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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: tkp on March 18, 2015, 08:58:49 AM
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"The 90s were arguably the purest time period for skateboard videos. The campy, day-glo, skit-filled vert videos of the 80s had given way to raw street skating spliced with irreverent behavior and scored with edgy hip-hop. By the mid 90s consumer video cameras had shrunk to palm-sized and become somewhat affordable, leading to an explosion of amateur footage. Suddenly it seemed as if every kid in every town across America was filming his scene and his crew's antics. The videos reflected just how small and insular skateboarding was at the time."
http://www.vice.com/read/william-strobeck-wants-to-bring-back-the-golden-era-of-skate-videos-103?utm_source=vicetwitterus (http://www.vice.com/read/william-strobeck-wants-to-bring-back-the-golden-era-of-skate-videos-103?utm_source=vicetwitterus)
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i am surprised to hear an older skater prefers the 90s
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i am surprised to hear an older skater prefers the 90s
It's always cool to like what was.
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"The 90s were arguably the purest time period for skateboard videos. The campy, day-glo, skit-filled vert videos of the 80s had given way to raw street skating spliced with irreverent behavior and scored with edgy hip-hop. By the mid 90s consumer video cameras had shrunk to palm-sized and become somewhat affordable, leading to an explosion of amateur footage. Suddenly it seemed as if every kid in every town across America was filming his scene and his crew's antics. The videos reflected just how small and insular skateboarding was at the time."
http://www.vice.com/read/william-strobeck-wants-to-bring-back-the-golden-era-of-skate-videos-103?utm_source=vicetwitterus (http://www.vice.com/read/william-strobeck-wants-to-bring-back-the-golden-era-of-skate-videos-103?utm_source=vicetwitterus)
He's full of shit and everyone is gonna be like the skate turds in KIDS except worse because they can't get actual experience. Fuck denim dude he's just making shit soft and when shitty rap music has its teeth in it now there is nothing less. He can Larry Clark it or Harmony Korine it all he wants, but people have moved on. As they should skateboarding is on the decline, just deal.
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I stopped reading when I saw this...
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Anyone else notice they took that red Devil video down and put a new intro in it?
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I stopped reading when I saw this...
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I have no idea why this person is so fascinated with repeatedly snapping portraits of people in front of a vignetted photo of his own possessions on a shelf.
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This only served to remind me that I so miss the campy, day-glo, skit-filled 80s.
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MAKES DUDE SEEM WAYYY LAME ...
BILL YOURE FUCKING LAME AS FUCK, JUST MAKE A "GOLDEN ERA" CLASSICS VIDEO AND SHUT THE FUCK UP & STOP POSING IN PICTURES
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One is as skinny as a rail and the other as big as a house now; they form the number 10 when they stand next to each other.
I chuckled.......
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Why does he put all his captions on ig in quotes? Always irritated me.
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Don't get the hate. He's letting these kids be themselves and putting out great skate videos, for free more often than not. And "golden era" was exactly that to everyone in that age bracket.
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i dug the interview. i like those kids they actually make me wanna skate and have fun with my friends and damn i miss being that age i wish i filmed more
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rear-view mirror society. always looking back
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While he's concerned with regressing there are a ton of people creating a new 'golden era.'
Dime
Sabotage
GX1000
The crew that put out Beef Patty, Paych, and countless other videos and clips
Bronze
Josh Stewart and co. are always doing cool things
Chris Mulhern is a genius
Polar, Hopps, Magenta always put out memorable, interesting stuff
There have been a handful of sick videos out of Virginia in the past few years..
And that's just on the East Coast.
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Anyone else notice they took that red Devil video down and put a new intro in it?
ya no way that feisty asian babe signed a release forum.
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While he's concerned with regressing there are a ton of people creating a new 'golden era.'
Dime
Sabotage
GX1000
The crew that put out Beef Patty, Paych, and countless other videos and clips
Bronze
Josh Stewart and co. are always doing cool things
Chris Mulhern is a genius
Polar, Hopps, Magenta always put out memorable, interesting stuff
There have been a handful of sick videos out of Virginia in the past few years..
And that's just on the East Coast.
a lot of that shit is 90's inspired too but i agree i dont know why they focus on bill as some prophet for this shit when its trendy as hell and everyone is doing it
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Anyone got a link to the red devil video he just dropped? It was up for a bit, but now its gone from his youtube.
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Anyone got a link to the red devil video he just dropped? It was up for a bit, but now its gone from his youtube.
Its on Supreme
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I really liked how they talked about these no personality skaters that these big name companies try so hard to market and still no one buys their pro models.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsXVsa1Qgpo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsXVsa1Qgpo)
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rear-view mirror society. always looking back
Seriously. Are there any good skate companies that refrain from using nostalgia as a marketing tool/aesthetic?
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rear-view mirror society. always looking back
Seriously. Are there any good skate companies that refrain from using nostalgia as a marketing tool/aesthetic?
Most companies who represent what I view as the good side of skateboarding tap into the mindset or feeling you had when you first started skating, how fun/new/irreverent/whatever it was, so I'd say...No? At least not the companies that make skateboards.
I don't have a vast knowledge of art, design or advertising history, but Isle seems to be on their own path visually speaking.
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This is silly. If he wants videos to be like the 90's, he should focus on what really made those videos good...the skateboarding. Tim and Henry Pack of Lies (probably my favorite 90's video) was good not because it was "raw" and "pure." It was because Henry set the standard for street skating for years after that part. 90's videos were very progressive in regards to tricks and no amount VX filming of dudes pushing down the street is going to recreate that.
Even Eastern Exposure was very new when it came to tricks. That wasn't some video trying to represent an earlier time. Even what was seen in Eastern Exposure didn't dominate most of the 90's in terms of imitation. Don't forget that this decade also produced Hocus Pocus, Video Days, Love Child, 20 Shot, Trilogy, Rodney v. Daewon, Questionable, Virtual Reality, Second Hand Smoke, numerous 411's, Photosynthesis, Welcome To Hell, Jump Off a Building, etc. All of which were well produced videos trying to set new standards instead of imitating old ones.
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i just read it and what i got from it was the interviewer was the person that brought up the 90's..the only thing Strobeck said that had to do with that time was that the length of Cherry was to be like tim and henrys.you guys got it wrong,seems like hes talking about the energy of those times is what he thinks skateboarding is lagging.look at the Stereo sounds video a visual sound,those guys were doing simple stuff but with good style and i think unique.
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his fetishized nostalgia for that era of skateboarding has become so stale, he has trouble innovating so he has to resort to mimicking. get a fucking grip, strobeck. he and jason dill get away with so much.
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And I'm not a fan of how the intro was written. This thing about Cherry being like "Eastern Exposure Era videos"? Outside of maybe the Sub Zero video there were no Eastern Exposure type videos...there was only Eastern Exposure. That video did bring skateboarding back to a good medium (skating faster and getting wheel sizes back up), but I would say that Hocus Pocus or Questionable had a bigger influence on the whole decade. I love the past but damn, let it go sometimes.
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And of course it's easy to look back at the past to see the energy of those times when you're facing your inevitable demise as an adult now. Everything looks so fun and energetic because everybody was young and stupid.
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burn brooklyn to the ground
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i just read it and what i got from it was the interviewer was the person that brought up the 90's..the only thing Strobeck said that had to do with that time was that the length of Cherry was to be like tim and henrys.
He says a little more than that, but for real, read closer and don't make a negative opinion based on the clickbait title.
Regarding nostalgia, it doesn't have to be a dichotomy of biting old shit vs. aggressive progression. Stuff like the Bronze and Strobeck vids are rad because they take influence from the past to do something new. One step back, two steps forward.
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rear-view mirror society. always looking back
Seriously. Are there any good skate companies that refrain from using nostalgia as a marketing tool/aesthetic?
I don't see anything out of the Theories camp as being nostalgic.
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I really wish I would have bought some Polaroid film before they stopped making it. Seeing Bill's photo's makes me really wish I would have. Dude, must have stocked up on it.
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no excuse to cut off heads
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I really wish I would have bought some Polaroid film before they stopped making it. Seeing Bill's photo's makes me really wish I would have. Dude, must have stocked up on it.
I used some from impossible project for a school project not too long ago. The quality was alright.
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rear-view mirror society. always looking back
Seriously. Are there any good skate companies that refrain from using nostalgia as a marketing tool/aesthetic?
Other than the Static alumni montage, right?
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Also I had known about the Thomas thing [A Love Supreme] and I always loved the film and think it still holds that time perfectly. But on the other end I had heard that the skaters involved in it actually wanted a real skate video and not a film with a little skating in it.
I wonder why that wasn't made? Was it a decision by Supreme? That would've been amazing - full parts from the Keefe bros, Bici, and Ryan Hickey, maybe even a Gonz part.
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Can someone please talk about the future....like where I can watch a vid and taste Neen's hair.....
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if golden era means fatbill goes back to filming people and not being in the spot light, then im all for it. keep it to the point, dont try to be some edgy harmony korine type. aswell keep harmony korine out of skating. kids was good, spring breakers was bull shit. vans is disappointing me for putting his name on shoes, but i guess they will do anything with anyone....j crew
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u mad bro.fatbill is in the spotlight for what he's made.also larry clark made kids get your facts straight.
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All you guys are missing the most noteworthy point of this interview- apparently Pops and Wenning have major beef...
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The result was the most authentic and fun video of 2014 and the closest anyone has come to capturing the purity of mid-90s Eastern Exposure-era skate videos.
Stop reading after this point.
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I really dig all Strobeck's old stuff, and I enjoyed watching Cherry and Joyride. But I think all the Supreme stuff is just as contrived as any other current video. Honestly, Meza is my favorite vid maker/editor. He seems to get the balance perfect.
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Anyone else notice they took that red Devil video down and put a new intro in it?
ya no way that feisty asian babe signed a release forum.
yeah i wonder if a lawyer tipped them off on that...i like that old intro better than the new one tho
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I really dig all Strobeck's old stuff, and I enjoyed watching Cherry and� Joyride. But I think all the Supreme stuff is just as contrived as any other current video. Honestly, Meza is my favorite vid maker/editor. He seems to get the balance perfect.
me too, dude had the magic touch with all of those crailtap tour videos. and i think he's back to editing them now, right?
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u mad bro.fatbill is in the spotlight for what he's made.also larry clark made kids get your facts straight.
harmony korine wrote kids.
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i dunno why he doesn't just re-do uncle buck and bring back the golden era of family movies, fat john candy looking cunt
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Destination Unknown was the best video in recent memory, and I didn't have to think about any of this shit while watching it.
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"back in my day, we had to skate in the snow 15 miles uphill both ways every day... AND we did it with personality!"
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"back in my day, we had to skate in the snow 15 miles uphill both ways every day... AND we did it with personality!"
It GAVE us personality!
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I wonder what hes filming with now
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there is no way he didnt take that out of the trash after taking that photo
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"courthouse"
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When you think about it Bill is really like a high school teacher. Hanging out with all these teenagers for a majority of his time. I think he should star in his own re-vamped sitcom; "Welcome back, Strobeck". All the F.A/Supreme kids could be his students. Sean Pablo would be Vinnie Barbarino, Tyshawn Jones as Freddie Boom Boom Washington, Sage Elsesser as Epstein, Aidan Mackey as Horshack, and of course Jason Dill as the Principal. Oh, the antics that would come up during those 24 minutes. For all you youngsters out there a modern day "Welcome back, Kotter". Now that is retro.
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I wonder what hes filming with now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRjaDMsc4uM
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Just because your breasts move and shake doesn't mean you're a mover and shaker
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never thought i'd see so much strobeck hate on slap.
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I'm not trying to hate on Bill, like I said, I really dig his stuff. Especially the older stuff when he would film Pops, young AO, and other NYC dudes. The vids were short and mostly black and white. I loved all those QUIK vids he made, the trips to Brazil and Israel were super rad. The indoor park with Austin cruising hella fast flipping over that couch was all time. Even that one vid with the chick playing guitar in the beginning is so sick. I just think the Supreme stuff is contrived. And I really do believe Meza is the best at what he does.
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I like Bills vids, but I like them cause of the skaters in them not cause of his filming or editing. I preferred Illegal Civ II to Cherry.
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Fatbill has been working with great skaters for many years.I don't see anything he does as contrived.if anything he seems to be trying his own thing and killing it.Plus he has a colorful crew of skaters to work with and they're getting the shine.Your hate is pointless,looks fun to be a part of.
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Speaking of golden era....we using 'contrived' again?
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Ha, beat me to it. I'm still waiting for someone to show me something in skateboard that's not "contrived."
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in 10 yrs kids will be filming features with old iPhones to get that vintage 2015 web Clip look
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Just seems like people are having trouble coming to terms with how old street skateboarding is now. Of course the early 90's were better - the possibilities for new things were endless.
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Ha, beat me to it. I'm still waiting for someone to show me something in skateboard that's not "contrived."
There's nothing contrived about an Andy Roy ass rape. However, in some sense, it can be "forced".
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Fatbill has been working with great skaters for many years.I don't see anything he does as contrived.if anything he seems to be trying his own thing and killing it.Plus he has a colorful crew of skaters to work with and they're getting the shine.Your hate is pointless,looks fun to be a part of.
not sure if gay friendly, or racist
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Ha, beat me to it. I'm still waiting for someone to show me something in skateboard that's not "contrived."
There's nothing contrived about an Andy Roy ass rape. However, in some sense, it can be "forced".
He used mental manipulation, which kind of makes it contrived.
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I wonder what hes filming with now
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Oh no no no
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Flip book.....
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William Strobeck is SoOoOoO contrived and fake 90s UGHHHH :'( :'( :'( :'( Why can't everyone just uncuff their pants ::)
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Was the 'Golden Era' the one when people paid for skate vids?
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there is no way he didnt take that out of the trash after taking that photo
https://instagram.com/p/oCFmhbE8r5/
https://instagram.com/p/oCDL7nE8oK/
Dude's name is Solomon?
Who knows....
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The Golden Era this prick had nothing really to do with? Fuck off back to fingering Supreme kids ass holes
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1997-2005, golden era to me.
does anyone have a problem remembering tricks from HD videos? i'm not trying to sound like an SD fanboy but i will watch an SD video once and remember a ton of tricks, i watch HD and it all gets forgotten. maybe i am just a person
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Was the 'Golden Era' the one when people paid for skate vids?
POTY.
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William Strobeck is SoOoOoO contrived and fake 90s UGHHHH :'( :'( :'( :'( Why can't everyone just uncuff their pants ::)
he can't because he cut them off of his jeans
in 10 yrs kids will be filming features with old iPhones to get that vintage 2015 web Clip look
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there is no way he didnt take that out of the trash after taking that photo
https://instagram.com/p/oCFmhbE8r5/
https://instagram.com/p/oCDL7nE8oK/
Dude's name is Solomon?
Who knows....
strobeck is a piece of shit, everyone knows he didn't throw it away.
NOTICE: that it was placed in the cleanest can he could find
that the camera is completely in tact along with a fisheye (compared to just a vx with no mic and no fisheye)
instead of giving his shit away he destroys it like a gamestop