and wanna lemme know wasup?

Here's the thing with the F4's. (in my own personal experience)

I've been riding F4's for about a year and a few months in, it started with the green ones (and some blueish ones) that Damon sent me. Those were THE BEST F4's I've ridden. It seemed too perfect. I dont want to rely on the Slap cliche but I do skate hills as much as I can.

Now, the ones they released for the public are the ones everyone is riding. Right now I have the blue ones (99 duro) and those are great. I've had the 101 duro and those were also prime. The difference that I felt with the 101's is that they felt close to F1's. I still heard that signature Spitfire screech the wheels make when you powerslide and they did flatspot (albeit VERY TINY which went away after skating two hours straight). The 99 duros that I have right now are the grippiest (a bit "gummy" if that makes sense) wheels I've had. I powerslide in these and they have not flatspotted at all. But I do get a bit annoyed sometimes of the gumminess of the wheel especially when I'm skating ledges; they seem to stick to the ledge more than the 101 Duro F4's. All in all, both wheels are the best wheels in the market right now (i'm not knocking down Bones, they make great wheels as well but that plastic feel is the reason why I gave up on them) and Spitfire deserves the amount of praise they've been getting lately because of the F4's.
Just consider the type of skating you do, whether parks, street, whatever, and pick whichever wheel would go best with you. I skate street more often than parks so the next wheels I'm going to skate (and for a long while) would be the 101A Duros. Just try 'em out.

wow son good looks! made the choice really easy. once these oj's are dead im definitely gonna cop some 101's since i rlly liked streetburners too
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: escapistfool on November 11, 2013, 09:35:56 PM
so i got some 101 oj's coming off of some f4 fulls and i miss the spits already, its just full shape turned out being a bit too grippy in the streets once they got soft. the OJ's are better but I could still use a little more slide. Do you think I should opt for the 101 f4's next or was the grippiness of the 99's just due to the wider riding surface? anyone skate both duros and wanna lemme know wasup?

Here's the thing with the F4's. (in my own personal experience)

I've been riding F4's for about a year and a few months in, it started with the green ones (and some blueish ones) that Damon sent me. Those were THE BEST F4's I've ridden. It seemed too perfect. I dont want to rely on the Slap cliche but I do skate hills as much as I can.

Now, the ones they released for the public are the ones everyone is riding. Right now I have the blue ones (99 duro) and those are great. I've had the 101 duro and those were also prime. The difference that I felt with the 101's is that they felt close to F1's. I still heard that signature Spitfire screech the wheels make when you powerslide and they did flatspot (albeit VERY TINY which went away after skating two hours straight). The 99 duros that I have right now are the grippiest (a bit "gummy" if that makes sense) wheels I've had. I powerslide in these and they have not flatspotted at all. But I do get a bit annoyed sometimes of the gumminess of the wheel especially when I'm skating ledges; they seem to stick to the ledge more than the 101 Duro F4's. All in all, both wheels are the best wheels in the market right now (i'm not knocking down Bones, they make great wheels as well but that plastic feel is the reason why I gave up on them) and Spitfire deserves the amount of praise they've been getting lately because of the F4's.
Just consider the type of skating you do, whether parks, street, whatever, and pick whichever wheel would go best with you. I skate street more often than parks so the next wheels I'm going to skate (and for a long while) would be the 101A Duros. Just try 'em out.

wow son good looks! made the choice really easy. once these oj's are dead im definitely gonna cop some 101's since i rlly liked streetburners too

no problem dad, anything for you
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: tom on November 12, 2013, 08:18:31 AM
Does anyone know if they make the 99 in a size bigger than 58?
It's the indoor park time of year so it's rightfully vert season. I know a couple of millimeters don't make that much of a difference, but the taller the wheel size the wider the riding surface with their full shape wheels. I also don't want Bones because I've always been a spitfire kind of person
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on November 12, 2013, 11:40:23 AM
so i got some 101 oj's coming off of some f4 fulls and i miss the spits already, its just full shape turned out being a bit too grippy in the streets once they got soft. the OJ's are better but I could still use a little more slide. Do you think I should opt for the 101 f4's next or was the grippiness of the 99's just due to the wider riding surface? anyone skate both duros and wanna lemme know wasup?

Here's the thing with the F4's. (in my own personal experience)

I've been riding F4's for about a year and a few months in, it started with the green ones (and some blueish ones) that Damon sent me. Those were THE BEST F4's I've ridden. It seemed too perfect. I dont want to rely on the Slap cliche but I do skate hills as much as I can.

Now, the ones they released for the public are the ones everyone is riding. Right now I have the blue ones (99 duro) and those are great. I've had the 101 duro and those were also prime. The difference that I felt with the 101's is that they felt close to F1's. I still heard that signature Spitfire screech the wheels make when you powerslide and they did flatspot (albeit VERY TINY which went away after skating two hours straight). The 99 duros that I have right now are the grippiest (a bit "gummy" if that makes sense) wheels I've had. I powerslide in these and they have not flatspotted at all. But I do get a bit annoyed sometimes of the gumminess of the wheel especially when I'm skating ledges; they seem to stick to the ledge more than the 101 Duro F4's. All in all, both wheels are the best wheels in the market right now (i'm not knocking down Bones, they make great wheels as well but that plastic feel is the reason why I gave up on them) and Spitfire deserves the amount of praise they've been getting lately because of the F4's.
Just consider the type of skating you do, whether parks, street, whatever, and pick whichever wheel would go best with you. I skate street more often than parks so the next wheels I'm going to skate (and for a long while) would be the 101A Duros. Just try 'em out.

wow son good looks! made the choice really easy. once these oj's are dead im definitely gonna cop some 101's since i rlly liked streetburners too

no problem dad, anything for you

lol, not tryna be that dude, but did you find the 101's were at least somewhat grippy? im not tryna be spinnin out doughnuts on transitions and shit
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: escapistfool on November 12, 2013, 12:40:59 PM
so i got some 101 oj's coming off of some f4 fulls and i miss the spits already, its just full shape turned out being a bit too grippy in the streets once they got soft. the OJ's are better but I could still use a little more slide. Do you think I should opt for the 101 f4's next or was the grippiness of the 99's just due to the wider riding surface? anyone skate both duros and wanna lemme know wasup?

Here's the thing with the F4's. (in my own personal experience)

I've been riding F4's for about a year and a few months in, it started with the green ones (and some blueish ones) that Damon sent me. Those were THE BEST F4's I've ridden. It seemed too perfect. I dont want to rely on the Slap cliche but I do skate hills as much as I can.

Now, the ones they released for the public are the ones everyone is riding. Right now I have the blue ones (99 duro) and those are great. I've had the 101 duro and those were also prime. The difference that I felt with the 101's is that they felt close to F1's. I still heard that signature Spitfire screech the wheels make when you powerslide and they did flatspot (albeit VERY TINY which went away after skating two hours straight). The 99 duros that I have right now are the grippiest (a bit "gummy" if that makes sense) wheels I've had. I powerslide in these and they have not flatspotted at all. But I do get a bit annoyed sometimes of the gumminess of the wheel especially when I'm skating ledges; they seem to stick to the ledge more than the 101 Duro F4's. All in all, both wheels are the best wheels in the market right now (i'm not knocking down Bones, they make great wheels as well but that plastic feel is the reason why I gave up on them) and Spitfire deserves the amount of praise they've been getting lately because of the F4's.
Just consider the type of skating you do, whether parks, street, whatever, and pick whichever wheel would go best with you. I skate street more often than parks so the next wheels I'm going to skate (and for a long while) would be the 101A Duros. Just try 'em out.

wow son good looks! made the choice really easy. once these oj's are dead im definitely gonna cop some 101's since i rlly liked streetburners too

no problem dad, anything for you

lol, not tryna be that dude, but did you find the 101's were at least somewhat grippy? im not tryna be spinnin out doughnuts on transitions and shit

The 99's are grippier if that gives you an idea
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dask8d00d on November 12, 2013, 02:32:30 PM
so i got some 101 oj's coming off of some f4 fulls and i miss the spits already, its just full shape turned out being a bit too grippy in the streets once they got soft. the OJ's are better but I could still use a little more slide. Do you think I should opt for the 101 f4's next or was the grippiness of the 99's just due to the wider riding surface? anyone skate both duros and wanna lemme know wasup?

Here's the thing with the F4's. (in my own personal experience)

I've been riding F4's for about a year and a few months in, it started with the green ones (and some blueish ones) that Damon sent me. Those were THE BEST F4's I've ridden. It seemed too perfect. I dont want to rely on the Slap cliche but I do skate hills as much as I can.

Now, the ones they released for the public are the ones everyone is riding. Right now I have the blue ones (99 duro) and those are great. I've had the 101 duro and those were also prime. The difference that I felt with the 101's is that they felt close to F1's. I still heard that signature Spitfire screech the wheels make when you powerslide and they did flatspot (albeit VERY TINY which went away after skating two hours straight). The 99 duros that I have right now are the grippiest (a bit "gummy" if that makes sense) wheels I've had. I powerslide in these and they have not flatspotted at all. But I do get a bit annoyed sometimes of the gumminess of the wheel especially when I'm skating ledges; they seem to stick to the ledge more than the 101 Duro F4's. All in all, both wheels are the best wheels in the market right now (i'm not knocking down Bones, they make great wheels as well but that plastic feel is the reason why I gave up on them) and Spitfire deserves the amount of praise they've been getting lately because of the F4's.
Just consider the type of skating you do, whether parks, street, whatever, and pick whichever wheel would go best with you. I skate street more often than parks so the next wheels I'm going to skate (and for a long while) would be the 101A Duros. Just try 'em out.

wow son good looks! made the choice really easy. once these oj's are dead im definitely gonna cop some 101's since i rlly liked streetburners too

no problem dad, anything for you

lol, not tryna be that dude, but did you find the 101's were at least somewhat grippy? im not tryna be spinnin out doughnuts on transitions and shit

101's are slick as shit if you're skating parks or areas with smooth ground. I would literally jump down stairs and slide out sideways upon impact. i tried to skate mine for like a week or so but couldn't do it because i was slipping out with damn near everything. 99's work for me just fine tho. If still lived back in illinois i'd probably be riding the 101's cuz the ground is a lot rougher there, but theres no way id skate them out here on the west coast.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on November 12, 2013, 04:46:44 PM
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The 99's are grippier if that gives you an idea

i understand that, the 99s were pretty slick when i first got em but then went kinda soft after a while. the guminess was annoying. if the 101 is not much slicker than the streetburners I should be good. as long as theyre not like bones stf...
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101's are slick as shit if you're skating parks or areas with smooth ground. I would literally jump down stairs and slide out sideways upon impact. i tried to skate mine for like a week or so but couldn't do it because i was slipping out with damn near everything. 99's work for me just fine tho. If still lived back in illinois i'd probably be riding the 101's cuz the ground is a lot rougher there, but theres no way id skate them out here on the west coast.

yea i could see that, but im out here in miami where the ground aint the nicest, even these 101 ojs arent slidey enough for me
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on November 12, 2013, 04:55:19 PM
Does anyone know if they make the 99 in a size bigger than 58?
It's the indoor park time of year so it's rightfully vert season. I know a couple of millimeters don't make that much of a difference, but the taller the wheel size the wider the riding surface with their full shape wheels. I also don't want Bones because I've always been a spitfire kind of person
Not yet Tom. Seems like expanding the shape/size choices is slow going until they can master producing them in larger numbers.
I am hoping they cut back on the 50-52 choices and add a few more 57-60 choices in different shapes. .
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Dr Steve Brule on November 13, 2013, 02:22:32 PM
Don't try dying them orange.  It doesn't work
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: tom on November 13, 2013, 02:58:19 PM
Does anyone know if they make the 99 in a size bigger than 58?
It's the indoor park time of year so it's rightfully vert season. I know a couple of millimeters don't make that much of a difference, but the taller the wheel size the wider the riding surface with their full shape wheels. I also don't want Bones because I've always been a spitfire kind of person
Not yet Tom. Seems like expanding the shape/size choices is slow going until they can master producing them in larger numbers.
I am hoping they cut back on the 50-52 choices and add a few more 57-60 choices in different shapes. .
i buckled down and had orchard order me the 58's and thunder 151's. now I just have to wait for them to come in. Still riding my 54's on my street setup. A little chunk came out of one of the wheels, but I also skate down really crappy New England roads on a daily basis. Besides that they're still going strong; pretty much the same shape, size, and color as the day I set them up. They also haven't gone soft on me. When I'd ride the street burners, especially the colored ones, they'd sometimes go soft after a few weeks and I could feel my speed decreasing over time. These are still going fast

The first time riding them I couldn't believe how they powerslid fast without shooting out, yet they grip the ground even when you land slightly sideways. I'm hoping out for some color choices in the future, because white wheels all the time are boring
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on November 13, 2013, 09:42:08 PM
IF ANYONE HAS 101 CLASSICS IN A 52-54 THEY WANNA SELL, PM ME!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Bubblegum Tate on November 13, 2013, 09:51:03 PM
Anybody tried dying these yet?
jaime thomas spray-painted the outside part?
GET SET UP I JAMIE THOMAS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpeiXJoXeCw#)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tuna on November 14, 2013, 01:06:24 AM
I haven't technically flatspotted them but there is a chunk missing from one of my wheels that feels like a small flatspot.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: wallieD on November 17, 2013, 03:07:38 AM
Don't try dying them orange.  It doesn't work
are they 101a or 99's? the times i've tried to rit dye wheels it only worked on the ones 99a and softer
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Dr Steve Brule on November 17, 2013, 07:24:36 AM
Don't try dying them orange.  It doesn't work
are they 101a or 99's? the times i've tried to rit dye wheels it only worked on the ones 99a and softer

These are the 99's.  Something about the formula 4's won't dye
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fulfillthedream on November 17, 2013, 07:48:58 PM
I wanna see the results of the diy color dyes!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Life Fast Johnny on November 22, 2013, 05:45:10 PM
I have just about worn out my set of 51mm 101 Classics and thought I'd throw my results out there.  I live in TN and usually skate paved lots and side streets that are super crusty and hard on wheels.  For comparison purposes, I can usually wear through a set of regular Spitfire 99a Classics in a month.

Spitfire Formula Four 51mm 101a Classic Shape

PROS:
-Abrasion resistance.  Normally I will have huge tears and holes in the riding surface by now.  I have one tiny piece out in 2 months.
-Smooth Ride.   Especially considering the 101 durometer.
-Fast.  Great wheel speed for a smaller wheel.

CONS:
-Low rebound.  These felt like they had the least rebound of any Spitfire I've ever skated.  Much less than F1's even.
-Cost.  These cost about $12-$15 more than other wheels and probably don't produce an ROI that justifies their price.

In the end I think they lived up to the claims about speed and wear but I prefer something with more rebound.  I may try some Autobahn's next.

Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: tuque on November 22, 2013, 06:50:12 PM
WTF is rebound,  bro?  And why do people want colored wheels? That's like skating painted trucks... You dudes in 7th grade tho? 



My F4s have been real good
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: LennyDLXSF on December 06, 2013, 11:00:23 AM
I haven't technically flatspotted them but there is a chunk missing from one of my wheels that feels like a small flatspot.

That may be a defect. If you email me a photo i can most likely replace the set for you!

Reed@dlxsf.com
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: louie_bk on December 06, 2013, 02:53:07 PM
I haven't technically flatspotted them but there is a chunk missing from one of my wheels that feels like a small flatspot.

That may be a defect. If you email me a photo i can most likely replace the set for you!

Reed@dlxsf.com

Any word on orange formula fours?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Noid on December 07, 2013, 01:04:27 PM
(http://[url=http://imgur.com/UK9sBPK]http://imgur.com/UK9sBPK[/url])
This was the result of the 99 f4s dyed with half a pack of black rit. I let them soak for 50 mins. Not to pretty

(https://i.imgur.com/UK9sBPK.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on December 07, 2013, 01:22:28 PM
haha...it looks like a potato
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: JBones on December 07, 2013, 01:58:06 PM
Did you boil the water? Get that water as humanly hot as possible and with black dye just use the whole packet in only about a half gallon of water. Let sit for at least a day or 2. Bones STF's took 4 days and it was still faint. Nav's dyes Spitfire Classics over the course of a month. So be patient. It ain't gunna be a quick thing.
The softer the wheel, the better it will dye, the harder the more dense it is and harder to get color into the urethane.
I've dyed a bunch of sets and the wheels that took the best dye job were 97a Powell wheels. They were perfectly a bright blue in a day.
Harder wheels you need more time, and more dye. In the end it's a pain, but it can be done.
Good luck dude and be patient!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: wallieD on December 07, 2013, 05:54:16 PM
Did you boil the water? Get that water as humanly hot as possible and with black dye just use the whole packet in only about a half gallon of water. Let sit for at least a day or 2. Bones STF's took 4 days and it was still faint. Nav's dyes Spitfire Classics over the course of a month. So be patient. It ain't gunna be a quick thing.
The softer the wheel, the better it will dye, the harder the more dense it is and harder to get color into the urethane.
I've dyed a bunch of sets and the wheels that took the best dye job were 97a Powell wheels. They were perfectly a bright blue in a day.
Harder wheels you need more time, and more dye. In the end it's a pain, but it can be done.
Good luck dude and be patient!
didn't you also do them in 10 minutes on the stove?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: JBones on December 07, 2013, 08:18:48 PM
Did you boil the water? Get that water as humanly hot as possible and with black dye just use the whole packet in only about a half gallon of water. Let sit for at least a day or 2. Bones STF's took 4 days and it was still faint. Nav's dyes Spitfire Classics over the course of a month. So be patient. It ain't gunna be a quick thing.
The softer the wheel, the better it will dye, the harder the more dense it is and harder to get color into the urethane.
I've dyed a bunch of sets and the wheels that took the best dye job were 97a Powell wheels. They were perfectly a bright blue in a day.
Harder wheels you need more time, and more dye. In the end it's a pain, but it can be done.
Good luck dude and be patient!
didn't you also do them in 10 minutes on the stove?

Not me dude.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Slappy_Happy on December 07, 2013, 09:22:25 PM
I've been skating my formula fours over the past couple weeks at my local indoor park since the winter is here.  Its so slippery and I haven't slipped out once and these wheels have amazing traction.  I back these things sooo hard and won't be buying anything else as long as they make these
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: JBones on December 08, 2013, 01:42:24 AM
I've been skating my formula fours over the past couple weeks at my local indoor park since the winter is here.  Its so slippery and I haven't slipped out once and these wheels have amazing traction.  I back these things sooo hard and won't be buying anything else as long as they make these

I hear ya. The indoor park I go to is really slippery as well and the Formula Four 99a's have been the best wheel I've ever used there.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Wizard Fight on December 17, 2013, 02:30:00 AM
All wheels are going to get flat spots if you try hard enough, just some more easily than others.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: liltropicalboy on December 19, 2013, 01:34:17 AM
i'm having a hard time picking between the 99s and the 100s. i live in pennsylvania so the street is extremely rough and crusty and i find myself going to parks occasionally. any suggestions?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Wizard Fight on December 19, 2013, 04:50:03 AM
i'm having a hard time picking between the 99s and the 100s. i live in pennsylvania so the street is extremely rough and crusty and i find myself going to parks occasionally. any suggestions?

I looked at them both at the shop and bought the 54mm 101s. I went in thinking I'd buy the 99s but they were a lot softer than I expected, and you can kinda dig your fingernail into them. the 101s are your average rock hard street wheel, maybe even a little harder or more slippery feeling  to me. I live in Eugene, Oregon and most of the roads are fucked here too, but I think the 101s are the way to go for street skating.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: tom on December 19, 2013, 05:44:56 AM
I have slight flatspots on the 99's I got. I have no clue how I got them because I only use the wheels on Masonite ramps, but they're there. I can feel them when I ride on smooth surfaces. It's not the end of the world. They still grip better than anything else out there
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Beer Keg Peg Leg on December 19, 2013, 05:47:29 AM
i finally flatspotted the 101s after like 3 months, i dont even care these wheels are the best
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hash Slinging Slasher on December 23, 2013, 07:19:47 PM
So I noticed today that one of my wheels is starting to cone but not the other three. Weird, because I've never just had one do it on its own.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Probably A Robot on December 23, 2013, 07:50:31 PM
So I noticed today that one of my wheels is starting to cone but not the other three. Weird, because I've never just had one do it on its own.
Which wheel is it? A lot of the time my rear wheel on the toe side cones from leaning on it too much during powerslides.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hash Slinging Slasher on December 23, 2013, 09:32:26 PM
So I noticed today that one of my wheels is starting to cone but not the other three. Weird, because I've never just had one do it on its own.
Which wheel is it? A lot of the time my rear wheel on the toe side cones from leaning on it too much during powerslides.
Front right wheel(heel side for me), but I also just got new trucks so I just put the wheels on how ever I happened to pick them up. I guess that would make sense if it used to be in the back on my toeside though. Thanks for some possible clarification.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Stone2g on December 26, 2013, 07:34:25 PM
This happened to my 51mm classic 101d wheel today. Not really sure how, as I was only skating an indoor park. Think it's worth having DLX check it out for a defect? Only been skating them for a couple weeks.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/dfahau.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/20fq341.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2qi9tec.jpg)

Might just have to sack up and buy a new set.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on December 26, 2013, 07:39:33 PM
deluxe will definitely hook you up with a new set.  shoot them an email.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Flat_Spot on December 26, 2013, 07:39:54 PM
This happened to my 51mm classic 101d wheel today. Not really sure how, as I was only skating an indoor park. Think it's worth having DLX check it out for a defect? Only been skating them for a couple weeks.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/dfahau.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/20fq341.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2qi9tec.jpg)

Might just have to sack up and buy a new set.


I definitely would, a guy who works at deluxe posts here, willing to bet he'll see this and send you a new set. deluxe has the best customer service ever
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Makaveli on December 27, 2013, 10:52:48 AM
i got some satori pricepoint wheels, cost $20, really good. you guys should save your money and stop buying this spitfire bullshit.

and yes, i've skated bones, these formula 4's, i've skated every wheel man, they're all too similar to justify the $$$
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Stone2g on December 27, 2013, 01:06:19 PM
DLX PMed me and handled it. These dudes are the shit and I will never skate another wheel.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: heritage on December 27, 2013, 01:26:53 PM
DLX PMed me and handled it. These dudes are the shit and I will never skate another wheel.

It's exactly how I feel about the dudes that run Autobahn. Killer wheels and unbelievable customer service and backing of their product. I will never skate another wheel.

If anyone is interested in trying F4s, I have a brand new set in the shrink...99/54 in classic shape that I'd sell for $24 shipped to anywhere in the states. I'm pretty sure I paid $38. I bought them while on a skate trip from a local shop in a town we were skating to have as a backup set but I never had to use them. I have so many sets of wheels in front of them I'm most likely never going to use them.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Morty Seinfeld on December 27, 2013, 06:44:36 PM
DLX PMed me and handled it. These dudes are the shit and I will never skate another wheel.

It's exactly how I feel about the dudes that run Autobahn. Killer wheels and unbelievable customer service and backing of their product. I will never skate another wheel.

If anyone is interested in trying F4s, I have a brand new set in the shrink...99/54 in classic shape that I'd sell for $24 shipped to anywhere in the states. I'm pretty sure I paid $38. I bought them while on a skate trip from a local shop in a town we were skating to have as a backup set but I never had to use them. I have so many sets of wheels in front of them I'm most likely never going to use them.

pm'd you.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: LennyDLXSF on December 30, 2013, 10:24:39 AM
This happened to my 51mm classic 101d wheel today. Not really sure how, as I was only skating an indoor park. Think it's worth having DLX check it out for a defect? Only been skating them for a couple weeks.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/dfahau.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/20fq341.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2qi9tec.jpg)

Might just have to sack up and buy a new set.


pm me your address!
that is definitely a rare defect.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: johnes on December 30, 2013, 11:51:25 AM
My wheels got really fucking flatspotted yesterday. It's a bummer.  :-\
They were good while they lasted.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: JAesop on December 30, 2013, 12:06:01 PM
Defect called catching a screw head.  :)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ALABAMAMAN on December 31, 2013, 02:17:44 AM
This happened to my 51mm classic 101d wheel today. Not really sure how, as I was only skating an indoor park. Think it's worth having DLX check it out for a defect? Only been skating them for a couple weeks.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/dfahau.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/20fq341.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2qi9tec.jpg)

Might just have to sack up and buy a new set.


pm me your address!
that is definitely a rare defect.
rare defect???? this shit happens all the time at indoor/skatelite parks. the metal flashing at the bottom of banks or quarter pipe slice the wheels bro. It has nothing to do with the wheel.

just skate threw it and stop looking for a hand out
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Stone2g on December 31, 2013, 10:45:45 AM
This happened to my 51mm classic 101d wheel today. Not really sure how, as I was only skating an indoor park. Think it's worth having DLX check it out for a defect? Only been skating them for a couple weeks.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/dfahau.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/20fq341.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2qi9tec.jpg)

Might just have to sack up and buy a new set.


pm me your address!
that is definitely a rare defect.
rare defect???? this shit happens all the time at indoor/skatelite parks. the metal flashing at the bottom of banks or quarter pipe slice the wheels bro. It has nothing to do with the wheel.

just skate threw it and stop looking for a hand out


Well I don't really skate indoor parks all that much but, yeah, seems like I may have caught a screwhead.

No one is looking for a handout, you broke faggot. I just have never had this happen to me, or seen it. I was just curious since they were F4s.

Also, I'll make sure to skate THROUGH it, you dumb fuck.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: RaptorJesus on December 31, 2013, 10:54:08 AM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF9YHwmzp94 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF9YHwmzp94#)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: JAesop on December 31, 2013, 12:35:58 PM
Glad DLX hooked you up...good customer service.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dask8d00d on December 31, 2013, 01:15:29 PM

Well I don't really skate indoor parks all that much but, yeah, seems like I may have caught a screwhead.

No one is looking for a handout, you broke faggot. I just have never had this happen to me, or seen it. I was just curious since they were F4s.

Also, I'll make sure to skate THROUGH it, you dumb fuck.

(http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130410135729/glee/images/f/f0/JUSTY.gif)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Stone2g on December 31, 2013, 02:19:12 PM

Well I don't really skate indoor parks all that much but, yeah, seems like I may have caught a screwhead.

No one is looking for a handout, you broke faggot. I just have never had this happen to me, or seen it. I was just curious since they were F4s.

Also, I'll make sure to skate THROUGH it, you dumb fuck.

(http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130410135729/glee/images/f/f0/JUSTY.gif)

I ain't even mad tho
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Noid on January 01, 2014, 12:41:31 AM
Did you boil the water? Get that water as humanly hot as possible and with black dye just use the whole packet in only about a half gallon of water. Let sit for at least a day or 2. Bones STF's took 4 days and it was still faint. Nav's dyes Spitfire Classics over the course of a month. So be patient. It ain't gunna be a quick thing.
The softer the wheel, the better it will dye, the harder the more dense it is and harder to get color into the urethane.
I've dyed a bunch of sets and the wheels that took the best dye job were 97a Powell wheels. They were perfectly a bright blue in a day.
Harder wheels you need more time, and more dye. In the end it's a pain, but it can be done.
Good luck dude and be patient!

sorry for taking so long to reply. I forgot I posted in this thread. Anyways, I brought the water to a boil, added half the dye and brought the stove down to a medium high, just barley under boiling.

I just ordered another pair off the 99 classics and want to dye them with the "lemon" colored liquid dye. Do you think the dye is dark enough to get a solid color on the pearly spits?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on January 01, 2014, 12:53:17 AM
Finally swapped mine out after four months, longest time ive had a pair of wheels, loved these, hopefully they bring out the manderson shape in these and i'll be set for life
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ALABAMAMAN on January 01, 2014, 01:20:14 AM
This happened to my 51mm classic 101d wheel today. Not really sure how, as I was only skating an indoor park. Think it's worth having DLX check it out for a defect? Only been skating them for a couple weeks.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/dfahau.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/20fq341.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2qi9tec.jpg)

Might just have to sack up and buy a new set.


pm me your address!
that is definitely a rare defect.
rare defect???? this shit happens all the time at indoor/skatelite parks. the metal flashing at the bottom of banks or quarter pipe slice the wheels bro. It has nothing to do with the wheel.

just skate threw it and stop looking for a hand out


Well I don't really skate indoor parks all that much but, yeah, seems like I may have caught a screwhead.

No one is looking for a handout, you broke faggot. I just have never had this happen to me, or seen it. I was just curious since they were F4s.

Also, I'll make sure to skate THROUGH it, you dumb fuck.
(http://i42.tinypic.com/e83a7q.jpg)
new boards 3 sets of wheels and a pair of fallens that don't come out till spring 14.. Whose the broke fuck
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Beer Keg Peg Leg on January 01, 2014, 01:25:56 AM
not you, im sure someone gave you a hefty sum to take those hideous shoes off their hands
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ALABAMAMAN on January 01, 2014, 01:35:41 AM
not you, im sure someone gave you a hefty sum to take those hideous shoes off their hands
ROLL TIDE
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: JBones on January 01, 2014, 06:28:13 AM
Did you boil the water? Get that water as humanly hot as possible and with black dye just use the whole packet in only about a half gallon of water. Let sit for at least a day or 2. Bones STF's took 4 days and it was still faint. Nav's dyes Spitfire Classics over the course of a month. So be patient. It ain't gunna be a quick thing.
The softer the wheel, the better it will dye, the harder the more dense it is and harder to get color into the urethane.
I've dyed a bunch of sets and the wheels that took the best dye job were 97a Powell wheels. They were perfectly a bright blue in a day.
Harder wheels you need more time, and more dye. In the end it's a pain, but it can be done.
Good luck dude and be patient!

sorry for taking so long to reply. I forgot I posted in this thread. Anyways, I brought the water to a boil, added half the dye and brought the stove down to a medium high, just barley under boiling.

I just ordered another pair off the 99 classics and want to dye them with the "lemon" colored liquid dye. Do you think the dye is dark enough to get a solid color on the pearly spits?
Hey man, yeah, the yellow will work. My buddy did a set with the yellow and they came out actually pretty good.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5V-kXNWttKs/T49jfHgnSXI/AAAAAAAAAo0/IPwAP_21lrE/s1600/IMG_0857.JPG)
The whiter the wheel, the better the dye takes. Softer the wheel, the easier and deeper in the dye takes.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Noid on January 01, 2014, 12:25:42 PM
^those look sick, thanks for the reply
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ThugWaffle on January 01, 2014, 12:58:38 PM
This happened to my 51mm classic 101d wheel today. Not really sure how, as I was only skating an indoor park. Think it's worth having DLX check it out for a defect? Only been skating them for a couple weeks.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/dfahau.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/20fq341.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2qi9tec.jpg)

Might just have to sack up and buy a new set.


pm me your address!
that is definitely a rare defect.
rare defect???? this shit happens all the time at indoor/skatelite parks. the metal flashing at the bottom of banks or quarter pipe slice the wheels bro. It has nothing to do with the wheel.

just skate threw it and stop looking for a hand out


Well I don't really skate indoor parks all that much but, yeah, seems like I may have caught a screwhead.

No one is looking for a handout, you broke faggot. I just have never had this happen to me, or seen it. I was just curious since they were F4s.

Also, I'll make sure to skate THROUGH it, you dumb fuck.
(http://i42.tinypic.com/e83a7q.jpg)
new boards 3 sets of wheels and a pair of fallens that don't come out till spring 14.. Whose the broke fuck


SO RICH
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ALABAMAMAN on January 01, 2014, 03:05:21 PM
This happened to my 51mm classic 101d wheel today. Not really sure how, as I was only skating an indoor park. Think it's worth having DLX check it out for a defect? Only been skating them for a couple weeks.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/dfahau.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/20fq341.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2qi9tec.jpg)

Might just have to sack up and buy a new set.


pm me your address!
that is definitely a rare defect.
rare defect???? this shit happens all the time at indoor/skatelite parks. the metal flashing at the bottom of banks or quarter pipe slice the wheels bro. It has nothing to do with the wheel.

just skate threw it and stop looking for a hand out


Well I don't really skate indoor parks all that much but, yeah, seems like I may have caught a screwhead.

No one is looking for a handout, you broke faggot. I just have never had this happen to me, or seen it. I was just curious since they were F4s.

Also, I'll make sure to skate THROUGH it, you dumb fuck.
(http://i42.tinypic.com/e83a7q.jpg)
new boards 3 sets of wheels and a pair of fallens that don't come out till spring 14.. Whose the broke fuck


SO RICH
(http://i42.tinypic.com/65vdqb.jpg) don't hate
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ALABAMAMAN on January 01, 2014, 03:08:15 PM
(http://i43.tinypic.com/651g6c.jpg)
I found these too last longer then the new batch of F4
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: silkyjohnson on January 01, 2014, 03:42:31 PM
You remind of this hypebeast in my psychology class who is always Bragging how much his jeans cost. 
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: smokecrack on January 01, 2014, 04:15:14 PM
You remind of this hypebeast in my psychology class who is always Bragging how much his jeans cost. 

and isn't ALABAMAMAN friends with sponsored skaters? i'm pretty sure i've heard him talk about letting pros/ams stay at his place.

this dude gets product kicked-down by homies and is trying to stunt on slap like he's got paper.

hey BAMAMAN, post pics of your whip and bitch too!

shut them haters down, brah.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: sweat stains on January 01, 2014, 08:28:42 PM
Got a flatspot today. I'm on my second set and they both lasted me more than three months. Best wheels out there.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: johnes on January 01, 2014, 09:01:14 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/GJJcT8R.jpg)

I've always just skated whichever wheels were the cheapest at my skateshop. I recently got STFS for the first time and formula 4's, these are the flat spots I got, but now that it's been a couple months I def like the 4's more than anything I can remember, but really i don't mind skating cheap wheels.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ALABAMAMAN on January 01, 2014, 11:10:38 PM
You remind of this hypebeast in my psychology class who is always Bragging how much his jeans cost. 

and isn't ALABAMAMAN friends with sponsored skaters? i'm pretty sure i've heard him talk about letting pros/ams stay at his place.

this dude gets product kicked-down by homies and is trying to stunt on slap like he's got paper.

hey BAMAMAN, post pics of your whip and bitch too!

shut them haters down, brah.

You mad you don't get homie boxes. Never acted rich playur but my 150$ Carhartt pants ripped the other day
(http://i43.tinypic.com/24vtixe.jpg)
VAN LIFE PLAYUR!!!!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Noid on January 02, 2014, 01:57:52 AM
Did you boil the water? Get that water as humanly hot as possible and with black dye just use the whole packet in only about a half gallon of water. Let sit for at least a day or 2. Bones STF's took 4 days and it was still faint. Nav's dyes Spitfire Classics over the course of a month. So be patient. It ain't gunna be a quick thing.
The softer the wheel, the better it will dye, the harder the more dense it is and harder to get color into the urethane.
I've dyed a bunch of sets and the wheels that took the best dye job were 97a Powell wheels. They were perfectly a bright blue in a day.
Harder wheels you need more time, and more dye. In the end it's a pain, but it can be done.
Good luck dude and be patient!

sorry for taking so long to reply. I forgot I posted in this thread. Anyways, I brought the water to a boil, added half the dye and brought the stove down to a medium high, just barley under boiling.

I just ordered another pair off the 99 classics and want to dye them with the "lemon" colored liquid dye. Do you think the dye is dark enough to get a solid color on the pearly spits?
Hey man, yeah, the yellow will work. My buddy did a set with the yellow and they came out actually pretty good.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5V-kXNWttKs/T49jfHgnSXI/AAAAAAAAAo0/IPwAP_21lrE/s1600/IMG_0857.JPG)
The whiter the wheel, the better the dye takes. Softer the wheel, the easier and deeper in the dye takes.

Do you know what specific yellow dye he used and how long he had to soak them?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: art hellman on January 02, 2014, 10:14:12 AM
DLX PMed me and handled it. These dudes are the shit and I will never skate another wheel.

It's exactly how I feel about the dudes that run Autobahn. Killer wheels and unbelievable customer service and backing of their product. I will never skate another wheel.

If anyone is interested in trying F4s, I have a brand new set in the shrink...99/54 in classic shape that I'd sell for $24 shipped to anywhere in the states. I'm pretty sure I paid $38. I bought them while on a skate trip from a local shop in a town we were skating to have as a backup set but I never had to use them. I have so many sets of wheels in front of them I'm most likely never going to use them.

pm'd
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: LennyDLXSF on January 02, 2014, 11:17:06 AM
Finally swapped mine out after four months, longest time ive had a pair of wheels, loved these, hopefully they bring out the manderson shape in these and i'll be set for life

Manderson shape is coming very soon.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dillanharp on January 02, 2014, 11:20:30 AM
You remind of this hypebeast in my psychology class who is always Bragging how much his jeans cost. 

and isn't ALABAMAMAN friends with sponsored skaters? i'm pretty sure i've heard him talk about letting pros/ams stay at his place.

this dude gets product kicked-down by homies and is trying to stunt on slap like he's got paper.

hey BAMAMAN, post pics of your whip and bitch too!

shut them haters down, brah.

You mad you don't get homie boxes handouts. Never acted rich playur but my 150$ Carhartt pants ripped the other day
(http://i43.tinypic.com/24vtixe.jpg)
VAN LIFE PLAYUR!!!!

Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: sweat stains on January 02, 2014, 11:44:00 AM
Finally swapped mine out after four months, longest time ive had a pair of wheels, loved these, hopefully they bring out the manderson shape in these and i'll be set for life

Manderson shape is coming very soon.
What's up with the colored F4s? I saw those green samples, I'd be so hyped on some pink ones!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: JBones on January 02, 2014, 01:39:28 PM
Did you boil the water? Get that water as humanly hot as possible and with black dye just use the whole packet in only about a half gallon of water. Let sit for at least a day or 2. Bones STF's took 4 days and it was still faint. Nav's dyes Spitfire Classics over the course of a month. So be patient. It ain't gunna be a quick thing.
The softer the wheel, the better it will dye, the harder the more dense it is and harder to get color into the urethane.
I've dyed a bunch of sets and the wheels that took the best dye job were 97a Powell wheels. They were perfectly a bright blue in a day.
Harder wheels you need more time, and more dye. In the end it's a pain, but it can be done.
Good luck dude and be patient!

sorry for taking so long to reply. I forgot I posted in this thread. Anyways, I brought the water to a boil, added half the dye and brought the stove down to a medium high, just barley under boiling.

I just ordered another pair off the 99 classics and want to dye them with the "lemon" colored liquid dye. Do you think the dye is dark enough to get a solid color on the pearly spits?
Hey man, yeah, the yellow will work. My buddy did a set with the yellow and they came out actually pretty good.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5V-kXNWttKs/T49jfHgnSXI/AAAAAAAAAo0/IPwAP_21lrE/s1600/IMG_0857.JPG)
The whiter the wheel, the better the dye takes. Softer the wheel, the easier and deeper in the dye takes.

Do you know what specific yellow dye he used and how long he had to soak them?
Rit dye, Lemon Yellow. Start w/ a teaspoon to about 3 cups of boiling water. Let sit for 5 minutes.
Take the wheel out, check it, see how light or dark it is. Then you decide if you need to add more dye, hotter water and or leave in longer. Once you find the right mixture of the dye to water ratio, and it's not going to be too light or too dark you can then leave the wheels in a long time and keep stirring them. Once they cool, stir them every once in a while to keep them from floating and making one side darker than the rest. The longer sitting time will make the dye seep further into the urethane so that when you wear the wheels down they will still be colored all the way through. The boiling water dye mixture will be the most powerful of these things when getting most of the color into the wheels. Everything else after that is a waiting game. With a super white wheel and hot enough water/dye combo you can wing it in no time w/ light colors like a yellow. The darker colors take longer. I've done blues and greens and I leave them in for days and keep reheating the dye too to kinda rush it along. Navarette two-tone dyes his wheels for a month in Rit black dye. So just know, when dying urethane wheels ya gotta be patient. I've done a bunch of wheel dye jobs, some good, some bad, but funky, it's an experiment and always a gamble, but it's a fun and cheap way to play around w/ yer setup.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: LennyDLXSF on January 02, 2014, 02:28:45 PM
Finally swapped mine out after four months, longest time ive had a pair of wheels, loved these, hopefully they bring out the manderson shape in these and i'll be set for life

Manderson shape is coming very soon.
What's up with the colored F4s? I saw those green samples, I'd be so hyped on some pink ones!

Colors are coming very soon as well. We have some prototypes going, and full production isn't far off!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on January 02, 2014, 04:09:50 PM
Finally swapped mine out after four months, longest time ive had a pair of wheels, loved these, hopefully they bring out the manderson shape in these and i'll be set for life

Manderson shape is coming very soon.

You made my day Lenny,  :-*
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Noid on January 02, 2014, 05:08:52 PM
Did you boil the water? Get that water as humanly hot as possible and with black dye just use the whole packet in only about a half gallon of water. Let sit for at least a day or 2. Bones STF's took 4 days and it was still faint. Nav's dyes Spitfire Classics over the course of a month. So be patient. It ain't gunna be a quick thing.
The softer the wheel, the better it will dye, the harder the more dense it is and harder to get color into the urethane.
I've dyed a bunch of sets and the wheels that took the best dye job were 97a Powell wheels. They were perfectly a bright blue in a day.
Harder wheels you need more time, and more dye. In the end it's a pain, but it can be done.
Good luck dude and be patient!

sorry for taking so long to reply. I forgot I posted in this thread. Anyways, I brought the water to a boil, added half the dye and brought the stove down to a medium high, just barley under boiling.

I just ordered another pair off the 99 classics and want to dye them with the "lemon" colored liquid dye. Do you think the dye is dark enough to get a solid color on the pearly spits?
Hey man, yeah, the yellow will work. My buddy did a set with the yellow and they came out actually pretty good.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5V-kXNWttKs/T49jfHgnSXI/AAAAAAAAAo0/IPwAP_21lrE/s1600/IMG_0857.JPG)
The whiter the wheel, the better the dye takes. Softer the wheel, the easier and deeper in the dye takes.

Do you know what specific yellow dye he used and how long he had to soak them?
Rit dye, Lemon Yellow. Start w/ a teaspoon to about 3 cups of boiling water. Let sit for 5 minutes.
Take the wheel out, check it, see how light or dark it is. Then you decide if you need to add more dye, hotter water and or leave in longer. Once you find the right mixture of the dye to water ratio, and it's not going to be too light or too dark you can then leave the wheels in a long time and keep stirring them. Once they cool, stir them every once in a while to keep them from floating and making one side darker than the rest. The longer sitting time will make the dye seep further into the urethane so that when you wear the wheels down they will still be colored all the way through. The boiling water dye mixture will be the most powerful of these things when getting most of the color into the wheels. Everything else after that is a waiting game. With a super white wheel and hot enough water/dye combo you can wing it in no time w/ light colors like a yellow. The darker colors take longer. I've done blues and greens and I leave them in for days and keep reheating the dye too to kinda rush it along. Navarette two-tone dyes his wheels for a month in Rit black dye. So just know, when dying urethane wheels ya gotta be patient. I've done a bunch of wheel dye jobs, some good, some bad, but funky, it's an experiment and always a gamble, but it's a fun and cheap way to play around w/ yer setup.

sweet, alright thanks for all the help man
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: JBones on January 03, 2014, 12:07:13 PM
Did you boil the water? Get that water as humanly hot as possible and with black dye just use the whole packet in only about a half gallon of water. Let sit for at least a day or 2. Bones STF's took 4 days and it was still faint. Nav's dyes Spitfire Classics over the course of a month. So be patient. It ain't gunna be a quick thing.
The softer the wheel, the better it will dye, the harder the more dense it is and harder to get color into the urethane.
I've dyed a bunch of sets and the wheels that took the best dye job were 97a Powell wheels. They were perfectly a bright blue in a day.
Harder wheels you need more time, and more dye. In the end it's a pain, but it can be done.
Good luck dude and be patient!

sorry for taking so long to reply. I forgot I posted in this thread. Anyways, I brought the water to a boil, added half the dye and brought the stove down to a medium high, just barley under boiling.

I just ordered another pair off the 99 classics and want to dye them with the "lemon" colored liquid dye. Do you think the dye is dark enough to get a solid color on the pearly spits?
Hey man, yeah, the yellow will work. My buddy did a set with the yellow and they came out actually pretty good.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5V-kXNWttKs/T49jfHgnSXI/AAAAAAAAAo0/IPwAP_21lrE/s1600/IMG_0857.JPG)
The whiter the wheel, the better the dye takes. Softer the wheel, the easier and deeper in the dye takes.

Do you know what specific yellow dye he used and how long he had to soak them?
Rit dye, Lemon Yellow. Start w/ a teaspoon to about 3 cups of boiling water. Let sit for 5 minutes.
Take the wheel out, check it, see how light or dark it is. Then you decide if you need to add more dye, hotter water and or leave in longer. Once you find the right mixture of the dye to water ratio, and it's not going to be too light or too dark you can then leave the wheels in a long time and keep stirring them. Once they cool, stir them every once in a while to keep them from floating and making one side darker than the rest. The longer sitting time will make the dye seep further into the urethane so that when you wear the wheels down they will still be colored all the way through. The boiling water dye mixture will be the most powerful of these things when getting most of the color into the wheels. Everything else after that is a waiting game. With a super white wheel and hot enough water/dye combo you can wing it in no time w/ light colors like a yellow. The darker colors take longer. I've done blues and greens and I leave them in for days and keep reheating the dye too to kinda rush it along. Navarette two-tone dyes his wheels for a month in Rit black dye. So just know, when dying urethane wheels ya gotta be patient. I've done a bunch of wheel dye jobs, some good, some bad, but funky, it's an experiment and always a gamble, but it's a fun and cheap way to play around w/ yer setup.

sweet, alright thanks for all the help man
No prob, good luck!  :)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on January 03, 2014, 12:31:41 PM
yo is there any difference between the F4's that come in the new packaging, versus the ones that are packaged like the regular spits? same graphic on both
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: LennyDLXSF on January 03, 2014, 03:36:35 PM
yo is there any difference between the F4's that come in the new packaging, versus the ones that are packaged like the regular spits? same graphic on both

No difference. They're just from before we decided on the new packaging.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on January 03, 2014, 06:05:41 PM
yo is there any difference between the F4's that come in the new packaging, versus the ones that are packaged like the regular spits? same graphic on both

No difference. They're just from before we decided on the new packaging.

cool thanks mane
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: tom on January 04, 2014, 09:26:23 AM
Reed get those colors going already. I tried my friends f1's the other day. I used to think they were extremely grippy, but now it feels like skating on ice. If you go back to anything else, which i really dont know why you would, it might take a little getting used to again.

Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Noid on January 04, 2014, 05:27:54 PM
I ended using evening blue rather than yellow, I am really happy with how they turned out.

fixed
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: JBones on January 04, 2014, 10:24:08 PM
Can't see em bro...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on January 05, 2014, 09:28:40 AM
I ended using evening blue rather than yellow, I am really happy with how they turned out.

fixed


damn ngl i hate colored wheels but those look sick
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: JBones on January 05, 2014, 08:36:27 PM
I ended using evening blue rather than yellow, I am really happy with how they turned out.

fixed


Nice man!

The last color I dyed was using Rit Aqua-marine liquid dye. Left wheels in for 4 days. It came out the brightest royal blue of all the wheels I've ever done. The wheels were 97a Powells though, so they took dye really well. I can see how the off white color of the F4's would sorta augment the color you'd be dying.
Nice job bro!  :)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Noid on January 05, 2014, 10:16:09 PM
I ended using evening blue rather than yellow, I am really happy with how they turned out.

fixed


Nice man!

The last color I dyed was using Rit Aqua-marine liquid dye. Left wheels in for 4 days. It came out the brightest royal blue of all the wheels I've ever done. The wheels were 97a Powells though, so they took dye really well. I can see how the off white color of the F4's would sorta augment the color you'd be dying.
Nice job bro!  :)

Thanks, I took your advice and kept the water as hot as I could, so it only took about an hour or so. And when I took them out they were so soft they bounced like super balls haha
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: JBones on January 07, 2014, 02:20:35 AM
I ended using evening blue rather than yellow, I am really happy with how they turned out.

fixed


Nice man!

The last color I dyed was using Rit Aqua-marine liquid dye. Left wheels in for 4 days. It came out the brightest royal blue of all the wheels I've ever done. The wheels were 97a Powells though, so they took dye really well. I can see how the off white color of the F4's would sorta augment the color you'd be dying.
Nice job bro!  :)

Thanks, I took your advice and kept the water as hot as I could, so it only took about an hour or so. And when I took them out they were so soft they bounced like super balls haha

Haha, you should see what it's like dying Bones STF and SPF's! REBOUND gone wild after boiling i'm sure...never tried to bounce them as I let them sit in the dye for days after that that boiling point.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: felix. on January 07, 2014, 03:07:07 PM
i finally got round to buying a set. 51mm Full Shape 98A Durometer. they were really cheap and in the full shape which is quite hard to find, i can't wait to see what they're like. just hope the fucking ground dries up sometime soon!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: The Nose Face on January 10, 2014, 08:54:56 AM
i finally got round to buying a set. 51mm Full Shape 98A Durometer. they were really cheap and in the full shape which is quite hard to find, i can't wait to see what they're like. just hope the fucking ground dries up sometime soon!

I wanna find the 98a's in 54 MM and full shape - but it's hard to find. Even the normal sites I check online don't have any stock.

Anyone know of a site?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on January 10, 2014, 10:07:43 AM
http://www.actionvillage.com/spitfire-wheels-formula-four-99-du-full-shape-55mm-skateboard-wheels.html (http://www.actionvillage.com/spitfire-wheels-formula-four-99-du-full-shape-55mm-skateboard-wheels.html)

^^???
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on January 10, 2014, 01:39:48 PM
Quote from: The Nose Face  link=topic=68020.msg2067708#msg2067708 date=1389372896
i finally got round to buying a set. 51mm Full Shape 98A Durometer. they were really cheap and in the full shape which is quite hard to find, i can't wait to see what they're like. just hope the fucking ground dries up sometime soon!

I wanna find the 98a's in 54 MM and full shape - but it's hard to find. Even the normal sites I check online don't have any stock.

Anyone know of a site?

I don't think they made the full shape in 54 this time around, it was 51,53,55 I believe
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on January 10, 2014, 10:03:45 PM
Correct, and theyre technically 99a.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on January 10, 2014, 11:29:16 PM
skimming through a few pages i noticed a few things
 
f4 aren't total flatspot garbage
there aren't any colors
they are packed horizontally

23 pages... yea so is this the holy grail of skateboard wheels? fucks sake
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: GY on January 11, 2014, 07:00:22 AM
Pretty bummed, mine got chipped up after a few days and I thought nothing of it, now they are just getting worse and sounding mad flat spotted.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on January 11, 2014, 12:12:28 PM
Pretty bummed, mine got chipped up after a few days and I thought nothing of it, now they are just getting worse and sounding mad flat spotted.

contact dlx man, they may hook u up.

i gotta say i just set up the 101's after some bones 100's i got and im feeling em. wheels are wheels, but if they manage not to flatspot, ill be skating em forever
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: GY on January 16, 2014, 09:05:33 AM
Pretty bummed, mine got chipped up after a few days and I thought nothing of it, now they are just getting worse and sounding mad flat spotted.

contact dlx man, they may hook u up.

i gotta say i just set up the 101's after some bones 100's i got and im feeling em. wheels are wheels, but if they manage not to flatspot, ill be skating em forever

Turns out they did hook me up, Shiner sent these today. Cheers Lenny!

(http://s29.postimg.org/4kf22xh6v/spit_form_four.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: LennyDLXSF on January 16, 2014, 09:34:35 AM
Pretty bummed, mine got chipped up after a few days and I thought nothing of it, now they are just getting worse and sounding mad flat spotted.

contact dlx man, they may hook u up.

i gotta say i just set up the 101's after some bones 100's i got and im feeling em. wheels are wheels, but if they manage not to flatspot, ill be skating em forever

Turns out they did hook me up, Shiner sent these today. Cheers Lenny!

(http://s29.postimg.org/4kf22xh6v/spit_form_four.jpg)

Happy to help!

Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on January 19, 2014, 02:31:29 PM
(http://distilleryimage8.s3.amazonaws.com/6e0f2cee7fb711e383b71261062e4ae8_8.jpg)

Anyone seen these yet?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: soccer mom on January 19, 2014, 03:03:23 PM
not yet...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Terry on January 19, 2014, 05:04:36 PM
Got the 51mm 101 duro's best wheels I've ever had but as someone else said mine did get some chips out of them pretty quickly and some weird cuts on the inside, guess just from grinding square coping or something.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on January 19, 2014, 05:12:40 PM
(http://distilleryimage8.s3.amazonaws.com/6e0f2cee7fb711e383b71261062e4ae8_8.jpg)

Anyone seen these yet?
Ha, my instagram pic! The colored ones look good. Setting some up this week.
Got the scoop about full shape f4's and manderson shape, they are cutting new molds now, something was causing problems with the old ones.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: tangar on January 19, 2014, 05:30:50 PM
If they make colored 99s in the wider shapes by feb, I might have to buy my first set of colored (non-cruiser) wheels ever.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Flat_Spot on January 19, 2014, 05:40:16 PM
those colored ones look sick, definitely getting some. I tried RIT dying some orange yesterday and let them sit overnight, just made them looked like old yellowed wheels but I've had them since october so not too bummed.
(http://i.imgur.com/TeuiF9D.png)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on January 19, 2014, 10:27:58 PM

Anyone seen these yet?
Ha, my instagram pic! The colored ones look good. Setting some up this week.
Got the scoop about full shape f4's and manderson shape, they are cutting new molds now, something was causing problems with the old ones.

I was hoping you'd see that, haha, can't wait for these manderson f4s, going back to the classic ones don't feel as good as they used too
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: JBones on January 19, 2014, 11:13:26 PM
those colored ones look sick, definitely getting some. I tried RIT dying some orange yesterday and let them sit overnight, just made them looked like old yellowed wheels but I've had them since october so not too bummed.
(http://i.imgur.com/TeuiF9D.png)
Use a heck of alot more dye to the amount of water ratio, and make sure it's boiling hot.
Let them soak 2-3 days minimum, they'd get alot darker...and more "orange".
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: art hellman on January 20, 2014, 06:30:38 AM
skated some F4 54 99a for the first time on insanely dusty ramps, worked better than anything I've else I've tried. 
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Jared on January 20, 2014, 09:59:50 AM
Just bought a pair of 54mm 99a the other day and I love them.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Frank on January 20, 2014, 01:27:02 PM
those colored ones look sick, definitely getting some. I tried RIT dying some orange yesterday and let them sit overnight, just made them looked like old yellowed wheels but I've had them since october so not too bummed.
(http://i.imgur.com/TeuiF9D.png)
Use a heck of alot more dye to the amount of water ratio, and make sure it's boiling hot.
Let them soak 2-3 days minimum, they'd get alot darker...and more "orange".

would it work with a similar dye like rit? i have some blank wheels on deck i'd try to dye and i have a small pack of random cloth dye left...
guess i'll just try it out and maybe throw a white-t in there, too.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: JBones on January 20, 2014, 03:04:41 PM
those colored ones look sick, definitely getting some. I tried RIT dying some orange yesterday and let them sit overnight, just made them looked like old yellowed wheels but I've had them since october so not too bummed.
(http://i.imgur.com/TeuiF9D.png)
Use a heck of alot more dye to the amount of water ratio, and make sure it's boiling hot.
Let them soak 2-3 days minimum, they'd get alot darker...and more "orange".

would it work with a similar dye like rit? i have some blank wheels on deck i'd try to dye and i have a small pack of random cloth dye left...
guess i'll just try it out and maybe throw a white-t in there, too.
For some really weird reason only Rit works. it's really weird. Dylon and Tulip dyes, which are in the class of Rit did absolutely nothing when I tried them both. Really weird, but only Rit works. The liquid Rit actually works best because it's concentrated, but the powder Rit works just as good if you can't find the liquid.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Frank on January 21, 2014, 11:43:50 AM
^

ok, thanks j bones! think i'm gonna do it vice versa, dye a shirt, throw some wheels in there for a surprise. probably have to order some rit then at amazon...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: JBones on January 21, 2014, 01:25:11 PM
You can get a few basic colors of Rit dye at Walmart and Target, but Jo-Ann Fabrics usually has the most colors Rit makes.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: wallieD on January 21, 2014, 03:05:07 PM

^ and most groceries have some around the laundry detergent. or if you go on ebay you can find every color for about 3.50 with free shipping
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Frank on January 22, 2014, 03:09:30 PM
thanks pals! i live in germany though. as far as i've seen, amazon seems to be the easiest way to get a hold of og rit dye. costs from 4-5 euros a pack so it's not even more expensive than common dye over here.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: JBones on January 23, 2014, 01:34:36 AM
thanks pals! i live in germany though. as far as i've seen, amazon seems to be the easiest way to get a hold of og rit dye. costs from 4-5 euros a pack so it's not even more expensive than common dye over here.

Ahhh, gotcha. Good luck brother!  ;D
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: MostlyLurkin' on January 23, 2014, 03:07:13 PM
Anyone know where I can get a hold of the team edt.'s?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on January 23, 2014, 03:47:01 PM
Anyone know where I can get a hold of the team edt.'s?

why?  I have used ones...doubt you'll want them
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on January 23, 2014, 11:01:12 PM
Anyone know where I can get a hold of the team edt.'s?

were they really that much better?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ALABAMAMAN on January 23, 2014, 11:10:12 PM
no, still have 2 sets of the team edt left that are yellower then the new f4 and thats about it.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on February 17, 2014, 11:48:05 PM
Bumping this, anyone know when full shape or SFW formula fours will be around, got a set left but don't wanna burn through them if it'll be a while until new ones are around
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on February 18, 2014, 07:31:57 AM
Bumping this, anyone know when full shape or SFW formula fours will be around, got a set left but don't wanna burn through them if it'll be a while until new ones are around
Last email I got about it said the molds had to be re done. That was over a month ago. Assuming they will be available soon.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on February 18, 2014, 11:34:33 AM
Thanks bv
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: LennyDLXSF on February 18, 2014, 02:30:40 PM
Bumping this, anyone know when full shape or SFW formula fours will be around, got a set left but don't wanna burn through them if it'll be a while until new ones are around

Taking longer than expected.
No definite date.

sorry dudes.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on February 18, 2014, 03:15:11 PM
They're worth the wait, guess ill stick too regular sfw's for the moment Thanks Lenny
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: louie_bk on February 18, 2014, 04:45:19 PM
Bumping this, anyone know when full shape or SFW formula fours will be around, got a set left but don't wanna burn through them if it'll be a while until new ones are around

Taking longer than expected.
No definite date.

sorry dudes.

Any chance of orange 99a SFW formula fours ever being made or are they just gonna keep them to the classic 101a?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Bubblegum Tate on February 18, 2014, 10:39:44 PM
sp '14 is up..

I will get those teal F4's.

http://www.dlxsf.com/spring14/sf/ (http://www.dlxsf.com/spring14/sf/)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on February 19, 2014, 06:53:13 AM
Sorry for a little spam but we have most sizes/colors in all the f4 and a few tablet and full shapes in small sizes. Always load people up with stickers and stuff too when they order.
http://www.35thavenue.com/shop/Skateboards/Wheels/Spitfire.htm (http://www.35thavenue.com/shop/Skateboards/Wheels/Spitfire.htm)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Morty Seinfeld on February 19, 2014, 06:40:27 PM
Sorry for a little spam but we have most sizes/colors in all the f4 and a few tablet and full shapes in small sizes. Always load people up with stickers and stuff too when they order.
http://www.35thavenue.com/shop/Skateboards/Wheels/Spitfire.htm (http://www.35thavenue.com/shop/Skateboards/Wheels/Spitfire.htm)

bookmarked.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hellagood on February 20, 2014, 08:59:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqEjW3jFGFE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqEjW3jFGFE)

My bad if its been posted already but this is tight
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: The Nose Face on February 24, 2014, 09:54:17 AM
Are they not going to make the f4's in Full or Tablet shapes anymore - didn't see these styles in the new teal/orange, only classic shape.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on February 24, 2014, 10:00:36 AM
Quote from: The Nose Face  link=topic=68020.msg2096666#msg2096666 date=1393264457
Are they not going to make the f4's in Full or Tablet shapes anymore - didn't see these styles in the new teal/orange, only classic shape.
See below
Bumping this, anyone know when full shape or SFW formula fours will be around, got a set left but don't wanna burn through them if it'll be a while until new ones are around

Taking longer than expected.
No definite date.

sorry dudes.

Any chance of orange 99a SFW formula fours ever being made or are they just gonna keep them to the classic 101a?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: The Nose Face on February 24, 2014, 10:03:05 AM
Quote from: The Nose Face  link=topic=68020.msg2096666#msg2096666 date=1393264457
Are they not going to make the f4's in Full or Tablet shapes anymore - didn't see these styles in the new teal/orange, only classic shape.
See below
Bumping this, anyone know when full shape or SFW formula fours will be around, got a set left but don't wanna burn through them if it'll be a while until new ones are around

Taking longer than expected.
No definite date.

sorry dudes.

Any chance of orange 99a SFW formula fours ever being made or are they just gonna keep them to the classic 101a?

Word, didn't realize...thanks
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on February 24, 2014, 10:03:43 AM
No worries, i am also patiently waiting.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fulfillthedream on February 25, 2014, 12:58:57 AM
No worries, i am also patiently waiting.

50 cent & Eminem - Patiently Waiting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4yYtwspOZ4&feature=kp#)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hash Slinging Slasher on February 25, 2014, 01:48:31 PM
I think I'm going to pick up some new wheels for the spring sometime soon. I'm on 99s right now, but what are peoples opinions on the 101s? Are they better for the streets?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Spitfire4life on February 25, 2014, 05:33:09 PM
I think I'm going to pick up some new wheels for the spring sometime soon. I'm on 99s right now, but what are peoples opinions on the 101s? Are they better for the streets?
Haven't tried the 99's but I'm riding the 101's right now. They super good so far (had them for about 3 months). They are amazing all around, they slide on command and grip when you need it. My only problem is that I was hill bombing and did a powerslide and slipped out backwards and hit my head. They slide a lot! I'll probably get the 99's so I don't slip out anymore. But overall they are the best wheels I have ever ridden.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dillanharp on February 25, 2014, 05:46:27 PM
I think I'm going to pick up some new wheels for the spring sometime soon. I'm on 99s right now, but what are peoples opinions on the 101s? Are they better for the streets?
Haven't tried the 99's but I'm riding the 101's right now. They super good so far (had them for about 3 months). They are amazing all around, they slide on command and grip when you need it. My only problem is that I was hill bombing and did a powerslide and slipped out backwards and hit my head. They slide a lot! I'll probably get the 99's so I don't slip out anymore. But overall they are the best wheels I have ever ridden.
Damn you gonna change your name now or what?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on February 25, 2014, 06:43:54 PM
I think I'm going to pick up some new wheels for the spring sometime soon. I'm on 99s right now, but what are peoples opinions on the 101s? Are they better for the streets?

ive ridden both and i definitely like the 101's better in the streets. theyre a little slick, but its a controlled slide. the 99's can be a bit sticky, especially in the streets. for indoor, or slippery parks the 99 will do best tho. be warned tho, the 101 is comparable to the slide of bones but with better grip, so if ur not tryna slip and slide with ease than get the 99's.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: max power on February 25, 2014, 09:51:46 PM
I think I'm going to pick up some new wheels for the spring sometime soon. I'm on 99s right now, but what are peoples opinions on the 101s? Are they better for the streets?
Haven't tried the 99's but I'm riding the 101's right now. They super good so far (had them for about 3 months). They are amazing all around, they slide on command and grip when you need it. My only problem is that I was hill bombing and did a powerslide and slipped out backwards and hit my head. They slide a lot! I'll probably get the 99's so I don't slip out anymore. But overall they are the best wheels I have ever ridden.
Damn you gonna change your name now or what?
bearings?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Spitfire4life on February 25, 2014, 10:00:21 PM
I think I'm going to pick up some new wheels for the spring sometime soon. I'm on 99s right now, but what are peoples opinions on the 101s? Are they better for the streets?
Haven't tried the 99's but I'm riding the 101's right now. They super good so far (had them for about 3 months). They are amazing all around, they slide on command and grip when you need it. My only problem is that I was hill bombing and did a powerslide and slipped out backwards and hit my head. They slide a lot! I'll probably get the 99's so I don't slip out anymore. But overall they are the best wheels I have ever ridden.
Damn you gonna change your name now or what?
bearings?
nope, wheels. Deffinetly gonna have to change my name haha
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hash Slinging Slasher on February 26, 2014, 06:16:43 PM
I think I'm going to pick up some new wheels for the spring sometime soon. I'm on 99s right now, but what are peoples opinions on the 101s? Are they better for the streets?

ive ridden both and i definitely like the 101's better in the streets. theyre a little slick, but its a controlled slide. the 99's can be a bit sticky, especially in the streets. for indoor, or slippery parks the 99 will do best tho. be warned tho, the 101 is comparable to the slide of bones but with better grip, so if ur not tryna slip and slide with ease than get the 99's.
Cool. Thank you both for the insight. I'm really in to those orange 101s but I don't think I'm good enough or Baker enough to rock them haha.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Spitfireforlife on February 26, 2014, 07:14:00 PM
I think I'm going to pick up some new wheels for the spring sometime soon. I'm on 99s right now, but what are peoples opinions on the 101s? Are they better for the streets?
Haven't tried the 99's but I'm riding the 101's right now. They super good so far (had them for about 3 months). They are amazing all around, they slide on command and grip when you need it. My only problem is that I was hill bombing and did a powerslide and slipped out backwards and hit my head. They slide a lot! I'll probably get the 99's so I don't slip out anymore. But overall they are the best wheels I have ever ridden.
Damn you gonna change your name now or what?
Couldn't figure out how to change my name, so I made a new account! Hey dudes!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: SK8houses on February 26, 2014, 07:17:29 PM
chipped every set i have had of these, they are good though
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: tangar on February 26, 2014, 09:06:31 PM
I think I'm going to pick up some new wheels for the spring sometime soon. I'm on 99s right now, but what are peoples opinions on the 101s? Are they better for the streets?
Haven't tried the 99's but I'm riding the 101's right now. They super good so far (had them for about 3 months). They are amazing all around, they slide on command and grip when you need it. My only problem is that I was hill bombing and did a powerslide and slipped out backwards and hit my head. They slide a lot! I'll probably get the 99's so I don't slip out anymore. But overall they are the best wheels I have ever ridden.
Damn you gonna change your name now or what?
Couldn't figure out how to change my name, so I made a new account! Hey dudes!
+1
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: lenny on February 27, 2014, 07:46:49 AM
I think I'm going to pick up some new wheels for the spring sometime soon. I'm on 99s right now, but what are peoples opinions on the 101s? Are they better for the streets?
Haven't tried the 99's but I'm riding the 101's right now. They super good so far (had them for about 3 months). They are amazing all around, they slide on command and grip when you need it. My only problem is that I was hill bombing and did a powerslide and slipped out backwards and hit my head. They slide a lot! I'll probably get the 99's so I don't slip out anymore. But overall they are the best wheels I have ever ridden.
Damn you gonna change your name now or what?
Couldn't figure out how to change my name, so I made a new account! Hey dudes!
+1
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: art hellman on February 27, 2014, 10:05:21 AM
i have a set of 53mm tablet shape 101 that have been barely skated if anyone is interested.... $20 shipped.  pm me.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on March 06, 2014, 04:23:19 PM
For anyone who hasn't tried a set offering up 15% off our entire site for the pals.
Entire the coupon code SLAPPALS at check out.
http://www.35thavenue.com/shop/Skateboards/Wheels/Spitfire.htm (http://www.35thavenue.com/shop/Skateboards/Wheels/Spitfire.htm)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on March 06, 2014, 07:42:56 PM
Wow cool to see DLX staff bumping this thread everyday.

SPF/STF owns your shit
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: shark tits on March 06, 2014, 07:48:04 PM
Wow cool to see DLX staff bumping this thread everyday.

SPF/STF owns your shit
heh, i'm waiting for rusty to start making a bigger wheel then that's all i'm gonna ride.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Filip on March 07, 2014, 03:17:23 AM
Wow cool to see DLX staff bumping this thread everyday.

SPF/STF owns your shit
heh, i'm waiting for rusty to start making a bigger wheel then that's all i'm gonna ride.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on March 07, 2014, 07:25:49 AM
Wow cool to see DLX staff bumping this thread everyday.

SPF/STF owns your shit

somebody get this dude some F4's so he can SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ThugWaffle on March 07, 2014, 10:11:04 AM
Wow cool to see DLX staff bumping this thread everyday.

SPF/STF owns your shit

somebody get this dude some F4's so he can SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY

He doesn't deserve them. Let him ride those plastic feeling bones wheels for all I care.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: bea! on March 07, 2014, 04:20:52 PM
Hey how are the 99's for park wheels?  i always ride the parkburners but wonder if i could use something a smidge faster. 

a while back i tried to switch to 101's and was sliding all over the place
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on March 07, 2014, 04:46:17 PM
Having ridden parkburners, street burners, classic 99s, hardlines, f4 101/99s, I can say the 99s are the best all around wheel spitfire makes.
They arent soft, super fast grip and the right amount of slide and I've had minimal issues with chipping/flatspots. And if you do deluxe takes care of it instantly.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: tangar on March 07, 2014, 08:46:10 PM
Hey how are the 99's for park wheels?  i always ride the parkburners but wonder if i could use something a smidge faster. 

a while back i tried to switch to 101's and was sliding all over the place
I mostly skate parks and I love my 99s. Good grip, fast, slide when I want em to.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on March 07, 2014, 09:00:13 PM
I've felt no need to skate the 101 F4's after trying out 2 sets of 99s.  No flatspots, no complaints.
I guess if you like a harder wheel, or is more used to a "slippery" wheel, 101s would be good too.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: sweat stains on March 07, 2014, 09:11:14 PM
Been skating the 99s I'm on now for 6 months, and they look like shit, have chips out of them, and are super small but still skate like they're brand new. Best wheels ever.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fulfillthedream on March 08, 2014, 02:05:14 AM
funny how some of you on here skated both prefer the 99s.. had the 99s for 3 months.. set up the 101s for about a month and put my old 99s back on. yeah the 99s are a good all around wheel in my experience.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: micky682 on March 08, 2014, 06:46:03 AM
Does Spitfire make Formula 4s in the SFW shape?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on March 08, 2014, 08:02:35 AM
Quote from: The Nose Face  link=topic=68020.msg2096666#msg2096666 date=1393264457
Are they not going to make the f4's in Full or Tablet shapes anymore - didn't see these styles in the new teal/orange, only classic shape.
See below
Bumping this, anyone know when full shape or SFW formula fours will be around, got a set left but don't wanna burn through them if it'll be a while until new ones are around

Taking longer than expected.
No definite date.

sorry dudes.


Does Spitfire make Formula 4s in the SFW shape?
Read above mickey.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: the_unknown_soldier on March 08, 2014, 10:41:52 AM
I think I got some defective ones. Got the 101's for Christmas and have only skated an indoor park once or twice a week for the past month and a big chunk just came outta them last night. My previous ones ran me from April to this winter, and even then they still had life left.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: wallieD on March 08, 2014, 11:30:05 AM
Does Spitfire make Formula 4s in the SFW shape?
they're working on it. i loved the feel of the sfw, but they didn't hold up well for me. def going to be the next set i buy
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: jonnysheen on March 08, 2014, 02:56:23 PM
flatspotted , i've just flatspotted them  >:(

Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: silkyjohnson on March 08, 2014, 03:18:18 PM
flatspotted , i've just flatspotted them  >:(


Skate through it, it'll even out
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Spitfire4life on March 09, 2014, 10:50:15 AM
99's arrived on Friday, thanks Lenny!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1959552_608052272620966_1040215629_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on March 14, 2014, 09:26:45 PM
Open question, i never skated the street burners when they came out, found a set of SFW streetburners, how do they go comparable too the F4?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Monkey_Mcpott on March 15, 2014, 01:47:11 AM
99's arrived on Friday, thanks Lenny!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1959552_608052272620966_1040215629_n.jpg)

time to change your screen name.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Spitfire4life on March 17, 2014, 09:07:44 PM
99's arrived on Friday, thanks Lenny!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1959552_608052272620966_1040215629_n.jpg)

time to change your screen name.
Been trying. How do you do it?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Randozzi on March 18, 2014, 09:03:46 PM
Changed it for you.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Spitfire4life on March 18, 2014, 09:18:38 PM
Changed it for you.
Thanks dude!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on March 19, 2014, 12:11:59 AM
cant wait to see what happens when you try bones bushings.

bonesbushings4lyfe.

rizerpadz4lyfe.

FILA4life.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on March 19, 2014, 12:15:42 AM
Open question, i never skated the street burners when they came out, found a set of SFW streetburners, how do they go comparable too the F4?

When I first learned how to powerslide it was when the F1's came out.  They flatspotted really easily so I switched to bones.  I'm guessing the formula for F1's has changed over the years but if it's anything close to what they were before, I wouldn't bother.  Plus, they're coming out with SFW F4's anyways, I would just wait
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on March 19, 2014, 12:17:28 AM
Open question, i never skated the street burners when they came out, found a set of SFW streetburners, how do they go comparable too the F4?

When I first learned how to powerslide it was when the F1's came out.  They flatspotted really easily so I switched to bones.  I'm guessing the formula for F1's has changed over the years but if it's anything close to what they were before, I wouldn't bother.  Plus, they're coming out with SFW F4's anyways, I would just wait

Thanks man, i figured id try a set anyway, if they're shitty its no big loss, still going nuts waiting for these F4s though.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: IanBZHD on March 21, 2014, 01:04:53 PM
Been skating the 99's for the winter, mostly indoors. I flatspotted them and took a big chip outta one last weekend. Whats the conditions in which you should contact DLX? The flatspot isnt one of those roll-out flattys, its pretty squared off.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: the_unknown_soldier on March 21, 2014, 09:30:51 PM
Been skating the 99's for the winter, mostly indoors. I flatspotted them and took a big chip outta one last weekend. Whats the conditions in which you should contact DLX? The flatspot isnt one of those roll-out flattys, its pretty squared off.

http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/)

Scroll down near the bottom. My wheel chipped and I wrote to them and they sent me a brand new set that I just set up today. Super helpful.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on March 22, 2014, 03:03:41 PM
Been skating the 99's for the winter, mostly indoors. I flatspotted them and took a big chip outta one last weekend. Whats the conditions in which you should contact DLX? The flatspot isnt one of those roll-out flattys, its pretty squared off.

http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/)

Scroll down near the bottom. My wheel chipped and I wrote to them and they sent me a brand new set that I just set up today. Super helpful.

When it comes to defects, skate companies really come through, especially anything through NHS or DLX.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Morty Seinfeld on March 22, 2014, 05:08:13 PM
Been skating the 99's for the winter, mostly indoors. I flatspotted them and took a big chip outta one last weekend. Whats the conditions in which you should contact DLX? The flatspot isnt one of those roll-out flattys, its pretty squared off.

http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/)

Scroll down near the bottom. My wheel chipped and I wrote to them and they sent me a brand new set that I just set up today. Super helpful.

When it comes to defects, skate companies really come through, especially anything through NHS or DLX.

Never tried DLX for defects, even though I've had a few sets of Thunders break over the years, but I had a delaminated Santa Cruz board once and NHS handled that shit quick.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: art hellman on March 25, 2014, 03:33:00 PM
DLX has the best customer service on defects.  Reed a/k/a Lenny recently helped me out with a defect on a set of Manderson SFWs and had a new set back on my board w/in a week.  Can't be beat...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on March 25, 2014, 03:43:45 PM
Seems like Spitfire still doesn't have the recipe. Maybe by formula 8 or 9 they finally deal with the flatspot issue.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on March 25, 2014, 04:32:52 PM
Seems like Spitfire still doesn't have the recipe. Maybe by formula 8 or 9 they finally deal with the flatspot issue.

hah! I've seen plenty of flatspots on bones stf to know that defects happen to every company.  I still haven't flatspotted my two sets of F4's.  You can stick to your plastic wheels tho T-racer
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Dead Art Collective on March 26, 2014, 12:26:50 AM
Has anyone fully flatspotted a pair for Formula 4s yet?
My old spitfires used to burn our pretty quick so I switched to STF's are the 4's better or just really slick?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on March 26, 2014, 12:31:12 AM
roughly 8 months in, no flatspots whatsoever, and i gave them a pretty hard time.

never switching to anything else again.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on March 26, 2014, 07:06:01 AM
Has anyone fully flatspotted a pair for Formula 4s yet?
My old spitfires used to burn our pretty quick so I switched to STF's are the 4's better or just really slick?
much better
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on March 26, 2014, 07:39:20 AM
Has anyone fully flatspotted a pair for Formula 4s yet?
My old spitfires used to burn our pretty quick so I switched to STF's are the 4's better or just really slick?
I have seen a few sets flat, they aren't impervious to some people. But those guys will flat any wheel made.
You can't compare a classic or f1 urethane to f4's because they feel so different. The f4's definitely do not wear down quickly, and the 99's are the perfect mix of slide and grip imo. I've noticed we sell the 99s over the 101's probably 6 to 1. Having ridden both I could ride either and the difference is not night and day. But on the slicker skateparks here the 101's are a little sketchy. I think they are A better feeling wheel than stf's, not one person I've sold them to over bones has come back disappointed.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Firebert on March 26, 2014, 08:35:51 AM
Has anyone fully flatspotted a pair for Formula 4s yet?
My old spitfires used to burn our pretty quick so I switched to STF's are the 4's better or just really slick?
I have seen a few sets flat, they aren't impervious to some people. But those guys will flat any wheel made.
You can't compare a classic or f1 urethane to f4's because they feel so different. The f4's definitely do not wear down quickly, and the 99's are the perfect mix of slide and grip imo. I've noticed we sell the 99s over the 101's probably 6 to 1. Having ridden both I could ride either and the difference is not night and day. But on the slicker skateparks here the 101's are a little sketchy. I think they are A better feeling wheel than stf's, not one person I've sold them to over bones has come back disappointed.
I flatspotted both the 99s and the 101s, but it wasn't easy. I agree fully with the comparison. They feel very similar, but riding a smooth, dusty park like I do, I need the 99s if I want to haul ass while carving because on the 101s carving up a steep bank might spin you out.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Spitfire4life on March 31, 2014, 05:44:01 PM
Damn, just flat spotted my 99's. Gonna probably get some 55 Cardiel classics to save money.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tuna on April 01, 2014, 01:39:13 AM
doing long power slides at this smooth pebbly ground at a plaza in santa monica on sunday and now i have a bunch of small cut-like incisions on my wheels. still no flatspots though.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Julz on April 01, 2014, 11:20:00 AM
Damn, just flat spotted my 99's. Gonna probably get some 55 Cardiel classics to save money.

So it's back to Bones4life or you're still charmed by the Spitfire marketing schemes?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: wallieD on April 01, 2014, 11:42:28 AM
Damn, just flat spotted my 99's. Gonna probably get some 55 Cardiel classics to save money.
i think you also have a scuff mark on your shoe. better get a new pair asap.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Spitfire4life on April 01, 2014, 12:32:04 PM
Damn, just flat spotted my 99's. Gonna probably get some 55 Cardiel classics to save money.

So it's back to Bones4life or you're still charmed by the Spitfire marketing schemes?
Still sticking with Spitfire. They sent me free wheels, so that's enough to keep me skating Spitfires forever.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Spitfire4life on April 01, 2014, 12:32:47 PM
Damn, just flat spotted my 99's. Gonna probably get some 55 Cardiel classics to save money.
i think you also have a scuff mark on your shoe. better get a new pair asap.
It's just kind of annoying and distracting. I wanted to try a bigger size anyways.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Beer Keg Peg Leg on April 01, 2014, 03:18:48 PM
ive flatspotted like 4 pairs of these things...harder to flatspot than the other wheels but still not impossible...also they seem to wear down slower which is dank
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on April 01, 2014, 03:27:53 PM
Its impossible to trust this company until they have a flatspot guarantee.
 
SF locals make up 75% of this thread

Darkstar or Bones ONLY
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hash Slinging Slasher on April 01, 2014, 04:45:01 PM
Its impossible to trust this company until they have a flatspot guarantee.
 
SF locals make up 75% of this thread

Darkstar or Bones ONLY
Never even been close to SF. These wheels are the truth. Get your plastic Bones shit out of here.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on April 01, 2014, 05:28:43 PM
Its impossible to trust this company until they have a flatspot guarantee.
 
SF locals make up 75% of this thread

Darkstar or Bones ONLY
Never even been close to SF. These wheels are the truth. Get your plastic Bones shit out of here.
Plastic... What do you think wheels are made of dumbass? Oil?

I don't need my wheels to be super hard and loud to enjoy a session, I'd rather powerslide for days with bones.. They can last a full year even through heavy use, something FF can't do.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on April 01, 2014, 06:32:20 PM
Its impossible to trust this company until they have a flatspot guarantee.
 
SF locals make up 75% of this thread

Darkstar or Bones ONLY
Never even been close to SF. These wheels are the truth. Get your plastic Bones shit out of here.
Plastic... What do you think wheels are made of dumbass? Oil?

I don't need my wheels to be super hard and loud to enjoy a session, I'd rather powerslide for days with bones.. They can last a full year even through heavy use, something FF can't do.


darkstar wheels? u fuckin KOOK
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Spitfire4life on April 01, 2014, 06:38:33 PM
Not gonna lie, my Bones would last longer than my FF's. Spits feel better though.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on April 01, 2014, 06:42:30 PM
Its impossible to trust this company until they have a flatspot guarantee.
 
SF locals make up 75% of this thread

Darkstar or Bones ONLY
Never even been close to SF. These wheels are the truth. Get your plastic Bones shit out of here.
Plastic... What do you think wheels are made of dumbass? Oil?

I don't need my wheels to be super hard and loud to enjoy a session, I'd rather powerslide for days with bones.. They can last a full year even through heavy use, something FF can't do.


darkstar wheels? u fuckin KOOK
Darkstar wheels are actually really fucking good, and carry a flatspot guarantee. My only issue with them is they're super round, and they've worked past that
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: bbk on April 02, 2014, 02:17:38 AM
Bones doesn't have a no flatspot guarantee anymore, and I just had a customerf come back whining about flatspotting his SPF's the first day...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Candygirl on April 02, 2014, 06:42:21 AM
I'm skating my formula 4's on a regular basis for the past 6 months.
They were 53mm and might have become 50-51mm now, which is not bad.

They wear down a little quicker than stf's (but only a little) and feel way better.
My next set of wheels will for sure be formula 4 again.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Turtle Boy on April 02, 2014, 07:41:07 AM
I don't get people complaining about Bones feeling like plastic, in case you didn't know, polyurethane is a thermoplastic. So complain all you want about the different feel of Bones or whatever brand, but do not complain about it feeling like plastic, because Spitfire are also made of plastic.
Those kind of comments reminds me of people saying chicken is not meat...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Firebert on April 02, 2014, 09:18:43 AM
I don't get people complaining about Bones feeling like plastic, in case you didn't know, polyurethane is a thermoplastic. So complain all you want about the different feel of Bones or whatever brand, but do not complain about it feeling like plastic, because Spitfire are also made of plastic.
Those kind of comments reminds me of people saying chicken is not meat...
No, those kind of comments are like people who prefer chicken that doesn't taste like shit.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: NowhereInLife on April 02, 2014, 06:43:19 PM
Bones feel more like really hard slidable rubber to me, which brings to mind this "rebound" people mention.  I like that because you seem to lose less speed on imperfect surfaces, like that quarter millimeter of bounce keeps you going.  f4s feel more like plastic to me, I had the 99 classic and 101 tablet.  Both pretty remarkable wheels for their durability but I switched back to stf and gave the 99's to my nephew.  The regular classics feel the best to me, and I always go back to them at some point too.

I think people get caught up in the "f4's are the stf killer" idea, but they are both excellent wheels.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: bbk on April 03, 2014, 11:47:44 AM


I think people get caught up in the "f4's are the stf killer" idea, but they are both excellent wheels.
This, stf's are still reallt good, I'd just rather support Dlx and our dlx-dist over skateone/powell...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ALABAMAMAN on April 03, 2014, 03:12:42 PM
^^
it doesn't matter if stf are good, they look plastic.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: pinche gringo on April 03, 2014, 08:22:59 PM
^ I can't stand wheels that look like plastic.

I finally changed my wheels. The F4's I was previously riding held up great and kept their size well. They softened up a bit over time, which I would expect of any wheel. I'd like to try the 101's. 
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on April 08, 2014, 02:55:17 AM
Shop guys / Lenny, any news on the molds for the wider versions as of yet?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: phatwheelz on April 08, 2014, 10:08:29 AM
word I'm really anxious to get f4 sfw's.  I like the regular sfw's but mine are splitting and cracking on the sides of the wheels.  I've had 4 sets total and this is the second set it's happened to.  Love the way these wheels feel and ride but it's a bit of a bummer.  I have a set of classic formula 4's and they hold up well but I'm so used to the wides.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: max power on April 09, 2014, 07:51:51 PM
how do the mint ones look after being skated? anyone riding them?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Dead Art Collective on April 09, 2014, 09:17:13 PM
Are they bringing back the tablets I haven't seen any since the release
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: LennyDLXSF on April 10, 2014, 08:02:39 AM
We're working on the SFW shape still.

No official date yet, but I promise they are coming soon.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ontheswarm on April 10, 2014, 12:40:10 PM
word I'm really anxious to get f4 sfw's.  I like the regular sfw's but mine are splitting and cracking on the sides of the wheels.  I've had 4 sets total and this is the second set it's happened to.  Love the way these wheels feel and ride but it's a bit of a bummer.  I have a set of classic formula 4's and they hold up well but I'm so used to the wides.
The full shape that they made was pretty much identical. I wish they continued making them though.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on April 10, 2014, 01:25:59 PM
word I'm really anxious to get f4 sfw's.  I like the regular sfw's but mine are splitting and cracking on the sides of the wheels.  I've had 4 sets total and this is the second set it's happened to.  Love the way these wheels feel and ride but it's a bit of a bummer.  I have a set of classic formula 4's and they hold up well but I'm so used to the wides.
The full shape that they made was pretty much identical. I wish they continued making them though.
The sfw shape is a bit wider than the full shape.
(http://www.dlxsf.com/summer12/sf/SPITFIRE/sf-cat-summer12-15.jpg)
(http://www.noteshop.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/580x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/p/spitfire-formula-four-wheels-99-du-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on April 10, 2014, 05:43:02 PM
Cheers Lenny, hope too see them soon, thanks for the info
And yeah SFW is a little wider, and the riding surface is wider too I think
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Julz on April 10, 2014, 10:03:02 PM
We're working on the SFW shape still.

No official date yet, but I promise they are coming soon.

I'm curious, how's the process any different  from the other wheels shapes?? Isn't it as simple as putting ''F4''urethane in the regular SFW molds?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: j_u_i_c_y on April 16, 2014, 02:59:56 AM
been on STFs for years, set up 101 F4s yesterday. feel much better than bones, but somehow took a big chip out of the wheel skating a smooth concrete floor. im guessing i got a dodgy one and not all of them are like that but its pretty annoying
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Filip on April 16, 2014, 05:47:40 AM
Im skating STFs right now, and love em. I cant see myself skating a softer wheel anytime soon, but Id love to skate some Spits. Are the 101 F4 comparable to STFs in any way? Or are they more slippery?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on April 19, 2014, 01:02:27 AM
Just set up my last full shape set, gonna make them last as long as possible, hopefully new fuller shapes are out sooner rather than later, i forgot just how great these wheels feel under my feet
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: tony volume on April 19, 2014, 02:01:06 AM
i just set up the 56mm 101's, so far its been amazing. going so fucking fast! the other day i skated moraga park and berkeley skatepark. got speed wobbles in the moraga bowl. i also have had this set of Super swiss 6 for a few years, and just cleaned em last week. the combo of cleaned bearings/new 101's are amazing.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on April 19, 2014, 11:51:38 AM
Just set up my last full shape set, gonna make them last as long as possible, hopefully new fuller shapes are out sooner rather than later, i forgot just how great these wheels feel under my feet

idk how you even wear those wheels down. 99 full lasts forever
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ontheswarm on April 19, 2014, 01:36:20 PM
word I'm really anxious to get f4 sfw's.  I like the regular sfw's but mine are splitting and cracking on the sides of the wheels.  I've had 4 sets total and this is the second set it's happened to.  Love the way these wheels feel and ride but it's a bit of a bummer.  I have a set of classic formula 4's and they hold up well but I'm so used to the wides.
The full shape that they made was pretty much identical. I wish they continued making them though.
The sfw shape is a bit wider than the full shape.
Yea that's why I said pretty much identical. I just got some new sfws and I am so hyped to skate them. I think I like the way they feel more then the full shape.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on April 19, 2014, 07:44:20 PM
(http://distilleryimage8.s3.amazonaws.com/dec49baac5c511e397f124be058c31b0_8.jpg)

So, i saw these floating around instagram, looks like an SFW too me  ;D
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on April 20, 2014, 08:49:18 PM
(http://distilleryimage8.s3.amazonaws.com/dec49baac5c511e397f124be058c31b0_8.jpg)

So, i saw these floating around instagram, looks like an SFW too me  ;D

oooo I need to replace one of my F4's (They still haven't flatspotted yet, but the pre-release team editions feel a little softer for my preferences).
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: TheRealDeal on April 20, 2014, 09:06:02 PM
I'm on my first set of formula four's and I just can't get into the 99 duro...'that little bit of softness just makes my set up feel soggy and heavy...I'm probably gonna set up these AVE full shape street burner lock-ins that are 100du...man,  I wish I didn't care so much about the nuanced differences of skate product.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: soccer mom on April 20, 2014, 09:19:05 PM
Summer drop please, so I can get more 101 tablets! Best wheel ever for sure.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fulfillthedream on April 21, 2014, 12:59:21 AM
I'm on my first set of formula four's and I just can't get into the 99 duro...'that little bit of softness just makes my set up feel soggy and heavy...I'm probably gonna set up these AVE full shape street burner lock-ins that are 100du...man,  I wish I didn't care so much about the nuanced differences of skate product.

theres a world of a difference between the 99s and 101s.having skated both the 101s are super fucking slick compared to the 99s..
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: micky682 on April 21, 2014, 10:34:34 AM
If I making the switch from Bones STF to possibly Spitfire F4 or SFW, which wheels would feel similar to the STF's?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: filmthis on April 21, 2014, 11:08:48 AM
If I making the switch from Bones STF to possibly Spitfire F4 or SFW, which wheels would feel similar to the STF's?
personally, i have more control with the 101's, but i've only gotten kickdown prototypes that've already been "broken in"..

i had a pair of 99's out of the plastic, and bombed a hill right after setting them up. went to powerslide and it was like ice.


you decide. i'd say 101's are the way to go, but that's just me.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on April 21, 2014, 04:13:05 PM
If I making the switch from Bones STF to possibly Spitfire F4 or SFW, which wheels would feel similar to the STF's?

definitely the 101, the 99's are closer to a grippy wheel
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: hydrant hopper on April 21, 2014, 04:22:11 PM
i had a pair of 99's out of the plastic, and bombed a hill right after setting them up. went to powerslide and it was like ice.

Wouldn't the 101s be even more slippery?  I ride the 99s and they are a really good median between grippy and slippery (more on the slippery side).
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fulfillthedream on April 21, 2014, 09:50:26 PM
i had a pair of 99's out of the plastic, and bombed a hill right after setting them up. went to powerslide and it was like ice.

Wouldn't the 101s be even more slippery?  I ride the 99s and they are a really good median between grippy and slippery (more on the slippery side).

yes the 101s are a lot more slick. the 99s are more grippy in my experience.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on April 22, 2014, 07:39:46 AM
i had a pair of 99's out of the plastic, and bombed a hill right after setting them up. went to powerslide and it was like ice.

Wouldn't the 101s be even more slippery?  I ride the 99s and they are a really good median between grippy and slippery (more on the slippery side).

yea he said he wants a similiar feel to stf's, which would DEF be the 101
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: m477 on April 22, 2014, 11:12:30 AM
i had a pair of 99's out of the plastic, and bombed a hill right after setting them up. went to powerslide and it was like ice.

Wouldn't the 101s be even more slippery?  I ride the 99s and they are a really good median between grippy and slippery (more on the slippery side).

yea he said he wants a similiar feel to stf's, which would DEF be the 101
Agree.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: micky682 on April 22, 2014, 01:24:57 PM
How do the SFWs feel? Never had a pair of Spits and the only shape I've ridden is the bones stf  v2, want to branch out.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on April 22, 2014, 06:50:31 PM
How do the SFWs feel? Never had a pair of Spits and the only shape I've ridden is the bones stf  v2, want to branch out.

if you want a nice wide wheel then give them a shot,  SFWs are the wheel shape i wanted before i even knew i wanted them, a lot of wheel surface thats actually rolling along the ground, when they wear down they get even squarer, never had any problem locking into grinds with them and they still feel pretty light. Gonna grab a set of the grant taylor swirl ones once theyre out and mix and match them with some manderson whites. overall they're my favorite wheel ever  :-*
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Spitfire4life on April 22, 2014, 10:06:55 PM
Got some Bones STF's for my birthday. They feel pretty shitty compared to Spitfire. Gonna ride them out anyways, but I'm looking forward to getting some Classics after that.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on April 24, 2014, 12:10:14 PM
Got some f4 sfw samples today, so excited to set them up.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/photo2-2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/photo1-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on April 24, 2014, 05:54:59 PM
Oh you lucky bastard ;D
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Spitfire4life on April 24, 2014, 06:21:56 PM
I've never had the SFW's, what is it about them that you all love? I'd like to try a pair.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: GoodBurger on April 24, 2014, 07:36:40 PM
i like bones stf's better than the formula fours for street but for park spitfire parkburners all fucking day
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on April 24, 2014, 08:24:53 PM
I've never had the SFW's, what is it about them that you all love? I'd like to try a pair.

nice and wide and stable, all terrain wheel shape. i found it harder to slappy with em tho, but it was a nice change. now i stick with the classics
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Stanley Spadowski on April 24, 2014, 09:44:16 PM
Got some f4 sfw samples today, so excited to set them up.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/photo2-2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/photo1-2.jpg)
I love the SFW shape, it's so good. I can't imagine how great it'd be in the f4 formula.
Any feedback or release date would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: TFUCKINA on April 24, 2014, 09:57:59 PM
Got some f4 sfw samples today, so excited to set them up.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/photo2-2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/photo1-2.jpg)

Far too wide for my taste.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on April 25, 2014, 07:16:11 AM
They are indeed wide, i like them a lot.
These arent marked for a durometer but they slide well and feel like the 99's.
No word on a release date but if samples are out then the release shouldnt be to far out.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Dr Steve Brule on April 25, 2014, 04:34:35 PM
I've been skating classics pretty much exclusively for the last ten years.  So I have to ask, what are the benefits of different shaped wheels?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Willie on April 25, 2014, 05:05:13 PM
I had some wide Bones DTFs that looked like that after they wore down. They sucked for grinds because they ate up a lot of hanger real estate, especially on an 8" truck.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on April 25, 2014, 06:32:21 PM
I've been skating classics pretty much exclusively for the last ten years.  So I have to ask, what are the benefits of different shaped wheels?

Theres no real benefit i would think, personally i just like the feel of more wheel on the actual ground and the wider profile looks/feels more stable than the classic shape too me
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: micky682 on April 25, 2014, 06:53:55 PM
I've been skating classics pretty much exclusively for the last ten years.  So I have to ask, what are the benefits of different shaped wheels?

Theres no real benefit i would think, personally i just like the feel of more wheel on the actual ground and the wider profile looks/feels more stable than the classic shape too me
Do they grind differently?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on April 25, 2014, 07:16:27 PM
I've been skating classics pretty much exclusively for the last ten years.  So I have to ask, what are the benefits of different shaped wheels?

Theres no real benefit i would think, personally i just like the feel of more wheel on the actual ground and the wider profile looks/feels more stable than the classic shape too me
Do they grind differently?

i've never noticed them affect my grinds
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on April 26, 2014, 11:20:37 AM
I had some wide Bones DTFs that looked like that after they wore down. They sucked for grinds because they ate up a lot of hanger real estate, especially on an 8" truck.

word i used to ride sfw's with 149's, i dont think i would ride em with 139s tho
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ontheswarm on April 26, 2014, 12:30:24 PM
I've been skating classics pretty much exclusively for the last ten years.  So I have to ask, what are the benefits of different shaped wheels?

Theres no real benefit i would think, personally i just like the feel of more wheel on the actual ground and the wider profile looks/feels more stable than the classic shape too me
Do they grind differently?

i've never noticed them affect my grinds
In my opinion I have noticed it helps with locking in grind tricks
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: b.v. on April 26, 2014, 01:22:16 PM
Agreed, any wheel with a flat edge locks in way better vs a radius cut that releases from coping,ledges etc.
Most people just like the aesthetic of the sidecut i think, because if you check the actual riding surface they are usually close.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on April 27, 2014, 04:56:08 PM
I'm still waiting for the 99a fulls to come back around - what's going on DLX, everything is taking forever to get to market ;P
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Enjoi San Jose on April 27, 2014, 07:27:21 PM
thinking about getting a set but not sure whether to get the 99a or 101 a duro. is there a big difference between the two? and can i still skate street with the 99s, i dont want a terribly slippery wheel (one of the reasons im ditching stfs) any advice would cool, thanks
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Spitfire4life on April 27, 2014, 08:13:01 PM
thinking about getting a set but not sure whether to get the 99a or 101 a duro. is there a big difference between the two? and can i still skate street with the 99s, i dont want a terribly slippery wheel (one of the reasons im ditching stfs) any advice would cool, thanks
I'd go with the 99's if I were you. I've had both and the 99's seemed to be the best all around. You get a good grip, but still can do powerslides and whatnot. 99's are the best.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: tangar on April 27, 2014, 11:20:20 PM
i havent tried the 101s but i havent had a problem with the 99s skating Roosevelt, Red or Fremont parks. Also skating some street downtown SJ and some other random spots has been fine, good slide and lots of control i love em.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ALABAMAMAN on April 28, 2014, 01:40:50 AM
Got some f4 sfw samples today, so excited to set them up.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/photo2-2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/photo1-2.jpg)
(http://i59.tinypic.com/rbd63b.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: pissedead on April 28, 2014, 05:36:00 PM
 :'(
(http://origincache-frc.fbcdn.net/10299760_1463500543887036_1828013843_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Enjoi San Jose on April 28, 2014, 05:49:55 PM
thanks for the feedback dudes gonna give em a try
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Dr Steve Brule on April 28, 2014, 06:29:44 PM
:'(
flatspot picture

How did you do that?  I'm sure they'll send you a new set
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on April 28, 2014, 06:57:25 PM
That's either a MASSIVE powerslide FS or you did it deliberately.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: skateboardnorth on April 28, 2014, 07:31:42 PM
The board probably got run over by a car or something.  That's way too big of a flatspot.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: m477 on April 28, 2014, 08:27:00 PM
The board probably got run over by a car or something.  That's way too big of a flatspot.

That or a belt sander.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: silkyjohnson on April 28, 2014, 08:45:08 PM
:'(

Bullshit, you looking for a new wheel handout or something?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: sleepypancakes on April 28, 2014, 10:56:19 PM
:'(
(http://origincache-frc.fbcdn.net/10299760_1463500543887036_1828013843_n.jpg)
What did you do? Powerslide a fucking treadmill?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: pissedead on April 28, 2014, 11:24:20 PM
The board probably got run over by a car or something.  That's way too big of a flatspot.

yep
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Wizard Fight on April 29, 2014, 12:00:48 AM
:'(
(http://origincache-frc.fbcdn.net/10299760_1463500543887036_1828013843_n.jpg)
What did you do? Powerslide a fucking treadmill?

(http://theawesomer.com/photos/2013/06/square_skateboard_wheels_t.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: j_u_i_c_y on April 29, 2014, 03:56:29 PM
mine are badly chunked and doesn't look like they're getting replaced... i think its down to Shiner Dist (UK) rather than DLX, but still, probably means i'll be going back to bones which is a shame as i loved the feel.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Spitfire4life on May 04, 2014, 09:24:15 PM
Rode my old setup with the 99's today and I can honestly say that they are the best wheels ever. They felt so much better than the Bones I got for my birthday and they slide just as good. I'm back on those for sure.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on May 26, 2014, 08:43:51 PM
Don't know if Lenny still lurks around but any word on the SFW shape yet, US summer is around the corner, can i get my hopes up that they'll be out soon?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on May 26, 2014, 09:39:51 PM
Don't know if Lenny still lurks around but any word on the SFW shape yet, US summer is around the corner, can i get my hopes up that they'll be out soon?

I'm excited.  I'm finally moving back up to south bay so I'll be making plenty of trips to the city (and DLX).
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: LennyDLXSF on May 27, 2014, 08:05:54 AM
Don't know if Lenny still lurks around but any word on the SFW shape yet, US summer is around the corner, can i get my hopes up that they'll be out soon?

I'm still lurking.

The SFW's are very close to production, I still can't give a release date, but they ARE coming.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Leyzee Emcea on May 27, 2014, 08:14:14 AM
Don't know if Lenny still lurks around but any word on the SFW shape yet, US summer is around the corner, can i get my hopes up that they'll be out soon?

I'm still lurking.

The SFW's are very close to production, I still can't give a release date, but they ARE coming.
Thank. you. 
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on May 27, 2014, 04:07:05 PM
Awesome, thanks again Lenny!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Noble Experiment on May 28, 2014, 11:57:31 AM
Ever since the F4s came out I pretty much just go back and forth between the F4s and STFs ; I'll get STFs, then after they wear out I'll buy F4s, and so on and so forth.
I did however buy a set of 53mm shop wheels on a whim earlier in the month; worst decision ever. They're so sluggish and laggy feeling, if that makes sense, and they almost feel a bit too rubbery. Luckily a friend of mine gave me a set of used F4 101As (54mms but they're more like 51mms now), probably gonna squeeze a few more sessions in with the shop wheels, then maybe hand em down to a homie who's in need of wheels, and then set up the F4s. I'm never making that mistake again.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on June 04, 2014, 06:33:18 PM
I'm still hunting for Fulls....switched over to Autobahn for a while...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: soccer mom on June 18, 2014, 10:59:52 PM
where did the tablets go?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: sufodiv on June 18, 2014, 11:16:51 PM
Got some f4 sfw samples today, so excited to set them up.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/photo2-2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/photo1-2.jpg)
(http://i59.tinypic.com/rbd63b.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on June 18, 2014, 11:23:53 PM
Hopefully formula 5 or 6 gets better, seeing all these mega flatspots. Noone has shit on bones after all these years
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Spitfire4life on June 19, 2014, 12:41:50 PM
Hopefully formula 5 or 6 gets better, seeing all these mega flatspots. Noone has shit on bones after all these years
I flatspoted some Bones STF. Not to the point where you can see it, but you can feel and hear it. Good excuse to retire them and get some SFW's.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on June 19, 2014, 08:41:09 PM
Hopefully formula 5 or 6 gets better, seeing all these mega flatspots. Noone has shit on bones after all these years
I flatspoted some Bones STF. Not to the point where you can see it, but you can feel and hear it. Good excuse to retire them and get some SFW's.
I flatspot bones all the time, but never to the point where they're unrideable. You can roll the flatspots out pretty easy
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Durndle on July 06, 2014, 02:31:15 AM
can somebody explain the difference between 99a vs 101a?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Nacnud on July 06, 2014, 02:47:52 AM
can somebody explain the difference between 99a vs 101a?

about 3 more a's
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: rlang on July 06, 2014, 11:01:45 AM
can somebody explain the difference between 99a vs 101a?

about 3 more a's

2
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Durndle on July 06, 2014, 02:53:29 PM
can somebody explain the difference between 99a vs 101a?

about 3 more a's

2
thank you
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fulfillthedream on July 07, 2014, 01:19:25 AM
can somebody explain the difference between 99a vs 101a?

i skated both. the 99a's are really grippy right when you set em up, don't really need to break em in. after 5 months i noticed small bits of the wheel came out- no difference in how they performed. amazing wheels. the 101a's were super slick at first, once i broke em in they were really well..pretty solid and strong. so basically the difference i noticed was you didn't need to really break in the 99a's
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Carrolls Chesthairs on July 09, 2014, 10:16:53 AM
can somebody explain the difference between 99a vs 101a?

101s were pretty slippy at first.
I've heard 99s are the way to go but I like being able to powerslide at a moments notice.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: N.L. on July 09, 2014, 03:52:11 PM
the 99s powerslide just fine. They feel like how Spitfires should feel like. The F4 99s remind me of the classics back in the 90s when Spitfires were unfuckwithable...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on July 25, 2014, 11:59:24 PM
i like the 101's but i am finding them to be kinda too slidey on certain ground. i had the 99's before in full shape and they were too grippy, but now im wondering if its cus of how wide they were? i dont really wanna go back to streetburners, even though 100 duro is nice, but would it be worth it to try out the 99's in classic?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: @thewilleasley on July 26, 2014, 12:19:30 AM
i like the 101's but i am finding them to be kinda too slidey on certain ground. i had the 99's before in full shape and they were too grippy, but now im wondering if its cus of how wide they were? i dont really wanna go back to streetburners, even though 100 duro is nice, but would it be worth it to try out the 99's in classic?

had the exact same problem when i first tried out the 101's but in my opinion the 99s in the classic shape is like the perfect wheel. they slide well when you want them too but isn't nearly as "slippery" feeling on smoother ground as the 101's were in my experience.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on July 26, 2014, 12:23:04 AM
Hey lenny, i saw on here SFW 4s are gonna be out next month, can you elaborate on a date yet??  :-*
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Slappy_Happy on July 26, 2014, 12:49:41 PM
can you elaborate on a date yet??  :-*

I second this.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: LennyDLXSF on July 29, 2014, 07:53:20 AM
Hey lenny, i saw on here SFW 4s are gonna be out next month, can you elaborate on a date yet??  :-*

Right now we are shooting for mid August.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on July 29, 2014, 03:53:57 PM
Hey lenny, i saw on here SFW 4s are gonna be out next month, can you elaborate on a date yet??  :-*

Right now we are shooting for mid August.

Fuck yeah buddy!, I already know I'm scooping up as many sets as I can. Lenny you're the man!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 4wheels on July 29, 2014, 06:14:02 PM
saw some dude riding around the park with the 99 SFW's. looked pretty good
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: m477 on July 29, 2014, 06:56:41 PM
Are the 101 tablets still available? Can't find them anywhere.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on July 29, 2014, 07:46:53 PM
Are the 101 tablets still available? Can't find them anywhere.

DLX discontinued the F4 tablet for the SFW F4
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Bill on August 04, 2014, 12:35:25 PM
I bought some f4 a couple of days ago and have had quite a few chunks come off. They also are cracking in a few places. I love the way they feel, but I was wondering if this is normal for them. I only skate my local park and I'm not to hard on them. I know this sounds silly but I'm kinda bummed on the quality and don't want to go back to Bones.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Firebert on August 04, 2014, 01:10:25 PM
I bought some f4 a couple of days ago and have had quite a few chunks come off. They also are cracking in a few places. I love the way they feel, but I was wondering if this is normal for them. I only skate my local park and I'm not to hard on them. I know this sounds silly but I'm kinda bummed on the quality and don't want to go back to Bones.
That's not normal, I had a similar problem with one set of the 101 and they were replaced with 99s when I sent them in. Which I was quite pleased with btw, thanks nate!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on August 04, 2014, 01:16:52 PM
skated my 101s on lotsa rough spots, that doesnt seem normal.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: sports on August 04, 2014, 07:19:02 PM
is there another shape for F4 99A wheel for the upcoming drop besides the classic and SFW? a tablet or SFslightlylesswide would be nice, but maybe thats just me...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 144p on August 04, 2014, 08:24:00 PM
Here are the new specs for the updated f4 shapes.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/821f7883-c4c3-4871-af9c-77059516e995.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on August 04, 2014, 09:12:07 PM
Good man, really appreciate that ;D
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dillanharp on August 04, 2014, 09:15:22 PM
is there another shape for F4 99A wheel for the upcoming drop besides the classic and SFW? a tablet or SFslightlylesswide would be nice, but maybe thats just me...
Classics aren't exactly narrow.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on August 04, 2014, 09:22:43 PM
is there another shape for F4 99A wheel for the upcoming drop besides the classic and SFW? a tablet or SFslightlylesswide would be nice, but maybe thats just me...

Near as i can tell, the conical standard would be the middle ground and the conical full is the SFW
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fulfillthedream on August 05, 2014, 05:38:41 AM
i love the spitfire classic shape..how is the shift from those to the conical shape? i gotta new set of the 99f4's but am curious to try conical shapes
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on August 05, 2014, 05:44:22 AM
i love the spitfire classic shape..how is the shift from those to the conical shape? i gotta new set of the 99f4's but am curious to try conical shapes

I tried a set of parkburners on someone elses board the other day and they felt way too narrow now ive been on conicals for ages, locking into things seemed easier with the squarer wheels, i can't wait too see how these new ones work out
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fulfillthedream on August 05, 2014, 05:49:53 AM
i love the spitfire classic shape..how is the shift from those to the conical shape? i gotta new set of the 99f4's but am curious to try conical shapes

I tried a set of parkburners on someone elses board the other day and they felt way too narrow now ive been on conicals for ages, locking into things seemed easier with the squarer wheels, i can't wait too see how these new ones work out

sick! thanks for the feedback.. does spitfire still do the "lock in" wheels- which are like the conical but only on one side?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on August 05, 2014, 06:04:09 AM
i love the spitfire classic shape..how is the shift from those to the conical shape? i gotta new set of the 99f4's but am curious to try conical shapes

I tried a set of parkburners on someone elses board the other day and they felt way too narrow now ive been on conicals for ages, locking into things seemed easier with the squarer wheels, i can't wait too see how these new ones work out

sick! thanks for the feedback.. does spitfire still do the "lock in" wheels- which are like the conical but only on one side?

i think AVE has some signature ones out now
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: timv on August 05, 2014, 11:23:52 AM
Both sets of mine (51mm and 53mm, both 99's) did that to me, I sent the 53's in for warranty but haven't heard back yet, only been 5 or so days.
I'm riding stf's right now and they show no signs of this.
Have a set of wreck's to try next.
I bought some f4 a couple of days ago and have had quite a few chunks come off. They also are cracking in a few places. I love the way they feel, but I was wondering if this is normal for them. I only skate my local park and I'm not to hard on them. I know this sounds silly but I'm kinda bummed on the quality and don't want to go back to Bones.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Bill on August 05, 2014, 02:10:11 PM
I have to admit they slide extremely well and I can't flat spot them. Since they started to chip my friends and I have purposefully tried to flat spot them with no damage whatsoever. I'm sure Deluxe will work out any kinks with the chipping problem over time. If it cost me a little extra money for new wheels then it is worth it. I was riding my friends board with Bones Spf and they didn't feel good at all. I love to be able to do quick power slides without to much effort. The reason I started riding Bones was that I started to skate parks mostly and the concrete was killing my wheels. Also I think as I get older I dwell to much on gear and start to notice things I wouldn't have when I was younger. I skated so much that my stuff would wear out before I could notice any imperfections. It seems now I'm looking for a skateboard product equivalent of the fountain of youth. If I find that concave, wheel, or shape I will get my old tricks back! Thanks for your feedback and have a great day everybody!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: sports on August 05, 2014, 02:22:37 PM
Here are the new specs for the updated f4 shapes.

nice, thanks!

looks like conical 99 will be purrrrrfect
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: timv on August 05, 2014, 02:25:45 PM
Coincidence or not I received an email that they are shipping my replacement set about 15 minutes after I posted here!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 144p on August 05, 2014, 02:46:33 PM
Coincidence or not I received an email that they are shipping my replacement set about 15 minutes after I posted here!
Yup, as expected.
The best dudes.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: epiclystellar on August 05, 2014, 04:19:04 PM
Here are the new specs for the updated f4 shapes.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/821f7883-c4c3-4871-af9c-77059516e995.jpg)
Anybody know the release date on the conicals?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on August 05, 2014, 04:35:40 PM
LennyDLX said mid august
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Toadfish Rebecchi on August 05, 2014, 05:02:24 PM
the 99s powerslide just fine. They feel like how Spitfires should feel like. The F4 99s remind me of the classics back in the 90s when Spitfires were unfuckwithable...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on August 05, 2014, 05:42:43 PM
Mmmm conical or conical full....
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Willie on August 05, 2014, 05:53:50 PM
Now I don't know if I want Conicals or the 55.5mm "Underground" wheels...


http://www.spitfirewheels.com/keepingtheundergroundlit/ (http://www.spitfirewheels.com/keepingtheundergroundlit/)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on August 05, 2014, 08:40:59 PM
Also I think as I get older I dwell to much on gear and start to notice things I wouldn't have when I was younger. I skated so much that my stuff would wear out before I could notice any imperfections. It seems now I'm looking for a skateboard product equivalent of the fountain of youth. If I find that concave, wheel, or shape I will get my old tricks back! Thanks for your feedback and have a great day everybody!

I, too, am looking for the holy grail ;) Seriously, I'm the exact same way and I'm VERY close.

8.5"x32.5" + 14.75/15" WB, Fat nose and tail (like Anti Hero shapes but not anti hero dimensions) - Anyone give me a brand like that that isn't elephant?
Theeves for street ACEs for bowls
Spit F4s - classics for now but I think that conical my be the clincher - I've always hated the STF feel and autobahns don't slide like the F4s.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Spitfire4life on August 06, 2014, 05:10:36 PM
Also I think as I get older I dwell to much on gear and start to notice things I wouldn't have when I was younger. I skated so much that my stuff would wear out before I could notice any imperfections. It seems now I'm looking for a skateboard product equivalent of the fountain of youth. If I find that concave, wheel, or shape I will get my old tricks back! Thanks for your feedback and have a great day everybody!

I, too, am looking for the holy grail ;) Seriously, I'm the exact same way and I'm VERY close.

8.5"x32.5" + 14.75/15" WB, Fat nose and tail (like Anti Hero shapes but not anti hero dimensions) - Anyone give me a brand like that that isn't elephant?
Theeves for street ACEs for bowls
Spit F4s - classics for now but I think that conical my be the clincher - I've always hated the STF feel and autobahns don't slide like the F4s.
http://www.skatewarehouse.com/Skate_Warehouse_Blank_V-Natural_Deck/descpage-SWNHDK.html (http://www.skatewarehouse.com/Skate_Warehouse_Blank_V-Natural_Deck/descpage-SWNHDK.html)
http://www.warehouseskateboards.com/enjoi-resin-7-whitey-panda-skateboard-deck-8.5x32.5 (http://www.warehouseskateboards.com/enjoi-resin-7-whitey-panda-skateboard-deck-8.5x32.5)
http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=47719 (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=47719)
http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=46766 (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=46766)

Not sure on the wheelbases or shapes, but the rest of the dimensions are there.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 144p on August 06, 2014, 06:22:45 PM
Here you go, jake johnson 8.5 x 32.75 w/ a 15 in wb
http://www.35thavenue.com/shop/Skateboards/Decks/AlienWorkshop/p/Alien-Workshop-Johnson-Sacred-Geometry-85-x-3275-x3618480.htm (http://www.35thavenue.com/shop/Skateboards/Decks/AlienWorkshop/p/Alien-Workshop-Johnson-Sacred-Geometry-85-x-3275-x3618480.htm)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: mex.ceferino on August 13, 2014, 07:06:51 PM
F4's 5 months of use
once 54mm classics 101 duro, now they're 40 something and tablets
never had a problem and still roll smooth
f4's rule
(http://i57.tinypic.com/34y8igg.jpg)
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2vmisky.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: bea! on August 13, 2014, 07:55:10 PM
Also I think as I get older I dwell to much on gear and start to notice things I wouldn't have when I was younger. I skated so much that my stuff would wear out before I could notice any imperfections. It seems now I'm looking for a skateboard product equivalent of the fountain of youth. If I find that concave, wheel, or shape I will get my old tricks back! Thanks for your feedback and have a great day everybody!

I, too, am looking for the holy grail ;) Seriously, I'm the exact same way and I'm VERY close.

8.5"x32.5" + 14.75/15" WB, Fat nose and tail (like Anti Hero shapes but not anti hero dimensions) - Anyone give me a brand like that that isn't elephant?
Theeves for street ACEs for bowls
Spit F4s - classics for now but I think that conical my be the clincher - I've always hated the STF feel and autobahns don't slide like the F4s.

not quite to the specific dimensions, but Anti-Hero (and real, krooked) have an 8.43 with a 32.57 length and a 14.75 wheelbase.  It's pretty much the only board I can ride at this point, everything seems tiny in comparison.  the 0.07 is not noticable
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on August 15, 2014, 01:05:36 PM
Also I think as I get older I dwell to much on gear and start to notice things I wouldn't have when I was younger. I skated so much that my stuff would wear out before I could notice any imperfections. It seems now I'm looking for a skateboard product equivalent of the fountain of youth. If I find that concave, wheel, or shape I will get my old tricks back! Thanks for your feedback and have a great day everybody!

I, too, am looking for the holy grail ;) Seriously, I'm the exact same way and I'm VERY close.

8.5"x32.5" + 14.75/15" WB, Fat nose and tail (like Anti Hero shapes but not anti hero dimensions) - Anyone give me a brand like that that isn't elephant?
Theeves for street ACEs for bowls
Spit F4s - classics for now but I think that conical my be the clincher - I've always hated the STF feel and autobahns don't slide like the F4s.

not quite to the specific dimensions, but Anti-Hero (and real, krooked) have an 8.43 with a 32.57 length and a 14.75 wheelbase.  It's pretty much the only board I can ride at this point, everything seems tiny in comparison.  the 0.07 is not noticable

Thanks for the tip! AH have my favorite shapes, I'll have to be on the lookout for one of these!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dillanharp on August 15, 2014, 02:07:35 PM
It's mid august, the ad is in thrasher, where they at?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on August 15, 2014, 05:06:16 PM
It's mid august, the ad is in thrasher, where they at?

Saw them on a few shops instagrams. they're out
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: bea! on August 16, 2014, 04:02:25 PM
Also I think as I get older I dwell to much on gear and start to notice things I wouldn't have when I was younger. I skated so much that my stuff would wear out before I could notice any imperfections. It seems now I'm looking for a skateboard product equivalent of the fountain of youth. If I find that concave, wheel, or shape I will get my old tricks back! Thanks for your feedback and have a great day everybody!

I, too, am looking for the holy grail ;) Seriously, I'm the exact same way and I'm VERY close.

8.5"x32.5" + 14.75/15" WB, Fat nose and tail (like Anti Hero shapes but not anti hero dimensions) - Anyone give me a brand like that that isn't elephant?
Theeves for street ACEs for bowls
Spit F4s - classics for now but I think that conical my be the clincher - I've always hated the STF feel and autobahns don't slide like the F4s.

not quite to the specific dimensions, but Anti-Hero (and real, krooked) have an 8.43 with a 32.57 length and a 14.75 wheelbase.  It's pretty much the only board I can ride at this point, everything seems tiny in comparison.  the 0.07 is not noticable

Thanks for the tip! AH have my favorite shapes, I'll have to be on the lookout for one of these!


you also might dig the Anti-Hero 8.62, which has the same length/wheelbase as the 8.43.  i just picked one up today
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on August 18, 2014, 12:38:25 PM
Socal has some 56mm 99a conicals
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: janky858 on August 22, 2014, 11:52:44 PM
BEST WHEEL OUT
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 360 frip on August 23, 2014, 09:08:53 AM
Finally got a set.

Sorry, I think bones are better...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Schismatic on August 23, 2014, 12:54:38 PM
Also I think as I get older I dwell to much on gear and start to notice things I wouldn't have when I was younger. I skated so much that my stuff would wear out before I could notice any imperfections. It seems now I'm looking for a skateboard product equivalent of the fountain of youth. If I find that concave, wheel, or shape I will get my old tricks back! Thanks for your feedback and have a great day everybody!

I, too, am looking for the holy grail ;) Seriously, I'm the exact same way and I'm VERY close.

8.5"x32.5" + 14.75/15" WB, Fat nose and tail (like Anti Hero shapes but not anti hero dimensions) - Anyone give me a brand like that that isn't elephant?

Theeves for street ACEs for bowls
Spit F4s - classics for now but I think that conical my be the clincher - I've always hated the STF feel and autobahns don't slide like the F4s.
not quite to the specific dimensions, but Anti-Hero (and real, krooked) have an 8.43 with a 32.57 length and a 14.75 wheelbase.  It's pretty much the only board I can ride at this point, everything seems tiny in comparison.  the 0.07 is not noticable
Thanks for the tip! AH have my favorite shapes, I'll have to be on the lookout for one of these!

Xen, maybe check out Entropy. I just posted my latest in the set-up thread (page 355, link below) if you wanna look at that as an example. Sounds like you're looking for something close to my shape but with a longer wheelbase. Call Entropy sometime and tell them what you're looking for (don't email, actually call the contact # on their page, also linked below), I can almost guarantee they can help you out.

They're solid, USA pressed by a well known and respected woodshop, they'll work to get you exactly what you want, and on top of it you'd be supporting an active and devoted small brand.

http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=10804.10620 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=10804.10620)

https://shop.entropyskateboards.com/contactus.sc (https://shop.entropyskateboards.com/contactus.sc)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: m477 on August 23, 2014, 10:23:50 PM
Are the 101 tablets still available? Can't find them anywhere.

DLX discontinued the F4 tablet for the SFW F4

Here are the new specs for the updated f4 shapes.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/821f7883-c4c3-4871-af9c-77059516e995.jpg)

A bit bummed on the loss of the tablet but glad they still offer a 101 f4 with a wide riding surface. I'm riding the tablet 53 but they're almost a year old now and need replacing.   I thought the 101 tablet 53 mm was the perfect wheel but  now it looks like I'll have to try the 101 54 full conical.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: TFUCKINA on August 24, 2014, 09:48:22 PM
spitfire suks great marketing tho

I think you meant to say bones.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on August 25, 2014, 05:42:28 AM
wow man you should try some stf's
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: ALABAMAMAN on August 25, 2014, 09:06:30 AM
this was pretty sick
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqLwyqjCM4I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqLwyqjCM4I#)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dillanharp on August 28, 2014, 01:19:05 PM
Fuck it, I'm tired of waiting for the conicals. Going to just pick up some OJ's.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: LennyDLXSF on August 28, 2014, 01:39:40 PM
Fuck it, I'm tired of waiting for the conicals. Going to just pick up some OJ's.

They are out right now!

Tell your local shop to order some!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dillanharp on August 28, 2014, 02:06:12 PM
Fuck it, I'm tired of waiting for the conicals. Going to just pick up some OJ's.

They are out right now!

Tell your local shop to order some!
I just called both of my locals, one didn't know they existed, the other said he just gets whatever you guys send. Do you know if the DLX store has any? I'll drive up there tomorrow morning if they do.

Nevermind, I called, they're out of 101s.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 144p on August 28, 2014, 06:09:16 PM
What size did you want?
Have 56 101s coming.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on August 28, 2014, 09:26:54 PM
29 pages

many negative reviews

no 20 page bones thread

because they work better
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dillanharp on August 28, 2014, 09:42:50 PM
What size did you want?
Have 56 101s coming.
I'm looking for 52s. I don't really care though, I'll go up or down a mm. 56 is a little large thanks though.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Spitfire4life on August 29, 2014, 10:11:36 AM
29 pages

many a few negative reviews

no 20 page bones thread

because they work better Because nobody here likes Bones
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on August 29, 2014, 11:12:43 AM
tracer post
a quoted tracer post

no need for a quoted tracer post

because i should see it Because tracer should be on every ignore list
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on August 29, 2014, 07:57:05 PM
29 pages

many a few negative reviews

no 20 page bones thread

because they work better Because nobody here likes Bones
Dude you gotta understand, it's pretty hilarious a 29 page thread about wheels. Are these guys on the take or what? Someone always bumps this thread probably from SF or called Spitfire for lyfe

Bones are fine, whats your problem with em? Seriously I want an answer
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dillanharp on August 29, 2014, 08:49:29 PM
I'm sure they're fine, everyone likes different shit. I skated a set of STF's about a year ago and I just didn't like them. I gave them a solid month, during which I was skating and taking public transit everywhere. They felt like I was skating rocks. I didn't like the way they slid. They were loud as fuck. Every time I hit a sidewalk crack I could feel it in my teeth. When I started skating in the early-mid 90s, anything Powell or Bones were considered lame as fuck amongst my peers, so it took literally 20 years before I even skated a set of reds.

Spitfire's feel right. Classics or big heads for 20 years will do that.

I can't believe I seriously answered Tracer.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: N.L. on August 29, 2014, 09:04:09 PM
I'm a big fan of Bones but here's the thing. SPFs are great in smooth parks but feel like shit on the streets. STFs are amazing wheels but can be a bit too slick in smooth parks and only go up to 55mm.

Spitfire F4s 99a are just fucking great all rounders and just 'feel' better. For me its all about the 'slip to grip' ratio and 'rebound.' Spitfire nailed it with these wheels. I'm not from SF or on the take. I'm an old bastard who rode Spitfires all through the 90s and reluctantly stopped when I felt the quality dropped in the 2000s. Now they're back on point with the F4s.

Really looking forward to trying some full conicals in the 100a.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on August 29, 2014, 09:11:35 PM
I'm a big fan of Bones but here's the thing. SPFs are great in smooth parks but feel like shit on the streets. STFs are amazing wheels but can be a bit too slick in smooth parks and only go up to 55mm.

Spitfire F4s 99a are just fucking great all rounders and just 'feel' better. For me its all about the 'slip to grip' ratio and 'rebound.' Spitfire nailed it with these wheels. I'm not from SF or on the take. I'm an old bastard who rode Spitfires all through the 90s and reluctantly stopped when I felt the quality dropped in the 2000s. Now they're back on point with the F4s.

Really looking forward to trying some full conicals in the 100a.

This!

STFs have never felt right to me (I'm a spit classics fan from waaaaaaaaaaaaay back, as in launch) and have tried a number of times to ride them out/commit to them and couldn't do it. I love the way STFs feel in bowls but prefer f4s over stfs. Both are great wheels, do the same thing and support great skaters. Pick what feels good. BOTH wheels suck ass on rough roads so I'm riding neither right now.

I'm wanting the Conicals in 55 as I've been eyeing the V5s in 55mm. I love conical/sidecut shapes. Hurry up DLX (btw socal needs help with proper naming conventions and sizing it seems as they have 56mm 'conicals'.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on August 30, 2014, 06:09:09 AM
someone whos opinion i trust (who also has run alot of stfs) told me spits are better for him and that they don't flat spot. So my negative comments i posted are based on 15 year old expieriences so i'll remove em.  But i'll stick with bones cause i love how predictably slick they are. (dont like my wheels to really 'grip' ever)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on August 30, 2014, 01:58:17 PM
I'm a big fan of Bones but here's the thing. SPFs are great in smooth parks but feel like shit on the streets. STFs are amazing wheels but can be a bit too slick in smooth parks and only go up to 55mm.

Spitfire F4s 99a are just fucking great all rounders and just 'feel' better. For me its all about the 'slip to grip' ratio and 'rebound.' Spitfire nailed it with these wheels. I'm not from SF or on the take. I'm an old bastard who rode Spitfires all through the 90s and reluctantly stopped when I felt the quality dropped in the 2000s. Now they're back on point with the F4s.

Really looking forward to trying some full conicals in the 100a.
You can tell spitfire is a scam becuase they use words like DURO, DUAL DUROMETER, and stupid letters and numbers to describe their wheels.

Bones just produce and call it like it is, a street wheel and a park wheel. If you ride 55+ then you aren't skating much street anyways
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on August 30, 2014, 03:36:14 PM
thats a rad post strait up
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dillanharp on August 30, 2014, 03:50:49 PM

You can tell spitfire is a scam becuase they use words like DURO, DUAL DUROMETER, and stupid letters and numbers to describe their wheels.

Bones just produce and call it like it is, a street wheel and a park wheel. If you ride 55+ then you aren't skating much street anyways
EVERY FUCKING WHEEL COMPANY DOES THIS, INCLUDING BONES.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: N.L. on August 30, 2014, 06:48:40 PM
I'm a big fan of Bones but here's the thing. SPFs are great in smooth parks but feel like shit on the streets. STFs are amazing wheels but can be a bit too slick in smooth parks and only go up to 55mm.

Spitfire F4s 99a are just fucking great all rounders and just 'feel' better. For me its all about the 'slip to grip' ratio and 'rebound.' Spitfire nailed it with these wheels. I'm not from SF or on the take. I'm an old bastard who rode Spitfires all through the 90s and reluctantly stopped when I felt the quality dropped in the 2000s. Now they're back on point with the F4s.

Really looking forward to trying some full conicals in the 100a.
You can tell spitfire is a scam becuase they use words like DURO, DUAL DUROMETER, and stupid letters and numbers to describe their wheels.

Bones just produce and call it like it is, a street wheel and a park wheel. If you ride 55+ then you aren't skating much street anyways

Yeah, perhaps a different type of 'street' to the likes of a cunt like yourself?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on August 30, 2014, 07:16:19 PM
I'm a big fan of Bones but here's the thing. SPFs are great in smooth parks but feel like shit on the streets. STFs are amazing wheels but can be a bit too slick in smooth parks and only go up to 55mm.

Spitfire F4s 99a are just fucking great all rounders and just 'feel' better. For me its all about the 'slip to grip' ratio and 'rebound.' Spitfire nailed it with these wheels. I'm not from SF or on the take. I'm an old bastard who rode Spitfires all through the 90s and reluctantly stopped when I felt the quality dropped in the 2000s. Now they're back on point with the F4s.

Really looking forward to trying some full conicals in the 100a.
You can tell spitfire is a scam becuase they use words like DURO, DUAL DUROMETER, and stupid letters and numbers to describe their wheels.

Bones just produce and call it like it is, a street wheel and a park wheel. If you ride 55+ then you aren't skating much street anyways

Yeah, perhaps a different type of 'street' to the likes of a cunt like yourself?
Get that shit checked out bro.

STF has 5 DIFFERENT sizes, Spitfire has 2 if you're lucky. Get with the times bro Spitfire is a shit company with no flatspot guarantees
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on August 31, 2014, 01:51:07 AM
http://www.dlxsf.com/fall14/sf/ (http://www.dlxsf.com/fall14/sf/)

Going by this there's four shapes classic/classic full/ conical/ conical full
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: N.L. on August 31, 2014, 09:00:32 AM
I'm a big fan of Bones but here's the thing. SPFs are great in smooth parks but feel like shit on the streets. STFs are amazing wheels but can be a bit too slick in smooth parks and only go up to 55mm.

Spitfire F4s 99a are just fucking great all rounders and just 'feel' better. For me its all about the 'slip to grip' ratio and 'rebound.' Spitfire nailed it with these wheels. I'm not from SF or on the take. I'm an old bastard who rode Spitfires all through the 90s and reluctantly stopped when I felt the quality dropped in the 2000s. Now they're back on point with the F4s.

Really looking forward to trying some full conicals in the 100a.
You can tell spitfire is a scam becuase they use words like DURO, DUAL DUROMETER, and stupid letters and numbers to describe their wheels.

Bones just produce and call it like it is, a street wheel and a park wheel. If you ride 55+ then you aren't skating much street anyways

Yeah, perhaps a different type of 'street' to the likes of a cunt like yourself?
Get that shit checked out bro.

STF has 5 DIFFERENT sizes, Spitfire has 2 if you're lucky. Get with the times bro Spitfire is a shit company with no flatspot guarantees

Been riding STFs for at least the last 5 years. Now, I'm back on Sptifires because I like F4s better... More size variety that Bones and about the same shape variety. Let's argue some more. How about ACE vs Indy? that seems to rattle some cages....
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on August 31, 2014, 09:05:06 AM
I think the ace thread is probably about that already.  I guess ace have worked out some of the original problems they had.  Mini logo trucks are out and they make a 8.75 i'd like to try.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: johnes on September 02, 2014, 07:43:32 PM
After flatspotting the 101s I decided to try the 99's and sadly I got a flat spot on those even quicker.  :-\
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: N.L. on September 03, 2014, 07:46:08 AM
that's a bummer. send them back. i've been trying to flat spot my 99s just to see how much they can take.  can't do it. i've managed to flatspot all other spits and stfs and spfs. once you flat spot spfs its not going away others you can often wear out...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 144p on September 03, 2014, 12:07:10 PM
For anyone who was looking for Conical/conical full,classic full in 99a, we got a few sizes in.
Always load people up with stickers and anything else we have.
http://www.35thavenue.com/shop/Skateboards/Wheels/Spitfire.htm (http://www.35thavenue.com/shop/Skateboards/Wheels/Spitfire.htm)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: HASHTAG on September 03, 2014, 12:15:50 PM
Trying to flatspot my 99A's, not possible. They'll just get smaller with time, but no flatspots as of right now
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dlrmtrggr on September 03, 2014, 01:36:35 PM

I bought some f4 a couple of days ago and have had quite a few chunks come off. They also are cracking in a few places. I love the way they feel, but I was wondering if this is normal for them. I only skate my local park and I'm not to hard on them. I know this sounds silly but I'm kinda bummed on the quality and don't want to go back to Bones.
Not normal at all! I skate the 101duro 52mm classic shape f4s, and my 3 month old set has seen some rough concrete and have one tiny chip from bombing a hill into a gravel alleyway.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on September 03, 2014, 10:33:21 PM

I'm looking for 52s.

52 101's http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=49280 (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=49280)

You've probably found some already, but just in case.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Candygirl on September 04, 2014, 07:34:08 AM
F4 101 53mm = best wheel ever.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: tangar on September 10, 2014, 12:18:31 AM
Skated my 52 101s a couple times and I love them so far.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on September 10, 2014, 12:19:49 AM
just ordered a couple sets of 53 99d conical fulls, cant wait too try them  ;D
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: pinche gringo on September 12, 2014, 12:12:45 AM
I put on a new set of the 99a classic shape 52mm F4's and I'm so stoked to go back to them after the MAnderson stf's. Powerslides are epic.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: pile on September 13, 2014, 05:41:36 PM
just ordered a couple sets of 53 99d conical fulls, cant wait too try them  ;D

where'd you find 53's?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on September 13, 2014, 06:06:18 PM
just ordered a couple sets of 53 99d conical fulls, cant wait too try them  ;D

where'd you find 53's?

Skate warehouse, they've got them all
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: raiders are life on September 16, 2014, 10:06:56 PM
F4 53mm 99a is without a doubt the best wheel i have ever rode, the control you have with these wheels is crazy! On side note if you are into cored wheels then the F1 Emburns are dope, im currently riding a pair and they haven't let me down yet.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 360 frip on September 16, 2014, 11:46:50 PM
I just ditched my new F4s to return to Bones.

They're hard but the compound isn't as good.

Not enough slide in them.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: wallieD on September 17, 2014, 06:35:34 PM
I just ditched my new F4s to return to Bones.

They're hard but the compound isn't as good.

Not enough slide in them.
daYyuuMmm wasn't your rep 8 yesterday? and look at it now. slap loVes the f4's!!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 360 frip on September 18, 2014, 05:41:27 AM
I just ditched my new F4s to return to Bones.

They're hard but the compound isn't as good.

Not enough slide in them.
daYyuuMmm wasn't your rep 8 yesterday? and look at it now. slap loVes the f4's!!

Nope, it has been shit for ages.

I love Deluxe and think they're the best distribution/company there is.

I ride their boards and trucks, but I think Bones wheels and bearings are a league apart.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: skate on September 23, 2014, 06:40:57 PM
I got some 99s "Classic Full" shape. Are they any different from just the Classics?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on September 23, 2014, 06:43:19 PM
I got some 99s "Classic Full" shape. Are they any different from just the Classics?

as the name suggests its a fuller shape, more riding surface
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: skate on September 23, 2014, 06:48:05 PM
I got some 99s "Classic Full" shape. Are they any different from just the Classics?

as the name suggests its a fuller shape, more riding surface

hmm, the riding surface seems about the same as Classics to me.. I guess it's a very small difference. Cheers
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Filip on September 24, 2014, 01:31:36 AM
Im a die-hard STFs fan, are the 101 F4s similar to them? I would love to support Spitfire for a change, but their wheels never worked for me in the past..
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 144p on September 24, 2014, 07:33:53 AM
Im a die-hard STFs fan, are the 101 F4s similar to them? I would love to support Spitfire for a change, but their wheels never worked for me in the past..
I think if you read back over the 28 page topic you will have some insight into the feel.
In A nut shell, the 101s feel more like a bones spf in hardness but slide a little less than stfs.
Almost in between the two.
They do use very different materials to make their wheels.
So depending on your preference the feel varies.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: art hellman on September 24, 2014, 07:41:12 AM
the conical full 99a are everything I've been waiting for... sooooooo good.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 360 frip on September 24, 2014, 07:57:38 AM
Im a die-hard STFs fan, are the 101 F4s similar to them? I would love to support Spitfire for a change, but their wheels never worked for me in the past..

Depends how hooked you are. I've become a bit set in my ways and just enjoy the feel of Bones.

I'd say they grip a fair bit more than the STF wheel.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: max power on September 24, 2014, 08:16:19 AM
just set up some 52mm 101 classic full's. cant wait to skate them.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: LennyDLXSF on September 24, 2014, 08:23:51 AM
I got some 99s "Classic Full" shape. Are they any different from just the Classics?

as the name suggests its a fuller shape, more riding surface

hmm, the riding surface seems about the same as Classics to me.. I guess it's a very small difference. Cheers

Classic Full's are a little bit wider, just like the Bigheads in the classic formula.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: skate on September 24, 2014, 06:48:10 PM
I got some 99s "Classic Full" shape. Are they any different from just the Classics?

as the name suggests its a fuller shape, more riding surface

hmm, the riding surface seems about the same as Classics to me.. I guess it's a very small difference. Cheers

Classic Full's are a little bit wider, just like the Bigheads in the classic formula.

I see.. I never knew the bigheads were a little wider than the classics.
I skated my F4s today and they feel amazing. Def worth the extra bucks
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Noble Experiment on September 28, 2014, 01:57:09 PM
My last two sets of wheels have been local shop wheels (terrible, just terrible. I won't go into detail, but they were so bad) and some Wrecks (way too difficult to get a good slide or a good revert on them for me. You gotta put in too much work to make the slide work. Honestly if they fixed that problem they would probably be one of the best wheels on the market). I managed to get both for free or for super cheap, so I just skated those for the past couple months. I finally decided to go back to F4 101a because I've had it with not sliding well. Bought a set earlier, put them on, and now I'm kicking myself for not going back sooner. Put them on and had a quick lil sesh with them right off the bat, and it honestly felt like I was walking out of a dark room I had been in for two months. I'm not gonna be switching wheel brands for a while. And these will probably last me til next year anyways, so I'll be good regardless.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on September 28, 2014, 02:01:51 PM
Wreck has managed to create a super hard, super smooth wheel that doesn't slide for shit. It's a beautiful thing
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on September 29, 2014, 12:42:34 PM
Wreck has managed to create a super hard, super smooth wheel that doesn't slide for shit. It's a beautiful thing

I just swapped out my set yesterday (back to F4s); I don't disagree with that statement.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Noble Experiment on September 29, 2014, 01:22:19 PM
Like I said, if they just find a way to make them slide better they would be great wheels. Everything else about them aren't that bad at all. They kind of remind me of an STF with the feel of the ride they give, just an overall really hard feel, minus the slide factor.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on September 29, 2014, 04:55:29 PM
After riding the wrecks commuting, and sliding them to stop (which takes serious effort, don't be fooled; about as much effort as sliding my 98A type-S barros) and then cruising the same route today with my 99a F4 Spits, I nearly busted my ass on the first slide, it was so effortless.

Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: timv on September 30, 2014, 05:00:01 AM
My experience with wrecks is the same. Really hard and smooth but too grippy and obviously slower than f4's or stf's.  Also I had issues getting bearings to seat correctly with a spacer.

Back to my 99a 53mm f4's now and am happy.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: McCly on October 01, 2014, 05:36:13 AM
I got the 53mm conical fulls (previously the F4 Classic). I've only skated them about an hour but damn. They are great.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on October 01, 2014, 02:28:33 PM
Got a set of the 101a Conical Fulls in 54mm on the way for a park wheel, can't wait!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Willie on October 01, 2014, 04:47:06 PM
Has anyone seen/skated the regular conicals? The Full ones just seem like they would be too fat. Maybe I'm wrong...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Spitfire4life on October 01, 2014, 05:15:25 PM
Has anyone seen/skated the regular conicals? The Full ones just seem like they would be too fat. Maybe I'm wrong...
At 52mm classic shape has a riding surface of 15.5mm, just conical has a riding surface of 19.5mm, conical full (SFW) is 21mm. Hope that helped. Full charts here: http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on October 02, 2014, 09:39:44 AM
Has anyone seen/skated the regular conicals? The Full ones just seem like they would be too fat. Maybe I'm wrong...

I was debating over Full/Conical Full for a few weeks; finally bit the bullet on CFulls, I'll let you know my thoughts today when they arrive!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: art hellman on October 02, 2014, 11:07:08 AM
Has anyone seen/skated the regular conicals? The Full ones just seem like they would be too fat. Maybe I'm wrong...

I was debating over Full/Conical Full for a few weeks; finally bit the bullet on CFulls, I'll let you know my thoughts today when they arrive!

been skating conical fulls for a month or so now.  sooo good.  im not a fan of skinny wheels though, and i like sidecuts, so a little biased.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Willie on October 02, 2014, 03:15:50 PM
My current wheels are OJs with sidecuts. I think they have similar dimensions to the 'regular' F4 conicals.

I've never had anything but the general 'classic' shape until these but I think the conical/tablet/Bullet shape does stay locked in better on smiths, etc.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on October 02, 2014, 05:16:12 PM
Got my Conical Full F4s today - They're wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide. Very close in shape/width to the Type-S, which is what I wanted (type-S is too grippy)

Left to right: F4 53/99a Classic | F4  54/101a CF | Pi 56.5 | Type-S Barros 55mm 98a | 55mm Wreck 83b

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mVUSVDFZzVE/VC3pzyIxUaI/AAAAAAAAVvA/6yA6LBpO0sc/s800/IMG_20141002_135012.jpg)

Left to right: F4 53/99a Classic | F4  54/101a CF | Type-S Barros 55mm 98a | Pi 56.5 | 55mm Wreck 83b

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0jeuMG6Ha-U/VC3pz-CUQ8I/AAAAAAAAVvA/q_thWgY3hgc/s800/IMG_20141002_135100.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: GoodBurger on October 02, 2014, 07:59:05 PM
Damn I think the 99a conical fulls may be my next purchase. i bet they lock in like no other.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: louie_bk on October 02, 2014, 09:45:52 PM
Just set up the Conical 101a 52mm's after riding a sets of the Manderson's over the past year. Fav wheels.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on October 03, 2014, 02:44:12 PM
The 54mm 101 Conical Fulls held their own at the park today, super fast, LOUD and only one slipout (totally my fault). These really do give you tons of control when you want to slide.

All said and done, I probably could have gotten by with the conicals and not the fulls.

Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on October 03, 2014, 05:21:57 PM
Lenny, customer comment/feedback/question
Are the coloured conical fulls gonna come out in a 53? I only saw 52-54 and would love a middle ground size
Cheers bud
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 144p on October 03, 2014, 06:03:51 PM
Colored conical full?
Whoah cool.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on October 03, 2014, 06:34:21 PM
Not that 1mm makes or breaks anything but I like 55mm!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on October 03, 2014, 06:37:21 PM
Colored conical full?
Whoah cool.
it's badass green http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=50111 (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=50111)
Not that 1mm makes or breaks anything but I like 55mm!


im thinking more so i can mix and match  :)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on October 03, 2014, 06:40:51 PM
Xen is slaps resident wheel junkie. I trust him over all other biased reviewers
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on October 03, 2014, 08:04:47 PM
Xen is slaps resident wheel junkie. I trust him over all other biased reviewers

Thanks, but I'm no expert, I just know what I like.

My current wheels are OJs with sidecuts. I think they have similar dimensions to the 'regular' F4 conicals.

I've never had anything but the general 'classic' shape until these but I think the conical/tablet/Bullet shape does stay locked in better on smiths, etc.

Yup., locking in is great (harder for slappies tho).

 One of my favorite wheels was the Spit F1 Cole AWOL: (I imagine this to be close to the Conical shape), best of everything.
(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/86/26/e8/8626e8c888a365ff1b262f03918799b9.jpg)

STF V5 shape
(http://img.skatewarehouse.com/new_big/BSV5WH-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: heritage on October 05, 2014, 09:57:04 AM
Xen - I feel you on being picky about wheels. Right there with you. I am probably as OCD about wheels as I am boards. I generally try to set up a new set of wheels every 4-6 weeks. Right now my two favorite shapes are Autobahn Torus shape (Appleyard) and SML Wides. I keep flip flopping between the two because they both rule.

Autobahn are my favorite wheel manu overall. I never understood why they don't get more shine.

SML wheels were a little slick for me at first, I was sliding out from everything. But after skating them for a bit I love them.

Some various wheel shapes I've rode recently for you to check out.

From L to R: PFC Gore 53.5, Type S Modified 54, OJ Dela 53, Autobahn Pepper Sidecut 52, Autobahn ABX 53

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/IMG_20141005_103523_zps962bab06.jpg)

And some wheels I have on backup ready to roll from L to R:

SML Wide Herrington 53, Broadcast Crop Circle 53 (feel heavy to me), Autobahn Appleyard (Torus) 53, Autobahn Standard 53, Pusher Jimmy McDonald 53 (Pusher makes a damn nice wheel that is really underrated)

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/IMG_20141005_103651_zps1b435df2.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on October 05, 2014, 06:42:44 PM
You are the official wheel junkie ;)

Good picks! I love me some Autobahns (riden: AB-S, Torus dual, Nexus, ABX) but after riding F4s, nothing slides as good when or how you want it and still feels like urethane. Period.

The torus were too thin, I wanted wide, the Conical fulls might be too wide but i'm going to ride'em out and try conicals next round.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: TFUCKINA on October 13, 2014, 11:29:23 PM
Anyone rode the f4 classic full? I just ordered a set of reynolds f4's, and they were mislabeled on the site as classic, but i later found out they are classic full. Never had f4's, or classics fulls, just curious.....
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: TehPwnzorer on October 14, 2014, 12:53:56 AM
Anyone rode the f4 classic full? I just ordered a set of reynolds f4's, and they were mislabeled on the site as classic, but i later found out they are classic full. Never had f4's, or classics fulls, just curious.....
Spitfire F4 classic = Bones STF v1 while Spitfire F4 classic full = Bones STF v4 shape wise. Main difference is that F4 classic full increases in riding surface by 3mm~

(http://i58.tinypic.com/2mcaq93.png)
(http://i60.tinypic.com/t0olqv.png)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Kitto Horsley on October 14, 2014, 11:52:45 AM
Can anyone in the UK help me find the conical full or conical in 101 and 53mm.  Can't find any shops stocking them and i've tried emailing shiner.  Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: tortfeasor on October 14, 2014, 01:23:57 PM
anyone get a set with an off colored wheel? i'm kind of digging it.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: peeweepawn on October 14, 2014, 01:26:40 PM
Anyone rode the f4 classic full? I just ordered a set of reynolds f4's, and they were mislabeled on the site as classic, but i later found out they are classic full. Never had f4's, or classics fulls, just curious.....

did you get them from socalskateshop??
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on October 14, 2014, 01:55:03 PM
anyone get a set with an off colored wheel? i'm kind of digging it.

like the set they did with the one blue or red, or just an actual darker/lighter wheel in the normal urethane color?

the set of ishod pro ones i saw looked way darker than the ones i've seen in the past or the conical fulls i bought the other week
made them look dirty from the start
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Noble Experiment on October 14, 2014, 02:52:41 PM
It might just be me, but I've noticed that they were darker in color when they first came out and in the earlier batches. Seems like they made them brighter and closer to white over time.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Deekay on October 14, 2014, 03:52:35 PM
It might just be me, but I've noticed that they were darker in color when they first came out and in the earlier batches. Seems like they made them brighter and closer to white over time.

I think youre right, I just thought of that the other day too
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: TFUCKINA on October 14, 2014, 04:06:14 PM
Anyone rode the f4 classic full? I just ordered a set of reynolds f4's, and they were mislabeled on the site as classic, but i later found out they are classic full. Never had f4's, or classics fulls, just curious.....

did you get them from socalskateshop??

Yep.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: tortfeasor on October 14, 2014, 04:32:15 PM
anyone get a set with an off colored wheel? i'm kind of digging it.

like the set they did with the one blue or red, or just an actual darker/lighter wheel in the normal urethane color?

the set of ishod pro ones i saw looked way darker than the ones i've seen in the past or the conical fulls i bought the other week
made them look dirty from the start

i just logged back on to clarify.  Off color was the wrong term.  It just one blue wheel.  its very blue and its clearly intentional.  the wheels are fucking sick and well worth the 30+ page thread that they have spawned.   sorry for the confusion.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on October 14, 2014, 04:37:36 PM
anyone get a set with an off colored wheel? i'm kind of digging it.

like the set they did with the one blue or red, or just an actual darker/lighter wheel in the normal urethane color?

the set of ishod pro ones i saw looked way darker than the ones i've seen in the past or the conical fulls i bought the other week
made them look dirty from the start

i just logged back on to clarify.  Off color was the wrong term.  It just one blue wheel.  its very blue and its clearly intentional.  the wheels are fucking sick and well worth the 30+ page thread that they have spawned.   sorry for the confusion.

the one solid color ones look awesome, the half size extra on them is cool too
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: max power on October 14, 2014, 07:47:19 PM
the full classic 101 is perfect. the extra surface evens out how slidy the 101's are.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: m477 on October 14, 2014, 08:34:51 PM
Miss the tablet option :( guess I'll have to ride mine til they're bearing covers.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: TehPwnzorer on October 15, 2014, 02:32:07 AM
(http://i59.tinypic.com/2a67dw1.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on October 15, 2014, 10:14:21 AM
the full classic 101 is perfect. the extra surface evens out how slidy the 101's are.

When I was riding the 101 conical fulls, I wasn't hindered by their width when it came to sliding at all. However, I did feel they were just too wide for me, without providing any real benefit (wider would be more stable AND grippier but I didn't notice a difference).

I'm going for the classic fulls if I can find any online above 53mm.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on October 18, 2014, 06:17:33 PM
(http://scontent-a.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10735605_1525592104351466_1538096778_a.jpg)

took these down too a 49 after 5 months of skating, feels so weird putting new 53's on, hopefully get to put them through hell today
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Dr Steve Brule on October 18, 2014, 06:36:47 PM
Ordered another set of the F4's.  I may swear by these
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Stanley Spadowski on October 18, 2014, 08:07:27 PM
(http://scontent-a.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10735605_1525592104351466_1538096778_a.jpg)

took these down too a 49 after 5 months of skating, feels so weird putting new 53's on, hopefully get to put them through hell today
Wow, it still looks in good condition too.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fulfillthedream on October 18, 2014, 09:24:23 PM
ive skated just 3 sets of F4's in the last 12 months.. 2 sets of the 99a's and one of the 101s.. i prefer the 99s all the way.. good fucking solid lasting durable wheels!!!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on October 18, 2014, 10:23:50 PM
took these down too a 49 after 5 months of skating, feels so weird putting new 53's on, hopefully get to put them through hell today
Wow, it still looks in good condition too.

yeah they're still in a pretty decent way, i put them on this micro cruiser thing i've got, they slip something fierce though hence why i needed a change
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: MostlyLurkin' on November 10, 2014, 06:05:47 PM
Not sure if Im going to buy the conical or conical full F4's next.. Think the full's might actually be to wide for me. Could someone post a picture that shows the riding surface of them?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: CINCINNATI on November 10, 2014, 06:14:53 PM
are the mike andersen sfw non formula 4 the same width as conical fulls?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on November 10, 2014, 07:13:42 PM
Not sure if Im going to buy the conical or conical full F1's next.. Think the full's might actually be to wide for me. Could someone post a picture that shows the riding surface of them?
Thanks!
Don't have a skateshop near you? You should be fully lurkin after a post like that
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on November 10, 2014, 07:15:58 PM
are the mike andersen sfw non formula 4 the same width as conical fulls?

As close as you're gonna get, mandersons are a half mm wider but the difference is negligible, try them out, i love my set
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 144p on November 10, 2014, 07:16:31 PM


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/821f7883-c4c3-4871-af9c-77059516e995.jpg)

Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: MostlyLurkin' on November 10, 2014, 07:50:54 PM
Not sure if Im going to buy the conical or conical full F1's next.. Think the full's might actually be to wide for me. Could someone post a picture that shows the riding surface of them?
Thanks!
Don't have a skateshop near you? You should be fully lurkin after a post like that

I usually dont reply to T-racer posts, but yeah. I have a couple of local shops, but none of them have F4's.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: imgne on November 10, 2014, 10:41:10 PM
So as a person who swears by Bones wheels, I can honestly say that Spitfire F4 wheels are pretty damn amazing, but they don't last as long as bones do on shit surfaces, I've sold a few sets of F4's to have costumers come back requesting bones instead, one set of the 99a F4's started to bubble apart, i kinda put it down for being a dud set, but as time has gone one, as much as we sell them, the f4's get some weird reviews locally.

I think its just come down to personal preference, some people just don't like spitfire and some people simply don't like bones, obviously they're other wheels on the market, but in our stors, its STF vs F4 all the way...

I will say this, for guys who like bones but also like them to slide a bit more like spitfires, get coloured formula's, for some strange reason they seem to slide way better than the standard white. (would be curious to know if anyone agree's with me & could possibly explain why that is?)

Overall, F4's have saved spitfire from just being that wheel brand with the really known logo, to being a proper wheel company again!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: iwshilvdnfinland on November 11, 2014, 11:02:22 AM
on my 3rd set in a little over a year

why the fuck would you ride anything else
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: TehPwnzorer on November 11, 2014, 12:38:32 PM
on my 3rd set in a little over a year

why the fuck would you ride anything else
To remind yourself how good they actually are once you get spoiled and take the product for standard granted.

Like when I decided to try out Thunders after riding Indys for around 7 years. Can't really say I was enjoying skating at all the 3 months I put out with those trucks. Now I'm back on Indys again and asking myself why I even decided to switch in the first place.... Same concept goes for wheels too.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on November 13, 2014, 02:04:57 PM
Not sure if Im going to buy the conical or conical full F4's next.. Think the full's might actually be to wide for me. Could someone post a picture that shows the riding surface of them?
Thanks!

I usually ride classics, tried the Conical Fulls and the seemed really wide, with no real benefit (they were still super awesomely slidable)? I'm going to pick up some straight conicals next.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: TehPwnzorer on November 14, 2014, 04:22:03 AM
Conical & Conical Full. Both being 52mm
(http://i59.tinypic.com/i2k8zc.jpg)
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2evavjt.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: BMCsteve on November 14, 2014, 09:27:50 AM
Excuse my ignorance but what are the advantages of a wider riding surface outside of more grip in transition?  It seems like for street skating it wouldn't be ideal because a wider wheel in theory would be slower with more rolling resistance, more surface area to catch on pebbles or shit in the road and I'm guessing it takes more effort to slide
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: eatshitbum on November 14, 2014, 09:31:11 AM
So I just set-up some 99a 53mm Ishod F4s with a new pair of trucks (Thunder 147s). I was riding 100a 53mm F1 Streetburners for the past ~year. Definitely liking the F4s but I'm not sure how much of it is due to new/fast wheels/bearings. They do seem to slide better than the F1s while riding/feeling "softer" (if that makes any sense at all...). Also grabbed a set of 53mm 101a F4s to try but it looks like winter's here to stay.

Is it just me or do these wheels "sound" dead?? Grabbed my board from the trunk, dropped it on the ground and the "thunkclunk" sounded a lot closer to shitty blank wheels than my F1s did. They skated perfectly fine pop-wise but the sound was a bit of a throw-off for the first couple of ollies
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on November 14, 2014, 10:13:44 AM
So I just set-up some 99a 53mm Ishod F4s with a new pair of trucks (Thunder 147s). I was riding 100a 53mm F1 Streetburners for the past ~year. Definitely liking the F4s but I'm not sure how much of it is due to new/fast wheels/bearings. They do seem to slide better than the F1s while riding/feeling "softer" (if that makes any sense at all...). Also grabbed a set of 53mm 101a F4s to try but it looks like winter's here to stay.

Is it just me or do these wheels "sound" dead?? Grabbed my board from the trunk, dropped it on the ground and the "thunkclunk" sounded a lot closer to shitty blank wheels than my F1s did. They skated perfectly fine pop-wise but the sound was a bit of a throw-off for the first couple of ollies

Axle bolts too tight? I find that boards can sound dead (and wheels are not as screechy) of there is no play on the wheels.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: LennyDLXSF on November 14, 2014, 11:19:44 AM
So I just set-up some 99a 53mm Ishod F4s with a new pair of trucks (Thunder 147s). I was riding 100a 53mm F1 Streetburners for the past ~year. Definitely liking the F4s but I'm not sure how much of it is due to new/fast wheels/bearings. They do seem to slide better than the F1s while riding/feeling "softer" (if that makes any sense at all...). Also grabbed a set of 53mm 101a F4s to try but it looks like winter's here to stay.

Is it just me or do these wheels "sound" dead?? Grabbed my board from the trunk, dropped it on the ground and the "thunkclunk" sounded a lot closer to shitty blank wheels than my F1s did. They skated perfectly fine pop-wise but the sound was a bit of a throw-off for the first couple of ollies



Axle bolts too tight? I find that boards can sound dead (and wheels are not as screechy) of there is no play on the wheels.

New bearings will also change the sound a bit until the grease gets worn down.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 144p on November 14, 2014, 12:07:38 PM
So I just set-up some 99a 53mm Ishod F4s with a new pair of trucks (Thunder 147s). I was riding 100a 53mm F1 Streetburners for the past ~year. Definitely liking the F4s but I'm not sure how much of it is due to new/fast wheels/bearings. They do seem to slide better than the F1s while riding/feeling "softer" (if that makes any sense at all...). Also grabbed a set of 53mm 101a F4s to try but it looks like winter's here to stay.

Is it just me or do these wheels "sound" dead?? Grabbed my board from the trunk, dropped it on the ground and the "thunkclunk" sounded a lot closer to shitty blank wheels than my F1s did. They skated perfectly fine pop-wise but the sound was a bit of a throw-off for the first couple of ollies



Axle bolts too tight? I find that boards can sound dead (and wheels are not as screechy) of there is no play on the wheels.

New bearings will also change the sound a bit until the grease gets worn down.
This. While new bearings/wheels  should feel great, often times the first day or two the wheels feel almost softer than they really are, give it a bit.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: eatshitbum on November 14, 2014, 12:55:11 PM
So I just set-up some 99a 53mm Ishod F4s with a new pair of trucks (Thunder 147s). I was riding 100a 53mm F1 Streetburners for the past ~year. Definitely liking the F4s but I'm not sure how much of it is due to new/fast wheels/bearings. They do seem to slide better than the F1s while riding/feeling "softer" (if that makes any sense at all...). Also grabbed a set of 53mm 101a F4s to try but it looks like winter's here to stay.

Is it just me or do these wheels "sound" dead?? Grabbed my board from the trunk, dropped it on the ground and the "thunkclunk" sounded a lot closer to shitty blank wheels than my F1s did. They skated perfectly fine pop-wise but the sound was a bit of a throw-off for the first couple of ollies



Axle bolts too tight? I find that boards can sound dead (and wheels are not as screechy) of there is no play on the wheels.

New bearings will also change the sound a bit until the grease gets worn down.
This. While new bearings/wheels  should feel great, often times the first day or two the wheels feel almost softer than they really are, give it a bit.

Cool, thanks very much for the replies guys. My axle bolts definitely aren't too tight (I always leave a little wiggle room) but great suggestion Xen. Lenny/144p, the bearings are new so it sounds I'll have to skate em down some more.

Thinking about it now, the F4s also sounded different when "digging into" bs 180s... almost like they "glided" more. Definitely need to skate the F4s more but I'm thinking there's something cool going on here feel-wise.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: TehPwnzorer on November 14, 2014, 03:18:33 PM
Excuse my ignorance but what are the advantages of a wider riding surface outside of more grip in transition?  It seems like for street skating it wouldn't be ideal because a wider wheel in theory would be slower with more rolling resistance, more surface area to catch on pebbles or shit in the road and I'm guessing it takes more effort to slide
No advantages really... I don't even feel them gripping that much more than the classic shape tbh. 149s are too big for me so the conical full are perfect for those trucks. Giving me a little more width makes me think the hanger is smaller than it actually is. I got the regular conical on my main setup. No advantages whatsoever. You lock in just as good with the classic shape. I've always prefered conical shapes over classic. Was riding Bones v2 all the time before F4 got out on the market. That's all there's to it.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 144p on November 14, 2014, 04:56:11 PM
Having skated multiple sets of classics, full cuts, conicals and concial full i can say in the 99 that there is a difference in grip and stability in the different shapes. In the 101's they all feel about the same, the conical fulls are a little more grippy but not much.
On a fresh back top road the conical fulls struggle to break into a slide vs a classic cut acts like it would on any surface.
Mostly I notice the square shape holding a ledge or coping edge better vs a radial classic that rolls out much easier.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: TehPwnzorer on November 15, 2014, 03:09:41 PM
I take it all back. It's indoor season here so I've only tried the conicals on slippery wooden floor. I couldn't feel the difference on the slippery wooden floor but I felt a difference on the outdoor concrete floor today. They actually do grip. There's a noticeable difference between classic and conicals gripping wise. Probably even more noticeable with the conical full that I didn't get to try since I no longer use the 149 setup. That goes for the 99 duro. Also felt a little better lock on the smaller cooping which I couldn't notice on heavier coopings.

Everything 144p said above is on point.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: MostlyLurkin' on November 15, 2014, 05:01:44 PM
Quote from: TehPwnzorer  link=topic=68020.msg2242110#msg2242110 date=1415967723
Conical & Conical Full. Both being 52mm
(http://i59.tinypic.com/i2k8zc.jpg)
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2evavjt.jpg)

Thanks dude. That's exactly the kind of picture I was looking for. Gnar's for you, sir!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: eatshitbum on December 09, 2014, 04:40:51 PM
Ok, I hate to bump a topic that's faded a bit but no better thread to toss this...

All of the snow we got melted over the past couple of days so I skated flat yesterday for a quick 20 minutes. Went to check my board today and saw this...

(http://i.imgur.com/DyH76Q5l.jpg)

I don't want to take them back to my shop and be a pain in the ass... shit happens. This was definitely from a rock while trying to "skid out" a couple bs180s. That said, I can definitely feel/hear the "flatspot" and while I know it'll skate down, I paid full price and the wheels have under 5 hrs of riding on them.

Any recommendations? Already bought a set of F1 streetburners to ride but this is a bit disappointing given the hype these wheels have gotten
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: BMCsteve on December 09, 2014, 04:44:46 PM
Hit up DLX.  They will help you out.  One thing that I love about them is they simply stand by all of their products.  I never hesitate to buy anything from them because I know if I have an issue, they'll make it right.

Probably the best dudes in the skate industry when it comes to taking care of their customers
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: eatshitbum on December 09, 2014, 04:55:49 PM
Hit up DLX.  They will help you out.  One thing that I love about them is they simply stand by all of their products.  I never hesitate to buy anything from them because I know if I have an issue, they'll make it right.

Probably the best dudes in the skate industry when it comes to taking care of their customers

thanks Steve. do DLX reps still hit up this thread or is facebook my best bet? I've seen a few posting before. I'm planning on dealing with this fully tomorrow (got a big exam at 9 am).
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fulfillthedream on December 09, 2014, 06:05:28 PM
Ok, I hate to bump a topic that's faded a bit but no better thread to toss this...

All of the snow we got melted over the past couple of days so I skated flat yesterday for a quick 20 minutes. Went to check my board today and saw this...

(http://i.imgur.com/DyH76Q5l.jpg)

I don't want to take them back to my shop and be a pain in the ass... shit happens. This was definitely from a rock while trying to "skid out" a couple bs180s. That said, I can definitely feel/hear the "flatspot" and while I know it'll skate down, I paid full price and the wheels have under 5 hrs of riding on them.

Any recommendations? Already bought a set of F1 streetburners to ride but this is a bit disappointing given the hype these wheels have gotten

this happened to me on some f4 52mm classic shaped 99a's and fixed it self within one session of just rolling it self out...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: LennyDLXSF on December 09, 2014, 08:20:16 PM
Ok, I hate to bump a topic that's faded a bit but no better thread to toss this...

All of the snow we got melted over the past couple of days so I skated flat yesterday for a quick 20 minutes. Went to check my board today and saw this...

(http://i.imgur.com/DyH76Q5l.jpg)

I don't want to take them back to my shop and be a pain in the ass... shit happens. This was definitely from a rock while trying to "skid out" a couple bs180s. That said, I can definitely feel/hear the "flatspot" and while I know it'll skate down, I paid full price and the wheels have under 5 hrs of riding on them.

Any recommendations? Already bought a set of F1 streetburners to ride but this is a bit disappointing given the hype these wheels have gotten

PM'd!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: eatshitbum on December 09, 2014, 09:13:34 PM
this happened to me on some f4 52mm classic shaped 99a's and fixed it self within one session of just rolling it self out...

Thanks for the feedback fulfillthedream. These are the 99a's and it definitely looks/feels like it'll skate itself out (which is why I didn't go back to my shop) but...

PM'd!

... good thing DLXSF has the whole "customer service" thing on lockdown. Thanks again for the help everyone/DLXSF and Lenny, I would totally gnar you if I could!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fulfillthedream on December 09, 2014, 11:52:17 PM
this happened to me on some f4 52mm classic shaped 99a's and fixed it self within one session of just rolling it self out...

Thanks for the feedback fulfillthedream. These are the 99a's and it definitely looks/feels like it'll skate itself out (which is why I didn't go back to my shop) but...

PM'd!

... good thing DLXSF has the whole "customer service" thing on lockdown. Thanks again for the help everyone/DLXSF and Lenny, I would totally gnar you if I could!

fuck yeah- DLX's assurance on quality is ON POINT... I've had a few "damaged" products after the usual wear and tear of skateboarding but it's sick they're down to honor their warranties 100%

a homie of mine posted some 2 year old thunders that were down to the aceels on instagram- there was a small little crack but the trucks were on their way out any how- Jim T commented "we'll replace those" and my homie declined the offer cause he felt he got his money's worth...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: eatshitbum on December 17, 2014, 10:28:52 PM
this happened to me on some f4 52mm classic shaped 99a's and fixed it self within one session of just rolling it self out...

Thanks for the feedback fulfillthedream. These are the 99a's and it definitely looks/feels like it'll skate itself out (which is why I didn't go back to my shop) but...

PM'd!

... good thing DLXSF has the whole "customer service" thing on lockdown. Thanks again for the help everyone/DLXSF and Lenny, I would totally gnar you if I could!

fuck yeah- DLX's assurance on quality is ON POINT... I've had a few "damaged" products after the usual wear and tear of skateboarding but it's sick they're down to honor their warranties 100%

a homie of mine posted some 2 year old thunders that were down to the aceels on instagram- there was a small little crack but the trucks were on their way out any how- Jim T commented "we'll replace those" and my homie declined the offer cause he felt he got his money's worth...

If you're gonna post about the bad, you gotta post about the good. This came in the mail today...

(http://i.imgur.com/HtGkJuBl.jpg)

Thanks very much Reed, Deluxe and Supra distribution! Spitfire's getting all my wheel money in the future
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fulfillthedream on December 18, 2014, 12:09:27 AM
this happened to me on some f4 52mm classic shaped 99a's and fixed it self within one session of just rolling it self out...

Thanks for the feedback fulfillthedream. These are the 99a's and it definitely looks/feels like it'll skate itself out (which is why I didn't go back to my shop) but...

PM'd!

... good thing DLXSF has the whole "customer service" thing on lockdown. Thanks again for the help everyone/DLXSF and Lenny, I would totally gnar you if I could!

fuck yeah- DLX's assurance on quality is ON POINT... I've had a few "damaged" products after the usual wear and tear of skateboarding but it's sick they're down to honor their warranties 100%

a homie of mine posted some 2 year old thunders that were down to the aceels on instagram- there was a small little crack but the trucks were on their way out any how- Jim T commented "we'll replace those" and my homie declined the offer cause he felt he got his money's worth...

If you're gonna post about the bad, you gotta post about the good. This came in the mail today...

(http://i.imgur.com/HtGkJuBl.jpg)

Thanks very much Reed, Deluxe and Supra distribution! Spitfire's getting all my wheel money in the future

Damn! The maple leaf stickers are sick! I think its from a collab they did with a Canadian shop???
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: BMCsteve on December 18, 2014, 06:06:19 AM
That's exactly why I've given DLX so much of my money over the last 15+ years.  They make great stuff and odds are that you'll never have a problem with it but if you do, they take care of you.  It's uncommon in any industry but especially in the skate world.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dillanharp on December 18, 2014, 08:20:58 AM
I'll never leave you deluxe...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: LennyDLXSF on December 18, 2014, 08:32:59 AM
this happened to me on some f4 52mm classic shaped 99a's and fixed it self within one session of just rolling it self out...

Thanks for the feedback fulfillthedream. These are the 99a's and it definitely looks/feels like it'll skate itself out (which is why I didn't go back to my shop) but...

PM'd!

... good thing DLXSF has the whole "customer service" thing on lockdown. Thanks again for the help everyone/DLXSF and Lenny, I would totally gnar you if I could!

fuck yeah- DLX's assurance on quality is ON POINT... I've had a few "damaged" products after the usual wear and tear of skateboarding but it's sick they're down to honor their warranties 100%

a homie of mine posted some 2 year old thunders that were down to the aceels on instagram- there was a small little crack but the trucks were on their way out any how- Jim T commented "we'll replace those" and my homie declined the offer cause he felt he got his money's worth...

If you're gonna post about the bad, you gotta post about the good. This came in the mail today...

(http://i.imgur.com/HtGkJuBl.jpg)

Thanks very much Reed, Deluxe and Supra distribution! Spitfire's getting all my wheel money in the future

Happy to help!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Deekay on December 18, 2014, 01:22:44 PM
That rules! I just got some new f4 99's today and I'm hyped to support these dudes after seeing this
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: tangar on December 23, 2014, 12:02:41 AM
hey Lenny, i just bought some of these Speedies for my daughters first skateboard, i wanted to ask if these bubbles are normal, they are on all of the wheels on the inside by the core, and one wheel has a bubble on the riding surface. if its normal and wont effect their function im not worried about it but i thought i should check with you. thanks. (sorry for the huge pics guys)

(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af305/tangar07/skate%20stuff/8EDCA67A-6DCD-4FA1-98D4-B2BEB62CD76A_zps7ixemsod.jpg) (http://s1018.photobucket.com/user/tangar07/media/skate%20stuff/8EDCA67A-6DCD-4FA1-98D4-B2BEB62CD76A_zps7ixemsod.jpg.html)
(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af305/tangar07/skate%20stuff/FBB1E1F3-A508-4E73-A5EB-98BC660F0446_zpsztbbqlwq.jpg) (http://s1018.photobucket.com/user/tangar07/media/skate%20stuff/FBB1E1F3-A508-4E73-A5EB-98BC660F0446_zpsztbbqlwq.jpg.html)
(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af305/tangar07/skate%20stuff/53D36FED-E657-4B12-A414-030426F8EAA1_zps600uyntm.jpg) (http://s1018.photobucket.com/user/tangar07/media/skate%20stuff/53D36FED-E657-4B12-A414-030426F8EAA1_zps600uyntm.jpg.html)
(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af305/tangar07/skate%20stuff/7CFF57B5-3139-47E0-8CD0-C4E5F13C593E_zpszl7zs20e.jpg) (http://s1018.photobucket.com/user/tangar07/media/skate%20stuff/7CFF57B5-3139-47E0-8CD0-C4E5F13C593E_zpszl7zs20e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Noble Experiment on December 23, 2014, 12:46:25 AM
I've had those on a few sets of STFs I've had. They usually don't make a difference, just cosmetic more than anything, at least from my experience. Never seen em on SFs before though.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: LennyDLXSF on December 23, 2014, 07:51:39 AM
hey Lenny, i just bought some of these Speedies for my daughters first skateboard, i wanted to ask if these bubbles are normal, they are on all of the wheels on the inside by the core, and one wheel has a bubble on the riding surface. if its normal and wont effect their function im not worried about it but i thought i should check with you. thanks. (sorry for the huge pics guys)

(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af305/tangar07/skate%20stuff/8EDCA67A-6DCD-4FA1-98D4-B2BEB62CD76A_zps7ixemsod.jpg) (http://s1018.photobucket.com/user/tangar07/media/skate%20stuff/8EDCA67A-6DCD-4FA1-98D4-B2BEB62CD76A_zps7ixemsod.jpg.html)
(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af305/tangar07/skate%20stuff/FBB1E1F3-A508-4E73-A5EB-98BC660F0446_zpsztbbqlwq.jpg) (http://s1018.photobucket.com/user/tangar07/media/skate%20stuff/FBB1E1F3-A508-4E73-A5EB-98BC660F0446_zpsztbbqlwq.jpg.html)
(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af305/tangar07/skate%20stuff/53D36FED-E657-4B12-A414-030426F8EAA1_zps600uyntm.jpg) (http://s1018.photobucket.com/user/tangar07/media/skate%20stuff/53D36FED-E657-4B12-A414-030426F8EAA1_zps600uyntm.jpg.html)
(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af305/tangar07/skate%20stuff/7CFF57B5-3139-47E0-8CD0-C4E5F13C593E_zpszl7zs20e.jpg) (http://s1018.photobucket.com/user/tangar07/media/skate%20stuff/7CFF57B5-3139-47E0-8CD0-C4E5F13C593E_zpszl7zs20e.jpg.html)

Hey Tanger,

The bubbles are normal. I've talked with the product development guys about them before, and although they are a little unsightly, they should not affect the way the wheels ride at all. If for some reason your not happy with them though, PM me, and I'll take care of it for you!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: the_unknown_soldier on December 23, 2014, 07:57:53 AM
Yeah, as long as the bearing still fits it shouldn't be a problem. Has happened to me before.


I've had my eye on those all blue 99s for a minute. Been skating the white 101s pretty much all year and they're still holding strong minus a few small chips. (Which I blame myself for. Skated some pretty much unskatable pavement and that was the result. Not even mad.)


I'm a believer.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: dillanharp on December 23, 2014, 08:24:24 AM
Yea I've had those bubbles on classics many times, no big deal.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: tangar on December 23, 2014, 11:08:01 AM
Sweet thanks dudes!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: CINCINNATI on January 11, 2015, 03:40:57 PM
Sorry to bump an old thread, but are  comparable sized conical fulls wider than the Mike Anderson wheels? Like are 56 mm conical fulls the same width as 56mm manderson wheels?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Spitfire4life on January 11, 2015, 05:14:51 PM
Sorry to bump an old thread, but are  comparable sized conical fulls wider than the Mike Anderson wheels? Like are 56 mm conical fulls the same width as 56mm manderson wheels?
I don't have the measurements, but I had the manderson's while my friend has the Concial Fulls in the same size, and they look exactly the same. I'm pretty sure it's the same shape/dimensions, just a different name. Maybe they changed the name since the SFW is technically Manderson's wheel, this way the F4's can be labeled as team wheels?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: CINCINNATI on January 11, 2015, 05:18:59 PM
Sorry to bump an old thread, but are  comparable sized conical fulls wider than the Mike Anderson wheels? Like are 56 mm conical fulls the same width as 56mm manderson wheels?
I don't have the measurements, but I had the manderson's while my friend has the Concial Fulls in the same size, and they look exactly the same. I'm pretty sure it's the same shape/dimensions, just a different name. Maybe they changed the name since the SFW is technically Manderson's wheel, this way the F4's can be labeled as team wheels?

ok cool. thanks dude!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on January 12, 2015, 04:34:43 PM
ight so i had the FULL shape 99's when they first came out and wanna try the conicals again, but the full 99's didn't really slide like i wanted. ive had the 101 and 99 classics, and the 101 was a little too slick at times. what i wanna know is if i get the regular conicals in a 101, will it kinda balance out the hardness? i guess i just wanna know if they will kinda have a balance of grip and slide like the classic 99 or what?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on January 12, 2015, 06:05:32 PM
ight so i had the FULL shape 99's when they first came out and wanna try the conicals again, but the full 99's didn't really slide like i wanted. ive had the 101 and 99 classics, and the 101 was a little too slick at times. what i wanna know is if i get the regular conicals in a 101, will it kinda balance out the hardness? i guess i just wanna know if they will kinda have a balance of grip and slide like the classic 99 or what?

I've ridden the following F4s:

52mm 101 classic
53mm 99a classic
54mm 101a conical fulls (lost them)
54mm 101a conicals

I'm with you on the 99a slide (I rode them after the 52 101s) but they are great for rougher roads. The conical fulls were strictly park use until I lost them so very little in the way of slides (bowl park) except for on the walls of the big bowls (alleyoop slides).

The conicals in 101a do indeed work like you are thinking. Slide like a 101 should, glassy but with a bit more grip than say the classic 101s. Case in point, I took two setups out recently to skate with my kids in a parking lot, was sliding around on the conicals, all good, switch to the 101 classics and damn near killed myself on the first slide (using the same effort).
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: N.L. on January 15, 2015, 05:57:53 PM
If I had to ride only one set of wheels for the rest of my skate life, it would be 56mm Conical Full 99a F4s. Fucking love them on all terrain. Now just make them in that orange Spitifre used to do in the 90s and I'm done.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: KMAC on January 22, 2015, 06:12:41 PM
anybody know anything about the "RADIALS" shape they were giving advanced sets of on instagram?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fulfillthedream on January 22, 2015, 09:30:32 PM
After riding the conical full 99a i prefer the classic shape over it.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: N.L. on January 23, 2015, 01:57:43 PM
Radials look good. Wide like the conical fulls but very rounded radius.

(http://www.dlxsf.com/spring15/img/sf/dt/02-RADIAL-FEATURE-DT-1-1200.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: art hellman on January 23, 2015, 02:32:01 PM
fan of the conical fulls.  I like being able to skate a smaller wheel with the riding surface of a larger wheel. 

definitely the best wheel i've skated (99a) for gripping while the skating indoor dust rinks of the midwest
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on January 23, 2015, 02:46:04 PM
I like being able to skate a smaller wheel with the riding surface of a larger wheel.

This is exactly what I love about mine, been on them for three months or so and they feel perfect
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: icybear187 on January 23, 2015, 02:58:01 PM
Ok, I hate to bump a topic that's faded a bit but no better thread to toss this...

All of the snow we got melted over the past couple of days so I skated flat yesterday for a quick 20 minutes. Went to check my board today and saw this...

(http://i.imgur.com/DyH76Q5l.jpg)

I don't want to take them back to my shop and be a pain in the ass... shit happens. This was definitely from a rock while trying to "skid out" a couple bs180s. That said, I can definitely feel/hear the "flatspot" and while I know it'll skate down, I paid full price and the wheels have under 5 hrs of riding on them.

Any recommendations? Already bought a set of F1 streetburners to ride but this is a bit disappointing given the hype these wheels have gotten

That isn't a product defect nor is it a flatspot.  What is truly disappointing is the lack of self accountability that is plaguing individuals today.  Learn how to do a proper full 180 and buck up and ride the wheels out.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 144p on January 23, 2015, 04:13:37 PM
Radials look good. Wide like the conical fulls but very rounded radius.

(http://www.dlxsf.com/spring15/img/sf/dt/02-RADIAL-FEATURE-DT-1-1200.jpg)
The radius is a good option if the wheelbite from the conical fulls is a big problem.
Got a set to try.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on January 23, 2015, 09:42:08 PM
Ok, I hate to bump a topic that's faded a bit but no better thread to toss this...

All of the snow we got melted over the past couple of days so I skated flat yesterday for a quick 20 minutes. Went to check my board today and saw this...

(http://i.imgur.com/DyH76Q5l.jpg)

I don't want to take them back to my shop and be a pain in the ass... shit happens. This was definitely from a rock while trying to "skid out" a couple bs180s. That said, I can definitely feel/hear the "flatspot" and while I know it'll skate down, I paid full price and the wheels have under 5 hrs of riding on them.

Any recommendations? Already bought a set of F1 streetburners to ride but this is a bit disappointing given the hype these wheels have gotten

/agree


That isn't a product defect nor is it a flatspot.  What is truly disappointing is the lack of self accountability that is plaguing individuals today.  Learn how to do a proper full 180 and buck up and ride the wheels out.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: max power on January 24, 2015, 10:36:37 AM
those radials look great.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 144p on January 24, 2015, 07:18:22 PM
I rode mine today, lock in to ledges and coping like the conicals but less wheelbite.
I am a fan.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Stanley Spadowski on January 24, 2015, 10:12:41 PM
Radials look good. Wide like the conical fulls but very rounded radius.

(http://www.dlxsf.com/spring15/img/sf/dt/02-RADIAL-FEATURE-DT-1-1200.jpg)
When, where can I get these? Release date?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 144p on January 25, 2015, 08:12:24 AM
Right now, 52s were all that are available.
Other sizes this month probably.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: N.L. on January 25, 2015, 09:05:07 AM
Nice. Love to try them at some point but I now have a stack of Classics and Concical Fulls to make my way through... Nice problem to have , I suppose.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Stanley Spadowski on January 25, 2015, 03:41:30 PM
Right now, 52s were all that are available.
Other sizes this month probably.
52s the size I skate. Any places online that have them?
Or is DLX just kinda flowing them to people until all the sizes are available?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: art hellman on January 26, 2015, 05:56:34 AM
Right now, 52s were all that are available.
Other sizes this month probably.
52s the size I skate. Any places online that have them?
Or is DLX just kinda flowing them to people until all the sizes are available?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: VCR on January 26, 2015, 06:55:47 AM
Does anybody know what shape the Ishod Formula Fours are?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: LennyDLXSF on January 26, 2015, 08:05:14 AM
Does anybody know what shape the Ishod Formula Fours are?

They're on the Classic shape.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: BMCsteve on January 26, 2015, 10:32:57 AM
I know wide wheels are the current trend but it would be sweet to see some F4 Slims come out
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Noble Experiment on January 26, 2015, 10:41:43 AM
I know wide wheels are the current trend but it would be sweet to see some F4 Slims come out
Yes.
I've always been one to prefer a slimmer wheel. An F4 in a slim shape would be an insta-buy for me.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Willie on January 26, 2015, 03:51:14 PM
I know wide wheels are the current trend but it would be sweet to see some F4 Slims come out
Yes.
I've always been one to prefer a slimmer wheel. An F4 in a slim shape would be an insta-buy for me.

Unless I'm riding a 58mm+ or something on a big ass board I don't see the appeal of wide or 'full' shapes.

Regular or slim is fine. Everything else just eats up truck real estate.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 144p on January 26, 2015, 07:10:50 PM
Wider wheels are more resistant to flatspots, offer better grip and turn better. That may sound odd but like cars a wider tire offers a better turn. Those of us who skate slippery parks or destroy a set of wheels in a session have learned to appreciate a wider cut. 
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: N.L. on January 26, 2015, 08:03:03 PM
Wider wheels are more resistant to flatspots, offer better grip and turn better. That may sound odd but like cars a wider tire offers a better turn. Those of us who skate slippery parks or destroy a set of wheels in a session have learned to appreciate a wider cut. 

Truth.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: BMCsteve on January 26, 2015, 08:59:01 PM
Wider wheels are more resistant to flatspots, offer better grip and turn better. That may sound odd but like cars a wider tire offers a better turn. Those of us who skate slippery parks or destroy a set of wheels in a session have learned to appreciate a wider cut. 

Yeah I definitely get the advantages for some skaters but for my wider wheels are heavier, take up more room on the hanger, take more effort to slide, etc. 
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 144p on January 27, 2015, 07:27:40 AM
I respect and understand the differences for sure. Have friends that ride the slimmest bones shape and can tell the difference.
I was responding to
Unless I'm riding a 58mm+ or something on a big ass board I don't see the appeal of wide or 'full' shapes.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: BMCsteve on January 27, 2015, 01:14:12 PM
Yeah, I skate the Bones V3 which are their slimmest profile.  I definitely prefer F4's though.  I think a slim shape would actually do really well
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: The Nose Face on January 27, 2015, 02:31:33 PM
Think we'll ever see a lock-in F4? This is the shape I always loved for coping. I think the last ones around were some for AVE
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on January 27, 2015, 02:34:19 PM
Quote from: The Nose Face  link=topic=68020.msg2280937#msg2280937 date=1422397893
Think we'll ever see a lock-in F4? This is the shape I always loved for coping. I think the last ones around were some for AVE

Maybe if AVE gets a pro edition like how lance has a conical full one out now, they did F1 lock ins right?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: The Nose Face on January 28, 2015, 06:37:20 AM
Quote from: The Nose Face  link=topic=68020.msg2280937#msg2280937 date=1422397893
Think we'll ever see a lock-in F4? This is the shape I always loved for coping. I think the last ones around were some for AVE

Maybe if AVE gets a pro edition like how lance has a conical full one out now, they did F1 lock ins right?

(http://www.dlxsf.com/summer12/sf/SPITFIRE/sf-cat-summer12-11.jpg)
(http://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/images/spitfire-lock-ins-ave-slicks-skateboard-wheels-54mm-p11393-24124_zoom.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: m477 on January 28, 2015, 01:08:51 PM
Not a fan of asymmetrical wheels, I try to make my wheels last a long time by flipping them around when they get coned and differently cut sides bugs me.

Radials look good.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 144p on January 28, 2015, 03:15:26 PM
Right now, 52s were all that are available.
Other sizes this month probably.
52s the size I skate. Any places online that have them?
Or is DLX just kinda flowing them to people until all the sizes are available?
Just getting out to shops now, assuming it's january we are all pretty slow now so be a bit before anyone is stocking them.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Fukd on February 23, 2015, 08:57:31 PM
Just wanted to poke my head in and say that I'm really digging my 54mm 101a formula fours. Mostly skated parks with them and they can be a little slick at times, but overall I am very happy with them. I tested them out on a few neighborhood hills and they powerslid so easily. Honestly it was kind of scary because I didn't seem to lose any speed at all. Unfortunatly they chunked on me, but I hit up LennyDLXSF, and he was able to get me a replacement set. Excited to skate these wheels, and grab the 99a next time around. I don't see myself ever riding a pair of non-spitfire wheels. Thanks again Reed!

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Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: snaked plissken on February 24, 2015, 06:28:59 AM
Wanted another set of PFC wheels but they don't have my size in stock, so i got a set of f4's...interested to see how they feel. although i have no clue when i'll skate again since this weather is bonkers.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: LennyDLXSF on February 24, 2015, 07:34:20 AM
Just wanted to poke my head in and say that I'm really digging my 54mm 101a formula fours. Mostly skated parks with them and they can be a little slick at times, but overall I am very happy with them. I tested them out on a few neighborhood hills and they powerslid so easily. Honestly it was kind of scary because I didn't seem to lose any speed at all. Unfortunatly they chunked on me, but I hit up LennyDLXSF, and he was able to get me a replacement set. Excited to skate these wheels, and grab the 99a next time around. I don't see myself ever riding a pair of non-spitfire wheels. Thanks again Reed!

(https://41.media.tumblr.com/e8326e79e3098b00749d9e5ee599271e/tumblr_nk90ikdpAz1spkqnko1_400.jpg)

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Glad you are enjoying the new set!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Prince Nelson on February 24, 2015, 11:19:39 AM
riding 54mm F4 101's after being on Welcome wheels for a few months. They immediately feel smoother and faster.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on March 30, 2015, 09:26:44 PM


I will say this, for guys who like bones but also like them to slide a bit more like spitfires, get coloured formula's, for some strange reason they seem to slide way better than the standard white. (would be curious to know if anyone agree's with me & could possibly explain why that is?)


i was looking over this thread and due to a miss click end on this page.

its not just you, colored bones slide and feel better, buddy of mine felt the same way with his his yellow homoki stfs and me with my greeen schroder spfs...this was two years or so ago tho.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: foureyedjim on March 30, 2015, 10:14:15 PM
so far, after the pre-release f4's, I've only had two sets and they never had any issues
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on March 30, 2015, 11:53:36 PM


I will say this, for guys who like bones but also like them to slide a bit more like spitfires, get coloured formula's, for some strange reason they seem to slide way better than the standard white. (would be curious to know if anyone agree's with me & could possibly explain why that is?)


i was looking over this thread and due to a miss click end on this page.

its not just you, colored bones slide and feel better, buddy of mine felt the same way with his his yellow homoki stfs and me with my greeen schroder spfs...this was two years or so ago tho.

I had the homoki yellows and slid them until a massive flatspot ruined it. They were my fav wheels until I got wrecks, not Im back on STF
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: shotformeat on April 24, 2015, 05:22:39 AM
I wouldn't normally bother with this, but I recently got some 52mm Luan Conical F4's, only skated to the shops on them twice and they chunked on me already and that really doesn't seem right to me. The last set of F4's I had were great and lasted months. I live in London, UK though and not quite sure who is best to contact with this? Any help much appreciated!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 24, 2015, 05:42:10 AM
I wouldn't normally bother with this, but I recently got some 52mm Luan Conical F4's, only skated to the shops on them twice and they chunked on me already and that really doesn't seem right to me. The last set of F4's I had were great and lasted months. I live in London, UK though and not quite sure who is best to contact with this? Any help much appreciated!

Man, quit being a pussy and ride with that shit, that small little thing doesnt affect anything! You sound like a baby.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fangen on April 24, 2015, 05:58:25 AM
I wouldn't normally bother with this, but I recently got some 52mm Luan Conical F4's, only skated to the shops on them twice and they chunked on me already and that really doesn't seem right to me. The last set of F4's I had were great and lasted months. I live in London, UK though and not quite sure who is best to contact with this? Any help much appreciated!

skate it out, bitch.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: perverted super otaku! on April 24, 2015, 07:00:55 AM
I wouldn't normally bother with this, but I recently got some 52mm Luan Conical F4's, only skated to the shops on them twice and they chunked on me already and that really doesn't seem right to me. The last set of F4's I had were great and lasted months. I live in London, UK though and not quite sure who is best to contact with this? Any help much appreciated!
I see what your saying, but man, skate down a hill and do some reverts and or over some tight packed cobbles stones, "problem"solved. We got rough ground in Canada and shitty sidewalks too and every set of wheels i ride does this(usually in the first few days) and the performance is NOT effected. No sense wasting a perfectly good set of new wheels. Amazing wheels at that.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: shotformeat on April 24, 2015, 07:29:48 AM
I wouldn't normally bother with this, but I recently got some 52mm Luan Conical F4's, only skated to the shops on them twice and they chunked on me already and that really doesn't seem right to me. The last set of F4's I had were great and lasted months. I live in London, UK though and not quite sure who is best to contact with this? Any help much appreciated!
I see what your saying, but man, skate down a hill and do some reverts and or over some tight packed cobbles stones, "problem"solved. We got rough ground in Canada and shitty sidewalks too and every set of wheels i ride does this(usually in the first few days) and the performance is NOT effected. No sense wasting a perfectly good set of new wheels. Amazing wheels at that.

You're right, like I said it wouldn't normally bother me, just seemed a bit off when it happened after 10-15 minutes only skating down the street! Never happened to any wheels I had before, I'd normally expect a bit more wear before this sort of thing. I guess London has a lot to answer for tbh!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: LennyDLXSF on April 24, 2015, 07:31:12 AM
I wouldn't normally bother with this, but I recently got some 52mm Luan Conical F4's, only skated to the shops on them twice and they chunked on me already and that really doesn't seem right to me. The last set of F4's I had were great and lasted months. I live in London, UK though and not quite sure who is best to contact with this? Any help much appreciated!
I see what your saying, but man, skate down a hill and do some reverts and or over some tight packed cobbles stones, "problem"solved. We got rough ground in Canada and shitty sidewalks too and every set of wheels i ride does this(usually in the first few days) and the performance is NOT effected. No sense wasting a perfectly good set of new wheels. Amazing wheels at that.

You're right, like I said it wouldn't normally bother me, just seemed a bit off when it happened after 10-15 minutes only skating down the street! Never happened to any wheels I had before, I'd normally expect a bit more wear before this sort of thing. I guess London has a lot to answer for tbh!

Check your PM's.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 144p on April 24, 2015, 07:31:48 AM
Minor chipping like that might be normal with a hard edged wheel.
In A day or two it will be gone.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on April 24, 2015, 08:15:26 AM
similar thing happened to my current set, not a chunk missing but a micro flat spot right on the edge i figured its just from conicals/conical fulls being a squarer wheel.

Like everyone else is saying, do a couple powerslides or something and it'll be gone
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: shotformeat on April 24, 2015, 08:32:49 AM
Man, those guys at DLXSF are seriously the best! They said it was definitely a defect and are sending out a new set. It's good to know they've got your back and that their guarantee actually means something. I'll always back their product, it's good to know they'll back it up too.  
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: saltusnaut on April 25, 2015, 01:10:11 PM
Both my conicals and my classic f4 have little chunks missing. The conicals chipped first session on them. I really don't feel it when riding tho. I was bummed at first but since it doesn't seem to affect the performance I just kept skating them. My classic shaped f4 didn't chip until I powerslid over some screws in my local indoor park. So to me it seems the conicals are more prone to chipping.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Noble Experiment on April 25, 2015, 01:30:26 PM
Funny that I'm seeing lot of complaints about chunks missing from wheels, that shit actually happened to me on a set of STFs I'm currently riding. The F4s I had were getting worn down too small for my tastes, so I set up a set of old but still in good condition STFs I had lying around, that I've maybe used for only a month and a half previously before switching them out. After the second session with them again I look at one of my wheels and notice this:
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You probably can't tell from the angle of the picture but the chunk actually goes pretty deep in.
Gonna try to contact skateone soon about it. Though I heard their customer service is hit or miss compared to DLXs.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 26, 2015, 01:18:38 AM
Funny that I'm seeing lot of complaints about chunks missing from wheels, that shit actually happened to me on a set of STFs I'm currently riding. The F4s I had were getting worn down too small for my tastes, so I set up a set of old but still in good condition STFs I had lying around, that I've maybe used for only a month and a half previously before switching them out. After the second session with them again I look at one of my wheels and notice this:
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You probably can't tell from the angle of the picture but the chunk actually goes pretty deep in.
Gonna try to contact skateone soon about it. Though I heard their customer service is hit or miss compared to DLXs.

You people need to understand that wheels are rolling in the ground, a ground that is not clean or smooth! There is small stones, glasses, irregular paviment (etc...) that can fuck your wheels. That doesnt mean it is a defect. The other day i was skating this Haze wheels, doing some lipslides, then i hear that sound of a flatspot. I look down to my set up and see that there are chunks missing from my wheels, right in the middle and big ones! I notice later that the marble ledge had a crack and that crack was like a razorblade for the wheels, there was still my missing chunks of wheel. Is not a wheel defect, it's my fault.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Noble Experiment on April 26, 2015, 02:49:34 AM
^^^
I am aware, but I am also aware that something like what happened to my wheel isn't exactly something that is an everyday thing. I probably should've mentioned in my previous post that that chunk happened from running over a little pebble. I've had a few sets of F4s, some other STFs in the past, street burners, and countless other kinds of wheels throughout the years, and I've never had this happen with any other wheel from just running over a pebble, let alone anything like that happen ever, til now that is. So you can see why I was a bit taken back by that when I saw it. And like I said, you can't really tell by the photo, but it's a pretty big and deep chunk missing. A decent wheel should not have chunks missing from just running over pebbles.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Nacnud on April 26, 2015, 03:02:56 AM
^^^
I am aware, but I am also aware that something like what happened to my wheel isn't exactly something that is an everyday thing. I probably should've mentioned in my previous post that that chunk happened from running over a little pebble. I've had a few sets of F4s, some other STFs in the past, street burners, and countless other kinds of wheels throughout the years, and I've never had this happen with any other wheel from just running over a pebble, let alone anything like that happen ever, til now that is. So you can see why I was a bit taken back by that when I saw it. And like I said, you can't really tell by the photo, but it's a pretty big and deep chunk missing. A decent wheel should not have chunks missing from just running over pebbles.
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That is one old wheel. No need to complain about a chunk missing. It has no relation to the riding surface. Just keep on pushing through IT!!!!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fangen on April 26, 2015, 03:39:34 AM
Do you guys take boards back to the shop expecting a replacement if it chips in the first fortnight? Like, "hey man, I bought this board a few weeks back and it already is chipped. It's like a newish board and I was thinking that you need to replace it, it must be like defective or something. I'd get free grip with the replacement right?"
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Noble Experiment on April 26, 2015, 04:48:22 AM
Hah, I find it funny that a good number of you are bashing on this and saying suck it up, while in other threads, like the skate superstitions threads that have been made, I see a lot of you write about how you can't skate a board if it's a millimeter off or if the top ply is a certain color, so you'll replace it, or how if your griptape chunks out at the edges too much or gets too dirty you'll peel it off and replace it, etc. If there are people who are bothered by things as trivial as that, then I'm guessing something like a big chunk missing from a wheel would be enough to bother a good number of people on here, despite all the "who cares just deal with it" responses that have been given. You don't think you care, until it happens to you and everytime youre looking at your board you just see that chunk staring back at you. Skateboarding breeds certain types of neuroticism, especially those pertaining to your gear, so I can understand all the other replies on here about chunks missing from wheels, and all the other replies in other threads about not being able to skate a certain griptape, a deck because of the top ply color, etc.
And a chunk like that would just get bigger and bigger over time. What happens as you keep riding on it and run over more pebbles and rough asphalt skating around? It opens it up more and makes the chunk bigger over time, which can effect the overall quality of the wheel.
But whatever, I already know this post is just gonna keep getting the same "dude, just deal with it" responses, so keep em coming!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fangen on April 26, 2015, 05:47:40 AM
Hah, I find it funny that a good number of you are bashing on this and saying suck it up, while in other threads, like the skate superstitions threads that have been made, I see a lot of you write about how you can't skate a board if it's a millimeter off or if the top ply is a certain color, so you'll replace it, or how if your griptape chunks out at the edges too much or gets too dirty you'll peel it off and replace it, etc. If there are people who are bothered by things as trivial as that, then I'm guessing something like a big chunk missing from a wheel would be enough to bother a good number of people on here, despite all the "who cares just deal with it" responses that have been given. You don't think you care, until it happens to you and everytime youre looking at your board you just see that chunk staring back at you. Skateboarding breeds certain types of neuroticism, especially those pertaining to your gear, so I can understand all the other replies on here about chunks missing from wheels, and all the other replies in other threads about not being able to skate a certain griptape, a deck because of the top ply color, etc.
And a chunk like that would just get bigger and bigger over time. What happens as you keep riding on it and run over more pebbles and rough asphalt skating around? It opens it up more and makes the chunk bigger over time, which can effect the overall quality of the wheel.
But whatever, I already know this post is just gonna keep getting the same "dude, just deal with it" responses, so keep em coming!

My last set of wheels(picture) had a pellet sized hard plastic chunk in them that eventually tore out. It didn't effect how they skated. And I think that board superstitions/gripes are tells of a weak mind.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: timv on April 26, 2015, 06:29:42 AM
I've ridden  4 sets of formula fours now and all have chipped/chunked and gotten torn on edges somewhat easily.

I did return one set and got them replaced but I'm on to trying new wheels.
All were 99A 3 sets of classic shape and one set of conicals, 51mm-54mm.

Right now I'm skating a set of these autobahn's:   http://autobahnwheelshop.com/collect...dual-duro-100a (http://autobahnwheelshop.com/collect...dual-duro-100a)

They are fast and grippy and feel really good to me. I've been on them for a couple weeks now and really don't feel a need to try anything else right now. The edges aren't getting torn up or chipping, I like the sidecut shape so am happy right now.
They seem to be holding up well.

I've had bones SPF's and STF's, the SPF's were way too hard, the STF's were still a bit hard and slid a bit too easily for me, they seemed to hold up well though.

I tried wrecks also but they were noticeably slower and really grippy, almost too grippy for me.

The park I go to in the morning on my way to work is a prefab type park so has some exposed metal edges etc which I am sure cause some of my wheel damage but the F4's seem to get torn up much quicker than the others so it's not just the park.

DLX does stand behind their product though and were very cool to work with on getting my set replaced.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 26, 2015, 06:53:47 AM
Hah, I find it funny that a good number of you are bashing on this and saying suck it up, while in other threads, like the skate superstitions threads that have been made, I see a lot of you write about how you can't skate a board if it's a millimeter off or if the top ply is a certain color, so you'll replace it, or how if your griptape chunks out at the edges too much or gets too dirty you'll peel it off and replace it, etc. If there are people who are bothered by things as trivial as that, then I'm guessing something like a big chunk missing from a wheel would be enough to bother a good number of people on here, despite all the "who cares just deal with it" responses that have been given. You don't think you care, until it happens to you and everytime youre looking at your board you just see that chunk staring back at you. Skateboarding breeds certain types of neuroticism, especially those pertaining to your gear, so I can understand all the other replies on here about chunks missing from wheels, and all the other replies in other threads about not being able to skate a certain griptape, a deck because of the top ply color, etc.
And a chunk like that would just get bigger and bigger over time. What happens as you keep riding on it and run over more pebbles and rough asphalt skating around? It opens it up more and makes the chunk bigger over time, which can effect the overall quality of the wheel.
But whatever, I already know this post is just gonna keep getting the same "dude, just deal with it" responses, so keep em coming!

I'm not bashing you... I feel bummed too when shit like this happens! I've had some decent sized flatspots because of peebles and chunks missing before, maybe because of small glasses. It doesn't get bigger, they desappear after some time. I hate a chipped deck with all my forces too but i'm not that rich to buy a new deck just because of it, i have to go thru with it!
I guess i'm a little jealous of the costumer service you have in the US because i've had to deal with some serious quality issues before (delaminated decks, slipping axels, unglued shoes, etc), things that really affect my skating and are not my fault, and all the shops said was basicaly"fuck off, it's not our fault too".  :-\
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 144p on April 26, 2015, 08:09:11 AM
Hah, I find it funny that a good number of you are bashing on this and saying suck it up, while in other threads, like the skate superstitions threads that have been made, I see a lot of you write about how you can't skate a board if it's a millimeter off or if the top ply is a certain color, so you'll replace it, or how if your griptape chunks out at the edges too much or gets too dirty you'll peel it off and replace it, etc. If there are people who are bothered by things as trivial as that, then I'm guessing something like a big chunk missing from a wheel would be enough to bother a good number of people on here, despite all the "who cares just deal with it" responses that have been given. You don't think you care, until it happens to you and everytime youre looking at your board you just see that chunk staring back at you. Skateboarding breeds certain types of neuroticism, especially those pertaining to your gear, so I can understand all the other replies on here about chunks missing from wheels, and all the other replies in other threads about not being able to skate a certain griptape, a deck because of the top ply color, etc.
And a chunk like that would just get bigger and bigger over time. What happens as you keep riding on it and run over more pebbles and rough asphalt skating around? It opens it up more and makes the chunk bigger over time, which can effect the overall quality of the wheel.
But whatever, I already know this post is just gonna keep getting the same "dude, just deal with it" responses, so keep em coming!

Having posted in this topic since it's inception, I've seen a few questionable claims of faulty product where it almost seems like theyre just trying to get something for free. In hindsight I was off base for assuming that. My wheels have chipped similarly but like others have said, it happens with every brand and usually doesn't affect the ride.
But as expected, deluxe handles every claim with no questions asked.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on April 30, 2015, 10:17:48 AM
I'd love a slimmer conical cut. Just sayin' :P
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: BMCsteve on April 30, 2015, 01:38:43 PM
I'd love a slimmer conical cut. Just sayin' :P

Second this
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: iwshilvdnfinland on April 30, 2015, 11:55:31 PM
I'd love a slimmer conical cut. Just sayin' :P

Second this

yes, yes, yes
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on May 03, 2015, 10:53:45 AM
Rode a set of the radials today, 52mm, really nice all around wheel...still wider than I'd like but that slide. Sooooo nice.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Kitto Horsley on May 12, 2015, 03:54:55 PM
How slippy are the 101's? Can't decide between Conical fulls in 99d or 101d. Any help appreciated.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Spitfire4life on May 12, 2015, 03:58:16 PM
How slippy are the 101's? Can't decide between Conical fulls in 99d or 101d. Any help appreciated.
The conical fulls in 101a are the perfect combo imo. The regular 101's are a little slick at time, but the extra width helps with that a lot. I feel like the 99's in the conical shape would be a little too hard to slide.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on May 12, 2015, 04:01:15 PM
How slippy are the 101's? Can't decide between Conical fulls in 99d or 101d. Any help appreciated.
The conical fulls in 101a are the perfect combo imo. The regular 101's are a little slick at time, but the extra width helps with that a lot. I feel like the 99's in the conical shape would be a little too hard to slide.

i've had a set of 99 conical fulls since they came out and at first, yes they were a little difficult to get a nice slide out of them, but after a week or so they felt great.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Kitto Horsley on May 12, 2015, 04:16:26 PM
How slippy are the 101's? Can't decide between Conical fulls in 99d or 101d. Any help appreciated.
The conical fulls in 101a are the perfect combo imo. The regular 101's are a little slick at time, but the extra width helps with that a lot. I feel like the 99's in the conical shape would be a little too hard to slide.

i've had a set of 99 conical fulls since they came out and at first, yes they were a little difficult to get a nice slide out of them, but after a week or so they felt great.

So feel you can slide on them pretty easily after that first week.  I was all set on getting the 101's but then had a sudden panic i'd be slipping and sliding all over the place when i go and skate a park, D.I.Y etc.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Dengles on May 12, 2015, 04:20:44 PM
How slippy are the 101's? Can't decide between Conical fulls in 99d or 101d. Any help appreciated.
The conical fulls in 101a are the perfect combo imo. The regular 101's are a little slick at time, but the extra width helps with that a lot. I feel like the 99's in the conical shape would be a little too hard to slide.

i've had a set of 99 conical fulls since they came out and at first, yes they were a little difficult to get a nice slide out of them, but after a week or so they felt great.

So feel you can slide on them pretty easily after that first week.  I was all set on getting the 101's but then had a sudden panic i'd be slipping and sliding all over the place when i go and skate a park, D.I.Y etc.
I've had two sets of 101s now, they've been amazing on the streets perfect power slides all the fun stuff, but they feel a little icy in some parks.  They're old now so they're fine in most concrete parks, a little sketchy but no big deal.  The only place I wish I had the 99s is this one DIY spot where the concrete is like garage floor material and I slip out and feel like I'm going to constantly eat shit on.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on May 12, 2015, 04:24:25 PM
How slippy are the 101's? Can't decide between Conical fulls in 99d or 101d. Any help appreciated.
The conical fulls in 101a are the perfect combo imo. The regular 101's are a little slick at time, but the extra width helps with that a lot. I feel like the 99's in the conical shape would be a little too hard to slide.

i've had a set of 99 conical fulls since they came out and at first, yes they were a little difficult to get a nice slide out of them, but after a week or so they felt great.

So feel you can slide on them pretty easily after that first week.  I was all set on getting the 101's but then had a sudden panic i'd be slipping and sliding all over the place when i go and skate a park, D.I.Y etc.

Yeah a week to break them in and they're set for me, there is a lot of smooth roads/sidewalks where i live though, so 101s would probably see me end up on my ass if i were to try them
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: N.L. on May 12, 2015, 05:17:25 PM
I've had no problem sliding the 99s on rough or smooth surfaces, even in the full conical shape but I've been tempted by the 101s just to compare them. How do the 101s compare to an STF slide?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on May 12, 2015, 05:41:13 PM
I was riding the 101a radials at the Venice park this weekend primarily in the Snake Run (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ5RpPLFtZ8,) they were really icy in there, more than a few times at speed they broke free; it's a slick as fuck park, the glare alone of the surface will blind you., 54 might be a sweet spot there).

Most people were rocking larger SPFs, I'd be more worried about them breaking free over the spits.

Next time I'm putting on some 99a F4s/ricta or type-s for a bit more grip (and speed, I had to work to get those 52s humming). FWIW the radials roughly the same width as the 54mm Conicals. Radials are wider with a smaller rider surface.

The slide of the 101 F4s are unmatched imo, fantastic wheels for street in any shape; 99a would probably work out well for slick parks/wood.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 144p on May 12, 2015, 09:44:52 PM
Having skated 99's and 101s in classic, classic full, radial and conical full I can say the 101 conical full slides very similar to classic 99s with a louder screech slide. Up in washington state the parks arent quite as dusty as so cal parks are so the slickness there is un matched. When I went to visit last year I was skating classic 99's and almost died at Stoner and all the other places we went.
Conical full 101's are my wheel of choice for all terrains, just the right amount of grip and slide.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Kitto Horsley on May 13, 2015, 03:11:24 AM
Thank you everyone for help.  Sorry to keep asking wustions on whats probably already a well disscussed topic but...currently riding the SML wide shape do either of the duros feel like that? Looking for something a little slicker that, only a little though.  Like i said sorry for so many questions but being a broke student means that if i get something thats not right i have to suck it and deal with so i'd rather just buy the wheels that suit what i want in the first place.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on May 13, 2015, 09:09:06 AM
Thank you everyone for help.  Sorry to keep asking wustions on whats probably already a well disscussed topic but...currently riding the SML wide shape do either of the duros feel like that? Looking for something a little slicker that, only a little though.  Like i said sorry for so many questions but being a broke student means that if i get something thats not right i have to suck it and deal with so i'd rather just buy the wheels that suit what i want in the first place.

I rode a set of .sml wheels recently, slim shape and they were too grippy for me (tho many on the forum find them slick), they felt grippy like Autobahns; duro-wise they are hard but don't feel like spits at all.

F4s I've ridden:

101 classics (sold them)
99 classics (still have them)
101 conical full (lost these thinking I put my board in my car...didn't...I know stupid)
101 conical (setup on an 8.6)
101 radials (riding now)

I'd say it's up to the terrain and what you like to do. Conical Fulls are WIIIIIDE wheels, I felt I could get by on Conicals, which is true as they are still wide.

In fact, ALL F4s are pretty wide wheels compared to other wheels out there (STF V1/2/3, Ricta).

Pick up the 101s after you decide on shape and height. Also know that the smaller the wheel the skinnier (albeit a small amount) it gets, and vice versa going taller.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: slapshakle on May 16, 2015, 02:41:05 AM
These held up pretty well considering how fast and far a car dragged my board down the road.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/slapshakle/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-05-05-18-01-52_zpsxvjreqvp.png) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/slapshakle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-05-05-18-01-52_zpsxvjreqvp.png.html)

Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on May 16, 2015, 03:58:25 AM
These held up pretty well considering how fast and far a car dragged my board down the road.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/slapshakle/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-05-05-18-01-52_zpsxvjreqvp.png) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/slapshakle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-05-05-18-01-52_zpsxvjreqvp.png.html)



Dont be a pussy. 2 or 3 sessions and they are good to go again! :v
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on May 16, 2015, 10:16:32 AM
Yeah, ride that shit out!


(that sucks dude - hope you've a backup set?)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: art hellman on June 10, 2015, 07:21:33 AM
been skating the radials recently and really digging them.  just set aside the 99a's  for the moment and going to give the 101a's a try as I've been in a lipslidin' ledges mood.  gonna save the 99a for when it's time to head indoors again.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 144p on June 10, 2015, 07:30:41 AM
Yeah same, last 101's i had felt way too slick but the set i am on now feel grippy enough.
99s are perfect for the indoor here.
 
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: art hellman on June 10, 2015, 07:34:37 AM
yeah, that was my experience skating the 101a's when the F4s just came out... but feel like giving them a try again for the summer.  

the 99a's are definitely the best wheel i've skated for slippery stuff, especially indoors.


EDIT:  put the 99a back on.  the 101 are just too slick for my skating.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: tanginacat on June 19, 2015, 09:50:42 AM
thoughts on those luan f4's? slidy enough for street but got control on icy surfaces?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: LennyDLXSF on June 19, 2015, 10:45:33 AM
I'll just leave this here for all you 'thin' wheel dudes..

(http://i.imgur.com/ZpGZFtf.png)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on June 19, 2015, 11:13:20 AM
OHSNAP!

When the F4s hit with this shape?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: LennyDLXSF on June 19, 2015, 11:30:05 AM
OHSNAP!

When the F4s hit with this shape?

They are available now! Tell your shop to order em'!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Noble Experiment on June 19, 2015, 10:03:55 PM
^^^^
Fuuuck, I wanted some new wheels but wanted a real thin wheel that was on the harder side, so I bought a set of v3 STFs just earlier today. If I would've known that you guys were coming out with a thin shaped F4 I would've held out til a set came to my shop.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on June 19, 2015, 10:07:19 PM
Are those F4? ive seen them listed as just normal pro editions, and theres no mention of it onthe wheel
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on June 20, 2015, 12:00:56 PM
Are those F4? ive seen them listed as just normal pro editions, and theres no mention of it onthe wheel

That's what I asked:

OHSNAP!

When the F4s hit with this shape?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 144p on June 20, 2015, 08:40:41 PM
They're not f4's.
I searched the pdf and so far they don't make any f4's in classic thin.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: JD on June 20, 2015, 11:11:42 PM
Just bought a set of 101 duros today after riding STFs for nearly 5 years now, definitely feels a lot less "plasticy" then STFs. So far loving them!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on June 21, 2015, 06:24:52 PM
They're not f4's.
I searched the pdf and so far they don't make any f4's in classic thin.

We'll just have to wait...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: tanginacat on June 21, 2015, 07:22:38 PM
@Xen how are the regular conicals compared to the full ones? planning to buy one
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: LennyDLXSF on June 22, 2015, 07:32:47 AM
They're not f4's.
I searched the pdf and so far they don't make any f4's in classic thin.

The F4 version is in development, and will be available soon!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on June 22, 2015, 04:32:02 PM
@Xen how are the regular conicals compared to the full ones? planning to buy one

The Fulls are wiiiiide as hell, I felt them too wide. Conicals are a great size (if a bit too wide for me still).

I guess it would depends on what you are skating them on? I couldn't really see a need for the Fulls over the regular conicals honestly.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: N.L. on June 22, 2015, 05:21:29 PM
I might be in a minority here but I prefer the slip to grip ratio of the conical wides 99s over the classic 99s on all terrain.  Hope to try some Radials soon.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on June 22, 2015, 05:54:21 PM
Radials are my favorite shape by far (just wish they were thinner).

Spits are pretty wide wheels, even the classics.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Julz on June 22, 2015, 06:16:06 PM
Woohoo !!! I just got myself a set of 52's full conical wheels.

(http://s15.postimg.org/jr7d3u9tn/IMG_1268.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: tanginacat on June 22, 2015, 07:32:41 PM
@Xen how are the regular conicals compared to the full ones? planning to buy one

The Fulls are wiiiiide as hell, I felt them too wide. Conicals are a great size (if a bit too wide for me still).

I guess it would depends on what you are skating them on? I couldn't really see a need for the Fulls over the regular conicals honestly.

sickk thanks! i made up my mind now, i skate mostly street and some spot with icy floors so i figured i need some lil bit control ricta brandon westgates are okayyy but i feel like still a bit slidy but better than bones on icy surfaces.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on June 23, 2015, 09:42:03 AM
@Xen how are the regular conicals compared to the full ones? planning to buy one

The Fulls are wiiiiide as hell, I felt them too wide. Conicals are a great size (if a bit too wide for me still).

I guess it would depends on what you are skating them on? I couldn't really see a need for the Fulls over the regular conicals honestly.

sickk thanks! i made up my mind now, i skate mostly street and some spot with icy floors so i figured i need some lil bit control ricta brandon westgates are okayyy but i feel like still a bit slidy but better than bones on icy surfaces.

If you skate icy floors, the 99s are going to be your best bet (and rough streets). I'm riding the Ricta NRGs (Sandovals) and find them perfect, just a tad grippier than F4s but thinner.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: mex.ceferino on June 24, 2015, 02:22:39 PM
F4's 5 months of use
once 54mm classics 101 duro, now they're 40 something and tablets
never had a problem and still roll smooth
f4's rule
(http://i57.tinypic.com/34y8igg.jpg)
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2vmisky.jpg)
third set ten months later same size shape etc, these held longer and didnt get as small
i <3 spitfire
(http://s29.postimg.org/bbl40yxar/IMG_5882.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/bbl40yxar/)(http://s13.postimg.org/e1osd6do3/IMG_5881.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/e1osd6do3/)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: tanginacat on June 24, 2015, 03:44:46 PM
@Xen how are the regular conicals compared to the full ones? planning to buy one

The Fulls are wiiiiide as hell, I felt them too wide. Conicals are a great size (if a bit too wide for me still).

I guess it would depends on what you are skating them on? I couldn't really see a need for the Fulls over the regular conicals honestly.

sickk thanks! i made up my mind now, i skate mostly street and some spot with icy floors so i figured i need some lil bit control ricta brandon westgates are okayyy but i feel like still a bit slidy but better than bones on icy surfaces.

If you skate icy floors, the 99s are going to be your best bet (and rough streets). I'm riding the Ricta NRGs (Sandovals) and find them perfect, just a tad grippier than F4s but thinner.

yes best wheeels for sure dude! i got the luan conicals. never going back to thin wheels again i was skating the ricta nrg's brandon westgate before the spits <3 the control is crazy on these wheels slide to grip ratio is trueee

now im curios about the 101conical fulls how is it compared to regular conicals 99 duro? 99duro conicals are slidy enough for me on street and parks just curios about 101's and ive seen fask8fucks/supreme kids rockin the conicals peep the "SICKNESS" vid correct me if im wrong tho those look some conical fulls and regular conicals to me
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: sharkin on June 26, 2015, 09:11:51 PM
Set up my new board tonight with 52mm conical fulls in the 101a duro

These wheels are sick as hell. It's almost weird how easy it is to control the slide, different than anything i've ridden before.

Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 2thick on June 27, 2015, 06:32:42 PM
Set up my new board tonight with 52mm conical fulls in the 101a duro

These wheels are sick as hell. It's almost weird how easy it is to control the slide, different than anything i've ridden before.


Yo HB fam welcome to Slap
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on June 27, 2015, 06:42:24 PM
Spitfire is fucking garbage, dont believe the hype. It took them 20 years to build a wheel that might not flatspot, yet they still don't have any guarantees? Don't support those scumbags

Look back in the earlier pages so many flatspots and problems. Get bones, darkstars or wrecks

Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Randozzi on June 27, 2015, 06:58:26 PM
shut up you Val kook.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on June 27, 2015, 07:10:19 PM
It's basically just company men and trend hoppers bumping this thread. Everyone knows Bones and Wreck makes great wheels, so a 40 page thread isn't necessary for them.

Look
Back
At
Earlier
Pages

They flatspot
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Wizard Fight on June 27, 2015, 07:15:08 PM
darkstar
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on June 28, 2015, 04:38:52 PM
darkstar

Truth be told, I rode a set, back with the first Tensors (with the slider) they were hard and didn't flatspot :\

Zero board, tensors and darkstars buwhahahahhaha
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on August 04, 2015, 02:53:14 PM
I'll just leave this here for all you 'thin' wheel dudes..

(http://i.imgur.com/ZpGZFtf.png)

Was able to look at these in a shop today, shape is sweet, much like the AB Nexus/Wreck Slim/Skinnier Bones V2. I'll bite once the F4s roll out!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: BMCsteve on August 04, 2015, 03:11:37 PM
I'll just leave this here for all you 'thin' wheel dudes..

(http://i.imgur.com/ZpGZFtf.png)

Was able to look at these in a shop today, shape is sweet, much like the AB Nexus/Wreck Slim/Skinnier Bones V2. I'll bite once the F4s roll out!

Same here!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on August 05, 2015, 12:51:27 AM
I skate in rougher asphalt and stop with powerslides. I wanted to know if you recommend that I go with 99 or 101 duro wheels and what would be a better shape. I currently skate the 99 Classic shape.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: BMCsteve on August 05, 2015, 04:23:26 AM
I skate in rougher asphalt and stop with powerslides. I wanted to know if you recommend that I go with 99 or 101 duro wheels and what would be a better shape. I currently skate the 99 Classic shape.

I've only skated the 99a Conicals (to much grip for me), 99a Classics (perfect for park) and 101 Classics (slippery in some parks and a little rough on the street) but it seems like the 101 Conicals would be perfect for what you need.  They'll be a little rough but if you powerslide alot, they will be hard to flat spot and will offer you a lot of control
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: tanginacat on August 05, 2015, 07:15:56 AM
I skate in rougher asphalt and stop with powerslides. I wanted to know if you recommend that I go with 99 or 101 duro wheels and what would be a better shape. I currently skate the 99 Classic shape.

I've only skated the 99a Conicals (to much grip for me), 99a Classics (perfect for park) and 101 Classics (slippery in some parks and a little rough on the street) but it seems like the 101 Conicals would be perfect for what you need.  They'll be a little rough but if you powerslide alot, they will be hard to flat spot and will offer you a lot of control

i skate roughs 99a's are pretty chill you could still slide but a lil tiny bit grippy works for me but 101's for sure are better on streets
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on August 05, 2015, 09:11:10 AM
99a/101a Radials!  :o
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on August 05, 2015, 10:51:20 AM
Thank you for the advice.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on August 05, 2015, 11:12:33 AM
99a will feel better travelling on rough asphalt, but not by much. Remember, we're only talking 2 levels of duro here 99, 100, 101 - the real difference is the grip, which I assume is more based around the formula than the duro as the 99s still slide great.

Radials are the hybrid shape, not so round as the classics and not so square as the conicals, it's as if they took the classic shape wore it down and  rounded the lip.

Still wish they were thinner ;)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on August 05, 2015, 11:18:56 AM
99a will feel better travelling on rough asphalt, but not by much. Remember, we're only talking 2 levels of duro here 99, 100, 101 - the real difference is the grip, which I assume is more based around the formula than the duro as the 99s still slide great.

Radials are the hybrid shape, not so round as the classics and not so square as the conicals, it's as if they took the classic shape wore it down and  rounded the lip.

Still wish they were thinner ;)

I can only imagine how good the powerslides will feel on those. Now I need tissues
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: CHANCHO on August 14, 2015, 11:43:33 AM
switched from crusty hand me down bones SPF wheels to 54mm 99 blue conicals and let me tell you those boys at spitfire are on to something.

smooth ride, feel great on street.  Its hard to describe but I prefer these wheels outside the park.  Very fast, very smooth but not in a cruiser wheel soft sort of way.  Nice lock in too, almost hung up lapping over on a smith.  A littttttle bit slippery in the dusty ass park compared to spf but that slide and scroitch  :o  I could also see how chipping could potentially be a problem but i'll report back later
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Hannity on August 14, 2015, 02:42:05 PM
i picked up the conical full 58mm formula 4s since i always figure why not get the biggest wheel for your money. they are wide as fuck. and i'm gonna need to dig out my 1/8" riser pads that i haven't used since my first set-up.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Spitfire4life on August 14, 2015, 09:22:08 PM
Some classic shape 99a's in 55mm need to happen. I'd ride the fuck out of those.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on August 15, 2015, 09:36:08 AM
Some classic shape 99a's in 55mm need to happen. I'd ride the fuck out of those.

Just get 56 or 54?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: FROST YOUR TIPS on August 16, 2015, 02:00:25 PM
riding 52's in the 99 duros and loving the shit outta them
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Willie on August 16, 2015, 06:00:18 PM
Some classic shape 99a's in 55mm need to happen. I'd ride the fuck out of those.


That's basically what these are, only .5mm bigger: http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=47569 (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=47569)


Go bomb a hill and power slide a bunch and they are 55s.


I'm riding them right now. Nice wheels.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: slapshakle on August 16, 2015, 06:58:24 PM
Shout out to Reed @ DLX. Cheers man!

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/slapshakle/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150817_102619_zps5z7g46vo.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on August 16, 2015, 07:31:39 PM
Some classic shape 99a's in 55mm need to happen. I'd ride the fuck out of those.


That's basically what these are, only .5mm bigger: http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=47569 (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=47569)


Go bomb a hill and power slide a bunch and they are 55s.


I'm riding them right now. Nice wheels.


or


http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=59545 (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=59545)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Julz on August 17, 2015, 04:01:10 PM
After a month of skating the 99A conical full, it's safe to say that, indeed, they are too sticky. Other than that, the wheel is perfect so next time I'll switch it up too 101 A classic full to see how they feel.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on August 17, 2015, 05:47:14 PM
After a month of skating the 99A conical full, it's safe to say that, indeed, they are too sticky. Other than that, the wheel is perfect so next time I'll switch it up too 101 A classic full to see how they feel.

Depending on what size you ride, the difference between conical full and classic full is pretty negligible

http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Julz on August 17, 2015, 06:19:58 PM
After a month of skating the 99A conical full, it's safe to say that, indeed, they are too sticky. Other than that, the wheel is perfect so next time I'll switch it up too 101 A classic full to see how they feel.

Depending on what size you ride, the difference between conical full and classic full is pretty negligible

http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/)

I ride 52s so that means classic full are even wider. I guess I have to try the conical 101a ?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Julz on August 17, 2015, 06:26:33 PM
My main problem is in the tranny section of my local park, we have this tall quarter pipe and I was trying to do reverts on it but I kept getting stuck halfway through the ''trick''... probably my fault but I just like to blame it on something else.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_AEr_jrRJByQ/S9tceCZMxLI/AAAAAAAAAHA/GFU6q7ckeCs/s1600/Sktpark+flamengo4+copy.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on August 17, 2015, 07:00:51 PM
After a month of skating the 99A conical full, it's safe to say that, indeed, they are too sticky. Other than that, the wheel is perfect so next time I'll switch it up too 101 A classic full to see how they feel.

Depending on what size you ride, the difference between conical full and classic full is pretty negligible

http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/)

I ride 52s so that means classic full are even wider. I guess I have to try the conical 101a ?

If .5 mm is going to fuck your ocd, yes, conicals in 101a ;) otherwise, the slide quality of the 101a vs the 99s is significant a wider 101a will slide better than a narrower 99a (within a few mm), at least that's what it felt like to me.

Is that 1/4p slick (doesn't look it)? I was doing alleyoop/cess slides with 101s in a bowl, 99a I struggled with them (doable but too much more effort).

What's bizarre is after riding V5 STFs, which I flatspotted, I find them a nice middle ground between the 99a and 101a spits and they are nearly identical to the spit classic shape.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Julz on August 17, 2015, 07:56:02 PM
After a month of skating the 99A conical full, it's safe to say that, indeed, they are too sticky. Other than that, the wheel is perfect so next time I'll switch it up too 101 A classic full to see how they feel.

Depending on what size you ride, the difference between conical full and classic full is pretty negligible

http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/)

I ride 52s so that means classic full are even wider. I guess I have to try the conical 101a ?

If .5 mm is going to fuck your ocd, yes, conicals in 101a ;) otherwise, the slide quality of the 101a vs the 99s is significant a wider 101a will slide better than a narrower 99a (within a few mm), at least that's what it felt like to me.

Is that 1/4p slick (doesn't look it)? I was doing alleyoop/cess slides with 101s in a bowl, 99a I struggled with them (doable but too much more effort).

What's bizarre is after riding V5 STFs, which I flatspotted, I find them a nice middle ground between the 99a and 101a spits and they are nearly identical to the spit classic shape.

I'm not OCD at all, I just like wider wheels mostly because I live in a city that has the shittiest ground so wide wheels offer a smoother ride.

The 1/4 feels like pretty much every other concrete park I've skated. I'm new in this city so it's the first set of wheels that I skate at that park so I really compare with other brands. That being said, I've been riding polar wheels (creative urethane) for the past 2 years, and doing reverts on concrete tranny we're easier than with the F4s.

Again, I'm just being hard on spitfire, the wheels are all around great and I would recommend them to anyone. But, if you're going to claim to have reinvented the wheel, I will be a tougher critic.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on August 18, 2015, 02:00:14 AM
After a month of skating the 99A conical full, it's safe to say that, indeed, they are too sticky. Other than that, the wheel is perfect so next time I'll switch it up too 101 A classic full to see how they feel.

Depending on what size you ride, the difference between conical full and classic full is pretty negligible

http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/)

I ride 52s so that means classic full are even wider. I guess I have to try the conical 101a ?

If .5 mm is going to fuck your ocd, yes, conicals in 101a ;) otherwise, the slide quality of the 101a vs the 99s is significant a wider 101a will slide better than a narrower 99a (within a few mm), at least that's what it felt like to me.

Is that 1/4p slick (doesn't look it)? I was doing alleyoop/cess slides with 101s in a bowl, 99a I struggled with them (doable but too much more effort).

What's bizarre is after riding V5 STFs, which I flatspotted, I find them a nice middle ground between the 99a and 101a spits and they are nearly identical to the spit classic shape.

I'm not OCD at all, I just like wider wheels mostly because I live in a city that has the shittiest ground so wide wheels offer a smoother ride.

The 1/4 feels like pretty much every other concrete park I've skated. I'm new in this city so it's the first set of wheels that I skate at that park so I really compare with other brands. That being said, I've been riding polar wheels (creative urethane) for the past 2 years, and doing reverts on concrete tranny we're easier than with the F4s.

Again, I'm just being hard on spitfire, the wheels are all around great and I would recommend them to anyone. But, if you're going to claim to have reinvented the wheel, I will be a tougher critic.

Do you like those wheels? I gave some to a friend of mine in his birthday and havent saw a wheel burn as fast as those. in 2 months they gone from 52 to 45 and are conning like hell. He's not any pro material and barelly does powerslides...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Julz on August 18, 2015, 05:39:42 AM
After a month of skating the 99A conical full, it's safe to say that, indeed, they are too sticky. Other than that, the wheel is perfect so next time I'll switch it up too 101 A classic full to see how they feel.

Depending on what size you ride, the difference between conical full and classic full is pretty negligible

http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/)

I ride 52s so that means classic full are even wider. I guess I have to try the conical 101a ?

If .5 mm is going to fuck your ocd, yes, conicals in 101a ;) otherwise, the slide quality of the 101a vs the 99s is significant a wider 101a will slide better than a narrower 99a (within a few mm), at least that's what it felt like to me.

Is that 1/4p slick (doesn't look it)? I was doing alleyoop/cess slides with 101s in a bowl, 99a I struggled with them (doable but too much more effort).

What's bizarre is after riding V5 STFs, which I flatspotted, I find them a nice middle ground between the 99a and 101a spits and they are nearly identical to the spit classic shape.

I'm not OCD at all, I just like wider wheels mostly because I live in a city that has the shittiest ground so wide wheels offer a smoother ride.

The 1/4 feels like pretty much every other concrete park I've skated. I'm new in this city so it's the first set of wheels that I skate at that park so I really compare with other brands. That being said, I've been riding polar wheels (creative urethane) for the past 2 years, and doing reverts on concrete tranny we're easier than with the F4s.

Again, I'm just being hard on spitfire, the wheels are all around great and I would recommend them to anyone. But, if you're going to claim to have reinvented the wheel, I will be a tougher critic.

Do you like those wheels? I gave some to a friend of mine in his birthday and havent saw a wheel burn as fast as those. in 2 months they gone from 52 to 45 and are conning like hell. He's not any pro material and barelly does powerslides...

Yeah they did conned and burned quickly, but I was getting them at cost price (16$ compared to 50$ for spits in canada) so I kept buying a new pair every 5-6 months
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Spitfire4life on August 19, 2015, 05:00:58 PM
After a month of skating the 99A conical full, it's safe to say that, indeed, they are too sticky. Other than that, the wheel is perfect so next time I'll switch it up too 101 A classic full to see how they feel.
I have 56mm 101a Conical Fulls, and they slide much better than the 52mm 99a classic shapes I had. The classic shape 101a is way to slippery for me, but the conical fulls in 101 are a perfect ratio of slide to grip. The only think I don't like about them is that because they're wider, I get wheelbite more easily.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: art hellman on August 27, 2015, 08:04:32 AM
are the recent Busenitz F4s just regular classics with his name on them?  or are they special/shaped in some other way?

sub-question:  do guys get money from wheels with their name on them?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on August 27, 2015, 09:13:33 AM
are the recent Busenitz F4s just regular classics with his name on them?  or are they special/shaped in some other way?

sub-question:  do guys get money from wheels with their name on them?

Regular old classics.

One would hope that pros get a royalty on wheels sold with their name on the.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Randozzi on August 28, 2015, 09:25:26 AM
The Donnelly wheels are a different shape, don't remember what it called but the riding surface is wider than the classics but less than the conical. They look pretty nice.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on August 28, 2015, 09:40:33 AM
The Donnelly wheels are a different shape, don't remember what it called but the riding surface is wider than the classics but less than the conical. They look pretty nice.

They're conicals.

http://spitfirewheels.com/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on October 14, 2015, 11:41:30 PM
Lenny, how much longer on the slim radials?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Greg on October 15, 2015, 03:52:26 AM
hands down some of the worst wheels I've ever skated

slides for literally no reason
eliminates ability to make sharp turns
if the ground is wet your wheels turn into butter
miss a 50-50 on a ledge, i dare you

they feel like i have rocks attached to my board
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: LennyDLXSF on October 15, 2015, 07:46:10 AM
Lenny, how much longer on the slim radials?

They are literally just about to go into production!

I'd say maybe a week or two before they are available for shops/distros to purchase, and a week or two after that until they arrive at shops (depending on location obviously).
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: pile on October 15, 2015, 07:55:11 AM
hands down some of the worst wheels I've ever skated

slides for literally no reason
eliminates ability to make sharp turns
if the ground is wet your wheels turn into butter
miss a 50-50 on a ledge, i dare you

they feel like i have rocks attached to my board

what duro were you skating? i definitely slipped out a lot on the 101's, but the 99's have yet to be a problem for me. i switched to the conical full shape as well and i've never looked back.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: BMCsteve on October 15, 2015, 09:09:16 AM
hands down some of the worst wheels I've ever skated

slides for literally no reason
eliminates ability to make sharp turns
if the ground is wet your wheels turn into butter
miss a 50-50 on a ledge, i dare you

they feel like i have rocks attached to my board

101's are slippery in a dusty park but great on the street.  Also, you have to break wheels in before you can really judge them.  They wont be as slippery after a few sessions
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: BMCsteve on October 15, 2015, 09:13:11 AM
Lenny, how much longer on the slim radials?

They are literally just about to go into production!

I'd say maybe a week or two before they are available for shops/distros to purchase, and a week or two after that until they arrive at shops (depending on location obviously).

Beyond hyped on this.  I'll be picking up sets for both of my setups as soon as they come out.  Great call on doing the Radials as a slim first.  Definitely my favorite shape you guys have.  They've always just been a little too wide for me
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: shit_for_brains on October 15, 2015, 09:18:57 AM
Lenny, how much longer on the slim radials?

They are literally just about to go into production!

I'd say maybe a week or two before they are available for shops/distros to purchase, and a week or two after that until they arrive at shops (depending on location obviously).

Beyond hyped on this.  I'll be picking up sets for both of my setups as soon as they come out.  Great call on doing the Radials as a slim first.  Definitely my favorite shape you guys have.  They've always just been a little too wide for me

Hallelujah.

Why did I think it would take more than two weeks to make a bunch of wheels? They don't make them by hand.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fulfillthedream on October 15, 2015, 05:42:55 PM
looks like there already giving people samples of a slimmer version to test;

(http://i62.tinypic.com/sv589w.png)

Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on October 15, 2015, 05:51:03 PM
We have yet to see the profile in a photo. Hopefully they are narrower than classics.

Was hoping for the Daewon shape.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fulfillthedream on October 15, 2015, 06:47:50 PM
We have yet to see the profile in a photo. Hopefully they are narrower than classics.

Was hoping for the Daewon shape.

yeah woulda been nice to see a side view of the wheels
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Paco Supreme on October 15, 2015, 07:11:03 PM
Hey lenny, very small percentage kinda question but any plans for a conical full swirl/full colour in a 53mm?  ;)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Noble Experiment on October 15, 2015, 08:06:21 PM
Been waiting for a slimmer F4 for a while now, can't wait. I'm a big fan of the V3 STFs, so if they're anything similar to that then it'll probably be all I ever buy from now on.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: pussy popper,pot smoker on October 15, 2015, 10:56:14 PM
has there been a formula one?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 4wheels on October 15, 2015, 11:31:06 PM
Been waiting for a slimmer F4 for a while now, can't wait. I'm a big fan of the V3 STFs, so if they're anything similar to that then it'll probably be all I ever buy from now on.
ive been riding the 50mm v3 for about 10 sets. dying to try these out
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: drasp on October 16, 2015, 04:44:08 AM
Been riding 54mm 99a Classic shape F4s & LOVE them. I want to try another F4 variant for another "flavor". Was thinking 101a Conical Fulls for something on the other end of the scale. . . Sounds like more than a few of you finding the extra riding surface compliments the harder compound?
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on October 16, 2015, 06:01:53 AM
Quote from: TOAST-FACE KILLA  link=topic=68020.msg2392930#msg2392930 date=1444974974
has there been a formula one?

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=spitfire%20f1 (https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=spitfire%20f1)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: pussy popper,pot smoker on October 16, 2015, 06:11:53 AM
Quote from: TOAST-FACE KILLA  link=topic=68020.msg2392930#msg2392930 date=1444974974
has there been a formula one?

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=spitfire%20f1 (https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=spitfire%20f1)
lol jokes aside i have a set of busenitz street burners pretty much unskated from like 6 years ago, those fucking sucked, spitfire stepped their game up for sure, still sticking with bones pretty much for the color, spits yellow out faster, better grip though.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 144p on October 16, 2015, 07:52:34 AM
We have yet to see the profile in a photo. Hopefully they are narrower than classics.

Was hoping for the Daewon shape.

yeah woulda been nice to see a side view of the wheels
Got an early set of radial slims.
Side by side with classic cut f4
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/IMG_3255.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/IMG_3256.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: BMCsteve on October 16, 2015, 10:30:06 AM
I'm sold.

Thanks for uploading the profile shots!
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on October 16, 2015, 10:41:04 AM
The riding surface looks wider than the classics.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: art hellman on October 16, 2015, 10:54:06 AM
I'd give those radial slims a try... shape looks good.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on October 16, 2015, 11:03:06 AM
Quote from: TOAST-FACE KILLA  link=topic=68020.msg2392995#msg2392995 date=1445001113
Quote from: TOAST-FACE KILLA  link=topic=68020.msg2392930#msg2392930 date=1444974974
has there been a formula one?

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=spitfire%20f1 (https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=spitfire%20f1)
lol jokes aside i have a set of busenitz street burners pretty much unskated from like 6 years ago, those fucking sucked, spitfire stepped their game up for sure, still sticking with bones pretty much for the color, spits yellow out faster, better grip though.
Fashion over function, I feel you.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Silky Johnson on October 16, 2015, 12:22:10 PM
has there been a formula one?

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=spitfire%20f1 (https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=spitfire%20f1)
lol jokes aside i have a set of busenitz street burners pretty much unskated from like 6 years ago, those fucking sucked, spitfire stepped their game up for sure, still sticking with bones pretty much for the color, spits yellow out faster, better grip though.
I actually prefer a more yellowed wheel beats your wheel looking like it came straight off a Toys R US complete
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: shit_for_brains on October 16, 2015, 01:02:41 PM
The riding surface looks wider than the classics.

I was hoping the slim part they were talking about would be the riding surface. I guess I just can't skate spitfires.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 144p on October 16, 2015, 02:36:07 PM
I feel like the riding surface width on classics gets a few mm wider after a week or two of skating anyways.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: fulfillthedream on October 17, 2015, 04:28:10 AM
Quote from: TOAST-FACE KILLA  link=topic=68020.msg2392995#msg2392995 date=1445001113
Quote from: TOAST-FACE KILLA  link=topic=68020.msg2392930#msg2392930 date=1444974974
has there been a formula one?

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=spitfire%20f1 (https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=spitfire%20f1)
lol jokes aside i have a set of busenitz street burners pretty much unskated from like 6 years ago, those fucking sucked, spitfire stepped their game up for sure, still sticking with bones pretty much for the color, spits yellow out faster, better grip though.

how do you know fucking suck if they are un skated?  ??? ???
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Coconut Lotion on October 17, 2015, 02:22:03 PM
I'm sold.

Thanks for uploading the profile shots!

Yeah next wheel decided for sure
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: drasp on October 17, 2015, 02:26:25 PM
I went ahead & grabbed the 101a Conical Fulls I was asking about. Skated them @ Lakeland (concrete) for a few hours this AM. I'm not good enough to have any really nuanced thoughts, but they managed to be hard, loud & grippy in an awesome way while still allowing me to easily slide when I wanna. Probably too hard for skating my neighborhood streets, but will probably see more park use than my 99a/Classics.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: layzieyez on October 17, 2015, 04:45:27 PM
For a change, I tried out a set of the Ricta Parkburners and flat spotted them from frontside nosesliding a ledge a few times.  I only had those on my board for a month. 

Back to Sptifire F4 and I'm looking out for the radial slims for my next set.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on October 17, 2015, 05:33:46 PM
Wreck>Bones>Autobahn>Spitfire

No 50 page bones thread, because they're good
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Coconut Lotion on October 18, 2015, 05:14:23 AM
What the fuck is wreck
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Silky Johnson on October 18, 2015, 08:22:25 AM
Tracers favorite inline wheel company
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on October 18, 2015, 10:15:55 AM
What the fuck is wreck
Chet Thomas' wheel company. The ruin formula puts spitfire to shame

(https://i.vimeocdn.com/video/491784302_295x166.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: drasp on October 18, 2015, 12:56:26 PM
Wreck>Bones>Autobahn>Spitfire

No 50 page bones thread, because they're good


I must be doing it all wrong. Have literally given away sets of STF & Autobahn after trying F4s. . .
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: imgne on October 18, 2015, 04:53:10 PM
But Wreck wheels don't slide
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: N.L. on October 18, 2015, 06:53:06 PM
This might sound corny but formula fours actually get me motivated to skate. That slip to grip ratio... its addictive man... I'm not straying from these wheels if they stay this consistently good...
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Nancy Chin The Manicurist on October 19, 2015, 12:34:42 AM
What the fuck is wreck
Chet Thomas' wheel company. The ruin formula puts spitfire to shame

(https://i.vimeocdn.com/video/491784302_295x166.jpg)

wait so he runs two wheel companies? Or does Darkstar make only boards now.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 144p on October 19, 2015, 07:35:57 AM
What the fuck is wreck
Chet Thomas' wheel company. The ruin formula puts spitfire to shame

(https://i.vimeocdn.com/video/491784302_295x166.jpg)

wait so he runs two wheel companies? Or does Darkstar make only boards now.
They haven't made wheels for a few years now, just pushed into being a pricepoint complete brand.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: layzieyez on October 19, 2015, 07:00:41 PM
What the fuck is wreck
Chet Thomas' wheel company. The ruin formula puts spitfire to shame

(https://i.vimeocdn.com/video/491784302_295x166.jpg)

wait so he runs two wheel companies? Or does Darkstar make only boards now.
They haven't made wheels for a few years now, just pushed into being a pricepoint complete brand.
Wreck sounds like the same formula used by darkstar but rebranded.
Those shits did not powerslide at all.  I almost died bombing a hill with those fucking wheels in the early 2000's.  I was going pretty fast and went to powerslide to slow down and almost got tossed.  I ended riding the rest of it out, but yeah, fuck wreck if they're anything similar.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Tracer on October 19, 2015, 07:41:22 PM
But Wreck wheels don't slide
They are stickier than bones, but bones are wayyyy too slick. If you need to rely on your wheels sliding you're going the wrong way
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on October 20, 2015, 09:45:34 AM
We have yet to see the profile in a photo. Hopefully they are narrower than classics.

Was hoping for the Daewon shape.

yeah woulda been nice to see a side view of the wheels
Got an early set of radial slims.
Side by side with classic cut f4
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/IMG_3255.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/IMG_3256.jpg)

Thanks for these!

Any chance you can take another photo that is straight on and not at an angle to check the height?

Looks like a wide riding surface and marignally slimmer than the classics (their thinnest wheel outside of the daewon classic slim).

I'll bite but was hoping for something slimmer like a V2/Ricta/AB Nexus.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: 144p on October 20, 2015, 04:47:08 PM
Just set them up so can't really get a better photo.
Also should say the wheels in the pic are classic 54 and radial slims are a 52.
I feel like the radial slim is more like a radial and the regular radial really is a radial full.
Meaning imo the wheel isn't really that slim, but since they dropped a wheel with the name radial already that they had to call it a slim when really it parallels more with the conical and the standard radial more with the conical full.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: layzieyez on October 20, 2015, 04:49:35 PM
I hope they make a 56 in that shape.  I go through wheels too fast with anything smaller.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: sharkin on October 21, 2015, 08:28:22 AM
Nice, gonna grab some 53-55mm radial slim 99a
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: art hellman on October 21, 2015, 08:43:49 AM

Also should say the wheels in the pic are classic 54 and radial slims are a 52.


so, based on the photo...am i seeing this correctly?...the radial slim 52 is almost as wide as a classic 54? 
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: BMCsteve on October 21, 2015, 09:00:16 AM
Just set them up so can't really get a better photo.
Also should say the wheels in the pic are classic 54 and radial slims are a 52.
I feel like the radial slim is more like a radial and the regular radial really is a radial full.
Meaning imo the wheel isn't really that slim, but since they dropped a wheel with the name radial already that they had to call it a slim when really it parallels more with the conical and the standard radial more with the conical full.

Hmm, that's what I was afraid of.  My guess is the Radial "slims" will be the same width as the regular Classics thus making it not an actual slim wheel. 

bummer
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Xen on October 21, 2015, 12:13:45 PM
I knew it!  >:( ::) :'(

Well, here's hoping for the daewon slims in F4.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Esquivel on October 22, 2015, 12:39:32 AM
I am officially interested.

I was a Spitfire supporter for a while, and wanted to keep supporting them super badly, but I just couldn't stand buying a set of wheels and having them flatspot and wear out in the blink of an eye. I've been on the STF bandwagon for a few years now. If these wheels are anywhere near as good as STFs, it will be what I am buying from now on.
Might have to try these out after seeing Josh flat spot STFs haha He did the impossible


i have flatspotted both f-4's and stfs on the first day of skating them. both incidents occured on extremely smooth concrete (the kind of stuff that is layed on warehouse floors), while i was going pretty slow and doing tricks on flat. i am very slim and i have also flatspotted a set of rictas on the same surface.
my opinion on these wheels (formula 4's) is that that they are by far the best wheels. their formula is bouncier than the stf (not softer but bouncier - which makes the wheels faster) and i think they also slide much more. the biggest advantage over the stfs is that the part of the wheel that hugs the bearing does not loosen up. with stfs i have noticed that after a month of use the ring that holds the bearing tight to the wheel loosens up and the wheels starts spinning around the bearing. this is unacceptable and to me its not the spitfires being good, rather its the stfs being terrible. if i skate stfs for a couple of months then i can take the bearings out of the wheels by just tipping the wheel and the bearing falls off! i really dont know why theres is all this hype with stfs. the reason i skate stfs is that they are the only decent wheel i can easily get hold of.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Turtle Boy on October 22, 2015, 01:19:35 AM
I am officially interested.

I was a Spitfire supporter for a while, and wanted to keep supporting them super badly, but I just couldn't stand buying a set of wheels and having them flatspot and wear out in the blink of an eye. I've been on the STF bandwagon for a few years now. If these wheels are anywhere near as good as STFs, it will be what I am buying from now on.
Might have to try these out after seeing Josh flat spot STFs haha He did the impossible


i have flatspotted both f-4's and stfs on the first day of skating them. both incidents occured on extremely smooth concrete (the kind of stuff that is layed on warehouse floors), while i was going pretty slow and doing tricks on flat. i am very slim and i have also flatspotted a set of rictas on the same surface.
my opinion on these wheels (formula 4's) is that that they are by far the best wheels. their formula is bouncier than the stf (not softer but bouncier - which makes the wheels faster) and i think they also slide much more. the biggest advantage over the stfs is that the part of the wheel that hugs the bearing does not loosen up. with stfs i have noticed that after a month of use the ring that holds the bearing tight to the wheel loosens up and the wheels starts spinning around the bearing. this is unacceptable and to me its not the spitfires being good, rather its the stfs being terrible. if i skate stfs for a couple of months then i can take the bearings out of the wheels by just tipping the wheel and the bearing falls off! i really dont know why theres is all this hype with stfs. the reason i skate stfs is that they are the only decent wheel i can easily get hold of.
:D
you must be jocking, I know tons of people that rides STFs or have riden STFs in the past during months and even more than a year for somes and I've never ever heard such a story.
That and your whole text looks like some advertisement for Spitfire, it's just ridiculous
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: commander jameson on October 22, 2015, 02:53:22 AM
I am officially interested.

I was a Spitfire supporter for a while, and wanted to keep supporting them super badly, but I just couldn't stand buying a set of wheels and having them flatspot and wear out in the blink of an eye. I've been on the STF bandwagon for a few years now. If these wheels are anywhere near as good as STFs, it will be what I am buying from now on.
Might have to try these out after seeing Josh flat spot STFs haha He did the impossible


i have flatspotted both f-4's and stfs on the first day of skating them. both incidents occured on extremely smooth concrete (the kind of stuff that is layed on warehouse floors), while i was going pretty slow and doing tricks on flat. i am very slim and i have also flatspotted a set of rictas on the same surface.
my opinion on these wheels (formula 4's) is that that they are by far the best wheels. their formula is bouncier than the stf (not softer but bouncier - which makes the wheels faster) and i think they also slide much more. the biggest advantage over the stfs is that the part of the wheel that hugs the bearing does not loosen up. with stfs i have noticed that after a month of use the ring that holds the bearing tight to the wheel loosens up and the wheels starts spinning around the bearing. this is unacceptable and to me its not the spitfires being good, rather its the stfs being terrible. if i skate stfs for a couple of months then i can take the bearings out of the wheels by just tipping the wheel and the bearing falls off! i really dont know why theres is all this hype with stfs. the reason i skate stfs is that they are the only decent wheel i can easily get hold of.
:D
you must be jocking, I know tons of people that rides STFs or have riden STFs in the past during months and even more than a year for somes and I've never ever heard such a story.
That and your whole text looks like some advertisement for Spitfire, it's just ridiculous

This actually happened to me on several different sets of wheels during the years.
It usually happens when wheels are old and worn out, although it did happened to some lesser quality wheels that were not that old.
Title: Re: Spitfire formula four
Post by: Turtle Boy on October 22, 2015, 03:11:10 AM
I am officially interested.

I was a Spitfire supporter for a while, and wanted to keep supporting them super badly, but I just couldn't stand buying a set of wheels and having them flatspot and wear out in the blink of an eye. I've been on the STF bandwagon for a few years now. If these wheels are anywhere near as good as STFs, it will be what I am buying from now on.
Might have to try these out after seeing Josh flat spot STFs haha He did the impossible


i have flatspotted both f-4's and stfs on the first day of skating them. both incidents occured on extremely smooth concrete (the kind of stuff that is layed on warehouse floors), while i was going pretty slow and doing tricks on flat. i am very slim and i have also flatspotted a set of rictas on the same surface.
my opinion on these wheels (formula 4's) is that that they are by far the best wheels. their formula is bouncier than the stf (not softer but bouncier - which makes the wheels faster) and i think they also slide much more. the biggest advantage over the stfs is that the