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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: #1 Tic-Tacker on June 30, 2014, 01:38:57 PM
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What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors? I understand they look cool but they're made of canvas! Even thick canvas doesn't last. How can people skate in them for more than a few hours/ollies? ??? ???
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Well, a lot of has to do with the fact that here on the East Coast, almost all of the Supreme kids ride for them. The other reason is people really do want to skate in the thinnest shoe possible. I will say I am not really into the classic, non-skate Cons, but the CTAS's in canvas and suede are a good functional skate shoe.
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For the same reason people skate in Vans eras.
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Not everyone needs shoes that are gonna withstand a million kickflips. my next pair of shoes are gonna be some canvas ctas, simply for the fact that its winter here and i wont be skating much, and when i do, it'll probably be when i can get time off to go to the park or hit up my after work curb spot, plus variety is always fun my dude
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the rubber toe on cons last so long it lasted longer than a lot of my suede toe shoes. now that they have the ctsas in suede with the rubber toe they will last a lot longer.
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Are the skate ones not all that different from regular ones? What about the star players?
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Are the skate ones not all that different from regular ones? What about the star players?
the skate ones have lunarlon insoles (they used to have memory foam in the earlier ones but scrapped it lunarlon is still good tho) and high abrasion suede.
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chuck taylors are made out of toilet paper
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Because Pony Boy Curtis invented the no comply.
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Because Pony Boy Curtis invented the no comply.
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Shoe goo?
I used to skate regular chuck taylors 7-8 years ago, back when slip ons were among my favorite skate shoes and I enjoyed a paper thin shoe? They had a really good sole once broken in, I remember skating that shoe surprisingly long.
Nowadays I couldn't imagine having a real session in those things beyond cruising around.
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The CTAS' are a good skate shoe, but I'm always surprised to see dudes skating in the OG Chuck Taylors. Aren't the outsoles like 75 percent felt? I can't imagine getting the best grip with that.
Yeah maybe like a 5% layer though haha. For a week it's the most dog shit shoe ever, super slippery and ungrippy. Once you break through that felt you're good to go. I'd say the non skate ones have superior bottoms, longer lasting and grippier. When I had the skate ones I started balding out them out after a couple sessions. The biggest issues with the non skate ones are having a canvas sidewall and just being dumb thin.
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They make em in suede now
(http://cdn.companybe.com/Premier/blogImages/6-12-14ConsBlogPost1.jpg)
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For the same reason people skate in Vans eras.
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OG chucks quality has been slipping for a while. I had a teacher tell me in the 60's the shoes had double canvas lining and what we have now is crap. Also since I've been wearing them I'm pretty sure they added that shitty felt on the bottom of the shoe. Anybody else that's been wearing them notice any difference in quality?
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Just get Huf Classics
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OG chucks quality has been slipping for a while. I had a teacher tell me in the 60's the shoes had double canvas lining and what we have now is crap. Also since I've been wearing them I'm pretty sure they added that shitty felt on the bottom of the shoe. Anybody else that's been wearing them notice any difference in quality?
the felt is so they can import them as slippers and avoid shoe taxes
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I haven't owned any since they stopped making them in the USA (coincidence, not political statement). They used to have decent soles, I did a lot of rock climbing in them back in the day.
I thought the felt sole ones were only for discount stores? Are they all like that?
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anybody know how to remove the felt from converse soles got a pair laying around but the felt makes the soles slippery as fuck
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It's a trend, nuff' said. I had a pair of the KA high tops (which had a rubber toe-cap) like 2 years ago, they were AWFUL. Board feel was terrible and the top cap was extremely annoying. I couldn't imagine the Chuck Taylors.
Back on this trend, I now see kids go to the park and never ollie, just no-complies and wallies. It's not like I really care, it's like they're missing out on the fun in skateboarding (ollies, 50-50s, and whatnot) just to look "cool". People might claim that they're just as much fun, but like, you're going to completely avoid 90% of skateboarding because it's not "cool"? Again, I reeaaalllly don't care, I just don't understand it. Maybe I'm too mainstream.
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fuck it why do people skate at all? why is the sky blue? why do we wear pants?
WHO GIVES A FUCK WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING!?
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Its the new janoski, but waaaayyy cheaper.
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I haven't owned any since they stopped making them in the USA (coincidence, not political statement). They used to have decent soles, I did a lot of rock climbing in them back in the day.
I thought the felt sole ones were only for discount stores? Are they all like that?
That's crazy. Didn't know that was a way around taxes. Air walks and cheapy wal mart shoes have that crap
Right now there are three types of chucks out there. The 1977, CTS and "OG". Pretty sure only the "OG" has the felt crap. The cts and throwback quality 1977 models don't have the felt stuff and are better quality. Fuck those varvatos and Maybe the Purcell chucks.
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is this subject title like a Seinfeld-inspired joke?
:D
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Silky,
Are the chucks you have still brand new or have you been walking around/skating in them? Removing the felt is easiest when they are brand new. Basically you can see where the felt starts near the toe of the sole and heel; get a pocket knife (or any knife that is sturdy) and dig it in to the seam of where the felt begins, the felt is basically just a touch thicker than paper so you don't have to stab deep. Use the knife to peel the ends up to about a centimeter down from where you began and then you can just peel it straight off if you do it correctly. I have been doing this for the past year or so and it makes them pretty much perfect right away. Give it a go and let me know how that works out for you!
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i skate the suede ctas pros, and they last tooo long. they also mold to your feet like a slipper over time, giving you the best fit imaginable. always go a half size down. and then there's the lunarlon...
i do wonder sometimes why people bother with the standard chucks, when cons are made to function for skating.
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All the "cool" kids are doing it.
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"Trocad?ro Days" by Pontus Alv : Converse Skateboarding (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjYGIf72xCw#)
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The "its a fad" and "cool kids do it" comments are a little ironic considering that people have been skating in Chucks for as long as skateboarding has existed.
I haven't owned a pair since 1990, probably never will again, but would also never be surprised to see anyone skating in them. It looks painful but they aren't my feet so no reason to be concerned about it.
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The "its a fad" and "cool kids do it" comments are a little ironic considering that people have been skating in Chucks for as long as skateboarding has existed.
I haven't owned a pair since 1990, probably never will again, but would also never be surprised to see anyone skating in them. It looks painful but they aren't my feet so no reason to be concerned about it.
It is a trend though. Skating Classic Vans got played out to be novel skaters started picking a similar not really made for skating shoe. I have a suspicion that most skaters, or at least trendy skaters that are more visible are much more privileged these days so they can (or their parents) can afford to buy a new pair of Chuck Taylors every week.
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chuck taylors can last a lot longer than a week. a little bit of super glue in specific places can go a long way. i've skated every type of chuck taylors and i love them. they work for me and my skating. i'm not jumping or hucking these days, but then again i've always been a low impact skater. if i can't jump up it i'm not jumping down it. they work perfectly fine for flip tricks. it's a simple, aesthetically pleasing, comfortable, and easily skateable shoe
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I wear them when not skating or just cruising around. I'll definitely admit that I hadn't worn them since I was a kid before they became popular a couple of years ago. For me when I comes to really skating I find they don't have a good flick. I don't like how the sole seems to roll up at the toe. I'm assuming it makes them better to run in but for me it just doesn't feel right. When I think back on the best tricks I've ever done that didn't involve stairs it seems like I was usually wearing era's. Played out for sure but the best performing shoe ever in the two week window before the sole goes so floppy that I get heel bruises skating flat ground.
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Im currently skating a pair of canvas chuck lo's. not the skate ones, and i like them, idk why, they just work great for flip tricks, i skate alot of stairs, which is the only bad thing about them, you will be sore for days if you skate something big.
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Once you rip the felt off, put some duct tape on the inside and a little shoe goo on the outside, and they are the perfect shoe. The toe and outsole last really long.
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I just bought a pair of the "Pro Skate" lows. They are definitely more padded in the sole than regular Chucks thanks to the Lunarlon insoles - kind of like Jack Purcells on steroids. I'm not sure if I will end up skating them but that's because I'm more of a cupsole guy. I don't think the sole padding is much worse than most Vans models.
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THEY LOOK GOOD AND ARE CHEAP I LEARNT HOW TO OLLIE ON THEM
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I just bought a pair of the "Pro Skate" lows. They are definitely more padded in the sole than regular Chucks thanks to the Lunarlon insoles - kind of like Jack Purcells on steroids. I'm not sure if I will end up skating them but that's because I'm more of a cupsole guy. I don't think the sole padding is much worse than most Vans models.
Canvas or suede? I had some skate chuck taylor lows in canvas when they first started back up the skate shoe program, didnt like them as much as standard chucks, but they were still good. Wouldnt mind getting those new vol 4 collab ones.
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They make em in suede now
(http://cdn.companybe.com/Premier/blogImages/6-12-14ConsBlogPost1.jpg)
Are those the skate ones, or normal ones?
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^^ skate ones, lunarlon insole
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I just bought a pair of the "Pro Skate" lows. They are definitely more padded in the sole than regular Chucks thanks to the Lunarlon insoles - kind of like Jack Purcells on steroids. I'm not sure if I will end up skating them but that's because I'm more of a cupsole guy. I don't think the sole padding is much worse than most Vans models.
Canvas or suede? I had some skate chuck taylor lows in canvas when they first started back up the skate shoe program, didnt like them as much as standard chucks, but they were still good. Wouldnt mind getting those new vol 4 collab ones.
I got the canvas ones. I actually tried skating in them today and was pleasantly surprised that my heel didn't hurt but the forefoot felt incredibly thin. Thinner than regular Chucks. I realize a lot of people dig that but it was not enough padding for me to skate in for very long.
FWIW, there have apparently been about 4 different iterations of the Skate All Stars, with different insole, toes, etc.
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The ones I can think off the top of my head are the cts, with the padded collar and tongue in all suede or canvas with rubber toe, then there's the ct ls with the thin rubber toe piece, the ct xl with the different side panel, and the more recent ctas, no little to no padding in the collar or tongue and come with lunarlon insoles
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I skate them cause there is no other thin shoe that is that cheap and durable. Mine last me longer than an era pro would cause I don't mind putting shoe goo on them after every sesh. The toe is great. I never get through it. Plus they look and feel great!!
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I skate them cause based on my sig and pic, I'm a dick riding, trend hopping teenager. I would gladly let Jason Dill turn me out. Plus they look and feel great!!
That's deep son.
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For $60 I shouldn't have to put shoe goo on a goddamn thing.
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Dragging up this old thread because I just ordered a pair of regular non-skate high-top Chucks for dirt cheap. I plan on skating in them but I知 wondering about this Felt issue people have mentioned. Where is this layer of felt and what does it look like / feel like so that I can tell if the pair I致e ordered have it or not.
Very interested to see what these are like in terms of just general comfort as well as skating. I知 29 and this is my first ever pair of converse.
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Dragging up this old thread because I just ordered a pair of regular non-skate high-top Chucks for dirt cheap. I plan on skating in them but I知 wondering about this Felt issue people have mentioned. Where is this layer of felt and what does it look like / feel like so that I can tell if the pair I致e ordered have it or not.
Very interested to see what these are like in terms of just general comfort as well as skating. I知 29 and this is my first ever pair of converse.
you'll probably feel it for a session and then once you've walked around in them a bit and skated them you won't notice anything different.
in the future if you want a good converse experience just buy the CTAS. i don't know how they are with the zoom air but with the lunarlon they're my all time favorite skate shoe. i got four pairs in boxes waiting for future me.
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I used to skate in chucks in my teens, they were the best bang for your buck sneaks you could find.
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i like how they look and feel and its true you can get them dirt cheap but its also true they dont last but go alot further with a bit of shoe goo. the felt on the sole is a bit weird/annoying but it wears down pretty fast
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Dragging up this old thread because I just ordered a pair of regular non-skate high-top Chucks for dirt cheap. I plan on skating in them but I知 wondering about this Felt issue people have mentioned. Where is this layer of felt and what does it look like / feel like so that I can tell if the pair I致e ordered have it or not.
Very interested to see what these are like in terms of just general comfort as well as skating. I知 29 and this is my first ever pair of converse.
you'll probably feel it for a session and then once you've walked around in them a bit and skated them you won't notice anything different.
in the future if you want a good converse experience just buy the CTAS. i don't know how they are with the zoom air but with the lunarlon they're my all time favorite skate shoe. i got four pairs in boxes waiting for future me.
Thanks for the response man, I値l take a look at the CTAS in future. I went for these because they were ｣15 and I love the colour. Plus never having owned a pair had something to do with it too.
Is the felt on the outside of the sole or on the inner of the shoe?
I値l make sure to walk around / have a night at the Bar when I get them to break them in.
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Dragging up this old thread because I just ordered a pair of regular non-skate high-top Chucks for dirt cheap. I plan on skating in them but I知 wondering about this Felt issue people have mentioned. Where is this layer of felt and what does it look like / feel like so that I can tell if the pair I致e ordered have it or not.
Very interested to see what these are like in terms of just general comfort as well as skating. I知 29 and this is my first ever pair of converse.
you'll probably feel it for a session and then once you've walked around in them a bit and skated them you won't notice anything different.
in the future if you want a good converse experience just buy the CTAS. i don't know how they are with the zoom air but with the lunarlon they're my all time favorite skate shoe. i got four pairs in boxes waiting for future me.
Thanks for the response man, I値l take a look at the CTAS in future. I went for these because they were ｣15 and I love the colour. Plus never having owned a pair had something to do with it too.
Is the felt on the outside of the sole or on the inner of the shoe?
I値l make sure to walk around / have a night at the Bar when I get them to break them in.
All the Chucks I've had haven't had that felt in them. I've bought them in Finland and Germany. I think it's a US thing and they only import the felt shoes there.
I did get a pair of Emerica Indicators with felt on the bottom though and nearly killed myself cuz they were so fucking slippery but they're good now after a bit of use.
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Is the felt on the outside of the sole or on the inner of the shoe?
It's this weird layer on the outsole. It sounds super sketchy but will wear through within a couple weeks and then you'll have a really grippy pair of shoes. If you shoe goo them they can last a good while and in my opinion they feel really good to skate. I think in his converse part Bobby de Keyzer skates some non-skate, presumably felt-soled chucks. They work really well in my opinion.
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What's the deal with people skating in Chuck Taylors? I understand they look cool but they're made of canvas! Even thick canvas doesn't last. How can people skate in them for more than a few hours/ollies? ??? ???
I personally skate them because they are made of canvas.
I don't want to skate suede/leather anymore.
Killing animals just for being able to do flips with my skateboard was just too much for me.
You will have a hole in the first layer of canvas at the first session, that's right, but if you glue / shoe goo it, they will last at least a month skating everyday.
Also, the board feel is incredible.
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Dragging up this old thread because I just ordered a pair of regular non-skate high-top Chucks for dirt cheap. I plan on skating in them but I知 wondering about this Felt issue people have mentioned. Where is this layer of felt and what does it look like / feel like so that I can tell if the pair I致e ordered have it or not.
Very interested to see what these are like in terms of just general comfort as well as skating. I知 29 and this is my first ever pair of converse.
you'll probably feel it for a session and then once you've walked around in them a bit and skated them you won't notice anything different.
in the future if you want a good converse experience just buy the CTAS. i don't know how they are with the zoom air but with the lunarlon they're my all time favorite skate shoe. i got four pairs in boxes waiting for future me.
Thanks for the response man, I値l take a look at the CTAS in future. I went for these because they were ｣15 and I love the colour. Plus never having owned a pair had something to do with it too.
Is the felt on the outside of the sole or on the inner of the shoe?
I値l make sure to walk around / have a night at the Bar when I get them to break them in.
and people are right, if you're outside the US maybe you don't have to worry...a lot of OG chucks have full rubber soles too, like the chuck taylor 2's or even like the leather ones they make. this is the best advice i can give you to make these feel a little more supportive.
wear them around for a night and realize the insole sucks.
take a blowdrier and use the heat to help pry up the stock insole.
put in the insole of your choice (lunarlon CTAS insole always my go to).
become the shoe goo king.
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Is the felt on the outside of the sole or on the inner of the shoe?
I知 confident Bobby was skating in the 70 Chuck Taylor痴, those don稚 have a felt outsole. The foxing tape was much lower than regular Chucks
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They glue felt on the soles so they can import them at a lower tax rate as "slippers". Fun fact.
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+1 for the CTAS pro hi.
Insole is superb. I size a full size down when i buy 'em though.