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Title: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: $$$$ on December 14, 2015, 04:29:13 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-wKTmtTPd_g

thought this was weird and I don't know how to embed a link on my phone
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: Aatila on December 14, 2015, 04:33:49 PM
he's been open on Christianity in the past so its not new news.  Wait why is this on here or why does it matter to you?
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: $$$$ on December 14, 2015, 04:38:23 PM
he's been open on Christianity in the past so its not new news.  Wait why is this on here or why does it matter to you?

damn I posted it in the wrong forum. I'm new gimme a break. not talking shit, just didn't know that. footage is rad though.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: ChuckRamone on December 14, 2015, 05:44:23 PM
I only learned about this recently too but there are quite a few jesus dudes in the skate world: ray barbee, christian hosoi, steve caballero, jamie thomas, and others.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: TMKF on December 14, 2015, 05:49:06 PM
I'll never understand why these topics exist. Tim Tim is a Christian, as many people and skateboarders are. I really don't understand why it's always looked down upon. Would you have started them topic if he were Muslim, Hindu or Buddhist? Probably not because then you'd be called a racist for saying it "weirded you out", but since he's Christian he's fair game. I don't get the double standard here.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: ChuckRamone on December 14, 2015, 06:00:03 PM
why can't it be a topic? that's equally weird. we're as free to criticize religion as people are to be religious. besides, I don't think the OP even meant anything negative necessarily. maybe it's just "weird" to him because it was unexpected. 
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: Rockin Robbin on December 14, 2015, 06:03:24 PM
Hey man, we're all entitled to our own imaginary friends.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: Kickflop on December 14, 2015, 06:05:42 PM
The Bad Boy from the O.C. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcuUSD4W9eU#)

Uploaded on Feb 4, 2008
This skateboarder from California grew up in a broken family. Then an acid trip took him down a very scary road. See how Chad's life did a 180.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: fulltechnicalskizzy on December 14, 2015, 06:08:17 PM
Why no one ever brings up Chad Tim Tim
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: tobey on December 14, 2015, 06:51:20 PM
He could be a Scientologist and i will still love him.

Also hes on team handsome, right?
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: G Spot on December 14, 2015, 07:10:15 PM
Yeah, he a good looking dude.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: doublesteveburger on December 14, 2015, 07:12:59 PM
I hope Tim Tim is the type of dude who owns a thinning scalp instead of hiding it like a shameful secret.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: Joust Ostrich on December 14, 2015, 07:34:23 PM
I'll never understand why these topics exist. Tim Tim is a Christian, as many people and skateboarders are. I really don't understand why it's always looked down upon. Would you have started them topic if he were Muslim, Hindu or Buddhist? Probably not because then you'd be called a racist for saying it "weirded you out", but since he's Christian he's fair game. I don't get the double standard here.

I would never call him a racist for making a thread about a Buddhist, Hindu, or Muslim.  But maybe that's just me.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: Lenny the Fatface on December 14, 2015, 07:40:50 PM
Yo Jesus is chill, you kill a nigga he come back and don't even trip that hard.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: $$$$ on December 14, 2015, 10:50:49 PM
I'll never understand why these topics exist. Tim Tim is a Christian, as many people and skateboarders are. I really don't understand why it's always looked down upon. Would you have started them topic if he were Muslim, Hindu or Buddhist? Probably not because then you'd be called a racist for saying it "weirded you out", but since he's Christian he's fair game. I don't get the double standard here.

as I said, not talking shit. to each their own.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on December 14, 2015, 11:24:38 PM
Honestly it doesn't worry me if people are Christian but keep their preaching to a minimum (i.e. Tim TIm)
What bothers me is when it becomes the focus of a company or they use their company/ fame to push Christian ideals/ beliefs (e.g. ZERO/ revive). Hosoi, at least on his instagram, is borderline for me (sidenote: his kids FUCKING RIP!!!). I almost wish he had a separate xian one, and one for his old skate pics/ nostalgia.

Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: lk130 on December 14, 2015, 11:27:59 PM
I'm a Christian im open about it, great post
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: sk8fool on December 14, 2015, 11:46:16 PM
Lance Mountain, Matt Beach, Donny Barley, Josh Kasper heaps of skaters are Christian they all appeared in a Christian skate video called livin it.

http://www.amazon.com/Livin-It-La-Christian-Hosoi/dp/097555381X (http://www.amazon.com/Livin-It-La-Christian-Hosoi/dp/097555381X)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEsVz3zn02w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEsVz3zn02w)
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: GeorgeHanson on December 15, 2015, 12:42:04 AM
Isn't this whole Jesus thing about fucking kids? Its just what I've heard. Why is this ok?
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: Esquivel on December 15, 2015, 12:54:27 AM
I'll never understand why these topics exist. Tim Tim is a Christian, as many people and skateboarders are. I really don't understand why it's always looked down upon. Would you have started them topic if he were Muslim, Hindu or Buddhist? Probably not because then you'd be called a racist for saying it "weirded you out", but since he's Christian he's fair game. I don't get the double standard here.


stop assuming.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: nowell on December 15, 2015, 01:55:08 AM
Isn't this whole Jesus thing about fucking kids? Its just what I've heard. Why is this ok?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VABSoHYQr6k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VABSoHYQr6k)
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: concerned_parent on December 15, 2015, 06:14:14 AM
i still like his trio part a lot ya feel
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: oyolar on December 15, 2015, 06:26:48 AM
I'll never understand why these topics exist. Tim Tim is a Christian, as many people and skateboarders are. I really don't understand why it's always looked down upon. Would you have started them topic if he were Muslim, Hindu or Buddhist? Probably not because then you'd be called a racist for saying it "weirded you out", but since he's Christian he's fair game. I don't get the double standard here.

I wonder if there are any Hindi, Buddhist, Muslim pro skaters?  That would be kinda cool to know actually.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: Lenny the Fatface on December 15, 2015, 06:48:34 AM
Jahmal Williams is Buddhist.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: pabloalvarado on December 15, 2015, 07:26:45 AM
He could be a Scientologist and i will still love him.

Also hes on team handsome, right?

Sure. And Nestor !

I found this video hilarious/weird because of the machete and the gun. And the portrait with both of them.

Alli Skate Videos - Picture This: Chad Tim Tim Gives a Tour of His Home (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCObC0u_Jno#)

Also...how many skaters are satanist ? Lizard King have a Satan tattoo.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: Allen. on December 15, 2015, 08:02:08 AM
Yo Jesus is chill, you kill a nigga he come back and don't even trip that hard.

A+.

If you think about it, any sort of belief system where you believe in and put faith into an invisible fuck that, Chad Tim Tim appreesh. He's way too underrated. Introduced a 13 year old me into De La Soul and would single handedly (to me) legitimize Element later on. Thanks Chad!
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: JACKSONVILLAIN on December 15, 2015, 08:19:29 AM
Atheist Speaks His Mind On Religion! "They Sold Me On A Half Truth  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC6xrsSfUtU#)

Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: Casey Jones on December 15, 2015, 08:25:49 AM
Yo Jesus is chill, you kill a nigga he come back and don't even trip that hard.

A+.

If you think about it, any sort of belief system where you believe in and put faith into an invisible fuck that, Chad Tim Tim appreesh. He's way too underrated. Introduced a 13 year old me into De La Soul and would single handedly (to me) legitimize Element later on. Thanks Chad!

Yeah, I don't follow any particular religion but if you hate on Chad Tim Tim you are straight messed up! I mean you are like the king hater of all the haters if that's the case. No argument, even. He is the nicest dude ever, means well at all times, rips on a skateboard, does super unique tricks, has amazing style, and he's also just a fucking great role model. Who cares if he believes in a god or something. He doesn't push it on anyone, and he doesn't really make it his "thing." You'd never know, unless you searched for it.

Let's just continue to appreciate Chad Tim Tim and hope he never goes away, and also thank Element for providing for him and his family.

Amen.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: Iceman on December 15, 2015, 08:38:47 AM
tim tim isn't preachy, so it's all good. fuck the zealots though.

Isn't this whole Jesus thing about fucking kids? Its just what I've heard. Why is this ok?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VABSoHYQr6k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VABSoHYQr6k)

that was hilarious! i have to embed it.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=VABSoHYQr6k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VABSoHYQr6k#)
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: ohhgreenworld on December 15, 2015, 09:14:22 AM
don't forget about brian sumner! whats that dude up to anyways? Last time I checked, he was pro for that christian skate company Reliance/Siren... always liked his style
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: Casey Jones on December 15, 2015, 09:28:29 AM
don't forget about brian sumner! whats that dude up to anyways? Last time I checked, he was pro for that christian skate company Reliance/Siren... always liked his style

brian sumner is cool but I feel like he shoves his beliefs in everyone's faces constantly. Like I don't go around posting atheist shit all day because I know not everyone believes that. If i were a christian I would not post Jesus stuff all day either. It makes you look kinda arrogant.. to me anyway.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: spungo on December 15, 2015, 09:30:36 AM
Guru is a sikh, which is a sect of hindu.  and lizard king is always talking about satan. 
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: doomstation55 on December 15, 2015, 09:33:26 AM
Pretty sure there's an interview where lizard king says he's not actually like a practicing satanist, he just thought it was funny and would always shout out to him. I think he's actually agnostic/atheist or whatever. Kind of like slayer.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: Swithflip on December 15, 2015, 09:41:23 AM
Tim tim is on top beauti pros.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: teh canadian suit on December 15, 2015, 10:10:58 AM
When you have to search out videos to discover someones religion then it isn't an issue. When every interview discusses religion and board graphics, then it can be a bit distasteful. Tim Tim rips and has never been one to mingle his skating with his religion
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on December 15, 2015, 10:57:08 AM
I'll never understand why these topics exist. Tim Tim is a Christian, as many people and skateboarders are. I really don't understand why it's always looked down upon. Would you have started them topic if he were Muslim, Hindu or Buddhist? Probably not because then you'd be called a racist for saying it "weirded you out", but since he's Christian he's fair game. I don't get the double standard here.
Because it is a culturally dominant religion that thrives off of proselytization. Want to practice your religion? Fine, just don't fucking push it on me. And being a non-christian in America means CONSTANT attempts to convert you and questions about the validity of your faith. That's not a stereotype about Christians- its a rule they are supposed to follow.
At this point, we all know about Christianity, we know all of its pros and cons. Those of us who aren't buying what you are selling aren't doing that because they are confused. The fact that Christians are SO in-your-face about their beliefs and the fact that they think any other beliefs are wrong is gross, particularly as a majority.

As far as other religions? Aside from scientology and the mormons, which are absolutely the same in terms of proselytization, people tend not to put up youtube videos about the fact that they are that religion, that they are superior because of their religion, and that you need to join their religion or be tortured for eternity. If you put yourself out there as superior, get ready for people to tell you to go fuck yourself.

But let's also keep it simple- white power is a racist call for a dominant culture to maintain its dominance, so its fucked. Black power is a call for more power in a system that represses black people, so its not. Same thing goes with Christianity and other religions- if you are the dominant cultural group, and you insist on pushing your ways on others, you are just a dick.

I don't have a problem with your average christian, but once proselytizing comes into play, or the bullshit "war on Christmas" faux oppression bullshit, you can go fuck yourself.


Side note- did that video acknowledge the dude is only christian because of a bad acid trip? Seriously?! That's hilarious.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: Pretty Serious on December 15, 2015, 11:32:31 AM
I must be getting off easy, because in all my years I have never been accosted by ravenous Christians trying to convert me here in the NW. Mormons and Jehovah's bang on my door now and then, but even they are polite and leave when I say "thanks but no thanks".  Politicians, lawmakers, lobbyists , consumer advertising industry, etc are probably better targets of sophomoric ranting if you're worried about dominant groups pushing their ideas on you.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: chockfullofthat on December 15, 2015, 12:05:29 PM
to be fair they think they're trying to save us from eternal hellfire, they're just being nice.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: ohhgreenworld on December 15, 2015, 12:21:52 PM
I'm gonna run away from this thread before it evolves into a religious debate

Bye!
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: HyenaChaser on December 15, 2015, 12:24:19 PM
I only learned about this recently too but there are quite a few jesus dudes in the skate world: ray barbee, christian hosoi, steve caballero, jamie thomas, and others.

Barbee and Caballero were news to me. I'm personally not a fan of organized religion and I don't like mixing that with some of my favorite skaters. I still think all those dudes are rad but I like to maintain separation of church and skate.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: Casey Jones on December 15, 2015, 01:41:41 PM
I must be getting off easy, because in all my years I have never been accosted by ravenous Christians trying to convert me here in the NW. Mormons and Jehovah's bang on my door now and then, but even they are polite and leave when I say "thanks but no thanks".  Politicians, lawmakers, lobbyists , consumer advertising industry, etc are probably better targets of sophomoric ranting if you're worried about dominant groups pushing their ideas on you.

Great point about politicians, advertisers, etc. However I do think many religious people push ideas in implicit, passive ways which can be even worse. For example, I just looked up Brian Sumners instagram. Yesterday he posted a picture saying "real friends don't let friends die without knowing jesus." Along with a huge rant of some jargon I couldn't read through. What if my friend is Muslim? Are we not real friends if I don't successfully convert him to Christianity and Jesus? That is what I don't like. I'd rather have an advertiser say, "hey! check out our tacos they taste super good! and we have a deal on them!" or "check out this deal on this truck!" than someone pressure me and tell me i'm a bad person if I'm not a part of your thing.

Bringing this back to home:

Chad Tim Tim is the fucking man. And he doesn't push his ideologies on people. He believes in something, and that's great. I love that. But he allows other people to believe their things too.

Y'erd me?
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: Casey Jones on December 15, 2015, 01:51:28 PM
In addition to my last post, some kid comments saying "It's really hard when someone close to you dies suddenly and you aren't even sure of their status with God." That's sad to me. Instead of thinking "What a great dude or girl, I'm really sad they passed away." and thinking of the good times you had with them while mourning their loss, this kid is thinking "Shit, Bobby might be cast into eternal hellfire to be tortured relentlessly by Satan for all of eternity."

Ugh. So sad to me. I would be a wreck if I thought that might be a possibility for someone I cared about. But now we are approaching the religion debate so I'll stop there and just say that's why I hate why people post these pictures. It affects people. Clearly someone that kid knows just died.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: QUIT SINNIN on December 15, 2015, 04:10:23 PM
Donny Barley and Lance are Christians. Doubt anyone on here has anything bad to say about them. Yet other skaters who are Christians get made fun of on here. Makes no sense to me. I guess you have to be a legend to get a pass.

If it makes 'em happy and they ain't hurting you, who cares?
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on December 15, 2015, 04:33:52 PM
Pretty sure there's an interview where lizard king says he's not actually like a practicing satanist

You don't say ::)


Donny Barley and Lance are Christians. Doubt anyone on here has anything bad to say about them. Yet other skaters who are Christians get made fun of on here. Makes no sense to me. I guess you have to be a legend to get a pass.

Probably because Donny and Lance have never preached their beliefs to people and/ or used them to sell proddy
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on December 15, 2015, 05:20:18 PM
I must be getting off easy, because in all my years I have never been accosted by ravenous Christians trying to convert me here in the NW. Mormons and Jehovah's bang on my door now and then, but even they are polite and leave when I say "thanks but no thanks".  Politicians, lawmakers, lobbyists , consumer advertising industry, etc are probably better targets of sophomoric ranting if you're worried about dominant groups pushing their ideas on you.
Are you serious? First of all, no matter how many pleases and thank yous a person uses, saying they are superior based on their beliefs and that you need to abandon yours because theirs is the greatest is definitive bigotry, and not polite. Along with that, they aren't ravenous?
 They haven't fought against the rights of gay people to get married because they think everybody needs to live by their bible? Do they not shoot up and picket abortion clinics because they think everybody should live by their values? They haven't put up religious statues and displays all over the country, including fucking courthouses? They haven't claimed there is a "war on christmas" because not everybody celebrates their holiday?
 Christians push for theocratic law in America more than any other group. Its not even an issue of individual proselytizing, they are going after the whole fucking country, and hurtin a lot of people while doing it.

For the record, as stated in my last post, I don't care if you want to practice your own religion in a personal way regarding your personal practices and beliefs, its the bigotry of pushing it on others that I hate.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: QUIT SINNIN on December 15, 2015, 09:03:18 PM
I must be getting off easy, because in all my years I have never been accosted by ravenous Christians trying to convert me here in the NW. Mormons and Jehovah's bang on my door now and then, but even they are polite and leave when I say "thanks but no thanks".  Politicians, lawmakers, lobbyists , consumer advertising industry, etc are probably better targets of sophomoric ranting if you're worried about dominant groups pushing their ideas on you.
Are you serious? First of all, no matter how many pleases and thank yous a person uses, saying they are superior based on their beliefs and that you need to abandon yours because theirs is the greatest is definitive bigotry, and not polite. Along with that, they aren't ravenous?
 They haven't fought against the rights of gay people to get married because they think everybody needs to live by their bible? Do they not shoot up and picket abortion clinics because they think everybody should live by their values? They haven't put up religious statues and displays all over the country, including fucking courthouses? They haven't claimed there is a "war on christmas" because not everybody celebrates their holiday?
 Christians push for theocratic law in America more than any other group. Its not even an issue of individual proselytizing, they are going after the whole fucking country, and hurtin a lot of people while doing it.

For the record, as stated in my last post, I don't care if you want to practice your own religion in a personal way regarding your personal practices and beliefs, its the bigotry of pushing it on others that I hate.

you seem to be overreacting to a pretty harmless video featuring a skateboarder with a pretty good reputation who doesn't seem to be pushing anything. you sort of come off like a dejected teenager whose parents are forcing him to go to mass every sunday.

for the record, i am not religious.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: Pretty Serious on December 15, 2015, 09:23:04 PM
I must be getting off easy, because in all my years I have never been accosted by ravenous Christians trying to convert me here in the NW. Mormons and Jehovah's bang on my door now and then, but even they are polite and leave when I say "thanks but no thanks".  Politicians, lawmakers, lobbyists , consumer advertising industry, etc are probably better targets of sophomoric ranting if you're worried about dominant groups pushing their ideas on you.
Are you serious? First of all, no matter how many pleases and thank yous a person uses, saying they are superior based on their beliefs and that you need to abandon yours because theirs is the greatest is definitive bigotry, and not polite. Along with that, they aren't ravenous?
 They haven't fought against the rights of gay people to get married because they think everybody needs to live by their bible? Do they not shoot up and picket abortion clinics because they think everybody should live by their values? They haven't put up religious statues and displays all over the country, including fucking courthouses? They haven't claimed there is a "war on christmas" because not everybody celebrates their holiday?
 Christians push for theocratic law in America more than any other group. Its not even an issue of individual proselytizing, they are going after the whole fucking country, and hurtin a lot of people while doing it.

For the record, as stated in my last post, I don't care if you want to practice your own religion in a personal way regarding your personal practices and beliefs, its the bigotry of pushing it on others that I hate.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: HyperBeam on December 16, 2015, 12:35:18 AM
^^too funny
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: lampshade on December 16, 2015, 06:24:00 AM
Religon is fine if it helps make someone a better person.  But the preaching stuff is annoying.  One of my wife's best friends is Mormon.  Full on went to BYU, has 12 kids in her family, has never had a drop of booze, went on the, "mission."  She's cool because she never talks about it.     
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: PatrickSkateman on December 16, 2015, 06:42:25 AM
In my experience, atheists tend to be just as preachy, if not more than most Christians I know. They're like vegans, crossfitters, and runners...they get their validation from something outside of themselves and just have to tell someone about it. Skateboarders are the same way. Everyone worships something.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: ChuckRamone on December 16, 2015, 06:48:04 AM
religion is the codification of a particular group's ethos with a spiritual component added on to instill compliance and obedience in its followers. that's why every religion is tailored to each group of people - it's why you can have countless sects of christianity, which are all supposedly the same religion. I could start my own sect of christianity, in fact, that's a perfect expression of my worldview, and, if I were charismatic enough, I could convert a bunch of people to it. it's why everyone's god looks like them. religion can be viewed as something that promotes social cohesion and altruism by strengthening bonds among the in-group, which are very beneficial traits in terms of evolution and the continuation of the species. it's a form of tribalism. it's a manifestation of the human ego.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: jonnysheen on December 16, 2015, 08:12:02 AM
sorry, can't help it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq6ulGCounc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq6ulGCounc)
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: IcanthelpitImfromMilwaukee on December 16, 2015, 09:15:46 AM
Religon is fine if it helps make someone a better person.  But the preaching stuff is annoying.  One of my wife's best friends is Mormon.  Full on went to BYU, has 12 kids in her family, has never had a drop of booze, went on the, "mission."  She's cool because she never talks about it.     

That's kinda funny, I've heard people bitch about Mormons in the same way. My Mom/Step-Dad are Mormon (my step-dad's a former bishop, or "pastor who does't get paid" essentially) and they even put missionaries up in their house, and the only person who's ever tried to preach to me is my mom. A lot of it's regional too, like Mormons from the token "Mormon States" (Utah, Idaho, Arizona to a lesser extent) are a lot more aggressive then those from elsewhere. Mormons from states with smaller Mormon populations have to learn to assimilate with others more so it's pretty much a given.
It's already been said: Who cares if he's a Christian/who cares someone decided to make a thread about it?
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: chockfullofthat on December 16, 2015, 11:01:09 AM
religion is the codification of a particular group's ethos with a spiritual component added on to instill compliance and obedience in its followers. that's why every religion is tailored to each group of people - it's why you can have countless sects of christianity, which are all supposedly the same religion. I could start my own sect of christianity, in fact, that's a perfect expression of my worldview, and, if I were charismatic enough, I could convert a bunch of people to it. it's why everyone's god looks like them. religion can be viewed as something that promotes social cohesion and altruism by strengthening bonds among the in-group, which are very beneficial traits in terms of evolution and the continuation of the species. it's a form of tribalism. it's a manifestation of the human ego.

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/tumblr_lzarqfhTXL1qg63qpo1_250.gif)
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: ChuckRamone on December 16, 2015, 11:29:09 AM
religion is the codification of a particular group's ethos with a spiritual component added on to instill compliance and obedience in its followers. that's why every religion is tailored to each group of people - it's why you can have countless sects of christianity, which are all supposedly the same religion. I could start my own sect of christianity, in fact, that's a perfect expression of my worldview, and, if I were charismatic enough, I could convert a bunch of people to it. it's why everyone's god looks like them. religion can be viewed as something that promotes social cohesion and altruism by strengthening bonds among the in-group, which are very beneficial traits in terms of evolution and the continuation of the species. it's a form of tribalism. it's a manifestation of the human ego.

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/tumblr_lzarqfhTXL1qg63qpo1_250.gif)

MIKE TYSON UNCENSORED QUOTES (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzfKnpg1bp0#)
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: nowell on December 16, 2015, 12:01:39 PM
religion is the codification of a particular group's ethos with a spiritual component added on to instill compliance and obedience in its followers. that's why every religion is tailored to each group of people - it's why you can have countless sects of christianity, which are all supposedly the same religion. I could start my own sect of christianity, in fact, that's a perfect expression of my worldview, and, if I were charismatic enough, I could convert a bunch of people to it. it's why everyone's god looks like them. religion can be viewed as something that promotes social cohesion and altruism by strengthening bonds among the in-group, which are very beneficial traits in terms of evolution and the continuation of the species. it's a form of tribalism. it's a manifestation of the human ego.

This is why I wish some kids parents didn't tell them they're great
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on December 16, 2015, 01:20:05 PM
Pretty serious- I saw your point, I just didn't think anybody was stupid enough to take it seriously.
 How fucking dumb are you that you think those issues are mutually exclusive?
 Do you REALLY think that lawmakers don't have anything to do with religion?
 Does Rick Santorum not exist? Does the moral majority and the religious right not exist?
Are there no lobbies pushing a christian theological government?
 Do the consumer advertisers not spend 1/6th of the year commercializing religion?

You don't come off as more serious, you come off as stupid, naive, and desperate to turn the attention to other things....other things where proselytizing exists and is actually far more damaging because of it.

I must be getting off easy, because in all my years I have never been accosted by ravenous Christians trying to convert me here in the NW. Mormons and Jehovah's bang on my door now and then, but even they are polite and leave when I say "thanks but no thanks".  Politicians, lawmakers, lobbyists , consumer advertising industry, etc are probably better targets of sophomoric ranting if you're worried about dominant groups pushing their ideas on you.
Are you serious? First of all, no matter how many pleases and thank yous a person uses, saying they are superior based on their beliefs and that you need to abandon yours because theirs is the greatest is definitive bigotry, and not polite. Along with that, they aren't ravenous?
 They haven't fought against the rights of gay people to get married because they think everybody needs to live by their bible? Do they not shoot up and picket abortion clinics because they think everybody should live by their values? They haven't put up religious statues and displays all over the country, including fucking courthouses? They haven't claimed there is a "war on christmas" because not everybody celebrates their holiday?
 Christians push for theocratic law in America more than any other group. Its not even an issue of individual proselytizing, they are going after the whole fucking country, and hurtin a lot of people while doing it.

For the record, as stated in my last post, I don't care if you want to practice your own religion in a personal way regarding your personal practices and beliefs, its the bigotry of pushing it on others that I hate.

you seem to be overreacting to a pretty harmless video featuring a skateboarder with a pretty good reputation who doesn't seem to be pushing anything. you sort of come off like a dejected teenager whose parents are forcing him to go to mass every sunday.

for the record, i am not religious.
Or, maybe I'm not Christian and sick of you fuckers pretending you are the only culture, the only people with a sense of morality, and that all of the rest of us are incomplete if we aren't like you? Maybe I don't like the fact that my government oppresses people because of people who push their morality on the rest of us?
Nope, I must be a teenage christian, since all that exists are different types of Christians
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: stone cold steve austin on December 16, 2015, 01:24:13 PM
i swear people that have posts under 30 shouldn't be allowed to make threads. so many shitty threads
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: Pretty Serious on December 16, 2015, 03:10:45 PM
Pretty serious- I saw your point, I just didn't think anybody was stupid enough to take it seriously.
 How fucking dumb are you that you think those issues are mutually exclusive?
 Do you REALLY think that lawmakers don't have anything to do with religion?
 Does Rick Santorum not exist? Does the moral majority and the religious right not exist?
Are there no lobbies pushing a christian theological government?
 Do the consumer advertisers not spend 1/6th of the year commercializing religion?

You don't come off as more serious, you come off as stupid, naive, and desperate to turn the attention to other things....other things where proselytizing exists and is actually far more damaging because of it.

I must be getting off easy, because in all my years I have never been accosted by ravenous Christians trying to convert me here in the NW. Mormons and Jehovah's bang on my door now and then, but even they are polite and leave when I say "thanks but no thanks".  Politicians, lawmakers, lobbyists , consumer advertising industry, etc are probably better targets of
sophomoric ranting
if you're worried about dominant groups pushing their ideas on you.
Are you serious? First of all, no matter how many pleases and thank yous a person uses, saying they are superior based on their beliefs and that you need to abandon yours because theirs is the greatest is definitive bigotry, and not polite. Along with that, they aren't ravenous?
 They haven't fought against the rights of gay people to get married because they think everybody needs to live by their bible? Do they not shoot up and picket abortion clinics because they think everybody should live by their values? They haven't put up religious statues and displays all over the country, including fucking courthouses? They haven't claimed there is a "war on christmas" because not everybody celebrates their holiday?
 Christians push for theocratic law in America more than any other group. Its not even an issue of individual proselytizing, they are going after the whole fucking country, and hurtin a lot of people while doing it.

For the record, as stated in my last post, I don't care if you want to practice your own religion in a personal way regarding your personal practices and beliefs, its the bigotry of pushing it on others that I hate.

you seem to be overreacting to a pretty harmless video featuring a skateboarder with a pretty good reputation who doesn't seem to be pushing anything. you sort of come off like a dejected teenager whose parents are forcing him to go to mass every sunday.

for the record, i am not religious.
Or, maybe I'm not Christian and sick of you fuckers pretending you are the only culture, the only people with a sense of morality, and that all of the rest of us are incomplete if we aren't like you? Maybe I don't like the fact that my government oppresses people because of people who push their morality on the rest of us?
Nope, I must be a teenage christian, since all that exists are different types of Christians
+1 for petulance
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: SilvergultRab on December 16, 2015, 03:59:46 PM
I'm an avid goer to the church of skatan
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: smokecrack on December 16, 2015, 04:01:01 PM
I'll never understand why these topics exist. Tim Tim is a Christian, as many people and skateboarders are. I really don't understand why it's always looked down upon. Would you have started them topic if he were Muslim, Hindu or Buddhist? Probably not because then you'd be called a racist for saying it "weirded you out", but since he's Christian he's fair game. I don't get the double standard here.
Because it is a culturally dominant religion that thrives off of proselytization. Want to practice your religion? Fine, just don't fucking push it on me. And being a non-christian in America means CONSTANT attempts to convert you and questions about the validity of your faith. That's not a stereotype about Christians- its a rule they are supposed to follow.
At this point, we all know about Christianity, we know all of its pros and cons. Those of us who aren't buying what you are selling aren't doing that because they are confused. The fact that Christians are SO in-your-face about their beliefs and the fact that they think any other beliefs are wrong is gross, particularly as a majority.

As far as other religions? Aside from scientology and the mormons, which are absolutely the same in terms of proselytization, people tend not to put up youtube videos about the fact that they are that religion, that they are superior because of their religion, and that you need to join their religion or be tortured for eternity. If you put yourself out there as superior, get ready for people to tell you to go fuck yourself.

But let's also keep it simple- white power is a racist call for a dominant culture to maintain its dominance, so its fucked. Black power is a call for more power in a system that represses black people, so its not. Same thing goes with Christianity and other religions- if you are the dominant cultural group, and you insist on pushing your ways on others, you are just a dick.

I don't have a problem with your average christian, but once proselytizing comes into play, or the bullshit "war on Christmas" faux oppression bullshit, you can go fuck yourself.


Side note- did that video acknowledge the dude is only christian because of a bad acid trip? Seriously?! That's hilarious.

yeah, not sure about that....

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Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on December 16, 2015, 04:18:41 PM
They're like vegans, crossfitters, and runners...they get their validation from something outside of themselves and just have to tell someone about it.

Those 3 groups are nothing like Christians and I'm sick of the comparisons. For starters running, crosssfit and the suffering of animals are things that actually exist and aren't based on faith. I'm not gunna hate on a christian for believing in something greater than themselves but that is a very different kettle of fish to someone standing up for the welfare of animals and/ or being into health and fitness.
Please let me know a time/ date when I can come round to your house and kicks your pets' heads in okay? When you try and stop me, I'll tell you to stop being so being such a preachy zealot ::) I also just mosey on by when I see/ hear about organized dog fights and such; to each their own brah, you live your life how you want to and I'll live mine :-*
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: FROST YOUR TIPS on December 16, 2015, 04:36:44 PM
How many pro skaters have found Jesus while on an acid trip? hahaha
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: ICUSUCKA on December 17, 2015, 07:47:19 AM
In my humble opinion most religions are a good thing. The real meaning in most of them is all about love, and not being a big douche bag. Its moronic greedy people who twist it up and use it for their own agenda or personal gain that skew it. But, those people who propagate it for wealth, war, and hatred are the furthest from the true meaning. We are all God's (whatever that means to you) people and deserve respect, rights, and freedom's.

On the topic of Tim Tim. He's been killing it for years and that Trio part is my favorite of his by far.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: Makaveli on December 17, 2015, 07:56:22 AM
I remember Austin Stephens was a big Christian, but said that traveling and being pro exposed him to things that made him reconsider his beliefs. I thought Tim Tim had said the same sort of thing.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: 4LOM on December 17, 2015, 07:57:21 AM
In my humble opinion most religions are a good thing. The real meaning in most of them is all about love, and not being a big douche bag. Its moronic greedy people who twist it up and use it for their own agenda or personal gain that skew it. But, those people who propagate it for wealth, war, and hatred are the furthest from the true meaning. We are all God's (whatever that means to you) people and deserve respect, rights, and freedom's.

On the topic of Tim Tim. He's been killing it for years and that Trio part is my favorite of his by far.

God condones slavery, so I don't know why you think God's committed to your Western political rhetoric.
If anything, he's into bronze age tribe politics and its slave economy.

That everyone thinks God agrees with their politics and morals just shows that we create God in our image, not the other way around.

That Trio part was bangin
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: fulltechnicalskizzy on December 17, 2015, 08:01:19 AM
God loves Hot Pockets and Hostel Pt. II
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: ChuckRamone on December 17, 2015, 08:05:32 AM
In my humble opinion most religions are a good thing. The real meaning in most of them is all about love, and not being a big douche bag. Its moronic greedy people who twist it up and use it for their own agenda or personal gain that skew it. But, those people who propagate it for wealth, war, and hatred are the furthest from the true meaning. We are all God's (whatever that means to you) people and deserve respect, rights, and freedom's.

On the topic of Tim Tim. He's been killing it for years and that Trio part is my favorite of his by far.

God condones slavery, so I don't know why you think God's committed to your Western political rhetoric.
If anything, he's into bronze age tribe politics and its slave economy.

That everyone thinks God agrees with their politics and morals just shows that we create God in our image, not the other way around.

That Trio part was bangin

Exactly. That should end any all debates about religion and where it comes from but for some reason it doesn't. Religon, god, all that are obviously manmade.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: CigaretteBeer on December 17, 2015, 10:18:46 AM
100% agree with everything gipper said.

If you think Christianity is a good thing and can't see how much damage it's caused you are truly a fucking idiot. Being a passive Christian just means you're lazy or don't have much faith in your imaginary friend and his death cult. The book Christians follow orders them to preach relentlessly. To abandon their life before Jesus (including material possessions and unbelieving family members). A good way to prove most Christians don't truly have faith in their bullshit religion is to ask them for a large sum of money, or perhaps their home or car. "Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back." Luke 6:30


And why doesn't god ever heal amputees? When a Christian gets cancer and undergoes chemo and surgeries performed by human doctors they are always quick to give god the credit for recovery. It's strange how god only heals people that go to doctors.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: tobey on December 17, 2015, 10:27:52 AM
THIS IS NOT A TROLL POST

Is there a difference between being Catholic or begin a Christian?
I grew up in a Catholic family and i barely know that religion but I thought they were the same?
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: ChuckRamone on December 17, 2015, 11:00:10 AM
Catholicism is the form of Christianity that rose up in Rome and predominated in Western Europe until the Protestants said we're tired of giving the Pope all our money and we don't believe in all the rites that Catholics do or that Mary is a deity. But it's the same religion only with different practices. Eastern Orthodoxy is also Christianity.
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: jonnysheen on December 17, 2015, 12:34:12 PM
100% agree with everything gipper said.

If you think Christianity is a good thing and can't see how much damage it's caused you are truly a fucking idiot. Being a passive Christian just means you're lazy or don't have much faith in your imaginary friend and his death cult. The book Christians follow orders them to preach relentlessly. To abandon their life before Jesus (including material possessions and unbelieving family members). A good way to prove most Christians don't truly have faith in their bullshit religion is to ask them for a large sum of money, or perhaps their home or car. "Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back." Luke 6:30


And why doesn't god ever heal amputees? When a Christian gets cancer and undergoes chemo and surgeries performed by human doctors they are always quick to give god the credit for recovery. It's strange how god only heals people that go to doctors.

Pretty sure Christianity has done a couple of good things in the history of the world.    For one it promotes altruism.  Personally I prefer the rule of law than religion, but before that there was  gap in the market for morality/ethics and some religions filled that.   i guess what i'm saying it gave the world order
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: bogolden on December 17, 2015, 01:03:48 PM
Dear Lord,

Please end this thread.

Amen
Title: Re: chad tim tim on christianity
Post by: oyolar on December 20, 2015, 11:27:52 AM
100% agree with everything gipper said.

If you think Christianity is a good thing and can't see how much damage it's caused you are truly a fucking idiot. Being a passive Christian just means you're lazy or don't have much faith in your imaginary friend and his death cult. The book Christians follow orders them to preach relentlessly. To abandon their life before Jesus (including material possessions and unbelieving family members). A good way to prove most Christians don't truly have faith in their bullshit religion is to ask them for a large sum of money, or perhaps their home or car. "Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back." Luke 6:30


And why doesn't god ever heal amputees? When a Christian gets cancer and undergoes chemo and surgeries performed by human doctors they are always quick to give god the credit for recovery. It's strange how god only heals people that go to doctors.

Pretty sure Christianity has done a couple of good things in the history of the world.    For one it promotes altruism.  Personally I prefer the rule of law than religion, but before that there was  gap in the market for morality/ethics and some religions filled that.   i guess what i'm saying it gave the world order

To say that people would not have been moral beings or altruistic without religion is not only wrong, it's insulting.