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Skateboarding => Appreciation! => Topic started by: yoyoyo on November 29, 2006, 06:26:42 AM
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It is only untill old age that more skaters realize noone cares about hammers, jummping stairs and rails are just too easy and at the same time very risky. The truth is guys like danny brady, nick jensen, austin stephens, now josh harmony zach lyons and jeremie decline show skateboarding is an aesthetic art form. Like cuirc de sole if you will , its about looking natural, comfortbel and being creative that show the maturity behind true skateboarding. Stephens and harmony by far had the best parts in suffer, i actually prefered stephens whom i think was incorporating a lot of bradys styles, trick selection (does matter) layback varial flips, fackie tre, ect.
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gayest post ever.
just kidding.
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"incorporating a lot of bradys styles"
that would be biting, and no i wouldnt mention austin stephans, danny brady and jenson in the same sentence
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It is only untill old age that more skaters realize noone cares about hammers, jummping stairs and rails are just too easy and at the same time very risky. The truth is guys like danny brady, nick jensen, austin stephens, now josh harmony zach lyons and jeremie decline that show skateboarding is an aesthetic art form. Like cuirc de sole if you will , its about looking natural, comfortbel and being creative that show the maturity behind true skateboarding. Stephens and harmony by far had the best parts in suffer, i actually prefered stephens whom i think was incorporating a lot of bradys styles, trick selection (does matter) layback varial flips, fackie tre, ect.
you suck not only at posting but also at judging aesthetic quality in skateboarding
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he's so hawt!
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you should take stephens out, and put chris cole in... talk about artsy fartsy skating, no hammers, and a bradyesque steeze!
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austin stephens is pretty bad, but josh harmony? nigga please, he's nothing like brady. or jensen for that matter. stephens and josh harmony are both total shit compared to those two.
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Worst part in ever video he's in.
He's sick yeah , faggot.
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kids like to talk.
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I just saw the video and thought Austin's part was better than I expected. Kids think that Toy has to be a full on hammer company, but that team has alot of roots in all types of skating. I wasn't blown away that his part wasnt' all stairs and rails.
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ew christ harmonys part was fucing disgusting
stephens rules
but fuck you must love man ass dude
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austins part was terrible. hes never had a "good" part, i cant remember the last time he came up in a conversation and it was someting positive. its time to drop him and put someone new on, someone whos gonna make toy machine be TOY MACHINE again.
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harmony is awful and Austin is watchable. that's pretty much it
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I can't reply to this original post. Don't speak of Stephens or Harmony in the same breath as Brady or Jensen. Please don't. And don't give me this trip that two Toy riders are miles ahead of everyone else because their style or approach. Have you seen a Girl video lately? How about that Lakai vid coming up? It's going to be chock full of guys who shun rails and steps for the 'original' style of skating that you're speaking of. Pashaw.
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HOLY FUCK JEREME DACLIN
DID DADDY LEAVE YOU WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG?
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nick jensen + danny brady + austin stephens = 3 adorable men.
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I don't think liking Austin Stephens makes you more mature. Its cute that you try and play that card, but it just doesn't apply in this situation.
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I just saw the video and thought Austin's part was better than I expected. Kids think that Toy has to be a full on hammer company, but that team has alot of roots in all types of skating. I wasn't blown away that his part wasnt' all stairs and rails.
Toy Machine has never been a hammer company. Theyre just out of Tum Yeto and that drags in Hammer skateboarders
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I just saw the video and thought Austin's part was better than I expected. Kids think that Toy has to be a full on hammer company, but that team has alot of roots in all types of skating. I wasn't blown away that his part wasnt' all stairs and rails.
Welcome to hell. Ever seen it? Hammers bro, hammers. Oh yeah, by the way, that video made toy machine. 50 years from now, that is the video people will watch when they think of toy.
Also, Good and Evil is chock full o' hammers.
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I don't agree with you, turkey...not one bit.
-not really, I totally do.
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I never really liked him, some of his shit was cool. But overall I could care less if he has a part in a video.
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I just saw the video and thought Austin's part was better than I expected. Kids think that Toy has to be a full on hammer company, but that team has alot of roots in all types of skating. I wasn't blown away that his part wasnt' all stairs and rails.
Welcome to hell. Ever seen it? Hammers bro, hammers. Oh yeah, by the way, that video made toy machine. 50 years from now, that is the video people will watch when they think of toy.
Also, Good and Evil is chock full o' hammers.
Ever seen Live? Not so many hammers bro. By the Way Im talking about the actual Image of the company Itself, Not the team riders
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I just saw the video and thought Austin's part was better than I expected. Kids think that Toy has to be a full on hammer company, but that team has alot of roots in all types of skating. I wasn't blown away that his part wasnt' all stairs and rails.
Welcome to hell. Ever seen it? Hammers bro, hammers. Oh yeah, by the way, that video made toy machine. 50 years from now, that is the video people will watch when they think of toy.
Also, Good and Evil is chock full o' hammers.
Dude, your still wrong. You said "Toy machine has never been a hammer company." Look, its right there in the purple box above this text. See it? Yet Welcome to Hell, a toy machine video, is considered one of the definitive handrail/gap/ gnarly skating videos. Live and heavy metal weren't super gnarly, but you just made a rediculous statement saying toy machine never was one. Fact is they were and are the epitome of a hammer company.
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He had better tricks in that demo clip than he did in Suffer.
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Fact is they were and are the epitome of a hammer company.
I wouldn't go as far as to say that...
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nick jensen + danny brady + austin stephens = 3 adorable men.
i always thought brady had some sort of silly face going on or something
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Jeremie Decline?
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In Welcome to hell Jamie Thomas does some big stuff but the video also has parts by Elissa Steamer, Satva leung, Donny Barley, its not exactly a "hammer" video like the Zero video were. It represents pretty much every aspect of modern street skating.
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one of my favorites he is.
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In Welcome to hell Jamie Thomas does some big stuff but the video also has parts by Elissa Steamer, Satva leung, Donny Barley, its not exactly a "hammer" video like the Zero video were. It represents pretty much every aspect of modern street skating.
Its some gnar shit. Elissa's part ends with her eating shit hard on a nollie lipslide on a big ass ledge. Barley gets gnar too. Maldonado and Templeton shred the big shit too. The fast editing and pretty much entire format was taken by zero and used in later videos. This predates the hammer format we see today, but it pretty much sewed the seeds for the entire thing.
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that's bullshit. wellcome to hell is about great skateboarding, not hammers. there's very versatile skating in it and there isn't a single part that'd be all about hucking yourself down things. even jamie has plenty of other stuff as well.
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is austin stephens a guy or a girl?
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When Toy came through Houston, Austin didn't really do anything too impressive but maybe he wasn't really trying. I thought Matt Bennette was really fun to watch though and Harmony seems like a man on a mission.
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In Welcome to hell Jamie Thomas does some big stuff but the video also has parts by Elissa Steamer, Satva leung, Donny Barley, its not exactly a "hammer" video like the Zero video were. It represents pretty much every aspect of modern street skating.
you should just lock yourself at home in your closet, away from real people and the real world during thanksgiving, because these motherfuckers are eating you alive
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In Welcome to hell Jamie Thomas does some big stuff but the video also has parts by Elissa Steamer, Satva leung, Donny Barley, its not exactly a "hammer" video like the Zero video were. It represents pretty much every aspect of modern street skating.
you should just lock yourself at home in your closet, away from real people and the real world during thanksgiving, because these motherfuckers are eating you alive
Not really. All I hear is arguments from a bunch of people who probably didn't even skate aat the time the video came out and are just continuously comparing it to more recent hammer videos. Fact is, that video is what it is. Think what you want, but remember, that shit came out at the same time as mouse. Compare the two. This argument doesn't make me think I'm wrong, it just makes me think a lot of you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. I know when that video came out me and my friends thought it was the gnarliest thing ever. Welcome to hell is not like an eastern exposure video or something like that, that has the whole variety of skating that was going on at the time. Its all just gnarly shit. Jumping down rails, over gaps, did you guys see the slam section? I'm done with this argument. Either you agree with me, or your just some kid who says welcome to hell was a cool video because you heard older kids say that and you want to fit in.
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that's bullshit. wellcome to hell is about great skateboarding, not hammers. there's very versatile skating in it and there isn't a single part that'd be all about hucking yourself down things. even jamie has plenty of other stuff as well.
Oh, and Jamie's part isn't about hucking yourself down shit? Your fucking dreaming. It wasn't like something you'd see in a zero video today, but its as close as it got in '96.
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is austin stephens a guy or a girl?
a hot guy.
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Yeah dude I agree but there are also skaters who can look natural and comfortable and be creative while skating rails and gaps
...nick...
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i have no idea why austin stephens doesn't come up when people talk about fake style. it's so fucking obvious. back tail to reasonless hand touch down bubba, double landings left and right, easy mini ramp slides on banks. all the pieces are there people.
PS: that kickflip back 5-0 down the rail in good and evil is perhaps the ugliest thing i've ever seen. the rail catches his board, which is the equvalent of having your kickflip roll on the ground.
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but hes a girl so its ok?
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fuck gay austin stephens. FAKE STYLE... the dude pushes around like he can do anything he wants when all he does are gay tricks. that bs nosegrind 180 out, fakie 5-0 and then fakie tre line was the worst.
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I agree with Turkey, that video was so gnarly when it came out. If you were skating anytime near when it came out and you wanted the biggest and craziest shit done, Welcome to Hell was the video. Jamie's part was so fucking crazy, and some of the shit in his part is still legit to this day. It has changed, but not into anything unique like it used to be. It is now becoming just another sleeper company.
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did you know that your username is 'hoobastank'? therefore your opinion is invalid.
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hold your breath, i am having sex with your mother ...............let....me...justtttttttttttttt.................finnnnnnnnish................awwwwwwwwgggoddddd, spluuuuuuuuuuuuurge.............. yeah, what? Noone can recognize good style, as if mariano slapped ur faces and you dident even notice cause you were toobusy sucking your balls on that 18 stair crotch slider, keep it gnar ladies.
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While Austin's part was kindof good I suppose I still Dont get how Hes fucking sponsored. His Sponsor Me sucked too
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reading this thread made want to go watch welcome to hell and well i did and its the sickest fucking video seriously to ever be made! maldanado 5050 to fucking disaster a curb, satva skating to one of the illest songs ever used ina video part, barley doubledouble barleys! templeton ripping to sonicyouth and doing it proper in shorts! and jamie thomas wiht one of the most inspirational video parts of all time look at the filming the editing the skating the spots the tricks being done back in fucking 94-95! cant not watch that and get physced to go skate no way no how. and stephens rips good style although a bit "faggy" at times
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While Austin's part was kindof good I suppose I still Dont get how Hes fucking sponsored. His Sponsor Me sucked too
Yeah but it is not like the sponsor me video was done last year...i think it would have been maybe 1999, in or around that time. Sponsor me vids filming along with the skating where not what they are now as kids are getting crazy footage and filming and editing are almost as good as company vids...it was still buddy video style back then...and for then the tricks where solid for an unknown kid. But i got respect for the guy...but why would someone have an appreciation topic for Austin hahaha fuck man after reading the suffer the joy review you know the guy is hated on.
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It is not fair to claim Welcome to Hell is a hammer video because compared to Mouse it is, almost every video compared to mouse has a lot of rails and big gaps. Also if Welcome to Hell had Muska's part it would probably be the greatest video ever though it still might be in my opinion.
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Did you know that I don't give a shit, nor do I like the band. I might as well name it linkin park, or something more lame. It is sarcasm, and I don't care what you think of my opinions because I will keep putting them on here with a really gay screename. Later doooooode
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It is not fair to claim Welcome to Hell is a hammer video because compared to Mouse it is, almost every video compared to mouse has a lot of rails and big gaps. Also if Welcome to Hell had Muska's part it would probably be the greatest video ever though it still might be in my opinion.
See? You don't know what you are talking about. Mouse has a bunch of rails and gaps, but isn't all gnarly like welcome to hell. That video was just straight up gnarly. My point was, Welcome to Hell wasn't like a tech video of the time, it was more remembered for its hammers.
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This whole "tech" vs. "banks" vs. "rails" shit is skateboarding's version of the East Coast, West Coast rap rivalry. I think it's funny.
What if Jim Greco ended up gettin' capped by Bobby Puleo in retaliation for blasting Biebel?!
It's all just street skating, you nimrods. You act like what anyone is doing is so different than what anyone else is doing. It's not.
(well...except for the mad monk, Steve Olson. Now he was on some other shit when he'd roll up into a somersault mid line...that was different...but he's not around anymore)
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What if Jim Greco ended up gettin' capped by Bobby Puleo in retaliation for blasting Biebel?!
that nevar happened!!!...did it??
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daclin looks like a gorilla when he skates.
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austin stephens is really good in my opinion.
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What if Jim Greco ended up gettin' capped by Bobby Puleo in retaliation for blasting Biebel?!
Nah, Puleo is too much of a pussy to retaliate. Jim got away scott-free. Biebel will be missed.
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daclin looks like a gorilla when he skates.
is that bad?
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Nah, Puleo is too much of a pussy to retaliate.
I guess you haven't seen Ian Reid's Video
Oh I did. He laid an asswhupping on that guy. Don't fuck with Bobby.
Unfortunately, when the gloves are off he couldn't pull the trigger this time and Greco lives on.
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http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=118517433&MyToken=c638c17a-3260-481d-aa4d-f4d1885c9286
Now you guys can hate on him Even more. He's a Christian
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enough with the joke threads guys
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http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=118517433&MyToken=c638c17a-3260-481d-aa4d-f4d1885c9286
Now you guys can hate on him Even more. He's a Christian
There's probably alot of skaters that are Christian but aren't stupid enough to preach about it like Jereme or Hosoi.
Word.
Believe what you want as long as you don't bother me with it, as far as i'm concerned.
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I really like the guy but he seems to be progressing backwards, I mean look at that ledge he always seems to skate..
Sponsor vid- kickflip back tail
TIS- Backside nosegrind 180
Good and Evil- 50-50 frontside 180
Havn't seen Suffer the Joy but at this rate we're looking at a noseslide. Style keeps getting better though.
And we do need to see more Steve Olson, best part in Fulfill the Dream.
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best part for olson was tentacles of destruction, the tricks he did on hubba are amazing.
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for the people saying stephens is a bad skater, you are wrong. the dude is extremely capable of some really great skateboarding, not only in the style area but also trick wise. he could put together a fantastic video part if he really put a lot of effort into it. although the main issue here is that the type of relaxed, banks and ledges sort of skating he is doing isn't quite his best, but he's certainly comfortable with what he's doing. i'm completely fine with that, but obviously there are people out there who demand more from skateboarders and it's up to him if he wants really push himself.
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for the people saying stephens is a bad skater, you are wrong. the dude is extremely capable of some really great skateboarding, not only in the style area but also trick wise. he could put together a fantastic video part if he really put a lot of effort into it. although the main issue here is that the type of relaxed, banks and ledges sort of skating he is doing isn't quite his best, but he's certainly comfortable with what he's doing. i'm completely fine with that, but obviously there are people out there who demand more from skateboarders and it's up to him if he wants really push himself.
Im sure most people would be "comfortable" getting paid doing half assed skateboard tricks
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that's bullshit. wellcome to hell is about great skateboarding, not hammers. there's very versatile skating in it and there isn't a single part that'd be all about hucking yourself down things. even jamie has plenty of other stuff as well.
well, obviously that's what stands out in that part since big rails and things like that weren't as common as these days, but there's more than that. and there are plenty more parts than just jamies, one part in a video doesn't make it a 'hammer video'.
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Jamie made Welcome to Hell the legendary video that it is. I am not saying that the other parts weren't good (elissa), but that his part was by far the most impressive and well remembered.
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he could put together a fantastic video part if he really put a lot of effort into it.
Then why hasn't he? Fuck him. I'm tired of waiting for this mythical "good Austin Stephens part."
As for welcome to hell. I know it doesn't have as many hammers as a video today. Have you been reading what I have been posting? Compare it to other videos of the time, look at the evolution of the modern "hammer" video. Welcome to Hell made that shit what it is. You think guys like Greco and Ellington didn't learn a few things from Jamie? That dude is all business, and it shows in Welcome to hell. As for other people in it, you bet your ass there were! I can remember a bunch of "hammers" others did. Maldonado's ollie on the bench to ollie over the wall, his 5050 on a massive rail to landing on a stair. Elissa Steamer ollieing the gap into the bank/sign, Brian Anderson's front blunt on hubba, Templeton boardslide to pop out early on a capped rail, his frontside feeble on a kinked rail, The friends section is just full of hammers by big name guys, and there are so many more I could name. Sure, there is other shit in there, but it is also full of some serious hammers.
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everytime i pass this post i always think it says austin seaholm appreciation thread..
hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!
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everytime i pass this post i always think it says austin seaholm appreciation thread..
hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!
Haha appreciate fools! Lets hear some opinions about Seaholm!
And I just saw Austin Stevens Suffer the Joy part and I liked it a little less than Good and Evil. Don't know why though... That backside 50-50 was pretty feeble.
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i was just watching boob and that dude used to wear a flexfit hat and size 40 jeans ha
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I like his skating. He's hipster as fuck!
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I'm tired of waiting for this mythical "good Austin Stephens part."
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that's bullshit. wellcome to hell is about great skateboarding, not hammers. there's very versatile skating in it and there isn't a single part that'd be all about hucking yourself down things. even jamie has plenty of other stuff as well.
so, the hammers made it stand out but that doesnt make it a "hammer" video?
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i know that he's not on another level or anything and a lot of his tricks were one-upped like ten years ago but when Suffer the Joy first got posted on youtube, I would just watch his part nonstop. maybe it was his style or maybe it was the music, I don't know but I like him.
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nothing hes done has ever stood out in my mind. his skating and style is forgettable.
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someone please post his suffer the joy part.
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austin stephens = washed up
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i believe the whole video is on google video, unless of course they took it down.
why all the hate? its supposed to be an "appreciation" thread.
haha, as if one has ever existed.
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=lRrpzN-xzbg
theres his good and evil part. the only tricks that i thought were good were the last 2 clips, the line with the feeble and kickflip, and the kickflip at rincon. seriously everything else just wasnt really good.
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=lRrpzN-xzbg
theres his good and evil part. the only tricks that i thought were good were the last 2 clips, the line with the feeble and kickflip, and the kickflip at rincon. seriously everything else just wasnt really good.
yea, pole jams on vertical poles really arnt that good at all.bluntslides down hubbas, seriously was NOT really good
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=lRrpzN-xzbg
theres his good and evil part. the only tricks that i thought were good were the last 2 clips, the line with the feeble and kickflip, and the kickflip at rincon. seriously everything else just wasnt really good.
who gives a shit just face it he sucks