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Title: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: #1 Tic-Tacker on June 30, 2014, 01:38:57 PM
What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors? I understand they look cool but they're made of canvas! Even thick canvas doesn't last. How can people skate in them for more than a few hours/ollies? ??? ???
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: Mr. Kamikazi on June 30, 2014, 01:44:31 PM
Well, a lot of has to do with the fact that here on the East Coast, almost all of the Supreme kids ride for them. The other reason is people really do want to skate in the thinnest shoe possible. I will say I am not really into the classic, non-skate Cons, but the CTAS's in canvas and suede are a good functional skate shoe.
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: pinche gringo on June 30, 2014, 01:52:52 PM
For the same reason people skate in Vans eras.
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: Paco Supreme on June 30, 2014, 04:51:08 PM
Not everyone needs shoes that are gonna withstand a million kickflips. my next pair of shoes are gonna be some canvas ctas, simply for the fact that its winter here and i wont be skating much, and when i do, it'll probably  be when i can get time off to go to the park or hit up my after work curb spot, plus variety is always fun my dude
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: Aatila on June 30, 2014, 05:00:48 PM
the rubber toe on cons last so long it lasted longer than a lot of my suede toe shoes.  now that they have the ctsas in suede with the rubber toe they will last a lot longer.
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: shit_for_brains on June 30, 2014, 05:11:47 PM
Are the skate ones not all that different from regular ones? What about the star players?
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: Aatila on June 30, 2014, 05:20:05 PM
Are the skate ones not all that different from regular ones? What about the star players?
the skate ones have lunarlon insoles (they used to have memory foam in the earlier ones but scrapped it lunarlon is still good tho)  and high abrasion suede.
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: floop on June 30, 2014, 05:22:36 PM
chuck taylors are made out of toilet paper
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: dillanharp on June 30, 2014, 05:30:43 PM
Because Pony Boy Curtis invented the no comply.
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: Wizard Fight on June 30, 2014, 08:22:12 PM
Because Pony Boy Curtis invented the no comply.
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: Jake on June 30, 2014, 10:56:22 PM
Shoe goo?

 I used to skate regular chuck taylors 7-8 years ago, back when slip ons were among my favorite skate shoes and I enjoyed a paper thin shoe? They had a really good sole once broken in, I remember skating that shoe surprisingly long.


Nowadays I couldn't imagine having a real session in those things beyond cruising around.
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: Noble Experiment on July 01, 2014, 02:48:55 AM
The CTAS' are a good skate shoe, but I'm always surprised to see dudes skating in the OG Chuck Taylors. Aren't the outsoles like 75 percent felt? I can't imagine getting the best grip with that.
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: Jake on July 01, 2014, 08:47:30 AM
The CTAS' are a good skate shoe, but I'm always surprised to see dudes skating in the OG Chuck Taylors. Aren't the outsoles like 75 percent felt? I can't imagine getting the best grip with that.

Yeah maybe like a 5% layer though haha.  For a week it's the most dog shit shoe ever, super slippery and ungrippy.  Once you break through that felt you're good to go. I'd say the non skate ones have superior bottoms, longer lasting and grippier. When I had the skate ones I started balding out them out after a couple sessions. The biggest issues with the non skate ones are having a canvas sidewall and just being dumb thin.
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: Firebert on July 01, 2014, 09:06:29 AM
They make em in suede now
(http://cdn.companybe.com/Premier/blogImages/6-12-14ConsBlogPost1.jpg)
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: swagdragon123 on July 01, 2014, 09:11:02 AM
For the same reason people skate in Vans eras.
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: jgonzalez on July 01, 2014, 11:07:51 AM
OG chucks quality has been slipping for a while. I had a teacher tell me in the 60's the shoes had double canvas lining and what we have now is crap. Also since I've been wearing them I'm pretty sure they added that shitty felt on the bottom of the shoe. Anybody else that's been wearing them notice any difference in quality?
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: GY on July 01, 2014, 11:25:58 AM
Just get Huf Classics
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: j_u_i_c_y on July 01, 2014, 02:50:19 PM
OG chucks quality has been slipping for a while. I had a teacher tell me in the 60's the shoes had double canvas lining and what we have now is crap. Also since I've been wearing them I'm pretty sure they added that shitty felt on the bottom of the shoe. Anybody else that's been wearing them notice any difference in quality?

the felt is so they can import them as slippers and avoid shoe taxes
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: Willie on July 01, 2014, 03:21:29 PM
I haven't owned any since they stopped making them in the USA (coincidence, not political statement). They used to have decent soles, I did a lot of rock climbing in them back in the day.

I thought the felt sole ones were only for discount stores? Are they all like that?
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: silkyjohnson on July 01, 2014, 03:23:22 PM
anybody know how to remove the felt from converse soles got a pair laying around but the felt makes the soles slippery as fuck
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: Hacksaw Jim Duggan on July 01, 2014, 03:42:31 PM
It's a trend, nuff' said. I had a pair of the KA high tops (which had a rubber toe-cap) like 2 years ago, they were AWFUL. Board feel was terrible and the top cap was extremely annoying. I couldn't imagine the Chuck Taylors.

Back on this trend, I now see kids go to the park and never ollie, just no-complies and wallies. It's not like I really care, it's like they're missing out on the fun in skateboarding (ollies, 50-50s, and whatnot) just to look "cool". People might claim that they're just as much fun, but like, you're going to completely avoid 90% of skateboarding because it's not "cool"? Again, I reeaaalllly don't care, I just don't understand it. Maybe I'm too mainstream.
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: Fecal Matter on July 01, 2014, 03:59:21 PM
fuck it why do people skate at all? why is the sky blue? why do we wear pants?
WHO GIVES A FUCK WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING!?
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: Monkey_Mcpott on July 01, 2014, 05:17:28 PM
Its the new janoski, but waaaayyy cheaper.
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: jgonzalez on July 02, 2014, 01:04:05 AM
I haven't owned any since they stopped making them in the USA (coincidence, not political statement). They used to have decent soles, I did a lot of rock climbing in them back in the day.

I thought the felt sole ones were only for discount stores? Are they all like that?
That's crazy. Didn't know that was a way around taxes. Air walks and cheapy wal mart shoes have that crap


Right now there are three types of chucks out there. The 1977, CTS and "OG". Pretty sure only the "OG" has the felt crap. The cts and throwback quality 1977 models don't have the felt stuff and are better quality. Fuck those varvatos and Maybe the Purcell chucks.
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on July 02, 2014, 02:57:44 AM
is this subject title like a Seinfeld-inspired joke?
 :D
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: fuckmyself on July 02, 2014, 06:53:20 AM
Silky,
Are the chucks you have still brand new or have you been walking around/skating in them? Removing the felt is easiest when they are brand new. Basically you can see where the felt starts near the toe of the sole and heel; get a pocket knife (or any knife that is sturdy) and dig it in to the seam of where the felt begins, the felt is basically just a touch thicker than paper so you don't have to stab deep. Use the knife to peel the ends up to about a centimeter down from where you began and then you can just peel it straight off if you do it correctly. I have been doing this for the past year or so and it makes them pretty much perfect right away. Give it a go and let me know how that works out for you!
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: AssBandit on July 02, 2014, 10:42:07 AM
i skate the suede ctas pros, and they last tooo long.  they also mold to your feet like a slipper over time, giving you the best fit imaginable. always go a half size down.  and then there's the lunarlon...

i do wonder sometimes why people bother with the standard chucks, when cons are made to function for skating.  
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: ontheswarm on July 02, 2014, 11:45:38 AM
All the "cool" kids are doing it.
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: art hellman on July 02, 2014, 12:07:55 PM
"Trocad?ro Days" by Pontus Alv : Converse Skateboarding (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjYGIf72xCw#)
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: Schismatic on July 02, 2014, 12:52:06 PM
The "its a fad" and "cool kids do it" comments are a little ironic considering that people have been skating in Chucks for as long as skateboarding has existed.

I haven't owned a pair since 1990, probably never will again, but would also never be surprised to see anyone skating in them. It looks painful but they aren't my feet so no reason to be concerned about it.
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: yourfuckingdad on July 02, 2014, 03:47:38 PM
The "its a fad" and "cool kids do it" comments are a little ironic considering that people have been skating in Chucks for as long as skateboarding has existed.

I haven't owned a pair since 1990, probably never will again, but would also never be surprised to see anyone skating in them. It looks painful but they aren't my feet so no reason to be concerned about it.

It is a trend though. Skating Classic Vans got played out to be novel skaters started picking a similar not really made for skating shoe. I have a suspicion that most skaters, or at least trendy skaters that are more visible are much more privileged these days so they can (or their parents) can afford to buy a new pair of Chuck Taylors every week.
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: tom on July 02, 2014, 09:33:08 PM
chuck taylors can last a lot longer than a week. a little bit of super glue in specific places can go a long way. i've skated every type of chuck taylors and i love them. they work for me and my skating. i'm not jumping or hucking these days, but then again i've always been a low impact skater. if i can't jump up it i'm not jumping down it. they work perfectly fine for flip tricks. it's a simple, aesthetically pleasing, comfortable, and easily skateable shoe
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: vancanman on July 03, 2014, 10:56:52 AM
I wear them when not skating or just cruising around. I'll definitely admit that I hadn't worn them since I was a kid before they became popular a couple of years ago. For me when I comes to really skating I find they don't have a good flick. I don't like how the sole seems to roll up at the toe. I'm assuming it makes them better to run in but for me it just doesn't feel right. When I think back on the best tricks I've ever done that didn't involve stairs it seems like I was usually wearing era's. Played out for sure but the best performing shoe ever in the two week window before the sole goes so floppy that I get heel bruises skating flat ground.
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: TFUCKINA on July 03, 2014, 11:35:59 AM
Im currently skating a pair of canvas chuck lo's. not the skate ones, and i like them, idk why, they just work great for flip tricks, i skate alot of stairs, which is the only bad thing about them, you will be sore for days if you skate something big.
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: trannies and mannies on July 03, 2014, 02:42:22 PM
Once you rip the felt off, put some duct tape on the inside and a little shoe goo on the outside, and they are the perfect shoe. The toe and outsole last really long.
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: Willie on July 03, 2014, 05:45:42 PM
I just bought a pair of the "Pro Skate" lows. They are definitely more padded in the sole than regular Chucks thanks to the Lunarlon insoles - kind of like Jack Purcells on steroids. I'm not sure if I will end up skating them but that's because I'm more of a cupsole guy. I don't think the sole padding is much worse than most Vans models.
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: BRIX SKWIKZ on July 03, 2014, 06:27:46 PM
 THEY LOOK GOOD AND ARE CHEAP I LEARNT HOW TO OLLIE ON THEM
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: TFUCKINA on July 03, 2014, 10:49:12 PM
I just bought a pair of the "Pro Skate" lows. They are definitely more padded in the sole than regular Chucks thanks to the Lunarlon insoles - kind of like Jack Purcells on steroids. I'm not sure if I will end up skating them but that's because I'm more of a cupsole guy. I don't think the sole padding is much worse than most Vans models.

Canvas or suede? I had some skate chuck taylor lows in canvas when they first started back up the skate shoe program, didnt like them as much as standard chucks, but they were still good. Wouldnt mind getting those new vol 4 collab ones.
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: TFUCKINA on July 03, 2014, 10:50:36 PM
They make em in suede now
(http://cdn.companybe.com/Premier/blogImages/6-12-14ConsBlogPost1.jpg)

Are those the skate ones, or normal ones?
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: Paco Supreme on July 03, 2014, 11:05:56 PM
^^ skate ones, lunarlon insole
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: Willie on July 04, 2014, 02:08:42 PM
I just bought a pair of the "Pro Skate" lows. They are definitely more padded in the sole than regular Chucks thanks to the Lunarlon insoles - kind of like Jack Purcells on steroids. I'm not sure if I will end up skating them but that's because I'm more of a cupsole guy. I don't think the sole padding is much worse than most Vans models.

Canvas or suede? I had some skate chuck taylor lows in canvas when they first started back up the skate shoe program, didnt like them as much as standard chucks, but they were still good. Wouldnt mind getting those new vol 4 collab ones.

I got the canvas ones. I actually tried skating in them today and was pleasantly surprised that my heel didn't hurt but the forefoot felt incredibly thin. Thinner than regular Chucks. I realize a lot of people dig that but it was not enough padding for me to skate in for very long.

FWIW, there have apparently been about 4 different iterations of the Skate All Stars, with different insole, toes, etc.
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: Rocko on July 04, 2014, 06:21:38 PM
The ones I can think off the top of my head are the cts, with the padded collar and tongue in all suede or canvas with rubber toe, then there's the ct ls with the thin rubber toe piece, the ct xl with the different side panel, and the more recent ctas, no little to no padding in the collar or tongue and come with lunarlon insoles
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: Slappy_Happy on July 06, 2014, 02:51:58 PM
I skate them cause there is no other thin shoe that is that cheap and durable.  Mine last me longer than an era pro would cause I don't mind putting shoe goo on them after every sesh.  The toe is great.  I never get through it.  Plus they look and feel great!!
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: dillanharp on July 06, 2014, 03:00:39 PM
I skate them cause based on my sig and pic, I'm a dick riding, trend hopping teenager. I would gladly let Jason Dill turn me out.  Plus they look and feel great!!

That's deep son.
Title: Re: What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors?
Post by: shit_for_brains on July 06, 2014, 05:43:43 PM
For $60 I shouldn't have to put shoe goo on a goddamn thing.