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Title: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on October 20, 2014, 04:02:05 PM
Interested to hear what other people are riding other than Spits or Bones. Did a search and was surprised there wasn't a thread for other wheel manus. There is a great selection of smaller brands... Autobahn, OJ, Broadcast, Paradise, Pusher, SML, PFC, Type S, etc. Definitely interested to hear what people are skating.

Currently on these on these SML Herrington 53 Wides and I love them. They were a little slick for my tastes at first but after a few sessions they're perfect. For anyone that prefers wider wheels they are great:

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/SML_herrington_zps8e9c79be.jpg)

Just finished up on OJ Dela 53. Wasn't a big fan of them on first ride, but gave them a revisit and I was pretty psyched:

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/DELAwheels1_zps51bc2ab2.jpg)

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/DELAwheels2_zps8dcd1c42.jpg)

I have these up next, Satori Guru 54:

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/satori_guru_zps523a8dcd.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Spitfire4life on October 20, 2014, 05:39:25 PM
Even though I am a Spitfire guy (obviously), I do enjoy trying out other wheels from time to time. I found some Bones SPF 55's for $10 at a sale, so I figured I would try them out. Surprisingly, I had a set of Zero wheels a few years ago, and they were actually somewhat good. Most of the wheels made by board companies are pretty bad, but I liked the Zero wheels more than Bones STF's.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on October 20, 2014, 07:03:30 PM
I'm a fan of skater owned and the little guy, but I'll be damned if F4s aren't the shit. I can't skate anything else now, feels like they're all too slow.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: sleepypancakes on October 20, 2014, 07:34:16 PM
Even though I am a Spitfire guy (obviously), I do enjoy trying out other wheels from time to time. I found some Bones SPF 55's for $10 at a sale, so I figured I would try them out. Surprisingly, I had a set of Zero wheels a few years ago, and they were actually somewhat good. Most of the wheels made by board companies are pretty bad, but I liked the Zero wheels more than Bones STF's.
Zero4Life now?


Anyways, Broadcast are really great wheels if you can get ahold of them, I've had a few sets of 54mms and they have an awesome shape and slide really well without being super terribly hard. Just a great feeling, fast, all around wheel.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Randozzi on October 20, 2014, 10:03:52 PM
http://www.prizefightercutlery.com/shop/# (http://www.prizefightercutlery.com/shop/#)!/Wheels/c/2470697/offset=0&sort=normal

The Shit.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on October 20, 2014, 11:47:48 PM
Used to Ride Pusher wheels steady for about a year or so. I have never really liked spits because the flatspotted way too easily, Bones feel too plastic and slick, but I recently got a job with SML and am really stoked to be working with a rad company that has a great feel and quality wheels. I highly suggest giving them a try ( not just because i work for them ).They are just really great wheels
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: TehPwnzorer on October 21, 2014, 12:56:31 AM
Last wheels I tried out other than Bones and Spitfires were these Plan B prospec wheels. They look rad, they're rockhard, more plasticy feel than Bones and once again, rockhard. Way harder feel than Bones. Quite good for being wheels made by deckco. Probably my favorite wheels of all time coming from a none wheelco... but the end of the day nothing beats the Spitfire F4.

(http://www.saltypeaks.com/pi/p15419-Wheels_PlanBShecklerProSpec.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Coconut Lotion on October 21, 2014, 03:45:37 AM
I'd ride other wheels if spitfire never made the f4's. Want to try some OJ's for sure though
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: 4wheels on October 21, 2014, 05:38:34 AM
whats good with canal wheels? i wanna try a set of those or prizefighters next
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Lasernaut on October 21, 2014, 06:21:57 AM
I'm skating Type-S right now, and I'm really happy with them. They have a less 'greasy' feel than Bones STF, they keep momentum really well. And they powerslide when you want them to. No flatspots since summer either.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Prince Nelson on October 21, 2014, 07:16:35 AM
whats good with canal wheels? i wanna try a set of those or prizefighters next

apparently Canal wheels are 100A and have flat sides, for easy lock-in. I'd try them if I could get them in 54mm.


I have a set of Welcome wheels coming in tomorrow. I haven''t had a set of cored wheels in 8 years, so it should be interesting.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Stanley Spadowski on October 21, 2014, 07:35:51 AM
Used to Ride Pusher wheels steady for about a year or so. I have never really liked spits because the flatspotted way too easily, Bones feel too plastic and slick, but I recently got a job with SML and am really stoked to be working with a rad company that has a great feel and quality wheels. I highly suggest giving them a try ( not just because i work for them ).They are just really great wheels
Hook it up then, I'll take a set of 52's. Haha, J/K.
But seriously, my friends skating those Herrington's right now and they seem like some good wheels.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on October 21, 2014, 07:58:34 AM
Right now I'm riding formula fours, but I'm keen to try some different brands. I have these OJ Jake Johnson 55s up next. There's a graphic on each side, but I'm kind of digging it.

How wide are those SML wheels, Heritage? I'd like to support SML with either buying those or some Garcias.

I'm also keen to try a set of Prize Fighters and Satori (love what they do with that recycling program).

Anyone tried Paradise wheels?

Thanks Clamy. And those OJ Jake's are sick. When I got the Dela's I had those Jakes in my hand. I went with the Dela bc 55 is a little out of my range, but I love the shape of those. That's a great choice.

The SML are nice and they are definitely slide on command. I don't like wheels to be super slick and unpredictable. They were a little sketchy for me at first but after a few sessions were great. If you are skating a rougher street spot you'll have no problem at all. It's in a smooth park you have to be a little more mindful.

I was wondering about Paradise wheels too. They have some good looking stuff in their lineup.

I posted these pics in the Spits thread, but they'll work here too. A bunch of wheels lined up to see how wide they are against each other:

From L to R: SML Herrington 53, Broadcast Crop Circle 53, Autobahn Torus Shape 53, Autobahn Regular 53, Pusher McDonald 53

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/IMG_20141005_103651_zps1b435df2.jpg)

From L to R: PFC Gore 53.5, Type S 54, OJ 53, Autobahn Sidecut 52, Autobahn ABX 53

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/IMG_20141005_103523_zps962bab06.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Lance on October 21, 2014, 08:18:32 AM
Swear by these, same shapes as the old Fast Life Urethane wheels.  8)

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll245/okcomputer23/black_rainbows_zps9b30cc69.jpg)

sorry the pic is so big
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Randozzi on October 21, 2014, 09:36:09 AM
Had a set of the Black Rainbows, good shit indeed.
Been hooked on Prize Fighter for a couple years now, dig the F4s but PFCs just feel so damn good.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: art hellman on October 21, 2014, 10:17:05 AM
had a set of Broadcast when they first came out, simply because they had Ethan Fowler on the team.  they were really great wheels.  I ditched 'em after Ethan left the team.

I've had a couple sets of PFCs more recently, and they are also very awesome... would skate them exclusively if I had never tried the F4 conical fulls in 99a. 

Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Life Fast Johnny on October 21, 2014, 01:08:55 PM

Anyone tried Paradise wheels?

I was wondering about Paradise wheels too. They have some good looking stuff in their lineup.


I rode a couple of sets of Paradise last year in 52mm and 53mm 101A.  They were good wheels that I would describe as something like a slightly harder Spitfire F1 in feeling, but much more durable.  They never chipped on the sides like F1's do, they just shrank and then gradually got tears across the riding surface after a few months.

FWIW, I had a defect in the mold of the bearing seat in a wheel in the second set and their customer service not only shipped me a replacement set super fast, but threw a ton of freebies in the box with them.  If it were not for F4 99's and Autobahns, I would probably ride Paradise all the time.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: JB on October 21, 2014, 01:54:47 PM
(http://res.cloudinary.com/wwbs/image/upload/w_500,c_fit/v1396563744/41847.jpg)

ive had these on my set up for a long time now (probably because im lazy and dont skate enough), but theyre really good. smooth, pretty fast, slide really nice. maybe a bit too slick for some people, but they dont feel plasticy like bones. i usually skate really shitty ground now, so i like a wheel that slides a bit easier on rough stuff. theyre a small company out of chicago. check them out, id definitely get another set. http://www.reedwheels.com/ (http://www.reedwheels.com/)

ive had the welcome wheels too. theyre alright, but i probably wouldn't get them again. theyre pretty fast. i noticed the speed a lot when i skated transition, they were way faster than the bones i had on my other set up. theyre just too wide for my liking. it wasnt easy for me to get them to slide out.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: dillanharp on October 21, 2014, 02:12:27 PM
are Portland and Jivaro still around?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Wizard Fight on October 21, 2014, 02:19:03 PM
are Portland and Jivaro still around?

Yes.

http://www.google.com (http://www.google.com)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: chillout on October 21, 2014, 04:07:35 PM
(http://res.cloudinary.com/wwbs/image/upload/w_500,c_fit/v1396563744/41847.jpg)

ive had these on my set up for a long time now (probably because im lazy and dont skate enough), but theyre really good. smooth, pretty fast, slide really nice. maybe a bit too slick for some people, but they dont feel plasticy like bones. i usually skate really shitty ground now, so i like a wheel that slides a bit easier on rough stuff. theyre a small company out of chicago. check them out, id definitely get another set. http://www.reedwheels.com/ (http://www.reedwheels.com/)

ive had the welcome wheels too. theyre alright, but i probably wouldn't get them again. theyre pretty fast. i noticed the speed a lot when i skated transition, they were way faster than the bones i had on my other set up. theyre just too wide for my liking. it wasnt easy for me to get them to slide out.

haven't skated anything but reeds in the past couple years. theyre the perfect balance between the og formula spitfires and bones. similar grippy feeling as spitfires but slide like a harder wheel
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: N.L. on October 23, 2014, 07:32:05 AM
are Portland and Jivaro still around?

Yes.

http://www.google.com (http://www.google.com)

www.unheardpdx.com (http://www.unheardpdx.com)

both still around and both still putting out nice shaped wheels. not my cup of tea but good stuff from creative urethane. PI wheels are another smaller wheel co worth checking out. poured by AEND i believe (same manu as autobahn and Type S).
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on October 23, 2014, 10:03:21 AM
are Portland and Jivaro still around?

Yes.

http://www.google.com (http://www.google.com)

www.unheardpdx.com (http://www.unheardpdx.com)

both still around and both still putting out nice shaped wheels. not my cup of tea but good stuff from creative urethane. PI wheels are another smaller wheel co worth checking out. poured by AEND i believe (same manu as autobahn and Type S).

Yep, Pi are poured at Aend, I've had a set of the cored HFL 56.5mm for a while know, park use only. They are exactly that Hard, Fast and Loud; they yellow over time, a bit more grip than SPFs at the cost of a little speed. They don't feel like Type-S.AB at all (I find that type-s/AB are too grippy for me on street.).

I lost my set of Spitfire f4s conical fulls 101a (and the board they were on, bye, bye brand new Indys) and I miss them. Currently riding my 55mm wrecks as the Pis feel too big for street.

Spent too much on indys and f4s to go out and buy a new set so soon - F4s are too good (but I really want to try a set of the STF V5s, love that shape).

Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: vegan*shawn on October 23, 2014, 10:15:24 PM
(http://socalskateshop.com/images/products/large_50507_AssaultSpeedLabWheels_2.jpg)

Currently riding these on my street set up. I really like that they are wide, they ride smooth and slide good when worn in. They say 101 but they don't feel that hard. This model is 54.5, normally I ride 54 - 56 on street so these are perfect sized. Cool little company they make wheels 53mm - 66mm so something for everyone.

I also like Prize Fighter a lot, Javiro, Welcome wheels as well. Have not been a fan of the new OJ wheels, they feel really sluggish. I have been wanting to try Paradise, should hit up one of the local pros for a set.

Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Spaced Cadet on October 24, 2014, 12:08:46 AM
I always wanted to try some Teenage Runaway wheels. I thought Bratrud's graphics were sick. I don't know if they were any good though.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on October 24, 2014, 12:17:46 AM
PFC 53.5, i usually ride 54s but decided to put my money where my mouth is!
they live up to the hype
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on October 24, 2014, 01:31:07 AM
I always wanted to try some Teenage Runaway wheels. I thought Bratrud's graphics were sick. I don't know if they were any good though.
they were the worst wheels i have ever had
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on October 24, 2014, 07:09:49 PM
both still around and both still putting out nice shaped wheels. not my cup of tea but good stuff from creative urethane. PI wheels are another smaller wheel co worth checking out. poured by AEND i believe (same manu as autobahn and Type S).

Are Autobahn still poured at Creative? Someone told me they were having them done somewhere else (or were considering it) due to cost. IMO Autobahn is a seriously underrated wheel and the dudes that run that company are top notch

All that aside, I've wondered how many different places pour skate wheels.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Spaced Cadet on October 24, 2014, 09:01:57 PM
I always wanted to try some Teenage Runaway wheels. I thought Bratrud's graphics were sick. I don't know if they were any good though.
they were the worst wheels i have ever had


I kind of had a feeling they might be bad. I guess I dodged a bullet then.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Deekay on October 27, 2014, 02:01:08 PM
Right now I'm riding formula fours, but I'm keen to try some different brands. I have these OJ Jake Johnson 55s up next. There's a graphic on each side, but I'm kind of digging it.

How wide are those SML wheels, Heritage? I'd like to support SML with either buying those or some Garcias.

I'm also keen to try a set of Prize Fighters and Satori (love what they do with that recycling program).

Anyone tried Paradise wheels?

Thanks Clamy. And those OJ Jake's are sick. When I got the Dela's I had those Jakes in my hand. I went with the Dela bc 55 is a little out of my range, but I love the shape of those. That's a great choice.

The SML are nice and they are definitely slide on command. I don't like wheels to be super slick and unpredictable. They were a little sketchy for me at first but after a few sessions were great. If you are skating a rougher street spot you'll have no problem at all. It's in a smooth park you have to be a little more mindful.

I was wondering about Paradise wheels too. They have some good looking stuff in their lineup.

I posted these pics in the Spits thread, but they'll work here too. A bunch of wheels lined up to see how wide they are against each other:

From L to R: SML Herrington 53, Broadcast Crop Circle 53, Autobahn Torus Shape 53, Autobahn Regular 53, Pusher McDonald 53

-pic-

From L to R: PFC Gore 53.5, Type S 54, OJ 53, Autobahn Sidecut 52, Autobahn ABX 53

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/IMG_20141005_103523_zps962bab06.jpg)


How did you like the Type S? Theyre 98A right, do they slide good? I can get a pair at a good price and I might try them out, I got some bones v5 55mm and they feel a little too big for me, thinking about getting the type S in 54mm as theyre thinner and lighter.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on October 27, 2014, 03:54:15 PM
Right now I'm riding formula fours, but I'm keen to try some different brands. I have these OJ Jake Johnson 55s up next. There's a graphic on each side, but I'm kind of digging it.

How wide are those SML wheels, Heritage? I'd like to support SML with either buying those or some Garcias.

I'm also keen to try a set of Prize Fighters and Satori (love what they do with that recycling program).

Anyone tried Paradise wheels?

Thanks Clamy. And those OJ Jake's are sick. When I got the Dela's I had those Jakes in my hand. I went with the Dela bc 55 is a little out of my range, but I love the shape of those. That's a great choice.

The SML are nice and they are definitely slide on command. I don't like wheels to be super slick and unpredictable. They were a little sketchy for me at first but after a few sessions were great. If you are skating a rougher street spot you'll have no problem at all. It's in a smooth park you have to be a little more mindful.

I was wondering about Paradise wheels too. They have some good looking stuff in their lineup.

I posted these pics in the Spits thread, but they'll work here too. A bunch of wheels lined up to see how wide they are against each other:

From L to R: SML Herrington 53, Broadcast Crop Circle 53, Autobahn Torus Shape 53, Autobahn Regular 53, Pusher McDonald 53

-pic-

From L to R: PFC Gore 53.5, Type S 54, OJ 53, Autobahn Sidecut 52, Autobahn ABX 53

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/IMG_20141005_103523_zps962bab06.jpg)


How did you like the Type S? Theyre 98A right, do they slide good? I can get a pair at a good price and I might try them out, I got some bones v5 55mm and they feel a little too big for me, thinking about getting the type S in 54mm as theyre thinner and lighter.

Was riding my 55mm Wrecks after losing my F4 conical fulls, hard to skate them after the F4s so I went back to riding the 55mm/98a Barros wheel (probably around 53/54 now) they slide nice, good grip. Fast (cored wheels always are) too, I'd say they ride harder than 98a, at least they feel like it.

When skating the big local bowl I switch over to my 57mm Pi wheels.

If you are stateside and want to trade, let me know, I really want to try the V5s. I've some Spit F4s (101 and 99a) kicking around I'm not using as well.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Deekay on October 28, 2014, 10:51:55 AM
Sweet, thanks! Ah man I would but im in europe, sorry...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: timv on October 28, 2014, 12:15:35 PM
I just got a set of spit F4 Conicals and their shape is nearly identical to the set of STF V5's I have.
Dimensions are really close also.

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I lost my set of Spitfire f4s conical fulls 101a (and the board they were on, bye, bye brand new Indys) and I miss them. Currently riding my 55mm wrecks as the Pis feel too big for street.

Spent too much on indys and f4s to go out and buy a new set so soon - F4s are too good (but I really want to try a set of the STF V5s, love that shape).


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Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on October 28, 2014, 12:26:10 PM
given the popularity of Welcome boards, has anybody tried their wheels yet?

also, any opinions on Gold wheels? they have a insane team, a video coming up, yet i never hear anybody talking about them, let alone skate them.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on October 28, 2014, 05:44:12 PM
I just got a set of spit F4 Conicals and their shape is nearly identical to the set of STF V5's I have.
Dimensions are really close also.


I lost my set of Spitfire f4s conical fulls 101a (and the board they were on, bye, bye brand new Indys) and I miss them. Currently riding my 55mm wrecks as the Pis feel too big for street.

Spent too much on indys and f4s to go out and buy a new set so soon - F4s are too good (but I really want to try a set of the STF V5s, love that shape).


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Sweet! I'll just pick up a set of 101a Conicals and call it a day!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on October 28, 2014, 06:34:05 PM
How did you like the Type S? Theyre 98A right, do they slide good? I can get a pair at a good price and I might try them out, I got some bones v5 55mm and they feel a little too big for me, thinking about getting the type S in 54mm as theyre thinner and lighter.

Deekay - I actually really liked the Type S wheels. The set in the picture was what they call the Modified wheel, they are 96A. Really nice shape and super smooth ride. I would definitely recommend the 98 over the 96 if you do a lot of sliding. The 98 are an excellent mix of slide and control. 96 will offer a little more bite. Either way, Type S make an outstanding product. If you have a good deal and price on them - grab them. Highly recommend.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on October 28, 2014, 11:34:45 PM
Riding some SML wide shapes now ( i have never had wide wheels before) they feel really stable, slide great with just a little grip so they are not too slippery and they are D-Gar models so im hyped all around
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Deekay on October 29, 2014, 06:10:47 AM
How did you like the Type S? Theyre 98A right, do they slide good? I can get a pair at a good price and I might try them out, I got some bones v5 55mm and they feel a little too big for me, thinking about getting the type S in 54mm as theyre thinner and lighter.

Deekay - I actually really liked the Type S wheels. The set in the picture was what they call the Modified wheel, they are 96A. Really nice shape and super smooth ride. I would definitely recommend the 98 over the 96 if you do a lot of sliding. The 98 are an excellent mix of slide and control. 96 will offer a little more bite. Either way, Type S make an outstanding product. If you have a good deal and price on them - grab them. Highly recommend.

Cool, I can get them for about half price of f4's so I'll try a pair out. Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: JB on October 29, 2014, 06:40:47 AM
given the popularity of Welcome boards, has anybody tried their wheels yet?

also, any opinions on Gold wheels? they have a insane team, a video coming up, yet i never hear anybody talking about them, let alone skate them.


i have some 56s on a welcome set up. theyre ok, but not really the kind of wheels i prefer. theyre light and fast, but i think theyre too wide for my liking. i have no problem sliding the wheels on my regular set up (reeds), but those welcome wheels are a bitch to slide out. im not much of a tranny skater, but ive skated bowls with the welcome wheels and theyre fast as fuck. way faster than the bones i had at the same time. i could see them being a good choice if you skate a lot of tranny. so theyre good quality i think, just not what works for me with street skating.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: ericw on October 30, 2014, 09:13:10 PM
My friend just started his own wheel company, Survey Wheels. Really good design, fantastic team, and skater owned. Check it out http://www.surveywheels.com/ (http://www.surveywheels.com/)
(http://i62.tinypic.com/r7nd55.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on October 31, 2014, 04:35:42 AM
Was hoping someone would post about those Survey wheels. They look nice. I saw Meronek (or one of the other Boardr dudes) hyping those.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Prince Nelson on October 31, 2014, 12:25:13 PM
given the popularity of Welcome boards, has anybody tried their wheels yet?

I just started skating a set of the green swirl 54's. They're very lightweight and feel about the same as F4's, except they're a little more grippy. powerslides are no problem. I was worried that they would be super hard and plasticy since they're calling them 104A, but that is not the case at all. I will keep buying them.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on November 01, 2014, 07:28:17 AM
This thread is awesome! In Europe there are great wheel brands also! Now i'm corrently riding some Haze wheels (French company http://www.hazewheels.fr/ (http://www.hazewheels.fr/) ) that are 102a... They have a killer team and are pretty good but yesterday i got 2 chunks of them slidding a fucked up ledge... Bummed! :/ Yesterday also i went to the skate shop and got to see some Muckefuck wheels (German i think)... They have loots of different shapes for everybody and all look fucking amazing, gotta try'em next! (http://www.muckefuckskateboards.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/wheels-titelbild.jpg) http://shop.muckefuckskateboards.com/ (http://shop.muckefuckskateboards.com/)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: bbk on November 01, 2014, 04:41:36 PM
I just pm'd heritage, but maybe someone else could chime in as well! I found a good deal on autobahn ABX and I'm wondering how they compare the Stf's and f4's? slidey/sticky/fast/whatever?

Edit: curious about the Aero as well if anybody has skated them?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on November 01, 2014, 08:48:25 PM
I just pm'd heritage, but maybe someone else could chime in as well! I found a good deal on autobahn ABX and I'm wondering how they compare the Stf's and f4's? slidey/sticky/fast/whatever?

Edit: curious about the Aero as well if anybody has skated them?

Hey BBK - I am actually a huge fan of Autobahn ABX wheels. For awhile it was the only thing I was riding. I will tell you straight away that they aren't going to slide like the F4 or STF wheels. Not that the ABX are sticky or tacky because they aren't tacky at all, they just offer a little bit more control. The shape of the wheel is thin, but not super thin. I think it's actually the same riding surface as a Spitfire "classic" shape. They are really fast, and again, a perfect all around wheel for parks, skatelite/masonite, or rough city spots. Put it this way, if you buy them in either 53 or 54 and don't like them, I will trade you something else from my stash because I'd skate them at some point, I can assure you. They're a damn nice wheel. EDIT: And I have zero reason to jump on here just to pump up Autobahn.

The Aero wheels I would actually steer you away from. That's one of Autobahn's price point wheels and IMO the urethane isn't as good. I actually think they are way too slippery. Some people like that, I just wasn't into them.

@SKATAN - Nice looking wheels! I'd actually try those Zwijsen or Fleischer wheels if I could get my hands on them.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: fulfillthedream on November 01, 2014, 10:47:17 PM
This thread is awesome! In Europe there are great wheel brands also! Now i'm corrently riding some Haze wheels (French company http://www.hazewheels.fr/ (http://www.hazewheels.fr/) ) that are 102a... They have a killer team and are pretty good but yesterday i got 2 chunks of them slidding a fucked up ledge... Bummed! :/

THe local here has some Haze wheels- was thinking of trying some out... ive been skating f4's for the last year and really don't see a reason to change.. although i'd give those harrington SML wheels a go
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on November 02, 2014, 01:53:38 AM
Muckefuck is austrian, and they do make damn fine wheels. just send them an email if you are interested, as far as i know they are pretty down to send stuff everywhere.

had the autobahn espinoza 83B wheels, they were alright except i had the same problem as with 83B Bones: they feel too much like plastic wheels to me.

i guess i`ll give welcome wheels a try, i have been thinking about setting up some kind of wider tranny board just to try if its worth it.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: bbk on November 02, 2014, 08:10:38 AM
I just pm'd heritage, but maybe someone else could chime in as well! I found a good deal on autobahn ABX and I'm wondering how they compare the Stf's and f4's? slidey/sticky/fast/whatever?

Edit: curious about the Aero as well if anybody has skated them?

Hey BBK - I am actually a huge fan of Autobahn ABX wheels. For awhile it was the only thing I was riding. I will tell you straight away that they aren't going to slide like the F4 or STF wheels. Not that the ABX are sticky or tacky because they aren't tacky at all, they just offer a little bit more control. The shape of the wheel is thin, but not super thin. I think it's actually the same riding surface as a Spitfire "classic" shape. They are really fast, and again, a perfect all around wheel for parks, skatelite/masonite, or rough city spots. Put it this way, if you buy them in either 53 or 54 and don't like them, I will trade you something else from my stash because I'd skate them at some point, I can assure you. They're a damn nice wheel. EDIT: And I have zero reason to jump on here just to pump up Autobahn.

The Aero wheels I would actually steer you away from. That's one of Autobahn's price point wheels and IMO the urethane isn't as good. I actually think they are way too slippery. Some people like that, I just wasn't into them.

@SKATAN - Nice looking wheels! I'd actually try those Zwijsen or Fleischer wheels if I could get my hands on them.
Thanks for to input, I'm one of those who really like slippery, so I'll probably give both a chance! they only have 50 and 51's and I live in sweden, so trading won't be an option, sorry bro!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: drunk guy on November 02, 2014, 08:38:17 AM
Had a set of the Black Rainbows, good shit indeed.
Been hooked on Prize Fighter for a couple years now, dig the F4s but PFCs just feel so damn good.
Was on the black rainbows forever, switched it to prizefighters recently. Im thinking they might be made at the same place, ether way they're both unfuckable with if your into harder urethane in my opinion.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on November 02, 2014, 08:42:47 AM
Thanks for to input, I'm one of those who really like slippery, so I'll probably give both a chance! they only have 50 and 51's and I live in sweden, so trading won't be an option, sorry bro!

Sounds good BBK. Definitely interested to hear how they work for you!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Julz on November 02, 2014, 09:01:31 AM
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0421/3117/products/polar-american-dream_compact.jpeg?v=1400163110)

I paid 20$ CDN for a set of these polar wheels, poured at creative. I only skated around 7-8 hrs with them because they're too skinny for my liking but they felt pretty good considering the price.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: wallieD on November 02, 2014, 01:12:01 PM
I just pm'd heritage, but maybe someone else could chime in as well! I found a good deal on autobahn ABX and I'm wondering how they compare the Stf's and f4's? slidey/sticky/fast/whatever?

Edit: curious about the Aero as well if anybody has skated them?

Hey BBK - I am actually a huge fan of Autobahn ABX wheels. For awhile it was the only thing I was riding. I will tell you straight away that they aren't going to slide like the F4 or STF wheels. Not that the ABX are sticky or tacky because they aren't tacky at all, they just offer a little bit more control. The shape of the wheel is thin, but not super thin. I think it's actually the same riding surface as a Spitfire "classic" shape. They are really fast, and again, a perfect all around wheel for parks, skatelite/masonite, or rough city spots. Put it this way, if you buy them in either 53 or 54 and don't like them, I will trade you something else from my stash because I'd skate them at some point, I can assure you. They're a damn nice wheel. EDIT: And I have zero reason to jump on here just to pump up Autobahn.

The Aero wheels I would actually steer you away from. That's one of Autobahn's price point wheels and IMO the urethane isn't as good. I actually think they are way too slippery. Some people like that, I just wasn't into them.

@SKATAN - Nice looking wheels! I'd actually try those Zwijsen or Fleischer wheels if I could get my hands on them.
Thanks for to input, I'm one of those who really like slippery, so I'll probably give both a chance! they only have 50 and 51's and I live in sweden, so trading won't be an option, sorry bro!
i had them a couple years ago, they were good.really light, but they feel like rollerblade wheels..
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on November 05, 2014, 05:10:40 AM
Hell yeah Clamy. That's nice looking wheel haul. Great choices. Be ready to slide on those SML! That wide cut shape is so damn good.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: dirtyweemidden on November 05, 2014, 06:28:36 AM
Just came off a set of moshdog wheels (theyre a fairly new company from the UK) decent wheels but nothing compares to f4s.. right back on to another set of spittys
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Tay on November 06, 2014, 01:39:18 PM
I just pm'd heritage, but maybe someone else could chime in as well! I found a good deal on autobahn ABX and I'm wondering how they compare the Stf's and f4's? slidey/sticky/fast/whatever?

Edit: curious about the Aero as well if anybody has skated them?

I had two sets of the Dual Durometer ABX. Fastest wheel I've ridden, and they never flat spotted even though I weigh a bit. The only draw back (for me anyways) was they're super-duper slippery feeling, and you often end up on your butt without notice. Pictures don't do them justice of how skinny they are.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: 2thick on November 07, 2014, 01:41:38 PM
Wondering if I should go for Black Rainbows, Type-S, or Prize Fighters... what do you guys think?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Randozzi on November 07, 2014, 01:50:39 PM
Prize Fighters.

Or Black Rainbows.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Prince Nelson on November 07, 2014, 07:13:56 PM
Welcome Orbs^^^^^ but PFC's are chill if you only want white wheels

also I flatspotted Black Rainbows in a matter of two weeks last summer. Never again.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on November 07, 2014, 08:24:53 PM
Clamy - which set did you decide to give a ride to first? That's the problem with having all those good wheels to choose from, makes it tougher to decide!

As for PFC's I was actually a little surprised the first time I ever rode them. Watching Leo Valls and Ben Gore skate them (and all those powerslides) I was expecting the wheels to be super slippery, but they give a mix of grip and slide.

Earlier today I picked up a set of Autobahn Torus in their new 83B duro so I am hyped to give them a skate this weekend.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: fulfillthedream on November 09, 2014, 03:29:03 PM
Just set up the spitfire conical fulls 52mm 99 - i;ve been riding the spitfire classic shape for ever.. i think i did try some of the flatter bones a few times so its gonna be my first time riding wheels that are wider than the classic shape. skated some flat but will have a full session with em tomorrow.

 so far they feel a bit difference in my skating but nothing too drastic. powerslides are more awesome
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Dr Steve Brule on November 09, 2014, 08:20:09 PM
I've been skating Spitfire Classics for almost 8 years now.  Just bought a set of the F4 Conicals. 

What are the pros to defferent shapes?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: fulfillthedream on November 09, 2014, 09:28:20 PM
I've been skating Spitfire Classics for almost 8 years now.  Just bought a set of the F4 Conicals. 

What are the pros to defferent shapes?

you get the conical or conical fulls? the local JUST for F4's after i made a comment on Jim T's instagram- kinda dope they listened and sent a few sets of the F4's in the last two DLX shipments.

But to answer your question - granted like I stated above i skated some flat and curb so the main difference i noticed with the wider riding surface was it felt nicer power sliding.

I'd like to hear yours as well as others feedback from the switch to a classic shaped - i think there already a few on his thread.  Cheers!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Life Fast Johnny on November 10, 2014, 10:20:29 AM
I almost picked these up yesterday at the local shop based on shape alone.  So sick.

(http://images.theboardr.com/productcolorways/1551_1_600.jpg)

But I usually like to run 100A or harder during the winter here.  I still may do it.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: TehPwnzorer on November 10, 2014, 12:05:06 PM
I've been skating Spitfire Classics for almost 8 years now.  Just bought a set of the F4 Conicals. 

What are the pros to defferent shapes?
Classic shape is classic shape... The conical shape is supposed to give you more of a lock in shape with more grip. Even more with full edition.

I've got classic, conical full and waiting for the regular conicals to arrive. Tbh I don't notice much of a difference. They feel pretty much the same gripping wise. No matter the riding surface, they still slide. Pretty much like Aces still turn no matter how much you tighten them. I've also always liked lock in shapes better. Doesn't effect my skating, just looks more pleasing I guess.

Only noticeable difference is that conical fulls kinda makes the hanger feel less wide than it actually is. That's why I'm waiting for regular conicals atm for my 139s while using the full edt on my 149s (149s too big for me. Those wheels makes em feel like 8.25 trucks)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: wallieD on November 10, 2014, 01:23:10 PM
I just got a set of spit F4 Conicals and their shape is nearly identical to the set of STF V5's I have.
Dimensions are really close also.


I lost my set of Spitfire f4s conical fulls 101a (and the board they were on, bye, bye brand new Indys) and I miss them. Currently riding my 55mm wrecks as the Pis feel too big for street.

Spent too much on indys and f4s to go out and buy a new set so soon - F4s are too good (but I really want to try a set of the STF V5s, love that shape).




mini logo just came out with a-cuts in smaller sizes 51 and 53 , it says they're the same shape as v5 and only 20 bucks. i think i might try them next time i need wheels

http://minilogoskateboards.com/mini-logo-a-cut-wheel-51mm-4pk (http://minilogoskateboards.com/mini-logo-a-cut-wheel-51mm-4pk)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on November 10, 2014, 05:54:12 PM
I almost picked these up yesterday at the local shop based on shape alone.  So sick.

(http://images.theboardr.com/productcolorways/1551_1_600.jpg)

But I usually like to run 100A or harder during the winter here.  I still may do it.

i usually skate 101 A wheels, im skating the Garcia SML wheels from the same series and they feel harder than any 101 i have skated in the past.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Filip on November 11, 2014, 12:12:37 AM
I just got a set of spit F4 Conicals and their shape is nearly identical to the set of STF V5's I have.
Dimensions are really close also.


I lost my set of Spitfire f4s conical fulls 101a (and the board they were on, bye, bye brand new Indys) and I miss them. Currently riding my 55mm wrecks as the Pis feel too big for street.

Spent too much on indys and f4s to go out and buy a new set so soon - F4s are too good (but I really want to try a set of the STF V5s, love that shape).




mini logo just came out with a-cuts in smaller sizes 51 and 53 , it says they're the same shape as v5 and only 20 bucks. i think i might try them next time i need wheels

http://minilogoskateboards.com/mini-logo-a-cut-wheel-51mm-4pk (http://minilogoskateboards.com/mini-logo-a-cut-wheel-51mm-4pk)

Ive seen these Minilogo wheels for mad cheap over here. They have some 101A wheels, are they the same as Bones STFs? Cause that is all I skate, but the Minilogo wheels are 16?, which is like 50% of what the STFs cost over here. I know its all Powell, but do they use the same urethane for all wheels? Or are Minilogos way worse?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: the snake on November 11, 2014, 12:27:43 AM
I just got a set of spit F4 Conicals and their shape is nearly identical to the set of STF V5's I have.
Dimensions are really close also.


I lost my set of Spitfire f4s conical fulls 101a (and the board they were on, bye, bye brand new Indys) and I miss them. Currently riding my 55mm wrecks as the Pis feel too big for street.

Spent too much on indys and f4s to go out and buy a new set so soon - F4s are too good (but I really want to try a set of the STF V5s, love that shape).




mini logo just came out with a-cuts in smaller sizes 51 and 53 , it says they're the same shape as v5 and only 20 bucks. i think i might try them next time i need wheels

http://minilogoskateboards.com/mini-logo-a-cut-wheel-51mm-4pk (http://minilogoskateboards.com/mini-logo-a-cut-wheel-51mm-4pk)

Ive seen these Minilogo wheels for mad cheap over here. They have some 101A wheels, are they the same as Bones STFs? Cause that is all I skate, but the Minilogo wheels are 16?, which is like 50% of what the STFs cost over here. I know its all Powell, but do they use the same urethane for all wheels? Or are Minilogos way worse?
minilogos are good but they can flatspot more easily than STF
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Filip on November 11, 2014, 12:34:33 AM
I just got a set of spit F4 Conicals and their shape is nearly identical to the set of STF V5's I have.
Dimensions are really close also.


I lost my set of Spitfire f4s conical fulls 101a (and the board they were on, bye, bye brand new Indys) and I miss them. Currently riding my 55mm wrecks as the Pis feel too big for street.

Spent too much on indys and f4s to go out and buy a new set so soon - F4s are too good (but I really want to try a set of the STF V5s, love that shape).




mini logo just came out with a-cuts in smaller sizes 51 and 53 , it says they're the same shape as v5 and only 20 bucks. i think i might try them next time i need wheels

http://minilogoskateboards.com/mini-logo-a-cut-wheel-51mm-4pk (http://minilogoskateboards.com/mini-logo-a-cut-wheel-51mm-4pk)

Ive seen these Minilogo wheels for mad cheap over here. They have some 101A wheels, are they the same as Bones STFs? Cause that is all I skate, but the Minilogo wheels are 16?, which is like 50% of what the STFs cost over here. I know its all Powell, but do they use the same urethane for all wheels? Or are Minilogos way worse?
minilogos are good but they can flatspot more easily than STF


Thanks man. I can deal with flatspots /especially if the wheels are 16 euros/, but are they the same hardness? Because I love how STFs feel, and I remember other 101A wheels getting softer after some time, or just not being, you know, like STFs.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: the snake on November 11, 2014, 11:46:30 AM
it's been years since my last set of minilogos, but i remember them as hard wheels(maybe 100-101a), and they didn't turn yellow so it must be some kind of bones formula....
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on November 23, 2014, 06:58:41 PM
I'm a fan of the Autobahn Torus shape so I gave these new 83B a try. Really nice wheels, smooth and fast, but they feel a little grippier than the 100A version.

Both B rated wheels I've skated (Satori Guru and these) definitely seem to skate a little grippier, which is odd considering they are harder.

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/IMG_20141108_194744_zpsde1db20d.jpg)

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/IMG_20141108_194756_zps87ae2878.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on November 24, 2014, 01:59:54 PM
I'm a fan of the Autobahn Torus shape so I gave these new 83B a try. Really nice wheels, smooth and fast, but they feel a little grippier than the 100A version.

Both B rated wheels I've skated (Satori Guru and these) definitely seem to skate a little grippier, which is odd considering they are harder.

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/IMG_20141108_194744_zpsde1db20d.jpg)

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/IMG_20141108_194756_zps87ae2878.jpg)

I've skated my fare share of AB wheels and no matter the duro, they are all grippy. Nothing slides like STFs or the king of powerslides, Spit F4s!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: bbk on November 24, 2014, 02:28:37 PM
My ABX's seem to slide fine, I'm really feeling them!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on November 24, 2014, 02:34:25 PM
Nice BBK! Glad you are digging them.

Like I mentioned to you before, the ABX is the wheel that I always find myself going back to. If given the ultimatum to only skate the same wheels, that would be my choice.

I've skated my fare share of AB wheels and no matter the duro, they are all grippy. Nothing slides like STFs or the king of powerslides, Spit F4s!

Have you skated SML wheels? They slide so easily that they actually take some adjusting to. When I first got on them I was sliding out from everything and it was starting to freak me out. After you figure out how to handle them, they are killer. SML wide shape are probably a close second for me to Autobahn wheels. The thing I like best about Autobahn is they are a great mix of slide and a touch of grip for control.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Young Satchel on November 24, 2014, 04:11:16 PM
I'd love to track down a set of Broadcasts in 53/54 but it seems way tougher to do than it should be. Anyone skating them? I've had PFCs for the last two go-rounds and as much as in love these 53.5 gores I'm looking to switch it up a bit next time.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on November 24, 2014, 04:36:48 PM
I'd love to track down a set of Broadcasts in 53/54 but it seems way tougher to do than it should be. Anyone skating them? I've had PFCs for the last two go-rounds and as much as in love these 53.5 gores I'm looking to switch it up a bit next time.

Hey Satch - I have a brand new set of Broadcast Crop Circles 53MM still in the shrink if you are interested.

If you are in the States I would send them your way for $24 shipped. Let me know.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: 2thick on November 27, 2014, 08:02:40 PM
Really wanted to try out Gold Wheels and couldn't bring myself to buying 35 dollar pro wheels so I bought their "price points" (actual name) for like 20 something bucks. Interested to see how they are since they have such a stacked team but no one really skates them. I'll keep you guys updated.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: 42mm on November 28, 2014, 10:21:07 AM
Im on my third set of the 99a Formula 4s and I have no desire to ride any other wheel.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Life Fast Johnny on November 28, 2014, 08:24:41 PM
Im on my third set of the 99a Formula 4s and I have no desire to ride any other wheel.

Truth.  I bought a new complete tonight because I bent an axle on my Thunders and despite all the other options I went with what I know works.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Young Satchel on November 30, 2014, 03:45:18 AM
I'd love to track down a set of Broadcasts in 53/54 but it seems way tougher to do than it should be. Anyone skating them? I've had PFCs for the last two go-rounds and as much as in love these 53.5 gores I'm looking to switch it up a bit next time.

Hey Satch - I have a brand new set of Broadcast Crop Circles 53MM still in the shrink if you are interested.

If you are in the States I would send them your way for $24 shipped. Let me know.

Thanks for the offer. I may not be skating much of anything for the next few months from the looks of the weather :-( . I'll let you know if I change my mind. You have too many wheels!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: iwshilvdnfinland on November 30, 2014, 01:40:12 PM
Im on my third set of the 99a Formula 4s and I have no desire to ride any other wheel.


same.  everything else is pointless.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on November 30, 2014, 02:10:13 PM
I'd love to track down a set of Broadcasts in 53/54 but it seems way tougher to do than it should be. Anyone skating them? I've had PFCs for the last two go-rounds and as much as in love these 53.5 gores I'm looking to switch it up a bit next time.

Hey Satch - I have a brand new set of Broadcast Crop Circles 53MM still in the shrink if you are interested.

If you are in the States I would send them your way for $24 shipped. Let me know.

Thanks for the offer. I may not be skating much of anything for the next few months from the looks of the weather :-( . I'll let you know if I change my mind. You have too many wheels!

No worries Satch! Anytime brother. And you are right, I do have way too many wheels. I've been back to just Autobahn and SML only. Both of those companies make such nice wheels, and super good dudes running both companies.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on December 03, 2014, 08:21:03 AM
Oh man, black friday sales got the best of me and now I have even more wheels on the way. I finally pulled the trigger on some PFCs.

I am right there with you Clamy. I went overboard with Autobahn's sale and also grabbed a set of Paradise Wheels - Renaud 53.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Life Fast Johnny on December 13, 2014, 10:29:41 AM
New sml D&D series.  Will have to get a set of these.

(http://images.cdn.bigcartel.com/bigcartel/product_images/148551820/max_h-300+max_w-300/sml_AHerrington_D_D_53MM_Mockup_Shadow.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Randozzi on December 16, 2014, 09:08:20 AM
for anyone interested, Prize Fighter has free shipping until x-mass.
http://www.prizefightercutlery.com/shop/ (http://www.prizefightercutlery.com/shop/)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Willie on December 16, 2014, 01:16:43 PM
Got a set of these in the mail (55.5mm):
(http://skateparkoftampa.com/spot/productimages/colors/11412_65618.jpg)
http://spitfirewheels.com/keepingtheundergroundlit/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/keepingtheundergroundlit/)


I'm a bit bummed that the wheels don't match the specs on the website.


The website says the 55.5s are 32.5 wide - almost identical to the 54 conicals at 32.2mm wide. If they were essentially the same width I figured I'd get the KTULs because the first Millimeter goes rather quickly and I'd rather have a bigger wheel for park duty.


However, the KTUL packaging says "Classic Shape"
Height | width
54   | 33.5
58   | 37

I don't have calipers but eyeballing it with a ruler the KTULs are just under 35mm wide. With the same ruler my OJs (spec'ed at 32 wide) look 32.5. So yeah, I'm bitching about 2mm but with an 8" truck a narrower wheel is noticeable. I really liked the size and conical shape of my OJ "surfers on acid" wheels but they were just a bit too mushy.


I guess the KTULs are a different mold than the regular F4s Classic Shape because those are supposedly 36w at 55mm. I just wish the KTULs were closer to the advertised size. They feel like a bigger, heavier wheel than what I've been riding.

Wish they made the slim conicals one size taller...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: N.L. on December 16, 2014, 03:46:25 PM
This is where too much OCD can really paralyze a man.

They are good fucking wheels and the contact patch will get wider as the wheel wears down to your preferred 54mm.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Willie on December 16, 2014, 06:21:42 PM
I know it's silly. I just wish they were not wider than advertised.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: 2thick on December 20, 2014, 05:47:40 AM
Anyone have experience with Paradise? Thinking about getting some of Danny Renauds wheels.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on December 20, 2014, 06:11:40 AM
Anyone have experience with Paradise? Thinking about getting some of Danny Renauds wheels.

Yes. They are great wheels. I am riding the Renaud's right now. Listed as 101 but give a really smooth ride and slide when you want.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Chesapeake Bay on December 20, 2014, 06:41:41 AM
My whole life I've skated Spitfire and I thought I'd just keep rolling with those, but I scooped up these Pusher 56mm wheels yesterday & I'm stoked to try them.
(http://i62.tinypic.com/v7f9et.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Tracer on December 23, 2014, 05:22:55 PM
On my second set of Wreck 53mm, although I only skate parking garages now they are BY FAR THE BEST WHEELS IVE SKATED. Kind of funny Wreck comes out and they are the most expensive wheels in the shop, noone has ever heard of them so they're never sold out.

Bones mean nothing to me now, they are way too slick, I finally get what you guys are saying. Wrecks are hard as without sliding around like ice

Bow to Chet Thomas
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Young Satchel on December 24, 2014, 03:19:30 PM
Anyone have experience with Paradise? Thinking about getting some of Danny Renauds wheels.

Yes. They are great wheels. I am riding the Renaud's right now. Listed as 101 but give a really smooth ride and slide when you want.

Do you skate a new set of wheels every deck? I can't keep up!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on December 24, 2014, 06:57:09 PM
Anyone have experience with Paradise? Thinking about getting some of Danny Renauds wheels.

Yes. They are great wheels. I am riding the Renaud's right now. Listed as 101 but give a really smooth ride and slide when you want.

Do you skate a new set of wheels every deck? I can't keep up!

Pretty much. That is my usual pace. I like to set up new wheels every time I set up a new board. Right now the Paradise wheels have my full attention. Perfect mix of grip and slide and a damn nice wheel.

I jumped back on a set on SML the other week and almost broke my neck! Forgot how crazy slick they are. Excellent wheels, just REALLLY slick.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on December 31, 2014, 08:29:04 AM
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c208/Sulyven/image-2_zps50abc764.jpeg (http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c208/Sulyven/image-2_zps50abc764.jpeg)

Finally put these SML 'Succulent' Herrington's on. I won't be able to skate them for a few weeks because of a rolled ankle, but I can tell they'll be slick. Hopefully not as slick as you've described, Heritage.

I asked SML what durometer they are, but they haven't got back to me. Maybe someone can help me (Moe?)? Online they've been labelled 99a and 100a, and the hardness wasn't listed on the packaging. Every other SML wheel seems to be 101a, so I've got no idea.

Clamy - just posted to you in the Set Up thread...those wheels are killer. I'm not quite sure what the duro is either, but they are slicker than any wheel I have in my rotation and they are definitely harder too. You will feel it immediately. You can slide for days with those things. But your first time out rip a few slides so you know how to deal with them.

I find myself keep going back to SML bc I love the way they slide.

EDIT: Judging by that pic, looking at your trucks you put some serious ledge work in.  ;D
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: clamy on January 08, 2015, 07:04:23 PM
My friend needed some wheels, so I sold him the SMLs. They felt good skating from spot to spot, but in the park they felt sluggish despite being really hard.

I'm a fan of Marius and I'm half Finnish, so I went with his wheel (and Ron Whaley is the fuckin' man!). Went to some spots and they reminded me of Formula Four 99as. They're 101A and a little thinner than what I'd normally ride, but they seem to grip just fine in the park. I'll be stoked if they hold their shape. I'm not familiar with any of their shapes, but I'm keen to try the JJs, Strubings, and Delas.

(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c208/Sulyven/image_zps120fec5f.jpeg)

(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c208/Sulyven/image-2_zps833f5b94.jpeg)

(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c208/Sulyven/image-3_zps7ee74571.jpeg)

(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c208/Sulyven/photo-2_zps033ebf83.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on January 08, 2015, 07:07:07 PM
Good shit Clamy. The Marius wheels look great. The shape is similar to the Dela, just a little more squared.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Randozzi on January 08, 2015, 10:16:48 PM
he was recently posting some stuff on facebook, think he did a new run of wheels in the past few months.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on January 09, 2015, 08:22:06 AM
Like the Woodshop thread......who makes who? 
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: sluggers on January 10, 2015, 12:12:12 AM
I got a set of clammy weak soft Spitfires by mail order, seeing if I can solve the problem...I threw that shit right out the window as I was so pissed...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: sluggers on January 10, 2015, 12:36:08 AM
Nope, no one cares, fuck that!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: N.L. on January 10, 2015, 09:11:46 AM
At least drop the dlxsf people an email. they will do you right.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on January 11, 2015, 12:11:54 AM

(http://images.cdn.bigcartel.com/bigcartel/product_images/148551820/max_h-300+max_w-300/sml_AHerrington_D_D_53MM_Mockup_Shadow.jpg)
Just set up the Herrington D & D series 53mm wide cut today
and heritage to answer your question
the wide cut SML are 100a
and the V cut are 99a

and J...Soy SML wheels are from AEND
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on January 11, 2015, 06:50:57 AM
Found this:

AEND pours:
abec11
neversummer
sector9
3dm/seismic
tunnel
comet
ultra (rollerblade wheels)
alligator/bennett

Labeda pours:
some earthwing wheels
dregs
the new landyachtz
oust wheels
bustin
GFH
o-tangs

Surfone/Skateone
Powell
Bones
Surfone

Creative Urethane
rainskates
some earthwings
gravity
kryptonics
landyachtz
autobahn
lush

Mearthane
Road Rider
OJ
Ricta
Bullet
Crime
madrid

Moska
moska
viking (european wheels)

unknown:
sk8kings
manx/pps
poolking

dunno if it's right...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: hufs calve muscles on January 11, 2015, 07:08:25 AM
The last two sets of normal spitfires have been straight doo doo.  Never again.

Bones all day but thats a standard for most of the people I know.

I just wanna buy some OJs for back in the day feels and that hopefully they will make me skate like Jake or Wes.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: BMCsteve on January 11, 2015, 07:53:56 AM
Have you guys ever had problems with your bearings seating correctly in wheels?  I had the same issue with my last pair of F4's that I'm now having my a brand new pair of STF's. 

Basically on hard landings it appears that one or both bearings from a wheel will push out from the core 1-2mm causing the wheel to not spin freely.  It seems like axle slip but that's definitely not what's happening as the other wheel isn't effected at all (sometimes they will both tighten up on one truck)

I use spacers and speed rings on all of my wheels.  I don't remember this ever happening until the last couple years now it's almost every session.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: perverted super otaku! on January 11, 2015, 07:58:43 AM
Have you guys ever had problems with your bearings seating correctly in wheels?  I had the same issue with my last pair of F4's that I'm now having my a brand new pair of STF's. 

Basically on hard landings it appears that one or both bearings from a wheel will push out from the core 1-2mm causing the wheel to not spin freely.  It seems like axle slip but that's definitely not what's happening as the other wheel isn't effected at all (sometimes they will both tighten up on one truck)

I use spacers and speed rings on all of my wheels.  I don't remember this ever happening until the last couple years now it's almost every session.

Any ideas?
Spacer might be whats pushing them out
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: dbvx on January 11, 2015, 08:36:37 AM
Anyone ever ride the oj wheels at 92a. Or keyframes. Looking for something like a cruiser wheel but not too soft
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: N.L. on January 11, 2015, 09:56:06 AM
Anyone ever ride the oj wheels at 92a. Or keyframes. Looking for something like a cruiser wheel but not too soft

I really like the harder Ricta Clouds. 86a. Really good compromise between a cruiser wheel and regular rock hard skate wheel with a nice shape.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: N.L. on January 11, 2015, 09:58:20 AM
Have you guys ever had problems with your bearings seating correctly in wheels?  I had the same issue with my last pair of F4's that I'm now having my a brand new pair of STF's. 

Basically on hard landings it appears that one or both bearings from a wheel will push out from the core 1-2mm causing the wheel to not spin freely.  It seems like axle slip but that's definitely not what's happening as the other wheel isn't effected at all (sometimes they will both tighten up on one truck)

I use spacers and speed rings on all of my wheels.  I don't remember this ever happening until the last couple years now it's almost every session.

Any ideas?

I get this, first session after putting bearings in a wheel. I just assumed it was the bearings settling into position. I usually only have to loosen them once very slightly and they never seem to seize up again. This is with STFs and F4s.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: VCR on January 11, 2015, 10:09:46 AM
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c208/Sulyven/photo-2_zps033ebf83.jpg)

That shape looks perfect. I think I need to get on some OJ's again.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Noble Experiment on January 11, 2015, 03:33:47 PM
Have you guys ever had problems with your bearings seating correctly in wheels?¬  I had the same issue with my last pair of F4's that I'm now having my a brand new pair of STF's.¬ 

Basically on hard landings it appears that one or both bearings from a wheel will push out from the core 1-2mm causing the wheel to not spin freely.¬  It seems like axle slip but that's definitely not what's happening as the other wheel isn't effected at all (sometimes they will both tighten up on one truck)

I use spacers and speed rings on all of my wheels.¬  I don't remember this ever happening until the last couple years now it's almost every session.

Any ideas?
Had this happen with a set of STFs, the V2 shape. I've heard that the bearings popping out happens with that shape a lot actually. I got tired of it happening so I gave them away to a friend. He never complained about it though, must've not noticed it or he just didn't care.
I've never had that happen on a set of F4s yet though.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on January 11, 2015, 06:52:35 PM
Have you guys ever had problems with your bearings seating correctly in wheels?

Any ideas?

I know exactly what you are talking about Steve. I find it more in non-cored wheels. I can always count on Autobahn and SML having the strongest bearing seat and I rarely if ever have a problem.

This has always worked for me - put an additional washer on the inside of the wheel. After you've pushed in the first bearing and you flip the wheel to do the other side, put the bearing down as normal, then the spacer, then lay a washer on top of the spacer. Push it all together.

You can still use the normal washer on the outside of the wheel as normal. If that doesn't make sense, PM me and I'll send you a pic.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: BMCsteve on January 11, 2015, 07:22:10 PM
Thanks for the tip man!  I'll give that a shot
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Stibbons on January 12, 2015, 12:19:51 PM
Anyone ever ride the oj wheels at 92a. Or keyframes. Looking for something like a cruiser wheel but not too soft

I've got a set of keyframes that I'm pretty into. They are pretty hard to slide, though, and they come sort of pre-coned. Still a good ride. You might want to check out their Ditch Witches (92a).
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: BMCsteve on January 12, 2015, 03:35:35 PM
I think I'm going to try out the Austyn 52mm skinny Sml. wheels.

Just have to figure out what to do with 3 sets of nearly new STF and F4's that I have first haha
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on January 12, 2015, 06:26:29 PM
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c208/Sulyven/photo-2_zps033ebf83.jpg)

That shape looks perfect. I think I need to get on some OJ's again.

Yeah, I've been eyeing those and these, love the sidecut shape and they are a few hairs thinner on riding surface:
(http://socalskateshop.com/images/products/large_42745_OjDelatorreDirts53Wheels_2.jpg)

Thing is my last set of OJs (strubings) felt a little 'dead', still hard, they slid, they weren't slow but compared to Bones/Spits/Ricta they felt a bit sluggish.

Looking at the Ricta NRGs as well.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Ant on January 13, 2015, 12:05:06 PM
What are those OJs?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Stoeipoes on January 14, 2015, 04:28:12 AM
Set up these a few days ago. They ride really good but didn't really test em yet because of the weather.

(http://skateparkoftampa.com/spot/productcolorwayimages/7869.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Willie on January 14, 2015, 05:56:38 AM

Thing is my last set of OJs (strubings) felt a little 'dead', still hard, they slid, they weren't slow but compared to Bones/Spits/Ricta they felt a bit sluggish.

That's how I felt about my 99 OJs. I loved the shape, the rebound was just how I like but they always felt a bit sluggish. Like maybe they did not carry speed as well as some other wheels.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on January 14, 2015, 11:40:36 AM

Thing is my last set of OJs (strubings) felt a little 'dead', still hard, they slid, they weren't slow but compared to Bones/Spits/Ricta they felt a bit sluggish.

That's how I felt about my 99 OJs. I loved the shape, the rebound was just how I like but they always felt a bit sluggish. Like maybe they did not carry speed as well as some other wheels.

My Strubings were 101a, I dumped them at a park =D
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: filmthis on January 14, 2015, 08:38:43 PM

Thing is my last set of OJs (strubings) felt a little 'dead', still hard, they slid, they weren't slow but compared to Bones/Spits/Ricta they felt a bit sluggish.

That's how I felt about my 99 OJs. I loved the shape, the rebound was just how I like but they always felt a bit sluggish. Like maybe they did not carry speed as well as some other wheels.

My Strubings were 101a, I dumped them at a park =D
with the lego guys @ balboa park? if so, those wheels provided hella stoke for the month or two that i rode them for.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Bubblegum Tate on January 17, 2015, 10:47:42 AM
SML wheels are great. Wheels are on par with F4 Spitfire's.

Riding a Youness one now, going to set-up these Suciu ones after.

(http://i57.tinypic.com/30vzrzq.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Spaced Cadet on January 19, 2015, 02:52:34 AM
I got a set of OJ's I'm going to set up next but has anyone tried pig wheels lately. I can't imagine they are that great but you never know.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Noble Experiment on January 19, 2015, 05:52:03 AM
I got a set of OJ's I'm going to set up next but has anyone tried pig wheels lately. I can't imagine they are that great but you never know.
Every set of pigs I've had felt really good. Not the most durable wheel, but they feel damn good.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Spaced Cadet on January 19, 2015, 05:13:41 PM
I got a set of OJ's I'm going to set up next but has anyone tried pig wheels lately. I can't imagine they are that great but you never know.
Every set of pigs I've had felt really good. Not the most durable wheel, but they feel damn good.

May have to give them a shot next then. Someone told me they liked these speedline wheels below. I have no clue as to what is different about the speedlines from the rest of their wheels though.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Ip5sceU6sPI/VAO_UlBoe5I/AAAAAAAAAMg/cxL0xnSRXjQ/s1600/Pigswineflu%2BGB.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: ferraveemo on January 21, 2015, 06:18:48 AM
(https://www.nhsfunfactory.com/images/thumb/phpThumb.php?src=/product_images/18022.jpg&h=600&w=600&dpi=72&q=80)

I've had these for a month now. Even though i asked someone on the set-up thread about how they are and got a bad reviews like flat spotting real quick. I didn't seem to come across that issue yet but i did however noticed that they're kind of wearing out really quickly. I also notice that when i took them off my trucks to swap the bearings out, one of the wheels seems to have a loose core that the bearing just drops right off from it. idk if that's a defect but hopefully it won't actually bring any issue when it's actually on the trucks altogether.

I really like them though. Really smooth transitioning on the curb for slappy's and wallies.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: BMCsteve on January 22, 2015, 03:26:46 PM
Words cannot express how much I love Tired.  Wheels and bearings for $25. 

"The new Tiredô wheel set is now available for sale! Wheels come with bearings for all the Tiredô people out there who hate that whole "Put the bearings in the wheels yourself" process. Bearing guaranteed not too fast! "

http://shop.bigtimedistribution.com/collections/tired/products/tired-wheelset-52mm-and-54mm (http://shop.bigtimedistribution.com/collections/tired/products/tired-wheelset-52mm-and-54mm)

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0039/8272/products/Tired_Wheelset_2_1024x1024.jpg?v=1421191881)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Noble Experiment on January 22, 2015, 10:22:50 PM
^^^
Hah! That's actually pretty neat. I would definitely fuck with those if I found them at a shop down here.
I had some skate mental wheels a few years back (the ones with the corona graphic that came with six wheels instead of four) and I really liked the way they felt. I'm assuming the tired wheels would be the same since they're under the same distro as skate mental.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: 2thick on January 23, 2015, 09:11:08 AM
^^^
Hah! That's actually pretty neat. I would definitely fuck with those if I found them at a shop down here.
I had some skate mental wheels a few years back (the ones with the corona graphic that came with six wheels instead of four) and I really liked the way they felt. I'm assuming the tired wheels would be the same since they're under the same distro as skate mental.
I had the some ones. Loved em
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on January 23, 2015, 05:21:24 PM
Picked up a set of the Ricta NRG 53 Sandovals + Indy Black bearings.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-qNiFkYOM9W8/VMLvdldnNWI/AAAAAAAAXNQ/XcXmPIxBwr0/s800/IMG_20150123_145609.jpg)

Bearings appear and feel to be of high quality, black casing, red inner (one bearing comes with a shield off so you can see the labyrinth/grit blocking cage; when you take them out there is a shield with little instructions where you just removed the bearing telling you to pop it in.

- Bearings are super quiet and smooth time will tell how they hold up

- Wheels come 'stone ground' like Pi Wheels do, what that means is that the riding surface has no tread (yay) and they are not smooth, they have a coarse texture to them so on first skate they felt already broken in.

- They're hard (duh) but not teeth rattling like chrome cores (my driveway isn't the best for sliding and I'm sick so did't put them through any real terrain yet)

- They're light (like most rictas that aren't the optix which felt more like OJs in weight and ride), yes weight doesn't matter but these really feel light in your hand, my last set of speed rings felt the same way as if they aren't as dense somehow.

- They slide and chirp great - feel like Rictas, they don't feel like STFs or F4s.

- Shape-wise they resemble the Autobahn classic shape, not too thin, not too wide, like a slightly narrower STF V2





Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: BMCsteve on January 24, 2015, 07:59:00 AM
I've been thinking about picking up a set of the Westgate NRG wheels.  They have a super slim profile which I did.  Even thinner than STF V3
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on January 24, 2015, 08:38:39 AM
Xen - interested to hear how those Ricta work for you. Also be interested to see the shape profile. It's been years since I've skated a set. I know a lot of dudes swear by them, but they were too hard for me. Rattled my teeth out of my head!  ;D
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on January 24, 2015, 10:54:22 AM
Xen - interested to hear how those Ricta work for you. Also be interested to see the shape profile. It's been years since I've skated a set. I know a lot of dudes swear by them, but they were too hard for me. Rattled my teeth out of my head!  ;D

52mm 101a f4 classic - 53mm 99a f4 classic - 53mm 101a ricta

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-eyJcRsONhn0/VMPoOJxOLdI/AAAAAAAAXQo/CmnUGYD3hPw/s800/IMG_20150124_104139.jpg)

They're definitely a hard wheel @81b that puts them at what, 101a? I loved my chrome cores but had bad luck with my speedrings.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Noble Experiment on January 24, 2015, 11:17:35 AM
Wow, those wheels are white as fuck, hah.
Only set of rictas I've ever had lasted me for ages. I think they were just the naturals. I liked them a lot.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on January 24, 2015, 12:59:51 PM
Wow, those wheels are white as fuck, hah.
Only set of rictas I've ever had lasted me for ages. I think they were just the naturals. I liked them a lot.

My last set of Rictas stayed bright white forever, even after skating dirtyass ditches.

They've a bad rap for flatspotting with previous pours and they don't market themselves like Spit or Bones; I've always liked the way the feel.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Noble Experiment on January 25, 2015, 06:16:58 AM
^^^
Yeah I remember the set I had took forever to turn yellow. They finally started to yellow a few months down the road.
And I never flatspotted mine, but then again I've never been big on powerslides. I do however like to do reverts on a decent number of tricks that I do, especially tricks that involve some type of rotation, and I've flat spotted quite a few sets of wheels doing so in the past, but the rictas were good til the end, so that's kinda saying something about their quality I guess. They eventually just got too small to skate for me.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: VCR on January 25, 2015, 08:52:37 PM
Words cannot express how much I love Tired.  Wheels and bearings for $25. 

"The new Tired� wheel set is now available for sale! Wheels come with bearings for all the Tired� people out there who hate that whole "Put the bearings in the wheels yourself" process. Bearing guaranteed not too fast! "

http://shop.bigtimedistribution.com/collections/tired/products/tired-wheelset-52mm-and-54mm (http://shop.bigtimedistribution.com/collections/tired/products/tired-wheelset-52mm-and-54mm)

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0039/8272/products/Tired_Wheelset_2_1024x1024.jpg?v=1421191881)

Those bearings look like straight dookie
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: BMCsteve on January 27, 2015, 06:03:02 PM
I've been switching wheels around a lot lately but nothing has been faster or slid better than Autobahn's Ultra Formula.  The cores are rock hard and rough on bad pavement but it's worth it

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/steveboston/20150127_175805_zpsbhmvfpoe.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steveboston/media/20150127_175805_zpsbhmvfpoe.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on January 27, 2015, 06:51:05 PM
Hell yeah Steve! Glad to hear they are working out for you. Autobahn is consistently good across their catalog.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: GoodBurger on February 10, 2015, 08:35:43 PM
i used to love autobahn but then got sucked into the whole stf and now f4's... i really want spitfire to make a lock-in shape f4. i would consider those autobahn ultras though.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: mariomister on February 12, 2015, 05:49:21 AM
http://tastewheels.bigcartel.com/product/sunday-combo (http://tastewheels.bigcartel.com/product/sunday-combo)
riding this
Wide shape/conical
perfect
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: clamy on April 05, 2015, 05:30:18 AM
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c208/Sulyven/IMG_4219_zpss5yv6gbh.jpg)

First set of Satoris.


Thing is my last set of OJs (strubings) felt a little 'dead', still hard, they slid, they weren't slow but compared to Bones/Spits/Ricta they felt a bit sluggish.

That's how I felt about my 99 OJs. I loved the shape, the rebound was just how I like but they always felt a bit sluggish. Like maybe they did not carry speed as well as some other wheels.

My Strubings were 101a, I dumped them at a park =D
with the lego guys @ balboa park? if so, those wheels provided hella stoke for the month or two that i rode them for.

I just gave away my OJs for the same reason.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on April 05, 2015, 08:04:35 AM
Good looks Clamy. Interested to hear how they work out for you. I had the Guru Khalsa in 54 and a little bit wider shape, but same 80B duro. Love the slim profile of those Montoya.

And I was just saying to Xen - I was skating a brand new set of SML Herrington Wides and totally slid out and ate shit. I love SML wheels, but damn if they don't make me nervous at times bc they are so slick. I went back to a set of Autobahn.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: N.L. on April 05, 2015, 06:52:26 PM
(http://socalskateshop.com/images/products/large_22923_Pi_wheel_58.5mm_FLG.jpg)

Been riding these Pi wheels the past couple of months. Might not come small enough for some of you. Holding up really well. Super durable, no flat spots, great shape, cored (if you like that sort of thing). If you're a park shark I'd recommend them but they are not so hot on the streets.

I prefer them to SPFs (much better all-round wheels than Bones) but don't like them as much as Spitfire F4s. I have to kill these PIs off before I'm back on the Spitfires but they are refusing to die quickly.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: layzieyez on April 05, 2015, 07:24:04 PM
(http://socalskateshop.com/images/products/large_22923_Pi_wheel_58.5mm_FLG.jpg)

Been riding these Pi wheels the past couple of months. Might not come small enough for some of you. Holding up really well. Super durable, no flat spots, great shape, cored (if you like that sort of thing). If you're a park shark I'd recommend them but they are not so hot on the streets.

I prefer them to SPFs (much better all-round wheels than Bones) but don't like them as much as Spitfire F4s. I have to kill these PIs off before I'm back on the Spitfires but they are refusing to die quickly.
I have some 59.5mm I got from his black friday special.  I can't wait to skate those next.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on April 06, 2015, 09:25:04 AM
Pi wheels are awesome! I still run my 56.5s from time to time. A bit slower than STFs but with more grip at speed.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: franquietits on April 06, 2015, 02:06:08 PM
Holy shit!
Satori Nug core technology - "We are proud to announce that some of our wheels come with an extra treat in the cores. All youíve gotta do is power slide your way to happiness. Currently only available in Colorado, Washington, Alaska and Oregon."
(http://satoriwheels.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/pu.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: louie_bk on April 06, 2015, 02:12:21 PM
Holy shit!
Satori Nug core technology - "We are proud to announce that some of our wheels come with an extra treat in the cores. All you�ve gotta do is power slide your way to happiness. Currently only available in Colorado, Washington, Alaska and Oregon."
(http://satoriwheels.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/pu.jpg)
April Fools
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: clamy on April 06, 2015, 05:14:53 PM
Good looks Clamy. Interested to hear how they work out for you. I had the Guru Khalsa in 54 and a little bit wider shape, but same 80B duro. Love the slim profile of those Montoya.

And I was just saying to Xen - I was skating a brand new set of SML Herrington Wides and totally slid out and ate shit. I love SML wheels, but damn if they don't make me nervous at times bc they are so slick. I went back to a set of Autobahn.

The Satoris didn't look that slim when I had them just laying around. Now that they're on and that you've said it, they do look pretty slim. I usually prefer something a little wider, but they are nice. There's no lag like what I experienced with the OJs. They're a touch slicker, too.

I've seen those Gurus around on sale. Might have to grab them (or some Autobahns  8)). Is 80B equal to 100a?

The SMLs I had were too slick for me, too. I wasn't feeling them, but they do seem like a good alternative to STFs.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on April 06, 2015, 05:36:18 PM
Yep 80b would be around 100a.

That said, the AB thane seems softer and grippier to me. I just came off a set and while they were hard and chirped well, they felt slow (52mm) and didn't keep speed all that well; the 83b felt better than the the 99a and dual duros I've skated in the past.

I like to slide, I powerslide all the time at speed since forever so I'm used to handling it so wheels like SML/F4 101s or STFs are right up my alley as want them to slide to the point of breaking loose.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: BMCsteve on April 23, 2015, 05:57:24 AM
Picked up some Ricta wheels with their new NRG formula.  These are the 52mm Westgates.  Super slim / tablet style shape.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/steveboston/20150422_202921_zpspa9odgec.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steveboston/media/20150422_202921_zpspa9odgec.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: art hellman on April 23, 2015, 06:00:35 AM
what's the deal with Wayward Wheels?  Are they ever going to be available anywhere?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Paco Supreme on April 23, 2015, 07:08:53 AM
what's the deal with Wayward Wheels?  Are they ever going to be available anywhere?

they're around kind of, i've seen them online but have yet to see them in a shop
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on April 23, 2015, 10:28:33 AM
what's the deal with Wayward Wheels?  Are they ever going to be available anywhere?

they're around kind of, i've seen them online but have yet to see them in a shop

Sheesh, their packaging is very reminiscent of the old AB style.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: posguy on April 23, 2015, 11:56:46 AM
I've thought about trying Autobahn wheels but everytime I get new wheels I end up with Bones. Sooner or later I'll get some I guess.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on April 23, 2015, 02:14:59 PM
Took a break from Autobahn and been really into Paradise Wheels lately. Grabbed 2 more sets today:

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/IMG_20150423_170042_zpss9nfw9wv.jpg)

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/IMG_20150423_170100_zpsneovja3e.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 23, 2015, 02:35:44 PM
Took a break from Autobahn and been really into Paradise Wheels lately. Grabbed 2 more sets today:

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/IMG_20150423_170042_zpss9nfw9wv.jpg)

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/IMG_20150423_170100_zpsneovja3e.jpg)

Oh shit... I forgot to talk about my Jimmy Lannon ones! Somebody asked me here how they were and i didnt write it back!

(http://www.skateparkoftampa.com/spot/productimages/colors/1_61768.jpg)
Fast review... I cant really say they are groundbreaking. I havent felt that way with any wheel tho, but i can surelly feel when they suck and these dont.
I mostly skate street and they are treating me well, no chunks or flatspots (unlike my past haze wheels)! They are fast, slide good and are grippy enough when i want. Solid wheels for sure, would buy again!

Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Boomhauer on April 23, 2015, 02:59:29 PM
Picked up some Ricta wheels with their new NRG formula.  These are the 52mm Westgates.  Super slim / tablet style shape.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/steveboston/20150422_202921_zpspa9odgec.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steveboston/media/20150422_202921_zpspa9odgec.jpg.html)

How're these?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: dillanharp on April 23, 2015, 03:06:10 PM
what's the deal with Wayward Wheels?  Are they ever going to be available anywhere?

Atlas had some like a month ago, don't know if they still do.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: BMCsteve on April 23, 2015, 03:51:22 PM
Picked up some Ricta wheels with their new NRG formula.  These are the 52mm Westgates.  Super slim / tablet style shape.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/steveboston/20150422_202921_zpspa9odgec.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steveboston/media/20150422_202921_zpspa9odgec.jpg.html)

How're these?

I won't have a chance to skate them until tomorrow but Xen has the 53mm Sandoval NRG's and he said they're great
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: SHARPSHOOTER on April 23, 2015, 06:58:55 PM
I assumed everyone just rode Bones STFs.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: iwshilvdnfinland on April 23, 2015, 08:14:15 PM
(http://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/images/spitfire-big-head-sticker-p1952-9862_zoom.jpg)
                                                  buying anything else is just stupid
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: fulfillthedream on April 23, 2015, 11:18:23 PM
(http://www.eternalsnow.com/media/catalog/category/spitfire-banner.jpg)
                                                                  buying anything else is just stupid

i kinda wanna try some wayward wheels but i kinda been on the f4s the last year and a half and really dont see a need to change them! each set lasts me 2-3 months at least.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on April 24, 2015, 03:25:08 AM
@Skatan - Good looks on the Lannon Paradise. @Steve - Interested to hear how those Ricta skate.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: ontheswarm on April 26, 2015, 03:27:13 PM
Got a set of gold wheels from a buddy and the first day I landed a trick with a little pivot and instantly got a flat spot. I figured no big deal Ill skate it away. Two days go by and I land sideways and slip out and I got a flat spot so bad I had to take them off. Never getting anything but spitfire again.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: imgne on April 26, 2015, 08:08:30 PM
Got given a set of Satori wheels back in the day from a mate, they were Shuriken's wheel, super small (49mm?) but fuck me they were amazing for such a small wheel, would love to see them to a conical wheel in like a 53mm, would convert if they exist?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: 360 frip on April 27, 2015, 07:52:55 AM
Got a set of gold wheels from a buddy and the first day I landed a trick with a little pivot and instantly got a flat spot. I figured no big deal Ill skate it away. Two days go by and I land sideways and slip out and I got a flat spot so bad I had to take them off. Never getting anything but spitfire again.

Years back I had this problem with a set of Gold (I used to skate them all the time). Something was fishy about them tho. Totally different compound to any other gold I had.1/2 suspected they were knock offs!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: BMCsteve on April 27, 2015, 09:25:16 AM
I spent the weekend skating the Ricta NRG's and I'm pretty damn impressed.  The most noticeable thing is how well they hold speed.  I had the Ricta's on one setup, sml's on the other (both with the same bearings) and the Ricta's were night and day faster. 

They're also really smooth.  Comparable to the 99a F4's.  Xen noted that his were a bit grippy on slides but I didn't have any issues sliding mine.  I accidentally slid out on a bank for the first time in a while.  Mine are the skinnier version though so I'm guessing they would slide easier than a wide wheel

I don't have a single complaint about the wheels so far.  The shape is really nice too.  It's the first tablet style slim wheel that I've found.  They lock into grinds really well thanks to the shape. 

Here is a pic I sent Xen of the wheels next to my sml slims.  Both are 52mm and the Ricta's are actually skinnier but look wider due to the profile

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/steveboston/20150423_201534_zpshp4v71se.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steveboston/media/20150423_201534_zpshp4v71se.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: dillanharp on April 27, 2015, 09:53:56 AM
(http://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/images/spitfire-big-head-sticker-p1952-9862_zoom.jpg)
                                                  buying anything else is just stupid
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on April 27, 2015, 10:33:13 AM
I spent the weekend skating the Ricta NRG's and I'm pretty damn impressed.  The most noticeable thing is how well they hold speed.  I had the Ricta's on one setup, sml's on the other (both with the same bearings) and the Ricta's were night and day faster. 

Steve - I really like the profile on those Ricta. How are they on rough streets? Are they hard to the point of rattling your teeth out? I would definitely be down to give them a try at some point. They look good.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: BMCsteve on April 27, 2015, 10:37:47 AM
I spent the weekend skating the Ricta NRG's and I'm pretty damn impressed.  The most noticeable thing is how well they hold speed.  I had the Ricta's on one setup, sml's on the other (both with the same bearings) and the Ricta's were night and day faster. 

Steve - I really like the profile on those Ricta. How are they on rough streets? Are they hard to the point of rattling your teeth out? I would definitely be down to give them a try at some point. They look good.

Unfortunately I skated parks all weekend.  They are a MUCH smoother ride than the sml's but that's to be expected since the sml's are cored.  They are smoother than STF's as well. 
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on April 27, 2015, 12:47:34 PM
I spent the weekend skating the Ricta NRG's and I'm pretty damn impressed.  The most noticeable thing is how well they hold speed.  I had the Ricta's on one setup, sml's on the other (both with the same bearings) and the Ricta's were night and day faster. 

Steve - I really like the profile on those Ricta. How are they on rough streets? Are they hard to the point of rattling your teeth out? I would definitely be down to give them a try at some point. They look good.

We've chatted about this ;)

They are hard, keep in mind they are 81b, not 83b so not any harder than a regular 101a but also a bit grippier than F4s or STFs; they felt like ABs/smls but that could be due to width as well; last I knew they were poured at mearthane along with the rest of the NHS stuff.

I found them to be extremely smooth and as Ricta (and Steve) claim, very, very fast (I think I brought that up before), so much so that in a park setting everything else felt slow (especially those ABs) I even swapped bearings to make sure that wasn't the speed variable; on regular streets and sidewalks they felt great. They are certainly not as hard as the chrome cores (which I loved).

I can send a set of 53s your way if you are interested, let me know!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on April 27, 2015, 01:09:55 PM
I spent the weekend skating the Ricta NRG's and I'm pretty damn impressed.  The most noticeable thing is how well they hold speed.  I had the Ricta's on one setup, sml's on the other (both with the same bearings) and the Ricta's were night and day faster. 

Steve - I really like the profile on those Ricta. How are they on rough streets? Are they hard to the point of rattling your teeth out? I would definitely be down to give them a try at some point. They look good.

We've chatted about this ;)

They are hard, keep in mind they are 81b, not 83b so not any harder than a regular 101a but also a bit grippier than F4s or STFs; they felt like ABs/smls but that could be due to width as well; last I knew they were poured at mearthane along with the rest of the NHS stuff.

I found them to be extremely smooth and as Ricta (and Steve) claim, very, very fast (I think I brought that up before), so much so that in a park setting everything else felt slow (especially those ABs) I even swapped bearings to make sure that wasn't the speed variable; on regular streets and sidewalks they felt great. They are certainly not as hard as the chrome cores (which I loved).

I can send a set of 53s your way if you are interested, let me know!

Definitely did. I had a brain cramp. I didn't realize they were the same NRG you were skating. Now it makes sense. I would definitely be down to try them, but would trade you something for sure.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: TehPwnzorer on April 27, 2015, 03:17:00 PM
I spent the weekend skating the Ricta NRG's and I'm pretty damn impressed.  The most noticeable thing is how well they hold speed.  I had the Ricta's on one setup, sml's on the other (both with the same bearings) and the Ricta's were night and day faster. 

Steve - I really like the profile on those Ricta. How are they on rough streets? Are they hard to the point of rattling your teeth out? I would definitely be down to give them a try at some point. They look good.

We've chatted about this ;)

They are hard, keep in mind they are 81b, not 83b so not any harder than a regular 101a but also a bit grippier than F4s or STFs; they felt like ABs/smls but that could be due to width as well; last I knew they were poured at mearthane along with the rest of the NHS stuff.

I found them to be extremely smooth and as Ricta (and Steve) claim, very, very fast (I think I brought that up before), so much so that in a park setting everything else felt slow (especially those ABs) I even swapped bearings to make sure that wasn't the speed variable; on regular streets and sidewalks they felt great. They are certainly not as hard as the chrome cores (which I loved).

I can send a set of 53s your way if you are interested, let me know!
Faster than Spitfire F4 101a?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on April 27, 2015, 04:45:07 PM
Quote from: TehPwnzorer  link=topic=82118.msg2320619#msg2320619 date=1430173020
Faster than Spitfire F4 101a?

I'd say so, it's especially noticeable in a smooth park setting.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: clamy on April 30, 2015, 07:00:32 AM
(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/e15/11191591_1429180200719509_1366472941_n.jpg)

I'd probably try these if I needed some new wheels.

It's good to see that Broadcast has been posting photos of Ethan Fowler.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on April 30, 2015, 07:23:53 AM
^^^They look great, I dig Broadcast stuff. By no means am I weight whore, but the Crop Circles (53) were a little heavy for my tastes because of how wide they are. The Shier's Choice (52) were really good.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on June 05, 2015, 01:56:46 PM
Reupped on Autobahn Appleyard wheels this afternoon.  ;D

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/IMG_20150605_164210_zpsas0qd7zk.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: deadhead on June 05, 2015, 04:45:54 PM
I know there was a thread about dying wheels but has anyone ever bleached a coloured wheel to white or whitish?

 Picked up a set of light mint coloured wheels but I prefer just solid white. 
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: clamy on June 16, 2015, 03:43:13 AM
Pretty neat that Broadcast gave Ethan another wheel.

(http://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=BCEFCWH-570-1.jpg&nw=800)

I'd pick up a set if they were smaller and harder.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on June 16, 2015, 06:39:25 AM
^^^That entire new Broadcast line looks great. I love the variety of shapes they used. The Zach Lyons wheel looks really good for anyone that likes wides.

I would be down to give Broadcast another look, they sponsor some really good dudes, but the 53. Crop Circles scared me off a little bit. I am no weight whore but for a 53m wheel they were noticeably heavier and bulkier than everything else I skate.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: sharkin on June 16, 2015, 07:27:22 AM
I destroyed my Scumco clay wheels I had on my cruiser :-[
Totally my fault though, ripping down some barely paved streets.

These were 57mm 86a with square edges. I replaced them with some 56mm 92a spitfire soft d's. Little harder and rounder, so hopefully they'll last longer

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-c56b2Ym18o0/VYAv3jYJzZI/AAAAAAAAGsw/tctDp98BVJw/s912/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: sharkin on June 17, 2015, 06:27:09 AM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4JFl0HEXUGo/VYFuLuL0C3I/AAAAAAAAGt4/TZ4OtJHv8aI/s640/IMG_1207.JPG)

Picture of the soft d's

I like these so far. More control doing tricks, but still soft enough to roll over the bullshit
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tanginacat on June 17, 2015, 09:05:26 PM
Anyone tried the Spits Luan conical? I need opinions fore' i buy thankssss
How slidy it is? compared to 101's spits and ricta nrg (81b)
and the feel of the wheels
how it does on grinds/ledges and stuff
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: fulfillthedream on June 17, 2015, 11:51:26 PM
Anyone tried the Spits Luan conical? I need opinions fore' i buy thankssss
How slidy it is? compared to 101's spits and ricta nrg (81b)
and the feel of the wheels
how it does on grinds/ledges and stuff

there 99a duro. i skated the conical wides and personally prefer the classic shape f4s. my friend who always skated classics has em and isn't too into em. we primarily skate street ; ledges and flat.  conicals are supposed to lock in better into ledges/coping from what i've read on here.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: mariomister on June 18, 2015, 05:21:18 AM
www.tastewheels.com (http://www.tastewheels.com)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: clamy on June 22, 2015, 02:14:22 AM
^^^That entire new Broadcast line looks great. I love the variety of shapes they used. The Zach Lyons wheel looks really good for anyone that likes wides.

I would be down to give Broadcast another look, they sponsor some really good dudes, but the 53. Crop Circles scared me off a little bit. I am no weight whore but for a 53m wheel they were noticeably heavier and bulkier than everything else I skate.

Thanks for the heads up, Heritage. If I do pick up a set, I might size down and grab the Coakley 52s.

I sold the Satoris to a friend. They were really good quality, probably a bit too grippy. I would get them again, as they seem like they'd last a long time.

First set of Prize Fighters.

(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c208/Sulyven/IMG_5623_zpsmjroplbt.jpg)

(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c208/Sulyven/IMG_5626_zpsnyyaam9j.jpg)

(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c208/Sulyven/IMG_5627_zpsv9tmwlql.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Randozzi on June 22, 2015, 06:41:09 AM
Nice, think you'll dig them.
New PFC stuff come out next month?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: 2thick on June 26, 2015, 01:10:10 PM
http://m.socialskateboarding.com/p/oj-iii-gall-getoz-56mm-101a?gclid=CjwKEAjw8LOsBRDdub-swPW8riISJAAnmS01Ypq7dgfjvUi49iBLuUFrVNPrqBfPlwT_a_-j1raH4xoCKuTw_wcB (http://m.socialskateboarding.com/p/oj-iii-gall-getoz-56mm-101a?gclid=CjwKEAjw8LOsBRDdub-swPW8riISJAAnmS01Ypq7dgfjvUi49iBLuUFrVNPrqBfPlwT_a_-j1raH4xoCKuTw_wcB)
just got these Fred Gall oj's yesterday, 56mm is a pretty noticeable step up for me but im tired of taking the train to the city and having my feet go numb. Hopefully they treat me well
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: JB on June 27, 2015, 09:07:43 AM
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/9c5ca54c55e778ab496a316cf0bd153c/tumblr_nqlzl1I6Ej1txs0vvo1_540.jpg)

shout out to spitfire for these great 80hds. this somehow happened when i messed up a kickflip on flat.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on July 21, 2015, 09:55:00 AM
I'm still skating my Ricta NRGs, I honestly can't find anything wrong with them.  I have swapped back and forth with spits - 101 radials (too wide) and 99a classics (too slow).

They're super fast, slide great, no flat spots yet, grip as well as any other wheel at speed, great shape too, not too thin, not too wide.

(http://socalskateshop.com/images/products/large_50655_RictaProNRGSandoval_1LG.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-qLuCo1K2YKg/Va55N9gOvXI/AAAAAAAAbMI/5N5uYg0ObF0/s800-Ic42/IMAG0071.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on July 21, 2015, 11:46:13 AM
Reupped on Autobahn Appleyard wheels this afternoon.  ;D

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/IMG_20150605_164210_zpsas0qd7zk.jpg)

How do those skate? I've considered dual durowheels but I don't think I've heard much about them.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: OldManSkate on July 23, 2015, 01:24:45 PM
I'm still skating my Ricta NRGs, I honestly can't find anything wrong with them.  I have swapped back and forth with spits - 101 radials (too wide) and 99a classics (too slow).

They're super fast, slide great, no flat spots yet, grip as well as any other wheel at speed, great shape too, not too thin, not too wide.
Man, I might have to try those Rictas next. How are you liking that Blood [email protected]
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on July 28, 2015, 09:11:25 AM
I'm still skating my Ricta NRGs, I honestly can't find anything wrong with them.  I have swapped back and forth with spits - 101 radials (too wide) and 99a classics (too slow).

They're super fast, slide great, no flat spots yet, grip as well as any other wheel at speed, great shape too, not too thin, not too wide.
Man, I might have to try those Rictas next. How are you liking that Blood [email protected]

Bloodwizard decks are amazing. They have made all other decks feel boaty and heavy in comparison: they are thinner and lighter than anything I've ridden (even P2s) regardless of size great concave and super crispy; I don't know how they do it or why others haven't. The only downside is they make all their decks short, nothing 32" in length and wheelbases around 14.3ish. My BW is 8.37 (skates like an 8.25), was riding an 8.38 baker (skates like an 8.5) to shake things up and it just felt like a plank/boat (totally skate able just a noticeable/different feeling). I've got an 8.125" on hand I can't ride has it feels like a 7.xxx" so skinny.

Every time I switch it out, I end up going back to it (and it's pretty much done) - guess that is telling me something ;) As of today I am forcing my self to ride fat 8.25" so BW are out as there's is 31.5 long or something, so stubby...

I picked up a set of STF V5s (53 neon Raybourns) as I really like the shape and wanted to try them out. Shape is great and they felt very different than the V5s I have on hand and better than STFs I have ridden before, slide and chirp were great, fast too...but I flatspotted them! Didn't noticed until a few days after when I hit a park, I tried skating it out and doing the flatspot trick, no dice, it's still there. Hopefully Bones hooks me up, for not it's back to the Ricta setup (and maybe .sml depending on the setup).
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: BMCsteve on July 29, 2015, 06:44:03 AM
Been skating slippery parks lately so I wanted to try out a wider wheel with a bit more grip so I'm giving the conical 99a's a shot.  Buddy at the park had them and they looked rad so I picked up a set

Compared to the super skinny wheels that i normally ride, these look like baked potatoes

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/steveboston/IMG_20150728_203643_zpsfuckqage.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steveboston/media/IMG_20150728_203643_zpsfuckqage.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/steveboston/IMG_20150728_203717_zpszjpk1wei.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steveboston/media/IMG_20150728_203717_zpszjpk1wei.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on August 04, 2015, 03:12:36 PM
I'm still skating my Ricta NRGs, I honestly can't find anything wrong with them.  I have swapped back and forth with spits - 101 radials (too wide) and 99a classics (too slow).

They're super fast, slide great, no flat spots yet, grip as well as any other wheel at speed, great shape too, not too thin, not too wide.
Man, I might have to try those Rictas next. How are you liking that Blood [email protected]

I checked out the new drop of BW decks at a local shop....they changed woodshops and lost their thin-ply, light/stiff feel - now they feel just like anything else out of mexico =(
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: TwisT on August 04, 2015, 04:17:25 PM
I'm still skating my Ricta NRGs, I honestly can't find anything wrong with them.  I have swapped back and forth with spits - 101 radials (too wide) and 99a classics (too slow).

They're super fast, slide great, no flat spots yet, grip as well as any other wheel at speed, great shape too, not too thin, not too wide.


I've been skating the ricta 54 speed rings for a only a few days and I love them. They are faster and smoother than my bones 56mm.

(http://i.imgur.com/zaxJFuzl.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: OldManSkate on August 05, 2015, 11:04:53 AM
I'm still skating my Ricta NRGs, I honestly can't find anything wrong with them.  I have swapped back and forth with spits - 101 radials (too wide) and 99a classics (too slow).

They're super fast, slide great, no flat spots yet, grip as well as any other wheel at speed, great shape too, not too thin, not too wide.
Man, I might have to try those Rictas next. How are you liking that Blood [email protected]

I checked out the new drop of BW decks at a local shop....they changed woodshops and lost their thin-ply, light/stiff feel - now they feel just like anything else out of mexico =(
Damn...I guess my deck will be another Real then.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Lonechicken on August 05, 2015, 11:39:06 AM
I'm still skating my Ricta NRGs, I honestly can't find anything wrong with them.  I have swapped back and forth with spits - 101 radials (too wide) and 99a classics (too slow).

They're super fast, slide great, no flat spots yet, grip as well as any other wheel at speed, great shape too, not too thin, not too wide.
Man, I might have to try those Rictas next. How are you liking that Blood [email protected]

I checked out the new drop of BW decks at a local shop....they changed woodshops and lost their thin-ply, light/stiff feel - now they feel just like anything else out of mexico =(

What was their old woodshop?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on August 05, 2015, 01:42:57 PM
I'm still skating my Ricta NRGs, I honestly can't find anything wrong with them.  I have swapped back and forth with spits - 101 radials (too wide) and 99a classics (too slow).

They're super fast, slide great, no flat spots yet, grip as well as any other wheel at speed, great shape too, not too thin, not too wide.
Man, I might have to try those Rictas next. How are you liking that Blood [email protected]

I checked out the new drop of BW decks at a local shop....they changed woodshops and lost their thin-ply, light/stiff feel - now they feel just like anything else out of mexico =(

What was their old woodshop?

No clue. A Slapal mentioned that they were made by a sister company to dwindle (whatever that means since Dwindle is it's own distro., unless they meant pressed at Dwindle), but I've never seen a Dwindle (or other deck co.) make a deck that looks and feels like this. I only know of Shorty's saying their decks are thinner than the industry standard 7ply stuff. It's very noticeable just by holding them (I don't have calipers so I can't measure) but I'd say they feel/look at least 2 plays thinner while still being 7 plys.

Shortys on top:

(https://scontent-lax1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/q88/p720x720/10174838_750939118274337_1384248065_n.jpg?oh=57978f368b4eadf88fbc5544b1096371&oe=563811F2)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Deekay on August 08, 2015, 10:18:36 AM
Sorry to go off topic but since we're on the subject.. Do any other companies make thinner or thinner feeling boards? I like that alot and I'm pretty light so I don't break boards ever. Crailtap kinda has that but they're so fucking flat...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on August 08, 2015, 11:56:21 AM
Sorry to go off topic but since we're on the subject.. Do any other companies make thinner or thinner feeling boards? I like that alot and I'm pretty light so I don't break boards ever. Crailtap kinda has that but they're so fucking flat...

I had a Black Label Alfaro Pro model some years ago that felt pretty thin and light, yet stiff... I really liked that deck! Dunno the woodshop they use.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on August 09, 2015, 10:49:53 AM
Sorry to go off topic but since we're on the subject.. Do any other companies make thinner or thinner feeling boards? I like that alot and I'm pretty light so I don't break boards ever. Crailtap kinda has that but they're so fucking flat...

Older Bloodwizards are that way, new Fall drop isn't. The Habitat Raptor series is pretty thin as well but outside P2s I haven't found anything consistent pressed with thinner plys (and I've looked); you could try the almost Double impact? 6 plays of wood and 1 carbon fiber ply. I've never held one as no one carries them. Anyone comment on if they are thinner? BMC had one I think?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: perverted super otaku! on August 09, 2015, 10:54:58 AM
Sorry to go off topic but since we're on the subject.. Do any other companies make thinner or thinner feeling boards? I like that alot and I'm pretty light so I don't break boards ever. Crailtap kinda has that but they're so fucking flat...

Older Bloodwizards are that way, new Fall drop isn't. The Habitat Raptor series is pretty thin as well but outside P2s I haven't found anything consistent pressed with thinner plys (and I've looked); you could try the almost Double impact? 6 plays of wood and 1 carbon fiber ply. I've never held one as no one carries them. Anyone comment on if they are thinner? BMC had one I think?
The new Control mfg boards are light and feel kinda thin(compared to dlx), but super poppy and stiff with no sag
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: posguy on August 10, 2015, 01:29:08 PM
How are Autobahn wheels? I ride Bones STFs right now but have been interested in Autobahn for a bit now party for aesthetic and partly for Apples.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on August 10, 2015, 01:45:02 PM
How are Autobahn wheels? I ride Bones STFs right now but have been interested in Autobahn for a bit now party for aesthetic and partly for Apples.

They're great wheels, a bit grippier than STFs but other than that, top notch!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: imgne on August 10, 2015, 07:16:40 PM
Got a shop guy rolling on a set of Wayward wheel at the moment, this dude honestly gives no fuck about what he rides, if I give him something, he'll shred it till its dead, so with that being said we normally just take down some notes/comparisons and I put the rest together in a bit of a rant/review of the product.

What we've come up with goes a little something like this...

Straight out of the wrapping you'll notice one thing, these wheels look like true urethane wheels, no plastic looking all white or over kiln'd type wheels like your popular STF & F4 wheels, Wayward look like what Spitfire F1's should of been!
Print wise, you'll notice the wheels have a small logo & size printed on each wheel, but on the other side of one wheel only, a full scale print with the Pro's initials as well, something a bit different to the regular, but its cool to see something a little different these days. Also a point of individuality to be made, each pro has chosen they're prefered duro & size for their wheels, in this case we're using the Chewy Cannon 101a 52mm wheels.
These days, every company is making claims or using gimmicks to promote their product, as far as we're aware, wayward don't, they market the way you would expect a true skateboard company to, let the pro's put it out there what they ride, let the skateboarders choose what they think will suit them and then let the product speak for itself.
We've got some rather shitty surfaces to roll around on in these parts and so far the wheels are holding up a lot better than we anticipated, no faults, no chips or flatspots as of yet, but the best part about these wheels is that you honestly feel like you're totally in control of the wheels no matter what surface you ride, they grip when you want them to grip and they slide when you want them to slide.
Obviously if you were to compare these wheels to the likes of the STF, NRG & F4 wheels, you'd probably find these may not roll as fast as the likes of them, but you wouldn't go as far its the end of the world, as they do roll rather fast considering and as we said before, you feel in control and comparing them to some of those other formula's, we've had instances where they can be a wild ride on certain surface's, not to say thats not fun sometimes, but you can't deny how good if feels to know you're not going to randomly wash out on a smoother'slippery surface with these wheels.

All in all, Wayward's got something damn good to offer the guy who wants to try something new, they may not be the biggest brand out there or the new big thing when it comes to wheels, but if you're the type of guy who wants a good looking, solid, reliable and reasonably price set of wheels, we highly suggest you give waywards a try.



P.S. I'm well aware that other companies do match their wheels to what the pro rides also, but so far wayward is yet to go into detail about how these wheels are apparently going to make you a better skateboarder etcetera etc... If you're the type of guy who likes hitting the local spots/parks, hits ledges, flatbars, banks and small transition, i think you should give these a go for yourself.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: art hellman on August 11, 2015, 06:25:25 AM
i've been trying to get my hands on some wayward wheels, but can't find them anywhere in the U.S. 
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on August 11, 2015, 09:53:21 AM

Obviously if you were to compare these wheels to the likes of the STF, NRG & F4 wheels, you'd probably find these may not roll as fast as the likes of them

I'm all for trying out new brands but a slow wheel is not what I look for. Speed first, grip/slide second. Main reason I can't skate .sml or OJs, they feel soooooo sloooooow.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: BMCsteve on August 11, 2015, 10:37:50 AM

Obviously if you were to compare these wheels to the likes of the STF, NRG & F4 wheels, you'd probably find these may not roll as fast as the likes of them

I'm all for trying out new brands but a slow wheel is not what I look for. Speed first, grip/slide second. Main reason I can't skate .sml or OJs, they feel soooooo sloooooow.

My sml's bummed me out for that reason.  I liked everything about them but they were the only wheel that I've ever had that was drastically slower then others.  101 F4's roll faster than the 99's but it's not incredibly noticeable.  NRG's seemed a little faster than STF but the difference is minimal.

My sml's felt like like I was rolling through molasses
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on August 11, 2015, 10:56:58 AM

Obviously if you were to compare these wheels to the likes of the STF, NRG & F4 wheels, you'd probably find these may not roll as fast as the likes of them

I'm all for trying out new brands but a slow wheel is not what I look for. Speed first, grip/slide second. Main reason I can't skate .sml or OJs, they feel soooooo sloooooow.

My sml's bummed me out for that reason.  I liked everything about them but they were the only wheel that I've ever had that was drastically slower then others.  101 F4's roll faster than the 99's but it's not incredibly noticeable.  NRG's seemed a little faster than STF but the difference is minimal.

My sml's felt like like I was rolling through molasses

That's wild to hear Steve. Both pair of SML wides I had seemed pretty fast, but were really slippery. They sketched me out many times I felt like I was sliding out from everything. I fully back those dudes that are running SML and the team is sick, but the wheels are too slick for my tastes.

To the guy that asked about Autobahn, they are my go-to. Always consistent and I like the feel. It all comes down to personal preference always, and there are a lot of great wheels, and shape choices available from smaller companies these days: PFC, AB, Paradise, Satori, Type S, etc. Autobahn always seem to be a great balance between of speed/grip/slide.

I am currently skating a set of Paradise and I like them as much as Autobahn. I'm going to be staying on these for awhile. Really nice wheel that is fast, and will slide smooth parks or super rough spots.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: BMCsteve on August 11, 2015, 01:56:19 PM

Obviously if you were to compare these wheels to the likes of the STF, NRG & F4 wheels, you'd probably find these may not roll as fast as the likes of them

I'm all for trying out new brands but a slow wheel is not what I look for. Speed first, grip/slide second. Main reason I can't skate .sml or OJs, they feel soooooo sloooooow.

My sml's bummed me out for that reason.  I liked everything about them but they were the only wheel that I've ever had that was drastically slower then others.  101 F4's roll faster than the 99's but it's not incredibly noticeable.  NRG's seemed a little faster than STF but the difference is minimal.

My sml's felt like like I was rolling through molasses

That's wild to hear Steve. Both pair of SML wides I had seemed pretty fast, but were really slippery. They sketched me out many times I felt like I was sliding out from everything. I fully back those dudes that are running SML and the team is sick, but the wheels are too slick for my tastes.

To the guy that asked about Autobahn, they are my go-to. Always consistent and I like the feel. It all comes down to personal preference always, and there are a lot of great wheels, and shape choices available from smaller companies these days: PFC, AB, Paradise, Satori, Type S, etc. Autobahn always seem to be a great balance between of speed/grip/slide.

I am currently skating a set of Paradise and I like them as much as Autobahn. I'm going to be staying on these for awhile. Really nice wheel that is fast, and will slide smooth parks or super rough spots.

I definitely back sml as a company and the team.  It is possible that maybe I got a set from an off batch or something because I've heard others say they are fine.  I think only Xen and I have noted that they're slow. 

I definitely want to give Paradise a shot if you recommend them.  You and Xen are my wheel gurus haha
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: imgne on August 11, 2015, 05:35:24 PM

Obviously if you were to compare these wheels to the likes of the STF, NRG & F4 wheels, you'd probably find these may not roll as fast as the likes of them

I'm all for trying out new brands but a slow wheel is not what I look for. Speed first, grip/slide second. Main reason I can't skate .sml or OJs, they feel soooooo sloooooow.

Fair point, we tested these wheels on two types of surfaces, our local park which has the one of the rougher flat surfaces around here and a prefab park that has slippery wood componants, the wayward 101a roll rather similar to the 99a F4 on the rougher surface park, the STF & NRG formula are faster, but they're definantly not a sluggish wheel, like OJ's and Spitfire Parkburners.
Another point I should make though is our park recently had all the transitions and banks painted, on the banks you could really notice how the waywards had more control and when we rode them on the slippery as fuck Rhino Ramps, they didn't slip out randomly like the STF's, NRG & to a lessor extent, the F4 101's do.. But they will still slide when you want them too as well, rather buttery like a coloured spitfire wheel...?
It comes down to what you're riding, if you're riding shit surfaces, you're going to want the hardest formula's going, as the rebound on those formula's allows you to roll faster without taking too much of the surface in and as much as you can skate those same wheels on the more slick/slippery surfaces, that same rebound factor can cause you to lose control on the occasion as its not taking the surface in as much as a true urethane wheel will..

I only compared the waywards to the new age urethane wheels as they're what are more popular, but in all honesty, I shouldn't, because what wayward has done, is made a one of the best (if not the #1) true urethane wheels on the market and holds it own compared to those new age wheels, but if you look at whats out there for the true urethane market (SML, Gold, Autobahn, Broadcast, Spitfire F1 etc..) you'll find that these wheels are amazing in comparison, especailly for the price (Australian store, our RRP is $60 for a set Wayward, which is also the same price as Spitfire F1's and the waywards are far superior to them, where as the NRG, Bones & F4's wheels are $70 a set)

P.S. - I'm sure the term True Urethane is probably the worst way to describe wheels as they're all urethane, but given the chalkier look of new age wheels, some people may understand what I mean when I say it.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: shit_for_brains on August 12, 2015, 12:01:19 AM
I know none of this is cool but I'm old, I only skate parks of varying quality, and I love the Bones V3. Where can I go from here?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on August 12, 2015, 03:02:26 AM
For anyone interested in the paradise wheels, just go for it. I'm skating a set for a while and i cant love them enough. Perfect amount of grip, slide and are fast and durable as fuck. Small company with a great quality product for sure.

Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: darbuzz on August 12, 2015, 04:04:13 AM
Has anyone tried wayward wheels yet?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: BMCsteve on August 12, 2015, 06:21:47 AM
Just saw that Paradise makes a 101a slim shape wheel.  Might have to pick up a set based on the recommendation from you guys

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/10/2b/b0/102bb088bfe116f34494906df7f80584.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: imgne on August 12, 2015, 06:10:31 PM
Has anyone tried wayward wheels yet?

Read my last two posts m8
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: iwshilvdnfinland on August 12, 2015, 06:57:00 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4JFl0HEXUGo/VYFuLuL0C3I/AAAAAAAAGt4/TZ4OtJHv8aI/s640/IMG_1207.JPG)

Picture of the soft d's

I like these so far. More control doing tricks, but still soft enough to roll over the bullshit

why don't more companies do WHITE cruiser wheels?  (not that it matters because i will only ride Spitfire from here on out because what's the fucking point of anything else)

i don't want colored wheels, ever.  good luck finding a cruiser wheel that isn't purple, green, orange, or sky blue pink. 



those Soft D's look amazing, and i will have to try and track down a set. 
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: darbuzz on August 13, 2015, 02:57:10 AM
Has anyone tried wayward wheels yet?

Read my last two posts m8
My bad dude,Thanks!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on August 13, 2015, 02:23:25 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4JFl0HEXUGo/VYFuLuL0C3I/AAAAAAAAGt4/TZ4OtJHv8aI/s640/IMG_1207.JPG)

Picture of the soft d's

I like these so far. More control doing tricks, but still soft enough to roll over the bullshit

why don't more companies do WHITE cruiser wheels?  (not that it matters because i will only ride Spitfire from here on out because what's the fucking point of anything else)

i don't want colored wheels, ever.  good luck finding a cruiser wheel that isn't purple, green, orange, or sky blue pink. 



those Soft D's look amazing, and i will have to try and track down a set. 

Tons of white cruiser wheel options:

http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=126&wb=all&wc=w&ws=all&wd=all&l=product_list&sortby=id:desc# (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=126&wb=all&wc=w&ws=all&wd=all&l=product_list&sortby=id:desc#)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: dillanharp on August 15, 2015, 08:02:27 PM
I got these, 101s, they're good enough. Slimmer side cut or "conical." Less riding surface than Spit classics and they came in an OJ Crown Royal bag...
(https://www.nhsfunfactory.com/images/thumb/phpThumb.php?src=/product_images/27151.jpg&h=600&w=600&dpi=72&q=80)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: art hellman on November 17, 2015, 10:11:54 AM
got some prize fighter cuts to try out for the indoor months ahead ...
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag108/arthellman1/pfc_zpsmufccf3x.jpg)


the lurker lou softer ones
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.ecwid.com/images/1115074/311383861.jpg)

we'll see if they end up being any better/worse than the SF F4 99a with dust/wood
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: N.L. on November 17, 2015, 03:54:48 PM
Those look great for indoor wood/ rough outdoor spots. Good to see some wheel companies toying with duros other than 100a or 78a.

There was talk of a 95a Formula Four at one point...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tangar on November 18, 2015, 12:41:29 AM
really liking the shape on those lurker lous, let us know how they work out art.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: art hellman on November 18, 2015, 02:39:25 PM
will do

(http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Shaun-Of-The-Dead-Cheers.gif)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: fergus on November 18, 2015, 04:23:02 PM
got some prize fighter cuts to try out for the indoor months ahead ...
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag108/arthellman1/pfc_zpsmufccf3x.jpg)
Not exactly an appropriate question for the wheels thread but...
How are you liking the 8.6? Don't you usually skate an 8.25?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: art hellman on November 20, 2015, 06:24:11 AM
so, skated indoors last night.  the lil place here is one of the dustiest/slippery parks ever.  

that being said, these http://www.prizefightercutlery.com/shop/#!/Lurker-Lou-54mm-95A/p/55250639/category=2470697 (http://www.prizefightercutlery.com/shop/#!/Lurker-Lou-54mm-95A/p/55250639/category=2470697)

sooooo good for indoors!

was ready to slip out so many times, but these had me all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdQDXs75Ulo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdQDXs75Ulo#)

yes, they are that ^ grippy ^



Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jordick on November 23, 2015, 06:46:07 PM
are there any board companies that make good wheels? and are Ab-S wheels good?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: clamy on December 05, 2015, 05:50:06 AM
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c208/Sulyven/FullSizeRender_zpslu66lefv.jpg)

Big fan of Prize Fighters.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: ChuckRamone on December 05, 2015, 08:57:11 AM
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c208/Sulyven/FullSizeRender_zpslu66lefv.jpg)

Big fan of Prize Fighters.

was that typo on the wheels intentional?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Coconut Lotion on December 05, 2015, 11:18:23 AM
are there any board companies that make good wheels? and are Ab-S wheels good?

I hear polar's wheels are good. Anyone tried em? Reckon they'll be my next purchase if they're decent
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: zippy z on December 05, 2015, 10:29:24 PM
I've been riding a set of Reed wheels for a couple weeks. So far they are really solid, stay hard, no flat spots. Definitely going to get a second set if the local shop still has them. Otherwise I'll go back to mini bones.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: johnes on December 06, 2015, 07:09:38 AM
I ordered these in 52 during Black Friday. Probably won't skate them until after Christmas. I've been wanting them for a long time.
(http://i.imgur.com/WV8gfqK.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: VCR on December 06, 2015, 07:39:49 AM
Anybody check out those Wayward wheels. They look pretty good in any pictures I have seen.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Julz on December 06, 2015, 08:29:04 AM
(http://www.nhsfunfactory.com/images/thumb/phpThumb.php?src=/product_images/27303.jpg&h=600&w=600&dpi=72&q=80)

Anybody else heard about OJ's new formula ? Could be interesting !

Behold, the ‪#‎InsaneAthane‬... Our toughest formula yet. Have you tried these? Tough as nails, fast, and slide great.
Top: 101a EZ Edge
Bottom: 99a EZ Edge


That being said, I still don't see myself not riding the F4 train, so it will be hard for any company to fully convince me to try their product.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Dima on December 06, 2015, 11:10:24 AM
STF V2s, The best shape period.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jake From State Farm on December 06, 2015, 04:01:00 PM
I ordered these in 52 during Black Friday. Probably won't skate them until after Christmas. I've been wanting them for a long time.
(http://i.imgur.com/WV8gfqK.jpg)

I skate the 54's of these on my everyday board. I won't buy anything else, ever again.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Lonechicken on December 07, 2015, 06:59:20 AM
Top: 101a EZ Edge
Bottom: 99a EZ Edge

What does that mean? Top and bottom?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: ChuckRamone on December 07, 2015, 07:08:05 AM
Top: 101a EZ Edge
Bottom: 99a EZ Edge

What does that mean? Top and bottom?

are you in the right forum? lol jk
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on December 07, 2015, 07:30:16 AM
(http://www.nhsfunfactory.com/images/thumb/phpThumb.php?src=/product_images/27303.jpg&h=600&w=600&dpi=72&q=80)

Anybody else heard about OJ's new formula ? Could be interesting !

Behold, the ‪#‎InsaneAthane‬... Our toughest formula yet. Have you tried these? Tough as nails, fast, and slide great.
Top: 101a EZ Edge
Bottom: 99a EZ Edge


That being said, I still don't see myself not riding the F4 train, so it will be hard for any company to fully convince me to try their product.

Origionaly I thought them just to be a keyframe style OK - then the update of a 'new' formula came - OJs feel slow to me and have always flatspotted, I wouldn't want to risk it; plus, both shapes are too wide ;)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Julz on December 07, 2015, 09:20:51 AM
Yeah, I definitely need some legit feedbacks from atleast a handful of people before buying a pair. Still, you can tell this is probably the result of all the other companies constantly pushing the quality of their wheels. I believe that it's a good thing for us, the customers.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: johnes on December 07, 2015, 09:37:50 AM
I ordered these in 52 during Black Friday. Probably won't skate them until after Christmas. I've been wanting them for a long time.
(http://i.imgur.com/WV8gfqK.jpg)

I skate the 54's of these on my everyday board. I won't buy anything else, ever again.
Good to hear, mine should be here today, i want to smell them.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xtal on December 07, 2015, 10:18:04 AM
I've tried the Bones STFs and SPFs and they were disappointing. I need a wheel that will allow me to powerslide a long time and have a quick response. The Bones were way too grippy. I don't understand all the reviews I've read where people said they're way too slippery. It's just not true.

Spitfire Formula Four 54mm 101a's in the classic shape have been my go-to for a long time. However, I decided to try something different on cyber Monday and ordered some OJ "Power Riders" 54mm 101a's. Haven't skated them yet but they look and feel like high quality urethane.

I know that the "durometer scale" within the industry is pretty retarded but anything lower than "101a" aren't slippery enough for me.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Tracer on December 07, 2015, 05:05:51 PM
Spitfires have gotten better but not all bones are the same. They have skinnys if you need more slippery wheels and 5 shapes of stf.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xtal on December 07, 2015, 05:41:57 PM
Spitfires have gotten better but not all bones are the same. They have skinnys if you need more slippery wheels and 5 shapes of stf.

Yup even the super skinny V3 shape didn't slide as well as I would have liked. Not saying they're bad wheels, just not for me.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: saltusnaut on December 08, 2015, 02:38:56 AM
Started skating a set of Pfc lurker lou 54mm 95a yesterday. They are definitely grippy. Perfect for our dusty indoor masonite park. Felt awesome! Had the best sesh in a long time due to the added control the extra grip provided. Stil slid when I wanted to. Definitely recommend them for dusty indoor parks.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Such on December 08, 2015, 03:45:33 PM
I've tried the Bones STFs and SPFs and they were disappointing. I need a wheel that will allow me to powerslide a long time and have a quick response. The Bones were way too grippy. I don't understand all the reviews I've read where people said they're way too slippery. It's just not true.

Spitfire Formula Four 54mm 101a's in the classic shape have been my go-to for a long time. However, I decided to try something different on cyber Monday and ordered some OJ "Power Riders" 54mm 101a's. Haven't skated them yet but they look and feel like high quality urethane.

I know that the "durometer scale" within the industry is pretty retarded but anything lower than "101a" aren't slippery enough for me.

i start sliding all over the place whenever i skate anything over 99a... i skate really fast though. wish i could find a wheels that was like 96-97a somewhere.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on December 08, 2015, 05:25:01 PM
Just bought some Autobahn dual duro but I really feel like picking up a pair of those OJ's To see how they compare to Formula Fours!!!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xtal on December 08, 2015, 06:56:16 PM
I've tried the Bones STFs and SPFs and they were disappointing. I need a wheel that will allow me to powerslide a long time and have a quick response. The Bones were way too grippy. I don't understand all the reviews I've read where people said they're way too slippery. It's just not true.

Spitfire Formula Four 54mm 101a's in the classic shape have been my go-to for a long time. However, I decided to try something different on cyber Monday and ordered some OJ "Power Riders" 54mm 101a's. Haven't skated them yet but they look and feel like high quality urethane.

I know that the "durometer scale" within the industry is pretty retarded but anything lower than "101a" aren't slippery enough for me.

i start sliding all over the place whenever i skate anything over 99a... i skate really fast though. wish i could find a wheels that was like 96-97a somewhere.

Hmm...do you skate indoor a lot? When I skate indoor I slide all over the place lol. Outdoor, 101a aren't insanely slippery they're just how it should be. Having a powerslide locked and loaded ready for whenever you choose.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 30, 2016, 07:26:58 AM
How would you guys compare a set of sml. Wheels to the f4's. Been on the 101 f4's for a while now and currently are rocking the Silas wheels. Wanting to give the little guys a shot, I've had two sets of pfcs too so if they are comparable I might grab a set at the shop
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Coconut Lotion on March 30, 2016, 09:44:51 AM
How would you guys compare a set of sml. Wheels to the f4's. Been on the 101 f4's for a while now and currently are rocking the Silas wheels. Wanting to give the little guys a shot, I've had two sets of pfcs too so if they are comparable I might grab a set at the shop

save yourself the hassle and keep skating/buy more f4's
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: BMCsteve on March 30, 2016, 10:15:22 AM
How would you guys compare a set of sml. Wheels to the f4's. Been on the 101 f4's for a while now and currently are rocking the Silas wheels. Wanting to give the little guys a shot, I've had two sets of pfcs too so if they are comparable I might grab a set at the shop

I hate to bag on sml because they're a small company but I had a pair of the Austyn slim wheels with the black core and they were the slowest wheels that I've ever skated.  It was the only time that I really noticed one wheel being significantly slower than others.

If your happy with F4's there's no reason to switch
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 30, 2016, 03:26:36 PM
Ended up grabbing the f4's. Went from 53 to 54 just to do something different ,shop had conicals but wasn't feeling adventurous enough
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Toydivision on March 30, 2016, 04:01:17 PM
Anyone skated Wayward wheels? Are they any good?

I'm skating F4's currently, the conicals, I like them and they'll probably last me another 4-5 months.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on March 30, 2016, 04:13:50 PM
Just bought some Autobahn dual duro but I really feel like picking up a pair of those OJ's To see how they compare to Formula Fours!!!
In case anyone cares, I skated the Autobahn wheels. They have a slim shape but won't slide as well as 99 F4 with the classic shape. They look cool but aren't the wheel for me.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on March 30, 2016, 06:25:21 PM
I hate to bag on sml because they're a small company but I had a pair of the Austyn slim wheels with the black core and they were the slowest wheels that I've ever skated.  It was the only time that I really noticed one wheel being significantly slower than others.

I have no scientific way of proving this but I swear SML uses different urethane for different cuts of wheels. I had a set of Herrington wide cuts that were some of the fastest and slickest wheels I've ever skated. Too slick for me, felt like I was skating on banana peels. A few months back I tried a set of Knox V-Cuts and had a similar experience to yours Steve. They felt slow, gummy, wouldn't slide and not ANYTHING like the wides I had. I skated them 30 minutes and took them off. Like you said, I hate bagging on them but maybe I got a defective set.

In case anyone cares, I skated the Autobahn wheels. They have a slim shape but won't slide as well as 99 F4 with the classic shape. They look cool but aren't the wheel for me.

Autobahn only for me. Not really a big fan of their 'B' formula but anything else they make is golden for me. A lot of different shapes to choose from too.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on March 30, 2016, 09:57:20 PM
Has it been broken down who the manu's are?  There must be the same ones for a bunch yeah? 
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: WeirdBeach on March 30, 2016, 11:27:02 PM
Has anyone tried Canal? The wide shape looks really good. I'm skating SML Herringtons right now.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on March 30, 2016, 11:42:16 PM
99 f4 Classics. Since they've been out and I try something different I regret it.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: art hellman on March 31, 2016, 07:25:17 AM
99 f4 Classics. Since they've been out and I try something different I regret it.

I still want to try out a set of Wayward wheels and ive been curious about Canal as well, the shape looks cool...but I always come back to dwarf's quote...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on March 31, 2016, 07:35:59 AM
Spitfire 99 f4 classic's are the business, and I can also get down on some 53mm ricta park crushers. OJ keyframes are beautiful to throw on the cruiser too.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: coneklr on March 31, 2016, 07:37:07 AM
99 f4 Classics. Since they've been out and I try something different I regret it.

I still want to try out a set of Wayward wheels and ive been curious about Canal as well, the shape looks cool...but I always come back to dwarf's quote...


Yup, I won't mess with wheels again, F4's until I can't skate.  I have loved every set I've had and only replace them because I feel like it not because they needed it
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: N.L. on March 31, 2016, 07:40:52 AM
same. been riding nothing but 99a F4s for a few years now and i kind of want to try something else just for the hell of it. tempted to try some 101 F4s or even straight classics again. but i'm guessing i will  instantly regret moving away from my perfect wheel...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jordick on March 31, 2016, 08:30:46 AM
I've been riding some 56mm radial 99a f4's. Really no need for another wheel. I do love the classics though.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Andmoreagain on March 31, 2016, 08:51:46 AM
Was riding 99 F4s for a long time untill I started riding bigger concrete bowls, where i found em too slippery. Recently switched to 97a (I think) Santa Cruz Slime Balls, which were the only 97 i could find.

Took a little getting used to but they grip great and I find they're fine for sliding around as well. I'm happy here
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on March 31, 2016, 10:16:09 AM
Vision Blurr IIS, OJs were the jam, then came Spit classics and Ricta Naturals, then modern Bones (riding mini cubics as a street skater sucked balls).

I prefer thinner wheels (Bones V2/half the ricta shapes). I tried to love the 99a spits (twice), my kids ride them now. The classic shaped wheel, be it the V5s, OJs, they're like little wheelballs. Rode a few sets of 101s (classic, conical, radial, sstill have'em all), finally settled on the 101a Radial Slims, its the perfect spitfire; thin-ish, hard and fast with a dense feel to them (all F4s feel this way to me).

I'm also in the minority (except for BMC) but the Ricta NRGs are just so damn fast. Faster feeling than the 101 spits, thinner/different variety of shapes (yet providing the Classic and Conical shape). They feel totally different than spits but provide the same effects (grip, slide, speed); they make the 101 spits feel like the 99s.

Can't go wrong with Autobahn either (though like Ricta you have to go through hoops to get flatspot replacements unlike Bones or Spits: send them bak, get new wheels); With ABs, be sure to fill out your warranty or they will ask for pictures, etc. for whatever reason, the factory decides not the buys at AB.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Eric ricks on March 31, 2016, 10:32:50 AM
I gotta go back to 99s, im riding bones 101s right now and it just feels off.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on March 31, 2016, 11:06:02 AM
I was interested in Wayward too if anyone has feedback.

Also, does any one know if Huf is going to be restarting Metropolitan? Feel like I heard that as while back and haven't seen anything since...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on March 31, 2016, 12:14:12 PM


I'm also in the minority (except for BMC) but the Ricta NRGs are just so damn fast. Faster feeling than the 101 spits, thinner/different variety of shapes (yet providing the Classic and Conical shape). They feel totally different than spits but provide the same effects (grip, slide, speed); they make the 101 spits feel like the 99s.


Yeah the park crushers I'm riding right now are the NRG formula.,, Just in 83b instead of 81 and in a wider, side cut shape. They're everything you said. I like them a lot.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on March 31, 2016, 05:49:50 PM


I'm also in the minority (except for BMC) but the Ricta NRGs are just so damn fast. Faster feeling than the 101 spits, thinner/different variety of shapes (yet providing the Classic and Conical shape). They feel totally different than spits but provide the same effects (grip, slide, speed); they make the 101 spits feel like the 99s.


Yeah the park crushers I'm riding right now are the NRG formula.,, Just in 83b instead of 81 and in a wider, side cut shape. They're everything you said. I like them a lot.

I still have my 55mm crushers, I flatted them (or thought I had then found a clear clump of some shit stuck on them, slides and whathave you didn't dislodge it, haven't tried them again).
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on March 31, 2016, 10:05:29 PM
I still have my 55mm crushers, I flatted them (or thought I had then found a clear clump of some shit stuck on them, slides and whathave you didn't dislodge it, haven't tried them again).

Damn that's weird. I wonder what the hell got on them to be stuck on that hard.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: BMCsteve on April 01, 2016, 04:39:12 AM

I'm also in the minority (except for BMC) but the Ricta NRGs are just so damn fast. Faster feeling than the 101 spits, thinner/different variety of shapes (yet providing the Classic and Conical shape). They feel totally different than spits but provide the same effects (grip, slide, speed); they make the 101 spits feel like the 99s.


I'm stoked to be back on NRGs after the last year on F4's.  There's absolutely nothing wrong with F4's but for me NRGs do everything slightly better.  As you mentioned, slightly faster, slightly more grip at speed, slightly more slide when you want it.  I also prefer their shapes over F4's

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/steveboston/IMG_20160401_043422_zpsky90ifhi.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steveboston/media/IMG_20160401_043422_zpsky90ifhi.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: art hellman on April 01, 2016, 07:38:18 AM
I have a set of Wayward Lucas 52s...but I'm waiting another month or so to put em on until the weather mellows out and dries out.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: BMCsteve on April 01, 2016, 09:56:42 AM
I have a set of Wayward Lucas 52s...but I'm waiting another month or so to put em on until the weather mellows out and dries out.

Nice!  Have you skated any Wayward's yet?  Great team and great looking wheels but I haven't been able to find any reviews on them yet
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: art hellman on April 01, 2016, 10:56:16 AM
I have a set of Wayward Lucas 52s...but I'm waiting another month or so to put em on until the weather mellows out and dries out.

Nice!¬  Have you skated any Wayward's yet?¬  Great team and great looking wheels but I haven't been able to find any reviews on them yet

ive never skated em before... took forever to find until my local finally got a set for me. 

arg. SLAPpeerpressure is gonna make me try em out this weekend...I can just feel it.   
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: ALZ on April 01, 2016, 12:36:29 PM
Have aynone tried a set of Jiwaro Wheels? Feedback would be appreciated  :)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Randozzi on April 01, 2016, 01:09:50 PM
Haven't skated a set but I hear nothing but good things about them here in the Pacific Northwest. Home base for them but the few that I've talked to about them give them a thumbs up.

Really digging the new wider Prize Fighters I've been skating.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on April 02, 2016, 12:08:46 PM

I'm also in the minority (except for BMC) but the Ricta NRGs are just so damn fast. Faster feeling than the 101 spits, thinner/different variety of shapes (yet providing the Classic and Conical shape). They feel totally different than spits but provide the same effects (grip, slide, speed); they make the 101 spits feel like the 99s.


I'm stoked to be back on NRGs after the last year on F4's.  There's absolutely nothing wrong with F4's but for me NRGs do everything slightly better.  As you mentioned, slightly faster, slightly more grip at speed, slightly more slide when you want it.  I also prefer their shapes over F4's

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/steveboston/IMG_20160401_043422_zpsky90ifhi.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steveboston/media/IMG_20160401_043422_zpsky90ifhi.jpg.html)

How do the NRGs skate on shitty ground? I'm coming from 99a f4 classics(originally 56mm, now about 51mm) and while these NRGs sound enticing, the ground at my local spots seriously suck and I don't want to have to deal with a super bumpy ride for a bit of extra speed and slide.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: BMCsteve on April 03, 2016, 01:30:31 PM

I'm also in the minority (except for BMC) but the Ricta NRGs are just so damn fast. Faster feeling than the 101 spits, thinner/different variety of shapes (yet providing the Classic and Conical shape). They feel totally different than spits but provide the same effects (grip, slide, speed); they make the 101 spits feel like the 99s.


I'm stoked to be back on NRGs after the last year on F4's.  There's absolutely nothing wrong with F4's but for me NRGs do everything slightly better.  As you mentioned, slightly faster, slightly more grip at speed, slightly more slide when you want it.  I also prefer their shapes over F4's

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/steveboston/IMG_20160401_043422_zpsky90ifhi.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steveboston/media/IMG_20160401_043422_zpsky90ifhi.jpg.html)

How do the NRGs skate on shitty ground? I'm coming from 99a f4 classics(originally 56mm, now about 51mm) and while these NRGs sound enticing, the ground at my local spots seriously suck and I don't want to have to deal with a super bumpy ride for a bit of extra speed and slide.

They're a little more harsh than 99's and a little smoother than 101's.  If you skate really rough areas most of the time, 99a F4's would probably more more suitable but the NRG's would work if you want to mix it up
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: art hellman on April 04, 2016, 06:46:04 AM
skated some Wayward Puig 52mm wheels this weekend. 

similar shape to the F4 classic shape.  felt a little harder/slicker than the 99a, but not as slippery as the 100a.  I kept expecting them to flatspot or in some other way disappoint, but they skated great.  we'll see how they last...but initial reaction is they are great wheels. 

(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag108/arthellman1/ww2_zpssbvwfl7y.jpg)
next to used 52mm F4 classic

(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag108/arthellman1/ww3_zpskfauu6xt.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: alraunen on April 04, 2016, 10:15:48 AM
Anyone tried the pig heads new conical shape?  I love the original ones but the last set I bought was more narrow than older sets
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Elderly Gentleman on April 04, 2016, 11:47:02 AM
I just got a set of 55mm OJ Insaneathane 99a conicals andBronson G3 bearings.  I've only skated them one day but so far I'm impressed with both.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: lamfordie on April 04, 2016, 11:58:45 AM
Currently skating a set of Sml Wheels 52 v cut Ag formula. Softer than the og formula and a lil wider which I really like. Slide a lot better and the wider shape is good to get over the rough ground that is Mexico.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jordick on April 04, 2016, 02:53:22 PM
Currently skating a set of Sml Wheels 52 v cut Ag formula. Softer than the og formula and a lil wider which I really like. Slide a lot better and the wider shape is good to get over the rough ground that is Mexico.
what part of mexico? I was in Mexico city during the summer staying with my family, where they lived near the reforma and the ground there was really bad most of the time. Seemed as if the skaters there have to be pretty raw, but it seemed like there was stuff on every street that was good like in philly or New York.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on April 13, 2016, 03:58:30 PM
Has anyone actually skated these wheels?
(http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/heshdawgzsk8/cabinet/00711241/img60439110.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on April 13, 2016, 04:52:34 PM
Has anyone actually skated these wheels?
(http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/heshdawgzsk8/cabinet/00711241/img60439110.jpg)

Ha, I did on a cruiser. Don't bother.

Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jordick on April 13, 2016, 08:01:33 PM
Has anyone actually skated these wheels?
(http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/heshdawgzsk8/cabinet/00711241/img60439110.jpg)
I think those are actually the worst wheels ever
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on July 24, 2016, 06:51:35 AM
Just grabbed a set of Wayward to check out. They call this the wide but it's more of a v-cut shape.

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/WAYWARD1_zps0mlc7vbc.jpg)

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/WAYWARD2_zpstjqxs8rz.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Main on July 24, 2016, 07:22:27 AM
Have aynone tried a set of Jiwaro Wheels? Feedback would be appreciated  :)

Hey man, I tried some Jivaro's out, they were alright. I also tried Portland wheels and it was the same result, I think they're both from the same factory. There's really no other wheels worth buying besides Spitfire's F4 or Bones STF's. Everything else out there is pretty much the same feel/performance.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on July 24, 2016, 08:33:53 AM
Have aynone tried a set of Jiwaro Wheels? Feedback would be appreciated  :)

Hey man, I tried some Jivaro's out, they were alright. I also tried Portland wheels and it was the same result, I think they're both from the same factory. There's really no other wheels worth buying besides Spitfire's F4 or Bones STF's. Everything else out there is pretty much the same feel/performance.
Ricta NRG's are pretty boss too.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Main on July 24, 2016, 10:13:46 AM
Have aynone tried a set of Jiwaro Wheels? Feedback would be appreciated  :)

Hey man, I tried some Jivaro's out, they were alright. I also tried Portland wheels and it was the same result, I think they're both from the same factory. There's really no other wheels worth buying besides Spitfire's F4 or Bones STF's. Everything else out there is pretty much the same feel/performance.
Ricta NRG's are pretty boss too.

Well, it's NHS so I don't see how they'd be much different than OJ because they're most likely made in the same factory. I tried those OJ insane-a-thanes and they sucked.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on July 24, 2016, 04:32:04 PM
Does anyone know if ricta NRG formula has the same grippy feel of bones stf? Cause ricta NRG says they're 81b like bones stf
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on July 24, 2016, 08:11:25 PM
If you're not riding f4s you're fuckkng up.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: BMCsteve on July 24, 2016, 08:27:32 PM
Does anyone know if ricta NRG formula has the same grippy feel of bones stf? Cause ricta NRG says they're 81b like bones stf

They feel like a mix between STF and F4's.  NRG is my favorite wheel formula.  I just wish they had as many shape options as F4's
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on July 25, 2016, 01:35:44 AM
Does anyone know if ricta NRG formula has the same grippy feel of bones stf? Cause ricta NRG says they're 81b like bones stf

They feel like a mix between STF and F4's.  NRG is my favorite wheel formula.  I just wish they had as many shape options as F4's

nice, i gotta get a set. thanks steve
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: iwshilvdnfinland on July 25, 2016, 02:46:54 AM
If you're not riding f4s you're fuckkkkkkkkkkkng up.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on July 25, 2016, 06:41:58 AM
Currently skating a set of Sml Wheels 52 v cut Ag formula. Softer than the og formula and a lil wider which I really like. Slide a lot better and the wider shape is good to get over the rough ground that is Mexico.

At some point I am going to give SML another look. The wides definitely felt different to me.

The new Danny Garcia wheels looks great.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BINIMd8hVft/?taken-by=smlwheels (https://www.instagram.com/p/BINIMd8hVft/?taken-by=smlwheels)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: art hellman on July 25, 2016, 07:08:15 AM
If you're not riding f4s you're fuckkng up.

I thought the same thing until I started skating some Wayward Wheels. ¬ I'm on my second set. ¬ They skate extremely similar to the 99a Spit F4s (hard to flat spot, grippy when you need/slide when you want). ¬ Only problem is they are very hard to find.

F4s are probably the best ever tho.  It's just fun to mix it up sometimes.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: the snake on July 25, 2016, 07:38:52 AM
Does anyone know if ricta NRG formula has the same grippy feel of bones stf? Cause ricta NRG says they're 81b like bones stf

They feel like a mix between STF and F4's.  NRG is my favorite wheel formula.  I just wish they had as many shape options as F4's

nice, i gotta get a set. thanks steve
STF are 83b bro
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on July 25, 2016, 04:56:39 PM
Does anyone know if ricta NRG formula has the same grippy feel of bones stf? Cause ricta NRG says they're 81b like bones stf

They feel like a mix between STF and F4's.  NRG is my favorite wheel formula.  I just wish they had as many shape options as F4's

nice, i gotta get a set. thanks steve
STF are 83b bro


thats weird, back then i could of sworn they said 81b, maybe im thinking of SPF even though i got STF's
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on July 25, 2016, 07:23:06 PM
Does anyone know if ricta NRG formula has the same grippy feel of bones stf? Cause ricta NRG says they're 81b like bones stf

They feel like a mix between STF and F4's.  NRG is my favorite wheel formula.  I just wish they had as many shape options as F4's

nice, i gotta get a set. thanks steve
STF are 83b bro


thats weird, back then i could of sworn they said 81b, maybe im thinking of SPF even though i got STF's
SPF's say they're 84b. One whole durometer difference lol
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on July 25, 2016, 07:37:43 PM
Have aynone tried a set of Jiwaro Wheels? Feedback would be appreciated  :)

Hey man, I tried some Jivaro's out, they were alright. I also tried Portland wheels and it was the same result, I think they're both from the same factory. There's really no other wheels worth buying besides Spitfire's F4 or Bones STF's. Everything else out there is pretty much the same feel/performance.
Ricta NRG's are pretty boss too.

Well, it's NHS so I don't see how they'd be much different than OJ because they're most likely made in the same factory. I tried those OJ insane-a-thanes and they sucked.
Never skated the OJ's So I really can't say of they're much different or not. But they aren't chalky feeling like I've heard the OJ's described.
Does anyone know if ricta NRG formula has the same grippy feel of bones stf? Cause ricta NRG says they're 81b like bones stf
I love the NRG 53 park crushers. They're a little harder than the regular NRG wheels. 83b instead of 81b. I feel like they're definitely more grippy than F4's but can't say how they feel compared to STF's. I haven't skated any of those in quite a while.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on July 26, 2016, 09:29:57 AM
Ricta NRG formula is great, feels harder and faster than both F4s and STFs.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: pointandclick on July 26, 2016, 12:07:44 PM
Does anyone know if ricta NRG formula has the same grippy feel of bones stf? Cause ricta NRG says they're 81b like bones stf

They feel like a mix between STF and F4's.  NRG is my favorite wheel formula.  I just wish they had as many shape options as F4's

nice, i gotta get a set. thanks steve
STF are 83b bro


thats weird, back then i could of sworn they said 81b, maybe im thinking of SPF even though i got STF's
they make 81b spfs.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on July 26, 2016, 01:27:33 PM
Ricta NRG formula is great, feels harder and faster than both F4s and STFs.

I love how fast they feel! I do like how well F4s slide but I would take the NRG any day.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Esquivel on July 27, 2016, 05:03:16 AM
i used to be a big ricta fan because these wheels are the hardest but it came to a point where i could not stand the immediate flatspotting anymore. last year i got some ricta speed rings to try out and flatspotted them in about 2 minutes. mind, the floor is very smooth and kinda invokes flatspotting (i have flatspotted f4's and stfs in a day there).
i want to ask if this energy thing is any better than the og ricta stuff and if it is i wouldn't mind giving it a try.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Lonechicken on July 27, 2016, 06:12:46 AM
i used to be a big ricta fan because these wheels are the hardest but it came to a point where i could not stand the immediate flatspotting anymore. last year i got some ricta speed rings to try out and flatspotted them in about 2 minutes. mind, the floor is very smooth and kinda invokes flatspotting (i have flatspotted f4's and stfs in a day there).
i want to ask if this energy thing is any better than the og ricta stuff and if it is i wouldn't mind giving it a try.

What about how they feel? Anybody use speedrings long enough to give a definitive answer on whether that design leads to a smoother ride than typical wheels on the street?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Esquivel on July 28, 2016, 02:03:34 AM
i used to be a big ricta fan because these wheels are the hardest but it came to a point where i could not stand the immediate flatspotting anymore. last year i got some ricta speed rings to try out and flatspotted them in about 2 minutes. mind, the floor is very smooth and kinda invokes flatspotting (i have flatspotted f4's and stfs in a day there).
i want to ask if this energy thing is any better than the og ricta stuff and if it is i wouldn't mind giving it a try.

What about how they feel? Anybody use speedrings long enough to give a definitive answer on whether that design leads to a smoother ride than typical wheels on the street?


the place i usually skate has extremely smooth, mirror like floor. using those rictas there felt like i was skating clay wheels. very hard and slippery but this is what i like when it comes to skating smooth flat. i tried squeezing the "ring" in between the polyurethane and that felt like it was very solid, more like an inner core. i doubt they will be smoooth for street skating. its been ages since i skated a set of inner cores but these speed rings feel very similar to the cored rictas. rattly as fuck
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Mr. Kamikazi on July 28, 2016, 01:54:28 PM
I just ordered a pair of SML wheels, size 53mm. I am stoked to try something new, along with supporting three of my favorites; Molinar, Gillette, and Garcia.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on July 29, 2016, 02:55:28 PM
i used to be a big ricta fan because these wheels are the hardest but it came to a point where i could not stand the immediate flatspotting anymore. last year i got some ricta speed rings to try out and flatspotted them in about 2 minutes. mind, the floor is very smooth and kinda invokes flatspotting (i have flatspotted f4's and stfs in a day there).
i want to ask if this energy thing is any better than the og ricta stuff and if it is i wouldn't mind giving it a try.

What about how they feel? Anybody use speedrings long enough to give a definitive answer on whether that design leads to a smoother ride than typical wheels on the street?


the place i usually skate has extremely smooth, mirror like floor. using those rictas there felt like i was skating clay wheels. very hard and slippery but this is what i like when it comes to skating smooth flat. i tried squeezing the "ring" in between the polyurethane and that felt like it was very solid, more like an inner core. i doubt they will be smoooth for street skating. its been ages since i skated a set of inner cores but these speed rings feel very similar to the cored rictas. rattly as fuck

One of my favorite wheels were the chrome cores. Rattled your fucking teeth out they were so hard. Loud, hard and fast. Never flatted then and re-learned bluntslides on them.

Speedrings...I skated a pair on street, they felt great, less tooth jarring than the chrome cores...that said, that same day I rode them for all of 15min in a smooth park, ran into a chunk of mulch, it pitched me and flatted the shit out of them. Never touched a pair since.

NRG ridden two sets, still have them, love them, fast, loud and hard. The new speedrings are made with the NRG formula (my speed rings were the old formula).

I prefer Ricta NRG over everything really...wish they made a narrow speed ring as I am a fan of cored wheels. Would ride .sml of they weren't so damn grippy.

Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on July 29, 2016, 03:45:15 PM
Does anyone know if ricta NRG formula has the same grippy feel of bones stf? Cause ricta NRG says they're 81b like bones stf

They feel like a mix between STF and F4's.  NRG is my favorite wheel formula.  I just wish they had as many shape options as F4's

nice, i gotta get a set. thanks steve
STF are 83b bro


thats weird, back then i could of sworn they said 81b, maybe im thinking of SPF even though i got STF's
SPF's say they're 84b. One whole durometer difference lol

They make an 81 SPF I got a set and like em...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: johnes on July 29, 2016, 08:43:44 PM
I'm riding Welcome Orbs ghost light 54mm 102d, they are def hard and rattly feeling, they dont slide as easy as f4s, but they still slide, i just have to put a little extra into it. I'm not totally sure if they feel fast, i need new bearings. 
The color is sick though, light blue and a pink core.
(https://cdn.daddiesboardshop.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/500x500/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/a/q/aq24924-1_1.1469850190.jpg?)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Silky Johnson on July 29, 2016, 10:35:21 PM
Those look rad Johnes,
To you guys that skate colored wheels, Do you find they shrink faster than whites wheels?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Roisto on July 30, 2016, 01:54:05 AM
Anyone tried the 92A Ricta Clouds yet?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Main on July 30, 2016, 06:21:23 AM
Those Welcome Orbs look like they belong on a scooter or some rollerblades.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: the snake on July 30, 2016, 07:17:42 AM
Those Welcome Orbs look like they belong on a scooter or some rollerblades.
yep, you put the word on it
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: johnes on July 30, 2016, 07:22:16 PM
Those look rad Johnes,
To you guys that skate colored wheels, Do you find they shrink faster than whites wheels?
I've never noticed that from colored wheels, I've had a few white and a few colored f4s and they seem to wear the same to me.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on July 30, 2016, 08:07:23 PM
Those Welcome Orbs look like they belong on a scooter or some rollerblades.
I've thought about trying out the solid ones.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Silky Johnson on July 30, 2016, 09:08:41 PM
Those look rad Johnes,
To you guys that skate colored wheels, Do you find they shrink faster than whites wheels?
I've never noticed that from colored wheels, I've had a few white and a few colored f4s and they seem to wear the same to me.
Thanks for the response, gonna pull the trigger on some colored F4s next pay.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on July 30, 2016, 09:43:12 PM
Those look rad Johnes,
To you guys that skate colored wheels, Do you find they shrink faster than whites wheels?
I've never noticed that from colored wheels, I've had a few white and a few colored f4s and they seem to wear the same to me.

I always found colored bones stfs to feel better than the off white. SPFs feel the same no matter what. Haven't tried colored F4s.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Lonechicken on August 01, 2016, 06:20:24 AM
I'm riding Welcome Orbs ghost light 54mm 102d, they are def hard and rattly feeling, they dont slide as easy as f4s, but they still slide, i just have to put a little extra into it. I'm not totally sure if they feel fast, i need new bearings. 
The color is sick though, light blue and a pink core.
(https://cdn.daddiesboardshop.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/500x500/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/a/q/aq24924-1_1.1469850190.jpg?)


Mmmm. Cotton candy. :P
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: alraunen on August 01, 2016, 06:52:38 AM
I'm riding Welcome Orbs ghost light 54mm 102d, they are def hard and rattly feeling, they dont slide as easy as f4s, but they still slide, i just have to put a little extra into it. I'm not totally sure if they feel fast, i need new bearings. 
The color is sick though, light blue and a pink core.
(https://cdn.daddiesboardshop.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/500x500/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/a/q/aq24924-1_1.1469850190.jpg?)

I always wanted a set but never seen them in shops
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Andmoreagain on August 01, 2016, 01:08:00 PM
Anyone have suggestions for bigger wheels for a pool/tranny set up? I currently ride 54mm Slime balls and i love em but im gonna need something bigger for the big board. Could just do 60mm slimes i guess...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on August 01, 2016, 01:20:03 PM
Anyone have suggestions for bigger wheels for a pool/tranny set up? I currently ride 54mm Slime balls and i love em but im gonna need something bigger for the big board. Could just do 60mm slimes i guess...

Concrete or wood?

SPFs in cement parks or Spit conicals 54+ 56 is the sweet spot for trucks with no risers and forged plates. Standards you can get away with 58s I'm pretty sure, or if you ride tight.

Also check out the Ricta NRG park crushers. So fast!

Pi wheels as well...big fan.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on August 01, 2016, 08:38:07 PM
Those look rad Johnes,
To you guys that skate colored wheels, Do you find they shrink faster than whites wheels?
I've never noticed that from colored wheels, I've had a few white and a few colored f4s and they seem to wear the same to me.

I always found colored bones stfs to feel better than the off white. SPFs feel the same no matter what. Haven't tried colored F4s.

A friend once lent me spare Creature green STFs and they felt better than my white STFs by a bit.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: SodaJerk on August 02, 2016, 01:44:55 AM
Those look rad Johnes,
To you guys that skate colored wheels, Do you find they shrink faster than whites wheels?
I've never noticed that from colored wheels, I've had a few white and a few colored f4s and they seem to wear the same to me.

I always found colored bones stfs to feel better than the off white. SPFs feel the same no matter what. Haven't tried colored F4s.

A friend once lent me spare Creature green STFs and they felt better than my white STFs by a bit.
When I rode Bones I messed around with coloured ones for a bit and they felt a little grippier and less chalky when they slid. I preferred them until switching to F4's
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Phillip Flathead on August 02, 2016, 07:29:07 PM
Does anyone have any advice for a nice hard wheel for street that is good for power slides and isn't unusable on not so perfect roads?  My stf v3's are getting small after 8 months of hill bombs and powerslides and I'm looking for my next set.  How do spitfire f4 101a and those Ricta nrg 101's compare to stfs in regard to slidablility, grip, speed,  and handling on somewhat rough surfaces?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on August 02, 2016, 08:00:40 PM
 I would say PFC but on unperfect surfaces they'll rattle your fillings out
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Phillip Flathead on August 02, 2016, 08:05:19 PM
I would say PFC but on unperfect surfaces they'll rattle your fillings out

how would you describe them relative to stf's?  I mean stfs are my baseline so if it isn't any better that's acceptable, but if it's worse they probably won't be a great fit.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on August 02, 2016, 08:39:00 PM
I would say PFC but on unperfect surfaces they'll rattle your fillings out

how would you describe them relative to stf's?  I mean stfs are my baseline so if it isn't any better that's acceptable, but if it's worse they probably won't be a great fit.

Spit F4s 101s will do you just fine on shit roads, I find them a tad grippier than STFs.

Rictas will feel harder and faster than both; slide wise I'd put them right in the middle, not as grippy as F4s but not as slippery as stf.

Never skated PFC.

Speed: Ricta>f4>stf (also, skate faster)
Grip: F4>Ricta>stf
Slide: bones/Ricta>F4


Bones break free faster than either and flatspot the least.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on August 02, 2016, 08:58:08 PM
F4 classic shape is all you need. Any surface, they're fine, 99 or 101, the difference isn't that great. They do everything you need them to.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on August 02, 2016, 09:02:53 PM
Does anyone have any advice for a nice hard wheel for street that is good for power slides and isn't unusable on not so perfect roads?  My stf v3's are getting small after 8 months of hill bombs and powerslides and I'm looking for my next set.  How do spitfire f4 101a and those Ricta nrg 101's compare to stfs in regard to slidablility, grip, speed,  and handling on somewhat rough surfaces?

It's all personal preference, but Autobahn wheels do everything I need them too. I've been skating Autobahn for years. I don't always skate smooth concrete parks either. I typically skate fucked up and harsh spots. I also like skating spot to spot on rough city roads.

There are more choices than Spitfire and Bones. It's all trial and error, finding out what works for you and what you want to support.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Lonechicken on August 03, 2016, 06:44:44 AM
i used to be a big ricta fan because these wheels are the hardest but it came to a point where i could not stand the immediate flatspotting anymore. last year i got some ricta speed rings to try out and flatspotted them in about 2 minutes. mind, the floor is very smooth and kinda invokes flatspotting (i have flatspotted f4's and stfs in a day there).
i want to ask if this energy thing is any better than the og ricta stuff and if it is i wouldn't mind giving it a try.

What about how they feel? Anybody use speedrings long enough to give a definitive answer on whether that design leads to a smoother ride than typical wheels on the street?


the place i usually skate has extremely smooth, mirror like floor. using those rictas there felt like i was skating clay wheels. very hard and slippery but this is what i like when it comes to skating smooth flat. i tried squeezing the "ring" in between the polyurethane and that felt like it was very solid, more like an inner core. i doubt they will be smoooth for street skating. its been ages since i skated a set of inner cores but these speed rings feel very similar to the cored rictas. rattly as fuck

One of my favorite wheels were the chrome cores. Rattled your fucking teeth out they were so hard. Loud, hard and fast. Never flatted then and re-learned bluntslides on them.

Speedrings...I skated a pair on street, they felt great, less tooth jarring than the chrome cores...that said, that same day I rode them for all of 15min in a smooth park, ran into a chunk of mulch, it pitched me and flatted the shit out of them. Never touched a pair since.

NRG ridden two sets, still have them, love them, fast, loud and hard. The new speedrings are made with the NRG formula (my speed rings were the old formula).

I prefer Ricta NRG over everything really...wish they made a narrow speed ring as I am a fan of cored wheels. Would ride .sml of they weren't so damn grippy.


Good to know, thanks. Now to wait for them to release a set of green ones with the NRG formula.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on August 03, 2016, 09:47:01 AM
Sounds like spitfire 101's are going to be my best choice, I just have to figure out what shape.  If I want a 54 or 56mm wheel, what is the best all around shape?

Can't tell if this is a serious post. You are asking another skateboarder what is the best shape of a wheel in 54 or 56 for you?

Here is an entire thread dedicated to Spitfire Wheels: http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=68020.0 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=68020.0)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Main on August 03, 2016, 11:26:47 AM
Spitfire F4 101's classic shape 53mm-54mm. Doesn't get any better. If you go with 56mm you're in riser territory.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Phillip Flathead on August 03, 2016, 11:32:59 AM
Spitfire F4 101's classic shape 53mm-54mm. Doesn't get any better. If you go with 56mm you're in riser territory.

Thanks for the input
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on August 03, 2016, 02:39:37 PM
Spitfire F4 101's classic shape 53mm-54mm. Doesn't get any better. If you go with 56mm you're in riser territory.

Thanks for the input

If you are thinking of going past 54mm I'd suggest going for radials or conicals (full, slim, whateverthefuck) over classics.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Main on August 03, 2016, 03:22:13 PM
Spitfire F4 101's classic shape 53mm-54mm. Doesn't get any better. If you go with 56mm you're in riser territory.

Thanks for the input

If you are thinking of going past 54mm I'd suggest going for radials or conicals (full, slim, whateverthefuck) over classics.

Definitely, I feel like with bigger wheels ya gotta go with a shape. It would be like buying a 9.5" popsicle deck...why? Go with the shape!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on August 06, 2016, 11:45:09 AM
Spitfire F4 101's classic shape 53mm-54mm. Doesn't get any better. If you go with 56mm you're in riser territory.

Thanks for the input

If you are thinking of going past 54mm I'd suggest going for radials or conicals (full, slim, whateverthefuck) over classics.

Definitely, I feel like with bigger wheels ya gotta go with a shape. It would be like buying a 9.5" popsicle deck...why? Go with the shape!

Ask BMC ;P
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Main on August 06, 2016, 07:38:09 PM
Spitfire F4 101's classic shape 53mm-54mm. Doesn't get any better. If you go with 56mm you're in riser territory.

Thanks for the input

If you are thinking of going past 54mm I'd suggest going for radials or conicals (full, slim, whateverthefuck) over classics.

Definitely, I feel like with bigger wheels ya gotta go with a shape. It would be like buying a 9.5" popsicle deck...why? Go with the shape!

Ask BMC ;P

Steve gets a pass cause he's a rad dude.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on August 08, 2016, 03:05:32 PM
I was there for Steve's 9 phase. It was a fun month.

Anyone know anything about the sml "ag" formula? Can't find any info, even a durometer.

Where you at Cliff?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: max power on August 08, 2016, 07:45:15 PM
I liked the Insane-a-thane I had fine, but got a set of the Ricta Curren Caples NRG's. They are great, they might even be better than the 101 F4's, which have been the yardstick for me for years now.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: danjtony on August 08, 2016, 08:02:34 PM
Do the insane-a-thanes wear down/flat spot fast? I picked up a set of 53mm 99a cause they were on sale and I was ordering some other shit. Haven't tried em out yet though.

Not too picky about wheels. In the last year I've ridden pigs, F4s, Spit classics, mini logo. Live in Taiwan, so I just ride whatever I can get. Just want something hard/fast and won't wear down in a matter of weeks. I like most NHS products though, so I figured I'd try some OJ's.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Deekay on August 09, 2016, 04:32:17 AM
Spitfire F4 101's classic shape 53mm-54mm. Doesn't get any better. If you go with 56mm you're in riser territory.

I just gotta ventilate on these again.

I ride the 53's and I never would have imagined a wheel could make such a huge positive difference. Super fast, grippy when you need them to be on any surface but slide super easy whenever you want them to on any surface (haven't tried indoors, but "slippery" concrete). I can't imagine anything being as good or better than these.. So to anyone contemplating whether to get them or not, do it and be sold forever.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: cliff on August 24, 2016, 12:27:39 PM
I was there for Steve's 9 phase. It was a fun month.

Anyone know anything about the sml "ag" formula? Can't find any info, even a durometer.

Where you at Cliff?

Haha damn I never come in this zone.

the AG formula is basically closer to a Spitfire feel, 99A Duro. He loves that they have a little less rebound and slide a bit easier.

Also of the dudes on the team love them me personally I like our OG formula it's closer to a Bones STF.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on August 24, 2016, 03:56:22 PM
I was there for Steve's 9 phase. It was a fun month.

Anyone know anything about the sml "ag" formula? Can't find any info, even a durometer.

Where you at Cliff?

Haha damn I never come in this zone.

the AG formula is basically closer to a Spitfire feel, 99A Duro. He loves that they have a little less rebound and slide a bit easier.

Also of the dudes on the team love them me personally I like our OG formula it's closer to a Bones STF.

Thanks for the heads up! I ended up getting them anyway, been on them for like 2 weeks, love them, no complaints. They seem faster than 99.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on August 25, 2016, 07:41:14 AM
F4 classic shape is all you need. Any surface, they're fine, 99 or 101, the difference isn't that great. They do everything you need them to.
I like my wheels as hard as diamonds. I usually under rotate a lot of my tricks too, so the more a wheels slides for me the better haha.

That is why I have been riding STFs for years.


 As for the shape? V3s every time. Love a skinny wheel but prefer rounder wheels to squareish. V3s are everything I look for in a wheel.

Spitfire's classic shape is WAAAY to wide for my tastes.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on August 25, 2016, 09:11:51 AM
F4 classic shape is all you need. Any surface, they're fine, 99 or 101, the difference isn't that great. They do everything you need them to.
I like my wheels as hard as diamonds. I usually under rotate a lot of my tricks too, so the more a wheels slides for me the better haha.

That is why I have been riding STFs for years.


 As for the shape? V3s every time. Love a skinny wheel but prefer rounder wheels to squareish. V3s are everything I look for in a wheel.

Spitfire's classic shape is WAAAY to wide for my tastes.

Hard as diamonds? Ricta.

Classic spits are like tennis balls.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on August 25, 2016, 10:55:22 PM
F4 classic shape is all you need. Any surface, they're fine, 99 or 101, the difference isn't that great. They do everything you need them to.
I like my wheels as hard as diamonds. I usually under rotate a lot of my tricks too, so the more a wheels slides for me the better haha.

That is why I have been riding STFs for years.


 As for the shape? V3s every time. Love a skinny wheel but prefer rounder wheels to squareish. V3s are everything I look for in a wheel.

Spitfire's classic shape is WAAAY to wide for my tastes.

Hard as diamonds? Ricta.

Classic spits are like tennis balls.

Really? I haven't had a Ricta since the boltz (my shop had some on sale) so I may be wrong, but I always remember Rictas being 81B and STFs are 83B. Are you saying that Ricta makes wheels harder than 83B!


Also that Spitfire comment made me chuckle. So true!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on August 29, 2016, 02:29:25 PM
I know some guys here mess with Satori, but the only place i could find them was direct from them, and they're $$$. More than F4s. Price turned me off, otherwise I'd be down to try them again.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on August 29, 2016, 02:31:31 PM
I know some guys here mess with Satori, but the only place i could find them was direct from them, and they're $$$. More than F4s. Price turned me off, otherwise I'd be down to try them again.

Agreed brother. Buying direct from Culture Skate puts the price around $40 which is a little excessive for wheels. Truthfully? I know this sucks to say but check Amazon. Depending what size you are looking for you will find them there.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on August 29, 2016, 05:35:10 PM
I know some guys here mess with Satori, but the only place i could find them was direct from them, and they're $$$. More than F4s. Price turned me off, otherwise I'd be down to try them again.

Agreed brother. Buying direct from Culture Skate puts the price around $40 which is a little excessive for wheels. Truthfully? I know this sucks to say but check Amazon. Depending what size you are looking for you will find them there.
Some of these prices are ridiculously low (and with Prime)
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=satori+wheels (https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=satori+wheels)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: NowhereInLife on September 01, 2016, 08:01:21 PM
Does anyone have any advice for a nice hard wheel for street that is good for power slides and isn't unusable on not so perfect roads?  My stf v3's are getting small after 8 months of hill bombs and powerslides and I'm looking for my next set.  How do spitfire f4 101a and those Ricta nrg 101's compare to stfs in regard to slidablility, grip, speed,  and handling on somewhat rough surfaces?

Just stick to stf.  I try lots of wheels.  The rebound keeps you going.  Everything else slows down considerably more when you hit the less perfect asphalt or metal grating etc.  Can't speak on the rictas and want to try some.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: art hellman on September 07, 2016, 08:06:51 AM
I'd be interested in trying out those new AG sml. wheels whenever they come out. 
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: VCR on September 07, 2016, 08:44:32 AM
Is there a new Ag formula? The second Grocery Bag series they did is the best wheel I have ever had.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on September 07, 2016, 09:11:28 AM
Yea I have the AG formula "Grocery Bag" v-cuts and I loooooove these things.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: art hellman on September 07, 2016, 09:19:55 AM
Is there a new Ag formula? The second Grocery Bag series they did is the best wheel I have ever had.

http://www.instagram.com/p/BJ_rxnuBnii/?taken-by=smlwheels (http://www.instagram.com/p/BJ_rxnuBnii/?taken-by=smlwheels)

I like the look of the wider shape on the right
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on September 07, 2016, 10:06:19 AM
Is there a new Ag formula? The second Grocery Bag series they did is the best wheel I have ever had.

http://www.instagram.com/p/BJ_rxnuBnii/?taken-by=smlwheels (http://www.instagram.com/p/BJ_rxnuBnii/?taken-by=smlwheels)

I like the look of the wider shape on the right
That's the v-cut, same thing I have just different graphics. They're similar to conical fulls.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: art hellman on September 07, 2016, 10:10:55 AM
thanks for the knowledge
(http://media0.giphy.com/media/Y2nbrJyAR6RiM/200_s.gif)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: VCR on September 07, 2016, 10:31:08 AM
While we are on the topic of SML wheels. I got these a couple weeks ago and I thought they would be the usual SML formula but was I wrong. They are pretty much a cruiser wheel. Be advised!

(http://thumbs4.picclick.com/d/l400/pict/152150889031_/SML-Wheels-Austyn-Gillette-Donta-Wide-Cut-Skateboard.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Lmaopercs on September 09, 2016, 11:38:53 PM
How do you guys feel about the Spitfire Chargers? Are they good cruisers? I like that they're regular shaped wheels, haven't ordered them yet.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Roisto on September 10, 2016, 12:29:53 AM
How do you guys feel about the Spitfire Chargers? Are they good cruisers? I like that they're regular shaped wheels, haven't ordered them yet.

I've got a set. Only briefly tried them so far and with different bearings than on my current cruiser wheels (OJ Keyframes), so take this with a grain of salt, but I much preferred the OJs. Smoother and faster ride on the OJs. Both equally grippy and bouncy, I'd say.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on September 10, 2016, 01:23:26 AM
How do you guys feel about the Spitfire Chargers? Are they good cruisers? I like that they're regular shaped wheels, haven't ordered them yet.

I've got a set. Only briefly tried them so far and with different bearings than on my current cruiser wheels (OJ Keyframes), so take this with a grain of salt, but I much preferred the OJs. Smoother and faster ride on the OJs. Both equally grippy and bouncy, I'd say.
Keyframes are life.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: cliff on September 13, 2016, 01:52:51 PM
While we are on the topic of SML wheels. I got these a couple weeks ago and I thought they would be the usual SML formula but was I wrong. They are pretty much a cruiser wheel. Be advised!

(http://thumbs4.picclick.com/d/l400/pict/152150889031_/SML-Wheels-Austyn-Gillette-Donta-Wide-Cut-Skateboard.jpg)

Check your DM's homie, let's get that fixed!!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: gsosa on September 14, 2016, 09:21:15 PM
Hey guys I recently came up on some Keyframes, and I would like to know how well do they slide?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Avon on September 14, 2016, 09:51:36 PM
Hey guys I recently came up on some Keyframes, and I would like to know how well do they slide?

really hard to slide them if at all. Your not gonna be bombing a hill and just busting slides on these, no way. I can't ride any other wheel now though. I bought some formula fours because I missed powersliding a lot but couldn't stand the feel of them after being on keyframes for a year. Hated all the feedback from hard wheels, feet vibrating, loud, etc.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Paco Supreme on September 14, 2016, 10:15:38 PM
here's a set of sml. AG 53mm v cut next to some Spitfire F4 53mm conical full



I saw SML had these coming out, was really curious as to the shape, they're some new forumla for SMLor something if i remember right
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: danjtony on September 14, 2016, 10:17:58 PM
Hey guys I recently came up on some Keyframes, and I would like to know how well do they slide?

really hard to slide them if at all. Your not gonna be bombing a hill and just busting slides on these, no way. I can't ride any other wheel now though. I bought some formula fours because I missed powersliding a lot but couldn't stand the feel of them after being on keyframes for a year. Hated all the feedback from hard wheels, feet vibrating, loud, etc.

If you're looking for a softer, slideable wheel, I've been using Mini Logo 90a (56mm) on my cruiser for a while now. They roll down fucked up streets and sidewalks well enough and still offer some slide. Spitfire Soft D's might be worth checking out too.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: N.L. on September 15, 2016, 07:01:37 AM
you can get keyframes to slide. all wheels will slide with the right technique. eat some more cake and put a bit of weight into it.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on September 16, 2016, 02:46:53 PM
F4 classic shape is all you need. Any surface, they're fine, 99 or 101, the difference isn't that great. They do everything you need them to.
I like my wheels as hard as diamonds. I usually under rotate a lot of my tricks too, so the more a wheels slides for me the better haha.

That is why I have been riding STFs for years.


 As for the shape? V3s every time. Love a skinny wheel but prefer rounder wheels to squareish. V3s are everything I look for in a wheel.

Spitfire's classic shape is WAAAY to wide for my tastes.

Hard as diamonds? Ricta.

Classic spits are like tennis balls.

I have ridden skinny ass STFs for long and I can get these for pretty cheap but they are really wide? While I think that wider wheels look way cooler, what are the advantages for a wider wheel? Do they still slide as good? I don't want to pull the trigger on an impulse.


https://www.nhsfunfactory.com/item/22221719/ricta/52mm-pro-nrg-louie-lopez-81b-wheels (https://www.nhsfunfactory.com/item/22221719/ricta/52mm-pro-nrg-louie-lopez-81b-wheels)


edit: After a little research I just got them. Only $18.99 though so no harm done. Hell I might even ike them.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Noble Experiment on September 21, 2016, 08:35:59 AM
After skating a set of STFs for almost more than a year now, the bearing seats in a couple of the wheels are wearing out, so now the bearings don't stay put and they pop out super easily. If I take a wheel and smack it against my hand sideways the bearing easily will pop out into my hand, that's how bad it is.
I took em off my setup and set up some Pigs I had laying around that I've been saving for a while. Kinda wanted to ride the STFs out a bit longer and save the Pigs for later, but I wasn't expecting this bearing seat issue to happen.

So far I'm digging the Pigs a lot. First set I've had in years. They used to be my favorite wheels back in the day when they were more popular; these days they seem a bit more low key. They feel better than I remember them being too; not sure if they changed up their formula or what, but it almost feels like I'm riding a spit classic formula wheel. I'm diggin it.
(http://brandscycle.com/merchant/278/images/zoom/thecount54mm.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Esquivel on September 22, 2016, 03:18:06 AM
After skating a set of STFs for almost more than a year now, the bearing seats in a couple of the wheels are wearing out, so now the bearings don't stay put and they pop out super easily. If I take a wheel and smack it against my hand sideways the bearing easily will pop out into my hand, that's how bad it is.
I took em off my setup and set up some Pigs I had laying around that I've been saving for a while. Kinda wanted to ride the STFs out a bit longer and save the Pigs for later, but I wasn't expecting this bearing seat issue to happen.

So far I'm digging the Pigs a lot. First set I've had in years. They used to be my favorite wheels back in the day when they were more popular; these days they seem a bit more low key. They feel better than I remember them being too; not sure if they changed up their formula or what, but it almost feels like I'm riding a spit classic formula wheel. I'm diggin it.
(http://brandscycle.com/merchant/278/images/zoom/thecount54mm.jpg)

the reason i have quit using bones. happened to 3-4 different sets of mine and to the two sets my mate got but only after a few weeks in, not a full year.
someone also claimed i was an industry guy because i said these things haha
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Noble Experiment on September 22, 2016, 09:53:11 AM
Quote
the reason i have quit using bones. happened to 3-4 different sets of mine and to the two sets my mate got but only after a few weeks in, not a full year.
someone also claimed i was an industry guy because i said these things haha
I've actually had this happen back in 08 on a set of STF V2 53mms right off the bat, like a month in; not super bad like how it is now but still bad enough to be bothersome to me and effect my setup. Had to take em off. Had like 5-6 sets of STFs since then and never really encountered that problem again up until this recent set, but then again i usually only ride my wheels for six months or so before I get new ones, but with this set I wanted to run em until they were dust, so maybe it's a problem that happens with STFs when they start wearing down that's more common than I thought, but I just never noticed because I always end up switching em out or giving em away before it happens.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on September 22, 2016, 11:16:15 AM
I've been skating a set of the Ricta NRG park crushers that are 53mm and I can't find another set of them anywhere. So I've been thinking about getting a set of the regular Ricta NRG's that are 53mm. Does anyone happen to know how big of a difference there is in terms of the hardness between the two? I've also been contemplating Spitfire F4 101a's. I've skated F4 99a and I liked them but they were a little soft for my blood.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on September 22, 2016, 12:33:16 PM
F4 classic shape is all you need. Any surface, they're fine, 99 or 101, the difference isn't that great. They do everything you need them to.
I like my wheels as hard as diamonds. I usually under rotate a lot of my tricks too, so the more a wheels slides for me the better haha.

That is why I have been riding STFs for years.


 As for the shape? V3s every time. Love a skinny wheel but prefer rounder wheels to squareish. V3s are everything I look for in a wheel.

Spitfire's classic shape is WAAAY to wide for my tastes.

Hard as diamonds? Ricta.

Classic spits are like tennis balls.

I have ridden skinny ass STFs for long and I can get these for pretty cheap but they are really wide? While I think that wider wheels look way cooler, what are the advantages for a wider wheel? Do they still slide as good? I don't want to pull the trigger on an impulse.


https://www.nhsfunfactory.com/item/22221719/ricta/52mm-pro-nrg-louie-lopez-81b-wheels (https://www.nhsfunfactory.com/item/22221719/ricta/52mm-pro-nrg-louie-lopez-81b-wheels)


edit: After a little research I just got them. Only $18.99 though so no harm done. Hell I might even ike them.

OK so these Rictas are amazing.  They feel just as hard as my bones ( but feel less plasticky) and the surface area that you actually slide on seems only the tiniest bit wider than my bones even though the overall shape of the wheel is a lot more squared off then the bones. So I haven't really noticed a difference with the slide but I actually really like the conical-esc shape.   Plus these things feel fast as hell.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Main on September 22, 2016, 02:26:37 PM
No wheels need to exist besides Spitfire Formula 4's. All others are obsolete. If you're contemplating the 101a's go for it and you'll never skate another wheel. Even if you try out an OJ or Pig at 101a it's like skating a crappy set of Bones 99's or Spitfire Classics. No one else makes a formula better than the 4's.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on September 22, 2016, 07:27:28 PM
No wheels need to exist besides Spitfire Formula 4's. All others are obsolete. If you're contemplating the 101a's go for it and you'll never skate another wheel. Even if you try out an OJ or Pig at 101a it's like skating a crappy set of Bones 99's or Spitfire Classics. No one else makes a formula better than the 4's.

K, thanks.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on September 23, 2016, 06:26:28 PM

I have ridden skinny ass STFs for long and I can get these for pretty cheap but they are really wide? While I think that wider wheels look way cooler, what are the advantages for a wider wheel? Do they still slide as good? I don't want to pull the trigger on an impulse.


https://www.nhsfunfactory.com/item/22221719/ricta/52mm-pro-nrg-louie-lopez-81b-wheels (https://www.nhsfunfactory.com/item/22221719/ricta/52mm-pro-nrg-louie-lopez-81b-wheels)


edit: After a little research I just got them. Only $18.99 though so no harm done. Hell I might even ike them.

OK so these Rictas are amazing.  They feel just as hard as my bones ( but feel less plasticky) and the surface area that you actually slide on seems only the tiniest bit wider than my bones even though the overall shape of the wheel is a lot more squared off then the bones. So I haven't really noticed a difference with the slide but I actually really like the conical-esc shape.   Plus these things feel fast as hell.
[/quote

I told you! =D

I've been skating a set of the Ricta NRG park crushers that are 53mm and I can't find another set of them anywhere. So I've been thinking about getting a set of the regular Ricta NRG's that are 53mm. Does anyone happen to know how big of a difference there is in terms of the hardness between the two? I've also been contemplating Spitfire F4 101a's. I've skated F4 99a and I liked them but they were a little soft for my blood.

Crushers/naturals are the only 101

http://rictawheels.com/catalog (http://rictawheels.com/catalog)

The 99a wheels are crazy hard for a 99a, especially when you compare them to spits. Night and Day.

Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on September 23, 2016, 10:48:49 PM
I got a set of Ricta speed rings on the cheap, same NRG formula, they're super fast, grippy, and they BARK. I like them but they're so plasticy white, they look straight off of a toys r us complete.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on September 24, 2016, 04:18:03 AM


I told you! =D

And thank you for that. I can't remember the last time I was this happy with a set of wheels!

PS I thought all Rictas were 81B which is like 102A right? Well even if they are 99A they feel way harder than any other 99 wheel I've ever had.




I got a set of Ricta speed rings... they're so plasticy white, they look straight off of a toys r us complete.
Yeah they look un-naturally white but I kind of love it haha.


Edit: If you are curious about what I/Level 60 are talking about, Here are my NRG's before they were ever ridden.


(http://s16.postimg.org/5vmo11fg5/IMG_0839.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on September 24, 2016, 10:33:51 AM
They yellow up some, my nrgs look like old bones now, that off white dirty cream color.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Zimmer on September 26, 2016, 07:44:02 PM

I have ridden skinny ass STFs for long and I can get these for pretty cheap but they are really wide? While I think that wider wheels look way cooler, what are the advantages for a wider wheel? Do they still slide as good? I don't want to pull the trigger on an impulse.


https://www.nhsfunfactory.com/item/22221719/ricta/52mm-pro-nrg-louie-lopez-81b-wheels (https://www.nhsfunfactory.com/item/22221719/ricta/52mm-pro-nrg-louie-lopez-81b-wheels)


edit: After a little research I just got them. Only $18.99 though so no harm done. Hell I might even ike them.

OK so these Rictas are amazing.  They feel just as hard as my bones ( but feel less plasticky) and the surface area that you actually slide on seems only the tiniest bit wider than my bones even though the overall shape of the wheel is a lot more squared off then the bones. So I haven't really noticed a difference with the slide but I actually really like the conical-esc shape.   Plus these things feel fast as hell.
[/quote

I told you! =D

I've been skating a set of the Ricta NRG park crushers that are 53mm and I can't find another set of them anywhere. So I've been thinking about getting a set of the regular Ricta NRG's that are 53mm. Does anyone happen to know how big of a difference there is in terms of the hardness between the two? I've also been contemplating Spitfire F4 101a's. I've skated F4 99a and I liked them but they were a little soft for my blood.

Crushers/naturals are the only 101

http://rictawheels.com/catalog (http://rictawheels.com/catalog)

The 99a wheels are crazy hard for a 99a, especially when you compare them to spits. Night and Day.



F4's are probably the softest "101" out there, and 99's feel like what 98a or 97a should be!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on September 27, 2016, 12:09:13 AM

Crushers/naturals are the only 101

http://rictawheels.com/catalog (http://rictawheels.com/catalog)

The 99a wheels are crazy hard for a 99a, especially when you compare them to spits. Night and Day.


Thank you! I don't know why the naturals never caught my eye but the 101's are almost the same wheel I've been looking for it seems.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Phillip Flathead on October 09, 2016, 09:40:01 PM
Picked up a pair of 99a conical full f4's from my local shop today and holy hell they are a thousand times better than stfs
Somehow they have more grip and way less harsh feel than stfs while still being just as fast or faster and having a better slide. I know a million people have said it but they really do feel more like urethane than plastic. No flat spots even with long slides to a dead stop too. Unless these things disintegrate I'm never going back to stfs again
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on October 27, 2016, 03:18:15 AM
Everyone I really need your help, are ricta naturals any good since they're the NRG formula now and which hardness would be closest to a bones stf? Or which one is grippier 99 or 101 and that could be a rookie/kook question but in my opinion and experience formula fours feel more slippery than bones stf

I was riding formula fours for the last maybe year and a half or 2 years and a few months ago stepped back on stf's and idk they felt grippier and more street adapted in grip to slid ability

Formula fours feel like real urethane but at the same time they felt so slippery to me or too grippy(classics&radial are too slippery and conicals too grippy)

But yeah in general, which ricta natural 99 or 101 feels like an stf ? I ask because you guys bought me with that NRG formula actually being fast
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Turtle Boy on October 27, 2016, 07:07:17 AM
I see all you guys talking about 101A or 99 durometers, you guys realize there is nothing as a 101A? It's pure marketing and comparing a 99 from a brand to another 99 from another brand is comparing blackberries and raspberries, they are kinda close but not really.
The wheel game is fucked.
Stiffness, grippyness, weight, abrasion resistance differ from one brand to another even if they are both 99A. I'm almost positive that colored F4 must have slightly different physical properties than natural F4, due to the use of pigments.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on October 27, 2016, 04:21:08 PM
I see all you guys talking about 101A or 99 durometers, you guys realize there is nothing as a 101A? It's pure marketing.....
...The A scale does not go up to 101. But that doesn't mean a wheel isn't harder than 100A. They're just saying 101 because the A scale is what has been the standard and they don't feel like using the B scale.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on October 27, 2016, 05:41:55 PM
Ricta 99a (everything but naturals which are 101, and the one pro wheel at 98...talk about splitting hairs there) -  grippy and fast. Much faster than spits (any shape, any duro).

F4s feel great, like mentioned in another post, they feel like old school urethane, which is awesome but I find them slower (in parks) than say an STF or Ricta and just wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide. I've tried just about all shapes and duro combos except full conical 99a, which I assume to be akin to skating on apples, slow and mushy. The duros seem much too soft.

OJ insane-a-thane, shitty name/marketing be damned, are my new favorite wheel - just picked up a set of 101a hardlines (park shape, i.e. spit conical/SPF P5 shape/my fav shape). Been skating the ez-edge wheel, which is a traditional 'street' shape, e.g., spit classics, bones V1 - Fast, grippy, slide great and chirp nicely. I like them better than my 99a rictas as they are a lilttle less grippy. They feel great on both rough/smooth street and parks (much like STFs are the same way); they feel right in the middle of ricta and spits to me.

The insane-a-thane is a totally different formula than the slow ass regular OJ thane; night and day difference. I've seen more and more insane a thanes at my park which is usually indy/ace/bones/spit.

SPFs are fast and hard but too slick for me since I tend to go fast and slide out. Same with STFs

Autobahn - too grippy for me, tho the 100a formula is quite nice on a thin wheel

The comment about colored than is on point, any colored wheel I've ever skated has always felt different; in the case of colored STFs, they felt better.

They all flat spot, just figure out what you need: do you slide all your tricks that extra 45? Rerverts? Blunt slides? ledge shit? Get a slidey wheel...just drops and rails? Find a shape that locks in and feels good.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Main on October 27, 2016, 05:42:48 PM
I see all you guys talking about 101A or 99 durometers, you guys realize there is nothing as a 101A? It's pure marketing.....
...The A scale does not go up to 101. But that doesn't mean a wheel isn't harder than 100A. They're just saying 101 because the A scale is what has been the standard and they don't feel like using the B scale.

Exactly. Skate some 99a F4's for awhile and then throw on some 101a's and you'll feel a big difference.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on October 27, 2016, 06:02:25 PM
OJ insane-a-thane, shitty name/marketing be damned, are my new favorite wheel - just picked up a set of 101a hardlines (park shape, i.e. spit conical/SPF P5 shape/my fav shape). Been skating the ez-edge wheel, which is a traditional 'street' shape, e.g., spit classics, bones V1 - Fast, grippy, slide great and chirp nicely. I like them better than my 99a rictas as they are a lilttle less grippy. They feel great on both rough/smooth street and parks (much like STFs are the same way); they feel right in the middle of ricta and spits to me.

The insane-a-thane is a totally different formula than the slow ass regular OJ thane; night and day difference. I've seen more and more insane a thanes at my park which is usually indy/ace/bones/spit.

Autobahn - too grippy for me, tho the 100a formula is quite nice on a thin wheel

Autobahn Brezinski Union wheel is my current favorite. Nice thin shape and says it's the same 100 duro as they use on their other wheels but it doesn't feel like it to me. Slides are easier and they feel faster.

To the OJ point, couldn't agree more. The Insane-a-thane is all around superior to their original formula. I don't know why they just don't make all their wheels with the Insane formula bc it's not even close. I had some Dela's in original and they felt gummy.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on October 27, 2016, 06:12:01 PM
Ricta 99a (everything but naturals which are 101, and the one pro wheel at 98...talk about splitting hairs there) -� grippy and fast. Much faster than spits (any shape, any duro).

F4s feel great, like mentioned in another post, they feel like old school urethane, which is awesome but I find them slower (in parks) than say an STF or Ricta and just wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide. I've tried just about all shapes and duro combos except full conical 99a, which I assume to be akin to skating on apples, slow and mushy. The duros seem much too soft.

OJ insane-a-thane, shitty name/marketing be damned, are my new favorite wheel - just picked up a set of 101a hardlines (park shape, i.e. spit conical/SPF P5 shape/my fav shape). Been skating the ez-edge wheel, which is a traditional 'street' shape, e.g., spit classics, bones V1 - Fast, grippy, slide great and chirp nicely. I like them better than my 99a rictas as they are a lilttle less grippy. They feel great on both rough/smooth street and parks (much like STFs are the same way); they feel right in the middle of ricta and spits to me.

The insane-a-thane is a totally different formula than the slow ass regular OJ thane; night and day difference. I've seen more and more insane a thanes at my park which is usually indy/ace/bones/spit.

SPFs are fast and hard but too slick for me since I tend to go fast and slide out. Same with STFs

Autobahn - too grippy for me, tho the 100a formula is quite nice on a thin wheel

The comment about colored than is on point, any colored wheel I've ever skated has always felt different; in the case of colored STFs, they felt better.

They all flat spot, just figure out what you need: do you slide all your tricks that extra 45? Rerverts? Blunt slides? ledge shit? Get a slidey wheel...just drops and rails? Find a shape that locks in and feels good.

NOICE! I've got 99 radial slims sitting on ice and now your review of 99 F4s plus the bearing story the other day is getting me worried :o I'm sure they'll be fine!

PFC you want HARD street wheels? these should be your go to. At 37 years of age PFCs tend to rattle my teeth a bit too much but if Leo Valls has trouble flat spotting them then you know you're pretty much set! Shapes feel like classic spitty shapes, nothing too out there. Also won't turn that shitty yellow colour even after a year or two
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on October 27, 2016, 06:23:45 PM
I've never had bearing seat issues except for a bad pour on some satoris. Not sure what the spitfire bearing seat thing is - even looking at the diagram, I couldn't figure out what the issue was as it looked normal to me?

Spitfire F4s are awesome, just not hard enough for me, even the 101s.

Gummy is for sure the right word for the 'other OJ formula, Heritage...

I picked up a set of OJs,The Classy Smoke Delatorre Wheels, 53mm, Side Cut Profile (bad ass shape) and they were the slowest thing I've ridden, probably good for shitty streets tho, or ditches...SLOWEST urethane ever:

https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/skateboards-c7/skateboard-wheels-c8/oj-wheels-classy-smoke-delatorre-101a-skateboard-wheels-53mm-p24500 (https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/skateboards-c7/skateboard-wheels-c8/oj-wheels-classy-smoke-delatorre-101a-skateboard-wheels-53mm-p24500)

My guess is, NHS has a ton of poured wheels sitting around and screen them as they need them to use theme up. I'd imagine some duded like the slower thane, Rowely/Jesse ride that shit.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: N.L. on October 27, 2016, 09:25:41 PM

 except full conical 99a, which I assume to be akin to skating on apples, slow and mushy. The duros seem much too soft



Funny you should mention that. I'm on some worn down F4 99a 56mm Conical Fulls right now and I can't get over how fast they feel. Skated Burnside the other day and had more speed than I knew what to do with...

Its going to take one hell of a wheel to get me off F4s. Personal fav shapes are Classics and Radials. Love both the 99a and 101as but find the 99a a bit more versatile for my tastes....
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jake From State Farm on October 27, 2016, 09:56:04 PM

 except full conical 99a, which I assume to be akin to skating on apples, slow and mushy. The duros seem much too soft



Funny you should mention that. I'm on some worn down F4 99a 56mm Conical Fulls right now and I can't get over how fast they feel. Skated Burnside the other day and had more speed than I knew what to do with...

Its going to take one hell of a wheel to get me off F4s. Personal fav shapes are Classics and Radials. Love both the 99a and 101as but find the 99a a bit more versatile for my tastes....

Same. I skate slappy curbs and smooth parks and these things are still going after what I think to be a few years. They're a Lance Mountain wheel from a while ago. Really fast, durable wheels.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on October 28, 2016, 11:52:58 AM
I like my wheels as hard as they make them. I'm going with these next.

https://goo.gl/photos/UMGFGQLQu8RYzBhN6 (https://goo.gl/photos/UMGFGQLQu8RYzBhN6)

For some fucking reason I can't embed images anymore...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Zimmer on October 28, 2016, 08:05:31 PM
I like my wheels as hard as they make them. I'm going with these next.

https://goo.gl/photos/UMGFGQLQu8RYzBhN6 (https://goo.gl/photos/UMGFGQLQu8RYzBhN6)

For some fucking reason I can't embed images anymore...

Yup, those rictas should suit you just fine!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Main on October 28, 2016, 08:08:51 PM
Ricta "Rocks" Formula
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on October 29, 2016, 12:14:46 PM
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r197/gheepup/junk/rocks/alvarocks1.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Main on October 29, 2016, 12:54:19 PM
Well I'll be a shit covered dick...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: NowhereInLife on October 29, 2016, 01:20:46 PM
For me it's a process of trying all kinds of wheels then going back to STFs (V5).  They're simply the fastest on asphalt and actual streets and I cruise around a lot.  I did pick up some ricta natural 101's because of this thread and a good memory from 15 years ago regarding some rictas.  The sheer whiteness triggered an ocd so on a whim i threw them in some hot black coffee for like 15 minutes.  5 probably would have sufficed.  They look a bit like new F4s and smell great.  But it'll be a minute as i just set up some new bones.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Main on October 29, 2016, 01:43:16 PM
I definitely know what you mean about wheels smelling good. That's actually the most important factor for me. Some shops use air fresheners and it gives the wheels a natural scent of the room. Some other skate shops are old and musty so I take my new wheels home and give them a nice spritz of lavender. Nice calming effect when I pick up my board and it wafts into my nostrils.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: danjtony on October 29, 2016, 08:42:23 PM
I been digging the insane-a-thanes a lot. They remind me of spit classics--with more of a squeeky/grippy slide to them. They white as fuck too.

Been on em for about two months now. No issues with flat-spotting or bearing seats. Just kind of bummed that one of the wheels got a huge chip like the third time I skated em.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on October 29, 2016, 09:56:17 PM
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r197/gheepup/junk/rocks/alvarocks1.jpg)

We used to change them to fucks.....
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on October 29, 2016, 10:43:43 PM
For me it's a process of trying all kinds of wheels then going back to STFs (V5).  They're simply the fastest on asphalt and actual streets and I cruise around a lot.  I did pick up some ricta natural 101's because of this thread and a good memory from 15 years ago regarding some rictas.  The sheer whiteness triggered an ocd so on a whim i threw them in some hot black coffee for like 15 minutes.  5 probably would have sufficed.  They look a bit like new F4s and smell great.  But it'll be a minute as i just set up some new bones.

oooo i cant wait to hear your feedabck man, cause i also just slapped on some stf v5s and i love bones stf for everything they are but i love spit classics too and wanna see which one suits better for me but have never had the guts to try other wheels like ricta, i got a set of ojś from a friend in a classic shape and 99a  but they werent much but a slower more durable spit classic basically. i love spit classics cause they rebound/bounce/are soft on impact and how grippy they are but stf are just like, street wheels on crack. grippy but slidy but not too slidy
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: 20matar on October 30, 2016, 01:33:39 PM
What do you guys have to say about Spitfire F1s? Are they really good, just OK, or somewhere in between? Better than Bones STF? I could get a set of them for an acceptable price...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on October 30, 2016, 02:08:36 PM
What do you guys have to say about Spitfire F1s? Are they really good, just OK, or somewhere in between? Better than Bones STF? I could get a set of them for an acceptable price...

They've got to be pretty old, so idk man.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jordick on October 30, 2016, 02:34:01 PM
What do you guys have to say about Spitfire F1s? Are they really good, just OK, or somewhere in between? Better than Bones STF? I could get a set of them for an acceptable price...
I'd say they're in between good and ok. Really don't like bones, but those would hold up better than the f1's. I'd still go with the f1's.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: 20matar on October 30, 2016, 03:13:58 PM
Blergh, lost the ones I really wanted... 53mm. There's a 52mm set, but I'm guessing that I should just pass. Not because of a single milimeter, but because I'll try to get family to bring me some of the good stuff from the US next year. I'd rather save up and make a nice purchase. Like a set of Formula Fours!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on October 30, 2016, 09:57:57 PM
What do you guys have to say about Spitfire F1s? Are they really good, just OK, or somewhere in between? Better than Bones STF? I could get a set of them for an acceptable price...

Honestly I think F1s are just classic Thane with a marketing. They feel identical.
 
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on October 31, 2016, 01:07:59 AM
What do you guys have to say about Spitfire F1s? Are they really good, just OK, or somewhere in between? Better than Bones STF? I could get a set of them for an acceptable price...

Honestly I think F1s are just classic Thane with a marketing. They feel identical.
 

sorry but i would have to disagree, F1 are hard, like hard with rattling when you hit rough streets and theres no absorbing the rebound just taking it.

classics are responsive and grippy and take a moment to slide but that softer street wheel feel is nice, the rough streets are somewhat absorbed but in the end formula fours and stfs just handle it all best
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Esmith5488 on November 02, 2016, 01:34:49 PM
was talking about ricta today and i brought up the fact that B.A rode for them and my friend didnt believe me. 
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: chillclinton87 on November 03, 2016, 09:04:08 AM
was talking about ricta today and i brought up the fact that B.A rode for them and my friend didnt believe me. 

wow i did not remember that  :o

but didn't heath and BA ride for monster trucks too?

this rather be in the "forgotten sponsors" thread
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Upgrayedd on November 10, 2016, 05:58:29 AM
Just got some of the 54mm Schmitty Ojs wheels. I think they're 87a. Nothing fancy, it's a good soft wheel if you're not into the long shape like the OJ hot juice. 
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: TwisT on November 10, 2016, 07:13:18 AM
Just went back to my second pair Ricta Speed Rings after messing around with some bones SPF for while.

They are noticeably faster than any other wheel I've ridden. I still have the same indy black bearings and the difference is crazy. They feel harder than other wheels, almost plastic like, but that could be because they are still newish. They have a strong smack sound when you hit the ground, almost like they don't absorb anything. They are super slick, so if your hop in a bowl or park, you're gonna have to remember to compensate in those corners. If you like you slide you're in luck.

I'm riding 53s. they are slightly slimmer than other bones, spit, pig and OJ. Autobahn makes the slimmest I've seen in person recently.

if you want the fastest wheel, Ricta's are great.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: bbk on November 10, 2016, 01:26:17 PM
Anyone know what's up with Ricta changing from 81b to 98-99a?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on November 10, 2016, 02:11:42 PM
Anyone know what's up with Ricta changing from 81b to 98-99a?
Not sure but my guess is marketing
Everyone uses the a system and b isn't as easy to translate because, people see a smaller number and misinterpret them as soft wheels
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: GinosGroceries on November 10, 2016, 11:47:14 PM
Are there any tablet shaped wheels out now other than the Bones V2?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Phillip Flathead on November 12, 2016, 08:14:01 AM
Are there any tablet shaped wheels out now other than the Bones V2?
Spitfire makes f4 99 and 101 in a radial slum that is pretty similar
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on November 12, 2016, 12:40:34 PM
Are there any tablet shaped wheels out now other than the Bones V2?

BMCSteve hooked me up with a set of Ricta Westgate NRG about a year ago and they were great. They are about as close to that V2 tablet shape as you'll find. I might actually look at another set of them at some point. Really nice wheels.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: GinosGroceries on November 12, 2016, 03:06:47 PM
Are there any tablet shaped wheels out now other than the Bones V2?

BMCSteve hooked me up with a set of Ricta Westgate NRG about a year ago and they were great. They are about as close to that V2 tablet shape as you'll find. I might actually look at another set of them at some point. Really nice wheels.
Thank you!
Just looked up some pics and that's pretty much exactly what I'm looking for.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on November 21, 2016, 02:25:54 AM
I'm trying to get some new wheels and need help pals

Which wheels feel close to bones stf or are grippy but slidy too

Ricta
Oj insane a thane
Autobahn
Sml

I love my stf's but I wanna try something new but don't wanna risk wasting my hard earned American dollars on a crappy wheel and so far I'm kinda wondering why did I even list the oj cause it seems the reviews on them aren't all good

I'm kinda thinking sml but ricta or maybe auto banh sound promising

Especially the rictas with that NRG formula

But really i want something grippy, main focus on grippy but still has some slidability

I did formula fours for a while, like 6 sets but after stepping back on bones I noticed formula fours no matter the shape or durometer they're kinda slippery, too slippery for my preference

I tried spit classics too and even they are kinda slick
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Rick Sanchez on November 22, 2016, 06:39:22 AM
I just can't imagine not skating formula fours at this point. Every other wheel I've tried has been way worse in comparison, OJ'S especially. The 99du conical full shape are the grippiest set I've had yet had generous slide when needed
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Main on November 22, 2016, 04:57:17 PM
Spit classics and Bones 100's mine as well be the same wheel, same with any basic wheel from any company. Not till you get into better quality ones like STF, SPF, or F4's where you will notice any difference. But like dude said above, F4's have dominated the market for a good reason, because they really are the best. I tried those Insane-a-thanes and they gargled balls. As any OJ wheel does. The wheel is named OJ for fuck sake lol. If you're an all terrain skater, or really any type of skater, F4's are the best.... period. If you only skate parks, SPFs are a solid option too, but they're still Bones and are plasticky.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on November 22, 2016, 08:01:36 PM
Aha okay I guess oj are off the list, I'm deciding ricta maybe

Idk formula fours in my opinion are becoming over rated like indy's

Yeah they're good for hardcore skating because they're kinda hard but feel like real urethane and slide easy butttttt...

It's all truly preference, I like bones stf better after all these formula fours cause I like and need something grippier but with some slide and the stf definitely deliver, I can make a hard turn and  my trucks are medium and I don't have to worry about sliding out

I tried the full conical and they didn't take the rebound rolling over cracks well cause the riding surface edges are straight and sharp rather than rounded like regular street shape so I instantly didn't like them and they gripped too much that my slides needed a little effort for formula fours

Bones have made wheels for years so I feel that grippy yet still somewhat easy to slide stf formula is the deal, when I stepped back on a set I remembered why I rode a set for like a year and a half and loved them
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on November 23, 2016, 12:15:09 AM
OJ Insane a thane. Love them. Wish they were a tad bit thinner but fuck it. Skated both ez edge and hardline and prefer the hardline shape as it's close to bones STF V5/SPF P5 shape.

I find F4s slow in PARKS, 99 or 101, doesn't matter - 99a Rictas are faster than F4s. Yes, F4s feel like 'classic' urethane, i.e. gummy. Not a bad thing, especially on street; regular 101 OJs feel like spit 99s to me (NOT insane a thane formula).



Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on November 23, 2016, 11:22:03 PM
SPF is hard and sticky......
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on November 24, 2016, 10:00:45 AM
Rob - I am partial to Autobahn and I've tried everything. Grip to slide is about 60/40 without feeling slow or gummy. I don't know what shape you prefer but Autobahn has a lot to choose from. I flip back and forth between the 52 slim shape and 52 Torus shape.

OJ Insane a Thane is also a good choice. I bought those Rojo 52 on an impulse an they were great. Was surprised.

Wayward makes great stuff too but they're a little more expensive.

SML has been hit and miss for me.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: danjtony on November 24, 2016, 08:50:08 PM
I just can't imagine not skating formula fours at this point. Every other wheel I've tried has been way worse in comparison, OJ'S especially. The 99du conical full shape are the grippiest set I've had yet had generous slide when needed

Are the conical full noticeably grippier than the f4 classics? I've been riding a set(99a) on and off and they tend to slip out on tranny or even tight carves on smooth sidewalks. I would like a little squeekier slide too. I've tried OJ Insane-a-thane and some SPFs recently, but I like the f4 better as an all around wheel (shit feels good on rougher spots). 
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: N.L. on November 24, 2016, 09:41:06 PM
I just can't imagine not skating formula fours at this point. Every other wheel I've tried has been way worse in comparison, OJ'S especially. The 99du conical full shape are the grippiest set I've had yet had generous slide when needed

Are the conical full noticeably grippier than the f4 classics? I've been riding a set(99a) on and off and they tend to slip out on tranny or even tight carves on smooth sidewalks. I would like a little squeekier slide too. I've tried OJ Insane-a-thane and some SPFs recently, but I like the f4 better as an all around wheel (shit feels good on rougher spots). 

Conical Fulls feel more secure navigating smooth transitional curves, for sure.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on November 25, 2016, 08:55:59 PM
Rob - I am partial to Autobahn and I've tried everything. Grip to slide is about 60/40 without feeling slow or gummy. I don't know what shape you prefer but Autobahn has a lot to choose from. I flip back and forth between the 52 slim shape and 52 Torus shape.

OJ Insane a Thane is also a good choice. I bought those Rojo 52 on an impulse an they were great. Was surprised.

Wayward makes great stuff too but they're a little more expensive.

SML has been hit and miss for me.

aha dang, i guess ill buy a set of autobanh since theyre cheap to try.

really oj insane a thane are legit? how close to stf would they be in grip and slide though?

ive been thinking sml since james craig says most of the formula are like stf except the i think austin gillete formula thats more like a spitfire classic, ive stepped on some sml before and they were alright. felt proper. like a louder grippier stf.

thankyou so much for the reply everyone, especially you heritage
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on November 26, 2016, 11:48:26 AM
Rob - no problem at all my man. What size do you skate? I can send you a set of 52 to try. I may even have 53 laying around.  Just hit me with a PM if you want a set without laying out any cash.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on November 26, 2016, 05:09:49 PM
Rob - I am partial to Autobahn and I've tried everything. Grip to slide is about 60/40 without feeling slow or gummy. I don't know what shape you prefer but Autobahn has a lot to choose from. I flip back and forth between the 52 slim shape and 52 Torus shape.

OJ Insane a Thane is also a good choice. I bought those Rojo 52 on an impulse an they were great. Was surprised.

Wayward makes great stuff too but they're a little more expensive.

SML has been hit and miss for me.

aha dang, i guess ill buy a set of autobanh since theyre cheap to try.

really oj insane a thane are legit? how close to stf would they be in grip and slide though?

ive been thinking sml since james craig says most of the formula are like stf except the i think austin gillete formula thats more like a spitfire classic, ive stepped on some sml before and they were alright. felt proper. like a louder grippier stf.

thankyou so much for the reply everyone, especially you heritage

I wanted to like my .sml wheels as I am partial to cored wheels, they were just too grippy for me (slim shape).

OJ insanes are legit once you get used to them. Fast, hard, loud, grippy AND slidey, they're just a bit chalky at first. I'd say they are a tad grippier than STFs and by proxy not as slidey/slippery.

I've sets of all sorts of shit around, AB/spit/bones/ricta/oj and rotate them in and out weekly depending on park or street and what I feel like trying and where. Everytime I setup STFs I cannot fathom why people skate them other than them being really slippery and slidey for ledge stuff as they feel slow compared to everything else I have.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: yourfuckingdad on November 26, 2016, 10:24:50 PM
pro / cons of the round wheels vs the straight cut ones?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on November 27, 2016, 04:10:23 AM
Rob - no problem at all my man. What size do you skate? I can send you a set of 52 to try. I may even have 53 laying around.  Just hit me with a PM if you want a set without laying out any cash.

Ohhhhh definitely, thank you so much my dude. Super grateful :D  ;D

Pm'ing now
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on November 29, 2016, 02:30:50 AM
I sent a pm but idk if you got it yet
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Andmoreagain on November 29, 2016, 07:19:36 AM


Looks like Santa Cruz stopped making the 54mm Slime Balls, which was my fav wheel. Anyone got recommendations for 97a wheels in the 54-57mm range? Preferably bright green cus green wheels are faster....
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on November 29, 2016, 09:41:05 AM


Looks like Santa Cruz stopped making the 54mm Slime Balls, which was my fav wheel. Anyone got recommendations for 97a wheels in the 54-57mm range? Preferably bright green cus green wheels are faster....

How about the new OJ Elite Mini Combos? Saw them on Social Media recently, not sure if the shape is the same and only 95a...not exact but close!

Plenty of the purple and or green 97a creature wheels out there still.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: calvinsdream on November 29, 2016, 01:50:32 PM
I just can't imagine not skating formula fours at this point. Every other wheel I've tried has been way worse in comparison, OJ'S especially. The 99du conical full shape are the grippiest set I've had yet had generous slide when needed

Are the conical full noticeably grippier than the f4 classics? I've been riding a set(99a) on and off and they tend to slip out on tranny or even tight carves on smooth sidewalks. I would like a little squeekier slide too. I've tried OJ Insane-a-thane and some SPFs recently, but I like the f4 better as an all around wheel (shit feels good on rougher spots). 

Yes, although I don't know if I would say "grippier" - they're just more stable, especially on transition. I was riding fulls for so long that classics feel like stilts on tranny - like, I grip the same, it just takes very little effort to move the wheel out of place.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on November 29, 2016, 02:27:33 PM
The magic of surface area!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Roisto on November 29, 2016, 08:08:21 PM
I'll just leave this here:
http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae140.cfm (http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae140.cfm)

Quote
Although a larger area of contact between two surfaces would create a larger source of frictional forces, it also reduces the pressure between the two surfaces for a given force holding them together. Since pressure equals force divided by the area of contact, it works out that the increase in friction generating area is exactly offset by the reduction in pressure; the resulting frictional forces, then, are dependent only on the frictional coefficient of the materials and the FORCE holding them together.

If you were to increase the force as you increased the area to keep PRESSURE the same, then increasing the area WOULD increase the frictional force between the two surfaces.

 :-X
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Turtle Boy on November 30, 2016, 07:54:26 AM
I'll just leave this here:
http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae140.cfm (http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae140.cfm)

Quote
Although a larger area of contact between two surfaces would create a larger source of frictional forces, it also reduces the pressure between the two surfaces for a given force holding them together. Since pressure equals force divided by the area of contact, it works out that the increase in friction generating area is exactly offset by the reduction in pressure; the resulting frictional forces, then, are dependent only on the frictional coefficient of the materials and the FORCE holding them together.

If you were to increase the force as you increased the area to keep PRESSURE the same, then increasing the area WOULD increase the frictional force between the two surfaces.

 :-X
Couldn't the perception of higher "grippyness" or friction in wider wheels comes from the fact that a wider wheel is generally heavier (which increases the initial force?) than a slimmer wheel (lighter -> less force?).
My physics class are like then year behind me, but shouldn't the added weight of the wider wheel have some impact on the friction force?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Roisto on November 30, 2016, 08:29:56 AM
I'll just leave this here:
http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae140.cfm (http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae140.cfm)

Quote
Although a larger area of contact between two surfaces would create a larger source of frictional forces, it also reduces the pressure between the two surfaces for a given force holding them together. Since pressure equals force divided by the area of contact, it works out that the increase in friction generating area is exactly offset by the reduction in pressure; the resulting frictional forces, then, are dependent only on the frictional coefficient of the materials and the FORCE holding them together.

If you were to increase the force as you increased the area to keep PRESSURE the same, then increasing the area WOULD increase the frictional force between the two surfaces.

 :-X
Couldn't the perception of higher "grippyness" or friction in wider wheels comes from the fact that a wider wheel is generally heavier (which increases the initial force?) than a slimmer wheel (lighter -> less force?).
My physics class are like then year behind me, but shouldn't the added weight of the wider wheel have some impact on the friction force?

Well, the weight difference is very small, when you take into account all the weight of the skateboard and the rider on top of it.

Just weighed some 54 mm cruiser wheels, other conical, other classic shape. Weight difference was 10 grams per wheel (71g and 61g). My setup as a whole is around 2400 grams, so the added weight from a conical shaped wheel for me would be around 1.7% and that's only taking into account the weight of the setup, not your weight at all. So for example for myself, with powerslides on flat, the weight difference with the conical wheels would be about 0,043% if i count that i weigh 90 kg with my skate gear on, which in reality is a bit of a low estimate right now sadly.

But even if you have all light gear and weigh much less yourself, the difference is really fucking small. I'd argue it's absolutely negligible. I see the wheel shape (in non sharp edged wheels) physically affecting locking into grinds more than anything else. Mentally though, the effect can be huge and that is like 95% of skating anyway.  :)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on November 30, 2016, 10:17:33 AM
Rob - I am partial to Autobahn and I've tried everything. Grip to slide is about 60/40 without feeling slow or gummy. I don't know what shape you prefer but Autobahn has a lot to choose from. I flip back and forth between the 52 slim shape and 52 Torus shape.

OJ Insane a Thane is also a good choice. I bought those Rojo 52 on an impulse an they were great. Was surprised.

Wayward makes great stuff too but they're a little more expensive.

SML has been hit and miss for me.

aha dang, i guess ill buy a set of autobanh since theyre cheap to try.

really oj insane a thane are legit? how close to stf would they be in grip and slide though?

ive been thinking sml since james craig says most of the formula are like stf except the i think austin gillete formula thats more like a spitfire classic, ive stepped on some sml before and they were alright. felt proper. like a louder grippier stf.

thankyou so much for the reply everyone, especially you heritage

I wanted to like my .sml wheels as I am partial to cored wheels, they were just too grippy for me (slim shape).

OJ insanes are legit once you get used to them. Fast, hard, loud, grippy AND slidey, they're just a bit chalky at first. I'd say they are a tad grippier than STFs and by proxy not as slidey/slippery.

I've sets of all sorts of shit around, AB/spit/bones/ricta/oj and rotate them in and out weekly depending on park or street and what I feel like trying and where. Everytime I setup STFs I cannot fathom why people skate them other than them being really slippery and slidey for ledge stuff as they feel slow compared to everything else I have.

Went from F4 Classic 52mm 99a to OJ Insane 54mm 101a and the slide is super easy at first and once you wear them down it becomes difficult to slide because they grip a bit. Grip definitely kicks in maybe .5mm down the wheel or something
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: N.L. on November 30, 2016, 12:28:13 PM
George Powell had a convincing argument about how wider wheels can actually be more slippery. It think he was arguing that they hold their grip a bit longer but once they start sliding its less controlled... too much science for me... I like Classics and Radials.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Zimmer on November 30, 2016, 08:39:03 PM
I keep it pretty simple, If I wanna slide and be all squirrley, I'll ride classics. If I wanna plow through stuff, I'll ride conical fulls.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Esquivel on December 01, 2016, 03:37:59 AM
I understand this is a discussion about wheel grip but since people are talking about overall influence of a wider wheel i would like to mention rolling friction affecting speed and how  this would vary from wheel to wheel (different widths = different rolling friction = different speed). Also how wheel width could not only affect speed but also the whole inertia of a skateboard, especially when the board is flippin
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: clamy on December 01, 2016, 04:13:41 AM
I just put some formula four classic slims on, but I'm already itching to get back on radial slims as I felt a lot more confident on those. I feel like I lose control a lot easier on the classic slims. I can feel it (or so my mind is telling me I should feel it) on hills and bluntslides.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on December 05, 2016, 07:06:03 PM
hey guys im back, soooooo i got hooked up a brand new set of ojś and was really psyched.

here are my initial thoughts on OJ insane a thanes hardline 101:

theyre damp, like urethane-y real skate wheels feeling so kinda like formula fours and kinda not like what you guys think of bones/being plastic but at the same time theyre hard. like they feel soft on the surface but once you roll you can tell theyre sturdy and hard to take the beating of todays skate needs/powerslides/wallrides/terrain but to really kinda break it down, theyre the feeling between a bones stf and formula four. they roll and feel good like a soft urethane street wheel but at the same time you can tell theyre hard.

con though that sadly hold any ojś back harshly, theyre slow. idk what it is but i had a set of ojś original 99a and they were amazing, i love how they gave me such nice street wheel grippiness so i was super confident on not sliding out landing anything and having total control but like i said, SLOW like annoys you after a long cruise slow. bones stf are the fastest i felt so far, in my opinion faster than formula fours cause the bones are made from urethane that suppose to handle streets in the tech way, while formula fours just feel like theyre made to plow through terrain and give you ultimate slide and control like your some hesh skater beating the streets up

i still like the ojś and will keep riding them cause theyre still new and i like how they feel like a ole classic street wheel but with a little oomph in the formula to keep up with this generation of powersliders and all terrain rippers. i also love the shape because theyre like a bones v5 but smoother and more rounded.

i got these

(http://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=OJJIHWH-WH-1.jpg&nw=435)

i also just got a used but still good set of ricta NRGś so ill most likely be back to tell you guys how those are, i really want and will see if this fastest urethane thing is gimmick or truth ;D
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: N.L. on December 05, 2016, 07:16:55 PM
bones stf are the fastest i felt so far, in my opinion faster than formula fours cause the bones are made from urethane that suppose to handle streets in the tech way, while formula fours just feel like theyre made to plow through terrain and give you ultimate slide and control like your some hesh skater beating the streets up


i like that description.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on December 05, 2016, 07:32:38 PM
bones stf are the fastest i felt so far, in my opinion faster than formula fours cause the bones are made from urethane that suppose to handle streets in the tech way, while formula fours just feel like theyre made to plow through terrain and give you ultimate slide and control like your some hesh skater beating the streets up


i like that description.

haha thank you sir ;)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: ducky darnsworth on December 05, 2016, 08:24:58 PM
well i just bought some ricta sparx wheels, never tried ricta so this should be interesting
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on December 06, 2016, 09:19:15 PM
im back again already and all i have to say about RICTA NRG 81b wheels,

theyre not all that really, theyre super hard, like truly really 81b hard. they arent that fast. they roll an okay distance but overall.

theyre hard and dont slide that easy. they screech loud though when you slide.

so ima stick to

1.Bones Stf
2.OJ insane a thane
3.Formula four radials
4.i dont know yet but the search for the next best wheel continues, kinda interested in spitfire soft Dś

kinda wanna see what sml is like but for now ima ride these Ojś cause i like how they feel and roll

not quality like bones stf but close enough that i can handle.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on December 07, 2016, 04:22:01 AM
Also I just realized something, idk if it was mentioned but anyone know anything about who makes deck brand wheels?

Like who makes the wheels for baker boys/baker and deathwish wheels ? And who makes the wheels for crailtap/girl and chocolate wheels?

Cause I remember I loved how smooth and grippy these old set of girl wheels I had were but they were almost too grippy and the shape was kinda cool but too thin
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Rick Sanchez on December 07, 2016, 04:31:06 AM
anyone got any feedback on wayward wheels?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Zimmer on December 11, 2016, 08:55:05 AM
I've heard good things about those WW wheels, I wish I didn't have so many sets of F4's to get through  ???

Also, is it just me.. or do smaller wheels feel softer than bigger wheels in the same duro? Like a slim 54mm 99 compared to a big wide 58mm 99
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: art hellman on December 11, 2016, 09:57:16 AM
anyone got any feedback on wayward wheels?

they are rad.  Im usually skating Spit F4 99a classics... and the two sets of Wayward Wheels 52mm Puig wheels ive skated feel almost exactly the same (slide, hardness).  I really didn't notice a difference at all.  WW are "whiter". 
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on December 21, 2016, 08:53:04 PM
anyone got any feedback on wayward wheels?

they are rad.  Im usually skating Spit F4 99a classics... and the two sets of Wayward Wheels 52mm Puig wheels ive skated feel almost exactly the same (slide, hardness).  I really didn't notice a difference at all.  WW are "whiter".  

They look 'glassy' to me, somewhat opaque, but really bright, - the shapes are really rad, was looking at some today, I might jet back tomorrow and nab a set of 52 slims, but the funnels look sick too; fulls are pretty big and the round cut are pretty standard.

The Funnels shape is a deeper cut Spit Conical, the round cut is a classic and the thin is essentially the classic thing (did a side by side today).

Going to order a set from Wayward as the shop didn't have the round cut in 101.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: DaveFuck on December 28, 2016, 03:23:34 PM
How do sml's compare to f4's?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: VCR on December 28, 2016, 04:38:03 PM
It depends on what formula you get.

The harder one slides like crazy and are perfect for smooth ground or indoor parks.

The softer ones are great for rougher streets and provide more grip.

Softer ones are closer to formula fours but don't hold up as well
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on December 31, 2016, 12:05:00 PM
How do sml's compare to f4's?

I rode a set of the V cuts/slims or whatever, they felt much too grippy to me and slow :\ Some members have stated the same and that the wider wheels ride much different? One set was enough for me to skip them for good.

Just set up a set of 52 wayward slims, they a bit slimmer than 52 f4 classics. Nice shape. Bearings slid in far to easy, which makes me worried they'll feel slow/sluggish, like regular OJs (NOT the Insane-A-Thane).

Raining today/all week so not sure when I'll get to skate them.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on January 06, 2017, 11:48:00 AM
What's up with the shitty cores on the spitfire 80hd chargers making them spin like shit? These things are terrible.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Julz on January 06, 2017, 11:54:39 AM
To sum up this thread; F4 is the superior product. Everything else is subpar.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on January 06, 2017, 10:53:05 PM
I had those 99's and they were sick...another friend of mine had them and flat spotted them super fast...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on January 06, 2017, 11:51:10 PM
To sum up this thread; F4 is the superior product. Everything else is subpar.

kook me, i would have to disagree. ive had 4 sets of F4ś, the first set i did love(they were classics 99 and rode them for a year) so good i got another set and got some radial 99 and they were alright, alot smoother cause the shape and surface area, got over them after a few months and got some conical 101 and didnt really like them besides the crazy slide feel and gave them up, got another set of 99 classics cause maybe thats why i was losing it for formula fours and still wasnt feeling that best wheels in the game feel anymore, switched around with pigs, ojs, spit classics and bones stf. none were as good as my bones, they are everything to my preference. theyre grippier than f4 99ś and even spit classics but they still had this good slide feeling. it was odd cause the regular classics formula felt slicker than i remembered

bones stf all the way, formula fours are too slippery for my taste. i would slide out even on the slightest bad foot placement on a land and it pissed me off, it was like okay i get it they slide but i need some gription
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: ducky darnsworth on January 07, 2017, 12:03:13 AM
i bought some ricta sparx, and i thought they were a street wheel, but i guess not because for whatever reason the bearing holder part gots squished out, so now i can fully tighten down the wheel on the trucks, and move the wheel around, i not sure if its because their shitty or if it was a defect, but it kinda sucks since i liked the shape.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on January 07, 2017, 12:11:51 AM
dang ducky i feels for you, what a waste.

oh yeah i also tried ricta nrgś, they were not as good as they claim. they were hard and just hard. something of like a generic hard wheel feel. thats my opinion/review of ricta. yeah they rolled somewhat fast and long like they claim but they just felt awful.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: ducky darnsworth on January 07, 2017, 12:17:35 AM
yeah, i was going to try the naturals but now im second guessing it, i'll probably go back to spitfire (even though i hate the color) or try something else, also i have a set of OJ'S insane o thanes, i can't fit my bones swiss six in them for my life, but bronson g3's fit perfectly. NHS is on some stupid shit
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on January 07, 2017, 12:26:19 AM
haha i would second guess forsure too if this is the way one set of rictas is, especially if you got the ones that costs more its like how do the cheaper ones feel

dang that sucks man, what a jip. i know what your saying though with nhs, ive had an issue their products before. nhs is kinda odd, they barely have good sales or prices on their own site, you would think the direct manufacturer would have the better deals on their own products but i guess not.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Randozzi on January 07, 2017, 12:32:14 AM
Prize Fighter Cutlery

Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Krooked antihero on January 07, 2017, 01:53:33 AM
To sum up this thread; F4 is the superior product. Everything else is subpar.
bones stf all the way, formula fours are too slippery for my taste. i would slide out even on the slightest bad foot placement on a land and it pissed me off, it was like okay i get it they slide but i need some gription

I tried to like F4's too, tried different duros and shapes but always ended up back skating my stf's. Spitfire 99's felt too grippy and with 101's i always ended up slipping on smooth concrete,super scary on transition.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Opoin on January 07, 2017, 08:15:37 AM
Prize Fighter Cutlery



This.

Been riding mine for about 3 weeks now and they're some of the best wheels I've had.  They're hard and break out in a slide when you need them to, but grip much better than STFs imo.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on January 07, 2017, 03:04:54 PM
To sum up this thread; F4 is the superior product. Everything else is subpar.

I guess you could look at it that way if you like your opinion spoon fed to you without trying things for yourself. I haven't skated Spitfire wheels wheels since 2005 and I'm doing just fine.

Autobahn for the last decade and when I run out of my AB reserves I will skate something else that's not Spitfire.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Tracer on January 07, 2017, 04:20:51 PM
Ghetto Child anyone?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: calvinsdream on January 07, 2017, 05:08:13 PM
Ghetto Child anyone?

Noooooooope.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on January 07, 2017, 08:34:59 PM
What's up with the shitty cores on the spitfire 80hd chargers making them spin like shit? These things are terrible.

What's the Slap consensus on the cruiser wheel?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tangar on January 07, 2017, 09:45:16 PM
What's up with the shitty cores on the spitfire 80hd chargers making them spin like shit? These things are terrible.

What's the Slap consensus on the cruiser wheel?

OJs, Juice or Keyframes, some people swear by clouds here but I love my OJs
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Roisto on January 08, 2017, 12:51:31 AM
What's up with the shitty cores on the spitfire 80hd chargers making them spin like shit? These things are terrible.

What's the Slap consensus on the cruiser wheel?

OJs, Juice or Keyframes, some people swear by clouds here but I love my OJs

I've got a set of Keyframes and think they're pretty great. Too grippy though, but that's how it goes with cruiser wheels. Got a set of the Spitfire 80 HDs waiting. I did test them briefly last summer but couldn't come to any conclusion wether I liked them or not. Clouds for some reason are not easy to come by in Europe, so I haven't tested those. Would like to test all duros, especially the new 92A.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on January 08, 2017, 01:55:44 AM
Just found out that the urethane company that manufactures Pusher wheels basically copied the formula from accell wheels.
I haven't really liked any wheels since accell went under and I really dug pushers when I got a set years ago and been skating them ever since.
I really suggest them especially if you like PFC or bones Stf
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: NJFly318 on January 08, 2017, 07:23:36 AM
What's up with the shitty cores on the spitfire 80hd chargers making them spin like shit? These things are terrible.

What's the Slap consensus on the cruiser wheel?


Got some Keyframe 87A's they are smooth and fast on rough ground, don't slide though. they are good for cruising, but super slow in the parks.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Julz on January 08, 2017, 07:58:18 AM
To sum up this thread; F4 is the superior product. Everything else is subpar.

I guess you could look at it that way if you like your opinion spoon fed to you without trying things for yourself. I haven't skated Spitfire wheels wheels since 2005 and I'm doing just fine.

Autobahn for the last decade and when I run out of my AB reserves I will skate something else that's not Spitfire.

My post was mostly pointing out that the majority of the posters on this thread are stating that they prefer F4s over everything else.

From my perspective, I've skated a bunch of wheels in the last 5 years (oj, bones, autobanh, creative urethane) and F4 are the best IMO. Before that, I was riding mostly STF and hated my sets of F1 and SFW. So, I didn't always have a positive opinion on spitfire's products.

At the end of the day, you'll be fine skating with whatever wheels you have. I just bought a set of shop wheels, because I'm on a budget, and they're good. Nothing to complain. That being said, I'd rather skate a set of F4.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Zimmer on January 08, 2017, 11:17:36 AM
I would guess that all of us have made do with shitty wheels at some point. Picking and choosing wheels is a luxury as far as I'm concerned. I might not be rich, but being able to always have my wheels on point is a small victory.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on January 08, 2017, 12:41:54 PM
To sum up this thread; F4 is the superior product. Everything else is subpar.

I guess you could look at it that way if you like your opinion spoon fed to you without trying things for yourself. I haven't skated Spitfire wheels wheels since 2005 and I'm doing just fine.

Autobahn for the last decade and when I run out of my AB reserves I will skate something else that's not Spitfire.

My post was mostly pointing out that the majority of the posters on this thread are stating that they prefer F4s over everything else.

From my perspective, I've skated a bunch of wheels in the last 5 years (oj, bones, autobanh, creative urethane) and F4 are the best IMO. Before that, I was riding mostly STF and hated my sets of F1 and SFW. So, I didn't always have a positive opinion on spitfire's products.

At the end of the day, you'll be fine skating with whatever wheels you have. I just bought a set of shop wheels, because I'm on a budget, and they're good. Nothing to complain. That being said, I'd rather skate a set of F4.

Totally agree Julz. My post was more a generality, not directed at you personally. I've seen people write things off, without giving them a fair shake, and eat up the marketing that they 'need' a particular product. Skateboarding is such a personal experience and not one thing works for everyone. Spitfire make good wheels, but they've also killed the marketing game.

@Moe - Accel! HELL YEAH! There's a name I haven't heard in years. Gnar'd.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Zimmer on January 08, 2017, 01:05:18 PM
What's the word on ghetto child? I'd buy some for nostalgia's sake.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tangar on January 08, 2017, 08:02:49 PM
I remember Accels being very similar to Darkstars back in the day. Really hard, super white almost plasticky looking, and pretty skinny as far as shapes were.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on January 08, 2017, 08:28:53 PM
Nobody skated those lame ass Mike V wheels, stop frontin.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: pointandclick on January 08, 2017, 08:35:40 PM
(https://scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/15801849_1838103709798245_8741534267395276800_n.jpg)
anyone see this crupie multicultural wheel nonsense? i guess people leaving gold and or not on a wheel company found this strange program to ride for.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: BMCsteve on January 08, 2017, 08:39:30 PM
I've been skating the regular (non-slim) radial shape for the last couple weeks and I think they're my new favorite wheel.  Everything I love about the slims but with a little more grip. 

They've been great in a slippery park, on the street, carving in bowls and hitting curbs.  I can't find a single thing to complain about
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tangar on January 08, 2017, 09:58:40 PM
Nobody skated those lame ass Mike V wheels, stop frontin.
Stefan Attardo and Stacy Lowry did
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: DaveFuck on January 08, 2017, 10:26:38 PM
Just bought the OG Wide version of these https://www.smlwheels.com/shop/grocery-bag-53mm-ag-formula (https://www.smlwheels.com/shop/grocery-bag-53mm-ag-formula)

Will update after i skate them for a bit
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on January 09, 2017, 01:53:44 AM
Been skating 53mm Ricta NRGs for about a month now. Quite good, I suspect the word on the street that they're a bit faster may be true, might just be placebo though. Slide really nice on ledges, better than 101 f4s imo, similar to stfs without being too slippery like stfs or 101 f4s on most street surfaces.

On certain types of ground they grip a little bit too much for powerslides and slide a bit funny, not sure why this is. They're perfect for most surfaces though.

Managed to flatspot it slightly on a noseblunt on a ledge, not a dealbreaker but can definitely feel it a little on skatepark ground, how do you get rid of minor flatspots like this? Hasn't gone away by itself just yet.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Opoin on January 09, 2017, 08:32:09 AM
Been skating 53mm Ricta NRGs for about a month now. Quite good, I suspect the word on the street that they're a bit faster may be true, might just be placebo though. Slide really nice on ledges, better than 101 f4s imo, similar to stfs without being too slippery like stfs or 101 f4s on most street surfaces.

On certain types of ground they grip a little bit too much for powerslides and slide a bit funny, not sure why this is. They're perfect for most surfaces though.

Managed to flatspot it slightly on a noseblunt on a ledge, not a dealbreaker but can definitely feel it a little on skatepark ground, how do you get rid of minor flatspots like this? Hasn't gone away by itself just yet.

You have to do subsequent noseblunts of exactly the same length around the entire circumference of the wheel that isn't flatspotted.

Either that or you just ride it out of the wheel if it isn't that big.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Esquivel on January 09, 2017, 09:36:08 AM
powerslide the fuck out of it
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on January 09, 2017, 11:18:08 AM
Nobody skated those lame ass Mike V wheels, stop frontin.

I think I bought the Cleveland joints after seeing a Svitak part.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on January 09, 2017, 12:00:44 PM
I would guess that all of us have made do with shitty wheels at some point. Picking and choosing wheels is a luxury as far as I'm concerned. I might not be rich, but being able to always have my wheels on point is a small victory.

You kinda just adapt. I have the 101a Oj Insane formula and came from 99a Classic f4s. At first they slid like crazy and I loved it, then I started realizing they felt slow. They didn't feel as fast and they started requiring a little extra for slides.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: bluntstofakie on January 09, 2017, 12:41:37 PM
What's up with the shitty cores on the spitfire 80hd chargers making them spin like shit? These things are terrible.

What's the Slap consensus on the cruiser wheel?

OJs, Juice or Keyframes, some people swear by clouds here but I love my OJs
I got some 57mm 78a clouds to replace my worn down keyframes, and I'm not that siked on them. They're really fast on smooth ground, but I rarely encounter smooth ground when I'm just cruising.  I feel like the keyframes were faster on the rough stuff. I'm curious about those powell g slides though.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on January 09, 2017, 03:55:11 PM

I got some 57mm 78a clouds to replace my worn down keyframes, and I'm not that siked on them. They're really fast on smooth ground, but I rarely encounter smooth ground when I'm just cruising.  I feel like the keyframes were faster on the rough stuff. I'm curious about those powell g slides though.
I'm seriously contemplating trying the G slides as my next cruiser wheel. I love my key frames but they're getting pretty worn down.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rathernotwalk on January 09, 2017, 06:00:16 PM
Anyone try Rain Skates or Alta
Looking for something off the beaten path at this point...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on January 09, 2017, 09:55:12 PM
Anyone try Rain Skates or Alta
Looking for something off the beaten path at this point...

I've ridden rainskates a while back, great wheels, Creative Urethane (if I recall), shapes are lacking.

If Alta are good enough for Barros, they're good enough for anyone reading this ;)

Really depends on what you are skating.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on January 09, 2017, 11:16:02 PM
Nobody skated those lame ass Mike V wheels, stop frontin.

I think I bought the Cleveland joints after seeing a Svitak part.
I always skated the rotten apples ones maybe a few Bartie models as well
if you flatspotted them they would send you a set for free if you sent the flat ones back
I only ever flatspotted a couple of sets. They were great wheels.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rathernotwalk on January 10, 2017, 03:55:08 PM
Anyone try Rain Skates or Alta
Looking for something off the beaten path at this point...
Anyone try Rain Skates or Alta
Looking for something off the beaten path at this point...

I've ridden rainskates a while back, great wheels, Creative Urethane (if I recall), shapes are lacking.

If Alta are good enough for Barros, they're good enough for anyone reading this ;)

Really depends on what you are skating.

I wish the Alta's were a bit bigger but yeah pretty sure Barros could have any wheel he wanted and probably still kill it with wooden ones

I mostly just skate transition but this will be for my smaller setup that I would be more likely to actually take to the streets with
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: N.L. on January 11, 2017, 03:57:12 PM
What's up with the shitty cores on the spitfire 80hd chargers making them spin like shit? These things are terrible.

What's the Slap consensus on the cruiser wheel?

OJs, Juice or Keyframes, some people swear by clouds here but I love my OJs

86a clouds.... Fast. durable. Perfect compromise between a spongey cruiser wheel and regular street wheel. Just wish they'd do them in colours...
I got some 57mm 78a clouds to replace my worn down keyframes, and I'm not that siked on them. They're really fast on smooth ground, but I rarely encounter smooth ground when I'm just cruising.  I feel like the keyframes were faster on the rough stuff. I'm curious about those powell g slides though.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on January 11, 2017, 05:22:54 PM
Finally got to roll around on the Waywards today, I was right. Soft feeling 101s, like OJs (regular) and F4s, they slide nice, good chirp but in park they were slow, on regular street (that's rough as fuck on OJ insane, SPF, STF and 99a Rictas) these things felt great; I'd skate them if I was looking for a wheel to handle spotty terrain, even over F4s.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Zimmer on January 11, 2017, 06:20:08 PM
Finally got to roll around on the Waywards today, I was right. Soft feeling 101s, like OJs (regular) and F4s, they slide nice, good chirp but in park they were slow, on regular street (that's rough as fuck on OJ insane, SPF, STF and 99a Rictas) these things felt great; I'd skate them if I was looking for a wheel to handle spotty terrain, even over F4s.

Awesome 8)

Put wayward on the list.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Noble Experiment on January 12, 2017, 06:54:28 AM
Finally got around to setting up some all black STFs that I've had for a while now that I've just been keeping on standby.
After skating on some badly flatspotted pigs for the longest time, I completely forgot what it feels like to actually go fast with only a few pushes. Feels good.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Krooked antihero on January 16, 2017, 01:55:26 AM
Finally got around to setting up some all black STFs that I've had for a while now that I've just been keeping on standby.
After skating on some badly flatspotted pigs for the longest time, I completely forgot what it feels like to actually go fast with only a few pushes. Feels good.

I prefer colored stf's over white ones, i think they are just a little bit faster and slide better.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on January 16, 2017, 02:25:22 AM
Quote from: Krooked antihero  link=topic=82118.msg2597156#msg2597156 date=1484560526
Finally got around to setting up some all black STFs that I've had for a while now that I've just been keeping on standby.
After skating on some badly flatspotted pigs for the longest time, I completely forgot what it feels like to actually go fast with only a few pushes. Feels good.

I prefer colored stf's over white ones, i think they are just a little bit faster and slide better.

Really?? I keep hearing stuff about colored stf's but I don't wanna believe it cause I'm on some classic white bones stf and they're everything I like, fast, smooth, grippy, slides. But now you guys got me thinking to invest in some colored ones...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on January 16, 2017, 08:26:34 AM
Quote from: Krooked antihero  link=topic=82118.msg2597156#msg2597156 date=1484560526
Finally got around to setting up some all black STFs that I've had for a while now that I've just been keeping on standby.
After skating on some badly flatspotted pigs for the longest time, I completely forgot what it feels like to actually go fast with only a few pushes. Feels good.

I prefer colored stf's over white ones, i think they are just a little bit faster and slide better.

I've always preferred colored STFs/SPFs, they just feel better to me (and a few people I know that have skated them).
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on January 16, 2017, 04:17:11 PM
Has anyone tried these?
http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=72685 (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=72685)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: ducky darnsworth on January 16, 2017, 06:11:26 PM
should i try these autobahns?
http://www.tactics.com/autobahn/evolution-ab-s-skateboard-wheels/white-101a (http://www.tactics.com/autobahn/evolution-ab-s-skateboard-wheels/white-101a)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on January 16, 2017, 06:48:32 PM
should i try these autobahns?
http://www.tactics.com/autobahn/evolution-ab-s-skateboard-wheels/white-101a (http://www.tactics.com/autobahn/evolution-ab-s-skateboard-wheels/white-101a)

Ducky - these are AB price point wheels but truthfully I think they slide a little bit better than some of their premium stuff. That can be good or bad, more sliding out from tricks and a little more unpredictable at times. They are also loud as hell and on the streets they will rattle your teeth out.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: ducky darnsworth on January 16, 2017, 08:04:19 PM
should i try these autobahns?
http://www.tactics.com/autobahn/evolution-ab-s-skateboard-wheels/white-101a (http://www.tactics.com/autobahn/evolution-ab-s-skateboard-wheels/white-101a)

Ducky - these are AB price point wheels but truthfully I think they slide a little bit better than some of their premium stuff. That can be good or bad, more sliding out from tricks and a little more unpredictable at times. They are also loud as hell and on the streets they will rattle your teeth out.
Ok that doesn't sound appealing, but still on the subject of autobahn, would the Torus Ultra 83b wheels be any better?
http://www.skatewarehouse.com/Autobahn_Torus_Ultra_83b_Wheels/descpage-ABT83WH.html (http://www.skatewarehouse.com/Autobahn_Torus_Ultra_83b_Wheels/descpage-ABT83WH.html)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: danjtony on January 16, 2017, 08:25:58 PM
Has anyone tried these?
http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=72685 (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=72685)

Ha, I wanted to ask about these too (was just thinking about it this morning). I'm interested in the 101's though. Love the retro shape, but I'm worried that reg OJ formula will suck (only tried the insane-a-thanes, but I like those a lot).

I think 95a is kind of hit or miss on weather or not they'll be fast. Those would be sick for skating a slippery indoor park though.

Did Santa Cruz stop making 97a Slime Balls in smaller sizes? I can only find the 60mm+ ones now. If I could find those in like 54-56, would be perfect.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on January 16, 2017, 10:23:28 PM
Has anyone tried these?
http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=72685 (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=72685)

Ha, I wanted to ask about these too (was just thinking about it this morning). I'm interested in the 101's though. Love the retro shape, but I'm worried that reg OJ formula will suck (only tried the insane-a-thanes, but I like those a lot).

I think 95a is kind of hit or miss on weather or not they'll be fast. Those would be sick for skating a slippery indoor park though.

Did Santa Cruz stop making 97a Slime Balls in smaller sizes? I can only find the 60mm+ ones now. If I could find those in like 54-56, would be perfect.

I commented on those in FB when they announced them, NHS responded and they are regular old slo oj thane, not insane a thane.

No more Slimeballs in smaller sizes either.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Elderly Gentleman on January 17, 2017, 06:50:42 AM
I grabbed a set of 53mm Spitfire Hypno swirl 99a wheels (blue).  I had been riding 55mm wheels and wanted to try to size down a little.  I skate parks and mini ramps most of the time (41 year old and not that good).  Even though these are 99a, they don't have much grip.  I almost got a concussion at the park yesterday.  I slipped out making a turn to go down a flat ramp and slammed hard at the bottom.  My head bounced off the pavement (luckily the place requires helmets and I have a good one.)   It freaked the old man out who was monitoring the place (YMCA park) It was a gnarly looking slam I'm sure, but I was okay and got right up.  Luckily it just rang my bell.  I kept skating but after a couple more slip outs, I took those wheels off and went back to my old ones.  They felt good rolling, but they're just too slick!  I think these Hypno's are original formula, not formula 4's.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: shit_for_brains on January 17, 2017, 07:04:37 AM
Who else is riding wayward? I'm on the 52 Bledsoe slims and.... I can't tell the difference from my last set of F4 52mm slims.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on January 17, 2017, 09:11:53 AM
Has anyone tried these?
http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=72685 (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=72685)

Ha, I wanted to ask about these too (was just thinking about it this morning). I'm interested in the 101's though. Love the retro shape, but I'm worried that reg OJ formula will suck (only tried the insane-a-thanes, but I like those a lot).

I think 95a is kind of hit or miss on weather or not they'll be fast. Those would be sick for skating a slippery indoor park though.

Did Santa Cruz stop making 97a Slime Balls in smaller sizes? I can only find the 60mm+ ones now. If I could find those in like 54-56, would be perfect.

I commented on those in FB when they announced them; they regular old slo oj than, not insane a thane.

No more Slimeballs in smaller sizes either.

Damn, i was looking for a cruiser that slid so I didn't have to stick my foot out to stop or slow down.
Wasn't totally stoked on the Insane-a-thane formula either.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on January 17, 2017, 10:29:00 AM
Who else is riding wayward? I'm on the 52 Bledsoe slims and.... I can't tell the difference from my last set of F4 52mm slims.

I tried that exact set for a few days and they do in fact feel like 99a f4s too me, that is to say, slow in parks but fantastic on rough streets, really great shape and easy slides too.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Abyss1 on January 17, 2017, 10:52:28 AM
Alright guys ive switched over from street skating to hill bombing.  After 3 weeks of bombing and little power sliding (40 miles total) my spitfire classics are toasted ...They started conning after a week and a half. 

What you hill bombers using to keep from buying wheels every month
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Zimmer on January 17, 2017, 11:15:30 AM
Alright guys ive switched over from street skating to hill bombing.  After 3 weeks of bombing and little power sliding (40 miles total) my spitfire classics are toasted ...They started conning after a week and a half. 

What you hill bombers using to keep from buying wheels every month

Just get F4's, the old classics don't hold up well. The 101's are faster and wear better, but they're sketchy in some situations.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: art hellman on January 17, 2017, 11:49:26 AM
Who else is riding wayward? I'm on the 52 Bledsoe slims and.... I can't tell the difference from my last set of F4 52mm slims.

I tried that exact set for a few days and they do in fact feel like 99a f4s too me, that is to say, slow in parks but fantastic on rough streets, really great shape and easy slides too.

yep, wayward skate very very very similar to formula 4 ... they a just a tad wider than the standard F4 classic
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on January 18, 2017, 10:00:41 AM
Has anyone tried these?
http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=72685 (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=72685)

Ha, I wanted to ask about these too (was just thinking about it this morning). I'm interested in the 101's though. Love the retro shape, but I'm worried that reg OJ formula will suck (only tried the insane-a-thanes, but I like those a lot).

I think 95a is kind of hit or miss on weather or not they'll be fast. Those would be sick for skating a slippery indoor park though.

Did Santa Cruz stop making 97a Slime Balls in smaller sizes? I can only find the 60mm+ ones now. If I could find those in like 54-56, would be perfect.

I commented on those in FB when they announced them; they regular old slo oj than, not insane a thane.

No more Slimeballs in smaller sizes either.

Damn, i was looking for a cruiser that slid so I didn't have to stick my foot out to stop or slow down.
Wasn't totally stoked on the Insane-a-thane formula either.

If you find a cruiser wheel that slides, let me know - still eyeing those g-slides...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on January 18, 2017, 10:45:51 AM
Has anyone tried these?
http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=72685 (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=72685)

Ha, I wanted to ask about these too (was just thinking about it this morning). I'm interested in the 101's though. Love the retro shape, but I'm worried that reg OJ formula will suck (only tried the insane-a-thanes, but I like those a lot).

I think 95a is kind of hit or miss on weather or not they'll be fast. Those would be sick for skating a slippery indoor park though.

Did Santa Cruz stop making 97a Slime Balls in smaller sizes? I can only find the 60mm+ ones now. If I could find those in like 54-56, would be perfect.

I commented on those in FB when they announced them; they regular old slo oj than, not insane a thane.

No more Slimeballs in smaller sizes either.

Damn, i was looking for a cruiser that slid so I didn't have to stick my foot out to stop or slow down.
Wasn't totally stoked on the Insane-a-thane formula either.

If you find a cruiser wheel that slides, let me know - still eyeing those g-slides...

60 or 64mm 87a Powell Bomber 3s
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: h00man on January 18, 2017, 01:32:55 PM
Who else is riding wayward? I'm on the 52 Bledsoe slims and.... I can't tell the difference from my last set of F4 52mm slims.

I tried that exact set for a few days and they do in fact feel like 99a f4s too me, that is to say, slow in parks but fantastic on rough streets, really great shape and easy slides too.

yep, wayward skate very very very similar to formula 4 ... they a just a tad wider than the standard F4 classic

Nice to know! Gonna grab a set online soon. Who knows if my locals will be getting WW any time soon....
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on January 18, 2017, 04:32:35 PM
Has anyone tried these?
http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=72685 (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=72685)

Ha, I wanted to ask about these too (was just thinking about it this morning). I'm interested in the 101's though. Love the retro shape, but I'm worried that reg OJ formula will suck (only tried the insane-a-thanes, but I like those a lot).

I think 95a is kind of hit or miss on weather or not they'll be fast. Those would be sick for skating a slippery indoor park though.

Did Santa Cruz stop making 97a Slime Balls in smaller sizes? I can only find the 60mm+ ones now. If I could find those in like 54-56, would be perfect.

I commented on those in FB when they announced them; they regular old slo oj than, not insane a thane.

No more Slimeballs in smaller sizes either.

Damn, i was looking for a cruiser that slid so I didn't have to stick my foot out to stop or slow down.
Wasn't totally stoked on the Insane-a-thane formula either.

If you find a cruiser wheel that slides, let me know - still eyeing those g-slides...

60 or 64mm 87a Powell Bomber 3s

Damn man were hubbas actually any good? I remember wanting those Shake Junt swirls but never pulled the trigger.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on January 18, 2017, 10:38:43 PM
Has anyone tried these?
http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=72685 (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=72685)

Ha, I wanted to ask about these too (was just thinking about it this morning). I'm interested in the 101's though. Love the retro shape, but I'm worried that reg OJ formula will suck (only tried the insane-a-thanes, but I like those a lot).

I think 95a is kind of hit or miss on weather or not they'll be fast. Those would be sick for skating a slippery indoor park though.

Did Santa Cruz stop making 97a Slime Balls in smaller sizes? I can only find the 60mm+ ones now. If I could find those in like 54-56, would be perfect.

I commented on those in FB when they announced them; they regular old slo oj than, not insane a thane.

No more Slimeballs in smaller sizes either.

Damn, i was looking for a cruiser that slid so I didn't have to stick my foot out to stop or slow down.
Wasn't totally stoked on the Insane-a-thane formula either.

If you find a cruiser wheel that slides, let me know - still eyeing those g-slides...

60 or 64mm 87a Powell Bomber 3s

Damn man were hubbas actually any good? I remember wanting those Shake Junt swirls but never pulled the trigger.

Might end up picking up the G Slides to try them out.

As for Hubba, I got into skateboarding a little after they ended but they deserve to comeback...or at least make a calendar or anything with their models. You know what, f-it I'd cop the wheels and a tee (that just has their logo as an inside joke). I swear it on our lord and skate-vior Fred Gall.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: calvinsdream on January 19, 2017, 08:22:52 AM
I grabbed a set of 53mm Spitfire Hypno swirl 99a wheels (blue).  I had been riding 55mm wheels and wanted to try to size down a little.  I skate parks and mini ramps most of the time (41 year old and not that good).  Even though these are 99a, they don't have much grip.  I almost got a concussion at the park yesterday.  I slipped out making a turn to go down a flat ramp and slammed hard at the bottom.  My head bounced off the pavement (luckily the place requires helmets and I have a good one.)   It freaked the old man out who was monitoring the place (YMCA park) It was a gnarly looking slam I'm sure, but I was okay and got right up.  Luckily it just rang my bell.  I kept skating but after a couple more slip outs, I took those wheels off and went back to my old ones.  They felt good rolling, but they're just too slick!  I think these Hypno's are original formula, not formula 4's.

Hypno's are the branded knock offs that only zumiez seems to sell.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Elderly Gentleman on January 19, 2017, 09:04:47 AM
I grabbed a set of 53mm Spitfire Hypno swirl 99a wheels (blue).  I had been riding 55mm wheels and wanted to try to size down a little.  I skate parks and mini ramps most of the time (41 year old and not that good).  Even though these are 99a, they don't have much grip.  I almost got a concussion at the park yesterday.  I slipped out making a turn to go down a flat ramp and slammed hard at the bottom.  My head bounced off the pavement (luckily the place requires helmets and I have a good one.)   It freaked the old man out who was monitoring the place (YMCA park) It was a gnarly looking slam I'm sure, but I was okay and got right up.  Luckily it just rang my bell.  I kept skating but after a couple more slip outs, I took those wheels off and went back to my old ones.  They felt good rolling, but they're just too slick!  I think these Hypno's are original formula, not formula 4's.

Hypno's are the branded knock offs that only zumiez seems to sell.


Yep, that explains it then.  I jokingly put "I'll just use my Zumiez rewards card" as my signature, and I ended up getting a freakin' gift card for the place for Christmas.   I thought I'd give those a try since it wasn't costing me anything.  I liked the feel of the size the wheels were, but they're just too slick for where I skate. 
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: N.L. on January 19, 2017, 09:25:25 AM
Smaller wheels can seem like they have less grip sometimes (less surface area) and also wheels need to be broken in. I like to bomb some hills before I hit the park with my wheels. Freshies can feel a little unpredictable...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on January 19, 2017, 06:31:23 PM
Smaller wheels can seem like they have less grip sometimes (less surface area) and also wheels need to be broken in. I like to bomb some hills before I hit the park with my wheels. Freshies can feel a little unpredictable...

There was an article (can't find it) that has Brofessor Schmitt talking about how thinner wheels are just as grippy, if not more, to a point (my guess is at breakaway :P
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Zimmer on January 19, 2017, 06:50:36 PM
Smaller wheels can seem like they have less grip sometimes (less surface area) and also wheels need to be broken in. I like to bomb some hills before I hit the park with my wheels. Freshies can feel a little unpredictable...

There was an article (can't find it) that has Brofessor Schmitt talking about how thinner wheels are just as grippy, if not more, to a point (my guess is at breakaway :P

Yeah, there was something in one of these threads.. People were saying that width and duro # end up evening out where grip is concerned. But then people say that wider wheels stick more on slides.

Now we hear thinner wheels could be more grippy? I've always felt like wider wheels stay stuck to the ground better. I don't know what to think.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: N.L. on January 19, 2017, 07:14:30 PM
Smaller wheels can seem like they have less grip sometimes (less surface area) and also wheels need to be broken in. I like to bomb some hills before I hit the park with my wheels. Freshies can feel a little unpredictable...

There was an article (can't find it) that has Brofessor Schmitt talking about how thinner wheels are just as grippy, if not more, to a point (my guess is at breakaway :P

Yeah, there was something in one of these threads.. People were saying that width and duro # end up evening out where grip is concerned. But then people say that wider wheels stick more on slides.

Now we hear thinner wheels could be more grippy? I've always felt like wider wheels stay stuck to the ground better. I don't know what to think.

George Powell argues that thinner wheels can be grippier in that once wider wheels slide out its harder to bring them back under control. Or some shit like that... But all this must depend on the urethane formula also...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Roisto on January 19, 2017, 07:30:14 PM
Physics: surface area does not affect friction. Might seem counterintuitive at first but that's just the way it is.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Wonderful Whizzplank on January 20, 2017, 10:46:37 AM
Physics: surface area does not affect friction. Might seem counterintuitive at first but that's just the way it is.

Same weight acting on smaller surface area = more pressure, you can probably extrapolate this into deciphering how different widths suit different things, but it's late and I don't wanna think.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Alotoflizards on January 20, 2017, 12:32:58 PM
I've been skating the "Rollriguez" from Pusher wheels. I skate really rough gravel and concrete pretty often and these have held up very well for the few months I've had em. My next wheels are most likely going to be F4's. Been wondering what it's like to skate the conical ones...would they make certain trucks harder maybe? Either way, I adapt to whatever setup I'm skating.. for example my last pair of shoes was too big and I could barely do flip tricks, so I've been skating a lot more tranny
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: TwisT on January 22, 2017, 08:14:31 PM
I've been skating ricta speed rings for a while. I've had a few pairs and I really like them.
I'm interested in either some Autobahn's or some welcome orbs.

What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on January 22, 2017, 11:30:50 PM
do most of you guys who prefer formula fours skate parks more than street?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Deekay on January 23, 2017, 02:06:42 PM
do most of you guys who prefer formula fours skate parks more than street?

I kinda like the 101's best for both. 99's are good for the rougher streets but I just use 101's everywhere now.. I thought they'd be too slippery for indoor parks but they're fine even where it's too slippery to push properly, I don't know how they do it.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Firebert on January 23, 2017, 02:10:36 PM
do most of you guys who prefer formula fours skate parks more than street?
I use the 99A and skate parks almost exclusively
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on January 23, 2017, 08:23:28 PM
do most of you guys who prefer formula fours skate parks more than street?

I kinda like the 101's best for both. 99's are good for the rougher streets but I just use 101's everywhere now.. I thought they'd be too slippery for indoor parks but they're fine even where it's too slippery to push properly, I don't know how they do it.

do most of you guys who prefer formula fours skate parks more than street?
I use the 99A and skate parks almost exclusively

yeah i was wondering cause the thing is i basically skate street exclusively and its all pavement, asphault, sidewalks and such and i just notice bones stf feel much more smoothly than fours, i thought maybe everyone whos really digging fours even after giving stfs a try again only really prefer the fours overall because they do more park skating and very little cruising the rough streets/the fours just feel better in parks

i havent skated a park in months but idk, cant get fours feeling good ever since i noticed how nicely smooth and fast bones stf are on street. and ive tried all the mainstream stuff, almost all formula four shapes in 99a, the conical 101, ricta nrg pro wheels, gold, pig, spitfire classics, oj reg 99a, oj insnae a thane 101, and bones stf. i wanna try those cutlery wheels but hmmm....
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on January 23, 2017, 09:57:14 PM
do most of you guys who prefer formula fours skate parks more than street?
I skate as transportation when there isn't two feet of snow on the ground with 101 f4's and then when I actually skate it's mainly park. I preferred Ricta NRG's when skating on rough streets for sure.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: ChuckRamone on January 23, 2017, 11:25:14 PM
for street cruising, so far my favorites are Bones ATFs. I've tried G-slides and Clouds but both felt too chalky and heavy to me and did not make for a smooth enough ride on really rough spots. anyone who's familiar with the ATFs - what's another good wheel that rides like them?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on January 24, 2017, 01:48:39 AM
for street cruising, so far my favorites are Bones ATFs. I've tried G-slides and Clouds but both felt too chalky and heavy to me and did not make for a smooth enough ride on really rough spots. anyone who's familiar with the ATFs - what's another good wheel that rides like them?

aha i think nothing beats skateone/bones experience and history in skateboard wheels ingenuity, i tried spitfire 80hds, i have some random kryptonics cruiser wheels i found and nothing ive felt on any cruiser was as good as my stolen and lost bones atf, even when i rode them from 54 to 52/51 they were still fast and rolled far, the quality was always consistent, and i rode them in rain several times. oj III are nice but i felt they get slower and over time just start sucking when they shave down and the urethane gets stale.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on January 25, 2017, 12:12:13 AM
Got some Pusher 54mm conicals 99A and some of the Matt Rodriguez 80B Pusher models.
interested to try the softer formula conical shape, should help with the crusty spots.
Exited to try the Matt Rod's out when those are done.



Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: nigga_please on January 25, 2017, 05:09:45 PM
Just decided to try this new Crupie wheels and i'm fucking impressed. It's been 10 days it's better than the bones STF I had before.
For $28 I got a 52mm Tiago Lemos wheel and I highly recommend.

(http://www.crupie.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/tiago-lemos-crupie-wheels-600x600.jpg)

Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Alotoflizards on January 25, 2017, 05:58:44 PM
Got some Pusher 54mm conicals 99A and some of the Matt Rodriguez 80B Pusher models.
interested to try the softer formula conical shape, should help with the crusty spots.
Exited to try the Matt Rod's out when those are done.

Youre gonna love em they slide like crazy.. I was wondering if anybody has tried out satori wheels recently? I'm expecting a set of these tomorrow
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: ducky darnsworth on January 25, 2017, 07:10:07 PM
my stoner cousin larry gave me some satoris a year ago, they gripped pretty well, slide alright, i liked them
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Alotoflizards on January 25, 2017, 08:18:08 PM
my stoner cousin larry gave me some satoris a year ago, they gripped pretty well, slide alright, i liked them

Haha thank you
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on January 25, 2017, 10:54:19 PM
Just decided to try this new Crupie wheels and i'm fucking impressed. It's been 10 days it's better than the bones STF I had before.
For $28 I got a 52mm Tiago Lemos wheel and I highly recommend.

(http://www.crupie.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/tiago-lemos-crupie-wheels-600x600.jpg)



interesting...i am strongly considering giving them my monies...

damn you slap!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on January 26, 2017, 01:09:15 PM
Saw these on the Skatewarehouse site. Apparently Clouds in an ATV style?
(http://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=RICLBWH-WH-1.jpg&nw=435)
http://www.skatewarehouse.com/Ricta_Clouds_Black_92a_Wheels/descpage-RICLBWH.html (http://www.skatewarehouse.com/Ricta_Clouds_Black_92a_Wheels/descpage-RICLBWH.html)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Zimmer on February 10, 2017, 04:40:12 PM
Has anyone ended up liking STFs and F4s?

I ended up getting some 55mm V4's after I heard from three different people that they smooth out rough streets. All I've done is roll and pop around, but they seem really nice! :o They almost feel like a super hard cruiser wheel (if that makes sense), with a slide thats more "squawky" and takes a tiny bit more effort than a 101 F4.

I never thought I'd say this, but I'm a bones and spits guy. I'm anxious to give these a proper rundown.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on February 10, 2017, 07:46:41 PM
I just won those Ben raybourn v5s from the bones site giveaway, so we'll see. Hadn't had any for a long time, like 5 years or so, but I remember them rattling my teeth.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Zimmer on February 10, 2017, 07:54:33 PM
I just won those Ben raybourn v5s from the bones site giveaway, so we'll see. Hadn't had any for a long time, like 5 years or so, but I remember them rattling my teeth.

I have a little patch of sidewalk on the side of my house, and with the same deck and trucks the stf's feel kind of softer than 101's. I think it has to do with the rebound.

I'm gonna sound crazy, but you still feel the ground.. The vibrations are just "higher frequency". The STF's vibrate, and F4's rattle. Just my opinion!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Krooked antihero on February 11, 2017, 12:04:28 AM
Has anyone ended up liking STFs and F4s?

I ended up getting some 55mm V4's after I heard from three different people that they smooth out rough streets. All I've done is roll and pop around, but they seem really nice! :o They almost feel like a super hard cruiser wheel (if that makes sense), with a slide thats more "squawky" and takes a tiny bit more effort than a 101 F4.

I never thought I'd say this, but I'm a bones and spits guy. I'm anxious to give these a proper rundown.
Me. IMO those two are only proper wheels out there right now, i prefer F4's on street as they slide so easily, and stf's on tranny as i find f4's a bit unpredictable on concrete sometimes.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on February 11, 2017, 08:32:53 AM
I just won those Ben raybourn v5s from the bones site giveaway, so we'll see. Hadn't had any for a long time, like 5 years or so, but I remember them rattling my teeth.

I have a little patch of sidewalk on the side of my house, and with the same deck and trucks the stf's feel kind of softer than 101's. I think it has to do with the rebound.

I'm gonna sound crazy, but you still feel the ground.. The vibrations are just "higher frequency". The STF's vibrate, and F4's rattle. Just my opinion!

See! This is why I prefer bones stf over formula fours, they're like hard cruiser wheels! They push so fast and smooth but still have some slide so you don't get stuck

They feel so good on concrete

That rattle on f4's throws me off so hard and the slip outs cause they're such slidy wheels
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: NowhereInLife on February 11, 2017, 08:46:59 AM
Has anyone ended up liking STFs and F4s?

I ended up getting some 55mm V4's after I heard from three different people that they smooth out rough streets. All I've done is roll and pop around, but they seem really nice! :o They almost feel like a super hard cruiser wheel (if that makes sense), with a slide thats more "squawky" and takes a tiny bit more effort than a 101 F4.

I never thought I'd say this, but I'm a bones and spits guy. I'm anxious to give these a proper rundown.

Only if the F4s are wide like the like kwalks 54 conical fulls I'm on now.  Otherwise there is little else that is as glidey on city asphalt as stf.  The three sets of F4s I'd gotten before (classic, tablet, conical) were quickly switched back to stf as i'm not really tryin to push that much in my decrepitude.  I guess F4th time's the charm har
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Zimmer on February 11, 2017, 08:59:02 AM
I don't think I can choose one over the other, they both have their strong points. STFs absorb the ground, while F4s bounce over it!

F4's do seem like they're slower to push around, but at the same time, if I knew I was going to be bombing a lot of hills.. I'd want to be on F4's. Maybe because thats what I'm used to?

I actually still like the feel of rock hard 101s, sometimes you just need to ride rocks.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: thespacewolf on March 29, 2017, 04:54:28 PM
Just got into softer wheels after riding 99a spits for forever.
Went from Ricta Sparx Shockwaves 86a (too soft) to Ricta Clouds 92a (almost perfect)
The problem I have with the clouds is that they're too bouncy and still a tad bit grippy. Has anyone gotten the Spitfire Soft D's? Would going 92 on those be the exactly the same thing as the clouds or should I just go for the 95 Soft D's?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: theloniousmonk on March 30, 2017, 08:40:13 AM
Just got into softer wheels after riding 99a spits for forever.
Went from Ricta Sparx Shockwaves 86a (too soft) to Ricta Clouds 92a (almost perfect)
The problem I have with the clouds is that they're too bouncy and still a tad bit grippy. Has anyone gotten the Spitfire Soft D's? Would going 92 on those be the exactly the same thing as the clouds or should I just go for the 95 Soft D's?

Never had the spitfires, but have some 95a pig wheels that are fun. In the 90s it seems like there were more options in 95a. Rowley had a 95a ojs wheel a few years ago and baker had one too. If you get the spitfires, post them up here!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: 20matar on March 30, 2017, 10:48:25 AM
Just got into softer wheels after riding 99a spits for forever.
Went from Ricta Sparx Shockwaves 86a (too soft) to Ricta Clouds 92a (almost perfect)
The problem I have with the clouds is that they're too bouncy and still a tad bit grippy. Has anyone gotten the Spitfire Soft D's? Would going 92 on those be the exactly the same thing as the clouds or should I just go for the 95 Soft D's?

Ricta's, Reddit's number one wheels. Fuck Reddit, by the way.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: TwisT on March 30, 2017, 11:48:57 AM
Just got into softer wheels after riding 99a spits for forever.
Went from Ricta Sparx Shockwaves 86a (too soft) to Ricta Clouds 92a (almost perfect)
The problem I have with the clouds is that they're too bouncy and still a tad bit grippy. Has anyone gotten the Spitfire Soft D's? Would going 92 on those be the exactly the same thing as the clouds or should I just go for the 95 Soft D's?

Ricta's, Reddit's number one wheels. Fuck Reddit, by the way.

I was just on Reddit defending ricta a few weeks ago
Speed rings are great IMO
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on March 30, 2017, 12:37:08 PM
Just got into softer wheels after riding 99a spits for forever.
Went from Ricta Sparx Shockwaves 86a (too soft) to Ricta Clouds 92a (almost perfect)
The problem I have with the clouds is that they're too bouncy and still a tad bit grippy. Has anyone gotten the Spitfire Soft D's? Would going 92 on those be the exactly the same thing as the clouds or should I just go for the 95 Soft D's?

Ricta's, Reddit's number one wheels. Fuck Reddit, by the way.

I was just on Reddit defending ricta a few weeks ago
Speed rings are great IMO
Rictas are awesome wheels. People just talk shit about them for the sole reason of talking shit. I wish they still made 53mm park crushers.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: patrick c. on March 30, 2017, 12:39:27 PM
Just got into softer wheels after riding 99a spits for forever.
Went from Ricta Sparx Shockwaves 86a (too soft) to Ricta Clouds 92a (almost perfect)
The problem I have with the clouds is that they're too bouncy and still a tad bit grippy. Has anyone gotten the Spitfire Soft D's? Would going 92 on those be the exactly the same thing as the clouds or should I just go for the 95 Soft D's?
I've never had the Clouds but I've had a few sets of 92a Soft D's.  Based on what you said I think the 95 Soft D's would work better for you.  The 92a Spits powerslide fine but you need to give tail/bluntslides a little more effort if that makes sense.  I really like them(the 92 Spits) but I can only imagine they'd give you the same problems as the Clouds in regard to excess bounce/grip. 
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on March 30, 2017, 06:43:23 PM
Just got into softer wheels after riding 99a spits for forever.
Went from Ricta Sparx Shockwaves 86a (too soft) to Ricta Clouds 92a (almost perfect)
The problem I have with the clouds is that they're too bouncy and still a tad bit grippy. Has anyone gotten the Spitfire Soft D's? Would going 92 on those be the exactly the same thing as the clouds or should I just go for the 95 Soft D's?

Ricta's, Reddit's number one wheels. Fuck Reddit, by the way.

I was just on Reddit defending ricta a few weeks ago
Speed rings are great IMO
Rictas are awesome wheels. People just talk shit about them for the sole reason of talking shit. I wish they still made 53mm park crushers.

BMCSteve hooked me up with a set of Westgate NRG tablet shaped 52, and I love them. No bullshitting. When I run out of my Autobahn stash (which will be in about 12-15 years) I'm skating Ricta wheels.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on March 30, 2017, 07:34:04 PM
If they still made 53mm park crushers I would be skating those instead of radial slim F4s all day.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tangar on March 30, 2017, 10:05:36 PM
I skated some ricta NRGs a while back too and they skated fine. Felt just as good as F4s. Has anyone tried the new ghetto child wheels? I hear creative makes them but any comparison to F4s? Since that's mostly all I've skated recently.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on March 31, 2017, 01:51:44 AM
im gonna have to intervene and say everyone has their taste and i cant back rictas, tried a set of NRG sandovals and they were fast no doubt but hard as rocks, and not even slidy hard. just plain hard.

wheels i can back

#1 bones stf(good grip, slide, and fast. theyre like a cruiser street wheel)
#2 mini logo A cut/maybe even the c cut 101a wheels(theyre such a nice classic street wheel feel with such good grip and feel, better than spit classics)
#3 spitfire  F4 either radial or classics
#4 i wanna say girl/chocolate wheels but i gotta get another set again, i think they felt like the mini logo 101a

other wheels ive tried(gold, spit classic, pig, ricta nrg, bones 100, and im forgetting one...) have nothing on these, also the mini logo really arent the same formula as bones 100 with a different name.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Roisto on March 31, 2017, 06:12:13 AM
im gonna have to intervene and say everyone has their taste and i cant back rictas, tried a set of NRG sandovals and they were fast no doubt but hard as rocks, and not even slidy hard. just plain hard.

wheels i can back

#1 bones stf(good grip, slide, and fast. theyre like a cruiser street wheel)
#2 mini logo A cut/maybe even the c cut 101a wheels(theyre such a nice classic street wheel feel with such good grip and feel, better than spit classics)
#3 spitfire  F4 either radial or classics
#4 i wanna say girl/chocolate wheels but i gotta get another set again, i think they felt like the mini logo 101a

other wheels ive tried(gold, spit classic, pig, ricta nrg, bones 100, and im forgetting one...) have nothing on these, also the mini logo really arent the same formula as bones 100 with a different name.

Mini logos are grippy but then all of a sudden slip out without warning IMO. Formula Fours are way more predictable and easier to slide but still grippy enough. Perfect. Unless you're on rough terrain. Then you'll need something softer (which is also sadly grippier).
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on April 01, 2017, 12:41:40 AM
im gonna have to intervene and say everyone has their taste and i cant back rictas, tried a set of NRG sandovals and they were fast no doubt but hard as rocks, and not even slidy hard. just plain hard.

wheels i can back

#1 bones stf(good grip, slide, and fast. theyre like a cruiser street wheel)
#2 mini logo A cut/maybe even the c cut 101a wheels(theyre such a nice classic street wheel feel with such good grip and feel, better than spit classics)
#3 spitfire  F4 either radial or classics
#4 i wanna say girl/chocolate wheels but i gotta get another set again, i think they felt like the mini logo 101a

other wheels ive tried(gold, spit classic, pig, ricta nrg, bones 100, and im forgetting one...) have nothing on these, also the mini logo really arent the same formula as bones 100 with a different name.

Mini logos are grippy but then all of a sudden slip out without warning IMO. Formula Fours are way more predictable and easier to slide but still grippy enough. Perfect. Unless you're on rough terrain. Then you'll need something softer (which is also sadly grippier).

I barely skate parks and I'm 90% on the streets, spitfire formula four 99 or 101 aren't as forgiving on street and aren't as fast as bones stf. When you skate on formula fours for days and try stf it's such a crazy difference, I rode formula fours for like 2 years and I was dead set on them then wondered why i dropped stf and tried them again and noticed they feel way smoother and faster
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Roisto on April 01, 2017, 02:16:13 AM
im gonna have to intervene and say everyone has their taste and i cant back rictas, tried a set of NRG sandovals and they were fast no doubt but hard as rocks, and not even slidy hard. just plain hard.

wheels i can back

#1 bones stf(good grip, slide, and fast. theyre like a cruiser street wheel)
#2 mini logo A cut/maybe even the c cut 101a wheels(theyre such a nice classic street wheel feel with such good grip and feel, better than spit classics)
#3 spitfire  F4 either radial or classics
#4 i wanna say girl/chocolate wheels but i gotta get another set again, i think they felt like the mini logo 101a

other wheels ive tried(gold, spit classic, pig, ricta nrg, bones 100, and im forgetting one...) have nothing on these, also the mini logo really arent the same formula as bones 100 with a different name.

Mini logos are grippy but then all of a sudden slip out without warning IMO. Formula Fours are way more predictable and easier to slide but still grippy enough. Perfect. Unless you're on rough terrain. Then you'll need something softer (which is also sadly grippier).

I barely skate parks and I'm 90% on the streets, spitfire formula four 99 or 101 aren't as forgiving on street and aren't as fast as bones stf. When you skate on formula fours for days and try stf it's such a crazy difference, I rode formula fours for like 2 years and I was dead set on them then wondered why i dropped stf and tried them again and noticed they feel way smoother and faster

I've never skated Bones wheels. Something about the image just puts me off so I never tried them. Also streets here in Finland are mostly so crusty that you're not gonna have fun skating around with hard wheels. Even 54 mm 86A Keyframes feel too hard at some points. Skating from spot to spot just isn't all that fun on hard wheels sadly and skating at a spot with soft wheels sucks as well. I'm not opposed to trying some Bones wheels but so far I haven't really seen a reason to try them out I guess.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Pigeon on April 01, 2017, 07:12:46 AM
Spitfire F4 Classics in 54mm for the past three years. I only have to get new wheels every 2-3 months instead of monthly. I kind of want to try something new, so does anyone fuck with PFC?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: perverted super otaku! on April 01, 2017, 07:16:02 AM
in the same boat, need new wheels in the next month or two, tempted to try to something else but i feel like i'll instantly regret it
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on April 01, 2017, 07:55:59 AM
Spitfire F4 Classics in 54mm for the past three years. I only have to get new wheels every 2-3 months instead of monthly. I kind of want to try something new, so does anyone fuck with PFC?
do you like your wheels teeth-rattling hard? if you do you'll dig PFC
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: jamersonbass on April 01, 2017, 03:57:15 PM
I've been on an F4 101 Radial Slim kick for the last year.  I've been riding 52's pretty religiously but wanted to try something different that wasn't too drastic, so I've got some F4 99 Conical 53's on the way.  I'm hoping to have a tranny setup (I suck at tranny and really want to get better before age get's the best of me) and a street setup.  I'll set the Conicals up on the bigger board and put my Radial Slims with a ton of life left on the smaller setup.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Zimmer on April 01, 2017, 05:02:00 PM
im gonna have to intervene and say everyone has their taste and i cant back rictas, tried a set of NRG sandovals and they were fast no doubt but hard as rocks, and not even slidy hard. just plain hard.

wheels i can back

#1 bones stf(good grip, slide, and fast. theyre like a cruiser street wheel)
#2 mini logo A cut/maybe even the c cut 101a wheels(theyre such a nice classic street wheel feel with such good grip and feel, better than spit classics)
#3 spitfire  F4 either radial or classics
#4 i wanna say girl/chocolate wheels but i gotta get another set again, i think they felt like the mini logo 101a

other wheels ive tried(gold, spit classic, pig, ricta nrg, bones 100, and im forgetting one...) have nothing on these, also the mini logo really arent the same formula as bones 100 with a different name.

Mini logos are grippy but then all of a sudden slip out without warning IMO. Formula Fours are way more predictable and easier to slide but still grippy enough. Perfect. Unless you're on rough terrain. Then you'll need something softer (which is also sadly grippier).

I barely skate parks and I'm 90% on the streets, spitfire formula four 99 or 101 aren't as forgiving on street and aren't as fast as bones stf. When you skate on formula fours for days and try stf it's such a crazy difference, I rode formula fours for like 2 years and I was dead set on them then wondered why i dropped stf and tried them again and noticed they feel way smoother and faster

I've never skated Bones wheels. Something about the image just puts me off so I never tried them. Also streets here in Finland are mostly so crusty that you're not gonna have fun skating around with hard wheels. Even 54 mm 86A Keyframes feel too hard at some points. Skating from spot to spot just isn't all that fun on hard wheels sadly and skating at a spot with soft wheels sucks as well. I'm not opposed to trying some Bones wheels but so far I haven't really seen a reason to try them out I guess.

You really should give bones a shot! I was always against them for no reason, but there's plenty of reasons to drop some cash. They smooth out rough streets but still slide nice. Don't judge the wheel by its marketing lol.

I got some 55mm's, and they're the closest thing to a "cruiser street wheel" you'll ever ride.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: danjtony on April 01, 2017, 08:07:38 PM
Yeah I always thought Bones were wack too, but I've been riding SPF on tranny for like half a year now and they're pretty perfect. Never slip out, nice screeching slide, and they make F4's seem sluggish. Definitely wanna try some STF's too.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Roisto on April 02, 2017, 08:46:21 AM
Maybe I'll give the Bones a shot sometime once my leg has healed up and I've ran out of Formula Fours. I doubt they'll be any good for the crusty streets here though.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Krooked antihero on April 02, 2017, 01:06:08 PM
Maybe I'll give the Bones a shot sometime once my leg has healed up and I've ran out of Formula Fours. I doubt they'll be any good for the crusty streets here though.
I prefer bones stf's over f4's,there isn't that much difference between those two but I still like my bones little bit more as they being more grippy. Not sure what you meant by saying that you doubt for bones being any good for our shitty asphalt, they are as good as formula fours? If you want smooth ride here in Finland you have to have soft wheels under 90a duro and both f4's and stf's are hard as rock .... i tried both 99 and 101 f4' and ended up skating bones stf's again....
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Roisto on April 02, 2017, 01:17:29 PM
Quote from: Krooked antihero  link=topic=82118.msg2627268#msg2627268 date=1491163568
Maybe I'll give the Bones a shot sometime once my leg has healed up and I've ran out of Formula Fours. I doubt they'll be any good for the crusty streets here though.
I prefer bones stf's over f4's,there isn't that much difference between those two but I still like my bones little bit more as they being more grippy. Not sure what you meant by saying that you doubt for bones being any good for our shitty asphalt, they are as good as formula fours? If you want smooth ride here in Finland you have to have soft wheels under 90a duro and both f4's and stf's are hard as rock .... i tried both 99 and 101 f4' and ended up skating bones stf's again....

The guys were suggesting that they are better for rough terrain than Formula Fours and I was just stating that I don't think they'd work nicely here at all like you just confirmed. I've got 86A Keyframes on my other set up for a smoother ride and I just set up a cruiser with 78A Ricta Clouds to have an even smoother ride when my leg is good enough for skating again.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 02, 2017, 03:39:45 PM
Hey guys, I'm here trying to choose between a set of OJ's Insaneathane and this new Croupie brand. They are priced the same (the OJ's are on sale) so I'm kinda divided. Safest bet would be probably the OJ's but I also would love to give Tiago Lemos, Carlos Ribeiro and friends some money...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on April 02, 2017, 04:09:40 PM
Hey guys, I'm here trying to choose between a set of OJ's Insaneathane and this new Croupie brand. They are priced the same (the OJ's are on sale) so I'm kinda divided. Safest bet would be probably the OJ's but I also would love to give Tiago Lemos, Carlos Ribeiro and friends some money...

Trust me with this, OJ insane a thane feel like a slower bones stf, so get the croupie. I heard they're pretty legit.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 02, 2017, 04:32:42 PM
Hey guys, I'm here trying to choose between a set of OJ's Insaneathane and this new Croupie brand. They are priced the same (the OJ's are on sale) so I'm kinda divided. Safest bet would be probably the OJ's but I also would love to give Tiago Lemos, Carlos Ribeiro and friends some money...

Trust me with this, OJ insane a thane feel like a slower bones stf, so get the croupie. I heard they're pretty legit.

Actually after making the post I just said fuck it and went with the Crupie ones! If they are good enough for Tiago, who rides rough brazilian ground, then they're good for me.  :)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on April 02, 2017, 05:28:02 PM
Hey guys, I'm here trying to choose between a set of OJ's Insaneathane and this new Croupie brand. They are priced the same (the OJ's are on sale) so I'm kinda divided. Safest bet would be probably the OJ's but I also would love to give Tiago Lemos, Carlos Ribeiro and friends some money...

Trust me with this, OJ insane a thane feel like a slower bones stf, so get the croupie. I heard they're pretty legit.

Actually after making the post I just said fuck it and went with the Crupie ones! If they are good enough for Tiago, who rides rough brazilian ground, then they're good for me.  :)
Better choice. I went for the 101a 54mm e-z shape. Slippery as hell in the beginning but now they feel slow and are a drag to slide.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rails on April 02, 2017, 11:28:31 PM
on my second set of spitfires and a major problem is that the bearings are hard to remove and put in.

are rictas better?

if not, what brands are good for this purpose?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Krooked antihero on April 03, 2017, 02:43:28 AM
on my second set of spitfires and a major problem is that the bearings are hard to remove and put in.

are rictas better?

if not, what brands are good for this purpose?
Bones stf's, sometimes bearings just fall off when you remove wheels from axle.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on April 03, 2017, 04:16:51 AM
Quote from: Krooked antihero  link=topic=82118.msg2627490#msg2627490 date=1491212608
on my second set of spitfires and a major problem is that the bearings are hard to remove and put in.

are rictas better?

if not, what brands are good for this purpose?
Bones stf's, sometimes bearings just fall off when you remove wheels from axle.

Bones stf all the way
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: perverted super otaku! on April 03, 2017, 06:08:22 AM
does anyone skate oj's as their main street wheel? seems like a really unpopular choice? I guess they make their money of those keyframe wheels and cruisers
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rails on April 03, 2017, 07:38:24 AM
Quote from: Krooked antihero  link=topic=82118.msg2627490#msg2627490 date=1491212608
on my second set of spitfires and a major problem is that the bearings are hard to remove and put in.

are rictas better?

if not, what brands are good for this purpose?
Bones stf's, sometimes bearings just fall off when you remove wheels from axle.

Bones stf all the way

this is annoying of me but i also won't do bones since the only bones i can find are 100 and up durometer and i want 99. any wheel brands that are good for bearing maintenance that are 99 ?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rails on April 03, 2017, 08:26:00 AM
Quote from: Krooked antihero  link=topic=82118.msg2627490#msg2627490 date=1491212608
on my second set of spitfires and a major problem is that the bearings are hard to remove and put in.

are rictas better?

if not, what brands are good for this purpose?
Bones stf's, sometimes bearings just fall off when you remove wheels from axle.

Bones stf all the way

this is annoying of me but i also won't do bones since the only bones i can find are 100 and up durometer and i want 99. any wheel brands that are good for bearing maintenance that are 99 ?

does anyone have experience with the ricta nyjah gold core white 53mm in regards to bearing input and output?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on April 03, 2017, 09:03:10 AM
Quote from: Krooked antihero  link=topic=82118.msg2627490#msg2627490 date=1491212608
on my second set of spitfires and a major problem is that the bearings are hard to remove and put in.

are rictas better?

if not, what brands are good for this purpose?
Bones stf's, sometimes bearings just fall off when you remove wheels from axle.

Bones stf all the way

this is annoying of me but i also won't do bones since the only bones i can find are 100 and up durometer and i want 99. any wheel brands that are good for bearing maintenance that are 99 ?

does anyone have experience with the ricta nyjah gold core white 53mm in regards to bearing input and output?
Not with those specific wheels but my rictas were the biggest pain in the ass to get my bearings in and out of.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rails on April 03, 2017, 09:44:38 AM
Quote from: Krooked antihero  link=topic=82118.msg2627490#msg2627490 date=1491212608
on my second set of spitfires and a major problem is that the bearings are hard to remove and put in.

are rictas better?

if not, what brands are good for this purpose?
Bones stf's, sometimes bearings just fall off when you remove wheels from axle.

Bones stf all the way

this is annoying of me but i also won't do bones since the only bones i can find are 100 and up durometer and i want 99. any wheel brands that are good for bearing maintenance that are 99 ?

does anyone have experience with the ricta nyjah gold core white 53mm in regards to bearing input and output?
Not with those specific wheels but my rictas were the biggest pain in the ass to get my bearings in and out of.

thanmks for the input. what rictas do u have?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on April 03, 2017, 09:55:13 AM
I had the 53mm Park Crushers. My favorite wheel ever that they don't make anymore. They were 83b instead of 81b.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on April 03, 2017, 04:30:37 PM
does anyone skate oj's as their main street wheel? seems like a really unpopular choice? I guess they make their money of those keyframe wheels and cruisers

Trust, the insane a thane 101 feel about like a bones stf but they're slow, you gotta push and push and push to get anywhere. They're not bad feeling they're just annoyingly slow.

on my second set of spitfires and a major problem is that the bearings are hard to remove and put in.

are rictas better?

if not, what brands are good for this purpose?
Bones stf's, sometimes bearings just fall off when you remove wheels from axle.

Bones stf all the way

this is annoying of me but i also won't do bones since the only bones i can find are 100 and up durometer and i want 99. any wheel brands that are good for bearing maintenance that are 99 ?

There was a thing somewhere(I think that ratvision skate videos guy) who said that the durometer of a wheel doesn't do justice, it's the formula. It's true too cause I swear my stf are smoother and softer than my spit classic 99a, the classics are so slick and stiff
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Zimmer on April 03, 2017, 04:53:58 PM
Absolutely, formula means a lot more than durometer. Bones stf's feel softer than 99a F4's too..

OJ's formula is hard and slow. Even their 92a ditch witches feel as hard as F4s. Shits all fucked up. My favourite formula is still 101a F4, it just feels right. I like bones but they're almost too easy to slide
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: HFS40000 on April 03, 2017, 06:34:07 PM
I've been into soft wheels lately, I had some ricta clouds, the 86a ones and they were a little too soft and bouncy, plus they were super wide and just felt really bulky.  I switched up to some Autobahn Torus 54's, they're 90a and feel just right so far.  Thinner and grippy, softer than most wheels without feeling like a longboard. 
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rails on April 03, 2017, 07:39:20 PM
I've been into soft wheels lately, I had some ricta clouds, the 86a ones and they were a little too soft and bouncy, plus they were super wide and just felt really bulky.  I switched up to some Autobahn Torus 54's, they're 90a and feel just right so far.  Thinner and grippy, softer than most wheels without feeling like a longboard. 

Regarding the Autobahn Torus 54s, are bearings reasonably easy to install and take out? Thank you for the commentary.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: HFS40000 on April 03, 2017, 08:29:48 PM
I haven't had any problems taking out the bearings.  Usually harder wheels are tougher for me to pull them out of, but these ones are a little more flexible.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Esquivel on April 04, 2017, 05:44:13 AM
I've been into soft wheels lately, I had some ricta clouds, the 86a ones and they were a little too soft and bouncy, plus they were super wide and just felt really bulky.  I switched up to some Autobahn Torus 54's, they're 90a and feel just right so far.  Thinner and grippy, softer than most wheels without feeling like a longboard. 

Regarding the Autobahn Torus 54s, are bearings reasonably easy to install and take out? Thank you for the commentary.

Dude, the bearings being hard to set up/remove is a good thing! It means that they will fit nice and snug in the wheel and you will not have any issues with the bearing socket slackening. You are probably using a wrong technique. I don't know much about longboard wheels but regarding the regular street skating ones that I have been using all my life, if you have a decent set of wheels it should be impossible to install the bearings using only pressure from your fingertips. You have to set the board sideways, place a bearing on the trucks and use your body weight to slam the wheel down.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on April 04, 2017, 09:50:35 AM
I'm a fan of the OJ insane-a-thane (stupid marketing be damned), hardline shape. I don't find them slow at all compared to STFs in a park setting, quite the opposite; SPF over OJs in park all day tho. They 'regular' OJs are slow and soft in parks but feel just fine on regular street, like wayward and f4s.

STFs still feel weird tho.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rails on April 04, 2017, 08:48:36 PM
[...] bearing socket slackening. [...]

some bearing socket slack is good for cushioning impact
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on April 04, 2017, 10:48:01 PM
Nah man. You want your bearings to be nice and snug in your wheel.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Esquivel on April 05, 2017, 12:10:24 AM
[...] bearing socket slackening. [...]

some bearing socket slack is good for cushioning impact

yeah, especially if you fill the gaps with felt
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on April 05, 2017, 10:54:44 AM
I'm thinking g about getting crupie's. Team/overall vibe are sick! Anyone have these?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: 20matar on April 05, 2017, 03:09:52 PM
I'm thinking g about getting crupie's. Team/overall vibe are sick! Anyone have these?

You could just wait until four people get a set and beg for their fifth wheels.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tangar on April 05, 2017, 03:35:40 PM
Pretty sure someone here just got some, maybe in the recent purchases thread
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rails on April 05, 2017, 06:51:39 PM
[...] bearing socket slackening. [...]

some bearing socket slack is good for cushioning impact

yeah, especially if you fill the gaps with felt

haha.. im gonna coin a term here "bearing feel" basically i always rode the cheapest stock wheels until my most recent two sets which were spitfires.. classics and bigheads.. bearings fit a lot tighter into these and the wheels are more noticeable. but in having the wheels more noticeable u lose some bearing feel that comes with the socket slack.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: johnes on April 05, 2017, 07:55:40 PM
After being a little unsure for a while, i've realized I love my Orbs Ghost Lights. They just always feel hard and fast, they dont take much effort to slide. I have some in 54mm on my normal set up and 52 on my extra board. They haven't seemed to lose any chunks the way f4s sometimes do, no flat spots yet either.
(http://www.tactics.com/a/8xuo/2/welcome-orbs-ghost-lites-hollow-core-skateboard-wheels-white-mint-102a.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Bumpovertrash on April 06, 2017, 02:55:35 AM
After being a little unsure for a while, i've realized I love my Orbs Ghost Lights. They just always feel hard and fast, they dont take much effort to slide. I have some in 54mm on my normal set up and 52 on my extra board. They haven't seemed to lose any chunks the way f4s sometimes do, no flat spots yet either.
(http://www.tactics.com/a/8xuo/2/welcome-orbs-ghost-lites-hollow-core-skateboard-wheels-white-mint-102a.jpg)
Was thinking about trying these but haven't rode cores wheels ina decade.last ones I had were Darkstar unbreakable bullahit and the core popped out in a week. I was skating parking blocks and 3 stairs
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on April 06, 2017, 03:26:30 AM
Pretty sure someone here just got some, maybe in the recent purchases thread
Why thank you my good man.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 06, 2017, 05:11:21 AM
Quote from: Bumpovertrash  link=topic=82118.msg2628732#msg2628732 date=1491472535
After being a little unsure for a while, i've realized I love my Orbs Ghost Lights. They just always feel hard and fast, they dont take much effort to slide. I have some in 54mm on my normal set up and 52 on my extra board. They haven't seemed to lose any chunks the way f4s sometimes do, no flat spots yet either.
(http://www.tactics.com/a/8xuo/2/welcome-orbs-ghost-lites-hollow-core-skateboard-wheels-white-mint-102a.jpg)
Was thinking about trying these but haven't rode cores wheels ina decade.last ones I had were Darkstar unbreakable bullahit and the core popped out in a week. I was skating parking blocks and 3 stairs

(http://www.hardcorehobbieshq.com/productimages/sk024.png)

I was using this muckefuck ones that look the exact same as the welcome ones (probably made on the same place) and they were the best wheels i've ever had. Fast, light, slide great, durable... Probably kinda slippery on parks but they are a hard wheel anyway. If the welcome are the same I wouldnt be scared to try them.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tangar on April 06, 2017, 06:54:38 AM
I copped some old Danny Renaud Paradise wheels for cheap from my local, only skated them on a flat a little yesterday. They felt a little soft for being 101s as compared to the F4s (99&101) I've been on for a while. But otherwise they felt fine.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Esquivel on April 07, 2017, 06:18:36 AM
Quote from: Bumpovertrash  link=topic=82118.msg2628732#msg2628732 date=1491472535
After being a little unsure for a while, i've realized I love my Orbs Ghost Lights. They just always feel hard and fast, they dont take much effort to slide. I have some in 54mm on my normal set up and 52 on my extra board. They haven't seemed to lose any chunks the way f4s sometimes do, no flat spots yet either.
(http://www.tactics.com/a/8xuo/2/welcome-orbs-ghost-lites-hollow-core-skateboard-wheels-white-mint-102a.jpg)
Was thinking about trying these but haven't rode cores wheels ina decade.last ones I had were Darkstar unbreakable bullahit and the core popped out in a week. I was skating parking blocks and 3 stairs

(http://www.hardcorehobbieshq.com/productimages/sk024.png)

I was using this muckefuck ones that look the exact same as the welcome ones (probably made on the same place) and they were the best wheels i've ever had. Fast, light, slide great, durable... Probably kinda slippery on parks but they are a hard wheel anyway. If the welcome are the same I wouldnt be scared to try them.

exactly, i used to ride only cored wheels for a while (when i freaked with bones bearing cages slackening) and was using mainly rictas. Apart from the inedible flatspot i was very happy with the performance. Have seen flip sidecuts and also those shitty element featherlights breaking but my whole experience with core wheels is that if it is a decent set then they are not going to disappoint. These welcome/muckfuck ones look extra light
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on April 07, 2017, 06:45:59 AM
RIP Darkstar Lightknights. My favorite wheel I've ever skated.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on April 09, 2017, 07:35:32 AM
Does darkstar really make good formula wheels ?

I read Chet had darkstar originally as a wheel company and focused on darkstar doing top wheels for a moment then being forced to strictly do boards and starting wreck to continue his wheels thing
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on April 09, 2017, 10:55:35 AM
No they don't. But the used to. Boooyy did they used to.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Zimmer on April 09, 2017, 01:53:17 PM
Yup, I remember darkstar being a legit wheel choice back in the day. Now I would probably just try wreck instead.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on April 12, 2017, 07:53:32 AM
Thanks for the feedback I was wondering cause warehouse had a sale on them and I remember my best friend had the same feeling about the light Knights, I wanna try some wreck but from the reviews I've seen everyone who rode bones stf previously still prefer stf over wreck and I hardcore love my stf's

Riding on some 53mm v5 and I love them, starting to have OCD on the shape here and there though and craving some classic v1, not too wide not too thin, classic shape and stf formula
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on April 12, 2017, 08:21:58 AM
From what I remember the dark stars had that really hard hard plastic feel and stf's have that slightly softer feel....
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on April 12, 2017, 09:06:37 AM
They were definitely hard as fuck.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: TheBoognish on April 12, 2017, 11:48:29 AM
Does darkstar really make good formula wheels ?

I read Chet had darkstar originally as a wheel company and focused on darkstar doing top wheels for a moment then being forced to strictly do boards and starting wreck to continue his wheels thing

Best wheels in the game in the early 2000's. Don't know about now, I doubt they're as good as they used to.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: HFS40000 on April 12, 2017, 12:45:05 PM
Has anyone skated Ghetto Child's (ghetto children?) since they rebooted? I like the shape of them but haven't heard anything about the formula.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Twig88 on April 12, 2017, 12:53:25 PM
I've been riding some 86a Ricta Clouds for a few weeks now and though they took a little getting used to, I'm really enjoying them. The roll a lot smoother than the 92a Spitfire Soft Ds on rough ground (unsurprisingly) but I don't feel I've sacrificed any rebound to get that magic carpet feel. I'm not hitting a lot of ledges but they do slide if you push in to them on nose/tailslides and they feel good on flip tricks. My frontside flips kinda scrape and these don't kill me which I'm taking as a good sign. They definitely have a soft wheel bounce that takes some getting used to. I'd say they are light years better than a Spitfire 80hd though.

I'm in the UK and spend a lot of my skate time just pushing around town so smooth ride is a priority. I never intended these to be used for more than that, but I take them out instead of my 92a Soft Ds because they have no real downside and they ride better. I'm planning to try both the 92a Clouds and the 95a Soft Ds to get a full spectrum. Just not sure which to get first.

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Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: thespacewolf on April 12, 2017, 01:18:12 PM
I've been riding some 86a Ricta Clouds for a few weeks now and though they took a little getting used to, I'm really enjoying them. The roll a lot smoother than the 92a Spitfire Soft Ds on rough ground (unsurprisingly) but I don't feel I've sacrificed any rebound to get that magic carpet feel. I'm not hitting a lot of ledges but they do slide if you push in to them on nose/tailslides and they feel good on flip tricks. My frontside flips kinda scrape and these don't kill me which I'm taking as a good sign. They definitely have a soft wheel bounce that takes some getting used to. I'd say they are light years better than a Spitfire 80hd though.

I'm in the UK and spend a lot of my skate time just pushing around town so smooth ride is a priority. I never intended these to be used for more than that, but I take them out instead of my 92a Soft Ds because they have no real downside and they ride better. I'm planning to try both the 92a Clouds and the 95a Soft Ds to get a full spectrum. Just not sure which to get first.

I'm currently riding the 95a Soft Ds and they're exactly what I'm looking for. I was in love with F4s, but wanted a softer ride, so I tried the 92a clouds, which we're still a tad bit grippier and bouncier than I wanted, then went to the 95a Soft Ds.

In your case, I'd say you're in a good spot. I would imagine that the 92a Soft Ds aren't as different as the 92a clouds, but they are different brands so who knows. With the 95a you're probably going to feel the rough ground more than you would like. Also I live/skate in southern California and don't skate around rough roads, which would probably explain my love for a somewhat harder wheel.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Dr-Feelgood on April 12, 2017, 01:27:01 PM
Has anyone skated Ghetto Child's (ghetto children?) since they rebooted? I like the shape of them but haven't heard anything about the formula.

Havent really heard anything but i plan on getting a whole new set up this summer, was thinking about getting ghetto child wheels.

Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on April 12, 2017, 06:46:29 PM
Best wheels in the game in the early 2000's.
core tech from Australia tho :o
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: calvinsdream on April 13, 2017, 12:22:56 PM
I've been riding some 86a Ricta Clouds for a few weeks now and though they took a little getting used to, I'm really enjoying them. The roll a lot smoother than the 92a Spitfire Soft Ds on rough ground (unsurprisingly) but I don't feel I've sacrificed any rebound to get that magic carpet feel. I'm not hitting a lot of ledges but they do slide if you push in to them on nose/tailslides and they feel good on flip tricks. My frontside flips kinda scrape and these don't kill me which I'm taking as a good sign. They definitely have a soft wheel bounce that takes some getting used to. I'd say they are light years better than a Spitfire 80hd though.

I'm in the UK and spend a lot of my skate time just pushing around town so smooth ride is a priority. I never intended these to be used for more than that, but I take them out instead of my 92a Soft Ds because they have no real downside and they ride better. I'm planning to try both the 92a Clouds and the 95a Soft Ds to get a full spectrum. Just not sure which to get first.


I'm currently riding the 95a Soft Ds and they're exactly what I'm looking for. I was in love with F4s, but wanted a softer ride, so I tried the 92a clouds, which we're still a tad bit grippier and bouncier than I wanted, then went to the 95a Soft Ds.

In your case, I'd say you're in a good spot. I would imagine that the 92a Soft Ds aren't as different as the 92a clouds, but they are different brands so who knows. With the 95a you're probably going to feel the rough ground more than you would like. Also I live/skate in southern California and don't skate around rough roads, which would probably explain my love for a somewhat harder wheel.

I'm really loving the 78a clouds on my cruiser set up now. They're even reasonably slideable on rougher concrete.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: OldManSkate on April 13, 2017, 12:30:45 PM
Anybody try Pusher Wheels? Curious on how they ride but my heart is telling me to stick to F4's...they've never let me down.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: cosmicgypsies on April 21, 2017, 09:55:37 AM
how do stf v5s stack up against say formula fours? rocked some 56mm stf v5s for a year and need a new set, dunno whether to grab another set of stfs (probably 54's), try formula fours or maybe give spfs or even speedlab a shot.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on April 21, 2017, 11:57:48 AM
how do stf v5s stack up against say formula fours? rocked some 56mm stf v5s for a year and need a new set, dunno whether to grab another set of stfs (probably 54's), try formula fours or maybe give spfs or even speedlab a shot.

I went from the 99a Classic shape Formula 4s to V5 Bones. The Bones definitely feel more slippery and plasticky. As for an accurate comparison, just picked up 101a Conical Fulls off skatewarehouse
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: sharkin on April 21, 2017, 12:44:07 PM
101a conical full  ;D
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: DaveFuck on April 21, 2017, 03:10:10 PM
101a conical full  ;D
101s are perrrrrect. ive been riding the classic 101s 53mm and they slide when i need to and not when i dont
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on April 21, 2017, 03:14:09 PM
101 radial slims are sooo good tho.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on April 21, 2017, 06:12:15 PM
how do stf v5s stack up against say formula fours? rocked some 56mm stf v5s for a year and need a new set, dunno whether to grab another set of stfs (probably 54's), try formula fours or maybe give spfs or even speedlab a shot.

I went from the 99a Classic shape Formula 4s to V5 Bones. The Bones definitely feel more slippery and plasticky. As for an accurate comparison, just picked up 101a Conical Fulls off skatewarehouse

Maybe at a park but I skate street almost everyday and bones stf feel way smoother and faster than formula fours. Formula fours on street are slower and rattle 99 or 101. If you push around streets with each on different setups for like 10 min each you'll notice what I'm saying, I was riding formula fours and swore they were the best wheels for 2 years then I switched around back to stf and best switch I've made, so much faster and smoother and grippier. The formula fours are for easy slides even when your rolling slow cause power slides before were usually only done bombing a hill or slowing down after picking up speed landing a trick but not the way we do it now just sliding around with trendy tricks and trying to slow down with style before you hit a ledge or curb, if you skate street/ harsh actual asphalt and rough cement streets bones stf, if you just skate at the park I think whatever you like is good cause the floors all Nice and smooth
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: cosmicgypsies on April 24, 2017, 10:23:43 AM
word the stfs are pretty plasticky, when i first got mine i was cruising down my street and chucked the first powerslide on em and ate shit so fucking bad. after looking around i think im gonna get some spfs but im on the line about sizes; i got away with 56mm stfs on thunder 149 team hi's and 1/4 pig risers but i dunno if i should go 56 again or make a jump to some nice looking 60mm schroeder spfs. most likely be on an 8.38 and i mostly skate transition with the occasional street spot thrown in, just wondering what sort of riser setup/bolts i'd need, probably a 1/2 inch riser and the 1 1/2 inch bolts?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: danjtony on April 24, 2017, 10:17:57 PM
A quarter inch riser should suffice (1 1/4th hardware). I had 149's with 59mm hard wheels and I had them super loose--1/4th was fine
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: cosmicgypsies on April 25, 2017, 03:43:37 AM
oh word nice, i didnt know 1 1/4th hardware existed it seems nowhere localish stocks it - was running 1 inch bolts on 1/4 risers and had to periodically tighten em up or the fuckers would come loose, lost a few bolts cus of that. still unsure if 60 would be too big for myself but fuck it.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: danjtony on April 25, 2017, 05:17:19 AM
Yeah I dunno, I skate a lot tranny too and the biggest I can go is 56mm. Any bigger and I can't flip my board well. Also like loose trucks and not a fan of big ass risers (1/8th is ok though)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on April 25, 2017, 10:53:18 AM
how do stf v5s stack up against say formula fours? rocked some 56mm stf v5s for a year and need a new set, dunno whether to grab another set of stfs (probably 54's), try formula fours or maybe give spfs or even speedlab a shot.

I went from the 99a Classic shape Formula 4s to V5 Bones. The Bones definitely feel more slippery and plasticky. As for an accurate comparison, just picked up 101a Conical Fulls off skatewarehouse

Maybe at a park but I skate street almost everyday and bones stf feel way smoother and faster than formula fours. Formula fours on street are slower and rattle 99 or 101. If you push around streets with each on different setups for like 10 min each you'll notice what I'm saying, I was riding formula fours and swore they were the best wheels for 2 years then I switched around back to stf and best switch I've made, so much faster and smoother and grippier. The formula fours are for easy slides even when your rolling slow cause power slides before were usually only done bombing a hill or slowing down after picking up speed landing a trick but not the way we do it now just sliding around with trendy tricks and trying to slow down with style before you hit a ledge or curb, if you skate street/ harsh actual asphalt and rough cement streets bones stf, if you just skate at the park I think whatever you like is good cause the floors all Nice and smooth

Alright, got the Spitfires. Haven't done much because of school and work but, feel better than the EZ edge OJs. Could be the hype to be back on Spitfire but I felt faster and slides are way easier, I can actually get my front wheels to slide instead of having to pump or revert.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on April 29, 2017, 11:08:53 AM
how do stf v5s stack up against say formula fours? rocked some 56mm stf v5s for a year and need a new set, dunno whether to grab another set of stfs (probably 54's), try formula fours or maybe give spfs or even speedlab a shot.

I went from the 99a Classic shape Formula 4s to V5 Bones. The Bones definitely feel more slippery and plasticky. As for an accurate comparison, just picked up 101a Conical Fulls off skatewarehouse

The V5/P5 (OJ Hardline) is one of my favorite shapes for wheels (barring the Spit AWOL, come on DLX, bring it back).

It's apples to oranges, you couldn't have more of a different feel between wheels.

For me, if I'm skating smooth street, let's say a park setting, good parking lots, whatever, STFs (hell for park street skating only I'd go spfs). Shitty streets and harsh terrain, F4s (or wayward/regular OJs all the way) as they're hard, slide and grip but they are a tad bit forgiving when it comes to rattle as they feel softer to me than STFs.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: calvinsdream on May 01, 2017, 08:18:37 PM
word the stfs are pretty plasticky, when i first got mine i was cruising down my street and chucked the first powerslide on em and ate shit so fucking bad. after looking around i think im gonna get some spfs but im on the line about sizes; i got away with 56mm stfs on thunder 149 team hi's and 1/4 pig risers but i dunno if i should go 56 again or make a jump to some nice looking 60mm schroeder spfs. most likely be on an 8.38 and i mostly skate transition with the occasional street spot thrown in, just wondering what sort of riser setup/bolts i'd need, probably a 1/2 inch riser and the 1 1/2 inch bolts?

I bought half inch risers once. I've never found a use for them that 1/4" risers don't meet.

1/2" risers are 12.5mm. So running 1/2" risers for 60mm gives the same ratio as riding 47.5mm wheels with no risers - maybe a bit overkill.

1/4" risers with 60mm means you're running the equivalent of 54mm with no risers.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Roisto on May 01, 2017, 08:50:59 PM
word the stfs are pretty plasticky, when i first got mine i was cruising down my street and chucked the first powerslide on em and ate shit so fucking bad. after looking around i think im gonna get some spfs but im on the line about sizes; i got away with 56mm stfs on thunder 149 team hi's and 1/4 pig risers but i dunno if i should go 56 again or make a jump to some nice looking 60mm schroeder spfs. most likely be on an 8.38 and i mostly skate transition with the occasional street spot thrown in, just wondering what sort of riser setup/bolts i'd need, probably a 1/2 inch riser and the 1 1/2 inch bolts?

I bought half inch risers once. I've never found a use for them that 1/4" risers don't meet.

1/2" risers are 12.5mm. So running 1/2" risers for 60mm gives the same ratio as riding 47.5mm wheels with no risers - maybe a bit overkill.

1/4" risers with 60mm means you're running the equivalent of 54mm with no risers.

Actually, the difference in 54 mm and 60 mm wheels is 6 mm, but only half of that (3 mm) is between the axle and the board, so a 1/8" (3.175 mm) riser would give you about the same clearance on a 60 mm wheel as a 54 mm wheel with no riser.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: calvinsdream on May 01, 2017, 11:27:48 PM
word the stfs are pretty plasticky, when i first got mine i was cruising down my street and chucked the first powerslide on em and ate shit so fucking bad. after looking around i think im gonna get some spfs but im on the line about sizes; i got away with 56mm stfs on thunder 149 team hi's and 1/4 pig risers but i dunno if i should go 56 again or make a jump to some nice looking 60mm schroeder spfs. most likely be on an 8.38 and i mostly skate transition with the occasional street spot thrown in, just wondering what sort of riser setup/bolts i'd need, probably a 1/2 inch riser and the 1 1/2 inch bolts?

I bought half inch risers once. I've never found a use for them that 1/4" risers don't meet.

1/2" risers are 12.5mm. So running 1/2" risers for 60mm gives the same ratio as riding 47.5mm wheels with no risers - maybe a bit overkill.

1/4" risers with 60mm means you're running the equivalent of 54mm with no risers.

Actually, the difference in 54 mm and 60 mm wheels is 6 mm, but only half of that (3 mm) is between the axle and the board, so a 1/8" (3.175 mm) riser would give you about the same clearance on a 60 mm wheel as a 54 mm wheel with no riser.

holy fuck i can't believe i never thought of that

I've been calculating it wrong for like 3 years now.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: art hellman on May 02, 2017, 07:46:07 AM
word the stfs are pretty plasticky, when i first got mine i was cruising down my street and chucked the first powerslide on em and ate shit so fucking bad. after looking around i think im gonna get some spfs but im on the line about sizes; i got away with 56mm stfs on thunder 149 team hi's and 1/4 pig risers but i dunno if i should go 56 again or make a jump to some nice looking 60mm schroeder spfs. most likely be on an 8.38 and i mostly skate transition with the occasional street spot thrown in, just wondering what sort of riser setup/bolts i'd need, probably a 1/2 inch riser and the 1 1/2 inch bolts?

I bought half inch risers once. I've never found a use for them that 1/4" risers don't meet.

1/2" risers are 12.5mm. So running 1/2" risers for 60mm gives the same ratio as riding 47.5mm wheels with no risers - maybe a bit overkill.

1/4" risers with 60mm means you're running the equivalent of 54mm with no risers.

Actually, the difference in 54 mm and 60 mm wheels is 6 mm, but only half of that (3 mm) is between the axle and the board, so a 1/8" (3.175 mm) riser would give you about the same clearance on a 60 mm wheel as a 54 mm wheel with no riser.

holy fuck i can't believe i never thought of that

I've been calculating it wrong for like 3 years now.

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Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on May 10, 2017, 09:50:38 PM
Quick question about Wayward wheels if anyone knows.

What's closer to a spitfire classic shape, Wayward round shape or slim?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: art hellman on May 11, 2017, 08:02:58 AM
whatever shape Wayward's standard shape is (I'm guessing the 'round'), it's very close to the classic Spitfire shape... the wayward standard may have a lil bit wider riding-area, but not much.

Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on May 13, 2017, 04:16:23 PM
Quick question about Wayward wheels if anyone knows.

What's closer to a spitfire classic shape, Wayward round shape or slim?

The slim (the round is much wider than the spit classic, think classic full, which they discontinued, so those of you who loved'em, grab some waywards ;) I compared both side by side when buying my waywards and couldn't pull the trigger on the round cuts, had to go with the slims.

Left 52mm spit classic, right 52mm wayward slim.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/qCh_HgyFUTqFos2uOG8S422bpJqqvayu0JAMJ3smLZgaWbIxTtQZdvB1o0jaDJDxrzqoatqnP4lbu96ExpF1sLaOZgtN-Efs0r0pQ_LPlPvTfiv6fZ2Abgrhu7EDLCPKNx2p85Y)

Notes:

- Wayward roundcut  slims are a hair slimmer than the F4 classic shape, yet wider than the spit classic slim (which I think are also discontinued?)

- Spits and waywards (and bones) increase in width and riding surface as you increase in height:

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1503/8660/files/ROUNDCUTSLIM_large.png?v=1476555320)

Measurements to compare the round cut and classic (wawards site doesn't have a table for the slim wheel for some reason).

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1503/8660/files/FORMULAWON_TABLE_2_large.png?v=1476556089)
(http://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring17/drop1/14-f4-chart-desktop.jpg)

101 Spits and wayward are damn near identical in feel but i'd give the edge to spits when it comes to slide and wayward in terms of grip, tho it could be that the waywards just feel a tad softer (to me anyway) both great for shitty terrain - wayards will stay whiter it seems. The funnel shape looks pretty bad-ass..
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on May 13, 2017, 07:53:52 PM
Quick question about Wayward wheels if anyone knows.

What's closer to a spitfire classic shape, Wayward round shape or slim?

The slim (the round is much wider than the spit classic, think classic full, which they discontinued, so those of you who loved'em, grab some waywards ;) I compared both side by side when buying my waywards and couldn't pull the trigger on the round cuts, had to go with the slims.

Left 52mm spit classic, right 52mm wayward slim.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/qCh_HgyFUTqFos2uOG8S422bpJqqvayu0JAMJ3smLZgaWbIxTtQZdvB1o0jaDJDxrzqoatqnP4lbu96ExpF1sLaOZgtN-Efs0r0pQ_LPlPvTfiv6fZ2Abgrhu7EDLCPKNx2p85Y)

Notes:

- Wayward roundcut  slims are a hair slimmer than the F4 classic shape, yet wider than the spit classic slim (which I think are also discontinued?)

- Spits and waywards (and bones) increase in width and riding surface as you increase in height:

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1503/8660/files/ROUNDCUTSLIM_large.png?v=1476555320)

Measurements to compare the round cut and classic (wawards site doesn't have a table for the slim wheel for some reason).

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1503/8660/files/FORMULAWON_TABLE_2_large.png?v=1476556089)
(http://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring17/drop1/14-f4-chart-desktop.jpg)

101 Spits and wayward are damn near identical in feel but i'd give the edge to spits when it comes to slide and wayward in terms of grip, tho it could be that the waywards just feel a tad softer (to me anyway) both great for shitty terrain - wayards will stay whiter it seems. The funnel shape looks pretty bad-ass..

Xen you are the man! looms like I'll be picking up a set of 52 slims then.

Even better too  because the round cuts I can get are 99a and these slims are 101A.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Noble Experiment on May 14, 2017, 03:22:30 AM
I'm officially in the market for some new wheels. Thinking about getting these because they're cheap and I'm one broke motherfucker
http://www.skatewarehouse.com/Autobahn_Nexus_AB-S_100A_Wheels/descpage-ABNABWH.html (http://www.skatewarehouse.com/Autobahn_Nexus_AB-S_100A_Wheels/descpage-ABNABWH.html)
I've heard good things about autobahn but I'm pretty sure these are just their normal run of the mill formula/pricepoint formula as opposed to their more fancy formula wheels that everyone praises. How are these when it comes to durability and feel? Would it be a good investment or should I go with something else?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: DaSk8D00D on May 18, 2017, 10:01:16 AM
I'm thinking g about getting crupie's. Team/overall vibe are sick! Anyone have these?

I've been hyped off them too I Got a set of the Carlos ribeiro wheels in 54mm coming in the mail. I'm looking forward to trying them out I'll post in here after I've skated em for a bit
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Bensquirts on May 18, 2017, 01:04:31 PM
Has anyone tried Muckefuck wheels?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on May 18, 2017, 03:34:27 PM
Has anyone tried Muckefuck wheels?
Go for it! Really good wheels and sick team. They laaaaast, are fast, slide good, never had a flatspot (I had the Jorge Simoes 52mm cored wheel). Never heard a complain about them and they were kinda popular in my area. My set of wheels was 1 year old and they were like 50mm still, crazy durable. The

I'm thinking g about getting crupie's. Team/overall vibe are sick! Anyone have these?

I've been hyped off them too I Got a set of the Carlos ribeiro wheels in 54mm coming in the mail. I'm looking forward to trying them out I'll post in here after I've skated em for a bit
About the Crupies, I have the Carlos Ribeiro 53mm right now on my setup and after about 1 month I cant complain. I havent been skating as much as I want but they feel fast, probably faster than the Muckefucks I had, but they also feel harder, which I like. I've skated in Parks with smooth grounds and they arent super slippery. They slide good when doing tailslides and such, and seem durable too because I can still see a little of the ridges you have on a new wheel.
I feel that for the price they ask they're probably the best wheel out there, price-value wise. A Spit formula four or some Bones cost like 50 euros or more in europe, while those were 30 and they feel really good. The team has some people that I want to support too so that's a bonus.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Bensquirts on May 18, 2017, 07:13:05 PM
Has anyone tried Muckefuck wheels?
Go for it! Really good wheels and sick team. They laaaaast, are fast, slide good, never had a flatspot (I had the Jorge Simoes 52mm cored wheel). Never heard a complain about them and they were kinda popular in my area. My set of wheels was 1 year old and they were like 50mm still, crazy durable. The


Thank you for the heads up SKATAN, I just ordered a set!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: shitdick22 on May 18, 2017, 09:32:47 PM
just got some 52mm ricta clouds (the hardest ones). They feel fucking incredible but are a little big for my board. Gonna throw them on a cruiser setup and film with them till they're like 50s
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: JumpManShorty on May 18, 2017, 11:52:28 PM
Just been out in Tokyo and get the 99s anyone heading out there. Shits crusty as fuck
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on June 01, 2017, 10:47:47 PM
Just rode wayward wheels (101A) for the first time and they feel almost exactly like my 101 formula 4s but crisper if that makes sense.


Defo backing this company!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tangar on June 02, 2017, 12:02:52 AM
Just rode wayward wheels (101A) for the first time and they feel almost exactly like my 101 formula 4s but crisper if that makes sense.


Defo backing this company!
Are they grippy at all or do they feel like out-of-control slide? I'm definitely interested in getting a set.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: kook nukem on June 02, 2017, 12:24:31 AM
How do fools rock 101a? Slides around on parks, and feels every bump when it's rough. Can anyone explain, because I've never understood the appeal? 99a only for me.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on June 02, 2017, 02:20:46 AM
How do fools rock 101a? Slides around on parks, and feels every bump when it's rough. Can anyone explain, because I've never understood the appeal? 99a only for me.

101As never bother me when I ride as far the teeth rattling.


Also These Waywards feel only the slightest bit more slippery than the formula 4s but also have tons of grip for a wheel that slides this good.


Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tangar on June 02, 2017, 09:08:47 AM
I'm going back and forth between radial slims and classic slims, both 99. I was doing a lot of power slides to stop myself the last couple days and it feels like the radials are more slippery than the classics, maybe cause the classics are older and more at the sweet spot so to speak? I have no idea. But I definitely wanna stick with slim wheels, hopefully my local will get waywards in eventually.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: DaSk8D00D on June 02, 2017, 10:26:22 AM
Loving these Crupie 54mm 101a wheels. I've been skating the 99a spitfires exclusively for a couple of years now but these Crupies feel just as good so far. They've got somewhat of a radial shape, and despite being a harder wheel they still grip smooth surfaces pretty well and slide like a beast. Only time will tell how long they last or if the "stay white" formula works but so far, they're as legit as anything else out there. Hopefully the brand pops off
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: N.L. on June 02, 2017, 12:30:38 PM
How do fools rock 101a? Slides around on parks, and feels every bump when it's rough. Can anyone explain, because I've never understood the appeal? 99a only for me.

Two words: Backside Powerslides. Sure, I can do them on 99s but without 101s I'd probably wouldn't have learnt them...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on June 02, 2017, 01:13:02 PM
I'm going back and forth between radial slims and classic slims, both 99. I was doing a lot of power slides to stop myself the last couple days and it feels like the radials are more slippery than the classics, maybe cause the classics are older and more at the sweet spot so to speak? I have no idea. But I definitely wanna stick with slim wheels, hopefully my local will get waywards in eventually.
Bruh, RC been having em.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Zimmer on June 02, 2017, 02:02:57 PM
How do fools rock 101a? Slides around on parks, and feels every bump when it's rough. Can anyone explain, because I've never understood the appeal? 99a only for me.

Two words: Backside Powerslides. Sure, I can do them on 99s but without 101s I'd probably wouldn't have learnt them...

I also did my first BS slide on 101s. Also, I don't know how to explain it.. But 101s just feel good to ride. As long as the streets aren't too shitty, you feel like you roll faster, and being so connected to the pavement makes me feel more in control somehow.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on June 02, 2017, 02:12:40 PM
How do fools rock 101a? Slides around on parks, and feels every bump when it's rough. Can anyone explain, because I've never understood the appeal? 99a only for me.

Two words: Backside Powerslides. Sure, I can do them on 99s but without 101s I'd probably wouldn't have learnt them...

I also did my first BS slide on 101s. Also, I don't know how to explain it.. But 101s just feel good to ride. As long as the streets aren't too shitty, you feel like you roll faster, and being so connected to the pavement makes me feel more in control somehow.

I feel like the wider surface of conical fulls helps with shitty ground. I was hauling ass yesterday and I went so fast i got speed wobbles (on flat) and I have never felt as cool as that moment although I probably looked like an idiot
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on June 02, 2017, 03:24:40 PM
How do fools rock 101a? Slides around on parks, and feels every bump when it's rough. Can anyone explain, because I've never understood the appeal? 99a only for me.

Two words: Backside Powerslides. Sure, I can do them on 99s but without 101s I'd probably wouldn't have learnt them...

I also did my first BS slide on 101s. Also, I don't know how to explain it.. But 101s just feel good to ride. As long as the streets aren't too shitty, you feel like you roll faster, and being so connected to the pavement makes me feel more in control somehow.

I feel like the wider surface of conical fulls helps with shitty ground. I was hauling ass yesterday and I went so fast i got speed wobbles (on flat) and I have never felt as cool as that moment although I probably looked like an idiot
What does hauling ass have to do with wider wheels going over shitty ground.

I mean I do think wider wheels handle rough terrain better but I've also pushed this fast (see video below) down the street with spitfire classics and they were just fine.





2:39 to see the speed i was talking about.

Torey Pudwill's Big Bang (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk68G4GXN-k#)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tangar on June 08, 2017, 09:56:12 AM
(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af305/tangar07/skate%20stuff/AB4D72F2-7008-4B86-862A-F64BFD4507B7_zpsfrrnrqmw.jpg) (http://s1018.photobucket.com/user/tangar07/media/skate%20stuff/AB4D72F2-7008-4B86-862A-F64BFD4507B7_zpsfrrnrqmw.jpg.html)
(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af305/tangar07/skate%20stuff/B147F9D6-ED03-4A60-BBFB-BE04D75567EF_zpsa0blhpfx.jpg) (http://s1018.photobucket.com/user/tangar07/media/skate%20stuff/B147F9D6-ED03-4A60-BBFB-BE04D75567EF_zpsa0blhpfx.jpg.html)
Pulled the trigger on these even tho I wanted the slims. They feel way more stable than my classic slims I was just on. Almost to a point where the turning felt different. But I'll get used to them. Felt super grippy and fast albeit I only skated parking lot pavement for the first sesh. But I'm excited to break them in some more and see how they work out.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: OldManSkate on June 08, 2017, 02:12:21 PM
Anybody try Pusher Wheels before?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on June 08, 2017, 05:19:46 PM
How do fools rock 101a? Slides around on parks, and feels every bump when it's rough. Can anyone explain, because I've never understood the appeal? 99a only for me.

Two words: Backside Powerslides. Sure, I can do them on 99s but without 101s I'd probably wouldn't have learnt them...

I also did my first BS slide on 101s. Also, I don't know how to explain it.. But 101s just feel good to ride. As long as the streets aren't too shitty, you feel like you roll faster, and being so connected to the pavement makes me feel more in control somehow.

I feel like the wider surface of conical fulls helps with shitty ground. I was hauling ass yesterday and I went so fast i got speed wobbles (on flat) and I have never felt as cool as that moment although I probably looked like an idiot
What does hauling ass have to do with wider wheels going over shitty ground.

I mean I do think wider wheels handle rough terrain better but I've also pushed this fast (see video below) down the street with spitfire classics and they were just fine.

2:39 to see the speed i was talking about.


I feel like they both help you go over stuff, the speed helps you get over stuff. Like when you go slow you can fall over a crack and when you have speed you go over them. The wider surface helps compensate uneven ground.

It could honestly be the Spitfire marketing getting to me
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: art hellman on June 09, 2017, 08:06:45 AM
to me, wide wheels can get a lil wacky when you're sliding through lipslides and whatnot, whereas regular wheels you can 'direct' the slide direction/speed a lil more. 

I think of hockey skates vs. figure skates ... hockey skates are meant for control, but theyre not gonna put you on your ass from a dead stop, whereas figure skates allow someone to stop/turn on a dime. 

I'm no scientist though.

Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: JumpManShorty on June 12, 2017, 08:56:03 PM
I bought these spittys in Japan and had never seen the 101s with a green logo. It might be all in my head but they seem like a different formula? Catch a bit more on slides and tend to chip and shit. Can someone confirm there legit and rest my head?
(https://ibb.co/bX2Sna)

Edit: Fuck I dunno how to post the image from iPhone sorry guys
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Zimmer on June 12, 2017, 09:04:09 PM
I bought these spittys in Japan and had never seen the 101s with a green logo. It might be all in my head but they seem like a different formula? Catch a bit more on slides and tend to chip and shit. Can someone confirm there legit and rest my head?
(https://ibb.co/bX2Sna)

Edit: Fuck I dunno how to post the image from iPhone sorry guys

I've seen green logo'd spits before, I'm pretty sure they're real.. Have you ridden the conicals before? Could be why they feel different.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: kook nukem on June 12, 2017, 09:55:28 PM
Been using 56mm Spitfire 80HDs on my cruiser recently. Seriously perfect cruiser wheel. Soft enough for cushioning out the bumps, but not so soft it feels like a longboard. 56mm allows you to roll over some shit but still pop some ollies up curbs.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: JumpManShorty on June 12, 2017, 10:03:03 PM
I bought these spittys in Japan and had never seen the 101s with a green logo. It might be all in my head but they seem like a different formula? Catch a bit more on slides and tend to chip and shit. Can someone confirm there legit and rest my head?
(https://ibb.co/bX2Sna)

Edit: Fuck I dunno how to post the image from iPhone sorry guys

I've seen green logo'd spits before, I'm pretty sure they're real.. Have you ridden the conicals before? Could be why they feel different.

Ok cool. Yeah rode a red pair of conicals last time. My shit bearings probably don't help
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on June 12, 2017, 10:23:35 PM
Are there any differences in speed between wide/skinny wheels? My spitfire 99 f4s sometimes feel a little bit sluggish, could a different shape make a difference, what other wheels are known to be quite fast?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Paco Supreme on June 12, 2017, 10:39:54 PM
Been using 56mm Spitfire 80HDs on my cruiser recently. Seriously perfect cruiser wheel. Soft enough for cushioning out the bumps, but not so soft it feels like a longboard. 56mm allows you to roll over some shit but still pop some ollies up curbs.

Just watch the cores on them, i've seem plenty of people complaining in the past few months of spitfires soft wheels just falling apart
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Esquivel on June 13, 2017, 05:24:53 AM
Are there any differences in speed between wide/skinny wheels? My spitfire 99 f4s sometimes feel a little bit sluggish, could a different shape make a difference, what other wheels are known to be quite fast?

Rolling friction

This is commonly considered in engineering, a wider wheel tends to roll slower than a same diameter but thinner wheel would roll. This is why racing bikes have super thin wheels. Since skating is not done on super smooth surfaces only, skateboard wheels need to be a bit wide to compensate for ground imperfections.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: gsosa on June 14, 2017, 12:51:50 PM
I finally got around t skate some formula 4s (99a 54mm classics)  definitely the best wheel out, slide super well and have such a controlled slide but also grip really good and dont make me slip on parks.

Also, the best cruise/filmer wheels by far are the OJ keyframes, those wheels are light years ahead of other cruiser wheels
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on June 15, 2017, 03:57:32 AM
I finally got around t skate some formula 4s (99a 54mm classics)  definitely the best wheel out, slide super well and have such a controlled slide but also grip really good and dont make me slip on parks.

Also, the best cruise/filmer wheels by far are the OJ keyframes, those wheels are light years ahead of other cruiser wheels
I know I've said this before but if you like F4 Classics then maybe try Wayward slim cuts. I know it's a new brand and Spits are well known/good but these are good wheels. Made in the states and they feel very similar to formula 4s in both the slideability and the grip which is rare, at least to me. In my experience, wheels either feel a little more slippery than I'd like such as Bones STfs or too sticky like Rita NRGs (Please don't stone me Xen and/or Steve! Waywards and Formula 4s are the only wheels I've skated in recent memory that had a perfect balance. I just like way Waywards slide just a hair more.

The only real differences I can tell is that my Waywards seem easier to make slide at slower speeds but at higher speeds they seem to grip just as well formula 4s and these Waywards have a slightly  crisper slide where as the F4s are barkier.



So far the only thing I can see that would make these Waywards not perfect, other than a premature flatspot, is if the wheels turn to that nasty ass yellow color but if they continue to skate this good, then I couldn't give a shit!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on June 15, 2017, 08:24:32 AM
I finally got around t skate some formula 4s (99a 54mm classics)  definitely the best wheel out, slide super well and have such a controlled slide but also grip really good and dont make me slip on parks.

Also, the best cruise/filmer wheels by far are the OJ keyframes, those wheels are light years ahead of other cruiser wheels
I know I've said this before but if you like F4 Classics then maybe try Wayward slim cuts. I know it's a new brand and Spits are well known/good but these are good wheels. Made in the states and they feel very similar to formula 4s in both the slideability and the grip which is rare, at least to me. In my experience, wheels either feel a little more slippery than I'd like such as Bones STfs or too sticky like Rita NRGs (Please don't stone me Xen and/or Steve! Waywards and Formula 4s are the only wheels I've skated in recent memory that had a perfect balance. I just like way Waywards slide just a hair more.

The only real differences I can tell is that my Waywards seem easier to make slide at slower speeds but at higher speeds they seem to grip just as well formula 4s and these Waywards have a slightly  crisper slide where as the F4s are barkier.



So far the only thing I can see that would make these Waywards not perfect, other than a premature flatspot, is if the wheels turn to that nasty ass yellow color but if they continue to skate this good, then I couldn't give a shit!

I'm still riding my wayward slims, and agree they're right up there with F4s and they don't show signs of yellowing (a big deal for some people).
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: NJFly318 on June 26, 2017, 07:39:05 PM
Anyone have feedback on the Insane-a-thanes?
Heard good things from someone the other day but I haven't riden OJ's since the 90's.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: DaveFuck on June 26, 2017, 08:34:59 PM
Been using 56mm Spitfire 80HDs on my cruiser recently. Seriously perfect cruiser wheel. Soft enough for cushioning out the bumps, but not so soft it feels like a longboard. 56mm allows you to roll over some shit but still pop some ollies up curbs.

Just watch the cores on them, i've seem plenty of people complaining in the past few months of spitfires soft wheels just falling apart
I've seen it in person with a friend's set
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: danjtony on June 26, 2017, 09:39:33 PM
Anyone have feedback on the Insane-a-thanes?
Heard good things from someone the other day but I haven't riden OJ's since the 90's.

I tried the 99a. To me they felt similar to SPF's. Fast, hard, unforgiving on the streets, good slip-to-grip ratio. Just nowhere near as durable--mine were chipped bad within the first week and they coned way worse than other wheels.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: NJFly318 on June 26, 2017, 10:25:35 PM
Anyone have feedback on the Insane-a-thanes?
Heard good things from someone the other day but I haven't riden OJ's since the 90's.

I tried the 99a. To me they felt similar to SPF's. Fast, hard, unforgiving on the streets, good slip-to-grip ratio. Just nowhere near as durable--mine were chipped bad within the first week and they coned way worse than other wheels.

Doesn't sound good, I'll stick with F4's, thanks.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: TheLowerBack on June 27, 2017, 03:40:14 AM
Has anyone skated the Wayward 99 fulls?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on June 27, 2017, 08:24:31 AM
Anyone have feedback on the Insane-a-thanes?
Heard good things from someone the other day but I haven't riden OJ's since the 90's.

I tried the 99a. To me they felt similar to SPF's. Fast, hard, unforgiving on the streets, good slip-to-grip ratio. Just nowhere near as durable--mine were chipped bad within the first week and they coned way worse than other wheels.

Doesn't sound good, I'll stick with F4's, thanks.

I've only ridden the 101 insane-a-thanes, both the ez edge and hardline shape (the latter being my choice), I like them, especially in a park setting as noted above, they are unforgivingly fucking hard, super fast, slide and grip well. They feel like ricta chrome core urethane (but don't flatspot like they did) and feel totally opposite of the the 'US made OJs' which feel a bit softer, like F4s do compared to STF/SPFs.

I prefer to haul ass in a park setting and only hard wheels feel like the do the job. 53mm OJ hardlines insane-a-thane w/G3 bronsons feel way faster than 54mm spfs w/swiss six,
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: JumpManShorty on July 01, 2017, 07:08:18 PM
What do you guys recommend for a winter wheel? Rainy winter not Cali winter
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Zimmer on July 01, 2017, 08:38:54 PM
What do you guys recommend for a winter wheel? Rainy winter not Cali winter

99a F4s! Ridden them in the rain and cold plenty of times, they handle things just fine
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: perverted super otaku! on July 02, 2017, 06:14:56 AM
What do you guys recommend for a winter wheel? Rainy winter not Cali winter

99a F4s! Ridden them in the rain and cold plenty of times, they handle things just fine
100% agree, they perform really well in the cold compared to other wheels
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on July 03, 2017, 02:00:23 PM
I've only ridden the 101 insane-a-thanes, both the ez edge and hardline shape (the latter being my choice), I like them, especially in a park setting as noted above, they are unforgivingly fucking hard, super fast, slide and grip well. They feel like ricta chrome core urethane (but don't flatspot like they did) and feel totally opposite of the the 'US made OJs' which feel a bit softer, like F4s do compared to STF/SPFs.

I prefer to haul ass in a park setting and only hard wheels feel like the do the job. 53mm OJ hardlines insane-a-thane w/G3 bronsons feel way faster than 54mm spfs w/swiss six,

I really liked the Insane a Thane feel more than the 'normal' OJ compound, whatever the heck that is called.

To your point about unforgiving hard, just for shits and giggles I bought a set of Autobahn price points (I totally forget what they're called but they're thin shaped) and they felt like the hardest wheel I've ever skated. And slide for days...it felt like I was skating on banana peels wrapped around my wheels.

There are so many more wheel options than just Spitfire. Everyone gets so locked into one way of thinking. If Spitfires work for you, that's rad! But there are so many great choices right now on the market. I get that most of them are coming from the same urethane shop but I still go out of my way to not buy Spitfire wheels.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Mr.Squarepants on July 03, 2017, 04:16:43 PM
I wish so dearly that DLX made 60mm+ F4s. Can anybody recommend a bigger wheel that slides as well as an F4 or even close
 to it?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on July 03, 2017, 04:29:28 PM
I wish so dearly that DLX made 60mm+ F4s. Can anybody recommend a bigger wheel that slides as well as an F4 or even close
 to it?

It's not 60mm+ but the 55mm waywards are going to be your best bet.

https://www.waywardwheels.com/collections/wheels/products/pinnacle-wheel-brophy-55 (https://www.waywardwheels.com/collections/wheels/products/pinnacle-wheel-brophy-55)

PEople hate on them, but regular formula OJs aren't half bad; I find them to feel slow, exactly the same feeling I get when skating F4s or Waywards (I like crazy hard wheels).
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Zimmer on July 03, 2017, 04:34:25 PM
I've got some 58mm 99a F4s, that pretty close!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on July 03, 2017, 04:35:41 PM
I've got some 58mm 99a F4s, that pretty close!

That's the ticket:

58 MM 99a F4s Lance Mountain Lifers (https://shop.ccs.com/spitfire-f4-99-lance-mountain-lifers-skateboard-wheels-58mm?gclid=CjwKCAjw1ufKBRBYEiwAPI_r4RrwEJfl8CeoKuxWDDxFGYE3wLWySHDUBoM1rOei01VSs0fXUgEyqhoCnD0QAvD_BwE)

60mm F4 99a Classics  (http://www.tactics.com/spitfire/formula-four-classic-skateboard-wheels/white-99d)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Mr.Squarepants on July 03, 2017, 05:05:21 PM
^ Been on those for a while, hoping it's not as good as it gets but it might be
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on July 07, 2017, 04:07:09 PM
Hey is it me or do bearing spacers slow you down ? They silent the roll but make your wheels slower.

Went back to try my favorite spit classic 99a this time without bearing spacers and they rolled way smoother and faster.

I think the hype on spacers was only with the race reds
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Zimmer on July 07, 2017, 05:45:32 PM
Hey is it me or do bearing spacers slow you down ? They silent the roll but make your wheels slower.

Went back to try my favorite spit classic 99a this time without bearing spacers and they rolled way smoother and faster.

I think the hype on spacers was only with the race reds

Spacers are for longboarders who regularly go past 60mph.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: DaSk8D00D on July 07, 2017, 05:54:18 PM
Hey is it me or do bearing spacers slow you down ? They silent the roll but make your wheels slower.

Went back to try my favorite spit classic 99a this time without bearing spacers and they rolled way smoother and faster.

I think the hype on spacers was only with the race reds

Spacers are for longboarders who regularly go past 60mph.

Spacers play a big part in getting optimal performance out of your bearings dont play yourselves by not using them (http://www.thecoli.com/data/emoticons/1/c5f9a02b3df4ea2d43c0f94ac9fded9b.png?t=1453393121)

https://stokedskateboards.com/knowledge-base/why-bearing-spacers-really-matter.html (https://stokedskateboards.com/knowledge-base/why-bearing-spacers-really-matter.html)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on July 07, 2017, 07:48:23 PM
Hey is it me or do bearing spacers slow you down ? They silent the roll but make your wheels slower.

Went back to try my favorite spit classic 99a this time without bearing spacers and they rolled way smoother and faster.

I think the hype on spacers was only with the race reds

Spacers are for longboarders who regularly go past 60mph.

Spacers play a big part in getting optimal performance out of your bearings dont play yourselves by not using them (http://www.thecoli.com/data/emoticons/1/c5f9a02b3df4ea2d43c0f94ac9fded9b.png?t=1453393121)

https://stokedskateboards.com/knowledge-base/why-bearing-spacers-really-matter.html (https://stokedskateboards.com/knowledge-base/why-bearing-spacers-really-matter.html)

Every example pic used a longboard wheel,

Point to zimmer
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: jums on July 07, 2017, 08:01:19 PM
from s and b

"Spacers allow you to avoid torsional load that causes bearings to blow out or seize. They also aid in keeping the bearings true for ultimate performance which also means they will last longer as they are not being subjected to undue stresses."

"Everyone who knows what a spacer does uses them. I always use them. They also help keep your bearings from unseating?if the spacer is the correct dimensions. "

That said I have never had an issue with my bearings since I started using spacers 12 years ago, but prior to... my bearings never lasted one month.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: max power on July 07, 2017, 09:37:48 PM
Spacers are the truth.

Been riding OJ's regular formula 99 and 101. I like them. I like Spitfire F4 too, just felt like a change. OJ's have great shapes.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Roisto on July 07, 2017, 11:09:38 PM
from s and b

"Spacers allow you to avoid torsional load that causes bearings to blow out or seize. They also aid in keeping the bearings true for ultimate performance which also means they will last longer as they are not being subjected to undue stresses."

"Everyone who knows what a spacer does uses them. I always use them. They also help keep your bearings from unseating?if the spacer is the correct dimensions. "

That said I have never had an issue with my bearings since I started using spacers 12 years ago, but prior to... my bearings never lasted one month.

Truth
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: IHOP on July 09, 2017, 12:38:09 AM
Did anybody catch those a-symmetrical wheels Jim Thiebaud had on his insta story the other day?  Half conical Half straight/flat cut, were nicknamed "lock-ins" and said they were coming out to shops soon.  Don't know how I feel about it, anybody ever skated (not just cruised) a-symmetrical wheels?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: silhouette on July 09, 2017, 06:17:10 AM
i've been skating the 54mm version of those for most of the year : https://consumestore.com/product/pillo-wheel-gang-deep-gurners-52mm-and-54mm

i don't know how familiar people on here might be with pillo wheels, they're a really small operation out of (old, not new) jersey, the british islands sandwiched in between the uk and france - luka pinto and glen fox ride for them, so maybe some of you will recognize the logo.

from the perspective of someone usually inclined toward spitfire wheels & bones stf's, i have to say those have been great to me. a lot of the spots and streets i skate are quite rough (old europe type of rough), despite which i usually stick to the hardest wheels i can find because i like doing reverts and lipslides and, instead, resort to larger wheels (54-56mm) in order to make up for the discomfort on the rough ground. those particular pillo's have some extra width which made everything feel a lot smoother in those regards. they slide less than the 101a's i'm generally used to, but perform well still, feeling more like 99a's (especially after some wear).

not many people skate those wheels (apparently the whole jersey scene is like 10 skaters) but seeing as some rad underground dudes rep them, i reckoned some of you might have seen the name float around in videos and the like, so i thought i'd comment on what the product is like.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Mark Renton on July 09, 2017, 10:22:09 AM
Are Bones 54mm OG 100's V4 Wheels (100A) good for skating a bit of everything (mostly rugged)? I don't know shit about wheels specs and I just don't want to spend 40+ pounds.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: roba on July 09, 2017, 03:41:38 PM
any opinions on pig wheels? i found some for cheap, thinking about getting them but i'm not sure
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Paco Supreme on July 09, 2017, 03:58:40 PM
Did anybody catch those a-symmetrical wheels Jim Thiebaud had on his insta story the other day?  Half conical Half straight/flat cut, were nicknamed "lock-ins" and said they were coming out to shops soon.  Don't know how I feel about it, anybody ever skated (not just cruised) a-symmetrical wheels?

So they're making F4 versions of these?
(https://www.skaterhq.com.au/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/650x650/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/5/151371_1_1.jpg)

If they're as wide as conical fulls i'd give them a shot
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: IHOP on July 09, 2017, 08:35:05 PM
Did anybody catch those a-symmetrical wheels Jim Thiebaud had on his insta story the other day?  Half conical Half straight/flat cut, were nicknamed "lock-ins" and said they were coming out to shops soon.  Don't know how I feel about it, anybody ever skated (not just cruised) a-symmetrical wheels?

So they're making F4 versions of these?
(https://www.skaterhq.com.au/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/650x650/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/5/151371_1_1.jpg)

If they're as wide as conical fulls i'd give them a shot

Yea looked like that, graphic was sick it was a half swirl with "LOCK-INS" in old english, red and black
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on July 09, 2017, 10:19:45 PM
Did anybody catch those a-symmetrical wheels Jim Thiebaud had on his insta story the other day?  Half conical Half straight/flat cut, were nicknamed "lock-ins" and said they were coming out to shops soon.  Don't know how I feel about it, anybody ever skated (not just cruised) a-symmetrical wheels?

So they're making F4 versions of these?
(https://www.skaterhq.com.au/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/650x650/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/5/151371_1_1.jpg)

If they're as wide as conical fulls i'd give them a shot

Yea looked like that, graphic was sick it was a half swirl with "LOCK-INS" in old english, red and black
Old shape, better graphic on it...sorry for size
(https://classicskateshop1.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/sf-cat-spring12-2-8.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on July 10, 2017, 01:52:31 AM
any opinions on pig wheels? i found some for cheap, thinking about getting them but i'm not sure

Pigs are like a harder spit classic I feel. They have that feel like a classic but some some hardness that isn't that good feeling and is only there for durability. Cause you know flat spots and harder wheels are supposed to be faster


Bones 100 are ok but I wouldn't say they're worth it. Oddly I prefer mini logo over bones 100. They aren't the same formula even though they're both pp wheels from skate one. Mini logo feel almost exactly like a spit classic while bones 100 feel like a standard hard wheel with grip.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: LennyDLXSF on July 10, 2017, 08:33:42 AM
I wish so dearly that DLX made 60mm+ F4s. Can anybody recommend a bigger wheel that slides as well as an F4 or even close
 to it?

We make F499 Classic Shape in 60mm!!

Email me please, [email protected]
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: sharkin on July 10, 2017, 08:45:36 AM
idk about asymmetrical wheels

I have a tendency to flip them now and again so they don't cone out.

I do kinda like the idea of having two ways to run the same pair of wheels though
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: FrenchFriedClownFingers on July 10, 2017, 12:37:16 PM
the wheels i have on my cruiser are the bones rough riders i love them but the plastic core is starting to come apart. its been a year so i guess that's understandable but i'd like to find a wheel much like the rough rider but without the fused plastic core. any suggestions?

for my main board i ride bones stf v3 50mm and i love them but i flatspotted them reverting a 180 off a ramp

Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on July 16, 2017, 08:09:49 AM
Would it make sense to do a wheelshop thread?  How many factories are making wheels....how different are the formulas?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: DaSk8D00D on July 16, 2017, 09:36:20 AM
Would it make sense to do a wheelshop thread?  How many factories are making wheels....how different are the formulas?

Would be interesting to see which brands come from the same factories. Crupie claims they can offer a premium wheel at a lower cost than other brands because they obtain everything straight from the source. I wonder if that same factory is doing other brands too and how much of an actual difference there is between the smaller wheel brands. Bones & spitfire obviously have their own formulas and all the marketing for them but do you guys think that there's other wheels out that are more or less the same formulas just with different branding?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Zimmer on July 16, 2017, 09:41:55 AM
Would it make sense to do a wheelshop thread?  How many factories are making wheels....how different are the formulas?

Would be interesting to see which brands come from the same factories. Crupie claims they can offer a premium wheel at a lower cost than other brands because they obtain everything straight from the source. I wonder if that same factory is doing other brands too and how much of an actual difference there is between the smaller wheel brands. Bones & spitfire obviously have their own formulas and all the marketing for them but do you guys think that there's other wheels out that are more or less the same formulas just with different branding?

There can't be more than four or five big formulas (not counting all the price-point type stuff). Bones, spitfire, ricta, OJ, Powell.. All seem pretty distinct.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on July 16, 2017, 01:09:32 PM
Don't forget about the worlds greatest urethane from wreck wheels, backed by testing in every category except the sales category.

So far formula fours are taking the market with bones second and OJ on the rise and ricta then maybe croupie or sml or whoever I'm forgetting
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on July 16, 2017, 04:38:59 PM
I remember being convinced satoris were the best....those Ipaths went straight to my head....like when people on here say prize fighters! Small!  Autobahn!  They don't have their own factory and I bet there are only a few.....who's got the knowledge? 
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on July 16, 2017, 05:20:28 PM
J Soy - I'd love to know that myself. With as much into the smaller wheel cos as I am, I don't know how many urethane shops there really are. My guess is not many.

There also seems to be some variation within the same company. I had a set of SML Garcia wides that were like skating on banana peels then I had SML Knox V-Cut that were like skating on soft bubblegum, and both were listed as 99A.

Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rathernotwalk on July 16, 2017, 06:12:05 PM
Trying out some speedlab 56 mm 97a side cut (ace pelka model)
Pretty grippy but slide surprisingly well. About as forgiving as stf on rough terrain, but without that rock hard plastic feeling.
I'll try and remember to mention how they do on some slick tranny, if my wrist ever fucking heals.
Really disappointed in how quick my spf clears are wearing down, is that just the clear or are the white formula more resistant?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on July 16, 2017, 06:35:47 PM
I swear this was already in this thread, it's dated but some is still good to go by:

and the updated list:
AEND pours:
abec11
neversummer
newer/some sector9
3dm/seismic
comet
ultra (rollerblade wheels)
bennett
BDS


Labeda pours:
earthwing purethane, and black 76 and 66 superballs
dregs
the new landyachtz hawgs
oust wheels
bustin
GFH
Loaded/Otang
some Lush
new gravity wheels
System Martin wheels (TLS)

Creative Urethane
rainskates
earthwing slide a's
autobahn
lush
sk8kings
manx/pps
poolking
tunnel
conspiracy
Speedlab
PPS
Skaterbuilt
NHS
Cowboy Punk
Better
Deathbox
Foundation
Toy Machine
Chetah
Black Label
Madrid

Bravo Corp
gravity
kryptonics
landyachtz
some sector 9
Xero wheels (italian brand)
(all 8mm race cores)
Pig
Senate
World Industries wheels
Barbie/Spongebob/Dora and other character boards

Mearthane
Road Rider
OJ
Ricta
Bullet
Crime
Madrid

Moska
moska
viking (european wheels)

Electric Urethane (from Australia)
Coretech
Electro
Pointblank

In-House Pours
Spitfire
Powell/Surf One
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Julz on July 16, 2017, 06:57:20 PM
add polar, plan b, element  and 90% of all deck brands to creative
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Dr. Octagon on July 16, 2017, 07:32:42 PM
add SML to AEND.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on July 16, 2017, 09:40:27 PM
Does anyone know how good is Bones with their warranties for stfs? Got a pretty noticeable flatspot that I can't seem to get rid of. Only the third session on these too.

(https://preview.ibb.co/mmVGCv/20138144_1438556876198400_219263978_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: franquietits on July 17, 2017, 12:23:09 AM
^I was able to get a set of atf's replaced for me, after having them for over a year. A chunk came out of the wheel somehow. I sent them in, they sent some new ones back. The whole process took about a month or longer. U just have to inquire about it online & wait for a response (or call customer service?).
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on July 17, 2017, 12:47:32 AM
^I was able to get a set of atf's replaced for me, after having them for over a year. A chunk came out of the wheel somehow. I sent them in, they sent some new ones back. The whole process took about a month or longer. U just have to inquire about it online & wait for a response (or call customer service?).

Good to know, thank you. Sent in an inquiry via their website so hopefully all works out well.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on July 17, 2017, 10:03:40 PM
I remember being convinced satoris were the best....those Ipaths went straight to my head....like when people on here say prize fighters! Small!
haha, I had a good laugh at I-paths going to your head. PFC are decent wheels though. Funny story about them; my wife has a set of them on her board that I used to rock and it seems like they've gotten really sticky with age. I tried to power slide on them the other day and nearly ate shit so hard
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: jums on July 18, 2017, 04:44:59 AM
Spitfire....

Please tell me the 101 58mm Conical Full F4 is still in production because I can't find them anywhere on the net or at my local brick and mortar.

Any chance I can buy them direct?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Nora9 on July 18, 2017, 06:14:03 AM
i like rictas not sure why
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Nora9 on July 18, 2017, 06:14:32 AM
maybbe cuz they are flat and soft like me
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on July 18, 2017, 09:06:41 AM
Does anyone know how good is Bones with their warranties for stfs? Got a pretty noticeable flatspot that I can't seem to get rid of. Only the third session on these too.

(https://preview.ibb.co/mmVGCv/20138144_1438556876198400_219263978_o.jpg)

They are pretty good when it comes to replacements, I got a flat blunt sliding on some V5s when they first rolled out and they replaced them in short order (albeit a smaller size).
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: calvinsdream on July 18, 2017, 11:33:27 AM
Spitfire....

Please tell me the 101 58mm Conical Full F4 is still in production because I can't find them anywhere on the net or at my local brick and mortar.

Any chance I can buy them direct?

That was never a size that existed as far as I know.

Biggest 101 is 58mm, but the classic shape.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: jums on July 18, 2017, 01:03:31 PM
Spitfire....

Please tell me the 101 58mm Conical Full F4 is still in production because I can't find them anywhere on the net or at my local brick and mortar.

Any chance I can buy them direct?

That was never a size that existed as far as I know.

Biggest 101 is 58mm, but the classic shape.

nah

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0270/0309/products/375_large.jpg?v=1455845720)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: calvinsdream on July 18, 2017, 03:08:56 PM
Spitfire....

Please tell me the 101 58mm Conical Full F4 is still in production because I can't find them anywhere on the net or at my local brick and mortar.

Any chance I can buy them direct?

That was never a size that existed as far as I know.

Biggest 101 is 58mm, but the classic shape.

nah

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0270/0309/products/375_large.jpg?v=1455845720)

I always figured that was just for the 99s. Have you ever seen a set of 101 conical full 58s in person, or even available anywhere, ever?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: N.L. on July 18, 2017, 04:59:11 PM
Tactics had them for awhile.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on July 22, 2017, 12:30:25 PM
Any one try the spitfire mike Anderson sfw 2's? Really interested in giving them a go.

http://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_Anderson_SFW_2_Wheels/descpage-SFAS2WH.html (http://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_Anderson_SFW_2_Wheels/descpage-SFAS2WH.html)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: VCR on July 22, 2017, 01:13:21 PM
Pretty much a classic Spitfire just a different shape.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: TwisT on July 24, 2017, 07:27:48 AM
I'm looking for a slim colored wheel in 53-54mm (pinkish or tealish)

I like the ricta speed rings and bones SPF.

I like these, but I think I want thinner wheels.
http://bones.com/bones-spf-pro-miller-owl-54x31-p5-skateboard-wheel-84b-4pk-yellow (http://bones.com/bones-spf-pro-miller-owl-54x31-p5-skateboard-wheel-84b-4pk-yellow)

suggestions?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Roisto on July 24, 2017, 07:33:18 AM
I'm looking for a slim colored wheel in 53-54mm (pinkish or tealish)

I like the ricta speed rings and bones SPF.

I like these, but I think I want thinner wheels.
http://bones.com/bones-spf-pro-miller-owl-54x31-p5-skateboard-wheel-84b-4pk-yellow (http://bones.com/bones-spf-pro-miller-owl-54x31-p5-skateboard-wheel-84b-4pk-yellow)

suggestions?

http://www.tactics.com/spitfire/formula-four-radial-slims-skateboard-wheels/snake-bites-mint-black-swirl-101d (http://www.tactics.com/spitfire/formula-four-radial-slims-skateboard-wheels/snake-bites-mint-black-swirl-101d)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: TwisT on July 24, 2017, 08:21:02 AM
I'm looking for a slim colored wheel in 53-54mm (pinkish or tealish)

I like the ricta speed rings and bones SPF.

I like these, but I think I want thinner wheels.
http://bones.com/bones-spf-pro-miller-owl-54x31-p5-skateboard-wheel-84b-4pk-yellow (http://bones.com/bones-spf-pro-miller-owl-54x31-p5-skateboard-wheel-84b-4pk-yellow)

suggestions?

ordered

http://www.tactics.com/spitfire/formula-four-radial-slims-skateboard-wheels/snake-bites-mint-black-swirl-101d (http://www.tactics.com/spitfire/formula-four-radial-slims-skateboard-wheels/snake-bites-mint-black-swirl-101d)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: ChuckRamone on July 30, 2017, 10:33:44 AM
anyone tried the oj mini elites 95a? I set them up on my cruiser and I think I finally found a good wheel for that. they slide and are a little softer than regular wheels but harder than your typical cruiser type wheel. I figured out I can't deal with soft wheels of any kind - don't like having foot braking as my only option for slowing down and hate the feeling and wheelbite of super soft wheels. these are pretty much perfect for a cruiser if you're the same way.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Rick Sanchez on July 30, 2017, 02:38:50 PM
Anyone tried out jk industries wheels? Any good? Last 4/5 sets of wheels have been different incarnations of spit f4's so thinking of trying some other shit that ive never had before
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: danjtony on July 31, 2017, 12:23:23 AM
anyone tried the oj mini elites 95a? I set them up on my cruiser and I think I finally found a good wheel for that. they slide and are a little softer than regular wheels but harder than your typical cruiser type wheel. I figured out I can't deal with soft wheels of any kind - don't like having foot braking as my only option for slowing down and hate the feeling and wheelbite of super soft wheels. these are pretty much perfect for a cruiser if you're the same way.

You get a chance to try em out at the skatepark? I'm looking for an indoor park wheel that's grippy but not too sluggish.

But yeah, I hate super soft wheels too, wouldn't mind getting some of these just to skate crusty spots. I had some Mini-Logo 90a wheels for this purpose, but they needed too much riser cause when they bit, they gripped hard.   
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: ChuckRamone on August 02, 2017, 09:55:50 PM
anyone tried the oj mini elites 95a? I set them up on my cruiser and I think I finally found a good wheel for that. they slide and are a little softer than regular wheels but harder than your typical cruiser type wheel. I figured out I can't deal with soft wheels of any kind - don't like having foot braking as my only option for slowing down and hate the feeling and wheelbite of super soft wheels. these are pretty much perfect for a cruiser if you're the same way.

You get a chance to try em out at the skatepark? I'm looking for an indoor park wheel that's grippy but not too sluggish.

But yeah, I hate super soft wheels too, wouldn't mind getting some of these just to skate crusty spots. I had some Mini-Logo 90a wheels for this purpose, but they needed too much riser cause when they bit, they gripped hard.   

I don't skate parks very often but they are really good so far on regular asphalt and concrete. I saw some reviews online where people liked them for parks and bowls as well as street.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on August 02, 2017, 10:05:48 PM
Does anybody know how SPFs handle on shitty street terrain and bluntslide tricks on ledges compared to STFs?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: danjtony on August 02, 2017, 11:45:03 PM
They're pretty much a hard, fast park wheel that grips when you need em to. I ride them on all terrain, but they don't slide as well as STF or F4's. Also stick a bit on tail slides, lipslides, etc. personally I like that they're a little more difficult to slide, cause I like my wheels to squeal a bit.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Randozzi on August 04, 2017, 12:39:26 AM
Was recently gifted some Spitfire 53mm 92s, might set them up to see how much of a difference they make on some of the spots around here.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rathernotwalk on August 04, 2017, 07:24:34 PM
anyone tried the oj mini elites 95a? I set them up on my cruiser and I think I finally found a good wheel for that. they slide and are a little softer than regular wheels but harder than your typical cruiser type wheel. I figured out I can't deal with soft wheels of any kind - don't like having foot braking as my only option for slowing down and hate the feeling and wheelbite of super soft wheels. these are pretty much perfect for a cruiser if you're the same way.

You get a chance to try em out at the skatepark? I'm looking for an indoor park wheel that's grippy but not too sluggish.

But yeah, I hate super soft wheels too, wouldn't mind getting some of these just to skate crusty spots. I had some Mini-Logo 90a wheels for this purpose, but they needed too much riser cause when they bit, they gripped hard.   

I've got some speedlab 97a on one of my setups right now and on rough stuff it's a little sluggish but for the more slippery parks they feel real similar to f4s with a little more grip
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Buck Russell on August 04, 2017, 10:55:12 PM
sorry if this has been covered (i scanned back a few pages and didn't see anything) but what's up w/ wayward's factory? i heard they're actually really good and made in carolina or something but haven't heard anything confirmed.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: jamersonbass on August 05, 2017, 08:41:40 AM
sorry if this has been covered (i scanned back a few pages and didn't see anything) but what's up w/ wayward's factory? i heard they're actually really good and made in carolina or something but haven't heard anything confirmed.

I'm curious about this too.  I know a couple people have weighed in, but has anyone on here been skating Wayward's and how do you like them? Been on F4's the last 4 years and Wayward's are the only non-F4 wheel that have piqued my interest.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: perverted super otaku! on August 11, 2017, 08:20:21 AM
They're pretty much a hard, fast park wheel that grips when you need em to. I ride them on all terrain, but they don't slide as well as STF or F4's. Also stick a bit on tail slides, lipslides, etc. personally I like that they're a little more difficult to slide, cause I like my wheels to squeal a bit.
SPF's are sick on street, pretty sure I accomplished my longest hill bomb powerslide ever on a set, shit felt cool as fuck
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on August 12, 2017, 01:17:24 AM
They're pretty much a hard, fast park wheel that grips when you need em to. I ride them on all terrain, but they don't slide as well as STF or F4's. Also stick a bit on tail slides, lipslides, etc. personally I like that they're a little more difficult to slide, cause I like my wheels to squeal a bit.
SPF's are sick on street, pretty sure I accomplished my longest hill bomb powerslide ever on a set, shit felt cool as fuck

They're designed for super nice ground aren't they? How are they on shit ground, how would you compare them to stfs/f4s if you've had them? Not sliding well on ledges sounds like a bummer though
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: danjtony on August 12, 2017, 02:14:13 AM
I guess I wouldn't even say that they don't slide well. Just relative to those other two wheels, they aren't as smooth. For me, I just have to skate a bit faster for tail slides and shit of that nature. Their "stickiness" is hard to explain. Like, it's not a soft wheel grip or anything, but I feel really confident carving around transition on them. Between that and how fast they are, they're the perfect wheel for me. If I was skating rough shit more exclusively, I'd probably ride f4's or stf.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Pigeon on August 12, 2017, 09:05:52 AM
They're pretty much a hard, fast park wheel that grips when you need em to. I ride them on all terrain, but they don't slide as well as STF or F4's. Also stick a bit on tail slides, lipslides, etc. personally I like that they're a little more difficult to slide, cause I like my wheels to squeal a bit.
SPF's are sick on street, pretty sure I accomplished my longest hill bomb powerslide ever on a set, shit felt cool as fuck

They're designed for super nice ground aren't they? How are they on shit ground, how would you compare them to stfs/f4s if you've had them? Not sliding well on ledges sounds like a bummer though
How easily, and how many can you fit in your anus, though?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on August 12, 2017, 08:25:03 PM
SPF=hard but sticky....yet still slide. They are made for California skateparks which are smooth and slippery.....

I skate em on street too because somehow the stickiness makes them feel softer.....

Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: N.L. on August 13, 2017, 09:14:02 AM
I don't know how you guys enjoy SPF on street. It didn't feel like skateboarding to me. Teeth Chattering displeasure my end. Amazing in new smooth parks though- agreed. 
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Clang on August 21, 2017, 06:58:19 AM
Anyone here skate sml wheels? Are they good? How do they compare to F4s? Does anything compare to F4s?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: gumi on August 21, 2017, 03:18:33 PM
Anyone here skate sml wheels? Are they good? How do they compare to F4s? Does anything compare to F4s?

Wayward, from what I have heard
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: colt cannon lunchbox on August 22, 2017, 10:37:37 PM
Has anyone skated anyone of the Type S 98a wheels? I wanna try something a bit smoother than a 99 but not quite a cruiser wheel.

Would there even be much of a difference in 1 durometer anyway?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Matthew_James on August 23, 2017, 10:51:11 AM
Anyone here skate sml wheels? Are they good? How do they compare to F4s? Does anything compare to F4s?

Wayward, from what I have heard

I've never heard anything good about Wayward.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Roisto on August 23, 2017, 01:05:45 PM
F4s aren't white to begin with...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: JusticeAbberdash on August 23, 2017, 04:31:36 PM
I actually prefer the colour of well used F4s.

Has anyone skated anyone of the Type S 98a wheels? I wanna try something a bit smoother than a 99 but not quite a cruiser wheel.

Would there even be much of a difference in 1 durometer anyway?

I don't think you'd feel much of a difference, If you want something between a street and cruiser wheel I'd recommend OJ's 92a ditch witch. I don't really ride them very often, but I like the feel. Ricta has 92a clouds too but I haven't tried them.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on August 23, 2017, 04:49:19 PM
I would suck three dicks of Ricta started making 53mm Park Crushers again.

THREE OF THEM.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on August 23, 2017, 04:52:38 PM
Has anyone skated anyone of the Type S 98a wheels? I wanna try something a bit smoother than a 99 but not quite a cruiser wheel.

Would there even be much of a difference in 1 durometer anyway?

Absolutely have. I loved Type S wheels. Even tho they were all vert dudes, the wheels were great on any terrain. Really well made. If you look at the first page of this thread I had the 96 and they were just a little too grippy for my tastes. Not "soft" at all, just smooth/grippy. The 98s were perfect. Where are you finding Type S wheels? I thought they closed up. Most of those dudes ride for Alta now.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on August 23, 2017, 08:49:11 PM
I would suck three dicks of Ricta started making 53mm Park Crushers again.

THREE OF THEM.

I loved my 55mm crushers until I flatted them at a park, such a fast, hard wheel.

Rictas problem is they rotate out wheels types too fast...speed rings, gone (tho they lasted a while), pro designed are gone in favor of pro natural nrgs and old sparx are gone, for new sparx....crushers became scorpions (wtf) only to vanish....slix are dumb and crome cores seem to only exist because nyjah skates them...

Been eyeing the D.Loy 53 naturals for a minute...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: colt cannon lunchbox on August 24, 2017, 01:03:23 AM
Has anyone skated anyone of the Type S 98a wheels? I wanna try something a bit smoother than a 99 but not quite a cruiser wheel.

Would there even be much of a difference in 1 durometer anyway?

Absolutely have. I loved Type S wheels. Even tho they were all vert dudes, the wheels were great on any terrain. Really well made. If you look at the first page of this thread I had the 96 and they were just a little too grippy for my tastes. Not "soft" at all, just smooth/grippy. The 98s were perfect. Where are you finding Type S wheels? I thought they closed up. Most of those dudes ride for Alta now.

https://www.ocdskateshop.com.au/shop/wheels/wheels-by-brand/type-s.html (https://www.ocdskateshop.com.au/shop/wheels/wheels-by-brand/type-s.html)

This aussie site has a few sets im pretty interested in the bastien wheel as i know its pretty rare to get wheels that are both small and softer than a 99.

I pretty much just wanna be able to ride on the road (which can be pretty rough out here) or skate tranny without being scared of slipping out

I will probably get them in the coming weeks if i can't come across the oj's mentioned above
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on August 24, 2017, 04:22:10 AM
I would suck three dicks of Ricta started making 53mm Park Crushers again.

THREE OF THEM.

I loved my 55mm crushers until I flatted them at a park, such a fast, hard wheel.

Rictas problem is they rotate out wheels types too fast...speed rings, gone (tho they lasted a while), pro designed are gone in favor of pro natural nrgs and old sparx are gone, for new sparx....crushers became scorpions (wtf) only to vanish....slix are dumb and crome cores seem to only exist because nyjah skates them...

Been eyeing the D.Loy 53 naturals for a minute...
They change their wheel selection more than I change my shirt. Those Loy and Black Johnson wheels both look like they're a pretty similiar shape. I'm only concerned if the hardness would match up since they went from calling them 84b to 101a and I'm generally a broke ass bitch. If you're gonna start using the god damn B scale on your wheels don't pussy out and keep using the damn B scale!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: bea! on August 25, 2017, 10:38:32 AM
Quick question...

Any of you guys like riding wheels that are a tad softer than the usual 99/101's?

I was thinking the other day how much I used to like spitfire parkburners, which were 97/98 I believe.

Are there any wheels out there that are comparable to that? I know Skull sells 97's which look pretty rad
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on August 25, 2017, 10:51:51 AM
SML makes a 97 Aaron Herrington wheel I've been tempted to buy multiple times.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on August 25, 2017, 04:57:29 PM
Quick question...

Any of you guys like riding wheels that are a tad softer than the usual 99/101's?

I was thinking the other day how much I used to like spitfire parkburners, which were 97/98 I believe.

Are there any wheels out there that are comparable to that? I know Skull sells 97's which look pretty rad

Nope, I need wheels as hard as rocks. I just rotated out my waywards to F4s (both claim 101a but they feel much softer), then F4s to bones stf (83b) and then finally bones to my old ass 99a rictas.

The 99a rictas felt much harder than all the above, chirped the loudest. The waywards and f4s felt sticky grippy, rictas grippy and stfs in between. Waiting for a sale to grab some of the 101 rictas.

I would suck three dicks of Ricta started making 53mm Park Crushers again.

THREE OF THEM.

I loved my 55mm crushers until I flatted them at a park, such a fast, hard wheel.

Rictas problem is they rotate out wheels types too fast...speed rings, gone (tho they lasted a while), pro designed are gone in favor of pro natural nrgs and old sparx are gone, for new sparx....crushers became scorpions (wtf) only to vanish....slix are dumb and crome cores seem to only exist because nyjah skates them...

Been eyeing the D.Loy 53 naturals for a minute...
They change their wheel selection more than I change my shirt. Those Loy and Black Johnson wheels both look like they're a pretty similiar shape. I'm only concerned if the hardness would match up since they went from calling them 84b to 101a and I'm generally a broke ass bitch. If you're gonna start using the god damn B scale on your wheels don't pussy out and keep using the damn B scale!

My guess is the b scale is too complicated for some to wrap their heads around, either that or they adjusted the formula and they are a true 101 instead of 103/104 or whatever the fuck b to a translates too; but, naturals have been their mainstay and always been on the 'a' scale. They let their marketing teams have too much control I think :P

I'm going to guess the pro naturals are going to stick around for a while...at least until the <pro natural nrg speed ring crystal duo tones> come out :P

Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: doublesteveburger on August 26, 2017, 05:45:35 PM
Debating on getting some SPF's on sale but don't know how they compare to STF's.
Also, anyone ever try Oj's 101a's?


Currently riding some Bones 100's but they're grippy as fuck and I miss power-slides.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on August 27, 2017, 10:02:10 PM
Debating on getting some SPF's on sale but don't know how they compare to STF's.
Also, anyone ever try Oj's 101a's?


Currently riding some Bones 100's but they're grippy as fuck and I miss power-slides.

SPFs are grippier and harder feeling than STFs, different formula; personally SPFs are for park only.

101 OJs (regular formula), feel like F4s but without the easy f4 slide, they're pretty grippy, just got to push into those slides - good for rough streets/all terrain.

101 OJs (insane-a-thane), feel like Ricta chrome cores/Park crushers, hard as nails but a wee bit chalky (I love'em); they fit right in between SPFs and STFs for me, pretty damn hard on rough streets tho.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on August 29, 2017, 04:44:29 AM
How are SML?s. Slow, fast, grippy, slick etc..., how do they compare to both formula fours and arcs x and do they have different shapes or just a standards STFs.


I can get a cheap set but want to know what I?d be getting lol




Also if anyone ants to know my Waywards are stillpretty much  fucking perfect and ed to yellow whatsoever. Unless I decide to get these Sml?s I don?t think I?ll ever not buy Waywords.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on August 30, 2017, 11:24:06 AM
Stick with the waywards!

Sml, the ones I skated, the narrow cut or whatever, we're cored, didn't feel fast at all and we're much to grippy.

I wish Landshark had more success, those wheels were on point.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on September 04, 2017, 06:54:36 AM
Stick with the waywards!

Sml, the ones I skated, the narrow cut or whatever, we're cored, didn't feel fast at all and we're much to grippy.

I wish Landshark had more success, those wheels were on point.

Well I work nights and took the train to work. I'm
Currently on the bus home and didn't notice anything on my way to the train but on the
Way to the bus I heard thumping and lo and behold, my waywards have a significant flat spot.


Going to try out my old STFs but it looks like I'll be sticking to F4's. Everything else I try gives me a worse experience.

Edit: it's been a long tom since I've had STFs and I remember them being suuuper duper mega hard but they barely feel harder than my Waywards.

Also, I have the v3s (I fucking love skinny wheels and these are about half as wide as spitfire classics) and bombed a hill right by house and their slide brought back  so many memories. Now I remember why I used ride nothing but STFs. And they don't have that plastic-ish feeling I remembered either.

This is weird. The STFs feel like a SLIGHTLY harder wayward (101s) with a bit more slide

I  know that riding then with loose tucks (I ride thunders with the stick white bushings and have never loosened or tightened them ever) with these might be a little slick but I love them. Makes me feel like a kid in a candy store.


Going to ride these for a bit and see if I find any flaws but right off the bat, they feel super good.  


Double edit: forgot the picture of the flat spot.

(https://s26.postimg.org/4nk93t9ax/IMG_1917.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on September 09, 2017, 11:09:50 PM
Okay, so on rough ass ground or the sidewalks on my way to work with pretty big cracks STFs definitely ?rattle my teeth? quite a bit but there is still something I love about them. Maybe because until about year ago I only rode them for a solid 3-4 years so I?m just used to them I don?t know.


Still think I prefer formula 4 classics but I don?t hate these STFs like I thought I would.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on September 09, 2017, 11:32:58 PM
Skated the 55mm 99a f4 lock-ins for the first time today. Much wider and hence grippier than my radial slims which were under 50mm. Blunts on ledges are much stickier but feel so much more in control bombing hills and navigating shit terrain. Feels nice to have a powerslide that actually slows you down. Can always wax up a ledge more, can't unwax the ground.

Might just be placebo effect but I did notice my backside 5050s on round rails slipping out into feeble less, so far I'm convinced that they do help a little with locking in. Got a small flatspot already though, should be gone in a few.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: DCLOVE on September 10, 2017, 07:56:52 PM
How much of difference is there between a stf v2 and v5? I'm skating the v5s right now and enjoying them but the v2s seem like the same shape but slightly slimmer. Is that the only difference?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on September 10, 2017, 08:28:56 PM
How much of difference is there between a stf v2 and v5? I'm skating the v5s right now and enjoying them but the v2s seem like the same shape but slightly slimmer. Is that the only difference?

They pretty damn different.

https://bones.com/why/street-tech-formula/ (https://bones.com/why/street-tech-formula/)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on September 11, 2017, 08:35:29 AM
So I've only ever skated spitfire's classic shape.

Would anyone who's tried both, recommend classics or radial slims.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: JusticeAbberdash on September 11, 2017, 09:53:11 AM
So I've only ever skated spitfire's classic shape.

Would anyone who's tried both, recommend classics or radial slims.

I haven't tried the slims, but regular radials are super nice.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on September 11, 2017, 01:22:30 PM
So I've only ever skated spitfire's classic shape.

Would anyone who's tried both, recommend classics or radial slims.

I prefer slimmer wheels so I opt'd for the Radial Slims...Classics are so round to me now.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Toadfish Rebecchi on September 12, 2017, 07:34:13 PM
Why do Bones Wheels look like they're made of washing powder crammed really tightly into the shape of a wheel? It distresses me.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: N.L. on September 12, 2017, 07:50:44 PM
So I've only ever skated spitfire's classic shape.

Would anyone who's tried both, recommend classics or radial slims.

Radial Slims in a 101 were too narrow for my tastes. Still an amazing wheel but I prefer regular radials, which are a perfect combo of shape and width for the stuff I skate. Classics also great.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Dr. Octagon on September 12, 2017, 08:52:14 PM
plan to pick up some of those 55mm 99A lockins. getting tired of the classic shape on curbs
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: colt cannon lunchbox on September 13, 2017, 01:48:45 AM
First day skating OJ Insanathane 101s and these are substantially faster than any other wheel I have ever had. They are slippery as fuck, which I kinda like but I would be scared to skate an indoor or really smooth new tranny with these. For smooth street skating I would 100% skate these over a formula four 101.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Firebert on September 13, 2017, 07:32:00 AM
So I've only ever skated spitfire's classic shape.

Would anyone who's tried both, recommend classics or radial slims.

I prefer slimmer wheels so I opt'd for the Radial Slims...Classics are so round to me now.

Classics have a smaller riding surface, so they'll feel faster. I prefer the grip you get from the other shapes personally.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: jamersonbass on September 13, 2017, 09:43:53 AM
I went from classic 99's and 101's, to 101 radial slims, and am currently on 99 conicals.  I really like the radial slims, but a spot popped up a year ago and the ground is super crusty.  It's almost like a comparing a road bike to a mountain bike.  I went with the conicals because they roll over the crusty stuff a lot better.  The spot is a super long, higher than average painted curb and 1 or 2 feet away from where you'd normally land, it's like they pored gravel over the blacktop before it cured.  I call it the gauntlet, hahah.  Radial slims would eventually slow you down to a halt if you rolled into it.  Conical's get through it a lot more effectively.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on September 15, 2017, 10:16:43 AM
I'm sure it should been brought up somewhere among this thread but the search never seems to be helpful... has any one tried Satori wheels? I'm a spitfire loyalist but they have this Marl Watson wheel I find interesting...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: gsosa on September 15, 2017, 12:21:25 PM
I'm sure it should been brought up somewhere among this thread but the search never seems to be helpful... has any one tried Satori wheels? I'm a spitfire loyalist but they have this Marl Watson wheel I find interesting...
I had some satoris a couple of years back, they were a danny fuenzalida pro model and boy were they good wheels, slid super well and the slide was definitely really controlled and they lasted a long time. I would definitely recommend them, in fact I think they are the best wheels behind Formula 4s that Ive tried.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Dr. Octagon on September 15, 2017, 01:30:18 PM
I'm sure it should been brought up somewhere among this thread but the search never seems to be helpful... has any one tried Satori wheels? I'm a spitfire loyalist but they have this Marl Watson wheel I find interesting...

god damn it
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: perverted super otaku! on September 16, 2017, 05:59:27 AM
Made the switch back to Bones(SPF) a while ago, and don't think I can ever go back to F4's, they seem to last way longer and dont skid out as much when your turning at higher speeds on shitty ground
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: TheVisitor on September 18, 2017, 06:04:26 PM
So I started skating again earlier this year and I've noticed that people seem to really like these conical shapes that a lot of companies are putting out. How are they better for street skating vs classic shaped wheels? Are they supposed to make riding over rough terrain easier or locking into slappy grinds easier?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Mr. Kamikazi on September 18, 2017, 06:07:27 PM
sml wheels AG formula size 53.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on September 22, 2017, 08:50:45 AM
I don't think I've mentioned this but I'm skating a bones 81 SPF and they skate good....a hair softer so they don't feel as rattley....
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on September 22, 2017, 09:09:55 AM
I don't think I've mentioned this but I'm skating a bones 81 SPF and they skate good....a hair softer so they don't feel as rattley....
My buddy was skating regular SPF's and accidentally bought the 81 SPF's when he got new wheels. He couldn't do any of his revert shit for a few days. It was funny how confused he was.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: JerrySeinfeld on September 22, 2017, 09:26:20 AM
I just flat spotted my radial slime doing a bs 180 off a curb. Pretty disappointed since it was my first session with the wheels
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: JusticeAbberdash on September 22, 2017, 09:41:30 AM
I just flat spotted my radial slime doing a bs 180 off a curb. Pretty disappointed since it was my first session with the wheels

I can't remember who brought it up a while ago.. But you should usually take some time to break in F4s before you start sliding them around :o

A few people have flatted them, all when brand new! They need to get a bit roughed up before they're flat resistant.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: delaware county on September 22, 2017, 11:33:22 AM
Flatspotted the shit out of some OJ's the other day, granted they were just a basic wheel formula(not insaneathane). Anyone on here fuck with Prizefighter? I think I'm gonna give em a try
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: LennyDLXSF on September 22, 2017, 11:38:09 AM
I just flat spotted my radial slime doing a bs 180 off a curb. Pretty disappointed since it was my first session with the wheels

Email me please.

[email protected]
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Esmith5488 on September 25, 2017, 01:09:08 PM
Flatspotted the shit out of some OJ's the other day, granted they were just a basic wheel formula(not insaneathane). Anyone on here fuck with Prizefighter? I think I'm gonna give em a try

had a set a few years ago and its good shit, but this was before F4 so i compare
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Randozzi on September 25, 2017, 01:20:32 PM
Prize Fighter's are great, slide and have grip. F4s are easier to powerslide but the feel and ride is different, PFC's ride a little harder.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on September 25, 2017, 01:26:37 PM
I don't think I've mentioned this but I'm skating a bones 81 SPF and they skate good....a hair softer so they don't feel as rattley....
My buddy was skating regular SPF's and accidentally bought the 81 SPF's when he got new wheels. He couldn't do any of his revert shit for a few days. It was funny how confused he was.

I got these on my street set up so like asphalt and stuff...the little bit of softness is nice.....I skate the regs SPF on ramps and yeah a bit stickier for sure but I don't worry if the ramp isn't mopped....
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on September 25, 2017, 01:49:03 PM
I'm sure it should been brought up somewhere among this thread but the search never seems to be helpful... has any one tried Satori wheels? I'm a spitfire loyalist but they have this Marl Watson wheel I find interesting...
I had some satoris a couple of years back, they were a danny fuenzalida pro model and boy were they good wheels, slid super well and the slide was definitely really controlled and they lasted a long time. I would definitely recommend them

+1 for Satori, really underrated wheels. Almost impossible to find these days. I'm actually putting a set of Fuenz 52s on my next board. I was riding Satori Guru 82b and I loved those too but decided to size down from 54.

So I started skating again earlier this year and I've noticed that people seem to really like these conical shapes that a lot of companies are putting out. How are they better for street skating vs classic shaped wheels? Are they supposed to make riding over rough terrain easier or locking into slappy grinds easier?

That's a great question and truthfully it all comes down to personal preference. There is science behind contact patch and how it relates to controlling slides, etc., but it really is all about personal preference. I used to skate wide wheels and conical cuts but I love skinny wheels these days. My favorite wheel shape is thin with a tablet cut, Autobahn ABX and those Ricta NRG for instance. To your point, it does seem like wider wheels are all the rage at the moment.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on September 25, 2017, 05:30:21 PM
Flatspotted the shit out of some OJ's the other day, granted they were just a basic wheel formula(not insaneathane). Anyone on here fuck with Prizefighter? I think I'm gonna give em a try
they'll rattle your teeth out but I guess some people like that. My wife has some (of my old ones) on her board and they look huge width-wise now that I'm skating radial slims :o Also, are they still in business? Haven't seen a release from them in a minute
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: NowhereInLife on September 25, 2017, 06:57:17 PM
I don't think I've mentioned this but I'm skating a bones 81 SPF and they skate good....a hair softer so they don't feel as rattley....
My buddy was skating regular SPF's and accidentally bought the 81 SPF's when he got new wheels. He couldn't do any of his revert shit for a few days. It was funny how confused he was.

I got these on my street set up so like asphalt and stuff...the little bit of softness is nice.....I skate the regs SPF on ramps and yeah a bit stickier for sure but I don't worry if the ramp isn't mopped....
Yes they are not as glidey on shittier asphalt than stf coz less rebound, but on decent ground a hard fast long great roll that is just a little less harsh or something.  grippy af at first but hey loosen up.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: JusticeAbberdash on September 25, 2017, 07:10:28 PM
I'm sure it should been brought up somewhere among this thread but the search never seems to be helpful... has any one tried Satori wheels? I'm a spitfire loyalist but they have this Marl Watson wheel I find interesting...
I had some satoris a couple of years back, they were a danny fuenzalida pro model and boy were they good wheels, slid super well and the slide was definitely really controlled and they lasted a long time. I would definitely recommend them

+1 for Satori, really underrated wheels. Almost impossible to find these days. I'm actually putting a set of Fuenz 52s on my next board. I was riding Satori Guru 82b and I loved those too but decided to size down from 54.

So I started skating again earlier this year and I've noticed that people seem to really like these conical shapes that a lot of companies are putting out. How are they better for street skating vs classic shaped wheels? Are they supposed to make riding over rough terrain easier or locking into slappy grinds easier?

That's a great question and truthfully it all comes down to personal preference. There is science behind contact patch and how it relates to controlling slides, etc., but it really is all about personal preference. I used to skate wide wheels and conical cuts but I love skinny wheels these days. My favorite wheel shape is thin with a tablet cut, Autobahn ABX and those Ricta NRG for instance. To your point, it does seem like wider wheels are all the rage at the moment.


I can never tell how I feel about wide wheels, so I keep it to classic or radial. I've never been able to comfortably slide with wide wheels, maybe its just a psychological thing ??? Thin wheels are too slippery for me.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Roisto on September 25, 2017, 08:51:26 PM
I'm sure it should been brought up somewhere among this thread but the search never seems to be helpful... has any one tried Satori wheels? I'm a spitfire loyalist but they have this Marl Watson wheel I find interesting...
I had some satoris a couple of years back, they were a danny fuenzalida pro model and boy were they good wheels, slid super well and the slide was definitely really controlled and they lasted a long time. I would definitely recommend them

+1 for Satori, really underrated wheels. Almost impossible to find these days. I'm actually putting a set of Fuenz 52s on my next board. I was riding Satori Guru 82b and I loved those too but decided to size down from 54.

So I started skating again earlier this year and I've noticed that people seem to really like these conical shapes that a lot of companies are putting out. How are they better for street skating vs classic shaped wheels? Are they supposed to make riding over rough terrain easier or locking into slappy grinds easier?

That's a great question and truthfully it all comes down to personal preference. There is science behind contact patch and how it relates to controlling slides, etc., but it really is all about personal preference. I used to skate wide wheels and conical cuts but I love skinny wheels these days. My favorite wheel shape is thin with a tablet cut, Autobahn ABX and those Ricta NRG for instance. To your point, it does seem like wider wheels are all the rage at the moment.


I can never tell how I feel about wide wheels, so I keep it to classic or radial. I've never been able to comfortably slide with wide wheels, maybe its just a psychological thing ??? Thin wheels are too slippery for me.

Probably, cuz a bigger surface area does not increase the coefficient of friction.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Randozzi on September 26, 2017, 01:02:04 AM
Flatspotted the shit out of some OJ's the other day, granted they were just a basic wheel formula(not insaneathane). Anyone on here fuck with Prizefighter? I think I'm gonna give em a try
they'll rattle your teeth out but I guess some people like that. My wife has some (of my old ones) on her board and they look huge width-wise now that I'm skating radial slims :o Also, are they still in business? Haven't seen a release from them in a minute
Nope, they are still around just only a couple sizes available right now.

http://www.prizefightercutlery.com (http://www.prizefightercutlery.com)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on October 03, 2017, 08:10:23 PM
I'm sure it should been brought up somewhere among this thread but the search never seems to be helpful... has any one tried Satori wheels? I'm a spitfire loyalist but they have this Marl Watson wheel I find interesting...
I had some satoris a couple of years back, they were a danny fuenzalida pro model and boy were they good wheels, slid super well and the slide was definitely really controlled and they lasted a long time. I would definitely recommend them

+1 for Satori, really underrated wheels. Almost impossible to find these days. I'm actually putting a set of Fuenz 52s on my next board. I was riding Satori Guru 82b and I loved those too but decided to size down from 54.

So I started skating again earlier this year and I've noticed that people seem to really like these conical shapes that a lot of companies are putting out. How are they better for street skating vs classic shaped wheels? Are they supposed to make riding over rough terrain easier or locking into slappy grinds easier?

That's a great question and truthfully it all comes down to personal preference. There is science behind contact patch and how it relates to controlling slides, etc., but it really is all about personal preference. I used to skate wide wheels and conical cuts but I love skinny wheels these days. My favorite wheel shape is thin with a tablet cut, Autobahn ABX and those Ricta NRG for instance. To your point, it does seem like wider wheels are all the rage at the moment.

Same here, don't forget Bones V2s (thinking about grabbing a set as all the ricta nrg/naturals are getting wiiiiiide too =(
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on October 03, 2017, 08:45:00 PM
I'm sure it should been brought up somewhere among this thread but the search never seems to be helpful... has any one tried Satori wheels? I'm a spitfire loyalist but they have this Marl Watson wheel I find interesting...
I had some satoris a couple of years back, they were a danny fuenzalida pro model and boy were they good wheels, slid super well and the slide was definitely really controlled and they lasted a long time. I would definitely recommend them

+1 for Satori, really underrated wheels. Almost impossible to find these days. I'm actually putting a set of Fuenz 52s on my next board. I was riding Satori Guru 82b and I loved those too but decided to size down from 54.

So I started skating again earlier this year and I've noticed that people seem to really like these conical shapes that a lot of companies are putting out. How are they better for street skating vs classic shaped wheels? Are they supposed to make riding over rough terrain easier or locking into slappy grinds easier?

That's a great question and truthfully it all comes down to personal preference. There is science behind contact patch and how it relates to controlling slides, etc., but it really is all about personal preference. I used to skate wide wheels and conical cuts but I love skinny wheels these days. My favorite wheel shape is thin with a tablet cut, Autobahn ABX and those Ricta NRG for instance. To your point, it does seem like wider wheels are all the rage at the moment.

Same here, don't forget Bones V2s (thinking about grabbing a set as all the ricta nrg/naturals are getting wiiiiiide too =(

Are you talking about riding surface or the width of the wheel? I recently had an unopened set of 54mm stf v5s and an unopened set of 53mm stf v2s and the riding surface of the v2s was actually a little wider than the v5s. Theyre square cut but the contact patch isn't by any means that thin.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: calvinsdream on October 04, 2017, 08:47:16 AM
I remember going through some thing on longboard wheels (those nerds write about everything) where it was saying that wider wheels both break into slides easier (but also don't break back out of slides as easy), and while there is equivalent friction between wide wheels and skinny wheels, that wide wheels have less pressure vs. surface area, allowing them to roll over rough ground and bumps without losing as much speed.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: the snake on October 04, 2017, 11:39:03 AM


Are you talking about riding surface or the width of the wheel? I recently had an unopened set of 54mm stf v5s and an unopened set of 53mm stf v2s and the riding surface of the v2s was actually a little wider than the v5s. Theyre square cut but the contact patch isn't by any means that thin.
give us the dimensions please
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on October 04, 2017, 11:54:18 AM


Are you talking about riding surface or the width of the wheel? I recently had an unopened set of 54mm stf v5s and an unopened set of 53mm stf v2s and the riding surface of the v2s was actually a little wider than the v5s. Theyre square cut but the contact patch isn't by any means that thin.
give us the dimensions please

I gave the v2s to a friend, but if you look closely at this picture, https://bones.com/media/wysiwyg/boneswheels/why/BONES_STF_shapes_2017.jpg, you'll notice that though the v5s are wider, the actual contact patch is a little thinner than the v2s, just by a tiny bit though.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: patrick c. on October 04, 2017, 11:57:24 AM
that wide wheels have less pressure vs. surface area, allowing them to roll over rough ground and bumps without losing as much speed.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pCrjLVSapII/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: the snake on October 04, 2017, 12:29:53 PM


Are you talking about riding surface or the width of the wheel? I recently had an unopened set of 54mm stf v5s and an unopened set of 53mm stf v2s and the riding surface of the v2s was actually a little wider than the v5s. Theyre square cut but the contact patch isn't by any means that thin.
give us the dimensions please

I gave the v2s to a friend, but if you look closely at this picture, https://bones.com/media/wysiwyg/boneswheels/why/BONES_STF_shapes_2017.jpg, you'll notice that though the v5s are wider, the actual contact patch is a little thinner than the v2s, just by a tiny bit though.
2mm...yeah that's a thin difference
riding some classic full 101a for 10 months, they're great on all terrains, only 3mm down !
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on October 05, 2017, 09:28:33 AM
The v5s are wider because of the lip of the wheel, supposedly to help you roll over the coping and lock in for bowls; only difference in the cut and 'function' compared to the V2.

Riding 52mm V5s in a transition focused park atm - most people here ride SPF P5s (very close in shape as the V5s but a tad less round on the lip).

I'm trying to find the SPF P1s in 53mm but they're discontinued and tough to find to have some smaller SPFs as wearing down bigger ones takes forever.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: full of jerks on October 07, 2017, 12:39:11 PM
The v5s are wider because of the lip of the wheel, supposedly to help you roll over the coping and lock in for bowls; only difference in the cut and 'function' compared to the V2.

Riding 52mm V5s in a transition focused park atm - most people here ride SPF P5s (very close in shape as the V5s but a tad less round on the lip).

I'm trying to find the SPF P1s in 53mm but they're discontinued and tough to find to have some smaller SPFs as wearing down bigger ones takes forever.

https://www.skateamerica.com/products/bones-strokes-spf-v1-skateboard-wheels-black-53mm-set-of-4?variant=14786325574
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on October 07, 2017, 05:32:46 PM
The v5s are wider because of the lip of the wheel, supposedly to help you roll over the coping and lock in for bowls; only difference in the cut and 'function' compared to the V2.

Riding 52mm V5s in a transition focused park atm - most people here ride SPF P5s (very close in shape as the V5s but a tad less round on the lip).

I'm trying to find the SPF P1s in 53mm but they're discontinued and tough to find to have some smaller SPFs as wearing down bigger ones takes forever.

https://www.skateamerica.com/products/bones-strokes-spf-v1-skateboard-wheels-black-53mm-set-of-4?variant=14786325574

You the real MVP.

Gave waywards another chance using some swiss six and no spacers so they are not clamped down, feel much better and not as soft in a smooth park setting...got a few digs/small chunks missing on the riding surface from my last street session, really annoying sounding in a smooth park tho :\
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: DaSk8D00D on October 11, 2017, 09:13:59 AM
Wanted to try a wider wheel so I Got some 54,101 conical fulls. First 2 sessions had me feeling kinda "meh" about em because they felt clunky locking in to grinds compared to my 54mm Crupies but yesterday I had a pretty good session on them so the verdicts still out. I was originally gonna get some 53mm lock-ins and I still kinda feel like maybe I shoulda grabbed those instead now since but we'll see...I love my Crupies tho I'm gonna have to grab some Tiago wheels at some point for sure
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Esquivel on October 11, 2017, 03:37:32 PM
Just managed to powerslide of a quite deep crater that appeared after skating some angle iron (my local park meh). It initially evolved into a shallower crater surrounded by flatspot but eventually that went away too and im now left with a slightly smaller but greatly smoother wheel. Super stoked because last time I tried this was ages ago and was a kinda different situation, only had a small flatspot then.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: ontheswarm on October 11, 2017, 04:07:44 PM
Just got the conical full formula fours. Had the mike anderson wheel before and different variations so I'm curious to see how they are.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on October 11, 2017, 04:23:29 PM
Just got the conical full formula fours. Had the mike anderson wheel before and different variations so I'm curious to see how they are.

How did you like the mike Anderson sfw? I've been waffling on whether to get them for like 3-4 months.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on October 11, 2017, 04:41:00 PM
Over the past two days of park skating I've put flat spots (and taken out a chunk) on waywards (doing reverts) and my stfs (re-learning F/S bigspins off a bank and I'd slide the full rotation). Fucking pissed. I'm sure they'd ride out if I did more 'real street' but still...

Just can't stand the bdbdbdbdbdbdbdbdbbdbdbdbdbdbdbdbdbdbdb sound on smooth crete back to OJs until I flat those on bigspins or whatever.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: ontheswarm on October 11, 2017, 09:49:30 PM
Just got the conical full formula fours. Had the mike anderson wheel before and different variations so I'm curious to see how they are.

How did you like the mike Anderson sfw? I've been waffling on whether to get them for like 3-4 months.

Been a long time but they were a really good wheel but they don't last as long as formula fours.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Paco Supreme on October 11, 2017, 10:14:33 PM
Just got the conical full formula fours. Had the mike anderson wheel before and different variations so I'm curious to see how they are.

How did you like the mike Anderson sfw? I've been waffling on whether to get them for like 3-4 months.

Conical full are the F4 mandersons, if you like the formula go with those. Otherwise the SFWs are just boxy shaped classics
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: cosmicgypsies on October 16, 2017, 03:34:57 AM
been skating some stf v5s for over a year now, well due a new set. really enjoyed the stfs but i'm just wondering if it's worth giving spfs, formula fours, or even something from speedlab a shot.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: danjtony on October 16, 2017, 08:14:06 AM
If you skate a lot of tranny, the grip to speed ratio of SPFs is unparalleled. Formula fours are sick on crusty spots, but I find them kind of sluggish at the park. Though they slide really well. I never tried Speedlabs, but I kinda wanna get some of their 97a for indoor park season.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: cosmicgypsies on October 16, 2017, 08:54:44 AM
caved and got some 53mm formula fours on sale for £25 quid, worst comes to worst if i dont like them ill sell them on and try something else. all i rode for years were spitfire classics then changed to stfs and it was a whole new world
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: JusticeAbberdash on October 16, 2017, 09:32:38 AM
caved and got some 53mm formula fours on sale for £25 quid, worst comes to worst if i dont like them ill sell them on and try something else. all i rode for years were spitfire classics then changed to stfs and it was a whole new world

F4s and STFs are almost equal IMO. They just have different feels. STFs are bouncy rubbery feeling, but slippery at the same time. F4s feel like rocks but grip pretty well.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Krooked antihero on October 17, 2017, 12:02:46 AM
caved and got some 53mm formula fours on sale for £25 quid, worst comes to worst if i dont like them ill sell them on and try something else. all i rode for years were spitfire classics then changed to stfs and it was a whole new world

F4s and STFs are almost equal IMO. They just have different feels. STFs are bouncy rubbery feeling, but slippery at the same time. F4s feel like rocks but grip pretty well.
I feel total opposite, for me stfís grip more and f4ís are bit unpredictable on slides.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: commander jameson on October 26, 2017, 01:37:54 AM
After almost a decade on Bones STF I set up Crupie wheels couple of days ago to try them out and they are holding up great after skating them on some smooth and some really rough ground.  No chips or flatspots yet.
Performance wise in the streets they are comparable to STFs that I rode before, time will tell if they are as durable.
Great value for money as Bones STF/Spitfire F4 cost almost twice as much.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: DaSk8D00D on October 26, 2017, 06:12:41 AM
After almost a decade on Bones STF I set up Crupie wheels couple of days ago to try them out and they are holding up great after skating them on some smooth and some really rough ground.  No chips or flatspots yet.
Performance wise in the streets they are comparable to STFs that I rode before, time will tell if they are as durable.
Great value for money as Bones STF/Spitfire F4 cost almost twice as much.

Yeah Crupies are damn good wheels, especially since their quality is on par with Bones/Spitfire at a lower cost. Loved the set I skated. I went back to some F4ís for the sake of trying a new wheel shape but Iíve got my eyes on some Tiago Crupies next. Will probably cop when he wins SotY
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on October 26, 2017, 06:13:26 PM
After almost a decade on Bones STF I set up Crupie wheels couple of days ago to try them out and they are holding up great after skating them on some smooth and some really rough ground.  No chips or flatspots yet.
Performance wise in the streets they are comparable to STFs that I rode before, time will tell if they are as durable.
Great value for money as Bones STF/Spitfire F4 cost almost twice as much.

Yeah Crupies are damn good wheels, especially since their quality is on par with Bones/Spitfire at a lower cost. Loved the set I skated. I went back to some F4ís for the sake of trying a new wheel shape but Iíve got my eyes on some Tiago Crupies next. Will probably cop when he wins SotY

I'm going to grab a set, the thinner shape seems really nice (plus I'm flatting wheels so an extra would be handy).
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: JusticeAbberdash on October 26, 2017, 08:20:00 PM
53mm crupies might be a sleeper hit.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Vigo the Carpathian on October 26, 2017, 09:37:40 PM
Ordered these 83b Clone wheels today.  If they don't come in a fucking test tube I'm sending them back.
(https://www.tactics.com/a/9ru7/2/alien-workshop-clone-b-cells-skateboard-wheels-white-pink-orange-83b.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on October 26, 2017, 09:51:22 PM
53mm crupies might be a sleeper hit.

I've got some sitting in a cart, once I hear back from them on my questions I'll probably bite. For now, back on F4 radial slims for a bit (kinda saving my ojs from flat spotting as i've been on a run lately and figure i'll flat the f4s first ;)

Ordered these 83b Clone wheels today.  If they don't come in a fucking test tube I'm sending them back.
(https://www.tactics.com/a/9ru7/2/alien-workshop-clone-b-cells-skateboard-wheels-white-pink-orange-83b.jpg)

Board brand wheels, run away, run away!!!

That being said, anyone run board brand wheels with positive results?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Esquivel on October 27, 2017, 06:13:01 AM
Pig - when they also used to make boards
Darkstar - when they also used to make wheels
Flip - when they used to make both. I liked them but was not too fond of them
Around 2009 I had a set of chocolates that had a soft core and was harder on the outside. Thought they skated pretty weird at first but when I got used to the feel I started liking them.
Anything else I can think off has been utter shite, mainly having to do with misaligned bearing sockets.
If you take a wheel with bearings and hold it between your index finger and thumb (through where the axle would pass) and spin it and then feel some movement, then the wheels are really bad and the company should be giving them away like they do with promotional lighters and keyholders because those wheels probably cost as much.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: sharkin on October 27, 2017, 07:01:19 AM
i had a set of AW wheels in 2009 that weren't awful

they were the keith haring collab got em for like $9 and rode them a few months with no flatspots
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Esquivel on October 27, 2017, 07:28:40 AM
^oh shit i forgot a set of aw duane pitre that i had back in the day and that i liked a lot but at the time it didnt matter much because wheels were tiny and after a day or two they were destroyed to tell any difference
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: birdplops on October 27, 2017, 04:43:51 PM
Dear Slap,

I got some new spitfires, but there is this mark on one. The surface is smooth but it looks like a crack- send it back or skate it?

(https://i.imgur.com/2kryF5b.jpg)

Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Lee Ralph Fan Club on October 27, 2017, 07:55:43 PM
Skate it. I bet its just a minor blemish.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: saltusnaut on October 28, 2017, 02:46:30 AM
Dear Slap,

I got some new spitfires, but there is this mark on one. The surface is smooth but it looks like a crack- send it back or skate it?

(https://i.imgur.com/2kryF5b.jpg)

Looks like something went wrong in pouring them. I would be worried bombing a hill on that wheel.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: cosmicgypsies on October 28, 2017, 02:51:24 AM
caved and got some 53mm formula fours on sale for £25 quid, worst comes to worst if i dont like them ill sell them on and try something else. all i rode for years were spitfire classics then changed to stfs and it was a whole new world

F4s and STFs are almost equal IMO. They just have different feels. STFs are bouncy rubbery feeling, but slippery at the same time. F4s feel like rocks but grip pretty well.
I feel total opposite, for me stfís grip more and f4ís are bit unpredictable on slides.

after a week or so on the f4s im really enjoying it, if anything id say my experience is the reverse of yours with the f4s gripping more and the stfs being far slippier but in reality thats probably down to the fact i had the stfs a year and they shrunk like fuck
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Szechuan on October 28, 2017, 03:02:28 AM
I've been wanting to get some formula 4's, is there a difference for real from 99a and 101 duromater?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: gumi on October 28, 2017, 07:50:22 AM
I've been wanting to get some formula 4's, is there a difference for real from 99a and 101 duromater?

99s are noticeably smoother on rough ground, 101s slide just a wee bit more. Both really good
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on October 28, 2017, 07:53:40 AM
Picks up some SPF fireballs....they look good....kinda Powells response to the wide tread spitfire profiles....put em on my ramp set up....
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: birdplops on October 28, 2017, 02:52:25 PM
Skate it. I bet its just a minor blemish.

Got them replaced- Good lads at Note in Manchester.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Szechuan on October 29, 2017, 01:59:59 PM
I've been wanting to get some formula 4's, is there a difference for real from 99a and 101 duromater?

99s are noticeably smoother on rough ground, 101s slide just a wee bit more. Both really good
Word I'm in Alabama and most of the ground besides the park and downtown  is pretty rough so I'm def going with the 99a
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Vigo the Carpathian on October 29, 2017, 05:40:15 PM
Those Clones are pretty nice. Fast.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: fulfillthedream on October 29, 2017, 06:15:38 PM
I've been wanting to get some formula 4's, is there a difference for real from 99a and 101 duromater?

the 101's are way more slippery. i skate a lot of marble surfaces so the 99 ones are perfect. i tried the 101s after using the 99 classics and they felt too slippery so i had to go back to the 99s
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: LennyDLXSF on October 30, 2017, 08:22:11 AM
Dear Slap,

I got some new spitfires, but there is this mark on one. The surface is smooth but it looks like a crack- send it back or skate it?

(https://i.imgur.com/2kryF5b.jpg)

Email me please!

[email protected]
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: daysbeneathwaves on October 30, 2017, 03:39:47 PM
Those Clones are pretty nice. Fast.

Completely agree! I got the 54mm Chromosome Conical shaped ones and couldn't believe how fast yet seemingly forgiving on cracks and rough pavement they are! They're a little on the grippy side for a 101A but still slide nice and work well on the metal ramps at my park. After getting three defective sets of F4's in a row I decided to go a different route for my park/street wheels and I'm glad I did as I'm really enjoying them! They seem really well made too, no flatspots or chipping/chunking as of yet. They're only $25 on Tactics.

https://www.tactics.com/alien-workshop/clone-chromosome-skateboard-wheels/white-light-blue-101a (https://www.tactics.com/alien-workshop/clone-chromosome-skateboard-wheels/white-light-blue-101a)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: daysbeneathwaves on October 30, 2017, 04:09:21 PM
If you're in the market for an "in-between" wheel that isn't slow as molasses or as bouncy as a superball then I can't recommend these enough! Been skating them for about two years on my "Who knows what I'm gonna be skating?" setup. They're 92A but have a hard plastic core so they actually go go go instead of mushing out around the bearings like Spitfire SoftD's do. 92A is what I used to skate as a street wheel when I was a kid in the 80's so "power-sliding" a 92A wheel is business as usual for me but if you always skate harder wheels you may have to put a bit more "power" into it than you're used to when initiating a slide. You aren't going to be doing a lot of blunt slides with these but Slappies and Board-Slides or similar tricks can be accomplished pretty easily. I skate these on a metal mini-ramp a lot and they work pretty well there too. They also handle cracks and pebbles quite nicely.

If you want a hybrid wheel that you can cruise quickly over most terrains with but not be completely out of luck should you end up at a park or a nice ditch then this wheel is the perfect compromise between hard and soft while staying fast! Tactics usually has them but they seem to be out of stock right now so you can get them on the Sml site. Hope this helps someone!

https://www.smlwheels.com/shop/succulent-big-dreams-54mm-92a-1 (https://www.smlwheels.com/shop/succulent-big-dreams-54mm-92a-1)

(https://i.imgur.com/Vr5Ux3g.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: DCLOVE on November 04, 2017, 08:37:38 PM
Been skating more tranny and was thinking about separate park board . Any recomendations on wheels . I figured this would be more of a dual use cruiser/ tranny setup so something thatís works well for both would be ideal. Thanks pals
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on November 06, 2017, 09:30:30 AM
81b SPF's or 99a formula 4's no?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: TheVisitor on November 07, 2017, 11:50:23 AM
Has anyone skated Ghetto Child since they relaunched the brand? Are the wheels any good?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: JusticeAbberdash on November 07, 2017, 02:31:38 PM
I wonder what would happen if you took STF and F4 urethane and mixed it together? Would you create the ultimate wheel?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: theloniousmonk on November 07, 2017, 05:07:23 PM
Been skating more tranny and was thinking about separate park board . Any recomendations on wheels . I figured this would be more of a dual use cruiser/ tranny setup so something thatís works well for both would be ideal. Thanks pals
Not sure if you mean outdoor concrete or wood ramps, but I have a set of 58mm bones skatepark formula that I skate at the dreamland park, and it's pretty fun to be able to just cruise around basically as fast as you want. I skate them on indy 159 forged, with no risers on the 8.88 creature shape with a 15" wheelbase.  I probably wouldn't have gotten the wheels, but skatewarehouse had them for like $16 last spring, and I'm pretty hyped on that setup for concrete. I skate 55-56mm stf everywhere else, including masonite.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on November 07, 2017, 07:22:27 PM
Been skating more tranny and was thinking about separate park board . Any recomendations on wheels . I figured this would be more of a dual use cruiser/ tranny setup so something thatís works well for both would be ideal. Thanks pals

Are you good at carving? I'm only asking as a park wheel and a cruiser wheel are/can be totally different.

Park wheels are usually hard, would recommend SPFs, the P5 shape. Cruiser wheels or softer wheels, I seen old guys rocking them in bowls all the time (hell Alva still does), I can't do it tho, you have to go BIG on the mms to compensate for the soft thane...they're also really grippy.

Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Lee Ralph Fan Club on November 07, 2017, 08:02:15 PM
I wonder what would happen if you took STF and F4 urethane and mixed it together? Would you create the ultimate wheel?

No.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on November 07, 2017, 08:33:20 PM
Been skating more tranny and was thinking about separate park board . Any recomendations on wheels . I figured this would be more of a dual use cruiser/ tranny setup so something thatís works well for both would be ideal. Thanks pals

Are you good at carving? I'm only asking as a park wheel and a cruiser wheel are/can be totally different.

Park wheels are usually hard, would recommend SPFs, the P5 shape. Cruiser wheels or softer wheels, I seen old guys rocking them in bowls all the time (hell Alva still does), I can't do it tho, you have to go BIG on the mms to compensate for the soft thane...they're also really grippy.

I don't even really like having soft wheels for cruisers because they are hard to slide on....which is why I recommended something just a hair softer to take the edge off.....the bones SPF while still really hard the stickiness just gives you that less plastic feel.....I think the 99 spits are up the same alley....

Get something wide.....the bones make fireballs and spits have conical.....

I get the idea of the board....I usually ride an 8' w. Tablet wheels but a wider 8.5 w. Slightly softer, bigger and wider wheels...to ride on tranny and back alleys makes sense....a good board to have around....
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on November 08, 2017, 11:23:03 AM
Been skating more tranny and was thinking about separate park board . Any recomendations on wheels . I figured this would be more of a dual use cruiser/ tranny setup so something thatís works well for both would be ideal. Thanks pals

Are you good at carving? I'm only asking as a park wheel and a cruiser wheel are/can be totally different.

Park wheels are usually hard, would recommend SPFs, the P5 shape. Cruiser wheels or softer wheels, I seen old guys rocking them in bowls all the time (hell Alva still does), I can't do it tho, you have to go BIG on the mms to compensate for the soft thane...they're also really grippy.

I don't even really like having soft wheels for cruisers because they are hard to slide on....which is why I recommended something just a hair softer to take the edge off.....the bones SPF while still really hard the stickiness just gives you that less plastic feel.....I think the 99 spits are up the same alley....

Get something wide.....the bones make fireballs and spits have conical.....

I get the idea of the board....I usually ride an 8' w. Tablet wheels but a wider 8.5 w. Slightly softer, bigger and wider wheels...to ride on tranny and back alleys makes sense....a good board to have around....

I've tried so many duros and wheel types to get a cruiser wheel that can slide and still take the bumps out...I've not succeeded (then again I also live in a part of LA with some of the roughest fucking roads and jankiest sidewalks around all littered with fucking hard berries and shit); it's for that reason I use Powells Rough Riders, plenty fast and smooth but not slidey.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on November 08, 2017, 02:26:09 PM
Powell sent me more or less the rough riders formula but no hub in a traditional shape and I like em but they are too soft to feel good doing ollies and such....I have them on my zip zinger and love em...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: ceruleanalien on November 09, 2017, 08:33:48 AM
I've tried so many duros and wheel types to get a cruiser wheel that can slide and still take the bumps out...I've not succeeded (then again I also live in a part of LA with some of the roughest fucking roads and jankiest sidewalks around all littered with fucking hard berries and shit); it's for that reason I use Powells Rough Riders, plenty fast and smooth but not slidey.

Try the Powell G-Slides 85A wheels. Same exact size as the Rough Riders but they actually slide pretty well. They also handle rough terrain about as good as the Rough Riders.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on November 09, 2017, 01:52:20 PM
I've tried so many duros and wheel types to get a cruiser wheel that can slide and still take the bumps out...I've not succeeded (then again I also live in a part of LA with some of the roughest fucking roads and jankiest sidewalks around all littered with fucking hard berries and shit); it's for that reason I use Powells Rough Riders, plenty fast and smooth but not slidey.

Try the Powell G-Slides 85A wheels. Same exact size as the Rough Riders but they actually slide pretty well. They also handle rough terrain about as good as the Rough Riders.

Am curious to try the g-slides 85a too. On the powell bomber 3 85a 60mms right now and they slide incredibly well and don't flatspot for a cruiser wheel.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: 410420247 on November 09, 2017, 04:39:33 PM
G-Slides vs Keyframes?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Chippedwood on November 16, 2017, 02:10:38 PM
Interested to hear what other people are riding other than Spits or Bones. Did a search and was surprised there wasn't a thread for other wheel manus. There is a great selection of smaller brands... Autobahn, OJ, Broadcast, Paradise, Pusher, SML, PFC, Type S, etc. Definitely interested to hear what people are skating.

Currently on these on these SML Herrington 53 Wides and I love them. They were a little slick for my tastes at first but after a few sessions they're perfect. For anyone that prefers wider wheels they are great:

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/SML_herrington_zps8e9c79be.jpg)

Just finished up on OJ Dela 53. Wasn't a big fan of them on first ride, but gave them a revisit and I was pretty psyched:

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/DELAwheels1_zps51bc2ab2.jpg)

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/DELAwheels2_zps8dcd1c42.jpg)

I have these up next, Satori Guru 54:

(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/satori_guru_zps523a8dcd.jpg)
If you are young you should just start riding spitfire classics now, you want to ride wheels that are going to be around forever. You get spitfire classics whatever size you want and bones bearings and thats what you ride for wheels, you dont fuck with that. then you get indys and get new indy bushings.
then you always have your spitfires and your indys, makes setting up a board much easier. no gimmicks.
Then you get OJs for your cruiser or rough spot board, I like the OJ ditch witch wheel too, sometimes you need something a lil softer and at 92 you can still powerslide.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on November 21, 2017, 01:49:27 AM
Been skating the Sml AG formula V-cuts.
Love them so far. A nice balance of grip and slide.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Willie on November 23, 2017, 08:11:51 AM
Does anyone make a 97a or equivalent anymore? I'm still looking for a good "rough park" wheel.

My 99 F4s are pretty great on almost everything but lose speed and rattle around too much on my local asphalt-flat tranny park.

I have some older DTF Formula wheels on my park cruiser but they are annoyingly bouncy and unresponsive. Trying to find a middle ground.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: danjtony on November 23, 2017, 10:15:47 AM
^Santa Cruz started making the Slime Balls 97a in smaller sizes again (52-54-56 I think). I like that formula a lot. Takes the edge off of fucked up ground and provides more grip in below freezing temps/indoor spots.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: vegan*shawn on November 25, 2017, 02:16:00 PM
Does anyone make a 97a or equivalent anymore? I'm still looking for a good "rough park" wheel.

My 99 F4s are pretty great on almost everything but lose speed and rattle around too much on my local asphalt-flat tranny park.

I have some older DTF Formula wheels on my park cruiser but they are annoyingly bouncy and unresponsive. Trying to find a middle ground.

Speed Lab wheels have some, depending on what size you want.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: vegan*shawn on November 25, 2017, 02:19:06 PM
I recently won a set of OJ wheels (the Shrine ones that come with a tape) they are 55mm. I was skating some really old Spitfire Mike Anderson wheels before (like for a year) that started off as 54mm. The Spitfire wheels even a year later are faster then the OJ wheels, every set of OJ wheels I have tried have a sluggish feeling to them, glad I didn't pay for them. Anyone else have this issue?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jared on November 25, 2017, 02:49:45 PM
I recently won a set of OJ wheels (the Shrine ones that come with a tape) they are 55mm. I was skating some really old Spitfire Mike Anderson wheels before (like for a year) that started off as 54mm. The Spitfire wheels even a year later are faster then the OJ wheels, every set of OJ wheels I have tried have a sluggish feeling to them, glad I didn't pay for them. Anyone else have this issue?
Yeah I've had that problem too, it feels like driving with really under inflated tires. Also the 2 pairs I had got flat spots within 30 minutes.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on November 25, 2017, 07:20:53 PM
I recently won a set of OJ wheels (the Shrine ones that come with a tape) they are 55mm. I was skating some really old Spitfire Mike Anderson wheels before (like for a year) that started off as 54mm. The Spitfire wheels even a year later are faster then the OJ wheels, every set of OJ wheels I have tried have a sluggish feeling to them, glad I didn't pay for them. Anyone else have this issue?
Yeah I've had that problem too, it feels like driving with really under inflated tires. Also the 2 pairs I had got flat spots within 30 minutes.

Yup. 'Regular' OJ'thane feels slow as hell at 101 but feels ok on rough terrain (I've also flatted every set I've had skating smooth parks) 'Insane-a-thane' is totally different, after you get used to them, they as fast as SPFs in parks. Super hard and fast (some say they feel chalky...maybe at first).

I've learned my lesson with regular oj than, never again, rather just get spits.

Interestingly enough, many people at my local park are rocking oj insane-a-thane and two that I speak with regularly feel that everything else after riding them feels slow.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on November 25, 2017, 09:41:39 PM
I recently won a set of OJ wheels (the Shrine ones that come with a tape) they are 55mm. I was skating some really old Spitfire Mike Anderson wheels before (like for a year) that started off as 54mm. The Spitfire wheels even a year later are faster then the OJ wheels, every set of OJ wheels I have tried have a sluggish feeling to them, glad I didn't pay for them. Anyone else have this issue?
Yeah I've had that problem too, it feels like driving with really under inflated tires. Also the 2 pairs I had got flat spots within 30 minutes.

Yup. 'Regular' OJ'thane feels slow as hell at 101 but feels ok on rough terrain (I've also flatted every set I've had skating smooth parks) 'Insane-a-thane' is totally different, after you get used to them, they as fast as SPFs in parks. Super hard and fast (some say they feel chalky...maybe at first).

I've learned my lesson with regular oj than, never again, rather just get spits.

Interestingly enough, many people at my local park are rocking oj insane-a-thane and two that I speak with regularly feel that everything else after riding them feels slow.

How do you think insane-a-thane handles on street terrain and how do they slide? Compared to 99a formula fours and bone stfs? Curious to try some.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: planman on November 28, 2017, 01:13:36 AM
Just ordered a board with the Mini logo A-cuts 101A, how are they? Everything they make always seems to be pretty solid
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on November 28, 2017, 12:33:24 PM
I recently won a set of OJ wheels (the Shrine ones that come with a tape) they are 55mm. I was skating some really old Spitfire Mike Anderson wheels before (like for a year) that started off as 54mm. The Spitfire wheels even a year later are faster then the OJ wheels, every set of OJ wheels I have tried have a sluggish feeling to them, glad I didn't pay for them. Anyone else have this issue?
Yeah I've had that problem too, it feels like driving with really under inflated tires. Also the 2 pairs I had got flat spots within 30 minutes.

Yup. 'Regular' OJ'thane feels slow as hell at 101 but feels ok on rough terrain (I've also flatted every set I've had skating smooth parks) 'Insane-a-thane' is totally different, after you get used to them, they as fast as SPFs in parks. Super hard and fast (some say they feel chalky...maybe at first).

I've learned my lesson with regular oj than, never again, rather just get spits.

Interestingly enough, many people at my local park are rocking oj insane-a-thane and two that I speak with regularly feel that everything else after riding them feels slow.

How do you think insane-a-thane handles on street terrain and how do they slide? Compared to 99a formula fours and bone stfs? Curious to try some.

They slide great, not as slippery as F4s, as for street, they're hard wheels, they'll rattle your teeth. F4s and even STFs are far more forgiving than the OJs.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Roisto on November 28, 2017, 08:58:22 PM
Just ordered a board with the Mini logo A-cuts 101A, how are they? Everything they make always seems to be pretty solid

Sticky and unpredictable slide compared to F4s. Other than that I guess they're alright. Just a bunch of wheels really. Nothing special.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: planman on November 28, 2017, 10:10:24 PM
Just ordered a board with the Mini logo A-cuts 101A, how are they? Everything they make always seems to be pretty solid

Sticky and unpredictable slide compared to F4s. Other than that I guess they're alright. Just a bunch of wheels really. Nothing special.
What about compared to classics? I don't powerslide a ton nor do I slide on ledges aside from boardslides so I think I'll be fine then
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jollyoli on November 29, 2017, 05:48:55 AM
Must agree with the OJII chat, was so bummed that they felt like one of your bearings was seized.
Can't see much beyond the f4 but I am skating a set of Alta's which are a great wheel but super hard, not so good on my weathered streets and old park but fully fly on new crete and give a long satisfying screech when asked to. Once they are done it's back to f4 classics.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on November 29, 2017, 07:37:15 AM
Just ordered a board with the Mini logo A-cuts 101A, how are they? Everything they make always seems to be pretty solid

Sticky and unpredictable slide compared to F4s. Other than that I guess they're alright. Just a bunch of wheels really. Nothing special.
What about compared to classics? I don't powerslide a ton nor do I slide on ledges aside from boardslides so I think I'll be fine then

https://youtu.be/fvZQVGGYQJc (https://youtu.be/fvZQVGGYQJc)

I've heard good things about the Bones 100's but not sure about mini logo....most Powell stuff I've bought has been pretty good...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: planman on November 29, 2017, 09:17:36 AM
Just ordered a board with the Mini logo A-cuts 101A, how are they? Everything they make always seems to be pretty solid

Sticky and unpredictable slide compared to F4s. Other than that I guess they're alright. Just a bunch of wheels really. Nothing special.
What about compared to classics? I don't powerslide a ton nor do I slide on ledges aside from boardslides so I think I'll be fine then

https://youtu.be/fvZQVGGYQJc (https://youtu.be/fvZQVGGYQJc)

I've heard good things about the Bones 100's but not sure about mini logo....most Powell stuff I've bought has been pretty good...
Pretty sure mini logo isn't owned by Powell anymore, also not stoked on how soft they seem, they'll be nice because Chicago has pretty shitty ground but I do too many 180s/disasters to not be able to slide. They're coming in today so maybe I'll feel different once I ride them myself.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on November 29, 2017, 10:00:59 AM
Nah.....it's all owned by GP....

Possibly different factory though....
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: dr.prestige on November 29, 2017, 12:08:42 PM
Just ordered a board with the Mini logo A-cuts 101A, how are they? Everything they make always seems to be pretty solid

Considering that they're something like 15 bucks for a set, I like them. They're noticeably stickier than Spitfires, but I skate a lot of transition and slippery ass parks so I don't really mind. They're reasonably durable as well, they seem to have kept their shape and size so far. While I'm probably going to go back to Spits or Bones after this it's nice to know there are some under $20 wheels that perform almost as well as some nearly $40 ones. I would get them if you want new wheels but are strapped for cash at the moment, or want a harder wheel that grips more than other brands.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on November 29, 2017, 04:43:48 PM
stay on f4's or support the little guys and get a pair of sml.s?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: chodekaka on November 29, 2017, 07:11:59 PM
stay on f4's or support the little guys and get a pair of sml.s?
Do you know baskwith
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on November 29, 2017, 09:47:42 PM
stay on f4's or support the little guys and get a pair of sml.s?
Do you know baskwith
can't say I do...
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on November 29, 2017, 11:16:00 PM
Just ordered a board with the Mini logo A-cuts 101A, how are they? Everything they make always seems to be pretty solid

Considering that they're something like 15 bucks for a set, I like them. They're noticeably stickier than Spitfires, but I skate a lot of transition and slippery ass parks so I don't really mind. They're reasonably durable as well, they seem to have kept their shape and size so far. While I'm probably going to go back to Spits or Bones after this it's nice to know there are some under $20 wheels that perform almost as well as some nearly $40 ones. I would get them if you want new wheels but are strapped for cash at the moment, or want a harder wheel that grips more than other brands.

Not considering graphics..I think mini logo stuff is as good or better than half the stuff out there....

It's just not as good as the other half....
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: chodekaka on November 30, 2017, 07:13:03 AM
stay on f4's or support the little guys and get a pair of sml.s?
Do you know baskwith
can't say I do...
Okay thank you people were asking
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on November 30, 2017, 10:11:18 AM
stay on f4's or support the little guys and get a pair of sml.s?

SMLs are good (I found them grippy and slower than say, STFs or F4s), Waywards are good (they feel exactly like F4s to me, except less slippery on the 101s), the smaller brands are made in the same places as the bigger wheel cos (except Bones and Spit since they are proprietary), Just like Autobahn (RIP) was.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: gumi on November 30, 2017, 10:31:38 AM
Waywards are fuckin rad wheels, you won't be disappointed
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Silky Johnson on November 30, 2017, 03:56:51 PM
Been on the F4 train for a few years now but just pulled the trigger on some 101a OJ insanethanes, for $20 bucks. Pretty excited to see how they skate
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on November 30, 2017, 04:28:23 PM
Okay thank you people were asking
k (I still don't have an idea what you're talking about though)

SMLs are good (I found them grippy and slower than say, STFs or F4s), Waywards are good (they feel exactly like F4s to me, except less slippery on the 101s),
hmmm maybe I shouldn't make the switch then. I'm on a set of radial slims that I've had for a year and they are still going strong
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: chodekaka on November 30, 2017, 05:58:15 PM
Okay thank you people were asking
k (I still don't have an idea what you're talking about though)

SMLs are good (I found them grippy and slower than say, STFs or F4s), Waywards are good (they feel exactly like F4s to me, except less slippery on the 101s),
hmmm maybe I shouldn't make the switch then. I'm on a set of radial slims that I've had for a year and they are still going strong
Are you from Australia? Baskwith is a skater from Australia. For some reason I seem to think you are from Australia.  Wondering if you knew him.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on November 30, 2017, 07:26:14 PM
I'm an Aussie but haven't lived there for over 10 years now...
which state is he from?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: chodekaka on November 30, 2017, 09:16:31 PM
I'm an Aussie but haven't lived there for over 10 years now...
which state is he from?
I believe it would be Victoria, near Melbourne sort of. I skated a place called noble park and some park in dandenong with him a few times but this was years ago I can’t remember very well. He was on flow for folklore, or maybe it was called fibretech? He posted some vids on YouTube of skating before it was big but then stopped and said he might have brain cancer or something. Then fell off and we lost contact. I’m from Canada so I have no idea if he is still alive or what happened to him. Definitely was a stupid question and a shot in the dark that you would know of him.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on November 30, 2017, 09:36:31 PM
hahaha no I'm a Sydney boy but there are some VIC boys that post on here (RIP Jedi), maybe post in here?
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=96782.0
lots of knowledgeable heads in that thread
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on December 01, 2017, 12:13:12 AM
Mini logo wheels are id say exactly bones 100 they feel super smooth and soft but can slide if you really need to but not as good as f4 or stf, in my opinion definitely better than spit classics and like someone said half of the wheels on the market but in the end if you want more slide and donít care for speed or smoothness f4 are very slippery and board feel wheels

I prefer stfís cause theyíre smoother and faster and still slide well, not as good as f4 but I donít slide everywhere I go like the crazy hip kids
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Sandboxcop on December 02, 2017, 02:26:46 PM
Okay thank you people were asking
k (I still don't have an idea what you're talking about though)

SMLs are good (I found them grippy and slower than say, STFs or F4s), Waywards are good (they feel exactly like F4s to me, except less slippery on the 101s),
hmmm maybe I shouldn't make the switch then. I'm on a set of radial slims that I've had for a year and they are still going strong

Just started running the SML AG formula, definitely slower than any higher end spits, more controlled slide for me personally though. On my cruiser I have the V cut replacing Syvanen Oj's and they're way faster than the OJ's. Can't comment on slide yet
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on December 03, 2017, 02:06:12 PM
Okay thank you people were asking
k (I still don't have an idea what you're talking about though)

SMLs are good (I found them grippy and slower than say, STFs or F4s), Waywards are good (they feel exactly like F4s to me, except less slippery on the 101s),
hmmm maybe I shouldn't make the switch then. I'm on a set of radial slims that I've had for a year and they are still going strong

Just started running the SML AG formula, definitely slower than any higher end spits, more controlled slide for me personally though. On my cruiser I have the V cut replacing Syvanen Oj's and they're way faster than the OJ's. Can't comment on slide yet

Yeah, you are running the regular OJ(III) urethane, slow and squishy; the SMLswould run circles around them...BUT, those regular OJs are great for regular/fucked up terrain.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on December 03, 2017, 05:12:52 PM
Just started running the SML AG formula, definitely slower than any higher end spits, more controlled slide for me personally though. On my cruiser I have the V cut replacing Syvanen Oj's and they're way faster than the OJ's. Can't comment on slide yet
cheers for that. after going for another roll yesterday I'm pretty convinced that I have to stay on F4s forever now, not really a problem per se but I did want to support James after seeing his 9 club ep
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Silky Johnson on December 03, 2017, 05:25:48 PM
Gave my 101a insaneathanes a go and I'm really stoked on them, kinda slippery at the start especially coming off of skating 99a f4s but I adjusted eventually and got some fun curb tricks.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: TheVisitor on December 05, 2017, 09:42:17 PM
What is the optimal wheel size/hardness for street skating crusty ass spots. I'm skating some 49mm right now but they aren't cutting it on regular asphalt or anything that isn't smooth skatepark surface. Losing too much speed despite the fact that I'm running Bones Swiss. I was thinking 52/53mm with 99A hardness would be good?

Always wondered what size wheels those GX1000 and LurkNYC dudes rode. Same thing with Palace, I know some of those London spots are crusty as fuck.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jared on December 05, 2017, 09:48:30 PM
What is the optimal wheel size/hardness for street skating crusty ass spots. I'm skating some 49mm right now but they aren't cutting it on regular asphalt or anything that isn't smooth skatepark surface. Losing too much speed despite the fact that I'm running Bones Swiss. I was thinking 52/53mm with 99A hardness would be good?

Always wondered what size wheels those GX1000 and LurkNYC dudes rode. Same thing with Palace, I know some of those London spots are crusty as fuck.
I definitely suggest sizing up, you'll have a lot more fun skating with a bigger wheel(imo). I'd suggest taking it up to a 53/54. If you're skating suuuuper crusty shit I'd suggest 101a but 99a should do just fine.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on December 05, 2017, 09:51:44 PM
What is the optimal wheel size/hardness for street skating crusty ass spots. I'm skating some 49mm right now but they aren't cutting it on regular asphalt or anything that isn't smooth skatepark surface. Losing too much speed despite the fact that I'm running Bones Swiss. I was thinking 52/53mm with 99A hardness would be good?

Always wondered what size wheels those GX1000 and LurkNYC dudes rode. Same thing with Palace, I know some of those London spots are crusty as fuck.

I used to skate wheels in the 52mm range and would prefer it best when it was about 50mm due to the lower center of gravity. I definitely prefer the 54-55mm range now. So much nicer on shitty ground and you keep your speed better. As far as hardness goes, I think the hardness of 99a f4s is ideal, 101s are a bit too jarring on rough ground imo. But wheels have different formulas so hardness and how a wheel handles shit ground varies between different wheels even if they have the same durometer so keep that in mind.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on December 05, 2017, 10:16:24 PM
What is the optimal wheel size/hardness for street skating crusty ass spots. I'm skating some 49mm right now but they aren't cutting it on regular asphalt or anything that isn't smooth skatepark surface. Losing too much speed despite the fact that I'm running Bones Swiss. I was thinking 52/53mm with 99A hardness would be good?

Always wondered what size wheels those GX1000 and LurkNYC dudes rode. Same thing with Palace, I know some of those London spots are crusty as fuck.

It may sound off but definitely some 53/54 bones stf, the formula is great against crusty terrain and getting and holding speed, so far from my experience(2/3 years of at least 4/5 sets of formula fours in all the major shapes) formula fours are just good for sliding and thatís it, speed and rebound definitely goto bones stf.

I skate long distances and I use to think bones were plasticy and hard but skating these distances got me curious and I swapped wheels to wheels(spitfire f4, classics, gold, pig, oj classic and insane a thane, bones and mini logo) and so far bones stf took rough road and held its speed and retained it even better on smooth sidewalk.

Bones has been making wheels since the beginning and they made the perfect street wheel, itís half smooth like a cruiser wheel but still hard enough to slide like a street wheel
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on December 05, 2017, 10:36:27 PM
What is the optimal wheel size/hardness for street skating crusty ass spots. I'm skating some 49mm right now but they aren't cutting it on regular asphalt or anything that isn't smooth skatepark surface. Losing too much speed despite the fact that I'm running Bones Swiss. I was thinking 52/53mm with 99A hardness would be good?

Always wondered what size wheels those GX1000 and LurkNYC dudes rode. Same thing with Palace, I know some of those London spots are crusty as fuck.

It may sound off but definitely some 53/54 bones stf, the formula is great against crusty terrain and getting and holding speed, so far from my experience(2/3 years of at least 4/5 sets of formula fours in all the major shapes) formula fours are just good for sliding and thatís it, speed and rebound definitely goto bones stf.

I skate long distances and I use to think bones were plasticy and hard but skating these distances got me curious and I swapped wheels to wheels(spitfire f4, classics, gold, pig, oj classic and insane a thane, bones and mini logo) and so far bones stf took rough road and held its speed and retained it even better on smooth sidewalk.

Bones has been making wheels since the beginning and they made the perfect street wheel, itís half smooth like a cruiser wheel but still hard enough to slide like a street wheel

I agree with the sentiment that bones stfs are more forgiving on rough terrain, they almost feel soft(perhaps absorbent is a better word to describe it... idk), though they're obviously not as they're 83b. I also actually prefer the slide of stfs over 99 f4s too, the screech is less high pitched and feels more controllable to me. Just not a fan of how plasticky they feel, despite their performance.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on December 05, 2017, 11:06:52 PM
Want to try something other than f4s and stf variants. Had ricta nrgs once and while they were fast wasn't a fan of how they slid, similar story with autobahns.

Thinking about getting either oj insaneathanes, smls, waywards(99 or 101 not sure yet), or crupies. Anyone have any input on those options or have any other suggestions? Ideally something that stays white, holds speed well and slides on ledges good but is also forgiving on shit ground.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Randozzi on December 05, 2017, 11:12:30 PM
Been skating Prize Fighter Cutlery 54mm on the rough ground of the Pacific Northwest. They are 101s but don't rattle your bones like some others do. They slide great and grip when you need them to. I put them up there with F4s but I'm a little biased.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: commander jameson on December 06, 2017, 01:28:47 AM
Want to try something other than f4s and stf variants. Had ricta nrgs once and while they were fast wasn't a fan of how they slid, similar story with autobahns.

Thinking about getting either oj insaneathanes, smls, waywards(99 or 101 not sure yet), or crupies. Anyone have any input on those options or have any other suggestions? Ideally something that stays white, holds speed well and slides on ledges good but is also forgiving on shit ground.

I skated only Bones STF for long time. Recently tried Crupies and I was so impressed with them that I bought couple more sets during Black Friday sales.
Great wheels at great price. They are almost two times cheaper and they are on par with STF (haven't tried F4 yet). Slide well, fast and durable.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tangar on December 06, 2017, 04:24:12 PM
I would recommend Wayward 101s to anyone looking to try  something new. Iím on my third set in a row and I really like them. They seem hard and plasticky for the first couple sessions but once they are broken in they grip really well and keep their slide. Iíve been skating the round slims on street and at skateparks and the only time Iíve slipped out was on the first day of one set.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on December 06, 2017, 05:25:23 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys, how would you guys say the wayward 101s and crupies compare to 99 or 101 f4s and stfs in terms of slide and grip?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: DaSk8D00D on December 06, 2017, 05:47:37 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys, how would you guys say the wayward 101s and crupies compare to 99 or 101 f4s and stfs in terms of slide and grip?

Compared to F4ís Iíd say that Crupies feel somewhere between their 99-101duros. Theyíre listed as 101ís but theyíre not as slippery on smooth surfaces as F4 101ís, or as grippy/forgiving as the 99ís. Itís a really good balance tho. Grinds, powerslides, and tricks that revert across the ground feel great and have a nice squeal to them. Their team is sick too I think they just put Yuri Facchini too. Excellent street wheels and theyíre usually a couple dollars cheaper than the competitors as well
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on December 06, 2017, 05:55:35 PM
How do crupies feel in park? Both F4s and waywards feel slow to me (compared to say, OJ insanes, Spfs and RICTA. I'd love to support another small company.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on December 06, 2017, 08:31:13 PM
Thanks guys, just pulled the trigger on some 53mm team logo crupies(the 5 pack), wish my local shop had a bigger range so I could check them out in person and cop. They seem like a slim-ish classic shape. Should be interesting transitioning from my 55mm 99a lock ins which are a little wide for my liking.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Sandboxcop on December 07, 2017, 04:26:10 PM
Just got in some PFC 53's, can't wait to see how they operate
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on December 08, 2017, 08:16:54 PM
Always wanted to try PFC. got really worried when they didn't have a drop for a year or so. Down to support Ray though especially after his 500 F episode. Let me know what you think please..
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: SJ on December 08, 2017, 09:22:22 PM
Has anybody tried the 81b SPFs and if so how do they fare?

My go to wheel for smooth concrete bowls are the 84b SPFs 60mm but whenever I go to a really weathered or spraypainted bowl it feels like I'm skating on ice and it's super slippery so I usually end up switching to 99a conical full formula fours in those instances. The 81B SPFs sound like they would work pretty good for rough bowls but has anybody here had any experience with them?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on December 08, 2017, 11:46:34 PM
How are crupie compared to bones stf?

I feel like they would be like an stf just less plastic feeling and more urethane wheel feeling like a spit classic but obviously better
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: commander jameson on December 09, 2017, 01:15:58 AM
How are crupie compared to bones stf?

I feel like they would be like an stf just less plastic feeling and more urethane wheel feeling like a spit classic but obviously better

Spot on.
I was bones stf guy for longest time but crupies are really on par with them costing way less.
Spots I skate are mostly smooth euro plaza stuff or some rough asphalt spots and crupies are great in both cases. Slide well and are durable.
Great quality wheels.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on December 10, 2017, 09:39:55 AM
Has anybody tried the 81b SPFs and if so how do they fare?

My go to wheel for smooth concrete bowls are the 84b SPFs 60mm but whenever I go to a really weathered or spraypainted bowl it feels like I'm skating on ice and it's super slippery so I usually end up switching to 99a conical full formula fours in those instances. The 81B SPFs sound like they would work pretty good for rough bowls but has anybody here had any experience with them?

Yah....I think these would be sick....I have a set and I use them for skating just around my house/rougher street....

They feel a bit sticky and dampening....they take the edge off a bit of rougher spots...

I was a big fan of the ditchtech and emailed Powell about it....I think they may look at pushing the hardness up on the rough riders to something which is more conventional....
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Willie on December 10, 2017, 02:50:12 PM
Has anybody tried the 81b SPFs and if so how do they fare?

My go to wheel for smooth concrete bowls are the 84b SPFs 60mm but whenever I go to a really weathered or spraypainted bowl it feels like I'm skating on ice and it's super slippery so I usually end up switching to 99a conical full formula fours in those instances. The 81B SPFs sound like they would work pretty good for rough bowls but has anybody here had any experience with them?

Yah....I think these would be sick....I have a set and I use them for skating just around my house/rougher street....

They feel a bit sticky and dampening....they take the edge off a bit of rougher spots...

I was a big fan of the ditchtech and emailed Powell about it....I think they may look at pushing the hardness up on the rough riders to something which is more conventional....

I had 2 sets of Ditch Techs and the 2nd ones just felt way too soft. They may have been slightly wider as well but either way they felt dull and bouncy. Were they 81b?

Didn't know they had a new durometer of SPFs. I don't like the normal ones on my crusty, painted park surface - it feels like they are going to slip out at any moment.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on December 10, 2017, 06:30:17 PM
Ditch tech was way softer I'm pretty sure....they were like a 90 something A where the 81's are a 101.

I always found SPF's to be sticky....I skate the regular ones on a slippery ramp and they are great.

Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on December 12, 2017, 08:32:31 PM
Ditch tech was way softer I'm pretty sure....they were like a 90 something A where the 81's are a 101.

I always found SPF's to be sticky....I skate the regular ones on a slippery ramp and they are great.
I have had multiple sets of STGs and they are icy. However my friend has SPFs and I agree that thy are pretty damn sticky which is weird because they are even harder than STFs. 
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: j....soy..... on December 12, 2017, 08:57:25 PM
Yah...that's the phenomenon part.....the stickiness makes them feel softer too which is nuts....

I think another option if everything I've said makes no sense is drop to a 97A in like NHS product or a 99 formula 1....
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Thomas on December 13, 2017, 03:58:23 AM
Are Conical F4 similar to Bones STF V5 in term of size ?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on December 13, 2017, 06:23:49 AM
Are Conical F4 similar to Bones STF V5 in term of size ?

Conicals are a bit wider at the same height.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on December 13, 2017, 01:56:00 PM
Gave my 101a insaneathanes a go and I'm really stoked on them, kinda slippery at the start especially coming off of skating 99a f4s but I adjusted eventually and got some fun curb tricks.
I got the classic shaped ones and honestly, they'll be like that for a bit then suck at sliding
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Silky Johnson on December 13, 2017, 02:19:36 PM
Gave my 101a insaneathanes a go and I'm really stoked on them, kinda slippery at the start especially coming off of skating 99a f4s but I adjusted eventually and got some fun curb tricks.
I got the classic shaped ones and honestly, they'll be like that for a bit then suck at sliding
Damn well I'll enjoy them for now I guess, but no complaints for a wheel I picked up for $20
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Nallid on December 14, 2017, 09:27:41 PM
I bought Crupies. 53 Sarmientos, they were like $22. Am I going to slip out and die tomorrow?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on December 15, 2017, 03:45:49 PM
Skated my crupies a few times, not too impressed right now to be honest. Maybe it will be better when the tread goes away though. Slide feels nice on the right asphalt, but some concrete sidewalks it almost doesnt slide at all. Definitely a bit unpredictable. Breaking into the slide is also a bit inconsistent. I got the apex logo 5 pack, 53mm and they are ridiculously slim. The riding surface is exactly half the riding surface on my 55mm lock ins which I was skating prior to this, also significantly slimmer than 54mm f4 classics. As a result, you can definitely feel it struggling on shitty ground, loses speed easily. Feels amazing on smooth park ground though. Really hoping the slide becomes better once the tread wears away.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: DaSk8D00D on December 15, 2017, 05:08:28 PM
Yeah I know what you mean about the tread, they definitely slide better once itís worn down. I grabbed the Ribeiro & Tiago wheels not only cuz theyíre some of favorite pros but because their particular models also have a wider riding surface than the ďteamĒ wheels by a couple millimeters or so. They have measurements listed on their site when you go to shop so Iíd use that as a guide before buying some
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: fulfillthedream on December 15, 2017, 10:02:22 PM
all ive skated are f4's since 2013.. i can't imagine ever wanting to try anything else  :-X
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on December 16, 2017, 01:55:17 AM
all ive skated are f4's since 2013.. i can't imagine ever wanting to try anything else  :-X

Thatís what I thought too when I first got a set from jim himself but sadly 5 sets later I realized how slow and jittery f4ís are compared to bones stf, the stf are faster, retain speed better, and rebound better and definitely way smoother

So glad to hear more about crupie cause I was in such a rut thinking about them and if I should try them and now I know Iím just gonna stick to my bones until they possibly restock on wreck at some point
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on December 18, 2017, 10:41:08 AM
all ive skated are f4's since 2013.. i can't imagine ever wanting to try anything else  :-X

Thatís what I thought too when I first got a set from jim himself but sadly 5 sets later I realized how slow and jittery f4ís are compared to bones stf, the stf are faster, retain speed better, and rebound better and definitely way smoother

So glad to hear more about crupie cause I was in such a rut thinking about them and if I should try them and now I know Iím just gonna stick to my bones until they possibly restock on wreck at some point

I feel like this is troll bait :)

Wrecks just take too much effort to slide, otherwise decent (I was a fan).
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: nsskater1993 on December 18, 2017, 03:21:28 PM
Hey Slap!

Thinking about ordering some new wheels for Christmas. Basically I have the option of some spitfire f4 classic shapes (99s or 101) for 45$ CAD Some OJ ez edge insaneathane team rider 101a 54mm for 31$ CAD Or some Bones STF for 31-35$ CAD.

The fact that I've already tried stf's and f4's has me leaning towards the OJ's to try something new. I really like F4's, and find their slide and feel to be really nice. I could also satisfy my want to try something new by trying a different duro of spits (my first set was 99a, could switch it up to 101's) or a different shape of STF's (first set was the V1, have the option to buy some v2's) although I'm sure the difference isn't very big.

I was hoping some of you could help me make a decision, as I'm not sure what to go for. The OJ's and Bones are cheaper, so if I liked them I'd be saving some coin. I am really used to the f4's though, and I don't know if I should stray away from the tried and true. Anybody with experience on OJ's insaneathane able to weigh in on this situation? any help is appreciated, thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Gino's Back 180 Nosegrind on December 18, 2017, 06:04:33 PM
Hey Slap!

Thinking about ordering some new wheels for Christmas. Basically I have the option of some spitfire f4 classic shapes (99s or 101) for 45$ CAD Some OJ ez edge insaneathane team rider 101a 54mm for 31$ CAD Or some Bones STF for 31-35$ CAD.

The fact that I've already tried stf's and f4's has me leaning towards the OJ's to try something new. I really like F4's, and find their slide and feel to be really nice. I could also satisfy my want to try something new by trying a different duro of spits (my first set was 99a, could switch it up to 101's) or a different shape of STF's (first set was the V1, have the option to buy some v2's) although I'm sure the difference isn't very big.

I was hoping some of you could help me make a decision, as I'm not sure what to go for. The OJ's and Bones are cheaper, so if I liked them I'd be saving some coin. I am really used to the f4's though, and I don't know if I should stray away from the tried and true. Anybody with experience on OJ's insaneathane able to weigh in on this situation? any help is appreciated, thanks in advance.

If you have absolutely no complaints with F4's you probably won't find a better wheel. I've had all 3. Bones are too slide-y for me and insaneathanes were chalky and didn't slide enough. F4's are perfect for me. I ride 99a 54mm and try to skate as much street as I can.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on December 18, 2017, 06:26:15 PM
Donít get oj, they feel good and smooth like a bones stf but they are slow as balls! Literally so slow itís sad such a cool wheel brand has such trash wheels.

Seriously if your going for a trick up a bank your not gonna make it unless you push hard

Nah no troll bait, I wanna try wreck with all their comparisons and claims being the worlds best urethane and backed by years of experience with darkstars famous urethane formulas, they look like a more slidy stf but hopefully weíll see
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on December 18, 2017, 07:49:23 PM
Donít get oj, they feel good and smooth like a bones stf but they are slow as balls! Literally so slow itís sad such a cool wheel brand has such trash wheels.

Seriously if your going for a trick up a bank your not gonna make it unless you push hard

Nah no troll bait, I wanna try wreck with all their comparisons and claims being the worlds best urethane and backed by years of experience with darkstars famous urethane formulas, they look like a more slidy stf but hopefully weíll see

OJ Insane a thane is awesome, way better than regular OJ thane.

Wrecks are NOT a more slidy STF, quite the opposite.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: nsskater1993 on December 18, 2017, 08:27:58 PM
Donít get oj, they feel good and smooth like a bones stf but they are slow as balls! Literally so slow itís sad such a cool wheel brand has such trash wheels.

Seriously if your going for a trick up a bank your not gonna make it unless you push hard

Nah no troll bait, I wanna try wreck with all their comparisons and claims being the worlds best urethane and backed by years of experience with darkstars famous urethane formulas, they look like a more slidy stf but hopefully weíll see

OJ Insane a thane is awesome, way better than regular OJ thane.

Wrecks are NOT a more slidy STF, quite the opposite.

Haha this is why I had to ask! I noticed a lot of differing opinions around the net, and don't really know enough people with experience on OJ's to ask anyone personally. For every two or three people that say oj's wheels suck I see someone saying that the insaneathane's are pretty good. Any word on how you'd compare them to F4's? I really want to give them a shot, I know they back some rad skaters and have a pretty big history in the industry. Just not sure if that's worth ditching what I know I like. The madness is real..
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on December 18, 2017, 09:49:45 PM
Sorry xen but ima have to disagree with the oj still, I have the insane a thane 99 and I liked them until I noticed how slow they are

Stay safe and get f4 or stf, my preference is stf because theyíre just overall good on speed, rebound, and slide.

F4 are like I said really slidy but speed and rebound I did not like

I skate street 99% of the time btw, not really or ever been a park monger
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on December 18, 2017, 10:16:53 PM
Sorry xen but ima have to disagree with the oj still, I have the insane a thane 99 and I liked them until I noticed how slow they are

Stay safe and get f4 or stf, my preference is stf because theyíre just overall good on speed, rebound, and slide.

F4 are like I said really slidy but speed and rebound I did not like

I skate street 99% of the time btw, not really or ever been a park monger

I too, have ridden them all.

Enjoy those wrecks, maybe you can set them up on your Industrials?  :o





Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Trashcon on December 18, 2017, 11:01:11 PM
Been riding Ricta 51 Speed Rings for a while now.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on December 18, 2017, 11:08:07 PM
Sorry xen but ima have to disagree with the oj still, I have the insane a thane 99 and I liked them until I noticed how slow they are

Stay safe and get f4 or stf, my preference is stf because theyíre just overall good on speed, rebound, and slide.

F4 are like I said really slidy but speed and rebound I did not like

I skate street 99% of the time btw, not really or ever been a park monger

I too, have ridden them all.

Enjoy those wrecks, maybe you can set them up on your Industrials?  :o

Haha I was thinking to try some since theyíre so cheap too but they just look like a Indy stage 10 knock off so meh maybe one day
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: TwisT on December 19, 2017, 07:25:26 AM
Been riding Ricta 51 Speed Rings for a while now.

What do you think? I had a pair, then bought some bones spf, and liked the speed rings better, then bought another pair, then bought f4's.

I liked the speed rings better both times but gave them away. I can't find them anymore so now I bought some ricta 101a naturals
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on December 19, 2017, 02:31:37 PM
Been riding Ricta 51 Speed Rings for a while now.

What do you think? I had a pair, then bought some bones spf, and liked the speed rings better, then bought another pair, then bought f4's.

I liked the speed rings better both times but gave them away. I can't find them anymore so now I bought some ricta 101a naturals

I loved me some speed rings, had better thane than the chrome cores, but they flatted easy in parks. Been wanting to snag some naturals but they are much too wide for my liking.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: colt cannon lunchbox on December 22, 2017, 04:08:21 PM
Can wheels spoil? Eyeing off some autobahns atm that I am certain have been sitting in a cabinet for at least 5 years
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: nopes on December 22, 2017, 04:48:01 PM
shit i hope not because i have 3 sets of 15 year old autobahns still in shrink wrap sitting in my basement.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: JusticeAbberdash on December 22, 2017, 07:42:49 PM
How long is urethane supposed to stay stable and fresh?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: TwisT on December 22, 2017, 08:14:25 PM
I thought you were suppose to keep them in the freezer so they wonít spoil
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: JusticeAbberdash on December 22, 2017, 09:09:36 PM
Spitfires turn into rocks when they get old. What happens to bones when they're past the expiration date?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Deekay on December 23, 2017, 05:44:49 AM
I can only speak for Spits but if you go from a newer set of wheels to a set that's been sititing a while.. You'll think you put clay on there instead of wheels, so goddamn slow.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on December 23, 2017, 06:10:08 AM
updated review on my g slides.  -they are cool.  They aren't too boingee but there's no way to really slide them.  I think longboarders can slide them but I can't.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: JusticeAbberdash on December 23, 2017, 08:25:43 AM
updated review on my g slides.  -they are cool.  They aren't too boingee but there's no way to really slide them.  I think longboarders can slide them but I can't.

Longboarders could slide a 50a wheel..

Skateboarders complain that 101a's are too sticky.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Budgie Lasek on December 23, 2017, 12:02:13 PM
Donít get oj, they feel good and smooth like a bones stf but they are slow as balls! Literally so slow itís sad such a cool wheel brand has such trash wheels.

Seriously if your going for a trick up a bank your not gonna make it unless you push hard

Nah no troll bait, I wanna try wreck with all their comparisons and claims being the worlds best urethane and backed by years of experience with darkstars famous urethane formulas, they look like a more slidy stf but hopefully weíll see

Regular OJ's are the standard Creative Urethanes compound that is used for a lot of brands. It's garbage. Slow, flatspots very easily, and yellows fast. When I worked in distribution it seemed like any random company who wanted some wheels got them made there, and they always sucked. Momentum used them for years, maybe they still do.

Spitfire F4s are ok, but I can't get down with brand new wheels looking like they're 3 years old and yellowed to shit... and they aren't quite on the quality level of Bones. I rode a few pairs, still flat spotted them, and was happy to get back on STFs.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: JusticeAbberdash on December 23, 2017, 12:12:57 PM
Donít get oj, they feel good and smooth like a bones stf but they are slow as balls! Literally so slow itís sad such a cool wheel brand has such trash wheels.

Seriously if your going for a trick up a bank your not gonna make it unless you push hard

Nah no troll bait, I wanna try wreck with all their comparisons and claims being the worlds best urethane and backed by years of experience with darkstars famous urethane formulas, they look like a more slidy stf but hopefully weíll see

Regular OJ's are the standard Creative Urethanes compound that is used for a lot of brands. It's garbage. Slow, flatspots very easily, and yellows fast. When I worked in distribution it seemed like any random company who wanted some wheels got them made there, and they always sucked. Momentum used them for years, maybe they still do.

Spitfire F4s are ok, but I can't get down with brand new wheels looking like they're 3 years old and yellowed to shit... and they aren't quite on the quality level of Bones. I rode a few pairs, still flat spotted them, and was happy to get back on STFs.

This fits with a lot of peoples thinking. Bones doesn't need to put so much effort into advertising.. They've been working on their urethane for years, spits just barely figured out how to mix things right.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on December 23, 2017, 12:41:41 PM
Donít get oj, they feel good and smooth like a bones stf but they are slow as balls! Literally so slow itís sad such a cool wheel brand has such trash wheels.

Seriously if your going for a trick up a bank your not gonna make it unless you push hard

Nah no troll bait, I wanna try wreck with all their comparisons and claims being the worlds best urethane and backed by years of experience with darkstars famous urethane formulas, they look like a more slidy stf but hopefully weíll see

Regular OJ's are the standard Creative Urethanes compound that is used for a lot of brands. It's garbage. Slow, flatspots very easily, and yellows fast. When I worked in distribution it seemed like any random company who wanted some wheels got them made there, and they always sucked. Momentum used them for years, maybe they still do.

Spitfire F4s are ok, but I can't get down with brand new wheels looking like they're 3 years old and yellowed to shit... and they aren't quite on the quality level of Bones. I rode a few pairs, still flat spotted them, and was happy to get back on STFs.

This fits with a lot of peoples thinking. Bones doesn't need to put so much effort into advertising.. They've been working on their urethane for years, spits just barely figured out how to mix things right.

Thatís what Iím sayin  ;D

And thatís why I wanna try wreck, chet Thomas who made them was doing darkstar wheels before and has 30 years of wheel making experience claims ďthe worlds best urethaneĒ on these so letís see if this is true but xen disagrees and he has tried them so idk

I really just love the way bones stf grips and rolls/feels like a soft wheel but still slide easier than the standard 99a even 101a wheels AND how they rebound, they donít bounce and jitter like crazy on bad ground theyíre like cruiser wheels almost and just roll through it as smooth as a street wheel could possibly

That was one of my biggest turn offs to f4 was the lack of speed/free roll(distance after pushing really) and resistance to harsh ground, slides better and feels like a real urethane wheel but not as fast and smooth as bones stf

Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Budgie Lasek on December 23, 2017, 02:06:49 PM
I look at it like this - Spitfire is a 'cooler' brand with better art direction, marketing and team etc. Bones is Powell, so less cool points, but way more experience developing wheel compounds and pretty much all emphasis put on quality and innovation. The wheels are better, period. Spitfire could only get close by selling wheels that come already brown, and they don't have nearly the longevity that a pair of Bones does. I'm always amazed at how long I end up riding a set.

Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on December 23, 2017, 04:21:03 PM
updated review on my g slides.  -they are cool.  They aren't too boingee but there's no way to really slide them.  I think longboarders can slide them but I can't.

Longboarders could slide a 50a wheel..

Skateboarders complain that 101a's are too sticky.
  I'm starting to think hard skinny 62mms would be better for shitty ground than softer 56mms cause I could still slide.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on December 23, 2017, 04:24:24 PM
updated review on my g slides.  -they are cool.  They aren't too boingee but there's no way to really slide them.  I think longboarders can slide them but I can't.

Longboarders could slide a 50a wheel..

Skateboarders complain that 101a's are too sticky.
seriously. I bought some 86a wheels that are supposed to be amazing for slides but i couldn't slide them if my life depended on it.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: SJ on December 26, 2017, 09:44:04 PM
Has anybody tried Alta wheels? They have some heavy hitters on their team so I was wondering how the wheels perform for transition skating.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Sandboxcop on December 27, 2017, 07:00:44 AM
Always wanted to try PFC. got really worried when they didn't have a drop for a year or so. Down to support Ray though especially after his 500 F episode. Let me know what you think please..

Only skated them for 2 sessions but I like them, I usually dont run 101's but they slid well and were faster than the sml's I had on. Nice and wide too if that's your bag
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on December 28, 2017, 02:42:29 PM
How are waywards and Portland wheel companyís ?

I heard good things about wayward but I feel since Iím good with bones why even try another wheel when theyíre bones
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Cherb on December 28, 2017, 03:01:26 PM
How are waywards and Portland wheel companyís ?

I heard good things about wayward but I feel since Iím good with bones why even try another wheel when theyíre bones
I believe people compare wayward to spitfire f4's.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on December 28, 2017, 05:32:01 PM
How are waywards and Portland wheel companyís ?

I heard good things about wayward but I feel since Iím good with bones why even try another wheel when theyíre bones
I believe people compare wayward to spitfire f4's.

Yeah last I read it was mentioned theyíre like between 99 and 101 f4 and I can tell theyíre good maybe better than f4ís but Iím very fond of my bones and they way they feel and roll.

Really though for me itís about speed and rebound than slide or much else, cause every wheel Iíve tried compared to bones stf feel so slow, 101 f4, 99 f4, even when I had 54mm radials(not the slim) still slow, oj insane a thane 99 I had high hopes but way slower even slower than f4, gold was basically a harder classic, pig weíre just rocks, spit classic are eh kinda slow, ricta NRG is a gimmick, and bones100/mini logo were ok but still not as fast and good roll time as stf

I kinda miss the feel of a more natural urethane but I canít stand the lag
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tangar on December 28, 2017, 09:37:03 PM
^ if you couldnít get any of those wheels to ďfeelĒ fast, Iím pretty sure you just need to push harder. I just ordered some Powerflex 52mm Gumballs On tactics with the extra 10% off sale shit. Will keep you guys posted on how they are.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on December 28, 2017, 10:03:56 PM
^ if you couldnít get any of those wheels to ďfeelĒ fast, Iím pretty sure you just need to push harder. I just ordered some Powerflex 52mm Gumballs On tactics with the extra 10% off sale shit. Will keep you guys posted on how they are.

But how much energy should you waste with slow wheels to get a trick Especially up banks or over stuff, like for me itís how much speed is loss on rough ground that ticks me and how much the wheels jitter as I set up
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on December 28, 2017, 11:09:27 PM
^ if you couldnít get any of those wheels to ďfeelĒ fast, Iím pretty sure you just need to push harder. I just ordered some Powerflex 52mm Gumballs On tactics with the extra 10% off sale shit. Will keep you guys posted on how they are.

But how much energy should you waste with slow wheels to get a trick Especially up banks or over stuff, like for me itís how much speed is loss on rough ground that ticks me and how much the wheels jitter as I set up

It might just be in my head, but I kind of agree that stfs hold their speed a little better. But how bad is the ground you skate? It really shouldn't be that much of a difference if nobody else has ever bought it up. If you skate really shitty ground then it might help more to get a wider wheel.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on December 28, 2017, 11:19:01 PM
^ if you couldn’t get any of those wheels to “feel” fast, I’m pretty sure you just need to push harder. I just ordered some Powerflex 52mm Gumballs On tactics with the extra 10% off sale shit. Will keep you guys posted on how they are.

But how much energy should you waste with slow wheels to get a trick Especially up banks or over stuff, like for me it’s how much speed is loss on rough ground that ticks me and how much the wheels jitter as I set up

It might just be in my head, but I kind of agree that stfs hold their speed a little better. But how bad is the ground you skate? It really shouldn't be that much of a difference if nobody else has ever bought it up. If you skate really shitty ground then it might help more to get a wider wheel.

Kinda bad, gets rough here and there half the time street skating spot to spot

They do retain speed, is not in your head cause I don’t drive much and everything is close to me even work is 20-30 min skating so I just skate while on my way to work and when I was getting wheel madness and swapping f4(different shapes and duro) and then even trying ricta nrg and oj insaneathane they did not even compare to how easy the ride was with my stf’s on

I regretted buying so many f4’s after realizing yeah the stf’s did have a moment of plastic feel compared to spits urethane feel but when you get use to it after 20 min of skating you feel how soft and nice stf’s actually are and how fast and long they roll for a street wheel

I tried wide wheels too and it didn’t do almost anything, f4 53mm conical full 101 and regular 54mm radial 99
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on December 28, 2017, 11:22:07 PM
^ if you couldnít get any of those wheels to ďfeelĒ fast, Iím pretty sure you just need to push harder. I just ordered some Powerflex 52mm Gumballs On tactics with the extra 10% off sale shit. Will keep you guys posted on how they are.

But how much energy should you waste with slow wheels to get a trick Especially up banks or over stuff, like for me itís how much speed is loss on rough ground that ticks me and how much the wheels jitter as I set up

It might just be in my head, but I kind of agree that stfs hold their speed a little better. But how bad is the ground you skate? It really shouldn't be that much of a difference if nobody else has ever bought it up. If you skate really shitty ground then it might help more to get a wider wheel.

Kinda bad, gets rough here and there half the time street skating spot to spot

They do retain speed, is not in your head cause I donít drive much and everything is close to me even work is 20-30 min skating so I just skate while on my way to work and when I was getting wheel madness and swapping f4(different shapes and duro) and then even trying ricta nrg and oj insaneathane they did not even compare to how easy the ride was with my stfís on

I regretted buying so many f4ís after realizing yeah the stfís did have a moment of plastic feel compared to spits urethane feel but when you get use to it after 20 min of skating you feel how soft and nice stfís actually are and how fast and long they roll for a street wheel

What stf shape do you skate? If the ground is really that bad then I feel like conical fulls should be okay, I don't think any stf gets that wide.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on December 29, 2017, 01:03:39 AM
^ if you couldnít get any of those wheels to ďfeelĒ fast, Iím pretty sure you just need to push harder. I just ordered some Powerflex 52mm Gumballs On tactics with the extra 10% off sale shit. Will keep you guys posted on how they are.

But how much energy should you waste with slow wheels to get a trick Especially up banks or over stuff, like for me itís how much speed is loss on rough ground that ticks me and how much the wheels jitter as I set up

It might just be in my head, but I kind of agree that stfs hold their speed a little better. But how bad is the ground you skate? It really shouldn't be that much of a difference if nobody else has ever bought it up. If you skate really shitty ground then it might help more to get a wider wheel.

Kinda bad, gets rough here and there half the time street skating spot to spot

They do retain speed, is not in your head cause I donít drive much and everything is close to me even work is 20-30 min skating so I just skate while on my way to work and when I was getting wheel madness and swapping f4(different shapes and duro) and then even trying ricta nrg and oj insaneathane they did not even compare to how easy the ride was with my stfís on

I regretted buying so many f4ís after realizing yeah the stfís did have a moment of plastic feel compared to spits urethane feel but when you get use to it after 20 min of skating you feel how soft and nice stfís actually are and how fast and long they roll for a street wheel

What stf shape do you skate? If the ground is really that bad then I feel like conical fulls should be okay, I don't think any stf gets that wide.

Tried them and they were still ass, especially for slides feeling sticky and when it slid it would slip

I mainly go for the middle ground v1 for size and weight. I had the widest v4 shape but they were kinda heavy

But yeah I usually go for the v1 might try v2 again for helping to lock in grinds

Tried v5 and same as f4 conicals, sticky
But the bones were faster
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: franquietits on December 29, 2017, 02:42:04 AM
^

(https://media.tenor.com/images/e3421e282465378a82920a55d5923f54/tenor.gif)

Yo, don't blame the wheels if you can't heelflip an 8 5!

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/xk.gif)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Nallid on December 29, 2017, 10:39:10 AM
Jeezus.... Rob what do you do with all the gear you buy and hate?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on December 29, 2017, 02:41:41 PM
Jeezus.... Rob what do you do with all the gear you buy and hate?

Haha wait for lifetime or a&e channel to call me and let me get an episode on hoarders skater edition episode

But I plan to sell some here or eBay or where ever of it when I totally clear the madness from my mind cause I love the idea of Indy and itís hype being all sk8 or die and thrash but they suck, 149 are alright but I canít do chunky and heavy since I sized back down to 8/8.12
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Smartass on December 30, 2017, 05:46:30 PM
Damn this thread has me thinking about trying out some Crupies.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on December 30, 2017, 07:43:39 PM
Damn this thread has me thinking about trying out some Crupies.

unless a super skinny wheel is your thing, make sure you buy the tiago model or whatever model is slightly wider. the team ones are insanely slim. also maybe its the slimness, but im not that hyped on mine, but they arent bad by any means.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Smartass on December 31, 2017, 04:45:36 PM
Damn this thread has me thinking about trying out some Crupies.

unless a super skinny wheel is your thing, make sure you buy the tiago model or whatever model is slightly wider. the team ones are insanely slim. also maybe its the slimness, but im not that hyped on mine, but they arent bad by any means.

I ended up picking up some Ribeiro 52mm ones that are a little bit wider than their other offerings for $12.

(http://i63.tinypic.com/i2nlzo.jpg)
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: DaSk8D00D on December 31, 2017, 04:52:38 PM
My first Crupies were those same Riberio wheels in 54mm, they're wider than the team ones. Great choice!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Nallid on December 31, 2017, 05:14:01 PM
I ended up liking my Crupies. 53 Sarmiento, skinny, but same riding surface as my classics. They've been the first wheels I've had in a while where I just don't think about them.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on December 31, 2017, 05:29:00 PM
I have those same ribeiro ones, but 53mm.
No flatspots, grippy enough, slide enough, fast. No complains whatsoever...
Really good wheels for a really good price (they were 30 euros when a spit or bones can be 50+), plus supporting that heavy brazilian squad.
I back them.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: heritage on December 31, 2017, 08:18:51 PM
+1 on Crupie wheels. I've been skating the 52mm Cerezini and they're perfect. Love the shape and the 101 is a perfect mix of slide and grip. Little more slide than grip but still a great mix.

http://www.crupie.com/product/danny-cerezini-signature-wheels-aoki-geometric-copy/
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on December 31, 2017, 09:35:51 PM
For all of you with crupies, do any of you have trouble sliding on relatively smooth(not skatepark smooth) concrete sidewalks? Mine slide well on ledges as well as roads and most street spots, but for some reason, on some surfaces similar to this, http://www.jcmillerconcrete.com/wp-content/gallery/stamped/stamped7.jpg they barely slide and when they do its an uncomfortable, soft feeling as opposed to the usual feeling when I slide on it with f4s, stfs, or even my 85a cruiser wheels. That's my biggest and only gripe with the formula. Unfortunately not having as good an experience as everyone else is on these wheels, due to this and the width. Maybe they need more time.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on January 03, 2018, 10:16:36 AM
Has anyone tried crupie and wayward?

And which one did you prefer?

Wayward looks better quality and Iím thinking to try a set but all your guys crupie opinions are getting to me and theyíre cheaper
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on January 03, 2018, 10:24:27 AM
Has anyone tried crupie and wayward?

And which one did you prefer?

Wayward looks better quality and Iím thinking to try a set but all your guys crupie opinions are getting to me and theyíre cheaper

I bought a set of waywards, haven't skated them yet so don't know how they are in comparison. Also it might not be a fair test as the waywards are 101a 55mm round cut full(very wide) whereas the crupies are 53mm 101a slim.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: colt cannon lunchbox on January 03, 2018, 01:59:04 PM
Anyone tried portland wheel co?

My OJ's are getting small and kinda sticky on powerslides
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Beeker on January 03, 2018, 04:12:27 PM
Has anyone tried crupie and wayward?

And which one did you prefer?

Wayward looks better quality and Iím thinking to try a set but all your guys crupie opinions are getting to me and theyíre cheaper

Kinda wondering about Crupies since after Tactics sells the couple of sets it has left you'll have to go direct, which ends up making them about the same price as everything else.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on January 12, 2018, 06:51:55 PM
What up skate psychos like myself

So I have been trying other wheels lately and got a set of wayward both 101 and 99 and Iím skating the 101 right now

But before that I was trying some wheels from aws, theyíre called clone wheels and so far... theyíre very legit!

Obviously being a bones stf backer I got the b-cell clone wheels by aws and they are nice, not as impervious as bones stf in all areas but very very close in my opinion

They feel sorta like if an stf mixed with a classic, the grip is good canít guarantee easy slip out but better than f4. Slide wise they slide very nicely and easy but not slippery, sorta like an stf where itís a  controlled slide but easier to get into right away. Theyíre thin like an stf v3 so eh to me cause i prefer a bit wider like a v1. But overall my consensus I suggest to try a set cause theyíre actually good wheels, not bad at all and sad to say...

I think the aws wheels feel better than these wayward 101 Iím on right now, the wayward 101 in all honesty just feel like a very premium way better spit classic, it feels like a classic but rolls faster, and takes rough ground better and slide wise just a bit better

Idk maybe I havenít ďbroken them inĒ but so far prettt average wheels, like I said theyíre basically if you liked wheels like spit classics but hate flatspots and slowness. Wayward 
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on January 12, 2018, 07:34:23 PM
^Interesting input. I quite like my Wayward 101s so far, nothing about them makes me go holy shit but theyre an all round solid wheel, but then again no wheel really does. The clones sound interesting to try, but it makes no sense to me why they rate some wheels with the B scale and other with the A scale, are they different formulae or just different hardness? Seems stupid to use two different scales.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on January 12, 2018, 07:37:21 PM
^Interesting input. I quite like my Wayward 101s so far, nothing about them makes me go holy shit but theyre an all round solid wheel, but then again no wheel really does. The clones sound interesting to try, but it makes no sense to me why they rate some wheels with the B scale and other with the A scale, are they different formulae or just different hardness? Seems stupid to use two different scales.

Supposedly formula, cause in the end the hardness rating is almost like Abec rating and itís really just about the formula and quality of urethane/materials

Like these clones are just like an stf at 83b but you know, different formulas and all and same with f4 compared to other wheels

So yeah the scale is just for different formulas I guess
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: tzhangdox on January 12, 2018, 08:20:07 PM
^Interesting input. I quite like my Wayward 101s so far, nothing about them makes me go holy shit but theyre an all round solid wheel, but then again no wheel really does. The clones sound interesting to try, but it makes no sense to me why they rate some wheels with the B scale and other with the A scale, are they different formulae or just different hardness? Seems stupid to use two different scales.

Supposedly formula, cause in the end the hardness rating is almost like Abec rating and itís really just about the formula and quality of urethane/materials

Like these clones are just like an stf at 83b but you know, different formulas and all and same with f4 compared to other wheels

So yeah the scale is just for different formulas I guess

I see, it would make sense for them to elaborate on the differences between their different products though. Oh well. Definitely interested to try them in the future though.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on January 12, 2018, 08:23:42 PM
^Interesting input. I quite like my Wayward 101s so far, nothing about them makes me go holy shit but theyre an all round solid wheel, but then again no wheel really does. The clones sound interesting to try, but it makes no sense to me why they rate some wheels with the B scale and other with the A scale, are they different formulae or just different hardness? Seems stupid to use two different scales.

Supposedly formula, cause in the end the hardness rating is almost like Abec rating and itís really just about the formula and quality of urethane/materials

Like these clones are just like an stf at 83b but you know, different formulas and all and same with f4 compared to other wheels

So yeah the scale is just for different formulas I guess

I see, it would make sense for them to elaborate on the differences between their different products though. Oh well. Definitely interested to try them in the future though.

I highly recommend if your looking for a good wheel besides my all timer bones stf, they kinda remind me of the first time trying f4 and feeling a revolutionary skate wheel formula, like you canít describe all the feelings but itís good all around

They feel good
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: AlfredIsShit on January 17, 2018, 11:26:44 AM
Hey guys, I'm looking at getting some new wheels since they're on sale.

My two options are Ricta Sparx 101a 52mm and OJ wheels from concentrate 101a 52mm.
The OJs have a 16.6mm contact patch, while the Rictas a 18.5mm contact patch.
Which one should I get? I only skate street (no skatepark in my town), some spots are slippery (underground concrete parking lots) while others are a bit rougher (asphalt/stone tiles).

Any feedback is nice
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Firebert on January 17, 2018, 11:41:37 AM
Hey guys, I'm looking at getting some new wheels since they're on sale.

My two options are Ricta Sparx 101a 52mm and OJ wheels from concentrate 101a 52mm.
The OJs have a 16.6mm contact patch, while the Rictas a 18.5mm contact patch.
Which one should I get? I only skate street (no skatepark in my town), some spots are slippery (underground concrete parking lots) while others are a bit rougher (asphalt/stone tiles).

Any feedback is nice
Spitfire formula four 99
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on January 17, 2018, 01:08:27 PM
Hey guys, I'm looking at getting some new wheels since they're on sale.

My two options are Ricta Sparx 101a 52mm and OJ wheels from concentrate 101a 52mm.
The OJs have a 16.6mm contact patch, while the Rictas a 18.5mm contact patch.
Which one should I get? I only skate street (no skatepark in my town), some spots are slippery (underground concrete parking lots) while others are a bit rougher (asphalt/stone tiles).

Any feedback is nice

Between those two options, the OJs.

Good sale here on wheels: https://shop.ccs.com/skateboards/skateboard-wheels?order=pricelow (https://shop.ccs.com/skateboards/skateboard-wheels?order=pricelow)

I'd snag some waywards if I were you, closet you will get to F4s (if you are skating some slippery stuff).
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on January 17, 2018, 04:47:26 PM
Hey guys, I'm looking at getting some new wheels since they're on sale.

My two options are Ricta Sparx 101a 52mm and OJ wheels from concentrate 101a 52mm.
The OJs have a 16.6mm contact patch, while the Rictas a 18.5mm contact patch.
Which one should I get? I only skate street (no skatepark in my town), some spots are slippery (underground concrete parking lots) while others are a bit rougher (asphalt/stone tiles).

Any feedback is nice
Spitfire formula four 99
↑ he's got a point
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: JusticeAbberdash on January 19, 2018, 12:17:23 PM
Anything but ricta!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on January 19, 2018, 02:39:56 PM
Anything but ricta!

I agree

Update on the wayward 99a tre najera

Theyíre smooth as fresh shaved ball sack

They slide like a spitfire classic so you need some power or speed

But best part, they are pretty fast combined with smooth theyíre great, just wish they slid easier

The 101 were not that great though, maybe I just have an old formula
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: JusticeAbberdash on January 19, 2018, 05:25:27 PM
Anything but ricta!

I agree

Update on the wayward 99a tre najera

Theyíre smooth as fresh shaved ball sack

They slide like a spitfire classic so you need some power or speed

But best part, they are pretty fast combined with smooth theyíre great, just wish they slid easier

The 101 were not that great though, maybe I just have an old formula

So bones stf still beats wayward eh? I keep getting tempted to try crupies, and others, but bones and spits just have formulas on lock.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: rob on January 19, 2018, 05:38:28 PM
Anything but ricta!

I agree

Update on the wayward 99a tre najera

Theyíre smooth as fresh shaved ball sack

They slide like a spitfire classic so you need some power or speed

But best part, they are pretty fast combined with smooth theyíre great, just wish they slid easier

The 101 were not that great though, maybe I just have an old formula

So bones stf still beats wayward eh? I keep getting tempted to try crupies, and others, but bones and spits just have formulas on lock.

Still, id say bones stf, then alien workshop clones 83b(they feel like you take a spit classic and mix with an stf) then formula fours, then wayward/mini logo/bones 100, and maybe oj insane a thane but they were slow as snails so probably spit classics

Thatís my experience so far

And yeah never ricta, the most Chinese manufacturing quality wheels ever, hard plastic and jittery
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: JusticeAbberdash on January 19, 2018, 06:03:31 PM
Anything but ricta!

I agree

Update on the wayward 99a tre najera

Theyíre smooth as fresh shaved ball sack

They slide like a spitfire classic so you need some power or speed

But best part, they are pretty fast combined with smooth theyíre great, just wish they slid easier

The 101 were not that great though, maybe I just have an old formula

So bones stf still beats wayward eh? I keep getting tempted to try crupies, and others, but bones and spits just have formulas on lock.

Still, id say bones stf, then alien workshop clones 83b(they feel like you take a spit classic and mix with an stf) then formula fours, then wayward/mini logo/bones 100, and maybe oj insane a thane but they were slow as snails so probably spit classics

Thatís my experience so far

And yeah never ricta, the most Chinese manufacturing quality wheels ever, hard plastic and jittery

I actually like how different stf and F4s are, I ride both these days. I'm not even sure a wheel could combine the best of both, it's two totally different feels.

If you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Lame_Nigga on January 22, 2018, 08:37:54 AM
I need some quick advice: the city I live has some brutally rough streets so I'm looking for softer wheels. Is there really that much of a difference between 99a and 101? Those seem like the most common measurements. I was gonna drop down to 90a, Also, I was gonna switch from the standard wheel to wider ones, does that effect your tricks or is it all mental?
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Smartass on January 22, 2018, 08:53:39 AM
So bones stf still beats wayward eh? I keep getting tempted to try crupies, and others, but bones and spits just have formulas on lock.

Currently rocking Crupies on my main set up and 99 F4's on my back-up. I'm liking the Crupies more than the F4's right now. They feel gripper and seem to retain speed better than the F4's, but also still slide a little better. I'm going to give my back up a lot of use this week and see if I still feel the same.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Roisto on January 22, 2018, 08:55:26 AM
I need some quick advice: the city I live has some brutally rough streets so I'm looking for softer wheels. Is there really that much of a difference between 99a and 101? Those seem like the most common measurements. I was gonna drop down to 90a, Also, I was gonna switch from the standard wheel to wider ones, does that effect your tricks or is it all mental?

No. On rough streets both are really fucking rough. If you want a smoother ride, get 92A or softer. Softer wheels will be grippy though. 92A you can still slide, but for examples Keyframes, which are 87A are really difficult to slide. Otherwise they're perfect for rough streets though.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Beeker on January 22, 2018, 09:09:58 AM
I need some quick advice: the city I live has some brutally rough streets so I'm looking for softer wheels. Is there really that much of a difference between 99a and 101? Those seem like the most common measurements. I was gonna drop down to 90a, Also, I was gonna switch from the standard wheel to wider ones, does that effect your tricks or is it all mental?

Depends what tricks you are talking about. I personally wouldn't want to do crooked grinds on anything much less than 99a. I don't think there's a magic bullet wheel for cruising crusty streets and skating spots so I would suggest just getting straight up cruiser wheels like bones rough riders and switching them out with something 99+ when you want to do tricks where your wheels rub.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: JusticeAbberdash on January 22, 2018, 09:57:52 AM
I need some quick advice: the city I live has some brutally rough streets so I'm looking for softer wheels. Is there really that much of a difference between 99a and 101? Those seem like the most common measurements. I was gonna drop down to 90a, Also, I was gonna switch from the standard wheel to wider ones, does that effect your tricks or is it all mental?

Depends what tricks you are talking about. I personally wouldn't want to do crooked grinds on anything much less than 99a. I don't think there's a magic bullet wheel for cruising crusty streets and skating spots so I would suggest just getting straight up cruiser wheels like bones rough riders and switching them out with something 99+ when you want to do tricks where your wheels rub.

This. The in-between duros (90-92a) suck, softies or street wheels, gotta make a choice. I skate a lot of janky spots, you get used to it.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Firebert on January 24, 2018, 02:29:24 PM
I like the Powell G-slides - they power slide a little bit, but still handle gravel on my street smoothly. I use em for my tricky cruiser/curb crusher. For just speed, I still use my Danny Falla red/Stella PFCs
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: agmccomb on January 31, 2018, 05:55:54 AM
Anyone know of a wheel slimmer or as slim as the Bones V3? The 50mm ones I skate are 28mm in width. I have had Autobahn slims which were 27mm width. I find the Bones lose their shape and generally wear down too fast for my liking but im currently out of options since it seems like Autobahn must be done.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: TwisT on January 31, 2018, 05:59:06 AM
Anything but ricta!


when was the last time you had ricta?
ricta naturals > F4's any day.

just to elaborate. I have 99a 54 F4 slims. I blame my self for buying a wheel online, but they are not really slim, while they may have a narrower riding surface. the overall wheel was wider than my autobahns and rictas. They felt a little mushy to me, and did not slide as well as my rictas. The wheel is slower. My F4's running 6ball swiss, feel slower than my ricta's w/ mini logo bearings. So on christmas I got westgate naturals. They dont have that plastic feel that the cored ricta's are known for.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: BMCsteve on January 31, 2018, 06:49:30 AM
Anyone know of a wheel slimmer or as slim as the Bones V3? The 50mm ones I skate are 28mm in width. I have had Autobahn slims which were 27mm width. I find the Bones lose their shape and generally wear down too fast for my liking but im currently out of options since it seems like Autobahn must be done.

Ricta NRG Nyjah's are 52mm and 27.7 wide.  The NRG formula is awesome too

https://www.nhsfunfactory.com/nyjah-huston-52mm-pro-design-99a-ricta-skateboard-wheels
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: agmccomb on January 31, 2018, 07:23:49 AM
Anyone know of a wheel slimmer or as slim as the Bones V3? The 50mm ones I skate are 28mm in width. I have had Autobahn slims which were 27mm width. I find the Bones lose their shape and generally wear down too fast for my liking but im currently out of options since it seems like Autobahn must be done.

Ricta NRG Nyjah's are 52mm and 27.7 wide.  The NRG formula is awesome too

https://www.nhsfunfactory.com/nyjah-huston-52mm-pro-design-99a-ricta-skateboard-wheels

Iíll check out the rictas. Thanks!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Firebert on January 31, 2018, 07:42:49 AM
I was a ricta naturals guy for my first 10 years - they are not faster than f4s of any durometer/size.

edit: I'll fuckin race you!
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on February 02, 2018, 10:53:09 AM
I was a ricta naturals guy for my first 10 years - they are not faster than f4s of any durometer/size.

edit: I'll fuckin race you!

When was the last time you rode set? Everyone uses different [marketing] formulas these days...the Ricta NRG, at 99a feel faster than F4s to me; I've ridden spits since they launched the OG classic but the F4s feel soft and sluggish to me compared to OJ insanes and Ricta NRGs.
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: FrenchFriedClownFingers on February 02, 2018, 12:12:06 PM
Are there any wheels out there that are like the bones rough riders but not bouncy? i like to do tricks on my cruiser but the bones wheels i have are bouncy and it makes my tricks feel weird
Title: Re: Wheels Thread
Post by: Xen on February 02, 2018, 04:58:40 PM