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General Discussion => WHATEVER => Topic started by: Monty Burns on June 12, 2016, 11:34:32 AM
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50 people were murdered and another 53 injured inside Pulse nightclub in Orlando. It's the biggest slaughter at the hands of a gunman in American history.
The killer in the Orlando nightclub slaughter is 29-year-old Omar Mateen. TMZ has done a records search and found he held a Florida security officer license and a state firearms license. He's an American citizen and he has family that are not -- his parents are Afghan. Authorities say he was a terrorist and was targeting gays. They say in addition to terrorism this is a hate crime.
Law enforcement says Mateen was well prepared, with an assault weapon, a handgun and 2 suspicious devices.
Local law enforcement officials and Department of Homeland Security officials have told members of Congress that the gunman made the 911 call shortly before the attacks and swore allegiance to the Islamic State terrorist group.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3637414/Everyone-running-Gunman-bursts-gay-nightclub-Florida-shoots-20-people-taking-hostages.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3637414/Everyone-running-Gunman-bursts-gay-nightclub-Florida-shoots-20-people-taking-hostages.html)
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/12/omar-mateen-orlando-nightclub-attack-shooter-named (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/12/omar-mateen-orlando-nightclub-attack-shooter-named)
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/13/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-ab-top-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/13/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-ab-top-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0)
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What a piece of shit >:(
Cant even say shit, its just fucked up
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I'm left speechless after hearing this news. Just, wow. Fuck.
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Time to ban firearms
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Looks like Trump will "cash in" on this. Big time.
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^ unfortunately you're right. Except for fire arm restrictions he and his followers will call for Muslim restrictions.
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Looks like Trump will "cash in" on this. Big time.
Never let a tragedy go to waste.
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this is heartbreaking.
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This is already turning into a massive shitshow holy fuck.
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I fear that since the man was Muslim and an Isis sympathizer this is going to cause so much violence against Muslims and spur Trump onto a victory. We live in dark times, and it'll only get worse
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So sad about this. My feelings go out to friends and families of those involved.
Like everybody else already noted, it's not enough that 50 innocent people died, but right-wing politicians all over the West will use this to agitate against Muslims.
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Trump isn't winning Hillary is still a huge favorite
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So sad about this. My feelings go out to friends and families of those involved.
Like everybody else already noted, it's not enough that 50 innocent people died, but right-wing politicians all over the West will use this to agitate against Muslims.
And Muslim radicals will use that to stir up some more shit and dos on and so on rinse and repeat.
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Honestly fuck the muslim religion, but fuck every other religion too, Its 2016 and shit like this is still going on. You cant stop people from being stupid though.
False flag shit, left wing gun control, right wing bullshit, fuck this world.
Trump was gonna win either way.
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fuck :(
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I am always skating around there too, shit is scary to think about.
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So sad about this. My feelings go out to friends and families of those involved.
Like everybody else already noted, it's not enough that 50 innocent people died, but right-wing politicians all over the West will use this to agitate against Muslims.
but the shooter was a registered democrat...
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How conflicted do you think Trump supporters are that an ISIS sympathizer killed a bunch of gay people?
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How conflicted do you think Trump supporters are that an ISIS sympathizer killed a bunch of gay people?
they're masters of cognitive dissonance, so 0
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It's kind of silly for me to be more bummed by this than most other mass shootings I've observed, but I am. So saddened by today's stories.
Fuck organized religion.
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How many more people have to die before the US revisits their guns laws? This is sickening.
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Terrible, didn't some singer just get shot at her own show in Orlando a day before? Not saying it's connected but definitely a sad weekend that has transpired
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It's kind of silly for me to be more bummed by this than most other mass shootings I've observed, but I am. So saddened by today's stories.
Fuck organized religion.
It's not silly. It's the same as if a group of skateboarders were targeted, you are a part of that group and therefore feel more connected to them.
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It's kind of silly for me to be more bummed by this than most other mass shootings I've observed, but I am. So saddened by today's stories.
Fuck organized religion.
Eh it's natural. The Paris attacks shook me more than others in part because I felt like I could have been at that show.
Extra scary, another attack was narrowly averted in LA: https://news.vice.com/article/police-in-los-angeles-arrested-a-heavily-armed-man-heading-for-the-gay-pride-parade
My deepest sympathies to any of you in Orlando, or with friends/family involved.
Humans are terrible.
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How conflicted do you think Trump supporters are that an ISIS sympathizer killed a bunch of gay people?
they're masters of cognitive dissonance, so 0
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How conflicted do you think Trump supporters are that an ISIS sympathizer killed a bunch of gay people?
they're masters of cognitive dissonance, so 0
Yup
Why think when you can be a cry baby bitch-ass nazi?
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It's kind of silly for me to be more bummed by this than most other mass shootings I've observed, but I am. So saddened by today's stories.
Fuck organized religion.
Eh it's natural. The Paris attacks shook me more than others in part because I felt like I could have been at that show.
Extra scary, another attack was narrowly averted in LA: https://news.vice.com/article/police-in-los-angeles-arrested-a-heavily-armed-man-heading-for-the-gay-pride-parade
My deepest sympathies to any of you in Orlando, or with friends/family involved.
Humans are terrible.
Any word about that dude or dudes ? if they were muslim extremists ? or right wing extremists ? cant find anything about it yet
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Ironically, since terrorism is trending heavily, all the female virgins in the afterlife are spoken for. Dude's in for a fabulously good time.
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Well I just went skating and now I dont give a fuck that 50 people just died. So if you feel bad go skate.
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It's kind of silly for me to be more bummed by this than most other mass shootings I've observed, but I am. So saddened by today's stories.
Fuck organized religion.
Eh it's natural. The Paris attacks shook me more than others in part because I felt like I could have been at that show.
Extra scary, another attack was narrowly averted in LA: https://news.vice.com/article/police-in-los-angeles-arrested-a-heavily-armed-man-heading-for-the-gay-pride-parade
My deepest sympathies to any of you in Orlando, or with friends/family involved.
Humans are terrible.
Any word about that dude or dudes ? if they were muslim extremists ? or right wing extremists ? cant find anything about it yet
Apparently he had some connection to extremism, but was investigated by the FBI but they found the connections to be minimal and not of note. It was apparently driven more by homophobia.
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It's kind of silly for me to be more bummed by this than most other mass shootings I've observed, but I am. So saddened by today's stories.
Fuck organized religion.
Eh it's natural. The Paris attacks shook me more than others in part because I felt like I could have been at that show.
Extra scary, another attack was narrowly averted in LA: https://news.vice.com/article/police-in-los-angeles-arrested-a-heavily-armed-man-heading-for-the-gay-pride-parade
My deepest sympathies to any of you in Orlando, or with friends/family involved.
Humans are terrible.
Any word about that dude or dudes ? if they were muslim extremists ? or right wing extremists ? cant find anything about it yet
Apparently he had some connection to extremism, but was investigated by the FBI but they found the connections to be minimal and not of note. It was apparently driven more by homophobia.
Ah no I mean the new guy the arrested . the one with the assault rifles in the car and bomb stuff
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It's kind of silly for me to be more bummed by this than most other mass shootings I've observed, but I am. So saddened by today's stories.
Fuck organized religion.
Eh it's natural. The Paris attacks shook me more than others in part because I felt like I could have been at that show.
Extra scary, another attack was narrowly averted in LA: https://news.vice.com/article/police-in-los-angeles-arrested-a-heavily-armed-man-heading-for-the-gay-pride-parade
My deepest sympathies to any of you in Orlando, or with friends/family involved.
Humans are terrible.
Any word about that dude or dudes ? if they were muslim extremists ? or right wing extremists ? cant find anything about it yet
Apparently he had some connection to extremism, but was investigated by the FBI but they found the connections to be minimal and not of note. It was apparently driven more by homophobia.
it was homophobia with islamic extremism at its root. they were interconnected in this dude's beliefs.
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I hope this homophobic piece of shit gets 40 dude virgins to fuck wherever the fuck he believes he is going.
That's my ignorant response to this.
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I figure he'll be one of the virgins getting fucked
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Just remember guys...God works in mysterious ways!
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/93/Buddy_christ.jpg)
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really hope nothing else horrible happens during the Pride celebrations.
im scared that this wont be the only attack.
terrorists are fucking losers.
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so tragic. another shooting of innocents done by some asshole hiding behind some ideology.
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So the other guy seems to be a none muslim white guy
James Howell -- the 20-year-old Indiana man who was arrested with an arsenal in his car hours before his planned arrival at the West Hollywood Pride parade was arrested less than a year ago for pointing a gun in a threatening manner ... TMZ has learned.
Police found an arsenal in his car, including three assault rifles, high capacity magazines, ammunition, and a 5 gallon bucket with chemicals to make a bomb. He told police he had traveled to California to attend the Pride parade.
http://www.tmz.com/2016/06/12/pride-james-howell-criminal-history-guns/ (http://www.tmz.com/2016/06/12/pride-james-howell-criminal-history-guns/)
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i was just thinking the other day that we're due for a mass shooting. so fucked up that's what the world has come to
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http://observer.com/2016/06/jihad-denial-kills-again/ (http://observer.com/2016/06/jihad-denial-kills-again/)
This article hits the nail so god damned hard.
And fuck these religious nutjobs.
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fuck homophobia
fuck islamophobia
fuck donald trump
and most of all
fuck religion
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Terrible, didn't some singer just get shot at her own show in Orlando a day before? Not saying it's connected but definitely a sad weekend that has transpired
Yup, its so shitty. It was after her show where fans could talk to her.
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"Would've never happened if everybody in the club would've had guns" - Trump in a few hours
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fuck homophobia
fuck islamophobia
fuck donald trump
and most of all
fuck religion
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http://observer.com/2016/06/jihad-denial-kills-again/ (http://observer.com/2016/06/jihad-denial-kills-again/)
This article hits the nail so god damned hard.
And fuck these religious nutjobs.
this article was shit
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Well I just went skating and now I dont give a fuck that 50 people just died. So if you feel bad go skate.
Guy LeDouche shut the fuck up you arrogant prick shit
This world fucking sucks. Why the FUCK do we still have religion for? Fuck that shit! Religion just causes wars and hate! So fucking ironic how your religion teaches you to love everyone including your enemies, yet you hate people who don't think like you. Religion is just a cluster fuck of bullshit and lies!
Oh and fuck Trump and this piece of shit ISIS fuck!
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If I were a betting man, I'd put my money on this dude is queer and hated himself so much he had to kill other gay men who accepted themselves for being gay.
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Well I just went skating and now I dont give a fuck that 50 people just died. So if you feel bad go skate.
Guy LeDouche shut the fuck up you arrogant prick shit
This world fucking sucks. Why the FUCK do we still have religion for? Fuck that shit! Religion just causes wars and hate! So fucking ironic how your religion teaches you to love everyone including your enemies, yet you hate people who don't think like you. Religion is just a cluster fuck of bullshit and lies!
Oh and fuck Trump and this piece of shit ISIS fuck!
i wonder what life would be like if religion was never created.. it causes a lot of horrible things to happen from murder down to just being a close-minded idiot. with no fairytale of an afterlife in paradise or eternity in hell to fear would there be more or less evil in the world? none of that isis shit would happen...no crazy christian hearing god tell her to drown her children in the bath tub...but remorse would probably be pretty rare for people that need religion to have any morals
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If I were a betting man, I'd put my money on this dude is queer and hated himself so much he had to kill other gay men who accepted themselves for being gay.
I just watched the evening news with all the reports about the attack and the fallout from it. They broadcast live from Old Compton Street London which is the home of the gay scene and it was amazing hearing how this has focused people's attention on their plight not just now but historically. I don't know about this guy being a repressed gay but I wouldn't surprise me.
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Well I just went skating and now I dont give a fuck that 50 people just died. So if you feel bad go skate.
Guy LeDouche shut the fuck up you arrogant prick shit
This world fucking sucks. Why the FUCK do we still have religion for? Fuck that shit! Religion just causes wars and hate! So fucking ironic how your religion teaches you to love everyone including your enemies, yet you hate people who don't think like you. Religion is just a cluster fuck of bullshit and lies!
Oh and fuck Trump and this piece of shit ISIS fuck!
Well there's that Family Guy episode where Stewie and Brian travel to another dimension where religion never existed. Basically there's a cure for AIDS, everything in futuristic and life is great.
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If I were a betting man, I'd put my money on this dude is queer and hated himself so much he had to kill other gay men who accepted themselves for being gay.
definitely possible. years of suppressed homosexual urges x conservative religion x narcissism and/or slight autism = mass shooter of gay club
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Muslims dont like homo or alcohol, so why do they come? Why do we allow them here?
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Muslims dont like homo or alcohol, so why do they come? Why do we allow them here?
tracer of canada?
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If I were a betting man, I'd put my money on this dude is queer and hated himself so much he had to kill other gay men who accepted themselves for being gay.
definitely possible. years of suppressed homosexual urges x conservative religion x narcissism and/or slight autism = mass shooter of gay club
might be something to this.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pulse-orlando-nightclub-shooting/os-orlando-nightclub-omar-mateen-profile-20160613-story.html (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pulse-orlando-nightclub-shooting/os-orlando-nightclub-omar-mateen-profile-20160613-story.html)
says at least 4 witnesses saw him at the club more than once.
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Yeah, he looks like a dude who never got any ass, gay or straight. Combine this with a introvert personality, with mental barriers built in you head by religion, and no way to express/release thoughts and emotions or quiet his mind. Explosion is inevitable
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If I were a betting man, I'd put my money on this dude is queer and hated himself so much he had to kill other gay men who accepted themselves for being gay.
definitely possible. years of suppressed homosexual urges x conservative religion x narcissism and/or slight autism = mass shooter of gay club
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pulse-orlando-nightclub-shooting/os-orlando-nightclub-omar-mateen-profile-20160613-story.html (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pulse-orlando-nightclub-shooting/os-orlando-nightclub-omar-mateen-profile-20160613-story.html)
says at least 4 witnesses saw him at the club more than once.
Apparently he was also on a gay dating app.
http://gawker.com/orlando-shooter-was-reportedly-a-regular-at-pulse-and-h-1781920316?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow (http://gawker.com/orlando-shooter-was-reportedly-a-regular-at-pulse-and-h-1781920316?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)
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If I were a betting man, I'd put my money on this dude is queer and hated himself so much he had to kill other gay men who accepted themselves for being gay.
definitely possible. years of suppressed homosexual urges x conservative religion x narcissism and/or slight autism = mass shooter of gay club
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pulse-orlando-nightclub-shooting/os-orlando-nightclub-omar-mateen-profile-20160613-story.html (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pulse-orlando-nightclub-shooting/os-orlando-nightclub-omar-mateen-profile-20160613-story.html)
says at least 4 witnesses saw him at the club more than once.
http://gawker.com/orlando-shooter-was-reportedly-a-regular-at-pulse-and-h-1781920316?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow (http://gawker.com/orlando-shooter-was-reportedly-a-regular-at-pulse-and-h-1781920316?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)
If true, sounds like he was trying to suppress his homo sexual thoughts and taken his anger out on these poor people. Pathetic.
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one of my co workers today said '55 down, 22 thousand to go' to another co worker. disgusting
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one of my co workers today said '55 down, 22 thousand to go' to another co worker. disgusting
People are fucked.
http://thoughtcatalog.com/jacob-geers/2016/06/here-are-all-the-people-applauding-the-orlando-gay-club-shooter/ (http://thoughtcatalog.com/jacob-geers/2016/06/here-are-all-the-people-applauding-the-orlando-gay-club-shooter/)
http://www.gspellchecker.com/2016/06/what-are-some-people-saying-about-the-orlando-shooting-in-arabic/ (http://www.gspellchecker.com/2016/06/what-are-some-people-saying-about-the-orlando-shooting-in-arabic/)
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one of my co workers today said '55 down, 22 thousand to go' to another co worker. disgusting
http://thoughtcatalog.com/jacob-geers/2016/06/here-are-all-the-people-applauding-the-orlando-gay-club-shooter/ (http://thoughtcatalog.com/jacob-geers/2016/06/here-are-all-the-people-applauding-the-orlando-gay-club-shooter/)
http://www.gspellchecker.com/2016/06/what-are-some-people-saying-about-the-orlando-shooting-in-arabic/ (http://www.gspellchecker.com/2016/06/what-are-some-people-saying-about-the-orlando-shooting-in-arabic/)
Well, people are still racist, and people still believe in god, so obviously people are still really fucking dumb. Not a bit surprised people still give a shit who other people have sex with.
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fuck homophobia
fuck islamophobia
fuck donald trump
and most of all
fuck religion
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one of my co workers today said '55 down, 22 thousand to go' to another co worker. disgusting
http://thoughtcatalog.com/jacob-geers/2016/06/here-are-all-the-people-applauding-the-orlando-gay-club-shooter/ (http://thoughtcatalog.com/jacob-geers/2016/06/here-are-all-the-people-applauding-the-orlando-gay-club-shooter/)
http://www.gspellchecker.com/2016/06/what-are-some-people-saying-about-the-orlando-shooting-in-arabic/ (http://www.gspellchecker.com/2016/06/what-are-some-people-saying-about-the-orlando-shooting-in-arabic/)
Well, people are still racist, and people still believe in god, so obviously people are still really fucking dumb. Not a bit surprised people still give a shit who other people have sex with.
Your co-workers deserve to be beaten. Fuck them.
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one of my co workers today said '55 down, 22 thousand to go' to another co worker. disgusting
http://thoughtcatalog.com/jacob-geers/2016/06/here-are-all-the-people-applauding-the-orlando-gay-club-shooter/ (http://thoughtcatalog.com/jacob-geers/2016/06/here-are-all-the-people-applauding-the-orlando-gay-club-shooter/)
http://www.gspellchecker.com/2016/06/what-are-some-people-saying-about-the-orlando-shooting-in-arabic/ (http://www.gspellchecker.com/2016/06/what-are-some-people-saying-about-the-orlando-shooting-in-arabic/)
Well, people are still racist, and people still believe in god, so obviously people are still really fucking dumb. Not a bit surprised people still give a shit who other people have sex with.
Your co-workers deserve to be beaten. Fuck them.
Fuck violence. I am curious as to what kind of work ice nine does, though.
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work for a meat distributor, one of the truck drivers said it.
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fuck homophobia
fuck islamophobia
fuck donald trump
and most of all
fuck religion
please don't use that made-up word "islamophobia". Islam is a religion. Therefore you can approve it ot not. Nothing wrong with disliking it. People who hate arabs and/or muslims are just plain racist.
also, some dude with a knife claiming to act for the Islamic State killed a police officer and his wife (also a cop) in the Paris suburbs last night. The woman was killed in her home in the presence of her 3 year old child (who survived).
I'm so sick of this shit.
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one of my co workers today said '55 down, 22 thousand to go' to another co worker. disgusting
I am friends with people who knew people who were killed that night and I also work with a girl that regulars there who almost went there that night. People who arent that close to the situation I can understand their insensitivity to what happened but to just be so hateful is despicable. This coming from a guy who is a chronic hater, like most of us on this messageboard.
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Omar Mateen, the gunman who murdered 49 people in a gay nightclub in Orlando early Sunday morning, may have actually been gay himself and was leading a double life.
Mateen's horrifying attack on Pulse nightclub was initially thought to be a homophobic attack rooted in extremist Islamic ideology.
But now his ex-wife, a former police academy classmate and clubbers have stepped forward to say they think Mateen was gay and had been visiting Pulse since 2013.
Investigators think he could have traveled to Pulse - which was a two hour drive from his home in Port St Lucie in Southern Florida - so he wouldn't have been seen.
It's also been revealed that Mateen used gay dating apps Grindr and Jack'd to chat to men online and was comfortable talking to transvestites.
One regular at the club said he'd seen Mateen, at least a dozen times there before the massacre.
Dating: One of the regulars at Pulse said he had befriended Mateen on gay dating app Jack'd and that they had exchanged messages. Pictured: A Jack'd promotional image
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Dating: One of the regulars at Pulse said he had befriended Mateen on gay dating app Jack'd and that they had exchanged messages. Pictured: A Jack'd promotional image
'Sometimes he would go over in the corner and sit and drink by himself,' Ty Smith, who also uses the name Aries, told the Sentinel Monday.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3639961/Orlando-terrorist-went-gay-club-Pulse-dozen-times-got-drunk-belligerent-talked-wife-kid-massacring-49-people-there.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3639961/Orlando-terrorist-went-gay-club-Pulse-dozen-times-got-drunk-belligerent-talked-wife-kid-massacring-49-people-there.html)
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ISIS sure must be proud for a gay dude proclaiming allegiance to them now :D
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^What kind of virgins is he getting for this? Do you get a choice? Just saying people (maybe some one has mentioned this) I'm pretty sure the east coast US murdered 150 native americans in one fell swoop back a hundred or so years ago. Might even have been on florida ground. And I don't think you guys took the "injured " to the "hospital" in that one case. My condolances to the 50 dead tho.
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^What kind of virgins is he getting for this? Do you get a choice? Just saying people (maybe some one has mentioned this) I'm pretty sure the east coast US murdered 150 native americans in one fell swoop back a hundred or so years ago. Might even have been on florida ground. And I don't think you guys took the "injured " to the "hospital" in that one case. My condolances to the 50 dead tho.
yeah, sorry WE didnt take them to the hospital because WE weren't around at that time, asshole. whats your point? that settlers killed the natives a few hundred years ago in in US? just like the same shit thats happened literally all of the entire world since the dawn of man?
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By you're response its apparent that you're from the U.S and that you are sensitive about me calling you're countries history out. (and maybe waybe you're white too huh?, if you were native you would not talk about such matters so dismissively)
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And my "point" was that this is not the U.S's largest shooting dude, (although that was fuckin obvious guy) Basically FU JB
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fuck homophobia
fuck islamophobia
fuck donald trump
and most of all
fuck religion
please don't use that made-up word "islamophobia". Islam is a religion. Therefore you can approve it ot not. Nothing wrong with disliking it. People who hate arabs and/or muslims are just plain racist.
also, some dude with a knife claiming to act for the Islamic State killed a police officer and his wife (also a cop) in the Paris suburbs last night. The woman was killed in her home in the presence of her 3 year old child (who survived).
I'm so sick of this shit.
I don't like any religions very much, particularly the monotheistic ones. And of those, ultra-orthodox Judaism and conservative Islam creep me out the most. Too many rules and traditions like dressing women up in black sacks. Or when men refuse to sit next to a woman on an airplane. Sorry, but I don't think "culture" is a good enough explanation for any of that. This is religion manifesting as mental illness on a group level.
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^YES but which group sir has the illness and which one does not?, what about your "group level" that you partake in (western society standing on the shoulders of child labour)? Its important to not turn into a racist is all im sayn.
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^The majority of humanity does not impose these kinds of rules on its women. Ultra-conservative religious practitioners are a minority even within their larger religious communities because they are freaks.
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Defenitely a shortcoming..
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Self-loathing is some particularly nasty shit.
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I'm getting real sick of how this country operates. Assault rifles for sale? Why the FUCK do we need them for? Fuck anyone else who disagrees. There's absolutely no need for a fucking assault rifle. Yeah, I'm for guns for protection and shit, but why the fuck can you just walk into a fucking gun shop, say "Hey Billy Bob get me that AR15 so I can go and shoot up a school/gay clu-- I mean uhhh polish it and look like a badass American. Thanks Billy Bob! Hail Hydra!"
Fuck you and your fucking American logic!
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I'm getting real sick of how this country operates. Assault rifles for sale? Why the FUCK do we need them for? Fuck anyone else who disagrees. There's absolutely no need for a fucking assault rifle. Yeah, I'm for guns for protection and shit, but why the fuck can you just walk into a fucking gun shop, say "Hey Billy Bob get me that AR15 so I can go and shoot up a school/gay clu-- I mean uhhh polish it and look like a badass American. Thanks Billy Bob! Hail Hydra!"
Fuck you and your fucking American logic!
I would like to start by saying, yes, I wish guns were never invented and all conflicts over time were fought with words. But...
Its a vicious cycle, and banning something is never the way to go, especially when these things exist and are already out there. Guns are primitive technology and you can make one in your garage. And "assault" rifle is pretty lame term, I can get a 100 round clip for my pistol. If I really wanted to cause damage though I would just stroll to the hardware store and make a shitload of bombs.
You sound like a pussy.
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Jim Jefferies -- Gun Control (Part 1) from BARE -- Netflix Special (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rR9IaXH1M0#)
The Daily Show - John Oliver's Australia & Gun Control's Aftermath (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVuspKSjfgA#)
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http://www.theonion.com/blogpost/its-honor-continue-being-valued-over-countless-hum-53094 (http://www.theonion.com/blogpost/its-honor-continue-being-valued-over-countless-hum-53094)
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Im not a gun nut. I just dont think banning anything is the way to go. People say fuck the government, and at the same time want them to ban things so they can be more protected. Thats some pussy shit.
BRING IT OOOWN GUVMENT! TRY EN TAKE EM!
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guys, gun control is not the only issue here unfortunately.
Islamist extremists have been active in Europe for 20 years. The terrorists at the Bataclan for instance had smuggled AK47s. The bomb in Atocha train station, Spain, made 200 victims. There were around 15 bombs in Paris back in 95, including one I remember vividly cause I took the train right after the bombed one.
this is like a triple shitstorm...homophobia + radical islam + easily available guns in the US.
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Guns are one of America's most important checks and balances in power. Don't let the media brainwash you into giving them up.
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Guns are one of America's most important checks and balances in power. Don't let the media brainwash you into giving them up.
I'm not sure if you're being serious, but if you think owning guns is going to protect you from a tyrannical government you are insane. If the government wants our guns, they'll get them no problem. The government has money, a military, and technology we don't even know about. Big LOL at people thinking they're gonna fend off the govt with a bunker and some ARs. If it gets bad enough to where they stop being nice, like they have been to the Bundy ranch man-boys and militia kooks playing dress up in the woods, it won't matter how many guns you have. You can't beat the government.
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It would make a difference if the government decided to wage war against its own people. Of course we can't stop the feds and the American military by ourselves but our being armed and possibly organized would certainly slow them down or give them second thoughts. Why else would the media push this anti-gun narrative so hard on us? The leaps they make in their arguments are crazy. It's never "street gangs are a threat to order, so we should ban guns." It's always "these lone shooters are a threat to society so we must ban guns." Even though the latter kill far far fewer people than daily street gang violence.
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It would make a difference if the government decided to wage war against its own people. Of course we can't stop the feds and the American military by ourselves but our being armed and possibly organized would certainly slow them down or give them second thoughts. Why else would the media push this anti-gun narrative so hard on us? The leaps they make in their arguments are crazy. It's never "street gangs are a threat to order, so we should ban guns." It's always "these lone shooters are a threat to society so we must ban guns." Even though the latter kill far far fewer people than daily street gang violence.
Street gangs kill each other first and foremost. They do also kill innocent people on occasion, generally collateral damage, and that makes the news when it happens. Lone shooters' primary targets are innocent people. That's why they are a threat.
Also, no one is proposing to "take our guns". People are proposing that we maybe update our gun laws, so that fucking psychos can't get bored one day and drive to the store and stock up on semi-automatic weapons that can kill people as fast as they can pull the trigger.
You're right, don't let the media brainwash you. Use your brain instead.
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http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/orlando-shooter-omar-mateen-was-gay-former-classma/nrfwW/ (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/orlando-shooter-omar-mateen-was-gay-former-classma/nrfwW/)
Mateen’s father emphatically told The Post Monday that his son was not gay.
It seems like his father has an easier time coming to terms with the fact that he beget a psychopathic mass murderer than the fact that his son was also gay.
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The only people proposing to "ban guns" are other countrys. Example, BBC, big black cock news, they go hard on this, because they have banned guns themselves. They also talk shit about other countrys not letting in refugees, because they have let alot in. They let these things happen to their country and then whine about other country not following their lead, because they got stuck with all the shit.
The americans who back these beliefs are the ones think america is "bad", and europe is "good". And wannabe PC correct idiots.
And if america turned on citizens, you better believe the citizens would put a big dent into government. Short of government non-stop drone strikes, tanks rolling around 24/7, air support all day, the citizens should fend for themselves fairly well.
But fuck the media, I woulda never even know about this if this wasnt posted here.
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By you're response its apparent that you're from the U.S and that you are sensitive about me calling you're countries history out. (and maybe waybe you're white too huh?, if you were native you would not talk about such matters so dismissively)
my problem with what you said wasnt the part about the natives getting killed being a bigger massacre, its the fact that you said it like its the american peoples fault. you made it a point to guilt and shame "us guys". you even left your condolences as the afterthought of your statement, which makes being a dick the main point of your post.
and im not trying to be that asshole waving the stars and stripes against everyone who wants to criticize the US. i know our country has its flaws and theyre nothing to be proud of, but its bullshit when people outside the US feel the need to point their fingers at the american people as a whole and call us the bad guys when something bad happens.
and i am white. please, tell me more about how im the bad guy, since i know you've got a case for that too.
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Fucking white people, I asked for a venti-latte.
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If you want to get a gun in sweden you have to be a active member of a gun club , like shooting 1 time a week or shooting afew times a month atleast . And you need experience with compressed air guns
You also have to apply for it from the police , give a valid reason for it , and have no record at all . And even then there is a long wait and you can be turned down basically for anything
To be fair we have a few shootings every week . Criminals get guns way easier then good citizens who follow the law . I think its pretty crazy that if somebody breaks into your house you will have to defend youself with a knife ( if you can get to a knife ) or with your fists when the criminal can have anything from a knife to a gun
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I'm getting real sick of how this country operates. Assault rifles for sale? Why the FUCK do we need them for? Fuck anyone else who disagrees. There's absolutely no need for a fucking assault rifle. Yeah, I'm for guns for protection and shit, but why the fuck can you just walk into a fucking gun shop, say "Hey Billy Bob get me that AR15 so I can go and shoot up a school/gay clu-- I mean uhhh polish it and look like a badass American. Thanks Billy Bob! Hail Hydra!"
Fuck you and your fucking American logic!
Its a vicious cycle, and banning something is never the way to go, especially when these things exist and are already out there. Guns are primitive technology and you can make one in your garage. And "assault" rifle is pretty lame term, I can get a 100 round clip for my pistol. If I really wanted to cause damage though I would just stroll to the hardware store and make a shitload of bombs.
You sound like a pussy.
Guy LeDouche I'm not saying ban ALL guns. I'm saying we don't need to be selling "assault" rifles. The fuck you gonna use it for?
We have the right to bear arms. To defend ourselves. But with an AR15? I'm not going to be shooting at a fucking tank or helicopter what the fuck would I need that shit for other than committing a terrorist act?
You sound like a fucking person.
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The general public does not need assault rifles... and I own one. It's the same one the San Bernadino guy used. I'd be totally fine if it got banned and the government did a buyback.
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bear arms.
Lol. OK last post in here unless I want to make fun of someone else. "Assault" rifles are rifles. Most if not all come stock with 10 round magazines. Rifles are used to hit targets from longer distances than pistols, therefore the bullets carry more velocity when fired. Im sorry if you feel the design of some guns look scary to you. They are designed like that to be functional, not scary looking. The media/movies/TV have trained your psyche to be scared of certain gun designs. Again, guns are designed to be functional for the user, not scary to others.
If you are scared of a certain gun design more than others, ask yourself why. Im willing to bet it was learned from the news, TV, and movies.
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Bruh guns are all people killers. All animals can be trapped or brought down with bows etc etc
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Lol. OK last post in here unless I want to make fun of someone else. "Assault" rifles are rifles. Most if not all come stock with 10 round magazines. Rifles are used to hit targets from longer distances than pistols, therefore the bullets carry more velocity when fired. Im sorry if you feel the design of some guns look scary to you. They are designed like that to be functional, not scary looking. The media/movies/TV have trained your psyche to be scared of certain gun designs. Again, guns are designed to be functional for the user, not scary to others.
If you are scared of a certain gun design more than others, ask yourself why. Im willing to bet it was learned from the news, TV, and movies.
And that function is...?
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Lol. OK last post in here unless I want to make fun of someone else. "Assault" rifles are rifles. Most if not all come stock with 10 round magazines. Rifles are used to hit targets from longer distances than pistols, therefore the bullets carry more velocity when fired. Im sorry if you feel the design of some guns look scary to you. They are designed like that to be functional, not scary looking. The media/movies/TV have trained your psyche to be scared of certain gun designs. Again, guns are designed to be functional for the user, not scary to others.
If you are scared of a certain gun design more than others, ask yourself why. Im willing to bet it was learned from the news, TV, and movies.
And that function is...?
To fire a projectile.
What you want to fire it at is up to you.
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If I were a betting man, I'd put my money on this dude is queer and hated himself so much he had to kill other gay men who accepted themselves for being gay.
That's becoming more apparent as the story unfolds. And the reason why Islam and all religions need to come out of the dark ages with this shit. Amazing how many Muslim leaders are offering their sympathies in this situation while gay people are routinely persecuted in their countries.
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Lol. OK last post in here unless I want to make fun of someone else. "Assault" rifles are rifles. Most if not all come stock with 10 round magazines. Rifles are used to hit targets from longer distances than pistols, therefore the bullets carry more velocity when fired. Im sorry if you feel the design of some guns look scary to you. They are designed like that to be functional, not scary looking. The media/movies/TV have trained your psyche to be scared of certain gun designs. Again, guns are designed to be functional for the user, not scary to others.
If you are scared of a certain gun design more than others, ask yourself why. Im willing to bet it was learned from the news, TV, and movies.
And that function is...?
To fire a projectile.
What you want to fire it at is up to you.
So you agree that you don't need an AR then.
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Saying you dont need an AR-15 instead of a pistol is the same as saying you dont need a Mercedes-Benz when theres toyota.
The ban guns argument is the same as saying if a guy stabbed a bunch of people, we need to ban knives.
Im out this bitch.
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If I were a betting man, I'd put my money on this dude is queer and hated himself so much he had to kill other gay men who accepted themselves for being gay.
That's becoming more apparent as the story unfolds. And the reason why Islam and all religions need to come out of the dark ages with this shit. Amazing how many Muslim leaders are offering their sympathies in this situation while gay people are routinely persecuted in their countries.
Not really . Back when the charlie hebdo shootings happend and there was that peace/ free press march with all the politicians . Several leaders that walked in the march were currently banning free press and arresting journalists
if Im not mistaken Erdogan was in the march and he is super aggressive vs free press
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Yep. Full of shit.
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Saying you dont need an AR-15 instead of a pistol is the same as saying you dont need a Mercedes-Benz when theres toyota.
The ban guns argument is the same as saying if a guy stabbed a bunch of people, we need to ban knives.
Im out this bitch.
God dammit who the fuck said BAN GUNS?! I said BAN AR15's! My fucking God YOU ARE A FUCK HEAD!
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I'm getting real sick of how this country operates. Assault rifles for sale? Why the FUCK do we need them for? Fuck anyone else who disagrees. There's absolutely no need for a fucking assault rifle. Yeah, I'm for guns for protection and shit, but why the fuck can you just walk into a fucking gun shop, say "Hey Billy Bob get me that AR15 so I can go and shoot up a school/gay clu-- I mean uhhh polish it and look like a badass American. Thanks Billy Bob! Hail Hydra!"
Fuck you and your fucking American logic!
Its a vicious cycle, and banning something is never the way to go, especially when these things exist and are already out there. Guns are primitive technology and you can make one in your garage. And "assault" rifle is pretty lame term, I can get a 100 round clip for my pistol. If I really wanted to cause damage though I would just stroll to the hardware store and make a shitload of bombs.
You sound like a pussy.
Guy LeDouche I'm not saying ban ALL guns. I'm saying we don't need to be selling "assault" rifles. The fuck you gonna use it for?
We have the right to bear arms. To defend ourselves. But with an AR15? I'm not going to be shooting at a fucking tank or helicopter what the fuck would I need that shit for other than committing a terrorist act?
You sound like a fucking person.
An ar15 is a fuckin .22 cal weapon.
It not military shit lol.
And its semi auto so its not a machine gun or anything
Most people just use them at the range or to kill coyotes.
They are not high powered rifles.
I have a .303 british and a 30/06 that make that gun look like a kids toy
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You can tell when someone knows nothing about guns when they say assault rifles should be banned.
Derp.
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You can tell when someone knows nothing about guns when they say assault rifles should be banned.
Derp.
Pretty much
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Really smart people just found this thread. ::)
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Really smart people just found this thread full of idiots. ::)
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Within years people will just 3d print guns. Inevitable and will nullify this debate. So save your breath.
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Within years people will just 3d print guns. Inevitable and will nullify this debate. So save your breath.
Im still waiting for someone to go apeshit with a compressed nail gun
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In this order....I'm blaming 1) guns 2) crazy 3) homophobia......
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That reminds me, homophobia is the most ignorant word.
Ive met people that dislike gays but im pretty sure they were not deathly afraid of them.
J soy you should just add "shitty people" and remove the others
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I'm getting real sick of how this country operates. Assault rifles for sale? Why the FUCK do we need them for? Fuck anyone else who disagrees. There's absolutely no need for a fucking assault rifle. Yeah, I'm for guns for protection and shit, but why the fuck can you just walk into a fucking gun shop, say "Hey Billy Bob get me that AR15 so I can go and shoot up a school/gay clu-- I mean uhhh polish it and look like a badass American. Thanks Billy Bob! Hail Hydra!"
Fuck you and your fucking American logic!
He passed the background check and had to wait the set number of days before he got his rifle.
I think it's fucked that someone that the FBI looked into/investigated can get a weapon, but that's because all of these regular agencies in the US don't speak to each other. There should have been an fucking alarm going off when he tried to buy a weapon, but it didn't, cause FBI doesn't deal with firearms background checks and their info never got pass to anyone else. Background checks only work if agencies work together.
But hey, you can also run for presidency when you're being looked into/investigated by the FBI.
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g4s is the worlds largest private security company. like scary big. even have troubled youths working for them. heavy arab presence. spooky stuff. they employed the shooter, and just so happen to have headquarters in all the cities of the past mass shootings in the usa.
isnt it ironic?
dont ya think?
peculiar also to note obama declared june lgbt month.
emotions wont come into play at the polls in november
think for yourself
or let the media spin it for you
you big dummy
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shooter calls 911 right before to claim ISIS. lol. not buying it. let me see some video footage. as well as paris/sandy hook.
You are a moron.
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That reminds me, homophobia is the most ignorant word.
Ive met people that dislike gays but im pretty sure they were not deathly afraid of them.
J soy you should just add "shitty people" and remove the others
Nah....there are shitty places all over the world...but they don't have mass shootings like they have in the US.....
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You can tell when someone knows nothing about guns when they say assault rifles should be banned.
Derp.
Pretty much
Really? Since the only people that I know on here who are actually government qualified expert is myself (I don't know what hate! qualed at), I might know a lot more than your hillbilly ass. When they handed me an M4 for the purpose of killing fucking people, I think I might have learned a thing or two. I also used to hump a m240b and call for fire from m109 Paladins, whose purposes where to fire projectiles. You need those things too?
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In Portugal guns are extremely hard to get, like you need a bunch of licenses and medical exams to get one, and if you get one is a hand gun at best. Hunters can have some hunting shotguns, air compressed rifles too (but nothing about assault rifles and shit). You dont see this kind of mass killings on here because people dont have them, simple as that. If you guys think that having guns will mean something for your safety and freedom think twice, those weapons are killing your brothers and sisters every single day!
I couldnt do a better video:
The Daily Show - Gun Control Whoop-de-doo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pOiOhxujsE#)
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In Portugal guns are extremely hard to get, like you need a bunch of licenses and medical exams to get one, and if you get one is a hand gun at best. Hunters can have some hunting shotguns, air compressed rifles too (but nothing about assault rifles and shit). You dont see this kind of mass killings on here because people dont have them, simple as that. If you guys think that having guns will mean something for your safety and freedom think twice, those weapons are killing your brothers and sisters every single day!
I couldnt do a better video:
The Daily Show - Gun Control Whoop-de-doo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pOiOhxujsE#)
you're being naive. Gun laws are pretty much the same in France than in Portugal. But any weapon can be smuggled. The Charlie Hebdo and Bataclan attackers had AK47s. Drug dealers in Marseille routinely "settle their differences" with automatic weapons too. I think gun laws in the US are crazy, but again, that's not the only issue.
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In Portugal guns are extremely hard to get, like you need a bunch of licenses and medical exams to get one, and if you get one is a hand gun at best. Hunters can have some hunting shotguns, air compressed rifles too (but nothing about assault rifles and shit). You dont see this kind of mass killings on here because people dont have them, simple as that. If you guys think that having guns will mean something for your safety and freedom think twice, those weapons are killing your brothers and sisters every single day!
I couldnt do a better video:
The Daily Show - Gun Control Whoop-de-doo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pOiOhxujsE#)
you're being naive. Gun laws are pretty much the same in France than in Portugal. But any weapon can be smuggled. The Charlie Hebdo and Bataclan attackers had AK47s. Drug dealers in Marseille routinely "settle their differences" with automatic weapons too. I think gun laws in the US are crazy, but again, that's not the only issue.
thats the thing though, its really hard for europeans (like me as well) to even imagine how a country with such easy access to guns works. i have once in my life held a gun in my hands, and apart from the people that served in the military i seriously know like 2 people that own rifles, and both of them are hunters. i`m sure that there are people with assault rifles in austria as well, since you can get everything illegally, but its way harder. and i like it that way.
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In Portugal guns are extremely hard to get, like you need a bunch of licenses and medical exams to get one, and if you get one is a hand gun at best. Hunters can have some hunting shotguns, air compressed rifles too (but nothing about assault rifles and shit). You dont see this kind of mass killings on here because people dont have them, simple as that. If you guys think that having guns will mean something for your safety and freedom think twice, those weapons are killing your brothers and sisters every single day!
I couldnt do a better video:
The Daily Show - Gun Control Whoop-de-doo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pOiOhxujsE#)
you're being naive. Gun laws are pretty much the same in France than in Portugal. But any weapon can be smuggled. The Charlie Hebdo and Bataclan attackers had AK47s. Drug dealers in Marseille routinely "settle their differences" with automatic weapons too. I think gun laws in the US are crazy, but again, that's not the only issue.
Yeah, you can get the gun you want, illegaly, which is much harder to get and can get you into lots of trouble. In EUA you go to a shop, buy a rifle and start killing everyone, simple as that. Isnt that scary? I'm not saying that is the only issue, but it is an issue. Do you think EUA laws in France would prevent the tragedy? I think not, and they happen a lot less frequently in here.
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I have relatives that are diehard hunter/fishermen. I own a 12 gauge purely out of an instilled feeling that I would be a fool not to have at least something on hand to try and put up a fight if my home were invaded. I have some beers on new years and pop off a few rounds in the ground for fun but other than that it collects dust. Taking a sportsman/hunters guns though would be like our skateboards being taken. They live for that shit. Not sure what my point is. I guess on the one hand I wouldn't have a problem giving up my gun but there would always be that fear(weather rational or not) that the bad guys have one and I don't. I did have an experience when I lived in the city where a gang related shooting took place on the street right outside my house. I dropped to the floor, crawled to my room and grabbed my gun, called the police and didn't go outside till I knew they were on the scene. Despite being scared shitless having that weapon did make me feel like I had some kind of chance. Im rambling but its just something I wrestle with and can def see both sides...
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In Portugal guns are extremely hard to get, like you need a bunch of licenses and medical exams to get one, and if you get one is a hand gun at best. Hunters can have some hunting shotguns, air compressed rifles too (but nothing about assault rifles and shit). You dont see this kind of mass killings on here because people dont have them, simple as that. If you guys think that having guns will mean something for your safety and freedom think twice, those weapons are killing your brothers and sisters every single day!
I couldnt do a better video:
The Daily Show - Gun Control Whoop-de-doo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pOiOhxujsE#)
you're being naive. Gun laws are pretty much the same in France than in Portugal. But any weapon can be smuggled. The Charlie Hebdo and Bataclan attackers had AK47s. Drug dealers in Marseille routinely "settle their differences" with automatic weapons too. I think gun laws in the US are crazy, but again, that's not the only issue.
Yeah, you can get the gun you want, illegaly, which is much harder to get and can get you into lots of trouble. In EUA you go to a shop, buy a rifle and start killing everyone, simple as that. Isnt that scary? I'm not saying that is the only issue, but it is an issue. Do you think EUA laws in France would prevent the tragedy? I think not, and they happen a lot less frequently in here.
we basically agree, man. It's just when you said these mass killings don't happen in Europe, I felt compelled to say something cause my country is still reeling from the attacks. And I'm sure more will be coming.
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Americans being so distrustful of their government is so funny to me. So are you guys saying that if the government gave the orders to "turn on the people" (whatever that might be???), your varied armed forces would not question any orders and go on a rampage like in Game of Thrones? Are they going to hold you at gunpoint until you buy the big pharma's product?
You don't need guns to protect yourself from the government, you're not fucking Africa. You don't need guns to protect yourself from gangs, since you'll always end up on the losing end (let the cops handle it). You just need guns to protect yourself from people gone mad that have a gun just like you.
Now, if those people only had access to knives etc., a lot less people would get hurt.
Edit: this is pretty much on point
http://www.theonion.com/article/concerned-nra-official-rushes-out-purchase-congres-53084 (http://www.theonion.com/article/concerned-nra-official-rushes-out-purchase-congres-53084)
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^Kay so , ... let's suppose that your a racist piece of shit cop, just suppose, and you want to kick somebody's door in. If you think someone might be on the other side with a pistol or a rifle, and that you might catch a bullet in you're fat ass, are you REALLY REALLy as likely to kick that door in dude??? come on (and like i said 3d printed guns will be around soon bro, -you'll get to give up the argument then)
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That reminds me, homophobia is the most ignorant word.
Ive met people that dislike gays but im pretty sure they were not deathly afraid of them.
J soy you should just add "shitty people" and remove the others
Have you ever heard of etymology? A word like "cool" used to apply strictly to the temperature of a thing. And a word like "asshole", when looking at it strictly for what it represents, wouldn't be used to describe a poster like you, but rather the sphincter.
In other words, context is everything.
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An AR-15 is a semi-automatic and fires one round each time the trigger is pulled, just like a pistol or a revolver. There is technically no such thing as an "assault weapon". It is simply a semi-automatic rifle.
What people perceive as an "assault weapon" is a fully automatic machine gun, which you cannot casually walk into a gun store and buy. You have to jump through several hoops to even obtain a tax stamp from the ATF that says you may purchase such a gun, and good luck if you receive that stamp while you're alive. Not to mention, military-style fully automatics are more expensive and most gun shops don't even carry them because of the two reasons listed.
The recent shootings in the last decade were done with semi-automatics. Not fully automatic machine guns. The real reason stupid people push the agenda to ban the AR-15 or other military-looking guns is simply that. Cosmetics. It looks "spookier". It's completely misguided and will serve no purpose and will stop no shootings from happening.
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So, a couple of things... It's obvious who the one that doesn't know shit about guns is now. And if it's only scary cosmetic that make people want to ban them, what's the problem? It's not that effective as a weapon, so fuck it, get rid of it!
Oh, but it's only been standard issue for militaries around the world for over 50 years, with minimal changes to it.
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I think most people know that these aren't fully automatic weapons. It's not cosmetics. It's the fact that these assault rifles coupled with high capacity magazines serve only one purpose. To kill. HUGE difference between a normal hand gun with a 10 to 12 bullet magazine.
Also, how come gun advocates who use the excuse of owning firearms to protect themselves from the government are normally the same people who feel like the government is completely incompetent? You're right, they can't get healthcare right but ,god damn, they sure are capable of conspiring to send in the black helicopters to take your guns or cart your family off to a fema death camp. ::)
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I just keep hearing everyone say "AR-15s are semi-automatic, they are not automatic machine gun death sticks blah blah". That's not the fucking point. WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF OWNING AN AR-15?!?! None of you mother fuckers have answered that simple fucking God damn question!
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I just keep hearing everyone say "AR-15s are semi-automatic, they are not automatic machine gun death sticks blah blah". That's not the fucking point. WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF OWNING AN AR-15?!?! None of you mother fuckers have answered that simple fucking God damn question!
Simple answer bro. It snags me a bucket-load of pussy and it makes my dick look John Holmes-esque.
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I just keep hearing everyone say "AR-15s are semi-automatic, they are not automatic machine gun death sticks blah blah". That's not the fucking point. WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF OWNING AN AR-15?!?! None of you mother fuckers have answered that simple fucking God damn question!
I did. For hunting
Very popular coyote gun.
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I just keep hearing everyone say "AR-15s are semi-automatic, they are not automatic machine gun death sticks blah blah". That's not the fucking point. WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF OWNING AN AR-15?!?! None of you mother fuckers have answered that simple fucking God damn question!
It's accurate, lightweight, can put a lot of rounds in a target very quickly, easy to use and maintain, can be easily modified or fit with accessories, the round does a ton of internal damage too, so that's a huge bonus... YOU LOOK LIKE MOTHER FUCKING SHWARZENEGGER IN COMMANDO AND YOU CAN PRETEND YOU'RE A DELTA OPERATOR AT THE SAME TIME.
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I just keep hearing everyone say "AR-15s are semi-automatic, they are not automatic machine gun death sticks blah blah". That's not the fucking point. WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF OWNING AN AR-15?!?! None of you mother fuckers have answered that simple fucking God damn question!
I did. For hunting
Very popular coyote gun.
You can kill a coyote with literally any other gun.
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I just keep hearing everyone say "AR-15s are semi-automatic, they are not automatic machine gun death sticks blah blah". That's not the fucking point. WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF OWNING AN AR-15?!?! None of you mother fuckers have answered that simple fucking God damn question!
It's accurate, lightweight, can put a lot of rounds in a target very quickly, easy to use and maintain, can be easily modified or fit with accessories, the round does a ton of internal damage too, so that's a huge bonus... YOU LOOK LIKE MOTHER FUCKING SHWARZENEGGER IN COMMANDO AND YOU CAN PRETEND YOU'RE A DELTA OPERATOR AT THE SAME TIME.
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I just keep hearing everyone say "AR-15s are semi-automatic, they are not automatic machine gun death sticks blah blah". That's not the fucking point. WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF OWNING AN AR-15?!?! None of you mother fuckers have answered that simple fucking God damn question!
I did. For hunting
Very popular coyote gun.
You can kill a coyote with literally any other gun.
Yes you can. I just use a typical .22
I dont have an ar15 so I dont care either way. Just adding to the discussion.
If you are being interviewed by the FBI, I think its obvious you should be "red flagged" and not able to legally obtain or purchase any firearm
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That reminds me, homophobia is the most ignorant word.
Ive met people that dislike gays but im pretty sure they were not deathly afraid of them.
J soy you should just add "shitty people" and remove the others
If fear leads to anger, and anger leads to hate (thanks Yoda), then irrational fear of homosexuals leads to irrational hatred of homosexuals.
So, using "homophobic" for haters of homosexuals is not being ignorant of etymology, but knowledgeable of psychological origins of their hatred; their fear.
But if you want to be etymologically correct, you should call haters of homosexuals "misomofylofilos."
try it out, see if it catches on
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How do all these nutjobs get hold of AK's?
AK47 Full Auto Shooting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCSFuRBXDp0#)
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That reminds me, homophobia is the most ignorant word.
Ive met people that dislike gays but im pretty sure they were not deathly afraid of them.
J soy you should just add "shitty people" and remove the others
If fear leads to anger, and anger leads to hate (thanks Yoda), then irrational fear of homosexuals leads to irrational hatred of homosexuals.
So, using "homophobic" for haters of homosexuals is not being ignorant of etymology, but knowledgeable of psychological origins of their hatred; their fear.
But if you want to be etymologically correct, you should call haters of homosexuals "misomofylofilos."
try it out, see if it catches on
Good point!
Also, Islam allows sex with little boys.
How the fuck do they justify hating gay people?
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In Portugal guns are extremely hard to get, like you need a bunch of licenses and medical exams to get one, and if you get one is a hand gun at best. Hunters can have some hunting shotguns, air compressed rifles too (but nothing about assault rifles and shit). You dont see this kind of mass killings on here because people dont have them, simple as that. If you guys think that having guns will mean something for your safety and freedom think twice, those weapons are killing your brothers and sisters every single day!
I couldnt do a better video:
The Daily Show - Gun Control Whoop-de-doo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pOiOhxujsE#)
you're being naive. Gun laws are pretty much the same in France than in Portugal. But any weapon can be smuggled. The Charlie Hebdo and Bataclan attackers had AK47s. Drug dealers in Marseille routinely "settle their differences" with automatic weapons too. I think gun laws in the US are crazy, but again, that's not the only issue.
Yeah, you can get the gun you want, illegaly, which is much harder to get and can get you into lots of trouble. In EUA you go to a shop, buy a rifle and start killing everyone, simple as that. Isnt that scary? I'm not saying that is the only issue, but it is an issue. Do you think EUA laws in France would prevent the tragedy? I think not, and they happen a lot less frequently in here.
we basically agree, man. It's just when you said these mass killings don't happen in Europe, I felt compelled to say something cause my country is still reeling from the attacks. And I'm sure more will be coming.
how can you guys compare portugal (10.5 million people) to america when just one city (NYC) has 8.5 million people?....and also a ban on assault weapons in the state...
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Yes, it absolutely has everything to do with cosmetics. The Federal Assault Weapons Ban (AWB) passed in 1994 banned the sale of assault weapons to American citizens. Since "assault weapon" had no technical meaning, they had to define it. The definition was semi-automatic firearms that shared too many cosmetic features with their fully automatic counterparts. It also banned certain things you could put on your gun because it could start to look too spooo-ooo-oo-ky.
This also included the ban of high capacity magazines. One of the perpetrators of Columbine, Eric Harris, was completely unaffected by the regulation where you could only carry the normal 10-round magazines. He simply brought more of them, 13 magazines in total were found and he fired a total of 96 shots. Then there was the Virginia Tech massacre, which was even worse than Columbine. Cho used 17 magazines and fired 170 rounds. He didn't use any spooky "assault weapons", just two pistols.
In the end, "assault weapons" only accounted for 2% of guns used in the commission of a crime and this was before the ban was put in place. It expired in 2004 and wasn't renewed because it failed to have an impact on gun crime. Derpidy derp.
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I just keep hearing everyone say "AR-15s are semi-automatic, they are not automatic machine gun death sticks blah blah". That's not the fucking point. WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF OWNING AN AR-15?!?! None of you mother fuckers have answered that simple fucking God damn question!
the whole auto/semi auto thing is irrelevant, no one that actually knows how to handle a weapon will shoot automatic, you can be way more efficient with your ammunition and alot more accurate shooting one round at a time.
I live in a place where the probability of actually using a weapon to stop a terror attack is way higher than alot of other places but still, im happy weapons are heavily regulated here. A weapon in untrained hands can cause way more damage than good in alot of scenarios.
you dont want trigger happy people that waited their whole life to take a life legally and be the hero running around the scene of a terror attack.
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Yes, it absolutely has everything to do with cosmetics. The Federal Assault Weapons Ban (AWB) passed in 1994 banned the sale of assault weapons to American citizens. Since "assault weapon" had no technical meaning, they had to define it. The definition was semi-automatic firearms that shared too many cosmetic features with their fully automatic counterparts. It also banned certain things you could put on your gun because it could start to look too spooo-ooo-oo-ky.
This also included the ban of high capacity magazines. One of the perpetrators of Columbine, Eric Harris, was completely unaffected by the regulation where you could only carry the normal 10-round magazines. He simply brought more of them, 13 magazines in total were found and he fired a total of 96 shots. Then there was the Virginia Tech massacre, which was even worse than Columbine. Cho used 17 magazines and fired 170 rounds. He didn't use any spooky "assault weapons", just two pistols.
In the end, "assault weapons" only accounted for 2% of guns used in the commission of a crime and this was before the ban was put in place. It expired in 2004 and wasn't renewed because it failed to have an impact on gun crime. Derpidy derp.
You're a straight up fucking idiot. So it's all cosmetic, not the enhanced lethality of the features and attachments. Silencers and suppressors are really spooky. Bayonets are really spooky. The ar15 was created to kill people more effectively than the m14. that's it. Why does the general public need that?
And good job bringing up VT and columbine, 2 glaring examples of the need for more strict gun control.
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How do all these nutjobs get hold of AK's?
AK47 Full Auto Shooting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCSFuRBXDp0#)
theyre not that hard to get ahold of. my buddy went to a gun show and walked out with a POS chinese made AK for like $200. theyre legal as long as theyre not fully automatic, but i wouldnt doubt that you can do a few quick searches to figured out how to mod it so it is. they also these things called bump stocks for them, and they basically use the recoil to make the gun as automatic as it gets. they probably have them for AR15s too.
Bump Fire Stock for AK 47 / 74 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuAeZpLCJ_E#)
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In Portugal guns are extremely hard to get, like you need a bunch of licenses and medical exams to get one, and if you get one is a hand gun at best. Hunters can have some hunting shotguns, air compressed rifles too (but nothing about assault rifles and shit). You dont see this kind of mass killings on here because people dont have them, simple as that. If you guys think that having guns will mean something for your safety and freedom think twice, those weapons are killing your brothers and sisters every single day!
I couldnt do a better video:
The Daily Show - Gun Control Whoop-de-doo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pOiOhxujsE#)
you're being naive. Gun laws are pretty much the same in France than in Portugal. But any weapon can be smuggled. The Charlie Hebdo and Bataclan attackers had AK47s. Drug dealers in Marseille routinely "settle their differences" with automatic weapons too. I think gun laws in the US are crazy, but again, that's not the only issue.
Yeah, you can get the gun you want, illegaly, which is much harder to get and can get you into lots of trouble. In EUA you go to a shop, buy a rifle and start killing everyone, simple as that. Isnt that scary? I'm not saying that is the only issue, but it is an issue. Do you think EUA laws in France would prevent the tragedy? I think not, and they happen a lot less frequently in here.
we basically agree, man. It's just when you said these mass killings don't happen in Europe, I felt compelled to say something cause my country is still reeling from the attacks. And I'm sure more will be coming.
To Portugal add all the other countries in european union, i'm pretty sure that all of them combined dont have half the homicides that occur in the EUA. There is no such thing as an idiot go out, take a riffle and goes into a mass murder in here. When that happen is crime organizations that are behind it, and those you cant control, because they get guns no mather what, but the population you can control. If a regular person cant get their hands into some assault rifle, semi-automatic, water gun, (i dont give a shit), they simply dont have the weapon to start a mass murder. All the weapons should be checked, not just some of them. You should go through a mental exam, regularly, even if it is for a hand gun, nobody wants those guns in the hands of crazy people. Those things kill more people than protect anyone.
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If I were a betting man, I'd put my money on this dude is queer and hated himself so much he had to kill other gay men who accepted themselves for being gay.
Has this been quoted? Hit it on the head if this whole thing is real.
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^ Well he was registered to a 'gay' site online and I think he had frequented the club b4 so theres a chance.
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Jim Jefferies -- Gun Control (Part 1) from BARE -- Netflix Special (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rR9IaXH1M0#)
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This should be be broadcast for 24hrs on every TV station after one of these shootings :'(
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out of all the late-night talk show "serious" discussions about this situation, this one is the best:
Again? Again. | Full Frontal with Samantha Bee | TBS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t88X1pYQu-I#)
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i wonder how obama would react if someone shot up 100 innocent muslims in america. why does he point out trump going on tv a lot to do interviews when he goes on stupid comedy shows and milks his fame more than any president ever has?
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What the fuck is going on with these people?
Also shout out to the dude who stopped it
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What the fuck is going on with these people?
Also shout out to the dude who stopped it
this is video from 2014
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What the fuck is going on with these people?
Also shout out to the dude who stopped it
Well fuck facebook for click bait articles. I like Conan's response the best though
www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8UKXy5Jw6I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8UKXy5Jw6I#)
Pretty sure someone in this thread was basically saying the same thing so i agree with them as well
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someone spotted him in a documentary
"I reported the find yesterday and Sky News verified with the filmmakers and G4S themselves. I couldn't believe what I was seeing when he first appeared on-screen. Chills."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExIhb5GEqWA
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You're a straight up fucking idiot. So it's all cosmetic, not the enhanced lethality of the features and attachments. Silencers and suppressors are really spooky. Bayonets are really spooky. The ar15 was created to kill people more effectively than the m14. that's it. Why does the general public need that?
And good job bringing up VT and columbine, 2 glaring examples of the need for more strict gun control.
Did I read that wrong earlier when you said you were in the armed forces, yet you just used the words silencer and suppressor as if they're two different things? So your logic is that only the modern day mafia (the police) and the American military industrial complex should be allowed to have any gun of their liking, while the American public should be under stricter gun laws which will still not prevent them from obtaining guns and killing each other. Cultural conditions are the most important factors in a nation's crime rate, not gun laws. Take a good look at the social fabric of this country, there's your answer.
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You're a straight up fucking idiot. So it's all cosmetic, not the enhanced lethality of the features and attachments. Silencers and suppressors are really spooky. Bayonets are really spooky. The ar15 was created to kill people more effectively than the m14. that's it. Why does the general public need that?
And good job bringing up VT and columbine, 2 glaring examples of the need for more strict gun control.
Did I read that wrong earlier when you said you were in the armed forces, yet you just used the words silencer and suppressor as if they're two different things? So your logic is that only the modern day mafia (the police) and the American military industrial complex should be allowed to have any gun of their liking, while the American public should be under stricter gun laws which will still not prevent them from obtaining guns and killing each other. Cultural conditions are the most important factors in a nation's crime rate, not gun laws. Take a good look at the social fabric of this country, there's your answer.
I didn't read passed your silencer comment. We don't use them, but here fuckhead.
http://www.gunsandammo.com/gear-accessories/suppressors/suppressors-arent-silencers/ (http://www.gunsandammo.com/gear-accessories/suppressors/suppressors-arent-silencers/)
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How do all these nutjobs get hold of AK's?
AK47 Full Auto Shooting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCSFuRBXDp0#)
over here in Europe things have changed dramatically with the fall of the Soviet Union and the war in Yugoslavia. A lot of military weapons are smuggled in since then. It's all the more easy as countries who used to be part of the eastern block are now EU member states. you can get an AK 47 fairly cheap in French projects and they are used routinely in bank robberies or fights between rival drug dealers....it's even become a fashion accessory/status symbol for some French rappers. I really see no short-term solution.
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Yes, I know that a lot of AK's are sold on the black market. I was under the impression that Americans who put videos on Youtube with fully automatic rifles own them legally. Am I just plain wrong or are you allowed to own them in the states?
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Yes, I know that a lot of AK's are sold on the black market. I was under the impression that Americans who put videos on Youtube with fully automatic rifles own them legally. Am I just plain wrong or are you allowed to own them in the states?
https://thearmsguide.com/2349/full-auto-is-legal/
^ seems to answer your question.
thats not to say that people dont go out and mod semi automatic guns so they shoot fully automatic. ive never shot one, but i know people who own illegal ones. the people on youtube could own guns that predate 1986 or have other legal ways of owning them, but i wouldnt be surprised if most of them were illegal. ive spent a lot of time at the gun club and met hundreds of people who own guns and ive never met anyone who owned a legal fully automatic gun.
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Yes, I know that a lot of AK's are sold on the black market. I was under the impression that Americans who put videos on Youtube with fully automatic rifles own them legally. Am I just plain wrong or are you allowed to own them in the states?
Pretty sure you can only own a semi auto AK. A friend of mine had one he purchased legally(semi-auto). Its when they get converted to full auto that thy're considered weapons of mass destruction. The sale of them may be outlawed at this point This was years ago and I'm not looking into buying one so not sure
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You're a straight up fucking idiot. So it's all cosmetic, not the enhanced lethality of the features and attachments. Silencers and suppressors are really spooky. Bayonets are really spooky. The ar15 was created to kill people more effectively than the m14. that's it. Why does the general public need that?
And good job bringing up VT and columbine, 2 glaring examples of the need for more strict gun control.
Did I read that wrong earlier when you said you were in the armed forces, yet you just used the words silencer and suppressor as if they're two different things? So your logic is that only the modern day mafia (the police) and the American military industrial complex should be allowed to have any gun of their liking, while the American public should be under stricter gun laws which will still not prevent them from obtaining guns and killing each other. Cultural conditions are the most important factors in a nation's crime rate, not gun laws. Take a good look at the social fabric of this country, there's your answer.
http://www.gunsandammo.com/gear-accessories/suppressors/suppressors-arent-silencers/ (http://www.gunsandammo.com/gear-accessories/suppressors/suppressors-arent-silencers/)
Yes you did, you just can't argue with logic and reason. Silencer and suppressor are two different words for the same thing. Some will say one is the correct term over the other, that's all. You said it as if they're two different physical objects. When you're not on Warcraft I can imagine you walking around in Walmart pretending to be a soldier like the people you see in stolen valor videos lol. Have a nice day.
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Jesus Christ... I just read that modern day mafia comment.
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Jesus Christ... I just read that modern day mafia comment.
There's places you can go to that help you learn how to read better.
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Jesus Christ... I just read that modern day mafia comment.
There's places you can go to that help you learn how to read better.
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A used AT4 is pretty much a plastic tube with a thin metal insert... It's about as scary as a PVC pipe. The reason you know it's used is that the plastic caps on the front and back are white, instead of black.
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Turns out he was most likely a plain old Islamic terrorist, not a closeted gay man with an inexplicable hatred of Puerto Ricans.
"FBI investigators say they have found no evidence that Orlando shooter had gay lovers"
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-orlando-gay-fbi-20160623-snap-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-orlando-gay-fbi-20160623-snap-story.html)
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why did they put that anonymous guy in special makeup ? this is a tragedy, not a jackass skit. why didn't they put him in low lighting or pixel him? i'm not a conspiracy person, but that was just really odd...especially since they made him look so weird
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why did they put that anonymous guy in special makeup ? this is a tragedy, not a jackass skit. why didn't they put him in low lighting or pixel him? i'm not a conspiracy person, but that was just really odd...especially since they made him look so weird
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the whole thing has been really bizarre. in some of the earliest reports, before they knew jack shit about what was happening, it was said he's probably gay. in the following days, he supposedly had some bitter feelings toward Puerto Ricans because he'd been rejected by them so many times. there was even a Puerto Rican woman claiming he stalked her but when she was telling her story, it was kinda weird and unbelievable. I don't want to downplay her victimization if it happened but the media coverage of this hasn't added up completely.
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Turns out he was most likely a plain old Islamic terrorist, not a closeted gay man with an inexplicable hatred of Puerto Ricans.
"FBI investigators say they have found no evidence that Orlando shooter had gay lovers"
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-orlando-gay-fbi-20160623-snap-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-orlando-gay-fbi-20160623-snap-story.html)
I dunno... not convinced. If he was indeed a conflicted homosexual, deleting his secret life before becoming some kind of martyr for god seems to be expected.