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Skateboarding => Skate Questions => Topic started by: Andmoreagain on October 13, 2016, 12:22:34 PM
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I just can't seem to get it. After 10 years of skating and 5 years of skating a lot I've sort of accepted i'll always be a transition guy, but goddamn it I want this fucking trick. I've tried all sorts of tricks and tips, and there have been a few that got me closer to my goal, but no matter what, I seem to have two main problems:
1. I flip the board perfectly but it lands a bit behind me, with my back foot on the middle of the deck and my front in front of the nose
2. I land with the board beneath my feet but upside down.
I kind of alternate between these two, with a few flubs in between.
I've dedicated my lunch breaks to learning this trick, so I'll be doing it a lot, leme hear your best advice, tips, trick tip videos, shit talking, whatever. Anything helps.
Note: I'm currently riding a 9" popsicle, but I don't think that should be a problem, as I've had the same 3flip issues on all sizes from 8 to 9. I can kickflip this thing just fine.
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If it's landing behind you, you're jumping forward while doing it. When I do them all my back foot does is scoop, and my front foot tosses out the flick and points the board where I want it to go. You can really see what I'm talking about if you watch Kalis or BA do them in slo mo. Front foot is in control of the whole thing and you'll see their board come up to meet it. When you land on it but upside down, if it does a half flip you aren't flicking hard enough and if it's 1.5 flips you're flicking too hard (duh). That's down to where you place your front foot for the flick, higher on the board will flip slower/less and lower down will flip faster/more.
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I'm having the exact same issue as OP, that and sometimes it lands right in front of me but I can't get my front foot on in time. I'll take your advice shit_for_brains and see what happens
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I'm having the exact same issue as OP, that and sometimes it lands right in front of me but I can't get my front foot on in time. I'll take your advice shit_for_brains and see what happens
Not getting your front foot on means you're probably pivoting your hips or opening your shoulders up after you pop. Do you land with kind of wide posture when that happens?
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Landed one along time ago up a nice big euro gap. Perfect flip, rotational angle, BAM, front foot catch that shit, BAM, land that shit perfect.
Never tried one again, it will never feel as good as that one. But euro gaps or ramps help me, I can get hang time and actually see what my bodys doing. And going up at an angle it feels more natural for your front foot and for the board to come up to it.
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I'm having the exact same issue as OP, that and sometimes it lands right in front of me but I can't get my front foot on in time. I'll take your advice shit_for_brains and see what happens
Not getting your front foot on means you're probably pivoting your hips or opening your shoulders up after you pop. Do you land with kind of wide posture when that happens?
Sort of yeah, I have a bad habit turning everything a little frontside so I always have to consciously keep my shoulders straight and shit
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it's all in the scoop. figure that out and you'll get it.
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^^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcRCqY2r92E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcRCqY2r92E#)
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ive landed this trick 3 times in my life. i cant get the flip right. i can either get it to spin all the way round with no flip at all, or get it to flip, but have the board only spin 270. it really feels like each foot is working against the other when i try.
my problem is my front foot i think. ive had a lot of people tell me its all in the scoop, and i can scoop the hell out of it, but it just does a 3 shuv. if i try a 3 shuv on purpose, it flips half way though.
whats kind of funny is that my nephew has a penny board and i can 360 flip pretty easily on that. 1-3 tries and ill get one.
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'I can't 360 Flip'
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/930/865/5bf.jpg)
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360 flips are for jocks
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I'm just starting to get these now and I think the key is the toe hook.....it almost gets under the tail in the corner and turns the board upward....
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Yup. Gorilla grip that back corner with your toes and don't forget to at least kick out your front foot. I mob a lot, but once I can get that front foot moving, the stars align and I land a lottery flip.
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The obvious it's all in the back foot but also what's overlooked is weight distribution. There's a sweet spot that you will just feel once you get it. Also go faster.
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The obvious it's all in the back foot but also what's overlooked is weight distribution. There's a sweet spot that you will just feel once you get it. Also go faster.
More weight on the front foot or back?
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i suck dog balls at 3 flips but even my foolish ass knows it's all in the scoop son, all in the scoop
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I have em good then I loose em. It's cyclical like the moon & women's periods. When I'm having troubles I can usually turn around & do em fakie (less scoop & more of a pop shove it pop) then ride away backwards.
After a day/wk/whatever they'll be hitting regular again. So don't stress if someone else checked 360 flip out the library, just read a similar book til they return it
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I have em good then I loose em. It's cyclical like the moon & women's periods. When I'm having troubles I can usually turn around & do em fakie (less scoop & more of a pop shove it pop) then ride away backwards.
After a day/wk/whatever they'll be hitting regular again. So don't stress if someone else checked 360 flip out the library, just read a similar book til they return it
this. i had a long period of shitty treflips with the board hitting the ground mid-rotation, couldn't pop them more, and now they're back and feel even greater since i ride 149s...mystic stuff...
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I stopped doing this trick after seeing way too many stank leg yo flippers...i learned it by getting my 360 shove its then adding the flick from my kickflips
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i suck dog balls at 3 flips but even my foolish ass knows it's all in the scoop son, all in the scoop
I'm fantastic at them and I know it's not all in the scoop.
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The obvious it's all in the back foot but also what's overlooked is weight distribution. There's a sweet spot that you will just feel once you get it. Also go faster.
I still can't get them, but I was messing around today and got really close when I put the most of my weight (like a 70/30 distribution, maybe more) over my back leg and crouched towards the left a little (I'm goofy). It seemed to help with my problem of either landing on the nose or with my right foot off to the side.
Is that right or was I just getting lucky?
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it's mostly in the scoop, but the front foot applies pressure, guides/flips the board, and catches it. common error with the backfoot is to (regular footed) scoop 9 o'clock. you need to scoop 7 o'clock. this along with 50/50 weight distribution keeps the board under you instead of behind. it also pops the board up to that front foot like a pop shove.
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The obvious it's all in the back foot but also what's overlooked is weight distribution. There's a sweet spot that you will just feel once you get it. Also go faster.
I still can't get them, but I was messing around today and got really close when I put the most of my weight (like a 70/30 distribution, maybe more) over my back leg and crouched towards the left a little (I'm goofy). It seemed to help with my problem of either landing on the nose or with my right foot off to the side.
Is that right or was I just getting lucky?
I'm just realizing I chronically lean forward on everything.....so I lean back.....this is why they are easier to flip fakie too....you're weight is already back....
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I've only landed 3. Two on flat, one off a long/tall three set.
Can kickflip.
Can variel flip.
Can 360 shuv/pop shuv.
All the ingredients are there.
From everything I've read/watched, keep the shoulders parallel, stay centered and it's all in the rear foot and the scoop.
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scoop flick catch BANG
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scoop flick catch BANG
so thaaaaaat the secret. this whole time i was forgetting the BANG!
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How's that "it's all the back foot I swear" going for all you guys who can't do them but continue to bang your head against the wall because it isn't all in the back foot and that's why you can't do them?
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so thaaaaaat the secret. this whole time i was forgetting the BANG!
its all in the BANG bro(s)
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How's that "it's all the back foot I swear" going for all you guys who can't do them but continue to bang your head against the wall because it isn't all in the back foot and that's why you can't do them?
Thats the easy way.
Proper 360 flips I ride so it spins a lil more than 360. And the pop is more like popping a high pop shove but a faster motion.
If anyone is wondering what im talking about watch kakis 360 flips.
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How's that "it's all the back foot I swear" going for all you guys who can't do them but continue to bang your head against the wall because it isn't all in the back foot and that's why you can't do them?
My last couple sessions I've thought about this and have actually been landing 360 flips better, so thanks!
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How's that "it's all the back foot I swear" going for all you guys who can't do them but continue to bang your head against the wall because it isn't all in the back foot and that's why you can't do them?
My last couple sessions I've thought about this and have actually been landing 360 flips better, so thanks!
My man.
Everyone says to look at Kalis for the importance of the back foot, but if you can't land them look at Bobby Worrest for the importance of the front foot. If it's too low on your board it'll spin out and away from you. Up high but not pointed and it won't flip all the way.
Bobby. Worrest. His switch one off the curb in his latest part is a prime example.
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How's that "it's all the back foot I swear" going for all you guys who can't do them but continue to bang your head against the wall because it isn't all in the back foot and that's why you can't do them?
My last couple sessions I've thought about this and have actually been landing 360 flips better, so thanks!
My man.
Everyone says to look at Kalis for the importance of the back foot, but if you can't land them look at Bobby Worrest for the importance of the front foot. If it's too low on your board it'll spin out and away from you. Up high but not pointed and it won't flip all the way.
Bobby. Worrest. His switch one off the curb in his latest part is a prime example.
I hear ya!
But kalis is NOT all in the backfoot(even though he says it is) its clearly not.
When your back foot is in the pocket you dont even flick the front foot. It almost flips naturally.
He clearly flicks hard and sweeps hard.
Worrest is a great example, as is jovantae, and jeremy wray
Look at wade desarmo, hes uses the "backfoot scoop" method. Still looks good on him but not on most others
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Getting a good scoop in that pocket of your board is obviously super important, but if you don't get a good kick forward it won't be guided to stay under you. When I was just focusing on the scoop it would always spin a perfect tre but in front of me instead of under.
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here's your golden ticket:
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Got a good tip at the park today: Point your back toes perpendicular to your board. Immediately landed 3 of em.
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Got a good tip at the park today: Point your back toes perpendicular to your board. Immediately landed 3 of em.
still haven't landed one but that tip really helped. Kinda weird to figure out with a square tail but once you do it feels a lot better
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i can