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Title: XBox One
Post by: frisco on May 21, 2013, 10:20:59 AM
This is Microsofts big reveal.

It comes with a Kinect type camera, and you use hand gestures and voices to navigate the menu.

Personally I think Microsoft has missed the boat with their new "innovations".

I don't want to fucking skype my parents while I sit in my underwear and play Madden, same with the "snap mode" where you have picture-in-picture, maybe if you're in a menu or a load screen and you want to check a score but I'm distracted enough just playing games.

Not to mention the console is massive and the controller looks like a brick.

Feels like they took a step backwards.

The press conference is still going on
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Bubblegum Tate on May 21, 2013, 10:32:07 AM
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02569/xbox-one_2569256c.jpg)
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: The Human Condom on May 21, 2013, 10:35:06 AM
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Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: thugnificent on May 21, 2013, 10:41:28 AM
pretty unimpressed so far, is there weekly online fees? ill stick with playstation
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Donkey Lips on May 21, 2013, 10:47:24 AM
They're really good about downplaying the "gaming" in this gaming system.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Bubblegum Tate on May 21, 2013, 10:52:49 AM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/41291e9b23f3d0238ba101882717c682/tumblr_mn5q7kPtvQ1qz8x31o1_500.png)

Haha looks like a VCR. But Ill probably get it.

New COD game
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: frisco on May 21, 2013, 10:59:58 AM
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Haha looks like a VCR. But Ill probably get it.

New COD game

Ghosts? That has been announced for months. The only thing thats different for the XboxOne is they get the DLC (which is shit) a week early

I have a 360, but I'm definitely passing on this one.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Bubblegum Tate on May 21, 2013, 11:02:18 AM
^^
They are showing actual gameplay now, im watching it on the xbox live event player app.

DLC for Xbox is usually a month or so ahead of PS3.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: shone237 on May 21, 2013, 11:05:07 AM
ya, I cant see any reason to upgrade. The graphics aren't much better yet. The ai now moves very fluidly but still looks as awkward as the faces on bond64.

more like a cable box and a 360 taped together and wrapped in a plethora of contracts and hidden fees.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Cthulhu! on May 21, 2013, 11:23:09 AM
Just terrible. I will never buy this.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: kmdoom on May 21, 2013, 01:01:01 PM
They're really good about downplaying the "gaming" in this gaming system.

Yeah, people are really attached to all their devices and I know it sounds kind of old guy but it makes me sick. But I'm positive the gameplay for every game on this platform is going to be sick! All the added disk space for developers (just guessing) is going to make sports games that much better.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Tracer on May 21, 2013, 01:58:36 PM
(http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/topstories/2013/05/21/hi-852-xbox-one-rtxzvbb.jpg)

Can't believe they're still doing joysticks at different heights. PS3's controller is much better only because the joysticks are side by side
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: frisco on May 21, 2013, 03:40:09 PM
Wow it gets worse.

It is NOT backwards compatible. Say good-bye to all of your 360 games unless you have 2 consoles.

It will NOT work without the kinect. So you constantly have to keep that fucking camera pointed at you.

Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: landCow on May 21, 2013, 03:47:40 PM
more than any other generation of console I'm feeling a very much "wait and see" kind of attitude towards PS4 and Xbox One. It seems like Sony and Microsoft are trying to pack in the features to make their new consoles the family entertainment hub. This is good and I get it, it is handy to have everything under one roof so to speak but I look at consoles for ease of use to quickly boot something up and lose a couple of hours with mindless video gaming. Everything else is secondary to me. I don't really give a fuck about hardware and tech specs as long as there is interesting and fun gameplay.

I want Sony and Microsoft to show me something revolutionary in that regard. Not just Car Racer With Sweet Graphics 7 or Corridor Shooter 2014. I think mainstream gaming is pretty stale right now, like every AAA title is in a rut with a very tired and worn out formula and all the wizz bang multimedia features in the world are not going to change that.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: max power on May 21, 2013, 04:54:18 PM
i'll be waiting for sure. i can play shit on my PC or 360 in the meantime. i do like the look of the new xbox controller, except that you can't use rechargeable AA's anymore.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: MuchasGracias on May 21, 2013, 05:12:23 PM
I'm not fucking with the whole entertainment show everybody what you're doing every second thing. Like what Landcow said

I look at consoles for ease of use to quickly boot something up and lose a couple of hours with mindless video gaming. Everything else is secondary to me.

We have computers for that other kind of shit, it seems like they're just slowly evolving into PC's which is a let down really, I was hoping for Microsoft to really pull something different and new out of there ass, but no.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Mooley on May 21, 2013, 08:34:53 PM
I see so many people on gaming websites scoffing at this whole "entertainment system" idea, but it's got massive potential for Microsoft. More people access Netflix on gaming consoles than any other way, and if they play their cards right, Xbox One could be the go-to hub for a lot of other shit as well. It makes sense to try and pounce on that momentum, and really if their interface is more intuitive than your average PVR or Smart TV (and really, how could it not be?) I don't think people will think it's so ridiculous in a few years.

I'm not fucking with the whole entertainment show everybody what you're doing every second thing. Like what Landcow said

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I look at consoles for ease of use to quickly boot something up and lose a couple of hours with mindless video gaming. Everything else is secondary to me.
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We have computers for that other kind of shit, it seems like they're just slowly evolving into PC's which is a let down really, I was hoping for Microsoft to really pull something different and new out of there ass, but no.

But what's easier than walking into a room, using a voice command to turn your shit on and having a game ready to go in a matter of seconds? They actually seem to be doing some really clever shit with the hardware.

They're shooting themselves in the foot with so much other shit though, backwards compatibility and used games and all that. Hard to say how things will go, but I've got to at least wait until they start actually talking about games to pass judgment.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Bubblegum Tate on May 21, 2013, 09:04:59 PM
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/05/xbox-one-development-photos/ (http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/05/xbox-one-development-photos/)
(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/gadgetlab/2013/05/20130514-XBOX-ONE-004-660x440.jpg)
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: MuchasGracias on May 21, 2013, 09:12:36 PM
I see so many people on gaming websites scoffing at this whole "entertainment system" idea, but it's got massive potential for Microsoft. More people access Netflix on gaming consoles than any other way, and if they play their cards right, Xbox One could be the go-to hub for a lot of other shit as well. It makes sense to try and pounce on that momentum, and really if their interface is more intuitive than your average PVR or Smart TV (and really, how could it not be?) I don't think people will think it's so ridiculous in a few years.

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I'm not fucking with the whole entertainment show everybody what you're doing every second thing. Like what Landcow said

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I look at consoles for ease of use to quickly boot something up and lose a couple of hours with mindless video gaming. Everything else is secondary to me.
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We have computers for that other kind of shit, it seems like they're just slowly evolving into PC's which is a let down really, I was hoping for Microsoft to really pull something different and new out of there ass, but no.
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But what's easier than walking into a room, using a voice command to turn your shit on and having a game ready to go in a matter of seconds? They actually seem to be doing some really clever shit with the hardware.

They're shooting themselves in the foot with so much other shit though, backwards compatibility and used games and all that. Hard to say how things will go, but I've got to at least wait until they start actually talking about games to pass judgment.


Yeah I hear you, voice command and all that jazz can be helpful. It's just hard to like when they're focusing more on the entertainment side of things and less than just a gaming system. And that backwards compatibility thing is bullshit plus why are they hyping up that fucking COD game, im getting sick of that franchise.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: frisco on May 21, 2013, 09:34:34 PM
So lets say you buy Call of Duty Ghosts and you take it over to a buddies house so you guys can play splitscreen

That will cost 60 fucking dollars.

Games are locked to one system, so you can't lend games to friends or take a game anywhere else.

Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Bubblegum Tate on May 21, 2013, 10:05:35 PM
So lets say you buy Call of Duty Ghosts and you take it over to a buddies house so you guys can play splitscreen

That will cost 60 fucking dollars.

Games are locked to one system, so you can't lend games to friends or take a game anywhere else.



They haven't announced the prices of the games, but i bet it will be more than $60.  :-\
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: foureyedjim on May 22, 2013, 12:32:15 AM
In case you missed it:
Xbox One Reveal 2013 Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KbWgUO-Rqcw#ws)

but for real, fuck the xbox, I'm fine with my desktop honestly.  I can just buy another one of my graphics cards and be set for the next generation of games.  Not to mention I'm not really trying to sit and watch a bunch of TV all day.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Chipper on May 22, 2013, 02:53:25 AM
In case you missed it:
Xbox One Reveal 2013 Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KbWgUO-Rqcw#ws)

hahaha prefect
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: MuchasGracias on May 22, 2013, 03:01:37 AM
That's it, im getting a PS4. XboxOne can eat a dick.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: RoedGroed on May 22, 2013, 03:48:06 AM
That's it, im getting a PS4. XboxOne can eat a dick.

Glad they took that decision for me as well. I really liked my xbox360, and it was a draw between getting a ps4 or xbox, but this shit sealed the deal. Cant wait for my ps4!!
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Will Easley on May 22, 2013, 04:51:59 AM
Yeah PS4 it is for me. They both seemingly have the same amount of horsepower given the 8Gb RAM, but Sonys gonna have all the exclusive games while Xbox focuses on taking over the living room. Ps4 has most of the features of the Xbox (motion camera included) but when they did their reveal they focused mostly on the games, which pretty much has me sold. Also the day of the Xbox one reveal Sony announced they'd be revealing the actual console June 10th.

Also I think Xbox One is a bad name in a branding sense. They shoulda just ran with the rumored Xbox Infinity.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Donkey Lips on May 22, 2013, 07:36:33 AM
Microsoft denied rumors that they'll charge you for used/borrowed games, so that's not really a concern. I understand the direction they're taking. I don't agree with it and it's not what I'm looking for in a game system, but I understand that people want a unified system.

My old Xbox360 from 2006 and my PS3 are doing just fine for now and will probably be great for years.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: thugnificent on May 22, 2013, 08:24:33 AM
Microsoft denied rumors that they'll charge you for used/borrowed games, so that's not really a concern.

but what was their wording? I dont buy it
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Choad Muskrat on May 22, 2013, 08:36:29 AM
I'm in the same camp as most of you. I've always been down with xbox and xbox live, but all this TV and Entertainment features they are focusing on is really pissing me off. It's a fucking GAMING console. Everything else should come second.

The name is fucking stupid too. 720 would have been way better.

Xbox 1. Really? That's the best they could come up with? It just makes me think of this:

(http://xbmc.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Original_Xbox.jpeg)

Microsofts fucking blowing it.

Plus I'm not a playstation fan, no PS4 for me. Looks like I'm going to be building a gaming rig again in the not too distant future.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: max power on May 22, 2013, 09:35:19 AM
i'm reserving judgement until after E3 and waiting on the price announcement.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Choad Muskrat on May 22, 2013, 09:44:29 AM
as long as my 360 is still running, and BF4 runs I don't see myself even considering anything new for a while
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Donkey Lips on May 22, 2013, 10:15:56 AM
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Microsoft denied rumors that they'll charge you for used/borrowed games, so that's not really a concern.
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but what was their wording? I dont buy it
They posted on the Major Nelson blog about it saying that they will allow resale of used games and won't be blocking it. They haven't released details about it.


The name is fucking stupid too. 720 would have been way better.

They branded the console as XBox One for the reason that it's one source for TV, games, music...etc. That was they're reasoning behind that. They have no cohesive branding, never had it. To be honest I think the best route is to do what Sony is doing. Console 1, Console 2, Console 3...etc. It's just easier to keep track of. Microsoft has always sucked at this by naming things "Windows 2000" or "Office 2007"...as soon as 2008 comes around, your product just feels old based on name. At least they're getting it by naming Windows in numeral versions now.

I think both Xbox 360 and 720 are stupid. Because when you do a 360, guess where you end up? Right back in the same spot where you started. Same with a 720. From a naming perspective, they're dumb. They should've just stolen that kid's idea of XBox Infinity or whatever.

Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: frisco on May 22, 2013, 10:31:08 AM
Yeah PS4 it is for me. They both seemingly have the same amount of horsepower given the 8Gb RAM, but Sonys gonna have all the exclusive games while Xbox focuses on taking over the living room.

The Xbox One has 5Gb of RAM for gaming and 3 for the OS and other "features"
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Will Easley on May 22, 2013, 10:44:44 AM
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Yeah PS4 it is for me. They both seemingly have the same amount of horsepower given the 8Gb RAM, but Sonys gonna have all the exclusive games while Xbox focuses on taking over the living room.
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The Xbox One has 5Gb of RAM for gaming and 3 for the OS and other "features"

Damn nevermind that then. PS4's RAM is all unified. Granted they'll have to set aside some of that for the OS & share features, but it's still easier to work with. That was what made shit harder for developers on the ps3 cell processor. Overall it had a little bit more ram but the way it was allocated made it more diffcult to work with than the 360's with certain games ala skyrim & other multiplat games that didnt perform as well on ps3.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: frisco on May 22, 2013, 11:23:01 AM
(http://i.minus.com/iBzvb2JSpQNRM.gif)
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: jojo_fosho on May 22, 2013, 04:15:03 PM
The fact I can't use anything wired from my 360 is a huge dealbreaker for me. Not only that, but games being tied down to your account is pretty bullshit (if it ends up being true). I can't see why anyone would choose to get this over a PS4, or a PC for that matter.

And is Call of Duty really THAT big of a game, that they have a whole story on it? As much hype and new technology they're pushing for it, we all know it's going to be the same game we've been seeing for the past 8 years. If you guys are really this excited about COD, you should expand your FPS horizons.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: landCow on May 23, 2013, 12:32:23 AM
And is Call of Duty really THAT big of a game, that they have a whole story on it? As much hype and new technology they're pushing for it, we all know it's going to be the same game we've been seeing for the past 8 years. If you guys are really this excited about COD, you should expand your FPS horizons.

In my opinion COD is boring as all hell. I have never seen the appeal and I get the feeling even fans are becoming tired of it. Halo is pretty dull too...
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: brianwilson on May 23, 2013, 08:08:23 PM
The Xbox One will feature an 8-core cpu, 8GB of RAM, Blu Ray, 500GB Hard Drive, WiFi, HDMI, and USB 3.0. All of these specs combined make a pretty solid competitor to that of the PS4. Some things that may throw off buyers though, is that when buying a used game, you must pay a fee to Microsoft to play said game. Another is that the rumors of the next Xbox requiring an internet connection is sort of true. In an article from The Verge, Microsoft stated, "No, it does not have to be always connected, but Xbox One does require a connection to the internet." What this means is that you'll have to connect to the internet at least once a day. If this sounds weird we know, at this time Microsoft is a little cloudy on the subject.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Will Easley on May 23, 2013, 08:25:11 PM
^ Xbox One has 5gb RAM for games with the other 3 being used by the OS. PS4 has 7gb for games & the rest for its OS. they'll still be fairly matched for the most part but after a few years when the devs really start pushing the tech the PS4 will have the edge.

Really microsoft botched their reveal by focusing so little on the actual games, which was the number 1 reason why people were getting worried with all the rumors beforehand. they're not solely focused on the main reason to have a console in the first place. the games they did show were all CGI trailers & mainstream sports games + COD...all things that will already be available on ps4. They claimed to have 15 new exclusives with 8 of them being new IP's, so why not show some of them? why not give people a definitive reason to get a xbox1 over a ps4? granted e3 is weeks away where theyll prolly show alot more stuff, but still, first impressions are important.

sony showed AAA exclusives like infamous second son & the new killzone, as well as showed actual in-game footage, had actual game developers on stage talk about the console & its potential, and made sure everybody knew that the ps4 is made specifically hardcore gamers & game developers. microsoft didn't really do that. They seem to be more focused on the "mainstream" gamer with all their emphasis on sports & entertainment options.

i will say the controller looks good & the new kinect surprisingly seems to have alot of potential if used correctly, and this isn't the end of the world because even the ps3 stumbled pretty badly out of the gate when it first came out, but at the end of the day Sony set the bar pretty damn high with their reveal & microsoft didn't meet it. period.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: frisco on May 24, 2013, 07:20:22 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/543bc82935040edec47b22d15051abf3/tumblr_mnbhqgkPee1sr302to1_500.png)
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: landCow on May 24, 2013, 08:49:54 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/543bc82935040edec47b22d15051abf3/tumblr_mnbhqgkPee1sr302to1_500.png)

zing!

haha nice
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: shone237 on May 25, 2013, 10:52:44 AM
I think both ps4 and xbox 1 missed the mark. fanboyism aside they both obviously catered their new systems to outside interest over gamers.

 The ps4's press release was mostly about social media integration into your games, or as I see it, how they plan to make facebook money by selling your private information to marketing groups.

 The Xbox1's big sales point was television, movie and music integration, or as I see it, how the xbox will convince todays youth they need cable tv by impressing us with waggle support that will never work as promised.

 As one of the few suckers that own a kinect, I have zero interest in ever using is again, especially for some fake ass minority report tv controller that will never work as well as it was demonstrated/powerpoint presentation.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: max power on May 25, 2013, 11:09:57 AM
whatever i decide on, i'm gonna wait. first gen hardware is always a bit fucked. i have a feeling a lot of peoples minds will change after E3.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Thrillho on May 26, 2013, 02:43:12 AM


It is NOT backwards compatible. Say good-bye to all of your 360 games unless you have 2 consoles.


PS4 won't be backwards compatible either.  I give Sony credit though.  They kept allowing people to play their 20 year old games for a while.  It's too much work to emulate the hardware of multiple other consoles just so people can keep playing their old stuff.  I think it's fair to leave the responsibility of maintaining a console to the customer after that ship has sailed.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: MuchasGracias on May 31, 2013, 01:41:53 AM
I really want South Park to do an episode based on the new generation consoles.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Will Easley on June 06, 2013, 07:43:03 PM
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Microsoft has explained its full policies on Xbox One?s internet requirements, used game policies, transfers to friends, Kinect functionality and much more.
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http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/06/06/xbox-one-used-games-always-online-explained (http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/06/06/xbox-one-used-games-always-online-explained)


As someone who's actually had both an Xbox & Xbox 360, holy fuck microsoft is blowing it. The way they handle the used games sounds like a bunch of complicated bullshit & the always online seems like a pain in the ass. wow.


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You can game offline for up to 24 hours on your primary console, or one hour if you are logged on to a separate console.

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Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once.

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loaning or renting games won?t be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: max power on June 06, 2013, 08:51:14 PM
this shits being blown out of proportion. sony's gonna end up doing the same thing. the 24 hour check is bullshit too. when was the last time anyone's Xbox wasn't on the internet? I basically only play online and watch Netflix.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: frisco on June 07, 2013, 01:27:16 AM
(http://www.abload.de/img/drm4yjrw.png)
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: landCow on June 07, 2013, 02:55:49 AM
this shits being blown out of proportion. sony's gonna end up doing the same thing. the 24 hour check is bullshit too. when was the last time anyone's Xbox wasn't on the internet? I basically only play online and watch Netflix.

if the reaction on the internet is anything to go by there are many many people who do not have their 360 connected. not everyone can have an internet connection at all times let alone a 360 connected. what if Xbox live goes down? Or is hacked what happens then? Will everyone be completely screwed?

Me personally I never play online. I download a game here and there but for the most part I am offline.

Remember when consoles were simple? Fuck I might just buy a nes and play Castlevania until the end of time.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Donkey Lips on June 07, 2013, 07:21:23 AM
Ah fuck I'm not buying that. I haven't had my 360 plugged into the internet for years.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: shone237 on June 07, 2013, 10:30:00 AM
as long as my 360 is still running, and BF4 runs I don't see myself even considering anything new for a while

yup

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5EFADE5F1A6F7492 (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5EFADE5F1A6F7492)
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: ThugWaffle on June 07, 2013, 11:42:51 AM
I think im going PS4 this next gen. I got an Xbox atm and i love it but Microsoft needs to realize that king of the living room crap sucks.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: ice nine on June 07, 2013, 11:53:03 AM
I still don't get Netflix, just use torrents. I don't use online x box either for the last couple years.it'll all come down to the exclusives like always.

actually for me it comes down to skate 4, that's the only thing that could make me buy a new console in the next few years.but that's a one off personal thing
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Mooley on June 07, 2013, 12:10:01 PM
Well, time to build a gaming PC then. No way I'm spending $400 on this shit when I can get cheaper games with all the perks of having mods and actual developer support for only a couple hundred more.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: frisco on June 07, 2013, 01:29:51 PM
Well, time to build a gaming PC then. No way I'm spending $400 on this shit when I can get cheaper games with all the perks of having mods and actual developer support for only a couple hundred more.

The sales Steam has are so ridiculous
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: MuchasGracias on June 10, 2013, 04:15:25 AM
Ah fuck I'm not buying that. I haven't had my 360 plugged into the internet for years.

Neither have I.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: jim on June 10, 2013, 09:52:05 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/zzy1Npy.jpg)

dont do it
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: ThugWaffle on June 10, 2013, 11:09:50 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/zzy1Npy.jpg)

dont do it

Throw a towel over the kinect eye.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: foureyedjim on June 10, 2013, 11:31:30 AM
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Well, time to build a gaming PC then. No way I'm spending $400 on this shit when I can get cheaper games with all the perks of having mods and actual developer support for only a couple hundred more.
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The sales Steam has are so ridiculous

Owning a nice rig is great.
Also, I may or may not have paid for 80% of the games I've played
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: L33Tg33k on June 10, 2013, 11:33:36 AM
The only reason to buy an Xbox One is if all your friends buy and you like to play online games with them. If your friends aren't idiots they won't get the Xbox One and your problem is solved. Personally, I don't give a shit about Battle of Halo fields Call to War 9 and playing online with people is no priority of mine. On top of that PS4 has more exclusives that better fit my taste. Also, I don't understand why Xbox users stand for paying for online service. Shit's a straight up rip off. You guys should make a fuss about that.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: frisco on June 10, 2013, 12:52:59 PM
The only reason to buy an Xbox One is if all your friends buy and you like to play online games with them. If your friends aren't idiots they won't get the Xbox One and your problem is solved. Personally, I don't give a shit about Battle of Halo fields Call to War 9 and playing online with people is no priority of mine. On top of that PS4 has more exclusives that better fit my taste. Also, I don't understand why Xbox users stand for paying for online service. Shit's a straight up rip off. You guys should make a fuss about that.


Exactly^ With no backwards compatibility, it comes down to friends, exclusives and the controller.

The Xbox 360 was much cheaper than the PS3, with the Xbox One being retailed at 500$ plus Xbox Live Gold, you're looking at a 600$ console before games, still waiting for PS4 detail, I imagine it'll be around the same, but free online 

I have a 360 and I love the exclusives for it, but there is no way I'd pick the Xbox One over for PS4 for a new Halo and for early DLC

Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: max power on June 10, 2013, 01:11:50 PM
i'll get an xbox one, but not for a while. i still have a very capable pc.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: L33Tg33k on June 10, 2013, 05:10:32 PM
i'll get an xbox one, but not for a while. i still have a very capable pc.
Why?
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: max power on June 10, 2013, 06:35:10 PM
most people i know ill get xbox's, i pretty much only play games online and i like the xbox controllers a lot more. drm doesn't bother me, i haven't bought a used game in years. i couldn't care less about the ps4's exclusives, anything worth getting will be cross-platform or at least on pc.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: L33Tg33k on June 10, 2013, 08:11:59 PM
That's cool. We're like the opposite type of gamers. Most every game I get is used and I trade and borrow with people all the time. I have very little interest in playing online so it doesn't matter what my friends get. I never got used to the Xbox controller after coming off the PS2 and PS4 has most of the exclusives that I care about and/or titles that used to be exclusive are coming to the PS4 (Witcher 3).
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: NegativeCreep on June 12, 2013, 10:01:55 PM
Xbox One: A Space Odyssey (Parody) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sWcKtJj5_oY#ws)
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: MuchasGracias on June 12, 2013, 11:25:54 PM
Playstation 4
Xbox 1
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: frisco on June 13, 2013, 12:51:56 AM
Xbox One: A Space Odyssey (Parody) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sWcKtJj5_oY#ws)

I like Slap poster buseys more

Kinect 2.0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdhnookxG5Y#ws)
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: papasmurfsdog on June 13, 2013, 01:26:36 AM
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The only reason to buy an Xbox One is if all your friends buy and you like to play online games with them. If your friends aren't idiots they won't get the Xbox One and your problem is solved. Personally, I don't give a shit about Battle of Halo fields Call to War 9 and playing online with people is no priority of mine. On top of that PS4 has more exclusives that better fit my taste. Also, I don't understand why Xbox users stand for paying for online service. Shit's a straight up rip off. You guys should make a fuss about that.
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Exactly^ With no backwards compatibility, it comes down to friends, exclusives and the controller.

The Xbox 360 was much cheaper than the PS3, with the Xbox One being retailed at 500$ plus Xbox Live Gold, you're looking at a 600$ console before games, still waiting for PS4 detail, I imagine it'll be around the same, but free online 

I have a 360 and I love the exclusives for it, but there is no way I'd pick the Xbox One over for PS4 for a new Halo and for early DLC



But wait, Killer Instinct is free!!!(if you want to play a fighting game as one character and not pay money for the additional characters.......)
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: slapshakle on June 13, 2013, 02:20:55 AM
I think the real problem is the fact that you never actually own the game, you're just kind of renting it from Microsoft until they stop supporting the console. In 10 years time all those games you bought are gone, for me that's a killer. I still have all my games I've bought over the last 20 years and love going back to them from time to time. I don't want to invest heaps of cash into something I won't be able to use in the future.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Will Easley on June 13, 2013, 04:05:11 AM
Yeah above all else the way they handle the "always online" shit & used games is what's gonna kill em. What happens when the Xbox live servers go down or whatever reason? Stores like GameStop are obviously gonna be more inclined the support the ps4 over the xbox1 as well, with their dependency on used game sales. It would seem Microsoft was trying to appeal to game publishers with their used game policies, but in turn they kinda fucked over the consumers. The ps4 has way less restrictions, $100 cheaper, AND has better hardware specs, so it's really a no brainer. It's gonna be an uphill battle for MS & I think they're gonna have to resort to focusing on the "casual" gamer (ala the Wii) with tons of living room entertainment options, kinect games, and a bunch of other mainstream bullshit if they want to stand a chance at all. It's the most expensive console with the most restrictions & it doesn't even have the best hardware. It's a tough sell to say the least.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: chockfullofthat on June 14, 2013, 02:16:43 PM
Why do people get upset about backwards compatability?  You get next to nothing for selling your old systems, might as well keep them and dust them off every couple years or so.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: max power on June 14, 2013, 02:32:13 PM
Why do people get upset about backwards compatability?  You get next to nothing for selling your old systems, might as well keep them and dust them off every couple years or so.
yup.

the whole 'microsoft owns the games' shit is stupid. if you've ever bought a game on steam it's the same deal, you don't technically own it. i can't wait until it's all download only. less clutter on my shelf. you know EA and other developers are going to do a form of DRM not far off microsoft's model for the ps4, it will probably just be first party titles that don't. 

either way i'm waiting a couple months for them to get the hardware right. lord knows somethings going to be shitty about both of them at release.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: chockfullofthat on June 14, 2013, 02:43:21 PM
Why would they do that?  Do you still get a disc?
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Will Easley on June 14, 2013, 03:49:21 PM
Why would they do that?  Do you still get a disc?

Yeah you get a disk to install & "authenticate" your copy of the game but its all put on the hard drive
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: shone237 on June 14, 2013, 03:53:09 PM
that steam argument would work if Microsoft had Steam like price points. Instead they want to charge the maximum price while attaching the strictest of DRM restrictions. It's been a long standing joke how Xlive sells full games at almost twice it would cost to purchase the same game from a store new. The exact opposite as Steam.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: max power on June 14, 2013, 04:27:27 PM
the licensing is the same. definitely not the prices. they need to open the market to say amazon for direct downloads on the one for this to really work.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: papasmurfsdog on June 14, 2013, 06:41:31 PM
Why do people get upset about backwards compatability?  You get next to nothing for selling your old systems, might as well keep them and dust them off every couple years or so.

I wouldn't mind so much if the systems were reliable at all. I have an original PS working like a charm, but have had 2 ps2s completely shit out on me and my brother's Xbox barely got played and stopped working after like half a year.  Also there was that red ring of death with the Xbox 360. I have a NES and SNES that work perfectly though. I feel like neither Sony nor Microsoft build their shit to last anymore.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: layzieyez on June 14, 2013, 09:27:54 PM
I have a hacked wii that outlasted my Xbox 360 elite.  My dreamcasts, chipped psone, and ps2 that runs stuff from a harddrive is still working.  I've bought a replacement 360, but if that dies, I think I'll just stick to PC gaming for next gen games.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: frisco on June 15, 2013, 02:51:59 AM
I wish my PS2 still worked.

THPS2 THPS3 Battlefront 2, those were the days
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Dirty Daventry on June 15, 2013, 03:39:07 AM
I wish my PS2 still worked.

THPS2 THPS3 Battlefront 2, those were the days

Mine still works. I still play it occasionally. Tony Hawks Underground and GTA are the only games i need. Oh, and spyro.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: frisco on June 18, 2013, 08:05:22 PM
Last one

(http://i.minus.com/ib04oymE3m3fjV.gif)
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Big Skatefase on June 19, 2013, 01:31:15 PM
http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa (http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa)

microsoft will get rid of their DRM policies
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: swagdragon123 on June 19, 2013, 01:38:48 PM
http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa (http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa)

microsoft will get rid of their DRM policies
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Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: thugnificent on June 20, 2013, 06:34:35 AM
the fact that they are flip flopping makes me even less likely to buy an xbox one, shows they have no confidence in their product, they shoulda just stuck to their guns
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: MuchasGracias on June 20, 2013, 06:44:29 AM
All that revolutionary talk for nothing lol
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Donkey Lips on June 20, 2013, 08:07:02 AM
Didn't they claim the entire console was built around the DRM system and absolutely could not be reversed? Now it's reversed? They came out so hard and so confident saying that this was the way of the future, only to flip flop on it a few weeks later? Don Mattrick is just showing that his group doesn't know their consumers and doesn't know what the fuck they're trying to sell. They just want to have a black box out there on a shelf at the same time as Sony.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: Will Easley on June 20, 2013, 08:33:18 AM
the fact that they are flip flopping makes me even less likely to buy an xbox one, shows they have no confidence in their product, they shoulda just stuck to their guns

yeah this is more of Microsoft surrendering to Sony as opposed to them "listening to their consumers". They're still fucked on the price disadvantage and im sure theyve got ALOT of work to do reengineering software/hardware to make such a drastic change only a few months away from launch. Like I said before man there's no way the xbox one can compete with the ps4 as a straight up gaming console, so being the money-hungry company that microsoft is they're gonna have to work that casual market harder than ever. like, on some wii shit. "manage your fantasy sports teams as you flip thru TV channels using kinect as your remote" n shit like that. I wouldnt be surprised if they ended up going that route & selling well, actually.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: max power on June 20, 2013, 08:42:47 AM
i'm kind of pissed about this backtrack. they had a bunch of cool shit you could do sharing wise that you won't be able to do anymore. i don't really want to buy games on discs, so none of that shit mattered to me. hopefully they will re-implement it later on.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: L33Tg33k on June 20, 2013, 09:27:47 PM
One cool thing that they're taking away now is that you didn't have to keep the disc in the tray to play and could play the game on any Xbox you signed into, or at least that's how I understood it. Microsoft is just going out of their way to make sure no one is happy.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: max power on June 20, 2013, 10:21:05 PM
yup, they did a shitty job of explaining the good things about it.
Title: Re: XBox One
Post by: shone237 on June 21, 2013, 09:55:58 AM
I dont fully understand the features they are taking away but they sound just as superfluous as the kinect. I don't understand how having a physical disc in hand is more intrusive than downloading your game from a cloud to a friends xbox? That just sounds dumb, you know like waving your hands around hoping your kinect understands you instead of clicking a button with your thumb.