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Title: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on November 28, 2016, 01:04:21 PM
we are setting up a small operation to sell & distribute Zero independently in the new year.
our goal is to focus on doing things small and well by servicing the best accounts and distributors. we'd like to continue to use dsm (dwindle) as our board manufacturer for the intl. market and we're setting up manufacturing for north america in the US & mexico.

the dwindle staff is amazing and they have been very supportive, but zero is small and what makes the most sense for us is to be independent and connect with the shops, distributors & end customers directly that appreciate the brand and it's history.

if you're a shop or distributor and would like to get set up to order zero directly, please send your email to: [email protected]
below is the message that dwindle sent out last week. obviously, feel free to talk shit, give your 2 cents/advice or ignore this post -jt

From: Bod Boyle, Dwindle Distribution 11/23/16
"This message is to act as a notice of change to the working relationship between Zero Skateboards and Dwindle Distribution. After the end of the initial term of the license/distribution agreement between Zero and Dwindle, Jamie Thomas has decided to run the brand independently. He will be setting up his offices in Carlsbad, California. Dwindle will continue to sell and deliver all Zero product until Jan 15th 2017."
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on November 28, 2016, 01:05:23 PM
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/jmthomas000/DANE%20NCV.jpg) (http://s179.photobucket.com/user/jmthomas000/media/DANE%20NCV.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on November 28, 2016, 01:08:50 PM
Dwindle sucks. Dane Burman is the best. Good luck Jamie.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Grind King Rims on November 28, 2016, 01:09:14 PM
Wishing you and yours the best of luck, Chief.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Bumpovertrash on November 28, 2016, 01:11:32 PM
Hell yeah chief
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Disco234 on November 28, 2016, 01:12:09 PM
Black Label does it. Stoked for you guys good luck. I will buy a zero deck now
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: SodaJerk on November 28, 2016, 01:15:34 PM
Thanks for coming straight to Slap with this JT. I wish you well. I also wish the rest of the industry would be so direct.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: slappies on November 28, 2016, 01:18:20 PM
Glad to see Zero staying above water through everything. Zero has been a solid brand since the start so it would be real shame to see it go. Good luck Jamie, thanks for keeping it real.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: SimonFR on November 28, 2016, 01:19:17 PM
If you wanted to sell decks and keep zero alive, you shouldn't have kicked forrest..
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Fart Sounds on November 28, 2016, 01:19:56 PM
Dwindle sucks. Dane Burman is the best. Good luck Jamie.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: bogolden on November 28, 2016, 01:20:00 PM
Sick!!
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: six newell on November 28, 2016, 01:28:53 PM
Best of luck!
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Righteous Victim on November 28, 2016, 01:30:07 PM
(https://s13.postimg.org/7dzyq7s1j/Ship.jpg)
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: ducky darnsworth on November 28, 2016, 01:31:35 PM
zero boards with better wood now?  sounds good, good luck man
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: JB on November 28, 2016, 01:46:20 PM
I hope things work out. That last No Cash Value vid was a real reminder of how gnarly and awesome Zero is.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Fecal Fury on November 28, 2016, 01:47:23 PM
(https://s13.postimg.org/7dzyq7s1j/Ship.jpg)

Decent.

Props Chief!

What does that mean for Intl. stores?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: el chino on November 28, 2016, 01:49:40 PM
Well, i dont even know what to think of this, i hope it works out but im not sure if it will
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on November 28, 2016, 01:55:14 PM
why, Why, WHY DSM WOOD FOR EUROPE?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: alraunen on November 28, 2016, 01:56:48 PM
Best of the luck chief, if you keep doing 8,75 everything will be fine
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: doublesteveburger on November 28, 2016, 02:13:56 PM
Every time I hear a rumor about Zero not doing well or an avenue falling through ran by Jamie I picture that "nah, one more" 5-0.


Good luck, Jamie, can't wait to own a copy of No Cash Value. 
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on November 28, 2016, 02:17:52 PM
why, Why, WHY DSM WOOD FOR EUROPE?

cause it's good and that's what we have in place. have you ridden a zero board from DSM? it's all myself and the team ride & we love them.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: hartpijn on November 28, 2016, 02:22:44 PM
why, Why, WHY DSM WOOD FOR EUROPE?

cause it's good and that's what we have in place. have you ridden a zero board from DSM? it's all myself and the team ride & we love them.

Do you already have a certain mfg in mind for North American boards? I'm based in Europe but have sworn to never ride dwindle boards again, but I've been really hyped on Zero for the past couple of years and considering I'm in the US once a year I would love to support.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Handsome B. Wonderful on November 28, 2016, 02:32:16 PM
Just make sure to keep things running along nicely for a while, staying respected within skating, before getting too big for your distressed denim britches and "diversifying" all over the goddamn place.

I'd say running a small, independent brand should work out well through the third quarter of 2017; after that you should consider adding a few more niche brands to the stable and maybe a shoe company or a price point imprint.

If you need any pointers on this stuff, Chief, I can put you in touch with some of the business consultants at Ernst & Young.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on November 28, 2016, 02:36:26 PM
why, Why, WHY DSM WOOD FOR EUROPE?
cause it's good and that's what we have in place. have you ridden a zero board from DSM? it's all myself and the team ride & we love them.

its good, yes, compared to other non-american woodshops, i`ll give you that, no question. but if i have the chance to ride ps, generator, bareback, sadly i will always choose those, i guess. danes new part might change that though. (or, hint hint, a franky villani board).
in any case, thanks for responding to my reply, much appreciated!
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: BacksideWallride on November 28, 2016, 02:40:48 PM
Glad to see Zero staying above water through everything. Zero has been a solid brand since the start so it would be real shame to see it go. Good luck Jamie, thanks for keeping it real.

I see what you did there...
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: GAY on November 28, 2016, 02:42:50 PM
why, Why, WHY DSM WOOD FOR EUROPE?
cause it's good and that's what we have in place. have you ridden a zero board from DSM? it's all myself and the team ride & we love them.

its good, yes, compared to other non-american woodshops, i`ll give you that, no question. but if i have the chance to ride ps, generator, bareback, sadly i will always choose those, i guess. danes new part might change that though. (or, hint hint, a franky villani board).
in any case, thanks for responding to my reply, much appreciated!

There you go again, Hercules, flirting with me subconsciously.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Tracer on November 28, 2016, 02:48:53 PM
Dwindle boards are solid it just sucks they're made in China. Let's hope Trump can bring those jobs back to NA
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: GinosGroceries on November 28, 2016, 02:49:59 PM
Taking the proverbial leap of faith. I dig it
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Allen. on November 28, 2016, 02:52:14 PM
Stoked. Generator wood pls.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: slappies on November 28, 2016, 02:56:28 PM
Glad to see Zero staying above water through everything. Zero has been a solid brand since the start so it would be real shame to see it go. Good luck Jamie, thanks for keeping it real.

I see what you did there...

I legitimately have no idea what I did there. Did I accidentally reference something? Is it cool?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: pabloalvarado on November 28, 2016, 02:59:49 PM
A friend of mine had been skating Zero boards/clothes since hes part of the van. He reminds me why Zero is so good every time we are driving around when hes in charge of the music. We play this game that he puts a song from a videopart and we guess the part and describe tricks...hes really into those videos.

I wore Zero hoodies when I was in high school and actually my first skateboard was the American Zero just because how cool the THPS character was. My first four or five skateboards were Zero. I want a Misled Youth shirt now. Good luck JT. Zero is forever !
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: BacksideWallride on November 28, 2016, 03:00:52 PM
why, Why, WHY DSM WOOD FOR EUROPE?
cause it's good and that's what we have in place. have you ridden a zero board from DSM? it's all myself and the team ride & we love them.

its good, yes, compared to other non-american woodshops, i`ll give you that, no question. but if i have the chance to ride ps, generator, bareback, sadly i will always choose those, i guess. danes new part might change that though. (or, hint hint, a franky villani board).
in any case, thanks for responding to my reply, much appreciated!

There you go again, Hercules, flirting with me subconsciously.

To be fair your name is GAY...
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: TwisT on November 28, 2016, 03:05:25 PM
Zero been in rocky waters for like what 3yrs now and still hung on. That's what's impressive. how many companys have completely sunk in that time. Scaling down could work out seeing as other small brands are surviving. I've never been a fan of zero's art direction, so I've never bought one. Hopefully, there's a zero logo board in my size around next time I need a deck.

When was the last time anyone here skated a dwindle board?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: BacksideWallride on November 28, 2016, 03:20:24 PM
Glad to see Zero staying above water through everything. Zero has been a solid brand since the start so it would be real shame to see it go. Good luck Jamie, thanks for keeping it real.

I see what you did there...

I legitimately have no idea what I did there. Did I accidentally reference something? Is it cool?

Eh, above water=up stream.  ::) Bad joke... Continue...
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: h00man on November 28, 2016, 03:50:53 PM
Good luck JT! Also good shit on No Cash Value! Dane is a monster!
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: perverted super otaku! on November 28, 2016, 04:13:17 PM
why, Why, WHY DSM WOOD FOR EUROPE?

cause it's good and that's what we have in place. have you ridden a zero board from DSM? it's all myself and the team ride & we love them.
Can vouch for this too, the Zero's from dwindle are great, snappy long lasting, great boards
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: swanronson on November 28, 2016, 04:39:36 PM
Good stuff. I've always been a zero fan. Some misled youth tees and hoods would be the cherry on the cake if you can keep those a regular thing.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: winecrab on November 28, 2016, 04:48:29 PM
Any idea when the first batch will hit stores? I'll definetely pick one up. When's the new clothing catalog coming out?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: WantSomeSlaw on November 28, 2016, 05:31:36 PM
Hyped.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: JAesop on November 28, 2016, 05:37:35 PM
why, Why, WHY DSM WOOD FOR EUROPE?

cause it's good and that's what we have in place. have you ridden a zero board from DSM? it's all myself and the team ride & we love them.
Can vouch for this too, the Zero's from dwindle are great, snappy long lasting, great boards

Ditto: I was on the Dwindle hate train until I skated a Cliche Eldridge deck last spring. It seriously lasted twice as long as any other board. Stayed stiff too. A little heavier but solid wood.


Good luck Chief.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: m477 on November 28, 2016, 05:46:34 PM
Turn Franky pro!
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on November 28, 2016, 07:14:18 PM
Turn Franky pro!

working on it
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: straight on November 28, 2016, 07:57:00 PM
^ hope this means a new part soon
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: doyle on November 28, 2016, 08:39:07 PM
Turn Franky pro!

working on it
and put JS on!!
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: pointandclick on November 28, 2016, 09:02:33 PM
Turn Franky pro!

working on it
and put JS on!!
and some other canadians.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: pabloalvarado on November 28, 2016, 10:28:14 PM
Turn Franky pro!

working on it
and put JS on!!
and some other canadians.

Both Tracer and Mark Appleyard are available Chief.  :o
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on November 28, 2016, 11:01:47 PM
why, Why, WHY DSM WOOD FOR EUROPE?
cause it's good and that's what we have in place. have you ridden a zero board from DSM? it's all myself and the team ride & we love them.

its good, yes, compared to other non-american woodshops, i`ll give you that, no question. but if i have the chance to ride ps, generator, bareback, sadly i will always choose those, i guess. danes new part might change that though. (or, hint hint, a franky villani board).
in any case, thanks for responding to my reply, much appreciated!

There you go again, Hercules, flirting with me subconsciously.

To be fair your name is GAY...

you cracked the code!

and you know thats no coincidence, GAY, right?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: somethingmustbreaknow on November 29, 2016, 12:27:57 AM
best of luck, jamie T
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: KoRnholio8 on November 29, 2016, 12:54:35 AM
Yeah, best of luck, you deserve it.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Turtle Boy on November 29, 2016, 01:25:17 AM
I think you are doing it right, the transition from big company to smaller operation has maintained the original flavour of the brand. The new team members such as Franky or Windsor add a really good vibe too. It almost has a smaller brand feel (like Polar or $lave). I think your apparel line has a really good potential to grow.
Stay focused on Zero, skateboarding and your family, and don't lose too much energy and time on side projects.
Dwindle wood was never an issue for me, had a lot of enjoi boards and a couple of almost and it was never bad.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Syhr on November 29, 2016, 01:46:50 AM
Zero been in rocky waters for like what 3yrs now and still hung on. That's what's impressive. how many companys have completely sunk in that time. Scaling down could work out seeing as other small brands are surviving. I've never been a fan of zero's art direction, so I've never bought one. Hopefully, there's a zero logo board in my size around next time I need a deck.

When was the last time anyone here skated a dwindle board?

Had a Zero not so long ago, think it was one of those Resin ones. It chipped pretty quickly but the pop and rigidity lasted for like two months, would definitely skate again!
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: N/A on November 29, 2016, 04:08:40 AM
Zero goes solo
Welcome now in zumiez
#trendwatch2k17
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: peacepappies on November 29, 2016, 04:17:03 AM
do younger kids buy zero boards? best of luck, skulls in 2016..
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Esquivel on November 29, 2016, 04:26:54 AM
Good luck, Jamie
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: reptar_bar on November 29, 2016, 04:28:15 AM
I used to skate Zero's a lot in 09' and 2010, but I think that last one I had was around 2012. Would be hyped to try a few zero boards again when this new project is released. Glad to see it's going back to a more independatly run company - dwindle managed to put cliche under so get out of there while you can!!
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: scaryghoul on November 29, 2016, 04:50:26 AM
I want you to print the billy corgan long sleeve
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Hevonen on November 29, 2016, 05:18:50 AM
won't be buying anything from zero before forrest is pro

that being said cold war is one of my favorite videos of the recent years
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Roisto on November 29, 2016, 05:39:57 AM
I usually don't like Zero graphics at all really but the propaganda series was cool. Especially Boserio and Sandoval, which also happened to be my size. Kinda missed out on those as I usually don't pay attention to Zero. Zero videos on the other hand are great IMO. Been after the Anthology DVD for a while, but no luck yet. I could definitely see myself buying a Zero board in the future if the graphics are on point.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: BrunsdOut17 on November 29, 2016, 06:33:11 AM
sounds like a good move JT. stoked to see how this goes. also, no cash value DVD would be sick...
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on November 29, 2016, 07:19:51 AM
Turn Franky pro!

working on it
and put JS on!!

JS will be introduced when he finishes a vx part
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: 144p on November 29, 2016, 07:36:20 AM
I am very curious to see how Zero changes after heading out on it's own.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: doomstation55 on November 29, 2016, 07:41:45 AM
(https://s13.postimg.org/7dzyq7s1j/Ship.jpg)

low key best photo shop I've seen in awhile
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Watson on November 29, 2016, 08:47:38 AM
(https://s13.postimg.org/7dzyq7s1j/Ship.jpg)

low key best photo shop I've seen in awhile

Yeah this was lolz for real.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on November 29, 2016, 08:54:50 AM
Turn Franky pro!

working on it
and put JS on!!
and some other canadians.
No. The skateboard industry should have learned its lesson from guys like Paul Machnau, Alex Chalmers, Micky Papa, and a long list of others...nobody gives a shit about Canadians no matter how talented they are.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Mongoloid on November 29, 2016, 08:58:17 AM
Turn Franky pro!

working on it
and put JS on!!
and some other canadians.
No. The skateboard industry should have learned its lesson from guys like Paul Machnau, Alex Chalmers, Micky Papa, and a long list of others...nobody gives a shit about Canadians no matter how talented they are.

Yeah! no one ever gave a single fuck about Rick McCrank.....
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Grind King Rims on November 29, 2016, 09:13:15 AM
I want you to print the billy corgan long sleeve

http://zeroskateboards.com/product/army-ls-black/ (http://zeroskateboards.com/product/army-ls-black/)

Not the exact same, but...
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: h00man on November 29, 2016, 09:14:28 AM
JT whatever happened to Slave
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Watson on November 29, 2016, 09:16:40 AM
Turn Franky pro!

working on it
and put JS on!!
and some other canadians.
No. The skateboard industry should have learned its lesson from guys like Paul Machnau, Alex Chalmers, Micky Papa, and a long list of others...nobody gives a shit about Canadians no matter how talented they are.

Good god. Come on dude get over the smug arbitrary nationalism.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: doomstation55 on November 29, 2016, 09:20:31 AM
I feel like there's two types of Canadian skaters. The ones who end up in digital videos and on the blind team, and the ones who move away from Canada and are able to have a successful skateboard career.

I wish Russ Milligan didn't blow his load early on with a digital part, he could have had something when he got on City/Think but was relegated to the Canadian DVS team shoe wise.

Edit: exception to this rule is Bobby Dekeyzer somehow. McCrank moved to California and started a great career but then moved back to Canada and hasn't had a shoe sponsor since the first downfall of Es. That's not a coincidence.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Casey Jones on November 29, 2016, 09:28:44 AM
What's up with that Chris Wimer dude? He's great. Him and Franky should be the next zero push.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Watson on November 29, 2016, 09:29:27 AM
I feel like there's two types of skaters. The ones who end up in digital videos and on the blind team, and the ones who are able to have a successful skateboard career.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Turtle Boy on November 29, 2016, 09:35:28 AM
I feel like there's two types of Canadian skaters. The ones who end up in digital videos and on the blind team, and the ones who move away from Canada and are able to have a successful skateboard career.

I wish Russ Milligan didn't blow his load early on with a digital part, he could have had something when he got on City/Think but was relegated to the Canadian DVS team shoe wise.

Edit: exception to this rule is Bobby Dekeyzer somehow. McCrank moved to California and started a great career but then moved back to Canada and hasn't had a shoe sponsor since the first downfall of Es. That's not a coincidence.
There are tons of examples of canadian that made it.
What I think Reagan was meaning, is that being canadian is an obstacle to make a great career.
For example, do you think Kevin Terpening or Cooper Wilt would have been pro if they were canadian, while Russ Milligan, Ted Degros and so many other super talented canadian skateboarders struggled?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Xen on November 29, 2016, 10:08:54 AM
why, Why, WHY DSM WOOD FOR EUROPE?

cause it's good and that's what we have in place. have you ridden a zero board from DSM? it's all myself and the team ride & we love them.

I'm bummed we won't have DSM wood  stateside =( I love the wood. I'm in the minority here. I like NHS/DSM wood and hate PS stix (it's heavy and soggy to me). BBS? Generator?

What about Prime/watson/churchill/chapman/pennswoood? Plenty of US options...that would be rad.

Can we get some more Zero P2s now? :P
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Mongoloid on November 29, 2016, 10:19:32 AM
I feel like there's two types of Canadian skaters. The ones who end up in digital videos and on the blind team, and the ones who move away from Canada and are able to have a successful skateboard career.

I wish Russ Milligan didn't blow his load early on with a digital part, he could have had something when he got on City/Think but was relegated to the Canadian DVS team shoe wise.

Edit: exception to this rule is Bobby Dekeyzer somehow. McCrank moved to California and started a great career but then moved back to Canada and hasn't had a shoe sponsor since the first downfall of Es. That's not a coincidence.
There are tons of examples of canadian that made it.
What I think Reagan was meaning, is that being canadian is an obstacle to make a great career.
For example, do you think Kevin Terpening or Cooper Wilt would have been pro if they were canadian, while Russ Milligan, Ted Degros and so many other super talented canadian skateboarders struggled?

You shouldn't give Gipper's statement your own interpretation of context (right or wrong), as you are dampening the entertainment value of his follow up.

Not hating on you Gipp, but you are an overt human ball of hypocrisy. As long as you realize it it's ok.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: slappies on November 29, 2016, 10:28:42 AM
I can't think of a single Canadian who has made an impact on skateboarding. Not one, not a single Canadian in all of skateboarding. They're all no-names and losers with big shirts and phat Circas.




(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSGLV4GWUAA4fMS.jpg)
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: ChuckRamone on November 29, 2016, 10:30:23 AM
Lee Yankou is from Canada.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Dontfearthereefer on November 29, 2016, 11:22:58 AM
That dude that died trying switch front board on el toro was Canadian
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Dontfearthereefer on November 29, 2016, 11:25:31 AM
That dude that died trying switch front board on el toro was Canadian
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Dontfearthereefer on November 29, 2016, 11:25:43 AM
That dude that died trying switch front board on el toro was Canadian
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Makaveli on November 29, 2016, 11:27:15 AM
I am very curious to see how Zero changes after heading out on it's own.


They won't be a company in a year or two...
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Watson on November 29, 2016, 11:41:33 AM
Fuck I can't believe I was successfully trolled by The Gip resulting in another thread being derailed.

Please revoke my Pal status, for I am n00b :(
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: BacksideWallride on November 29, 2016, 01:56:49 PM
That dude that died trying switch front board on el toro was Canadian

Say again?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: slappies on November 29, 2016, 01:58:05 PM
That dude that died trying switch front board on el toro was Canadian

Say again?

Dan Pageau. He's still alive, and will always be alive because legends never die.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: BacksideWallride on November 29, 2016, 02:17:12 PM
Isn't Wade Desarmo Canadian? Rick Howard? Ridiculous to write off an entire nation.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on November 29, 2016, 02:25:20 PM
I feel like there's two types of Canadian skaters. The ones who end up in digital videos and on the blind team, and the ones who move away from Canada and are able to have a successful skateboard career.

I wish Russ Milligan didn't blow his load early on with a digital part, he could have had something when he got on City/Think but was relegated to the Canadian DVS team shoe wise.

Edit: exception to this rule is Bobby Dekeyzer somehow. McCrank moved to California and started a great career but then moved back to Canada and hasn't had a shoe sponsor since the first downfall of Es. That's not a coincidence.
There are tons of examples of canadian that made it.
What I think Reagan was meaning, is that being canadian is an obstacle to make a great career.
For example, do you think Kevin Terpening or Cooper Wilt would have been pro if they were canadian, while Russ Milligan, Ted Degros and so many other super talented canadian skateboarders struggled?

You shouldn't give Gipper's statement your own interpretation of context (right or wrong), as you are dampening the entertainment value of his follow up.

Not hating on you Gipp, but you are an overt human ball of hypocrisy. As long as you realize it it's ok.
How am I hypocritical? I'm not Canadian.

Isn't Wade Desarmo Canadian? Rick Howard? Ridiculous to write off an entire nation.
Yes, Wade Desarmo is Canadian, which actually helps my point, as does the mention of people like Dan Pageau. Great skaters, but most people just don't give a shit.
I agree that its ridiculous to write off an entire nation, unless that nation is Canada.

Lee Yankou is from Canada.
You almost have a point there- Yankou, like others I mentioned, is amazing, but he's been relegated to virtual no-name status because he's Canadian. When he was an impostor American living in SF, he was starting to blow up, but then La Migra kicked his ass out, and BOOM! he got all Canadian again, and people stopped caring aside from the once a year when Canada is cool: The Dime Glory Challenge.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Tracer on November 29, 2016, 02:30:35 PM
Did you get beat down by some GSPs or what??
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on November 29, 2016, 02:32:50 PM
What is a GSP? A member of the "Golly! So Polite!" crew?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Mongoloid on November 29, 2016, 02:35:31 PM
I feel like there's two types of Canadian skaters. The ones who end up in digital videos and on the blind team, and the ones who move away from Canada and are able to have a successful skateboard career.

I wish Russ Milligan didn't blow his load early on with a digital part, he could have had something when he got on City/Think but was relegated to the Canadian DVS team shoe wise.

Edit: exception to this rule is Bobby Dekeyzer somehow. McCrank moved to California and started a great career but then moved back to Canada and hasn't had a shoe sponsor since the first downfall of Es. That's not a coincidence.
There are tons of examples of canadian that made it.
What I think Reagan was meaning, is that being canadian is an obstacle to make a great career.
For example, do you think Kevin Terpening or Cooper Wilt would have been pro if they were canadian, while Russ Milligan, Ted Degros and so many other super talented canadian skateboarders struggled?

You shouldn't give Gipper's statement your own interpretation of context (right or wrong), as you are dampening the entertainment value of his follow up.

Not hating on you Gipp, but you are an overt human ball of hypocrisy. As long as you realize it it's ok.
How am I hypocritical? I'm not Canadian.

You criticize those of whom paint with a broad brush, and make generalizations. Then proceed to do that very same thing yourself.

I don't personally care either way, but I do find it kind of funny given your history.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Tracer on November 29, 2016, 02:39:29 PM
What is a GSP? A member of the "Golly! So Polite!" crew?
lol you're on fire today, keep it up  :D
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: 7 year old on November 29, 2016, 02:44:22 PM
I can't think of a single Canadian who has made an impact on skateboarding. Not one, not a single Canadian in all of skateboarding. They're all no-names and loosers with big shirts and phat Circas.




(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSGLV4GWUAA4fMS.jpg)
I was enjoying this post until the end then it all fell apart.
sincerely,
a canadian looser
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: shit_for_brains on November 29, 2016, 03:16:41 PM
I went to Montreal and fell asleep with my thumb in a girl's butt hole so Canada is fine in my book.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Watson on November 29, 2016, 03:33:14 PM
I went to Montreal and fell asleep with my thumb in a girl's butt hole so Canada is fine in my book.

I fell asleep with my face in a girl's ass who was from Montreal. So I guess Montreal butt hole is fine in both our books.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: mattchew on November 29, 2016, 03:46:02 PM
Canada produced both Gailea Momolu and Dime, so it's a pretty cool place in my book.
Plus, Trailer Park Boys.
Poutine, too.

Man, fuck you Gip!!!
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on November 29, 2016, 03:55:04 PM
Fuck trailer park boys, and you wouldn't have passed out if it was good butthole...
I feel like there's two types of Canadian skaters. The ones who end up in digital videos and on the blind team, and the ones who move away from Canada and are able to have a successful skateboard career.

I wish Russ Milligan didn't blow his load early on with a digital part, he could have had something when he got on City/Think but was relegated to the Canadian DVS team shoe wise.

Edit: exception to this rule is Bobby Dekeyzer somehow. McCrank moved to California and started a great career but then moved back to Canada and hasn't had a shoe sponsor since the first downfall of Es. That's not a coincidence.
There are tons of examples of canadian that made it.
What I think Reagan was meaning, is that being canadian is an obstacle to make a great career.
For example, do you think Kevin Terpening or Cooper Wilt would have been pro if they were canadian, while Russ Milligan, Ted Degros and so many other super talented canadian skateboarders struggled?

You shouldn't give Gipper's statement your own interpretation of context (right or wrong), as you are dampening the entertainment value of his follow up.

Not hating on you Gipp, but you are an overt human ball of hypocrisy. As long as you realize it it's ok.
How am I hypocritical? I'm not Canadian.

You criticize those of whom paint with a broad brush, and make generalizations. Then proceed to do that very same thing yourself.

I don't personally care either way, but I do find it kind of funny given your history.
um.....no.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: lilpeen on November 29, 2016, 03:59:39 PM
"Fuck trailer park boys"

What kind of monster are you? Jeez
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Hands down Hass out on November 29, 2016, 04:01:25 PM
More Marisa footage, please.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: shit_for_brains on November 29, 2016, 04:06:29 PM
I went to Montreal and fell asleep with my thumb in a girl's butt hole so Canada is fine in my book.

I fell asleep with my face in a girl's ass who was from Montreal. So I guess Montreal butt hole is fine in both our books.

Was she Asian? Not that it might be the same girl, but it would be cool if yours was too.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: poowizard on November 29, 2016, 04:08:52 PM
That was quite the derailment. Stoked to hear Jamie, grats on the move and as always...good luck. Hyped that you are still taking care of
Windsor. I might need to break out the box set!
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: lilpeen on November 29, 2016, 04:22:56 PM
Yeah I could go for a O.G. skull logo hoodie right about now. For old times sake.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: poowizard on November 29, 2016, 05:28:50 PM
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15232198_1174130175988202_721663969756873825_n.jpg?oh=85367a1dd9156b7fa31b46d89ced5aab&oe=58FAAD1A)
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Righteous Victim on November 29, 2016, 06:00:54 PM
Was that a pre-Poo Wizard Keegan Sauder graphic?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: shags6 on November 29, 2016, 07:53:32 PM
Maaaan, I got hyped on this thread's news and went out and bought a zero board. When I was skating home from setting it up at the shop I got caught in a suprise rainstorm. Like there wasnt even a cloud when I left the shop. Fuck, $50 down the drain.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on November 29, 2016, 07:59:11 PM
I am very curious to see how Zero changes after heading out on it's own.


They won't be a company in a year or two...

haha, 20 years deep and i still own it, we're not going anywhere
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on November 29, 2016, 08:00:17 PM
JT whatever happened to Slave

ben horton runs it on his own; small operation, but only does cool shit
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on November 29, 2016, 08:01:17 PM
What's up with that Chris Wimer dude? He's great. Him and Franky should be the next zero push.

they are
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on November 29, 2016, 08:04:16 PM
More Marisa footage, please.

'best of' part coming soon w some other cool shit
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on November 29, 2016, 08:06:24 PM
Maaaan, I got hyped on this thread's news and went out and bought a zero board. When I was skating home from setting it up at the shop I got caught in a suprise rainstorm. Like there wasnt even a cloud when I left the shop. Fuck, $50 down the drain.

my board fell in a river a few times a few weeks ago and it's still going, hopefully it's fine
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Paco Supreme on November 29, 2016, 08:19:43 PM
More Marisa footage, please.

Doesn't she ride Blood Wizard boards now? ask them
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: lukefromsydney on November 29, 2016, 09:48:45 PM
Is there gonna be a DVD, if so, are Garrett and Brass still going to be featured or..
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Budgie Lasek on November 29, 2016, 10:07:22 PM
Man, I love it when internet trolls with delusions of grandeur regarding their opinions spout some shit that proves just how clueless they really are. Keep enlightening us Gip, please.



ISUCK - glad to hear Zero is gonna keep on keepin' on. The video was rad. Thanks for the compliment on the Canadian shop tee a month or so ago in east LA - you and I actually shared the cover of a Transworld Business mag in the late 90's, which is a pretty random tidbit of trivia, I suppose. I'll say what's up if I run into ya at Poods before I have to head back north.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: tom on November 30, 2016, 08:52:44 AM
Canada produced both Gailea Momolu and Dime, so it's a pretty cool place in my book.
Plus, Trailer Park Boys.
Poutine, too.

Man, fuck you Gip!!!
gailea momolu was born in Boston. He's not a real canadian

Dwindle boards are great for the first three days. They go flat and chip up though. It's easy to say the team loves skating the boards, but that's because they're setting up a new one every day/every other day. I used to love Zero shapes and wood. They were good flip trick boards. Admittedly I haven't had one since 2011 though
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on November 30, 2016, 08:58:19 AM
Canada produced both Gailea Momolu and Dime, so it's a pretty cool place in my book.
Plus, Trailer Park Boys.
Poutine, too.

Man, fuck you Gip!!!
gailea momolu was born in Boston. He's not a real canadian

Dwindle boards are great for the first three days. They go flat and chip up though. It's easy to say the team loves skating the boards, but that's because they're setting up a new one every day/every other day. I used to love Zero shapes and wood. They were good flip trick boards. Admittedly I haven't had one since 2011 though
Not to mention- despite having a great style, dude didn't have much of a career. My point isn't talent, its marketability. Canadians are the least marketable dudes ever.  The last time viable canadians came on the scene, the "new spot" in Vancouver was still going strong.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Tracer on November 30, 2016, 09:02:08 AM
What about Mexicans though, try to balance your ignorance
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: shark tits on November 30, 2016, 09:04:08 AM
yo isuck, i got picked up hitchhiking in jackson ms by some guy w/ cali plates who said he was like a silent partner in original zero. think his name was chris. any truth to that baby back bullshit? i just nodded patronizing cause i didn't wanna loose a ride behind calling bullshit but who knows?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: doomstation55 on November 30, 2016, 09:08:45 AM
Can we just agree Canadians are subhumans at best?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Tracer on November 30, 2016, 09:12:42 AM
Can we just agree Canadians are subhumans at best?
Canada is black friday everyday for yanks, not sure what yall are bitching about!
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: tom on November 30, 2016, 09:25:09 AM
Canada produced both Gailea Momolu and Dime, so it's a pretty cool place in my book.
Plus, Trailer Park Boys.
Poutine, too.

Man, fuck you Gip!!!
gailea momolu was born in Boston. He's not a real canadian

Dwindle boards are great for the first three days. They go flat and chip up though. It's easy to say the team loves skating the boards, but that's because they're setting up a new one every day/every other day. I used to love Zero shapes and wood. They were good flip trick boards. Admittedly I haven't had one since 2011 though
Not to mention- despite having a great style, dude didn't have much of a career. My point isn't talent, its marketability. Canadians are the least marketable dudes ever.  The last time viable canadians came on the scene, the "new spot" in Vancouver was still going strong.
canadians can keep lining up to skate for darkstar. I hear they're opening up some new spots on the team
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Watson on November 30, 2016, 09:36:27 AM
I went to Montreal and fell asleep with my thumb in a girl's butt hole so Canada is fine in my book.

I fell asleep with my face in a girl's ass who was from Montreal. So I guess Montreal butt hole is fine in both our books.

Was she Asian? Not that it might be the same girl, but it would be cool if yours was too.

No, but you're right that would have been cool. I like Asian girls and their butt holes.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: shit_for_brains on November 30, 2016, 09:40:25 AM
I went to Montreal and fell asleep with my thumb in a girl's butt hole so Canada is fine in my book.

I fell asleep with my face in a girl's ass who was from Montreal. So I guess Montreal butt hole is fine in both our books.

Was she Asian? Not that it might be the same girl, but it would be cool if yours was too.

No, but you're right that would have been cool. I like Asian girls and their butt holes.

Well let's work this out. She was in Montreal so maybe she's at least a little French. France was occupied by Nazi Germany in WWII and they were allied with Japan and Japanese people are definitely Asian. There you go. Your girl was both Asian and a Nazi sympathizer.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Watson on November 30, 2016, 09:45:07 AM
I went to Montreal and fell asleep with my thumb in a girl's butt hole so Canada is fine in my book.

I fell asleep with my face in a girl's ass who was from Montreal. So I guess Montreal butt hole is fine in both our books.

Was she Asian? Not that it might be the same girl, but it would be cool if yours was too.

No, but you're right that would have been cool. I like Asian girls and their butt holes.

Well let's work this out. She was in Montreal so maybe she's at least a little French. France was occupied by Nazi Germany in WWII and they were allied with Japan and Japanese people are definitely Asian. There you go. Your girl was both Asian and a Nazi sympathizer.

Your story checks out. I'm cool with it.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: GAY on November 30, 2016, 09:49:52 AM
why, Why, WHY DSM WOOD FOR EUROPE?
cause it's good and that's what we have in place. have you ridden a zero board from DSM? it's all myself and the team ride & we love them.

its good, yes, compared to other non-american woodshops, i`ll give you that, no question. but if i have the chance to ride ps, generator, bareback, sadly i will always choose those, i guess. danes new part might change that though. (or, hint hint, a franky villani board).
in any case, thanks for responding to my reply, much appreciated!

There you go again, Hercules, flirting with me subconsciously.

To be fair your name is GAY...

you cracked the code!

and you know thats no coincidence, GAY, right?

I'm, like, so, like, totally blushing right now, bro.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: ttching! on November 30, 2016, 11:54:56 AM
Too much talk about Asian butt hole in this thread, not enough Asian butt hole.

(http://66.media.tumblr.com/388b1f497f9477eae08e9ab79c12c0a7/tumblr_ndqcbzwWdW1r4mmrfo1_250.jpg)
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: lilpeen on November 30, 2016, 12:00:10 PM
Yeah we need to turn this thread around
(http://i.imgur.com/BZb5siS.jpg)
(https://pics.onsizzle.com/cal-nig-say-live-415-408-asian-butthole-available-for-3428680.png)
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on November 30, 2016, 12:16:15 PM
why, Why, WHY DSM WOOD FOR EUROPE?

cause it's good and that's what we have in place. have you ridden a zero board from DSM? it's all myself and the team ride & we love them.

Do you all ride the impact plus or just the regular resin 7 DSM boards?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Mongoloid on November 30, 2016, 12:56:02 PM
Now this thread is going places!

I always speculated in the month that I spent in Japan that all the cute girls I was seeing probably were doing the gnarliest rankest shits imaginable with all that seaweed/seafood in their diets.

Sadly I was unable to verify if this was infact true.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: ttching! on November 30, 2016, 02:51:36 PM
Now this thread is going places!

I always speculated in the month that I spent in Japan that all the cute girls I was seeing probably were doing the gnarliest rankest shits imaginable with all that seaweed/seafood in their diets.

Sadly I was unable to verify if this was infact true.

(http://cdn4.thumbs.motherlessmedia.com/thumbs/EDD88A9-zoom.gif?from_helper)

Confirmed.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: ducky darnsworth on November 30, 2016, 02:55:00 PM
all i can imagine is that jamie opens up this thread and his kid//wife is looking at the screen and the first thing that he scrolls down to see is that gif
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: lilpeen on November 30, 2016, 03:37:41 PM
Now this thread is going places!

I always speculated in the month that I spent in Japan that all the cute girls I was seeing probably were doing the gnarliest rankest shits imaginable with all that seaweed/seafood in their diets.

Sadly I was unable to verify if this was infact true.

(http://cdn4.thumbs.motherlessmedia.com/thumbs/EDD88A9-zoom.gif?from_helper)

Confirmed.
Double confirmed.
(http://www.yezzclips.com/item_previews/previews_storeuploaded/48574.gif)
Triple confrimed.
(http://s5.depic.me/01052/1ai7we0x420r.jpg)
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: lilpeen on November 30, 2016, 03:45:49 PM
So, about these Zero decks...
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Iceman on November 30, 2016, 03:49:30 PM
imagine how horrified the priest is going to be now that jamie has to go to confession.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: doublesteveburger on November 30, 2016, 04:07:37 PM
Asian buttholes on Zero confirmed.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: lilpeen on November 30, 2016, 04:13:06 PM
imagine how horrified the priest is going to be now that jamie has to go to confession.
I like to imagine he prays in his garage, surrounded my an alter made of jamie thomas cross decks.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Mongoloid on November 30, 2016, 05:19:07 PM
Hey Jamie! Is there truth to the rumor we may be seeing Zero X Asian scat collab products in the near future?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: lilpeen on November 30, 2016, 06:15:20 PM
Hey Jamie! Is there truth to the rumor we may be seeing Zero X Asian scat collab products in the near future?
I think hes gonna wait till the next page and act like this never happened. Hook ups should get on some asian scat shit. I know Klein is into it.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: straight on November 30, 2016, 07:48:37 PM
all asian poo looks the same , confirmed.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Deekay on November 30, 2016, 08:23:31 PM
I think this is really great. I'm not that stoked on europe still being DSM but I'll support Zero forever, we grew up on that shit. I wish you all the best Jamie.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: shit_for_brains on November 30, 2016, 08:28:17 PM
I accept no responsibility in this.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on November 30, 2016, 08:39:55 PM
imagine how horrified the priest is going to be now that jamie has to go to confession.

It'll be fine, they blurred the vagina.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Bubblegum Tate on November 30, 2016, 08:48:40 PM
Hyped, haven't had a ZERO board in a long time.

Hopefully I will grab one soon to try again.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: doublesteveburger on November 30, 2016, 08:48:59 PM
I think this is really great. I'm not that stoked on europe still being DSM but I'll support Zero forever, we grew up on that shit. I wish you all the best Jamie.

Is this an Asian butthole thing? Can someone confirm this?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: tobey on November 30, 2016, 08:49:30 PM
I'm really stoked that i haven't checked this thread since Jamie started it till tonight. I first got a nice snack and was eager to read some of these responses and then checked the last page first for some reason. I'm going to have a cigarette instead, lost my appetite for some reason  
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: fulltechnicalskizzy on November 30, 2016, 09:01:16 PM
Racist.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: pointandclick on November 30, 2016, 09:02:32 PM
I think this is really great. I'm not that stoked on europe still being DSM but I'll support Zero forever, we grew up on that shit. I wish you all the best Jamie.

Is this an Asian butthole thing? Can someone confirm this?
i think it would be DSM for everything no?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: lilpeen on November 30, 2016, 09:08:57 PM
I think this is really great. I'm not that stoked on europe still being DSM but I'll support Zero forever, we grew up on that shit. I wish you all the best Jamie.

Is this an Asian butthole thing? Can someone confirm this?
DSM stands for DookieSmotheredMen, so yes, confirmed. I think jamie is hiding something. Zero actually means 0, which is shaped like a butthole, so something fishy is going on. Im connecting the pieces, and you cant hide from your real intentions jamie. Jamie Thomas is asian butthole obsessed, and this is confirmed by my cousin who is a high up a Zero HQ, he works in sales. Wait untill the full story drops. Jamie has been into asian buttholes since 96'.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Righteous Victim on December 01, 2016, 06:08:56 AM
Only 7 more posts.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: the snake on December 01, 2016, 08:38:21 AM
can't wait for the Zero "Taller Ants" board  ;D
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: MexicanSpaniard on December 01, 2016, 08:43:44 AM
Fuck, that was a lot of poo and I just ate, I don't feel good now.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: SodaJerk on December 01, 2016, 04:03:41 PM
can't wait for the Zero "Taller Ants" board  ;D
Yes
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Joust Ostrich on December 01, 2016, 04:29:23 PM
I have an American Zero L/S shirt, so old it has a Tumyeto tag.  I was totally willing to trade it for some asian butthole, three minutes ago. 
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Jack Klompis on December 01, 2016, 06:08:26 PM
damn cheif congrats this is dope, yo could i borrow 50 bux?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Righteous Victim on December 01, 2016, 06:15:19 PM
New page, can we keep the poo to a minimum.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: stabbedbywiggers on December 01, 2016, 06:40:40 PM
R.I.P. page 5, what a page. Brings a tear to my eye  :'(
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: shit_for_brains on December 01, 2016, 06:48:30 PM
New page, can we keep the poo to a minimum.

That's code for PM this guy some poo gifs
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: DannyDee on December 02, 2016, 12:44:59 AM
Turn Franky pro!

working on it
and put JS on!!
and some other canadians.
No. The skateboard industry should have learned its lesson from guys like Paul Machnau, Alex Chalmers, Micky Papa, and a long list of others...nobody gives a shit about Canadians no matter how talented they are.
Go fuck yourselves. People have to move for their careers. Glad to know you don't appreciate Apples, Rick Howard or Rick McCrank.

Glad to know a mid-western transplant to cali has the right to judge what's cool and marketable, yet is self-righteous and xenophobic. Maybe I'd be salty if the most famous skaters from my city was Chaz Ortiz (Jon Dickson rips, but I wouldn't call him a beacon of personality).
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on December 03, 2016, 09:58:45 AM
Is there gonna be a DVD, if so, are Garrett and Brass still going to be featured or..

yes, we're making a 'no cash value' dvd.
garrett's part will be in it and brass' might be hidden somewhere
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on December 03, 2016, 10:01:53 AM
yo isuck, i got picked up hitchhiking in jackson ms by some guy w/ cali plates who said he was like a silent partner in original zero. think his name was chris. any truth to that baby back bullshit? i just nodded patronizing cause i didn't wanna loose a ride behind calling bullshit but who knows?

if his name was chad driving a toyota pick up, then yes; it was truth
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on December 03, 2016, 10:07:49 AM
I think this is really great. I'm not that stoked on europe still being DSM but I'll support Zero forever, we grew up on that shit. I wish you all the best Jamie.

thanks dude
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on December 03, 2016, 10:09:05 AM
page 5 got heavy
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on December 03, 2016, 10:10:01 AM
why, Why, WHY DSM WOOD FOR EUROPE?

cause it's good and that's what we have in place. have you ridden a zero board from DSM? it's all myself and the team ride & we love them.

Do you all ride the impact plus or just the regular resin 7 DSM boards?

a few people ride impacts, but most everyone rides the resin 7 boards
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: shark tits on December 03, 2016, 10:17:45 AM
yo isuck, i got picked up hitchhiking in jackson ms by some guy w/ cali plates who said he was like a silent partner in original zero. think his name was chris. any truth to that baby back bullshit? i just nodded patronizing cause i didn't wanna loose a ride behind calling bullshit but who knows?

if his name was chad driving a toyota pick up, then yes; it was truth
man, have i got egg on my face! thanks for the ride, chad.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: cherry on December 03, 2016, 01:11:19 PM
I think this is really great. I'm not that stoked on europe still being DSM but I'll support Zero forever, we grew up on that shit. I wish you all the best Jamie.

Is this an Asian butthole thing? Can someone confirm this?
DSM stands for DookieSmotheredMen, so yes, confirmed. I think jamie is hiding something. Zero actually means 0, which is shaped like a butthole, so something fishy is going on. Im connecting the pieces, and you cant hide from your real intentions jamie. Jamie Thomas is asian butthole obsessed, and this is confirmed by my cousin who is a high up a Zero HQ, he works in sales. Wait untill the full story drops. Jamie has been into asian buttholes since 96'.

Bobby really gets to you guys huh??
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Mongoloid on December 03, 2016, 06:35:37 PM
page 5 got heavy


So much love for the acknowledgement of page 5!

Also the two Zero boards I've skated in the past year were excellent, and had great shape & pop. Don't let the Dwindle thing put you off folks.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on December 03, 2016, 07:25:59 PM
why, Why, WHY DSM WOOD FOR EUROPE?

cause it's good and that's what we have in place. have you ridden a zero board from DSM? it's all myself and the team ride & we love them.

Do you all ride the impact plus or just the regular resin 7 DSM boards?

a few people ride impacts, but most everyone rides the resin 7 boards

Thanks Jamie! Hopefully I can give Zero a try. Excited to see what you can do on you own with all your energy just focused on Zero. Best of luck!
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: stabbedbywiggers on December 03, 2016, 08:17:11 PM
Yeah dont blow it dude!
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: brwrxstl on December 03, 2016, 09:17:17 PM
we are setting up a small operation to sell & distribute Zero independently in the new year.
our goal is to focus on doing things small and well by servicing the best accounts and distributors. we'd like to continue to use dsm (dwindle) as our board manufacturer for the intl. market and we're setting up manufacturing for north america in the US & mexico.

the dwindle staff is amazing and they have been very supportive, but zero is small and what makes the most sense for us is to be independent and connect with the shops, distributors & end customers directly that appreciate the brand and it's history.

if you're a shop or distributor and would like to get set up to order zero directly, please send your email to: [email protected]
below is the message that dwindle sent out last week. obviously, feel free to talk shit, give your 2 cents/advice or ignore this post -jt

From: Bod Boyle, Dwindle Distribution 11/23/16
"This message is to act as a notice of change to the working relationship between Zero Skateboards and Dwindle Distribution. After the end of the initial term of the license/distribution agreement between Zero and Dwindle, Jamie Thomas has decided to run the brand independently. He will be setting up his offices in Carlsbad, California. Dwindle will continue to sell and deliver all Zero product until Jan 15th 2017."

Hell yeah.  Thank you. Can't wait to support the brand again. Hopefully by "going small" that you guys follow the blueprint Dill and AVE laid out with FA and only put out shit that fits your image. No more gimmicky mall stuff. Early Zero was one the best things to happen to skateboarding. Hopefully you go that direction again.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on December 04, 2016, 11:16:41 AM
Turn Franky pro!

working on it
and put JS on!!
and some other canadians.
No. The skateboard industry should have learned its lesson from guys like Paul Machnau, Alex Chalmers, Micky Papa, and a long list of others...nobody gives a shit about Canadians no matter how talented they are.
Go fuck yourselves. People have to move for their careers. Glad to know you don't appreciate Apples, Rick Howard or Rick McCrank.

Glad to know a mid-western transplant to cali has the right to judge what's cool and marketable, yet is self-righteous and xenophobic. Maybe I'd be salty if the most famous skaters from my city was Chaz Ortiz (Jon Dickson rips, but I wouldn't call him a beacon of personality).
Howard and McCrank fall under "new spot era."
That's a cute obsession you have with me. You know whats funny? I don't know or care about a single detail in your life, but I'm assuming you are some loser who has lived in the same fucking town his whole life, and thinks his provincial life is something to be proud of. Do you seriously think moving across the country to go to college is something bad? If so, that's pretty pathetic. "Ah jus werk in duh factury muh dad werked in, can't figuuur why people move." I'll take it you are indigenous Canadian? Live in Nunavut? hahahahahaha. loser.
Also, I'm not xenophobic. There are tons of great skaters from Brazil, Australia, Europe, and other places. The land of tall tees has produced plenty of good skaters, its just that none of them are marketable, which is why no matter how talented they are, nobody cares.
Example: JS whatever his name is that people in this thread are demanding Jamie put on. Who? And who cares?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: behavioralguide on December 04, 2016, 11:32:44 AM
Turn Franky pro!

working on it
and put JS on!!
and some other canadians.
No. The skateboard industry should have learned its lesson from guys like Paul Machnau, Alex Chalmers, Micky Papa, and a long list of others...nobody gives a shit about Canadians no matter how talented they are.
Go fuck yourselves. People have to move for their careers. Glad to know you don't appreciate Apples, Rick Howard or Rick McCrank.

Glad to know a mid-western transplant to cali has the right to judge what's cool and marketable, yet is self-righteous and xenophobic. Maybe I'd be salty if the most famous skaters from my city was Chaz Ortiz (Jon Dickson rips, but I wouldn't call him a beacon of personality).
Howard and McCrank fall under "new spot era."
That's a cute obsession you have with me. You know whats funny? I don't know or care about a single detail in your life, but I'm assuming you are some loser who has lived in the same fucking town his whole life, and thinks his provincial life is something to be proud of. Do you seriously think moving across the country to go to college is something bad? If so, that's pretty pathetic. "Ah jus werk in duh factury muh dad werked in, can't figuuur why people move." I'll take it you are indigenous Canadian? Live in Nunavut? hahahahahaha. loser.
Also, I'm not xenophobic. There are tons of great skaters from Brazil, Australia, Europe, and other places. The land of tall tees has produced plenty of good skaters, its just that none of them are marketable, which is why no matter how talented they are, nobody cares.
Example: JS whatever his name is that people in this thread are demanding Jamie put on. Who? And who cares?

 I wish u and your neo-liberal-core-marketing-realpolitik posts would just fuck off to some forum where everyone agrees w/ u.
closet sellout and nothing in the post above or reply u make is not gonna make u look like a xenofobe
'there a re tons of great skaters outside of america'  <<<< thx for sharing dweeb
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on December 04, 2016, 06:56:35 PM
Who are you talking to? Neoliberal? Sell out? Sell out to who exactly? You seem really confused. Call me xenophobic if you want, I don't get why pointing out that skateboarders from Canada aren't very marketable is xenophobic, especially when I've pointed out many nations that have marketable skate cultures. Y'all are claiming people like appleyard- a dude who won soty THIRTEEN YEARS AGO and has sucked since as a reason Canadians are hip and current.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: asakusa75 on December 04, 2016, 09:06:55 PM
Who are you talking to? Neoliberal? Sell out? Sell out to who exactly? You seem really confused. Call me xenophobic if you want, I don't get why pointing out that skateboarders from Canada aren't very marketable is xenophobic, especially when I've pointed out many nations that have marketable skate cultures. Y'all are claiming people like appleyard- a dude who won soty THIRTEEN YEARS AGO and has sucked since as a reason Canadians are hip and current.


Whoa, whoa, whoa... slow down a bit there buddy.

Once again, I would like to put this on the table, as evidence that Appleyard does not suck.
Mark Appleyard - Element Soul Rebel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzLf4amX9y8#)
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on December 04, 2016, 10:15:12 PM
yeah, element is past meh these days and "soul rebel" is a terrible name but if you're in your mid 30s and you can even do a 10th of those tricks you definitely do not suck
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: perverted super otaku! on December 05, 2016, 04:45:15 AM
Y'all are claiming people like appleyard- a dude who won soty THIRTEEN YEARS AGO and has sucked since as a reason Canadians are hip and current.
Maybe you're just out of touch with modern Canadian skating but, there is a bunch of young crews, putting out some of the best stuff in skating right now, Check these out if you're actually interested

www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYlsonalz5Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYlsonalz5Q#)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6L-OxCDD7Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6L-OxCDD7Y#)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NECwo1WMVw4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NECwo1WMVw4#)

www.vimeo.com/189277814 (http://www.vimeo.com/189277814)

www.vimeo.com/165233894 (http://www.vimeo.com/165233894)

https://kingshitmag.com/articles/2691-the-duluth-video-full-video (https://kingshitmag.com/articles/2691-the-duluth-video-full-video)


 
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: GeorgeHanson on December 05, 2016, 05:08:48 AM
Who are you talking to? Neoliberal? Sell out? Sell out to who exactly? You seem really confused. Call me xenophobic if you want, I don't get why pointing out that skateboarders from Canada aren't very marketable is xenophobic, especially when I've pointed out many nations that have marketable skate cultures. Y'all are claiming people like appleyard- a dude who won soty THIRTEEN YEARS AGO and has sucked since as a reason Canadians are hip and current.

Dime is pretty hip.

I agree with you though. RDS was Canada for a while and who ever gave a fuck?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: GeorgeHanson on December 05, 2016, 05:10:12 AM
On Zero though I wish it only the best.

Dying to live was one of my first videos and I'm still hyped on it.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on December 05, 2016, 10:00:36 AM
Who are you talking to? Neoliberal? Sell out? Sell out to who exactly? You seem really confused. Call me xenophobic if you want, I don't get why pointing out that skateboarders from Canada aren't very marketable is xenophobic, especially when I've pointed out many nations that have marketable skate cultures. Y'all are claiming people like appleyard- a dude who won soty THIRTEEN YEARS AGO and has sucked since as a reason Canadians are hip and current.


Whoa, whoa, whoa... slow down a bit there buddy.

Once again, I would like to put this on the table, as evidence that Appleyard does not suck.
Mark Appleyard - Element Soul Rebel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzLf4amX9y8#)
He doesn't suck entirely, maybe that's an exaggeration, but dude clearly is not nearly as progressive as he once was. This part shows he definitely isn't as good as he used to be though. 
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: MexicanSpaniard on December 05, 2016, 10:14:05 AM
Who are you talking to? Neoliberal? Sell out? Sell out to who exactly? You seem really confused. Call me xenophobic if you want, I don't get why pointing out that skateboarders from Canada aren't very marketable is xenophobic, especially when I've pointed out many nations that have marketable skate cultures. Y'all are claiming people like appleyard- a dude who won soty THIRTEEN YEARS AGO and has sucked since as a reason Canadians are hip and current.


Whoa, whoa, whoa... slow down a bit there buddy.

Once again, I would like to put this on the table, as evidence that Appleyard does not suck.
Mark Appleyard - Element Soul Rebel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzLf4amX9y8#)
He doesn't suck entirely, maybe that's an exaggeration, but dude clearly is not nearly as progressive as he once was. This part shows he definitely isn't as good as he used to be though.? 

That part is still really really good, all the slo-mo doesn't even bother me. I'd skate an Appleyard 8.25 board without embarrassment.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: ThrillOfItAll on December 05, 2016, 01:00:51 PM
Yo JT, whos distributing Zero in the UK now?

If you want to start small again, lets set up Misled Dist! I got a few heads to flow, got a clip to film, B&W London night mission - Zero Bold decks and tees ya get me cheif???

All the best with Zero! keeping the dream and memories alive!

PS - Thill of it all was what got me into skating so thanks for the good times!
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Watson on December 05, 2016, 02:08:11 PM
Yo JT, whos distributing Zero in the UK now?

If you want to start small again, lets set up Misled Dist! I got a few heads to flow, got a clip to film, B&W London night mission - Zero Bold decks and tees ya get me cheif???

All the best with Zero! keeping the dream and memories alive!

PS - Thill of it all was what got me into skating so thanks for the good times!

Slap message boards power moves.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: NoComply180 on December 05, 2016, 05:55:53 PM
I feel like a Zero renaissance is coming honestly. With guys like franky villani, chris wimer, etc and big skating getting kind of popular again (not that it went away) with kyle walker winning SOTY and stuff, I think Zero is in a good place.

If my local carried zero I'd pick one up for my next board. If they had 8.63+
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: jshnrz on December 05, 2016, 09:43:10 PM
cobra never gave you a call now that your back on your own feet? heck, one reason of him leaving zero going corpo and all right? anyways, tight to see the current riders :D grew up seeing lopez, stoked to see a full part of him soon and zero with the classic vibe.

cheers for more years! blessings.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Theme For A Jackal on December 05, 2016, 11:01:41 PM
imagine how horrified the priest is going to be now that jamie has to go to confession.

He's not even Catholic
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: 256 Ply on December 06, 2016, 01:12:54 AM
we'd like to continue to use dsm (dwindle) as our board manufacturer for the intl. market and we're setting up manufacturing for north america in the US & mexico.

cause it's good and that's what we have in place. have you ridden a zero board from DSM? it's all myself and the team ride & we love them.

Hey Jamie- Curious to know why you aren't using DSM for North America if DSM is the team's preferred wood?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: ThrillOfItAll on December 06, 2016, 05:10:57 AM
Yo JT, whos distributing Zero in the UK now?

If you want to start small again, lets set up Misled Dist! I got a few heads to flow, got a clip to film, B&W London night mission - Zero Bold decks and tees ya get me cheif???

All the best with Zero! keeping the dream and memories alive!

PS - Thill of it all was what got me into skating so thanks for the good times!

Slap message boards power moves.


Hahaha

Whoops!
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: perverted super otaku! on December 06, 2016, 05:42:01 AM
we'd like to continue to use dsm (dwindle) as our board manufacturer for the intl. market and we're setting up manufacturing for north america in the US & mexico.

cause it's good and that's what we have in place. have you ridden a zero board from DSM? it's all myself and the team ride & we love them.

Hey Jamie- Curious to know why you aren't using DSM for North America if DSM is the team's preferred wood?
It's probably hurting sales, due to a baseless yet commonly held belief that DSM/Chinese made boards are inferior, when in fact they are stiffer and longer lasting, true to shape, and free of the manufacturing defects(misldrilled holes) that plague other mfgs
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: BMCsteve on December 06, 2016, 07:49:44 AM
we'd like to continue to use dsm (dwindle) as our board manufacturer for the intl. market and we're setting up manufacturing for north america in the US & mexico.

cause it's good and that's what we have in place. have you ridden a zero board from DSM? it's all myself and the team ride & we love them.

Hey Jamie- Curious to know why you aren't using DSM for North America if DSM is the team's preferred wood?
It's probably hurting sales, due to a baseless yet commonly held belief that DSM/Chinese made boards are inferior, when in fact they are stiffer and longer lasting, true to shape, and free of the manufacturing defects(misldrilled holes) that plague other mfgs

Totally agree.  DSM is great wood but because it says "Make in China" people disregard it.  They have probably the best quality control and manufacturing in skating.

On another note, I'm stoked about this whole thing and will buy a board from the first run
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: ThrillOfItAll on December 06, 2016, 09:10:53 AM
DSM boards are sick! They hold shape, feel solid and snappy and they are a good price!

Just look at Palace - DSM boards - ?40-45. Most US boards are ?55-60

As skateboarders we tend to be full of shit when it comes to common sense. Lets face it, We are destoying someone else's property when skating street and DSM boards from China are good for the industry.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: stabbedbywiggers on December 06, 2016, 10:22:23 AM
Starting to like this more and more. It would be nice to go to the shop and see zero decks, like I used to. Instead of all these new hip companys like isle, vase, ceramic, penis, etc. covering the wall. Like I dunno even know what half the shit is now when I go to the shop. So much has slipped by me since I dropped my thrasher sub years ago.

Would by a zero, but nah Ill just keep nagging people for their old decks at the park.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: stevedave on December 06, 2016, 10:53:06 AM
if I were to give any advice (and my opinion is probably shit), but I'd say to really focus on the fact that every shop is different.  A lot of companies that want you to go direct with them, tend to try and get shops to take a baker's dozen on boards, etc. and sometimes thats more than they can afford, or takes up too much space on the wall.  The little shop in the middle of nowhere is as important as the most famous shops, even if they don't buy as much product. 
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: perverted super otaku! on December 06, 2016, 01:36:52 PM
DSM boards are sick! They hold shape, feel solid and snappy and they are a good price!

Just look at Palace - DSM boards - ?40-45. Most US boards are ?55-60

As skateboarders we tend to be full of shit when it comes to common sense. Lets face it, We are destoying someone else's property when skating street and DSM boards from China are good for the industry.
Same deal here, Dwindle brands 15-20 bucks cheaper than DLX brands, actually kind of bummed about Zero moving to BBS, as they and Cliche were my favorite brands using DSM Resin-7's, one resin 7 every drop would be dope, use bareback and wherever else for the rest and I think everyone can find a zero to roll with and enjoy
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: pointandclick on December 06, 2016, 05:03:54 PM
we'd like to continue to use dsm (dwindle) as our board manufacturer for the intl. market and we're setting up manufacturing for north america in the US & mexico.
why wouldnt you just try to set a president with keeping the wood what you guys like to skate and keep it cost effective. also does canada count are NA or INTL? because with every brand and mfg it seems to be different.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on December 06, 2016, 05:16:27 PM

Thanks Jamie! Hopefully I can give Zero a try. Excited to see what you can do on you own with all your energy just focused on Zero. Best of luck!
thanks dude!

Hell yeah. �Thank you. Can't wait to support the brand again. Hopefully by "going small" that you guys follow the blueprint Dill and AVE laid out with FA and only put out shit that fits your image. No more gimmicky mall stuff. Early Zero was one the best things to happen to skateboarding. Hopefully you go that direction again.
haha, yeah we've reissued all the OG shit this year for our 20 yr because it has always been our favorite. our goal is to focus on that aspect of our brand and create new shit that combines that history w a fresh perspective. should at least be interesting...

On Zero though I wish it only the best.
Dying to live was one of my first videos and I'm still hyped on it.
mucho love!

He doesn't suck entirely, maybe that's an exaggeration, but dude clearly is not nearly as progressive as he once was. This part shows he definitely isn't as good as he used to be though.�
not sure anyone can sustain the level they were at during their peak except for daewon & guy...

Y'all are claiming people like appleyard- a dude who won soty THIRTEEN YEARS AGO and has sucked since as a reason Canadians are hip and current.
Maybe you're just out of touch with modern Canadian skating but, there is a bunch of young crews, putting out some of the best stuff in skating right now, Check these out if you're actually interested
some of my favorite skateboarders are from other countries, but i think what gipper's trying to say is that since the majority of skateboarders are from the US it's harder for the general skate population to relate to people from other countries...

i love the canadians that have ridden for zero throughout theyears; keegan, tancowny, smith & js...

Yo JT, whos distributing Zero in the UK now?
If you want to start small again, lets set up Misled Dist! I got a few heads to flow, got a clip to film, B&W London night mission - Zero Bold decks and tees ya get me cheif???

All the best with Zero! keeping the dream and memories alive!

PS - Thill of it all was what got me into skating so thanks for the good times!
you might be onto something

I feel like a Zero renaissance is coming honestly. With guys like franky villani, chris wimer, etc and big skating getting kind of popular again (not that it went away) with kyle walker winning SOTY and stuff, I think Zero is in a good place.

If my local carried zero I'd pick one up for my next board. If they had 8.63+
we'll have 8.625's on the zero site in a few weeks.

Hey Jamie- Curious to know why you aren't using DSM for North America if DSM is the team's preferred wood?
we may have a unique opportunity to be involved w a new woodshop in the US, which will help us get boards made on a short time frame for collabs, small runs & limited stuff for the zero site. i feel like, now that the business in entirely our hands, local & purposeful is a dream worth chasing.

On another note, I'm stoked about this whole thing and will buy a board from the first run
cheers

if I were to give any advice (and my opinion is probably shit), but I'd say to really focus on the fact that every shop is different.� A lot of companies that want you to go direct with them, tend to try and get shops to take a baker's dozen on boards, etc. and sometimes thats more than they can afford, or takes up too much space on the wall.� The little shop in the middle of nowhere is as important as the most famous shops, even if they don't buy as much product.�
i agree and back your advice 100%
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Maggie on December 06, 2016, 05:17:56 PM
Have you ever done cocaine?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: straight on December 06, 2016, 05:20:06 PM
out of an asisns butthole
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on December 06, 2016, 05:21:31 PM
we'd like to continue to use dsm (dwindle) as our board manufacturer for the intl. market and we're setting up manufacturing for north america in the US & mexico.
why wouldnt you just try to set a president with keeping the wood what you guys like to skate and keep it cost effective. also does canada count are NA or INTL? because with every brand and mfg it seems to be different.

i haven't been on the business side of things for a while and i want to try some new shit; explore, experiment and basically do shit that makes sense to me now rather than following a formula that used to work; NA includes canada
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on December 06, 2016, 05:23:04 PM
Have you ever done cocaine?

i have not, never even been offered it; i'm a nerd huh
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: shark tits on December 06, 2016, 05:32:21 PM
yo isuck, paul d'ianno or bruce dickinson?
you've been on the cutting edge of sponsoring the rippingest girls in town [marissa/elissa] do you have your eyes on any hot young talent these days?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on December 06, 2016, 05:41:07 PM
yo isuck, paul d'ianno or bruce dickinson?
you've been on the cutting edge of sponsoring the rippingest girls in town [marissa/elissa] do you have your eyes on any hot young talent these days?

apples & oranges; first album if i had to pick
nah, i don't profile who we're trying to hook up. you think there's a chick out there that would fit zero?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: shark tits on December 06, 2016, 05:43:45 PM
yo isuck, paul d'ianno or bruce dickinson?
you've been on the cutting edge of sponsoring the rippingest girls in town [marissa/elissa] do you have your eyes on any hot young talent these days?

apples & oranges; first album if i had to pick
nah, i don't profile who we're trying to hook up. you think there's a chick out there that would fit zero?

i don't offhand but usually i learn of em through you/toy machine. for sure letcha know if i see one. i agree w/ iron maiden/iron maiden all day even though your wth song worked really well.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on December 06, 2016, 05:48:41 PM
Tell us a good Wade Burkitt story!
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: shit_for_brains on December 06, 2016, 06:19:44 PM
One time I spent all day with Jamie then afterwards I went and did cocaine/two chicks at the same time so transitive property blahblahblah Jamie isn't a nerd.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: neil. on December 06, 2016, 06:39:51 PM
will it be avail thru a dist in canada (centre) or.....?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: ducky darnsworth on December 06, 2016, 06:53:46 PM
i ollied a 6 before, can i get on flow? but on the real any 875+'s in the future? 8.62 is cool but that dont fit my thunder 151's
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: BacksideWallride on December 06, 2016, 07:03:54 PM
yo isuck, paul d'ianno or bruce dickinson?
you've been on the cutting edge of sponsoring the rippingest girls in town [marissa/elissa] do you have your eyes on any hot young talent these days?

apples & oranges; first album if i had to pick
nah, i don't profile who we're trying to hook up. you think there's a chick out there that would fit zero?


Yea. Umm think her name is "Marisa Dal Santo"

For real she was unbelievable. If I'm talking to Jamie Thomas thanks for years of footage (behind the lens and skating) since some Invisible video I got as a kid
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Berky on December 06, 2016, 07:23:17 PM
Can you bring back the 8.5 cole shallow grave shape? I can't find it anywhere and thats my favorite shape
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: nino brown on December 06, 2016, 08:21:23 PM
why didnt JS get fully on? seemed like a perfect match
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: snowman600 on December 06, 2016, 08:34:09 PM
yo isuck, paul d'ianno or bruce dickinson?
you've been on the cutting edge of sponsoring the rippingest girls in town [marissa/elissa] do you have your eyes on any hot young talent these days?

apples & oranges; first album if i had to pick
nah, i don't profile who we're trying to hook up. you think there's a chick out there that would fit zero?


lil nice girl if you can get her to change her name to lil mean girl  ;)
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on December 07, 2016, 12:06:20 AM
will it be avail thru a dist in canada (centre) or.....?

yeah, but we don't have it sorted yet; who's your fav

i ollied a 6 before, can i get on flow? but on the real any 875+'s in the future? 8.62 is cool but that dont fit my thunder 151's
i ride 8.5 and thunder 151's, but yeah we have 8.625 egg shapes

Can you bring back the 8.5 cole shallow grave shape? I can't find it anywhere and thats my favorite shape
we have that shape; it's our staple 8.5

why didnt JS get fully on? seemed like a perfect match
hopefully it'll happen soon, hes' filming a part

Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: christ0v on December 07, 2016, 03:15:13 AM
I just checked some of the graphics and they look pretty good. I grow up with zero, but never could afford one. Maybe now is the moment to get my first zero. Whats the WB on the 8,25 x 31.9 shape ?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: neil. on December 07, 2016, 04:49:31 AM
will it be avail thru a dist in canada (centre) or.....?

yeah, but we don't have it sorted yet; who's your fav



centre would be sweet.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: somethingmustbreaknow on December 07, 2016, 06:45:59 AM
yo isuck, do you like me?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Andmoreagain on December 07, 2016, 06:53:05 AM
Can you make a 9" American Zero popsicle special for me ?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: g.i.s.m. on December 07, 2016, 07:42:00 AM
WHERE IS SEAN YOUNG....
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on December 07, 2016, 01:15:35 PM
I just checked some of the graphics and they look pretty good. I grow up with zero, but never could afford one. Maybe now is the moment to get my first zero. Whats the WB on the 8,25 x 31.9 shape ?
14.25

yo isuck, do you like me?
do i know you?

Can you make a 9" American Zero popsicle special for me ?
haha, we don't have a 9" shape / for $100 though, we'll figure it ;)

WHERE IS SEAN YOUNG....
he runs a construction company in atlanta, ga
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: coneklr on December 07, 2016, 01:21:05 PM
I SUCK!, if you ever need video work ( complete with graphics or animations ) you should hit up Jason from Massena NY.  He's always been the biggest fan of you and Zero and has got amazing with what he can do and I'm sure he'd be psyched to hear from you.  Also, trying to find your Roark jeans and jacket as they look like quality pieces.  I wish I could check them out before ordering though but seems like they aren't in too many places.

Anyway good luck on your new path, I wish you the best of luck!
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: stabbedbywiggers on December 07, 2016, 01:25:03 PM
Can I have free shit? All the kids at the park want me to be their dad, I can show them the way of Zero and how thier parents should spend money on Zero products.

Think of it as investment flow.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: BacksideWallride on December 07, 2016, 02:01:10 PM
Chief denied my props! Even though I watch Misled Youth everyday!

Joking, carry on
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: somethingmustbreaknow on December 07, 2016, 02:02:07 PM
yo isuck, do you like me?
do i know you?
no you don't, but that wasn't the question. so, do you like me?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: calvinsdream on December 07, 2016, 02:11:56 PM
yo isuck, paul d'ianno or bruce dickinson?
you've been on the cutting edge of sponsoring the rippingest girls in town [marissa/elissa] do you have your eyes on any hot young talent these days?

apples & oranges; first album if i had to pick
nah, i don't profile who we're trying to hook up. you think there's a chick out there that would fit zero?


I think there was some asian woman on skateline a while back (2-3 months?) that was skating rails - might be a good am from what I remember
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: stabbedbywiggers on December 07, 2016, 02:16:35 PM
I think there was some asian woman on skateline a while back (2-3 months?) that was skating rails - might be a good am from what I remember
Asian, like asian butthole?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Rick Sanchez on December 07, 2016, 02:31:11 PM
I think there was some asian woman on skateline a while back (2-3 months?) that was skating rails - might be a good am from what I remember
Asian, like asian butthole?

*record scratch* *freeze frame* *looks at camera*

here we go again!  :o
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Righteous Victim on December 07, 2016, 02:45:22 PM
yo isuck, paul d'ianno or bruce dickinson?
you've been on the cutting edge of sponsoring the rippingest girls in town [marissa/elissa] do you have your eyes on any hot young talent these days?

apples & oranges; first album if i had to pick
nah, i don't profile who we're trying to hook up. you think there's a chick out there that would fit zero?


I think there was some asian woman on skateline a while back (2-3 months?) that was skating rails - might be a good am from what I remember
That Japanese girl who skates with a surgical mask?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on December 07, 2016, 03:00:50 PM
yo isuck, do you like me?
do i know you?
no you don't, but that wasn't the question. so, do you like me?

sure, why not
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: shark tits on December 07, 2016, 03:21:12 PM
can you share a jim gagne story w/ us? every pro has at least one :)
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on December 07, 2016, 06:37:57 PM
can you share a jim gagne story w/ us? every pro has at least one :)

sorry, nothing comes to mind; love gagne though
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: shit_for_brains on December 07, 2016, 06:41:41 PM
Solid answer.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: perverted super otaku! on December 07, 2016, 06:42:12 PM
yo isuck, paul d'ianno or bruce dickinson?
you've been on the cutting edge of sponsoring the rippingest girls in town [marissa/elissa] do you have your eyes on any hot young talent these days?

apples & oranges; first album if i had to pick
nah, i don't profile who we're trying to hook up. you think there's a chick out there that would fit zero?


I think there was some asian woman on skateline a while back (2-3 months?) that was skating rails - might be a good am from what I remember
That Japanese girl who skates with a surgical mask?
Kotone Nishimura, would be dope to see her on Zero
Shared part with her sister
 www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlXLuJpoFGE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlXLuJpoFGE#)
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Righteous Victim on December 07, 2016, 07:08:35 PM
yo isuck, paul d'ianno or bruce dickinson?
you've been on the cutting edge of sponsoring the rippingest girls in town [marissa/elissa] do you have your eyes on any hot young talent these days?

apples & oranges; first album if i had to pick
nah, i don't profile who we're trying to hook up. you think there's a chick out there that would fit zero?


I think there was some asian woman on skateline a while back (2-3 months?) that was skating rails - might be a good am from what I remember
That Japanese girl who skates with a surgical mask?
Kotone Nishimura, would be dope to see her on Zero
Damn, I thought she always wore the mask. That would've been cool. Pink pants, flannel shirt, surgical mask and a big handrail.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: doyle on December 07, 2016, 08:08:05 PM
will it be avail thru a dist in canada (centre) or.....?

yeah, but we don't have it sorted yet; who's your fav

http://www.grandtrading.ca/ (http://www.grandtrading.ca/)
https://www.instagram.com/grandtrading/ (https://www.instagram.com/grandtrading/)
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Windsor Knot on December 08, 2016, 12:31:55 AM
I love Zero I feel like this forum goes through the same cycles over and over as follows:

Strange world comes out:

'wow I love zero! What a video! I actually love stairs and handrails'

Time passes after strange world:

'zero is so whack,  I can't believe anyone would ride for them.  Rails are so boring,  JT is a kook'

Cold war comes out

'wow what a video! Best video I seen in forever! I love thrashing and zero and rails'

Time passes:

'Zero so lame,  I love shaped board brands only '

Latest no cash value comes out,  dane etc

' I love dane,  he deserves a legit board sponsor,  I love zero'


And throughout everyone hates on Jamie Thomas non stop,  until he appears on a thread and everyone goes bananas worshipping him and his legacy.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: neil. on December 08, 2016, 05:06:25 AM
will it be avail thru a dist in canada (centre) or.....?

yeah, but we don't have it sorted yet; who's your fav

http://www.grandtrading.ca/ (http://www.grandtrading.ca/)
https://www.instagram.com/grandtrading/ (https://www.instagram.com/grandtrading/)

Oh yeah nothing but love for grand trading.  :)
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: somethingmustbreaknow on December 08, 2016, 10:16:56 AM
yo isuck, do you like me?
do i know you?
no you don't, but that wasn't the question. so, do you like me?

sure, why not
thanks jamie. like you too.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Iceman on December 08, 2016, 11:25:15 AM
I love Zero I feel like this forum goes through the same cycles over and over as follows:

Strange world comes out:

'wow I love zero! What a video! I actually love stairs and handrails'

Time passes after strange world:

'zero is so whack,  I can't believe anyone would ride for them.  Rails are so boring,  JT is a kook'

Cold war comes out

'wow what a video! Best video I seen in forever! I love thrashing and zero and rails'

Time passes:

'Zero so lame,  I love shaped board brands only '

Latest no cash value comes out,  dane etc

' I love dane,  he deserves a legit board sponsor,  I love zero'


And throughout everyone hates on Jamie Thomas non stop,  until he appears on a thread and everyone goes bananas worshipping him and his legacy.
it's almost as if you're dumb enough to think that all of slap has one persona. oh wait, you are.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: doomstation55 on December 08, 2016, 12:48:49 PM
I love Zero I feel like this forum goes through the same cycles over and over as follows:

Strange world comes out:

'wow I love zero! What a video! I actually love stairs and handrails'

Time passes after strange world:

'zero is so whack,  I can't believe anyone would ride for them.  Rails are so boring,  JT is a kook'

Cold war comes out

'wow what a video! Best video I seen in forever! I love thrashing and zero and rails'

Time passes:

'Zero so lame,  I love shaped board brands only '

Latest no cash value comes out,  dane etc

' I love dane,  he deserves a legit board sponsor,  I love zero'


And throughout everyone hates on Jamie Thomas non stop,  until he appears on a thread and everyone goes bananas worshipping him and his legacy.
it's almost as if you're dumb enough to think that all of slap has one persona. oh wait, you are.

Or that people dick ride anyone who actually posts here

Or that people say they'll "definitely" buy someone's next board/shoe/etc. after a video part than probably never do, which is why I miss the "put your money where your mouth is" shit
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Matthew_James on December 08, 2016, 05:08:52 PM
we are setting up a small operation to sell & distribute Zero independently in the new year.
our goal is to focus on doing things small and well by servicing the best accounts and distributors. we'd like to continue to use dsm (dwindle) as our board manufacturer for the intl. market and we're setting up manufacturing for north america in the US & mexico.

the dwindle staff is amazing and they have been very supportive, but zero is small and what makes the most sense for us is to be independent and connect with the shops, distributors & end customers directly that appreciate the brand and it's history.

if you're a shop or distributor and would like to get set up to order zero directly, please send your email to: [email protected]
below is the message that dwindle sent out last week. obviously, feel free to talk shit, give your 2 cents/advice or ignore this post -jt

From: Bod Boyle, Dwindle Distribution 11/23/16
"This message is to act as a notice of change to the working relationship between Zero Skateboards and Dwindle Distribution. After the end of the initial term of the license/distribution agreement between Zero and Dwindle, Jamie Thomas has decided to run the brand independently. He will be setting up his offices in Carlsbad, California. Dwindle will continue to sell and deliver all Zero product until Jan 15th 2017."

I'll buy a board and support the cause if you do the right thing and put Forrest back on....
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: zippy z on December 08, 2016, 05:40:04 PM
I SUCK, please be good to Chad when he gets out there in a month or so. Thanks.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: stabbedbywiggers on December 08, 2016, 05:58:51 PM
Send me a board Jamie, you fuckin hoarder.
(https://i2.wp.com/garagedayscollection.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/IMG_0973.jpg?resize=1024%2C683)
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on December 08, 2016, 06:02:48 PM
can you share a jim gagne story w/ us? every pro has at least one :)

sorry, nothing comes to mind; love gagne though
Where's my Wade Burkitt story? >:(
You got me on ignore Chief?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: yungthug on December 08, 2016, 06:13:08 PM
Hopping on board the "I want free stuff" train
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: pabloalvarado on December 09, 2016, 09:03:35 AM
I love Zero I feel like this forum goes through the same cycles over and over as follows:

Strange world comes out:

'wow I love zero! What a video! I actually love stairs and handrails'

Time passes after strange world:

'zero is so whack,  I can't believe anyone would ride for them.  Rails are so boring,  JT is a kook'

Cold war comes out

'wow what a video! Best video I seen in forever! I love thrashing and zero and rails'

Time passes:

'Zero so lame,  I love shaped board brands only '

Latest no cash value comes out,  dane etc

' I love dane,  he deserves a legit board sponsor,  I love zero'


And throughout everyone hates on Jamie Thomas non stop,  until he appears on a thread and everyone goes bananas worshipping him and his legacy.
it's almost as if you're dumb enough to think that all of slap has one persona. oh wait, you are.

Or that people dick ride anyone who actually posts here

Or that people say they'll "definitely" buy someone's next board/shoe/etc. after a video part than probably never do, which is why I miss the "put your money where your mouth is" shit

That was always around april, right ? That thread should be forever around.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Watson on December 09, 2016, 09:11:16 AM
Send me a board Jamie, you fuckin hoarder.
(https://i2.wp.com/garagedayscollection.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/IMG_0973.jpg?resize=1024%2C683)

Why are all those boards on blankets? What's wrong with the ground? I understand not wanting to scratch up the graphics, but boards face up on asphalt temporarily is pretty safe. I do it all the time for product shots for the shop.

Also where did all those blankets come from? Did you buy them just to take this photo?

This photo poses so many questions for me.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: shit_for_brains on December 09, 2016, 09:32:00 AM
I knew a handful of the geniuses Jamie had working in the BB warehouse and I wouldn't trust those guys to place light pieces of wood in a parking lot without them fucking it up either.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: h00man on December 09, 2016, 09:46:59 AM
Please change name of thread to "Jamie Thomas AMA"
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Fenzadill on December 09, 2016, 10:25:21 AM
i havent logged in to slap in at least 6 months but jamie what is good with those blankets fr
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Slappydarkslide on December 09, 2016, 11:18:29 AM
I was working for a shop a long time ago during a Zero tour, around the time Mystery was being introduced.  We had the line start outside of the shop and would let kids in once the team got in and situated.  There were about 10 of us in the shop.  Jamie was the first to come in and for some reason I thought it would be funny to run in front of everyone, put my hand on my forehead, gasp "Jamie!" and pretend to faint.  Being new, young and dumb, I knew this was my chance to shine among my coworkers.  Wrong.  Instant cringe.  By the way, I'm a huge Jamie Thomas fan then and now.  The owner was pissed and I don't even know if Jamie even saw.  I was made to ride in the van to give directions to the demo as some form of punishment.  I couldn't have been more stoked.   The best part was they gave me a Mystery shirt in the van and I immediately put it on.  When the vans rolled up to the park they were mobbed by the kids.  I got out of the van wearing my shirt and everyone thought I was on Mystery.. It rained that day so no one skated....
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Watson on December 09, 2016, 01:55:09 PM
This:

(http://i.imgur.com/Zbbh8UM.png)

Made me make this:

(http://i.imgur.com/zb6PBIh.jpg)
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: ThrillOfItAll on December 10, 2016, 02:52:59 PM

Yo JT, whos distributing Zero in the UK now?
If you want to start small again, lets set up Misled Dist! I got a few heads to flow, got a clip to film, B&W London night mission - Zero Bold decks and tees ya get me cheif???

All the best with Zero! keeping the dream and memories alive!

PS - Thill of it all was what got me into skating so thanks for the good times!
you might be onto something




I hope i am haha means my ocd/autism is doing something right!

The whole Zero Army, Bold Decks and black and white video just feels so right for zero right now and i feel can be current hold its own in todays climate of companys/brands.


Whats Lyndsey Robinson upto these days?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Lurper on December 11, 2016, 11:54:25 AM
zero boards with better wood now?  sounds good, good luck man

I feel we are all forgetting Zero was one of the first companies to leave America and start producing in Mexico. Zero has produced sub-par boards for over a decade (not just since 2014 when Thomas moved Zero over to Dwindle). While Powell was the first skate company to really try to start producing outside of the States (1980s - China), Thomas and Mangum--along with the guys at Dwindle--help set the trend of non-American/Canadian made boards when it came to "new-school" skateboarding. (Note: According to Transworld Business, in 2004, the guys working at Thomas's factory in Mexico were making 45-55 dollars a week.)

My impression is that Thomas has sought out lower cost rather than quality for quite some time now and that along with skateboarding's continued decline in popularity, and the coming of new trends make it difficult for Zero to be the same company it was in 2002. We could also argue about brand image, marketing strategy, and various rumors but that would take us no where.

However, the key issue isn't just Thomas's pursuit of lower-costs (nor is he alone in this business model), we also need to look at our desire for cheap consumer goods, and the shop's need to produce some profit to stay in business. It is amazing how little those of us in the US are willing to pay for a our skate goods. Moreover, it is good to remember that the board wars of 2001-2006 weren't just blanks vs pro boards, it was shop boards vs blanks vs pro boards. What is more important supporting the local shop or supporting the pro company? If we didn't expect pro-boards with grip to cost $45 maybe we could do both at the same time.

http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/products/offshore-manufacturing-alternative-black-box-has-found-a-way-to-lower-costs-without-going/ (http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/products/offshore-manufacturing-alternative-black-box-has-found-a-way-to-lower-costs-without-going/)

http://skateboarding.transworld.net/news/offshore-manufacturing-alternative-black-box-has-found-a-way-to-lower-costs-without-going/ (http://skateboarding.transworld.net/news/offshore-manufacturing-alternative-black-box-has-found-a-way-to-lower-costs-without-going/)
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Grind King Rims on December 11, 2016, 03:23:51 PM

Whats Lyndsey Robinson upto these days?

Also, have you seen the Ryan Smith thread? Is he okay these days?

Chief, would you be down for an official SLAP pals Q&A?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: shark tits on December 11, 2016, 03:29:49 PM

Whats Lyndsey Robinson upto these days?


Chief, would you be down for an official SLAP pals Q&A?
way to waste your one question to the chief!
dear jamie, we have a saying here 'as jt's hairline goes, so goes central mass'. our economy was set to tank 21 yrs ago when you showed recession but then every video part your hairline and by extension, our economy bounced back. the bush yrs were lean yrs but your mane was strong under obama's first 4 yrs. last 4, haven't been super hot.
how have you maintained hair when it looked like you were going marc johnson way back yet every yr you held on by force of will? is going bald a choice? can you retain your follicles through sheer ferocity of spirit? jean-paul sartre said 'after a certain age a man is responsible for how his face looks'.
agree? disagree?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Grind King Rims on December 11, 2016, 03:46:59 PM

Whats Lyndsey Robinson upto these days?


Chief, would you be down for an official SLAP pals Q&A?
way to waste your one question to the chief!
dear jamie, we have a saying here 'as jt's hairline goes, so goes central mass'. our economy was set to tank 21 yrs ago when you showed recession but then every video part your hairline and by extension, our economy bounced back. the bush yrs were lean yrs but your mane was strong under obama's first 4 yrs. last 4, haven't been super hot.
how have you maintained hair when it looked like you were going marc johnson way back yet every yr you held on by force of will? is going bald a choice? can you retain your follicles through sheer ferocity of spirit? jean-paul sartre said 'after a certain age a man is responsible for how his face looks'.
agree? disagree?

That was Camus, get out of my way!

Chief! Chief! Grind King Rims, Pressure Flip Monthly: would you care to comment on the twenty year rule in skateboarding? Shaped boards and board rails are in the wayside, how would you feel about the return of 7.5 sized boards and phantom trucks?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: shark tits on December 11, 2016, 03:57:00 PM
gnar'd for being way existential like ren and stimpy
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: stabbedbywiggers on December 11, 2016, 04:01:00 PM
http://asianbutthole.tumblr.com/ (http://asianbutthole.tumblr.com/)
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: 20matar on December 11, 2016, 05:42:53 PM
Chief, I'm not going to make a new thread asking for anything, but here's your opportunity to (maybe) sell me something. Since this thread became somewhat of an AMA and all. I saw an old Rattray deck for sale, one with a big blue gorilla looking all shook. The price is kinda OK, it's a bit too narrow for my 149 trucks, but I'd like to think that, somehow, I'm buying something from one of the all-time greats and a fellow PAL, so I'm torn. Should I bite the bullet and buy it? Best regards.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Iceman on December 11, 2016, 05:44:52 PM
zero boards with better wood now?  sounds good, good luck man

I feel we are all forgetting Zero was one of the first companies to leave America and start producing in Mexico. Zero has produced sub-par boards for over a decade (not just since 2014 when Thomas moved Zero over to Dwindle). While Powell was the first skate company to really try to start producing outside of the States (1980s - China), Thomas and Mangum--along with the guys at Dwindle--help set the trend of non-American/Canadian made boards when it came to "new-school" skateboarding. (Note: According to Transworld Business, in 2004, the guys working at Thomas's factory in Mexico were making 45-55 dollars a week.)

My impression is that Thomas has sought out lower cost rather than quality for quite some time now and that
along with skateboarding's continued decline in popularity, and the coming of new trends make it difficult for Zero to be the same company it was in 2002. We could also argue about brand image, marketing strategy, and various rumors but that would take us no where.

However, the key issue isn't just Thomas's pursuit of lower-costs (nor is he alone in this business model), we also need to look at our desire for cheap consumer goods, and the shop's need to produce some profit to stay in business. It is amazing how little those of us in the US are willing to pay for a our skate goods. Moreover, it is good to remember that the board wars of 2001-2006 weren't just blanks vs pro boards, it was shop boards vs blanks vs pro boards. What is more important supporting the local shop or supporting the pro company? If we didn't expect pro-boards with grip to cost $45 maybe we could do both at the same time.


http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/products/offshore-manufacturing-alternative-black-box-has-found-a-way-to-lower-costs-without-going/ (http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/products/offshore-manufacturing-alternative-black-box-has-found-a-way-to-lower-costs-without-going/)

http://skateboarding.transworld.net/news/offshore-manufacturing-alternative-black-box-has-found-a-way-to-lower-costs-without-going/ (http://skateboarding.transworld.net/news/offshore-manufacturing-alternative-black-box-has-found-a-way-to-lower-costs-without-going/)
shit's exploding bruh
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Lurper on December 11, 2016, 06:39:34 PM
zero boards with better wood now?  sounds good, good luck man

I feel we are all forgetting Zero was one of the first companies to leave America and start producing in Mexico. Zero has produced sub-par boards for over a decade (not just since 2014 when Thomas moved Zero over to Dwindle). While Powell was the first skate company to really try to start producing outside of the States (1980s - China), Thomas and Mangum--along with the guys at Dwindle--help set the trend of non-American/Canadian made boards when it came to "new-school" skateboarding. (Note: According to Transworld Business, in 2004, the guys working at Thomas's factory in Mexico were making 45-55 dollars a week.)

My impression is that Thomas has sought out lower cost rather than quality for quite some time now and that
along with skateboarding's continued decline in popularity, and the coming of new trends make it difficult for Zero to be the same company it was in 2002. We could also argue about brand image, marketing strategy, and various rumors but that would take us no where.

However, the key issue isn't just Thomas's pursuit of lower-costs (nor is he alone in this business model), we also need to look at our desire for cheap consumer goods, and the shop's need to produce some profit to stay in business. It is amazing how little those of us in the US are willing to pay for a our skate goods. Moreover, it is good to remember that the board wars of 2001-2006 weren't just blanks vs pro boards, it was shop boards vs blanks vs pro boards. What is more important supporting the local shop or supporting the pro company? If we didn't expect pro-boards with grip to cost $45 maybe we could do both at the same time.


http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/products/offshore-manufacturing-alternative-black-box-has-found-a-way-to-lower-costs-without-going/ (http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/products/offshore-manufacturing-alternative-black-box-has-found-a-way-to-lower-costs-without-going/)

http://skateboarding.transworld.net/news/offshore-manufacturing-alternative-black-box-has-found-a-way-to-lower-costs-without-going/ (http://skateboarding.transworld.net/news/offshore-manufacturing-alternative-black-box-has-found-a-way-to-lower-costs-without-going/)
shit's exploding bruh

Iceman, let's see if I can convince you that participation and interest in skateboarding has significantly declined from the boom of the early 2000's.

First, a quick search on Google Trends indicates that "skateboarding" and "skateboard" are being searched significantly less often that they had in the past. While this is not a direct indicator of participation, it is probably good enough for the slap forum. (Excuse the Russian.)

(https://s29.postimg.org/6zs28vvrr/Screen_Trends.png)

Second, at IASC's 2016 Skate Retailing Summit summary stated, "many retailers openly admitted they have seen a decline in young skaters at their shops." Once again not a direct indicator of participation but then again it is yet another piece of evidence that skateboarding is declining among a key market that we need to keep it going. http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/news/skate-summit-2016-top-takeaways/ (http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/news/skate-summit-2016-top-takeaways/)

Third, Statista.com claims there were 10.13 million skaters in the US in 2006 and now we are at 6.44. However, since this is pay-for-play website and they don't explain their methods we can't fully trust this data.  https://www.statista.com/statistics/191308/participants-in-skateboarding-in-the-us-since-2006/ (https://www.statista.com/statistics/191308/participants-in-skateboarding-in-the-us-since-2006/)

If you have evidence that this "shit's exploding," I'd like to see it and really I'd like you to prove me wrong. My town needs to rehab its park and if I can provide strong evidence that skateboarding is exploding, maybe that'll increase the chances of them fixing the park.

Modify: Typo and added missing link.

Also, IASC's numbers point to an overall decline see http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/features/the-state-of-skate-2016/. (http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/features/the-state-of-skate-2016/.)
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: fulltechnicalskizzy on December 11, 2016, 07:03:38 PM
The numbers on asian butthole were unavailable :-[
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: stabbedbywiggers on December 11, 2016, 07:16:28 PM
If you have evidence that this "shit's exploding," I'd like to see it and really I'd like you to prove me wrong.
Here, evidence
(http://cdn4.images.motherlessmedia.com/images/ECB8A6D.gif?fs=opencloud)

 
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: tobey on December 11, 2016, 07:36:34 PM
I really need to stop making a late night snack then checking this thread first.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Iceman on December 11, 2016, 08:15:34 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ruBs8Ga.jpg)
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: GinosGroceries on December 11, 2016, 08:52:15 PM
That reminds me, I need to buy more snickers bars
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Lurper on December 11, 2016, 09:19:56 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ruBs8Ga.jpg)

I couldn't remember my password (or the E-mail associated with this account) for months, so I was a little over excited to participate today when I was finally able to login.   :D
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Chavo on December 11, 2016, 10:36:28 PM
Out of that 6 million, most of those are longboarders. Good luck, Chief.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Fecal Fury on December 12, 2016, 01:24:46 AM
Send me a board Jamie, you fuckin hoarder.
(https://i2.wp.com/garagedayscollection.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/IMG_0973.jpg?resize=1024%2C683)

Why are all those boards on blankets? What's wrong with the ground? I understand not wanting to scratch up the graphics, but boards face up on asphalt temporarily is pretty safe. I do it all the time for product shots for the shop.

Also where did all those blankets come from? Did you buy them just to take this photo?

This photo poses so many questions for me.

I'm pretty sure I see a black fitted sheet, black flat sheet, a couple of quilts, and maybe a duvet cover under those boards.

Chief, did you just unmake your bed to flex on us with your almighty wood?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on December 12, 2016, 12:04:19 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ruBs8Ga.jpg)
Dude just dropped knowledge. Why you hating?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Watson on December 12, 2016, 12:41:38 PM
A post in the Embarrassment Thread reminded me that one time I was having anal sex with an Asian girl and things got a little messy down there and I got shit all over my dick. I was really bummed about it the time but after reading this thread perhaps it was a customary sign of affection?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: shit_for_brains on December 12, 2016, 12:51:12 PM
The only girls you could backdoor and not get an elf shoe (shit on your dick) are porno girls. Watson you and I are similar in a lot of these matters I feel, so don't you sit there and tell me you were bothered for more than 3 seconds by it.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Grind King Rims on December 12, 2016, 01:00:36 PM
The only girls you could backdoor and not get an elf shoe (shit on your dick) are porno girls. Watson you and I are similar in a lot of these matters I feel, so don't you sit there and tell me you were bothered for more than 3 seconds by it.

Elf Shoe, that's a new one.
Like, if it's a pre-meditated hook up, it's not hard to do an enema and make sure you're in the clear. Maybe it's more common among gays, but since anal is more of a special event for straights, I'd have thought the girl would be down to set it up right.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Watson on December 12, 2016, 01:01:34 PM
I don't know dude, that's the only time I've ever gotten creamy poo cream on my dick when engaging in such acts. It was creamy and stinky. I was bothered. Also I didn't like her so it may have been a different story if it happened with someone else. I wiped my wiener on a towel in the bathroom and went home.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: shit_for_brains on December 12, 2016, 02:08:58 PM
I don't know dude, that's the only time I've ever gotten creamy poo cream on my dick when engaging in such acts. It was creamy and stinky. I was bothered. Also I didn't like her so it may have been a different story if it happened with someone else. I wiped my wiener on a towel in the bathroom and went home.

It's complicated. I would applaud her if there were no poo but I wouldn't damn her if there was. That's were poo lives, after all. If I went in my shed I couldn't get mad about all the bees because I know my shed is full of bees.

I also had anal sex with an Asian girl I didn't like, but I took a full on shower in her roommate's bathroom (I really didn't like her) which was actually pleasant and luxurious and and then refused a ride home from her. "It's pretty far..." "I SAID NO." and it was a really weird night all in all. I walked home in November in Chicago across several neighborhoods even though there are taxis, buses, and trains I could've taken. I think it was a penance walk because I felt really ashamed of the whole thing even though it was kind of cool. Writing this has been good for me.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: BacksideWallride on December 12, 2016, 02:21:47 PM
So now it's the Scat Slap board.

Jamie were you in a 70's throwback band when you wore that headband and did that one foot 50-50?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: ducky darnsworth on December 12, 2016, 02:44:48 PM
Sick Animation- I ain't scared (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDk1dvlXNn8#)
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: fang on December 12, 2016, 02:57:03 PM
Congrats on going solo.

Now if you can reissue the skeleton graphic from 2001, I would be psyched. I think I skated 6 of those in a row. I cleared out the online places I could find at the time. (those were 7.75 at that time right?)

Even more, if you could put that graphic on a 1992 football shaped deck, I'd ride those until death. I love those shapes and that's one of my fave graphics ever (also a Misfits fan)

Also skated a bunch of the 3 skulls w/blood decks. Oh, and (wish I still had this) I had this old Toy Machine monster hoodie that had "Zero" (bold logo) screened on the upper back (Tum Yeto tag). Always thought that was awesome. Dunno why/how/when I got rid of that, sucks.

Anyway, thanks for all the great stuff over the years
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: h00man on December 12, 2016, 03:44:45 PM
Never thought of putting my dick in the poop hole. How do you guys muster the strength to do such a feat!?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: shit_for_brains on December 12, 2016, 03:52:34 PM
You just be kind of gross.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: shark tits on December 12, 2016, 03:56:29 PM
met a betrothed girl on greyhound that i kept in touch w/ til she was single. entered the backdoor one time and upon releasing from there my penis brought  in it's wake a poocano! it was unholy terror for real!
we usedta call the froth of semen, lube and liquid shite 'santorum' and man, santorum is some foul shit!
takes a lot for me to feel compelled to take a shower but that was one of those days.
kinda odd, this girl could come from ass fuckery. i know what you're thinking and no, she wasn't born w/ a prostate but somehow or another it was close enough to her front that it worked.
she was all sorts of screwed up, her step daddy got her started young.
god, don't zap me for saying this but shoutout all the bad stepdads sexualizing their stepdaughters at a young age.
lowkey you're doing god's work....
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Chris Hansen is back on December 12, 2016, 04:47:36 PM
I need a shower after reading that.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: StabMasterArson on December 12, 2016, 05:38:17 PM
met a betrothed girl on greyhound that i kept in touch w/ til she was single. entered the backdoor one time and upon releasing from there my penis brought  in it's wake a poocano! it was unholy terror for real!
we usedta call the froth of semen, lube and liquid shite 'santorum' and man, santorum is some foul shit!
takes a lot for me to feel compelled to take a shower but that was one of those days.
kinda odd, this girl could come from ass fuckery. i know what you're thinking and no, she wasn't born w/ a prostate but somehow or another it was close enough to her front that it worked.
she was all sorts of screwed up, her step daddy got her started young.
god, don't zap me for saying this but shoutout all the bad stepdads sexualizing their stepdaughters at a young age.
lowkey you're doing god's work....


That isn't funny, clever or cute. You are human garbage.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: fulltechnicalskizzy on December 12, 2016, 05:43:55 PM


That isn't funny, clever, cute, or untrue.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: NickDagger on December 12, 2016, 06:16:26 PM
Where Rattray @?

One of my favorites. Is he a Nike TM or something now?  :-\  Would love to see another part from him
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: PC500 on December 12, 2016, 08:34:08 PM
met a betrothed girl on greyhound that i kept in touch w/ til she was single. entered the backdoor one time and upon releasing from there my penis brought  in it's wake a poocano! it was unholy terror for real!
we usedta call the froth of semen, lube and liquid shite 'santorum' and man, santorum is some foul shit!
takes a lot for me to feel compelled to take a shower but that was one of those days.
kinda odd, this girl could come from ass fuckery. i know what you're thinking and no, she wasn't born w/ a prostate but somehow or another it was close enough to her front that it worked.
she was all sorts of screwed up, her step daddy got her started young.
god, don't zap me for saying this but shoutout all the bad stepdads sexualizing their stepdaughters at a young age.
lowkey you're doing god's work....


That isn't funny, clever or cute. You are human garbage.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: shark tits on December 13, 2016, 06:40:26 AM
i'm sorry you didn't like my joke mr stabmaster but isn't there a rule that people who have been to prison aren't allowed to criticize people who haven't?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: shit_for_brains on December 13, 2016, 06:42:22 AM
i'm sorry you didn't like my joke mr stabmaster but isn't there a rule that people who have been to prison aren't allowed to criticize people who haven't?

No there are too many free retards in the world for a rule like that. You have to be provably smarter than the person you're criticizing which might not be so easy considering your post history and fly-by-night beekeeping.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Watson on December 13, 2016, 09:01:14 AM
Thanks for ruining our sexy asian scat thread, you jerk.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: SodaJerk on December 13, 2016, 12:34:01 PM
I've had shit dick twice, ain't no biggie. No poocano's just a little two toning.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Grind King Rims on December 13, 2016, 04:16:55 PM
Honestly, in my experience, the dirt path has been dry almost every time I took the back woods. Sure, you get that smelly lube mix after a while, but that's fine.

One time I got shit dick and it smelt so bad I had to fake cum. Just moaned and spat on his back. Fucking gross, but I was playing with fire, in fairness.

Anyway, Chief, how are all the lads from Dying to Live doing?
Would you write an autobiography?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: straight on December 13, 2016, 08:03:00 PM
add korean to the different styles of slap BBQ
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: doublesteveburger on December 13, 2016, 10:06:20 PM
I wish I could frame threads like these on my wall like art.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: StabMasterArson on December 13, 2016, 11:18:36 PM
i'm sorry you didn't like my joke mr stabmaster but isn't there a rule that people who have been to prison aren't allowed to criticize people who haven't?
My fault dude. Let's just ignore the fact you're tipping your hat to pedophiles. 
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: smokecrack on December 14, 2016, 01:29:54 AM
Shark Tits is pro-pedos, confirmed. You dun goofed, man.

#pizzagate (#post_pizzagate)
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: shark tits on December 14, 2016, 09:25:29 AM
i was being smarmy silver linings. it's like everyone wants to eat meat but castigate anyone who kills an animal. everyone loves sluts but don't wanna think about where they come from.
if you can't grasp nuance you shouldn't be allowed to read my posts. might be some truth to what i say but mostly i'm trying to be silly.
i did some juvie time w/ kid touchers. i usedta think i was better than them. my crime is better than your crime. i was a piece of shit too, just a slightly more socially acceptable version although who is society to accept?
i like what you're doing at whigger park in detroit, i was just on some glass houses/tossing rocks shit.

Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: stabbedbywiggers on December 14, 2016, 09:41:35 AM
They make shoes too
(http://images.wogibtswas.at/data/image/500x705/566/pro-pedo-tieffussbettpantoffel-2826869.jpg)
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Watson on December 14, 2016, 10:18:23 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/vNCwWIC.png)
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on December 15, 2016, 10:34:19 AM
This:

(http://i.imgur.com/Zbbh8UM.png)

Made me make this:

(http://i.imgur.com/zb6PBIh.jpg)

hahaha, i wish i did that and everyone wanted 7.625's
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on December 15, 2016, 10:49:59 AM
zero boards with better wood now?  sounds good, good luck man

I feel we are all forgetting Zero was one of the first companies to leave America and start producing in Mexico. Zero has produced sub-par boards for over a decade (not just since 2014 when Thomas moved Zero over to Dwindle). While Powell was the first skate company to really try to start producing outside of the States (1980s - China), Thomas and Mangum--along with the guys at Dwindle--help set the trend of non-American/Canadian made boards when it came to "new-school" skateboarding. (Note: According to Transworld Business, in 2004, the guys working at Thomas's factory in Mexico were making 45-55 dollars a week.)

My impression is that Thomas has sought out lower cost rather than quality for quite some time now and that along with skateboarding's continued decline in popularity, and the coming of new trends make it difficult for Zero to be the same company it was in 2002. We could also argue about brand image, marketing strategy, and various rumors but that would take us no where.

However, the key issue isn't just Thomas's pursuit of lower-costs (nor is he alone in this business model), we also need to look at our desire for cheap consumer goods, and the shop's need to produce some profit to stay in business. It is amazing how little those of us in the US are willing to pay for a our skate goods. Moreover, it is good to remember that the board wars of 2001-2006 weren't just blanks vs pro boards, it was shop boards vs blanks vs pro boards. What is more important supporting the local shop or supporting the pro company? If we didn't expect pro-boards with grip to cost $45 maybe we could do both at the same time.

http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/products/offshore-manufacturing-alternative-black-box-has-found-a-way-to-lower-costs-without-going/ (http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/products/offshore-manufacturing-alternative-black-box-has-found-a-way-to-lower-costs-without-going/)

http://skateboarding.transworld.net/news/offshore-manufacturing-alternative-black-box-has-found-a-way-to-lower-costs-without-going/ (http://skateboarding.transworld.net/news/offshore-manufacturing-alternative-black-box-has-found-a-way-to-lower-costs-without-going/)

deluxe had been at Bareback in mexico for years before we moved to our production down there and everyones swears by deluxe. we have never compromised quality for price, so you're spouting some bullshit. personally, i think the dwindle wood is the best wood i've ever ridden. otherwise, we are what we are and if you don't like it, cool
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on December 15, 2016, 11:02:14 AM

Whats Lyndsey Robinson upto these days?

Also, have you seen the Ryan Smith thread? Is he okay these days?

Chief, would you be down for an official SLAP pals Q&A?

last i heard lindsey works at a flower shop in carlsbad/san marcos and grows weed
smith lives in canada and suffers from alcoholism and pds from his wreck / he lives with his folks and works on motorcycles. we talk from time to time
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: coneklr on December 15, 2016, 11:05:06 AM
Have you thought about throwing your name into my secret santa post in the classifieds?  Right now it's about a 1 in 20 chance of getting something  ;) :D

Also do you know if Roark will be doing any sales soon?  I can't find your jacket anywhere but the site currently  :-\
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on December 15, 2016, 12:12:41 PM

Whats Lyndsey Robinson upto these days?

Also, have you seen the Ryan Smith thread? Is he okay these days?

Chief, would you be down for an official SLAP pals Q&A?

last i heard lindsey works at a flower shop in carlsbad/san marcos and grows weed
smith lives in canada and suffers from alcoholism and pds from his wreck / he lives with his folks and works on motorcycles. we talk from time to time

i feel like i do the slap pals q&a every few months, but yeah i'm down for an official interview if you guys want
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Slappydarkslide on December 15, 2016, 12:27:58 PM
Just want to say thank you, Jamie.  You honestly seem like a stand-up guy.  I admire all your hard work, dedication, and everything you've offered to the skate world.  You're a legend.  Just wanted to say thanks....
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Righteous Victim on December 15, 2016, 12:30:11 PM
lindsey works at a flower shop
(https://s30.postimg.org/f5k1ldctt/LRC.jpg)
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on December 15, 2016, 05:59:50 PM
Congrats on going solo.

Now if you can reissue the skeleton graphic from 2001, I would be psyched. I think I skated 6 of those in a row. I cleared out the online places I could find at the time. (those were 7.75 at that time right?)

Even more, if you could put that graphic on a 1992 football shaped deck, I'd ride those until death. I love those shapes and that's one of my fave graphics ever (also a Misfits fan)

Also skated a bunch of the 3 skulls w/blood decks. Oh, and (wish I still had this) I had this old Toy Machine monster hoodie that had "Zero" (bold logo) screened on the upper back (Tum Yeto tag). Always thought that was awesome. Dunno why/how/when I got rid of that, sucks.

Anyway, thanks for all the great stuff over the years

thanks good! we've had that egg shape board in at least one graphic per season for the last few
we'll get it on the site asap, so that way at least you can find it.
not sure what to say about the tum yeto hoody

Where Rattray @?

One of my favorites. Is he a Nike TM or something now?  :-\  Would love to see another part from him
yes and he's still ripping on his terms, but i don't think he has any plans for more parts.

Just want to say thank you, Jamie.  You honestly seem like a stand-up guy.  I admire all your hard work, dedication, and everything you've offered to the skate world.  You're a legend.  Just wanted to say thanks....

gracias mi amigo
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on December 15, 2016, 06:01:52 PM
Chief, I'm not going to make a new thread asking for anything, but here's your opportunity to (maybe) sell me something. Since this thread became somewhat of an AMA and all. I saw an old Rattray deck for sale, one with a big blue gorilla looking all shook. The price is kinda OK, it's a bit too narrow for my 149 trucks, but I'd like to think that, somehow, I'm buying something from one of the all-time greats and a fellow PAL, so I'm torn. Should I bite the bullet and buy it? Best regards.

i think you should get it based on the fact that rattray is the best!!
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: I SUCK! on December 15, 2016, 06:02:12 PM
Chief, I'm not going to make a new thread asking for anything, but here's your opportunity to (maybe) sell me something. Since this thread became somewhat of an AMA and all. I saw an old Rattray deck for sale, one with a big blue gorilla looking all shook. The price is kinda OK, it's a bit too narrow for my 149 trucks, but I'd like to think that, somehow, I'm buying something from one of the all-time greats and a fellow PAL, so I'm torn. Should I bite the bullet and buy it? Best regards.

i think you should get it based on the fact that rattray is the best!!
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: runa on December 15, 2016, 08:33:12 PM
I don't have a question, but I just want to share how happy I am that I found my favourite shirt from when I was younger: http://imgur.com/a/kuyzc (http://imgur.com/a/kuyzc)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZEJ9DpK.jpg)

Also, I never throw things away nowadays because I am afraid of having the feeling I have about your Circa 801 model. I trashed them over the years and my mom threw them away when I was 17 without telling me anything. It still is my favourite skate shoe ever and I can't get them again  despite having over 200 pairs of sneakers. If anybody has a pair of these, send me a PM.

Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Lurper on December 15, 2016, 08:40:43 PM
zero boards with better wood now? �sounds good, good luck man

I feel we are all forgetting Zero was one of the first companies to leave America and start producing in Mexico. Zero has produced sub-par boards for over a decade (not just since 2014 when Thomas moved Zero over to Dwindle). While Powell was the first skate company to really try to start producing outside of the States (1980s - China), Thomas and Mangum--along with the guys at Dwindle--help set the trend of non-American/Canadian made boards when it came to "new-school" skateboarding. (Note: According to Transworld Business, in 2004, the guys working at Thomas's factory in Mexico were making 45-55 dollars a week.)

My impression is that Thomas has sought out lower cost rather than quality for quite some time now and that along with skateboarding's continued decline in popularity, and the coming of new trends make it difficult for Zero to be the same company it was in 2002. We could also argue about brand image, marketing strategy, and various rumors but that would take us no where.

However, the key issue isn't just Thomas's pursuit of lower-costs (nor is he alone in this business model), we also need to look at our desire for cheap consumer goods, and the shop's need to produce some profit to stay in business. It is amazing how little those of us in the US are willing to pay for a our skate goods. Moreover, it is good to remember that the board wars of 2001-2006 weren't just blanks vs pro boards, it was shop boards vs blanks vs pro boards. What is more important supporting the local shop or supporting the pro company? If we didn't expect pro-boards with grip to cost $45 maybe we could do both at the same time.

http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/products/offshore-manufacturing-alternative-black-box-has-found-a-way-to-lower-costs-without-going/ (http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/products/offshore-manufacturing-alternative-black-box-has-found-a-way-to-lower-costs-without-going/)

http://skateboarding.transworld.net/news/offshore-manufacturing-alternative-black-box-has-found-a-way-to-lower-costs-without-going/ (http://skateboarding.transworld.net/news/offshore-manufacturing-alternative-black-box-has-found-a-way-to-lower-costs-without-going/)

deluxe had been at Bareback in mexico for years before we moved to our production down there and everyones swears by deluxe. we have never compromised quality for price, so you're spouting some bullshit. personally, i think the dwindle wood is the best wood i've ever ridden. otherwise, we are what we are and if you don't like it, cool

I had the same conversation with Mirko when he was still with Zoo York. He defended Zero's made in Mexico boards as well and if you think Dwindle wood is the best, cool, I strongly disagree but we don't need to agree. I can only tell you the same thing that I told Mirko, the riders and employees of the shop I was at noticed the change and they weren't stoked. This wasn't good, because for our shop the best sales pitch was always "this is the board that I ride" or "this is the board our team rides."

As for BBS being there "years before we moved." I'm unsure what you mean. In a semi-recent interview with CNN, Grant Burns of BBS explains he moved the production line in 2004 as well. "In 2004 Burns moved his production line from San Marcos, Calif., across the border to Tijuana, Mexico, to better compete with China" (source: http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/03/smallbusiness/us_manufacturing/ (http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/03/smallbusiness/us_manufacturing/) ). Moreover, in 2003 Grant Burns is quoted in Transworld discussing issues related to running BBS manufacturing in California. "Grant Burns is the president of Vista, California-based Bareback skateboard manufacturing that cuts an estimated 30,000 boards a month. This leaves fouur three-yard bins of wood waste a day. �Quite a bit of wood,� says Burns. �It�s kind of unfortunate-it doesn�t work for this area (Vista, California) because there are certain guys who don�t want to take the wood because of the glue. They make it real tough in California. Even if we were freezing cold-anything that�s a potential fire risk makes it hard to get permitted. Our pressroom is heated, and we need to have a heat pump that runs it. I would love to go with a pot-belly stove or a heater that runs off of our waste, but it could never get permitted because to get it through the city it would be considered a fire hazard (source: http://skateboarding.transworld.net/news/wood-recycling/#gDMFrGjRm1IyXDWq.99 (http://skateboarding.transworld.net/news/wood-recycling/#gDMFrGjRm1IyXDWq.99) ).

While, you have a point that Zero wasn't the only one switching to Mexico as this trend of leaving the US started picking up steam, it certainly doesn't seem that BBS moved their production "years before" Blackbox did. Not to mention, it appears that Burns kept production in both the US and Mexico at least until 2010 as he installed a screen press at the Vista location in 2010 (source http://whattheythink.com/news/42472-sakurai-maestro-prints-heat-transfers-skateboards-bbs/ (http://whattheythink.com/news/42472-sakurai-maestro-prints-heat-transfers-skateboards-bbs/)).

Skateboarding isn't what it was in the early 2000's. It isn't nearly as big and the big skate companies of the time aren't enjoying the same amount of interest today. I feel that quality is certainly one factor that often gets ignored. Mirko didn't like this when I told him years ago as the crash began and that is fine by me. The guys at Dwindle didn't want to hear it either, and that's fine as well. However, I never expected our customers to pay for something that I wouldn't ride myself.
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: ThrillOfItAll on December 16, 2016, 12:55:36 AM
Hey Jamie, what wood were Zero Boards in 99-2002 ish? They were solid!

I personally don't care where a board is made as its the end product we should all care about.


What i like about Dwindle wood is the consistency they output (the DSM production video backs this up too)

Always stiff, true boards that don't go soggy after a few sessions.

I hope I'm right in saying they are heat transferred rather than screen printed?
Some people hate on that, i get the argument from both sides.


Love that Lyndsey is growing weed lol

Sad to hear about Ryan smith, i met him at a demo one, nice guy!
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: christ0v on December 16, 2016, 01:17:41 AM
zero boards with better wood now? �sounds good, good luck man

I feel we are all forgetting Zero was one of the first companies to leave America and start producing in Mexico. Zero has produced sub-par boards for over a decade (not just since 2014 when Thomas moved Zero over to Dwindle). While Powell was the first skate company to really try to start producing outside of the States (1980s - China), Thomas and Mangum--along with the guys at Dwindle--help set the trend of non-American/Canadian made boards when it came to "new-school" skateboarding. (Note: According to Transworld Business, in 2004, the guys working at Thomas's factory in Mexico were making 45-55 dollars a week.)

My impression is that Thomas has sought out lower cost rather than quality for quite some time now and that along with skateboarding's continued decline in popularity, and the coming of new trends make it difficult for Zero to be the same company it was in 2002. We could also argue about brand image, marketing strategy, and various rumors but that would take us no where.

However, the key issue isn't just Thomas's pursuit of lower-costs (nor is he alone in this business model), we also need to look at our desire for cheap consumer goods, and the shop's need to produce some profit to stay in business. It is amazing how little those of us in the US are willing to pay for a our skate goods. Moreover, it is good to remember that the board wars of 2001-2006 weren't just blanks vs pro boards, it was shop boards vs blanks vs pro boards. What is more important supporting the local shop or supporting the pro company? If we didn't expect pro-boards with grip to cost $45 maybe we could do both at the same time.

http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/products/offshore-manufacturing-alternative-black-box-has-found-a-way-to-lower-costs-without-going/ (http://www.grindtv.com/transworld-business/products/offshore-manufacturing-alternative-black-box-has-found-a-way-to-lower-costs-without-going/)

http://skateboarding.transworld.net/news/offshore-manufacturing-alternative-black-box-has-found-a-way-to-lower-costs-without-going/ (http://skateboarding.transworld.net/news/offshore-manufacturing-alternative-black-box-has-found-a-way-to-lower-costs-without-going/)

deluxe had been at Bareback in mexico for years before we moved to our production down there and everyones swears by deluxe. we have never compromised quality for price, so you're spouting some bullshit. personally, i think the dwindle wood is the best wood i've ever ridden. otherwise, we are what we are and if you don't like it, cool

I had the same conversation with Mirko when he was still with Zoo York. He defended Zero's made in Mexico boards as well and if you think Dwindle wood is the best, cool, I strongly disagree but we don't need to agree. I can only tell you the same thing that I told Mirko, the riders and employees of the shop I was at noticed the change and they weren't stoked. This wasn't good, because for our shop the best sales pitch was always "this is the board that I ride" or "this is the board our team rides."

As for BBS being there "years before we moved." I'm unsure what you mean. In a semi-recent interview with CNN, Grant Burns of BBS explains he moved the production line in 2004 as well. "In 2004 Burns moved his production line from San Marcos, Calif., across the border to Tijuana, Mexico, to better compete with China" (source: http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/03/smallbusiness/us_manufacturing/ (http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/03/smallbusiness/us_manufacturing/) ). Moreover, in 2003 Grant Burns is quoted in Transworld discussing issues related to running BBS manufacturing in California. "Grant Burns is the president of Vista, California-based Bareback skateboard manufacturing that cuts an estimated 30,000 boards a month. This leaves fouur three-yard bins of wood waste a day. �Quite a bit of wood,� says Burns. �It�s kind of unfortunate-it doesn�t work for this area (Vista, California) because there are certain guys who don�t want to take the wood because of the glue. They make it real tough in California. Even if we were freezing cold-anything that�s a potential fire risk makes it hard to get permitted. Our pressroom is heated, and we need to have a heat pump that runs it. I would love to go with a pot-belly stove or a heater that runs off of our waste, but it could never get permitted because to get it through the city it would be considered a fire hazard (source: http://skateboarding.transworld.net/news/wood-recycling/#gDMFrGjRm1IyXDWq.99 (http://skateboarding.transworld.net/news/wood-recycling/#gDMFrGjRm1IyXDWq.99) ).

While, you have a point that Zero wasn't the only one switching to Mexico as this trend of leaving the US started picking up steam, it certainly doesn't seem that BBS moved their production "years before" Blackbox did. Not to mention, it appears that Burns kept production in both the US and Mexico at least until 2010 as he installed a screen press at the Vista location in 2010 (source http://whattheythink.com/news/42472-sakurai-maestro-prints-heat-transfers-skateboards-bbs/ (http://whattheythink.com/news/42472-sakurai-maestro-prints-heat-transfers-skateboards-bbs/)).

Skateboarding isn't what it was in the early 2000's. It isn't nearly as big and the big skate companies of the time aren't enjoying the same amount of interest today. I feel that quality is certainly one factor that often gets ignored. Mirko didn't like this when I told him years ago as the crash began and that is fine by me. The guys at Dwindle didn't want to hear it either, and that's fine as well. However, I never expected our customers to pay for something that I wouldn't ride myself.

are you unemployed  ?
Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Mongoloid on December 16, 2016, 05:36:08 AM
Hey Jamie, how would you rate Larper's  latest novel on a scale from 1 to nerd?


Title: Re: Zero goes solo
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on December 16, 2016, 09:48:57 AM
still waiting on that Wade Burkitt story yo... :'(