Anybody ells like MMA ? What did you think of UFC 193 ?
Was a really good fight with James Moontasri some good taekwondo skills
My fav Joanna Jędrzejczyk vs Letourneau was a super good fight aswell . I though JJ was gonna knock her out in round 2
but was a much tougher fight then I thought . I guess Letourneau droppding down in weight and being a bigger girl
was part of that . Still JJ fucked her up for 5 rounds ,
Rousey Vs Holm was a good fight too , Holm was kiting rousey around the ring and just punching her in the face . Rousey looked really out of it ? maybe a bad weight cut ? or the opening punches ? she just looked slow and gassed out . Anyways super good knock out
she stuck to the game plan and fucked her up
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Expand QuoteAnybody ells like MMA ? What did you think of UFC 193 ?
Was a really good fight with James Moontasri some good taekwondo skills
My fav Joanna Jędrzejczyk vs Letourneau was a super good fight aswell . I though JJ was gonna knock her out in round 2
but was a much tougher fight then I thought . I guess Letourneau droppding down in weight and being a bigger girl
was part of that . Still JJ fucked her up for 5 rounds ,
Rousey Vs Holm was a good fight too , Holm was kiting rousey around the ring and just punching her in the face . Rousey looked really out of it ? maybe a bad weight cut ? or the opening punches ? she just looked slow and gassed out . Anyways super good knock out
she stuck to the game plan and fucked her up[close]
Rousey bought into her own hype, she fell in love with her mediocre striking ability and got exposed by a former kickboxing and boxing champ. From the first time she got hit in the face you could tell that she didn't like it, to make matters worse Holly took her down once and also escaped Rousey having her on top on the ground in round 1. Best part of the fight besides the knockout was when Holly ducked under Rousey and she went flying into the cage.
Maybe Dana can promote the real womens star Joanna. She's a beast.
(http://www.cagepotato.com/wp-content/uploads/gallery/awkward-mma-photos/awkward03.jpg)Pouahaha K.O Straight up !
Wow. Aldo out in seconds, cutting McGregor on the way down. Kind of disappointed we didn't get to see them fight because it looked promising, but glad I stayed up for this one.They did fight, thats how fights in the real world actually go down. You never see a street fight go for more than 30 seconds, those UFC fags just hug eachother for 15 minutes and call it "fighting." There's boxing, and there's fighting.. UFC is neither
I meant a longer fight, but I'm sure you know that. Great fight nonetheless.What did you expect? 2 highly skilled brawlers in a cage aren't gonna fuck around for Joe Rogans approval
Luke Rochold's "skateboarding is what made me tough" quote always got me hyped. Now he's got the belt.
Luke Rochold's "skateboarding is what made me tough" quote always got me hyped. Now he's got the belt.
Main events are now 2 women beating the shit out of eachother.. How did UFC get this popular? It was better when you could curb stomp people and elbow some brain damage. Glancing elbows isn't exactly "ultimate" imo... Boxing is way tougher try holding your arms up for 5-10 minutes, those guys do it for 12 rounds vs someone trying to punch their face the entire time.Expand QuoteLuke Rochold's "skateboarding is what made me tough" quote always got me hyped. Now he's got the belt.[close]
He's a skater???? Cool.
Shithouse ref job from Big John(?) in that fight though.
I find UFC pretty boring now days. Idk.
Expand QuoteLuke Rochold's "skateboarding is what made me tough" quote always got me hyped. Now he's got the belt.[close]
He's a skater???? Cool.
Shithouse ref job from Big John(?) in that fight though.
I find UFC pretty boring now days. Idk.
I love UFC when I catch it on. Probably don't have to explain why.
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No but we love it when you do ;)
So weak. They say she is going to film two movies before that. so basically no time to train striking.
Plus shows that the UFC has no interest in wmma outside of ronda.
In non UFC news, Fedor's opponent in Rizin is so weak. A nobody brought in to get punched. I am interested to see Fedor fight again but would have wanted to see a challenge
Cerrone is a good hammer but a poor nail. He folds i.e. the Pettis fight. Plus he starts slowly. Probably shouldn't have called RDA Frankenstein.
So did anybody see 195 ??
Albert Tumenov vs Lorenz Larkin was a good fight , I was hoping Tumenov would win ,and he did but he didnt dominate as much
as his last fight , and his leg was getting attacked hard
Stipe Miocic vs Andrei Arlovski . over way too fast , and I was hoping Arlovski would win . Funny how Stipe was screaming at Dana asking for a title shot
Robbie Lawler vs Carlos Condit . Pulling for Condit and I kind of thought he won . But it was a battle and pretty fucking amazing fight
Well they could go to Pride rules which was based on damage/winner of the whole fight. They need to implement the pride gloves too to help with the eye pokes. Or the new Bellator gloves.
I wanted Condit for the win as well and think he did enough. They are saying there might be an immediate rematch but we will see, Condit kind of seems over fighting.
I was pretty sure that arlovski was going down like that. Stipe is really good. I would like to see him fight Overeem . I would also like to see Rothwell get into the upper mix. He slayed overreem and got nothing for it.
Cerrone is moving up to 170 for his next fight. It will be interesting to see how it goes. Ben Henderson has done pretty well.
Lastly Mcgregor vs RDA coming up. I have to go with RDA
Expand QuoteWell they could go to Pride rules which was based on damage/winner of the whole fight. They need to implement the pride gloves too to help with the eye pokes. Or the new Bellator gloves.
I wanted Condit for the win as well and think he did enough. They are saying there might be an immediate rematch but we will see, Condit kind of seems over fighting.
I was pretty sure that arlovski was going down like that. Stipe is really good. I would like to see him fight Overeem . I would also like to see Rothwell get into the upper mix. He slayed overreem and got nothing for it.
Cerrone is moving up to 170 for his next fight. It will be interesting to see how it goes. Ben Henderson has done pretty well.
Lastly Mcgregor vs RDA coming up. I have to go with RDA[close]
but the HYPE !? , what about the HYPE ?!? dont you belive in the HYPE ?!
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWell they could go to Pride rules which was based on damage/winner of the whole fight. They need to implement the pride gloves too to help with the eye pokes. Or the new Bellator gloves.
I wanted Condit for the win as well and think he did enough. They are saying there might be an immediate rematch but we will see, Condit kind of seems over fighting.
I was pretty sure that arlovski was going down like that. Stipe is really good. I would like to see him fight Overeem . I would also like to see Rothwell get into the upper mix. He slayed overreem and got nothing for it.
Cerrone is moving up to 170 for his next fight. It will be interesting to see how it goes. Ben Henderson has done pretty well.
Lastly Mcgregor vs RDA coming up. I have to go with RDA[close]
but the HYPE !? , what about the HYPE ?!? dont you belive in the HYPE ?![close]
Honestly, I told everyone Conor was going to get exposed by Poirier. Then how Mendes was going to wreck him. Then how Aldo was going to put him in his place. At this point, I think he really does have lucky charms up his ass.
I kinda wish he would have some tune-ups first at 155. Cerrone, Diaz and Pettis all would have been exciting.
a State Athletic Commission today moved quickly to approve a settlement with suspended UFC welterweight Nick Diaz, voting unanimously to reduce the onetime title challenger’s five-year suspension to 18 months with a $100,000 fine.
Diaz’s suspension runs retroactively to his Jan. 31, 2015 fight with Anderson Silva at UFC 183, which produced the positive test that resulted in his third suspension with the NSAC. He is eligible to fight Aug. 1, per the terms of the settlement.
Welterweight Nate Diaz vs. Conor McGregor
Light Heavyweight Anthony Johnson vs. Glover Teixeira
Welterweight Rick Story vs. Donald Cerrone
Welterweight Hyun Gyu Lim vs. Mike Perry
Welterweight Tim Means vs. Sabah Homasi
Bantamweight Cody Garbrandt vs. Takeya Mizugaki
Women's Bantamweight Raquel Pennington vs. Elizabeth Phillips
Featherweight Artem Lobov vs. Chris Avila
Women's Strawweight Randa Markos vs. Cortney Casey
Welterweight Neil Magny vs. Lorenz Larkin
Welterweight Colby Covington vs. Max Griffin
Middleweight Alberto Uda vs. Marvin Vettori
Garbrant vs Mizugaki (I'd love to see the Garbrant hype train come to an end, but I think he wins this one by KO early)
Yeah there were a few moments where I was sure Conor was done, but he did a great job of recovering between rounds. Plus all of the blood and damage to his leg kind of fucked Diaz's ability to generate offense later in the fight. He should probably try to get some of his scar tissue removed so he doesn't cut as easily in the future.
Also, how about Anthony Johnson fucking murdering Glover? I think he's the scariest guy in the UFC.
Anthony Johnsons knockout was amazing , just amazing and it will be a good fight vs DC . Have a hard time backing Johnson cause of his personal life stuff , but he is a good fighter
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Anthony Johnsons knockout was amazing , just amazing and it will be a good fight vs DC . Have a hard time backing Johnson cause of his personal life stuff , but he is a good fighter
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Wait.....what is with his personal life? I am not too in tuned with the UFC in that way.
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Anthony Johnsons knockout was amazing , just amazing and it will be a good fight vs DC . Have a hard time backing Johnson cause of his personal life stuff , but he is a good fighter
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Wait.....what is with his personal life? I am not too in tuned with the UFC in that way.[close]
Damn...that's fucked. I watched all the episodes of the documentries leading up to UFC 202 and the guy seemed like a cool dude for the most part. That always puts an odd asterisk on someone's name.
accusations of wife/girlfriend abuse, something about dog abuse as well
you would think Condit would have spent a large majority of his camp on takedown defence. for some reason it never improves. It was not secret what Maia was going to do. As soon as I saw him throwing kicks I knew it was going to be over fast. the slow start and takedown defence are his fatal weaknesses.
Werdum embarrassed brown last time so hopefully he can do it again.
Andrade vs Calderwood. Love Calderwood, you're right, she's such a sweetie, so likeable. But damn did you see Andrade's last fight? She looked terrifying. If you haven't seen it, track it down. Scary stuff. I think she wrecks Calderwood. And I predict she's the next champ at strawwieght.
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Andrade vs Calderwood. Love Calderwood, you're right, she's such a sweetie, so likeable. But damn did you see Andrade's last fight? She looked terrifying. If you haven't seen it, track it down. Scary stuff. I think she wrecks Calderwood. And I predict she's the next champ at strawwieght.[close]
That fight was a easy one for Andrade . Not because she is that good , but because Joanna broke her. Look at Jessica Penne ,Carla Esparza and
Val?rie L?tourneau . They all looked very different in their next fight after Joanna . Specially Penne and Esparza who both took long time offs and came back looking horrible
Penne didnt do a single thing in the fight vs Andrade , just took it. Joanna is a monster
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Werdum embarrassed brown last time so hopefully he can do it again.[close]
Watch that first round, Travis almost finished him with a big shot. After that, it was all Werdum, but still, that's why I'm so damn nervous. Heavyweights can always knock each other out at anytime.
Also, yeah poor Mr. Creepy
Setting aside the odds and expectations against him, CM Punk not shaking Mickey Gall's hand was fucking baller. Lots of people do it, but Punk did it right. Gall looked shook.
Expand QuoteSetting aside the odds and expectations against him, CM Punk not shaking Mickey Gall's hand was fucking baller. Lots of people do it, but Punk did it right. Gall looked shook.[close]
Agree. That was pretty badass! Gall did look shook. Maybe CM lasts longer than 1 minute after all
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSetting aside the odds and expectations against him, CM Punk not shaking Mickey Gall's hand was fucking baller. Lots of people do it, but Punk did it right. Gall looked shook.[close]
Agree. That was pretty badass! Gall did look shook. Maybe CM lasts longer than 1 minute after all[close]
Not shaking Gall's hand is what got him choked out in the first round. I could have seen Mickey letting him play for a round before ending the fight, which Mickey had the power to do from the start.
CM's welcome to the UFC punches were epic, props to Mickey for always showing up.
And Stipe.... Wow. Overeem STILL feeling those punches, regardless of when you read this hahaha
GSP vs Bisping is not very interesting to me, Bisping is doing everything he can to not defend the belt against romero
It's fucking on gentlemen! Mayweather vs McGregor August 26th
Most hyped fight since Tyson
Expand QuoteIt's fucking on gentlemen! Mayweather vs McGregor August 26th
Most hyped fight since Tyson[close]
Its bullshit. Its a freak show
Money is 40 his speed might be dwindling. McGregor is 28 I think he could win ???
Expand QuoteMoney is 40 his speed might be dwindling. McGregor is 28 I think he could win ???[close]
Not in boxing though. His offense isn't that good. Even Manny had a hard time pursuing Mayweather. All Floyd has to do is evade and get some technical points and he's good.
Connor has absolutely no chance to win this fight
He's probably the best 145 pounder in the UFC but he'll never make that weight again.
I actually have never seen the Conelo vs Mayweather fight but how did he lose there?
I think the street fight mentality could work but Mayweather would never allow it. Since he is a defensive fighter, he will just cover or play defense and then move out of the corner. Connor will just have to find a tactic where he can land punches but also not get hit. I would imagine fighting Floyd is very frustrating.
Its kind of sad in a way. Ive tried to keep this thread alive many times. And theres been no shortage of interesting things happening in UFC. New owner shit storm. Cody dropping out and the TJ vs DJ shit storm showing Danas mafia style negotiating. Joanna and Stipe defending their belts. Max defeating Jose Aldo.
And the thing that bumps this thread is conor vs floyd...QuoteExpand QuoteConnor has absolutely no chance to win this fight[close]
Really ? absolutely no chance ? not even 1% ? There is no way in hell he can get a lucky shot in ? or Floyd makes a costly mistake ? or that its a fixed fight ? theres not even a 0.00000001% chance he can win ? lolQuoteExpand QuoteHe's probably the best 145 pounder in the UFC but he'll never make that weight again.[close]
So if the UFC offerd Conor 500 Milion USD to make 145 ? are you telling me he cant do it ? cause hes made weight every time. He has Never missed weight at 145. So what makes you so sure he cant make it now ?
So many weird things about this fight. Nevada sanctioned a boxing fight between the best boxer in the world with a 50/0 record vs a guy who hasnt done a single pro or am boxing fight...
Unless Conor gets knocked out I guess its a win for MMA. If Conor wins its a win for the MMA. If Floyd wins on points I guess its not really a win for boxing, But more a win for MMA
But Boxing fans will have a field day with this shit. If Conor looses there will be no end to all the shit MMA fans will get. How much superior boxing is to MMA. And when you bring up that Conor left MMA to go to boxing and left behind grappling, kicking, knees, elbows and everything ells. But it wont matter. They will still say boxing is superior cause floyd won...
I hope Conor goes in hand head kicks him, gives him a 1,2 and then takes him down and chokes him out. Or atleast totaly destroys him the press conferences. Brings up the woman beating every 2 minutes and every other shitty thing about floyd
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All I know is Conor can hit, and will be training at elevation with the best coaches in boxing. Will be a huge blow for boxing if money loses, and we're all sick of Mayweather.Expand QuoteIts kind of sad in a way. Ive tried to keep this thread alive many times. And theres been no shortage of interesting things happening in UFC. New owner shit storm. Cody dropping out and the TJ vs DJ shit storm showing Danas mafia style negotiating. Joanna and Stipe defending their belts. Max defeating Jose Aldo.
And the thing that bumps this thread is conor vs floyd...QuoteExpand QuoteConnor has absolutely no chance to win this fight[close]
Really ? absolutely no chance ? not even 1% ? There is no way in hell he can get a lucky shot in ? or Floyd makes a costly mistake ? or that its a fixed fight ? theres not even a 0.00000001% chance he can win ? lolQuoteExpand QuoteHe's probably the best 145 pounder in the UFC but he'll never make that weight again.[close]
So if the UFC offerd Conor 500 Milion USD to make 145 ? are you telling me he cant do it ? cause hes made weight every time. He has Never missed weight at 145. So what makes you so sure he cant make it now ?
So many weird things about this fight. Nevada sanctioned a boxing fight between the best boxer in the world with a 50/0 record vs a guy who hasnt done a single pro or am boxing fight...
Unless Conor gets knocked out I guess its a win for MMA. If Conor wins its a win for the MMA. If Floyd wins on points I guess its not really a win for boxing, But more a win for MMA
But Boxing fans will have a field day with this shit. If Conor looses there will be no end to all the shit MMA fans will get. How much superior boxing is to MMA. And when you bring up that Conor left MMA to go to boxing and left behind grappling, kicking, knees, elbows and everything ells. But it wont matter. They will still say boxing is superior cause floyd won...
I hope Conor goes in hand head kicks him, gives him a 1,2 and then takes him down and chokes him out. Or atleast totaly destroys him the press conferences. Brings up the woman beating every 2 minutes and every other shitty thing about floyd[close]
1% is about the chance he has. Not really a competitive fight. I'm saying he'll never go to 145 again because he has no incentive to go back down. He has a really hard time making the weight and he doesn't seem to have any interest in fighting anyone at that weight. I would guess that if he ever even fights in the UFC after this it will be super fights. He should take his money and run. Why put yourself through the damage for a much smaller payday.
You are right that some boxing fans will say that boxing is the superior fighting style but who cares. Most people have no idea what they're talking about when it comes to fighting. I did Muay Thai for 22 years and a few years of jujitsu and I'm only qusai informed on mma. Obviously an mma fight between them would be over way faster than this boxing match will be. I hope the fight goes a few rounds at least.
Floyd is a complete piece of shit as a human so yet another reason this fight is a bummer.
But really it's just a sport so fuck it get paid.
I'll just put this video of Connor sparring a boxer no were near floyds level here.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=etWbCUQ_68w (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=etWbCUQ_68w)
Expand QuoteIts kind of sad in a way. Ive tried to keep this thread alive many times. And theres been no shortage of interesting things happening in UFC. New owner shit storm. Cody dropping out and the TJ vs DJ shit storm showing Danas mafia style negotiating. Joanna and Stipe defending their belts. Max defeating Jose Aldo.
And the thing that bumps this thread is conor vs floyd...QuoteExpand QuoteConnor has absolutely no chance to win this fight[close]
Really ? absolutely no chance ? not even 1% ? There is no way in hell he can get a lucky shot in ? or Floyd makes a costly mistake ? or that its a fixed fight ? theres not even a 0.00000001% chance he can win ? lolQuoteExpand QuoteHe's probably the best 145 pounder in the UFC but he'll never make that weight again.[close]
So if the UFC offerd Conor 500 Milion USD to make 145 ? are you telling me he cant do it ? cause hes made weight every time. He has Never missed weight at 145. So what makes you so sure he cant make it now ?
So many weird things about this fight. Nevada sanctioned a boxing fight between the best boxer in the world with a 50/0 record vs a guy who hasnt done a single pro or am boxing fight...
Unless Conor gets knocked out I guess its a win for MMA. If Conor wins its a win for the MMA. If Floyd wins on points I guess its not really a win for boxing, But more a win for MMA
But Boxing fans will have a field day with this shit. If Conor looses there will be no end to all the shit MMA fans will get. How much superior boxing is to MMA. And when you bring up that Conor left MMA to go to boxing and left behind grappling, kicking, knees, elbows and everything ells. But it wont matter. They will still say boxing is superior cause floyd won...
I hope Conor goes in hand head kicks him, gives him a 1,2 and then takes him down and chokes him out. Or atleast totaly destroys him the press conferences. Brings up the woman beating every 2 minutes and every other shitty thing about floyd[close]
1% is about the chance he has. Not really a competitive fight. I'm saying he'll never go to 145 again because he has no incentive to go back down. He has a really hard time making the weight and he doesn't seem to have any interest in fighting anyone at that weight. I would guess that if he ever even fights in the UFC after this it will be super fights. He should take his money and run. Why put yourself through the damage for a much smaller payday.
You are right that some boxing fans will say that boxing is the superior fighting style but who cares. Most people have no idea what they're talking about when it comes to fighting. I did Muay Thai for 22 years and a few years of jujitsu and I'm only qusai informed on mma. Obviously an mma fight between them would be over way faster than this boxing match will be. I hope the fight goes a few rounds at least.
Floyd is a complete piece of shit as a human so yet another reason this fight is a bummer.
But really it's just a sport so fuck it get paid.
I'll just put this video of Connor sparring a boxer no were near floyds level here.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=etWbCUQ_68w (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=etWbCUQ_68w)
Plus conors power will be much diminished by the 16oz gloves
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16 ounce is for sparring. 10 ounce gloves are used in almost all professional fights. But you are correct. It will take some power away.
He probably has improved in the last year. Especially if he gave up on all other training to focus on boxing but it's relative. He could take the next 5 years off and only box and still wouldn't have as much skill as Floyd. I think Connor was a boxer too before mma if I'm not mistaken. It's just that Floyd is so damn good at what he does. His ring generalship is off the charts.
Holly Holm's headkick was pretty badass
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Yeah but the rest of the fight was pretty damn MEEEEEE. Imagine if that fight went 5 rounds to a decision...
She needed that win. I felt like that would have been her last fight in a long time if she lost.I think that was a horrible stoppage. Kolvaev was definitely hurt butt those last 3 shots were pretty low.
I know this is probably the wrong thread but what do people think of the Andre Ward fight?
Predictionwow what a unique perspective that every single human being on earth hasn't been spouting for the last three fucking months
Conor Knocks him out round 1-3 or Floyd wins on points
Thanks Grim!
Don Cheadle and William H. Macy are there too!
It's an unofficial "Boogie Nights" reunion.
floyd kept rolling his back, wtf was that? also rothdigga was the real mvp for hooking up the stream.This.
Official prediction
Connor might win a round our two in the first three by constantly coming forward while Floyd figures out his timing but takes no real damage. Floyd will land pot shots here and there and will focus on the body for a couple rounds. Connor will start to get tired after 5/6 rounds and Floyd will take over. I want to say Floyd cruses to a decision but I think he can stop Connor around 8/9. Ref might wave it off because Connors getting tuned up.
This Saturday! Fuckin stoked haven't been to the LCA yet
Ngannou beats reem
Holloway beats Aldo
Gaethe beats alveraz.
So fuckin excited to see this shit
great fucking event,reem got his head send to Mars!!
damn wee Jose had terrible strategy,why just boxing man?! He has an arsenal of weapons,great low kicks and all the tools, but the fool decides to have a boxing match and shit happened...sad for little guy!
stoked for the next one,but ReeferMad I got my wallet on Cub...if he loses I know you are a damn jinxer!
Lobov tweets a threat to slap Khabib (for some reason),
Khabib GANGs on Lobov with around 10 Dagestani goatfuckers and slaps Lobov, Lobov got bullied some more and that was it...
then Connor GANGs on Bus with some drunk Irish thugs,slaps the Bus,cuts Chiesa and traumatizes Rose Namajunas,while all this time Khabib is hidden behind the back seats!
Connor is angry some more and then he leaves and Nate Diaz is stoned as fuck and enjoying the show,tweeting some more!
Have I missed something??
Well now Holloway is out too. ridiculous. Pettis vs Khabib. awful maulingPettis is out, too.
my balls was hoti understand
"I need to sit my ass down and do some more cardio"Yeah and he better do it quick since they just announcd he's fighting Cormier in a month.
"I need to sit my ass down and do some more cardio"
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I don't think he understands how cardio works.
that main event was insane!yeah thales leites has always been must-see tv ::)
leites vs manuwa was great, and early prelims were all good
So excited for Justin vs Khabib!
Tonight’s fights should be good too, Korean Zombie vs Ortega.
Anyone else have UFC fight pass? Got fights to recommend?
So excited for Justin vs Khabib!
Tonight’s fights should be good too, Korean Zombie vs Ortega.
Anyone else have UFC fight pass? Got fights to recommend?
Zombie oddly wasn’t his self after the spinning elbow from Ortega. Not that brawling fight I was looking for but happy for T City. He should fight Max next before Volk. Seems right to redo that fight before he gets the title shot.
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Tonight’s fights should be good too, Korean Zombie vs Ortega.
Anyone else have UFC fight pass? Got fights to recommend?[close]
Ben Askren v Robbie lawler is my favorite fight ever
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Tonight’s fights should be good too, Korean Zombie vs Ortega.
Anyone else have UFC fight pass? Got fights to recommend?[close]
Ben Askren v Robbie lawler is my favorite fight ever
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSo excited for Justin vs Khabib!
Tonight’s fights should be good too, Korean Zombie vs Ortega.
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Ben Askren v Robbie lawler is my favorite fight ever[close]
Lawler vs McDonald 2 FTW.
Gaethje vs Johnson
Wtf the prelims start at 10 am Central US time and the main event is set at 3 pm.
I’m not going to be able to watch, I’ll be at work.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck
I have a video of the last two min of Anderson vs Uriah, if anyone wants to see it, I can message on Instagram.
Spoiler:
I really wanted Anderson to go out with a win.
He was winning the fight, won the first two rounds, was winning the third round until he got dropped during the last ten seconds. Then the next round Uriah put it down. Uriah has some great power but I don’t think he will every be champ.
I am a huge Max fan but I just have a bad feeling about this one. And if he does lose, it will be forever till be gets another title chance.
It's the last day of the year, what do you boys think was the best fight this year. Moreno v Figueredo completely blew my mind. What a fucking brawl
I just saw the face off today on IG and it looks like Max is taller but it seems they are the same height. Katter has a longer reach too but I had no idea he was 32 and Max is 29. I so think the 5 round fight could lead to Max winning in the long run. Hopefully that chin is still solid cause he's never been ko'd before.
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https://streamable.com/hv9ijj
https://clips.clippit.tv/exdykv/360.mp4
Max went to town like Kattar insulted his mother.
Dirty, phenomenal, performance by Max. I bet on Max winning by decision and even I wanted the fight stopped in the 2nd 3rd and 4th. Kinda glad it wasn’t stopped though cuz the 5th was truly legendary.
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Make some good money on that?
Poirier vs Mcgregor rematch should be a banger. Poirier has improved so much since that loss and even went 5 rounds with Holloway for the interim belt, but I have a sneaking suspicion he will get stuck in his head during the rematch.
Has anyone heard that streaming is a felony now and Dana whites threats to people that are gonna stream it? He was saying he's ready for people to stream or something like that. I'm kinda concerned about it but don't know if I should be
Has anyone heard that streaming is a felony now and Dana whites threats to people that are gonna stream it? He was saying he's ready for people to stream or something like that. I'm kinda concerned about it but don't know if I should beI think he was threatening the person that is running the stream. He said they know who one of them are, and will prosecute if they stream the fight for others to watch. Not sure if it's a scare tactic or the truth.
Is it just me, or is ordering a PPV much more difficult now? You have to subscribe to a service before you even get the chance to order the PPV??
where and how can i stream the mcgregor v porier fight
where and how can i stream the mcgregor v porier fightI'm gonna try sportsurge.net and crackstreams.net
Conor looked gassed again and just couldn’t take Dustin’s flurry of punches. He got paid $5M though for minutes of fighting.
Chandler , wow! That's power.
Good on Dustin, that won me 2840.
Odds makers really fucked that one up!
That too. He didn’t even check those leg kicks at all.Expand QuoteConor looked gassed again and just couldn’t take Dustin’s flurry of punches. He got paid $5M though for minutes of fighting.[close]
Dustin vs Justin 2 would be dope. Or Oliveria.
That acl kick got em more than gassing IMO.
Expand QuoteThat too. He didn’t even check those leg kicks at all.Expand QuoteConor looked gassed again and just couldn’t take Dustin’s flurry of punches. He got paid $5M though for minutes of fighting.[close]
Dustin vs Justin 2 would be dope. Or Oliveria.
That acl kick got em more than gassing IMO.[close]
It's gotta be dusty v Chandler right?
Chandler , wow! That's power.
Good on Dustin, that won me 2840.
Odds makers really fucked that one up!
Expand QuoteChandler , wow! That's power.
Good on Dustin, that won me 2840.
Odds makers really fucked that one up![close]
wow how much did you put in?
Expand QuoteIt's gotta be dusty v Chandler right?[close]
I'd think so, but this division is fucked with how stacked it is. Does hooker fight tony now? Who the fuck does connor fight, diaz,.
Honestly I think chandler should be fighting gaethje next, winner fights dustin
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteChandler , wow! That's power.
Good on Dustin, that won me 2840.
Odds makers really fucked that one up![close]
wow how much did you put in?[close]
I'm drunk right now so I'm not 100% sure, but it was around the $700 mark when connor was at 450(I think), might have been 350
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteChandler , wow! That's power.
Good on Dustin, that won me 2840.
Odds makers really fucked that one up![close]
wow how much did you put in?[close]
I'm drunk right now so I'm not 100% sure, but it was around the $700 mark when connor was at 450(I think), might have been 350
It's gotta be dusty v Chandler right?poirer said he doesn’t care for that fight, that chandler needs to take down a few bigger names before they go head to head. also said that if that is the fight that everyone demands he’ll “just go back to louisiana and keep making hot sauce” which i thought was awesome.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteChandler , wow! That's power.
Good on Dustin, that won me 2840.
Odds makers really fucked that one up![close]
wow how much did you put in?[close]
I'm drunk right now so I'm not 100% sure, but it was around the $700 mark when connor was at 450(I think), might have been 350[close]
Good for you! What betting site did you use? I was close to putting some money down at one point, then had trouble because the betting site was outside the US with my bank transfer. Then read the fine print and learned that you need to put $2000 of your own money in before they let you take out any of your winnings.
Also insane that they had Chandler as the underdog against Hooker.
One of the best UFC nights since UFC 251 for sure, was not prepared to see Conor go down like that.
poirer said he doesn’t care for that fight, that chandler needs to take down a few bigger names before they go head to head. also said that if that is the fight that everyone demands he’ll “just go back to louisiana and keep making hot sauce” which i thought was awesome.Expand QuoteIt's gotta be dusty v Chandler right?[close]
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteChandler , wow! That's power.
Good on Dustin, that won me 2840.
Odds makers really fucked that one up![close]
wow how much did you put in?[close]
I'm drunk right now so I'm not 100% sure, but it was around the $700 mark when connor was at 450(I think), might have been 350[close]
Good for you! What betting site did you use? I was close to putting some money down at one point, then had trouble because the betting site was outside the US with my bank transfer. Then read the fine print and learned that you need to put $2000 of your own money in before they let you take out any of your winnings.
Also insane that they had Chandler as the underdog against Hooker.
One of the best UFC nights since UFC 251 for sure, was not prepared to see Conor go down like that.[close]
I'm not big on sports betting. I used the site most the fighters promote on IG and they match your first bet. I put down 350 on 4 fights in ufc 251 and won. So that's the money I used on 257. At least now I can withdraw my money. That was pretty shitty at the time when I found out I couldnt withdraw my winnings at the time, but now it's fine. I wouldnt use the codes again however, fuck that shit.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteChandler , wow! That's power.
Good on Dustin, that won me 2840.
Odds makers really fucked that one up![close]
wow how much did you put in?[close]
I'm drunk right now so I'm not 100% sure, but it was around the $700 mark when connor was at 450(I think), might have been 350[close]
Good for you! What betting site did you use? I was close to putting some money down at one point, then had trouble because the betting site was outside the US with my bank transfer. Then read the fine print and learned that you need to put $2000 of your own money in before they let you take out any of your winnings.
Also insane that they had Chandler as the underdog against Hooker.
One of the best UFC nights since UFC 251 for sure, was not prepared to see Conor go down like that.[close]
I'm not big on sports betting. I used the site most the fighters promote on IG and they match your first bet. I put down 350 on 4 fights in ufc 251 and won. So that's the money I used on 257. At least now I can withdraw my money. That was pretty shitty at the time when I found out I couldnt withdraw my winnings at the time, but now it's fine. I wouldnt use the codes again however, fuck that shit.[close]
Cool it worked out for you. I got cold feet at the time and deleted my betting account after they kept calling me for days to transfer money in.
Some bangers ahead this Spring in UFC, title fights for Usman, Miocic and Volkanovski
UFC 261 announced! Masvidal vs Usman 2 in Jacksonville, Florida. Full capacity crowd of $15,000. Rose Namajunas also fighting for a title.
What do you all think?
https://www.mmamania.com/2021/3/15/22333043/ufc-kamaru-usman-jorge-masvidal-2-headlines-ufc-261-april-24-fans-allowed-to-attend-espn-mma
UFC 261 announced! Masvidal vs Usman 2 in Jacksonville, Florida. Full capacity crowd of $15,000. Rose Namajunas also fighting for a title.I don’t think JM will beat KU. People say JM lost because he only had a week notice but other people have reported that he was already training really hard during that time but of course he will make adjustments from their first fight but I think KU takes it.
What do you all think?
https://www.mmamania.com/2021/3/15/22333043/ufc-kamaru-usman-jorge-masvidal-2-headlines-ufc-261-april-24-fans-allowed-to-attend-espn-mma
I don’t think JM will beat KU. People say JM lost because he only had a week notice but other people have reported that he was already training really hard during that time but of course he will make adjustments from their first fight but I think KU takes it.
My bet is on usman, hes just flat out better .JM is a wildcard
The best thing about UFC is no one is above getting their ass whooped. I’ve done MMA math on previous fights and always never get it right and that’s the best thing about it. You just never know. There has to be an upset tomorrow. I am thinking if anyone can do it, it will be Rose....but watch it be Jessica Andrade.
Woke up to learn they were giving Vettori a title shot over Whittaker.
Such fuckery.
Expand QuoteWoke up to learn they were giving Vettori a title shot over Whittaker.
Such fuckery.[close]
Yeah. I kind of don’t get that but I guess they want that fight sooner than I assume Whittaker can fight Izzy. Either way, he gets next match for sure and perhaps back in Australia.
Maybe Izzy wanted Vottori over Rob since he has already fought rob and thinks vitorri will be an easy night out and then he can fight rob next.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWoke up to learn they were giving Vettori a title shot over Whittaker.
Such fuckery.[close]
Yeah. I kind of don’t get that but I guess they want that fight sooner than I assume Whittaker can fight Izzy. Either way, he gets next match for sure and perhaps back in Australia.[close]
Espn said that Rob wanted to make sure he didn't have any lingering injuries from the Kelvin fight and couldn't make the turnaround, however...
(https://i.ibb.co/5XD7ykb/6-D89-A8-AF-7-B10-495-D-A7-E3-0-FB70-E422845.jpg)
What a brutal night. Gotta feel for Weidman. Usman is quickly clearing that division out. I'm really excited to see this new scary Kamaru beat the brakes off that clown Colby and send his ass crying back to flurida
Expand QuoteWhat a brutal night. Gotta feel for Weidman. Usman is quickly clearing that division out. I'm really excited to see this new scary Kamaru beat the brakes off that clown Colby and send his ass crying back to flurida[close]
Had to swap channels after seeing the leg break, MMA is full is bitter irony.
Last night was nuts, from the early prelims to the main card.
Sucks for Jimmy Crute and Weidman, hope they heal up fast. Can’t help but feel this is it for Weidman, he’s taken a ton of big damage lately, he’s not getting any younger and I highly doubt he’s going to get any better. Also, throwing a lazy low kick against a seasoned striker like Uriah Hall was a terrible idea.
Usman keeps getting better and better; teaming up with Trevor Whittman to work on his striking was the best decision possible. I don’t see any current 170er’s beating him, dude’s straight-up scary now. If he beats Colby it’ll probably be Leon Edwards or Burns again, and I don’t see either guy beating him.
Fun night.
(Sorry for the wall of text, it’s raining, I’m stoned and I’m bored.)
This was a special night for the UFC! You could tell that everyone was psyched to be there, from fighters to refs to commentators.
I was most stoked for Rose and hoped she would win back the title. The head kick was so amazing, let's not forget that Zhang was undefeated for 21 fights in a row!
Valentina dominated, there was one point when Andrade tried to take her down and she just wouldn't budge. It went downhill fast from there.
And Usman, wow! Wanted to see Masvidal do some damage but can't dislike Usman. Like folks on here said, he keeps getting better and better. He deals with all the hate and is a class act, does a lot of outreach. Great champion and role model. He can hold down this division Khabib style for a long time, don't see anyone giving him any trouble for now. (And hope they don't have him do a Covington rematch, please).
Also, who do you have for Chandler vs. Oliveira at UFC 262?
Expand QuoteThis was a special night for the UFC! You could tell that everyone was psyched to be there, from fighters to refs to commentators.
I was most stoked for Rose and hoped she would win back the title. The head kick was so amazing, let's not forget that Zhang was undefeated for 21 fights in a row!
Valentina dominated, there was one point when Andrade tried to take her down and she just wouldn't budge. It went downhill fast from there.
And Usman, wow! Wanted to see Masvidal do some damage but can't dislike Usman. Like folks on here said, he keeps getting better and better. He deals with all the hate and is a class act, does a lot of outreach. Great champion and role model. He can hold down this division Khabib style for a long time, don't see anyone giving him any trouble for now. (And hope they don't have him do a Covington rematch, please).
Also, who do you have for Chandler vs. Oliveira at UFC 262?[close]
I hope Chandler doesn't win. He just got in the UFC and he's fighting for the title which is so odd. But I will say Chandler is the better name to sell for either Connor or Porier to fight him next. Oliveira is a great fighter but most casual fans won't care if he wins.
Sucks how the Dillashaw vs Sandhagen fight is cancelled. Was looking forward to that one.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThis was a special night for the UFC! You could tell that everyone was psyched to be there, from fighters to refs to commentators.
I was most stoked for Rose and hoped she would win back the title. The head kick was so amazing, let's not forget that Zhang was undefeated for 21 fights in a row!
Valentina dominated, there was one point when Andrade tried to take her down and she just wouldn't budge. It went downhill fast from there.
And Usman, wow! Wanted to see Masvidal do some damage but can't dislike Usman. Like folks on here said, he keeps getting better and better. He deals with all the hate and is a class act, does a lot of outreach. Great champion and role model. He can hold down this division Khabib style for a long time, don't see anyone giving him any trouble for now. (And hope they don't have him do a Covington rematch, please).
Also, who do you have for Chandler vs. Oliveira at UFC 262?[close]
I hope Chandler doesn't win. He just got in the UFC and he's fighting for the title which is so odd. But I will say Chandler is the better name to sell for either Connor or Porier to fight him next. Oliveira is a great fighter but most casual fans won't care if he wins.
Sucks how the Dillashaw vs Sandhagen fight is cancelled. Was looking forward to that one.[close]
Super bummed on dilly v sandy. Was really looking forward to that
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThis was a special night for the UFC! You could tell that everyone was psyched to be there, from fighters to refs to commentators.
I was most stoked for Rose and hoped she would win back the title. The head kick was so amazing, let's not forget that Zhang was undefeated for 21 fights in a row!
Valentina dominated, there was one point when Andrade tried to take her down and she just wouldn't budge. It went downhill fast from there.
And Usman, wow! Wanted to see Masvidal do some damage but can't dislike Usman. Like folks on here said, he keeps getting better and better. He deals with all the hate and is a class act, does a lot of outreach. Great champion and role model. He can hold down this division Khabib style for a long time, don't see anyone giving him any trouble for now. (And hope they don't have him do a Covington rematch, please).
Also, who do you have for Chandler vs. Oliveira at UFC 262?[close]
I hope Chandler doesn't win. He just got in the UFC and he's fighting for the title which is so odd. But I will say Chandler is the better name to sell for either Connor or Porier to fight him next. Oliveira is a great fighter but most casual fans won't care if he wins.
Sucks how the Dillashaw vs Sandhagen fight is cancelled. Was looking forward to that one.[close]
Super bummed on dilly v sandy. Was really looking forward to that[close]
The Dillashaw that destory Renan Barao to win the belt looked unstoppable, the future of the MMA type of fighter. That was in May 2014, 7 years ago.
Sandhagen has been looking good too, interested to see how a Dillashaw handles a lanky fighter.
What do you guys think of jiri smoking every balding dude at lhw
For those of you who missed Bellator last night, this is one of the worst nose breaks I’ve ever seen.
https://streamable.com/imdt4i
Expand QuoteFor those of you who missed Bellator last night, this is one of the worst nose breaks I’ve ever seen.
https://streamable.com/imdt4i[close]
Bellator loves matching MVP up with cans so he can crush them. Craved Cyborg's skull in a few years ago with a flying knee.
I just woke from a nap to see the Cowboy fight.
Man I wanted him to win.
Expand QuoteI just woke from a nap to see the Cowboy fight.
Man I wanted him to win.[close]
Cowboy needs to hang up the gloves. He just got beat by a guy on a weeks’ notice who only trained one day for this fight. He’s 0-5-1 in his last six.
Fighters so rarely know when to hang it upPrime example: BJ Penn.
Hey, UFC 262 Chandler vs. Oliveira... who do you have?
Chandler is a pitbull, I think he has this!
Worried about Ferguson though. He needs a win!
I want Tony and Charles to win, but I think chandler is going to beat Charles. And Ben is going to beat Tony.
Last week I felt like a typical toxic male watching the main event, all I could think about was how hot Michelle Waterson is during that fight.
Expand QuoteI want Tony and Charles to win, but I think chandler is going to beat Charles. And Ben is going to beat Tony.
Last week I felt like a typical toxic male watching the main event, all I could think about was how hot Michelle Waterson is during that fight.[close]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgShlvwS3U8&ab_channel=UFC-UltimateFightingChampionship
Love the finish on Vick and the post victory roar, definitely felt hat primal rage when I used to do amateur kickboxing fights.
I want Tony and Charles to win, but I think chandler is going to beat Charles. And Ben is going to beat Tony.It's toxic to be attracted to someone?
Last week I felt like a typical toxic male watching the main event, all I could think about was how hot Michelle Waterson is during that fight.
Lol idk I guess not.It's toxic to be attracted to someone?Expand QuoteI want Tony and Charles to win, but I think chandler is going to beat Charles. And Ben is going to beat Tony.
Last week I felt like a typical toxic male watching the main event, all I could think about was how hot Michelle Waterson is during that fight.[close]
Holt shit Burgos vs Barboza was good.Yeah that was great and the ending was wild.
Holt shit Burgos vs Barboza was good.That was wild!
HOLY FUUUUUCKI was watching alone, and I still gave a standing ovation!
My wife started to get mad at my reaction during the end of Charles vs Chandler.
I have literally never yelled out like this from watching a fight before.
OMFG YES CHARLES!!!!!!
I was watching alone, and I still gave a standing ovation!Expand QuoteHOLY FUUUUUCK
My wife started to get mad at my reaction during the end of Charles vs Chandler.
I have literally never yelled out like this from watching a fight before.
OMFG YES CHARLES!!!!!![close]
Feeling conflicted about Ferguson vs Daruish, Tony couldn't get anything going and his knee and ankle are fucked. Amazing how fast the fights caught to him, he looked terrible last night.
Yeah that Gaethje fight took a lot out of him. It was creepy when he was getting lit up and he started shaking his head. Almost to try and shake off the head trauma. That was rough to watch.Expand QuoteFeeling conflicted about Ferguson vs Daruish, Tony couldn't get anything going and his knee and ankle are fucked. Amazing how fast the fights caught to him, he looked terrible last night.[close]
The kind of damage he took in the Gaethje fight is the kind of damage that stays with you. Also, not tapping to that heel hook was dumb, his knee is toast for sure.
Plus dude is on the wrong side of 37 in the most competitive division, hate to say it as a fan, but his time is over. He’s good at being crazy, tough and catching people with subs, but his grappling fundamentals are piss-poor, there was no way he was out-grappling Dariush, a 3rd degree Romulo Barral black belt. Not saying it was a fun or a good fight, it was a grapplefuck of the highest order.
Imagine what Khabib would have done to him.
Yeah that Gaethje fight took a lot out of him. It was creepy when he was getting lit up and he started shaking his head. Almost to try and shake off the head trauma. That was rough to watch.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteFeeling conflicted about Ferguson vs Daruish, Tony couldn't get anything going and his knee and ankle are fucked. Amazing how fast the fights caught to him, he looked terrible last night.[close]
The kind of damage he took in the Gaethje fight is the kind of damage that stays with you. Also, not tapping to that heel hook was dumb, his knee is toast for sure.
Plus dude is on the wrong side of 37 in the most competitive division, hate to say it as a fan, but his time is over. He’s good at being crazy, tough and catching people with subs, but his grappling fundamentals are piss-poor, there was no way he was out-grappling Dariush, a 3rd degree Romulo Barral black belt. Not saying it was a fun or a good fight, it was a grapplefuck of the highest order.
Imagine what Khabib would have done to him.[close]
Eddy Bravo is always raving about how insanely good Tony is at grappling, and how he would hold his own against Khabib on the ground. I think Khabib would have just mauled him(no surprise), but I still would have loved to see that fight before Tony took all the damage.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/nypawe/spoiler_main_event_fighter_squeezing/
Laughed way too hard at this.
I had no idea Luke Rockhold skates
https://www.instagram.com/p/CQq4FzQD4yu/?utm_medium=copy_link
Expand QuoteI had no idea Luke Rockhold skates
https://www.instagram.com/p/CQq4FzQD4yu/?utm_medium=copy_link[close]
Insanely good looking with zero idea what to do with his hands; not from a striking perspective but I'm thinking of a clip with him in the cage celebrating DC's win and he's hands are unnaturally placed. He's been knocked out badly in all of his last 3 losses, I've taken to call him Luke Outcold; tragic considering there was a point he was considered the future of the middleweight division.
Those photos are pretty rad. Had no idea Luke skates as well. Too bad he isn't back to where he was cause no coach in their right mind would let him skate and possibly hurt himself but since he's been on a losing streak, who cares I guess.
Here is a clip of him.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CQmSn_ZFU-B/
Expand QuoteThose photos are pretty rad. Had no idea Luke skates as well. Too bad he isn't back to where he was cause no coach in their right mind would let him skate and possibly hurt himself but since he's been on a losing streak, who cares I guess.
Here is a clip of him.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CQmSn_ZFU-B/[close]
The color of his shorts matched his skin tone perfectly, thought he was skating naked.
It's a shame he didn't have a longer run as champion and his decline was so steep. His run after the Vitor Belfort KO was fun, murdering dudes with his left kick and BJJ.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThose photos are pretty rad. Had no idea Luke skates as well. Too bad he isn't back to where he was cause no coach in their right mind would let him skate and possibly hurt himself but since he's been on a losing streak, who cares I guess.
Here is a clip of him.[close]
The color of his shorts matched his skin tone perfectly, thought he was skating naked.
It's a shame he didn't have a longer run as champion and his decline was so steep. His run after the Vitor Belfort KO was fun, murdering dudes with his left kick and BJJ.[close]
I did not dig his whole vibe. He acted super arrogant and treated dangerous competition as beneath him. As a result he got smoked by Bisping, Yoel and Jan. The stuff he said about Jan after moving to lhw, about how "i don't lose to people like Jan" made him getting absolutely cracked that much more satisfying
Lookin' for dusty to take it home, but if Mac gets it I won't be mad. Even though they both got finished by Habib, I think dustin (out of all of Habib's last handful of challengers) had him in the most trouble with that guillotine and maybe a punch if I remember right.
I luv Leon Edwards, I hope he gets the title shot. It felt bogus that Nate could get dominated the whole time then have it all reversed with one good punch. I like Nate, but man he did not look comfortable and was getting pieced up easy. It'd be a shame if they just gave the shot to the winner of Burns/Wonderboy. It feels more arbitrary to say that Leon needs to over perform and jump through hoops to get the shot, when he rightfully deserves it by now.
The Pre-lims look great as well!
HOLY SHIT Topuria survived the hall knee death onslaught to get the KOThat was wild, Ryan woke up and asked the ref what happened and you could hear the ref telling him, you got caught.
Any of you watching these prelims, that dricus du plessis KO was pretty crazy because Giles had him hurt right before he got hit with the counterYeah that was a good KO, I was telling my wife about how gilies has his hands down because he thinks he can slip every punch but that’s not a smart thing to do and his left hand was down for that KO.
For how much training and whatnot goes into this, I feel like he needs to be thoroughly checked out. Breaking your ankle taking a step backwards at that age and in that shape seems strange unless there is some underlying pathology.
you know what, i’m bummed on my 100 dollars lost, bummed for him to take a loss, bummed i paid 70 bucks for this shit but, what bums me out most is to hear people talking shit about a dude who has done it fucking all. it’s not just talking shit and cashing checks, the dude knocked out a champion in fucking 12 seconds right? with one punch. first dude to ever hold two belts at once. dude is a legend. he mistepped, kinda how we do when we roll our ankle skating or break an elbow except, this is the first time for him. professional skateboards misjudge and break bones all the fucking time, is fighting professionally not equally as dangerous? come the fuck on. it’s so lame when people jock someone so hard and then just call them old news when they lose especially in that way, he just took over 20 shots to the head pinned on the ground, got back on his feet and threw a heavy blow and miscalculated stepping back to keep sparring. shut the fuck up with this washed up old news bullshit like any of you guys ever even box. give him a fucking break.... get it :-*
Expand Quoteyou know what, i’m bummed on my 100 dollars lost, bummed for him to take a loss, bummed i paid 70 bucks for this shit but, what bums me out most is to hear people talking shit about a dude who has done it fucking all. it’s not just talking shit and cashing checks, the dude knocked out a champion in fucking 12 seconds right? with one punch. first dude to ever hold two belts at once. dude is a legend. he mistepped, kinda how we do when we roll our ankle skating or break an elbow except, this is the first time for him. professional skateboards misjudge and break bones all the fucking time, is fighting professionally not equally as dangerous? come the fuck on. it’s so lame when people jock someone so hard and then just call them old news when they lose especially in that way, he just took over 20 shots to the head pinned on the ground, got back on his feet and threw a heavy blow and miscalculated stepping back to keep sparring. shut the fuck up with this washed up old news bullshit like any of you guys ever even box. give him a fucking break.... get it :-*[close]
I see what you are saying. He‘s definitely a legend. However, when you act the way he does a lot of people are going to be happy when you fall down.
He was an exciting fighter and he‘s an electric personality, but he‘s also been a big asshole. His public persona is pretty much the opposite of what is being taught in all martial arts disciplines. I think he has long missed his chance to leave the sport in a classy way.
you know what, i’m bummed on my 100 dollars lost, bummed for him to take a loss, bummed i paid 70 bucks for this shit but, what bums me out most is to hear people talking shit about a dude who has done it fucking all. it’s not just talking shit and cashing checks, the dude knocked out a champion in fucking 12 seconds right? with one punch. first dude to ever hold two belts at once. dude is a legend. he mistepped, kinda how we do when we roll our ankle skating or break an elbow except, this is the first time for him. professional skateboards misjudge and break bones all the fucking time, is fighting professionally not equally as dangerous? come the fuck on. it’s so lame when people jock someone so hard and then just call them old news when they lose especially in that way, he just took over 20 shots to the head pinned on the ground, got back on his feet and threw a heavy blow and miscalculated stepping back to keep sparring. shut the fuck up with this washed up old news bullshit like any of you guys ever even box. give him a fucking break.... get it :-*
It was a good run Conor. Time to pack it up.
Connor vs Nate 3 is still a money fight for both of them. I think considering both have been losing, it'd be a perfect fight to the end of their careers.
yeah i had had a few and kept hearing people talk shit on his career all night after the loss so i was being sour ha. i agree. his antics used to be entertaining but it did become distasteful with the khabib stuff and all the porier shit talk was fuckin weak like he said himself. also like he said, it seemed like conor was nervous and was trying to be old conor with mind games and shit talk and it just didn’t work or feel the same. the peahead shit, some of the nate diaz shit talk, that stuff was entertaining, this new shit about porier’s wife or khabib’s religion is just trashy shit that applies to white trash people which there are a lot of white trash ufc fans so it does apply. i just mean his career was very impressive for a long time and it sucks that his mouth and his recent losses are seeming to tarnish his accomplishments but, that’s life honestly. i really am just bitter that there wasn’t a real fight. even if porier knocked him out in round 2 again, at least it would be a legit win and it would be a fair way of saying “okay this guy is the better fighter” at least as of right now. just a bummer of a loss.Expand QuoteExpand Quoteyou know what, i’m bummed on my 100 dollars lost, bummed for him to take a loss, bummed i paid 70 bucks for this shit but, what bums me out most is to hear people talking shit about a dude who has done it fucking all. it’s not just talking shit and cashing checks, the dude knocked out a champion in fucking 12 seconds right? with one punch. first dude to ever hold two belts at once. dude is a legend. he mistepped, kinda how we do when we roll our ankle skating or break an elbow except, this is the first time for him. professional skateboards misjudge and break bones all the fucking time, is fighting professionally not equally as dangerous? come the fuck on. it’s so lame when people jock someone so hard and then just call them old news when they lose especially in that way, he just took over 20 shots to the head pinned on the ground, got back on his feet and threw a heavy blow and miscalculated stepping back to keep sparring. shut the fuck up with this washed up old news bullshit like any of you guys ever even box. give him a fucking break.... get it :-*[close]
I see what you are saying. He‘s definitely a legend. However, when you act the way he does a lot of people are going to be happy when you fall down.
He was an exciting fighter and he‘s an electric personality, but he‘s also been a big asshole. His public persona is pretty much the opposite of what is being taught in all martial arts disciplines. I think he has long missed his chance to leave the sport in a classy way.[close]
Agreed. I was a huge fan of Conor, his run to the double titles was a magical thing. However, since then he's become a Jon Jones level of asshole. His shtick isn't funny anymore, the shit he's was saying about Khabib and about Islam was super gross and his whole thing about "Jolie's wife" isn't funny, is super misogynistic and just isn't good trash talk. His run to the title was an incredible moment but honestly, when Dustin KO'd him in the second fight was probably the most happy I've been watching a fight. Respect for what came before, but no respect for the cheap, nasty scumbag he's become.
Connor vs Nate 3 is still a money fight for both of them. I think considering both have been losing, it'd be a perfect fight to the end of their careers.
Conor posted a video when he got out of surgery which seems like he's wanting to recover and fight again. Dustin also said that he would fight him again in the future because of the disrespectful shit Conor was saying. Dustin knows that he will make a ton of cash fighting someone that he's confident he can keep beating. I know Diaz is probably foaming at the mouth right now to get a fight with Conor.Expand QuoteConnor vs Nate 3 is still a money fight for both of them. I think considering both have been losing, it'd be a perfect fight to the end of their careers.[close]
You just saw the end to Connor's career.
Conor posted a video when he got out of surgery which seems like he's wanting to recover and fight again. Dustin also said that he would fight him again in the future because of the disrespectful shit Conor was saying. Dustin knows that he will make a ton of cash fighting someone that he's confident he can keep beating. I know Diaz is probably foaming at the mouth right now to get a fight with Conor.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteConnor vs Nate 3 is still a money fight for both of them. I think considering both have been losing, it'd be a perfect fight to the end of their careers.[close]
You just saw the end to Connor's career.[close]
Well it’s his fighting career until he retires. I believe he should retire personally. He had the perfect storm when he came into the UFC; the talk, and the fights with the right opponents. At this point his mind games don’t work anymore and he has stooped to low level insults. His fighting hasn’t evolved at the same level as his opponents. He has his family, his health, and his wealth.
Gaethje or Ferg seem like good opponents once he completes his recovery. Guaranteed violence and one of them beating Conor puts them back in the mix for the title, which I'm sure they want
Expand QuoteGaethje or Ferg seem like good opponents once he completes his recovery. Guaranteed violence and one of them beating Conor puts them back in the mix for the title, which I'm sure they want[close]
Gaethje yes, he would have murdered the version of Mcgregor who turned up for the last 2 Poirier fights.
Ferg no, his last fight was a tough watch as a long time fan.
Chandler had been saying he thinks he could beat Khabib, he should fight Islam and if he wins, he can at least prove he has an answer for Sambo style.
Khabib is def a harder fight that Islam but I think if he could beat Islam, that would be a big step.
I’d want to see that more than Chandler vs. Justin.
I scored that having Cory winning, but I wouldn't call that a robbery. That was close.
I'd almost argue that anyone who still supports this dude is a piece of shit as well.
https://www.mmamania.com/2021/7/27/22595891/ufc-conor-mcgregor-suggests-covid-good-because-it-killed-khabibs-evil-father-mma
Expand QuoteI'd almost argue that anyone who still supports this dude is a piece of shit as well.
https://www.mmamania.com/2021/7/27/22595891/ufc-conor-mcgregor-suggests-covid-good-because-it-killed-khabibs-evil-father-mma[close]
I'm so sick of his shit. Talking shit after you got completely ragdolled and crushed by khabib is already lame, but continuing to take these shots after he got RINSED by dusty the second time and then snapping your leg in the third is just pathetic. Dusty 4 is going to be very satisfying when he tunes his shit like a piano
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI'd almost argue that anyone who still supports this dude is a piece of shit as well.
https://www.mmamania.com/2021/7/27/22595891/ufc-conor-mcgregor-suggests-covid-good-because-it-killed-khabibs-evil-father-mma[close]
I'm so sick of his shit. Talking shit after you got completely ragdolled and crushed by khabib is already lame, but continuing to take these shots after he got RINSED by dusty the second time and then snapping your leg in the third is just pathetic. Dusty 4 is going to be very satisfying when he tunes his shit like a piano[close]
I recently stumbled across a podcast, sort of conspiracy type one, where they looked into connor’s past and recent history. Some of the shit they were saying is insane. Multiple ongoing rape allegations agents him as recent as summer 2020. Other shit I can’t remember. Also can’t remember the podcast name. I’ll have a look through my phone.
Anyone watch Sean Vs Uriah last night?
As soon as the fight started I was thinking Uriah did not look well. By the end of the first round I felt like he looked like he could pass out at any moment.
I was rooting for Uriah but good performance by Sean.
The whole fight Uriah just looked like he didn’t want to be there. Bummer to have to fight and then lose on your birthday.
So do we think Patricio is ever gonna make it to the UFC after getting smoked by McKee almost immediately?
Bellator had a very good card last night.Expand QuoteSo do we think Patricio is ever gonna make it to the UFC after getting smoked by McKee almost immediately?[close]
Anyone watching this weekends card?
Ortega > Volk (So Max can beat Ortega to get his belt back)
Valentina > Murphy
Diaz > Lawler
Expand QuoteAnyone watching this weekends card?
Ortega > Volk (So Max can beat Ortega to get his belt back)
Valentina > Murphy
Diaz > Lawler[close]
I want to, but I'm gonna be at the Hollywood bowl. I'll be watching the results with great interest. What's your thoughts on nick trying to change the weight of the fight during cutting? I kind of hope robbie smokes him
Nick Diaz looked super washed. Very slow and just out of shape.
This card isn’t living up to anything but hopefully the Volk vs Ortega fight ends with a bang.
Time to bump this thread for the absolutely insane UFC 268 Usman Vs. Covington 2 card this weekend.
Who do you have?
Not a fan they're making Rose defend her title so soon but otherwise amazing card!
Time to bump this thread for the absolutely insane UFC 268 Usman Vs. Covington 2 card this weekend.
Who do you have?
Not a fan they're making Rose defend her title so soon but otherwise amazing card!
Expand QuoteTime to bump this thread for the absolutely insane UFC 268 Usman Vs. Covington 2 card this weekend.
Who do you have?
Not a fan they're making Rose defend her title so soon but otherwise amazing card![close]
Gaethje and Chandler fight should be fun. Hopfully Chandler just stands up and bangs but I feel like his wrestling should be the key to winning that fight.
Expand QuoteNot a fan they're making Rose defend her title so soon but otherwise amazing card![close]
I mean it's the fight to make. Zhang could have fought Carla Exparza but no one wants to see that fight. If Rose takes out Zhang, then I hope Carla gets the next title shot just cause she beat Rose in the past. If Zhang wins, I think they'll just do the trilogy.
That Chris Barnett KO was completely insane. I was watching it like huh he probably needs to push back he's getting tagged and on the back foot and then he hit us with the best big boy head kick I've ever seen. Instant fan of this dude
Yooo, who watched Max vs Yair? Absolute insanity how UFC just keeps delivering one amazing fight after another.
Link to fight(click on "part 3" for Max vs Yair): https://watchwrestling.ai/watch-ufc-fight-night-holloway-vs-rodriguez-11-13-21/
UFC 269 closes out a banger year in the UFC tomorrow night!
The title fight Charles Oliveira vs Dustin Poirier is going to be nuts. Honestly have no clue what to expect. Dustin has worked hard and put in the time and progression for this one, I can see him take it.
Also in the win column are O'Malley and Cruz. And I can see Nunes defend her belt.
Who have you got?
UFC 269 closes out a banger year in the UFC tomorrow night!
The title fight Charles Oliveira vs Dustin Poirier is going to be nuts. Honestly have no clue what to expect. Dustin has worked hard and put in the time and progression for this one, I can see him take it.
Also in the win column are O'Malley and Cruz. And I can see Nunes defend her belt.
Who have you got?
Real good card tonight, boys. Should be lots of fun.
Got weed, a bunch of beer and will be making homemade pizza later on; the perfect Saturday evening.
Expand QuoteReal good card tonight, boys. Should be lots of fun.
Got weed, a bunch of beer and will be making homemade pizza later on; the perfect Saturday evening.[close]
Can i come over
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteReal good card tonight, boys. Should be lots of fun.
Got weed, a bunch of beer and will be making homemade pizza later on; the perfect Saturday evening.[close]
Can i come over[close]
If you can make it across the border, I got a couch for you to crash on.
Jesus, Bam Bam Tuivasa almost killed Augusto Sakai. Hell of a KOYeah that was wild.
Yeah that was wild.Expand QuoteJesus, Bam Bam Tuivasa almost killed Augusto Sakai. Hell of a KO[close]
I was nervous the whole time Dominic was fighting Pedro, especially after the knock downs in round 1. I’m glad Cruz won and he looked great.
Do bronx! Goddamn
Goddamn it sucks to be a Dustin Poirier fan. When he spent the whole of the round in close guard I had a feeling he would fall short again.
Expand QuoteGoddamn it sucks to be a Dustin Poirier fan. When he spent the whole of the round in close guard I had a feeling he would fall short again.[close]
I mean he was kinda fucked if he did anything. Risk having Charles pass his guard and mount him, or force a scramble and have him take his back. No way he’d catch Charles with a triangle or armlock from guard, Charles is too grappling savy, so I think stalling in closed guard was his safest bet.
But yeah, I had a feeling Charles would win after the first round. Sure he ate a lot of shots, but those damn body shots took a lot of wind out of Dustin’s sails, he looked very tired after the first. Sad for Dustin, but still stoked for Do Bronx though. Didn’t want either guy to lose. Sucks that most of my favourite fighters are in the lightweight division.
Oooooh baby I’m slow this morning. Great cards get me hyped and festive, I may or may not have had a few drinkypoo’s and a few spliffs last night. Went to bed and left the lights and TV on, I have no idea what time it was. Just made myself a greasy-ass breakfast and will be doing nothing today.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteGoddamn it sucks to be a Dustin Poirier fan. When he spent the whole of the round in close guard I had a feeling he would fall short again.[close]
I mean he was kinda fucked if he did anything. Risk having Charles pass his guard and mount him, or force a scramble and have him take his back. No way he’d catch Charles with a triangle or armlock from guard, Charles is too grappling savy, so I think stalling in closed guard was his safest bet.
But yeah, I had a feeling Charles would win after the first round. Sure he ate a lot of shots, but those damn body shots took a lot of wind out of Dustin’s sails, he looked very tired after the first. Sad for Dustin, but still stoked for Do Bronx though. Didn’t want either guy to lose. Sucks that most of my favourite fighters are in the lightweight division.
Oooooh baby I’m slow this morning. Great cards get me hyped and festive, I may or may not have had a few drinkypoo’s and a few spliffs last night. Went to bed and left the lights and TV on, I have no idea what time it was. Just made myself a greasy-ass breakfast and will be doing nothing today.[close]
Damn dude you went full Jim Lahey last night on the drinkypoos
what do you all think of this bullshit jake paul is talking now? telling dana he will retire from boxing and fight mazvidal in the octagon if dana raises the fighter pay? seems like another cry for attention, he would die in that octagon.
Expand Quotewhat do you all think of this bullshit jake paul is talking now? telling dana he will retire from boxing and fight mazvidal in the octagon if dana raises the fighter pay? seems like another cry for attention, he would die in that octagon.[close]
Everything they do is for attention but i also think he does care about raising fighter pay and i respect that he's using his media capital to make it an issue
Expand QuoteExpand Quotewhat do you all think of this bullshit jake paul is talking now? telling dana he will retire from boxing and fight mazvidal in the octagon if dana raises the fighter pay? seems like another cry for attention, he would die in that octagon.[close]
Everything they do is for attention but i also think he does care about raising fighter pay and i respect that he's using his media capital to make it an issue[close]
Dana White and the UFC are doing a good job teaching a mostly conservative fan base about the contradictions of capitalism!
It is fairly obvious that Dana couldn’t really raise fighter‘s pay even if he wanted to. When has a business ever really done that voluntarily?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotewhat do you all think of this bullshit jake paul is talking now? telling dana he will retire from boxing and fight mazvidal in the octagon if dana raises the fighter pay? seems like another cry for attention, he would die in that octagon.[close]
Everything they do is for attention but i also think he does care about raising fighter pay and i respect that he's using his media capital to make it an issue[close]
Dana White and the UFC are doing a good job teaching a mostly conservative fan base about the contradictions of capitalism!
It is fairly obvious that Dana couldn’t really raise fighter‘s pay even if he wanted to. When has a business ever really done that voluntarily?[close]
Hate Jake Paul's schtick but a win over Askren and Woodley (twice) is impressive, and everyone is finally becoming aware how poorly combat sports outside of boxing actually pays.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotewhat do you all think of this bullshit jake paul is talking now? telling dana he will retire from boxing and fight mazvidal in the octagon if dana raises the fighter pay? seems like another cry for attention, he would die in that octagon.[close]
Everything they do is for attention but i also think he does care about raising fighter pay and i respect that he's using his media capital to make it an issue[close]
Dana White and the UFC are doing a good job teaching a mostly conservative fan base about the contradictions of capitalism!
It is fairly obvious that Dana couldn’t really raise fighter‘s pay even if he wanted to. When has a business ever really done that voluntarily?[close]
Hate Jake Paul's schtick but a win over Askren and Woodley (twice) is impressive, and everyone is finally becoming aware how poorly combat sports outside of boxing actually pays.[close]
No doubt. His whole angle is very smart as well since Dana White has this blown up egotistical personality who can never be above anything, and since these MMA fighters are not nearly paid enough in their sport for how famous they are.
To go off on a rant here: Insta is full of basic Conor McGregor nut huggers who probably haven't trained a day in the life and look at him like a lifestyle god / entrepreneur-business bro. The most annoying post was someone comparing Conor's shin injury with Weidman and Anderson Silva's injury, all horrific but his leg didn't get the linguine treatment like the other 2 did.
"These 2 fools had to be carried out in a stretcher screaming like a bitch. But not Conor, he's so cool sticking around after the fight and doing the interview."
i mean dana said “feel free to go start your own fight league, it’s really not that hard”. jake has the money. maybe he will do so just to spite dana? dana responded to his claims that he was a coke head saying he would let paul test him for blow for the next 10 years if he can test jake for steroids for the next 2. i honestly would love to see him box usman, he already called it out. he weighs 20 more pounds than him, is an inch taller and has the same reach. let’s see that fight happen and then i will respect the guy. i think he lost that first woodley fight honestly if you watch it over. knockout was impressive but, seemed a little fixed to me at the same time. it’s cool that he wants to pay fighters more and all of that but, his constant shit talk to some of the best fighters out is pretty wild to me. talking about fighting canelo… ;D he’s rushing himself too much and is going to be a highlight very soon if his managers don’t protect him from a raw deal. just my opinion.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotewhat do you all think of this bullshit jake paul is talking now? telling dana he will retire from boxing and fight mazvidal in the octagon if dana raises the fighter pay? seems like another cry for attention, he would die in that octagon.[close]
Everything they do is for attention but i also think he does care about raising fighter pay and i respect that he's using his media capital to make it an issue[close]
Dana White and the UFC are doing a good job teaching a mostly conservative fan base about the contradictions of capitalism!
It is fairly obvious that Dana couldn’t really raise fighter‘s pay even if he wanted to. When has a business ever really done that voluntarily?[close]
Hate Jake Paul's schtick but a win over Askren and Woodley (twice) is impressive, and everyone is finally becoming aware how poorly combat sports outside of boxing actually pays.[close]
No doubt. His whole angle is very smart as well since Dana White has this blown up egotistical personality who can never be above anything, and since these MMA fighters are not nearly paid enough in their sport for how famous they are.
i mean dana said “feel free to go start your own fight league, it’s really not that hard”. jake has the money. maybe he will do so just to spite dana? dana responded to his claims that he was a coke head saying he would let paul test him for blow for the next 10 years if he can test jake for steroids for the next 2. i honestly would love to see him box usman, he already called it out. he weighs 20 more pounds than him, is an inch taller and has the same reach. let’s see that fight happen and then i will respect the guy. i think he lost that first woodley fight honestly if you watch it over. knockout was impressive but, seemed a little fixed to me at the same time. it’s cool that he wants to pay fighters more and all of that but, his constant shit talk to some of the best fighters out is pretty wild to me. talking about fighting canelo… ;D he’s rushing himself too much and is going to be a highlight very soon if his managers don’t protect him from a raw deal. just my opinion.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotewhat do you all think of this bullshit jake paul is talking now? telling dana he will retire from boxing and fight mazvidal in the octagon if dana raises the fighter pay? seems like another cry for attention, he would die in that octagon.[close]
Everything they do is for attention but i also think he does care about raising fighter pay and i respect that he's using his media capital to make it an issue[close]
Dana White and the UFC are doing a good job teaching a mostly conservative fan base about the contradictions of capitalism!
It is fairly obvious that Dana couldn’t really raise fighter‘s pay even if he wanted to. When has a business ever really done that voluntarily?[close]
Hate Jake Paul's schtick but a win over Askren and Woodley (twice) is impressive, and everyone is finally becoming aware how poorly combat sports outside of boxing actually pays.[close]
No doubt. His whole angle is very smart as well since Dana White has this blown up egotistical personality who can never be above anything, and since these MMA fighters are not nearly paid enough in their sport for how famous they are.[close]
on the mcgregor note. if he were (not saying it will happen or anything) to come back, fight olivera for the title (even though gaethje is way more deserving) and win, again… would you guys maybe start to like him a little more again at least as a fighter? all the trashy shit talk and throwing money down the toilet aside, it looks like olivera is more welcoming of a mcgregor fight than gaethje. if it were to happen, i think it would be one of the greatest comebacks especially after losing twice in a row to porier who now just lost to olivera.
i mean dana said “feel free to go start your own fight league, it’s really not that hard”. jake has the money. maybe he will do so just to spite dana? dana responded to his claims that he was a coke head saying he would let paul test him for blow for the next 10 years if he can test jake for steroids for the next 2. i honestly would love to see him box usman, he already called it out. he weighs 20 more pounds than him, is an inch taller and has the same reach. let’s see that fight happen and then i will respect the guy. i think he lost that first woodley fight honestly if you watch it over. knockout was impressive but, seemed a little fixed to me at the same time. it’s cool that he wants to pay fighters more and all of that but, his constant shit talk to some of the best fighters out is pretty wild to me. talking about fighting canelo… ;D he’s rushing himself too much and is going to be a highlight very soon if his managers don’t protect him from a raw deal. just my opinion.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotewhat do you all think of this bullshit jake paul is talking now? telling dana he will retire from boxing and fight mazvidal in the octagon if dana raises the fighter pay? seems like another cry for attention, he would die in that octagon.[close]
Everything they do is for attention but i also think he does care about raising fighter pay and i respect that he's using his media capital to make it an issue[close]
Dana White and the UFC are doing a good job teaching a mostly conservative fan base about the contradictions of capitalism!
It is fairly obvious that Dana couldn’t really raise fighter‘s pay even if he wanted to. When has a business ever really done that voluntarily?[close]
Hate Jake Paul's schtick but a win over Askren and Woodley (twice) is impressive, and everyone is finally becoming aware how poorly combat sports outside of boxing actually pays.[close]
No doubt. His whole angle is very smart as well since Dana White has this blown up egotistical personality who can never be above anything, and since these MMA fighters are not nearly paid enough in their sport for how famous they are.[close]
on the mcgregor note. if he were (not saying it will happen or anything) to come back, fight olivera for the title (even though gaethje is way more deserving) and win, again… would you guys maybe start to like him a little more again at least as a fighter? all the trashy shit talk and throwing money down the toilet aside, it looks like olivera is more welcoming of a mcgregor fight than gaethje. if it were to happen, i think it would be one of the greatest comebacks especially after losing twice in a row to porier who now just lost to olivera.
The thing that sucks about Conor is that he was super exciting to watch rise up. He was actually very clever and witty in press conferences early on which made it funny, and amazing how he would call out what round that he would finish his opponent. But then at some point he just became a straight up asshole, and his shit talking turned to more of a low level insult show. When it comes to his fighting I just think he took too much time off while others like Dustin were grinding out there and putting in work. The game has evolved, but he hasn't evolved with it. I respect him for still going out there and fighting, but he's a delusional prick that is annoying as hell these days. I don't think he deserves a title fight, but the UFC wants the $$$$.
I’ll admit i didn’t mind him during poirier 2. Seemed like he humbled a bit. But that doesn’t sell quite like wcw nwo heel mcgregor…exactly. this is my thing, everyone says it’s him that sold out, has changed, doesn’t take it seriously… does no one maybe think that he changed the game of this sport by his antics and was paid so handsomely and signed to such large deals maybe by the media requiring him to be this character? is it really just this guy is so cocky and money went to his head and all that? maybe he started off purely and we enjoyed it, and he was forced to become this other persona that flaunts gucci and says under the belt shit to get more fame? look at colby covington…
exactly. this is my thing, everyone says it’s him that sold out, has changed, doesn’t take it seriously… does no one maybe think that he changed the game of this sport by his antics and was paid so handsomely and signed to such large deals maybe by the media requiring him to be this character? is it really just this guy is so cocky and money went to his head and all that? maybe he started off purely and we enjoyed it, and he was forced to become this other persona that flaunts gucci and says under the belt shit to get more fame? look at colby covington…Expand QuoteI’ll admit i didn’t mind him during poirier 2. Seemed like he humbled a bit. But that doesn’t sell quite like wcw nwo heel mcgregor…[close]
missing the point. i just said he has been distasteful for a long time. i’m saying, do you really think it’s all him? does colby covington really love donald trump that much and wear nypd hats showing up to a fight because that’s who he really is? or does it sell out madison square garden? could be both but something tells me that it’s not when these guys have only gotten bigger and bigger by being bigger and bigger pieces of shit. think about it. did porier vs mcgregor 2 not seem as exciting as the trilogy because it wasn’t a trilogy, or was it because there wasn’t as much static in the air?Expand Quoteexactly. this is my thing, everyone says it’s him that sold out, has changed, doesn’t take it seriously… does no one maybe think that he changed the game of this sport by his antics and was paid so handsomely and signed to such large deals maybe by the media requiring him to be this character? is it really just this guy is so cocky and money went to his head and all that? maybe he started off purely and we enjoyed it, and he was forced to become this other persona that flaunts gucci and says under the belt shit to get more fame? look at colby covington…Expand QuoteI’ll admit i didn’t mind him during poirier 2. Seemed like he humbled a bit. But that doesn’t sell quite like wcw nwo heel mcgregor…[close][close]
Ya, the tweets about Khabib's dad were marketing genius.
missing the point. i just said he has been distasteful for a long time. i’m saying, do you really think it’s all him? does colby covington really love donald trump that much and wear nypd hats showing up to a fight because that’s who he really is? or does it sell out madison square garden? could be both but something tells me that it’s not when these guys have only gotten bigger and bigger by being bigger and bigger pieces of shit. think about it. did porier vs mcgregor 2 not seem as exciting as the trilogy because it wasn’t a trilogy, or was it because there wasn’t as much static in the air?Expand QuoteExpand Quoteexactly. this is my thing, everyone says it’s him that sold out, has changed, doesn’t take it seriously… does no one maybe think that he changed the game of this sport by his antics and was paid so handsomely and signed to such large deals maybe by the media requiring him to be this character? is it really just this guy is so cocky and money went to his head and all that? maybe he started off purely and we enjoyed it, and he was forced to become this other persona that flaunts gucci and says under the belt shit to get more fame? look at colby covington…Expand QuoteI’ll admit i didn’t mind him during poirier 2. Seemed like he humbled a bit. But that doesn’t sell quite like wcw nwo heel mcgregor…[close][close]
Ya, the tweets about Khabib's dad were marketing genius.[close]
Expand Quotemissing the point. i just said he has been distasteful for a long time. i’m saying, do you really think it’s all him? does colby covington really love donald trump that much and wear nypd hats showing up to a fight because that’s who he really is? or does it sell out madison square garden? could be both but something tells me that it’s not when these guys have only gotten bigger and bigger by being bigger and bigger pieces of shit. think about it. did porier vs mcgregor 2 not seem as exciting as the trilogy because it wasn’t a trilogy, or was it because there wasn’t as much static in the air?Expand QuoteExpand Quoteexactly. this is my thing, everyone says it’s him that sold out, has changed, doesn’t take it seriously… does no one maybe think that he changed the game of this sport by his antics and was paid so handsomely and signed to such large deals maybe by the media requiring him to be this character? is it really just this guy is so cocky and money went to his head and all that? maybe he started off purely and we enjoyed it, and he was forced to become this other persona that flaunts gucci and says under the belt shit to get more fame? look at colby covington…Expand QuoteI’ll admit i didn’t mind him during poirier 2. Seemed like he humbled a bit. But that doesn’t sell quite like wcw nwo heel mcgregor…[close][close]
Ya, the tweets about Khabib's dad were marketing genius.[close][close]
Poirer 2 was so electric because Conor fucked off and did his celebrity shit and then came back and was so thoroughly starched by khabib that he laid fairly low for a while. Then he smoked an old ass cowboy and people thought the old Mac might be back. And after that first round it looked like he was and then dusty figured his timing out and smoked him
Expand QuoteExpand Quotemissing the point. i just said he has been distasteful for a long time. i’m saying, do you really think it’s all him? does colby covington really love donald trump that much and wear nypd hats showing up to a fight because that’s who he really is? or does it sell out madison square garden? could be both but something tells me that it’s not when these guys have only gotten bigger and bigger by being bigger and bigger pieces of shit. think about it. did porier vs mcgregor 2 not seem as exciting as the trilogy because it wasn’t a trilogy, or was it because there wasn’t as much static in the air?Expand QuoteExpand Quoteexactly. this is my thing, everyone says it’s him that sold out, has changed, doesn’t take it seriously… does no one maybe think that he changed the game of this sport by his antics and was paid so handsomely and signed to such large deals maybe by the media requiring him to be this character? is it really just this guy is so cocky and money went to his head and all that? maybe he started off purely and we enjoyed it, and he was forced to become this other persona that flaunts gucci and says under the belt shit to get more fame? look at colby covington…Expand QuoteI’ll admit i didn’t mind him during poirier 2. Seemed like he humbled a bit. But that doesn’t sell quite like wcw nwo heel mcgregor…[close][close]
Ya, the tweets about Khabib's dad were marketing genius.[close][close]
Poirer 2 was so electric because Conor fucked off and did his celebrity shit and then came back and was so thoroughly starched by khabib that he laid fairly low for a while. Then he smoked an old ass cowboy and people thought the old Mac might be back. And after that first round it looked like he was and then dusty figured his timing out and smoked him[close]
Tough to decide which Conor beating I preferred watching:
1) Getting wrestlefucked by Khabib
2) Getting his leg tenderized and KO'd with punches
https://www.facebook.com/UFCAUS/videos/watch-dustin-poirier-knock-out-conor-mcgregor/1132611780563279/
In case you wanted a re-watch
Covington vs Masvidal is official for March 5th at UFC 272
https://twitter.com/bokamotoespn/status/1481011471584677895?s=21
To be fair, I have no idea how Masvidal can win this. Colby won't shoot a sloppy single leg and get Ben Askren'd.
Expand QuoteCovington vs Masvidal is official for March 5th at UFC 272
https://twitter.com/bokamotoespn/status/1481011471584677895?s=21
To be fair, I have no idea how Masvidal can win this. Colby won't shoot a sloppy single leg and get Ben Askren'd.[close]
Jorge has a pretty good sprawl and cage walk against everyone who isn't kamaru.
It'll be interesting to see if Colby still has a strong chin after that jaw got broken
masvidal vs covington isn’t really that exciting to me. i think it’s obvious covington will take it. one of them should be fighting leon edwards if anything and then he should fight kamaru for the title. ngannou vs gane is a way more exciting fight, i hope ngannou can keep up the way lewis couldn’t.
Are we sure that wasn't just Brock in a super convincing Ngannou cosplay?
I actually knocked my bong over when he channeled Davey Boy Smith and fucking powerslammed him. You could almost see that as the point where Gane realized he wasn't in there with a human. Patient, level changing, guard passing, hook sinking Francis is fucking terrifying. Ever since the first Stipe fight he looks like a different person and you can tell he has one of the best corners and teams in the UFC.
The scary thing is he may have just done that on one knee.
Expand QuoteAre we sure that wasn't just Brock in a super convincing Ngannou cosplay?
I actually knocked my bong over when he channeled Davey Boy Smith and fucking powerslammed him. You could almost see that as the point where Gane realized he wasn't in there with a human. Patient, level changing, guard passing, hook sinking Francis is fucking terrifying. Ever since the first Stipe fight he looks like a different person and you can tell he has one of the best corners and teams in the UFC.
The scary thing is he may have just done that on one knee.[close]
Gane’s still at the top of the pack at HW though, if he works on his grappling more, he’s going to be a major problem. I still think he can beat Francis. I’d like to see him vs Stipe or Apsinall eventually.
I’m just glad he never fought Curtis Blaydes though.
I have a soft spot for Gane though, I saw his second pro fight in TKO here in Quebec when he beat the ever-loving fuck out of Adam Dyczka. I stood 5 feet away from him, he’s gigantic, I can only imagine how big Francis is.
Props to Francis though, he fought a very smart fight and his BJJ has improved so much. I loved the panic in DC’s voice when he went “Oh my goodness he’s doing jiu-jitsu now”.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAre we sure that wasn't just Brock in a super convincing Ngannou cosplay?
I actually knocked my bong over when he channeled Davey Boy Smith and fucking powerslammed him. You could almost see that as the point where Gane realized he wasn't in there with a human. Patient, level changing, guard passing, hook sinking Francis is fucking terrifying. Ever since the first Stipe fight he looks like a different person and you can tell he has one of the best corners and teams in the UFC.
The scary thing is he may have just done that on one knee.[close]
Gane’s still at the top of the pack at HW though, if he works on his grappling more, he’s going to be a major problem. I still think he can beat Francis. I’d like to see him vs Stipe or Apsinall eventually.
I’m just glad he never fought Curtis Blaydes though.
I have a soft spot for Gane though, I saw his second pro fight in TKO here in Quebec when he beat the ever-loving fuck out of Adam Dyczka. I stood 5 feet away from him, he’s gigantic, I can only imagine how big Francis is.
Props to Francis though, he fought a very smart fight and his BJJ has improved so much. I loved the panic in DC’s voice when he went “Oh my goodness he’s doing jiu-jitsu now”.[close]
DC is thanking God almighty he never had to fight Francis
Expand QuoteAre we sure that wasn't just Brock in a super convincing Ngannou cosplay?
I actually knocked my bong over when he channeled Davey Boy Smith and fucking powerslammed him. You could almost see that as the point where Gane realized he wasn't in there with a human. Patient, level changing, guard passing, hook sinking Francis is fucking terrifying. Ever since the first Stipe fight he looks like a different person and you can tell he has one of the best corners and teams in the UFC.
The scary thing is he may have just done that on one knee.[close]
Gane’s still at the top of the pack at HW though, if he works on his grappling more, he’s going to be a major problem. I still think he can beat Francis. I’d like to see him vs Stipe or Apsinall eventually.
I’m just glad he never fought Curtis Blaydes though.
I have a soft spot for Gane though, I saw his second pro fight in TKO here in Quebec when he beat the ever-loving fuck out of Adam Dyczka. I stood 5 feet away from him, he’s gigantic, I can only imagine how big Francis is.
Props to Francis though, he fought a very smart fight and his BJJ has improved so much. I loved the panic in DC’s voice when he went “Oh my goodness he’s doing jiu-jitsu now”.
Oh no my boy got starched in 15 seconds goddamn. First time getting finished.
https://streamja.com/Xqajo
i can’t believe derrick lewis got slept like that. israel is the fucking champ. i think he should be ranked the best pound for pound fighter. cannonier fight was great, looking forward to seeing him against iggy this summer.
Goddamn! Special rules: 3 mins of striking, then 3 mins of grappling, etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ2CEOdEbwE
watch before it gets taken down; the vid is not as long as it appears.
wow beautiful grappling in the puelles guida fight
holy shit standing arm triangle.
i dont train but would like to one day. the only gym in reasonable distance is all men(im a woman). may go for a free lesson to check the lay of the land. be happ to train with men. the werent rude on the phone but werent exactly encouraging. can imagine it being abit macho broey. i know every gym is different.
i like ebi, polaris etc
whats your fave sub or sweep?
will check yancy sanchez, cheers
As for subs, I'm an armlock guy, and I looooove a good gi choke (cross choke, loop choke, bow n arrow etc..). Leglocks are starting to come into play for me as well, yet I'm still quite green.
Fav guard pass is the over/under followed by the Matt Darcy "Death Pass". Pretty much anything from halfguard where I can cook you to the bone and tire you out with pressure.
Sweeps ? Depends if I'm in gi or nogi. I love a good John Wayne sweep (got 3-4 diff variations), scissor and flower sweep are paramount to your game and i've been toying a lot with the Jedi Mind Trick lately, although it's still it its early stages for now. I could talk about this all day, feel from to PM me if you have any other questions !
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As for subs, I'm an armlock guy, and I looooove a good gi choke (cross choke, loop choke, bow n arrow etc..). Leglocks are starting to come into play for me as well, yet I'm still quite green.
Fav guard pass is the over/under followed by the Matt Darcy "Death Pass". Pretty much anything from halfguard where I can cook you to the bone and tire you out with pressure.
Sweeps ? Depends if I'm in gi or nogi. I love a good John Wayne sweep (got 3-4 diff variations), scissor and flower sweep are paramount to your game and i've been toying a lot with the Jedi Mind Trick lately, although it's still it its early stages for now. I could talk about this all day, feel from to PM me if you have any other questions ![close]
lol had to look up the jedi mind trick, thats cool as fuck.
i just wanna be able to disinterestedly choke someone out with my legs while im reading a book and shit like that. doesnt get any cooler than that.
coolest for me (granted i just watch on the internet and youtubejitsu) is imaniri to heelhook and this thing ryan hall demonstrated. basically a hip bump sweep but dont control the arm so they post to counter, then use the space to wrap up a triangle in one fluid motion.
looking further afield theres oxfordbjj with a guy whos won ibjjf britains. they do a womens lesson on a sunday then an open mat after which if im allowed on the guys can chuck me around like an empty tracksuit. plus fundamentals in evenings i could prob make if the trains are on time.
once i get over my covid paranoia im gonna do it, been wanting to for several years.
bet it makes you a better skater too? if you can manipulate a resisting opponent then a plank of wood prob seems easier? similar body mechanics, exact micro movements at exact right time for specific results.
ill defo pm you when i start and rabbit on like a maniac, thank you
The ferg fall continues. Any of you got a good stream
Expand QuoteThe ferg fall continues. Any of you got a good stream[close]
I know I'm late and I don't want to link to any questionable sites but if you google "mmastreams" it will give you a bunch of sites where the streamers will post their links. It's basically all the same shit you used to find on reddit, not the greatest but most of them are watchable. I usually open a couple different tabs so if the stream gets shut down I just switch to a different one.
Oh and if there's a chat make sure that you close it, lest ye bear witness to a bunch of people too dumb for 4chan desperately spouting hot takes and being racist edgelords.
watch them give conor a title shot next and fuck over the entire division again.
rose gave her belt away. gonna watch prelims now
Expand Quotewatch them give conor a title shot next and fuck over the entire division again.
rose gave her belt away. gonna watch prelims now[close]
I can totally see this happening. The goof's dream come true.
I don't feel bad for rose at all. Let my queen joanna get that belt back
i think Holly probably won that but im not mad. her IshIshIsh flurries without connecting once are very irritating
I feel like it takes Holly a long time to calm down and settle in. All those flurries look like desperation moves. Then the 4th comes and she’s starts working her combos with her legs and hands and starts doing damage.
Expand QuoteI feel like it takes Holly a long time to calm down and settle in. All those flurries look like desperation moves. Then the 4th comes and she’s starts working her combos with her legs and hands and starts doing damage.[close]
I feel like that happens sometimes with fighters who come from high level boxing backgrounds...they straddle the line between being patient and lacking a sense of urgency a little too much and just naturally fall into the sparring/workout or point fighting kinda mindset instead of always looking for the finish right away. Thats not as big of a deal when you have 10-12 rounds to work with and the judging criteria is pretty well established, but in MMA you always have to worry about Sal D'Amato or Chris Lee. Not that boxing doesn't have its share of awful judging (looking at you Adelaide Byrd), but it seems like in MMA there's at least one fight on every show that ends up with a controversial decision and we have to see it again. Unfortunately I feel like that's probably what will happen here.
I had Holly ahead or even in every round except the one she temporarily turned into a cherry tomato. I forget what the exact stats were but I think she had almost double the significant strikes (though a ton of them were leg kicks). There's just no way I can give Viera that fight, though I'd grumble but not really argue with a draw.
Really hoping o malley loses. Very annoying man
I don't want to see Robbie Lawler fight anymore, age has really caught up to him. Watching his fights in Strikeforce, MacDonald 1 & 2, Hendricks 1 & 2 and Matt Brown turned me from a casual to hardcore MMA fan. He was never the same after the Woodley KO, and I hate Woodly for that, even though he was slowing down prior.
Damn… Volk beat the absolute shit out of Max. Volk is the fucking best.
Expand QuoteDamn… Volk beat the absolute shit out of Max. Volk is the fucking best.[close]
Max is my favorite fighter but if there is anything I know about watching MMA is your favorite fighter will always lose and in fine fashion sometimes. It’s a bummer but he’s solidified himself has a future hall of famer.
Holy fuck did you guys see chito smoke cruz last night? That was fucking brutal. Caved his nose in
i wonder if his big toenail cut dom’s gum, shit was in there deep if you look at the photo. cruz looked really good for the first few rounds, some would argue he was up 2-1 if not 3-1 up until that moment. he still should be regarded as the greatest bantamweight of all time thus far & inducted into hall of fame as soon as he retires. his foot work & combos throughout that fight, especially at his age were impressive to say the least. chito just holds too much power.Expand QuoteHoly fuck did you guys see chito smoke cruz last night? That was fucking brutal. Caved his nose in[close]
That kick damn near gave me flashbacks to Rashad Evans vs Sean Salmon.
i wonder if his big toenail cut dom’s gum, shit was in there deep if you look at the photo. cruz looked really good for the first few rounds, some would argue he was up 2-1 if not 3-1 up until that moment. he still should be regarded as the greatest bantamweight of all time thus far & inducted into hall of fame as soon as he retires. his foot work & combos throughout that fight, especially at his age were impressive to say the least. chito just holds too much power.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHoly fuck did you guys see chito smoke cruz last night? That was fucking brutal. Caved his nose in[close]
That kick damn near gave me flashbacks to Rashad Evans vs Sean Salmon.[close]
Expand Quotei wonder if his big toenail cut dom’s gum, shit was in there deep if you look at the photo. cruz looked really good for the first few rounds, some would argue he was up 2-1 if not 3-1 up until that moment. he still should be regarded as the greatest bantamweight of all time thus far & inducted into hall of fame as soon as he retires. his foot work & combos throughout that fight, especially at his age were impressive to say the least. chito just holds too much power.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHoly fuck did you guys see chito smoke cruz last night? That was fucking brutal. Caved his nose in[close]
That kick damn near gave me flashbacks to Rashad Evans vs Sean Salmon.[close][close]
Agreed. His career at bw is incredible, an absolute legend.
Chito has that touch of death at 135.
And also love Dom doing the most San Diego thing ever, aka getting your ass kicked in your hometown
Holy fuck who saw that KO kick from Leon to Usman?!!! Amazing.
Expand QuoteHoly fuck who saw that KO kick from Leon to Usman?!!! Amazing.[close]
That was an incredible way to finish one of the worst UFC cards I have ever seen. I could hardly believe it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYqsrG6rnl0
Excuse the shitty music, but the Rockhold's last fight was a great farewell. He's been a meme for the tail end of his career, and proved to be a dick on numerous occasions but there's no denying that he was one of the scariest fighters for a brief stretch of time before the Bisping KO. Always love a good blood and guts performance.
He was actually complementing his kicks with his hands, wish I tuned into to watch that one live. I just hope my boy Robbie Lawler can have a quality retirement fight like this, become Ruthless one last time before laying the gloves down in the octagon.
I’m actually so hyped for Leon.
Expand QuoteHe was actually complementing his kicks with his hands, wish I tuned into to watch that one live. I just hope my boy Robbie Lawler can have a quality retirement fight like this, become Ruthless one last time before laying the gloves down in the octagon.[close]
That fight with him and Bryan Barberena was awesome. He could have called it then and I wouldn't have been mad. He fights Ponzinibbio next at UFC 282.
Expand QuoteI’m actually so hyped for Leon.[close]
Really opens up some possibilities for match ups in the division
Isn’t Colby hurt? I saw on IG he had surgery on his jaw? Or neck. Out ‘till March or somethin…
Would love to see Leon tune him up though.
Expand QuoteIsn’t Colby hurt? I saw on IG he had surgery on his jaw? Or neck. Out ‘till March or somethin…
Would love to see Leon tune him up though.[close]
That and the legal shit with Masvidal.
Anyways the fight won’t happen immediately, Usman’s getting an automatic rematch for sure. If Leon gets through Usman a second time, he’ll be getting Khamzat or Colby next most likely.
Khamzat might be a better fight for him seeing as he’s fucking crazy and might want to turn it into a brawl like he did with Gilbert. Only thing is Leon is not sloppy like Gilbert is when it comes to striking.
I don’t think Colby will let that happen. Again as much as I hate him, dude’s a great wrestler with a solid gameplan and an endless gas tank.
Historically 170 has always been a grappler-heavy division especially when it comes to champions… I’d still love to see Leon put Colby’s lights out though.
i would’ve been stoked if they changed it the way they did, kept the holland vs drod fight and offered paulo a shit ton of money to say fuck it and settle the beef with khamzat but, he just fought rockhold and wasn’t training for this fight so it wasn’t really fair. glad they didn’t have dustin come in like they talked about to fight nate, that one could’ve been ugly as well.
Idk what the fuck I just watched, but I was hyped to see Diaz pull off an effortless submission to finish that.
Just bummed me out… dude looked completely out of it.Expand QuoteIdk what the fuck I just watched, but I was hyped to see Diaz pull off an effortless submission to finish that.[close]
Ferg should hang it up. He's absolutely washed
Just bummed me out… dude looked completely out of it.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteIdk what the fuck I just watched, but I was hyped to see Diaz pull off an effortless submission to finish that.[close]
Ferg should hang it up. He's absolutely washed[close]
Anyone watching GGG Canelo 3? I don't wanna make a new thread specifically for boxing cause it's not very popular these days it seems...
And no wonder. What a garbage fight. Can't believe they were charging $80 for this. Glad I streamed it for free.
GGG won 2-3 rounds at most.
Jose Aldo retired. One of the greatest featherweights to ever do it. Fuck i wish he could have gotten a second crack at Conor. Especially this crack head version. He could have put the hands on him like dusty did in his revenge fight.
https://youtu.be/aW8C0c0m8jU
I never saw that fight, but the Aldo v Faber fight...holy shit. Just pure destruction of Faber's legs. I would have tapped out or faked an injury way sooner then endure those leg kicks.
https://forums.mixedmartialarts.com/t/mccorkles-matt-hughes-book-review/1691049
I don't know if it's ever been posted in here but i was rereading mccorckle's hilarious review of Matt Hughes' book where he confesses his many crimes and embarrassments. Fuck, Hughes is such a worthless scumbag
Expand QuoteAnyone watching GGG Canelo 3? I don't wanna make a new thread specifically for boxing cause it's not very popular these days it seems...
And no wonder. What a garbage fight. Can't believe they were charging $80 for this. Glad I streamed it for free.
GGG won 2-3 rounds at most.[close]
Ya, I watched it. It's basically what I expected. GGG is 40 years old now and was clearly just in it for the paycheck.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone watching GGG Canelo 3? I don't wanna make a new thread specifically for boxing cause it's not very popular these days it seems...
And no wonder. What a garbage fight. Can't believe they were charging $80 for this. Glad I streamed it for free.
GGG won 2-3 rounds at most.[close]
Ya, I watched it. It's basically what I expected. GGG is 40 years old now and was clearly just in it for the paycheck.[close]
Joyce vs Parker should be a good scrap.
Not much else too exciting on the horizon barring Wilder Helenius, Bivol Ramirez and possibly finally Spence Crawford.
Hey brosephs, who do you have Sean O'Malley vs Petr Yan?
They announced Yan as the 4-1 betting favorite...
Definitely a career-defining moment for Sugar Sean. And we have yet to see his grappling.
Not like he doesn't have grappling skills, apparently he trains a lot with good sparring partners. But also look what happened to Giga Chikadze. He was on such a roll and then Kattar beat him with groundwork.
Sean O'Malley vs Petr Yan: What do you say?
I guess I'll put this here.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cja8w2FsxzP/
Expand QuoteI guess I'll put this here.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cja8w2FsxzP/[close]
Yooo chiesa in a menkimati shirt??? Never would have seen that one coming
Thats cool. Rockhold and the rutolo twins also skate
https://www.ufc.com/event/ufc-280
Looks like a good one this week, Dillashaw has tanked his reputation and legacy in the recent past but watching him beat Renan Barao to claim the belt was a great night.
Also looking forward to Beneil Dariush fighting again.
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Looks like a good one this week, Dillashaw has tanked his reputation and legacy in the recent past but watching him beat Renan Barao to claim the belt was a great night.
Also looking forward to Beneil Dariush fighting again.[close]
I love beneil. I hate how the ufc is trying to shaft him
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Looks like a good one this week, Dillashaw has tanked his reputation and legacy in the recent past but watching him beat Renan Barao to claim the belt was a great night.
Also looking forward to Beneil Dariush fighting again.[close]
I love beneil. I hate how the ufc is trying to shaft him[close]
https://youtu.be/lgShlvwS3U8
Love the post-KO war cry at 2:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGwmAB5CMcs&ab_channel=FightnightTv.
The Drakkar Klose comeback win is great too
Amazing his his record is 21-4 after fighting for so long, the flying knee KO by Barboza set him back but he's on a 7-fight streak.
https://www.ufc.com/event/ufc-280
Looks like a good one this week, Dillashaw has tanked his reputation and legacy in the recent past but watching him beat Renan Barao to claim the belt was a great night.
Also looking forward to Beneil Dariush fighting again.
SPOILERS
the petr v o'malley fight was a suprise, didnt think he would do so well. benny v gamrot was excellent scrambles. hes well overdue a titleshot and looks like volk getting it next.
unfortunate for tj, hes a bellend but love watching him fight. dumb decision to fight with a shoulder thats recently dislocated 20 times.
happy for islam but that hurt seeing charles lose. was worried about his eyes bleeding after recent lasik surgery.
great card.
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the petr v o'malley fight was a suprise, didnt think he would do so well. benny v gamrot was excellent scrambles. hes well overdue a titleshot and looks like volk getting it next.
unfortunate for tj, hes a bellend but love watching him fight. dumb decision to fight with a shoulder thats recently dislocated 20 times.
happy for islam but that hurt seeing charles lose. was worried about his eyes bleeding after recent lasik surgery.
great card.[close]
You think he had to fight for financial reasons or was it just his ego? Why would he waste his title shot like that.
i agree with all of that. i know sean landed more significant strikes but, petr landed more strikes all together & his ground control time equated to a full round if i remember correctly. it’s peculiar because a lot of the time someone will far out strike a fighter, do a lot more damage and maybe take them down even.. then they’ll give it to the other guy for more ground control time/takedowns even if they didn’t really do any damage. this was the opposite case where o malley obviously caused more damage from his striking but had zero ground control/takedowns & won? i think it’s definitely because he’s the ufc’s new “project” as some will say & they want him to blow up even bigger as does he obviously. what doesn’t make sense about it is if that is so, why would him & dana both not push for the sterling fight/title shot? maybe it’s all just apart of a plan to have him finally fight cejudo when he comes back since they have been going back and forth so much already & also because aljo will just take him down & control him the entire time like he did to multiple others. seeing oliveria lose still hurts.
no you’re right, i don’t mean to sound like it was predetermined for him to win. i just mean that it was so close of a call that maybe he got a pull for a possible matchup down the line as opposed to petr getting another title shot against aljo, being that he technically lost twice already so that would be unlikely. i figured with those results sean would be a sure shot, now it seems like chito will probably be it though being that aljo won’t fight merab. unless sandhagen fights chito & that determines the next title shot.Expand Quotei agree with all of that. i know sean landed more significant strikes but, petr landed more strikes all together & his ground control time equated to a full round if i remember correctly. it’s peculiar because a lot of the time someone will far out strike a fighter, do a lot more damage and maybe take them down even.. then they’ll give it to the other guy for more ground control time/takedowns even if they didn’t really do any damage. this was the opposite case where o malley obviously caused more damage from his striking but had zero ground control/takedowns & won? i think it’s definitely because he’s the ufc’s new “project” as some will say & they want him to blow up even bigger as does he obviously. what doesn’t make sense about it is if that is so, why would him & dana both not push for the sterling fight/title shot? maybe it’s all just apart of a plan to have him finally fight cejudo when he comes back since they have been going back and forth so much already & also because aljo will just take him down & control him the entire time like he did to multiple others. seeing oliveria lose still hurts.[close]
I agree with everything you wrote, but I think you are being a bit conspiratorial seeing a bigger plan behind it. The judges definitely favored O‘Meally, but I don‘t think there was already a plan set in place for the next fights.
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the petr v o'malley fight was a suprise, didnt think he would do so well. benny v gamrot was excellent scrambles. hes well overdue a titleshot and looks like volk getting it next.
unfortunate for tj, hes a bellend but love watching him fight. dumb decision to fight with a shoulder thats recently dislocated 20 times.
happy for islam but that hurt seeing charles lose. was worried about his eyes bleeding after recent lasik surgery.
great card.[close]
You think he had to fight for financial reasons or was it just his ego? Why would he waste his title shot like that.[close]
i would guess a combination of those and also his age. 37 is getting pretty old for bantamweight where speed is a major factor. i think he would have been better pulling out and risking a title shot rather than going into a fight with a pre existing fight ending injury. with his 2 year steroid ban, cody jacking his knee and now the shoulder injury, his career has gone off the rails pretty badly. shame because hes a joy to watch
How legit is the judging in UFC? Thought O'Malley lost pretty clearly and he looked like he thought so too, and then somehow won it. Feel like they favor the popular rising stars pretty heavily when it's somewhat close. Or do I just not understand the sport good enough?. I couldn’t tell if O’Malley was surprised by the decision, or just concussed. He seemed genuinely shocked and lost for words on the mic. When they asked him about fighting for the title, I was expecting him to cut a good promo and be hyped. Instead he was like “I dunno, I have to go back and watch the fight before I decide “. It was truly strange seeing a UFC fighter not jump on the opportunity for a title fight. Win or lose, O’Malley was really impressive in the fight. His hands are lightning fast and accurate.
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POV: the last fucking thing you see on this mortal plane
Holy fuck! MMA does it again. Did not see Izzy losing that last round. It was Leon 2.0.exactly what i was going to say, even had the same kind of corner speech right before the last round. he got saved by the bell at the end of round 1. this has been a heavy year of belt losses. glover, kamaru, charles & now izzy. i’m not hating at all but, i would like to see both glover & izzy reclaim the belt in their rematches. that was an absolutely insane card/event though.
Paddy and good ol' uncle Dana tried sniping at Ariel tha god (best mma journalist out there). Little did they know what'd happen if they came at the king. 10-8 round, Ariel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWSPKnMwW9M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-dC8ulPXDE
Come on they gotta know by now Ariel’s gonna have receipts lol team Ariel all the way…
Expand QuotePaddy and good ol' uncle Dana tried sniping at Ariel tha god (best mma journalist out there). Little did they know what'd happen if they came at the king. 10-8 round, Ariel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWSPKnMwW9M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-dC8ulPXDE[close]
Paddy is such a hack. Trying to do a lame Conor impersonation
There's no way Paddy won that.
Lol and the lhw ship is a draw, what a fucking joke the judging tonight has been. Thankful that most of the fights were finishes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmqzaK51NGQhe’s probably going to box first then move to another mma organization (maybe pfl) unless he wins & then the ufc works out the negations with him being that he’d be an even bigger draw in the sport. i don’t see him beating fury or anyone else of that caliber though honestly. jon jones signed an 8 fight contract so if he does win the belt & ngannou eventually comes back we could end up getting that fight after all.
Ngannou is a real one for this. I'm looking forward to streaming the fight tomorrow night. I may go out of my way to buy his next fight on whatever Bellator-like organization he ends up fighting with. I'd love to see some real competition to the UFC.
he’s probably going to box first then move to another mma organization (maybe pfl) unless he wins & then the ufc works out the negations with him being that he’d be an even bigger draw in the sport. i don’t see him beating fury or anyone else of that caliber though honestly. jon jones signed an 8 fight contract so if he does win the belt & ngannou eventually comes back we could end up getting that fight after all.Expand Quotehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmqzaK51NGQ
Ngannou is a real one for this. I'm looking forward to streaming the fight tomorrow night. I may go out of my way to buy his next fight on whatever Bellator-like organization he ends up fighting with. I'd love to see some real competition to the UFC.[close]
yeah, he’s a giant piece of shit. also a fun person to watch fight though. either way, he just started an extensive contract so we’ll be seeing him quite a bit.Expand Quotehe’s probably going to box first then move to another mma organization (maybe pfl) unless he wins & then the ufc works out the negations with him being that he’d be an even bigger draw in the sport. i don’t see him beating fury or anyone else of that caliber though honestly. jon jones signed an 8 fight contract so if he does win the belt & ngannou eventually comes back we could end up getting that fight after all.Expand Quotehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmqzaK51NGQ
Ngannou is a real one for this. I'm looking forward to streaming the fight tomorrow night. I may go out of my way to buy his next fight on whatever Bellator-like organization he ends up fighting with. I'd love to see some real competition to the UFC.[close][close]
I want ciryl to kick Jon's ass. I fucking hate him so much
yeah, he’s a giant piece of shit. also a fun person to watch fight though. either way, he just started an extensive contract so we’ll be seeing him quite a bit.Expand QuoteExpand Quotehe’s probably going to box first then move to another mma organization (maybe pfl) unless he wins & then the ufc works out the negations with him being that he’d be an even bigger draw in the sport. i don’t see him beating fury or anyone else of that caliber though honestly. jon jones signed an 8 fight contract so if he does win the belt & ngannou eventually comes back we could end up getting that fight after all.Expand Quotehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmqzaK51NGQ
Ngannou is a real one for this. I'm looking forward to streaming the fight tomorrow night. I may go out of my way to buy his next fight on whatever Bellator-like organization he ends up fighting with. I'd love to see some real competition to the UFC.[close][close]
I want ciryl to kick Jon's ass. I fucking hate him so much[close]
Jamal Hill demolished Glover last night. That left head kick was landing over and over again. The cut over Glover's right eye reminded me of the cut Dom Cruz sustained against Garbrandt, but Glover's was way worse. Glover is tough as nails but I'm glad Jamal got the win. I love seeing someone with a family change their entire life for the better.
Great card over all.
I'm gonna try to catch both main events, but I think I'm prioritizing Fedor's last fight tonight.
Hope the HW GOAT enjoys retirement
i haven’t rewatched it yet but i thought volk won.
greatest of all time, no question. i can’t wait for the stipe fight. this has to be the best year in ufc already just based off of the cards through half of the year. bo nickal is the real ufc prospect, stop hyping up paddy, give him drew dober and then call it a retirement. khamzat vs shavkat is the fight we all want and need. great card but who knows how it holds up to the next 2 ppvs after looking at the cards, exciting.
good card. gaethje still has it, should rematch dustin for next title shot. leon was impressive, usman looked a bit slower but still had some good moments. i don’t think colby should be next but i will definitely be watching.
Expand Quotegood card. gaethje still has it, should rematch dustin for next title shot. leon was impressive, usman looked a bit slower but still had some good moments. i don’t think colby should be next but i will definitely be watching.[close]
Gaethje looked like he just got out of bed when the fight was over, Fiziev looked like his face went through a car windshield during a crash. Justin was also like +250 underdog going into that fight. Crazy performance by both guys.
I think Colby getting the shot has to be connected to the Masvidal legal issue. I'd have to imagine Colby's lawyer is trying to pin some sort of responsibility or negligence on the UFC for what happened, whether it's legit or not, and this could be the UFC's way of trying to make it go away. I agree that he shouldn't be getting the next shot either. Belal is on a 9 fight unbeaten streak.
I'm sick of seeing the same 2 or 3 dudes fight for the title over the past few years.
Edit: Usman has 5 titles defenses against 3 different people. Jorge twice, Colby twice, and Burns once. I don't get why people were so quick to call him the GOAT WW.
Izzy just beat his demon live in front of the world and left no doubt. Shout to him
holy shit Toupria is for real. I hope Josh Emmett retires after tonight. He's taken so much punishment in his career and he's already 38. Dude is too tough for his own good.if anything i think a rematch with kattar would make sense for emmett coming off 2 losses & kattar off of an injury, they’re both getting up there in age obviously. going back to back with yair & topuria was a death sentence for emmett, crazy to see him & vettori both show unbelievable chins/heart back to back within a week. featherweight is getting really interesting again.
Maycee Barber also looked the best she ever has. Great card today.
https://www.fightprimer.com/robbie-lawler-rebirth-and-retirement
Fun read / listen if you're a huge Robbie Lawler fan, really enjoyed his 2nd run in the UFC, his savage power refined with sharp technique was something to behold.
Hope we can see Ruthless appear 1 last time tonight.
https://www.fightprimer.com/robbie-lawler-rebirth-and-retirement
Fun read / listen if you're a huge Robbie Lawler fan, really enjoyed his 2nd run in the UFC, his savage power refined with sharp technique was something to behold.
Hope we can see Ruthless appear 1 last time tonight.
With an Uppercut to the chin… i don’t think he even took any damage? Amazing way to finish a career…yeah that was great, i picked him to win despite most legends not going out like that (aldo, cowboy, frankie, jorje… e.c.t.) but i really didn’t expect him to make it look that easy. didn’t expect bo to ko woodruff in the first minute as well either, i think if they don’t rush him he will be a big star one day. did not expect dricus to pull that off, did rob look off or am i still just trying to cope? bummed moreno lost too, rematch will definitely be next. after how fucking good that fight was, maybe it becomes the new figuerdo fight & just keeps going and going. & last but not least volk is one of the goats, no questions asked & no way to debate. undefeated in the ufc other than a single loss to the champion at a higher weight class, which some people (myself included) think he won. dude just does not get enough credit.
yeah that was great, i picked him to win despite most legends not going out like that (aldo, cowboy, frankie, jorje… e.c.t.) but i really didn’t expect him to make it look that easy. didn’t expect bo to ko woodruff in the first minute as well either, i think if they don’t rush him he will be a big star one day. did not expect dricus to pull that off, did rob look off or am i still just trying to cope? bummed moreno lost too, rematch will definitely be next. after how fucking good that fight was, maybe it becomes the new figuerdo fight & just keeps going and going. & last but not least volk is one of the goats, no questions asked & no way to debate. undefeated in the ufc other than a single loss to the champion at a higher weight class, which some people (myself included) think he won. dude just does not get enough credit.Expand QuoteWith an Uppercut to the chin… i don’t think he even took any damage? Amazing way to finish a career…[close]
well paulo broke luke’s nose in the first & they were at elevation otherwise it could have been a different fight. with bkfc, he just should have gotten a better mouth guard. he was having success against perry in round 1 as well.Expand Quoteyeah that was great, i picked him to win despite most legends not going out like that (aldo, cowboy, frankie, jorje… e.c.t.) but i really didn’t expect him to make it look that easy. didn’t expect bo to ko woodruff in the first minute as well either, i think if they don’t rush him he will be a big star one day. did not expect dricus to pull that off, did rob look off or am i still just trying to cope? bummed moreno lost too, rematch will definitely be next. after how fucking good that fight was, maybe it becomes the new figuerdo fight & just keeps going and going. & last but not least volk is one of the goats, no questions asked & no way to debate. undefeated in the ufc other than a single loss to the champion at a higher weight class, which some people (myself included) think he won. dude just does not get enough credit.Expand QuoteWith an Uppercut to the chin… i don’t think he even took any damage? Amazing way to finish a career…[close][close]
We didn't get a vintage slugfest from Ruthless but at this stage in his career that is a blessing for us and him. His movement was looking sharp, reminiscent of the 2nd McDonald fight, and his power still remained to close out the fight with zero damage taken.
Fairy tales endings don't happen often in MMA, so I'm going to savor this one.
Rockhold's last fight was a great showing too, he gassed after the first but showed his tenacity and bloodlust in the 3rd. Should have stay retired instead of going to BKFC.
How does everyone else feel about Izzy's racist comments after DDP's win? I've been a fan of Israel since his debut, but that behavior really turned me off. DDP never once said he's, "more African," or, "the real African fighter." Thats been completely concocted by the media. Izzy acted extremely immature and I hope DDP wins the belt.yeah it wasn’t a good look at all but ddp did say that, just not in those words. he said “i’m the african fighting in the ufc, i live in africa and breathe the air, that’s a real african champion & that’s what i’ll be”. while it isn’t directly saying “izzy, usman & ngannou aren’t african” it’s certainly suggesting it and it wasn’t the best thing to say to sell himself. not defending izzy’s bullshit but i can understand why he was offended.
yeah it wasn’t a good look at all but ddp did say that, just not in those words. he said “i’m the african fighting in the ufc, i live in africa and breathe the air, that’s a real african champion & that’s what i’ll be”. while it isn’t directly saying “izzy, usman & ngannou aren’t african” it’s certainly suggesting it and it wasn’t the best thing to say to sell himself. not defending izzy’s bullshit but i can understand why he was offended.Expand QuoteHow does everyone else feel about Izzy's racist comments after DDP's win? I've been a fan of Israel since his debut, but that behavior really turned me off. DDP never once said he's, "more African," or, "the real African fighter." Thats been completely concocted by the media. Izzy acted extremely immature and I hope DDP wins the belt.[close]
yeah it wasn’t a good look at all but ddp did say that, just not in those words. he said “i’m the african fighting in the ufc, i live in africa and breathe the air, that’s a real african champion & that’s what i’ll be”. while it isn’t directly saying “izzy, usman & ngannou aren’t african” it’s certainly suggesting it and it wasn’t the best thing to say to sell himself. not defending izzy’s bullshit but i can understand why he was offended.Expand QuoteHow does everyone else feel about Izzy's racist comments after DDP's win? I've been a fan of Israel since his debut, but that behavior really turned me off. DDP never once said he's, "more African," or, "the real African fighter." Thats been completely concocted by the media. Izzy acted extremely immature and I hope DDP wins the belt.[close]
okay so, after seeing the dominance of the wrestling thread over this one, can we get more discussions going on in here or maybe recruit some users towards ufc (sarcastic laughing that maybe isn’t so sarcastic, call it a “mr.burns chuckle” if you will)?? i think the dilemma in mma is it being seen as “jocky” whilst the top thread in whatever is about wwe? doesn’t make sense to me, i understand being a fan of the visuals or the drama without the attachment of real violence might be key but, it’s apart of the sport, not a faked visual presentation of the same with more drama/story & less/no violence. all while the biggest sport there is (in america at least) being football, which is arguably just as violent. i just think that the ufc (mma in general) gets duped as being a slugfest between two randoms due to the general synopsis created by non-watchers & is silently over written to the public from people doing their homework & realizing the tactics/strategies and the true art behind mma.
okay so, after seeing the dominance of the wrestling thread over this one, can we get more discussions going on in here or maybe recruit some users towards ufc (sarcastic laughing that maybe isn’t so sarcastic, call it a “mr.burns chuckle” if you will)?? i think the dilemma in mma is it being seen as “jocky” whilst the top thread in whatever is about wwe? doesn’t make sense to me, i understand being a fan of the visuals or the drama without the attachment of real violence might be key but, it’s apart of the sport, not a faked visual presentation of the same with more drama/story & less/no violence. all while the biggest sport there is (in america at least) being football, which is arguably just as violent. i just think that the ufc (mma in general) gets duped as being a slugfest between two randoms due to the general synopsis created by non-watchers & is silently over written to the public from people doing their homework & realizing the tactics/strategies and the true art behind mma.
right but i related it to how much more popular wwe is & always has been and just look at it… if anything i think that reasoning is why more people are fans of wwe. i haven’t watched it since the stone cold/rock days, which were pretty gritty, so maybe it’s changed but… if any sport is overly right & cringe especially as far as fan base i would lean towards them. colby/masvidal aren’t the faces of mma. but i do get your point.Expand Quoteokay so, after seeing the dominance of the wrestling thread over this one, can we get more discussions going on in here or maybe recruit some users towards ufc (sarcastic laughing that maybe isn’t so sarcastic, call it a “mr.burns chuckle” if you will)?? i think the dilemma in mma is it being seen as “jocky” whilst the top thread in whatever is about wwe? doesn’t make sense to me, i understand being a fan of the visuals or the drama without the attachment of real violence might be key but, it’s apart of the sport, not a faked visual presentation of the same with more drama/story & less/no violence. all while the biggest sport there is (in america at least) being football, which is arguably just as violent. i just think that the ufc (mma in general) gets duped as being a slugfest between two randoms due to the general synopsis created by non-watchers & is silently over written to the public from people doing their homework & realizing the tactics/strategies and the true art behind mma.[close]
I started watching MMA in the late 00's when it was pretty much labeled as trashy redneck shit. It's a lot more polished and socially accepted now, but MMA fighters tend to be insufferable and dumb as shit. I have a hard time really being a fan of anyone. Add in all the ties to Trump and conservative politcs don't help it's image either.
yeah you have a point here. wwe is like “hey i’ve never seen a fight before i wanna see spray tanned guys with mullets yell at each other about how they don’t get laid & then have some dramatic clash where nobody gets hurt”. seems kinda more for the simple folk than “hey i want to see how this guys grappling can help him against such a good striker” (not to hate). i think covid really helped ufc become a lot bigger than it was before due to being the only sport to continue do events during lockdown. despite it being a tacky choice to a lot of people, when you’re locked in your house for months & your a sports fan with no live action the entire time… you’re bound to eventually find a new source of entertainment when there’s nothing else available.Expand Quoteokay so, after seeing the dominance of the wrestling thread over this one, can we get more discussions going on in here or maybe recruit some users towards ufc (sarcastic laughing that maybe isn’t so sarcastic, call it a “mr.burns chuckle” if you will)?? i think the dilemma in mma is it being seen as “jocky” whilst the top thread in whatever is about wwe? doesn’t make sense to me, i understand being a fan of the visuals or the drama without the attachment of real violence might be key but, it’s apart of the sport, not a faked visual presentation of the same with more drama/story & less/no violence. all while the biggest sport there is (in america at least) being football, which is arguably just as violent. i just think that the ufc (mma in general) gets duped as being a slugfest between two randoms due to the general synopsis created by non-watchers & is silently over written to the public from people doing their homework & realizing the tactics/strategies and the true art behind mma.[close]
A great question. It's tough to compete against the WWE because it is entertainment by design. It plays into the same tropes and fight scenes that action movies and westerns have been using for a century. I don't want to talk shit on WWE fans because as a kid I loved it, but it takes zero effort to follow the basic plot.
The sport of MMA itself is in a weird spot where it can simultaneously be labelled "aggro jock shit" for the swangin' and bangin' side, and "gay" for full guard, north-south, etc. It's also "as real as it gets" for fighting, but also can be hella boring when it's lay and pray style. A lot of paradoxes.
His balls was hot
Poirier vs Gaethje :'( - love'em both just hate seeing a KO like that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQx5DriBNN8
doostin did this interview with ariel today. worth a listen to. he seems like in good spirits, cracking jokes about getting hulk hogan booted in the head and then people's elbowed by herb dean. he was brutally honest about the situation, how he feels heartbroken, and what he wants to do next.
Tony really makes me sad. He needs to retire. He hasn't even been competitive outside of the first round of the Chandler fight. Not to mention the decades Justin shaved off his life
Expand Quotehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQx5DriBNN8
doostin did this interview with ariel today. worth a listen to. he seems like in good spirits, cracking jokes about getting hulk hogan booted in the head and then people's elbowed by herb dean. he was brutally honest about the situation, how he feels heartbroken, and what he wants to do next.[close]
He's a classy dude even in his defeat to Khabib, Him and Gaethje are 1 a piece and I'd like to see the rubber match.Expand QuoteTony really makes me sad. He needs to retire. He hasn't even been competitive outside of the first round of the Chandler fight. Not to mention the decades Justin shaved off his life[close]
I didn't watch the Bobby Green fight but Tony shouldn't be losing to someone whose last submission win was in 2013.
have you guys not seen how he acts when he wins a lot of the time though? i’m a big porier fan, one of my favorite fighters but he can really be a shit head after a win. one good example being the smack talk right after the dan hooker fight before the decision where he almost got finished himself. also the shit after the chandler fight where chandler tried to make peace & he shot him down. best chandler line ever was responding to porier saying “this is my house!” & chandler responding with “this modelo logo…?” ;DExpand QuoteExpand Quotehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQx5DriBNN8
doostin did this interview with ariel today. worth a listen to. he seems like in good spirits, cracking jokes about getting hulk hogan booted in the head and then people's elbowed by herb dean. he was brutally honest about the situation, how he feels heartbroken, and what he wants to do next.[close]
He's a classy dude even in his defeat to Khabib, Him and Gaethje are 1 a piece and I'd like to see the rubber match.Expand QuoteTony really makes me sad. He needs to retire. He hasn't even been competitive outside of the first round of the Chandler fight. Not to mention the decades Justin shaved off his life[close]
I didn't watch the Bobby Green fight but Tony shouldn't be losing to someone whose last submission win was in 2013.[close]
This interview and his post fight press conference reminded me a lot of when Dom Cruz lost to Cody Garbrandt and how he handled it.
Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQx5DriBNN8
doostin did this interview with ariel today. worth a listen to. he seems like in good spirits, cracking jokes about getting hulk hogan booted in the head and then people's elbowed by herb dean. he was brutally honest about the situation, how he feels heartbroken, and what he wants to do next.[close]
He's a classy dude even in his defeat to Khabib, Him and Gaethje are 1 a piece and I'd like to see the rubber match.Expand QuoteTony really makes me sad. He needs to retire. He hasn't even been competitive outside of the first round of the Chandler fight. Not to mention the decades Justin shaved off his life[close]
I didn't watch the Bobby Green fight but Tony shouldn't be losing to someone whose last submission win was in 2013.[close]
This interview and his post fight press conference reminded me a lot of when Dom Cruz lost to Cody Garbrandt and how he handled it.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQx5DriBNN8
doostin did this interview with ariel today. worth a listen to. he seems like in good spirits, cracking jokes about getting hulk hogan booted in the head and then people's elbowed by herb dean. he was brutally honest about the situation, how he feels heartbroken, and what he wants to do next.[close]
He's a classy dude even in his defeat to Khabib, Him and Gaethje are 1 a piece and I'd like to see the rubber match.Expand QuoteTony really makes me sad. He needs to retire. He hasn't even been competitive outside of the first round of the Chandler fight. Not to mention the decades Justin shaved off his life[close]
I didn't watch the Bobby Green fight but Tony shouldn't be losing to someone whose last submission win was in 2013.[close]
This interview and his post fight press conference reminded me a lot of when Dom Cruz lost to Cody Garbrandt and how he handled it.[close]
That was so satisfying to me… Dom was relentless with his trash talk…. I was a fan of Cody after that fight. Not too sure these days.
But yeah Dustin is the man… handled that L with grace. Khabib did say Gaethje is the hardest hitter he’s ever faced IIRC.
^Everyone is saying the chander/mcgregor fight is dead now, but I think it still has legs. Chandler is an energetic beast when he needs to be. That clip of Mcgregor shuving him, then him getting all hyped still makes me want to see it. Its interesting: if Conor really did do steroids, though — can't blame him cause he was nursing a broken bone — it's just going to show up in the drug testing. I remember the Jon jones "pinch of salt in an olympic sized swimming pool" controversy, so it seems that the level of usada testing is soo sensitive that it could catch the slightest bit of something.
-Anyone going to tune into the Diaz/Paul boxing fight?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6fAo6bsqSY
It feels like Diaz is trying to let everything slide of his shoulders when being trash talked. Weird how he focuses in on Paul's lackys more than paul himself.
I'm kind of leaning Paul. It's his wheelhouse. He has most, if not all, the advantages. And Nate is a bit of a weathered warrior. Part of the narratives of a "Diaz brother never actually loses a fight" and them being portrayed as "tough" or "real" fighters compared to everyone else who also competes is something I've never really liked. But I could see why people love them. If Nates starts relying on his toughness too much and eats a lot of shots, I could see the ref stepping in. But maybe his volume could get to Paul, or just leave himself open to a power right from him.
^Everyone is saying the chander/mcgregor fight is dead now, but I think it still has legs. Chandler is an energetic beast when he needs to be. That clip of Mcgregor shuving him, then him getting all hyped still makes me want to see it. Its interesting: if Conor really did do steroids, though — can't blame him cause he was nursing a broken bone — it's just going to show up in the drug testing. I remember the Jon jones "pinch of salt in an olympic sized swimming pool" controversy, so it seems that the level of usada testing is soo sensitive that it could catch the slightest bit of something.
-Anyone going to tune into the Diaz/Paul boxing fight?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6fAo6bsqSY
It feels like Diaz is trying to let everything slide of his shoulders when being trash talked. Weird how he focuses in on Paul's lackys more than paul himself.
I'm kind of leaning Paul. It's his wheelhouse. He has most, if not all, the advantages. And Nate is a bit of a weathered warrior. Part of the narratives of a "Diaz brother never actually loses a fight" and them being portrayed as "tough" or "real" fighters compared to everyone else who also competes is something I've never really liked. But I could see why people love them. If Nates starts relying on his toughness too much and eats a lot of shots, I could see the ref stepping in. But maybe his volume could get to Paul, or just leave himself open to a power right from him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3qVs53XZRY
I feel like this fight went super under the radar. They were trading hard from the jump and the crowd was DEAD!
side note: I'm so stoked there's fellow MMA nerds here <3 I'm on the sherdog forums too and that place is a cess pool (yes, even more than slap.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3qVs53XZRY
I feel like this fight went super under the radar. They were trading hard from the jump and the crowd was DEAD!
side note: I'm so stoked there's fellow MMA nerds here <3 I'm on the sherdog forums too and that place is a cess pool (yes, even more than slap.)
^Everyone is saying the chander/mcgregor fight is dead now, but I think it still has legs. Chandler is an energetic beast when he needs to be. That clip of Mcgregor shuving him, then him getting all hyped still makes me want to see it. Its interesting: if Conor really did do steroids, though — can't blame him cause he was nursing a broken bone — it's just going to show up in the drug testing. I remember the Jon jones "pinch of salt in an olympic sized swimming pool" controversy, so it seems that the level of usada testing is soo sensitive that it could catch the slightest bit of something.
-Anyone going to tune into the Diaz/Paul boxing fight?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6fAo6bsqSY
It feels like Diaz is trying to let everything slide of his shoulders when being trash talked. Weird how he focuses in on Paul's lackys more than paul himself.
I'm kind of leaning Paul. It's his wheelhouse. He has most, if not all, the advantages. And Nate is a bit of a weathered warrior. Part of the narratives of a "Diaz brother never actually loses a fight" and them being portrayed as "tough" or "real" fighters compared to everyone else who also competes is something I've never really liked. But I could see why people love them. If Nates starts relying on his toughness too much and eats a lot of shots, I could see the ref stepping in. But maybe his volume could get to Paul, or just leave himself open to a power right from him.
https://bloodyelbow.com/2023/08/06/jake-paul-vs-nate-diaz-live-results-pbp/
2nd half of the Diaz brothers career has been a disappointing shit show.
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2nd half of the Diaz brothers career has been a disappointing shit show.[close]
I agree, both of them are washed up. Idk about shit show though, I think a couple L's in your mid to late 30's is expected. Nate looked rough in there at some points, but the other side is that's kinda his style. He's always looked kinda sloppy, weird angles and timing. I went to bed right after the fight ended, I'm sure he's bitching about the decision lol.
I saw a little of the Under card matches… i wanted to sit and watch, but didn’t want to be rude to the person i was with lol
I know i know not mma or boxing, but Tim Anderson of the white Sox and Jose Ramirez of the guardians squared up last night… Jose’s right hook connected lol
https://youtu.be/rzXee4hWv2Q
-The Diaz/Paul outcome wasn't too surprising. Diaz really didn't look like much of a boxer. It was clear he went to fight, and not to box (if that makes sense). I did think that Paul was going to lay him out, though, but didn't. Seemed like everyone had fun. Both sides are talking about rematching in mma, but not sure how it'd work considering one side is with PFL and Diaz has been talking about returning to the ufc. Remarkably, I don't think it totally even damaged Nate's rep. Strange how he has an ability to do poorly but people still love him. I really enjoyed the combination of Dan Hardy and Sean Porter on commentary, too.he didn’t do poorly? he won 2 rounds and jake was obviously getting very drained. i wish it was 12 rounds or more, nate truly is a cardio freak being 12 years older, making his boxing debut, having taken so much damage for so many years, nate did great.
-Caught some of the Sandhagen/Font card. Sandhagen dominated on the ground, which didn't make for exciting stuff, but was still impressive. The crowd hated it. I hate how they demand a bloodbath. Dana white apparently walked out of the arena mid fight, as well. I wish Sandhagen wasn't so apologetic to them in the immediate post fight interview. This is where pro-wrestling dynamics could have come into play, where he could of heel turned and owned his performance.
I saw a little of the Under card matches… i wanted to sit and watch, but didn’t want to be rude to the person i was with lol
I know i know not mma or boxing, but Tim Anderson of the white Sox and Jose Ramirez of the guardians squared up last night… Jose’s right hook connected lol
https://youtu.be/rzXee4hWv2Q
aljo vs o'malley tonight - i'm pumped for this card! my brain says Aljo is going to wrestle fuck Sean, but my heart really wants to see him knock Aljo out. a lot of other good fights on the card too!looks like we got what we wanted here. i was one of the guys who really did not like sean for a long time but, he’s really grown on me. he’s a showman and has his obvious cringe attached to him for sure but he really just comes off as a shy kid who found his calling & is having fun with it. chito rematch should be great. ian garry on the other hand needs to cool it, he’s losing a lot of fans with his antics. should’ve gotten a finish on saturday as well if he wants to be the star he says he is.
met Forest Griffin at the restaurant I work at tonight. I was in the kitchen when a buddy who works with me who's also a huge fan of the sport came up to me and did the classic, "DUDE, YOU'LL NEVER BELIEVE WHO'S AT THE BAR... FORREST GRIFFIN!" I for sure thought he was mistaken, so I walk out, and sure enough, its him. As soon as I saw him I knew it was him.
dude, I was STOKED. not in a way that made me want to rush him or anything like that, but that guy is a legit legend. he played a part in shaping the sport. former UFC champion. I have been fortunate enough to meet a few people of note in my life, people I've genuinely looked up to... when I was younger I have fanned out, but the older I get, if I can shake that person's hand and say, "thanks," that's more than enough for me. shaking that dude's hand is up there.
after dropping food off to a person next to him at the bar, I used that as an opportunity to say hello, shake his hand, and say thanks for all that he's done for the sport. he graciously said thank you back, and that was it. didn't try and grab a photo with him, and neither did anyone else. my buddy however got an autograph. I don't blame him.
the crazy thing is; I don't live in a super popular city. yes, people come through from time to time, but it's not an Orlando or Miami. totally unexpected. I also wasn't supposed to work tonight, but picked up a shift on a whim. the money I made is secondary. from what I heard there's a bjj tournament in town, so who knows if he was coaching someone, or maybe talent scouting.
crazy.
Expand Quotemet Forest Griffin at the restaurant I work at tonight. I was in the kitchen when a buddy who works with me who's also a huge fan of the sport came up to me and did the classic, "DUDE, YOU'LL NEVER BELIEVE WHO'S AT THE BAR... FORREST GRIFFIN!" I for sure thought he was mistaken, so I walk out, and sure enough, its him. As soon as I saw him I knew it was him.
dude, I was STOKED. not in a way that made me want to rush him or anything like that, but that guy is a legit legend. he played a part in shaping the sport. former UFC champion. I have been fortunate enough to meet a few people of note in my life, people I've genuinely looked up to... when I was younger I have fanned out, but the older I get, if I can shake that person's hand and say, "thanks," that's more than enough for me. shaking that dude's hand is up there.
after dropping food off to a person next to him at the bar, I used that as an opportunity to say hello, shake his hand, and say thanks for all that he's done for the sport. he graciously said thank you back, and that was it. didn't try and grab a photo with him, and neither did anyone else. my buddy however got an autograph. I don't blame him.
the crazy thing is; I don't live in a super popular city. yes, people come through from time to time, but it's not an Orlando or Miami. totally unexpected. I also wasn't supposed to work tonight, but picked up a shift on a whim. the money I made is secondary. from what I heard there's a bjj tournament in town, so who knows if he was coaching someone, or maybe talent scouting.
crazy.[close]
That's so tight, he really is a legend. I read his book a while back and he was super funny and humble and down to earth. I think Rashad Evans said "If you don't like Forrest, you don't like people" and that came through in the book for sure. Props on keeping your cool too and letting him live. I probably would have done some kooky shit posing for a pic with my fist up or something
Sean Strickland completely shut down Izzy’s game with basics.I won $5 on Sean!
Damn good performance for him.
I have to say, Strickland has grown on me the last few years and I've let a lot of the dumb shit he says slide. I'm happy for him.
His style is the weirdest fucking thing I've seen in MMA. He's got a weird Philly Shell thing going on, but he just keeps charging forward? Strange, but I like it.
Also, I don't think Izzy recovered from that knockdown in the first. That was a stiff-ass shot he took right on the chin and then ate some more brutal follow-up shots.
I know there's a few refs that could have stopped it right there
met Forest Griffin at the restaurant I work at tonight. I was in the kitchen when a buddy who works with me who's also a huge fan of the sport came up to me and did the classic, "DUDE, YOU'LL NEVER BELIEVE WHO'S AT THE BAR... FORREST GRIFFIN!" I for sure thought he was mistaken, so I walk out, and sure enough, its him. As soon as I saw him I knew it was him.that’s awesome. his fight with stephan bonnar actually did save the ufc. they were going broke & on the verge of selling when that fight happened and saved them by being literally the best fight ever. r.i.p. stephan.
dude, I was STOKED. not in a way that made me want to rush him or anything like that, but that guy is a legit legend. he played a part in shaping the sport. former UFC champion. I have been fortunate enough to meet a few people of note in my life, people I've genuinely looked up to... when I was younger I have fanned out, but the older I get, if I can shake that person's hand and say, "thanks," that's more than enough for me. shaking that dude's hand is up there.
after dropping food off to a person next to him at the bar, I used that as an opportunity to say hello, shake his hand, and say thanks for all that he's done for the sport. he graciously said thank you back, and that was it. didn't try and grab a photo with him, and neither did anyone else. my buddy however got an autograph. I don't blame him.
the crazy thing is; I don't live in a super popular city. yes, people come through from time to time, but it's not an Orlando or Miami. totally unexpected. I also wasn't supposed to work tonight, but picked up a shift on a whim. the money I made is secondary. from what I heard there's a bjj tournament in town, so who knows if he was coaching someone, or maybe talent scouting.
crazy.
Expand QuoteI have to say, Strickland has grown on me the last few years and I've let a lot of the dumb shit he says slide. I'm happy for him.
His style is the weirdest fucking thing I've seen in MMA. He's got a weird Philly Shell thing going on, but he just keeps charging forward? Strange, but I like it.[close]
His forward pressure was super effective also. Izzy could never find his range and kept backing up all fight. Even in the final minute of the last round Izzy seemed like he was running away.
Also, I don't think Izzy recovered from that knockdown in the first. That was a stiff-ass shot he took right on the chin and then ate some more brutal follow-up shots.
I know there's a few refs that could have stopped it right there
i didn’t see a boxing thread/didn’t want to start a new one just for this. plus ngannou is crossing over so i figured this will be the best place to post about it but… holy shit! did anyone see it going that way??! i obviously always knew ngannou had a “puncher’s chance” in this, especially being the man with the hardest recorded punch of all time. i thought if anything he would have one big moment of maybe landing a counter & stunning fury for a second. other than that i thought he would just get out-worked/pointed throughout the entire fight. maybe win a round or 2 just barely. he looked absolutely sensational in there tonight, especially for someone who has never boxed whose going up against the heavyweight champ of the world. to put on that performance is absolutely insane. i think he arguably could’ve won, especially with that 10-8. the knockdown was beautiful. that went far and beyond anyone’s expectations.
with that said, what do you all think is the move? should he just stay in boxing, go back to pfl and book a big fight or try to balance the 2? if i was dana i’m doing whatever i can to get him back into the ufc. i would apologize immensely to francis & let the grudge go, pay off the pfl no matter what it takes, offer francis whatever he asks for and more, all the while letting jon jones heal & then book that fight. after tonight i think that fight could far surpass any ppv they could do at this point other than a conor return. it might even be up there close to that/past conor events. that was remarkable. francis is the biggest inspiration in combat sports right now by miles.
nah it’s for sure rigged. giving tyson a 96-93 was ridiculous. i can’t for sure say that francis was holding back, i figured maybe he thought he was up going into the last rounds & possibly just held back a bit to not risk getting knocked down/out so that he could win the decision. he did seem to be really going for it in those next rounds after getting the knockdown & then slowed down a bit. i wish he would’ve reserved a bit more in the mid rounds & then really gone for it later once tyson was obviously winded. i’m not saying you’re wrong though or that i disagree, dazn put on the fight & all of their events have been trash so far. i expected tommy to get robbed agaisnt ksi though too & was really surprised when that didn’t happen. maybe they’re in cahoots with the fury’s. tyson did land more total punches, francis landed more power shots though & that was very visible at the end when comparing visible damage. nevertheless, it was an entertaining fight & apparently francis is going to be ranked in the top 10 now, rightfully so. boxing has been a rigged shit show for quite a while now & every combat sports event that takes place in the middle east seems to be so as well. just look ufc 294 that just happened. i think they should run this one back.Expand Quotei didn’t see a boxing thread/didn’t want to start a new one just for this. plus ngannou is crossing over so i figured this will be the best place to post about it but… holy shit! did anyone see it going that way??! i obviously always knew ngannou had a “puncher’s chance” in this, especially being the man with the hardest recorded punch of all time. i thought if anything he would have one big moment of maybe landing a counter & stunning fury for a second. other than that i thought he would just get out-worked/pointed throughout the entire fight. maybe win a round or 2 just barely. he looked absolutely sensational in there tonight, especially for someone who has never boxed whose going up against the heavyweight champ of the world. to put on that performance is absolutely insane. i think he arguably could’ve won, especially with that 10-8. the knockdown was beautiful. that went far and beyond anyone’s expectations.
with that said, what do you all think is the move? should he just stay in boxing, go back to pfl and book a big fight or try to balance the 2? if i was dana i’m doing whatever i can to get him back into the ufc. i would apologize immensely to francis & let the grudge go, pay off the pfl no matter what it takes, offer francis whatever he asks for and more, all the while letting jon jones heal & then book that fight. after tonight i think that fight could far surpass any ppv they could do at this point other than a conor return. it might even be up there close to that/past conor events. that was remarkable. francis is the biggest inspiration in combat sports right now by miles.[close]
my brother... I have so many thoughts about this whole situation and mma/ pro boxing crossovers as a whole....
the way I see it, these, "mma star vs. celeb/ pro boxer," matches are basically the new age celeb boxing. there's a ton of money behind both parties in their respective fields, and NOW FOR ONE NIGHT ONLY they're going to clash. it's a cash grab. these boxing stars would never ever ever in a million years step into a cage with these dudes who do mma, BUT these mma guys who have been making shit for 10+ years would 100% step in a boxing ring.
boxing has a very long and storied history when it comes to the promoters, the money behind it, and the judging and talent that's being pushed. it is a sport that is notorious for bad judging and deep, deep organized crime ties and gambling. when I see a fight like this being promoted so hard; so many different media companies are invested, hell, they're throwing this fight in a country known for being one of the richest countries in the world... celebrities are speckled about the sporting event... I look at it as what it is, a spectacle.
this was a celeb boxing match... so are the fights that all of the paul brothers do. its a farce. there is so much money behind all these fights and fighters, so much gambling involved. think about this...
you could bet on fury vs. ngannou... the odds at the time of the match were something like fury - 1400 to ngannou +750.
those are INSANE odds for a professional sport event... you don't think the powers-that-be who are throwing this professional fight are going to extort that?
idk dude, I've watched thousands upon thousands of hours of combat sports and something just seems off about this fight.... I noticed so many moments where Francis had Fury against the ropes and the right hand was open, multiple times! I even got a text from my brother saying that he thought Francis was holding back... there are so many moments in that fight that don't make sense if you know fighting and what to look for. I mean, they took the whole 10th round off! both of them, in a, "closely contested fight," took the 10th round off and danced around each other.
I am a combat sports fan, but when it comes to these high-profile professional boxing matches, I have very little faith that they are legitimate contests in sport.
Watched some videos of Chael Sonnen shit talking. Seemed like something happened to him mid career. Why did he start talking shit so much? Because he didnt cut it as fighter? Anyways he has a pretty good mouth..
Can someone give me perspective why he got as many chances as he got for tittle fights?
If there were a fight between Sonne and Mcgregor, who would win the press conference and who would win the fight?
Dustin Poirer vs Beniot Saint Denis just got announced for UFC 299 in Miami! My brother and I have been talking about going, but gosh dern ticket prices are INSANE! almost $500 each for nose bleed seats! The card looks absolutely unreal though:i would go if i had the money and lived out there, that card is absolutely insane.
https://www.ufc.com/event/ufc-299
O'Malley vs Chito 2
Dustin vs Beniot
Michael Venom Page vs Kevin Holland
Petr Yan vs Song Yadong
soooo many crazy fights, but those ticket prices are nuts. they're $1300+ for floor seats :o
Sean and DDP both had huge upsets in their last fights so it’s wild that neither can be counted out this weekend. I think DDP pulls it off but I want Sean to win.i’m going with sean as long as he gets through the first 2 rounds not too damaged, i think his stamina will be a huge factor as long as he makes it through the hellfire in the beginning.
did anyone catch the absolute dismantling of Cameron Saaiman at the hands of Payton Talbott over the weekend? Payton beat the ever-living dogshit out of Cameron from start to finish. Talbott is the real deal. if you haven't watched the fight, please, go watch it. Payton has future champion written all over him. seems like a cool dude too and he also skates.
UFC 300 is upon us! I'm pretty fookin' hyped for this card. I do think it will live up to the hype. What are everyone's thoughts and predictions? I see Jamahal Hill getting it done. He is way better and more technically skilled than people are giving him credit for. Pereira stands straight up and down and isn't going to have a massive size advantage... speaking of massive size... Aljo looks HUGE!
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Gonna just post here because I don't pay attention to any "combat sports", so excuse my boxing comment, but hopefully ya'll wanna weigh-in. Do you guys think Tyson is gonna light up that kid from the jump or drag it out like McGregor v Mayweather? I don't know if it's the social media guy or his brother or if they both do it or whatever the fuck, don't even want to build his rank in google to remember. I think/hope Tyson is likely to go for the kill and legit end him rather than drag it out. It's what he's known for, beating the ever living fuck out of people. And to give this guy a chance and make him look good, when Tyson fought some of the greats and they had to fight for their life to get as far as they could. I don't see Tyson wanting to give that to him, and I don't see him being happy to let some kid come into his sport and pretend he can hang. If Tyson is coming back, you'd think he'd want to perform the only way he knows, and the mother fucker is still fast and powerful as fuck. I don't think any amount of money could get me to try and last 10 seconds with Iron Mike, I'd be too scared his fist would go through my skull and turn me into a vegetable that couldn't enjoy spending the money.
Expand QuoteGonna just post here because I don't pay attention to any "combat sports", so excuse my boxing comment, but hopefully ya'll wanna weigh-in. Do you guys think Tyson is gonna light up that kid from the jump or drag it out like McGregor v Mayweather? I don't know if it's the social media guy or his brother or if they both do it or whatever the fuck, don't even want to build his rank in google to remember. I think/hope Tyson is likely to go for the kill and legit end him rather than drag it out. It's what he's known for, beating the ever living fuck out of people. And to give this guy a chance and make him look good, when Tyson fought some of the greats and they had to fight for their life to get as far as they could. I don't see Tyson wanting to give that to him, and I don't see him being happy to let some kid come into his sport and pretend he can hang. If Tyson is coming back, you'd think he'd want to perform the only way he knows, and the mother fucker is still fast and powerful as fuck. I don't think any amount of money could get me to try and last 10 seconds with Iron Mike, I'd be too scared his fist would go through my skull and turn me into a vegetable that couldn't enjoy spending the money.[close]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGzcGEfDJzY&ab_channel=TheWeasle
Pretty good summary, Tyson knows he's there for a payday and to make everyone look good.
300 picks (very difficult)
alex by ko/tko late in round 2. he’s going to leg kick the fuck out of hill until he’s practically immobile and has no pop on his shots. frustrate hill into being overly aggressive the way jiri did and gets caught.
zhang by unanimous decision.
max by split or majority decision or possibly a tko in round 2. (hardest fight to pick and did a lot of back and forth deciding, will be fotn no question.)
charles by ko in round 2.
bo sub either late in 1 or early in 2z
jiri by ko round 3.
aljo either by decision or by late sub.
kayla by decision after a fucking snooze fest. really want to say holly ko’s but she’s much older and smaller & i think the takedowns and wrestling will wind her.
lopez either sub or ground n pound in round 3.
moicano comes back by sub late in 2 or mid 3 after getting nearly ko’d by some shots multiple times.
marina by close decision.
miller by sub late in 3 after taking a lot of shots early and then wearing bobby down.
cody round 2 ko after making figgy chase him a bit and wearing him out. also will be doing his usual cody dances when figgy misses which will piss figgy off to the point of rushing and getting caught.
still not confident in these but, gotta stick with it. this card was already set to be the best card ever, now with the bonuses getting 6x to $300,000 you know every single person is going to be going for the kill. i can not wait.
I’m excited for this one…. Pretty fun card. Zhang vs Xiaonan they both can throw hands or take it to the ground...
I'm rooting for Holloway.... dude is tough.
Might be in the minority, but also rooting for garbrandt.
very much agree on jalin/moicano and holloway/gaethje takes. jailn will be very dangerous early but he cuts so much weight he’s gassed in the later rounds, we saw hooker take advantage of that and get the win same with gamrot. he could hardly speak at the presser he’s so drained out. his ground game is also incomparable to moicano’s & he has a very long neck to be latched onto.Expand Quote300 picks (very difficult)
alex by ko/tko late in round 2. he’s going to leg kick the fuck out of hill until he’s practically immobile and has no pop on his shots. frustrate hill into being overly aggressive the way jiri did and gets caught.
zhang by unanimous decision.
max by split or majority decision or possibly a tko in round 2. (hardest fight to pick and did a lot of back and forth deciding, will be fotn no question.)
charles by ko in round 2.
bo sub either late in 1 or early in 2z
jiri by ko round 3.
aljo either by decision or by late sub.
kayla by decision after a fucking snooze fest. really want to say holly ko’s but she’s much older and smaller & i think the takedowns and wrestling will wind her.
lopez either sub or ground n pound in round 3.
moicano comes back by sub late in 2 or mid 3 after getting nearly ko’d by some shots multiple times.
marina by close decision.
miller by sub late in 3 after taking a lot of shots early and then wearing bobby down.
cody round 2 ko after making figgy chase him a bit and wearing him out. also will be doing his usual cody dances when figgy misses which will piss figgy off to the point of rushing and getting caught.
still not confident in these but, gotta stick with it. this card was already set to be the best card ever, now with the bonuses getting 6x to $300,000 you know every single person is going to be going for the kill. i can not wait.[close]
great picks @shouldn't - one thing I picked up on from Jalin Turner's media day interview was him saying he doesn't think Moicano is as tough as Dan Hooker... I guess he's never seen Moicano vs RDA. Renato is one of the toughest dudes on the roster. I think his experience and skill is going to help get it done. I don't see Turner knocking him out and I think Renato is going to drown him.
I too am going back and forth on Max vs Justin, but my heart is leaning toward Max. Not only would it be awesome to see him with the win, but I think he's going to hurt Justin and then swarm him. People are acting like this is a death sentence for Max but Max has only lost to Poirier (on a short notice fight a weight class up) and Volk in the last 5 years. Justin has been finished a few times and Max has never even been knocked down.
I do think Jahmal Hill is going to knock out Alex though. Alex stands straight up and down with his chin in the air, and Hill is so damn precise. He is being massively overlooked too.
I'm getting more and more excited for this card. I even released my shift at work Saturday night, and I got a notification that a new guy that started picked it up... only to cancel the pick up!!! All these mf'rs say they want to work until they get the chance to work! The prelims will be on in the dining room while I'm working so I'll be able to keep one eye on them.
I'm so stoked that there are some other die hard fans here!
Expand QuoteI’m excited for this one…. Pretty fun card. Zhang vs Xiaonan they both can throw hands or take it to the ground...
I'm rooting for Holloway.... dude is tough.
Might be in the minority, but also rooting for garbrandt.[close]
I'm right there with you for Cody. His masterclass was against Cruz was one of the best performances ever.
I would love another title run out of him. But his chin has deteriorated greatly since the two TJ losses, and defence has never been his strength. Hope he beats Figgy.
no because he was stinging figgy on the feet which led to him going for the takedown and eventually getting the sub. if you watch the first round it’s easily cody’s with him out striking figgy and getting to the punch quicker. it’s the same as the moicano/turner fight, turner nearly ko’d moicano in round one but then got overpowered and eventually tko’d. the matchmaker at ufc needs to just give jalin and cody striker matchups, i know it can’t be tailor made but they have zero ground game and that’s been proven. jalin kos green (who beat the fuck out jim miller tonight on the feet) and cody still kos lower level competition and would have beaten figgy tonight if it didn’t go to the ground.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI’m excited for this one…. Pretty fun card. Zhang vs Xiaonan they both can throw hands or take it to the ground...
I'm rooting for Holloway.... dude is tough.
Might be in the minority, but also rooting for garbrandt.[close]
I'm right there with you for Cody. His masterclass was against Cruz was one of the best performances ever.
I would love another title run out of him. But his chin has deteriorated greatly since the two TJ losses, and defence has never been his strength. Hope he beats Figgy.[close]
Vs Cruz one of my all time fav fights... the trash talk leading up to that one was so good.
Minor spoilers ufc 300:
Damn. Cody lost tonight via submission.... think that's it for him?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI’m excited for this one…. Pretty fun card. Zhang vs Xiaonan they both can throw hands or take it to the ground...
I'm rooting for Holloway.... dude is tough.
Might be in the minority, but also rooting for garbrandt.[close]
I'm right there with you for Cody. His masterclass was against Cruz was one of the best performances ever.
I would love another title run out of him. But his chin has deteriorated greatly since the two TJ losses, and defence has never been his strength. Hope he beats Figgy.[close]
Vs Cruz one of my all time fav fights... the trash talk leading up to that one was so good.
Minor spoilers ufc 300:
Damn. Cody lost tonight via submission.... think that's it for him?
That picture of Kayla Harrison prompted me to bring this up:
How does everyone feel about fighters being on the juice? Nate Diaz said it best, "everyone's on steroids." It seems like the top-level guys and champions get away with it the most. A telltale sign is these big fat faces everyone has with these extra flaps of skin in their cheeks and around their nose. That is a sign of HGH use. During weight cuts it becomes even more apparent; dudes and lady-dudes are completely sucked in and drained out, but they still have these puffy saggy faces.
What I think they're doing is using designer peptides that are virtually undetectable because of them being designer in nature. From my understanding, peptides can act as hormones and they're all the rage in sports these days.
O'Malley is a super noticeable offender because of how lean he is, but his face has ballooned up over the last couple years:
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Kayla is undeniably on the sauce (or was) and you can tell by how much extra skin she has around her face:
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Does it matter to you if these fighters are juicing or not? If you pay attention, you can see fighters with overgrown skin on their faces and fighters who don't.
Expand QuoteThat picture of Kayla Harrison prompted me to bring this up:
How does everyone feel about fighters being on the juice? Nate Diaz said it best, "everyone's on steroids." It seems like the top-level guys and champions get away with it the most. A telltale sign is these big fat faces everyone has with these extra flaps of skin in their cheeks and around their nose. That is a sign of HGH use. During weight cuts it becomes even more apparent; dudes and lady-dudes are completely sucked in and drained out, but they still have these puffy saggy faces.
What I think they're doing is using designer peptides that are virtually undetectable because of them being designer in nature. From my understanding, peptides can act as hormones and they're all the rage in sports these days.
O'Malley is a super noticeable offender because of how lean he is, but his face has ballooned up over the last couple years:
(https://middleeasy.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Sean-O-Malley-1.jpg)
(https://staticg.sportskeeda.com/editor/2023/08/61040-16923970061052-1920.jpg)
Kayla is undeniably on the sauce (or was) and you can tell by how much extra skin she has around her face:
(https://image-cdn.essentiallysports.com/wp-content/uploads/Kayla-Harrison-5.jpg?width=600)
Does it matter to you if these fighters are juicing or not? If you pay attention, you can see fighters with overgrown skin on their faces and fighters who don't.[close]
Very interesting - I had never considered O'Malley being on HGH or peptides, but I do believe that at least 90% of the top guys are taking something illegal - Chandler, McGregor, Jones, Usman, Du Plessis being some of the most obvious examples.
Do I care? Not really because I think it's so widespread that it truly is a somewhat level playing field. When dudes like Anderson Silva and Tim Sylvia pop but Paulo Costa and Yoel Romero can skate through with mostly no problems, it kinda shows how fucked up the system with USADA is and how much a crapshoot it is. I also love the Diaz bros but think they've been on EPO forever.
Side note - I've heard someone on here suggest that AVE was on TRT, and if he is, well more power to him. Wecking ball and Biebel for sure have their cycles going. Any other skaters open about taking test or anything harder?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThat picture of Kayla Harrison prompted me to bring this up:
How does everyone feel about fighters being on the juice? Nate Diaz said it best, "everyone's on steroids." It seems like the top-level guys and champions get away with it the most. A telltale sign is these big fat faces everyone has with these extra flaps of skin in their cheeks and around their nose. That is a sign of HGH use. During weight cuts it becomes even more apparent; dudes and lady-dudes are completely sucked in and drained out, but they still have these puffy saggy faces.
What I think they're doing is using designer peptides that are virtually undetectable because of them being designer in nature. From my understanding, peptides can act as hormones and they're all the rage in sports these days.
O'Malley is a super noticeable offender because of how lean he is, but his face has ballooned up over the last couple years:
(https://middleeasy.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Sean-O-Malley-1.jpg)
(https://staticg.sportskeeda.com/editor/2023/08/61040-16923970061052-1920.jpg)
Kayla is undeniably on the sauce (or was) and you can tell by how much extra skin she has around her face:
(https://image-cdn.essentiallysports.com/wp-content/uploads/Kayla-Harrison-5.jpg?width=600)
Does it matter to you if these fighters are juicing or not? If you pay attention, you can see fighters with overgrown skin on their faces and fighters who don't.[close]
Very interesting - I had never considered O'Malley being on HGH or peptides, but I do believe that at least 90% of the top guys are taking something illegal - Chandler, McGregor, Jones, Usman, Du Plessis being some of the most obvious examples.
Do I care? Not really because I think it's so widespread that it truly is a somewhat level playing field. When dudes like Anderson Silva and Tim Sylvia pop but Paulo Costa and Yoel Romero can skate through with mostly no problems, it kinda shows how fucked up the system with USADA is and how much a crapshoot it is. I also love the Diaz bros but think they've been on EPO forever.
Side note - I've heard someone on here suggest that AVE was on TRT, and if he is, well more power to him. Wecking ball and Biebel for sure have their cycles going. Any other skaters open about taking test or anything harder?[close]
O'Malley popped for the SARM Ostarine and while he was recovering from a lisfranc fracture he sustained fighting Andre Soukhamthath and rode out a 2 year suspension.
http://youtu.be/SGAY6UQIWiQ
in this video, Derek from MPMD talks about the relationship between USADA and the Brazilian government. Essentially, these drug testing agencies outsource their testing to private companies based in the fighter's home countries. When you have a very famous fighter from a country like Brazil, or in Eastern Europe, and they have a lot of money behind them, it is more likely that some "fuckery is afoot."
https://youtu.be/TgJiRo-fWFY
If you've never seen these videos I highly suggest watching them. Really interesting stuff. Usman has two bum knees but somehow looks like he runs a marathon every day.
As for AVE being on TRT... I'm literally counting down the time until I can get on it myself. I'll be 35 next year, and I have noticed a dip in my test levels, energy, motivation, and ability to burn fat. I have nothing against TRT, especially because with TRT you are more likely to lead a healthy lifestyle. I've been researching and learning about TRT since I was 29.
@aleksander - If you are over the age of 30 or in your mid 30s to 40s, TRT (when done properly) could greatly increase your quality of life. BTW - Biebel has to be on more than just TRT. There is a difference between TRT and full blown anabolic steroid use.
@aleksander - DUDE! you're actually on it!? I'm going to lay out some questions and I hope you don't mind answering them. your time is truly appreciated answering these! Please don't feel obligated to answer any of these if they are too personal, but I think I am ready to get on it too. I am happy to read you say that you wish you had started sooner.
What led you to finally pull the trigger and get on it?
What are the most beneficial things you have noticed since you've been on it?
Have you noticed any hair thinning or acceleration in male pattern baldness if you have it already? That is one of my biggest fears about it since I have already done a lot of damage to my hair due to a few years of living an unhealthy lifestyle. I say I am worried about that, but I love buzzing my head and sometimes even shaving down to the scalp (although I haven't done that in a few years.) I guess the permanence of losing it is what worries me.
How has it affected your sex drive and libido?
What is your monthly cost for TRT?
What has it done for your skating if you are still skating?
Have you noticed that it is easier to burn body fat and build muscle?
You mentioned it changed your thinking as well... is that in how sharp you think?
What is your route of administration? If it is injections, are you used to them yet? - if you don't want to answer this question I understand.
Thanks again for taking the time!
Great info. I appreciate the transparency. longterm wise, is it something you have to take forever? Or do you cycle it?
Expand QuoteGreat info. I appreciate the transparency. longterm wise, is it something you have to take forever? Or do you cycle it?[close]
Ahh, for sure, hope it is informative and helps someone. There's a weird stigma around it because so many jock bozos are drawn to it and people always equate it with hardcore steroids (and I was guilty of the same), but honestly I'd recommend trt to anyone who's getting up there in age and still wants to be as active as possible.
Some people do cycle it or do a "blast and cruise," but that's kind of out of my league or anything I'm interested in. Some people eventually stop and there are ways to taper off and other meds to use, but it did me so much good mentally, like way better than SSRIs, that I'm fine with taking it for the long haul.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteGreat info. I appreciate the transparency. longterm wise, is it something you have to take forever? Or do you cycle it?[close]
Ahh, for sure, hope it is informative and helps someone. There's a weird stigma around it because so many jock bozos are drawn to it and people always equate it with hardcore steroids (and I was guilty of the same), but honestly I'd recommend trt to anyone who's getting up there in age and still wants to be as active as possible.
Some people do cycle it or do a "blast and cruise," but that's kind of out of my league or anything I'm interested in. Some people eventually stop and there are ways to taper off and other meds to use, but it did me so much good mentally, like way better than SSRIs, that I'm fine with taking it for the long haul.[close]
man, again, thank you for taking the time to respond. I've talked to a few different people here and there about TRT, but they were very much what you would call a meathead, haha. great people though.
I am kind of in the same place you were; I keep putting this arbitrary number on what age I should start it. I got my levels tested 3 years ago and they were right at 550, so basically right in the middle. I am a naturally tall and slender person, but I have more body fat on me than I ever have and it all sits right in the middle of me. I am having the hardest time burning it off, especially because my cardio is limited due to my knee issues. I don't eat like shit and I am not an alcoholic, but it is genetics. I get a little belly just like the rest of the men in my family.
when I have been on these crazy gym benders training HIIT 5 times a week and doing an hour of cardio every day, my life, my mind, everything worked so much better. when you go from skateboarding 8 hours a day for 15 years to not being able to run, it really fucks you up. My issue is not being able to find the motivation to even get into the gym. I used to force myself to take pre-workout because I knew that if I took it I wouldn't be able to sit still and I would have to work out... I don't want to be in that headspace when it comes to exercise.
I think I am going to make a call to a few men's clinics locally and give it a shot.
thanks again, @aleksander - you might see a PM from me in the future regarding some kickboxing techniques.
That picture of Kayla Harrison prompted me to bring this up:
How does everyone feel about fighters being on the juice?
O'Malley is a super noticeable offender because of how lean he is, but his face has ballooned up over the last couple years:
(https://middleeasy.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Sean-O-Malley-1.jpg)
(https://staticg.sportskeeda.com/editor/2023/08/61040-16923970061052-1920.jpg)
Kayla is undeniably on the sauce (or was) and you can tell by how much extra skin she has around her face:
(https://image-cdn.essentiallysports.com/wp-content/uploads/Kayla-Harrison-5.jpg?width=600)
Expand QuoteThat picture of Kayla Harrison prompted me to bring this up:
How does everyone feel about fighters being on the juice?
O'Malley is a super noticeable offender because of how lean he is, but his face has ballooned up over the last couple years:
(https://middleeasy.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Sean-O-Malley-1.jpg)
(https://staticg.sportskeeda.com/editor/2023/08/61040-16923970061052-1920.jpg)
Kayla is undeniably on the sauce (or was) and you can tell by how much extra skin she has around her face:
(https://image-cdn.essentiallysports.com/wp-content/uploads/Kayla-Harrison-5.jpg?width=600)[close]
@fineslime I don't like that fighters are on the juice, and that it is so normalised. The consequences of being at a disadvantage and subsequently losing a MMA fight can have significant effects. One KO or concussion can change someone's career trajectory and health for life. The severe repercussions make it that far more unethical.
I was glad when testing got introduced because it brought some level playing field to the game. But it still has a long way to go as many see it as an IQ test of how to work around it. The penalities to fighter's caught should be much greater.
Interesting spot on Suga, never would have suspected to him.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThat picture of Kayla Harrison prompted me to bring this up:
How does everyone feel about fighters being on the juice?
O'Malley is a super noticeable offender because of how lean he is, but his face has ballooned up over the last couple years:
(https://middleeasy.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Sean-O-Malley-1.jpg)
(https://staticg.sportskeeda.com/editor/2023/08/61040-16923970061052-1920.jpg)
Kayla is undeniably on the sauce (or was) and you can tell by how much extra skin she has around her face:
(https://image-cdn.essentiallysports.com/wp-content/uploads/Kayla-Harrison-5.jpg?width=600)[close]
@fineslime I don't like that fighters are on the juice, and that it is so normalised. The consequences of being at a disadvantage and subsequently losing a MMA fight can have significant effects. One KO or concussion can change someone's career trajectory and health for life. The severe repercussions make it that far more unethical.
I was glad when testing got introduced because it brought some level playing field to the game. But it still has a long way to go as many see it as an IQ test of how to work around it. The penalities to fighter's caught should be much greater.
Interesting spot on Suga, never would have suspected to him.[close]
I am completely with you about the consequences of getting hurt by someone on juice. I was genuinely angry when Josh Emmett KO'd Bryce Mitchell so badly he started sezieing, and no one called out Emmett for obviously being on steroids! Dude, Emmett's voice was deeper than it had ever been and his gyno is insane! I'm also on an MMA forum and I didn't see anyone talking about Josh being on steroids.
Emmett is almost 40 and he looks like that.
i know it’s boxing but, ryan garcia just trolled the world and then beat the fuck out of haney as a +500 underdog. this has to be mentioned. i picked him to win going in but, can’t legally bet here unfortunately. the ref was definitely trying to fuck ryan over and he still pulled it off. haney grabbing the entire fight, dropped 4 times. shame ryan can’t get the title for missing weight. dude has been completely unhinged and frankly embarrassing lately to the point that this fight was at risk of being cancelled due to ryan having a mental health evaluation and then he goes out there and makes it look easy. i really don’t pay attention to boxing at all unless it’s a big fight like this one which i think speaks a lot on how much he sold this fight, great performance.
Expand QuoteThat picture of Kayla Harrison prompted me to bring this up:
How does everyone feel about fighters being on the juice?
O'Malley is a super noticeable offender because of how lean he is, but his face has ballooned up over the last couple years:
(https://middleeasy.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Sean-O-Malley-1.jpg)
(https://staticg.sportskeeda.com/editor/2023/08/61040-16923970061052-1920.jpg)
Kayla is undeniably on the sauce (or was) and you can tell by how much extra skin she has around her face:
(https://image-cdn.essentiallysports.com/wp-content/uploads/Kayla-Harrison-5.jpg?width=600)[close]
@fineslime I don't like that fighters are on the juice, and that it is so normalised. The consequences of being at a disadvantage and subsequently losing a MMA fight can have significant effects. One KO or concussion can change someone's career trajectory and health for life. The severe repercussions make it that far more unethical.
I was glad when testing got introduced because it brought some level playing field to the game. But it still has a long way to go as many see it as an IQ test of how to work around it. The penalities to fighter's caught should be much greater.
Interesting spot on Suga, never would have suspected to him.
I didn't even think about the steroid thing, but I felt kinda sick watching Bryce get KO'd like that. Of course it's a fight he took on short notice and probably needed the money for. A TBI like that can wreck your life. Emmet was 3 months away from turning 39 in that fight, PEDs are the only way a dude that old is gonna be competitive.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThat picture of Kayla Harrison prompted me to bring this up:
How does everyone feel about fighters being on the juice?
O'Malley is a super noticeable offender because of how lean he is, but his face has ballooned up over the last couple years:
(https://middleeasy.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Sean-O-Malley-1.jpg)
(https://staticg.sportskeeda.com/editor/2023/08/61040-16923970061052-1920.jpg)
Kayla is undeniably on the sauce (or was) and you can tell by how much extra skin she has around her face:
(https://image-cdn.essentiallysports.com/wp-content/uploads/Kayla-Harrison-5.jpg?width=600)[close]
@fineslime I don't like that fighters are on the juice, and that it is so normalised. The consequences of being at a disadvantage and subsequently losing a MMA fight can have significant effects. One KO or concussion can change someone's career trajectory and health for life. The severe repercussions make it that far more unethical.
I was glad when testing got introduced because it brought some level playing field to the game. But it still has a long way to go as many see it as an IQ test of how to work around it. The penalities to fighter's caught should be much greater.
Interesting spot on Suga, never would have suspected to him.[close]
@Crust - thats the thing! no one expected Anderson either! no one suspects these long lanky guys. TJ Dillashaw was never suspected (really at least in the mainstream) but he popped super gnarly for EPO. there are tell-tale signs, like those big fat puffy faces with extra skin. I'm telling you, once you know, you will see it on all these high level fighters.