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Title: State footwear.
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 13, 2016, 04:23:35 PM
From the Fallen demise thread:
It definitely sucks to see shoe brands ran by skaters go out of business but it looks like there'll be a new one soon, the newest issue of Transworld says Joe Castrucci and Kevin Furtado from Dekline are starting State footwear and may have Ben Gore, Kevin Coakley, and Christian Maalouf
Damn that sounds sick. Hope the shoes aren't just vans/cons clones.

They are really good looking. A few good vulc and cupsole shoes in the first line. They also have Jon Nguyen and Jordan Sanchez

Searched a little and found some pics on instagram and their page... Really excited to see what's coming from them.

https://www.instagram.com/statefootwear/ (https://www.instagram.com/statefootwear/)

(https://instagram.flis2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t51.2885-15/s750x750/sh0.08/e35/12816952_773482859450472_1311869292_n.jpg)
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on April 13, 2016, 04:50:12 PM
Can already tell I'm not going to be in to it.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Jake From State Farm on April 13, 2016, 04:55:50 PM
Wow! Very hyped for this one. The team alone makes it sound great.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: perverted super otaku! on April 13, 2016, 05:19:31 PM
in 15 years years castrucci is gonna be crying about how he "could of made State"
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: fulfillthedream on April 13, 2016, 05:31:16 PM
that line up looks sick! BUT that shoe looks like a chuck taylor clone  ???
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Main on April 13, 2016, 06:02:54 PM
Looks like another company geared toward the high water fashionstas. Makes no difference to me that they're skater owned.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Spaced Cadet on April 13, 2016, 06:09:28 PM
I always thought Joe should have made Habitat shoes a completely different brand with a different name and pick up guys from more than just Habitat. I was bitchin' that no one is starting any new skate shoe brands nowadays besides Filament, and these are exactly the type of guys I would want behind a new brand so I'm stoked. Now the shoes just have to not suck.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: skateskateskate on April 13, 2016, 06:37:20 PM
sick another hufcons
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Main on April 13, 2016, 07:12:47 PM
sick another hufcons

Haha I know right...
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: fulfillthedream on April 13, 2016, 07:19:44 PM
I always thought Joe should have made Habitat shoes a completely different brand with a different name and pick up guys from more than just Habitat. I was bitchin' that no one is starting any new skate shoe brands nowadays besides Filament, and these are exactly the type of guys I would want behind a new brand so I'm stoked. Now the shoes just have to not suck.

element footwear was a prime example...
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: clamy on April 13, 2016, 08:43:10 PM
Finally. My Habitat shoe stash is starting to shrink.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Roisto on April 13, 2016, 09:14:31 PM
This was from the Fallen thread too:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BEEnqvUy_3W/?hl=en (https://www.instagram.com/p/BEEnqvUy_3W/?hl=en)

Those look like chucks without the rubber toe cap. So very unoriginal.  :-\

Let's hope it's not all shit like that.

I do like my Habitat Kerry Getz shoes. Starting to finally fall apart though.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Tracer on April 13, 2016, 09:52:07 PM
there is no chance State footwear is a real thing
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: j....soy..... on April 13, 2016, 10:19:50 PM
quality wise.....same as : Huf, Lakai, Vox, Fallen......
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 14, 2016, 12:03:40 AM
This was from the Fallen thread too:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BEEnqvUy_3W/?hl=en (https://www.instagram.com/p/BEEnqvUy_3W/?hl=en)

Those look like chucks without the rubber toe cap. So very unoriginal.  :-\

Let's hope it's not all shit like that.

I do like my Habitat Kerry Getz shoes. Starting to finally fall apart though.

I saw those and thought they were cons one stars. From that top view they look pretty similar.
We cant judge the shoes or the brand yet. We didnt even seen a pic of whole shoe.
The catalog can have nice looking shoes but i think we already know to not expect some tech cupsole revival from them.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: j....soy..... on April 14, 2016, 07:09:04 AM
I've seen em....and I think the construction is similar to what I posted.....dekline too....all similar construction....
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Allen. on April 14, 2016, 07:36:04 AM
quality wise.....same as : Huf, Lakai, Vox, Fallen......

With all due respect, you're nuts if you think Lakai or Huf's quality is the same as Vox or Fallen's. That is just not the case.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: concerned_parent on April 14, 2016, 10:44:47 AM
if they make good looking high tops i'll try them, those ones on maloouf's instagram look pretty chill
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Casey Jones on April 14, 2016, 11:46:33 AM
Yeah they seem cool to me. Can't really judge because we haven't even seen a real shoe yet. But they seem to follow a similar construction to huf and cons, which isn't really to say they are copying, that's just a tried and true method of designing shoes. I do like the embroidered "S" logo on the tongue.

Who knows, this might be kinda rad. And I really like what Joe Castrucci has done in the past, so I'll support him on this endeavor unless they are hideous... which doesn't appear to be the case.

Solid team too. Skateboarding needs this. Let's just fucking support these guys and bring skateboarding home again.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Tobias Funke on April 14, 2016, 02:43:06 PM
http://cargocollective.com/philipvaloisarchive/State-Footwear-Catalog (http://cargocollective.com/philipvaloisarchive/State-Footwear-Catalog)
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: coneklr on April 14, 2016, 02:59:37 PM
They don't look terrible although they aren't really breaking any molds either.  Essentially each shoe is very similar to another companies shoe, the same as almost all "new" shoes the last 2-3 years.  From the pics, the construction looks nice anyway.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: oyolar on April 14, 2016, 03:59:07 PM
I'm hoping that this first drop is just to get established and after that happens, they'll start making some cupsoles and more original models.  I liked those cupsole Habitat shoes that Suciu used to wear all of the time, so something like that would be cool.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: micky682 on April 14, 2016, 04:05:58 PM
Dekline 2.0
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on April 14, 2016, 04:06:25 PM
http://cargocollective.com/philipvaloisarchive/State-Footwear-Catalog (http://cargocollective.com/philipvaloisarchive/State-Footwear-Catalog)

damn, r.i.p. state footwear.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Deucifer on April 14, 2016, 04:13:54 PM
What do the people who hate on nike and complain about skater owned design/quality wear? I'm legitimately curious.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on April 14, 2016, 04:23:33 PM
What do the people who hate on nike and complain about skater owned design/quality wear? I'm legitimately curious.

Adidas?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: HATE! on April 14, 2016, 04:33:17 PM
What do the people who hate on nike and complain about skater owned design/quality wear? I'm legitimately curious.

Adidas?

Yep.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: heritage on April 14, 2016, 04:41:36 PM
Dekline 2.0

Yeah not a bad launch, but this first line has more of a vibe to Dekline's last catalog than it does Habitat's last shoe catalog. The Baxley model is either the Jaws or Wayland and the Mercer is an updated Santa Fe mid.

Looking forward to possible future cupsole offerings.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Aatila on April 14, 2016, 04:52:15 PM
Dekline 2.0

actually funny you said that i heard its actually the all of the old molds and materials plus the dudes from dekline are steering the ship so no brainer there. Im sure once they go through this everything will smooth out.  I actually like those mid tops that white canvas
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: shit_for_brains on April 14, 2016, 04:52:59 PM
What are they thinking doing this
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Jake From State Farm on April 14, 2016, 04:54:57 PM
Good stuff. I'll buy them all.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Allen. on April 14, 2016, 04:57:33 PM
Holy shit, I actually REALLY like the Mercer.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on April 14, 2016, 05:04:15 PM
Holy shit, I actually REALLY like the Mercer.

Not to be confused with the Huf Mercer.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Spaced Cadet on April 14, 2016, 05:14:20 PM
That whole catalog looks almost exactly like Dekline or Habitat's past models which were just rehashes of other company's shoes. Obviously the first run is going to be safe so I won't say its doomed but I hope they branch out.

The mercer is the best looking shoe and its basically the Habitat Ibex, which is pretty much an Emerica Hsu 1, which some called a half cab rip off. Regardless, I'll probably try a pair when they come out.

(http://www.saltypeaks.com/pi/p16319-Shoe_HabitatIbexIndigo.jpg)
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Second Division on April 14, 2016, 06:17:15 PM
http://cargocollective.com/philipvaloisarchive/State-Footwear-Catalog (http://cargocollective.com/philipvaloisarchive/State-Footwear-Catalog)

damn, r.i.p. state footwear.

legitimately laughed out loud when I read this...

But a little strange to be putting out 5 basic vulc models when the industry is trending back towards cupsoles and more tech... Agreed with other people saying this kinda looks like Dekline, but the team will definitely make a huge impact on how people view the brand vs a brand like Dekline. Jon Nguyen > Jaws
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: ChuckRamone on April 14, 2016, 06:45:37 PM
The all black Salems look nice.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on April 14, 2016, 07:43:14 PM
But a little strange to be putting out 5 basic vulc models when the industry is trending back towards cupsoles and more tech...

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Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on April 14, 2016, 07:54:14 PM
That whole catalog looks almost exactly like Dekline or Habitat's past models which were just rehashes of other company's shoes. Obviously the first run is going to be safe so I won't say its doomed but I hope they branch out.

The mercer is the best looking shoe and its basically the Habitat Ibex, which is pretty much an Emerica Hsu 1, which some called a half cab rip off. Regardless, I'll probably try a pair when they come out.

(http://www.saltypeaks.com/pi/p16319-Shoe_HabitatIbexIndigo.jpg)
(http://www.styrus.net/shop/images/09vnstnt2bk1.jpg)
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: oyolar on April 14, 2016, 08:09:19 PM
You do realize that just because the Mercer is a vulc mid top doesn't mean that it actually looks like any of those shoes, right?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Spaced Cadet on April 14, 2016, 09:25:33 PM
You do realize that just because the Mercer is a vulc mid top doesn't mean that it actually looks like any of those shoes, right?

It shouldn't, but it does. There ARE vulc mid tops that don't all look the same yet those look very similar. I think they look good but to say they are nothing like other models is silly.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: PAWL on April 14, 2016, 09:44:26 PM
gotta clear out that old dekline stock somehow... might as well slap a new logo on em
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 14, 2016, 11:24:25 PM
Well, that was underwelming a best. I only like the Salem black/black. The dekline vibe is undeniable, habitat had sicker designs than those. So many canvas shoes on the first run is risky as fuck too.
I was hoping that they came with simple shoes but nice details. They came with simple shoes with no details = borring shoes.
I hope they change something in the next seasons but in the meanwhile, Give me a job, i can do it better (ahah)
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: franquietits on April 15, 2016, 12:19:22 AM
Hopefully they can find more of a voice as they continue. Remember, alot of hufs earlier stuff pre-dylan/austin were rip-offs and seemed uninspired as well. Not sure what to think of there marketing/mission statement: be independent and liberated through our shoes? Kind of looks like they took photos inside of a correctional facility (I've been watching "60 days in"). I'd still be down to skate some though. I'm sure they can do fine and maybe better than filament in terms of having a following.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Julz on April 15, 2016, 01:24:01 AM
Fucking horrible. Point blank.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Turtle Boy on April 15, 2016, 01:41:54 AM
Well, that was underwelming a best.
This. It's really bland, and the way the shoes are pictured, the shadows, the light and everything screams dekline.
No details on the insole, no descriptions of the soles.
These shoes don't say skateboarding to me. They should call Aaron Hoover (former habitat footwear designer), now that Fallen is rip, he must be looking for some job.

I hope they make some improvement, if not this is Beloe 2.0 : A sick team, one season and goodbye.

I'd skate a suede Salem the with the heel part of the Mercer
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: concerned_parent on April 15, 2016, 04:47:44 AM
damn. looks simple and cool but not really anything to write home about. i'll wait for a RL review.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Mr. Kamikazi on April 15, 2016, 05:38:20 AM
quality wise.....same as : Huf, Lakai, Vox, Fallen......

With all due respect, you're nuts if you think Lakai or Huf's quality is the same as Vox or Fallen's. That is just not the case.


Thank you. I have not skated a pair of Lakai's in quite sometime, but they're definitely above average quality, and HUF makes great shoes. A little overpriced at times, but they have started to make more affordable carryover shoes that are really durable and skate exceptionally well.

Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: perverted super otaku! on April 15, 2016, 05:48:25 AM
id try some f those for like 50$ unless they are a glue smeared mess but if they are pushin 70 i'd prolly just get more cons (Can. $'s),
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: sports on April 15, 2016, 06:23:50 AM
they took dekline and made it worse. congrats
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: ZEBRA on April 15, 2016, 07:48:43 AM
they took dekline and made it worse. congrats

HAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: ZEBRA on April 15, 2016, 07:51:48 AM
No cupsoles?? Shits weak son. I hope they have some in the works.

I thought this all this "vulc, no padding, boardfeel" bullshit was dying out. I guess not. Don't get me wrong. Shoes like that are great to skate. Board feel is amazing and all, I'm just tired of seeing the same old thing.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: shit_for_brains on April 15, 2016, 08:00:36 AM
These shoes are probably cheap as dirt to produce and since they're carbon copies of everything else, maybe they're hoping it'll just fall in line with that crowd and give them enough money to make something people like. Maybe. Maybe not.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: TwisT on April 15, 2016, 08:07:15 AM
dekline shoes were good, Im skating some now. Habitat was awesome, but that may just be nostolgia in my mind. all that really matters is marketing though
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: concerned_parent on April 15, 2016, 08:20:42 AM
team sounds like it isn't crap though. maybe a promo will change minds and get people a little more excited. you guys think there's any tech in them whatsoever?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Grind King Rims on April 15, 2016, 04:13:22 PM
Who's on the team?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Made In China on April 15, 2016, 04:14:49 PM
team sounds like it isn't crap though. maybe a promo will change minds and get people a little more excited. you guys think there's any tech in them whatsoever?
Yeah show me some footy of Christian Maalouf kickflipping over something ridiculous and I might be down to buy a pair
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: coneklr on April 15, 2016, 04:23:33 PM
Who's on the team?

Not positive but they are only following 5 people ...

Ben Gore
Kevin Coakley
Jon Nguyen
Christian Maalouf
Jordan Sanchez

Not that that means they are the team necessarily but it may be a sign
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: yourfuckingdad on April 15, 2016, 07:11:18 PM
Glad to see people are still trying but makes me even more sad about Fallen who often had pretty original designs (I think it's pretty hard to make truly original shoes these days that look good).

I think the lesson that needs to be learned from all these athletic sneaker companies coming in and kicking out the skater owned brands out is that you can't rely solely on skaters to propel your business Skaters are more in the mainstream as ever.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Main on April 15, 2016, 07:34:54 PM
Glad to see people are still trying but makes me even more sad about Fallen who often had pretty original designs (I think it's pretty hard to make truly original shoes these days that look good).

I think the lesson that needs to be learned from all these athletic sneaker companies coming in and kicking out the skater owned brands out is that you can't rely solely on skaters to propel your business Skaters are more in the mainstream as ever.

Not defending Unoriginal State Footwear, but Fallen's designs for the last couple years have been anything but original as well.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: McCly on April 15, 2016, 09:14:47 PM
Sales decline as demand has fallen.

From the ashes of one mediocre shoe company, another rises.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: busted-knee on April 16, 2016, 12:15:18 AM
Well, that was underwelming a best. I only like the Salem black/black. The dekline vibe is undeniable, habitat had sicker designs than those. So many canvas shoes on the first run is risky as fuck too.
I was hoping that they came with simple shoes but nice details. They came with simple shoes with no details = borring shoes.
I hope they change something in the next seasons but in the meanwhile, Give me a job, i can do it better (ahah)

This. Having admired your designs on the shoe design thread, I couldn't agree more. State's designs appear halfhearted at best. Good luck to them though. The name and the team have potential.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 16, 2016, 04:11:37 AM
Well, that was underwelming a best. I only like the Salem black/black. The dekline vibe is undeniable, habitat had sicker designs than those. So many canvas shoes on the first run is risky as fuck too.
I was hoping that they came with simple shoes but nice details. They came with simple shoes with no details = borring shoes.
I hope they change something in the next seasons but in the meanwhile, Give me a job, i can do it better (ahah)

This. Having admired your designs on the shoe design thread, I couldn't agree more. State's designs appear halfhearted at best. Good luck to them though. The name and the team have potential.

Thanks dude! I think i will design a shoe and send it to them to hear what they think. They could like it.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: perverted super otaku! on April 16, 2016, 06:03:10 AM
Well, that was underwelming a best. I only like the Salem black/black. The dekline vibe is undeniable, habitat had sicker designs than those. So many canvas shoes on the first run is risky as fuck too.
I was hoping that they came with simple shoes but nice details. They came with simple shoes with no details = borring shoes.
I hope they change something in the next seasons but in the meanwhile, Give me a job, i can do it better (ahah)

This. Having admired your designs on the shoe design thread, I couldn't agree more. State's designs appear halfhearted at best. Good luck to them though. The name and the team have potential.

Thanks dude! I think i will design a shoe and send it to them to hear what they think. They could like it.
I second this, get S.K.A.T.A.N on the case, don't forget the little people, and come strong with a vegan Vaporwave inspired colourway for your boy  ;)
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: j....soy..... on April 16, 2016, 08:14:08 AM
Yeah it's not easy to do, but when I think of smaller companies that make an impact it's coming up with something newer....ie. Huf took off when the toecap hit.....Ipath with grasshoppers because though they are rip offs, they are newer to what was current...the luxury you have now is you can dip into the archives and people might get stoked on it.....
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: TwisT on April 16, 2016, 08:23:43 AM
Sales decline as demand has fallen.

From the ashes of one mediocre shoe company, another rises.


maybe they should ask VOX how they've managed to hold on
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Makaveli on April 16, 2016, 08:37:46 AM
Sounds like they're gonna have a pretty rad team that'll market to a more core audience. Don't know if that'll sustain a brand, but it's good to see Gore, Coakley, Maalouf, etc. hooked up. Not really feeling any of these shoes, though. Kind of reminds me of Beloe.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: heckler on April 16, 2016, 09:02:19 AM
Although the initial catalog looks a tad bland, most of those shoes are certainly wearable and I'm extremely stoked that these dudes are getting hooked up. A huge downfall of companies like Fallen is that they lost touch with what the overall market wanted, both team-wise and shoe-wise. The fact that whoever's behind State knows there's a huge, unheard demographic in skateboarding (those seeking skater-owned AND a "Theories" influence, for lack of a better term) indicates to me that they'll have no problem adapting and evolving as the brand grows.

Also, let's be real, guys, can you think of any initial offering from a shoe brand that was extremely strong? Seems like people are just fishing for reasons to hate.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 16, 2016, 09:20:31 AM
Although the initial catalog looks a tad bland, most of those shoes are certainly wearable and I'm extremely stoked that these dudes are getting hooked up. A huge downfall of companies like Fallen is that they lost touch with what the overall market wanted, both team-wise and shoe-wise. The fact that whoever's behind State knows there's a huge, unheard demographic in skateboarding (those seeking skater-owned AND a "Theories" influence, for lack of a better term) indicates to me that they'll have no problem adapting and evolving as the brand grows.

Also, let's be real, guys, can you think of any initial offering from a shoe brand that was extremely strong? Seems like people are just fishing for reasons to hate.

Well, this is not exactly a shoe starting from the ground... The persons involved in this have experience from past brands so that's not a excuse to release a bunch of boring shoes that dont bring nothing new to the table. Habitat footwear had a strong first entry... http://www.hookit.com/members/youwillsoon/news/habitat-footwear/ (http://www.hookit.com/members/youwillsoon/news/habitat-footwear/)
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Makaveli on April 16, 2016, 09:36:45 AM
Although the initial catalog looks a tad bland, most of those shoes are certainly wearable and I'm extremely stoked that these dudes are getting hooked up. A huge downfall of companies like Fallen is that they lost touch with what the overall market wanted, both team-wise and shoe-wise. The fact that whoever's behind State knows there's a huge, unheard demographic in skateboarding (those seeking skater-owned AND a "Theories" influence, for lack of a better term) indicates to me that they'll have no problem adapting and evolving as the brand grows.

Also, let's be real, guys, can you think of any initial offering from a shoe brand that was extremely strong? Seems like people are just fishing for reasons to hate.

Well, this is not exactly a shoe starting from the ground... The persons involved in this have experience from past brands so that's not a excuse to release a bunch of boring shoes that dont bring nothing new to the table. Habitat footwear had a strong first entry... http://www.hookit.com/members/youwillsoon/news/habitat-footwear/ (http://www.hookit.com/members/youwillsoon/news/habitat-footwear/)

A chukka rip off, a half cab rip off, and a dunk rip off, and a hiking/running shoe was a strong first line?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Tracer on April 16, 2016, 09:49:10 AM
If they're inexpensive I'm down, any word on pricing?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 16, 2016, 10:10:46 AM
Although the initial catalog looks a tad bland, most of those shoes are certainly wearable and I'm extremely stoked that these dudes are getting hooked up. A huge downfall of companies like Fallen is that they lost touch with what the overall market wanted, both team-wise and shoe-wise. The fact that whoever's behind State knows there's a huge, unheard demographic in skateboarding (those seeking skater-owned AND a "Theories" influence, for lack of a better term) indicates to me that they'll have no problem adapting and evolving as the brand grows.

Also, let's be real, guys, can you think of any initial offering from a shoe brand that was extremely strong? Seems like people are just fishing for reasons to hate.



Well, this is not exactly a shoe starting from the ground... The persons involved in this have experience from past brands so that's not a excuse to release a bunch of boring shoes that dont bring nothing new to the table. Habitat footwear had a strong first entry... http://www.hookit.com/members/youwillsoon/news/habitat-footwear/ (http://www.hookit.com/members/youwillsoon/news/habitat-footwear/)

A chukka rip off, a half cab rip off, and a dunk rip off, and a hiking/running shoe was a strong first line?

So do you want them to reinvent the wheel? Every shoe takes inspiration from other shoes and those arent even that blatant rip-offs...
They look like they had some thought into it unlike the State ones that look like some standard shoe silhouettes.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Makaveli on April 16, 2016, 11:37:42 AM
Although the initial catalog looks a tad bland, most of those shoes are certainly wearable and I'm extremely stoked that these dudes are getting hooked up. A huge downfall of companies like Fallen is that they lost touch with what the overall market wanted, both team-wise and shoe-wise. The fact that whoever's behind State knows there's a huge, unheard demographic in skateboarding (those seeking skater-owned AND a "Theories" influence, for lack of a better term) indicates to me that they'll have no problem adapting and evolving as the brand grows.

Also, let's be real, guys, can you think of any initial offering from a shoe brand that was extremely strong? Seems like people are just fishing for reasons to hate.



Well, this is not exactly a shoe starting from the ground... The persons involved in this have experience from past brands so that's not a excuse to release a bunch of boring shoes that dont bring nothing new to the table. Habitat footwear had a strong first entry... http://www.hookit.com/members/youwillsoon/news/habitat-footwear/ (http://www.hookit.com/members/youwillsoon/news/habitat-footwear/)

A chukka rip off, a half cab rip off, and a dunk rip off, and a hiking/running shoe was a strong first line?

So do you want them to reinvent the wheel? Every shoe takes inspiration from other shoes and those arent even that blatant rip-offs...
They look like they had some thought into it unlike the State ones that look like some standard shoe silhouettes.

No I didn't want Habitat shoes to reinvent the wheel. I never even wanted Habitat shoes. I agree that it's a less generic offering than State, but I think part of it is that Habitat had a preexisting identity when the shoes came out, so that influenced a lot of things from creativity to market perception. I just find it odd that you're bemoaning State for a lack of creativity in design but then praising Habitat for the same lack of creativity.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: heritage on April 16, 2016, 11:46:16 AM
Was talking about this with Art Hellman a few weeks back...Habitat had some of their best stuff right before the Pac-Vector debacle. The shoes they had on sample were great looking but never made it to production. I'll post pics later, but I got their Yuma boot (cupsole mid) and Vista low right before they were gone for good. Both were/are great shoes.

And not for nothing, that Habitat Guru Hi was/is timeless. I'm sure it was expensive to produce with a custom die and so forth but it was a great skate shoe and really nice looking.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 16, 2016, 12:41:54 PM
Although the initial catalog looks a tad bland, most of those shoes are certainly wearable and I'm extremely stoked that these dudes are getting hooked up. A huge downfall of companies like Fallen is that they lost touch with what the overall market wanted, both team-wise and shoe-wise. The fact that whoever's behind State knows there's a huge, unheard demographic in skateboarding (those seeking skater-owned AND a "Theories" influence, for lack of a better term) indicates to me that they'll have no problem adapting and evolving as the brand grows.

Also, let's be real, guys, can you think of any initial offering from a shoe brand that was extremely strong? Seems like people are just fishing for reasons to hate.



Well, this is not exactly a shoe starting from the ground... The persons involved in this have experience from past brands so that's not a excuse to release a bunch of boring shoes that dont bring nothing new to the table. Habitat footwear had a strong first entry... http://www.hookit.com/members/youwillsoon/news/habitat-footwear/ (http://www.hookit.com/members/youwillsoon/news/habitat-footwear/)

A chukka rip off, a half cab rip off, and a dunk rip off, and a hiking/running shoe was a strong first line?

So do you want them to reinvent the wheel? Every shoe takes inspiration from other shoes and those arent even that blatant rip-offs...
They look like they had some thought into it unlike the State ones that look like some standard shoe silhouettes.

No I didn't want Habitat shoes to reinvent the wheel. I never even wanted Habitat shoes. I agree that it's a less generic offering than State, but I think part of it is that Habitat had a preexisting identity when the shoes came out, so that influenced a lot of things from creativity to market perception. I just find it odd that you're bemoaning State for a lack of creativity in design but then praising Habitat for the same lack of creativity.

No, the lack of creativity from those 2 brands isnt even on pair.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: heckler on April 16, 2016, 06:10:28 PM
So the State catalog is generic and bland, but Habitat can't be expected to reinvent the wheel? ha, okay.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Allen. on April 16, 2016, 06:27:50 PM
Holy shit, I actually REALLY like the Mercer.

Not to be confused with the Huf Mercer.

....which for some reason, I ALSO really like, haha.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 16, 2016, 07:06:12 PM
So the State catalog is generic and bland, but Habitat can't be expected to reinvent the wheel? ha, okay.

So you want some robot looking shoes?? Skateboarders dont like big changes (aka reinvent the wheel)... You need to work with what you already got and bring something new here and there. Habitat shoes had plenty details that made them not look like every other shoe out there even if they got one or other similar silhouette. Even the sole was not just a herringbone pattern, and actually had some thought into it. They were not just a generic silhouette with a vulc sole like this state catalog. Sometimes i thing you guys are blind.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Makaveli on April 16, 2016, 07:57:45 PM
So the State catalog is generic and bland, but Habitat can't be expected to reinvent the wheel? ha, okay.

So you want some robot looking shoes?? Skateboarders dont like big changes (aka reinvent the wheel)... You need to work with what you already got and bring something new here and there. Habitat shoes had plenty details that made them not look like every other shoe out there even if they got one or other similar silhouette. Even the sole was not just a herringbone pattern, and actually had some thought into it. They were not just a generic silhouette with a vulc sole like this state catalog. Sometimes i thing you guys are blind.

But we're just talking about Habitat initial shoe release, not what they ended up doing. They ended up with some decent shoes. Guru's shoe was sick. Honestly, other than the chukka ripoff, every shoe in that first catalog looks like Praxis made it.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on April 16, 2016, 10:28:00 PM
If they put Uncle Freddy on I'd but a pair.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Olabade on April 16, 2016, 11:03:42 PM
So the State catalog is generic and bland, but Habitat can't be expected to reinvent the wheel? ha, okay.

So you want some robot looking shoes?? Skateboarders dont like big changes (aka reinvent the wheel)... You need to work with what you already got and bring something new here and there. Habitat shoes had plenty details that made them not look like every other shoe out there even if they got one or other similar silhouette. Even the sole was not just a herringbone pattern, and actually had some thought into it. They were not just a generic silhouette with a vulc sole like this state catalog. Sometimes i thing you guys are blind.

In the end skaters didn't dig the Habitat designs enough to keep them in business.

I personally think that most iconic and best selling skate shoes are designwise super simple. If I go to a skatepark near me I will definately see a lot of adi-ease, janoski, cons cts, vans slip on and era. Hell I think the most common cupsole is emerica laced. All of them super simple. Of course there are also some new and more complex looking stuff but those come and go. The simple desings seem to stand the test of time better.

Do you think Koston 3 or westgate runnertoe shove will be around in three years? Not saying they're bad shoes.

Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: j....soy..... on April 16, 2016, 11:34:49 PM
If the shoes follow the pants....I think....white Stan smiths, Rod Lavers.....that's where it's going....
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 17, 2016, 02:39:24 AM
So the State catalog is generic and bland, but Habitat can't be expected to reinvent the wheel? ha, okay.

So you want some robot looking shoes?? Skateboarders dont like big changes (aka reinvent the wheel)... You need to work with what you already got and bring something new here and there. Habitat shoes had plenty details that made them not look like every other shoe out there even if they got one or other similar silhouette. Even the sole was not just a herringbone pattern, and actually had some thought into it. They were not just a generic silhouette with a vulc sole like this state catalog. Sometimes i thing you guys are blind.

In the end skaters didn't dig the Habitat designs enough to keep them in business.

I personally think that most iconic and best selling skate shoes are designwise super simple. If I go to a skatepark near me I will definately see a lot of adi-ease, janoski, cons cts, vans slip on and era. Hell I think the most common cupsole is emerica laced. All of them super simple. Of course there are also some new and more complex looking stuff but those come and go. The simple desings seem to stand the test of time better.

Do you think Koston 3 or westgate runnertoe shove will be around in three years? Not saying they're bad shoes.



People dont bought habitat simply because of their name... It was like element shoes, Nobody wants a deck/shoe company. It feels strange to skate a whatever deck brand and then habitat shoes, call it an OCD i dont know, i dont like it either. That and the limited team. They were cursed from the start in my opinion.

And tech shoes appeal to different niche of people that dont want the same looking shoe and want progress. If they last in the line? I dont know. I do know you need to make things interesting, so why Dekline folded? Because every shoe they had was like every other simple shoe out there, they were bland. Simpler designs stand the test of time if they are authentic. People want authenticy and not straight knock-ofs.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on April 17, 2016, 02:45:12 AM
The more I come back and check that catalog, the more I like it. I could wear the mercer.  I know producing lasts is way more money than a vulc shoe, but at least one cup would have been nice.

And I don't know if this has been pointed out, but those are all pretty much canvas...
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: The Woodsman on April 17, 2016, 04:36:40 AM
Although the initial catalog looks a tad bland, most of those shoes are certainly wearable and I'm extremely stoked that these dudes are getting hooked up. A huge downfall of companies like Fallen is that they lost touch with what the overall market wanted, both team-wise and shoe-wise. The fact that whoever's behind State knows there's a huge, unheard demographic in skateboarding (those seeking skater-owned AND a "Theories" influence, for lack of a better term) indicates to me that they'll have no problem adapting and evolving as the brand grows.

Also, let's be real, guys, can you think of any initial offering from a shoe brand that was extremely strong? Seems like people are just fishing for reasons to hate.



Well, this is not exactly a shoe starting from the ground... The persons involved in this have experience from past brands so that's not a excuse to release a bunch of boring shoes that dont bring nothing new to the table. Habitat footwear had a strong first entry... http://www.hookit.com/members/youwillsoon/news/habitat-footwear/ (http://www.hookit.com/members/youwillsoon/news/habitat-footwear/)

A chukka rip off, a half cab rip off, and a dunk rip off, and a hiking/running shoe was a strong first line?

So do you want them to reinvent the wheel? Every shoe takes inspiration from other shoes and those arent even that blatant rip-offs...
They look like they had some thought into it unlike the State ones that look like some standard shoe silhouettes.

No I didn't want Habitat shoes to reinvent the wheel. I never even wanted Habitat shoes. I agree that it's a less generic offering than State, but I think part of it is that Habitat had a preexisting identity when the shoes came out, so that influenced a lot of things from creativity to market perception. I just find it odd that you're bemoaning State for a lack of creativity in design but then praising Habitat for the same lack of creativity.

I think Habitats initial shoe offering was excellent business wise. They released a line of super diverse models which enabled them to find what their target market was most interested in and then refine the line for the coming seasons. Of course certain styles always always do well but when branching off an existing brand (like Habitat did from boards to shoes) your first customers will likely be people who are already fans of the existing brand, so while Habitat wasn't excluded from the market as a whole, a lot of their business was going to come from a specific group of people, I.E. Eco loving naturalist types who already feel a strong connection to Habitat.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Olabade on April 17, 2016, 07:29:05 AM
So the State catalog is generic and bland, but Habitat can't be expected to reinvent the wheel? ha, okay.

So you want some robot looking shoes?? Skateboarders dont like big changes (aka reinvent the wheel)... You need to work with what you already got and bring something new here and there. Habitat shoes had plenty details that made them not look like every other shoe out there even if they got one or other similar silhouette. Even the sole was not just a herringbone pattern, and actually had some thought into it. They were not just a generic silhouette with a vulc sole like this state catalog. Sometimes i thing you guys are blind.

In the end skaters didn't dig the Habitat designs enough to keep them in business.

I personally think that most iconic and best selling skate shoes are designwise super simple. If I go to a skatepark near me I will definately see a lot of adi-ease, janoski, cons cts, vans slip on and era. Hell I think the most common cupsole is emerica laced. All of them super simple. Of course there are also some new and more complex looking stuff but those come and go. The simple desings seem to stand the test of time better.

Do you think Koston 3 or westgate runnertoe shove will be around in three years? Not saying they're bad shoes.



People dont bought habitat simply because of their name... It was like element shoes, Nobody wants a deck/shoe company. It feels strange to skate a whatever deck brand and then habitat shoes, call it an OCD i dont know, i dont like it either. That and the limited team. They were cursed from the start in my opinion.

And tech shoes appeal to different niche of people that dont want the same looking shoe and want progress. If they last in the line? I dont know. I do know you need to make things interesting, so why Dekline folded? Because every shoe they had was like every other simple shoe out there, they were bland. Simpler designs stand the test of time if they are authentic. People want authenticy and not straight knock-ofs.

Totally agree on everything. And tech shoes being a niche within skateboarding shoemarket, it would be a risky investment for a new start up to start their line with.

Also I bet every shoe company wants to design a simple, authentic and original skate shoe, it is just extremely hard.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Deepern0ah on April 17, 2016, 10:42:22 AM
https://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/state_holiday2016_catalog_issuu (https://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/state_holiday2016_catalog_issuu)
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 17, 2016, 11:27:19 AM


Totally agree on everything. And tech shoes being a niche within skateboarding shoemarket, it would be a risky investment for a new start up to start their line with.

Also I bet every shoe company wants to design a simple, authentic and original skate shoe, it is just extremely hard.

I didnt say they should have tech shoes... I know thats not their goal at all. Ahah I dont see this brand appealing to tech dudes, at least for now. I say just some variety would be good, a cupsole here and there, maybe a rubber toe too, clean designs of course. And yeah, a simple, authentic and original skate shoe is hard as fuck to do because almost all the simple lines that work are already taken.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: oyolar on April 17, 2016, 11:46:47 AM
So the State catalog is generic and bland, but Habitat can't be expected to reinvent the wheel? ha, okay.

So you want some robot looking shoes?? Skateboarders dont like big changes (aka reinvent the wheel)... You need to work with what you already got and bring something new here and there. Habitat shoes had plenty details that made them not look like every other shoe out there even if they got one or other similar silhouette. Even the sole was not just a herringbone pattern, and actually had some thought into it. They were not just a generic silhouette with a vulc sole like this state catalog. Sometimes i thing you guys are blind.

In the end skaters didn't dig the Habitat designs enough to keep them in business.


When he was on Tim O'Connor's podcast, Castrucci said that Habitat Footwear was actually doing really well and was helping pay for a lot of stuff at Habitat.  It got shuttered because it was too much to cover with all of the ongoing shifts between ownership.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: zippy z on April 17, 2016, 12:10:53 PM
From the address it looks like it has a store front in a strip mall/apartment building. Weird. Anyone in SD going to go have a look?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Jake From State Farm on April 17, 2016, 12:50:13 PM
Holiday catalog looks good as well. Good to see a full photo of the team so you know who's involved. Jordan Sanchez! I'll buy all that shit.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Adam Abbas on April 17, 2016, 10:11:54 PM
https://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/state_holiday2016_catalog_issuu (https://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/state_holiday2016_catalog_issuu)

The Salem in blue/orange/white is nice. The Hudson in the same colourway and the Baxley as well.

Great team, good name, clean aesthetic, if the shoes are developed a bit more it could be a success. I'm sure they could with Castrucci's eye. I slept on Habitat shoes but in retrospect they looked great.

Also I bet every shoe company wants to design a simple, authentic and original skate shoe, it is just extremely hard.

That's true. Semi-related to that is a design idea I have about a slightly more tech hi-top, not quite Lakai Telford but more than the Sk8-Hi. I'd like to see a shoe like that, there just needs to be some new innovative shoes coming out in general. Then maybe the skate shoe industry can revert to what it was in 2000, but probably not.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: TheAmericanAntique on April 18, 2016, 05:41:25 AM
I just have a feeling, but I feel like state's gonna grow to something really big!
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Turtle Boy on April 18, 2016, 06:00:17 AM
https://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/state_holiday2016_catalog_issuu (https://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/state_holiday2016_catalog_issuu)

Stale.




I hope they improve their design, because the team kills it.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Mr. Kamikazi on April 18, 2016, 07:14:11 AM
That Elgin shoe looks tight. It's clearly the same silhouette as the Habitat Quest, but I liked that shoe.

I wish they made a shoe that looked like the Gillette shoe he had on Habitat.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Watson on April 18, 2016, 10:30:29 AM
From my understanding as someone who manages and buys for a shop that will be carrying State, Castrucci is only involved in the visuals of the company, don't think he will have any of the same influence he had for Habitat. Also I was told Josh Stewart will be involved on the marketing side as far as making videos and stuff, so that should be good.

It's important to keep in mind that of course in the beginning the shoes are going to be simple vulc designs because those shoes are probably easier and cheaper to have produced. We're talking about a very small brand coming into a harsh corporate controlled climate.

Honestly we weren't blown away with the first catalog but decided to carry the brand anyway based on what it represents and the potential it carries. This is what people need to keep in mind. Obviously a smaller shoe brand just starting out isn't gonna come out of the gates making a Suciu ADV type shoe. It's just not possible. Maybe this is the time/brand for all the people to put their money where there mouths are and instead of complaining about the corporate takeover, go out and support a brand that maybe isn't as high quality or fancy as the big boys, but is doing it right.

I'm hopeful for the brand. It's gonna be a tough fight, but at least they're trying.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Makaveli on April 18, 2016, 10:36:48 AM
From my understanding as someone who manages and buys for a shop that will be carrying State, Castrucci is only involved in the visuals of the company, don't think he will have any of the same influence he had for Habitat. Also I was told Josh Stewart will be involved on the marketing side as far as making videos and stuff, so that should be good.

It's important to keep in mind that of course in the beginning the shoes are going to be simple vulc designs because those shoes are probably easier and cheaper to have produced. We're talking about a very small brand coming into a harsh corporate controlled climate.

Honestly we weren't blown away with the first catalog but decided to carry the brand anyway based on what it represents and the potential it carries. This is what people need to keep in mind. Obviously a smaller shoe brand just starting out isn't gonna come out of the gates making a Suciu ADV type shoe. It's just not possible. Maybe this is the time/brand for all the people to put their money where there mouths are and instead of complaining about the corporate takeover, go out and support a brand that maybe isn't as high quality or fancy as the big boys, but is doing it right.

I'm hopeful for the brand. It's gonna be a tough fight, but at least they're trying.

This is moving. With names like Castrucci and Josh Stewart involved, this should be good, given time.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Jake From State Farm on April 18, 2016, 11:35:01 AM
From my understanding as someone who manages and buys for a shop that will be carrying State, Castrucci is only involved in the visuals of the company, don't think he will have any of the same influence he had for Habitat. Also I was told Josh Stewart will be involved on the marketing side as far as making videos and stuff, so that should be good.

It's important to keep in mind that of course in the beginning the shoes are going to be simple vulc designs because those shoes are probably easier and cheaper to have produced. We're talking about a very small brand coming into a harsh corporate controlled climate.

Honestly we weren't blown away with the first catalog but decided to carry the brand anyway based on what it represents and the potential it carries. This is what people need to keep in mind. Obviously a smaller shoe brand just starting out isn't gonna come out of the gates making a Suciu ADV type shoe. It's just not possible. Maybe this is the time/brand for all the people to put their money where there mouths are and instead of complaining about the corporate takeover, go out and support a brand that maybe isn't as high quality or fancy as the big boys, but is doing it right.

I'm hopeful for the brand. It's gonna be a tough fight, but at least they're trying.

This is moving. With names like Castrucci and Josh Stewart involved, this should be good, given time.

Damn. They really got a good crew working on the company.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: doyle on April 18, 2016, 12:09:19 PM
From my understanding as someone who manages and buys for a shop that will be carrying State, Castrucci is only involved in the visuals of the company, don't think he will have any of the same influence he had for Habitat. Also I was told Josh Stewart will be involved on the marketing side as far as making videos and stuff, so that should be good.

It's important to keep in mind that of course in the beginning the shoes are going to be simple vulc designs because those shoes are probably easier and cheaper to have produced. We're talking about a very small brand coming into a harsh corporate controlled climate.

Honestly we weren't blown away with the first catalog but decided to carry the brand anyway based on what it represents and the potential it carries. This is what people need to keep in mind. Obviously a smaller shoe brand just starting out isn't gonna come out of the gates making a Suciu ADV type shoe. It's just not possible. Maybe this is the time/brand for all the people to put their money where there mouths are and instead of complaining about the corporate takeover, go out and support a brand that maybe isn't as high quality or fancy as the big boys, but is doing it right.

I'm hopeful for the brand. It's gonna be a tough fight, but at least they're trying.
do you know if they're getting a canadian distributor or is it coming straight from the states?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: zippy z on April 18, 2016, 12:28:56 PM
As much as JC has been annoying me with his recent collabs, if JS is involved with this I will definitely buy.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Allen. on April 18, 2016, 12:48:20 PM
HYFR, if JC AND JS are involved... I'm fr down tbh.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Second Division on April 18, 2016, 01:22:09 PM
It's important to keep in mind that of course in the beginning the shoes are going to be simple vulc designs because those shoes are probably easier and cheaper to have produced. We're talking about a very small brand coming into a harsh corporate controlled climate.

Was actually thinking about this a bit more since my last post... They don't show the sole/tooling on all the shoes, but my guess is it's all the same to reduce costs, thus why they only have vulc shoes
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Watson on April 18, 2016, 02:09:53 PM
From my understanding as someone who manages and buys for a shop that will be carrying State, Castrucci is only involved in the visuals of the company, don't think he will have any of the same influence he had for Habitat. Also I was told Josh Stewart will be involved on the marketing side as far as making videos and stuff, so that should be good.

It's important to keep in mind that of course in the beginning the shoes are going to be simple vulc designs because those shoes are probably easier and cheaper to have produced. We're talking about a very small brand coming into a harsh corporate controlled climate.

Honestly we weren't blown away with the first catalog but decided to carry the brand anyway based on what it represents and the potential it carries. This is what people need to keep in mind. Obviously a smaller shoe brand just starting out isn't gonna come out of the gates making a Suciu ADV type shoe. It's just not possible. Maybe this is the time/brand for all the people to put their money where there mouths are and instead of complaining about the corporate takeover, go out and support a brand that maybe isn't as high quality or fancy as the big boys, but is doing it right.

I'm hopeful for the brand. It's gonna be a tough fight, but at least they're trying.
do you know if they're getting a canadian distributor or is it coming straight from the states?

Ultimate Dist is doing them in Canada because of the Dekline/Tum Yeto connection.

Prices aren't super low on them, but like I was mentioning it seems like a company worth supporting regardless.

And yeah they're definitely going for that smaller brand supporting customer who's into Theories/Polar/Magenta/Welcome, etc, etc.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: shit_for_brains on April 18, 2016, 02:10:45 PM
From my understanding as someone who manages and buys for a shop that will be carrying State, Castrucci is only involved in the visuals of the company, don't think he will have any of the same influence he had for Habitat. Also I was told Josh Stewart will be involved on the marketing side as far as making videos and stuff, so that should be good.

It's important to keep in mind that of course in the beginning the shoes are going to be simple vulc designs because those shoes are probably easier and cheaper to have produced. We're talking about a very small brand coming into a harsh corporate controlled climate.

Honestly we weren't blown away with the first catalog but decided to carry the brand anyway based on what it represents and the potential it carries. This is what people need to keep in mind. Obviously a smaller shoe brand just starting out isn't gonna come out of the gates making a Suciu ADV type shoe. It's just not possible. Maybe this is the time/brand for all the people to put their money where there mouths are and instead of complaining about the corporate takeover, go out and support a brand that maybe isn't as high quality or fancy as the big boys, but is doing it right.

I'm hopeful for the brand. It's gonna be a tough fight, but at least they're trying.
do you know if they're getting a canadian distributor or is it coming straight from the states?

Ultimate Dist is doing them in Canada because of the Dekline/Tum Yeto connection.

Prices aren't super low on them, but like I was mentioning it seems like a company worth supporting regardless.

And yeah they're definitely going for that smaller brand supporting customer who's into Theories/Polar/Magenta/Welcome, etc, etc.

How not super low?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on April 18, 2016, 02:14:48 PM
From my understanding as someone who manages and buys for a shop that will be carrying State, Castrucci is only involved in the visuals of the company, don't think he will have any of the same influence he had for Habitat. Also I was told Josh Stewart will be involved on the marketing side as far as making videos and stuff, so that should be good.

It's important to keep in mind that of course in the beginning the shoes are going to be simple vulc designs because those shoes are probably easier and cheaper to have produced. We're talking about a very small brand coming into a harsh corporate controlled climate.

Honestly we weren't blown away with the first catalog but decided to carry the brand anyway based on what it represents and the potential it carries. This is what people need to keep in mind. Obviously a smaller shoe brand just starting out isn't gonna come out of the gates making a Suciu ADV type shoe. It's just not possible. Maybe this is the time/brand for all the people to put their money where there mouths are and instead of complaining about the corporate takeover, go out and support a brand that maybe isn't as high quality or fancy as the big boys, but is doing it right.

I'm hopeful for the brand. It's gonna be a tough fight, but at least they're trying.
do you know if they're getting a canadian distributor or is it coming straight from the states?

Ultimate Dist is doing them in Canada because of the Dekline/Tum Yeto connection.

Prices aren't super low on them, but like I was mentioning it seems like a company worth supporting regardless.

And yeah they're definitely going for that smaller brand supporting customer who's into Theories/Polar/Magenta/Welcome, etc, etc.

How not super low?

High, he means high.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Leaky McBurnside on April 18, 2016, 02:16:04 PM
From my understanding as someone who manages and buys for a shop that will be carrying State, Castrucci is only involved in the visuals of the company, don't think he will have any of the same influence he had for Habitat. Also I was told Josh Stewart will be involved on the marketing side as far as making videos and stuff, so that should be good.

It's important to keep in mind that of course in the beginning the shoes are going to be simple vulc designs because those shoes are probably easier and cheaper to have produced. We're talking about a very small brand coming into a harsh corporate controlled climate.

Honestly we weren't blown away with the first catalog but decided to carry the brand anyway based on what it represents and the potential it carries. This is what people need to keep in mind. Obviously a smaller shoe brand just starting out isn't gonna come out of the gates making a Suciu ADV type shoe. It's just not possible. Maybe this is the time/brand for all the people to put their money where there mouths are and instead of complaining about the corporate takeover, go out and support a brand that maybe isn't as high quality or fancy as the big boys, but is doing it right.

I'm hopeful for the brand. It's gonna be a tough fight, but at least they're trying.

This is moving. With names like Castrucci and Josh Stewart involved, this should be good, given time.

Castrucci did some graphic work. He has no stake. Not involved other than they are friends and he did some graphics.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: 144p on April 18, 2016, 03:33:35 PM
Shoes range from $55-70 roughly.
Watson made some great points, consumers demand a lot, for the sake of the industry we should give them a chance to develop.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on April 18, 2016, 04:12:15 PM
Shoes range from $55-70 roughly.
Watson made some great points, consumers demand a lot, for the sake of the industry we should give them a chance to develop.


That's not bad then. I was thinking they were going to gouge us with $80 vulcs ala Huf.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: shit_for_brains on April 18, 2016, 04:25:49 PM
Shoes range from $55-70 roughly.
Watson made some great points, consumers demand a lot, for the sake of the industry we should give them a chance to develop.


That's not bad then. I was thinking they were going to gouge us with $80 vulcs ala Huf.

That shit is so overpriced. Huf should be at the top of every list of people bitching about shoe prices. Those things should at least be in emerica's price range.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: 144p on April 18, 2016, 05:01:21 PM
At least they made a canvas/suede version for $65
http://www.hufworldwide.com/product-detail/footwear/classic-lo-ess-navy-white (http://www.hufworldwide.com/product-detail/footwear/classic-lo-ess-navy-white)
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: bluntstofakie on April 18, 2016, 05:39:57 PM
Not feeling any part of this company. The shoe names are terrible. I give it a year at the most. 
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: fulfillthedream on April 18, 2016, 07:31:24 PM
Im really hyped on the team! Interesting how a shoe brand has skaters from smaller brands and they didn't start off with any big name pros ( i dont think filament did either )

 im trying to be optimistic and hoping they come through with something non-vulc. its obvious their not going for a tech look but they can still make a better line up than this in my opinion. look at Lakai, they've  taken a lot of their vulc models, threw the xlk cupsole and beefed em up a tad bit.

also if josh stewart is gonna be head of the video/ads should be more interesting. wonder who will be added to the line up?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: concerned_parent on April 19, 2016, 04:48:59 AM
At least they made a canvas/suede version for $65
http://www.hufworldwide.com/product-detail/footwear/classic-lo-ess-navy-white (http://www.hufworldwide.com/product-detail/footwear/classic-lo-ess-navy-white)

plus they're on clearance everywhere i look...you could easily scoop a pair of classics for $30 with 10 minutes of digging.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: perverted super otaku! on April 19, 2016, 05:25:29 AM
After looking at the catalog again and thinking about the company it could actually be pretty damn cool, I'll scoop up a pair of the Elgins when i can. They kinda f'd up by putting what looks like leather ribbings around the back of the canvas Mercer's ankle, would be a cool option for a vegan mid which is a pretty rare thing I think, if your gonna use leather on a canvas shoe at least have it help the shoe function by putting in the danger zones

any word on the Canadian price range?

edit: They actaully added 2 vegan Mercers in the fall 16 catalog, fuck yea, seems pretty damn cool
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Watson on April 19, 2016, 09:49:49 AM
Pricing for Canada is gonna be around $90 to $115 which is definitely on the pricey side for what they are, but then again the price of everything is going up drastically anyway.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: shit_for_brains on April 19, 2016, 11:02:58 AM
That's crazy. The dudes running it and their message are great, but those prices are fucking looney tunes. That's like $50 for the shoe and another $50 mandatory donation. I can't support $115 canvas skate shoes.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: perverted super otaku! on April 19, 2016, 11:10:43 AM
yea that price range reduced my stoke a bit, to me it seems outrageous, like suede huf classics sell for 80 and even that is fucked imo
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 19, 2016, 11:17:26 AM
That's crazy. The dudes running it and their message are great, but those prices are fucking looney tunes. That's like $50 for the shoe and another $50 mandatory donation. I can't support $115 canvas skate shoes.

But arent those prices just for Canada?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: shit_for_brains on April 19, 2016, 11:18:48 AM
That's crazy. The dudes running it and their message are great, but those prices are fucking looney tunes. That's like $50 for the shoe and another $50 mandatory donation. I can't support $115 canvas skate shoes.

But arent those prices just for Canada?

That still puts them in the $70 - $100 range, which you may notice is where durable tech shoes live.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: art hellman on April 19, 2016, 11:39:15 AM
while everyone was scared of the heel...I just want to point out the Adidas Silas SLR was a cupsole* and sold for $65 retail.  An affordable/basic cupsole can/and should be done again. 


* even had a gusseted tongue (which should be standard for shoes and not a "feature")


Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 19, 2016, 11:41:36 AM
That's crazy. The dudes running it and their message are great, but those prices are fucking looney tunes. That's like $50 for the shoe and another $50 mandatory donation. I can't support $115 canvas skate shoes.

But arent those prices just for Canada?

That still puts them in the $70 - $100 range, which you may notice is where durable tech shoes live.

Well, 144p told in the middle of this page that prices range between $55 and $70.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on April 19, 2016, 11:52:13 AM
$115 in Canada/$90 States, fuck alllllll that.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: perverted super otaku! on April 19, 2016, 11:56:24 AM
The only way this could make sense is if the shoes came with a full length Josh Stewart video featuring the State team
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Watson on April 19, 2016, 11:56:39 AM
while everyone was scared of the heel...I just want to point out the Adidas Silas SLR was a cupsole* and sold for $65 retail.� An affordable/basic cupsole can/and should be done again.�


* even had a gusseted tongue (which should be standard for shoes and not a "feature")




That's true but I feel like there's no way a new company without the manufacturing resources and history that Adidas, Nike, Cons, etc have is going to be able to make a shoe like that for a decent price. It's sad but true. It's like hoping you can get Wal-Mart prices at the local corner store. So I guess it just comes down to the classic dilemma:  Pay more and support something small or pay less and support something big.

Not trying to put myself on a moral high horse here either. I wear Vans mostly but I like Cons a lot too. I'm just offering a different look at it. I really hope this company can pull it off, but there's a lot of barriers in their way.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: shit_for_brains on April 19, 2016, 12:03:13 PM
That's crazy. The dudes running it and their message are great, but those prices are fucking looney tunes. That's like $50 for the shoe and another $50 mandatory donation. I can't support $115 canvas skate shoes.

But arent those prices just for Canada?

That still puts them in the $70 - $100 range, which you may notice is where durable tech shoes live.

Well, 144p told in the middle of this page that prices range between $55 and $70.

Well, Watson told me a few posts above that they're $90-$115CAD which is $70-$90USD.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Randozzi on April 19, 2016, 12:04:06 PM
Import taxes/customs duties add to the cost for Canadians.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: art hellman on April 19, 2016, 12:09:17 PM
oh, totally, and I wasn't necessarily directing the $65 cupsole at State. Just seems like everyone expects a cupsole to be more expensive than a vulc... when, there have been examples that it doesn't have to always be the case.

sorta on the same line... canvas doesn't always mean a shoe will blow out in one session.  I had a pair of canvas adi-ease that lasted a while thanks to the placement of the foxing tape. 

if the State shoes are made well...I'd be happy to buy a pair. 



Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: slappies on April 19, 2016, 12:42:46 PM
I'd be happy putting money in the pockets of anyone involved in this, it's just a lot of money coming out of my pocket into theirs. Then again, as said before, it is a skater owned company and it's something everyone is hoping for right now. I'll grab a pair, and if they're worth it I'm sure I'll get a few more. If it isn't, well God have mercy on their souls.

EDIT: FUCK I should have said "soles" not "souls".
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Julz on April 19, 2016, 03:06:12 PM
You guys are aware that on a $60-80 pair of shoes, a small company like state will earn very little (if any) profits for the first 3-5 years. Add the fact that the odds of surviving are very small. There's alot of hands to feed before catching the big bucks, especially when you don't have the big box resources. They're gambling on this one, and it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs)

That being said, their shoes still look like shit... Sorry, it's just a dekline 2.0 for me.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: shit_for_brains on April 19, 2016, 03:32:50 PM
You guys are aware that on a $60-80 pair of shoes, a small company like state will earn very little (if any) profits for the first 3-5 years. Add the fact that the odds of surviving are very small. There's alot of hands to feed before catching the big bucks, especially when you don't have the big box resources. They're gambling on this one, and it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs)

That being said, their shoes still look like shit... Sorry, it's just a dekline 2.0 for me.

That paragraph combined with their initial high prices just makes them sound like a charity case I am somehow obligated to support.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on April 19, 2016, 04:17:46 PM
You guys are aware that on a $60-80 pair of shoes, a small company like state will earn very little (if any) profits for the first 3-5 years. Add the fact that the odds of surviving are very small. There's alot of hands to feed before catching the big bucks, especially when you don't have the big box resources. They're gambling on this one, and it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs)

That being said, their shoes still look like shit... Sorry, it's just a dekline 2.0 for me.

That paragraph combined with their initial high prices just makes them sound like a charity case I am somehow obligated to support.

BUT IT'S SKATER OWNED BRO.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 19, 2016, 04:46:21 PM
You guys are aware that on a $60-80 pair of shoes, a small company like state will earn very little (if any) profits for the first 3-5 years. Add the fact that the odds of surviving are very small. There's alot of hands to feed before catching the big bucks, especially when you don't have the big box resources. They're gambling on this one, and it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs)

That being said, their shoes still look like shit... Sorry, it's just a dekline 2.0 for me.

That paragraph combined with their initial high prices just makes them sound like a charity case I am somehow obligated to support.

BUT IT'S SKATER OWNED BRO.

I just love this idea of supporting a brand that tries to sell you a product for all the reasons in existence, from concept to "skater-owned" but the quality of the product itself.
A guy tried to convince me that i shouldnt buy nike's or adidas because skate industry isnt about the product, is about the feeling and counter-culture. I laughted.
If you dont like the product that a brand is trying to sell, you shouldnt feel bad for not support them, skater owned or not.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: 144p on April 19, 2016, 06:59:28 PM
I just love this idea of supporting a brand that tries to sell you a product for all the reasons in existence, from concept to "skater-owned" but the quality of the product itself.
A guy tried to convince me that i shouldnt buy nike's or adidas because skate industry isnt about the product, is about the feeling and counter-culture. I laughted.
If you dont like the product that a brand is trying to sell, you shouldnt feel bad for not support them, skater owned or not.
Harsh reality but very true.
You can't half step to one of the most snap judgement industries out there.
Gonna have an open mind for this brand and hope for the best.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Julz on April 19, 2016, 08:47:17 PM
You guys are aware that on a $60-80 pair of shoes, a small company like state will earn very little (if any) profits for the first 3-5 years. Add the fact that the odds of surviving are very small. There's alot of hands to feed before catching the big bucks, especially when you don't have the big box resources. They're gambling on this one, and it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs)

That being said, their shoes still look like shit... Sorry, it's just a dekline 2.0 for me.

That paragraph combined with their initial high prices just makes them sound like a charity case I am somehow obligated to support.

Totally, the idea of supporting skater owned is to support guys who share the same/similar vision as ours of what skateboarding is.... Why else do we care about who makes the profit ?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: j....soy..... on April 19, 2016, 09:07:40 PM
Import taxes/customs duties add to the cost for Canadians.

Tack on the change in the CAD.....

Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: shit_for_brains on April 19, 2016, 09:50:53 PM
You guys are aware that on a $60-80 pair of shoes, a small company like state will earn very little (if any) profits for the first 3-5 years. Add the fact that the odds of surviving are very small. There's alot of hands to feed before catching the big bucks, especially when you don't have the big box resources. They're gambling on this one, and it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs)

That being said, their shoes still look like shit... Sorry, it's just a dekline 2.0 for me.

That paragraph combined with their initial high prices just makes them sound like a charity case I am somehow obligated to support.

Totally, the idea of supporting skater owned is to support guys who share the same/similar vision as ours of what skateboarding is.... Why else do we care about who makes the profit ?

You're a sucker.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Julz on April 20, 2016, 04:17:54 AM
You're taking this shit too seriously
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: shit_for_brains on April 20, 2016, 07:33:59 AM
You're abandoning your argument with a weak deflection. You don't think it's shitty that you're expected to overpay for some pro-keds simply because the guys making them also skate? Your "core" beliefs are being exploited, ding dong.

But hey, they skate so we owe them.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: j....soy..... on April 20, 2016, 07:41:14 AM
In the 90's skaters abandoned skate shoes to skate Pumas and adidas ie. At the time non skate shoes.....I don't expect that to happen...

Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Julz on April 20, 2016, 09:39:31 AM
You're abandoning your argument with a weak deflection. You don't think it's shitty that you're expected to overpay for some pro-keds simply because the guys making them also skate? Your "core" beliefs are being exploited, ding dong.

But hey, they skate so we owe them.

The only thing I did was justify the higher price tag on an independent and up and coming small brand. I never showed any signs of being a core guy. FFS, I've stated twice on this thread that they we're shit looking shoes, and more so, I've posted a bunch of busenitz on SLAP. All i said was that it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs).

So, going back to my statement, you do take this shit too seriously and you are over analyzing my quote simply cause that's all you seem to do with your life, trying to get into arguments with people on SLAP.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Makaveli on April 20, 2016, 09:41:56 AM
You're abandoning your argument with a weak deflection. You don't think it's shitty that you're expected to overpay for some pro-keds simply because the guys making them also skate? Your "core" beliefs are being exploited, ding dong.

But hey, they skate so we owe them.

The only thing I did was justify the higher price tag on an independent and up and coming small brand. I never showed any signs of being a core guy. FFS, I've stated twice on this thread that they we're shit looking shoes, and more so, I've posted a bunch of busenitz on SLAP. All i said was that it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs).

So, going back to my statement, you do take this shit too seriously and you are over analyzing my quote simply cause that's all you seem to do with your life, trying to get into arguments with people on SLAP.


Hey, don't about worry shit for brains. He's just a surly old fart that's bitter about all the people he grew up skating with turning pro, while the closest thing he got to that was Bobby Puleo fucking his girlfriend.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: shit_for_brains on April 20, 2016, 10:21:23 AM
You're abandoning your argument with a weak deflection. You don't think it's shitty that you're expected to overpay for some pro-keds simply because the guys making them also skate? Your "core" beliefs are being exploited, ding dong.

But hey, they skate so we owe them.

The only thing I did was justify the higher price tag on an independent and up and coming small brand. I never showed any signs of being a core guy. FFS, I've stated twice on this thread that they we're shit looking shoes, and more so, I've posted a bunch of busenitz on SLAP. All i said was that it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs).

So, going back to my statement, you do take this shit too seriously and you are over analyzing my quote simply cause that's all you seem to do with your life, trying to get into arguments with people on SLAP.


Hey, don't about worry shit for brains. He's just a surly old fart that's bitter about all the people he grew up skating with turning pro, while the closest thing he got to that was Bobby Puleo fucking his girlfriend.

Do you need attention?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: GAY on April 20, 2016, 11:46:06 AM
Not feeling any part of this company. The shoe names are terrible. I give it a year at the most. 

This made me laugh and roll my eyes simultaneously. Are we really buying/not buying shoes based on the name a particular model is given?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Tracer on April 20, 2016, 02:21:56 PM
I just have a feeling, but I feel like state's gonna grow to something really big!
Yep people round here will eat this shit up. Very heavy intro catalog, the Salem looks good

(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--MqS9OBUW--/z8gdpn0zajx2mwociyia.jpg)
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: brwrxstl on April 20, 2016, 03:29:40 PM
As much as JC has been annoying me with his recent collabs, if JS is involved with this I will definitely buy.

Looking back at it all that collab shit was like the beginning of the end for AWS too. I mean has Habitat even been back for a year yet? I fucking lazy can they get.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Makaveli on April 20, 2016, 03:55:09 PM
You're abandoning your argument with a weak deflection. You don't think it's shitty that you're expected to overpay for some pro-keds simply because the guys making them also skate? Your "core" beliefs are being exploited, ding dong.

But hey, they skate so we owe them.

The only thing I did was justify the higher price tag on an independent and up and coming small brand. I never showed any signs of being a core guy. FFS, I've stated twice on this thread that they we're shit looking shoes, and more so, I've posted a bunch of busenitz on SLAP. All i said was that it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs).

So, going back to my statement, you do take this shit too seriously and you are over analyzing my quote simply cause that's all you seem to do with your life, trying to get into arguments with people on SLAP.


Hey, don't about worry shit for brains. He's just a surly old fart that's bitter about all the people he grew up skating with turning pro, while the closest thing he got to that was Bobby Puleo fucking his girlfriend.

Do you need attention?

Repeatedly saying I call you out because I want attention says more about your motivation for calling people out. It is, as Julz already stated, all you seem to do with your life.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: brwrxstl on April 20, 2016, 03:57:44 PM
90% of the "skater owned" shoe companies out there kooked themselves right into extinction doing exactly what they accused the big brands of doing....

Going after the $$$$$
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Sold Out on April 20, 2016, 04:00:21 PM
How you guys seen the team yet?! ... YAJE  :)
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Jordick on April 20, 2016, 04:04:08 PM
At least they made a canvas/suede version for $65
http://www.hufworldwide.com/product-detail/footwear/classic-lo-ess-navy-white (http://www.hufworldwide.com/product-detail/footwear/classic-lo-ess-navy-white)

plus they're on clearance everywhere i look...you could easily scoop a pair of classics for $30 with 10 minutes of digging.
You could always get em at Walmart for cheap
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: shit_for_brains on April 20, 2016, 06:03:58 PM
You're abandoning your argument with a weak deflection. You don't think it's shitty that you're expected to overpay for some pro-keds simply because the guys making them also skate? Your "core" beliefs are being exploited, ding dong.

But hey, they skate so we owe them.

The only thing I did was justify the higher price tag on an independent and up and coming small brand. I never showed any signs of being a core guy. FFS, I've stated twice on this thread that they we're shit looking shoes, and more so, I've posted a bunch of busenitz on SLAP. All i said was that it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs).

So, going back to my statement, you do take this shit too seriously and you are over analyzing my quote simply cause that's all you seem to do with your life, trying to get into arguments with people on SLAP.


Hey, don't about worry shit for brains. He's just a surly old fart that's bitter about all the people he grew up skating with turning pro, while the closest thing he got to that was Bobby Puleo fucking his girlfriend.

Do you need attention?

Repeatedly saying I call you out because I want attention says more about your motivation for calling people out. It is, as Julz already stated, all you seem to do with your life.

Be serious. You keep tabs on me. Yes I'm jealous I never walked off a building or went to prison for stealing from my dad, but my ex thought Puleo was some kind of sex offender and he followed her around with his nose up her ass (like you do to me!). You know that because I told you years ago when you brought it up. Update your file.

All I do with my life is work. I know you have "several" "degrees", but a lot of us who work indoors do so on computers. If you put those degrees to use you can sort the time spent on slap part out.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Second Division on April 20, 2016, 08:26:21 PM
In the 90's skaters abandoned skate shoes to skate Pumas and adidas ie. At the time non skate shoes.....I don't expect that to happen...



This.

Also, people started skating skate shoe brands in the first place because the big companies didn't really make skate shoes (ie. Jordan 1's worked, but still weren't ideal). Essentially, all the "core" brands appeared to fill a void in the market that was there for many years, that the larger brands are now filling with their quality product actually meant for skating, and forcing those core brands back out.

That being said, I still try to not buy from Nike, Adidas, Cons, but just making an overall point of what's going on that I feel like so many people forget about because they are stuck on the "skater-owned" argument.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Makaveli on April 20, 2016, 09:06:31 PM
You're abandoning your argument with a weak deflection. You don't think it's shitty that you're expected to overpay for some pro-keds simply because the guys making them also skate? Your "core" beliefs are being exploited, ding dong.

But hey, they skate so we owe them.

The only thing I did was justify the higher price tag on an independent and up and coming small brand. I never showed any signs of being a core guy. FFS, I've stated twice on this thread that they we're shit looking shoes, and more so, I've posted a bunch of busenitz on SLAP. All i said was that it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs).

So, going back to my statement, you do take this shit too seriously and you are over analyzing my quote simply cause that's all you seem to do with your life, trying to get into arguments with people on SLAP.


Hey, don't about worry shit for brains. He's just a surly old fart that's bitter about all the people he grew up skating with turning pro, while the closest thing he got to that was Bobby Puleo fucking his girlfriend.

Do you need attention?

Repeatedly saying I call you out because I want attention says more about your motivation for calling people out. It is, as Julz already stated, all you seem to do with your life.

Be serious. You keep tabs on me. Yes I'm jealous I never walked off a building or went to prison for stealing from my dad, but my ex thought Puleo was some kind of sex offender and he followed her around with his nose up her ass (like you do to me!). You know that because I told you years ago when you brought it up. Update your file.

All I do with my life is work. I know you have "several" "degrees", but a lot of us who work indoors do so on computers. If you put those degrees to use you can sort the time spent on slap part out.

Oh c'mon, you know it's you who keeps tabs on me.

All I know about you is that Renaud/Puleo stuff. I like their skating, so your comments stood out to me because I think it's hilarious that someone they know goes on the internet and, not only talks shit about them, but about everybody else, too. How is that not memorable?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: jpmulls on July 21, 2016, 10:37:03 PM
Now that they are available does anyone know how to get 50% off your first order?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on July 21, 2016, 10:44:07 PM
relevant interview: http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2016/05/23/introducing-state-footwear-a-new-skateboard-shoe-brand/ (http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2016/05/23/introducing-state-footwear-a-new-skateboard-shoe-brand/)
(did this get posted here? apologies if it did...)
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: ferraveemo on July 22, 2016, 04:47:57 AM
damn they already got some pairs before majority of shops? haha

http://www.zumiez.com/brands/state-footwear.html (http://www.zumiez.com/brands/state-footwear.html)
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: shit_for_brains on July 22, 2016, 05:43:03 AM
He said in interviews he was going to sell to zumiez straight away to stay alive long enough to do a second run.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: bluntstofakie on July 22, 2016, 06:23:58 AM
Not feeling any part of this company. The shoe names are terrible. I give it a year at the most. 

This made me laugh and roll my eyes simultaneously. Are we really buying/not buying shoes based on the name a particular model is given?
I honestly would not be able to look someone straight in the face, and tell them that the shoes I'm wearing are called state elgins without feeling like a fucking idiot. How do you even pronounce that? L-gin or L-jin? Sounds like some lord of the rings fairy shit.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Main on July 22, 2016, 09:16:51 AM
I'm all for supporting skater owned as long as they offer something durable and supportive, but we don't need State footwear that's for sure. Same old designs with no supportive insoles. Nothing that stands out. I don't see them lasting very long.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: jpmulls on July 22, 2016, 10:49:00 AM
I'm all for supporting skater owned as long as they offer something durable and supportive, but we don't need State footwear that's for sure. Same old designs with no supportive insoles. Nothing that stands out. I don't see them lasting very long.

Have you tried them on? I was quite pleased with their insoles. Far better than what Emerica and Lakai put in theirs.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: pointandclick on July 22, 2016, 11:28:07 AM
I'm all for supporting skater owned as long as they offer something durable and supportive, but we don't need State footwear that's for sure. Same old designs with no supportive insoles. Nothing that stands out. I don't see them lasting very long.

Have you tried them on? I was quite pleased with their insoles. Far better than what Emerica and Lakai put in theirs.
how is the sizing, true or big?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: dumptruck12 on July 22, 2016, 02:20:29 PM
I just skated a pair and I loved them, slim shoe but great board feel and great grip. The only thing that sucks is there's so much canvas. Even on the suede ones, they have canvas on the sides...but I'm sure on their second run they will fix that
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: fangen on July 22, 2016, 05:35:35 PM
I'm all for supporting skater owned as long as they offer something durable and supportive, but we don't need State footwear that's for sure. Same old designs with no supportive insoles. Nothing that stands out. I don't see them lasting very long.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: jpmulls on July 22, 2016, 09:50:55 PM
how is the sizing, true or big?

I wear 8.5 in anything Sole Tech and an 8 in State fit me. I only tried on the Elgin model though.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Main on July 23, 2016, 10:10:38 AM
^misquote.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: oyolar on July 23, 2016, 10:41:30 AM
Not feeling any part of this company. The shoe names are terrible. I give it a year at the most. 

This made me laugh and roll my eyes simultaneously. Are we really buying/not buying shoes based on the name a particular model is given?
I honestly would not be able to look someone straight in the face, and tell them that the shoes I'm wearing are called state elgins without feeling like a fucking idiot. How do you even pronounce that? L-gin or L-jin? Sounds like some lord of the rings fairy shit.

You're joking right?  That has to be the dumbest thing I've heard someone say about not supporting a company.  I hope English isn't your first language because Elgin (pronounced "el-jin") is not an uncommon word and it follows some pretty basic rules of the English language.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Main on July 23, 2016, 11:17:35 AM
The name and logo definitely sucks though.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: bluntstofakie on July 23, 2016, 05:16:00 PM
Not feeling any part of this company. The shoe names are terrible. I give it a year at the most.  

This made me laugh and roll my eyes simultaneously. Are we really buying/not buying shoes based on the name a particular model is given?
I honestly would not be able to look someone straight in the face, and tell them that the shoes I'm wearing are called state elgins without feeling like a fucking idiot. How do you even pronounce that? L-gin or L-jin? Sounds like some lord of the rings fairy shit.

You're joking right?  That has to be the dumbest thing I've heard someone say about not supporting a company.  I hope English isn't your first language because Elgin (pronounced "el-jin") is not an uncommon word and it follows some pretty basic rules of the English language.
I would never support this company even if they had better names. I quit wearing vulc a while ago. If anyone thought I was on the fence about getting a pair and the name was the main factor in not getting them, that's not the case.  As far as questioning my English goes, I had never once seen or heard the word elgin before. Just had to googel it. Looks to be a city in Illinois. Are you from Illinois? If not, what context do you use the word enough for it to be "not uncommon?" Also, it seems to have dual pronunciations according to a couple different online dictionary entries. Sometimes the English language isn't so basic sometimes huh?.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: micky682 on July 23, 2016, 05:57:09 PM
I'm all for supporting skater owned as long as they offer something durable and supportive, but we don't need State footwear that's for sure. Same old designs with no supportive insoles. Nothing that stands out. I don't see them lasting very long.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Watson on July 26, 2016, 12:59:32 PM
Our store just got our first shipment. We got the Baxley and the Elgin. The shoes look good in person, quality seems legit. Nice insoles too. I'm stoked on them.

Even though we ordered them I wasn't super convinced on the look of the shoes from the catalog but they definitely look way better in person. As everyone's mentioned the designs aren't revolutionary, but if you're looking for a classic design from a skater owned, definitely a good option.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: TwisT on July 26, 2016, 01:15:35 PM
Anyone skating them?
what's durability like?

Dekline was decent, but nowhere near cons or even etnies.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Mr. Kamikazi on July 27, 2016, 06:08:45 PM
It is way too early on to really critique this brand. What did you guys expect in the first run?

It's like someone with their PHD in fine art critiquing me in my first day of painting I as a college freshman.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Main on July 27, 2016, 06:34:13 PM
What did you guys expect in the first run?

Shoes that aren't the same as everything else with just a different name and logo on it.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on July 27, 2016, 06:51:36 PM
They were running a promo last month at the launch of the site; sign up, get half off. Well that link was broken forever and they didn't have half sizes. Now they have half sizes and no code. Great.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: BMCsteve on July 27, 2016, 09:06:24 PM
They were running a promo last month at the launch of the site; sign up, get half off. Well that link was broken forever and they didn't have half sizes. Now they have half sizes and no code. Great.

All State or any other shoe company has to do is have hidden lace loops.  that's it. stop my fucking laces from breaking and you can have all my shoe money. 
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: j....soy..... on July 27, 2016, 09:31:07 PM
I got these Kevlar laces I'm trying out....so far not bad...
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on July 27, 2016, 09:45:12 PM
I give them 2 months before they go on sale. Unless these blow up out of nowhere.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on July 28, 2016, 12:41:35 AM
It is way too early on to really critique this brand. What did you guys expect in the first run?

It's like someone with their PHD in fine art critiquing me in my first day of painting I as a college freshman.

This could make sense... if they didnt had experience from Dekline in the past.

So, by your analogy, they really know how to paint, they just chosen to be lazy with it.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Lonechicken on July 28, 2016, 07:46:33 AM
I got these Kevlar laces I'm trying out....so far not bad...

They last long, but they're a mutha fucker to tie. I had to resort to shoe goo-ing certain parts of those laces so that they don't constantly loosen up when they're tied.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: unerds on July 28, 2016, 10:00:06 AM
They were running a promo last month at the launch of the site; sign up, get half off. Well that link was broken forever and they didn't have half sizes. Now they have half sizes and no code. Great.

All State or any other shoe company has to do is have hidden lace loops.  that's it. stop my fucking laces from breaking and you can have all my shoe money. 

i don't know why the fuck that feature is so obscure now...

i remember when some brands first started doing this; hearing all this shit about 'moving the loops up away from the toe so your laces don't even touch the grip' - turned out to be complete bullshit, probably just to smooth over this cost cutting measure.

some emericas had a flap all the way up the side, covering them up completely... never broke a lace.

it kinda coincided with the death of extra toe cap edging... another cost cutting measure, sold as an "improvement" - oh, now you get one consistent panel that won't tear off, though that one was kinda valid.

either way, not having a cupsole is a deal breaker for me as well.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: ZEBRA on July 30, 2016, 12:16:10 AM
I tried on the Hudson tonight. It was really nice. Sizing is all fucked up though. I tried on a 10.5, and it fit like an 11. 10 was too narrow and too small. Pretty bummed.

Would've bought the 10.5, but they were just a little long in the toe. Don't think I would've been able to skate them
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Bubblegum Tate on July 30, 2016, 12:24:06 AM
http://www.atlasskateboarding.com/6404/state-fall-2016/ (http://www.atlasskateboarding.com/6404/state-fall-2016/)
(http://www.atlasskateboarding.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/State0716DebutCover.jpg)
(http://www.atlasskateboarding.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Baxley0716Black.jpg)
(http://www.atlasskateboarding.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Elgin0716Navy.jpg)
(http://www.atlasskateboarding.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Hudson0716Black.jpg)
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: IHOP on July 31, 2016, 12:45:00 AM
I just skated a pair and I loved them, slim shoe but great board feel and great grip. The only thing that sucks is there's so much canvas. Even on the suede ones, they have canvas on the sides...but I'm sure on their second run they will fix that

Maybe this is common knowledge but it's much cheaper for brands to do half suede vs. full suede shoes and thats why a lot of brands do the suede toe/canvas back half.  Still sucks but yeah usually its a cost thing
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: weregoingunion on July 31, 2016, 12:10:53 PM
got a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on August 13, 2016, 06:21:00 AM
got a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now

Could you post a photo of the insoles? It's the only thing holding me back from trying a pair. I feel like I've gotten spoiled with the adi-prene insoles in the superstars.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Xen on August 13, 2016, 06:14:09 PM
got a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now

So they run 1/2 size big, then?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Watson on August 15, 2016, 10:05:37 AM
So they run 1/2 size big, then?

Definitely from the ones I tried on.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: weregoingunion on August 15, 2016, 12:32:44 PM
got a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now

Could you post a photo of the insoles? It's the only thing holding me back from trying a pair. I feel like I've gotten spoiled with the adi-prene insoles in the superstars.
unless someone beats me to it, i gotchu when i get outta work!

got a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now

So they run 1/2 size big, then?
correct
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Makaveli on August 15, 2016, 09:39:27 PM

got a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now

So they run 1/2 size big, then?
correct

I got some Hudson's, they fit true to size.

Also, the shoes look really good in person.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on August 15, 2016, 10:54:08 PM
got a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now

Could you post a photo of the insoles? It's the only thing holding me back from trying a pair. I feel like I've gotten spoiled with the adi-prene insoles in the superstars.
unless someone beats me to it, i gotchu when i get outta work!

got a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now

So they run 1/2 size big, then?
correct

I don't mean to be that guy, but if you're normally a 10, but had to size up to a 10.5, the shoes run a half size small.

Carry on.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Watson on August 16, 2016, 10:41:03 AM
got a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now

Could you post a photo of the insoles? It's the only thing holding me back from trying a pair. I feel like I've gotten spoiled with the adi-prene insoles in the superstars.
unless someone beats me to it, i gotchu when i get outta work!

got a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now

So they run 1/2 size big, then?
correct

I don't mean to be that guy, but if you're normally a 10, but had to size up to a 10.5, the shoes run a half size small.

Carry on.

Yeah I don't know how you went up a size. I found they fit big, my regular size was too big for me.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: weregoingunion on August 16, 2016, 04:15:41 PM
got a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now

Could you post a photo of the insoles? It's the only thing holding me back from trying a pair. I feel like I've gotten spoiled with the adi-prene insoles in the superstars.
unless someone beats me to it, i gotchu when i get outta work!

got a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now

So they run 1/2 size big, then?
correct

I don't mean to be that guy, but if you're normally a 10, but had to size up to a 10.5, the shoes run a half size small.

Carry on.

Yeah I don't know how you went up a size. I found they fit big, my regular size was too big for me.
sorry pals, was zorched. i went up a half size cuz the toe was too narrow for myself & wanted some wiggle room

here are the insoles:
(https://s3.postimg.org/yk30islpr/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/yk30islpr/)

(https://s3.postimg.org/izvms9blb/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/izvms9blb/)
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: yatallfreak on August 16, 2016, 05:02:28 PM
^first time I've seen the insoles and it definitely confirms that I'm gonna get a pair once my skateshop gets them in
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on August 16, 2016, 09:15:43 PM
Do they feel like Ultracush HD insoles (pre-foam bullshit)?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on August 16, 2016, 09:29:16 PM
I was at the mall this afternoon, walked in to zumiez to check these out. Started pulling out the insole, ignoring the guy asking if I needed a size. It felt like it was almost a gel insole, super squishy. I would be interested if they had more suede options in that mid model.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: j....soy..... on August 16, 2016, 11:06:58 PM
It's a weird reference point but after skating a bunch of Huf classics hi's....canvas was more durable.....just was weirder to break I'm....
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Main on August 17, 2016, 12:40:22 AM
They look like the crappier insoles Vans snuck into some of their models while still putting the same "ultracush HD" label on them. I remember the Chukka Low and Rowley Solo specifically having worse insoles without the gel pad, while the pro line was "lit fam". This was pre foam bs though...
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Jake From State Farm on August 17, 2016, 03:37:01 AM
Those remind me of the insoles that were in Habitat shoes. I'll be taking a look at these tomorrow.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Roisto on August 17, 2016, 07:47:33 AM
Better than Dekline insoles for sure*

(http://i.imgur.com/Hx6E0C3.jpg)

*People were saying that State is just rehashed Dekline.

I ripped those fuckers out right away and put the insoles from my Habitats into the Dekline Tim Tims and they felt a lot better. Still, the Tim Tims were shit shoes durability wise, but alright looking, cheap and with better insoles the fit was nice too.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: art hellman on August 17, 2016, 09:03:24 AM
I was at the mall this afternoon, walked in to zumiez to check these out.

understand the $$$/need to get em in at a high volume store to get the brand moving/on its feet... but it's a bummer that in order to try em on people have to go to a Zumiez instead of their local.  sorta defeats the ol' "core" ethos in a way.

(http://data1.whicdn.com/images/85168643/large.gif)
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on August 17, 2016, 09:15:45 AM
I was at the mall this afternoon, walked in to zumiez to check these out.

understand the $$$/need to get em in at a high volume store to get the brand moving/on its feet... but it's a bummer that in order to try em on people have to go to a Zumiez instead of their local.  sorta defeats the ol' "core" ethos in a way.

(http://data1.whicdn.com/images/85168643/large.gif)

I know Atlas has them, but I was at Chipotle for lunch, lurking slap, decided to check it out. Even being in a zumiez, I don't think they're going to do well and will be on the sale rack in no time. They just don't have a chance on that wall against Nike and Adidas. Even lakai and emerica didn't look like they were doing well, only one or two models on the shelf. State had 3...
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: art hellman on August 17, 2016, 09:39:43 AM
I was at the mall this afternoon, walked in to zumiez to check these out.

understand the $$$/need to get em in at a high volume store to get the brand moving/on its feet... but it's a bummer that in order to try em on people have to go to a Zumiez instead of their local.¬  sorta defeats the ol' "core" ethos in a way.

(http://data1.whicdn.com/images/85168643/large.gif)

I know Atlas has them, but I was at Chipotle for lunch, lurking slap, decided to check it out. Even being in a zumiez, I don't think they're going to do well and will be on the sale rack in no time. They just don't have a chance on that wall against Nike and Adidas. Even lakai and emerica didn't look like they were doing well, only one or two models on the shelf. State had 3...

yeah, I wasn't trying to rag on you at all...was making a comment re: the quagmire of a skater-owned brand having to sell to corpo mall shops just to make it.  yet, yeah, I totally agree that they are not a shoe that any of the mall/swag kids are going to gravitate towards anyways. 
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on August 17, 2016, 09:49:37 AM
I was at the mall this afternoon, walked in to zumiez to check these out.

understand the $$$/need to get em in at a high volume store to get the brand moving/on its feet... but it's a bummer that in order to try em on people have to go to a Zumiez instead of their local.�  sorta defeats the ol' "core" ethos in a way.

(http://data1.whicdn.com/images/85168643/large.gif)

I know Atlas has them, but I was at Chipotle for lunch, lurking slap, decided to check it out. Even being in a zumiez, I don't think they're going to do well and will be on the sale rack in no time. They just don't have a chance on that wall against Nike and Adidas. Even lakai and emerica didn't look like they were doing well, only one or two models on the shelf. State had 3...

yeah, I wasn't trying to rag on you at all...was making a comment re: the quagmire of a skater-owned brand having to sell to corpo mall shops just to make it.  yet, yeah, I totally agree that they are not a shoe that any of the mall/swag kids are going to gravitate towards anyways. 

I know, I just wanted everyone to know I was enjoying my burrito bowl.

Honestly, the blue Elgins are the only ones I like, and I just got the blue Flacos, so by the time I burn through the 6 pairs of Lakais in my closet, State might be on the sale rack.

Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: art hellman on August 17, 2016, 10:06:29 AM
I was at the mall this afternoon, walked in to zumiez to check these out.

understand the $$$/need to get em in at a high volume store to get the brand moving/on its feet... but it's a bummer that in order to try em on people have to go to a Zumiez instead of their local.ÔŅŬ  sorta defeats the ol' "core" ethos in a way.

(http://data1.whicdn.com/images/85168643/large.gif)

I know Atlas has them, but I was at Chipotle for lunch, lurking slap, decided to check it out. Even being in a zumiez, I don't think they're going to do well and will be on the sale rack in no time. They just don't have a chance on that wall against Nike and Adidas. Even lakai and emerica didn't look like they were doing well, only one or two models on the shelf. State had 3...

yeah, I wasn't trying to rag on you at all...was making a comment re: the quagmire of a skater-owned brand having to sell to corpo mall shops just to make it.¬  yet, yeah, I totally agree that they are not a shoe that any of the mall/swag kids are going to gravitate towards anyways.¬ 

I know, I just wanted everyone to know I was enjoying my burrito bowl.

Honestly, the blue Elgins are the only ones I like, and I just got the blue Flacos, so by the time I burn through the 6 pairs of Lakais in my closet, State might be on the sale rack.



lemme know how you like those Flacos...been interested in those.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: bbk on August 17, 2016, 10:55:51 AM


lemme know how you like those Flacos...been interested in those.
They're great, but bring extra laces and/or glue them, they rip in about 20 minutes!
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on August 17, 2016, 02:21:38 PM
got a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now

Could you post a photo of the insoles? It's the only thing holding me back from trying a pair. I feel like I've gotten spoiled with the adi-prene insoles in the superstars.
unless someone beats me to it, i gotchu when i get outta work!

got a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now

So they run 1/2 size big, then?
correct

I don't mean to be that guy, but if you're normally a 10, but had to size up to a 10.5, the shoes run a half size small.

Carry on.

Yeah I don't know how you went up a size. I found they fit big, my regular size was too big for me.
sorry pals, was zorched. i went up a half size cuz the toe was too narrow for myself & wanted some wiggle room

here are the insoles:
(https://s3.postimg.org/yk30islpr/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/yk30islpr/)

(https://s3.postimg.org/izvms9blb/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/izvms9blb/)

Thank you! Those insoles are much more substantial then I expected. Ill be trying a pair now too once my shop gets them in.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Casey Jones on August 17, 2016, 03:33:49 PM
Better than Dekline insoles for sure*

(http://i.imgur.com/Hx6E0C3.jpg)

*People were saying that State is just rehashed Dekline.

I ripped those fuckers out right away and put the insoles from my Habitats into the Dekline Tim Tims and they felt a lot better. Still, the Tim Tims were shit shoes durability wise, but alright looking, cheap and with better insoles the fit was nice too.

I had a few pairs of Tim Tims and they actually lasted me quite awhile. I did shoe goo a little bit at the ollie point though which kept em going. I dig thin soles. it makes me feel like I have more control. With thicker soles like adidas or something I just feel paralyzed.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Roisto on August 17, 2016, 09:30:06 PM

I had a few pairs of Tim Tims and they actually lasted me quite awhile. I did shoe goo a little bit at the ollie point though which kept em going. I dig thin soles. it makes me feel like I have more control. With thicker soles like adidas or something I just feel paralyzed.

Depends on the shoe for me. In the Tim Tims those soles were an absolute joke IMO. Also made the shoes loose as fuck. With proper insoles the fit is great. I got the synthetic versions, which didn't bag out at all, which is nice.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Esquivel on August 18, 2016, 02:20:31 AM
Better than Dekline insoles for sure*

(http://i.imgur.com/Hx6E0C3.jpg)

*People were saying that State is just rehashed Dekline.

I ripped those fuckers out right away and put the insoles from my Habitats into the Dekline Tim Tims and they felt a lot better. Still, the Tim Tims were shit shoes durability wise, but alright looking, cheap and with better insoles the fit was nice too.


i had a bunch of dc lynx vulc samples and the insoles were exactly this kind of bs. totally useless, they made my heels ache every time i'd miss a manual. i thought this stuff was only for sample use and that no one would ever include it in actual product.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Roisto on August 18, 2016, 06:42:05 AM

i had a bunch of dc lynx vulc samples and the insoles were exactly this kind of bs. totally useless, they made my heels ache every time i'd miss a manual. i thought this stuff was only for sample use and that no one would ever include it in actual product.

I did buy these from a reputable shop, so I guess this really is what the Tim Tims came with. The insoles are even worse than they look in the pic. It's that most cheapest foam shit which is way too soft and crumbles if you rub it even a bit. Fabric is also 100% shit. I've walked maybe 10 km with these insoles and the fabric is all rubbed and uneven and unpleasant. I guess they were really trying to cut costs.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: The Woodsman on August 19, 2016, 08:38:51 AM
I was at the mall this afternoon, walked in to zumiez to check these out.

understand the $$$/need to get em in at a high volume store to get the brand moving/on its feet... but it's a bummer that in order to try em on people have to go to a Zumiez instead of their local.  sorta defeats the ol' "core" ethos in a way.

(http://data1.whicdn.com/images/85168643/large.gif)

I know Atlas has them, but I was at Chipotle for lunch, lurking slap, decided to check it out. Even being in a zumiez, I don't think they're going to do well and will be on the sale rack in no time. They just don't have a chance on that wall against Nike and Adidas. Even lakai and emerica didn't look like they were doing well, only one or two models on the shelf. State had 3...

I did the exact same thing the other day but they were already on the sale rack.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: concerned_parent on August 22, 2016, 10:09:33 AM
already on sale.

http://www.zumiez.com/state-hudson-black-white-suede-skate-shoes.html (http://www.zumiez.com/state-hudson-black-white-suede-skate-shoes.html)
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Hash Slinging Slasher on August 22, 2016, 11:43:40 AM
why did they think this ever stood a chance? i don't even feel bad. this was just a dumb business decision.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: The Woodsman on August 22, 2016, 05:22:10 PM
already on sale.

http://www.zumiez.com/state-hudson-black-white-suede-skate-shoes.html (http://www.zumiez.com/state-hudson-black-white-suede-skate-shoes.html)

They're marked down, and buy one get one half off. Grab them if you want them.

Where was all the marketing for this? If it wasn't for slap I feel like I would have never heard of these which is probably a big reason why they aren't selling. If I walked into a shop (especially if I was a typical Zumiez customer) and saw a generic shoe by a brand I've never heard of I wouldn't buy it.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Esquivel on August 23, 2016, 05:36:05 AM

i had a bunch of dc lynx vulc samples and the insoles were exactly this kind of bs. totally useless, they made my heels ache every time i'd miss a manual. i thought this stuff was only for sample use and that no one would ever include it in actual product.

I did buy these from a reputable shop, so I guess this really is what the Tim Tims came with. The insoles are even worse than they look in the pic. It's that most cheapest foam shit which is way too soft and crumbles if you rub it even a bit. Fabric is also 100% shit. I've walked maybe 10 km with these insoles and the fabric is all rubbed and uneven and unpleasant. I guess they were really trying to cut costs.

yeah, the dc ones that i came across must be made at the same place. they sound identical with the shitty foam that disintegrates if rubbed. it must be like how some companies print a batch of lighters or key chains with the company logo for advertising purposes, dc and dekline must have done the same with their insoles  :)
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Makaveli on August 23, 2016, 07:03:03 AM
already on sale.

http://www.zumiez.com/state-hudson-black-white-suede-skate-shoes.html (http://www.zumiez.com/state-hudson-black-white-suede-skate-shoes.html)

They're marked down, and buy one get one half off. Grab them if you want them.

Where was all the marketing for this? If it wasn't for slap I feel like I would have never heard of these which is probably a big reason why they aren't selling. If I walked into a shop (especially if I was a typical Zumiez customer) and saw a generic shoe by a brand I've never heard of I wouldn't buy it.

Jenkem did an article. They have ads in multiple mags. I'm sure they don't have much of a marketing budget. Shit, they don't even have a warehouse outside of Kevin Furtado's garage.

Although they sell at Zumiez, it seems like they aren't trying to do anything but provide an alternative to corporate skate shoes and established core brands that've generalized themselves to redundancy.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: billyerlife on August 23, 2016, 03:39:45 PM
I'm wearing the Mercer, bought at 35th North in Seattle (a highly reputable shop responsible for the All City Showdowns across the country). they are the best shoes I have had in a long time. I just came here to rave about them so I haven't read the previous 8 pages, but if they are already going under than that sucks. For the billionth time, fuck skaters who give their money to jock idiots instead of other skaters, and fuck those jock idiots for obvious reasons. (It occurs to me that I could just refer to both parties as jock idiots, but I'll leave it as is for clarity's sake). 
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: billyerlife on August 23, 2016, 03:42:13 PM
Holy shit, I actually REALLY like the Mercer.

It's fucking amazing, got the mid-top, might have finally found a shoe I'll buy more consecutive pairs of then the eS Muska.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Casey Jones on August 28, 2016, 03:48:32 PM
they placed a banner ad on the homepage of slap. like they aren't already getting free advertising here
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: brent on August 28, 2016, 03:55:00 PM
how dare they do such a thing
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Upgrayedd on August 28, 2016, 04:48:01 PM
I really want to like State, but I cant get into any of the shoes yet. Hopefully they catch some steam and get a few more designs, or a cupsole
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: pointandclick on September 06, 2016, 02:33:37 PM
dont know how anyone feels about these ccs tests. but im enjoying them so far.
100 Kickflips (Switch Flip Edition) In The State Salem Shoes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hnxp6nyoKt8#)
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: yourfuckingdad on September 06, 2016, 03:04:24 PM
a slight sale does not mean they're toast.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Turtle Boy on September 07, 2016, 01:22:18 AM
Those Salems look great, Would be cool if it was all suede and no canvas.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: concerned_parent on January 22, 2017, 01:23:42 PM
tried on a pair of the mercer's last night. they felt awesome. didn't have cash with me so i held off but definitely going to scoop up some of these in the very near future.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on January 22, 2017, 03:18:11 PM
Been skating the Salem for a little over a month now and they hold up great. The grip is on point and they have amazing flick
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Spaced Cadet on January 22, 2017, 04:32:36 PM
I finally got around to buying a pair of the Hudsons. I started skating them last week and I love them. I bought a pair of Cons CTAS at the same time as the States just for the hell of it because they were dirt cheap and I've never had a pair besides the original CTS Ox. I have to say I don't understand the appeal of the ctas besides maybe the look. The rubber toe is hard and not actually that rubbery. I could do most of my tricks but even when I got used to them they didn't feel that good.

I tried the State Hudsons on and it was a night and day difference. I could suddenly do everything. The grip is really good and really allows for a solid flick. I usually skate vans and really love grippy shoes and these are great. They broke in really fast and are flexible without being too floppy. I am genuinely surprised how good they are. They are miles better than anything Dekline put out. I will definitely be buying another pair of States, maybe the Mercer next. I hope they do well and improve in the marketing dept. because the shoes are on point.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Tracer on January 22, 2017, 05:12:08 PM
Every shoe is sold out on their website, most shops (even Tactics) don't even carry them. Trying to get the Mercer mid is like catching sasquatch in Canada.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: LURKallday on January 22, 2017, 05:25:59 PM
50% off all State Footwear if you use promo code "SLAPPALS" at checkout.

http://www.homebaseskatesupply.com/artist/state (http://www.homebaseskatesupply.com/artist/state)

Fall 2017 | https://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/state_footwear_fall_2017_catalog (https://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/state_footwear_fall_2017_catalog)
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Mr. Kamikazi on January 22, 2017, 06:58:53 PM
I would give the all black high tops a try.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: clamy on January 22, 2017, 09:43:16 PM
Will be buying a pair of Elgins once I run out of Habitats.

Are they true to size?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: j....soy..... on January 22, 2017, 10:16:45 PM
Every shoe is sold out on their website, most shops (even Tactics) don't even carry them. Trying to get the Mercer mid is like catching sasquatch in Canada.

https://www.thedriveshop.ca/collections/shoes (https://www.thedriveshop.ca/collections/shoes)

They had em cheap on zumiez.....
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: McJagger on January 22, 2017, 10:27:56 PM
Every shoe is sold out on their website, most shops (even Tactics) don't even carry them. Trying to get the Mercer mid is like catching sasquatch in Canada.

https://www.thedriveshop.ca/collections/shoes (https://www.thedriveshop.ca/collections/shoes)

They had em cheap on zumiez.....

Visiting that website reminded me that Filament existed.  Give it an hour and I'll forget about them again.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: ajp on January 23, 2017, 04:39:21 AM
I'm hoping for State to hit Australia, but I don't think it is any time soon. I like the simple shoes and name, Kevin seems like a good guy and the team is a great mix.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: concerned_parent on January 23, 2017, 04:39:28 AM
50% off all State Footwear if you use promo code "SLAPPALS" at checkout.

http://www.homebaseskatesupply.com/artist/state (http://www.homebaseskatesupply.com/artist/state)

Fall 2017 | https://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/state_footwear_fall_2017_catalog (https://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/state_footwear_fall_2017_catalog)

damn, when i said near future i didn't think it would be the next day. good looking out man! scooped some of those grey mercers  :D
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Sizzla on January 23, 2017, 07:49:07 AM
Sizzla nah come tah tell ya horse dead an da cow fat, but ah jus mi or dahs I&I tink da Bishop look like ah Airspeed, ya?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Watson on January 23, 2017, 10:15:06 AM
40% off all of our State Footwear in stock. We have two colours of the Elgin, The Hudson, The Mercer, and The Baxley.

http://www.ninetimesskateshop.com/artist/state-footwear (http://www.ninetimesskateshop.com/artist/state-footwear)
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: j....soy..... on January 23, 2017, 12:48:45 PM
There you go Tracer.....don't forget to ask for that free order of crazy bread.....
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: bumpnrun on January 23, 2017, 01:17:14 PM
The zumiez deal is fucked. 2 pairs of Hudsons for $52 and free shipping
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: doomstation55 on January 23, 2017, 03:02:51 PM
I'm a size 11.5-12 depending on the shoe, want to get the mercer but that homebase link only has 11 or 12. Should I go with the 12 or will the 11 work?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Roisto on January 23, 2017, 04:08:48 PM
Damn. You guys in States are getting some great deals on States. So far I've only seen them in two UK shops and no other places in Europe.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on January 23, 2017, 04:11:02 PM
Sizzla nah come tah tell ya horse dead an da cow fat, but ah jus mi or dahs I&I tink da Bishop look like ah Airspeed, ya?
you only rock i-path anyway so it's all good right?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: LURKallday on January 23, 2017, 06:20:36 PM
I'm a size 11.5-12 depending on the shoe, want to get the mercer but that homebase link only has 11 or 12. Should I go with the 12 or will the 11 work?

I wear a size 9.5 in almost everything (except CONS). I'm wearing the "Elgin" in 9.5 and they have quite a bit of wiggle room. I just tried those "Mercers" on in size 9 and they fit pretty snug, but it's super hard to get my foot in them since they're mid-top. I'd recommend the 12's for sure.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: LURKallday on January 23, 2017, 06:21:42 PM
50% off all State Footwear if you use promo code "SLAPPALS" at checkout.

http://www.homebaseskatesupply.com/artist/state (http://www.homebaseskatesupply.com/artist/state)

Fall 2017 | https://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/state_footwear_fall_2017_catalog (https://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/state_footwear_fall_2017_catalog)

damn, when i said near future i didn't think it would be the next day. good looking out man! scooped some of those grey mercers  :D

Thanks! We got them mailed out this morning. Should be arriving by Wednesday.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: LURKallday on January 24, 2017, 06:04:56 PM
http://www.homebaseskatesupply.com/artist/state (http://www.homebaseskatesupply.com/artist/state)

We still have tons of State shoes in stock. 50% off every shoe using promo code "SLAPPALS" at checkout. They're going fast, so grab a pair or two while you still can.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Ineffable Epoch on January 26, 2017, 12:01:49 PM
State sent us the Baxley in Black/white to make a review, and here it is. We filmed the video at Cupula spot, Barcelona, and the rain didn't stop us. The shoes are great in all the aspects. Hope you enjoy it!   ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEm-jwhfvV8
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Berky on February 26, 2017, 05:40:15 PM
I'm highly considering to getting the elgin. Anyone try a pair yet? I wear a size 9.5 in everything else, are the shoes true to size or should I go half size down?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on February 26, 2017, 06:48:38 PM
I'm highly considering to getting the elgin. Anyone try a pair yet? I wear a size 9.5 in everything else, are the shoes true to size or should I go half size down?

True to size. Check out the interviews on ripped laces.

State, although not my cup of tea, is doing it proper as fuck
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: concerned_parent on March 01, 2017, 04:35:47 AM
(https://cdn.daddiesboardshop.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/550x/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/A/Q/AQ2F2CF-2-1.1486343261.jpg)

skating the mercer now and will definitely be going for more state shoes in the future. two thumbs up.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: maxwellkeeper on April 11, 2017, 08:20:48 PM
Just had my first session in some state hudsons. They're fucking great. Took about 30 mins to break in. Ripped through the canvas though. They have some material underneath but I don't know how long thats gonna hold up. Also, they didn't have my size, so I went a half size down & I switched the insoles to some old fallen insoles which are basically like paper and it was a snug fit. So i'm guessing they're true to size.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Bubblegum Tate on April 11, 2017, 08:31:59 PM
State Salem Skate Shoes Wear Test Review - Tactics.com (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD0SIei0ftY#)
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: gig. on April 11, 2017, 11:11:00 PM
Elgins are great. Loved them from the moment I started skating in them. Toe was narrow, fit snug, grip and flexibility were better then some of the big brands that have a lot of dough. Only issue was  it sadly didn't have a lot of support and destroyed my heels and feet after long days of skating. My heels still are busted from skating the shoe so much.  If you got feet that are young, I highly recommended. It was also nice To not be wearing the same shoe as everyone at the spot.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on April 11, 2017, 11:20:41 PM
Just had my first session in some state hudsons. They're fucking great. Took about 30 mins to break in. Ripped through the canvas though. They have some material underneath but I don't know how long thats gonna hold up. Also, they didn't have my size, so I went a half size down & I switched the insoles to some old fallen insoles which are basically like paper and it was a snug fit. So i'm guessing they're true to size.
Nothing you wrote after "They're fucking great" sounded great.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Bubblegum Tate on April 27, 2017, 01:39:52 PM
State Footwear Bishop Skate Shoes Review - Tactics.com (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiAk2jEF_Dg#)
State Footwear Madison Skate Shoes Review - Tactics.com (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJmYXthayz4#)
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Evisoon on April 30, 2017, 04:14:05 PM
Can someone give me a review on the state elgin? just got em for 21 bucks, super stoked
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on April 30, 2017, 07:18:48 PM
Here is one I did a little bit ago


Alright Here goes. First day skating the shoe was Febuary 3rd. Last day i skated the shoe was march 25th.
I skate roughly 3 days a week for about 4-5 hours total each session.
Out of the box
I went .5 size up because i heard these were a bit narrow, the fit was great.
No break in time at all, had a brand new board as well and flip tricks were no probem.
Great board feel and flexability. Grip is on point.
Toe shape is great for kickflips. Probably one of the best flicking shoes i have ever had.
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17800178_1323696124335707_4520831068823286704_n.jpg?oh=7f64be732cbdd7fcca3f17d8f06a148f&oe=599396AA)

After skating them

Grip held up pretty well i even grind my feet into position for flip tricks.
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17799434_1323696144335705_8267138722364598236_n.jpg?oh=35e79b2c5f74065f857e46c361856dc0&oe=595C98E1)

Toe held up great, didnt even break through to the rubber under layer.
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17759757_1323696127669040_4748284154604372635_n.jpg?oh=a17d90b965f76f45fa33d1cd8373c3a2&oe=59951399)

The two seams on the upper connecting to the toe box got a little freyed but no holes or anything.
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17796685_1323696137669039_1981263820403326930_n.jpg?oh=3ea25663442c129d0781461584e6929c&oe=599A769D)

I could honestly still skate these, they are nice and floppy broken in feeling.
Im just ready to get back into some mid tops.


Sorry for killing the Bandwith Tate


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Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Evisoon on April 30, 2017, 07:23:08 PM



I appreciate this so much. Definitely more excited. Thank you so much dude, you made my day

I will also be posting my own review after I skate these for a while :)
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Spike Hawke on May 12, 2017, 01:13:29 AM
Finally managed to pick up a pair in the UK. Mid top Mercer but they are all vulc soles so I wont be skating, pure chiller shoe only. Will post a review of how they wear in about a year or so ::)
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: HeadInLionsMouth on September 23, 2017, 03:35:44 PM
Just wondering if anyone knows if State altered their sizing at all. The first year or so it seemed like some models fit significantly different.

 I just bought a pair of 9.5 Hudsons, which seem to have the narrow width of any other 9.5, but the length of a size 10. They feel fine so far, but it'd be nice if they weren't so snug. I intend to buy a different pair in the near future - Is it worth going a half size up in every model? I don't want to size up for for comfort and end up swimming in them
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: botefdunn on December 05, 2017, 02:56:26 PM
got some elgins, they are a1 basic skate shoe, just wanted to comment on sizing. i am going a half size down, definitely half-size down compared to vans.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on December 05, 2017, 05:17:25 PM
Did state ever drop their cupsole? Think it was called the concord?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on December 05, 2017, 05:25:22 PM
got some elgins, they are a1 basic skate shoe, just wanted to comment on sizing. i am going a half size down, definitely half-size down compared to vans.
their sizing is pretty random though, my Madisons are size 10 (same as my vans sizing) and feel like a 10.5 in length but a 9.5 in width if that makes sense?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Seadramon on December 05, 2017, 05:35:14 PM
Just picked up my pair of Keys today - I'm finding them really stiff. Like, REALLY stiff. Anyone else notice this?

They're going to be in my chiller rotation until they loosen up. The fit is alright: they're a little longer than I'm used to and quite narrow but my feet feel secure. Which is really my biggest concern with slips.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on December 05, 2017, 06:23:42 PM
Just picked up my pair of Keys today - I'm finding them really stiff. Like, REALLY stiff. Anyone else notice this?

They're going to be in my chiller rotation until they loosen up. The fit is alright: they're a little longer than I'm used to and quite narrow but my feet feel secure. Which is really my biggest concern with slips.
they break in nicely, take a while but I think that's because of the rubber underneath the canvas/ suede takes a while to really stretch out. Sizing sounds similar to the Madisons then
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: ungzilla on December 05, 2017, 07:44:17 PM
I acquired some Madison recently. I like em. I replaced the stock insoles with Vans just because I'm more used to how they feel. Were true to size for me, my feet are average width or maybe slightly narrow. Good flick, fast break in, heel stays put. Feel similar to the Lakai Staples. Supposedly they are out of the same factory, which wouldn't surprise me, the fabric part of the shoes and the lining inside were exactly like the Staples I've had.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: botefdunn on December 05, 2017, 07:52:05 PM
got some elgins, they are a1 basic skate shoe, just wanted to comment on sizing. i am going a half size down, definitely half-size down compared to vans.
their sizing is pretty random though, my Madisons are size 10 (same as my vans sizing) and feel like a 10.5 in length but a 9.5 in width if that makes sense?

sorry wasnt that clear, i was saying the same as you,
 vans 10.5= state 10

dont know about width though, never figured that out
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on December 05, 2017, 08:55:43 PM
got some elgins, they are a1 basic skate shoe, just wanted to comment on sizing. i am going a half size down, definitely half-size down compared to vans.
their sizing is pretty random though, my Madisons are size 10 (same as my vans sizing) and feel like a 10.5 in length but a 9.5 in width if that makes sense?

sorry wasnt that clear, i was saying the same as you,
 vans 10.5= state 10

dont know about width though, never figured that out
all good! I don't know if I could half a size up in them though, I feel like they'd be too long.
Madisons feel like 1/4 size too big + 1/2 size down in width at least for my feet when I go tts.

I acquired some Madison recently. I like em. I replaced the stock insoles with Vans just because I'm more used to how they feel. Were true to size for me, my feet are average width or maybe slightly narrow. Good flick, fast break in, heel stays put. Feel similar to the Lakai Staples. Supposedly they are out of the same factory, which wouldn't surprise me, the fabric part of the shoes and the lining inside were exactly like the Staples I've had.
I originally replaced the insoles but went back to the stock ones because they really are that good. heel lock is indeed nice.
I honestly thought staples would be a bit bulkier? I originally bought my Madisons as a replacement for my rowleys, but they honestly feel more like a tech-ed out era if that makes sense?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: planman on December 06, 2017, 11:28:26 AM
If you're down for slip ons, I know the keys are tts
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Harem on December 29, 2017, 03:42:24 PM
Yet to read the thread, but what's the go with the sizing?

Was about to order The Keys online, but never got around to it, saw them in a shop display, tried them on in Size 11, and I couldn't even get my heel in! They didn't have a Size 12 for me to try on, so unsure what the go is :/
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Rocko on December 29, 2017, 04:34:52 PM
All the States i've had have been true to size for me, but pretty snug on the width. Try a half size up if you have a wider foot
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: rob on December 29, 2017, 04:58:48 PM
I got the Mercer in 9.5 and they fit pretty well, a little room but mostly fitting

I usually get 9.5 Iím everything except chuck Taylorís of course/ctas pro being a size down
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: expired on January 17, 2018, 08:05:03 PM
First time skating states was the other night and had a couple hours in an indoor park (haven't skated since mid November when it snowed) skated the Hudson's and the were great, fit super well and were broken in after wearing them around the house for 2 days prior, can't wait to skate them more and try out the keys I have
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: le88 on January 17, 2018, 08:56:22 PM
i just got the Mint Bishops and they are comfortable and didn't need that much time to break in. But will probably feel like shit soon and then back to Nikes
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: concerned_parent on January 18, 2018, 05:27:18 AM
i ordered the mint salem's and i'm so excited =]
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: silhouette on January 18, 2018, 05:49:18 AM
First time skating states was the other night and had a couple hours in an indoor park (haven't skated since mid November when it snowed) skated the Hudson's and the were great, fit super well and were broken in after wearing them around the house for 2 days prior, can't wait to skate them more and try out the keys I have

I've been skating my current pair of Hudsons for two months now and besides the classic, minor wear and tear on the side, they still feel impeccable and I don't even see any hole starting to form, be it on the sole or the outside of the shoe. Maybe the impact support is going to be the first thing to wear off (which might be easily fixed with insoles). I like it even better than the pair of Madisons I had just before (which I also really liked), I love the colorway I got too (black / gum sole / white laces), it's a really simple shoe which is the only thing I can seem myself skate in nowadays, eventually retiring that pair will bum me out.

I've got Salems, Mercers and another pair of Madisons stocked up that I will progressively sneak into the rotation next ; they all look cool and practical for skating, but maybe a bit more tech (and slightly bulkier) than the Hudsons. Shouldn't be a problem but I would recommend the Hudsons to those who are into basic shoes like I currently seem to be.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Bensquirts on January 18, 2018, 07:10:55 AM
First time skating states was the other night and had a couple hours in an indoor park (haven't skated since mid November when it snowed) skated the Hudson's and the were great, fit super well and were broken in after wearing them around the house for 2 days prior, can't wait to skate them more and try out the keys I have

I've been skating my current pair of Hudsons for two months now and besides the classic, minor wear and tear on the side, they still feel impeccable and I don't even see any hole starting to form, be it on the sole or the outside of the shoe. Maybe the impact support is going to be the first thing to wear off (which might be easily fixed with insoles). I like it even better than the pair of Madisons I had just before (which I also really liked), I love the colorway I got too (black / gum sole / white laces), it's a really simple shoe which is the only thing I can seem myself skate in nowadays, eventually retiring that pair will bum me out.

I've got Salems, Mercers and another pair of Madisons stocked up that I will progressively sneak into the rotation next ; they all look cool and practical for skating, but maybe a bit more tech (and slightly bulkier) than the Hudsons. Shouldn't be a problem but I would recommend the Hudsons to those who are into basic shoes like I currently seem to be.

The Hudson are one of my favorite shoes out right now. One of the best stock insoles around.
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Post by: Firebert on January 18, 2018, 12:58:02 PM
At first, I didn't like how stiff the slip-ons were, now I appreciate how stable they've stayed. Keep up the good work, State. This is what 88 and Vox were supposed to be; basic, durable, plain skate shoes.
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Post by: Rocko on January 18, 2018, 02:10:56 PM
First time skating states was the other night and had a couple hours in an indoor park (haven't skated since mid November when it snowed) skated the Hudson's and the were great, fit super well and were broken in after wearing them around the house for 2 days prior, can't wait to skate them more and try out the keys I have

I've been skating my current pair of Hudsons for two months now and besides the classic, minor wear and tear on the side, they still feel impeccable and I don't even see any hole starting to form, be it on the sole or the outside of the shoe. Maybe the impact support is going to be the first thing to wear off (which might be easily fixed with insoles). I like it even better than the pair of Madisons I had just before (which I also really liked), I love the colorway I got too (black / gum sole / white laces), it's a really simple shoe which is the only thing I can seem myself skate in nowadays, eventually retiring that pair will bum me out.

I've got Salems, Mercers and another pair of Madisons stocked up that I will progressively sneak into the rotation next ; they all look cool and practical for skating, but maybe a bit more tech (and slightly bulkier) than the Hudsons. Shouldn't be a problem but I would recommend the Hudsons to those who are into basic shoes like I currently seem to be.

The Hudson are one of my favorite shoes out right now. One of the best stock insoles around.

I like the State stock insoles a lot too. Better than ultracush and zoom air whatever imo
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Post by: jpmulls on January 18, 2018, 10:03:56 PM
Do you think the Keys would work well for a skinny foot?
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Post by: ChuckRamone on January 18, 2018, 10:59:15 PM
this is my current favorite brand of skate shoes. more durable than vans and I like the way the soles grip. and they look nice.
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Post by: clamy on January 19, 2018, 01:01:15 AM
I wear a 10 for Vans slip ons, what size should I go with for the State slip ons?
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Post by: Seadramon on January 19, 2018, 06:08:02 AM
Do you think the Keys would work well for a skinny foot?

definitely.
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Post by: Rick Howards Root Beer on January 19, 2018, 12:24:40 PM
I wear a 10 for Vans slip ons, what size should I go with for the State slip ons?

im a 10.5 in vans and went the same in the keys. they fit the same
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Post by: botefdunn on January 20, 2018, 08:13:48 PM
just killing off my first pair of elgin's, very basic looking but pound for pound best quality shoe i have skated, no lie. suede is great quality, stitching doesn't rip, broke in immediately but retaining its shape to the very end, insole still not blown out and most importantly, reinforced toe is genius, first shoe i havent gone through the sole before the sidewall. A++

oh, and inexpensive
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Post by: Tim on January 21, 2018, 10:14:32 AM
I have a pair of the Keys in cream suede as my next pair of shoes, they feel very comfortable and I'm looking forward to skating them
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Post by: LURKallday on January 21, 2018, 12:42:40 PM
We have these for 50% off with $10 flat fee UPS ground shipping at my shop. If you want a pair, e-mail [email protected] and we'll take it from there.

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Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on January 21, 2018, 09:22:55 PM
more durable than vans and I like the way the soles grip. and they look nice.
if I had to nitpick I'd say I hate how much little pebbles get stuck in the sole though :(
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Post by: Roisto on January 22, 2018, 03:27:28 AM
more durable than vans and I like the way the soles grip. and they look nice.
if I had to nitpick I'd say I hate how much little pebbles get stuck in the sole though :(

Iíve been breaking in my Elgins now by just walking around with them and the amount of stuck pebbles in them is almost as bad as the HUF Dylans. Might have to skate these indoor only. Stuck pebbles fucking up the grip is not good!
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Post by: silhouette on January 22, 2018, 04:25:59 AM
as far as pebbles getting stuck in soles, from my own experience the worst culprit ever has to be the DC Evan Smiths. more than pebbles, those actually collect full-on rocks, seriously do they really expect each and every customer of theirs to reside in Marble City when thinking up soles like this ?

(https://media.dcshoes.com.au/media/catalog/product/cache/image/1000x1000/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/e/v/evan_1.jpg)
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Post by: Roisto on January 22, 2018, 05:20:33 AM
^Was thinking about mentioning those too. 😊Another pair of shoes I think Iíll have to skate indoors only. They feel pretty damn nice otherwise, so itís a shame.

Iím liking these Elgins too even though they are kinda tight and long. Lengthwise I could fit a 10.5 but those are so tight that I had to go with my usual size 11 and even they feel rather tight. I hope State improves the sole and maybe adjust the sizing a bit.
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Post by: Syhr on January 22, 2018, 07:03:12 AM
Really liking the vibe and team so it's kinda concerning seeing them heavily reduced everywhere, hope they're doing okay

Just picked up my first pair, hyped to give them a try
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Post by: jc on January 24, 2018, 10:29:06 PM
At first, I didn't like how stiff the slip-ons were, now I appreciate how stable they've stayed. Keep up the good work, State. This is what 88 and Vox were supposed to be; basic, durable, plain skate shoes.


how's the sizing on the slip-ons? been wanting to order some online but i'm unsure on size. been skating nothing but converse for a while and i'm an 8.5 in them.
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Post by: Roisto on January 24, 2018, 11:16:29 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/PO9aIPa.jpg?1)

(https://i.imgflip.com/23bgty.jpg)
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Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on January 24, 2018, 11:17:33 PM
yeah ... that!
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Post by: j....soy..... on January 25, 2018, 05:15:52 PM
Go skate a Huf Classic....
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Post by: Mr. Kamikazi on January 29, 2018, 03:40:02 PM
Go skate a Huf Classic....

Sarcasm?
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Post by: j....soy..... on January 29, 2018, 07:03:08 PM
The treadless shoe....

I'm skating my salems and I like em...definitely won't blow through the sole....just the toe which is fine.  they aren blowing my socks off but I'd recommend em at a decent price point.  I'm skating the match court RX's which the shoe is better but too much toe cap.....skating regular Blazers next. 
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Post by: Bubblegum Tate on January 29, 2018, 08:41:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6RlOUkMXP0
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Post by: smellsdead on January 31, 2018, 06:05:59 PM
elgins are solid
mercers can suck it
KEYS OPEN DOORS
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Post by: ungzilla on January 31, 2018, 06:22:13 PM
i didn't like the mercers, though they look great... that one lace loop toward the top before the mid part, just like half cabs... too low, rip the lace almost instantly.

dig the madisons though and curious to try the keys and the salems (eyeing those TKF ones).
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Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on March 04, 2018, 05:45:38 PM
did anyone peep Fred Gall rocking some states in their insta stories over the weekend?
if they are hooking him and Matt R up, can we expect some OG I-path inspired kicks in the near future?
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Post by: streetsoup on March 04, 2018, 05:49:08 PM
Have yet to see some of these out in the wild. I don't think any of my friends even know who this company is, but they should. Spreading the word PALs
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Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on March 04, 2018, 06:50:13 PM
Have yet to see some of these out in the wild. I don't think any of my friends even know who this company is, but they should. Spreading the word PALs
They're kinda big(ish) in Japan with underground skate type dudes but they aren't the kind I usually see at my local...
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Post by: FrenchFriedClownFingers on March 04, 2018, 11:07:14 PM
Have yet to see some of these out in the wild. I don't think any of my friends even know who this company is, but they should. Spreading the word PALs

haha i was hawking everyones shoes last night at 28th and b looking to see if they were states. no dice, though i did see lots of orange beanies
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Post by: in love w/ fs shuvs on March 24, 2018, 11:39:53 PM
Managed to snag a pair of the salems x the killing floor for $56 off ccs maybe 1-2 months ago (I forget when exactly). The suede is top notch, I don't think i'd have bought them if they were canvas though. The stock insole seems pretty good but I put in some fp's over it. Only thing that sucks about them is that they come with long laces and the wear in the ollie pad is kind of an eye sore but it's worth it.

Pics: https://imgur.com/a/eDrp4
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: expired on March 25, 2018, 03:00:59 PM
Started skating the Hudson's recently, they're great, except had to shoe goo the side canvas panel after 2 sessions, I'm excited to skate my pair of keys, I haven't skated a slip on in years
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Post by: Xen on March 25, 2018, 03:17:44 PM
Been breaking in my hudsons for about 2 weeks now, no skating just walking a ton in them - looking forward to skating them.
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Post by: Firebert on March 26, 2018, 02:40:47 PM
...they're great, except had to shoe goo the side canvas panel after 2 sessions...
Great skate shoes don't need shoe goo, especially after only 2 sessions
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Post by: homehelpsearch on March 26, 2018, 03:53:30 PM
...they're great, except had to shoe goo the side canvas panel after 2 sessions...
Great skate shoes don't need shoe goo, especially after only 2 sessions

Wrong... The best skate shoe you'll ever skate is canvas with a lil glue.
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Post by: Firebert on March 27, 2018, 08:38:07 AM
Wrong... The best skate shoe you'll ever skate is canvas with a lil glue.
To each their own, I forget some people don't factor in durability when considering what works best - as far as the all suede state's those are pretty bulletproof
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Post by: concerned_parent on March 27, 2018, 11:06:30 AM
Wrong... The best skate shoe you'll ever skate is canvas with a lil glue.
To each their own, I forget some people don't factor in durability when considering what works best - as far as the all suede state's those are pretty bulletproof

never got a hole in either of my salem's
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Post by: expired on March 27, 2018, 08:20:14 PM
...they're great, except had to shoe goo the side canvas panel after 2 sessions...
Great skate shoes don't need shoe goo, especially after only 2 sessions

Yeah when I bought them I thought they were all suede, I should say they're good shoes I really like the way they skate and they fit great and have a great stock sole
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Post by: SneakySecrets on June 13, 2018, 07:26:33 PM
Iím currently skating a pair of Harlems.  They are holding up better than most vans Iíve skated and pretty darn comfortable. 

After about 2 weeks, the stitches on the side suede patch are beginning to break, but major complaint is that the laces ripped within a few hours.  I need to change the laces out almost every time I skate which is a little ridiculous.

Why anyone designs skate shoes with laces that come down low is beyond me.  Itís not like this is a new problem that just cropped up.  Itís like making a water-soluble umbrella. 

What is also perplexing is why I bought shoes with laces that were obviously going to rip in the first place.  For this I have no explanation.

With all that said, Iíd like to try one of their other shoes.  I feel all warm and fuzzy about supporting a company like State which I assume is less soul-devouringly evil than Nike, Adidas, etc.
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Post by: planman on June 13, 2018, 07:48:20 PM
Just put shoe goo on your laces over the eyelets. Boom problem solved.
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Post by: SneakySecrets on June 13, 2018, 08:36:25 PM
Just put shoe goo on your laces over the eyelets. Boom problem solved.

I agree in theory, but I feel like there should be an age limit for shoe goo.  I donít want to look like a middle schooler with that shit slathered on my shoes. Itís my own vanity and human frailty which keeps me shackled in this self-made, no-shoe-goo prison. 

Am I proud to be admitting this?  Of course not.
Is it the unadorned, absolute truth?  Yes it is.
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Post by: planman on June 13, 2018, 10:33:37 PM
Just put shoe goo on your laces over the eyelets. Boom problem solved.

I agree in theory, but I feel like there should be an age limit for shoe goo.  I donít want to look like a middle schooler with that shit slathered on my shoes. Itís my own vanity and human frailty which keeps me shackled in this self-made, no-shoe-goo prison. 

Am I proud to be admitting this?  Of course not.
Is it the unadorned, absolute truth?  Yes it is.
Don't wear your skate shoes when you're not actually skating. Boom problem solved.
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Post by: Silky Johnson on June 14, 2018, 02:38:37 AM
Super glue is less noticable and is just as good on stitching and laces
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Post by: roba on June 14, 2018, 12:54:55 PM
Super glue is less noticable and is just as good on stitching and laces

it's more slippery though, if you put it near the ollie area it would mess you up
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Post by: botefdunn on June 14, 2018, 01:13:16 PM
Super glue is less noticable and is just as good on stitching and laces

This bears repeating: a drop at each eyelet on the outer side is totally invisible, keeps your laces from ripping, and even keeps your shoe snug without having to tie the top too tight.
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Post by: teh canadian suit on June 14, 2018, 06:52:01 PM
Currently skating the bishop and they're really really good, will definitely be grabbing another pair in the future. A little looser on the top of the foot than the keys and hudson I have, so they were pretty perfect right away
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Post by: Silky Johnson on June 14, 2018, 10:12:07 PM
Super glue is less noticable and is just as good on stitching and laces

it's more slippery though, if you put it near the ollie area it would mess you up
Sand it down a bit then? Never thought it was too slippery but I'm not overly obsessive about stuff like that
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Post by: botefdunn on June 14, 2018, 10:44:18 PM
Just got a few more pairs of keys and some elgins. Skated those and bishops. I like the elgins best so far but they all skate well
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Post by: FrenchFriedClownFingers on June 15, 2018, 09:43:00 PM
when compared to the soles on a pair of nike sb, how would these rate? how long until you started getting a hole?
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Post by: botefdunn on June 15, 2018, 11:30:35 PM
when compared to the soles on a pair of nike sb, how would these rate? how long until you started getting a hole?

Thinner/More boardfeel than sb, but sole is reinforced just in the toe and heel so You'll go through the upper before you go through the bottom, for sure. This is something i particularly like, since i usually grind a hole under my big toe.
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Post by: silhouette on June 16, 2018, 04:20:23 AM
when compared to the soles on a pair of nike sb, how would these rate? how long until you started getting a hole?

Thinner/More boardfeel than sb, but sole is reinforced just in the toe and heel so You'll go through the upper before you go through the bottom, for sure. This is something i particularly like, since i usually grind a hole under my big toe.

you'll go through the upper section of the shoes first for sure (which I also like for the same reason as you, I normally get the big toe hole first too), but even then, from my experience, all State models have this construction where there's an extra layer of nearly indestructible fabric on the inside, just underneath the spot on the upper part where you're likely to get the ollie / kickflip hole. I don't think I've ever managed to completely destroy State shoes yet. you just wear them out till they become generally flimsy and start to hurt your feet. on average it takes me about three months of almost daily skateboarding to get to that point, and I do a lot of flip tricks and flatground. it's a really practical skater's shoe which is what I dig about them.

the Elgins are one of my favorite models too, love how simple yet practical those shoes are. I didn't want to retire the pair I had, although it was starting to feel like mere socks on my feet after nearly four months of abuse, comprising a couple of skate trips. eventually I gave it to some kid I saw who was skating in super thrashed shoes, that must have been four months ago and I think he's still skating in them to this day.
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Post by: Bruh Man on June 16, 2018, 04:53:30 AM
Just chiming in to say these old State Mercers have been very good to me, much more solid than any Vans Pro or Classic shoe I've skated in recent years. Even with the canvas side panel, they're holding up really well. The soles are lasting longer too, and it's worth noting I didn't sand the grip on my latest board, a first in many years.

I didn't realize dude gave me super glue gel so the glue job came out whack, but did the job. I had to sand it down for sure, was like a thick layer of hard plastic lol.



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Post by: silhouette on June 16, 2018, 01:45:33 PM
Just chiming in to say these old State Mercers have been very good to me, much more solid than any Vans Pro or Classic shoe I've skated in recent years. Even with the canvas side panel, they're holding up really well. The soles are lasting longer too, and it's worth noting I didn't sand the grip on my latest board, a first in many years.

I didn't realize dude gave me super glue gel so the glue job came out whack, but did the job. I had to sand it down for sure, was like a thick layer of hard plastic lol.

ha, the State Halfcabs. had a pair of Mercers for a while just before the Albanys I'm skating right now and they actually got me hooked on skating in mid tops again. super comfy despite looking like tanks out of the box, I was surprised with how great the board feel was. would have loved to skate them for longer, after two months I inadvertently ruined them by exploring the flooded mines of Paris in them, but they could have easily hold up for twice as long. no sign of a hole forming anywhere, although it was starting to rip at the seams.
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Post by: roba on June 16, 2018, 03:16:55 PM
Super glue is less noticable and is just as good on stitching and laces

it's more slippery though, if you put it near the ollie area it would mess you up
Sand it down a bit then? Never thought it was too slippery but I'm not overly obsessive about stuff like that

it's always messed with my kickflips, my flick is kinda weird and if i put superglue in the area i flick with i can't even do half a flip
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Post by: Jud Nestorkins on June 17, 2018, 07:20:02 AM
I'd love to try a pair but they don't make cupsoles.
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Post by: Makaveli on June 17, 2018, 10:15:40 AM
Are they still the most insanely stiff shoes in the game? I want to support, but every pair I've had have been stupid stiff, never broke in.
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Post by: SneakySecrets on June 17, 2018, 01:47:37 PM
when compared to the soles on a pair of nike sb, how would these rate? how long until you started getting a hole?

Thinner/More boardfeel than sb, but sole is reinforced just in the toe and heel so You'll go through the upper before you go through the bottom, for sure. This is something i particularly like, since i usually grind a hole under my big toe.

Dude youíre blowing it so hard.  Just put super glue where that hole in the sole starts.  What kind of retard doesnít know this?  You probably just skate on tony hawk 2 on dreamcast
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Post by: clintendo on June 18, 2018, 04:16:08 AM
Would back State a lot harder if it weren't so hard to get a set in Australia
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Post by: silhouette on June 18, 2018, 04:29:56 AM
Are they still the most insanely stiff shoes in the game? I want to support, but every pair I've had have been stupid stiff, never broke in.

my experience with them is the polar opposite, literally every model I've tried so far I've been able to skate in straight out of the box. which models have you been trying? just being curious
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Post by: botefdunn on June 19, 2018, 10:35:55 PM

Dude youíre blowing it so hard.  Just put super glue where that hole in the sole starts.  What kind of retard doesnít know this?  You probably just skate on tony hawk 2 on dreamcast

Never heard of it.

Also curious which ones were stiff, i've skated about 5 pairs so far and they break in quick, i usually just twist them a bunch before putting them on, crack em like a glow stick.
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Post by: Paco Supreme on June 19, 2018, 10:38:40 PM
Would back State a lot harder if it weren't so hard to get a set in Australia

Theyre a new-ish company, im sure they just need a bit to find a distro out here

Edit: Looks like they have some deal with Street Machine

https://streetmachineskate.com/blogs/news/state-footwear-exclusively-hits-street-machine-stores
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Post by: Bruh Man on June 20, 2018, 06:40:02 PM
Yeah my pair is far from stiff! They're kinda perfect actually lol.
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Post by: skatefarm on June 21, 2018, 07:37:37 AM
Best shoes I've skated in years for sure.

Now I need to try and find them in Europe. Anyone know of any distro's in Holland/Belgium/Germany doing them?

Literally all I've been doing is singing their praises every time someone asks me what shoes I'm wearing.

So worth supporting.
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Post by: silhouette on June 23, 2018, 05:38:46 PM
Best shoes I've skated in years for sure.

Now I need to try and find them in Europe. Anyone know of any distro's in Holland/Belgium/Germany doing them?

Literally all I've been doing is singing their praises every time someone asks me what shoes I'm wearing.

So worth supporting.

their current distro for all of Europe I believe is Shiner Dist, but as soon as next year State is supposed to start working with one independent distro for each individual country in Europe, should make it a lot easier to find the shoes hopefully!
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Post by: somedudefromnj on June 24, 2018, 11:26:22 AM
got a pair and couldnt even get my foot in the shoe. do they have shoes for dudes with fat feet?
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Post by: clintendo on June 25, 2018, 03:41:33 AM
If anyone can point me in the right direction as to how to get a hold of these in Australia without having to ship internationally, it would be greatly appreciated, shit even an email contact to a distro in US so I can get the ball rolling over here!
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Post by: timmytwohands on June 25, 2018, 04:10:51 AM
Get them from hyperride in NZ they ship to Aussie and are cheap too. Grouse mate.
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Post by: clintendo on June 25, 2018, 04:53:41 AM
Cheers Timmy & Paco!
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Post by: nopes on June 25, 2018, 10:33:30 AM
got a pair and couldnt even get my foot in the shoe. do they have shoes for dudes with fat feet?

damn how fat are your feet? mine are on the wide side but i fit fine in keys and theyve gotten kinda loose after the break in period.

i still love them so much.
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Post by: Xen on June 25, 2018, 10:49:43 AM
I'm really enjoying my State Hudsons, was going to ditch them once I picked up a couple of pairs of DC Smith mids on sale but ended up really liking them (and for $17 they were a steal!).
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Post by: somedudefromnj on June 25, 2018, 02:07:52 PM
got a pair and couldnt even get my foot in the shoe. do they have shoes for dudes with fat feet?

damn how fat are your feet? mine are on the wide side but i fit fine in keys and theyve gotten kinda loose after the break in period.

i still love them so much.

I wear 10-10.5 in hufs and haven't really tried any other shoes for fear of fit. I picked up the elgins and they were just not happening. Do they typically fit true to size? They kind of reminded me how the eS edgar shoes were
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Xen on June 25, 2018, 02:12:36 PM
got a pair and couldnt even get my foot in the shoe. do they have shoes for dudes with fat feet?

DC Evan Smith love your fat feet.
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Post by: Roisto on June 25, 2018, 02:25:07 PM
got a pair and couldnt even get my foot in the shoe. do they have shoes for dudes with fat feet?

damn how fat are your feet? mine are on the wide side but i fit fine in keys and theyve gotten kinda loose after the break in period.

i still love them so much.

I wear 10-10.5 in hufs and haven't really tried any other shoes for fear of fit. I picked up the elgins and they were just not happening. Do they typically fit true to size? They kind of reminded me how the eS edgar shoes were

The Elgins are probably the narrowest and shallowest shoes I have. If they were a tad bit roomier and the sole wasn't such a pebble magnet, I'd love them. Really nice looking shoes IMO.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Xen on June 25, 2018, 03:14:22 PM
got a pair and couldnt even get my foot in the shoe. do they have shoes for dudes with fat feet?

damn how fat are your feet? mine are on the wide side but i fit fine in keys and theyve gotten kinda loose after the break in period.

i still love them so much.

I wear 10-10.5 in hufs and haven't really tried any other shoes for fear of fit. I picked up the elgins and they were just not happening. Do they typically fit true to size? They kind of reminded me how the eS edgar shoes were

The Elgins are probably the narrowest and shallowest shoes I have. If they were a tad bit roomier and the sole wasn't such a pebble magnet, I'd love them. Really nice looking shoes IMO.

Across all shoes, during and after each session I'm doing thing (thankfully I'm usually in a park), fastest was is to rub find something flat with a hard edge and slide it up and down the tread. Tedious AF.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: FS-OverKOOK on June 25, 2018, 05:41:11 PM
I have one pair(the half cab knock) and they were very stiff at first but overall a good shoe.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Mr. Kamikazi on June 26, 2018, 07:18:42 PM
There is a pair of Navy canvas Harlems coming out at the end of the summer that look nice. I still have yet to try State but I am always tempted.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: franc on June 28, 2018, 11:01:07 AM
What size should I go for with State if I wear size 11.5 Vans and Emericas? Thanks.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: skatefarm on July 02, 2018, 02:08:26 AM
Best shoes I've skated in years for sure.

Now I need to try and find them in Europe. Anyone know of any distro's in Holland/Belgium/Germany doing them?

Literally all I've been doing is singing their praises every time someone asks me what shoes I'm wearing.

So worth supporting.

their current distro for all of Europe I believe is Shiner Dist, but as soon as next year State is supposed to start working with one independent distro for each individual country in Europe, should make it a lot easier to find the shoes hopefully!

Thanks for the heads up! Hopefully more shops will be carrying them soon!
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: silhouette on July 02, 2018, 10:11:17 AM
What size should I go for with State if I wear size 11.5 Vans and Emericas? Thanks.

I wear a perfect size 9 in all of these. If the sizing ratios between those brands are anything proportional, I'd say get 11.5 States. This thread is full of people with different sized feet saying States fit true to size, so you should be good (unless somebody with 11.5 size feet chimes in and specifically debunks this, somehow).
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Paco Supreme on July 02, 2018, 06:58:13 PM
Just to hype this out a little more, guys who wanna try them in australia, i looked on the hyperride website mentioned above, things are $50ish
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: clintendo on July 04, 2018, 04:07:08 AM
Just to hype this out a little more, guys who wanna try them in australia, i looked on the hyperride website mentioned above, things are $50ish

Just got the word the other day that Lush (same place that owns street machine and distro's NHS in australia) is now distro for State, My local is already on it!!
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: franc on July 05, 2018, 02:59:30 PM
What size should I go for with State if I wear size 11.5 Vans and Emericas? Thanks.

I wear a perfect size 9 in all of these. If the sizing ratios between those brands are anything proportional, I'd say get 11.5 States. This thread is full of people with different sized feet saying States fit true to size, so you should be good (unless somebody with 11.5 size feet chimes in and specifically debunks this, somehow).

Thanks man!
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: bbk on July 08, 2018, 12:32:06 PM
I stumpled on a good deal, got me a pair of bishop, keys, salem and harlem. I'm fuckin stoked!
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Sad Hippo on July 08, 2018, 01:08:40 PM
Has anyone paid full price for these things? I had a pair of keys that I hated because every step made a squeak. I had a pair of canvas somethings that I puked on and had to throw away. Think between those 2 pairs I was out $30.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: nopes on July 08, 2018, 05:12:19 PM
i didnt for the pair of keys i got but i would pay full price for my next pair because i love them.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: botefdunn on July 08, 2018, 09:55:52 PM
What size should I go for with State if I wear size 11.5 Vans and Emericas? Thanks.

I wear a perfect size 9 in all of these. If the sizing ratios between those brands are anything proportional, I'd say get 11.5 States. This thread is full of people with different sized feet saying States fit true to size, so you should be good (unless somebody with 11.5 size feet chimes in and specifically debunks this, somehow).

Thanks man!

Def not trying to be a naysayer, but i am 11.5 in vans and emerica and 11 in state...
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: nopes on July 08, 2018, 10:13:24 PM
What size should I go for with State if I wear size 11.5 Vans and Emericas? Thanks.

I wear a perfect size 9 in all of these. If the sizing ratios between those brands are anything proportional, I'd say get 11.5 States. This thread is full of people with different sized feet saying States fit true to size, so you should be good (unless somebody with 11.5 size feet chimes in and specifically debunks this, somehow).

Thanks man!

Def not trying to be a naysayer, but i am 11.5 in vans and emerica and 11 in state...

i wear a 10.5 in vans and i got the keys in 10.5. I am considering trying a 10 next time i get them just because of how much they broke in.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: nopes on July 23, 2018, 10:45:28 AM
just ordered the Albany Magenta collab. ive been waiting for these to come out forever.

how does the Felton compare to the Keys?
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: silhouette on July 24, 2018, 05:42:18 AM
just ordered the Albany Magenta collab. ive been waiting for these to come out forever.

how does the Felton compare to the Keys?

Never tried any of these so I can't be of any help but I hope you enjoy your Albany's, I got to skate in an early pair of those and they were my favorite shoes in forever, they feel super good to skate in, give me that I-Path feel and last for a really long time (I skated mine to death until they felt like socks around my feet because I couldn't see any hole forming, and I'd rather hurt my feet than retire them which is really stupid but admittedly I'm also pretty lazy and hate new shoes).
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: nopes on July 24, 2018, 12:05:43 PM
you posted about them before and it sold me ever more. i just got an email saying their shipment was delayed for a few weeks and while im bummed at least ive got them ordered while i can.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: tuque on August 03, 2018, 12:54:45 AM
I've been on a hype where I really want to support State (they align pretty well with my philosophy on skating,  support the right people, etc) but I can't fully get past the fact that the majority of the designs kinda look like off-brand sneakers.  Folks on here have vouched for the quality but they still look a bit like a Big 5's skate line or something.  My local should have them soon so I'll get some Keys to check out.   
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on August 03, 2018, 01:33:22 AM
State subtlety tweak their designs enough where they aren't full rip-offs (think homage) and even if they were they're 9 times out of 10 better than the original anyway. Also, you hate HUF? HUF straight plagiarized shoe designs in their earlier years...
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: silhouette on August 03, 2018, 02:02:23 AM
Not going to lie, my Mercers looked so much like Halfcabs everybody I know spontaneously started calling them the State Halfcabs. I kind of like being able to skate in similar shoes all the while supporting something closer to the culture than fucking Vans though.

To me States are your basic skater's skate shoe with all the practical fundamentals totally covered, and I find that they have the accompanying look; they look like something their target demographic would want to skate in, often reminding me of I-Path, all the while giving me flashbacks of some of the best Sole Tech models in terms of comfort and the Vans pro series in terms of durability.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: clamy on August 03, 2018, 03:20:30 AM
Once I'm done with my stash of Vans I'm going to make a conscious effort to support State. The fact they hook up Jon Nguyen is enough for me to support them. Plus the video they put out was a nice treat.

With Castrucci helping out, I hope they do some shoes that are similar to Habitat models.
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: tuque on August 03, 2018, 12:17:52 PM
I'm not really talking about their shoes looking like existing models.  If the point is to make simple,  straight forward vulcanized shoes then there's only so many ways to do it.  There's just something about the shape/lines and even colors on a lot of the models that looks kind of funky. Like Airspeed-ish.  I will say that they tend to look WAY better on foot/in footage than in product shots.  Also wouldn't hurt to make some models (Keys) in all black. Looking forward to seeing them in person and trying them on.   
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: Makaveli on August 10, 2018, 01:49:27 PM
State just released the Magenta colabs, and suddenly, Soy's skating Vans again...
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: clintendo on August 14, 2018, 03:28:41 AM
Been rocking the harlems for a bit now, and I really like them, the soles on these seem to be indestructible, will be getting them again
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: concerned_parent on August 14, 2018, 05:23:15 AM
harlem and harambe aren't too far off from one another as words
Title: Re: State footwear.
Post by: nopes on August 14, 2018, 10:43:40 AM
Iím getting ancie waiting for the magenta Albanyís to get in stock and sent to me. My keys are about done.