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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: Ineffable Epoch on October 28, 2016, 09:18:15 AM
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May have been discussed tons of times, but feel free to enlight me.
It was started on 2006 by Dill and Ave? Both or just Dill? They started producing boards on 2013?
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I remember downloading some nice mixtapes off their site like 10yrs ago.
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Dill started it as a clothing endeavor about 15 years ago.
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Dill started it as a clothing endeavor about 15 years ago.
Cool. So you know when AVE started as co-owner?
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hulk hogans graphic designer
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Dill started it as a brand to produce all-over print hoodies in stupid colours in the early 2000s. I remember him wearing FA stuff in Skate More and probably The Osbournes.
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Jason Dill and Mike Piscitelli. It's been around since the early 2000's.
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Dill started it as a clothing endeavor about 15 years ago.
Cool. So you know when AVE started as co-owner?
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Around this time on Worshop it was pretty clear to invest on the whole FA concept. And here we are today with that brand/team. ;)
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Sean Pablo's mami is involved
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Slappies:
Oh yeah I remember thinking those Skate More-era Fucking Awesome all-over print hoodies were the coolest at the time
Bad call on my part. Good thing I was a broke teenager at the time.
But yeah, as far as I know, it was a really small-run t-shirt and clothing company, starting in the early 2000s.
I think my first exposure to it was in old Epicly Later'd blog posts from around that time, and I wanted that shit so bad.
And then, like you were saying, they started a board brand in 2013 or whatever, and that was my first time hearing about AVE being involved really, but I could be wrong.
Writing this, it occurs to me how weird it is, that FA is a project that has been growing/building hype for over a decade, before becoming a skate company. There's probably some other examples of similar things, but I can't think of anything really. (JT hyping Zero as a clothing company, while on Toy?)
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Skate Mental start off as some sort of blog post thing through Crailtap? I remember being aware of it before it was ever actually a board company. HUF is somewhat similar, starting as a shop/clothing thing before becoming a full on shoe company. They made those DIE HIPPIE SCUM shirts people were running for a while.
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Yeah, I dunno about Skate Mental, but the Huf comparison is a good call.
If you have the time and patience to play the long game, it's a solid way to already have interest and demand in your company, as soon as it really launches.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Skate Mental start off as some sort of blog post thing through Crailtap? I remember being aware of it before it was ever actually a board company. HUF is somewhat similar, starting as a shop/clothing thing before becoming a full on shoe company. They made those DIE HIPPIE SCUM shirts people were running for a while.
Skate Mental was a t-shirt brand originally, and done through Crailtap.
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HUF was a shoe shop clothing brand. It wasn't a full line and mostly just shirts that went with shoes drops that HUF did. A lot of it was just shirts, sweatshirts and hats (new eras) which almost every other shop did when the SB craze was huge. It is pretty crazy to see where they are now though considering things. Their catalog is huge every season and I swear I don't know who buys their shit.
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Fat albert
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while we're on the subject of general questions regarding FA: does anyone know who the artist was for that FA ad where there's a kid sniffing airplane glue all zoned out and there's like a wasteland-type scene in the background? I saw it in a thrasher a pretty good while ago.
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Doom Sayers kind of went with the clothing hype pre hardgoods thing. They still don't officially have a team but it sounds like this is what Omar's going for.
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paul did the same thing with primitive
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Yeah, I guess I meant not to such a degree/ for such a long length of time, but good examples
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while we're on the subject of general questions regarding FA: does anyone know who the artist was for that FA ad where there's a kid sniffing airplane glue all zoned out and there's like a wasteland-type scene in the background?� I saw it in a thrasher a pretty good while ago.
(http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.php?40,file=122187,filename=robertwilliams.jpg)
Robert Williams, he did the Appetite for Destruction cover for Guns N' Roses too.
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I vaguely recall a Tim O'Connor Savier advert where has "skate mental" on his grip tape.
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FA is only doing one more year before dill pulls the plug when he realizes how corny its gotten. Free Max b
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It's strangely difficult to find the FA website.
This is not it: www.fuckingawesome.com (http://www.fuckingawesome.com)
It's pretty funny, though.
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Fxing etnies
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I had no idea that FA has been around for that long. Early 2000s?
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anyone here know about the lawsuit that aj zavalas uncle is in with dill? supposedly he bit it off of a surfing company his uncle owned but that all I've heard about it
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FA is only doing one more year before dill pulls the plug when he realizes how corny its gotten. Free Max b
naw, FA sells out like crazy
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I have a brand new set of size 10's if anyone's looking
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I vaguely recall a Tim O'Connor Savier advert where has "skate mental" on his grip tape.
Wasn't there a Savier Australia tour that was called "skate mental"? I remember reading that in a Skateboarder mag a long time ago. Stefan was on that tour as well I think
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I'm pretty sure I read an article about difficult to work with skateboarders and when etnies asked Dill for a picture for an ad to promote this shoe he jizzed on the shoes took a picture of them coated and sent it to them!
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I heard a story about a very popular pro who?when he was designing his pro shoe?sent the sample back to the company and it was covered in his jizz. That was his comment on the design. Jizz. Dried cum all over the shoe that was going to have his name on it. It might be a bullshit rumor, but I know skaters some photographers refuse to shoot because they?re such pains in the ass to deal with.
http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2013/12/13/10-articles-you-wont-read-in-a-skate-mag-anytime-soon/ (http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2013/12/13/10-articles-you-wont-read-in-a-skate-mag-anytime-soon/)
Followed by a picture of Dill.
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Dill and AVE have a silent partner.
He (they/whatever) are the financial backing for FA.
Financial backing guy came in as LaJolla Group/AWS deal was going to shit.
AVE and Dill needed the financing support to get the deal off the ground.
Intellectual property was there, just needed the start up capital.
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HUF was a shoe shop clothing brand. It wasn't a full line and mostly just shirts that went with shoes drops that HUF did. A lot of it was just shirts, sweatshirts and hats (new eras) which almost every other shop did when the SB craze was huge. It is pretty crazy to see where they are now though considering things. Their catalog is huge every season and I swear I don't know who buys their shit.
I buy their shoes. I have been since 2014. Who knows though....the newer catalogs are a bit unimpressive. But the Huf rep has sent me shoes, such as Rieder slip ons and classics.
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Even Zero was a clothing company first. What I'm saying is, if you run a skate team and the guy who doesn't quite fit in launches a clothing brand, either make friends with him, for a rainy day, or do him a favor and kick him out.
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I know every Supreme/FA kid going to kook me for saying this but I always thought clothing that blatantly says fuck seems to try to hard to be edgy. The "Fuck The Rest" Indy jackets, Fucking Awesome... Reminds me of those juggalo/goth fat people you'd see in the 90's with that shirt that said "FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING FUCK"... Like oooh you guys must be hard. That's just me though.
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I vaguely recall a Tim O'Connor Savier advert where has "skate mental" on his grip tape.
Wasn't there a Savier Australia tour that was called "skate mental"? I remember reading that in a Skateboarder mag a long time ago. Stefan was on that tour as well I think
Wasn't it 'skate = mental' written on his board? Staba rode for Savier too.
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I heard a story about a very popular pro who?when he was designing his pro shoe?sent the sample back to the company and it was covered in his jizz. That was his comment on the design. Jizz. Dried cum all over the shoe that was going to have his name on it. It might be a bullshit rumor, but I know skaters some photographers refuse to shoot because they?re such pains in the ass to deal with.
http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2013/12/13/10-articles-you-wont-read-in-a-skate-mag-anytime-soon/ (http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2013/12/13/10-articles-you-wont-read-in-a-skate-mag-anytime-soon/)
Followed by a picture of Dill.
You should check that article again. The Dill photo accompanies the "Gay" paragraph. You can tell bc Ziggy is grabbing his crotch. Forrest goes with the terrible person article
Not that the jizz thing doesn't sound like a Dill thing
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I heard a story about a very popular pro who?when he was designing his pro shoe?sent the sample back to the company and it was covered in his jizz. That was his comment on the design. Jizz. Dried cum all over the shoe that was going to have his name on it. It might be a bullshit rumor, but I know skaters some photographers refuse to shoot because they?re such pains in the ass to deal with.
http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2013/12/13/10-articles-you-wont-read-in-a-skate-mag-anytime-soon/ (http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2013/12/13/10-articles-you-wont-read-in-a-skate-mag-anytime-soon/)
Followed by a picture of Dill.
You should check that article again. The Dill photo accompanies the "Gay" paragraph. You can tell bc Ziggy is grabbing his crotch. Forrest goes with the terrible person article
Not that the jizz thing doesn't sound like a Dill thing
Lol at the last one of the list
10. The plan B video is out
Just kidding, but seriously. Your favorite pro will come out of the closet sooner than this video
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I know every Supreme/FA kid going to kook me for saying this but I always thought clothing that blatantly says fuck seems to try to hard to be edgy. The "Fuck The Rest" Indy jackets, Fucking Awesome... Reminds me of those juggalo/goth fat people you'd see in the 90's with that shirt that said "FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING FUCK"... Like oooh you guys must be hard. That's just me though.
i highly doubt thats what Dill intended at first. there was some japanese interview with him talking about the brand a few years back and I think its more along the line of something to be excited about rather than be edgy. These days however is definitely more on the edgy attempt though.
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I saw some Facebook video about a month ago and it was some language scholar saying fuck is one of the most important words in the english language because it can mean so many different things and is used in a variety of different contexts. I agree and disagree at the same time, but it's pretty interesting to think about it. Side note: I caught myself tripping last night think about Dylan passing. Strobeck's post this morning was amazing...rip...
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I heard a story about a very popular pro who?when he was designing his pro shoe?sent the sample back to the company and it was covered in his jizz. That was his comment on the design. Jizz. Dried cum all over the shoe that was going to have his name on it. It might be a bullshit rumor, but I know skaters some photographers refuse to shoot because they?re such pains in the ass to deal with.
http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2013/12/13/10-articles-you-wont-read-in-a-skate-mag-anytime-soon/ (http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2013/12/13/10-articles-you-wont-read-in-a-skate-mag-anytime-soon/)
Followed by a picture of Dill.
You should check that article again. The Dill photo accompanies the "Gay" paragraph. You can tell bc Ziggy is grabbing his crotch. Forrest goes with the terrible person article
Not that the jizz thing doesn't sound like a Dill thing
Nah nah, I got that. Just thought it was funny that the picture was below it.
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HUF was a shoe shop clothing brand. It wasn't a full line and mostly just shirts that went with shoes drops that HUF did. A lot of it was just shirts, sweatshirts and hats (new eras) which almost every other shop did when the SB craze was huge. It is pretty crazy to see where they are now though considering things. Their catalog is huge every season and I swear I don't know who buys their shit.
I buy their shoes. I have been since 2014. Who knows though....the newer catalogs are a bit unimpressive. But the Huf rep has sent me shoes, such as Rieder slip ons and classics.
Seconded. I own a pair of the Choice and Classic Hi. Both solid shoes, gonna keep buying from them. I also own a hat and a shirt from them fwiw.
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I heard a story about a very popular pro who?when he was designing his pro shoe?sent the sample back to the company and it was covered in his jizz. That was his comment on the design. Jizz. Dried cum all over the shoe that was going to have his name on it. It might be a bullshit rumor, but I know skaters some photographers refuse to shoot because they?re such pains in the ass to deal with.
http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2013/12/13/10-articles-you-wont-read-in-a-skate-mag-anytime-soon/ (http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2013/12/13/10-articles-you-wont-read-in-a-skate-mag-anytime-soon/)
Followed by a picture of Dill.
You should check that article again. The Dill photo accompanies the "Gay" paragraph. You can tell bc Ziggy is grabbing his crotch. Forrest goes with the terrible person article
Not that the jizz thing doesn't sound like a Dill thing
Vans eventually did release that Dime collab... so maybe there's a kernel of truth to this.
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what does that have to do with anything?
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Whenever I look at this thread I see " who FA rted" instead of who started FA
Am I dyslexic?
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Dill and AVE have a silent partner.
He (they/whatever) are the financial backing for FA.
Financial backing guy came in as LaJolla Group/AWS deal was going to shit.
AVE and Dill needed the financing support to get the deal off the ground.
Intellectual property was there, just needed the start up capital.
I'd say the silent partner is supreme?
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Dill and AVE have a silent partner.
He (they/whatever) are the financial backing for FA.
Financial backing guy came in as LaJolla Group/AWS deal was going to shit.
AVE and Dill needed the financing support to get the deal off the ground.
Intellectual property was there, just needed the start up capital.
I'd say the silent partner is supreme?
Nah, its not James.
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Quote pulled from Jenkem article regarding above claim:
I heard a story about a very popular pro who?when he was designing his pro shoe?sent the sample back to the company and it was covered in his jizz. That was his comment on the design. Jizz. Dried cum all over the shoe that was going to have his name on it. It might be a bullshit rumor, but I know skaters some photographers refuse to shoot because they?re such pains in the ass to deal with.
http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2013/12/13/10-articles-you-wont-read-in-a-skate-mag-anytime-soon/ (http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2013/12/13/10-articles-you-wont-read-in-a-skate-mag-anytime-soon/)
Followed by a picture of Dill.
Maybe said person just "really" like the shoes.
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Quote pulled from Jenkem article regarding above claim:
I heard a story about a very popular pro who?when he was designing his pro shoe?sent the sample back to the company and it was covered in his jizz. That was his comment on the design. Jizz. Dried cum all over the shoe that was going to have his name on it. It might be a bullshit rumor, but I know skaters some photographers refuse to shoot because they?re such pains in the ass to deal with.
http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2013/12/13/10-articles-you-wont-read-in-a-skate-mag-anytime-soon/ (http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2013/12/13/10-articles-you-wont-read-in-a-skate-mag-anytime-soon/)
Followed by a picture of Dill.
You should check that article again. The Dill photo accompanies the "Gay" paragraph. You can tell bc Ziggy is grabbing his crotch. Forrest goes with the terrible person article
Not that the jizz thing doesn't sound like a Dill thing
Nah nah, I got that. Just thought it was funny that the picture was below it.
Ode to Dash Snow. Free Max b
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Quote pulled from Jenkem article regarding above claim:
I heard a story about a very popular pro who?when he was designing his pro shoe?sent the sample back to the company and it was covered in his jizz. That was his comment on the design. Jizz. Dried cum all over the shoe that was going to have his name on it. It might be a bullshit rumor, but I know skaters some photographers refuse to shoot because they?re such pains in the ass to deal with.
http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2013/12/13/10-articles-you-wont-read-in-a-skate-mag-anytime-soon/ (http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2013/12/13/10-articles-you-wont-read-in-a-skate-mag-anytime-soon/)
Followed by a picture of Dill.
not out of character at all if you ask me ;)
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Even Zero was a clothing company first. What I'm saying is, if you run a skate team and the guy who doesn't quite fit in launches a clothing brand, either make friends with him, for a rainy day, or do him a favor and kick him out.
No it wasn't. I think you're thinking of Zero Sophisto.
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Even Zero was a clothing company first. What I'm saying is, if you run a skate team and the guy who doesn't quite fit in launches a clothing brand, either make friends with him, for a rainy day, or do him a favor and kick him out.
No it wasn't. I think you're thinking of Zero Sophisto.
No he's thinking of Zero, it was 100% a softgoods brand first.
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Even Zero was a clothing company first. What I'm saying is, if you run a skate team and the guy who doesn't quite fit in launches a clothing brand, either make friends with him, for a rainy day, or do him a favor and kick him out.
No it wasn't. I think you're thinking of Zero Sophisto.
actually, he IS kinda right.
Borrowing half a name from ex-sponsor Zero Sophisto clothing (with Owner Andy Howell?s blessing), Thomas approached Tum Yeto Owner Tod Swank with an idea for a company.
Read more at http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/products/from-zero-to-black-box/#FABwtcoDqy1WAqZL.99 (http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/products/from-zero-to-black-box/#FABwtcoDqy1WAqZL.99)
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Even Zero was a clothing company first. What I'm saying is, if you run a skate team and the guy who doesn't quite fit in launches a clothing brand, either make friends with him, for a rainy day, or do him a favor and kick him out.
No it wasn't. I think you're thinking of Zero Sophisto.
actually, he IS kinda right.
Borrowing half a name from ex-sponsor Zero Sophisto clothing (with Owner Andy Howell?s blessing), Thomas approached Tum Yeto Owner Tod Swank with an idea for a company.
Read more at http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/products/from-zero-to-black-box/#FABwtcoDqy1WAqZL.99 (http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/products/from-zero-to-black-box/#FABwtcoDqy1WAqZL.99)
From that article I learned that Innes was Matt Hensley clothing brand. :D
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Even Zero was a clothing company first. What I'm saying is, if you run a skate team and the guy who doesn't quite fit in launches a clothing brand, either make friends with him, for a rainy day, or do him a favor and kick him out.
No it wasn't. I think you're thinking of Zero Sophisto.
actually, he IS kinda right.
Borrowing half a name from ex-sponsor Zero Sophisto clothing (with Owner Andy Howell?s blessing), Thomas approached Tum Yeto Owner Tod Swank with an idea for a company.
Read more at http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/products/from-zero-to-black-box/#FABwtcoDqy1WAqZL.99 (http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/products/from-zero-to-black-box/#FABwtcoDqy1WAqZL.99)
From that article I learned that Innes was Matt Hensley clothing brand. :D
yup, and it ruled. i still have a few innes shirts.
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Jason Dill and Mike Piscitelli
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Even Zero was a clothing company first. What I'm saying is, if you run a skate team and the guy who doesn't quite fit in launches a clothing brand, either make friends with him, for a rainy day, or do him a favor and kick him out.
No it wasn't. I think you're thinking of Zero Sophisto.
actually, he IS kinda right.
Borrowing half a name from ex-sponsor Zero Sophisto clothing (with Owner Andy Howell?s blessing), Thomas approached Tum Yeto Owner Tod Swank with an idea for a company.
Read more at http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/products/from-zero-to-black-box/#FABwtcoDqy1WAqZL.99 (http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/products/from-zero-to-black-box/#FABwtcoDqy1WAqZL.99)
From that article I learned that Innes was Matt Hensley clothing brand. :D
yup, and it ruled. i still have a few innes shirts.
Innes did rule and the first person officially on zero was Wade Burkitt.
I had a red zero shirt (their first run no?) long before it was a board company. Those shirts were terribly timed though as you had to talked to every 3rd grunge fan boy/ girl who stopped you in the street and was like "you like the smashing pumpkins too?" >:(
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I heard a story about a very popular pro who?when he was designing his pro shoe?sent the sample back to the company and it was covered in his jizz. That was his comment on the design. Jizz. Dried cum all over the shoe that was going to have his name on it. It might be a bullshit rumor, but I know skaters some photographers refuse to shoot because they?re such pains in the ass to deal with.
http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2013/12/13/10-articles-you-wont-read-in-a-skate-mag-anytime-soon/ (http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2013/12/13/10-articles-you-wont-read-in-a-skate-mag-anytime-soon/)
Followed by a picture of Dill.
You should check that article again. The Dill photo accompanies the "Gay" paragraph. You can tell bc Ziggy is grabbing his crotch. Forrest goes with the terrible person article
Not that the jizz thing doesn't sound like a Dill thing
Nah nah, I got that. Just thought it was funny that the picture was below it.
People have been pissing shitting and cumming on canvases or flags or whatever way before Dash (RIP)... That's another Dill thing I think is whack. Always gotta name drop... Shit IRAK is upstream yo
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Even Zero was a clothing company first. What I'm saying is, if you run a skate team and the guy who doesn't quite fit in launches a clothing brand, either make friends with him, for a rainy day, or do him a favor and kick him out.
No it wasn't. I think you're thinking of Zero Sophisto.
actually, he IS kinda right.
Borrowing half a name from ex-sponsor Zero Sophisto clothing (with Owner Andy Howell?s blessing), Thomas approached Tum Yeto Owner Tod Swank with an idea for a company.
Read more at http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/products/from-zero-to-black-box/#FABwtcoDqy1WAqZL.99 (http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/products/from-zero-to-black-box/#FABwtcoDqy1WAqZL.99)
From that article I learned that Innes was Matt Hensley clothing brand. :D
yup, and it ruled. i still have a few innes shirts.
I had a red zero shirt (their first run no?) long before it was a board company. Those shirts were terribly timed though as you had to talked to every 3rd grunge fan boy/ girl who stopped you in the street and was like "you like the smashing pumpkins too?" >:(
wasn't a stipulation of Wade getting on that Ellington be put on too?
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I saw some Facebook video about a month ago and it was some language scholar saying fuck is one of the most important words in the english language because it can mean so many different things and is used in a variety of different contexts. I agree and disagree at the same time, but it's pretty interesting to think about it. Side note: I caught myself tripping last night think about Dylan passing. Strobeck's post this morning was amazing...rip...
thats just a bored professor who wanted to say "Fuck" a bunch of times in front of some students.
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There's definitely a ton of interesting discussions and articles, relating to the use, role, etymology and status of curse words
At the same time, when teacher's sneak in a swear or two, either for shock value, or just to show "they're down", it's always hella lame
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Jason Dill and Mike Piscitelli
Started in 2000 by Dill and Mikey in NYC. It was just a that fucking awesome graphic t-shirt and an all-over print hoodie. They had connections in Japan and basically sold the shit out of it in Japan for years and it was really hard to get it in the USA. The whole idea was making fun of streetwear at the time cause the name is so incredibly stupid..
Mike is the silent partner. He's a pretty big fashion photographer. They took a hiatus for a minute and then were under freshjive distribution for a few seasons then broke off... once Alien failed dill and mikey decided to make it a skateboard brand and brought in AVE as a third partner. Now go tell your friends and pretend like you knew all along...
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I took a summer racial issues class taught by a 70 year old hippie white woman who dropped hard N's every class
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Ha yeah I forgot they got really big in Japan to start things off
I think Jason Dill in 2016 is pretty annoying really, but he really has had a ridiculous career
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just remember this from mind field
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I took a summer racial issues class taught by a 70 year old hippie white woman who dropped hard N's every class
I took the same class?!
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Jason Dill and Mike Piscitelli
Started in 2000 by Dill and Mikey in NYC. It was just a that fucking awesome graphic t-shirt and an all-over print hoodie. They had connections in Japan and basically sold the shit out of it in Japan for years and it was really hard to get it in the USA. The whole idea was making fun of streetwear at the time cause the name is so incredibly stupid..
I am not sure what your definition of "sold the shit out of it in Japan" is; it wasn't exactly huge here at any point (maybe a few heads here and there...).
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Even Zero was a clothing company first. What I'm saying is, if you run a skate team and the guy who doesn't quite fit in launches a clothing brand, either make friends with him, for a rainy day, or do him a favor and kick him out.
No it wasn't. I think you're thinking of Zero Sophisto.
actually, he IS kinda right.
Borrowing half a name from ex-sponsor Zero Sophisto clothing (with Owner Andy Howell?s blessing), Thomas approached Tum Yeto Owner Tod Swank with an idea for a company.
Read more at http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/products/from-zero-to-black-box/#FABwtcoDqy1WAqZL.99 (http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/products/from-zero-to-black-box/#FABwtcoDqy1WAqZL.99)
From that article I learned that Innes was Matt Hensley clothing brand. :D
yup, and it ruled. i still have a few innes shirts.
I had a red zero shirt (their first run no?) long before it was a board company. Those shirts were terribly timed though as you had to talked to every 3rd grunge fan boy/ girl who stopped you in the street and was like "you like the smashing pumpkins too?" >:(
kind of a reverse of non-sk8ers wearing thrasher shirts now... makes you think
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just remember this from mind field
He's wearing one of those in the DVS video too if I recall correctly. So yeah, it's been around for a good while now
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There was a huge falling out between Jamie and Andy Howell, basically pushing jamie into just using Zero for A clothing brand and turning it into a company shortly after.
Skate Mental was A blog/t shirt company, I ordered A zip up hood that took 2 months to get, to make up for it Brad threw in about 50 pizza pins. Brad rode for Ruby through Crailtap, and convinced them to do boards with the name skate mental that he owned.
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Innes did rule and the first person officially on zero was Wade Burkitt.
I had a red zero shirt (their first run no?) long before it was a board company. Those shirts were terribly timed though as you had to talked to every 3rd grunge fan boy/ girl who stopped you in the street and was like "you like the smashing pumpkins too?" >:(
wasn't a stipulation of Wade getting on that Ellington be put on too?
I'm not sure of the Ellington/ Wade connection so I think you might be talking about Scott Copalman no? They were from the same town if I recall?
Wade was from Sydney Australia and I doubt Ellington had been to Aus that early in his career. The chief had done multiple trips by that point and witnessed the legend that was Mr. Burkitt