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Saw a post on FB, something about new 149s, anyone have the inside scoop? Switching to the teardrop yoke that's on all the 147s and below from last spring?
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I got a set to try, setting them up this weekend
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/photo-13.jpg)
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i love thunder hi's.. rode the 147s for 3 years..my only thing was that they were slightly lower than most hi's causing the kingpin to grind.. i hope they make the 147 hi's the smae height as the 149's.
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Damn I'd love to get my hands on them, when do they release? I've been riding a pair of 147's for some time now, best truck ever. Before that I had Thunder light's that lasted for a while. Never ridden any truck other than Thunder so these should be quality.
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I got a set to try, setting them up this weekend
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/photo-13.jpg)
Looks cool, but I don't see how it's all that different.
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So the only difference is that they're a few millimeters higher? I'm on Thunders right now after riding Indies for a long time and I don't understand how people discern between the minuscule height differences.
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They're actually considerably different side by side.
Shape of the hanger has changed, less metal on the bottom.
Angle of the pivot, it looks straighter than the original 149, meaning a quicker turn.
The height is a huge thing for me. I'll give some feedback on the response after this weekend.
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Fantastic! I rode exclusively Thunders for so many years, 147's and 149's, but i recently switched to Indy 149's and like the increased height from the Thunders. I might have to get a set of these since they're a little bit higher now.
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That pic is showing the recent mainliner truck; I wonder if that wave (and the Titanium Lights 2) are considered the new 149 'II'. Maybe the slipped them out early in those models?
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That pic is showing the recent mainliner truck; I wonder if that wave (and the Titanium Lights 2) are considered the new 149 'II'. Maybe the slipped them out early in those models?
That's what I was wondering, The pic in the ad shows the mainliners that have been out. so are they them? and if not how are you supposed to tell the difference?
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The old 149 hangers are much bulkier looking than the new ones.
(http://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/images/thunder-149ers-skateboard-trucks-high-polish-pair-p3082-18536_zoom.jpg)
The new version is not out in stores yet. I know the colorway looks the same but it's not them.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Thunder-Trucks-New-149-ii-HI-/111288231512 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Thunder-Trucks-New-149-ii-HI-/111288231512)
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Thunder-Trucks-New-149-ii-HI-/111288231512 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Thunder-Trucks-New-149-ii-HI-/111288231512)
Those aren't the new ones. Fuck I got psyched for a second there, can't fucking wait to get some!
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Thunder-Trucks-New-149-ii-HI-/111288231512 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Thunder-Trucks-New-149-ii-HI-/111288231512)
Those aren't the new ones. Fuck I got psyched for a second there, can't fucking wait to get some!
those are indeed the new ones...
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Thunder-Trucks-New-149-ii-HI-/111288231512 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Thunder-Trucks-New-149-ii-HI-/111288231512)
Those aren't the new ones. Fuck I got psyched for a second there, can't fucking wait to get some!
those are indeed the new ones...
Correct, same colorway I got.
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Stoked that they are redesigned the trucks. Ive had problems with wheelbite and the kingping grinding down. Hopefully they will still have the white bushings. Anyone know how much they will be?
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anyone know if they are gonna redesign the 147s too?
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anyone know if they are gonna redesign the 147s too?
They already did, but they should redesign those too. make them higher trucks coz thunder "HIs" are so damn low
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I just accepted that I have to ride risers. I get wheel bite no matter what.
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I've just accepted I get wheel bite no matter what.
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I've just accepted I get wheel bite no matter what.
When you have had enough, try some Theeves
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Thunder-Trucks-New-149-ii-HI-/111288231512 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Thunder-Trucks-New-149-ii-HI-/111288231512)
Those aren't the new ones. Fuck I got psyched for a second there, can't fucking wait to get some!
those are indeed the new ones...
I was looking for the graphic in the middle to identify them. They're sold now though.
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I just accepted that I have to ride risers. I get wheel bite no matter what.
i skate my shit pretty loose so wheel bite is bound to happen- i just dont like how the hangers on the 147 hi's are farily low to where the king pin gets grinded down
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We've all been testing them for about a month now, I ride very loose trucks on an 8.38 and sometimes would get wheel bite riding old 149's.
The new ones are considerably higher than the older ones, Indys are 55mm high at the axle, the new 149's are 52.3mm at the axle. So that makes a big difference. Also, as a big fan of smith grinds, the lower set kingpin makes quite a difference as well. We also just wanted to clean up the look of the truck in general, the older 149 hangers were pretty meaty, almost as thick as a venture hanger. The new ones better match the lines of the 147, and the 151.
Everyone should feel free to ask me specific questions about them if you have any.
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Just got em with your note xoxo ;D
See you soon!
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We've all been testing them for about a month now, I ride very loose trucks on an 8.38 and sometimes would get wheel bite riding old 149's.
The new ones are considerably higher than the older ones, Indys are 55mm high at the axle, the new 149's are 52.3mm at the axle. So that makes a big difference. Also, as a big fan of smith grinds, the lower set kingpin makes quite a difference as well. We also just wanted to clean up the look of the truck in general, the older 149 hangers were pretty meaty, almost as thick as a venture hanger. The new ones better match the lines of the 147, and the 151.
Everyone should feel free to ask me specific questions about them if you have any.
Release date?!?!?! I was gonna get some reg 149's the other day but if these are coming soon, I can defo barge it with my 147's until then...
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We've all been testing them for about a month now, I ride very loose trucks on an 8.38 and sometimes would get wheel bite riding old 149's.
The new ones are considerably higher than the older ones, Indys are 55mm high at the axle, the new 149's are 52.3mm at the axle. So that makes a big difference. Also, as a big fan of smith grinds, the lower set kingpin makes quite a difference as well. We also just wanted to clean up the look of the truck in general, the older 149 hangers were pretty meaty, almost as thick as a venture hanger. The new ones better match the lines of the 147, and the 151.
Everyone should feel free to ask me specific questions about them if you have any.
So it was just a clean up of the standard 149? Or all 149's (hollows, hollow lights, titanium's)?
Also if the new height is 52.3, what was the old height?
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We've all been testing them for about a month now, I ride very loose trucks on an 8.38 and sometimes would get wheel bite riding old 149's.
The new ones are considerably higher than the older ones, Indys are 55mm high at the axle, the new 149's are 52.3mm at the axle. So that makes a big difference. Also, as a big fan of smith grinds, the lower set kingpin makes quite a difference as well. We also just wanted to clean up the look of the truck in general, the older 149 hangers were pretty meaty, almost as thick as a venture hanger. The new ones better match the lines of the 147, and the 151.
Everyone should feel free to ask me specific questions about them if you have any.
Also if the new height is 52.3, what was the old height?
They will eventually replace all 149's that we make.
The height of the old 149's is between 50-51mm depending on bushing size/tightness.
More than just a clean up, pretty much a total overhaul.
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We've all been testing them for about a month now, I ride very loose trucks on an 8.38 and sometimes would get wheel bite riding old 149's.
The new ones are considerably higher than the older ones, Indys are 55mm high at the axle, the new 149's are 52.3mm at the axle. So that makes a big difference. Also, as a big fan of smith grinds, the lower set kingpin makes quite a difference as well. We also just wanted to clean up the look of the truck in general, the older 149 hangers were pretty meaty, almost as thick as a venture hanger. The new ones better match the lines of the 147, and the 151.
Everyone should feel free to ask me specific questions about them if you have any.
this is why DLX rules
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We've all been testing them for about a month now, I ride very loose trucks on an 8.38 and sometimes would get wheel bite riding old 149's.
The new ones are considerably higher than the older ones, Indys are 55mm high at the axle, the new 149's are 52.3mm at the axle. So that makes a big difference. Also, as a big fan of smith grinds, the lower set kingpin makes quite a difference as well. We also just wanted to clean up the look of the truck in general, the older 149 hangers were pretty meaty, almost as thick as a venture hanger. The new ones better match the lines of the 147, and the 151.
Everyone should feel free to ask me specific questions about them if you have any.
this is why DLX rules
exactly. also why I'm making the switch back from Indy to Thunder.
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Those look awesome, I already thought 149ers were perfect.. Def buying these if they're available at similar prices
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Everyone should feel free to ask me specific questions about them if you have any.
Release date, please?
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I've just accepted I get wheel bite no matter what.
Theeves are 55mm tall, most people riding tight and with small wheels won't get wheelbite with them ;) I'm riding a set of the V3s with 52mm wheels and I get wheelbite with'em.
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shredded a set yesterday for a couple hours indoors...broke in quickly. not enough time to really give an opinion, but felt good so far.
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag108/arthellman1/shred2_zps77f5cf96.jpg)
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Set mine up with bones hards, which I normally skate in indy stage 11s and they almost felt a little too stiff for me.
They are stable as hell, I haven't skated thunders in a while so hard to compare to a standard one, but I am already used to them.
Grind really well, minimal kingpin hangups.
I might be converted from indys.
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Everyone should feel free to ask me specific questions about them if you have any.
Release date, please?
Soon.
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We've all been testing them for about a month now, I ride very loose trucks on an 8.38 and sometimes would get wheel bite riding old 149's.
The new ones are considerably higher than the older ones, Indys are 55mm high at the axle, the new 149's are 52.3mm at the axle. So that makes a big difference. Also, as a big fan of smith grinds, the lower set kingpin makes quite a difference as well. We also just wanted to clean up the look of the truck in general, the older 149 hangers were pretty meaty, almost as thick as a venture hanger. The new ones better match the lines of the 147, and the 151.
Everyone should feel free to ask me specific questions about them if you have any.
Are the new 149s gonna have the white bushings or something else. Personally im a fan of the white ones since they are softer than other ones.
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We've all been testing them for about a month now, I ride very loose trucks on an 8.38 and sometimes would get wheel bite riding old 149's.
The new ones are considerably higher than the older ones, Indys are 55mm high at the axle, the new 149's are 52.3mm at the axle. So that makes a big difference. Also, as a big fan of smith grinds, the lower set kingpin makes quite a difference as well. We also just wanted to clean up the look of the truck in general, the older 149 hangers were pretty meaty, almost as thick as a venture hanger. The new ones better match the lines of the 147, and the 151.
Everyone should feel free to ask me specific questions about them if you have any.
Guessing different colorways of trucks have different bushings.
Polished always have the clear yellow.
Other colorways vary.
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We've all been testing them for about a month now, I ride very loose trucks on an 8.38 and sometimes would get wheel bite riding old 149's.
The new ones are considerably higher than the older ones, Indys are 55mm high at the axle, the new 149's are 52.3mm at the axle. So that makes a big difference. Also, as a big fan of smith grinds, the lower set kingpin makes quite a difference as well. We also just wanted to clean up the look of the truck in general, the older 149 hangers were pretty meaty, almost as thick as a venture hanger. The new ones better match the lines of the 147, and the 151.
Everyone should feel free to ask me specific questions about them if you have any.
Polished always have the clear yellow.
Other colorways vary.
This.
Also all the stock Thunder bushings that come in the trucks are 90 Duro, regardless of color.
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Any word on release date yet? I've heard good things about these.
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Any word on release date yet? I've heard good things about these.
They are out! We have a couple models in stock that are shipping to shops as we speak.
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Any word on release date yet? I've heard good things about these.
They are out! We have a couple models in stock that are shipping to shops as we speak.
Awesome I'll try to snatch a pair!
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I've never ridden Thunders because the stigma of how shitty they were in the 90s, but I'm interested. I don't need 149s because I don't ride boards that big, so my question is do the 147s come in the new height/lower kingpin blah blah?
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but when's meta gettin' them bro?
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I don't need 149s because I don't ride boards that big, so my question is do the 147s come in the new height/lower kingpin blah blah?
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I don't need 149s because I don't ride boards that big, so my question is do the 147s come in the new height/lower kingpin blah blah?
We are constantly looking for ways to improve all of our products, but we overhauled the 147 a couple years ago. So it will be a while before any changes are made to the 147.
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When are these going to hit the UK? Shiner haven't haven't responded to my emails
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I want to pick up a new set for summer. How will we be able to identify these new 149's from the old ones? are they going to have any identifiable markings/ a sticker, or anything on them?
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I want to pick up a new set for summer. How will we be able to identify these new 149's from the old ones? are they going to have any identifiable markings/ a sticker, or anything on them?
They should all have a new sticker on the hanger, and also they have an embossed 149 on the inside/bottom of the hanger.
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They're mediocre. A couple MM lower than independents, so I've been having lots of wheel bite. The kingpin also sits higher, so high the nut scrapes ledges with 50-50s. They also turn like Aces (fast). I miss riding my Indys though... if only they made 8.25 trucks.
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They're mediocre. A couple MM lower than independents, so I've been having lots of wheel bite. The kingpin also sits higher, so high the nut scrapes ledges with 50-50s. They also turn like Aces (fast). I miss riding my Indys though... if only they made 8.25 trucks.
You must have the older version. With the new ones the kingpin sits below the entire axle (more KP clearance than Indy Stage 11). They seem about as high as Indy Stage 10 (maybe a fraction lower).
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@LennyDLX - question regarding the first run of 149s. Is the geometry the same on the forged baseplate Team Series trucks (The Blue/Yellow 'Draft' for example) and the aluminum baseplate Hollow Lights ('Space Dust' for example).
The reason I ask is because my bushings seem to fit differently in team series 149s vs Lights and Hollow Lights. (using the same bushings in each) The holes are also punched a little differently. I currently have 5 pair of 149s I am rotating, so I notice little differences. Could also just be manufacturing tolerances.
And for the record, always been a huge fan of Thunder as I've skated them exclusively since the early 90s. Back in the days of Skull/Crossbones, Salamanders, and Daggers on the baseplates!
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They're mediocre. A couple MM lower than independents, so I've been having lots of wheel bite. The kingpin also sits higher, so high the nut scrapes ledges with 50-50s. They also turn like Aces (fast). I miss riding my Indys though... if only they made 8.25 trucks.
You must have the older version. With the new ones the kingpin sits below the entire axle (more KP clearance than Indy Stage 11). They seem about as high as Indy Stage 10 (maybe a fraction lower).
Shoot, I bought them from an eBay seller claiming they're II's. Guess I got stuck with the originals. :(
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They're mediocre. A couple MM lower than independents, so I've been having lots of wheel bite. The kingpin also sits higher, so high the nut scrapes ledges with 50-50s. They also turn like Aces (fast). I miss riding my Indys though... if only they made 8.25 trucks.
You must have the older version. With the new ones the kingpin sits below the entire axle (more KP clearance than Indy Stage 11). They seem about as high as Indy Stage 10 (maybe a fraction lower).
Shoot, I bought them from an eBay seller claiming they're II's. Guess I got stuck with the originals. :(
Could be. Do yours say '149' on the underside of the hangar? They should if they are the new ones. I've been using the ones with the regular (not forged) baseplates which are a bit higher, a small riser and 55mm wheels. No wheelbite whatsoever and really nice smooth in and out of smiths. Just got to break in the bushings...
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@LennyDLX - question regarding the first run of 149s. Is the geometry the same on the forged baseplate Team Series trucks (The Blue/Yellow 'Draft' for example) and the aluminum baseplate Hollow Lights ('Space Dust' for example).
The reason I ask is because my bushings seem to fit differently in team series 149s vs Lights and Hollow Lights. (using the same bushings in each) The holes are also punched a little differently. I currently have 5 pair of 149s I am rotating, so I notice little differences. Could also just be manufacturing tolerances.
And for the record, always been a huge fan of Thunder as I've skated them exclusively since the early 90s. Back in the days of Skull/Crossbones, Salamanders, and Daggers on the baseplates!
There is a difference in the fact that the 149 light baseplates are about a millameter shorter but I don't think that this is causeing the difference that he's seeing. The difference is probably from the fact that the bushings that come stock in the team truck have a difference duro than the bushings that come stock in the light and hollow trucks. Which means they will respond differently when skated.
-From one of the production designers.
- sometimes we make mistakes- Sorry.
To clarify, All the bushings that come stock in Thunders are 90 Duro. That being said, urethane cures as it ages, so that could be affecting board feel. Sorry for the confusion.
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So which ones are softer?
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There is a difference in the fact that the 149 light baseplates are about a millameter shorter but I don't think that this is causeing the difference that he's seeing. The difference is probably from the fact that the bushings that come stock in the team truck have a difference duro than the bushings that come stock in the light and hollow trucks. Which means they will respond differently when skated.
- sometimes we make mistakes- Sorry.
To clarify, All the bushings that come stock in Thunders are 90 Duro. That being said, urethane cures as it ages, so that could be affecting board feel. Sorry for the confusion.
That wasn't really my question. Of course I know how different duro bushings respond. I've been skating for over 20 years. And for the record, I don't use Thunder stock bushings anyway, because they are pretty bad...in any durometer. I generally use Bones or Khiro. Maybe it's also the thicker coating on the painted hangers making the bushings fit differently.... but either way it's not that big of a deal I was just asking because of being a gear geek. It has absolutely no effect on my skating. Thanks anyway Lenny.
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Where the hell can I get a set of these?
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Where the hell can I get a set of these?
I saw them at Cowtown (my local core shop), so I'd just say go to the biggest core shop in your area.
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is there a difference in baseplates of the lights and team ed in terms of feel and turn? planning to get new149's not sure to get the forged or normal baseplate.
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IMO, yes. The non-forged are slightly higher and will give you a bit more leverage. The forged look far better though and with the hollow KP feel lighter, if you care about weight. I prefer the non-forged as I ride 55mm+ wheels most of the time. You could always get the forged and use a riser...
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Couldn't find them anywhere/taking too long to get to market; picked up some 8.25" Theeves instead.
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Couldn't find them anywhere/taking too long to get to market; picked up some 8.25" Theeves instead.
Lol Theeves.
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Ripped Laces did a review:
http://www.rippedlaces.com/2014/04/yes-the-new-thunder-149ii-is-different-better/ (http://www.rippedlaces.com/2014/04/yes-the-new-thunder-149ii-is-different-better/)
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Ripped Laces did a review:
http://www.rippedlaces.com/2014/04/yes-the-new-thunder-149ii-is-different-better/ (http://www.rippedlaces.com/2014/04/yes-the-new-thunder-149ii-is-different-better/)
I know everything really comes down to personal preference but this seems to seal the deal. Too bad I just got the old 149s not too long ago. DLX should start up a trade-in program (only half joking).
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Couldn't find them anywhere/taking too long to get to market; picked up some 8.25" Theeves instead.
Lol Theeves.
You've obviously never ridden them, and I don't blame you.
They're PROBABLY the best kept secret in skateboarding.
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Couldn't find them anywhere/taking too long to get to market; picked up some 8.25" Theeves instead.
Lol Theeves.
Ill take theeve's over garbage ass thunders any day.
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I'm thinking of trying these. I ride 8.25, would they go perfect or would the hangar stick out a bit?
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I'm thinking of trying these. I ride 8.25, would they go perfect or would the hangar stick out a bit?
They are a 8.25" axle.
So it would be a perfect fit.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj3FxH7RYSQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj3FxH7RYSQ)
Who is this "Max" dude? I'd like to see more of him, he fuckin' ripped.
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How bad is the wheelbite on these? I ride loose trucks and always get a little bit of wheel rub but when I bought a pair of the old 149ers and tried to skate a 56mm wheel I got straight up pitched to the ground. I liked the weight and the way ollies felt but I ditched those trucks quick...
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Couldn't find them anywhere/taking too long to get to market; picked up some 8.25" Theeves instead.
Lol Theeves.
You've obviously never ridden them, and I don't blame you.
They're PROBABLY the best kept secret in skateboarding.
For real, i was strictly indy for years, and the tried the new v3's. They turn and grind perfect.
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Don't even mention bitch theeve in a thunder thread, thunders are way better. Overpriced bullshit who needs titanium trucks fuckin posers
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How bad is the wheelbite on these? I ride loose trucks and always get a little bit of wheel rub but when I bought a pair of the old 149ers and tried to skate a 56mm wheel I got straight up pitched to the ground. I liked the weight and the way ollies felt but I ditched those trucks quick...
I ride loose trucks with 55mm and an 1/8th riser. There are marks where the wheels rub but I have not had wheelbite bad enough to pitch me. I think 56mm will be fine with a small riser and the regular baseplates.
I have also used the 151 (which are the same height as the new 149s) with 58mm (and small riser) and not hide serious wheelbite issues.
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(http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/xx93/getbuck_2010/51C50271-BF76-4BEF-B94F-74D39D17D32B_zpsznurrrgq.jpg)
These with the bones mediums and 52mm wheels is perfect.
My friend was working at Theeve at the time and hooked us all up. I loved em. Most of us did. I had the super fancy/lite ones and a kid at the park offered me 50 bucks for them. Beer money. I had my 149ers to go back to anyway.
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We've all been testing them for about a month now, I ride very loose trucks on an 8.38 and sometimes would get wheel bite riding old 149's.
The new ones are considerably higher than the older ones, Indys are 55mm high at the axle, the new 149's are 52.3mm at the axle. So that makes a big difference. Also, as a big fan of smith grinds, the lower set kingpin makes quite a difference as well. We also just wanted to clean up the look of the truck in general, the older 149 hangers were pretty meaty, almost as thick as a venture hanger. The new ones better match the lines of the 147, and the 151.
Everyone should feel free to ask me specific questions about them if you have any.
Polished always have the clear yellow.
Other colorways vary.
This.
Also all the stock Thunder bushings that come in the trucks are 90 Duro, regardless of color.
So no matter what color the bushing is they're all 90 duro, I'm glad this was brought to light. I feel like a ton of people think they're different duro based on color. Even in the RL review they mention it.
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I'm thinking of trying these. I ride 8.25, would they go perfect or would the hangar stick out a bit?
They are a 8.25" axle.
So it would be a perfect fit.
wait, what? I thought 149s were an 8.5" axle.. at least that's what it says on the site.
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I'm thinking of trying these. I ride 8.25, would they go perfect or would the hangar stick out a bit?
They are a 8.25" axle.
So it would be a perfect fit.
wait, what? I thought 149s were an 8.5" axle.. at least that's what it says on the site.
Sorry, they are about 8.5" but they work perfect for 8.25' boards.
You can't really notice any overhang.
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I'm thinking of trying these. I ride 8.25, would they go perfect or would the hangar stick out a bit?
They are a 8.25" axle.
So it would be a perfect fit.
wait, what? I thought 149s were an 8.5" axle.. at least that's what it says on the site.
Sorry, they are about 8.5" but they work perfect for 8.25' boards.
You can't really notice any overhang.
Damn, Lenny, you almost got me fucked up.
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I'm thinking of trying these. I ride 8.25, would they go perfect or would the hangar stick out a bit?
They are a 8.25" axle.
So it would be a perfect fit.
Sorry, they are about 8.5" but they work perfect for 8.25' boards.
You can't really notice any overhang.
149s also work well on 8.125.
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I'm thinking of trying these. I ride 8.25, would they go perfect or would the hangar stick out a bit?
They are a 8.25" axle.
So it would be a perfect fit.
wait, what? I thought 149s were an 8.5" axle.. at least that's what it says on the site.
Sorry, they are about 8.5" but they work perfect for 8.25' boards.
You can't really notice any overhang.
It's cool, you just had me really stoked for a second haha
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I rode my old 147's today and didn't like them at all compared to my Indys. Sorry DLX. Maybe if Thunder starts making a truck similar to Indy 169's I'd try them. Just can't see myself going back to 149s on an 8.5.
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I'm running ACE55s (8.8") on an 8.5" (down from an 8.8") and it feels so odd, I couldn't imagine 169s on an 8.5" - do your wheels stick out?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj3FxH7RYSQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj3FxH7RYSQ)
Who is this "Max" dude? I'd like to see more of him, he fuckin' ripped.
Max Garson, He rides for Meta Skateboards in Boulder, Colorado. In fact the whole Meta team rips Jack Spanbauer, Josh Steele, Max, Will Garson, and etc. They have a dope video the Holy Crail and Max, Jack and Josh are all in the Null "Nothing" video.
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Who is this "Max" dude? I'd like to see more of him, he fuckin' ripped.
Max Garson, He rides for Meta Skateboards in Boulder, Colorado. In fact the whole Meta team rips Jack Spanbauer, Josh Steele, Max, Will Garson, and etc. They have a dope video the Holy Crail and Max, Jack and Josh are all in the Null "Nothing" video.
I actually saw his part in the Null video like 5 minutes ago. Haha. Sick style and awesome trick selection.
Worth a watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH0iPdqK2UQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH0iPdqK2UQ)
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I'm running ACE55s (8.8) on an 8.5" (down from an 8.8) and it feels so odd, I couldn't imagine 169s on an 8.5 - do your wheels stick out?
Just the curved part on the side and the end of the axle, nothing too bad.
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Don't even mention bitch theeve in a thunder thread, thunders are way better. Overpriced bullshit who needs titanium trucks fuckin posers
Thunder makes a titanium truck too.
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Don't even mention bitch theeve in a thunder thread, thunders are way better. Overpriced bullshit who needs titanium trucks fuckin posers
Thunder makes a titanium truck too.
thunders are just titanium axles, the theeves are a full titanium hanger. they grind weird and smell awful when you do.
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Does anyone know if the warranty on Thunders includes when the axle is too damaged and needs to be re-threaded? Or is re-threading an easy DIY fix?
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Does anyone know if the warranty on Thunders includes when the axle is too damaged and needs to be re-threaded? Or is re-threading an easy DIY fix?
(http://skateparkoftampa.com/spot/productimages/colors/1296_62687.jpg)
I think Pig makes a tool with a re-threader on it as well for cheaper
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Who is this "Max" dude? I'd like to see more of him, he fuckin' ripped.
Max Garson, He rides for Meta Skateboards in Boulder, Colorado. In fact the whole Meta team rips Jack Spanbauer, Josh Steele, Max, Will Garson, and etc. They have a dope video the Holy Crail and Max, Jack and Josh are all in the Null "Nothing" video.
Is this park in CO? If so, where? Thank you
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This whole idea of heightening trucks is a bad idea. Reg 149ers were perfect, the fact they're lower keeps me from riding indys
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Don't even mention bitch theeve in a thunder thread, thunders are way better. Overpriced bullshit who needs titanium trucks fuckin posers
Thunder makes a titanium truck too.
They smell awful? Lmfao.
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It is a damn strange smell fringing titanium hangers on concrete. Those trucks are awesome but don't grind as far as thunder titanium with the regular hanger thats for sure
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Just got my package from SW, it looks like they sent me ONE 149II and one old one.
One has the embossed 149, sticker stating II, hanger kingpin area is squarish with a more swoop-like hanger line (kida indy-like really) and the non-teardrop bushing seat under the hanger and it's clearly taller.
Other one one has no sticker, teardrop hanger seat, no embossing, hanger kingpin area is rounded with angled lines, and is lower...nice work SW.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-c1lD2XXuLpo/U5dkK0WPNQI/AAAAAAAATRY/2R6Ld2oZVUA/s800/IMG_20140610_123122.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-PMaGAuYveIk/U5dg0ydtaoI/AAAAAAAATQ4/Q7MgQRkhpCs/s800/IMG_20140610_123143.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-B1CrmOP-eXo/U5dg09YtyEI/AAAAAAAATRA/b_YHUWeP63A/s800/IMG_20140610_123204.jpg)
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Just got my package from SW, it looks like they sent me ONE 149II and one old one.
One has the embossed 149, sticker stating II, hanger kingpin area is squarish and the non-teardrop bushing seat under the hanger and it's clearly taller.
Other one one has no sticker, teardrop hanger seat, no embossing, hanger kingpin area is rounded, and is lower...nice work SW.
PM'd
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At least you can compare the old and new.... since you have them, can you tell me whether the hangars are exactly the same width or not? I have a feeling the new ones are a tad wider...
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Don't even mention bitch theeve in a thunder thread, thunders are way better. Overpriced bullshit who needs titanium trucks fuckin posers
Thunder makes a titanium truck too.
They smell awful? Lmfao.
it sounds crazy but it's true. the heat/friction during the grind causes an odd burning smell from the titanium. If you ever had an old school train set as a kid, you'd recognize the smell.
glad i got a kook out of this.
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Fucking joke that these haven't hit the UK yet. If anyone from Shiner is reading this - You are blowin it!
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Don't even mention bitch theeve in a thunder thread, thunders are way better. Overpriced bullshit who needs titanium trucks fuckin posers
Thunder makes a titanium truck too.
They smell awful? Lmfao.
glad i got a kook out of this.
Only the Theeve Tih is a full titanium hanger, the others are a 'blend' which really only consists of .012% ti, pure marketing.
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So I'm guessing the old 149s are going to be totally phased out? I kind of liked them at that height :/
Oops, I'm dumb. I just went back to the first page and had my question answered.
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I got some 149 hollow lights right before the new 149'ers came out.
And I'm getting some horrible axl slip on them.
So I'm wondering if DLX would replace them. Even though they are not the new 149's
Do they offer a warranty?
Any help would be great. LennyDLXSF you out there?
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I got some 149 hollow lights right before the new 149'ers came out.
And I'm getting some horrible axl slip on them.
So I'm wondering if DLX would replace them. Even though they are not the new 149's
Do they offer a warranty?
Any help would be great. LennyDLXSF you out there?
Same here. I just skated them for about two weeks.
Now I always have to carry a tool with me to tighten/loosen the wheels.
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DLX are usually really good about replacing faulty stuff. send an emailto [email protected] and they'll probably ask you to mail the trucks to them. I once had a set of spitfires which immediately split from their cores and DLX wound up sending me two replacement sets. great crew over there!
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I got some 149 hollow lights right before the new 149'ers came out.
And I'm getting some horrible axl slip on them.
So I'm wondering if DLX would replace them. Even though they are not the new 149's
Do they offer a warranty?
Any help would be great. LennyDLXSF you out there?
Same here. I just skated them for about two weeks.
Now I always have to carry a tool with me to tighten/loosen the wheels.
Don't forget the old trick of banging the other wheel/axle on the ground to get it to slip back...
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DLX are usually really good about replacing faulty stuff. send an emailto [email protected] and they'll probably ask you to mail the trucks to them.I once had a set of spitfires which immediately split from their cores and DLX wound up sending me two replacement sets. great crew over there!
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I got some 149 hollow lights right before the new 149'ers came out.
And I'm getting some horrible axl slip on them.
So I'm wondering if DLX would replace them. Even though they are not the new 149's
Do they offer a warranty?
Any help would be great. LennyDLXSF you out there?
Same here. I just skated them for about two weeks.
Now I always have to carry a tool with me to tighten/loosen the wheels.
Don't forget the old trick of banging the other wheel/axle on the ground to get it to slip back...
Yeah I know that trick, it just gets very annoying having to do it every time I pick my board up.
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I love the turning, grinding and looks of the new thunders but I am wondering why the base plate is made so short? I had a pair of the "1's" or old 49'ers and would always get pitched when trying nose/tail slides with 54-55mm wheels. When nose/tail sliding your wheels hit before the base plate making your slides way shorter than when riding most every other truck I can think of on the market. If you are curious line up the mounting hardware hole on thunders to a set of indy, ace, theeve, krux, venture, royal, silver, tensor etc. and you will see that there is much less metal sticking out from the outside edge of the base plate.
Has this been remedied for the new version?
Does DLX have plans to change this in the future?
Has anyone figured out a fix for this (hard riser pads?) or am I missing something else obvious (angle of nose/tail) that will help me get my slide on?
Yes, more wax could help but it seems like an obvious design flaw that I am sure others have been frustrated with....
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I love the turning, grinding and looks of the new thunders but I am wondering why the base plate is made so short? I had a pair of the "1's" or old 49'ers and would always get pitched when trying nose/tail slides with 54-55mm wheels. When nose/tail sliding your wheels hit before the base plate making your slides way shorter than when riding most every other truck I can think of on the market. If you are curious line up the mounting hardware hole on thunders to a set of indy, ace, theeve, krux, venture, royal, silver, tensor etc. and you will see that there is much less metal sticking out from the outside edge of the base plate.
Has this been remedied for the new version?
Does DLX have plans to change this in the future?
Has anyone figured out a fix for this (hard riser pads?) or am I missing something else obvious (angle of nose/tail) that will help me get my slide on?
Yes, more wax could help but it seems like an obvious design flaw that I am sure others have been frustrated with....
It was a design choice to re-center the holes with the advent of the new school mounting pattern. This was changed a long, long time ago (mid 90s I think). It makes it easier to reach the nuts rear with a skate tool.
Check out a pair of Ventures and you'll see the holes are almost under the hanger. A real bitch to mount.
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DLX are usually really good about replacing faulty stuff. send an emailto [email protected] and they'll probably ask you to mail the trucks to them. I once had a set of spitfires which immediately split from their cores and DLX wound up sending me two replacement sets. great crew over there!
I would have to send them from CPH to SF. As long as it doesn`t bother me too much, I`ll be fine with them.
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local shops will often replace indys, you dont have to go direct to the source.
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DLX are usually really good about replacing faulty stuff. send an emailto [email protected] and they'll probably ask you to mail the trucks to them. I once had a set of spitfires which immediately split from their cores and DLX wound up sending me two replacement sets. great crew over there!
DLX warranty department is the worsts they never reply to emails they say they never get the item you sent even when you provide a tracking number!
And if you sent them something in the past they won?t replace any other item even if it falls under warranty!
Screw Deluxe!!!
Sorry, but that is just not true.
I respond to all legitimate warranty claims.
If you did not receive a replacement, then your claim did not meet the requirements for one.
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I love the turning, grinding and looks of the new thunders but I am wondering why the base plate is made so short? I had a pair of the "1's" or old 49'ers and would always get pitched when trying nose/tail slides with 54-55mm wheels. When nose/tail sliding your wheels hit before the base plate making your slides way shorter than when riding most every other truck I can think of on the market. If you are curious line up the mounting hardware hole on thunders to a set of indy, ace, theeve, krux, venture, royal, silver, tensor etc. and you will see that there is much less metal sticking out from the outside edge of the base plate.
Has this been remedied for the new version?
Does DLX have plans to change this in the future?
Has anyone figured out a fix for this (hard riser pads?) or am I missing something else obvious (angle of nose/tail) that will help me get my slide on?
Yes, more wax could help but it seems like an obvious design flaw that I am sure others have been frustrated with....
I'm with you on this one. I skate 51, max 52mm wheels and I always get stuck on talislides and noseslides because the wheels hit the ledge before the baseplate. I skated Thunders for years but recently changed back to Ventures only for this reason. On Ventures, the baseplate kind of comes out more, thus being the first part to hit the ledge instead of the wheels. Because of that, slidetricks don't have to be locked in perfectly, and still be able to slide.
That sucks cause Thunders are the best trucks otherwise. If this issue was dealt with, I'd never skate any other truck. Like mentioned above, I'm sure a lot of people who can't sit perfectly on their tailslides everytime, struggle with this.
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DLX are usually really good about replacing faulty stuff. send an emailto [email protected] and they'll probably ask you to mail the trucks to them. I once had a set of spitfires which immediately split from their cores and DLX wound up sending me two replacement sets. great crew over there!
DLX warranty department is the worsts they never reply to emails they say they never get the item you sent even when you provide a tracking number!
And if you sent them something in the past they won?t replace any other item even if it falls under warranty!
Screw Deluxe!!!
Sorry, but that is just not true.
I respond to all legitimate warranty claims.
If you did not receive a replacement, then your claim did not meet the requirements for one.
If that was true Reed why would you say the following
Send me your address and I?ll get a replacement set sent out to you asap!
Thanks,
-Reed
Screw Deluxe
Email me your info again, I'll check it out.
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Lenny, you're like the epitome of cool customer service under harsh barge pressure. Good job
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I just asked a question about my trucks and DLX warranty polices, in this thread. A day later Lenny sent me a PM.
Now I'd say that's some good fucking customer service.
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DLX has the best customer service of any company in any industry. Bar none.
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DLX has the best customer service of any company in any industry. Bar none.
This is your first warranty issue!
Wait until you additional warranty issues like myself I am sure you will change your TUNE!
I have been running deluxe products since 1987!!!!
SCREW DELUXE!!!
Based on your punctuation and diction, i'm guessing you also have a Nigerian relative whose fortune you are awaiting if you can just have someone in the U.S. wire some administrative costs to an account...
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DLX has the best customer service of any company in any industry. Bar none.
This is your first warranty issue!
Wait until you additional warranty issues like myself I am sure you will change your TUNE!
I have been running deluxe products since 1987!!!!
SCREW DELUXE!!!
in my experience they have the best customer service. period. i might have posted this before, i might not have, i don't know. 7 years ago i was working in a shop. i got a set of thunders where my wheels wouldn't spin. i thought it had to be the axle. i called up our rep to explain the situation and i asked him if he wanted me to send them back first. he said don't even send them, and he sent out some replacement trucks. the problem ended up being the bearings pushing out of the wheels. i called him back to see if he wanted me to send back the trucks or to charge them to our next order. he said don't even worry about it. i was stoked
i'm not sure if it was because of how often and how much we ordered, but every single order came with extra stuff. boards, wheels, bearings, trucks, hats, etc.and it always got invoiced as promo gear. we only asked for promo gear for contests, but each order came with extras. i think we were doing 4-6 deluxe orders a month
i posted something on here about eight years ago about having an anti hero board that felt like it had a soft tail. by the end of the day i got an email and phone call from jim t. offering to replace it
the summer before spitfire came out with the f1's they pretty much sponsored the entire messageboard. they were sending all of us samples to try out before they came out. kind of like how lenny/reed sent out the f4's to certain posters
i had some f4's where the urethane started to fall apart. reed sent out replacement wheels almost instantly
deluxe has the best customer service out of anyone, on top of the best hardgoods.
/dlxsf fanboy post
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DLX has the best customer service of any company in any industry. Bar none.
This is your first warranty issue!
Wait until you additional warranty issues like myself I am sure you will change your TUNE!
I have been running deluxe products since 1987!!!!
SCREW DELUXE!!!
i'm not sure if it was because of how often and how much we ordered, but every single order came with extra stuff. boards, wheels, bearings, trucks, hats, etc.and it always got invoiced as promo gear. we only asked for promo gear for contests, but each order came with extras. i think we were doing 4-6 deluxe orders a month
i posted something on here about eight years ago about having an anti hero board that felt like it had a soft tail. by the end of the day i got an email and phone call from jim t. offering to replace it
the summer before spitfire came out with the f1's they pretty much sponsored the entire messageboard. they were sending all of us samples to try out before they came out. kind of like how lenny/reed sent out the f4's to certain posters
i had some f4's where the urethane started to fall apart. reed sent out replacement wheels almost instantly
deluxe has the best customer service out of anyone, on top of the best hardgoods.
/dlxsf fanboy post
?\_(ツ)_/?
No company wants bad or negative posts on the internet.
So if you post it here or anywhere else on the internet they will jump to fix it, I have never posted or complained about there products or there service until now. I would just mail the item back with all my contact information. They never responded to me no email or phone call telling me that they cant help me. When i did I get through to them i would provided tracking numbers and they would we never got it.
I have been buying skate products since the mid 80's most of my old boards were SMA Jim T graphics and old thunder trucks.
My experience with Deluxe's warranty department has always been difficult.
What i am getting from your comment is that i should post my problem here and Jimmy T or the warranty department will jump to replace my items. thanks :)
My opinion with good reason
( SCREW DELUXE )
Look, Just email me again with your information so I can pull up your file.
We're not trying to screw anyone here.
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I was skating these and got horrible axel slip.
(http://i59.tinypic.com/15znm68.jpg)
And today I received these in the mail?
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2chq9md.jpg)
I like thunders, but I figured they would have replaced with the same trucks. Or some similar SILVER trucks.
We'll looks like I will have to sell these.
Customer service was quick. But getting these trucks in return, kinda sours me a little bit about DLX.
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^not even close.
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I was skating these and got horrible axel slip.
(http://i59.tinypic.com/15znm68.jpg)
And today I received these in the mail?
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2chq9md.jpg)
I like thunders, but I figured they would have replaced with the same trucks. Or some similar SILVER trucks.
We'll looks like I will have to sell these.
Customer service was quick. But getting these trucks in return, kinda sours me a little bit about DLX.
Why not just hit them with some acetone to strip the paint? Then you'll have silver trucks for free, or a couple bucks if you don't have acetone handy.
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As mentioned before, I got the same problem with the same trucks.
Lenny said he`d help me out. Since I live in CPH, it will probaply take a
little longer before I revieve the trucks.
I`ll let you know what I got.
I was thinking about the same thing. Just use acetone and have some silver trucks.
Shouldn`t be any problem at all.
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I was skating these and got horrible axel slip.
(http://i59.tinypic.com/15znm68.jpg)
And today I received these in the mail?
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2chq9md.jpg)
I like thunders, but I figured they would have replaced with the same trucks. Or some similar SILVER trucks.
We'll looks like I will have to sell these.
Customer service was quick. But getting these trucks in return, kinda sours me a little bit about DLX.
You guys have to consider our Inventory. Those Chris Cole 149 lights were the only light 149s in stock. If quick customer service is your primary concern, then you are going to have to work with what we have in stock.
Maybe trade them at your local shop if you absolutely can't stand a little color?
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I was skating these and got horrible axel slip.
(http://i59.tinypic.com/15znm68.jpg)
And today I received these in the mail?
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2chq9md.jpg)
I like thunders, but I figured they would have replaced with the same trucks. Or some similar SILVER trucks.
We'll looks like I will have to sell these.
Customer service was quick. But getting these trucks in return, kinda sours me a little bit about DLX.
You guys have to consider our Inventory. Those Chris Cole 149 lights were the only light 149s in stock. If quick customer service is your primary concern, then you are going to have to work with what we have in stock.
Maybe trade them at your local shop if you absolutely can't stand a little color?
For me it is no problem at all. I really appreciate the customer service and am glad about any replacement truck.
Thanks again to Lenny and DLX.
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They speedily handled your customer service issue and you're going to come onto a forum and bitch because they sent you the same model truck except in a different? ???
I'm all for aesthetics, don't get me wrong but getting soured over this is just being a little bitch.
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I have like 2-3 sets of busted thunders, no idea I could get free replacements. It's usually the baseplates that go first, then the hanger starts bending. Thanks DLX you will hear from me soon
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How's a Slap pal supposed to rock Chris Cole trucks on a Polar board? SMH...
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How's a Slap pal supposed to rock Chris Cole trucks on a Polar board? SMH...
Exactly!
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How's a Slap pal supposed to rock Chris Cole trucks on any board
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How's a Slap pal supposed to rock Chris Cole trucks on any board
LOL at anyone riding hollow trucks for that matter.
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I was skating these and got horrible axel slip.
(http://i59.tinypic.com/15znm68.jpg)
And today I received these in the mail?
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2chq9md.jpg)
I like thunders, but I figured they would have replaced with the same trucks. Or some similar SILVER trucks.
We'll looks like I will have to sell these.
Customer service was quick. But getting these trucks in return, kinda sours me a little bit about DLX.
WOW people still gonna cry about stupid SH** :'(