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Title: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Paul Cicero on March 19, 2013, 03:19:51 AM
Ever had a set up that just plain isn't working for you?
I'm skating one right now, Alien deck, and Vans old schools.

It's just not happening.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Sondor on March 19, 2013, 03:35:28 AM
Once I had a habitat deck with fucking big concave
It was pain in the ass even to flick a flip
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Leo Chumack on March 19, 2013, 03:56:54 AM
I remember skating the Jake Johnson Pro Model debut board and that thing was insane. It said it was an 8.5 but it felt wider, it had the most concave out of any board I've ever skated, also, the nose and tail were very steep so I would constantly eat shit because I had to smack the tail down way harder just to ollie. So sometimes alien shapes end up being really crazy, if you like a lot of concave, and a steep nose/tail, then Alien/Habitat boards are the right board for you. Also, I really like the Old Skool's recently released, but one time I got a pair that were lying around my shop for a few years, they were super old. I think the rubber on them expired because they felt really stiff and hurt my feet. I compared them to recent Old Skool's I've skated in and they said they were made in Vietnam as opposed to China. Maybe that's the issue?
Anyways, I'm super picky about my set-ups also and I hate buying all new shit and then not having it work out for me. Best of luck to you sir.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Paul Cicero on March 19, 2013, 04:26:09 AM
Just happened to me recently. I had a Heroin board, couldn't do a single thing on it due to that terrible Baker shape. Plus some Adidas Campuses which felt like bricks on my feet.

Once I find something that works really well, I try sticking with it. I've got 5 Roger boards all the same size and 5 pairs of the same shoes ready to be skated. I hate getting used to different stuff now.

I'll never buy another pair of shoes that aren't emericas.

Glad to see that this has happened to other SLAP heads.. I left the park today out of embarrassment of how
much I was stinking it up!

Just gonna stick to what I know.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Paco Supreme on March 19, 2013, 05:04:19 AM
Once I find something that works really well, I try sticking with it.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Loyal Pawn on March 19, 2013, 05:15:11 AM
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Once I find something that works really well, I try sticking with it.
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Ive been riding a 8.5x32.33 with a 14'' wheelbase for the last 7 years.havent looked back.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: october on March 19, 2013, 05:34:46 AM
I've skated some shitty boards, but if you have a set-up that you cant do anything on, I seriously doubt it's the board.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Morty Seinfeld on March 19, 2013, 07:26:44 AM
Polar boards. Flattest pieces of shit I've ever skated.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: the snake on March 19, 2013, 07:33:08 AM
Polar boards. Flattest pieces of shit I've ever skated.
haven't they fixed that with bareback/generator new series?
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: hornyrick on March 19, 2013, 07:39:50 AM
had two toymachine boards that i absolutely hated! cant understand how anyone could enjoy those flat soggy pieces of shit. i actually get worked up just thinking about them
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: foureyedjim on March 19, 2013, 07:43:19 AM
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Polar boards. Flattest pieces of shit I've ever skated.
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haven't they fixed that with bareback/generator new series?

I don't know which one's you're referring to, but the regular shaped polar I had was suuuuper flat
When in doubt, I would go for the p3 shape instead for polar (square-ish tail)
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: october on March 19, 2013, 08:12:13 AM
Who pressed Polar before?

I didnt know they went to BB/Generator.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: NoMoreParkFootagePlease on March 19, 2013, 08:13:29 AM
Always had a problem with the old Baker Boards haven't bought one from the new distributor yet.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: ontheswarm on March 19, 2013, 08:14:47 AM
Actually just recently. Had a brand new real board that had same nose same tail. It felt so weird to me. I thought I was the only one till a homie stood on it and said the same thing.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Ollie Ringwald on March 19, 2013, 11:29:14 AM
Once I find something that works really well I try sticking with it.

It's mostly in your mind I think but this. And only skating one new thing at a time.

Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Morty Seinfeld on March 19, 2013, 12:45:15 PM
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Polar boards. Flattest pieces of shit I've ever skated.
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haven't they fixed that with bareback/generator new series?
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I don't know which one's you're referring to, but the regular shaped polar I had was suuuuper flat
When in doubt, I would go for the p3 shape instead for polar (square-ish tail)

The boards I had that were so bad were the generator ones. The ones pressed MDCN were great in comparison, too bad only one round of those boards made it to the US. I wish they'd make those boards a bit steeper, preferably very similar to Magenta boards. Also I'd be stoked if their graphics weren't mostly drawings of people getting killed.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Kinch on March 19, 2013, 01:13:13 PM
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Once I find something that works really well I try sticking with it.
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It's mostly in your mind I think but this. And only skating one new thing at a time.



For sure, I hate changing more than one thing in one go, feels so weird.
I recently had a local shop board that was super long, fully an inch and a half longer than the board I had had before it. I could barely skate the damn thing.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Paul Cicero on March 19, 2013, 02:33:17 PM
I've skated some shitty boards, but if you have a set-up that you cant do anything on, I seriously doubt it's the board.

Cheers Lad.

I guess the best example would be "go to" tricks not working
how they usually do.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: hornyrick on March 19, 2013, 04:09:31 PM
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Polar boards. Flattest pieces of shit I've ever skated.
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haven't they fixed that with bareback/generator new series?
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I don't know which one's you're referring to, but the regular shaped polar I had was suuuuper flat
When in doubt, I would go for the p3 shape instead for polar (square-ish tail)
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The boards I had that were so bad were the generator ones. The ones pressed MDCN were great in comparison, too bad only one round of those boards made it to the US. I wish they'd make those boards a bit steeper, preferably very similar to Magenta boards. Also I'd be stoked if their graphics weren't mostly drawings of people getting killed.
for real though on the graphics part, the first couple graphics were awesome with wizards, trolls, and what not. I like some if the other ones with the obese women also but all this scooters being impaled shit sucks, we get it nobody likes scooters. Are they trying to make a point even further than that? Or is it just lack of creativity.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Cameron Hoegee on March 19, 2013, 04:17:31 PM
I had the Creature Bingaman P2 board the tail was way to fucking small I couldn't deal with it and gave it to a kid in need at the park. It even felt smaller than a regular 8.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Noble Experiment on March 19, 2013, 05:01:02 PM
Bought a shop deck from Pharmacy years ago and I just couldn't make shit work on it. The shape on it wasn't even THAT bad, but I just couldn't make it work.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Will Easley on March 19, 2013, 09:02:57 PM
Never had any memorable "bad setups". I like to think that i have a board preference but i seem to do equally well on any kind of deck/concave after about 10-15 minutes of getting used to it. I've literally skated just about every kind of major brand deck & while the durability may differ i seem to skate more or less the same. I really like to pop my tricks so I used to act like i was against flatter boards but i skated a pretty low concave toy machine & it seemed to be one of the better boards ive skated.

I once had to go from an 8.5 to a 7.5 when i snapped a board & while that took me about 20 minutes to get used to i ended up liking how much easier it was to flick for the time being. regular 8's still seem to be that sweet spot for me tho. i dunno i grew up skating the most random shit without knowing what the fuck i was doing so alot of those things dont really affect me like that now. defintely cant skate thin ass vulc shoes tho, my feet feel too small
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: swagdragon123 on March 19, 2013, 09:17:45 PM
I had an MJ chocolate deck with a lemonade bottle graphic. It was the only board I have ever #focused
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: dillanharp on March 19, 2013, 09:23:32 PM
BUY YOUR SHIT AT A LOCAL SHOP, STAND ON IT PRIOR TO PURCHASE, PROBLEM SOLVED. FOR FUCKS SAKE....
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: scorpion1001 on March 19, 2013, 09:45:22 PM
i have nike salazar LRs that i have no choice but to wear as regular walking shoes because the day i tried skating them, the half inch or so of space between my toe and the end of my foot basically ruined my flick and mood for that session.  never again am i going to skate a pair of shoes if they don't feel 100% fully fitted around my foot.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on March 20, 2013, 12:16:52 PM
Years ago I got one of those Foundation fiberlam boards The size was mislabeled, so it was already uncomfortable to start, but those fiberlam boards felt like total shit. Flexed like no other. I was actually happy when I broke it on a four stair a week later. I also have a pair of the Slap Campus Vulcs, and although I love to wear them, they're a bit too high for me to skate in.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Schismatic on March 20, 2013, 01:08:30 PM
Ever had a set up that just plain isn't working for you?
I'm skating one right now, Alien deck, and Vans old schools.

It's just not happening.
It's the shoes man, it's the shoes.
I always thought Vans old schools were shitty for skating. They have the non-removable insole that gives no protection, and they're paper thin all around, no ankle or tongue padding, its just a layer of canvas. I don't see why people skate in them when there's stuff like TNT 5's that have a similar look and actually feel like skate shoes when you put them on. For Vans, the SK8-Mid Pro's are actually solid feeling. I'm going to stick with the re-issued OG Rowley's until every possible source is sold out, then probably go back to Half-Cab Pro's. I understand why people don't like the feel of Vans, but I don't jump down big shit anymore and love how they feel for skating tranny and small street. I always get them 1/2 size big and add an extra insole though. The PU3 insole with a worn down Dr Scholls and vulc soles is my perfect combo of fit, feel, and protection.

Old schools will definitely throw everything off, unless you're used to skating in chuck taylor's or slip-on's, which have about the same amount of padding. Change your shoes and all might be right with the world.

My only setup complaint at the moment is that I recently started wishing my board was wider so started to hyperfocus on it but I already ride 8.5's. Thinking 8.75 would be better but in the meantime it's messing with me a little bit mentally, not to the point where it effects skating though.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Cameron Hoegee on March 20, 2013, 01:30:35 PM
BUY YOUR SHIT AT A LOCAL SHOP, STAND ON IT PRIOR TO PURCHASE, PROBLEM SOLVED. FOR FUCKS SAKE....
Are you fucking retarted? Yes standing on the board prior to purchase does help to getting used to the board but no two boards are the same and the board is still going to feel strange once you set up the board. Just standing on it wont give you the feel or rolling around it.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Deekay on March 20, 2013, 01:59:45 PM
This fall I had this alien board and some dunks, and it felt like my shoes were taking up the whole board even though it was an 8.25 like I always skate, it felt super off. I had to switch out the deck right away
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: fookya on March 20, 2013, 05:12:13 PM
I setup a habitat board this fall after 3 years of riding strictly dlx boards. I rode it for about 4 days and took it apart. the nose was so steep I felt like someone was holding my foot back when I tried to do flips.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: peewee on March 20, 2013, 06:14:03 PM
So what do you guys do when you have a board you don't like? Do you guys give it away? Keep it stashed away in your room? I orderd a habitat deck and it just felt god awful, fat nose and it's under 31.5 inches. So it's just in my room collecting dust, and I wasted 54 dollars :(
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Randozzi on March 20, 2013, 06:15:24 PM
If I'm not feeling a deck I give it to a kid who needs it. Usually make them do a trick to earn it, or something.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Paul Cicero on March 21, 2013, 02:48:30 AM
If I'm not feeling a deck I give it to a kid who needs it. Usually make them do a trick to earn it, or something.

Thats epic.

Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: 360 frip on March 21, 2013, 03:07:37 AM
I had an alien where the nose was about 1/2 to 1 inch shorter than the tail, though the shape was right for the tail/nose. It was as if someone had mixed the dimensions up. Fucked.

Another friend had a alien or habitat with a heavier nose. The balance was so off.

I usually persevere, try and get used to it and then focus if it still isn't right and I have used it enough.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: eranka on March 21, 2013, 03:13:49 AM
So what do you guys do when you have a board you don't like? Do you guys give it away? Keep it stashed away in your room? I orderd a habitat deck and it just felt god awful, fat nose and it's under 31.5 inches. So it's just in my room collecting dust, and I wasted 54 dollars :(
ive been keeping all the boards i skated and liked since my first one, have around 30-40 stashed away.
tons of good memories, i feel really attached to alot of them.. first board, marks from a specific spot, graphics, writings, boards that i skated on trips.. i love having them
but when i have a board i dont like i always give it to someone, i dont keep boards that i dont like and there is always a friend or little kid that would love skating that deck. i actually hate keeping boards i didnt like, cant stand having them and i just want to get rid of them

and for the subject of the thread, yes, i had a few set ups that just felt bad
had a Santa Cruz deck not too long ago that just felt off, maybe it was the wheel base or maybe it was something else but the shape was okay, it just felt weird and i couldnt skate it properly, every trick was a struggle.
had another deck from a local company with a huge nose, tiny tail and it felt "shaky"' cant really explain it but when i was setting my feet for a trick it would feel really unstable
had issues with lakai telfords aswell, felt so wrong, couldnt do anything with them.

right now my set up feels fucking perfect,its a cliche brezinsky 7.8 and i feel so comfortable with it even though its a 2 months old and has no pop left in it, it just feels really good, everything just works even though the pop is gone.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: ontheswarm on March 21, 2013, 03:34:47 AM
So what do you guys do when you have a board you don't like? Do you guys give it away? Keep it stashed away in your room? I orderd a habitat deck and it just felt god awful, fat nose and it's under 31.5 inches. So it's just in my room collecting dust, and I wasted 54 dollars :(
Sell them for super cheap or give them to the homies who need them.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: ontheswarm on March 21, 2013, 04:28:13 AM
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So what do you guys do when you have a board you don't like? Do you guys give it away? Keep it stashed away in your room? I orderd a habitat deck and it just felt god awful, fat nose and it's under 31.5 inches. So it's just in my room collecting dust, and I wasted 54 dollars :(
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That's the worst feeling ever; when you spend hard earned money on a deck only to realize it ain't going to work; it's right up there with first day board snaps.
As for what I do, I usually try my hardest to make it work. If I try hard enough I can adapt to any board. But if it's super bad, I usually just give my board to some needy friends. I have two homies who I skate with who don't have jobs and are always low on cash, and they're always riding the worst hand me down setups and they always seem to be in need of boards, so I try to hook them up when I can, just to keep them skating.
I think me and you both had this problem with a certain board. The one I gave to Curtis.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Noble Experiment on March 21, 2013, 04:34:06 AM
So what do you guys do when you have a board you don't like? Do you guys give it away? Keep it stashed away in your room? I orderd a habitat deck and it just felt god awful, fat nose and it's under 31.5 inches. So it's just in my room collecting dust, and I wasted 54 dollars :(
That's the worst feeling ever; when you spend hard earned money on a deck only to realize it ain't going to work; it's right up there with first day board snaps.
As for what I do, I usually try my hardest to make it work. If I try hard enough I can adapt to any board. But if it's super bad, I usually just give my board to some needy friends. I have two homies who I skate with who don't have jobs and are always low on cash, and they're always riding the worst hand me down setups and they always seem to be in need of boards, so I try to hook them up when I can, just to keep them skating.

Also, it seems like Alien is getting mentioned quite a bit in this thread. The local shop has an Alien deck and a Krooked deck in my size, and I'm going to be picking up a new deck at the end of the week. I was having a hard time deciding which one to choose, I was leaning more towards the Alien, but now after reading through this thread I'm having second thoughts about buying the Alien deck. Probably best just to stick with ol' reliable (DLX decks).
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: ontheswarm on March 21, 2013, 05:22:21 AM
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So what do you guys do when you have a board you don't like? Do you guys give it away? Keep it stashed away in your room? I orderd a habitat deck and it just felt god awful, fat nose and it's under 31.5 inches. So it's just in my room collecting dust, and I wasted 54 dollars :(
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That's the worst feeling ever; when you spend hard earned money on a deck only to realize it ain't going to work; it's right up there with first day board snaps.
As for what I do, I usually try my hardest to make it work. If I try hard enough I can adapt to any board. But if it's super bad, I usually just give my board to some needy friends. I have two homies who I skate with who don't have jobs and are always low on cash, and they're always riding the worst hand me down setups and they always seem to be in need of boards, so I try to hook them up when I can, just to keep them skating.

Also, it seems like Alien is getting mentioned quite a bit in this thread. The local shop has an Alien deck and a Krooked deck in my size, and I'm going to be picking up a new deck at the end of the week. I was having a hard time deciding which one to choose, I was leaning more towards the Alien, but now after reading through this thread I'm having second thoughts about buying the Alien deck. Probably best just to stick with ol' reliable (DLX decks).
Yea go with generator wood. The wood is awesome and it doesn't lose it's pop. My girl is losing it's pop but it still feels good.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Noble Experiment on March 21, 2013, 05:53:32 AM
^^^
Hah, my computer was being all laggy so I posted what I wanted to say twice because I thought my post didn't go through the first time, i copied and pasted what I wrote and posted it again. When I found out it went through I decided to delete the first post of the two identical posts, but I did it like right after you quoted me. Now it looks all weird; it looks like you predicted what I was going to say in a quote, ahah.

but yeah Generator wood is the best. Even the pricepoint DLX boards aren't that bad. And Curtis was one of the dudes I was referring to when I was talking about the two friends I have who I'm always giving boards away to.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Deekay on March 21, 2013, 10:31:38 AM
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So what do you guys do when you have a board you don't like? Do you guys give it away? Keep it stashed away in your room? I orderd a habitat deck and it just felt god awful, fat nose and it's under 31.5 inches. So it's just in my room collecting dust, and I wasted 54 dollars :(
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Also, it seems like Alien is getting mentioned quite a bit in this thread. The local shop has an Alien deck and a Krooked deck in my size, and I'm going to be picking up a new deck at the end of the week. I was having a hard time deciding which one to choose, I was leaning more towards the Alien, but now after reading through this thread I'm having second thoughts about buying the Alien deck. Probably best just to stick with ol' reliable (DLX decks).

The one I mentioned was an alien board but my favorite decks ever has been alien or habitats too. Its just that they put out some different shapes every now and then that are kinda "extreme", like super flat or super deep with super big nose or tail or small.. So I guess you'll either love them or hate them. DLX is more just mellow.. Theyre kinda vanilla, everyone thinks its good and its a safe bet.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on March 21, 2013, 11:11:59 AM
A kid in my neighborhood who quit skating gave me his set up years back. I only wanted the deck, but he didn't want to take it apart. So I had some basically brand new Destructos that sat in my trunk until I gave them to some kid who fucked up his trucks.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Pango on March 21, 2013, 11:25:18 AM
I had an MJ chocolate deck with a lemonade bottle graphic. It was the only board I have ever #focused

I had the Pops board in that same series, yeah that thing was piece of shit
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: swagdragon123 on March 21, 2013, 03:09:05 PM
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I had the Pops board in that same series, yeah that thing was piece of shit
thank you! it was flat and had a weird shape, I could not tre flip for my life on that board!
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: peewee on March 21, 2013, 03:16:01 PM
ive seen on here people saying that they love girl/chocolate decks and i really dont get why, they are super flat, have a huge nose, and have pretty small tails, i don't get it
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Post by: nylin on March 21, 2013, 04:32:23 PM
ive seen on here people saying that they love girl/chocolate decks and i really dont get why, they are super flat, have a huge nose, and have pretty small tails, i don't get it

The huge nose won me over many years ago.
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Post by: gaunting on March 21, 2013, 11:19:10 PM
There have been some pretty memorable ones for me...
First, I love baker, the team, all that shit, but no matter how many I've had, I just don't like them, only had the blitz ones though.

Definitely any alien deck I've ever had, weirdest, most uncomfortable shapes.

About a year ago I tried out a real for the first time, it was the 8.06 shape, easily one of the worst boards I've had.

Indy lows, actually any low truck I've ever had.

And most recently trucks, bought those new thunder titanium light, 147 hi's, and I just can't get used to them, the stock bushings are weird, and when I put bones mediums in them, they turn all tight, which I don't get at all, because they turn a little too loose on indy's, idk I think it's cause I've been riding indy's for as long as I can remember.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: dillanharp on March 21, 2013, 11:37:01 PM
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Are you fucking retarted? Yes standing on the board prior to purchase does help to getting used to the board but no two boards are the same and the board is still going to feel strange once you set up the board. Just standing on it wont give you the feel or rolling around it.

Yea I'm a big ol retart... You can tell if you like the concave, you can tell if the tail is going to be shitty for you, if the nose is too big/small.... What the fuck? have you ever actually purchased a skateboard?
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Filip on March 22, 2013, 12:27:44 AM
I dont know, I actually like trying new shapes. If it doesnt work, I make it work. As long as its 8,5, its ok.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Paul Cicero on March 22, 2013, 01:12:57 AM
I love Workshop as a company, but will never buy one.
Same for enjoi.
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Post by: Cameron Hoegee on March 22, 2013, 06:47:53 AM
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Are you fucking retarted? Yes standing on the board prior to purchase does help to getting used to the board but no two boards are the same and the board is still going to feel strange once you set up the board. Just standing on it wont give you the feel or rolling around it.
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Yea I'm a big ol retart... You can tell if you like the concave, you can tell if the tail is going to be shitty for you, if the nose is too big/small.... What the fuck? have you ever actually purchased a skateboard?
I understand what it is you are trying to say but you can stand on the board all you want in the shop, yeah it will help but even when you set up the board it's still going to feel a little different. You will never get the same feel just standing in the shop as you will actually skating the board.
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Post by: the snake on March 22, 2013, 07:21:13 AM
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BUY YOUR SHIT AT A LOCAL SHOP, STAND ON IT PRIOR TO PURCHASE, PROBLEM SOLVED. FOR FUCKS SAKE....
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Are you fucking retarted? Yes standing on the board prior to purchase does help to getting used to the board but no two boards are the same and the board is still going to feel strange once you set up the board. Just standing on it wont give you the feel or rolling around it.
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Yea I'm a big ol retart... You can tell if you like the concave, you can tell if the tail is going to be shitty for you, if the nose is too big/small.... What the fuck? have you ever actually purchased a skateboard?
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I understand what it is you are trying to say but you can stand on the board all you want in the shop, yeah it will help but even when you set up the board it's still going to feel a little different. You will never get the same feel just standing in the shop as you will actually skating the board.
i'll add that i don't like to stand on a brand new deck that i won't buy and i don't like the idea that someone stood on the one i bought
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: ontheswarm on March 22, 2013, 11:00:23 AM
There have been some pretty memorable ones for me...
First, I love baker, the team, all that shit, but no matter how many I've had, I just don't like them, only had the blitz ones though.

Definitely any alien deck I've ever had, weirdest, most uncomfortable shapes.

About a year ago I tried out a real for the first time, it was the 8.06 shape, easily one of the worst boards I've had.

Indy lows, actually any low truck I've ever had.

And most recently trucks, bought those new thunder titanium light, 147 hi's, and I just can't get used to them, the stock bushings are weird, and when I put bones mediums in them, they turn all tight, which I don't get at all, because they turn a little too loose on indy's, idk I think it's cause I've been riding indy's for as long as I can remember.
Same here. Mine felt like it was a 7.75. It felt so weird to do flip tricks or anything. I gave it to a homie the next day after putting it on.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Noble Experiment on March 22, 2013, 03:52:26 PM
Indy lows, actually any low truck I've ever had.
This.
Had a set of Venture lows one time, the Janoski pro model ones that were in dark red. I couldn't stand the way they felt.

Also, if we're venturing away from boards and talking about other products that just didn't work, here's a few worth mentioning:

Had a set of STFs in the v2 shape (the shape where the edges of the wheels are flattened out so it allows you to lock into grinds better) and the bearings would not stay in the wheel worth a shit. Everytime I would land primo the bearings would pop out. I would have to re-pop my bearings back in a couple times a session. It got super annoying.

Had a pair of Reynolds Cruisers once and I just didn't like the way they skated. Felt weird. Same goes for a pair of Fortes I had too. They just felt weird to skate in.

Had two sets of Indy abec 7's where the cages for the bearings would break one by one after only a month or two of skating, and I don't skate big shit and usually my bearings will last me forever. Fast bearings, but not durable at all.

Remember when Jessup had all those bad batches of grip out? Where the edges would peel and chip away, leaving these weird white crack marks? That shit was the worst. Turned me away from Jessup for the longest time. Had a few sheets since then though and the quality is back to normal. Still though, that shit had me turning my head the other way on Jessup for a good couple of years.
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Post by: wallieD on March 22, 2013, 04:42:51 PM
ok. so i can kcikflip on a chocolate board but not on a girl? they r the same wood lol so like i just dont get it, crazie
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Post by: zoltan on March 22, 2013, 08:15:12 PM
Ever had a set up that just plain isn't working for you?
I'm skating one right now, Alien deck, and Vans old schools.

It's just not happening.

haha im skating this right now and the old skools feel a little loose on my feet but still great. cant beat an aws deck
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Post by: zoltan on March 22, 2013, 08:21:42 PM
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Are you fucking retarted? Yes standing on the board prior to purchase does help to getting used to the board but no two boards are the same and the board is still going to feel strange once you set up the board. Just standing on it wont give you the feel or rolling around it.

actually every company makes a few different shapes and just print different graphics. find the board you like and keep buying that same size from that company and it should always be the same. ive been skating AWS 8.25 x 31.75 for a couple years and the graphics are different but the shape/concave is the exact same as long as i buy that exact size from aws. the same should go for any other company, just make sure its the same width and length because they might make multiple 8" or 8.25" boards with different lengths and the shapes will be different
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Post by: A.J.K. on March 22, 2013, 08:23:33 PM
Am I the only one here who doesn't give a fuck about shape or concave?  As long as the board is between 8.00 and 8.25 and not ridiculously short i'm satisfied.
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Post by: zoltan on March 22, 2013, 08:27:56 PM
Am I the only one here who doesn't give a fuck about shape or concave?  As long as the board is between 8.00 and 8.25 and not ridiculously short i'm satisfied.

yeah im generally good with any 8.25 but now that i figure i can buy the exact same deck, i might as well. i figure i would skate the best if every board is the same. keep your flip tricks more consistent
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Post by: paraquat on March 22, 2013, 08:41:03 PM
Am I the only one here who doesn't give a fuck about shape or concave?  As long as the board is between 8.00 and 8.25 and not ridiculously short i'm satisfied.

I'm with you. But if you get a deck that's warped cause it was defective or whatever, it'll fuck yo flow up
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Post by: the snake on March 22, 2013, 08:51:53 PM
zoltan, your avatar is mind-blowing
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Post by: Paco Supreme on March 22, 2013, 09:04:57 PM
zoltan, your avatar is mind-blowing

!!!
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Post by: the snake on March 22, 2013, 10:37:38 PM
sorry, i'm not an englishman, i meant what a nice avatar!
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Chomp on this. on March 22, 2013, 11:57:22 PM
I've been skating some new Indy's lately, and I'm getting pretty damn tired of having to twist the bolt back on with my fingers. Or if I'm at a park, Borrowing a tool every five minutes.
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Post by: wallieD on March 23, 2013, 12:57:47 AM
I've been skating some new Indy's lately, and I'm getting pretty damn tired of having to twist the bolt back on with my fingers. Or if I'm at a park, Borrowing a tool every five minutes.
use 2 top bushings
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Post by: Deekay on March 23, 2013, 10:31:57 AM
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I've been skating some new Indy's lately, and I'm getting pretty damn tired of having to twist the bolt back on with my fingers. Or if I'm at a park, Borrowing a tool every five minutes.
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use 2 top bushings

Or get softer bushings and crank them down a little more
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Post by: pandarelated on March 23, 2013, 03:49:20 PM
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I've been skating some new Indy's lately, and I'm getting pretty damn tired of having to twist the bolt back on with my fingers. Or if I'm at a park, Borrowing a tool every five minutes.
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use 2 top bushings
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Or get softer bushings and crank them down a little more

remove the washers?
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Post by: heckler on March 23, 2013, 05:15:49 PM
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Are you fucking retarted? Yes standing on the board prior to purchase does help to getting used to the board but no two boards are the same and the board is still going to feel strange once you set up the board. Just standing on it wont give you the feel or rolling around it.
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actually every company makes a few different shapes and just print different graphics. find the board you like and keep buying that same size from that company and it should always be the same. ive been skating AWS 8.25 x 31.75 for a couple years and the graphics are different but the shape/concave is the exact same as long as i buy that exact size from aws. the same should go for any other company, just make sure its the same width and length because they might make multiple 8" or 8.25" boards with different lengths and the shapes will be different
Exactly, I've been skating the Toy Machine 8.125 x 32 shape for the past two years (with the odd AWS thrown in every now and then) and it's never steered me wrong. I'm really surprised to hear how many people have problems with Toy shapes, or flat boards in general. Fuck concave.
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Post by: Thelonious P on March 23, 2013, 05:36:54 PM
Am I the only one here who doesn't give a fuck about shape or concave?  As long as the board is between 8.00 and 8.25 and not ridiculously short i'm satisfied.
This but for 8.5s, maybe its because I can't afford to be shape/concave specific so I've grown used to a manner of different ones
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Post by: brownjenkin on March 23, 2013, 06:29:06 PM
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Am I the only one here who doesn't give a fuck about shape or concave?  As long as the board is between 8.00 and 8.25 and not ridiculously short i'm satisfied.
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This but for 8.5s, maybe its because I can't afford to be shape/concave specific so I've grown used to a manner of different ones

If I get it in my head that I skate better on a certain shape, concave, etc. I go crazy. I try not to think about it and just adapt. If I skated the exact same board over and over and I couldn't get my hands on it one time, I'd probably lose my mind. The only thing I make sure is that the board is between 7.875 and 8.125 and under 32, but that's not terribly hard to find.
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Post by: Chomp on this. on March 24, 2013, 12:08:57 AM
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I've been skating some new Indy's lately, and I'm getting pretty damn tired of having to twist the bolt back on with my fingers. Or if I'm at a park, Borrowing a tool every five minutes.
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use 2 top bushings
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Or get softer bushings and crank them down a little more
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remove the washers?
  I've already removed the washers, and I've cut the bottom bushing down a little bit. The bolt always starts coming off after a few minutes.
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Post by: ontheswarm on March 24, 2013, 12:27:22 AM
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I've been skating some new Indy's lately, and I'm getting pretty damn tired of having to twist the bolt back on with my fingers. Or if I'm at a park, Borrowing a tool every five minutes.
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use 2 top bushings
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Or get softer bushings and crank them down a little more
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remove the washers?
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  I've already removed the washers, and I've cut the bottom bushing down a little bit. The bolt always starts coming off after a few minutes.
Are they the indy lows and are they the stage 10s?
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: wallieD on March 24, 2013, 02:21:33 AM
dang, it sucks when the bolt comes off.
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Post by: Chomp on this. on March 24, 2013, 03:27:20 AM
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I've been skating some new Indy's lately, and I'm getting pretty damn tired of having to twist the bolt back on with my fingers. Or if I'm at a park, Borrowing a tool every five minutes.
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use 2 top bushings
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Or get softer bushings and crank them down a little more
[close]

remove the washers?
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  I've already removed the washers, and I've cut the bottom bushing down a little bit. The bolt always starts coming off after a few minutes.
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Are they the indy lows and are they the stage 10s?
Yes, They are.
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Post by: ontheswarm on March 24, 2013, 03:44:02 AM
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I've been skating some new Indy's lately, and I'm getting pretty damn tired of having to twist the bolt back on with my fingers. Or if I'm at a park, Borrowing a tool every five minutes.
[close]
use 2 top bushings
[close]

Or get softer bushings and crank them down a little more
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remove the washers?
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  I've already removed the washers, and I've cut the bottom bushing down a little bit. The bolt always starts coming off after a few minutes.
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Are they the indy lows and are they the stage 10s?
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Yes, They are.
Sounds like you need to replace the kingpin. This has happened to another friend of mine with the stage 10s.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Loyal Pawn on March 24, 2013, 10:20:13 AM
Or you can put your kingpin nut back on,tighten it to your liking.And add some locktight to it.Its like 4 bucks at home depot or lowes.My friend used to do that and rock super loose indy's forever.Never lost his kingpin nut during a session
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: neko on March 25, 2013, 01:40:06 PM
Fuck concave.
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Post by: Winking Starfish on March 28, 2013, 06:23:13 PM
I switched to a pair of Venture low 5.25 from Indy low whatevers, and threw a set of Creager 50s on - "down" from 51 STF's -  to help my flip tricks, and when I put them on my usual 8.06 x 31.8 Anti-Hero everything felt off. The wheel base felt too long, my foot positions felt too short for kickflips, and they spun rockety. Plus, the board seemed to flex when I went for an ollie. In general, the deck was just a tad too wide with too much concave for the "techier" truck/wheel set-up. Bummer, I really wanted my typical AH board to work with the new trucks and wheels. 

I pulled the set up apart after a half-hour, and went and bought a 8 x 31.675 Chocolate deck, and within twenty minutes the new set up was spinnin' right. I've been disappointed in Crailtap wood quality in the past, especially compared to DLX, but DLX shapes seem either a little too big, or a little too small - if you can find a smaller one. Nitpicky, I know, but I can't help it.

Anyone have recommendations for easily found, quality wood 8 x 31.675, or 8 x 31.75 decks with med concave? I might sell out and try a Plan B Prospec next...
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: emmetjenks on March 28, 2013, 09:52:45 PM
I've rode Girl and Chocolate boards literally my whole life and I've had no problems, and I always ride a size 8 but on my last board I tried 8 1/8, I didn't notice much but I went back to 8 anyways.

I also always rode Royals growing up, but I switched to thunders and noticed a little bit of a difference for the better, then to Indys when those were done and didn't notice much. I put Bones bushings in these and still not much difference.

As for shoes, I hate new shoes I've never gone to new shoes and skated as good as my old ones. My last shoes were Marianos, and I skated them til the rubber on the toe was almost gone from kick flips, and the grip lasted the whole time, and I just got 2 new pairs of them and I skated them today and just couldn't do my flip tricks every try. Worn in shoes are great. Same for trucks, new trucks suck but once you get the groove in you're good to go.
Title: Re: Set Up not working for you?
Post by: Martin on April 01, 2013, 01:23:50 PM
I am always really critical about my trucks. If I have a bad time of skating, I'll most likely put the blame on the trucks, like I cannot do proper kickflips anymore, because my trucks are too high/low or the turning is fucked up. In my mind I figured out that I need low but not too low trucks which are super responsive, so that I do not wheelbite all the time, have a quick pop and are still able to ride my trucks as loose as possible (Indy lows fit these criteria for the most part though). And yes, I am aware that this shit is regular.