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Title: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: papamidnight on January 20, 2007, 03:49:00 AM
whats up im from the emerica site and there is some shit getting thrown down there that Jamie thomas is an asshole, and he tries to control his team and what they wear and that type of shit. All around control freak. Some people said to come over and ask you guys whats up? so is he really like that? stories?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Burgalveist on January 20, 2007, 04:02:45 AM
So people on the emerica site have been claiming the baseless speculation from this forum as fact?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: tonycoxhox on January 20, 2007, 04:07:08 AM
He just wants to look like Jesus. Give the guy a break.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: papamidnight on January 20, 2007, 04:12:00 AM
nahh its jsut that there are rumors and shit taht he isnt all he's cracked up to be, like he's just controlling and shit. I mean if youre just gunna be a bitch for me asking a question then well... blow me
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: george castellvi on January 20, 2007, 04:28:13 AM
my friend knew some kid who was flow for them, and he went out skating with the infamous JT. everything was all chill until jamie took him to a gap and said "you are going to ollie this" in a super serious manner
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Sacred Smoke on January 20, 2007, 04:32:07 AM
my friend knew some kid who was flow for them, and he went out skating with the infamous JT. everything was all chill until jamie took him to a gap and said "you are going to ollie this" in a super serious manner

That is so amazing if it is true.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: whatnot on January 20, 2007, 07:10:18 AM
Based on Chris Cole remark, I aint surprised
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: kelchmonster on January 20, 2007, 07:36:29 AM
its all true! and hes a war vet not jesus.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: fuckingvegan on January 20, 2007, 08:21:07 AM
His own team talks about it, and Cole admitted he started dressing like a an 80's hair band reject because Jamie send him a box of a cloths and told him how to dress.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: bbk on January 20, 2007, 09:02:32 AM
Cervantes said that Thomas made him skate even though he didn't want too because he was tired and that jamie said what tricks to do, but he didn't really seem to think it was a bad thing...
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: fuckingvegan on January 20, 2007, 09:07:58 AM
Cervantes said that Thomas made him skate even though he didn't want too because he was tired and that jamie said what tricks to do, but he didn't really seem to think it was a bad thing...

Some people like to be bossed around that is why they play football.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: sfa on January 20, 2007, 09:46:42 AM
well. ive got a lot to say on this subject.

but i'll just revert back to my normal line.


fuck the chief.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: reaganomics on January 20, 2007, 10:50:43 AM
nazi bastard
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Guile on January 20, 2007, 10:57:11 AM
its common knowledge hes a prick. the smart thing to do about it would be stop purchasing anything related to him. fallen, zero, mystery and the other 11 companys that look the same.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: bobjohn on January 20, 2007, 11:05:00 AM
Do former riders apply for unemployment when they get kicked off? That would be assuming that companies pay unemployment insurance.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: wghpChris on January 20, 2007, 11:49:22 AM
HAHA, shit, everyone knows Thomas is a dickhead. Look how many riders have come and gone on Zero over the last ten years.

Dave Carnie also called him out for photoshopping hankerchiefs and other gay bullshit into pictures.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: antihero on January 20, 2007, 11:53:48 AM
The problem is Jamie Thomas runs zero like a business rather than a skateboard team, but when you face facts zero is a business. I'm sure if your boss thought you wern't pulling your weight they'd tell you to do your job better or suggest where your going wrong. How is that different to him telling skaters what tricks to do?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: fuckingvegan on January 20, 2007, 11:55:55 AM
The problem is Jamie Thomas runs zero like a business rather than a skateboard team, but when you face facts zero is a business. I'm sure if your boss thought you wern't pulling your weight they'd tell you to do your job better or suggest where your going wrong. How is that different to him telling skaters what tricks to do?

It is one thing to suggest to someone to try a trick and another to force people to dress different, having magazine photo shop "flair" into photos, forcing people to try tricks until they are to hurt to skate etc....
If I had a boss like that I would call the whistle blower hotline quick.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: j....soy..... on January 20, 2007, 12:10:00 PM
from people who have ridden for him...i hear alot more good than bad that's for sure....
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: lophatrophazoa on January 20, 2007, 12:22:56 PM
i heard that hes such a dick, he took his whole team for chocolate sundays once and only got them the medium size. what an asshole
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: CUDDLEMONSTER on January 20, 2007, 12:39:41 PM
The problem is Jamie Thomas runs zero like a business rather than a skateboard team, but when you face facts zero is a business. I'm sure if your boss thought you wern't pulling your weight they'd tell you to do your job better or suggest where your going wrong. How is that different to him telling skaters what tricks to do?

the problem is that while skateboarding is a business it's also a very differant kind of business because skateboarding does have some artistic qualities that can't be analyzed by a strictly economic analysis. a skateboard company is more like a record label, you can tell the bands/skaters exactly how to sound/skate but if you do they could lose that certain uniqueness that caught your markets eye in the first place. i think the smart business move to do would be to let your skaters be themselves. if you've got the money zero has you can buy the best skaters, have a rad but diverse team, and sell like crazy because now there's something for everybody.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Evil Kraken from the Arctic Sea on January 20, 2007, 12:54:50 PM
The problem is Jamie Thomas runs zero like a business rather than a skateboard team, but when you face facts zero is a business. I'm sure if your boss thought you wern't pulling your weight they'd tell you to do your job better or suggest where your going wrong. How is that different to him telling skaters what tricks to do?
if you've got the money zero has you can buy the best skaters, have a rad but diverse team, and sell like crazy because now there's something for everybody.
Yeah, but nothing for anyone really, cause they woulnd´t have any image...
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: NRG on January 20, 2007, 01:17:16 PM
Jamie Thomas is the darkest of men. It seems like he doesn't want a diverse team, like he wants everything uniform so he can corner the market. You know, the market that appeals little kids who dress in all black trenchcoats that carry guns to school, and dream of skullfucking.  

That's crazy if he makes people skate and tells them what tricks they should do. A good TM or boss should motivate skaters, and maybe suggest tricks they think the skater could be capable of. It sounds like he's taking it too far though, if it's true. Whatever let's all just keep speculating how he really is.

I agree with Guile, he seems shady don't buy his stuff
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: j....soy..... on January 20, 2007, 01:30:34 PM
if he's so controlling...why is adrian lopez still adrian lopez......he didn't make him wear a sombrero or anything....you think now if chris cole wanted to a wear a tutu he couldn't?  they've got rattray and keegan too....its not like antihero has some la schoolyard kid....
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Mullet Man on January 20, 2007, 02:04:26 PM
It's true. It's no different than Antihero trying to corner the flannel shirt/Half-Cabs/Burnside market.

Every company has it's image, even if they try to be subtle about it. It's there.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Newman on January 20, 2007, 02:15:19 PM
HAHA, shit, everyone knows Thomas is a dickhead. Look how many riders have come and gone on Zero over the last ten years.

Dave Carnie also called him out for photoshopping hankerchiefs and other gay bullshit into pictures.

Ha,Ha i remeber that shit. Dave Carnie man...wow, crazy guy right there piffest jokes eva. Anyway Jamie just trys to have his company maintain an image...every company has that exept the way he does it is very noticable.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: j0rdan on January 20, 2007, 02:30:13 PM
Dave Carnie also called him out for photoshopping hankerchiefs and other gay bullshit into pictures.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

if he's so controlling...why is adrian lopez still adrian lopez......he didn't make him wear a sombrero or anything....you think now if chris cole wanted to a wear a tutu he couldn't?  they've got rattray and keegan too....its not like antihero has some la schoolyard kid....
probably because Lopez is OG like Jamie. I doubt jamie would tell someone his own age to dress more "punk"... it's probably easier to tell these naive young kids "look, there's a spot for you on zero, but you gotta dress the part, and bust out huge hammers"
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Duffy on January 20, 2007, 02:31:37 PM
Could be why Lopez went to Zero...


edit: I ment Mystery.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: bentmode on January 20, 2007, 02:32:18 PM
if he's so controlling...why is adrian lopez still adrian lopez......he didn't make him wear a sombrero or anything....you think now if chris cole wanted to a wear a tutu he couldn't?  they've got rattray and keegan too....its not like antihero has some la schoolyard kid....

but take into consideration the amount of coverage that keegan and rattray get.

ive seen way more osiris rattray ads than i have zero ratray ads. the only ad i can recollect from keegan is him standing on a motorcycle.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: SixofSeven on January 20, 2007, 02:47:07 PM
its all true! and hes a war vet not jesus.

and what war did he fight in?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: plastic bench nerd on January 20, 2007, 02:51:48 PM
say what you want about jamie, eveyone has there own opnion.

but here is a fact:

jamie is the only guy in skateboarding industry that has honestly gone out of his way to help me out since i have been sponsorless. he sends me boards when i need them. jamie is just a straight forward guy, wich is better then dealing with someone who beats around the bush instead  of giving you an honest answer.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Maple Syrup on January 20, 2007, 03:14:59 PM
i dont know where people get all this shit.  i havent seen or heard anything reliable about jamie thomas being a dick.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: stagefright on January 20, 2007, 03:24:01 PM
keegan has a fs lip/disaster on a qp to giant qp transfer thing a couple months ago. i remember reading ryan smith saying jaimie thomas drove them to that big rail that he crooked grinds and told him to do it. and im sure the riders can do what they want but they see that his ideas 'work' for what they are trying to acheive, so they stick with them. theres no way jaimie thomas is in charge of chris cole anymore, its the other way around if anything.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: CigaretteBeer on January 20, 2007, 03:42:15 PM
I've met him a few times and he's always super unfriendly.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: jorelskate on January 20, 2007, 04:00:46 PM
yeah, Thomas seems kind of gay, but look what happened to mystery.  As soon as they seperated they all seem lazy as shit regarding footage/photos.  Mystery vid soon? i doubt it
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: rootsnsoul on January 20, 2007, 04:12:48 PM
Um, he is just a person. He is a retarded asshole just like all of you are. Myself included.
I'd understand this being intresting if you guys knew him, but this is just gay city usa.
His Welcome to Hell part rules.


If you HONESTLY have a problem with how this guys does business, don't buy it. If you think this guy is bad though, then you don't know much of what you are talking about. He's runs his business like 80% of the industry does. Like a 30yr old kid asshole.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: MURLIN on January 20, 2007, 04:16:31 PM
Not one of the individuals on this messageboard know Jamie on any level.  It is all a huge game of "telephone", I heard this, so and so said that.  Get a life. 
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: heckler on January 20, 2007, 04:17:05 PM
I think this might be a nice time to bring this post back...


i'm sorry

jamie thomas should have his own documentary on his life story

THE CHIEF: A Life Story (2007)

Genre: Documentary / Extreme / Drama / Holocaust (more)

Tagline: From visors to beards and benihanas to handrails, Jamie Thomas has influenced more kids to wear headbands and do 5-0 grinds than any other skateboarder. Compiling several interviews and bits of footage throughout the past 2 decades, this film will display all of Jamie Thomas' accomplishments.(more)

Plot Outline: A Documentary to accomodate of Jamie 'The Chief' Thomas' accomplishments, and his slow downfall into nazi tendencies. (view trailer)

User Comments: hey this is cool you get to see chief ollie the gonz without shoes(more)

Credited cast:
Jamie Thomas - Himself
Ed Templeton - Himself
Tom Penny - Himself
Tommy Sandoval - Himself
Matt Mumford - Himself
Adrian Lopez - Himself
Donny Barley - Himself
Jamie Thomas' Asian Wife - Herself
Erik Ellington - Himself
Lee Dupont - Himself
Adolf Hitler - Himself

Also Known As:
Chief Pro Skater Go Go Deux! (Japan) (working title)
MPAA: Rated PG-13 for some violent images, language and after black slo-mo.
Runtime: Argentina:100 min (Mar del Plata Film Festival) / Australia:100 min
Country: America
Language: English
Color: Color
Sound Mix: Dolby Digital
Certification: Hong Kong:IIA / Singapore:PG / Sweden:11 / Ireland:12A / USA:PG-13 / UK:12A / Argentina:13 / Australia:M

Quotes:
Chris Cole: I still can't feel my legs after Jamie sent me my first box of product, from that first pair of Zero jeans. I look up to that man.
(more)

Awards: TWS Video of the Year

Bonus Features:
JT Barefoot Skating Sections
Board Gallery
Reason to Believe Part


Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: cliff on January 20, 2007, 04:19:37 PM
Not one of the individuals on this messageboard know Jamie on any level.  It is all a huge game of "telephone", I heard this, so and so said that.  Get a life. 

I know him pretty well.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: mikefork on January 20, 2007, 04:20:38 PM
I think this might be a nice time to bring this post back...


i'm sorry

jamie thomas should have his own documentary on his life story

THE CHIEF: A Life Story (2007)

Genre: Documentary / Extreme / Drama / Holocaust (more)

Tagline: From visors to beards and benihanas to handrails, Jamie Thomas has influenced more kids to wear headbands and do 5-0 grinds than any other skateboarder. Compiling several interviews and bits of footage throughout the past 2 decades, this film will display all of Jamie Thomas' accomplishments.(more)

Plot Outline: A Documentary to accomodate of Jamie 'The Chief' Thomas' accomplishments, and his slow downfall into nazi tendencies. (view trailer)

User Comments: hey this is cool you get to see chief ollie the gonz without shoes(more)

Credited cast:
Jamie Thomas - Himself
Ed Templeton - Himself
Tom Penny - Himself
Tommy Sandoval - Himself
Matt Mumford - Himself
Adrian Lopez - Himself
Donny Barley - Himself
Jamie Thomas' Asian Wife - Herself
Erik Ellington - Himself
Lee Dupont - Himself
Adolf Hitler - Himself

Also Known As:
Chief Pro Skater Go Go Deux! (Japan) (working title)
MPAA: Rated PG-13 for some violent images, language and after black slo-mo.
Runtime: Argentina:100 min (Mar del Plata Film Festival) / Australia:100 min
Country: America
Language: English
Color: Color
Sound Mix: Dolby Digital
Certification: Hong Kong:IIA / Singapore:PG / Sweden:11 / Ireland:12A / USA:PG-13 / UK:12A / Argentina:13 / Australia:M

Quotes:
Chris Cole: I still can't feel my legs after Jamie sent me my first box of product, from that first pair of Zero jeans. I look up to that man.
(more)

Awards: TWS Video of the Year

Bonus Features:
JT Barefoot Skating Sections
Board Gallery
Reason to Believe Part


i'm not taking a side on this one because i don't care but it would be better if chief played all the characters himself instead of the actual person
Not one of the individuals on this messageboard know Jamie on any level.  It is all a huge game of "telephone", I heard this, so and so said that.  Get a life. 

I know him pretty well.
cliff just 0wn3d murlin
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: MURLIN on January 20, 2007, 04:27:14 PM
It is all baseless bullshit.  That is what 95% of this messageboard continually circulates.  Bullshit, gossip. 
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: rootsnsoul on January 20, 2007, 04:27:48 PM
It is all baseless bullshit.  That is what 95% of this messageboard continually circulates.  Bullshit, gossip. 
there it is
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Bill on January 20, 2007, 04:32:44 PM
Not one of the individuals on this messageboard know Jamie on any level.  It is all a huge game of "telephone", I heard this, so and so said that.  Get a life. 

say what you want about jamie, eveyone has there own opnion.

but here is a fact:

jamie is the only guy in skateboarding industry that has honestly gone out of his way to help me out since i have been sponsorless. he sends me boards when i need them. jamie is just a straight forward guy, wich is better then dealing with someone who beats around the bush instead  of giving you an honest answer.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: fuckingvegan on January 20, 2007, 04:34:05 PM
It's true. It's no different than Antihero trying to corner the flannel shirt/Half-Cabs/Burnside market.

Every company has it's image, even if they try to be subtle about it. It's there.

No Anti Hero is a bunch of friends, and no one changed to ride for Anti Hero. You should be ashamed of yourself for saying something so stupid.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: rootsnsoul on January 20, 2007, 04:35:47 PM
It's true. It's no different than Antihero trying to corner the flannel shirt/Half-Cabs/Burnside market.

Every company has it's image, even if they try to be subtle about it. It's there.

No Anti Hero is a bunch of friends, and no one changed to ride for Anti Hero. You should be ashamed of yourself for saying something so stupid.


Not to go at you vegan, but i know Julien. They have a market and they know it.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: fuckingvegan on January 20, 2007, 04:36:02 PM
Not one of the individuals on this messageboard know Jamie on any level.  It is all a huge game of "telephone", I heard this, so and so said that.  Get a life. 

I know him pretty well.

I was room mates with a former team rider.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: fuckingvegan on January 20, 2007, 04:37:26 PM
It's true. It's no different than Antihero trying to corner the flannel shirt/Half-Cabs/Burnside market.

Every company has it's image, even if they try to be subtle about it. It's there.

No Anti Hero is a bunch of friends, and no one changed to ride for Anti Hero. You should be ashamed of yourself for saying something so stupid.


Not to go at you vegan, but i know Julien. They have a market and they know it.

I am not saying that Julien doesn't have a market but he is not forcing anyone to change who they are to ride for Anti Hero, they are who they are no bullshit. Every skate company has an image and that is fine, my problem is forcing people to be something they are not, that reeks of control freak and disgusts me.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: rootsnsoul on January 20, 2007, 04:40:21 PM
True, but like what you said. Some people like getting bossed around. With skateboading growing, making more money,and becoming more americana, we are only waiting for more football players in skateboarding. Sucks.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: The Laps of Alps. on January 20, 2007, 04:44:36 PM
all the non-name name dropping in here is making me nautious
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: jrock on January 20, 2007, 04:45:47 PM
It's true. It's no different than Antihero trying to corner the flannel shirt/Half-Cabs/Burnside market.

Every company has it's image, even if they try to be subtle about it. It's there.

No Anti Hero is a bunch of friends, and no one changed to ride for Anti Hero. You should be ashamed of yourself for saying something so stupid.


Andrew Allen?  I remember him switch heelflip front boarding rails, now he's doing a bunch of wallies and wearing flannels...also, I remember when Tony Miorana was an arty vegetarian who listened to Joy Division (although he did change a while before he got on Anti-Hero).
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: fuckingvegan on January 20, 2007, 04:47:23 PM
It's true. It's no different than Antihero trying to corner the flannel shirt/Half-Cabs/Burnside market.

Every company has it's image, even if they try to be subtle about it. It's there.

No Anti Hero is a bunch of friends, and no one changed to ride for Anti Hero. You should be ashamed of yourself for saying something so stupid.


Andrew Allen?  I remember him switch heelflip front boarding rails, now he's doing a bunch of wallies and wearing flannels...also, I remember when Tony Miorana was an arty vegetarian who listened to Joy Division (although he did change a while before he got on Anti-Hero).

Did Julian Stranger force these people to change? That is what I am saying no he didn't, he didn't send Andrew Alllen a package of cloths and tell him how to wear them.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: jrock on January 20, 2007, 04:51:22 PM
i think people assimilate to be on certain teams.  I serously doubt Julien Stranger tells anyone how to dress, i just see a lot of people jock thier style and attitude to try to be down. 
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: fuckingvegan on January 20, 2007, 04:52:46 PM
i think people assimilate to be on certain teams.  I serously doubt Julien Stranger tells anyone how to dress, i just see a lot of people jock thier style and attitude to try to be down. 

Of course but that is just Julian, if you watch 1800 skypager and then go watch new footage Julian is the same exact person. Now go watch early Jamie Thomas footage to now.....
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: jrock on January 20, 2007, 05:08:08 PM
i wasn't really trying to compare those two guys.  Julien truly does not give a fuck, I just think anti-hero takes that whole attitude a little too far sometimes with the whole being dicks to people, setting skateparks on fire, and whatnot.  Is sucks that a lot of kids jock that attitude and behave like little assholes, but i guess its not Anti-hero's fault, they're just doing their thing.  Jamie, on the other hand, appears to be somewhat out of his mind.  All of the weird shit people say about him is pretty much true.  We had a guy shoot a Louisiana article for Transworld back in the day.  People NEVER come here to shoot skate photos, so it was a long time coming.  Anyway, the article was shot and laid out, and then out of nowhere we heard that it wasn't going to happen.  The word was Jamie was tired of all of these "hometown scene" articles in Transworld and said something to the effect of "why should these nobody guys in some little town get coverage, when me and my riders could get coverage doing the same tricks at the same spots".  it was my first introduction into "skateboard politics" and it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.   still, he seemed nice when I met him.  He gave me a fallen shirt "just to wash your car with or something".  I almost told him "no thanks" before I caught myself and graciously took the shirt..no matter how much of a kook someone is, if they're nice to me I can't help but be nice back...
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: fuckingvegan on January 20, 2007, 05:11:38 PM
i wasn't really trying to compare those two guys.  Julien truly does not give a fuck, I just think anti-hero takes that whole attitude a little too far sometimes with the whole being dicks to people, setting skateparks on fire, and whatnot.  Is sucks that a lot of kids jock that attitude and behave like little assholes, but i guess its not Anti-hero's fault, they're just doing their thing.  Jamie, on the other hand, appears to be somewhat out of his mind.  All of the weird shit people say about him is pretty much true.  We had a guy shoot a Louisiana article for Transworld back in the day.  People NEVER come here to shoot skate photos, so it was a long time coming.  Anyway, the article was shot and laid out, and then out of nowhere we heard that it wasn't going to happen.  The word was Jamie was tired of all of these "hometown scene" articles in Transworld and said something to the effect of "why should these nobody guys in some little town get coverage, when me and my riders could get coverage doing the same tricks at the same spots".  it was my first introduction into "skateboard politics" and it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.   still, he seemed nice when I met him.  He gave me a fallen shirt "just to wash your car with or something".  I almost told him "no thanks" before I caught myself and graciously took the shirt..no matter how much of a kook someone is, if they're nice to me I can't help but be nice back...

Good points.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Mullet Man on January 20, 2007, 05:59:29 PM
It's true. It's no different than Antihero trying to corner the flannel shirt/Half-Cabs/Burnside market.

Every company has it's image, even if they try to be subtle about it. It's there.

No Anti Hero is a bunch of friends, and no one changed to ride for Anti Hero. You should be ashamed of yourself for saying something so stupid.



Every skate company has an image and that is fine...
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: wghpChris on January 20, 2007, 06:02:27 PM
Jamie Thomas is lame. Giving out product is a pretty normal thing....

Who did you live with, fuckingvegan?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: MURLIN on January 20, 2007, 06:06:33 PM
You guys can keep beating around the bush all you like, but eventually your going to trip on a root.

All hear-say, gossip, bullshit.



Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: jrock on January 20, 2007, 06:13:21 PM
People used to call Jamie "Xerox" back in the day for his bad habit of imitating others style and tricks...
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: The Slap Poster Formerly Known As Shughe on January 20, 2007, 07:16:49 PM
Not one of the individuals on this messageboard know Jamie on any level.  It is all a huge game of "telephone", I heard this, so and so said that.  Get a life. 

you dont know me
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: kools on January 20, 2007, 07:47:53 PM
a few skate photographer friends have told me stories about shooting with jamie thomas. apparentily he tells them where they have to stand to take the photos from etc, gives out a big woof whistle whens he about to go for a trick and its on. also been told that hes tells photographers there not allowed to shoot certain tricks because there going to be enders in certain peoples parts. major control freak.
p.s. murlin- messageboards are designed for anonymous shit talking no point coming on here trying to deny it.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Maple Syrup on January 20, 2007, 08:01:17 PM
i bet all these stories of him telling people what to wear are wrong.  i think he probably just gave someone a package of clothes cause they needed new shirts or something, and they wore the ones he gave them.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Edward Penishands on January 20, 2007, 08:21:53 PM
It's true. It's no different than Antihero trying to corner the flannel shirt/Half-Cabs/Burnside market.

Every company has it's image, even if they try to be subtle about it. It's there.

No Anti Hero is a bunch of friends, and no one changed to ride for Anti Hero. You should be ashamed of yourself for saying something so stupid.


he's simply stating the market that they are trying to corner, which is true.  every company has an image and everyone buys into it.  sure DGK makes good boards with nice shapes, but if im at a shop and want to ride a kayo deck im obviously going to go for an exp-1 before a DGK simply because im paying money for the deck and part of that is for an image.  regardless, of what you do, you got an image.  even kev with his "im so poor and life is so hard in canada that i buy blank decks cause i love skating so much even though its aboot time i got a job and somewhere greater than micky Ds.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: cliff on January 20, 2007, 08:22:37 PM
How many dudes that work at black box are on here?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Jackers on January 20, 2007, 09:36:03 PM
Not me, Im on the Brown Box man. UPS
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: slurthic on January 20, 2007, 09:38:13 PM
jamie thomas seems like a tool, we all know that. i doubt that he told chris cole how to dress to fit the part, because if chris cole started wearing mesh pants and xxl yellow t shirts with a fuckin penis haircut again do you think thomas would give him the boot, no way
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: golgo13 on January 20, 2007, 09:49:03 PM
thje frank gerwer who rode for the firm and the frank on antihero are definetly not the same guys.
people change.
for who or what reason noone knows.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Bill on January 20, 2007, 10:00:05 PM
i bet all these stories of him telling people what to wear are wrong.  i think he probably just gave someone a package of clothes cause they needed new shirts or something, and they wore the ones he gave them.

jamie thomas seems like a tool, we all know that. i doubt that he told chris cole how to dress to fit the part, because if chris cole started wearing mesh pants and xxl yellow t shirts with a fuckin penis haircut again do you think thomas would give him the boot, no way

Cole admitted to it in an interview, how much more proof do you need?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: alexx on January 20, 2007, 10:11:39 PM
i don't have much respect for the dude. the whole image he markets is so pathetic too. the zero/fallen team are full of dull skaters who are so boring to watch. style or originality is a mystery to them.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Gest on January 20, 2007, 10:15:01 PM
andrew allen was a pretty technical rail skater when he first got in the scene in like 2004

switch bigspin front boards on rails

in the new thrasher video, with anti-hero as his sponsor, he is seen doing lots of transition, and wallie to boardslides on hubbas

the people you skate with rub off on you
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Brown Cords on January 21, 2007, 01:10:04 AM
It is all baseless bullshit.  That is what 95% of this messageboard continually circulates.  Bullshit, gossip. 
Boards like this are just a bit of fun. Try not to get too down about it dude.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: trent steel on January 21, 2007, 08:12:57 AM
andrew allen was a pretty technical rail skater when he first got in the scene in like 2004

switch bigspin front boards on rails

in the new thrasher video, with anti-hero as his sponsor, he is seen doing lots of transition, and wallie to boardslides on hubbas

the people you skate with rub off on you
his check out thing in skateboarder was a switch back tail on a rail.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: gub on January 21, 2007, 08:23:34 AM
It is all baseless bullshit.  That is what 95% of this messageboard continually circulates.  Bullshit, gossip. 
Boards like this are just a bit of fun. Try not to get too down about it dude.

he doesn't usually, only when zero/jamie thomas is brought up
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: fuckingvegan on January 21, 2007, 08:43:54 AM
Jamie Thomas is lame. Giving out product is a pretty normal thing....

Who did you live with, fuckingvegan?

One of the original Zero riders.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: jacek on January 21, 2007, 09:04:54 AM
a few skate photographer friends have told me stories about shooting with jamie thomas. apparentily he tells them where they have to stand to take the photos from etc, gives out a big woof whistle whens he about to go for a trick and its on. also been told that hes tells photographers there not allowed to shoot certain tricks because there going to be enders in certain peoples parts. major control freak.
p.s. murlin- messageboards are designed for anonymous shit talking no point coming on here trying to deny it.
so your telling me, if you were doing a trick, a huge hammer persay, and its an ender for a video from which you make money off of, you wouldn't tell the photographer to stop?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Claude on January 21, 2007, 10:13:41 AM
Jamie Thomas is lame. Giving out product is a pretty normal thing....

Who did you live with, fuckingvegan?

One of the original Zero riders.
Aaron Harrison?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Mullet Man on January 21, 2007, 11:19:16 AM
thje frank gerwer who rode for the firm and the frank on antihero are definetly not the same guys.
people change.
for who or what reason noone knows.

When I first read this thread, I was gonna post an ad that Frank did with The Firm and one he did for AntiHero, but I couldn't find the AntiHero one. Anyway, here's the Firm one, which is obviously way different than the ones now of him sitting by an empty pool in a flannel drinkin' a beer and all that shit.

(http://www.jonhumphriesphoto.com/Still%20Pages/Advertising/The%20Firm/06Frank%20Gerwer.jpg)

Every company has an art director, even if it's the company owner himself. And the art director's job is to create the image of the company, and that definitely affects the way the public sees them. That's the whole point. It's a business.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: krapnek on January 21, 2007, 11:43:15 AM
thje frank gerwer who rode for the firm and the frank on antihero are definetly not the same guys.
people change.
for who or what reason noone knows.

When I first read this thread, I was gonna post an ad that Frank did with The Firm and one he did for AntiHero, but I couldn't find the AntiHero one. Anyway, here's the Firm one, which is obviously way different than the ones now of him sitting by an empty pool in a flannel drinkin' a beer and all that shit.

(http://www.jonhumphriesphoto.com/Still%20Pages/Advertising/The%20Firm/06Frank%20Gerwer.jpg)

Every company has an art director, even if it's the company owner himself. And the art director's job is to create the image of the company, and that definitely affects the way the public sees them. That's the whole point. It's a business.

frank is just better off skating for a company like antihero that appreciates his drunkeness and the fact he kickflipped wallenburg.  in case you forgot, he ALSO wears a suit in cash money vagrant.   andrew allen had a nollie frontside flips into a bank in a recent thrasher.  tony mirano got beat up by tony alva.  julien stranger pioneered a look that over a decade to catch on in williamsburg.  whatever.  andy roy was a fanny lancer for a while.  cardiel is a rasta dj.  and they stood by and let tony t dress up like a clown for like 4 years.  fuck!  that's diversity. don't get fooled by recurring dickies and old school vans. AND, don't trust a big butt and a smile.

can someone from the industry give us any numbers of total board sales for the different companies?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Mullet Man on January 21, 2007, 12:01:13 PM
Word up to the butt/smile advice!
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: ridewrite on January 21, 2007, 09:43:15 PM
The problem is Jamie Thomas runs zero like a business rather than a skateboard team, but when you face facts zero is a business. I'm sure if your boss thought you wern't pulling your weight they'd tell you to do your job better or suggest where your going wrong. How is that different to him telling skaters what tricks to do?

It is one thing to suggest to someone to try a trick and another to force people to dress different, having magazine photo shop "flair" into photos, forcing people to try tricks until they are to hurt to skate etc....
If I had a boss like that I would call the whistle blower hotline quick.


mike ternasky anybody? seriously jamie didn't start nothin
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: j....soy..... on January 21, 2007, 10:24:06 PM
i'll see your ternasky and up you a stacy parelta.....

i did an interview before w. ryan smith w. lyndsey robertson and another time w. keegan... they all know what they are getting themselves into and what they have to do.....in turn jamie thomas treats them better than any other company out there....

Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: golgo13 on January 21, 2007, 10:29:55 PM
and in case weve all forgotten, if you wanna get paid to skateboard you better be able to sell skateboards.
some people need more than skill, others don't.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: j....soy..... on January 21, 2007, 10:40:42 PM
sometimes you just need to pull your weight on a team that sells tons of boards to make good money....
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: . . . on January 22, 2007, 05:58:37 AM
http://www.twsbiz.com/twbiz/profiles/article/0,21214,1559504,00.html

"Most of the people that ride for our teams or work at Black Box are motivated and down to work. If someone’s not into working then we usually advise them to go somewhere where they’re not required to work."
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: fuckingvegan on January 22, 2007, 06:51:34 AM
http://www.twsbiz.com/twbiz/profiles/article/0,21214,1559504,00.html

"Most of the people that ride for our teams or work at Black Box are motivated and down to work. If someone’s not into working then we usually advise them to go somewhere where they’re not required to work."

So what kind of work is it to photoshop bandannas on people and send boxed of cloths to people to tell them how to dress 100% differently they do at the time.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: krapnek on January 22, 2007, 06:57:09 AM
http://www.twsbiz.com/twbiz/profiles/article/0,21214,1559504,00.html

"Most of the people that ride for our teams or work at Black Box are motivated and down to work. If someone’s not into working then we usually advise them to go somewhere where they’re not required to work."

So what kind of work is it to photoshop bandannas on people and send boxed of cloths to people to tell them how to dress 100% differently they do at the time.

can anyone post the image where a bandanna was photoshopped into a picture?  i'm sure it happened, but i really wnat to see it.  that's just ridiculous.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: j....soy..... on January 22, 2007, 07:08:08 PM
http://www.twsbiz.com/twbiz/profiles/article/0,21214,1559504,00.html

"Most of the people that ride for our teams or work at Black Box are motivated and down to work. If someone’s not into working then we usually advise them to go somewhere where they’re not required to work."

So what kind of work is it to photoshop bandannas on people and send boxed of cloths to people to tell them how to dress 100% differently they do at the time.

if the guy's worst traits are photoshopping in bandanas and sending boxes of clothing.......
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: ymhy on January 23, 2007, 06:43:30 AM
he's definitely a total shitbag, mad people have already heard my "mittens" story about him.

ryan smith talked about JT forcing him to do that crooked grind at the end of his zero part, on his birthday no less.  they get there and JT tells him he's not letting him in the van to leave until he does it.  i think he did end up making it first try, not like you could really go at that thing for more than a few attempts in the first place.

either way, JT is an overrated, controlling, manipulative shithead and if his piece of shit skateboarding career and all of his gay, contrived companies ended and shut the fuck down at 3 pm today i'd probably go buy a pint a whiskey.  well, i'm gonna do that anyway, but at least then i'd have something to celebrate.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: alexander32thegrea on January 23, 2007, 08:23:11 AM
yeah fuck jamie thomas and his wack compnanies i hope his son turns out to be gay! imagine that dellimna
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: billrey on January 23, 2007, 08:49:53 AM
Im sure the stories have all been exaggerated and Im sure hes just like any other company owner. I bet he didnt tell Chris Cole he had to wear this or he was off the team...but more likely said "Hey try out these pants" or "You should listen to this band"...When you hang out with certain people, you become more like those people. Its really not a big deal. The guys just doing what he can to make money and skateboard, can you really be mad at that?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: aguywhoskates on January 23, 2007, 08:51:00 AM
he's definitely a total shitbag, mad people have already heard my "mittens" story about him.

ryan smith talked about JT forcing him to do that crooked grind at the end of his zero part, on his birthday no less.  they get there and JT tells him he's not letting him in the van to leave until he does it.  i think he did end up making it first try, not like you could really go at that thing for more than a few attempts in the first place.

either way, JT is an overrated, controlling, manipulative shithead and if his piece of shit skateboarding career and all of his gay, contrived companies ended and shut the fuck down at 3 pm today i'd probably go buy a pint a whiskey.  well, i'm gonna do that anyway, but at least then i'd have something to celebrate.

Where do the "mittens" come in this story? anyways, i think jamie is fucked if everything here is true.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: scuzzo84 on January 23, 2007, 08:51:19 AM
i heard that hes such a dick, he took his whole team for chocolate sundays once and only got them the medium size. what an asshole

oh shit post of the past!
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Mullet Man on January 23, 2007, 09:23:54 AM
I'll never believe the photoshop story until I actually see the picture.

I'm waiting...
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: LRGeek on January 23, 2007, 10:19:20 AM
you think a team manager would try and get someone to try something if they didnt believe they could do it? ive had it before froma team manager telling me you better do something worthwhile or you are walking home and pointing out something id never try...and it works. its helps you progress, they not really gonna make you walk home its extra motivation and them zero boys are seriousley pushing some gnarly shit
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: loveslayton on January 23, 2007, 11:06:02 AM
it was great when raymond molinar called him out for making people dress like that in some thrasher interview does anyone have that
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: smithgrind on January 23, 2007, 11:09:49 AM
i think i remember that dave carnie quote as being a joke, exaggerating jamie's controlling nature to an absurd degree. so until someone can post evidence of a photoshopped jelly bracelet, please just assume that it was a joke.

(now is the time for everyone to take their favorite zero skater photo and photoshop the shit out of it. cloning tool? what's a cloning tool?)
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: cliff on January 23, 2007, 12:39:38 PM
you think a team manager would try and get someone to try something if they didnt believe they could do it? ive had it before froma team manager telling me you better do something worthwhile or you are walking home and pointing out something id never try...and it works. its helps you progress, they not really gonna make you walk home its extra motivation and them zero boys are seriousley pushing some gnarly shit

Lee?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: LRGeek on January 23, 2007, 12:41:11 PM
nah my names not lee..maybe you mean blackwell?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: cliff on January 23, 2007, 12:44:10 PM
^^ my bad, my bad
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: ridewrite on January 23, 2007, 02:14:30 PM
lets see:

1. globe photoshopped shoes onto jake duncombes feet cause he was wearing slippers.

2. PJ Ladd skated way differently from Wonderful Horrible Life to Really Sorry? Bastien Salabanzi talked about how he never skated big rails until Rowley and Arto started making him do like taunting and stuff.

3. Julien Stranger may not have forced Andrew Allen or the other guys to change by buying them clothes and making them wear it, but he does send Andrew packages and I bet theres some flannel in there, fuckingvegan.

4. what about creation and stuff? nobody talks about how all those guys are all hippies or how baker dudes take all the kids out to parties and drinking when they're 12 YEARS OLD!

5. You have to market yourself. Why do you think that Robbie McKinley ain't pro, everybody knows hes got the skills (even Carroll and Howard) but no market man. If he started wearing flannels and half-cabs hed be pro.

Jamies just more outspoken and therefore easier to target. You think Chris Cole would even be pro if it weren't for Jamie? Circa and World Industries (thats right he rode for them and Enjoi) weren't taking him anywhere.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Mullet Man on January 23, 2007, 02:34:13 PM
What's worse - coming up from nothing and creating and maintaining a successful company doing something you love? Or spreading rumors about those who do on the internet?

no proof = RUMOR

again... NO PROOF = RUMOR

How many skater-owned companies last for five minutes? I have the answer - tons of them. JT's companies are growing and growing. That does not happen by accident. I could see people hating if JT and Co. had no skills. But those guys are sick as fuck! And they can run a business. That's more than most of us can say for ourselves. So he pushes his riders. Big deal. Some of YOU could use some pushing. Then maybe you'd have something to show besides a bunch of message board talky-talk.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: kids on January 23, 2007, 02:38:45 PM
eveyone has a mean side, jaime is just too controlling
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: otis b driftwood on January 23, 2007, 02:42:10 PM
What's worse - coming up from nothing and creating and maintaining a successful company doing something you love?

jamie thomas hates skateboarding.

or at least he hates skateboarders.

he loves himself and money.

Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Mullet Man on January 23, 2007, 02:49:29 PM
Bullshit. You don't get that good at something by hating it. That's ridiculous.

If you don't dig their vibe, fine. There are plenty of other companies. But don't knock a guy for being successful. It reeks of highschool girl jealousy, not skateboarding.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Mullet Man on January 23, 2007, 02:50:25 PM
eveyone has a mean side, jaime is just too controlling

Every boss is "too controlling". You learn that real quick when you become an adult. Unfortunately.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: otis b driftwood on January 23, 2007, 02:56:10 PM
Bullshit. You don't get that good at something by hating it. That's ridiculous.

If you don't dig their vibe, fine. There are plenty of other companies. But don't knock a guy for being successful. It reeks of highschool girl jealousy, not skateboarding.

you will never learn 360 flips.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Mullet Man on January 23, 2007, 03:10:07 PM
Tell me something I don't already know, motherfucker.

Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Claude on January 23, 2007, 03:24:01 PM
What's worse - coming up from nothing and creating and maintaining a successful company doing something you love?

jamie thomas hates skateboarding.

or at least he hates skateboarders.

he loves himself and money.



and jesus, and geddy lee.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Mullet Man on January 23, 2007, 03:37:24 PM
And photoshop!!!1!!wun!1!!
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: ciaran on January 23, 2007, 04:08:23 PM
What's worse - coming up from nothing and creating and maintaining a successful company doing something you love? Or spreading rumors about those who do on the internet?

no proof = RUMOR

again... NO PROOF = RUMOR

How many skater-owned companies last for five minutes? I have the answer - tons of them. JT's companies are growing and growing. That does not happen by accident. I could see people hating if JT and Co. had no skills. But those guys are sick as fuck! And they can run a business. That's more than most of us can say for ourselves. So he pushes his riders. Big deal. Some of YOU could use some pushing. Then maybe you'd have something to show besides a bunch of message board talky-talk.

Bullshit. You don't get that good at something by hating it. That's ridiculous.

If you don't dig their vibe, fine. There are plenty of other companies. But don't knock a guy for being successful. It reeks of highschool girl jealousy, not skateboarding.

This man talks sense.  In the meantime, kids are more stoked on massive corporations like Nike SB or Vans Syndicate, but yet still continue to slate a successful skater owned and operated company and the skater in question, all due to internet whispers.  I'm not into the hair-metal flair, painted pants, the old Zero editing, overused fisheye angles or much to do with Zero at the moment, but you've got to give JT credit for building his company up to what it is now, from sleeping rough in his car in SF in the early 90s.  Not forgetting that he's 34 or 35 now and still skating hard when many contemporaries have slipped down and out of skating altogether.

As for the telling Ryan Smith to kgrind that rail - you can take any similar statement out of context and it sounds lame.  As LRGeek said, it's extra motivation to try something challenging like that.  We all give and get it in different amounts from the guys we skate with.   If there were any beef over that particular incident, then do you honestly think that Smith would still be involved with Zero/Mystery over 4 years later?

As somebody else said here before, "haters will continue to hate and will get nothing done themselves".
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: otis b driftwood on January 23, 2007, 04:25:05 PM
What's worse - coming up from nothing and creating and maintaining a successful company doing something you love? Or spreading rumors about those who do on the internet?

no proof = RUMOR

again... NO PROOF = RUMOR

How many skater-owned companies last for five minutes? I have the answer - tons of them. JT's companies are growing and growing. That does not happen by accident. I could see people hating if JT and Co. had no skills. But those guys are sick as fuck! And they can run a business. That's more than most of us can say for ourselves. So he pushes his riders. Big deal. Some of YOU could use some pushing. Then maybe you'd have something to show besides a bunch of message board talky-talk.

Bullshit. You don't get that good at something by hating it. That's ridiculous.

If you don't dig their vibe, fine. There are plenty of other companies. But don't knock a guy for being successful. It reeks of highschool girl jealousy, not skateboarding.

This man talks sense.  In the meantime, kids are more stoked on massive corporations like Nike SB or Vans Syndicate, but yet still continue to slate a successful skater owned and operated company and the skater in question, all due to internet whispers.  I'm not into the hair-metal flair, painted pants, the old Zero editing, overused fisheye angles or much to do with Zero at the moment, but you've got to give JT credit for building his company up to what it is now, from sleeping rough in his car in SF in the early 90s.  Not forgetting that he's 34 or 35 now and still skating hard when many contemporaries have slipped down and out of skating altogether.

As for the telling Ryan Smith to kgrind that rail - you can take any similar statement out of context and it sounds lame.  As LRGeek said, it's extra motivation to try something challenging like that.  We all give and get it in different amounts from the guys we skate with.   If there were any beef over that particular incident, then do you honestly think that Smith would still be involved with Zero/Mystery over 4 years later?

As somebody else said here before, "haters will continue to hate and will get nothing done themselves".

so you're saying i should respect him because he's good at business and marketing?
despite all the shit i've heard about him pretty much since he first came up, some rumours,some facts?

also your gay little quote makes no sense.
if gonz didn't hate vision there would have been no blind.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: ciaran on January 23, 2007, 04:38:21 PM
Nicely skirted around what I said.  When you go from sleeping rough to running your own multi-million dollar company, in a field you love in less than 10 years, fuck yes, you'll get my respect.

And from what I understand, there's a world of difference between Brad Dorfman and Jamie Thomas.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Mullet Man on January 23, 2007, 04:46:11 PM
What's worse - coming up from nothing and creating and maintaining a successful company doing something you love? Or spreading rumors about those who do on the internet?

no proof = RUMOR

again... NO PROOF = RUMOR

How many skater-owned companies last for five minutes? I have the answer - tons of them. JT's companies are growing and growing. That does not happen by accident. I could see people hating if JT and Co. had no skills. But those guys are sick as fuck! And they can run a business. That's more than most of us can say for ourselves. So he pushes his riders. Big deal. Some of YOU could use some pushing. Then maybe you'd have something to show besides a bunch of message board talky-talk.

Bullshit. You don't get that good at something by hating it. That's ridiculous.

If you don't dig their vibe, fine. There are plenty of other companies. But don't knock a guy for being successful. It reeks of highschool girl jealousy, not skateboarding.

This man talks sense.  In the meantime, kids are more stoked on massive corporations like Nike SB or Vans Syndicate, but yet still continue to slate a successful skater owned and operated company and the skater in question, all due to internet whispers.  I'm not into the hair-metal flair, painted pants, the old Zero editing, overused fisheye angles or much to do with Zero at the moment, but you've got to give JT credit for building his company up to what it is now, from sleeping rough in his car in SF in the early 90s.  Not forgetting that he's 34 or 35 now and still skating hard when many contemporaries have slipped down and out of skating altogether.

As for the telling Ryan Smith to kgrind that rail - you can take any similar statement out of context and it sounds lame.  As LRGeek said, it's extra motivation to try something challenging like that.  We all give and get it in different amounts from the guys we skate with.   If there were any beef over that particular incident, then do you honestly think that Smith would still be involved with Zero/Mystery over 4 years later?

As somebody else said here before, "haters will continue to hate and will get nothing done themselves".

so you're saying i should respect him because he's good at business and marketing?
despite all the shit i've heard about him pretty much since he first came up, some rumours,some facts?

also your gay little quote makes no sense.
if gonz didn't hate vision there would have been no blind.


He sure didn't hate Rocco for being a good businessman/asshole/shitty skater!

It's quite ironic that you bring up Rocco, a guy who used to BRIBE his team to do stunts. This is referenced in several interviews (I'll find out the exact ones, if you need me to). It's no different.

What's the difference between Rocco paying off team riders with cash to do stunts and JT bribing them with iPods and product? There is no difference. It's just that kids today haven't seen this scenario play itself out several times yet. They probably think JT invented it. Hahaha! Right.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: otis b driftwood on January 23, 2007, 04:54:14 PM
He sure didn't hate Rocco for being a good businessman/asshole/shitty skater!

It's quite ironic that you bring up Rocco, a guy who used to BRIBE his team to do stunts. This is referenced in several interviews (I'll find out the exact ones, if you need me to). It's no different.

What's the difference between Rocco paying off team riders with cash to do stunts and JT bribing them with iPods and product? There is no difference. It's just that kids today haven't seen this scenario play itself out several times yet. They probably think JT invented it. Hahaha! Right.

are you retarded?

there is no difference between rocco paying his professional riders to do tricks which is essentially what all companies with pros do and jamie thomas telling his pros what to wear, how they should have their hair and what music to like and basically turning them into mini-me's of himself?

and pointing out similarities between your idol and someone you describe as an asshole is not really going to do your argument any favours.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Sheep on January 23, 2007, 04:55:28 PM
At the beginning of this thread, my opinion of Jamie was just kinda whatevs. Not my cup o' tea, but hey, whatever, he's doin' his own thing.

Now I understand that he actually controls the universe and without him the planets would slip from their orbits and all life as we now know it would forever cease to be.

My opinion has now changed. Anyone with that much Dark Powers has earned my respect!

All hail the Chief! All hail the Great One!!
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: j....soy..... on January 23, 2007, 05:31:52 PM
you don't think these dudes that ride for zero and mystery have minds of their own? 
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: CLUBBER on January 23, 2007, 05:42:58 PM
me and my friends were skating a spot and the zero crew rolled up jamie started trying to tell me and my friends how to skate the stairs we were like fuck you jesus then jamie got tommmy gunns to beat our asses
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: j....soy..... on January 23, 2007, 05:45:42 PM
i bet he had hankies for everyone....
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: kelchmonster on January 23, 2007, 05:48:32 PM
i love it
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Mullet Man on January 23, 2007, 06:52:36 PM
He sure didn't hate Rocco for being a good businessman/asshole/shitty skater!

It's quite ironic that you bring up Rocco, a guy who used to BRIBE his team to do stunts. This is referenced in several interviews (I'll find out the exact ones, if you need me to). It's no different.

What's the difference between Rocco paying off team riders with cash to do stunts and JT bribing them with iPods and product? There is no difference. It's just that kids today haven't seen this scenario play itself out several times yet. They probably think JT invented it. Hahaha! Right.

are you retarded?

there is no difference between rocco paying his professional riders to do tricks which is essentially what all companies with pros do and jamie thomas telling his pros what to wear, how they should have their hair and what music to like and basically turning them into mini-me's of himself?

and pointing out similarities between your idol and someone you describe as an asshole is not really going to do your argument any favours.


Nope, for one thing when did he tell those dudes what to wear? Let's start with that. Hair and music? Where did you hear this? On the "internette"? Please. I've been skating for 12 years, but I've never owned a Zero deck or any other JT stuff. But I do respect him and what he does. I don't buy into rumors. There's a lot of them in skateboarding. Stick around and you hear some doozies.

I did point out similarities between JT, who some of you think is an asshole (and you hate) and someone who many other people think is an asshole (but you pointed out his company, Blind, as the smart option for The Gonz). They do the same thing - sell skateboards.

Rocco's antics are a part of skateboard history. The JT bandana stuff is internet rumors. I'm still waiting for someone to post that picture. Any time now...
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: fuckingvegan on January 23, 2007, 07:30:59 PM
lets see:

1. globe photoshopped shoes onto jake duncombes feet cause he was wearing slippers.

2. PJ Ladd skated way differently from Wonderful Horrible Life to Really Sorry? Bastien Salabanzi talked about how he never skated big rails until Rowley and Arto started making him do like taunting and stuff.

3. Julien Stranger may not have forced Andrew Allen or the other guys to change by buying them clothes and making them wear it, but he does send Andrew packages and I bet theres some flannel in there, fuckingvegan.

4. what about creation and stuff? nobody talks about how all those guys are all hippies or how baker dudes take all the kids out to parties and drinking when they're 12 YEARS OLD!

5. You have to market yourself. Why do you think that Robbie McKinley ain't pro, everybody knows hes got the skills (even Carroll and Howard) but no market man. If he started wearing flannels and half-cabs hed be pro.

Jamies just more outspoken and therefore easier to target. You think Chris Cole would even be pro if it weren't for Jamie? Circa and World Industries (thats right he rode for them and Enjoi) weren't taking him anywhere.

Don't you have floors to mop at Blackbox? Ask Jamie if he still has the visor from the Spitfire video, that shit was funny.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: fuckingvegan on January 23, 2007, 07:45:21 PM
I have nothing but respect that Jamie made a big skateboard company, but that doesn't mean I have to think his shit don't stink. Just like Rocco before him (whose products for the most part I boycotted after the first two years) I don't like people who are controlling. I use to like Zero, had some of their first boards and was stoked on Jamie, he was a breath of fresh air in the early/mid 90's. Look at Zero when it started it was a bunch of raw dudes but  you could tell the difference between them.
I just don't like what it has morphed into and yes for the record I do take it personally that he treated veganism as nothing more then a trend to sell a couple of boards, in fact that alone is enough for me to dislike him. Zero has some amazing riders but hell can't we get past this 80's hair metal throwback? That stuff sucked in the 80's and is even worse now. Fuck if you are going to dress metal take some pointers from the Creature team, that is metal not dressing up like a demented transvestite.
And to everyone riding Anti Hero's nuts get the fuck off, those guys are the real deal, no gimmicks just being who the fuck they are and people can't accept that, Anti Hero is the same as it was 10 years ago, and to me that says a lot.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: wghpChris on January 23, 2007, 07:52:44 PM
I forgot about his whole vegan deal. Probably the same thing with those West Memphis Three boards too.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Self-Educated on January 23, 2007, 07:56:23 PM
me and my friends were skating a spot and the zero crew rolled up jamie started trying to tell me and my friends how to skate the stairs we were like fuck you jesus then jamie got tommmy gunns to beat our asses


Maybe he was trying to give you some tips? Usually when someone of that stature gives me advice, I shut the fuck up, open my ears, and listen really hard. He knows what he's talking about, personal bullshit or not.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: fuckingvegan on January 23, 2007, 08:04:22 PM
me and my friends were skating a spot and the zero crew rolled up jamie started trying to tell me and my friends how to skate the stairs we were like fuck you jesus then jamie got tommmy gunns to beat our asses


Maybe he was trying to give you some tips? Usually when someone of that stature gives me advice, I shut the fuck up, open my ears, and listen really hard. He knows what he's talking about, personal bullshit or not.

The fact that this person said Tommy Gunns lead me to think it was a fake account.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: jrock on January 23, 2007, 09:09:45 PM
He sure didn't hate Rocco for being a good businessman/asshole/shitty skater!

It's quite ironic that you bring up Rocco, a guy who used to BRIBE his team to do stunts. This is referenced in several interviews (I'll find out the exact ones, if you need me to). It's no different.

What's the difference between Rocco paying off team riders with cash to do stunts and JT bribing them with iPods and product? There is no difference. It's just that kids today haven't seen this scenario play itself out several times yet. They probably think JT invented it. Hahaha! Right.

are you retarded?

there is no difference between rocco paying his professional riders to do tricks which is essentially what all companies with pros do and jamie thomas telling his pros what to wear, how they should have their hair and what music to like and basically turning them into mini-me's of himself?

and pointing out similarities between your idol and someone you describe as an asshole is not really going to do your argument any favours.


Nope, for one thing when did he tell those dudes what to wear? Let's start with that. Hair and music? Where did you hear this? On the "internette"? Please. I've been skating for 12 years, but I've never owned a Zero deck or any other JT stuff. But I do respect him and what he does. I don't buy into rumors. There's a lot of them in skateboarding. Stick around and you hear some doozies.

I did point out similarities between JT, who some of you think is an asshole (and you hate) and someone who many other people think is an asshole (but you pointed out his company, Blind, as the smart option for The Gonz). They do the same thing - sell skateboards.

Rocco's antics are a part of skateboard history. The JT bandana stuff is internet rumors. I'm still waiting for someone to post that picture. Any time now...

the bandana thing was said by Dave Carine in an interview; he used to be the editor of Big Brother and still writes for the Skateboard Mag.  That is not hearsay, the guy said it outright...

Just because we are talking about this on the "innernet" does not mean that some of us don't work in or have industry connections, work in shops that have dealings with Jamie Thomas and his representatives, or have dealt with the man on a personal level.  Every "unsubstantiated rumor" I've heard on this board is something that I've heard many times before.  These stories didn't just materialize out of thin air.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: alexx on January 23, 2007, 10:30:58 PM
lets see:

2. PJ Ladd skated way differently from Wonderful Horrible Life to Really Sorry? Bastien Salabanzi talked about how he never skated big rails until Rowley and Arto started making him do like taunting and stuff.

4. what about creation and stuff? nobody talks about how all those guys are all hippies or how baker dudes take all the kids out to parties and drinking when they're 12 YEARS OLD!

2. pj ladd doesn't skate any differently from 'wonderful horrible life'. i have no idea where you got that from.

4. even if baker took their AMs out to parties or encouraged drinking, how is that seen as manipulative?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Bill on January 24, 2007, 02:05:52 AM
He sure didn't hate Rocco for being a good businessman/asshole/shitty skater!

It's quite ironic that you bring up Rocco, a guy who used to BRIBE his team to do stunts. This is referenced in several interviews (I'll find out the exact ones, if you need me to). It's no different.

What's the difference between Rocco paying off team riders with cash to do stunts and JT bribing them with iPods and product? There is no difference. It's just that kids today haven't seen this scenario play itself out several times yet. They probably think JT invented it. Hahaha! Right.

are you retarded?

there is no difference between rocco paying his professional riders to do tricks which is essentially what all companies with pros do and jamie thomas telling his pros what to wear, how they should have their hair and what music to like and basically turning them into mini-me's of himself?

and pointing out similarities between your idol and someone you describe as an asshole is not really going to do your argument any favours.


Nope, for one thing when did he tell those dudes what to wear? Let's start with that. Hair and music? Where did you hear this? On the "internette"? Please. I've been skating for 12 years, but I've never owned a Zero deck or any other JT stuff. But I do respect him and what he does. I don't buy into rumors. There's a lot of them in skateboarding. Stick around and you hear some doozies.

I did point out similarities between JT, who some of you think is an asshole (and you hate) and someone who many other people think is an asshole (but you pointed out his company, Blind, as the smart option for The Gonz). They do the same thing - sell skateboards.

Rocco's antics are a part of skateboard history. The JT bandana stuff is internet rumors. I'm still waiting for someone to post that picture. Any time now...

Have you read the Chris Cole interview when he admits that Jamie sent him a bunch of tight, black clothes to wear?  What more proof do you need?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: punch drunk love on January 24, 2007, 02:30:04 AM
I agree with Vegan, I think the main differences between the Zero of Now and the Zero of Misled Youth is that although the talent of the team is undeniable, realistically they are stylistically copying their predecessors from the Misled Youth days (with the exception of Rattray).  When that vid came out, everything was raw and original.  Dudes like Ellington and Greco brought that style back into the mainstream, they may not have pioneered that look and style of skating and flair, but they did resurrect it and make it popular.
Fuck, Jamie probably was more influenced by the Misled Youth team than them being influenced by him.
So at the end of the day Zero can never be the company it was because dudes on now look and skate the way they do because of that whole video.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Mullet Man on January 24, 2007, 04:52:19 AM
He sure didn't hate Rocco for being a good businessman/asshole/shitty skater!

It's quite ironic that you bring up Rocco, a guy who used to BRIBE his team to do stunts. This is referenced in several interviews (I'll find out the exact ones, if you need me to). It's no different.

What's the difference between Rocco paying off team riders with cash to do stunts and JT bribing them with iPods and product? There is no difference. It's just that kids today haven't seen this scenario play itself out several times yet. They probably think JT invented it. Hahaha! Right.

are you retarded?

there is no difference between rocco paying his professional riders to do tricks which is essentially what all companies with pros do and jamie thomas telling his pros what to wear, how they should have their hair and what music to like and basically turning them into mini-me's of himself?

and pointing out similarities between your idol and someone you describe as an asshole is not really going to do your argument any favours.


Nope, for one thing when did he tell those dudes what to wear? Let's start with that. Hair and music? Where did you hear this? On the "internette"? Please. I've been skating for 12 years, but I've never owned a Zero deck or any other JT stuff. But I do respect him and what he does. I don't buy into rumors. There's a lot of them in skateboarding. Stick around and you hear some doozies.

I did point out similarities between JT, who some of you think is an asshole (and you hate) and someone who many other people think is an asshole (but you pointed out his company, Blind, as the smart option for The Gonz). They do the same thing - sell skateboards.

Rocco's antics are a part of skateboard history. The JT bandana stuff is internet rumors. I'm still waiting for someone to post that picture. Any time now...

Have you read the Chris Cole interview when he admits that Jamie sent him a bunch of tight, black clothes to wear?  What more proof do you need?

You see, this is how rumors get started. His sponsor sent him a box of the clothes they make. You think that's unusual? It would've been unusual if he had sent him big, baggy pants or something. But he sent him Fallen product. And the rumor mill takes that and goes crazy? Worse than girls, I tell ya. Unbelievable.

Let's see the Carnie interview or a pic of the bandana already. Oh wait, no one can seem to find it. Hmmm....
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: L.S on January 24, 2007, 05:16:14 AM
He sure didn't hate Rocco for being a good businessman/asshole/shitty skater!

It's quite ironic that you bring up Rocco, a guy who used to BRIBE his team to do stunts. This is referenced in several interviews (I'll find out the exact ones, if you need me to). It's no different.

What's the difference between Rocco paying off team riders with cash to do stunts and JT bribing them with iPods and product? There is no difference. It's just that kids today haven't seen this scenario play itself out several times yet. They probably think JT invented it. Hahaha! Right.

are you retarded?

there is no difference between rocco paying his professional riders to do tricks which is essentially what all companies with pros do and jamie thomas telling his pros what to wear, how they should have their hair and what music to like and basically turning them into mini-me's of himself?

and pointing out similarities between your idol and someone you describe as an asshole is not really going to do your argument any favours.


Nope, for one thing when did he tell those dudes what to wear? Let's start with that. Hair and music? Where did you hear this? On the "internette"? Please. I've been skating for 12 years, but I've never owned a Zero deck or any other JT stuff. But I do respect him and what he does. I don't buy into rumors. There's a lot of them in skateboarding. Stick around and you hear some doozies.

I did point out similarities between JT, who some of you think is an asshole (and you hate) and someone who many other people think is an asshole (but you pointed out his company, Blind, as the smart option for The Gonz). They do the same thing - sell skateboards.

Rocco's antics are a part of skateboard history. The JT bandana stuff is internet rumors. I'm still waiting for someone to post that picture. Any time now...

Have you read the Chris Cole interview when he admits that Jamie sent him a bunch of tight, black clothes to wear? What more proof do you need?

You see, this is how rumors get started. His sponsor sent him a box of the clothes they make. You think that's unusual? It would've been unusual if he had sent him big, baggy pants or something. But he sent him Fallen product. And the rumor mill takes that and goes crazy? Worse than girls, I tell ya. Unbelievable.

Let's see the Carnie interview or a pic of the bandana already. Oh wait, no one can seem to find it. Hmmm....


why do you even ask if you wont accept the possibilty that the things people tell you might be true?
cole said in his interview that jamie definitely pushed into a certain direction as far as appearance goes. how is that a rumor?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: ciaran on January 24, 2007, 05:20:01 AM
I agree with Vegan, I think the main differences between the Zero of Now and the Zero of Misled Youth is that although the talent of the team is undeniable, realistically they are stylistically copying their predecessors from the Misled Youth days (with the exception of Rattray). 

Rattray still stands out like a sore thumb on Zero.  Him going there was the last move I would have expected at the time.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: j....soy..... on January 24, 2007, 07:55:20 AM
you forgot keegan....
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: heshy. on January 24, 2007, 09:28:34 AM
zero are boring as, they need different types of skaters. not just people who just skate rails and stairs.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: lophatrophazoa on January 24, 2007, 10:44:17 AM
rattray and kegan sauder?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: CFDL on January 24, 2007, 11:15:54 AM
You see, this is how rumors get started. His sponsor sent him a box of the clothes they make. You think that's unusual? It would've been unusual if he had sent him big, baggy pants or something. But he sent him Fallen product. And the rumor mill takes that and goes crazy? Worse than girls, I tell ya. Unbelievable.

Let's see the Carnie interview or a pic of the bandana already. Oh wait, no one can seem to find it. Hmmm....


http://smalltimeskates.com/sts/20-qs-dave-carnie-interview/
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i also know a certain company owner who’s company name is the answer to the equation 666-666 who likes all kinds of weird photoshop in his photos. i only know of one incident, but i assume he does it all the time. like he has his little hankies and shit photoshopped into his hands and back pockets and shit. there’s nothing unethical about that kind of peacock behavior, but it’s a little gay.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Mullet Man on January 24, 2007, 04:31:44 PM
"i only know of one incident, but i assume he does it all the time..."

While I do appreciate you finding the article... I dunno, man. It still sounds like something was blown out of perportion. And as much as I loved Big Brother, it's not like I ever looked at what those guys said as bible truth. I wouldn't recommend that. But at least I know where you guys got that shit from.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: DrNewton on January 24, 2007, 04:34:28 PM
surely carnie just made it up
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Mullet Man on January 24, 2007, 04:43:06 PM
Don't you see how after it goes through the Slap Rumor Mill, it turns into music, hair, and clothes all of a sudden? That's how exaggeration and rumors work. Teenage girls are brilliant at it. Skateboarders are catching up to them though.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Maple Syrup on January 24, 2007, 05:26:49 PM
zero are boring as, they need different types of skaters. not just people who just skate rails and stairs.

thats the zero image, otherwise itd just be another element with a ton of random pros
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: grimcity on January 24, 2007, 06:33:09 PM
Don't you see how after it goes through the Slap Rumor Mill, it turns into music, hair, and clothes all of a sudden? That's how exaggeration and rumors work. Teenage girls are brilliant at it. Skateboarders are catching up to them though.
I did the Carnie interview, and one thing that needs to be pointed out is that Dave didn't really expect that interview to be seen by as many people as it was. Also, the interview was done via email, it wasn't an off-the-cuff remark that he just wrote in haste... the interview itself took several months to complete. Dave makes it pretty clear when he's bullshitting and when he's not... he's not bullshitting about Thomas and his Photoshop practices. I'm not adding to the debate here, I'm just saying that I believe Dave at his word.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: doitswitch on January 24, 2007, 08:07:45 PM
http://www.skateboarding.com/skate/magazine/article/0,23271,464849,00.html Full Ryan Smith birthday story. If he didn't land it JT would appear to be a tyrant, but since he did it puts him in some sort of hero status, like one of those incredibly moving tales of fathers who push their kids and al sorts f oth r crap an stf lke m do asdo kd..
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: alexx on January 25, 2007, 02:55:01 AM
reading that article made me so pissed off, jt's such a manipulative boss.

zero is a joke of a skateboarding company now.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: metsuri on January 25, 2007, 04:00:54 AM
I didn't think there was anything special with that article. That's just Jamie motivating his riders to do stuff he knows they're capable of. None of the guys interviewed seemed to mind that.

Those are his companies, that's his approach. The guys who haven't liked that have left. Besides Greco, where are all the ex-Zero riders?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: grimcity on January 25, 2007, 04:43:40 AM
Those are his companies, that's his approach. The guys who haven't liked that have left. Besides Greco, where are all the ex-Zero riders?
Buried in a crawlspace under Jamie's house.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: fuckingvegan on January 25, 2007, 06:42:24 AM
I didn't think there was anything special with that article. That's just Jamie motivating his riders to do stuff he knows they're capable of. None of the guys interviewed seemed to mind that.

Those are his companies, that's his approach. The guys who haven't liked that have left. Besides Greco, where are all the ex-Zero riders?

Aaron Harrison is pro for ATM
Matt Mumford is pro for Black Label
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: L.S on January 25, 2007, 07:34:39 AM
I didn't think there was anything special with that article. That's just Jamie motivating his riders to do stuff he knows they're capable of. None of the guys interviewed seemed to mind that.

Those are his companies, that's his approach. The guys who haven't liked that have left. Besides Greco, where are all the ex-Zero riders?

Aaron Harrison is pro for ATM
Matt Mumford is pro for Black Label


ellington pro for baker
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: golgo13 on January 25, 2007, 07:38:07 AM
greco too.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: DrNewton on January 25, 2007, 11:42:08 AM
Those are his companies, that's his approach. The guys who haven't liked that have left. Besides Greco, where are all the ex-Zero riders?
Buried in a crawlspace under Jamie's house.

Wouldn't doubt it. Wade Burkitt and Scott Copalman completely disappeared.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: betterlucknexttimefewel on August 26, 2011, 11:26:18 AM
Jamie Thomas is a fucking twat. He snubbed me face-to-face. Luckily, I've never bought any of his products. As much as anyone may want to defend him, the fact is that I don't owe him anything. His celebrity is worth what people make of it and it apparently is meaningless if he entitles himself to everything. His celebrity is worthless. The "HankerChief" is a more appropriate name for how he works in his Fascism.
Baker seems a lot more like a Communist company. Communism is waaay more productive than Fascism. Look up WW2. Russia was on the winning side then and Cuba is still Communist. Not a single country is Fascist anymore. There is a relationship w/ government and companies because it makes people boss around people.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on August 26, 2011, 11:27:52 AM
someone didnt get an autograph at a demo.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Gil on August 26, 2011, 11:38:34 AM
Jamie Thomas is a fucking twat. He snubbed me face-to-face. Luckily, I've never bought any of his products. As much as anyone may want to defend him, the fact is that I don't owe him anything. His celebrity is worth what people make of it and it apparently is meaningless if he entitles himself to everything. His celebrity is worthless. The "HankerChief" is a more appropriate name for how he works in his Fascism.
Baker seems a lot more like a Communist company. Communism is waaay more productive than Fascism. Look up WW2. Russia was on the winning side then and Cuba is still Communist. Not a single country is Fascist anymore. There is a relationship w/ government and companies because it makes people boss around people.
What a first post! Letting the hate flow... and resurrecting a 4 and a half year old thread. Boo-yah!
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Skatebot on August 26, 2011, 11:39:43 AM
Brian Anderson told me he doesn't like him because he acts like a jock.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: chockfullofthat on August 26, 2011, 11:44:37 AM
Jamie Thomas is a fucking twat. He snubbed me face-to-face. Luckily, I've never bought any of his products. As much as anyone may want to defend him, the fact is that I don't owe him anything. His celebrity is worth what people make of it and it apparently is meaningless if he entitles himself to everything. His celebrity is worthless. The "HankerChief" is a more appropriate name for how he works in his Fascism.
Baker seems a lot more like a Communist company. Communism is waaay more productive than Fascism. Look up WW2. Russia was on the winning side then and Cuba is still Communist. Not a single country is Fascist anymore. There is a relationship w/ government and companies because it makes people boss around people.

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Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: phillipjayfry on August 26, 2011, 12:37:01 PM
I think I heard somewhere that when Tim Williams was flow for Zero, Jamie Thomas didn't want to turn him am just because he dressed like an emo.
This Tim Williams btw:
TIM WILLIAMS - DO LESS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_nNwW8oD6Q#)
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: betterlucknexttimefewel on August 26, 2011, 12:52:31 PM
someone didnt get an autograph at a demo.

that's kind of what happened. i asked him one-on-one to autograph something of mine @ SPoT right after he signed a shirt for a kid. he talked down to me right afterwards saying how there are posters and other shit for them to sign. so i waited in line like a little kid. he started yelling at other people for fucking pizza when i got to him. he didn't even sign the fucking poster he talked to me about. he's just a genuine jerk. i emailed berra about it @ the berrics. i don't know if it'll ever get put on emotw. i saw this forum and thought it was worth it considering how insightful this has been.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: jimi420 on August 26, 2011, 12:54:42 PM
I think I heard somewhere that when Tim Williams was flow for Zero, Jamie Thomas didn't want to turn him am just because he dressed like an emo.
This Tim Williams btw:
TIM WILLIAMS - DO LESS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_nNwW8oD6Q#)
How ironic that he (supposedly,) wouldn't turn him Am because he dressed "emo," when Zero is probably an Emo's favorite brand.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on August 26, 2011, 12:57:35 PM
someone didnt get an autograph at a demo.

that's kind of what happened. i asked him one-on-one to autograph something of mine @ SPoT right after he signed a shirt for a kid. he talked down to me right afterwards saying how there are posters and other shit for them to sign. so i waited in line like a little kid. he started yelling at other people for fucking pizza when i got to him. he didn't even sign the fucking poster he talked to me about. he's just a genuine jerk. i emailed berra about it @ the berrics. i don't know if it'll ever get put on emotw. i saw this forum and thought it was worth it considering how insightful this has been.

berra will help you.

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Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: busey on August 26, 2011, 01:00:11 PM
I think I heard somewhere that when Tim Williams was flow for Zero, Jamie Thomas didn't want to turn him am just because he dressed like an emo.
This Tim Williams btw:
TIM WILLIAMS - DO LESS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_nNwW8oD6Q#)
hahaha, that guy doesn't dress like an emo. this is an emo
(http://pixelwelders.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/emo-kid_350.jpg)

and what an emo!
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: betterlucknexttimefewel on August 26, 2011, 01:04:32 PM
Jamie Thomas is a fucking twat. He snubbed me face-to-face. Luckily, I've never bought any of his products. As much as anyone may want to defend him, the fact is that I don't owe him anything. His celebrity is worth what people make of it and it apparently is meaningless if he entitles himself to everything. His celebrity is worthless. The "HankerChief" is a more appropriate name for how he works in his Fascism.
Baker seems a lot more like a Communist company. Communism is waaay more productive than Fascism. Look up WW2. Russia was on the winning side then and Cuba is still Communist. Not a single country is Fascist anymore. There is a relationship w/ government and companies because it makes people boss around people.

(http://files.sharenator.com/Your_logic_is_flawless_I_tip_my_hat_to_you_sir_RE_6DIG6_Question_of_The_Week_5-s240x360-138603.jpg)

i tip my hat to your second photo. that is more accurate of his demographics (the third girl from the left esp.). that's some steve rocco shit. run that as an ad.


Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: betterlucknexttimefewel on August 26, 2011, 01:07:47 PM
someone didnt get an autograph at a demo.

that's kind of what happened. i asked him one-on-one to autograph something of mine @ SPoT right after he signed a shirt for a kid. he talked down to me right afterwards saying how there are posters and other shit for them to sign. so i waited in line like a little kid. he started yelling at other people for fucking pizza when i got to him. he didn't even sign the fucking poster he talked to me about. he's just a genuine jerk. i emailed berra about it @ the berrics. i don't know if it'll ever get put on emotw. i saw this forum and thought it was worth it considering how insightful this has been.

berra will help you.

(http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/screenshots/156880d1289956130-funny-strange-random-pics-1.jpg)

wait until noone helps you with a problem. i'm making his ethics crystal clear.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on August 26, 2011, 01:14:22 PM
someone didnt get an autograph at a demo.

that's kind of what happened. i asked him one-on-one to autograph something of mine @ SPoT right after he signed a shirt for a kid. he talked down to me right afterwards saying how there are posters and other shit for them to sign. so i waited in line like a little kid. he started yelling at other people for fucking pizza when i got to him. he didn't even sign the fucking poster he talked to me about. he's just a genuine jerk. i emailed berra about it @ the berrics. i don't know if it'll ever get put on emotw. i saw this forum and thought it was worth it considering how insightful this has been.

berra will help you.

(http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/screenshots/156880d1289956130-funny-strange-random-pics-1.jpg)

wait until noone helps you with a problem. i'm making his ethics crystal clear.

in the end, there will always be berra to help me out.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: earlygrab on August 26, 2011, 01:18:29 PM
I won't bother reading this thread, but I would like to contribute that I skated with jamie for a few weeks before he went to cali, and he once said something to me so polite and giving, that to this day, I still remind myself of that moment to inspire myself to be a better person.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: papasmurfsdog on August 26, 2011, 01:23:44 PM
Well, he so kindly gave another poster some autographs that you can purchase right here at your own convenience.

http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=54860.0 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=54860.0)
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Hatechild on August 26, 2011, 01:33:02 PM
Wonder if the Chief is going to try to take this thread down?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Cthulhu! on August 26, 2011, 01:57:33 PM
Remember that one video with some guy pretending to be Jamie in a directors chair? Then someone got him the wrong drink and he got mad? Yeah somebody should find that.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: voltronarm on August 26, 2011, 02:12:05 PM
someone didnt get an autograph at a demo.

that's kind of what happened. i asked him one-on-one to autograph something of mine @ SPoT right after he signed a shirt for a kid. he talked down to me right afterwards saying how there are posters and other shit for them to sign. so i waited in line like a little kid. he started yelling at other people for fucking pizza when i got to him. he didn't even sign the fucking poster he talked to me about. he's just a genuine jerk. i emailed berra about it @ the berrics. i don't know if it'll ever get put on emotw. i saw this forum and thought it was worth it considering how insightful this has been.

L. Ron Hubbard will help you.

(http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/screenshots/156880d1289956130-funny-strange-random-pics-1.jpg)
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: BraveUlysses on August 26, 2011, 02:21:53 PM
I think I heard somewhere that when Tim Williams was flow for Zero, Jamie Thomas didn't want to turn him am just because he dressed like an emo.
This Tim Williams btw:
TIM WILLIAMS - DO LESS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_nNwW8oD6Q#)
How ironic that he (supposedly,) wouldn't turn him Am because he dressed "emo," when Zero is probably an Emo's favorite brand.
Maybe Jamie resents this fact which is why he didn't want to put him on.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Man Without A Plan on August 26, 2011, 05:14:06 PM
I remember I went to the Extremely Sorry World Premiere, around this time 2 years ago. I met Jamie and asked him for a picture with me and my friends. I forgot who took the picture, but it felt kinda weird because I got a vibe that Jamie didn't really want to be there. Like, he didn't want to have anything to do with this, you know what I mean? I was 19 at the time, could've been just me. I don't have the picture, my friend does. I'll ask him to e-mail me a copy of it and I'll put it up on here if you guys want to see it.


Edit - I'm not hating on Jamie, I'm just telling a time of when I met him.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: earlygrab on August 26, 2011, 05:18:17 PM
it's a crazy idea, but ya, maybe he didn't want to be there. Not sure how you could hold that against somebody, then again I'm not an over sensative tweenster.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: tom on August 26, 2011, 05:21:18 PM
Remember that one video with some guy pretending to be Jamie in a directors chair? Then someone got him the wrong drink and he got mad? Yeah somebody should find that.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5718431276719679846# (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5718431276719679846#)
5:23
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Man Without A Plan on August 26, 2011, 05:25:59 PM
it's a crazy idea, but ya, maybe he didn't want to be there. Not sure how you could hold that against somebody, then again I'm not an over sensative tweenster.

I'm not holding anything against anyone. I don't know where you got that from.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: DevMo! on August 26, 2011, 06:01:29 PM
Jamie Thomas is a fucking twat. He snubbed me face-to-face. Luckily, I've never bought any of his products. As much as anyone may want to defend him, the fact is that I don't owe him anything. His celebrity is worth what people make of it and it apparently is meaningless if he entitles himself to everything. His celebrity is worthless. The "HankerChief" is a more appropriate name for how he works in his Fascism.
Baker seems a lot more like a Communist company. Communism is waaay more productive than Fascism. Look up WW2. Russia was on the winning side then and Cuba is still Communist. Not a single country is Fascist anymore. There is a relationship w/ government and companies because it makes people boss around people.

(http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s325/omglol69/Good-good-let-the-butthurt-flow-through-you-1.jpg)
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: smokecrack on August 26, 2011, 06:53:50 PM
I think I heard somewhere that when Tim Williams was flow for Zero, Jamie Thomas didn't want to turn him am just because he dressed like an emo.
This Tim Williams btw:
TIM WILLIAMS - DO LESS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_nNwW8oD6Q#)

Tim: Permission to rip, Sir

The Chief: Permission not granted, soldier
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: dipsteeze on August 26, 2011, 07:25:06 PM
I have way more respect for jamie thomas after watching the kalis epicly laterd, your all a bunch of typers
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: DeerTay on August 26, 2011, 07:25:55 PM
I heard he actually curses like a sailor, but not on camera because of god and stuff.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: The Twilight Zone on August 26, 2011, 07:39:22 PM
hmmm. The time I met Jamie Thomas was at a signing right before a demo. I asked him to sign an eastern boarder shirt i got just for this.


He tells me its a sick shirt, signs mine, then buys the exact same one and shakes my hand for showing him.


Your alpha as fuck jamie, alpha as fuck.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Tarela on August 26, 2011, 07:42:43 PM
I have way more respect for jamie thomas after watching the kalis epicly laterd, your all a bunch of typers

Agreed after that EL i could never hate on the chief, cause im a huge Kalis fan....I've also heard stories of him taking dudes to spots an bein like just do it...i don't see anything wrong with that, i've had older dudes do that to me when i was a kid it made me a better skater imo, if anything its a sign that there's some potential to be seen in you that your not tapping into...
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: asakusa75 on August 26, 2011, 07:48:53 PM
This thread is hilarious. Some amazing bullshit and whining in here...its Jamie fucking Thomas guys. Computers off everybody, time to actually go skateboarding.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: anblue on August 26, 2011, 08:09:21 PM
fucking trolls if everyone just ignores them theyll die off
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: L33Tg33k on August 26, 2011, 09:23:13 PM
I heard he read Mein Kampf and The Turner Diaries like a bunch of times.




The Tim Williams story is actually true, though.  That's not to say it isn't true that those are JT's favorite books.  I hear Triumph of the Will and Birth of Nation are his favorite films.  He also likes Gay Niggers from Outer Space a lot.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: GarglesCmen on August 26, 2011, 09:32:01 PM
Jamie Thoms is rock hard in the penial region
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: JohnStamos on August 26, 2011, 10:52:22 PM
i heard from a reliable source that while filming for the mystery video, that gilbert crockett had to do a kickflip back tail on this rail or else basically he wouldnt have a part in the video, and he had never done that trick on a rail before, but gilbert being the beast he is did the kickflip back tail and it was in his part in that video
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: LemonParty on August 26, 2011, 10:58:07 PM
 best thread ressurection of history. love the photoshopping hankerchiefs into his photos. LOL
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: ihitmyheadalot on August 27, 2011, 07:21:20 AM
not that my opinion counts for much but ive met jamie thomas on two seperate tours that came through town.. and maybe talked to him for a total of a half an hour to 45 minutes combined time as a result.

I got a positive vibe a smile and was stoked i got the chance to talk..   I also saw him playing skate with 12 year olds and missing kickflips and pop shuvs so kids could be stoked that they got a letter on jamie thomas.  so i dunno i'd say that was about as rad as it gets.

At the end of the day hes got a brands to build.. you dont like how hes does .. don't buy them(honestly i dont) or build your own.
When i go skate with my crew they push me to grow a set and do stuff i might not do if it wasnt for them telling me not to be a pussy.
And opinions are like noses.. everyone has one.

So.. for what its worth im gonna stick to what i know.  He's an ok dude.. cause i have no proof other then what i see people bitching about on twitter or the slap forums and we all know how often THAT stuff turns out to be true..

kook away.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Stoop Kid on August 27, 2011, 09:29:13 AM
Jamie is rad. Stop crying because you didnt get an autograph.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: grimcity on August 27, 2011, 09:32:02 AM
I've given Jamie my fair share of shit, and I though disagree with him on a ton of things, we've met a couple times and bullshitted plenty- he's a good guy. I give him extra credit for eventually learning how this place is, getting to know some of the cats in here, and becoming a Pal.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: trueamerican on August 27, 2011, 10:40:10 AM

YOU fuckin kids. FOR REAL. or grown men whatever


Imagine people coming up to you all the time, SIGN THIS SIGN THAT. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE COME ONE... and if you say NO to one kid your a dickhead... fuck that shit

I mean i can get annoyed with kids asking questions in the skatepark, and im not famous... imagine having kids EVERYWHERE YOU GO come up to you.... i dont think you guys even understand that shit.

Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: skate_bored on August 27, 2011, 11:46:58 AM
didnt eminem already address this?

Eminem - The Way I Am (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQvteoFiMlg#ws)
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: iKobrakai on August 27, 2011, 01:11:22 PM
TAM TAM TAM:

http://www.thrashermagazine.com/component/option,com_hwdvideoshare/Itemid,90/lang,en/task,viewvideo/video_id,1262/ (http://www.thrashermagazine.com/component/option,com_hwdvideoshare/Itemid,90/lang,en/task,viewvideo/video_id,1262/)
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: I SUCK! on August 27, 2011, 03:36:59 PM
Jamie Thomas is a fucking twat. He snubbed me face-to-face. Luckily, I've never bought any of his products. As much as anyone may want to defend him, the fact is that I don't owe him anything. His celebrity is worth what people make of it and it apparently is meaningless if he entitles himself to everything. His celebrity is worthless. The "HankerChief" is a more appropriate name for how he works in his Fascism.
Baker seems a lot more like a Communist company. Communism is waaay more productive than Fascism. Look up WW2. Russia was on the winning side then and Cuba is still Communist. Not a single country is Fascist anymore. There is a relationship w/ government and companies because it makes people boss around people.

I don't feel anyone owes me anything and I try to not come across that way.

I'm human and just like anyone else I have good moments and bad moments, but I try really hard to make time for people no matter what the circumstances. I'm sorry if you feel I snubbed you, in order to know how or why it happened, it would help if you'd share some details.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: I SUCK! on August 27, 2011, 03:43:18 PM
Brian Anderson told me he doesn't like him because he acts like a jock.

...and I thought BA was a good friend?
haha
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: 1978 on August 27, 2011, 03:45:48 PM
i once asked for jamies autograph and he punched me in the dick and called me ugly betty.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: baconeggandcheese on August 27, 2011, 03:48:16 PM
not that my opinion counts for much but ive met jamie thomas on two seperate tours that came through town.. and maybe talked to him for a total of a half an hour to 45 minutes combined time as a result.

I got a positive vibe a smile and was stoked i got the chance to talk..   I also saw him playing skate with 12 year olds and missing kickflips and pop shuvs so kids could be stoked that they got a letter on jamie thomas.  so i dunno i'd say that was about as rad as it gets.

At the end of the day hes got a brands to build.. you dont like how hes does .. don't buy them(honestly i dont) or build your own.
When i go skate with my crew they push me to grow a set and do stuff i might not do if it wasnt for them telling me not to be a pussy.
And opinions are like noses.. everyone has one.

So.. for what its worth im gonna stick to what i know.  He's an ok dude.. cause i have no proof other then what i see people bitching about on twitter or the slap forums and we all know how often THAT stuff turns out to be true..

kook away.


hahahah damn.

Also, BA you gotta make an account now.  Do it!  Then you can either tell Jamie he is a jock or we can all watch you guys hug it out!
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: I SUCK! on August 27, 2011, 03:49:13 PM
someone didnt get an autograph at a demo.

that's kind of what happened. i asked him one-on-one to autograph something of mine @ SPoT right after he signed a shirt for a kid. he talked down to me right afterwards saying how there are posters and other shit for them to sign. so i waited in line like a little kid. he started yelling at other people for fucking pizza when i got to him. he didn't even sign the fucking poster he talked to me about. he's just a genuine jerk. i emailed berra about it @ the berrics. i don't know if it'll ever get put on emotw. i saw this forum and thought it was worth it considering how insightful this has been.

Did this was a total accident and was not meant to snub you...
Whenever you're at a signing everyone wants you to sign their stuff first, so they don't have to wait in line. If you do that for everyone then you f everyone up, so you sign a few to not be a jerk and you say, we're gonna do a full signing in a few minutes.

I apologize I missed your poster straight up, the teams were hungry and I wear a lot of hats.
I'm not apologizing cause I want you to buy our shit, I'm apologizing cause I left you hanging and it wasn't intentional.

You can hold the grudge, but I don't try to be a dick; peace
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: I SUCK! on August 27, 2011, 03:52:57 PM
I remember I went to the Extremely Sorry World Premiere, around this time 2 years ago. I met Jamie and asked him for a picture with me and my friends. I forgot who took the picture, but it felt kinda weird because I got a vibe that Jamie didn't really want to be there. Like, he didn't want to have anything to do with this, you know what I mean? I was 19 at the time, could've been just me. I don't have the picture, my friend does. I'll ask him to e-mail me a copy of it and I'll put it up on here if you guys want to see it.


Edit - I'm not hating on Jamie, I'm just telling a time of when I met him.

I found out Gilbert Crockett was quitting Mystery that night, I didn't want to be anywhere.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: I SUCK! on August 27, 2011, 03:54:21 PM
I think I heard somewhere that when Tim Williams was flow for Zero, Jamie Thomas didn't want to turn him am just because he dressed like an emo.
This Tim Williams btw:
TIM WILLIAMS - DO LESS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_nNwW8oD6Q#)

SOmething's wrong with this story; I didn't ever know Tim Williams was flow for Zero...
I do think he's a good skater tho, he killed one of our crossroads contests
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: I SUCK! on August 27, 2011, 03:57:28 PM
i heard from a reliable source that while filming for the mystery video, that gilbert crockett had to do a kickflip back tail on this rail or else basically he wouldnt have a part in the video, and he had never done that trick on a rail before, but gilbert being the beast he is did the kickflip back tail and it was in his part in that video

absolutely made up, but good nonetheless...
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: happenstance on August 27, 2011, 03:58:28 PM
The thing I think a lot of you need to keep in mind is that you might be meeting these people at a bad moment. Everyone seems to base a pros personality in total based on one brief meeting. How many times have you heard one person say pro x is the biggest dick while another says he is the nicest guy in the world.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: I SUCK! on August 27, 2011, 04:04:53 PM
PS. I Have never photoshopped a handkerchief into anyone's pocket. Dave Carnie is tripping!!
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: ROCKxADIO420 on August 27, 2011, 04:19:22 PM
i once asked for jamies autograph and he punched me in the dick and called me ugly betty.
^^this happened to me too, except he called me Quasimodo.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Simon Sandleshit on August 27, 2011, 04:23:23 PM
JT came in here and shut em down


he goes hard in the paint.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Randozzi on August 27, 2011, 04:58:26 PM
someone wiser than me once said, you can only judge a man after meaningfully talking with him three times."
basing any sort of judgment off of a demo meeting is immature.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: hime on August 27, 2011, 05:05:16 PM
I met JT at the last Wallenberg contest and he was totally cool. I remember saying something like 'can I bug you for a picture?'. He replied 'of course dude, my pleasure.' Couldnt have been any nicer about it. To me, the fascism bullshit is hearsay. Him being cool to me is fact.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: DirtCity on August 27, 2011, 05:53:56 PM
I met Jamie at a Zero/DGK demo a couple weeks ago, and I got nothing but positive vibes from the guy. As soon as he got to the park he asked to play my buddy in SKATE, just to warm up and whatnot. And then when the lame DJ's that CCS hired to be there were telling everyone to clear the park for the demo, JT didn't care that we skated right along side everyone. At the end of the demo, it started raining and I real quick asked him to autograph one of my first skateboards, which happened to be one of the JT Smith grind boards, and he replied with something like "of course man, my pleasure" and stood outside the van, in the pouring rain, trying to sign the waterlogged board, using two different markers and tried wiping down the board, but unfortunately it was too wet to sign. But i gotta give it to him for the effort. Seemed like a rad dude, still wish I wouldve been able to have that board signed for my apartment. The Chief's always been one of my favorites.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Tyroneshoelaces on August 27, 2011, 06:18:33 PM
Jamie is rad. Stop crying because you didnt get an autograph.
JT came in here and shut em down


he goes hard in the paint.


the chief is the best.  anyone hating can suck a dee
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: blake guzman on August 27, 2011, 06:34:24 PM
A couple years ago, Jamie stopped by a little bar in SLC to watch the premier of a local video. He was giving off good vibes all night, and just seemed stoked to be there, despite that there were only 30 people. I thought it was cool that he came to watch a relatively shitty video and was nice to everyone who went up to introduce themselves.   
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: sprayTAN101 on August 27, 2011, 06:43:41 PM
what is up with this thread? didnt most of these accusations got settled when isuck first joined the boards?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: few123456789 on August 28, 2011, 03:25:15 AM
i've never met jamie but this thread is an embarrassment to skaters.  don't knock one of the guys who has made it from the ground up and didn't sell out.  that's all most people complain about here and now you're knocking a guy who did it.  unreal.

haters going to hate.  peace jamie. 
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on August 28, 2011, 03:36:55 AM
this thread is amazing.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: loose girlfriends on August 28, 2011, 03:41:42 AM
Not sure if it's been said before, sorry if it has.

Thanks Jamie for getting Chris out of those ugly XXL yellow enjoi tee's.

Kinda wish the photoshop thing was true , that made me laugh. But either way Jamie will always be the shit.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Grubby Mits on August 28, 2011, 03:55:53 AM
Hey Jamie, that BS 5.0 you did down the long hubba at Truro Plaza in last months Sidewalk magazine was fucking rad, that thing is mean
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: DeerTay on August 28, 2011, 07:44:39 AM
Jaime, why wouldn't you signed Dan Watson's piece of plastic? Total dick move right thur.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: darrin649 on August 28, 2011, 07:58:31 AM
PS. I Have never photoshopped a handkerchief into anyone's pocket. Dave Carnie is tripping!!

Hey Jamie,

First I will say I totally back you, Black Box and all your practices.  Clearly they're effective in producing some of the most consistent, quality skateboarding and products in the industry and the majority of the hating in this thread is just that.

While you're here, perhaps you can address an age old question:

In the Baker2G Video, there are two (2) two minute sections that are blacked out quoting something to the effect of "Sorry!  Skateboarding has become so serious that the following two minutes have been censored."

One of these sections was rumored, and I believe quoted by someone in the Warner crew. in Transworld or the like, to be your sponsor me tape and included footage of you ollieing the EMB "Gonz Gap" in the nude and some other old school EMB footage of you. 

The other was prank calls to Chad Fernandez.

Both parties refused permission included in the video.

What are your thoughts on this? 

Thanks for your time!
 
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: sufodiv on August 28, 2011, 08:27:59 AM
In that new cold war page, tom karangelov gets interviewed and he said that he always filming in hunington beach with his friends so it seems like he doesn't even skate with the team that often. he also said all the footage he uses for his part depends on what the chief likes
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Schmaltz on August 28, 2011, 10:09:53 AM
Jamie Thomas used to date my sister. He was always really cool until he called my dad a faggot because he ate activa yogurt.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: bandini on August 28, 2011, 11:19:16 AM
Can we please get back to doing something sensible now, like hating on Berra?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Joust Ostrich on August 28, 2011, 12:26:37 PM
JT sat right behind me at the One Step Beyond premiere.  He did not throw popcorn.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: I SUCK! on August 28, 2011, 12:40:54 PM
In that new cold war page, tom karangelov gets interviewed and he said that he always filming in hunington beach with his friends so it seems like he doesn't even skate with the team that often. he also said all the footage he uses for his part depends on what the chief likes

...this is a weird post man; it's like you're trying to add fuel to the fire, but you got nothing, so you're tryin to fabricate some crap.
we skate w Tom all the time, dude's so tight. Like any video, the editors and the riders picks what's used; I am in fact one of the editors for the company that I run. weird, huh?!
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: TheDraught on August 28, 2011, 12:56:12 PM
I remember right before the finals of one of the first Battle at the Berrics-editions, JT posted the winner here.

That was SO MEAN!!!!
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Sold Out on August 28, 2011, 01:38:17 PM
This thread is amazing! Just sat here and read the entire thing!
  On the note of Cole being forced into wearing clothes that Jamie wants that is obviously a total joke. Cole now has his own clothing company not through blackbox that going to be making all the same weird gear that Cole wears all the time. Cole even addressed it in an interview that he wanted to dress like that. People change as they grow up.
 As far as the Ryan Smith story Smith even says that he is hyped that JT made him go for it. Also apparently he was claiming and they drove a long ass way for him to go do it only for him to get there and change his mind. Smith also says its different when JT talks you into trying a trick because he skates with you all the time and knows your potential and how you skate. I absolutely hate it when you go out to a spot and your stressing and some random photographer or skate dude you just met is all like ''You totally got it man! Just go for it...'' trying to talk you into doing shit when they have no clue if you are going to just kill yourself. But its different when its a friend and they know your potential and are trying to push you.
  Dave Carnie is constantly joking around so you cant really take anything he says seriously. Especially with an email interview! Sarcasm is pretty hard to detect via email...
 As far as his personality I have a few friends that work for/with him and distributers for Zero and everyone always speaks very highly of him.

Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Magic Pizza on August 28, 2011, 01:50:59 PM
^^ Well yes but these conclusions actually require some rational thinking skills, and this is a highly unskilled workforce.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Gil on August 28, 2011, 02:15:26 PM
It's interesting to see the trend in all threads like this. A bunch of people talk shit on the dude who has a slap account (seems like it's usually The Chief). Then dude comes in, quickly denies the crazy rumors, and sets things straight. All of a sudden everybody loves him, and there's a couple pages of dick riding before the thread dies. Flip-floppers man...
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on August 28, 2011, 02:19:39 PM
It's interesting to see the trend in all threads like this. A bunch of people talk shit on the dude who has a slap account (seems like it's usually The Chief). Then dude comes in, quickly denies the crazy rumors, and sets things straight. All of a sudden everybody loves him, and there's a couple pages of dick riding before the thread dies. Flip-floppers man...

chaz should do something like this. oh no, wait, his new part will shut the haters up anyway.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: oyolar on August 28, 2011, 05:25:51 PM
This thread is amazing! Just sat here and read the entire thing!
  On the note of Cole being forced into wearing clothes that Jamie wants that is obviously a total joke. Cole now has his own clothing company not through blackbox that going to be making all the same weird gear that Cole wears all the time. Cole even addressed it in an interview that he wanted to dress like that. People change as they grow up.


I think he even said something to the effect that he was getting clothes from the thrift store when he was making his sponsor-me videos because that was all he could afford.


It's interesting to see the trend in all threads like this. A bunch of people talk shit on the dude who has a slap account (seems like it's usually The Chief). Then dude comes in, quickly denies the crazy rumors, and sets things straight. All of a sudden everybody loves him, and there's a couple pages of dick riding before the thread dies. Flip-floppers man...

chaz should do something like this. oh no, wait, his new part will shut the haters up anyway.

It worked for Sheckler didn't it?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: LemonParty on August 28, 2011, 05:47:26 PM
 i like how this thread is like 7 pages of people shitting on jamie thomas until he posts in the thread calling people out. from that post on its all people saying how much they are in love with jamie thomas.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: ice nine on August 28, 2011, 06:17:42 PM
the first however many pages are over 3 years old though. when jamie didnt post here/people didnt suck up quite as much as now.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: ihitmyheadalot on August 28, 2011, 07:55:28 PM
Why does it have to be sucking up.  Why can't it just be a random post on slap saying STFU i think dudes ok..  I certainly know  I've met my share of industry dudes and of those guys i've met a few who in my opinion were total douchbags...  but at the end of the day i honestly believe i'm always going to make base my opinion of someone on my own observations rather then nonsense i read on the internet/rumors i hear.
the fact that jamie tends to drop by to set things straight.. check in.. or just clear the air when things arent ok kind of just says something about character.

In 25 years of skateboarding I've seroiusly bought one blackbox product.  I didnt like it.. so its not like i have a reason to kiss his ass..

Theres a little part of me that there's a gang mentality on any message board where 70% of the population is just going to do whatever the majority is doing cause its the "in" slap thing to do at the moment..   
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: I SUCK! on August 28, 2011, 08:57:34 PM
It's interesting to see the trend in all threads like this. A bunch of people talk shit on the dude who has a slap account (seems like it's usually The Chief). Then dude comes in, quickly denies the crazy rumors, and sets things straight. All of a sudden everybody loves him, and there's a couple pages of dick riding before the thread dies. Flip-floppers man...

koo_
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: I SUCK! on August 28, 2011, 09:00:28 PM
FTW
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Gil on August 28, 2011, 09:29:58 PM
It's interesting to see the trend in all threads like this. A bunch of people talk shit on the dude who has a slap account (seems like it's usually The Chief). Then dude comes in, quickly denies the crazy rumors, and sets things straight. All of a sudden everybody loves him, and there's a couple pages of dick riding before the thread dies. Flip-floppers man...

koo_
Ha. Does that _ represent a k?
So cool that JT called me a kook... but why would you say that to me when I wasn't talking shit on you or anything? Just said it's funny to watch people follow the pack on here.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: achis123 on August 28, 2011, 10:39:48 PM
It's interesting to see the trend in all threads like this. A bunch of people talk shit on the dude who has a slap account (seems like it's usually The Chief). Then dude comes in, quickly denies the crazy rumors, and sets things straight. All of a sudden everybody loves him, and there's a couple pages of dick riding before the thread dies. Flip-floppers man...

koo_
Ha. Does that _ represent a k?
So cool that JT called me a kook... but why would you say that to me when I wasn't talking shit on you or anything? Just said it's funny to watch people follow the pack on here.
or "_" could be a l witch would then spell kool..who knows (JT does..)
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: hekkahyphy on August 28, 2011, 11:43:15 PM
One time jt said his team wasn't in king of the road one yr cause they got so tired of winning them. I bought my first zero deck after that.
On another note insights pity the cool pants are so comfortable
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Chipper on August 29, 2011, 12:44:32 AM
Remember that big foot hoax a few years ago that was all over the news? I heard Jamie Thomas was behind that.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: friendly dave on August 29, 2011, 02:23:55 AM
Do you still have your grill from Chomp? Also, sig'd.

FTW
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Molusk One on August 29, 2011, 02:29:26 AM
It's interesting to see the trend in all threads like this. A bunch of people talk shit on the dude who has a slap account (seems like it's usually The Chief). Then dude comes in, quickly denies the crazy rumors, and sets things straight. All of a sudden everybody loves him, and there's a couple pages of dick riding before the thread dies. Flip-floppers man...

koo_

So he's a kook for bringing up a perfectly valid point?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: happenstance on August 29, 2011, 03:49:23 AM
JT kidnapped the Limbergh baby.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: grimcity on August 29, 2011, 05:48:35 AM
It's interesting to see the trend in all threads like this. A bunch of people talk shit on the dude who has a slap account (seems like it's usually The Chief). Then dude comes in, quickly denies the crazy rumors, and sets things straight. All of a sudden everybody loves him, and there's a couple pages of dick riding before the thread dies. Flip-floppers man...

As one of those dick riding flip floppers, I'd like to point out that shit didn't flip instantly for him when he started posting here. That, and keeping a certain attitude towards a person (like I had) and keeping it just for the sake of keeping it is a little insane, especially when you've talked, met, yadda yadda. I mean, either that feeling would be reinforced or it would be unnecessary to keep.

Last one, and i could be mistaken... but I'm pretty sure koo = one way of saying cool on the innarneds.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: MostlyLurkin' on August 29, 2011, 07:39:40 AM
This thread is hilarious
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: sfa on August 29, 2011, 04:34:52 PM
wow, way to dredge up an old thread.

god, fuck all these new kids on here.

Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Mullet Man on August 29, 2011, 07:01:20 PM
I don't want to see anyone fucking any kids. Even God.

You are a sick bastard.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: happenstance on August 29, 2011, 08:02:08 PM
wow, way to dredge up an old thread.

god, fuck all these new kids on here.



Seriously, because everyone that made an account on the day you started yours or earlier is totally enlightened.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: I SUCK! on August 29, 2011, 08:30:25 PM
It's interesting to see the trend in all threads like this. A bunch of people talk shit on the dude who has a slap account (seems like it's usually The Chief). Then dude comes in, quickly denies the crazy rumors, and sets things straight. All of a sudden everybody loves him, and there's a couple pages of dick riding before the thread dies. Flip-floppers man...

koo_

So he's a kook for bringing up a perfectly valid point?

I obviously meant Kool, duh!
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: vulc on August 29, 2011, 09:00:53 PM
i just melon grabbed the leap of faith
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: pollutedvision on August 29, 2011, 09:33:13 PM
In that new cold war page, tom karangelov gets interviewed and he said that he always filming in hunington beach with his friends so it seems like he doesn't even skate with the team that often. he also said all the footage he uses for his part depends on what the chief likes

...this is a weird post man; it's like you're trying to add fuel to the fire, but you got nothing, so you're tryin to fabricate some crap.
we skate w Tom all the time, dude's so tight. Like any video, the editors and the riders picks what's used; I am in fact one of the editors for the company that I run. weird, huh?!


I've seen his homie film and he's really good at it, so I at least think a lot of the footage they get will be used in Cold War. These kids have really no full time jobs they'll get stacked on footy. Also Tom is always going trips with Zero.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Molusk One on August 30, 2011, 04:44:34 AM
It's interesting to see the trend in all threads like this. A bunch of people talk shit on the dude who has a slap account (seems like it's usually The Chief). Then dude comes in, quickly denies the crazy rumors, and sets things straight. All of a sudden everybody loves him, and there's a couple pages of dick riding before the thread dies. Flip-floppers man...

koo_

Interesting.....
So he's a kook for bringing up a perfectly valid point?

I obviously meant Kool, duh!
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: MostlyLurkin' on August 30, 2011, 07:12:52 AM
wow, way to dredge up an old thread.

god, fuck all these new kids on here.



Yeah bro!! Youre so much better and cooler than everyone else because you've been active on a internet forum longer than them. How can I be like you?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: ratherwatch on August 30, 2011, 08:23:44 AM
For what it's worth:
I used to work on a magazine that was approached somewhere in the mix about doing an interview with Jamie. There was some confusion about what the sequencing of the approach was, I didn't think it was particularly strong by his own high standards, and at the peak of his popularity I was loathe to appear like we were rolling over to the Europeans who didn't back the mag but slated it anyway, so I rejected it. That was at least partly down to weakness on my behalf.
Long story short, I later met Jamie, talked to him about it and not only was he genuine, frank and honest about how he felt it was handled, but he also took my viewpoint squarely on the chin. Not only that but he never pulled his ads from the mag even when he had been jogged on by a nobody, which compared to some of the crybaby cool guys I came across marks him out as a solid and admirable chap.
 There is no moral to this other than that I came away realising that my pre- conceived notions of him said more about me than they did about him, that he was pretty much 180 degrees the opposite of what I expected, and while I couldn't match his drive I couldn't fault his heart either.
 People I know claim to remember him sleeping rough at EMB. He came into a business which wouldn't give him daylight, which wanted to use his talent to line other peoples' pockets, he saw what he wanted and reached out and took it with neither help nor encouragement from his 'industry' peers, many of whose business practices would make Tony Soprano wince. You couldn't do that in skating without being forthright, and you couldn't get to where he has and opened as many doors as he has for others (let us not forget) by running a creche.
 More generally, my experience of skating has been that the guys who are considered outsiders are usually the most genuine, and the guys 'everybody loves' are political rats. So basically I'd like to thank him, ironically. Give me one straight talker over ten people who talk out the side of their mouths any day. At least he comes from skating.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Brown Thunder on August 30, 2011, 09:39:21 AM
i like jamie thomas
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: stickman1980 on August 30, 2011, 12:20:16 PM
Jamie Thomas - Welcome to Hell (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUVE57zRjAE#) one of my all time favorite parts...

http://www.zeroskateboards.com (http://www.zeroskateboards.com) Cold War is going to be rad.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: friendly dave on December 05, 2011, 12:05:34 AM
The only person who can give a completely accurate judgement of whether Jamie Thomas is a dick or not is Jamie himself, because no one else is able to account for every instance in his life except him.  So bitching about how much of a dick he is or praising him isn't going to really do anything because at the end of the day, Jamie will still be Jamie.

I honestly don't care about what kind of person he is.  He rips, and that's good enough for me.

And bumping an old thread like this makes you look like a kook.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: apad88 on December 05, 2011, 12:25:40 AM
The only person who can give a completely accurate judgement of whether Jamie Thomas is a dick or not is Jamie himself, because no one else is able to account for every instance in his life except him.  So bitching about how much of a dick he is or praising him isn't going to really do anything because at the end of the day, Jamie will still be Jamie.

I honestly don't care about what kind of person he is.  He rips, and that's good enough for me.
Your mom rips.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: iKobrakai on December 05, 2011, 03:20:36 AM
Lets say he is a dick, what are you little bitches gonna do? Not buy his product?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: bakedRice on December 05, 2011, 07:47:58 AM
The only person who can give a completely accurate judgement of whether Jamie Thomas is a dick or not is Jamie himself, because no one else is able to account for every instance in his life except him.  So bitching about how much of a dick he is or praising him isn't going to really do anything because at the end of the day, Jamie will still be Jamie.

I honestly don't care about what kind of person he is.  He rips, and that's good enough for me.

from most experiences the actual person is the least reliable source for an unbiased opinion of self, cause its not really possible. you seem like a retard, and i dont need you to tell me for me to know its true.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: GarglesCmen on December 05, 2011, 08:47:20 AM
(http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/a/f/af4bd_ORIG-Oh_Look_This_thread_again.jpg)
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Dirtymac on December 05, 2011, 11:40:55 AM
It's interesting to see the trend in all threads like this. A bunch of people talk shit on the dude who has a slap account (seems like it's usually The Chief). Then dude comes in, quickly denies the crazy rumors, and sets things straight. All of a sudden everybody loves him, and there's a couple pages of dick riding before the thread dies. Flip-floppers man...
^this....surprised though that it took 7 or 8 pages. It's like the $$$shot on a thread like this.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: GarglesCmen on December 05, 2011, 12:58:09 PM
I met the JT once at an expo. Dude is a total jock, just alpha as shit like live and let live man. Always trying to one up peoples jokes or go "ya right I know" or "dude! thats so rad" when were talking about throwing a plastic cup in a trash can. Fake ass hypocrite manipulative facist who beleives in GOD an imaganery guy in the sky who sill send you to hell for eternity if you are arab, chinese or jerk off. And whats with making all your riders dress like goths and having them do airwalk boardslides down 30 stair handrails while wearing bandanas, JT you have no style u should be more like gonz look at how he runs crooked, I could not imagine van wastell ever conforming to JT's dress code or skate style. FU Jamie cut this prebubiscint teenage angst demographic you are trying to sell to, this is skateboarding not "iM A FUCKIN REBEL SKATEBOARDER YEAGH AND I RIDE MOTORCYCLES AND LISTEN ONLY TO DEATH METAL AND FUCK GETTING AN EDUCATION AND FUCK EVERYONE BECAUSE NOONE UNDERSTANDS ME, BOOHOO". Also GOD fucking GOD dude in the 21st century there are still people that beleive in this over simplification of how the universe works! You think the universe gives a shit about your books and not having sex before youre married fuckin tard. Become an atheist Jamie and I garantee I will only buy black box, until then I dont like "your kind of people." Fuckin science has been screwed by these twats for years, we couldnt start reaserch on growing legs and arms for soldiers for 10 years because of you religous fuckers, you have no morals it join us or an eternity of suffering, GOD IS A FACIST, MANIPULATIVE CONTROL FREAK.
George Carlin - Religion is bullshit. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o#)

(http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/43/i-see-what-you-did-there.jpg)
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: iKobrakai on December 05, 2011, 01:29:35 PM
Become an atheist Jamie and I garantee I will only buy black box, until then I dont like "your kind of people."
George Carlin - Religion is bullshit. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o#)

So as of now you are buying Flip only?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: The Twilight Zone on December 05, 2011, 01:40:19 PM
I could not imagine van wastell ever conforming to JT's dress code or skate style.

Thats because he's dead
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: DayMan on December 05, 2011, 01:49:11 PM
its all true! and hes a war vet not jesus.

and what war did he fight in?

the cold war!
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: shouldn't on December 05, 2011, 07:21:30 PM
jamie is sick. he has done some weird things but, no one can make you dress/look/skate a certain way. it's not like there's anyone on zero/mystery/fallen/slave that couldn't find another sponsor. he made a company (5 companies actually) that have a particular image to each one & the people that ride for them aren't forced into wearing anything they don't want to. do you think he says "hey garrett, i'll give you an extra 500 bucks this month if you shave half of your head & wear these half red/half black pants"? no... that mother fucker reads harry potter, he was weird in the first place. tom asta wears the same shit he always has. cole may have said that jamie sent him "gothic" clothes but, that dude has gone back & forth between dress styles more then anyone i can think of & anyone can admit that he looked sickest in new blood/hotwax compared to this new wristband & keychain weird shit he has going on. the point is, jamie is sick. anyone that thinks he is corrupt has obviously never been a buisness man or, a successful one at least. also, how many of you buy anything from blackbox? exactly. so who cares? jamie, keep doing you man. even if that means dressing like John Fogerty everyday.  ;)
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Mccauly on December 06, 2011, 12:21:18 AM
at the time of the "welcome to hell" or "misled youth" videos, he was one of my favorites,

In 2007 I was in Barcelona an saw the Zero/ Fallen Guys at MACBA filming for strange world. It was really weird to see, how they came early in the morning and had a few people on the scene just taking care that no strangers making photos or filming with their mobiles.

Then they wanted to shoot Cole's 360 kf down the big four. Cole was wearing a shirt of some metal band, and before he started trying
he got in a disussion with Jamie because of the shirt. Jamie made some teamguy giving his Zero shirt to Cole for the shoot. It was way too big and dirty and Cole looked really pissed about having to wear this shirt. He claimed that it was too big and he looked stupid, so Jamie took a knive an cut the shirt a little bit shorter. It looked way more stupid than before. Anyway, Cole started a few god looking tries of his trick but had to give up because of the slams. He probably went back the next day to make it, but unfortunately I never saw the footage of that ad...

What was really impressing, was Jamies fs nosegrind 180 down that old MACBA Ledge/ Wall. He went full speed an made it a few times just trying to look perfect on video. I could even sneak a pic of that trick...luckily they didn't see me...    ;D
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on December 06, 2011, 12:42:06 AM
jamie thomas: skateboarder, business man, tailor.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Arlhem on December 06, 2011, 09:52:19 AM
...
Then they wanted to shoot Cole's 360 kf down the big four. Cole was wearing a shirt of some metal band, and before he started trying
he got in a disussion with Jamie because of the shirt. Jamie made some teamguy giving his Zero shirt to Cole for the shoot. It was way too big and dirty and Cole looked really pissed about having to wear this shirt. He claimed that it was too big and he looked stupid, so Jamie took a knive an cut the shirt a little bit shorter.
...

Seems like a believable story.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: BlackEye77 on December 07, 2011, 03:54:27 PM
Lots of inane babble... And a George Carlin video.

Your mommy should limit your caffeine intake.

Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: BlackEye77 on December 08, 2011, 03:48:53 PM
Lots of inane babble... And a George Carlin video.

Your mommy should limit your caffeine intake.


My mom died in thailand asshole. Im all groen up now im 23!

If that's true, it's sad, but I didn't say anything degrading about your mother so don't try to make me feel like a bad person.

And don't take things so literally. My little brother hung himself a few years ago but I don't flip out on someone if they mention him or crack a suicide joke. I understand being sensitive but there's also a line that wasn't crossed here.

Most importantly, don't constantly be a dick to other people then try to pull guilt trip shit when someone makes a smartass comment, Mr "all grown up."
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: No mongz on December 08, 2011, 08:41:08 PM
nazi bastard
Zero is facist
"cold war"
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Money Black on December 08, 2011, 09:02:35 PM
Lots of inane babble... And a George Carlin video.

Your mommy should limit your caffeine intake.


My mom died in thailand asshole. Im all groen up now im 23!

If that's true, it's sad, but I didn't say anything degrading about your mother so don't try to make me feel like a bad person.

And don't take things so literally. My little brother hung himself a few years ago but I don't flip out on someone if they mention him or crack a suicide joke. I understand being sensitive but there's also a line that wasn't crossed here.

Most importantly, don't constantly be a dick to other people then try to pull guilt trip shit when someone makes a smartass comment, Mr "all grown up."

nah dude, you took it too far...

haha kidding i hate assholes that pull that shit on me
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: oyolar on December 08, 2011, 11:07:26 PM
Lots of inane babble... And a George Carlin video.

Your mommy should limit your caffeine intake.


My mom died in thailand asshole. Im all groen up now im 23!

If that's true, it's sad, but I didn't say anything degrading about your mother so don't try to make me feel like a bad person.

And don't take things so literally. My little brother hung himself a few years ago but I don't flip out on someone if they mention him or crack a suicide joke. I understand being sensitive but there's also a line that wasn't crossed here.

Most importantly, don't constantly be a dick to other people then try to pull guilt trip shit when someone makes a smartass comment, Mr "all grown up."

Hanged. My little brother hanged himself. People are hanged, pictures are hung.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Strike A Pose on December 09, 2011, 12:47:29 AM
Zero is wack as fuck!
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Buddy G on December 09, 2011, 01:39:30 AM
Zero is wack as fuck!

i've never really been at all into any of jamies companies and used to strongly feel that they/he had a negative impact on skating as a whole..

however, as long as Mystery keep making symmetrical 7.8 decks they will be all i buy and my favourite company for lyfe.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: 1978 on December 09, 2011, 02:07:44 AM
It's true. It's no different than Antihero trying to corner the flannel shirt/Half-Cabs/Burnside market.

Every company has it's image, even if they try to be subtle about it. It's there.

No Anti Hero is a bunch of friends, and no one changed to ride for Anti Hero. You should be ashamed of yourself for saying something so stupid.


Andrew Allen? ? I remember him switch heelflip front boarding rails, now he's doing a bunch of wallies and wearing flannels...also, I remember when Tony Miorana was an arty vegetarian who listened to Joy Division (although he did change a while before he got on Anti-Hero).

morron is a fucking wanker.    weird dude.  real talk.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: 1978 on December 09, 2011, 02:09:11 AM
not really.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Stoop Kid on December 09, 2011, 10:33:18 AM
Zero is wack as fuck!

i've never really been at all into any of jamies companies and used to strongly feel that they/he had a negative impact on skating as a whole..

however, as long as Mystery keep making symmetrical 7.8 decks they will be all i buy and my favourite company for lyfe.

What negative impacts are you talking about? Im not trying to argue or anything im just curious.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: grayham on December 09, 2011, 11:51:37 AM
Lots of inane babble... And a George Carlin video.

Your mommy should limit your caffeine intake.


My mom died in thailand asshole. Im all groen up now im 23!

If that's true, it's sad, but I didn't say anything degrading about your mother so don't try to make me feel like a bad person.

And don't take things so literally. My little brother hung himself a few years ago but I don't flip out on someone if they mention him or crack a suicide joke. I understand being sensitive but there's also a line that wasn't crossed here.

Most importantly, don't constantly be a dick to other people then try to pull guilt trip shit when someone makes a smartass comment, Mr "all grown up."

BWAHAHAHAHA shit I was just kidding, sorry about your brother though

so wait... you're not 23????
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: tb303 on December 09, 2011, 12:50:19 PM
nah im 14 but my mom that bitch didnt die in thailand, it was senegal a hippo ate her

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s49/Mr_Muggles/GIFS/Chuckle.gif)
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on December 12, 2011, 07:56:22 AM
those conformists piss me off, brah.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: DeerTay on December 12, 2011, 03:26:50 PM
I once saw Jaime focus a kitten at the end of a demo...
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: chuck d on December 12, 2011, 03:55:08 PM
Lots of inane babble... And a George Carlin video.

Your mommy should limit your caffeine intake.


My mom died in thailand asshole. Im all groen up now im 23!

If that's true, it's sad, but I didn't say anything degrading about your mother so don't try to make me feel like a bad person.

And don't take things so literally. My little brother hung himself a few years ago but I don't flip out on someone if they mention him or crack a suicide joke. I understand being sensitive but there's also a line that wasn't crossed here.

Most importantly, don't constantly be a dick to other people then try to pull guilt trip shit when someone makes a smartass comment, Mr "all grown up."

Hanged. My little brother hanged himself. People are hanged, pictures are hung.

I hate correcting people, but I'm not a picture and I'm hung.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: smokecrack on December 12, 2011, 04:02:49 PM
Lots of inane babble... And a George Carlin video.

Your mommy should limit your caffeine intake.


My mom died in thailand asshole. Im all groen up now im 23!

If that's true, it's sad, but I didn't say anything degrading about your mother so don't try to make me feel like a bad person.

And don't take things so literally. My little brother hung himself a few years ago but I don't flip out on someone if they mention him or crack a suicide joke. I understand being sensitive but there's also a line that wasn't crossed here.

Most importantly, don't constantly be a dick to other people then try to pull guilt trip shit when someone makes a smartass comment, Mr "all grown up."

Hanged. My little brother hanged himself. People are hanged, pictures are hung.

I hate correcting people, but I'm not a picture and I'm hung.

(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvz6wgiFMZ1ql4ohao2_500.gif)

+1 to you, sir
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: StopSnitchinCuz on December 13, 2011, 05:37:13 PM
Jamie is an extremely smart business man, and honestly if you dont like how he gets down, you cant ride for his companies. Cant fault him though for his approach because he has several successful companies. Never skated with the dude but we've chatted before while he was in town, stand up guy, he even bought me some wine
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Harem on December 13, 2011, 05:43:16 PM
Jamie, when are you hooking up Jack Kirk up? Apparently he is yr favourite skater.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Psalmtree on December 13, 2011, 05:51:22 PM
Joke:

What's the only thing funnier than watching Jamie Thomas try to skate tranny?



Watching any of his parts after Thrill of it All.

I'll be here all week.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Skate_lurker_Rob on July 19, 2018, 01:47:43 PM
i wasn't really trying to compare those two guys.  Julien truly does not give a fuck, I just think anti-hero takes that whole attitude a little too far sometimes with the whole being dicks to people, setting skateparks on fire, and whatnot.  Is sucks that a lot of kids jock that attitude and behave like little assholes, but i guess its not Anti-hero's fault, they're just doing their thing.  Jamie, on the other hand, appears to be somewhat out of his mind.  All of the weird shit people say about him is pretty much true.  We had a guy shoot a Louisiana article for Transworld back in the day.  People NEVER come here to shoot skate photos, so it was a long time coming.  Anyway, the article was shot and laid out, and then out of nowhere we heard that it wasn't going to happen.  The word was Jamie was tired of all of these "hometown scene" articles in Transworld and said something to the effect of "why should these nobody guys in some little town get coverage, when me and my riders could get coverage doing the same tricks at the same spots".  it was my first introduction into "skateboard politics" and it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.   still, he seemed nice when I met him.  He gave me a fallen shirt "just to wash your car with or something".  I almost told him "no thanks" before I caught myself and graciously took the shirt..no matter how much of a kook someone is, if they're nice to me I can't help but be nice back...
I met him while he had his family down in Palm Beach as his sister lives somewhere in the burbs, anyways he came up to me and my crew as we were looking at a  set of boards we wanted. I nodded and asked hey we met before he had the look like maybe?! I mentioned a few friends in Chattanooga and it went well from there.

 He did call out my tattoos and brands as I have a few my ex did  in an artistic design. I mentioned SF and how people there can be a bit snobbish he asked me you sure are an enigma........ I didn't know how to take that so I just halfassed chuckled hehe..... He seemed like a nice guy but it felt forced and disingenuous in it's intent.

My homies Sid & Thurman had Jamie over to their penthouse all the while trying to get him to swing with some strippers/hookers I don't know the full details but that was told to me by both homies.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: shark tits on July 19, 2018, 07:16:41 PM
2 things, this thread and all the old posts are funny as hell.
slap fell the fuck of, everyone on here was pitching comedic heat.
second, SLRob, you're friends w/ the ATL twins?
hahahahahahaha
tell me some stories
hahahahaha
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: ChiefSQueff on July 19, 2018, 07:26:30 PM
You could ask him yourself. I heard he loves talking about himself and over explains everything. You could ask me too and I'll relay the message since I am in fact the Chief's Queff
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Skate_lurker_Rob on July 19, 2018, 07:47:31 PM
2 things, this thread and all the old posts are funny as hell.
slap fell the fuck of, everyone on here was pitching comedic heat.
second, SLRob, you're friends w/ the ATL twins?
hahahahahahaha
tell me some stories
hahahahaha

Okay first off I use to be around them and in their circle of friends partied with them, however it's been me being a wallflower with those guy's we spoke and shit but I was a sit back quiet guy. I sat back and watched the shenanigans go down Chatt is a redneck shithole, they use to live in the basement with their sister in a pink building nicknamed the same In Chattanooga. Those guys were destined to be rockstars I for one have reaped the rewards from their kickdowns and free shit but it's been when I actually needed it and I saw them at the 40 yard diy spot or Stevie Williams park he has there. The ATL scene is rad and welcoming. The twins aren't as douchey as they seem that's just how they are on or off camera it was abitch trying to pull some ladies 9x's outta 10 she was their's if you were looking some decent ladies in the surrounding area you had to be careful if they were friends with Sid & Thurm they probably had their way with whoever. It was sketchy.
had a few decent gals I was psyched on and soon as the y drop their names I was like oh did you guys hangout? their like yeah...... uggghhh now I remember why I stopped hanging out with them total buzzkill, them and Braydon Szf whatever the fuck his stupid name is he's a skeazy swinger type of ddude.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: shark tits on July 19, 2018, 07:52:37 PM
2 things, this thread and all the old posts are funny as hell.
slap fell the fuck of, everyone on here was pitching comedic heat.
second, SLRob, you're friends w/ the ATL twins?
hahahahahahaha
tell me some stories
hahahahaha

Okay first off I have been around them and in their circle of friends and partied with them, however it's been me being a wallflower with those guy's. I sat back and watched the shenanigans go down, they use to live in the basement with their sister in a pink building nicknamed the same. In Chattanooga. Those guys were destined to be rockstars I for one have reaped the rewards from kickdowns and free shit but it's been I actually needed it and I saw them at the 40 yard diy spot or Stevie Williams park he has there. The ATL scene is rad and welcoming. The twins aren't as douchey as they seem that's just how they are on or off camera. Also if you were looking some decent ladies in the surrounding area you had to be careful if they were friends with Sid & Thurm they probably had their way with whoever. It was sketchy.
they do seem douchy but also kind of fascinating. fakie manuals, dudes can really skate and they seem to share a brain/finish sentences.
maybe the godoys were the same way and this is just history repeating itself? one day there will be a little knox sewell and he'll knock over trash and piss away his sponsor and end up in jail w/ twon jr.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: SneakySecrets on July 19, 2018, 09:23:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0PMIWuZ7g4&feature=share

Is it just me or is he going out of his way to look like a pedophile these days?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: SHIREFLIP on July 20, 2018, 07:54:14 AM
Somewhere between 2001-2003, I was a gangly little fool. All tall and disproportionate. Limewire or some shit gave us access to poorly ripped skate vids (most of which started with YEEY YEYY!!! ICE CUBE BEBE) and Welcome to Hell was a favourite of mine. I really liked BA. He looked really tall but moved fluently, and I wanted to skate like that.

One day, my homie Dylan tells me Jamie Thomas didn't want BA on Toy Machine initially because BA was gay. This was like 2002 or 03 at the latest. I never really thought anything of it.

I hadn't seen Dylan in like 10+ years when BA came out, but I thought of him right away. Dirty D, if you're on here, how'd you get that spicy intel on the Chief?
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: Skate_lurker_Rob on July 20, 2018, 08:18:36 AM

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they do seem douchy but also kind of fascinating. fakie manuals, dudes can really skate and they seem to share a brain/finish sentences.
maybe the godoys were the same way and this is just history repeating itself? one day there will be a little knox sewell and he'll knock over trash and piss away his sponsor and end up in jail w/ twon jr.
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You know the dude or group of dudes that seemed to have all the charisma and skills to pull some skirts well the ATL twins have always been about fucking, now i am not baggin them for being interested in pussy. however leave some for the rest without taint the genepool of chatt
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: feedmeseymour on July 20, 2018, 08:24:25 AM
youre replying to a comment from 11 years ago... great stuff as usual man.
Title: Re: jamie thomas, mean side?
Post by: drunkenshredder on July 20, 2018, 08:49:55 AM
what page number was this on?