Expand QuoteDamn that sounds sick. Hope the shoes aren't just vans/cons clones.Expand QuoteIt definitely sucks to see shoe brands ran by skaters go out of business but it looks like there'll be a new one soon, the newest issue of Transworld says Joe Castrucci and Kevin Furtado from Dekline are starting State footwear and may have Ben Gore, Kevin Coakley, and Christian Maalouf[close][close]
They are really good looking. A few good vulc and cupsole shoes in the first line. They also have Jon Nguyen and Jordan Sanchez
sick another hufcons
I always thought Joe should have made Habitat shoes a completely different brand with a different name and pick up guys from more than just Habitat. I was bitchin' that no one is starting any new skate shoe brands nowadays besides Filament, and these are exactly the type of guys I would want behind a new brand so I'm stoked. Now the shoes just have to not suck.
This was from the Fallen thread too:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BEEnqvUy_3W/?hl=en (https://www.instagram.com/p/BEEnqvUy_3W/?hl=en)
Those look like chucks without the rubber toe cap. So very unoriginal. :-\
Let's hope it's not all shit like that.
I do like my Habitat Kerry Getz shoes. Starting to finally fall apart though.
quality wise.....same as : Huf, Lakai, Vox, Fallen......
http://cargocollective.com/philipvaloisarchive/State-Footwear-Catalog (http://cargocollective.com/philipvaloisarchive/State-Footwear-Catalog)
What do the people who hate on nike and complain about skater owned design/quality wear? I'm legitimately curious.
Dekline 2.0
Dekline 2.0
Holy shit, I actually REALLY like the Mercer.
Expand Quotehttp://cargocollective.com/philipvaloisarchive/State-Footwear-Catalog (http://cargocollective.com/philipvaloisarchive/State-Footwear-Catalog)[close]
damn, r.i.p. state footwear.
But a little strange to be putting out 5 basic vulc models when the industry is trending back towards cupsoles and more tech...
That whole catalog looks almost exactly like Dekline or Habitat's past models which were just rehashes of other company's shoes. Obviously the first run is going to be safe so I won't say its doomed but I hope they branch out.(http://www.styrus.net/shop/images/09vnstnt2bk1.jpg)
The mercer is the best looking shoe and its basically the Habitat Ibex, which is pretty much an Emerica Hsu 1, which some called a half cab rip off. Regardless, I'll probably try a pair when they come out.
(http://www.saltypeaks.com/pi/p16319-Shoe_HabitatIbexIndigo.jpg)
You do realize that just because the Mercer is a vulc mid top doesn't mean that it actually looks like any of those shoes, right?
Well, that was underwelming a best.This. It's really bland, and the way the shoes are pictured, the shadows, the light and everything screams dekline.
Expand Quotequality wise.....same as : Huf, Lakai, Vox, Fallen......[close]
With all due respect, you're nuts if you think Lakai or Huf's quality is the same as Vox or Fallen's. That is just not the case.
they took dekline and made it worse. congrats
team sounds like it isn't crap though. maybe a promo will change minds and get people a little more excited. you guys think there's any tech in them whatsoever?Yeah show me some footy of Christian Maalouf kickflipping over something ridiculous and I might be down to buy a pair
Who's on the team?
Glad to see people are still trying but makes me even more sad about Fallen who often had pretty original designs (I think it's pretty hard to make truly original shoes these days that look good).
I think the lesson that needs to be learned from all these athletic sneaker companies coming in and kicking out the skater owned brands out is that you can't rely solely on skaters to propel your business Skaters are more in the mainstream as ever.
Well, that was underwelming a best. I only like the Salem black/black. The dekline vibe is undeniable, habitat had sicker designs than those. So many canvas shoes on the first run is risky as fuck too.
I was hoping that they came with simple shoes but nice details. They came with simple shoes with no details = borring shoes.
I hope they change something in the next seasons but in the meanwhile, Give me a job, i can do it better (ahah)
Expand QuoteWell, that was underwelming a best. I only like the Salem black/black. The dekline vibe is undeniable, habitat had sicker designs than those. So many canvas shoes on the first run is risky as fuck too.
I was hoping that they came with simple shoes but nice details. They came with simple shoes with no details = borring shoes.
I hope they change something in the next seasons but in the meanwhile, Give me a job, i can do it better (ahah)[close]
This. Having admired your designs on the shoe design thread, I couldn't agree more. State's designs appear halfhearted at best. Good luck to them though. The name and the team have potential.
I second this, get S.K.A.T.A.N on the case, don't forget the little people, and come strong with a vegan Vaporwave inspired colourway for your boy ;)Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWell, that was underwelming a best. I only like the Salem black/black. The dekline vibe is undeniable, habitat had sicker designs than those. So many canvas shoes on the first run is risky as fuck too.
I was hoping that they came with simple shoes but nice details. They came with simple shoes with no details = borring shoes.
I hope they change something in the next seasons but in the meanwhile, Give me a job, i can do it better (ahah)[close]
This. Having admired your designs on the shoe design thread, I couldn't agree more. State's designs appear halfhearted at best. Good luck to them though. The name and the team have potential.[close]
Thanks dude! I think i will design a shoe and send it to them to hear what they think. They could like it.
Sales decline as demand has fallen.
From the ashes of one mediocre shoe company, another rises.
Although the initial catalog looks a tad bland, most of those shoes are certainly wearable and I'm extremely stoked that these dudes are getting hooked up. A huge downfall of companies like Fallen is that they lost touch with what the overall market wanted, both team-wise and shoe-wise. The fact that whoever's behind State knows there's a huge, unheard demographic in skateboarding (those seeking skater-owned AND a "Theories" influence, for lack of a better term) indicates to me that they'll have no problem adapting and evolving as the brand grows.
Also, let's be real, guys, can you think of any initial offering from a shoe brand that was extremely strong? Seems like people are just fishing for reasons to hate.
Expand QuoteAlthough the initial catalog looks a tad bland, most of those shoes are certainly wearable and I'm extremely stoked that these dudes are getting hooked up. A huge downfall of companies like Fallen is that they lost touch with what the overall market wanted, both team-wise and shoe-wise. The fact that whoever's behind State knows there's a huge, unheard demographic in skateboarding (those seeking skater-owned AND a "Theories" influence, for lack of a better term) indicates to me that they'll have no problem adapting and evolving as the brand grows.
Also, let's be real, guys, can you think of any initial offering from a shoe brand that was extremely strong? Seems like people are just fishing for reasons to hate.[close]
Well, this is not exactly a shoe starting from the ground... The persons involved in this have experience from past brands so that's not a excuse to release a bunch of boring shoes that dont bring nothing new to the table. Habitat footwear had a strong first entry... http://www.hookit.com/members/youwillsoon/news/habitat-footwear/ (http://www.hookit.com/members/youwillsoon/news/habitat-footwear/)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAlthough the initial catalog looks a tad bland, most of those shoes are certainly wearable and I'm extremely stoked that these dudes are getting hooked up. A huge downfall of companies like Fallen is that they lost touch with what the overall market wanted, both team-wise and shoe-wise. The fact that whoever's behind State knows there's a huge, unheard demographic in skateboarding (those seeking skater-owned AND a "Theories" influence, for lack of a better term) indicates to me that they'll have no problem adapting and evolving as the brand grows.
Also, let's be real, guys, can you think of any initial offering from a shoe brand that was extremely strong? Seems like people are just fishing for reasons to hate.[close]
Well, this is not exactly a shoe starting from the ground... The persons involved in this have experience from past brands so that's not a excuse to release a bunch of boring shoes that dont bring nothing new to the table. Habitat footwear had a strong first entry... http://www.hookit.com/members/youwillsoon/news/habitat-footwear/ (http://www.hookit.com/members/youwillsoon/news/habitat-footwear/)[close]
A chukka rip off, a half cab rip off, and a dunk rip off, and a hiking/running shoe was a strong first line?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAlthough the initial catalog looks a tad bland, most of those shoes are certainly wearable and I'm extremely stoked that these dudes are getting hooked up. A huge downfall of companies like Fallen is that they lost touch with what the overall market wanted, both team-wise and shoe-wise. The fact that whoever's behind State knows there's a huge, unheard demographic in skateboarding (those seeking skater-owned AND a "Theories" influence, for lack of a better term) indicates to me that they'll have no problem adapting and evolving as the brand grows.
Also, let's be real, guys, can you think of any initial offering from a shoe brand that was extremely strong? Seems like people are just fishing for reasons to hate.[close]
Well, this is not exactly a shoe starting from the ground... The persons involved in this have experience from past brands so that's not a excuse to release a bunch of boring shoes that dont bring nothing new to the table. Habitat footwear had a strong first entry... http://www.hookit.com/members/youwillsoon/news/habitat-footwear/ (http://www.hookit.com/members/youwillsoon/news/habitat-footwear/)[close]
A chukka rip off, a half cab rip off, and a dunk rip off, and a hiking/running shoe was a strong first line?[close]
So do you want them to reinvent the wheel? Every shoe takes inspiration from other shoes and those arent even that blatant rip-offs...
They look like they had some thought into it unlike the State ones that look like some standard shoe silhouettes.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAlthough the initial catalog looks a tad bland, most of those shoes are certainly wearable and I'm extremely stoked that these dudes are getting hooked up. A huge downfall of companies like Fallen is that they lost touch with what the overall market wanted, both team-wise and shoe-wise. The fact that whoever's behind State knows there's a huge, unheard demographic in skateboarding (those seeking skater-owned AND a "Theories" influence, for lack of a better term) indicates to me that they'll have no problem adapting and evolving as the brand grows.
Also, let's be real, guys, can you think of any initial offering from a shoe brand that was extremely strong? Seems like people are just fishing for reasons to hate.[close]
Well, this is not exactly a shoe starting from the ground... The persons involved in this have experience from past brands so that's not a excuse to release a bunch of boring shoes that dont bring nothing new to the table. Habitat footwear had a strong first entry... http://www.hookit.com/members/youwillsoon/news/habitat-footwear/ (http://www.hookit.com/members/youwillsoon/news/habitat-footwear/)[close]
A chukka rip off, a half cab rip off, and a dunk rip off, and a hiking/running shoe was a strong first line?[close]
So do you want them to reinvent the wheel? Every shoe takes inspiration from other shoes and those arent even that blatant rip-offs...
They look like they had some thought into it unlike the State ones that look like some standard shoe silhouettes.[close]
No I didn't want Habitat shoes to reinvent the wheel. I never even wanted Habitat shoes. I agree that it's a less generic offering than State, but I think part of it is that Habitat had a preexisting identity when the shoes came out, so that influenced a lot of things from creativity to market perception. I just find it odd that you're bemoaning State for a lack of creativity in design but then praising Habitat for the same lack of creativity.
Expand QuoteHoly shit, I actually REALLY like the Mercer.[close]
Not to be confused with the Huf Mercer.
So the State catalog is generic and bland, but Habitat can't be expected to reinvent the wheel? ha, okay.
Expand QuoteSo the State catalog is generic and bland, but Habitat can't be expected to reinvent the wheel? ha, okay.[close]
So you want some robot looking shoes?? Skateboarders dont like big changes (aka reinvent the wheel)... You need to work with what you already got and bring something new here and there. Habitat shoes had plenty details that made them not look like every other shoe out there even if they got one or other similar silhouette. Even the sole was not just a herringbone pattern, and actually had some thought into it. They were not just a generic silhouette with a vulc sole like this state catalog. Sometimes i thing you guys are blind.
Expand QuoteSo the State catalog is generic and bland, but Habitat can't be expected to reinvent the wheel? ha, okay.[close]
So you want some robot looking shoes?? Skateboarders dont like big changes (aka reinvent the wheel)... You need to work with what you already got and bring something new here and there. Habitat shoes had plenty details that made them not look like every other shoe out there even if they got one or other similar silhouette. Even the sole was not just a herringbone pattern, and actually had some thought into it. They were not just a generic silhouette with a vulc sole like this state catalog. Sometimes i thing you guys are blind.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSo the State catalog is generic and bland, but Habitat can't be expected to reinvent the wheel? ha, okay.[close]
So you want some robot looking shoes?? Skateboarders dont like big changes (aka reinvent the wheel)... You need to work with what you already got and bring something new here and there. Habitat shoes had plenty details that made them not look like every other shoe out there even if they got one or other similar silhouette. Even the sole was not just a herringbone pattern, and actually had some thought into it. They were not just a generic silhouette with a vulc sole like this state catalog. Sometimes i thing you guys are blind.[close]
In the end skaters didn't dig the Habitat designs enough to keep them in business.
I personally think that most iconic and best selling skate shoes are designwise super simple. If I go to a skatepark near me I will definately see a lot of adi-ease, janoski, cons cts, vans slip on and era. Hell I think the most common cupsole is emerica laced. All of them super simple. Of course there are also some new and more complex looking stuff but those come and go. The simple desings seem to stand the test of time better.
Do you think Koston 3 or westgate runnertoe shove will be around in three years? Not saying they're bad shoes.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAlthough the initial catalog looks a tad bland, most of those shoes are certainly wearable and I'm extremely stoked that these dudes are getting hooked up. A huge downfall of companies like Fallen is that they lost touch with what the overall market wanted, both team-wise and shoe-wise. The fact that whoever's behind State knows there's a huge, unheard demographic in skateboarding (those seeking skater-owned AND a "Theories" influence, for lack of a better term) indicates to me that they'll have no problem adapting and evolving as the brand grows.
Also, let's be real, guys, can you think of any initial offering from a shoe brand that was extremely strong? Seems like people are just fishing for reasons to hate.[close]
Well, this is not exactly a shoe starting from the ground... The persons involved in this have experience from past brands so that's not a excuse to release a bunch of boring shoes that dont bring nothing new to the table. Habitat footwear had a strong first entry... http://www.hookit.com/members/youwillsoon/news/habitat-footwear/ (http://www.hookit.com/members/youwillsoon/news/habitat-footwear/)[close]
A chukka rip off, a half cab rip off, and a dunk rip off, and a hiking/running shoe was a strong first line?[close]
So do you want them to reinvent the wheel? Every shoe takes inspiration from other shoes and those arent even that blatant rip-offs...
They look like they had some thought into it unlike the State ones that look like some standard shoe silhouettes.[close]
No I didn't want Habitat shoes to reinvent the wheel. I never even wanted Habitat shoes. I agree that it's a less generic offering than State, but I think part of it is that Habitat had a preexisting identity when the shoes came out, so that influenced a lot of things from creativity to market perception. I just find it odd that you're bemoaning State for a lack of creativity in design but then praising Habitat for the same lack of creativity.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteSo the State catalog is generic and bland, but Habitat can't be expected to reinvent the wheel? ha, okay.[close]
So you want some robot looking shoes?? Skateboarders dont like big changes (aka reinvent the wheel)... You need to work with what you already got and bring something new here and there. Habitat shoes had plenty details that made them not look like every other shoe out there even if they got one or other similar silhouette. Even the sole was not just a herringbone pattern, and actually had some thought into it. They were not just a generic silhouette with a vulc sole like this state catalog. Sometimes i thing you guys are blind.[close]
In the end skaters didn't dig the Habitat designs enough to keep them in business.
I personally think that most iconic and best selling skate shoes are designwise super simple. If I go to a skatepark near me I will definately see a lot of adi-ease, janoski, cons cts, vans slip on and era. Hell I think the most common cupsole is emerica laced. All of them super simple. Of course there are also some new and more complex looking stuff but those come and go. The simple desings seem to stand the test of time better.
Do you think Koston 3 or westgate runnertoe shove will be around in three years? Not saying they're bad shoes.[close]
People dont bought habitat simply because of their name... It was like element shoes, Nobody wants a deck/shoe company. It feels strange to skate a whatever deck brand and then habitat shoes, call it an OCD i dont know, i dont like it either. That and the limited team. They were cursed from the start in my opinion.
And tech shoes appeal to different niche of people that dont want the same looking shoe and want progress. If they last in the line? I dont know. I do know you need to make things interesting, so why Dekline folded? Because every shoe they had was like every other simple shoe out there, they were bland. Simpler designs stand the test of time if they are authentic. People want authenticy and not straight knock-ofs.
Totally agree on everything. And tech shoes being a niche within skateboarding shoemarket, it would be a risky investment for a new start up to start their line with.
Also I bet every shoe company wants to design a simple, authentic and original skate shoe, it is just extremely hard.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSo the State catalog is generic and bland, but Habitat can't be expected to reinvent the wheel? ha, okay.[close]
So you want some robot looking shoes?? Skateboarders dont like big changes (aka reinvent the wheel)... You need to work with what you already got and bring something new here and there. Habitat shoes had plenty details that made them not look like every other shoe out there even if they got one or other similar silhouette. Even the sole was not just a herringbone pattern, and actually had some thought into it. They were not just a generic silhouette with a vulc sole like this state catalog. Sometimes i thing you guys are blind.[close]
In the end skaters didn't dig the Habitat designs enough to keep them in business.
https://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/state_holiday2016_catalog_issuu (https://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/state_holiday2016_catalog_issuu)
Also I bet every shoe company wants to design a simple, authentic and original skate shoe, it is just extremely hard.
https://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/state_holiday2016_catalog_issuu (https://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/state_holiday2016_catalog_issuu)
From my understanding as someone who manages and buys for a shop that will be carrying State, Castrucci is only involved in the visuals of the company, don't think he will have any of the same influence he had for Habitat. Also I was told Josh Stewart will be involved on the marketing side as far as making videos and stuff, so that should be good.
It's important to keep in mind that of course in the beginning the shoes are going to be simple vulc designs because those shoes are probably easier and cheaper to have produced. We're talking about a very small brand coming into a harsh corporate controlled climate.
Honestly we weren't blown away with the first catalog but decided to carry the brand anyway based on what it represents and the potential it carries. This is what people need to keep in mind. Obviously a smaller shoe brand just starting out isn't gonna come out of the gates making a Suciu ADV type shoe. It's just not possible. Maybe this is the time/brand for all the people to put their money where there mouths are and instead of complaining about the corporate takeover, go out and support a brand that maybe isn't as high quality or fancy as the big boys, but is doing it right.
I'm hopeful for the brand. It's gonna be a tough fight, but at least they're trying.
Expand QuoteFrom my understanding as someone who manages and buys for a shop that will be carrying State, Castrucci is only involved in the visuals of the company, don't think he will have any of the same influence he had for Habitat. Also I was told Josh Stewart will be involved on the marketing side as far as making videos and stuff, so that should be good.
It's important to keep in mind that of course in the beginning the shoes are going to be simple vulc designs because those shoes are probably easier and cheaper to have produced. We're talking about a very small brand coming into a harsh corporate controlled climate.
Honestly we weren't blown away with the first catalog but decided to carry the brand anyway based on what it represents and the potential it carries. This is what people need to keep in mind. Obviously a smaller shoe brand just starting out isn't gonna come out of the gates making a Suciu ADV type shoe. It's just not possible. Maybe this is the time/brand for all the people to put their money where there mouths are and instead of complaining about the corporate takeover, go out and support a brand that maybe isn't as high quality or fancy as the big boys, but is doing it right.
I'm hopeful for the brand. It's gonna be a tough fight, but at least they're trying.[close]
This is moving. With names like Castrucci and Josh Stewart involved, this should be good, given time.
From my understanding as someone who manages and buys for a shop that will be carrying State, Castrucci is only involved in the visuals of the company, don't think he will have any of the same influence he had for Habitat. Also I was told Josh Stewart will be involved on the marketing side as far as making videos and stuff, so that should be good.do you know if they're getting a canadian distributor or is it coming straight from the states?
It's important to keep in mind that of course in the beginning the shoes are going to be simple vulc designs because those shoes are probably easier and cheaper to have produced. We're talking about a very small brand coming into a harsh corporate controlled climate.
Honestly we weren't blown away with the first catalog but decided to carry the brand anyway based on what it represents and the potential it carries. This is what people need to keep in mind. Obviously a smaller shoe brand just starting out isn't gonna come out of the gates making a Suciu ADV type shoe. It's just not possible. Maybe this is the time/brand for all the people to put their money where there mouths are and instead of complaining about the corporate takeover, go out and support a brand that maybe isn't as high quality or fancy as the big boys, but is doing it right.
I'm hopeful for the brand. It's gonna be a tough fight, but at least they're trying.
It's important to keep in mind that of course in the beginning the shoes are going to be simple vulc designs because those shoes are probably easier and cheaper to have produced. We're talking about a very small brand coming into a harsh corporate controlled climate.
do you know if they're getting a canadian distributor or is it coming straight from the states?Expand QuoteFrom my understanding as someone who manages and buys for a shop that will be carrying State, Castrucci is only involved in the visuals of the company, don't think he will have any of the same influence he had for Habitat. Also I was told Josh Stewart will be involved on the marketing side as far as making videos and stuff, so that should be good.
It's important to keep in mind that of course in the beginning the shoes are going to be simple vulc designs because those shoes are probably easier and cheaper to have produced. We're talking about a very small brand coming into a harsh corporate controlled climate.
Honestly we weren't blown away with the first catalog but decided to carry the brand anyway based on what it represents and the potential it carries. This is what people need to keep in mind. Obviously a smaller shoe brand just starting out isn't gonna come out of the gates making a Suciu ADV type shoe. It's just not possible. Maybe this is the time/brand for all the people to put their money where there mouths are and instead of complaining about the corporate takeover, go out and support a brand that maybe isn't as high quality or fancy as the big boys, but is doing it right.
I'm hopeful for the brand. It's gonna be a tough fight, but at least they're trying.[close]
Expand Quotedo you know if they're getting a canadian distributor or is it coming straight from the states?Expand QuoteFrom my understanding as someone who manages and buys for a shop that will be carrying State, Castrucci is only involved in the visuals of the company, don't think he will have any of the same influence he had for Habitat. Also I was told Josh Stewart will be involved on the marketing side as far as making videos and stuff, so that should be good.
It's important to keep in mind that of course in the beginning the shoes are going to be simple vulc designs because those shoes are probably easier and cheaper to have produced. We're talking about a very small brand coming into a harsh corporate controlled climate.
Honestly we weren't blown away with the first catalog but decided to carry the brand anyway based on what it represents and the potential it carries. This is what people need to keep in mind. Obviously a smaller shoe brand just starting out isn't gonna come out of the gates making a Suciu ADV type shoe. It's just not possible. Maybe this is the time/brand for all the people to put their money where there mouths are and instead of complaining about the corporate takeover, go out and support a brand that maybe isn't as high quality or fancy as the big boys, but is doing it right.
I'm hopeful for the brand. It's gonna be a tough fight, but at least they're trying.[close][close]
Ultimate Dist is doing them in Canada because of the Dekline/Tum Yeto connection.
Prices aren't super low on them, but like I was mentioning it seems like a company worth supporting regardless.
And yeah they're definitely going for that smaller brand supporting customer who's into Theories/Polar/Magenta/Welcome, etc, etc.
Expand QuoteExpand Quotedo you know if they're getting a canadian distributor or is it coming straight from the states?Expand QuoteFrom my understanding as someone who manages and buys for a shop that will be carrying State, Castrucci is only involved in the visuals of the company, don't think he will have any of the same influence he had for Habitat. Also I was told Josh Stewart will be involved on the marketing side as far as making videos and stuff, so that should be good.
It's important to keep in mind that of course in the beginning the shoes are going to be simple vulc designs because those shoes are probably easier and cheaper to have produced. We're talking about a very small brand coming into a harsh corporate controlled climate.
Honestly we weren't blown away with the first catalog but decided to carry the brand anyway based on what it represents and the potential it carries. This is what people need to keep in mind. Obviously a smaller shoe brand just starting out isn't gonna come out of the gates making a Suciu ADV type shoe. It's just not possible. Maybe this is the time/brand for all the people to put their money where there mouths are and instead of complaining about the corporate takeover, go out and support a brand that maybe isn't as high quality or fancy as the big boys, but is doing it right.
I'm hopeful for the brand. It's gonna be a tough fight, but at least they're trying.[close][close]
Ultimate Dist is doing them in Canada because of the Dekline/Tum Yeto connection.
Prices aren't super low on them, but like I was mentioning it seems like a company worth supporting regardless.
And yeah they're definitely going for that smaller brand supporting customer who's into Theories/Polar/Magenta/Welcome, etc, etc.[close]
How not super low?
Expand QuoteFrom my understanding as someone who manages and buys for a shop that will be carrying State, Castrucci is only involved in the visuals of the company, don't think he will have any of the same influence he had for Habitat. Also I was told Josh Stewart will be involved on the marketing side as far as making videos and stuff, so that should be good.
It's important to keep in mind that of course in the beginning the shoes are going to be simple vulc designs because those shoes are probably easier and cheaper to have produced. We're talking about a very small brand coming into a harsh corporate controlled climate.
Honestly we weren't blown away with the first catalog but decided to carry the brand anyway based on what it represents and the potential it carries. This is what people need to keep in mind. Obviously a smaller shoe brand just starting out isn't gonna come out of the gates making a Suciu ADV type shoe. It's just not possible. Maybe this is the time/brand for all the people to put their money where there mouths are and instead of complaining about the corporate takeover, go out and support a brand that maybe isn't as high quality or fancy as the big boys, but is doing it right.
I'm hopeful for the brand. It's gonna be a tough fight, but at least they're trying.[close]
This is moving. With names like Castrucci and Josh Stewart involved, this should be good, given time.
Shoes range from $55-70 roughly.
Watson made some great points, consumers demand a lot, for the sake of the industry we should give them a chance to develop.
Expand QuoteShoes range from $55-70 roughly.
Watson made some great points, consumers demand a lot, for the sake of the industry we should give them a chance to develop.[close]
That's not bad then. I was thinking they were going to gouge us with $80 vulcs ala Huf.
At least they made a canvas/suede version for $65
http://www.hufworldwide.com/product-detail/footwear/classic-lo-ess-navy-white (http://www.hufworldwide.com/product-detail/footwear/classic-lo-ess-navy-white)
That's crazy. The dudes running it and their message are great, but those prices are fucking looney tunes. That's like $50 for the shoe and another $50 mandatory donation. I can't support $115 canvas skate shoes.
Expand QuoteThat's crazy. The dudes running it and their message are great, but those prices are fucking looney tunes. That's like $50 for the shoe and another $50 mandatory donation. I can't support $115 canvas skate shoes.[close]
But arent those prices just for Canada?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThat's crazy. The dudes running it and their message are great, but those prices are fucking looney tunes. That's like $50 for the shoe and another $50 mandatory donation. I can't support $115 canvas skate shoes.[close]
But arent those prices just for Canada?[close]
That still puts them in the $70 - $100 range, which you may notice is where durable tech shoes live.
while everyone was scared of the heel...I just want to point out the Adidas Silas SLR was a cupsole* and sold for $65 retail.� An affordable/basic cupsole can/and should be done again.�
* even had a gusseted tongue (which should be standard for shoes and not a "feature")
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThat's crazy. The dudes running it and their message are great, but those prices are fucking looney tunes. That's like $50 for the shoe and another $50 mandatory donation. I can't support $115 canvas skate shoes.[close]
But arent those prices just for Canada?[close]
That still puts them in the $70 - $100 range, which you may notice is where durable tech shoes live.[close]
Well, 144p told in the middle of this page that prices range between $55 and $70.
You guys are aware that on a $60-80 pair of shoes, a small company like state will earn very little (if any) profits for the first 3-5 years. Add the fact that the odds of surviving are very small. There's alot of hands to feed before catching the big bucks, especially when you don't have the big box resources. They're gambling on this one, and it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs)
That being said, their shoes still look like shit... Sorry, it's just a dekline 2.0 for me.
Expand QuoteYou guys are aware that on a $60-80 pair of shoes, a small company like state will earn very little (if any) profits for the first 3-5 years. Add the fact that the odds of surviving are very small. There's alot of hands to feed before catching the big bucks, especially when you don't have the big box resources. They're gambling on this one, and it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs)
That being said, their shoes still look like shit... Sorry, it's just a dekline 2.0 for me.[close]
That paragraph combined with their initial high prices just makes them sound like a charity case I am somehow obligated to support.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteYou guys are aware that on a $60-80 pair of shoes, a small company like state will earn very little (if any) profits for the first 3-5 years. Add the fact that the odds of surviving are very small. There's alot of hands to feed before catching the big bucks, especially when you don't have the big box resources. They're gambling on this one, and it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs)
That being said, their shoes still look like shit... Sorry, it's just a dekline 2.0 for me.[close]
That paragraph combined with their initial high prices just makes them sound like a charity case I am somehow obligated to support.[close]
BUT IT'S SKATER OWNED BRO.
I just love this idea of supporting a brand that tries to sell you a product for all the reasons in existence, from concept to "skater-owned" but the quality of the product itself.Harsh reality but very true.
A guy tried to convince me that i shouldnt buy nike's or adidas because skate industry isnt about the product, is about the feeling and counter-culture. I laughted.
If you dont like the product that a brand is trying to sell, you shouldnt feel bad for not support them, skater owned or not.
Expand QuoteYou guys are aware that on a $60-80 pair of shoes, a small company like state will earn very little (if any) profits for the first 3-5 years. Add the fact that the odds of surviving are very small. There's alot of hands to feed before catching the big bucks, especially when you don't have the big box resources. They're gambling on this one, and it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs)
That being said, their shoes still look like shit... Sorry, it's just a dekline 2.0 for me.[close]
That paragraph combined with their initial high prices just makes them sound like a charity case I am somehow obligated to support.
Import taxes/customs duties add to the cost for Canadians.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteYou guys are aware that on a $60-80 pair of shoes, a small company like state will earn very little (if any) profits for the first 3-5 years. Add the fact that the odds of surviving are very small. There's alot of hands to feed before catching the big bucks, especially when you don't have the big box resources. They're gambling on this one, and it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs)
That being said, their shoes still look like shit... Sorry, it's just a dekline 2.0 for me.[close]
That paragraph combined with their initial high prices just makes them sound like a charity case I am somehow obligated to support.[close]
Totally, the idea of supporting skater owned is to support guys who share the same/similar vision as ours of what skateboarding is.... Why else do we care about who makes the profit ?
You're abandoning your argument with a weak deflection. You don't think it's shitty that you're expected to overpay for some pro-keds simply because the guys making them also skate? Your "core" beliefs are being exploited, ding dong.
But hey, they skate so we owe them.
Expand QuoteYou're abandoning your argument with a weak deflection. You don't think it's shitty that you're expected to overpay for some pro-keds simply because the guys making them also skate? Your "core" beliefs are being exploited, ding dong.
But hey, they skate so we owe them.[close]
The only thing I did was justify the higher price tag on an independent and up and coming small brand. I never showed any signs of being a core guy. FFS, I've stated twice on this thread that they we're shit looking shoes, and more so, I've posted a bunch of busenitz on SLAP. All i said was that it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs).
So, going back to my statement, you do take this shit too seriously and you are over analyzing my quote simply cause that's all you seem to do with your life, trying to get into arguments with people on SLAP.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteYou're abandoning your argument with a weak deflection. You don't think it's shitty that you're expected to overpay for some pro-keds simply because the guys making them also skate? Your "core" beliefs are being exploited, ding dong.
But hey, they skate so we owe them.[close]
The only thing I did was justify the higher price tag on an independent and up and coming small brand. I never showed any signs of being a core guy. FFS, I've stated twice on this thread that they we're shit looking shoes, and more so, I've posted a bunch of busenitz on SLAP. All i said was that it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs).
So, going back to my statement, you do take this shit too seriously and you are over analyzing my quote simply cause that's all you seem to do with your life, trying to get into arguments with people on SLAP.[close]
Hey, don't about worry shit for brains. He's just a surly old fart that's bitter about all the people he grew up skating with turning pro, while the closest thing he got to that was Bobby Puleo fucking his girlfriend.
Not feeling any part of this company. The shoe names are terrible. I give it a year at the most.
I just have a feeling, but I feel like state's gonna grow to something really big!Yep people round here will eat this shit up. Very heavy intro catalog, the Salem looks good
As much as JC has been annoying me with his recent collabs, if JS is involved with this I will definitely buy.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteYou're abandoning your argument with a weak deflection. You don't think it's shitty that you're expected to overpay for some pro-keds simply because the guys making them also skate? Your "core" beliefs are being exploited, ding dong.
But hey, they skate so we owe them.[close]
The only thing I did was justify the higher price tag on an independent and up and coming small brand. I never showed any signs of being a core guy. FFS, I've stated twice on this thread that they we're shit looking shoes, and more so, I've posted a bunch of busenitz on SLAP. All i said was that it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs).
So, going back to my statement, you do take this shit too seriously and you are over analyzing my quote simply cause that's all you seem to do with your life, trying to get into arguments with people on SLAP.[close]
Hey, don't about worry shit for brains. He's just a surly old fart that's bitter about all the people he grew up skating with turning pro, while the closest thing he got to that was Bobby Puleo fucking his girlfriend.[close]
Do you need attention?
You could always get em at Walmart for cheapExpand QuoteAt least they made a canvas/suede version for $65
http://www.hufworldwide.com/product-detail/footwear/classic-lo-ess-navy-white (http://www.hufworldwide.com/product-detail/footwear/classic-lo-ess-navy-white)[close]
plus they're on clearance everywhere i look...you could easily scoop a pair of classics for $30 with 10 minutes of digging.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteYou're abandoning your argument with a weak deflection. You don't think it's shitty that you're expected to overpay for some pro-keds simply because the guys making them also skate? Your "core" beliefs are being exploited, ding dong.
But hey, they skate so we owe them.[close]
The only thing I did was justify the higher price tag on an independent and up and coming small brand. I never showed any signs of being a core guy. FFS, I've stated twice on this thread that they we're shit looking shoes, and more so, I've posted a bunch of busenitz on SLAP. All i said was that it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs).
So, going back to my statement, you do take this shit too seriously and you are over analyzing my quote simply cause that's all you seem to do with your life, trying to get into arguments with people on SLAP.[close]
Hey, don't about worry shit for brains. He's just a surly old fart that's bitter about all the people he grew up skating with turning pro, while the closest thing he got to that was Bobby Puleo fucking his girlfriend.[close]
Do you need attention?[close]
Repeatedly saying I call you out because I want attention says more about your motivation for calling people out. It is, as Julz already stated, all you seem to do with your life.
In the 90's skaters abandoned skate shoes to skate Pumas and adidas ie. At the time non skate shoes.....I don't expect that to happen...
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteYou're abandoning your argument with a weak deflection. You don't think it's shitty that you're expected to overpay for some pro-keds simply because the guys making them also skate? Your "core" beliefs are being exploited, ding dong.
But hey, they skate so we owe them.[close]
The only thing I did was justify the higher price tag on an independent and up and coming small brand. I never showed any signs of being a core guy. FFS, I've stated twice on this thread that they we're shit looking shoes, and more so, I've posted a bunch of busenitz on SLAP. All i said was that it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs).
So, going back to my statement, you do take this shit too seriously and you are over analyzing my quote simply cause that's all you seem to do with your life, trying to get into arguments with people on SLAP.[close]
Hey, don't about worry shit for brains. He's just a surly old fart that's bitter about all the people he grew up skating with turning pro, while the closest thing he got to that was Bobby Puleo fucking his girlfriend.[close]
Do you need attention?[close]
Repeatedly saying I call you out because I want attention says more about your motivation for calling people out. It is, as Julz already stated, all you seem to do with your life.[close]
Be serious. You keep tabs on me. Yes I'm jealous I never walked off a building or went to prison for stealing from my dad, but my ex thought Puleo was some kind of sex offender and he followed her around with his nose up her ass (like you do to me!). You know that because I told you years ago when you brought it up. Update your file.
All I do with my life is work. I know you have "several" "degrees", but a lot of us who work indoors do so on computers. If you put those degrees to use you can sort the time spent on slap part out.
I honestly would not be able to look someone straight in the face, and tell them that the shoes I'm wearing are called state elgins without feeling like a fucking idiot. How do you even pronounce that? L-gin or L-jin? Sounds like some lord of the rings fairy shit.Expand QuoteNot feeling any part of this company. The shoe names are terrible. I give it a year at the most.[close]
This made me laugh and roll my eyes simultaneously. Are we really buying/not buying shoes based on the name a particular model is given?
I'm all for supporting skater owned as long as they offer something durable and supportive, but we don't need State footwear that's for sure. Same old designs with no supportive insoles. Nothing that stands out. I don't see them lasting very long.
how is the sizing, true or big?Expand QuoteI'm all for supporting skater owned as long as they offer something durable and supportive, but we don't need State footwear that's for sure. Same old designs with no supportive insoles. Nothing that stands out. I don't see them lasting very long.[close]
Have you tried them on? I was quite pleased with their insoles. Far better than what Emerica and Lakai put in theirs.
I'm all for supporting skater owned as long as they offer something durable and supportive, but we don't need State footwear that's for sure. Same old designs with no supportive insoles. Nothing that stands out. I don't see them lasting very long.
how is the sizing, true or big?
I honestly would not be able to look someone straight in the face, and tell them that the shoes I'm wearing are called state elgins without feeling like a fucking idiot. How do you even pronounce that? L-gin or L-jin? Sounds like some lord of the rings fairy shit.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteNot feeling any part of this company. The shoe names are terrible. I give it a year at the most.[close]
This made me laugh and roll my eyes simultaneously. Are we really buying/not buying shoes based on the name a particular model is given?[close]
I would never support this company even if they had better names. I quit wearing vulc a while ago. If anyone thought I was on the fence about getting a pair and the name was the main factor in not getting them, that's not the case. As far as questioning my English goes, I had never once seen or heard the word elgin before. Just had to googel it. Looks to be a city in Illinois. Are you from Illinois? If not, what context do you use the word enough for it to be "not uncommon?" Also, it seems to have dual pronunciations according to a couple different online dictionary entries. Sometimes the English language isn't so basic sometimes huh?.Expand QuoteI honestly would not be able to look someone straight in the face, and tell them that the shoes I'm wearing are called state elgins without feeling like a fucking idiot. How do you even pronounce that? L-gin or L-jin? Sounds like some lord of the rings fairy shit.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteNot feeling any part of this company. The shoe names are terrible. I give it a year at the most.[close]
This made me laugh and roll my eyes simultaneously. Are we really buying/not buying shoes based on the name a particular model is given?[close][close]
You're joking right? That has to be the dumbest thing I've heard someone say about not supporting a company. I hope English isn't your first language because Elgin (pronounced "el-jin") is not an uncommon word and it follows some pretty basic rules of the English language.
Expand QuoteI'm all for supporting skater owned as long as they offer something durable and supportive, but we don't need State footwear that's for sure. Same old designs with no supportive insoles. Nothing that stands out. I don't see them lasting very long.[close]
What did you guys expect in the first run?
They were running a promo last month at the launch of the site; sign up, get half off. Well that link was broken forever and they didn't have half sizes. Now they have half sizes and no code. Great.
It is way too early on to really critique this brand. What did you guys expect in the first run?
It's like someone with their PHD in fine art critiquing me in my first day of painting I as a college freshman.
I got these Kevlar laces I'm trying out....so far not bad...
Expand QuoteThey were running a promo last month at the launch of the site; sign up, get half off. Well that link was broken forever and they didn't have half sizes. Now they have half sizes and no code. Great.[close]
All State or any other shoe company has to do is have hidden lace loops. that's it. stop my fucking laces from breaking and you can have all my shoe money.
I just skated a pair and I loved them, slim shoe but great board feel and great grip. The only thing that sucks is there's so much canvas. Even on the suede ones, they have canvas on the sides...but I'm sure on their second run they will fix that
got a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now
got a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now
So they run 1/2 size big, then?
unless someone beats me to it, i gotchu when i get outta work!Expand Quotegot a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now[close]
Could you post a photo of the insoles? It's the only thing holding me back from trying a pair. I feel like I've gotten spoiled with the adi-prene insoles in the superstars.
correctExpand Quotegot a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now[close]
So they run 1/2 size big, then?
correctExpand QuoteExpand Quotegot a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now[close]
So they run 1/2 size big, then?[close]
unless someone beats me to it, i gotchu when i get outta work!Expand QuoteExpand Quotegot a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now[close]
Could you post a photo of the insoles? It's the only thing holding me back from trying a pair. I feel like I've gotten spoiled with the adi-prene insoles in the superstars.[close]correctExpand QuoteExpand Quotegot a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now[close]
So they run 1/2 size big, then?[close]
Expand Quoteunless someone beats me to it, i gotchu when i get outta work!Expand QuoteExpand Quotegot a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now[close]
Could you post a photo of the insoles? It's the only thing holding me back from trying a pair. I feel like I've gotten spoiled with the adi-prene insoles in the superstars.[close]correctExpand QuoteExpand Quotegot a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now[close]
So they run 1/2 size big, then?[close][close]
I don't mean to be that guy, but if you're normally a 10, but had to size up to a 10.5, the shoes run a half size small.
Carry on.
sorry pals, was zorched. i went up a half size cuz the toe was too narrow for myself & wanted some wiggle roomExpand QuoteExpand Quoteunless someone beats me to it, i gotchu when i get outta work!Expand QuoteExpand Quotegot a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now[close]
Could you post a photo of the insoles? It's the only thing holding me back from trying a pair. I feel like I've gotten spoiled with the adi-prene insoles in the superstars.[close]correctExpand QuoteExpand Quotegot a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now[close]
So they run 1/2 size big, then?[close][close]
I don't mean to be that guy, but if you're normally a 10, but had to size up to a 10.5, the shoes run a half size small.
Carry on.[close]
Yeah I don't know how you went up a size. I found they fit big, my regular size was too big for me.
I was at the mall this afternoon, walked in to zumiez to check these out.
Expand QuoteI was at the mall this afternoon, walked in to zumiez to check these out.[close]
understand the $$$/need to get em in at a high volume store to get the brand moving/on its feet... but it's a bummer that in order to try em on people have to go to a Zumiez instead of their local. sorta defeats the ol' "core" ethos in a way.
(http://data1.whicdn.com/images/85168643/large.gif)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI was at the mall this afternoon, walked in to zumiez to check these out.[close]
understand the $$$/need to get em in at a high volume store to get the brand moving/on its feet... but it's a bummer that in order to try em on people have to go to a Zumiez instead of their local. sorta defeats the ol' "core" ethos in a way.
(http://data1.whicdn.com/images/85168643/large.gif)[close]
I know Atlas has them, but I was at Chipotle for lunch, lurking slap, decided to check it out. Even being in a zumiez, I don't think they're going to do well and will be on the sale rack in no time. They just don't have a chance on that wall against Nike and Adidas. Even lakai and emerica didn't look like they were doing well, only one or two models on the shelf. State had 3...
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI was at the mall this afternoon, walked in to zumiez to check these out.[close]
understand the $$$/need to get em in at a high volume store to get the brand moving/on its feet... but it's a bummer that in order to try em on people have to go to a Zumiez instead of their local.� sorta defeats the ol' "core" ethos in a way.
(http://data1.whicdn.com/images/85168643/large.gif)[close]
I know Atlas has them, but I was at Chipotle for lunch, lurking slap, decided to check it out. Even being in a zumiez, I don't think they're going to do well and will be on the sale rack in no time. They just don't have a chance on that wall against Nike and Adidas. Even lakai and emerica didn't look like they were doing well, only one or two models on the shelf. State had 3...[close]
yeah, I wasn't trying to rag on you at all...was making a comment re: the quagmire of a skater-owned brand having to sell to corpo mall shops just to make it. yet, yeah, I totally agree that they are not a shoe that any of the mall/swag kids are going to gravitate towards anyways.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI was at the mall this afternoon, walked in to zumiez to check these out.[close]
understand the $$$/need to get em in at a high volume store to get the brand moving/on its feet... but it's a bummer that in order to try em on people have to go to a Zumiez instead of their local.� sorta defeats the ol' "core" ethos in a way.
(http://data1.whicdn.com/images/85168643/large.gif)[close]
I know Atlas has them, but I was at Chipotle for lunch, lurking slap, decided to check it out. Even being in a zumiez, I don't think they're going to do well and will be on the sale rack in no time. They just don't have a chance on that wall against Nike and Adidas. Even lakai and emerica didn't look like they were doing well, only one or two models on the shelf. State had 3...[close]
yeah, I wasn't trying to rag on you at all...was making a comment re: the quagmire of a skater-owned brand having to sell to corpo mall shops just to make it. yet, yeah, I totally agree that they are not a shoe that any of the mall/swag kids are going to gravitate towards anyways.Â[close]
I know, I just wanted everyone to know I was enjoying my burrito bowl.
Honestly, the blue Elgins are the only ones I like, and I just got the blue Flacos, so by the time I burn through the 6 pairs of Lakais in my closet, State might be on the sale rack.
They're great, but bring extra laces and/or glue them, they rip in about 20 minutes!
lemme know how you like those Flacos...been interested in those.
sorry pals, was zorched. i went up a half size cuz the toe was too narrow for myself & wanted some wiggle roomExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteunless someone beats me to it, i gotchu when i get outta work!Expand QuoteExpand Quotegot a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now[close]
Could you post a photo of the insoles? It's the only thing holding me back from trying a pair. I feel like I've gotten spoiled with the adi-prene insoles in the superstars.[close]correctExpand QuoteExpand Quotegot a pair of the elgins yesterday & went out skating. I'm a 10 & got a 10.5 in these. good feel. i hurt my heel last week & the insole helped but at the end of the day the pain was back. switched em out for the suciu insoles today & so far they're feeling good. snug. I'll switch back to their insoles when my heel gets better but definitely into this pair right now[close]
So they run 1/2 size big, then?[close][close]
I don't mean to be that guy, but if you're normally a 10, but had to size up to a 10.5, the shoes run a half size small.
Carry on.[close]
Yeah I don't know how you went up a size. I found they fit big, my regular size was too big for me.[close]
here are the insoles:
(https://s3.postimg.org/yk30islpr/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/yk30islpr/)
(https://s3.postimg.org/izvms9blb/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/izvms9blb/)
Better than Dekline insoles for sure*
(http://i.imgur.com/Hx6E0C3.jpg)
*People were saying that State is just rehashed Dekline.
I ripped those fuckers out right away and put the insoles from my Habitats into the Dekline Tim Tims and they felt a lot better. Still, the Tim Tims were shit shoes durability wise, but alright looking, cheap and with better insoles the fit was nice too.
I had a few pairs of Tim Tims and they actually lasted me quite awhile. I did shoe goo a little bit at the ollie point though which kept em going. I dig thin soles. it makes me feel like I have more control. With thicker soles like adidas or something I just feel paralyzed.
Better than Dekline insoles for sure*
(http://i.imgur.com/Hx6E0C3.jpg)
*People were saying that State is just rehashed Dekline.
I ripped those fuckers out right away and put the insoles from my Habitats into the Dekline Tim Tims and they felt a lot better. Still, the Tim Tims were shit shoes durability wise, but alright looking, cheap and with better insoles the fit was nice too.
i had a bunch of dc lynx vulc samples and the insoles were exactly this kind of bs. totally useless, they made my heels ache every time i'd miss a manual. i thought this stuff was only for sample use and that no one would ever include it in actual product.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI was at the mall this afternoon, walked in to zumiez to check these out.[close]
understand the $$$/need to get em in at a high volume store to get the brand moving/on its feet... but it's a bummer that in order to try em on people have to go to a Zumiez instead of their local. sorta defeats the ol' "core" ethos in a way.
(http://data1.whicdn.com/images/85168643/large.gif)[close]
I know Atlas has them, but I was at Chipotle for lunch, lurking slap, decided to check it out. Even being in a zumiez, I don't think they're going to do well and will be on the sale rack in no time. They just don't have a chance on that wall against Nike and Adidas. Even lakai and emerica didn't look like they were doing well, only one or two models on the shelf. State had 3...
already on sale.
http://www.zumiez.com/state-hudson-black-white-suede-skate-shoes.html (http://www.zumiez.com/state-hudson-black-white-suede-skate-shoes.html)
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i had a bunch of dc lynx vulc samples and the insoles were exactly this kind of bs. totally useless, they made my heels ache every time i'd miss a manual. i thought this stuff was only for sample use and that no one would ever include it in actual product.[close]
I did buy these from a reputable shop, so I guess this really is what the Tim Tims came with. The insoles are even worse than they look in the pic. It's that most cheapest foam shit which is way too soft and crumbles if you rub it even a bit. Fabric is also 100% shit. I've walked maybe 10 km with these insoles and the fabric is all rubbed and uneven and unpleasant. I guess they were really trying to cut costs.
Expand Quotealready on sale.
http://www.zumiez.com/state-hudson-black-white-suede-skate-shoes.html (http://www.zumiez.com/state-hudson-black-white-suede-skate-shoes.html)[close]
They're marked down, and buy one get one half off. Grab them if you want them.
Where was all the marketing for this? If it wasn't for slap I feel like I would have never heard of these which is probably a big reason why they aren't selling. If I walked into a shop (especially if I was a typical Zumiez customer) and saw a generic shoe by a brand I've never heard of I wouldn't buy it.
Holy shit, I actually REALLY like the Mercer.
Every shoe is sold out on their website, most shops (even Tactics) don't even carry them. Trying to get the Mercer mid is like catching sasquatch in Canada.
Expand QuoteEvery shoe is sold out on their website, most shops (even Tactics) don't even carry them. Trying to get the Mercer mid is like catching sasquatch in Canada.[close]
https://www.thedriveshop.ca/collections/shoes (https://www.thedriveshop.ca/collections/shoes)
They had em cheap on zumiez.....
50% off all State Footwear if you use promo code "SLAPPALS" at checkout.
http://www.homebaseskatesupply.com/artist/state (http://www.homebaseskatesupply.com/artist/state)
Fall 2017 | https://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/state_footwear_fall_2017_catalog (https://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/state_footwear_fall_2017_catalog)
Sizzla nah come tah tell ya horse dead an da cow fat, but ah jus mi or dahs I&I tink da Bishop look like ah Airspeed, ya?you only rock i-path anyway so it's all good right?
I'm a size 11.5-12 depending on the shoe, want to get the mercer but that homebase link only has 11 or 12. Should I go with the 12 or will the 11 work?
Expand Quote50% off all State Footwear if you use promo code "SLAPPALS" at checkout.
http://www.homebaseskatesupply.com/artist/state (http://www.homebaseskatesupply.com/artist/state)
Fall 2017 | https://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/state_footwear_fall_2017_catalog (https://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/state_footwear_fall_2017_catalog)[close]
damn, when i said near future i didn't think it would be the next day. good looking out man! scooped some of those grey mercers :D
I'm highly considering to getting the elgin. Anyone try a pair yet? I wear a size 9.5 in everything else, are the shoes true to size or should I go half size down?
Just had my first session in some state hudsons. They're fucking great. Took about 30 mins to break in. Ripped through the canvas though. They have some material underneath but I don't know how long thats gonna hold up. Also, they didn't have my size, so I went a half size down & I switched the insoles to some old fallen insoles which are basically like paper and it was a snug fit. So i'm guessing they're true to size.Nothing you wrote after "They're fucking great" sounded great.
got some elgins, they are a1 basic skate shoe, just wanted to comment on sizing. i am going a half size down, definitely half-size down compared to vans.their sizing is pretty random though, my Madisons are size 10 (same as my vans sizing) and feel like a 10.5 in length but a 9.5 in width if that makes sense?
Just picked up my pair of Keys today - I'm finding them really stiff. Like, REALLY stiff. Anyone else notice this?they break in nicely, take a while but I think that's because of the rubber underneath the canvas/ suede takes a while to really stretch out. Sizing sounds similar to the Madisons then
They're going to be in my chiller rotation until they loosen up. The fit is alright: they're a little longer than I'm used to and quite narrow but my feet feel secure. Which is really my biggest concern with slips.
their sizing is pretty random though, my Madisons are size 10 (same as my vans sizing) and feel like a 10.5 in length but a 9.5 in width if that makes sense?Expand Quotegot some elgins, they are a1 basic skate shoe, just wanted to comment on sizing. i am going a half size down, definitely half-size down compared to vans.[close]
all good! I don't know if I could half a size up in them though, I feel like they'd be too long.Expand Quotetheir sizing is pretty random though, my Madisons are size 10 (same as my vans sizing) and feel like a 10.5 in length but a 9.5 in width if that makes sense?Expand Quotegot some elgins, they are a1 basic skate shoe, just wanted to comment on sizing. i am going a half size down, definitely half-size down compared to vans.[close][close]
sorry wasnt that clear, i was saying the same as you,
vans 10.5= state 10
dont know about width though, never figured that out
I acquired some Madison recently. I like em. I replaced the stock insoles with Vans just because I'm more used to how they feel. Were true to size for me, my feet are average width or maybe slightly narrow. Good flick, fast break in, heel stays put. Feel similar to the Lakai Staples. Supposedly they are out of the same factory, which wouldn't surprise me, the fabric part of the shoes and the lining inside were exactly like the Staples I've had.I originally replaced the insoles but went back to the stock ones because they really are that good. heel lock is indeed nice.
First time skating states was the other night and had a couple hours in an indoor park (haven't skated since mid November when it snowed) skated the Hudson's and the were great, fit super well and were broken in after wearing them around the house for 2 days prior, can't wait to skate them more and try out the keys I have
Expand QuoteFirst time skating states was the other night and had a couple hours in an indoor park (haven't skated since mid November when it snowed) skated the Hudson's and the were great, fit super well and were broken in after wearing them around the house for 2 days prior, can't wait to skate them more and try out the keys I have[close]
I've been skating my current pair of Hudsons for two months now and besides the classic, minor wear and tear on the side, they still feel impeccable and I don't even see any hole starting to form, be it on the sole or the outside of the shoe. Maybe the impact support is going to be the first thing to wear off (which might be easily fixed with insoles). I like it even better than the pair of Madisons I had just before (which I also really liked), I love the colorway I got too (black / gum sole / white laces), it's a really simple shoe which is the only thing I can seem myself skate in nowadays, eventually retiring that pair will bum me out.
I've got Salems, Mercers and another pair of Madisons stocked up that I will progressively sneak into the rotation next ; they all look cool and practical for skating, but maybe a bit more tech (and slightly bulkier) than the Hudsons. Shouldn't be a problem but I would recommend the Hudsons to those who are into basic shoes like I currently seem to be.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteFirst time skating states was the other night and had a couple hours in an indoor park (haven't skated since mid November when it snowed) skated the Hudson's and the were great, fit super well and were broken in after wearing them around the house for 2 days prior, can't wait to skate them more and try out the keys I have[close]
I've been skating my current pair of Hudsons for two months now and besides the classic, minor wear and tear on the side, they still feel impeccable and I don't even see any hole starting to form, be it on the sole or the outside of the shoe. Maybe the impact support is going to be the first thing to wear off (which might be easily fixed with insoles). I like it even better than the pair of Madisons I had just before (which I also really liked), I love the colorway I got too (black / gum sole / white laces), it's a really simple shoe which is the only thing I can seem myself skate in nowadays, eventually retiring that pair will bum me out.
I've got Salems, Mercers and another pair of Madisons stocked up that I will progressively sneak into the rotation next ; they all look cool and practical for skating, but maybe a bit more tech (and slightly bulkier) than the Hudsons. Shouldn't be a problem but I would recommend the Hudsons to those who are into basic shoes like I currently seem to be.[close]
The Hudson are one of my favorite shoes out right now. One of the best stock insoles around.
Do you think the Keys would work well for a skinny foot?
I wear a 10 for Vans slip ons, what size should I go with for the State slip ons?
more durable than vans and I like the way the soles grip. and they look nice.if I had to nitpick I'd say I hate how much little pebbles get stuck in the sole though :(
if I had to nitpick I'd say I hate how much little pebbles get stuck in the sole though :(Expand Quotemore durable than vans and I like the way the soles grip. and they look nice.[close]
At first, I didn't like how stiff the slip-ons were, now I appreciate how stable they've stayed. Keep up the good work, State. This is what 88 and Vox were supposed to be; basic, durable, plain skate shoes.
Go skate a Huf Classic....
Have yet to see some of these out in the wild. I don't think any of my friends even know who this company is, but they should. Spreading the word PALsThey're kinda big(ish) in Japan with underground skate type dudes but they aren't the kind I usually see at my local...
Have yet to see some of these out in the wild. I don't think any of my friends even know who this company is, but they should. Spreading the word PALs
...they're great, except had to shoe goo the side canvas panel after 2 sessions...Great skate shoes don't need shoe goo, especially after only 2 sessions
Great skate shoes don't need shoe goo, especially after only 2 sessionsExpand Quote...they're great, except had to shoe goo the side canvas panel after 2 sessions...[close]
Wrong... The best skate shoe you'll ever skate is canvas with a lil glue.To each their own, I forget some people don't factor in durability when considering what works best - as far as the all suede state's those are pretty bulletproof
To each their own, I forget some people don't factor in durability when considering what works best - as far as the all suede state's those are pretty bulletproofExpand QuoteWrong... The best skate shoe you'll ever skate is canvas with a lil glue.[close]
Great skate shoes don't need shoe goo, especially after only 2 sessionsExpand Quote...they're great, except had to shoe goo the side canvas panel after 2 sessions...[close]
Just put shoe goo on your laces over the eyelets. Boom problem solved.
Don't wear your skate shoes when you're not actually skating. Boom problem solved.Expand QuoteJust put shoe goo on your laces over the eyelets. Boom problem solved.[close]
I agree in theory, but I feel like there should be an age limit for shoe goo. I don’t want to look like a middle schooler with that shit slathered on my shoes. It’s my own vanity and human frailty which keeps me shackled in this self-made, no-shoe-goo prison.
Am I proud to be admitting this? Of course not.
Is it the unadorned, absolute truth? Yes it is.
Super glue is less noticable and is just as good on stitching and laces
Super glue is less noticable and is just as good on stitching and laces
Sand it down a bit then? Never thought it was too slippery but I'm not overly obsessive about stuff like thatExpand QuoteSuper glue is less noticable and is just as good on stitching and laces[close]
it's more slippery though, if you put it near the ollie area it would mess you up
when compared to the soles on a pair of nike sb, how would these rate? how long until you started getting a hole?
Expand Quotewhen compared to the soles on a pair of nike sb, how would these rate? how long until you started getting a hole?[close]
Thinner/More boardfeel than sb, but sole is reinforced just in the toe and heel so You'll go through the upper before you go through the bottom, for sure. This is something i particularly like, since i usually grind a hole under my big toe.
Just chiming in to say these old State Mercers have been very good to me, much more solid than any Vans Pro or Classic shoe I've skated in recent years. Even with the canvas side panel, they're holding up really well. The soles are lasting longer too, and it's worth noting I didn't sand the grip on my latest board, a first in many years.
I didn't realize dude gave me super glue gel so the glue job came out whack, but did the job. I had to sand it down for sure, was like a thick layer of hard plastic lol.
Sand it down a bit then? Never thought it was too slippery but I'm not overly obsessive about stuff like thatExpand QuoteExpand QuoteSuper glue is less noticable and is just as good on stitching and laces[close]
it's more slippery though, if you put it near the ollie area it would mess you up[close]
Expand Quotewhen compared to the soles on a pair of nike sb, how would these rate? how long until you started getting a hole?[close]
Thinner/More boardfeel than sb, but sole is reinforced just in the toe and heel so You'll go through the upper before you go through the bottom, for sure. This is something i particularly like, since i usually grind a hole under my big toe.
Are they still the most insanely stiff shoes in the game? I want to support, but every pair I've had have been stupid stiff, never broke in.
Dude you’re blowing it so hard. Just put super glue where that hole in the sole starts. What kind of person doesn’t know this? You probably just skate on tony hawk 2 on dreamcast
Would back State a lot harder if it weren't so hard to get a set in Australia
Best shoes I've skated in years for sure.
Now I need to try and find them in Europe. Anyone know of any distro's in Holland/Belgium/Germany doing them?
Literally all I've been doing is singing their praises every time someone asks me what shoes I'm wearing.
So worth supporting.
got a pair and couldnt even get my foot in the shoe. do they have shoes for dudes with fat feet?
Expand Quotegot a pair and couldnt even get my foot in the shoe. do they have shoes for dudes with fat feet?[close]
damn how fat are your feet? mine are on the wide side but i fit fine in keys and theyve gotten kinda loose after the break in period.
i still love them so much.
got a pair and couldnt even get my foot in the shoe. do they have shoes for dudes with fat feet?
Expand QuoteExpand Quotegot a pair and couldnt even get my foot in the shoe. do they have shoes for dudes with fat feet?[close]
damn how fat are your feet? mine are on the wide side but i fit fine in keys and theyve gotten kinda loose after the break in period.
i still love them so much.[close]
I wear 10-10.5 in hufs and haven't really tried any other shoes for fear of fit. I picked up the elgins and they were just not happening. Do they typically fit true to size? They kind of reminded me how the eS edgar shoes were
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotegot a pair and couldnt even get my foot in the shoe. do they have shoes for dudes with fat feet?[close]
damn how fat are your feet? mine are on the wide side but i fit fine in keys and theyve gotten kinda loose after the break in period.
i still love them so much.[close]
I wear 10-10.5 in hufs and haven't really tried any other shoes for fear of fit. I picked up the elgins and they were just not happening. Do they typically fit true to size? They kind of reminded me how the eS edgar shoes were[close]
The Elgins are probably the narrowest and shallowest shoes I have. If they were a tad bit roomier and the sole wasn't such a pebble magnet, I'd love them. Really nice looking shoes IMO.
Expand QuoteBest shoes I've skated in years for sure.
Now I need to try and find them in Europe. Anyone know of any distro's in Holland/Belgium/Germany doing them?
Literally all I've been doing is singing their praises every time someone asks me what shoes I'm wearing.
So worth supporting.[close]
their current distro for all of Europe I believe is Shiner Dist, but as soon as next year State is supposed to start working with one independent distro for each individual country in Europe, should make it a lot easier to find the shoes hopefully!
What size should I go for with State if I wear size 11.5 Vans and Emericas? Thanks.
Just to hype this out a little more, guys who wanna try them in australia, i looked on the hyperride website mentioned above, things are $50ish
Expand QuoteWhat size should I go for with State if I wear size 11.5 Vans and Emericas? Thanks.[close]
I wear a perfect size 9 in all of these. If the sizing ratios between those brands are anything proportional, I'd say get 11.5 States. This thread is full of people with different sized feet saying States fit true to size, so you should be good (unless somebody with 11.5 size feet chimes in and specifically debunks this, somehow).
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I wear a perfect size 9 in all of these. If the sizing ratios between those brands are anything proportional, I'd say get 11.5 States. This thread is full of people with different sized feet saying States fit true to size, so you should be good (unless somebody with 11.5 size feet chimes in and specifically debunks this, somehow).[close]
Thanks man!
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I wear a perfect size 9 in all of these. If the sizing ratios between those brands are anything proportional, I'd say get 11.5 States. This thread is full of people with different sized feet saying States fit true to size, so you should be good (unless somebody with 11.5 size feet chimes in and specifically debunks this, somehow).[close]
Thanks man![close]
Def not trying to be a naysayer, but i am 11.5 in vans and emerica and 11 in state...
just ordered the Albany Magenta collab. ive been waiting for these to come out forever.
how does the Felton compare to the Keys?
Just got those mint keys, first slip on shoe I've had since my ragdoll checkered vans phase in like 2006.
They fit and feel great, I won't be able to skate them too much because these old bones need high tops + ankle brace but I like them.
you're buying your shoes too big.Expand QuoteJust got those mint keys, first slip on shoe I've had since my ragdoll checkered vans phase in like 2006.
They fit and feel great, I won't be able to skate them too much because these old bones need high tops + ankle brace but I like them.[close]
I like my Keys but they don't feel too secure on my feet. I only skated them for one session and my confidence was off since I was afraid they would fly off with a flick.
Kinda want to try the Felton.
Expand Quotejust ordered the Albany Magenta collab. ive been waiting for these to come out forever.
how does the Felton compare to the Keys?[close]
Never tried any of these so I can't be of any help but I hope you enjoy your Albany's, I got to skate in an early pair of those and they were my favorite shoes in forever, they feel super good to skate in, give me that I-Path feel and last for a really long time (I skated mine to death until they felt like socks around my feet because I couldn't see any hole forming, and I'd rather hurt my feet than retire them which is really stupid but admittedly I'm also pretty lazy and hate new shoes).
This, Keys are 100% tts. I've had mine for well over a year and they're still snug on my feet.you're buying your shoes too big.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteJust got those mint keys, first slip on shoe I've had since my ragdoll checkered vans phase in like 2006.
They fit and feel great, I won't be able to skate them too much because these old bones need high tops + ankle brace but I like them.[close]
I like my Keys but they don't feel too secure on my feet. I only skated them for one session and my confidence was off since I was afraid they would fly off with a flick.
Kinda want to try the Felton.[close]
how the tkf collabs fit? big sale on rollersnakes atm for all my uk heads on here, £25 a pair bunch of diff models.TTS
how the tkf collabs fit? big sale on rollersnakes atm for all my uk heads on here, £25 a pair bunch of diff models.
TTSExpand Quotehow the tkf collabs fit? big sale on rollersnakes atm for all my uk heads on here, £25 a pair bunch of diff models.[close]
Expand Quotehow the tkf collabs fit? big sale on rollersnakes atm for all my uk heads on here, £25 a pair bunch of diff models.[close]
I'd get 'em quick. I've heard that the UK Distro isn't doing them anymore, so who knows if we'll see them stocked on these shores again any time soon.
It's could be nonsense, just news I've heard on the grapevine.
True to size.
I just got the feltons and could post pics later but they feel better than the keys imo.
I like the keys but they were always a bit snug on my forefoot. I skated the bishop and the Hudson. The bishop was my fav but I’m actually liking the Felton a lot.
I prefer high tops.What does this have to do with State footwear?
Just got some nike dunks for 54 bucks new.
Adidas high tops are more durable but for some reason nike and adidas arent putting out as many sb high tops these days.
Fucking idiots imo. High tops rule
What does this have to do with State footwear?Expand QuoteI prefer high tops.
Just got some nike dunks for 54 bucks new.
Adidas high tops are more durable but for some reason nike and adidas arent putting out as many sb high tops these days.
Fucking idiots imo. High tops rule[close]
Expand QuoteWhat does this have to do with State footwear?Expand QuoteI prefer high tops.
Just got some nike dunks for 54 bucks new.
Adidas high tops are more durable but for some reason nike and adidas arent putting out as many sb high tops these days.
Fucking idiots imo. High tops rule[close][close]
so go buy some salem's. you'll be stoked.
Expand Quote^those look like sick shoes. but why are all the new State shoes designed with the PU footbed? then you can’t use an insole unless there’s some way of removing it? I have the Harlems but the footbed seems to be unremovable without destroying the shoes. sucks too because I really like their shoes and want to support them but I need to use insoles.[close]
The Harlem insoles come out super easy. I was able to take them out without destroying the shoes or the insoles. I think they're the only shoe from State that has an insole like that. The rest are removable, and the stock insoles seem pretty decent.
I’m having a hard time switching back to vans.
Expand QuoteI’m having a hard time switching back to vans.[close]
I think this tends to happen. I was skating only vans for a long while, then I tried some other brands. I can't skate in Vans at all. They feel like you're wearing moonboots.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI’m having a hard time switching back to vans.[close]
I think this tends to happen. I was skating only vans for a long while, then I tried some other brands. I can't skate in Vans at all. They feel like you're wearing moonboots.[close]
is that because of the weight of them?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI’m having a hard time switching back to vans.[close]
I think this tends to happen. I was skating only vans for a long while, then I tried some other brands. I can't skate in Vans at all. They feel like you're wearing moonboots.[close]
is that because of the weight of them?[close]
I think it's the toe. It's feels so bulky and huge, like on all the models. My brother said the same, he tried a pair of the last model TNTs. He said they felt like he was wearing clownshoes. He ended up just giving them away.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI’m having a hard time switching back to vans.[close]
I think this tends to happen. I was skating only vans for a long while, then I tried some other brands. I can't skate in Vans at all. They feel like you're wearing moonboots.[close]
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is that because of the weight of them?[close]
I think it's the toe. It's feels so bulky and huge, like on all the models. My brother said the same, he tried a pair of the last model TNTs. He said they felt like he was wearing clownshoes. He ended up just giving them away.[close]
you're supposed to go a half-size down on the pro classics. dont skate the pro models lol
Has anyone ordered directly from the site? Are they quick in terms of shipping?
Expand QuoteHas anyone ordered directly from the site? Are they quick in terms of shipping?[close]
i want to know this too, also, do they ship overseas
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI’m having a hard time switching back to vans.[close]
I think this tends to happen. I was skating only vans for a long while, then I tried some other brands. I can't skate in Vans at all. They feel like you're wearing moonboots.[close]
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is that because of the weight of them?[close]
I think it's the toe. It's feels so bulky and huge, like on all the models. My brother said the same, he tried a pair of the last model TNTs. He said they felt like he was wearing clownshoes. He ended up just giving them away.[close]
you're supposed to go a half-size down on the pro classics. dont skate the pro models lol[close]
I meant I had a hard time going back to vans after state because states have more padding/support than vans. And you don’t have to go down a size when going from vans classics to vans pro. That sounds like a just you problem
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI’m having a hard time switching back to vans.[close]
I think this tends to happen. I was skating only vans for a long while, then I tried some other brands. I can't skate in Vans at all. They feel like you're wearing moonboots.[close]
is that because of the weight of them?[close]
I think it's the toe. It's feels so bulky and huge, like on all the models. My brother said the same, he tried a pair of the last model TNTs. He said they felt like he was wearing clownshoes. He ended up just giving them away.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI’m having a hard time switching back to vans.[close]
I think this tends to happen. I was skating only vans for a long while, then I tried some other brands. I can't skate in Vans at all. They feel like you're wearing moonboots.[close]
is that because of the weight of them?[close]
I think it's the toe. It's feels so bulky and huge, like on all the models. My brother said the same, he tried a pair of the last model TNTs. He said they felt like he was wearing clownshoes. He ended up just giving them away.[close]
you're supposed to go a half-size down on the pro classics. dont skate the pro models lol
i finally put my money where my mouth was and ordered some states: tkf salems and some mercers, both in black suede. are these two models true to size? i got them in size 9 and i wear 9s in most shoes - pro vans (but could go 8.5 with some models like halfcabs), blazers, adidas... are they true to size? narrow? wide?
Anybody skate the pacificas yet ?
Probably going to be my next shoe if I don't get another pair of Gilbert Crockett's vans.
Expand QuoteAnybody skate the pacificas yet ?
Probably going to be my next shoe if I don't get another pair of Gilbert Crockett's vans.[close]
I am about to.
I really wish I pulled the trigger on the Killing Floor Salems.
dude, they are all on sale. wow, thanks for this link. would uk 7.5 in states be us 8.5? there's a pair of mercers for 35,- that could fit.
https://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/free_and_liberated_state_fall_2019_
wknd collab coming soon
those mercer lows look like a 2007 dc shoe
https://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/free_and_liberated_state_fall_2019_
wknd collab coming soon
those mercer lows look like a 2007 dc shoe
Expand Quotehttps://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/free_and_liberated_state_fall_2019_
wknd collab coming soon
those mercer lows look like a 2007 dc shoe[close]
Thanks for this. While the Salem really shouldn't be withdrawn, those new Mercer highs look completely similar. I wonder how the difference will be felt, if any
Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/free_and_liberated_state_fall_2019_
wknd collab coming soon
those mercer lows look like a 2007 dc shoe[close]
Thanks for this. While the Salem really shouldn't be withdrawn, those new Mercer highs look completely similar. I wonder how the difference will be felt, if any[close]
think you meant harlem highs. they look pretty cool, but i don't like the fact that they're 90% canvas
I can't say I've ever been 100% satisfied wiith skating a state shoe. They're a not a shoe to skate right out of the box, because you'll destroy the canvas upper before you break in the soles.
But fuck do I just like the Harlem as a clean everyday shoe. I've had a couple of pair and I like em so much that i end up skating them. Hi Pink WKND Harlem are right up my ally.
The Bishops look like the Dekline TimTim
Expand QuoteI can't say I've ever been 100% satisfied wiith skating a state shoe. They're a not a shoe to skate right out of the box, because you'll destroy the canvas upper before you break in the soles.
But fuck do I just like the Harlem as a clean everyday shoe. I've had a couple of pair and I like em so much that i end up skating them. Hi Pink WKND Harlem are right up my ally.
The Bishops look like the Dekline TimTim[close]
have you skated any of the suede models? they’re durable.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI can't say I've ever been 100% satisfied wiith skating a state shoe. They're a not a shoe to skate right out of the box, because you'll destroy the canvas upper before you break in the soles.
But fuck do I just like the Harlem as a clean everyday shoe. I've had a couple of pair and I like em so much that i end up skating them. Hi Pink WKND Harlem are right up my ally.
The Bishops look like the Dekline TimTim[close]
have you skated any of the suede models? they’re durable.[close]
I had all suede Salem highs which were okay. The soles don't do it for me. If I can get Harlem's to last a month they'd be my jam. maybe I'll try that microwave thing next time or just wear them for a month before I skate.
Anyone know how the Bishops fit? Really wanna try a pair.tts, but tight/low on the foot. the toe is long too, I'm pretty sure I could skate them without laces
Anyone know how the Bishops fit? Really wanna try a pair.
didnt dig the mercers at all
anyone skated the albanys? at a toss up between getting another pair of salems (non tkf ones this time) or the albany magenta collab. ive skated salems before and they skated great but the high up lace profile of the albanys is appealing to me as i always snap laces
I’m skating the Albany shoe now and I don’t think I’ve ever been more impressed by a shoe. They’ve lasted me a considerably long time. They’re at the end of their lifespan now and I’m having a hard time switching back to vans.
(...) I hope you enjoy your Albany's, I got to skate in an early pair of those and they were my favorite shoes in forever, they feel super good to skate in, give me that I-Path feel and last for a really long time (...)
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I've been really trying to give the Keys a shot but they've been killing my feet - this is my third attempt to break them in.
I think my feet are just too wide for them :-\
Going to take advantage of the State shoes deals on rollersnakes, but wondered which you guys have found had the widest toe box. I don't need height, just room for my splayed out toes. SB Blazers and CONS are my shoe hell !
Going to take advantage of the State shoes deals on rollersnakes, but wondered which you guys have found had the widest toe box. I don't need height, just room for my splayed out toes. SB Blazers and CONS are my shoe hell !
I've tried most models and have to say that the albany is the best shoe by far. I go half a size down and swap out the insole because the shoes run slim in general - makes a bit more room for my fat foot. Lots of board feel and grip. Agree with the sentiments about not wearing these all day.
I've had a pair of the Harlems in all black for a couple months. Kind of the opposite of what others have said, they are actually very comfortable to walk in all day. I just wear them to work. First pair of States I've had. Have to say the sole has more flex than I usually like, but the insole is fantastic.
I heard they don't have a distributor in Europe anymore, so shops have to order directly to State in US, which adds some costs.
Aren’t the only places to stock them Street machine? They brought them across as far as I know, it’s probably not going well because the kids who shop there just want Nike’s, hence selling off at stupid prices
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There's a shop in Ringwood, Victoria called Ballistix that are selling them for about $50aud
Got la Little late to this thread, how do they fit? Should I go half size bigger than usual?
I found them here for 15 bucks. Probably I'll get 2 pairs. Checking Salem's, Albanys, Keys and Harlems.
Awesome, thank you.Expand QuoteGot la Little late to this thread, how do they fit? Should I go half size bigger than usual?
I found them here for 15 bucks. Probably I'll get 2 pairs. Checking Salem's, Albanys, Keys and Harlems.[close]
From my experiences, true to size.
Anyone tried the Matt Rodriguez shoe yet? They remind me of Austyn's shoe on Habitat. I had so many pairs of those.Going to get them pretty soon.
Has anyone tried FP Gamechangers or any other aftermarket insoles in States? I wanna try some but I have old man feet and I'm scared they won't be supportive enough.
Has anyone tried FP Gamechangers or any other aftermarket insoles in States? I wanna try some but I have old man feet and I'm scared they won't be supportive enough.
Got la Little late to this thread, how do they fit? Should I go half size bigger than usual?
I found them here for 15 bucks. Probably I'll get 2 pairs. Checking Salem's, Albanys, Keys and Harlems.
At the end I ordered some white Albanys Magenta collab. Price is ridiculously cheap, if I like them in thinking about getting keys and Mercer. Crappy thing is that here in Chile the brand is totally unknown and kids all they want are Nikes and the chilean distro is run by a non skater guy who sells fake wknd boards...
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Just arrived. Can't wait to get home and try then and probably order more.
Has anyone tried FP Gamechangers or any other aftermarket insoles in States? I wanna try some but I have old man feet and I'm scared they won't be supportive enough.
At the end I ordered some white Albanys Magenta collab. Price is ridiculously cheap, if I like them in thinking about getting keys and Mercer. Crappy thing is that here in Chile the brand is totally unknown and kids all they want are Nikes and the chilean distro is run by a non skater guy who sells fake wknd boards...
Damn, Adrenalin is a name I haven't heard in ages. If I recall correctly they went out of business like in 2009 I believe. The place was all over the country on it's prime and then they failed spectacularly.Expand QuoteAt the end I ordered some white Albanys Magenta collab. Price is ridiculously cheap, if I like them in thinking about getting keys and Mercer. Crappy thing is that here in Chile the brand is totally unknown and kids all they want are Nikes and the chilean distro is run by a non skater guy who sells fake wknd boards...[close]
I’m surprised Chile even gets State. Growing up “adrenalin” would hold it down there to some extent—are they not in business anymore? Just tangential curiosity
Damn, Adrenalin is a name I haven't heard in ages. If I recall correctly they went out of business like in 2009 I believe. The place was all over the country on it's prime and then they failed spectacularly.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAt the end I ordered some white Albanys Magenta collab. Price is ridiculously cheap, if I like them in thinking about getting keys and Mercer. Crappy thing is that here in Chile the brand is totally unknown and kids all they want are Nikes and the chilean distro is run by a non skater guy who sells fake wknd boards...[close]
I’m surprised Chile even gets State. Growing up “adrenalin” would hold it down there to some extent—are they not in business anymore? Just tangential curiosity[close]
Parque Arauco with that sweet wooden bowl? Good days indeed.Expand QuoteDamn, Adrenalin is a name I haven't heard in ages. If I recall correctly they went out of business like in 2009 I believe. The place was all over the country on it's prime and then they failed spectacularly.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAt the end I ordered some white Albanys Magenta collab. Price is ridiculously cheap, if I like them in thinking about getting keys and Mercer. Crappy thing is that here in Chile the brand is totally unknown and kids all they want are Nikes and the chilean distro is run by a non skater guy who sells fake wknd boards...[close]
I’m surprised Chile even gets State. Growing up “adrenalin” would hold it down there to some extent—are they not in business anymore? Just tangential curiosity[close][close]
Holy crap I guess I just didn't notice when that happened then :(
I think I still have an adrenalin poster in my childhood bedroom hahah
Got my first non-pirated board at the adrenalin in Concepción, and my first non-pirated Indys at the one in Parque Arauco.
Good fucking times man...
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ive got a pair of FP kingfoam elites inside my state Elgins and theyre great. 2nd time ive had this combo but I cant find the shoe in Scotland anymore. I have a pair of EMerica G6's to skate next and im not looking forward to the change
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHas anyone tried FP Gamechangers or any other aftermarket insoles in States? I wanna try some but I have old man feet and I'm scared they won't be supportive enough.[close]
ive got a pair of FP kingfoam elites inside my state Elgins and theyre great. 2nd time ive had this combo but I cant find the shoe in Scotland anymore. I have a pair of EMerica G6's to skate next and im not looking forward to the change[close]
check rollersnakes dawg, they've had states on sale for £20/25 since october 2018 lol
https://rollersnakes.co.uk/pages/search-results-page?q=elgin
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteHas anyone tried FP Gamechangers or any other aftermarket insoles in States? I wanna try some but I have old man feet and I'm scared they won't be supportive enough.[close]
ive got a pair of FP kingfoam elites inside my state Elgins and theyre great. 2nd time ive had this combo but I cant find the shoe in Scotland anymore. I have a pair of EMerica G6's to skate next and im not looking forward to the change[close]
check rollersnakes dawg, they've had states on sale for £20/25 since october 2018 lol
https://rollersnakes.co.uk/pages/search-results-page?q=elgin[close]
yeah dude I got my current pair from rollersnakes but theyre completely out of my size now, shoudla stocked up.. oh well
thanks for the tip though bud
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteHas anyone tried FP Gamechangers or any other aftermarket insoles in States? I wanna try some but I have old man feet and I'm scared they won't be supportive enough.[close]
ive got a pair of FP kingfoam elites inside my state Elgins and theyre great. 2nd time ive had this combo but I cant find the shoe in Scotland anymore. I have a pair of EMerica G6's to skate next and im not looking forward to the change[close]
check rollersnakes dawg, they've had states on sale for £20/25 since october 2018 lol
https://rollersnakes.co.uk/pages/search-results-page?q=elgin[close]
yeah dude I got my current pair from rollersnakes but theyre completely out of my size now, shoudla stocked up.. oh well
thanks for the tip though bud[close]
Noteshop still got some Elgins in adult sizes.
https://www.noteshop.co.uk/state-elgin-monks-sand.html
I'm looking at state.I've had a handful of States over the last 3 years (Mercer, Madison, Salem, Elgin) and all fit me TTS. I'm an 11 and they fit comfortably in that size. Not too roomy, or snug. Most models are slightly narrow in shape but don't feel squished.
I'm pretty over what I been skating again I saw they got a reinforced denim shoe for around 50ish.
I would be buying blind because of the Rona so maybe someone can help.
I wear like an eight five dunk size eight blazer if it's a regular blazer 8.5 is usually my safe zone for trying kicks but in like adidas stupid boozer
high heel soccer shoes I'm like a 9.
If you tried these shoes and can compare I'd appreciate the help
I'm looking at state.
I'm pretty over what I been skating again I saw they got a reinforced denim shoe for around 50ish.
I would be buying blind because of the Rona so maybe someone can help.
I wear like an eight five dunk size eight blazer if it's a regular blazer 8.5 is usually my safe zone for trying kicks but in like adidas stupid boozer
high heel soccer shoes I'm like a 9.
If you tried these shoes and can compare I'd appreciate the help
I've had a handful of States over the last 3 years (Mercer, Madison, Salem, Elgin) and all fit me TTS. I'm an 11 and they fit comfortably in that size. Not too roomy, or snug. Most models are slightly narrow in shape but don't feel squished.Expand QuoteI'm looking at state.
I'm pretty over what I been skating again I saw they got a reinforced denim shoe for around 50ish.
I would be buying blind because of the Rona so maybe someone can help.
I wear like an eight five dunk size eight blazer if it's a regular blazer 8.5 is usually my safe zone for trying kicks but in like adidas stupid boozer
high heel soccer shoes I'm like a 9.
If you tried these shoes and can compare I'd appreciate the help[close]
I'm an 11 in State, 11 in Blazer Mid and Dunks, as well as Busenitz (could maybe go up to 11.5 in these) all those fit me just right, except for Busenitz since I felt the heel drop and my feet spilled over the cupsole.
Whatever your normal size is, you should be good to go. Don't think you need to 0.5 up or down!
I know this is a small company, but where they at? I barely see promoting, or new styles, anything from the team, what’s good? I wanna see them last a long time. These shoes are really good
I'm looking at state.
I'm pretty over what I been skating again I saw they got a reinforced denim shoe for around 50ish.
I would be buying blind because of the Rona so maybe someone can help.
I wear like an eight five dunk size eight blazer if it's a regular blazer 8.5 is usually my safe zone for trying kicks but in like adidas stupid boozer
high heel soccer shoes I'm like a 9.
If you tried these shoes and can compare I'd appreciate the help
https://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/20200507_tfals_hol20_issuuRed Leelands and Pacifica cups are probably the best things State has ever done.
https://issuu.com/statefootwear/docs/20200819_tfals_sp21_catalog_issuu
Just wanted to share my experience with States. 100% back them! I've skated the harlem just because I needed some more support and really dug the shoe. The insole was great but it gave out way before I wore out the shoe. I ended up messaging them to see if there was a way to purchase some insoles and the dude who responded to me ended up shipping a few my way for no charge. If you're reading this, I just want to say I appreciate your kindness so much!
To the Euro guys here, which shops carry State ?
Why would anyone want to skate State?
Every pair I had hurt my feet in no time. In 3 days they already feel like a super worn out 2 months Vans...
My buddy is looking at getting some State bishops in black chambray. Anyone tried em? How's the durability?direct him here? https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=95511.0
I cautioned him about the chambray material but I'm wondering if Im wrong. I'm all about suede but he likes the idea of a vegan option.
Let me know!
direct him here? https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=95511.0Expand QuoteMy buddy is looking at getting some State bishops in black chambray. Anyone tried em? How's the durability?
I cautioned him about the chambray material but I'm wondering if Im wrong. I'm all about suede but he likes the idea of a vegan option.
Let me know![close]
State make well designed vulcs, better than some of the bigger brands. Can’t vouch for their chambray models but like the canvas models, I’d imagine they are rubber backed for extra strength...
I so badly want to support this company but until we see a high top cupsole it won't happen
I’m normally a 9.5, would you guys suggest sticking to a 9.5 in them, or a 10?
tough crowd huh?Expand Quotedirect him here? https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=95511.0Expand QuoteMy buddy is looking at getting some State bishops in black chambray. Anyone tried em? How's the durability?
I cautioned him about the chambray material but I'm wondering if Im wrong. I'm all about suede but he likes the idea of a vegan option.
Let me know![close]
State make well designed vulcs, better than some of the bigger brands. Can’t vouch for their chambray models but like the canvas models, I’d imagine they are rubber backed for extra strength...[close]
The specific model/colorway he's considering are on sale. It's not so much he's looking for a vegan shoe, but it is why he's intrigued by the ones I mentioned.
Dude skates suede Emericas patched with duct tape so I figured I'd ask about how durable they are. Thanks for the response, regardless of how condescending you came off
Expand Quotedirect him here? https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=95511.0Expand QuoteMy buddy is looking at getting some State bishops in black chambray. Anyone tried em? How's the durability?
I cautioned him about the chambray material but I'm wondering if Im wrong. I'm all about suede but he likes the idea of a vegan option.
Let me know![close]
State make well designed vulcs, better than some of the bigger brands. Can’t vouch for their chambray models but like the canvas models, I’d imagine they are rubber backed for extra strength...[close]
The specific model/colorway he's considering are on sale. It's not so much he's looking for a vegan shoe, but it is why he's intrigued by the ones I mentioned.
Dude skates suede Emericas patched with duct tape so I figured I'd ask about how durable they are. Thanks for the response, regardless of how condescending you came off
Expand QuoteExpand Quotedirect him here? https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=95511.0Expand QuoteMy buddy is looking at getting some State bishops in black chambray. Anyone tried em? How's the durability?
I cautioned him about the chambray material but I'm wondering if Im wrong. I'm all about suede but he likes the idea of a vegan option.
Let me know![close]
State make well designed vulcs, better than some of the bigger brands. Can’t vouch for their chambray models but like the canvas models, I’d imagine they are rubber backed for extra strength...[close]
The specific model/colorway he's considering are on sale. It's not so much he's looking for a vegan shoe, but it is why he's intrigued by the ones I mentioned.
Dude skates suede Emericas patched with duct tape so I figured I'd ask about how durable they are. Thanks for the response, regardless of how condescending you came off[close]
I've been skating in the same pair of Bishops (except walnut/white is the colorway, not sure if the material is any different) since freaking July, so I'd say the durability is surprisingly great. They still have a lot of life in them too, no ollie hole on either (my skating style is atrocious for shoes), the laces are the most ripped part, I just checked and the classic big toe hole on the outer sole is only just now starting to form on the right one (I'm goofy). They obviously feel soggier than they used to be but they don't feel dead, just super comfortably worn in (which is my shit).
Honestly before I skated those I had been skating nothing but Albanys for at least a year if not two (in fact I still have a few pairs stockpiled), so when I started skating the Bishops I expected them to suck in comparison, maybe just due to how I tend to prefer mid tops, but then they grew on me over time and I'm not sure a pair of shoes ever even lasted me this long in 20+ years of skating. I still prefer the Albany, but those also really aren't a bad model.
So what’s up with state? I wanted this company to be a big thing but these guys are slow with it, I get they are small and such, but we barely get any new models and most of the colorways we get are Mehh, also why was there a Fred Gall shoe? He doesn’t even wear them, all he wears are busentiz vulc’s. Give us a honest update, maybe some team footy, where’s all the guys at? Jon Nguyen been hiding out? Give coakley a colorway or something, idk, I wanna support but give us something!I'm on the same page, I think they're dropping the ball.
I think it’s time they update this team, total revamp. I’m willing to give them my money but I’d love to see a new direction by this company. Start with putting Ryan lay on!I'm on the same page, I think they're dropping the ball.Expand QuoteSo what’s up with state? I wanted this company to be a big thing but these guys are slow with it, I get they are small and such, but we barely get any new models and most of the colorways we get are Mehh, also why was there a Fred Gall shoe? He doesn’t even wear them, all he wears are busentiz vulc’s. Give us a honest update, maybe some team footy, where’s all the guys at? Jon Nguyen been hiding out? Give coakley a colorway or something, idk, I wanna support but give us something![close]
I had a couple of pairs and they were ok, pretty durable, never really felt broken in right.
The cupsole addition is nice, but the grip pattern on the sole is a complete joke. Like those old HUF shoe that go bald in one session.
Unfortunately, my current opinion of State can only be given by Ben Gore's apathy to take my money at FTC and Maloufs seemingly constant Instagram complaining about how he has to go to work.
I'm on the same page, I think they're dropping the ball.Expand QuoteSo what’s up with state? I wanted this company to be a big thing but these guys are slow with it, I get they are small and such, but we barely get any new models and most of the colorways we get are Mehh, also why was there a Fred Gall shoe? He doesn’t even wear them, all he wears are busentiz vulc’s. Give us a honest update, maybe some team footy, where’s all the guys at? Jon Nguyen been hiding out? Give coakley a colorway or something, idk, I wanna support but give us something![close]
I had a couple of pairs and they were ok, pretty durable, never really felt broken in right.
The cupsole addition is nice, but the grip pattern on the sole is a complete joke. Like those old HUF shoe that go bald in one session.
Unfortunately, my current opinion of State can only be given by Ben Gore's apathy to take my money at FTC and Maloufs seemingly constant Instagram complaining about how he has to go to work.
waiting for the bushwick
I wish State would sell their insoles individually (as a pair of course) because they are some of the best that come stock with shoes. I've had 7+ States over the last 3-4 years and I've tried to keep all of their insoles when I was done skating/wearing them.
Anyone else really fond of their insoles?
When are "modern" shoe companies going to stop making Sperry's topsiders with Tao bao bottoms trying to pass them off as skate shoes?Gnar for you sir.BRING BACK THE CHONKS....
mid top cupsole looks like a common projects shoe and will fit in well with what every white guy who doesn't skate wears in manhattan, nyKinda agree
Anyone know when those bushwicks come out? I want those white canvas ones.
damn i dont really fuck with state but that team line up is good! what happened to jordan sanchez?
Expand QuoteAnyone know when those bushwicks come out? I want those white canvas ones.[close]
Same here !
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone know when those bushwicks come out? I want those white canvas ones.[close]
Same here ![close]
Asked State in IG about the Bushwick release and the confirmed mid-march release.
I like these.
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Been hearing this may be the end for State. Kinda thinking about getting a pair, but the last few I had were just like so obviously shitty. Anyone skated any of their recent release?
Expand QuoteBeen hearing this may be the end for State. Kinda thinking about getting a pair, but the last few I had were just like so obviously shitty. Anyone skated any of their recent release?[close]
I have a pair that I tried to wear recently. Made it about 30 minutes. Total dogshit. Gonna leave them at the park next time I go
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteBeen hearing this may be the end for State. Kinda thinking about getting a pair, but the last few I had were just like so obviously shitty. Anyone skated any of their recent release?[close]
I have a pair that I tried to wear recently. Made it about 30 minutes. Total dogshit. Gonna leave them at the park next time I go[close]
Which model was it? The new Harlem looks like the quality may be a bit improved, but idk.
I heard rumors that they couldn’t get into any good factories, so they were using factories in China that make the fake Dunks and whatnot.