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Title: Footprint insoles
Post by: The Woodsman on February 17, 2015, 10:13:14 AM
I've been thinking about trying a pair, are they actually worth it? I get heel bruises pretty frequently so I was thinking about getting the jaws ones, it says they are high profile and provide the most cushion.
Also if youve ever had them what's the deal with the sizing? I wear a 10.5 in most shoes but I'm afraid if I get the 10/10.5 they'll be too short, any insight?
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on February 17, 2015, 11:34:58 AM
i love them. i really like the arch support, which is something that most stock insoles lack. then again, that takes some time to get used to.

i wear 10.5 as well and went for the 11/11.5 since they mold to the shape of the shoe pretty well.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Bubblegum Tate on February 17, 2015, 11:42:41 AM
The Jaws' ones are the kingfoam? I myself like the Gamechangers.

They provide a good shape and protection especially in the in the toe area.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: The Woodsman on February 17, 2015, 12:11:47 PM
The Jaws' ones are the kingfoam? I myself like the Gamechangers.

They provide a good shape and protection especially in the in the toe area.

The game changers are the ones you heat and mold to you foot right? How is the arch on those? I don't like big arches they hurt my feet, that's part of why I was looking at the jaws, they said the jaws were flat.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: The Woodsman on February 17, 2015, 12:39:47 PM
i love them. i really like the arch support, which is something that most stock insoles lack. then again, that takes some time to get used to.

i wear 10.5 as well and went for the 11/11.5 since they mold to the shape of the shoe pretty well.

Is the arch area on yours still lined up with where yours in on your foot? Cause I'm just worried if I get them to big the arch won't be right, cause I can always trim them if they are to long.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: IanBZHD on February 17, 2015, 01:32:46 PM
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The Jaws' ones are the kingfoam? I myself like the Gamechangers.

They provide a good shape and protection especially in the in the toe area.
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The game changers are the ones you heat and mold to you foot right? How is the arch on those? I don't like big arches they hurt my feet, that's part of why I was looking at the jaws, they said the jaws were flat.
I haven't tried them, but have done some research since I was interested.
In the case of the gamechangers, YOU mold them to YOUR foot by heating them up and walking around in them. So the arch should be an exact replica of the arch of your foot, which is the best method to use for a supportive insole. The KingFoam insoles are basically a flat insole which forms to your foot as you skate in it. In my opinion, the gamechangers would be better since it is a custom fit that offers the arch support height of your foot specifically. The KingFoam will be good, but is used as a replacement of your stock insole in your shoes if it's too hard (Busenitz ADV for me) and is more of a 'general' insole.

Hope this helps, I've been putting off trying these because I don't wanna spend 40 bucks on insoles and hate them, but the concepts should be correct.


EDIT: In any case, it will probably feel very weird using any insole that is supporting your arch at first. This is because most brands use a flat PU or EVA insole. Arch support will initially feel like a lump under your foot, but doesn't allow your arch to flatten when taking impact so the stresses are evenly displaced. This is the case for GameChangers mostly, and it will help align your bones/joints while taking these impacts as to not stress them in unusual ways causing pain.
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Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Bubblegum Tate on February 17, 2015, 01:41:37 PM
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The Jaws' ones are the kingfoam? I myself like the Gamechangers.

They provide a good shape and protection especially in the in the toe area.
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The game changers are the ones you heat and mold to you foot right? How is the arch on those? I don't like big arches they hurt my feet, that's part of why I was looking at the jaws, they said the jaws were flat.

Yeah, the arch area is pretty high, while the mid and front area is flat. They also come with 4 cushion pods to prevent heel bruise, but I never used them.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Multigrain on February 17, 2015, 05:45:30 PM
I've only ever tried the King Foam ones. I used them for a while but I rolled my ankle super bad and stopped using them. I can't say for certain if they were the cause because if your front foot manages to get in front of your board the wrong way there's nothing you can do about it, fancy insoles or not. On their site they claim that all the insoles help prevent ankle rolls.

What I didn't like about King Foams is that they did sit really high in the shoe and they were kind of bowed in what I felt was the wrong way. I found they were kind of the opposite of the way a board is concaved. Ever skate a super old board that's gone completely flat and it feels like it's almost turned upside down? They felt like that to me. Personally I'd rather have an insole that my foot fits sort of down into, like if the sides went up around the sides of my feet a little. It'd make me feel more stable. Maybe custom-forming the orthotics would do that. That said I do understand that they kind of have to make the insoles thick in order for them to actually function.

They're not supposed to pack in at all and they're supposed to maintain their shape which they did for the most part. After a few pairs of shoes they started to rip apart.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: pencil on February 17, 2015, 10:15:53 PM
Ive said this before and I will say it again
GO TO A RUNNING STORE AND HAVE THEM FIT YOU FOR INSOLES

they will be pricey, but they will last you 100x longer than these fucking gimmicks do
they will help your posture and you WILL NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE
these are insoles made to endure people pounding their feet on the ground for thousands and thousands of miles
i put 3000 miles on mine running cross country in highschool and they still work
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on February 18, 2015, 02:10:29 PM
I got the Gamechangers last year, and I didn't think they'd make as much of a difference as they do. They feel great and they really help with impact and general alignment. It didn't really hit me how much I liked them until I went to the park wearing a pair of hand me down Janoski's my friend lent me and it just straight up hurt to do tricks in them. The price tag isn't pretty, but they're definitely worth it.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Garth Marenghi on February 19, 2015, 05:28:06 AM
Gamechangers seem to work for me better than the custom made orthopaedic insoles I had before.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: saltusnaut on February 19, 2015, 10:52:55 AM
Definitely not a gimmick. They not only help on impact they also lessen the shatter when skating rough spots. Well worth the money if you can afford them imo.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: layzieyez on February 19, 2015, 03:18:48 PM
I have flat feet and plantar fasciitis, and I use the gamechangers.  I no longer have sore feet after skating even though I find myself tapping my shoes around to make sure that the insole feels lined up (not because they shift around in the shoe, but I've developed this idiosyncracy/ritual).  I also feel more stable all around and honestly my knees and back would probably have kept me from skateboarding if I didn't start using these things when they first came out.  I wish I had these things when I first started or at least when I used to jump down gaps and stairs when I was 15-20.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: The Woodsman on February 19, 2015, 04:02:11 PM
Well I ordered the game changers and a pair of the kingfoams, one for skating and one for work (I load trucks in 12 hour shifts so my feet hurt when I'm done) thanks a lot for all the input guys.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Sold Out on February 24, 2015, 02:49:55 PM
I had the Gamechangers and they were great, adding an arch into my shoes stopped me from getting sore legs, back and knees being at work standing up all day. Took a while to get used to skating a shoe with arch support though.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: ChuckRamone on April 28, 2016, 11:29:51 AM
What's the difference between Gamechangers lites, PUs and custom orthotics other than the customs costing $20 more?
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: micky682 on April 28, 2016, 02:32:28 PM
They may help you skate longer, but that doesn't mean you'll skate better. You lose a considerable amount of board feel depending on if you use Vulc or Cup. Vulc shoes are better with stock insoles.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: ducky darnsworth on April 28, 2016, 02:47:06 PM
has anyone here tried the regular kingfoam insoles and the kingfoam elite insoles?? is there that much of a difference between them?
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: unerds on April 28, 2016, 03:11:46 PM
They may help you skate longer, but that doesn't mean you'll skate better. You lose a considerable amount of board feel depending on if you use Vulc or Cup. Vulc shoes are better with stock insoles.

vulcs with solid insoles are kinda like the poor man's cup sole... stiffens them up a bit and helps with impact.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on April 28, 2016, 03:17:12 PM
I got gamechangers and kingfoams. The gc's almost have too much arch support. I'm running them in BA's as well, maybe need to try them in a less supportive shoe. The kingfoams are pretty worthless. They also need better instructions. I can't find any info about he pads, do you take them off or what.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 28, 2016, 03:22:02 PM
I got gamechangers and kingfoams. The gc's almost have too much arch support. I'm running them in BA's as well, maybe need to try them in a less supportive shoe. The kingfoams are pretty worthless. They also need better instructions. I can't find any info about he pads, do you take them off or what.

BA's already have a great arch support so maybe thats why they add even more to it.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: fulfillthedream on April 28, 2016, 05:35:00 PM
I got gamechangers and kingfoams. The gc's almost have too much arch support. I'm running them in BA's as well, maybe need to try them in a less supportive shoe. The kingfoams are pretty worthless. They also need better instructions. I can't find any info about he pads, do you take them off or what.

I got the BAs without them and am skating Lakai Griffins with the Kingfoams. I dont think you need em on the BA's cause as SKATAN said they have amazing arch support.

In my experience the Kingfoams work really well in most cupnsoles that have a flat stock insole. I've skated the Kingfoams in a lot of emerica's and es's .

I tried to fit em in Dunks once and it was a horrible idea - i noticed they dont work well in most Nike's cupsoles.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: ChuckRamone on April 28, 2016, 05:46:10 PM
They may help you skate longer, but that doesn't mean you'll skate better. You lose a considerable amount of board feel depending on if you use Vulc or Cup. Vulc shoes are better with stock insoles.

Most people would probably rather not have to deal with them. Currently I have no choice 'cause my feet hurt.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: layzieyez on April 28, 2016, 07:03:53 PM
I've been skating the jaws kingfoam elites recently since I'm wearing some vulc fallens. I like to wear them around for about an hour before I actually go skating to warm up and activate the foam since it's kind of stiff at first. They are so thick they feel like they conform to the shape of my feet when they do get warm. I haven't noticed a loss in board feel. These insoles seem to actually get better the more I skate in them instead of breaking down.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: johnes on April 28, 2016, 08:21:01 PM
I've had my game changers for about a monthor 2 now, I can feel the difference. I have normal size arches, if you want to know what kind you have, go to wal mart or look up the nearest dr schools kiosk where you stand on a thing to be fitted for their insoles, it take a couple minutes and at the end it tells you what kind of arch you have.

When ever i put on a pair of shoes now without the game changers in them, i can tel that the arch support isnt there. It feels nice and solid under my foot. Didnt fit in all my shoes though, a couple were way to tight but they fit great in Huf Dylans, Lakai Guy mars and cons weapons. I had less luck in the huf liberty and sutter.

I always switch the insoles to my game changers now when ever i change shoes. I guess they do help, once you feel the arch support, and then un feel, there's gotta be something good happening i would think. As far as the impact protection, It's good, my feet feel fine after skating, but i dont jump off anything over 2 feet.

I want a couple more of them honestly.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Stoeipoes on April 29, 2016, 05:54:16 AM
I'm three times as good with the footprint insoles.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on April 29, 2016, 01:45:12 PM
I've had the GameChanger, Orthotics, and King Foam. Along with the old Medic Insoles from Remind and Dr.Scholls active series. I also have pretty low arches.
Kingfoam feel nice, no arch support whatsoever. Orthotics feel okay but after a while they hurt my arches after a while. Gamechangers feel alright but the arch felt to hard for me and my arches eventually got cramps. The Remind insoles probably flattened out and are better for walking around. Dr. Scholls are okay, kinda similar to the older Ultra Cush HD insoles but with a hard plastic middle, is did hurt after a while and could definitely use more cushion in the heel.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Lonechicken on May 03, 2016, 07:35:03 AM
I've had the GameChanger, Orthotics, and King Foam. Along with the old Medic Insoles from Remind and Dr.Scholls active series. I also have pretty low arches.
Kingfoam feel nice, no arch support whatsoever. Orthotics feel okay but after a while they hurt my arches after a while. Gamechangers feel alright but the arch felt to hard for me and my arches eventually got cramps. The Remind insoles probably flattened out and are better for walking around. Dr. Scholls are okay, kinda similar to the older Ultra Cush HD insoles but with a hard plastic middle, is did hurt after a while and could definitely use more cushion in the heel.

Kingfoams do feel nice. I always have to do the DIY arch insert underneath, and it's perfect. Squishes down so that the arch is supported but not too hard to hurt.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: MyUserName on May 03, 2016, 08:37:55 AM
I tried the Kingfoam Orthotics and couldn't stand how obtrusive the arch-support was.

I then tried the GameChangers and for the first time in my life I had back pain and leg pain from simply skating around (no jumping whatsoever). Like, blinding, unfathomable pain.

I finally tried the Kingfoam Flat insoles and ditched them simply due to uncomfortability. I cut them to fit my shoe perfectly, rounded the edges with sandpaper to fit better, and I STILL couldn't shake how unnatural they felt.

So, three Footrpint's products, something like $110 spent total, and I gave up on ALL of them.

It sucks, I need impact protection more than anything (I get sore heels from skating flat sometimes). I skate Busenitz Vulcs exclusively and the stock insoles in there are laughable, but I guess I'm fucked.

If anyone at Footprint is reading this: help me out.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: johnes on May 03, 2016, 11:13:46 AM
I tried the Kingfoam Orthotics and couldn't stand how obtrusive the arch-support was.

I then tried the GameChangers and for the first time in my life I had back pain and leg pain from simply skating around (no jumping whatsoever). Like, blinding, unfathomable pain.

I finally tried the Kingfoam Flat insoles and ditched them simply due to uncomfortability. I cut them to fit my shoe perfectly, rounded the edges with sandpaper to fit better, and I STILL couldn't shake how unnatural they felt.

So, three Footrpint's products, something like $110 spent total, and I gave up on ALL of them.

It sucks, I need impact protection more than anything (I get sore heels from skating flat sometimes). I skate Busenitz Vulcs exclusively and the stock insoles in there are laughable, but I guess I'm fucked.

If anyone at Footprint is reading this: help me out.
Do you know what kind of arch you have?

Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Tracer on May 03, 2016, 12:14:40 PM
Insoles are for jerkoffs, guys basically get fleeced out of 50$ for a piece of foam

Colden removes the insoles and still jumps huge shit. Don't be a victim
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on May 03, 2016, 12:50:18 PM
Trevor Colden believes vaccines cause autism.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: unerds on May 03, 2016, 01:25:31 PM
trevor colden treats objects like women, man!

seriously tho - anti vax?  skaters sure as fucking hell aren't doctors.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on May 03, 2016, 01:43:32 PM
I've come to realize that my knee problem will be solved by losing some of this gut and strengthening it with exercise, not with $50 snake oil insoles.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Lonechicken on May 04, 2016, 06:43:16 AM
Wait, who the fuck is spending $50 on insoles unless it's custom? Is that Canadian dollars?

The best insoles for skating are between $15 - $30.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: unerds on May 04, 2016, 09:45:55 AM
Wait, who the fuck is spending $50 on insoles unless it's custom? Is that Canadian dollars?

The best insoles for skating are between $15 - $30.

gamechangers are $44.99 for off the rack, pro model type shit that shapes to your foot.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Lonechicken on May 04, 2016, 10:27:59 AM
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Wait, who the fuck is spending $50 on insoles unless it's custom? Is that Canadian dollars?

The best insoles for skating are between $15 - $30.
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gamechangers are $44.99 for off the rack, pro model type shit that shapes to your foot.

I must have gotten mine during a sale, because I would have balked at that price. I still prefer Kingfoams though. Gamechangers are good in the beginning, but the hard part where the arch is gets uncomfortable down the road.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on May 04, 2016, 12:45:44 PM
Are the Kingfoams softer? My Gamechangers are getting kinda hard.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on May 04, 2016, 05:04:06 PM
Are the Kingfoams softer? My Gamechangers are getting kinda hard.
They are but are completely flat and offer no arch support
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: fulfillthedream on May 04, 2016, 07:04:31 PM
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Are the Kingfoams softer? My Gamechangers are getting kinda hard.
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They are but are completely flat and offer no arch support

funny you say that cause i've found my kingfoams to be perfect for my feet. i guess we're each gonna have a different experience due to no two feet being the same.

also about the price..ive never paid more than $30 for the kingfoams.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Lonechicken on May 05, 2016, 07:42:33 AM
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Are the Kingfoams softer? My Gamechangers are getting kinda hard.
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They are but are completely flat and offer no arch support
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funny you say that cause i've found my kingfoams to be perfect for my feet. i guess we're each gonna have a different experience due to no two feet being the same.

also about the price..ive never paid more than $30 for the kingfoams.

You're right about that. Even on the same person. My left foot always seems to need a couple more millimeters of width on a shoe than the right, while my right foot needs more room on top of the mid-foot area.  :(
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Such on May 09, 2016, 07:41:00 PM
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Are the Kingfoams softer? My Gamechangers are getting kinda hard.
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They are but are completely flat and offer no arch support
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funny you say that cause i've found my kingfoams to be perfect for my feet. i guess we're each gonna have a different experience due to no two feet being the same.

also about the price..ive never paid more than $30 for the kingfoams.
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You're right about that. Even on the same person. My left foot always seems to need a couple more millimeters of width on a shoe than the right, while my right foot needs more room on top of the mid-foot area.  :(

lol me to, left foot longer right foot wider. thank god my left foot is the longest though, im regular.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Cherb on May 10, 2016, 01:29:32 AM
I have the TK kingfoam insoles. I don't jump down shit really anymore since I have a jacked up back and I don't put them in every shoe. Only ones with super thin shitty insoles. But I feel like they really helped my plantar fasciitis out and they definitely help when landing primo. If you have a lot of foot pain I think they might be worth it. I mainly just use them in my work shoes now since it seems like most shoes I've been buying lately have had decent insoles.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: ChuckRamone on May 28, 2016, 07:46:53 AM
using gamechangers right now and they give good support and padding but boardfeel is definitely lacking. I don't like the sensation of my feet being distant from the board. reminds me of the puffy sneaker days.

are there any insoles that are a happy medium?
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: shit_for_brains on May 28, 2016, 08:09:24 AM
using gamechangers right now and they give good support and padding but boardfeel is definitely lacking. I don't like the sensation of my feet being distant from the board. reminds me of the puffy sneaker days.

are there any insoles that are a happy medium?

Bummer. I have some of those coming in the mail today. I was using some lunarlons I pulled out of a pair of Chuck Taylors but I've had them so long that I can smell them through my shoes. The gamechangers were supposed to replace them, but if they suck like that I don't know.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: 144p on May 28, 2016, 08:32:11 AM
From personal experience, if you have fallen arches something soft like the stock lunarlon insoles offer almost no support and have almost no shock/impact protection for your joints. They do feel soft on your feet so I understand the comfort aspect.
The material of the game changers is harder, and after a few days it helps your knee and hip issues for sure.
Kinda like eating vegetables, no one really likes to do it but the benefits are very beneficial.
I am using these orthotics now.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/A1VkcC1TSxL._SY450_.jpg)
As for the price, the material they use doesn't come cheap.
The shock absorption properties coupled with the ability to remold/form to your foot is hard to match at that price point.
The gel insoles and other options do feel great on the foot, but don't do much for the rest of your body.
I've tried every insole fp and remind make. These ones work best for my situation, if your arches are normally flat, the flat kingfoams work great.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: shit_for_brains on May 28, 2016, 10:06:49 AM
From personal experience, if you have fallen arches something soft like the stock lunarlon insoles offer almost no support and have almost no shock/impact protection for your joints. They do feel soft on your feet so I understand the comfort aspect.
The material of the game changers is harder, and after a few days it helps your knee and hip issues for sure.
Kinda like eating vegetables, no one really likes to do it but the benefits are very beneficial.
I am using these orthotics now.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/A1VkcC1TSxL._SY450_.jpg)
As for the price, the material they use doesn't come cheap.
The shock absorption properties coupled with the ability to remold/form to your foot is hard to match at that price point.
The gel insoles and other options do feel great on the foot, but don't do much for the rest of your body.
I've tried every insole fp and remind make. These ones work best for my situation, if your arches are normally flat, the flat kingfoams work great.

That makes me feel better. I definitely have knee and flexor pain. I thought I had ordered game changers but they're actually the custom orthotics like you have.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: johnes on May 28, 2016, 10:09:10 AM
My GCs don't mess with my board feel at all, I've used them to skate in 5-6 different shoes. But since mine are perfect for me, you will probably hate them SfBs.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: 144p on May 28, 2016, 10:36:13 AM
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From personal experience, if you have fallen arches something soft like the stock lunarlon insoles offer almost no support and have almost no shock/impact protection for your joints. They do feel soft on your feet so I understand the comfort aspect.
The material of the game changers is harder, and after a few days it helps your knee and hip issues for sure.
Kinda like eating vegetables, no one really likes to do it but the benefits are very beneficial.
I am using these orthotics now.
As for the price, the material they use doesn't come cheap.
The shock absorption properties coupled with the ability to remold/form to your foot is hard to match at that price point.
The gel insoles and other options do feel great on the foot, but don't do much for the rest of your body.
I've tried every insole fp and remind make. These ones work best for my situation, if your arches are normally flat, the flat kingfoams work great.
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That makes me feel better. I definitely have knee and flexor pain. I thought I had ordered game changers but they're actually the custom orthotics like you have.
Once I added using a foam roller daily to break up my muscles on my legs my knee issues disappeared.
Pretty sure 20+ years of skating and injuries with minimal to no stretching or rehab didn't help either, but being consistent with my stretching and exercise has done a lot.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: shit_for_brains on May 28, 2016, 10:46:59 AM
My GCs don't mess with my board feel at all, I've used them to skate in 5-6 different shoes. But since mine are perfect for me, you will probably hate them SfBs.

I don't follow.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on May 28, 2016, 12:05:28 PM
If anyone's on the fence and wears a 10/10.5 you can have my Jack Curtin's that I molded and wore for a day. Just paypal me like $15 and they're yours. Just cook them and mold them to your feet.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Roisto on May 28, 2016, 12:55:15 PM
I used to have terrible foot pain when snowboarding, so I bought a pair of Gamechangers to see if they'd help and I guess they didn't really help all that much.

Then a month or so ago I decided to put them in my Dekline Tim Tims as the stock insole on those is a fucking joke. I used the Tim Tims only for walking around, at work and whatever. Skated a lot less than normally during that time too. Got terrible pain on my left knee out of nowhere. Couldn't even skate properly due to that. Now, I can't say that the Gamechangers caused the pain, but as soon as I took them out and put my old Habitat Getz insoles there, my knee started feeling better. Now it's almost as good as new and doesn't really affect my skating one bit anymore.

I dunno how my arches are, but I guess they're not flat at least. I could always feel the arch support on the Gamechangers and it didn't feel exactly pleasant TBH. So, from my experiences I'd say that the Gamechangers might not be some magical solution for every foot and might possibly even cause some harm with some type of a foot. Dunno. I think the flat Footprint insoles would probably work much better for me.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: ChuckRamone on May 28, 2016, 03:24:01 PM
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From personal experience, if you have fallen arches something soft like the stock lunarlon insoles offer almost no support and have almost no shock/impact protection for your joints. They do feel soft on your feet so I understand the comfort aspect.
The material of the game changers is harder, and after a few days it helps your knee and hip issues for sure.
Kinda like eating vegetables, no one really likes to do it but the benefits are very beneficial.
I am using these orthotics now.
As for the price, the material they use doesn't come cheap.
The shock absorption properties coupled with the ability to remold/form to your foot is hard to match at that price point.
The gel insoles and other options do feel great on the foot, but don't do much for the rest of your body.
I've tried every insole fp and remind make. These ones work best for my situation, if your arches are normally flat, the flat kingfoams work great.
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That makes me feel better. I definitely have knee and flexor pain. I thought I had ordered game changers but they're actually the custom orthotics like you have.
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Once I added using a foam roller daily to break up my muscles on my legs my knee issues disappeared.
Pretty sure 20+ years of skating and injuries with minimal to no stretching or rehab didn't help either, but being consistent with my stretching and exercise has done a lot.


this is spot on.

I started getting tendinitis after skating with an ankle sprain. so I stopped for a while and focused on rehab. I also learned about massage during that time and that has helped a lot. I use my hands instead of a foam roller. I find the muscle knots in my legs and work those out. it's painful if you have long-term build up but you can immediately feel relief. do this every other day with some stretching afterwards for about a week and your legs will feel a lot better.

as for the gamechangers, I'm going to keep using them because I can feel the improvement in my alignment. I'll have to get used to the boardfeel.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: SodaJerk on May 29, 2016, 03:38:29 AM
From personal experience, if you have fallen arches something soft like the stock lunarlon insoles offer almost no support and have almost no shock/impact protection for your joints. They do feel soft on your feet so I understand the comfort aspect.
The material of the game changers is harder, and after a few days it helps your knee and hip issues for sure.
Kinda like eating vegetables, no one really likes to do it but the benefits are very beneficial.
I am using these orthotics now.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/A1VkcC1TSxL._SY450_.jpg)
As for the price, the material they use doesn't come cheap.
The shock absorption properties coupled with the ability to remold/form to your foot is hard to match at that price point.
The gel insoles and other options do feel great on the foot, but don't do much for the rest of your body.
I've tried every insole fp and remind make. These ones work best for my situation, if your arches are normally flat, the flat kingfoams work great.
I gonna go ahead and order some of these now.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Glue Reed on May 29, 2016, 03:34:51 PM
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From personal experience, if you have fallen arches something soft like the stock lunarlon insoles offer almost no support and have almost no shock/impact protection for your joints. They do feel soft on your feet so I understand the comfort aspect.
The material of the game changers is harder, and after a few days it helps your knee and hip issues for sure.
Kinda like eating vegetables, no one really likes to do it but the benefits are very beneficial.
I am using these orthotics now.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/A1VkcC1TSxL._SY450_.jpg)
As for the price, the material they use doesn't come cheap.
The shock absorption properties coupled with the ability to remold/form to your foot is hard to match at that price point.
The gel insoles and other options do feel great on the foot, but don't do much for the rest of your body.
I've tried every insole fp and remind make. These ones work best for my situation, if your arches are normally flat, the flat kingfoams work great.
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I gonna go ahead and order some of these now.

has anybody used these in a pair of Vans?

I'm not a huge fan of the Vans pro insoles.. they're a little too soft/mushy (why I never dug lunarlon).  However, I like the thick heel protection. 

Are 'gamechangers' for more flat-feeted people like myself? 
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: SodaJerk on May 29, 2016, 03:58:38 PM
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From personal experience, if you have fallen arches something soft like the stock lunarlon insoles offer almost no support and have almost no shock/impact protection for your joints. They do feel soft on your feet so I understand the comfort aspect.
The material of the game changers is harder, and after a few days it helps your knee and hip issues for sure.
Kinda like eating vegetables, no one really likes to do it but the benefits are very beneficial.
I am using these orthotics now.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/A1VkcC1TSxL._SY450_.jpg)
As for the price, the material they use doesn't come cheap.
The shock absorption properties coupled with the ability to remold/form to your foot is hard to match at that price point.
The gel insoles and other options do feel great on the foot, but don't do much for the rest of your body.
I've tried every insole fp and remind make. These ones work best for my situation, if your arches are normally flat, the flat kingfoams work great.
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I gonna go ahead and order some of these now.
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has anybody used these in a pair of Vans?

I'm not a huge fan of the Vans pro insoles.. they're a little too soft/mushy (why I never dug lunarlon).  However, I like the thick heel protection. 

Are 'gamechangers' for more flat-feeted people like myself? 
According to their website yes. I've got terrible flat feet so I'll let you know how they feel once I get them.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Such on June 01, 2016, 03:33:11 PM
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From personal experience, if you have fallen arches something soft like the stock lunarlon insoles offer almost no support and have almost no shock/impact protection for your joints. They do feel soft on your feet so I understand the comfort aspect.
The material of the game changers is harder, and after a few days it helps your knee and hip issues for sure.
Kinda like eating vegetables, no one really likes to do it but the benefits are very beneficial.
I am using these orthotics now.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/A1VkcC1TSxL._SY450_.jpg)
As for the price, the material they use doesn't come cheap.
The shock absorption properties coupled with the ability to remold/form to your foot is hard to match at that price point.
The gel insoles and other options do feel great on the foot, but don't do much for the rest of your body.
I've tried every insole fp and remind make. These ones work best for my situation, if your arches are normally flat, the flat kingfoams work great.
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I gonna go ahead and order some of these now.
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has anybody used these in a pair of Vans?

I'm not a huge fan of the Vans pro insoles.. they're a little too soft/mushy (why I never dug lunarlon).  However, I like the thick heel protection. 

works just fine. they have atleast twice as much heel protection as the ultracush when theyre new. makes basic vulc shoes feel like supportive cupsole shoes.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: SodaJerk on June 02, 2016, 11:31:37 AM
I ordered the Gamechangers and they sent me the King Foams. Called them to tell them they made an error and the guy was adamant the were Gamechangers in King Foam packaging and I was adamant they were not. He puts me on hold and another guy gets on the phone and I tell him what's going on so he puts me on hold and when he comes back he said that I was right and he'll send me another pair today. I'll wait for them to arrive before I consider sending the others back.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: shit_for_brains on June 02, 2016, 11:37:52 AM
The orthotics took some getting used to, and they aren't as comfortable as lunarlons but I can definitely feel the difference in my knees and ankles. Worth it.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: h00man on June 03, 2016, 11:35:11 AM
Took advantage of the sale they had last weekend and ordered 3 new kingfoam orthotics. Been using these for the past 3 years and they honestly work the best. Can't skate a shoe without them. Wasn't a fan of the Gamechangers, and definitely did not like the flat Kingfoams.

If you're on the fence, just get the kingfoam orthotics. Best shit ever 
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: ChuckRamone on June 03, 2016, 11:41:16 AM
Took advantage of the sale they had last weekend and ordered 3 new kingfoam orthotics. Been using these for the past 3 years and they honestly work the best. Can't skate a shoe without them. Wasn't a fan of the Gamechangers, and definitely did not like the flat Kingfoams.

If you're on the fence, just get the kingfoam orthotics. Best shit ever 

what's the difference between the GCs and the kingfoam orthotics?
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Firebert on June 03, 2016, 12:24:42 PM
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Took advantage of the sale they had last weekend and ordered 3 new kingfoam orthotics. Been using these for the past 3 years and they honestly work the best. Can't skate a shoe without them. Wasn't a fan of the Gamechangers, and definitely did not like the flat Kingfoams.

If you're on the fence, just get the kingfoam orthotics. Best shit ever 
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what's the difference between the GCs and the kingfoam orthotics?

GCs you heat in the oven to mold to your arch and feel a little more rigid after they cool off, while the KOs rely on your body heat to mold to your foot and feel a little softer.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: h00man on June 03, 2016, 02:53:19 PM
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Took advantage of the sale they had last weekend and ordered 3 new kingfoam orthotics. Been using these for the past 3 years and they honestly work the best. Can't skate a shoe without them. Wasn't a fan of the Gamechangers, and definitely did not like the flat Kingfoams.

If you're on the fence, just get the kingfoam orthotics. Best shit ever 
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what's the difference between the GCs and the kingfoam orthotics?
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GCs you heat in the oven to mold to your arch and feel a little more rigid after they cool off, while the KOs rely on your body heat to mold to your foot and feel a little softer.

And they're cheaper
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: 144p on June 03, 2016, 04:39:56 PM
The game changers don't have the kingfoam to absorb all the shock.
They do work wonders for aligning your body, but I noticed I was considerably more sore after skating using the game changers vs the kingfoam orthotics .

Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: ChuckRamone on June 03, 2016, 06:31:08 PM
how about boardfeel? which is better? the GCs feel weird to me still but I have to admit my joints feel better.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: johnes on June 03, 2016, 08:47:58 PM
I want to try the KF orthodontics but i'm kinda worried i'm too used the GC's already.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Such on June 04, 2016, 02:48:57 PM
im coming back from a sprained ankle (i dont know if thats the right word but i fucking rolled it like a bitch) when i start skating again im planing on getting some dunk hi´s i think. they seem like the most supportive shoe out. i need something that i cant roll my ankle in until my foot heals properly. would game changers be the best to go along? or would footprints be a bad idea since it puts you higher of the ground? my foot is also misaligned, i dont know how its going to turn out but will footprints help with this? i was skating the ones that have arch support but form to your foot just by body heat, but ive never noticed them helping against rolling your ankle.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: tzhangdox on June 04, 2016, 10:56:28 PM
i need something that i cant roll my ankle in until my foot heals properly

Let your foot heal properly first. Do exercises to strengthen your ankle, and if you need something to really prevent your ankle from rolling, wear ankle braces. Hi top shoes don't cut it in many cases.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Monkey_Mcpott on June 04, 2016, 11:27:58 PM
Just tried my game changers for the first time today and they worked wonders for me. I feel no pain on my left foot that i was constantly feeling with regular insoles due to my flat feet specially more on my left one. Will def continue to buy.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Such on June 05, 2016, 07:14:22 AM
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i need something that i cant roll my ankle in until my foot heals properly
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Let your foot heal properly first. Do exercises to strengthen your ankle, and if you need something to really prevent your ankle from rolling, wear ankle braces. Hi top shoes don't cut it in many cases.
but surely a hi top that is tied tight has more support than a lowtop? i know your ankles get stronger when you wear lowtops but its just untill it heals. hi top with a brace was my plan.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Such on June 05, 2016, 07:19:52 AM
now im torn

http://hemanklerehab.com/ankle-braces-increase-sprains/ (http://hemanklerehab.com/ankle-braces-increase-sprains/)
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: johnes on June 05, 2016, 09:16:58 AM
The rounded edges of cupsole make it easier to roll your ankle compared to a flat vulc.  Maybe try a high or mid vulc with the footprint insoles.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Such on June 05, 2016, 09:39:48 AM
The rounded edges of cupsole make it easier to roll your ankle compared to a flat vulc.  Maybe try a high or mid vulc with the footprint insoles.

WHAT? i thought it was the other way around? that the rounded edges made for a more controlled roll, where as the 90 degree edge made for a sudden yank. i mean cups are always more supportive than vulcs. never once rolled anything in a cupsole.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: johnes on June 05, 2016, 12:36:30 PM
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The rounded edges of cupsole make it easier to roll your ankle compared to a flat vulc.  Maybe try a high or mid vulc with the footprint insoles.
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WHAT? i thought it was the other way around? that the rounded edges made for a more controlled roll, where as the 90 degree edge made for a sudden yank. i mean cups are always more supportive than vulcs. never once rolled anything in a cupsole.
Weird, I've only hurt my ankle in Cupsoles.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Such on June 05, 2016, 04:18:54 PM
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The rounded edges of cupsole make it easier to roll your ankle compared to a flat vulc.  Maybe try a high or mid vulc with the footprint insoles.
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WHAT? i thought it was the other way around? that the rounded edges made for a more controlled roll, where as the 90 degree edge made for a sudden yank. i mean cups are always more supportive than vulcs. never once rolled anything in a cupsole.
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Weird, I've only hurt my ankle in Cupsoles.

i never thought about it either until i watched this video 1:25 http://skateboarding.transworld.net/videos/2015-footwear-guide-lakai/ (http://skateboarding.transworld.net/videos/2015-footwear-guide-lakai/)
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Lonechicken on June 06, 2016, 09:06:16 AM
now im torn

http://hemanklerehab.com/ankle-braces-increase-sprains/ (http://hemanklerehab.com/ankle-braces-increase-sprains/)

Yeah, I've been telling people this for a couple of years. Mid-tops and high-top shoes too.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: one80 on June 08, 2016, 01:42:05 PM
just got some game changers in the mail today and baked/molded them before I got to work. the support is instantly noticeable and I basically just came on here to spread the good word. if you're thinking about grabbing some, do it. worth every penny.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Glue Reed on June 10, 2016, 11:40:31 AM
damn so now I'm torn (or confused)... should I grab the kingfoam orthotics or the gamechangers?

I have flat feet, very low arch's (the wife affectionately calls them fred flinstone feet).  i'm an old bastard so no hopping down stairs/gaps at this point, just park and transition and curbs, the usual old man stuff.  I still like some good heel cushioning.



Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: shit_for_brains on June 10, 2016, 12:19:27 PM
damn so now I'm torn (or confused)... should I grab the kingfoam orthotics or the gamechangers?

I have flat feet, very low arch's (the wife affectionately calls them fred flinstone feet).  i'm an old bastard so no hopping down stairs/gaps at this point, just park and transition and curbs, the usual old man stuff.  I still like some good heel cushioning.





Gamechangers aren't super cushy, but they're comfortable and good for your feet. Kingfoams I believe are more like cushions.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Monkey_Mcpott on June 10, 2016, 01:55:04 PM
So for the first time I'm switching my game changers to a new shoe, and it almost feels different maybe because the shoe is still new and stiff (Figgys). Also I'm guessing its because the Figgys have the sock liner that makes the shoe extra tight because the game changers are thicker than the stock insoles. Had to stretch out to shoe for it to stop hurting.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: ungzilla on June 10, 2016, 06:59:00 PM
they talk about all this stuff on their site. if you have high arches and tend to roll ankles outwards, they suggest you NOT get the ones with arch support.

"HIGH ARCH

You need an impact absorbing insole without arch support to combat Supination.

Supination

The exact opposite of Over Pronation. Your arch is too high which causes your ankle to roll outwards upon impact.

You tend to roll and sprain your ankle
Get heel bruises
More likely to break your ankle.
Because your ankle leans outwards, orthotics/arch support will generally be ineffective. Most impact is sent to your heels and forefoot so you need as much impact protection as possible. This is why we have specially made our kingfoam insoles series for you."

also RE: braces, i used to constantly roll my ankles and i was constantly wearing braces and hightops. I'm on low or mids now and no braces. Eventually got around the psychic crutch of needing to be in my braces to skate, and i rarely fuck my ankle up anymore, and when it does happen, it's way less severe. but maybe just due to being way less fat than I used to be.

Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Such on June 11, 2016, 08:03:50 AM
they talk about all this stuff on their site. if you have high arches and tend to roll ankles outwards, they suggest you NOT get the ones with arch support.

"HIGH ARCH

You need an impact absorbing insole without arch support to combat Supination.

Supination

The exact opposite of Over Pronation. Your arch is too high which causes your ankle to roll outwards upon impact.

You tend to roll and sprain your ankle
Get heel bruises
More likely to break your ankle.
Because your ankle leans outwards, orthotics/arch support will generally be ineffective. Most impact is sent to your heels and forefoot so you need as much impact protection as possible. This is why we have specially made our kingfoam insoles series for you."

also RE: braces, i used to constantly roll my ankles and i was constantly wearing braces and hightops. I'm on low or mids now and no braces. Eventually got around the psychic crutch of needing to be in my braces to skate, and i rarely fuck my ankle up anymore, and when it does happen, it's way less severe. but maybe just due to being way less fat than I used to be.



ill never understand how you can roll your ankle outwards
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: micky682 on June 11, 2016, 09:52:54 AM
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ill never understand how you can roll your ankle outwards
I do it almost everyday, not full ankle sprains but if my foot steps weird or I plant it on real fast it just rolls outward. I usually catch it in time.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Such on June 11, 2016, 04:22:22 PM
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ill never understand how you can roll your ankle outwards
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I do it almost everyday, not full ankle sprains but if my foot steps weird or I plant it on real fast it just rolls outward. I usually catch it in time.

ugh never mind i read that as rolling your FOOT outwards. that happens but its really hard.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on June 11, 2016, 11:57:09 PM
they talk about all this stuff on their site. if you have high arches and tend to roll ankles outwards, they suggest you NOT get the ones with arch support.

"HIGH ARCH

You need an impact absorbing insole without arch support to combat Supination.

Supination

The exact opposite of Over Pronation. Your arch is too high which causes your ankle to roll outwards upon impact.

You tend to roll and sprain your ankle
Get heel bruises
More likely to break your ankle.
Because your ankle leans outwards, orthotics/arch support will generally be ineffective. Most impact is sent to your heels and forefoot so you need as much impact protection as possible. This is why we have specially made our kingfoam insoles series for you."

also RE: braces, i used to constantly roll my ankles and i was constantly wearing braces and hightops. I'm on low or mids now and no braces. Eventually got around the psychic crutch of needing to be in my braces to skate, and i rarely fuck my ankle up anymore, and when it does happen, it's way less severe. but maybe just due to being way less fat than I used to be.



Yeah I have high arches and I fucking hated the game changers. Stuck with $45 insoles I wore twice.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: carbonite on July 12, 2016, 06:19:55 AM
anyone know what these lil' adhesive pads that come with the gamechangers are for (sorry bout img size):
(http://i67.tinypic.com/309ipae.jpg)
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Doughboy on July 12, 2016, 06:30:10 AM
^^^ They are heel pads. You can peel the paper thing off and stick them to the bottom of your insole for a little more cushion in the heel area. They don't really do too much because they are only like 2mm thick, but I usually use them on my FP insoles.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: shit_for_brains on July 12, 2016, 06:48:38 AM
Those things make it feel like you have something in your shoe. They're a pain in the ass.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: N.L. on July 12, 2016, 08:43:24 AM
I use the heel pad things. feel good especially in worn out shoes.

in all honesty though i prefer the remind medics. they really cradle the foot nicely and feel more supportive than the footprints.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Mongoloid on July 12, 2016, 08:56:06 AM
I gotta say.. They aren't really all that thick, but I absolutely love PF Flyer stock insoles. Probably the most comfortable I've felt since returning to skating.

As far as FP's I'm rocking some rightnow in a secondary pair of shoes. I cannot seem to get along with them at all.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: ChuckRamone on July 12, 2016, 09:00:12 AM
now that I'm used to the Gamechangers, I'm liking them quite a bit. my legs and feet feel less sore. there is a bit of a sacrifice in the boardfeel department but I think it's worth it to preserve your body for a while longer.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Firebert on July 12, 2016, 09:04:30 AM
With these insoles, its all about finding the right shoe to accommodate them. If you try and stuff insoles that are 20mm thick in a shoe that was built for an insole 5mm thick, your foot will be dangerously high off the ground, be more prone to ankle rolls, and the shoe might not fit anymore.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: ChuckRamone on July 12, 2016, 09:07:45 AM
With these insoles, its all about finding the right shoe to accommodate them. If you try and stuff insoles that are 20mm thick in a shoe that was built for an insole 5mm thick, your foot will be dangerously high off the ground, be more prone to ankle rolls, and the shoe might not fit anymore.

what shoe brands/models do you think they are good for? I've been using them in Emerica vulcs.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Firebert on July 12, 2016, 10:02:44 AM
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With these insoles, its all about finding the right shoe to accommodate them. If you try and stuff insoles that are 20mm thick in a shoe that was built for an insole 5mm thick, your foot will be dangerously high off the ground, be more prone to ankle rolls, and the shoe might not fit anymore.
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what shoe brands/models do you think they are good for? I've been using them in Emerica vulcs.

If you use the thinner footprint kingfoams 5-10mm, those will fit pretty much any shoe fine, and I use those in my low tops, like the reynolds vulc or the figgys. However, some shoes like the project ba have very thin insoles and shouldn't be replaced imo.

I think the lunarlon insoles that come in the Koston 1/2 and the Cons CTS most closely mirror the size of my footprint gamechangers and orthotics. I recently got the Hsu g6 though, and the bigger insoles seem to fit just fine in those (probably because they're mids), but when I tried them in my Reynolds mid, it made my foot sit way too high.

When I use aftermarket insoles, I measure the height of the insole I am replacing to make sure they're similar, then after fitting them in the shoe, try to roll my ankles to see how easy it is (it shouldn't roll, your foot should feel stable and not shift around inside the shoe).

Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: patrick c. on April 18, 2017, 07:27:42 AM
Sorry for the thread bump but I've searched and couldn't find much relevant information. I'm considering a pair of Gamechangers and want to make sure I get the right type for my shoe.  I'm planning on using them in a pair of Vans Rowley Solos(with the removable Ultacush HD insoles).  Will the Gamechangers fit these?  The heel on the Rowleys is fairly low to begin with and I'm concerned the FP's will be too high for the shoe.  Would the Gamechangers Lite work better? Appreciate any advice/links to other threads if this has been discussed already. 
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: rob on April 18, 2017, 08:36:40 AM
I say like firebert says, measure the insole you wanna swap also for those who don't know which ones to get, I highly suggest if you have an arch stick to the footprint elites but if you have flat feet get the ones with arch support
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Firebert on April 18, 2017, 09:22:42 AM
Sorry for the thread bump but I've searched and couldn't find much relevant information. I'm considering a pair of Gamechangers and want to make sure I get the right type for my shoe.  I'm planning on using them in a pair of Vans Rowley Solos(with the removable Ultacush HD insoles).  Will the Gamechangers fit these?  The heel on the Rowleys is fairly low to begin with and I'm concerned the FP's will be too high for the shoe.  Would the Gamechangers Lite work better? Appreciate any advice/links to other threads if this has been discussed already. 

I regularly replace my ultracush with them and they still fit fine. I believe the gamechangers/kingfoam orthotics will be at most 1-2 mm thicker than the ultracush insoles, but it shouldn't be too noticeable.

Should be noted that FP now makes an even thinner (3mm) gamechanger now that fits virtually any shoe.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: patrick c. on April 18, 2017, 09:29:29 AM
^Appreciate the info Firebert & Rob
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: yourfuckingdad on April 18, 2017, 01:54:56 PM
agree on finding a shoe that works with the insole.

gamechangers are too wide for SB dunks, but the dunks give enough arch support that im okay with the stock insoles.

Gamechangers are great in my Herman G6's
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Firebert on April 18, 2017, 02:53:49 PM
agree on finding a shoe that works with the insole.

gamechangers are too wide for SB dunks, but the dunks give enough arch support that im okay with the stock insoles.

Gamechangers are great in my Herman G6's

How does that make sense? The Dunk insole is thicker than game changers, and you can trim the width, whereas the herman g6 insole is 3mm, so my heel won't even lock in when I put normal gamechangers in those.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: yourfuckingdad on April 20, 2017, 02:21:35 PM
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agree on finding a shoe that works with the insole.

gamechangers are too wide for SB dunks, but the dunks give enough arch support that im okay with the stock insoles.

Gamechangers are great in my Herman G6's
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How does that make sense? The Dunk insole is thicker than game changers, and you can trim the width, whereas the herman g6 insole is 3mm, so my heel won't even lock in when I put normal gamechangers in those.

I didn't want to trim the width as it would mess up the arch support in my other shoes.
Also the  dunks I have are some premium ones with really thick leather on the sides which doesn't like to stretch out.

Mine fit great in my G6's after I trimmed the front.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: patrick c. on July 07, 2017, 02:51:47 PM
Sorry for bumping the thread again but I just wanted to ask if anyone had any issues rolling their ankles in Kingfoam Orthotics? I'm wearing mine for the first time at work today and it feels like the arch is putting my heel in a weird position(if that makes any sense).  Is this just part of the break-in process?  I really love them otherwise(I'm on my feet a lot at my job and don't feel any soreness mid day).
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: tzhangdox on July 08, 2017, 12:26:03 AM
Sorry for bumping the thread again but I just wanted to ask if anyone had any issues rolling their ankles in Kingfoam Orthotics? I'm wearing mine for the first time at work today and it feels like the arch is putting my heel in a weird position(if that makes any sense).  Is this just part of the break-in process?  I really love them otherwise(I'm on my feet a lot at my job and don't feel any soreness mid day).

This can definitely be the case. Most skate shoes have no arch support, but since the orthotics do, and are designed to align your feet/legs properly, sometimes they can put your feet in a position where your ankle is more rolled outward by a bit, and because its probably thicker than the stock insole, lifts your foot higher off the ground, and this obviously leaves you a little more susceptible to ankle rolls.

 It should be okay as long as the insoles don't lift your feet up too high from your shoes and as long as your shoes arent too floppy without any structure. I skate in braces too so I've never had an instance of the insoles actually causing me to roll my ankle but I know exactly what you mean. Once you skate a set for a while they will flatten out a bit and the effect will be less significant. If it feels to sketchy just dont skate with them and use them in your non skate shoes, still a great investment.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Willie on July 08, 2017, 07:53:43 PM
You can also minimize roll with a wider sole.

I don't understand switching out really thick insoles like ultracush or Lunarlon for aftermarket insoles because in general you've gotten some more arch support but no net improvement in cushioning.


I haven't had a problem adding fatter insoles to G6s even though my foot sits a bit higher.


You can roll an ankle in any shoe (flat, wide, high, low - I've done it) but I when trying on shoes I'll usually test by tilting my shoe 30 degrees or so and you can feel if the shoe wants to roll more or return to flat.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: patrick c. on July 09, 2017, 04:30:40 PM
I don't understand switching out really thick insoles like ultracush or Lunarlon for aftermarket insoles because in general you've gotten some more arch support but no net improvement in cushioning.
A lot of my skating is just pushing across town and after a few hours my arches get really sore.  I felt the Footprint Orthotics would help with this and I still imagine they will.  I appreciate the feedback Willie and Tzhangdox.  I will probably end up waiting to skate them in a mid or high top.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Firebert on July 14, 2017, 11:51:31 AM
I don't understand switching out really thick insoles like ultracush or Lunarlon for aftermarket insoles because in general you've gotten some more arch support but no net improvement in cushioning.
The theory is that the unique density of the "kingfoam" absorbs more impact due to the egg test, which is I guess sorta scientific.
I haven't had a problem adding fatter insoles to G6s even though my foot sits a bit higher.
I have. I put gamechangers in reynolds (cup) and sprained my ankle, just my experience though.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Paco Supreme on October 23, 2017, 08:45:20 PM
Coming to realise i need better insoles because even brand new lunarlon is starting to make my feet sore. I've been looking at the Footprint Kingfoam Flat insoles, are these ones i can just take out the packaging and run with or is there more steps?
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: tzhangdox on October 23, 2017, 09:03:03 PM
I never really liked those ones because they are completely flat with no arch support whatsoever. I would recommend the fp kingfoam elite(which are more dense and take a while to break in), or the orthotics(not the game changers).
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: redhatchet on October 24, 2017, 05:52:21 PM
Glad someone bumped this. A pair of States and my gamechangers as a result, have what looks like mold on them. Much more prevalent in the shoe. So I think the sole is getting it by being in contact. Can’t remember keeping them stored or anything other than my house. Anyone have advice for getting mold spores off insoles or the under sole of shoes? I mainly just care about not getting my insoles completely gross/fucked. Didn’t wanna make a new thread.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: tzhangdox on October 24, 2017, 06:14:41 PM
Glad someone bumped this. A pair of States and my gamechangers as a result, have what looks like mold on them. Much more prevalent in the shoe. So I think the sole is getting it by being in contact. Can’t remember keeping them stored or anything other than my house. Anyone have advice for getting mold spores off insoles or the under sole of shoes? I mainly just care about not getting my insoles completely gross/fucked. Didn’t wanna make a new thread.

I guess try wipe them off and then leave them out in the sun for a while. Otherwise I'm sure theres some kind of spray for this on amazon or something.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Smartass on February 26, 2018, 09:31:31 AM
Sorry to revive an old thread, but has anyone with game changers notice that they get really stiff in the morning?

Recently picked some up, had them molded and what not, and have been noticing that in the morning that they're pretty stiff and take a good while to warm up and get more comfortable.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Firebert on February 26, 2018, 11:13:34 AM
Sorry to revive an old thread, but has anyone with game changers notice that they get really stiff in the morning?

Recently picked some up, had them molded and what not, and have been noticing that in the morning that they're pretty stiff and take a good while to warm up and get more comfortable.

Gamechangers are supposed to be pretty stiff. If you want a softer insole, go with the orthotics - they mold with your body heat and are for mid to low arches.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Smartass on February 26, 2018, 11:18:05 AM
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Sorry to revive an old thread, but has anyone with game changers notice that they get really stiff in the morning?

Recently picked some up, had them molded and what not, and have been noticing that in the morning that they're pretty stiff and take a good while to warm up and get more comfortable.
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Gamechangers are supposed to be pretty stiff. If you want a softer insole, go with the orthotics - they mold with your body heat and are for mid to low arches.

Thanks Bert, I'll pick up a pair of the orthotics and see which I prefer.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Paco Supreme on February 26, 2018, 02:04:52 PM
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Sorry to revive an old thread, but has anyone with game changers notice that they get really stiff in the morning?

Recently picked some up, had them molded and what not, and have been noticing that in the morning that they're pretty stiff and take a good while to warm up and get more comfortable.
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Gamechangers are supposed to be pretty stiff. If you want a softer insole, go with the orthotics - they mold with your body heat and are for mid to low arches.
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Thanks Bert, I'll pick up a pair of the orthotics and see which I prefer.

I'll add that in the mornings my kingfoam orthotics seem stiffer in the arch, but not in and uncomfortable way
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Smartass on February 26, 2018, 02:23:50 PM
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Sorry to revive an old thread, but has anyone with game changers notice that they get really stiff in the morning?

Recently picked some up, had them molded and what not, and have been noticing that in the morning that they're pretty stiff and take a good while to warm up and get more comfortable.
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Gamechangers are supposed to be pretty stiff. If you want a softer insole, go with the orthotics - they mold with your body heat and are for mid to low arches.
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Thanks Bert, I'll pick up a pair of the orthotics and see which I prefer.
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I'll add that in the mornings my kingfoam orthotics seem stiffer in the arch, but not in and uncomfortable way

For Me it seems like its the pad under the balls of the feet that get stiff in the morning and get better throughout the day in the game changers. I ordered the kingfoam orthotics, and while use the game changers until these get here.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: ChuckRamone on June 20, 2018, 09:05:18 PM
what's going on with footprint? they've been out of lots of sizes for a long time. are they going out of business? are they in the middle of renovations or something? maybe euro tm knows.
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Pigeon on June 20, 2018, 10:31:20 PM
what's going on with footprint? they've been out of lots of sizes for a long time. are they going out of business? are they in the middle of renovations or something? maybe euro tm knows.
How are there shoes not on clearance?
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on June 20, 2018, 10:37:20 PM
How are their shoes actually a thing?
Title: Re: Footprint insoles
Post by: mattdlx on June 21, 2018, 03:53:04 PM
Sorry to revive an old thread, but has anyone with game changers notice that they get really stiff in the morning?


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