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Title: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: 144p on January 05, 2017, 06:39:23 PM
Just got a sneak peak of Agenda releases and looks like Indy is finally doing A 144(8.25) truck.
Seems like A small niche between 139 and 149 but I guess enough people demanded it.
 
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Tracer on January 05, 2017, 06:45:20 PM
134 would have been a better idea
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: ChuckRamone on January 05, 2017, 06:55:21 PM
oh hell yeah
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: stets on January 05, 2017, 07:36:48 PM
Oh man, that's great news. I was skating a pair of stage 8 146's (at least I think that's what they sized them as back then) and they were 8.25. Added a stage 11 forged plate to it and an inverted kingpin... best Indy's I've had. So many boards are 8.25 these days, it totally makes sense.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: CINCINNATI on January 05, 2017, 07:37:17 PM
i just want 215 shape 169s like the ones danny dicola skates
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: N.L. on January 05, 2017, 07:44:35 PM
very cool but about ten years too late for me. as my beer guy expanded so did my comfort with 149s and 159s.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Paco Supreme on January 05, 2017, 07:48:45 PM
i just want 215 shape 169s like the ones danny dicola skates

Then cut them down like he does.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: GOATMOON on January 05, 2017, 07:51:51 PM
This is good, I don't want to skate indy's but I'm hoping this gets thunder and some other companies to start making 8.25's too.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: N.L. on January 05, 2017, 09:43:34 PM
i just want 215 shape 169s like the ones danny dicola skates

Stage IIIs! 8 5/8" axle / 151 Hanger. That would be my truck, especially if they could tuck the kingpin away a bit.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: pointandclick on January 05, 2017, 10:33:14 PM
Just got a sneak peak of Agenda releases and looks like Indy is finally doing A 144(8.25) truck.
Seems like A small niche between 139 and 149 but I guess enough people demanded it.
 
i feel like there is actually alot of people who would skate an 8.25 indy, instead of having to do krux or ace.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: j....soy..... on January 05, 2017, 11:13:23 PM
Isn't that the size of the most popular deck size?  Makes sense no? 
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Paco Supreme on January 05, 2017, 11:40:40 PM
Yes it's one of the most used sizes in current times, but i think people who skate 8.25 and wanna ride indys have found their middle ground in either a 139 or 149. The 144 might just be to satiate those who nerd out over mm truck sizings, (see the truck thread). I'd be interested to see the design on a board before biting the bullet on something that may just sound good in theory.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Randozzi on January 06, 2017, 12:23:54 AM
149's on an 8.25 are pretty perfect.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: BMCsteve on January 06, 2017, 06:58:41 AM
The OCD in me is very excited about this
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: jamersonbass on January 06, 2017, 07:03:52 AM
This is great news. I was perfectly happy with 149's on an 8.25 but wanted to see if my board flipped better with a smaller size.  I tried some 44's last summer (I know, they're technically 8 3/8's) and while they were pretty solid, I may have to throw them on a cruiser. This is some Goldilocks shit.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: max power on January 06, 2017, 07:18:26 AM
I'll get some 144's  as soon as they are available. This might be the best thing to come out of Agenda this year.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: N.L. on January 06, 2017, 09:28:21 AM
i did hear a rumor that indy were also looking at making a standard truck that was in between a low and the current 11s.

could the 144s have new geometry also?

time to start losing sleep over this, truck nerds.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on January 06, 2017, 09:56:20 AM
149's on an 8.25 are pretty perfect.
I agree but think of 144s on an 8 or 8.125. Probably a dream.

Maybe Reynolds will finally step up to 144s on his 8.5 instead of th 139s he's been riding for y ars lol.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: VCR on January 06, 2017, 10:11:05 AM
I just want a thunder 8.25" truck.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: h00man on January 06, 2017, 10:39:16 AM
Good news! Now I can ride 8.25's without freaking out over my 139 trucks
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: sharkin on January 06, 2017, 11:35:31 AM
This is legit

I liked 149s on 8.25 over 139s but it still felt off.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Tracer on January 06, 2017, 11:37:41 AM
I just want a thunder 8.25" truck.
They will DEF. be making one in the future I stake my entire reputation on it.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Pigeon on January 06, 2017, 12:32:58 PM
I just want a thunder 8.25" truck.
They will DEF. be making one in the future I stake my entire reputation on it.
That doesn't mean anything.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: iwshilvdnfinland on January 06, 2017, 12:41:31 PM
149's on an 8.25 are pretty perfect.

i agree


but i'll be damned if i'm not curious.  took em long enough... nice to see all that Pacsun money go to good use.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Pigeon on January 06, 2017, 12:55:52 PM
149's on an 8.25 are pretty perfect.

i agree


but i'll be damned if i'm not curious.  took em long enough... nice to see all that Pacsun money go to good use.
I didn't know what you were talking about until I checked out their website. They even have a bunch of Huf collabs, so what the fuck does, "select Huf retailers," even mean anymore?

Back on topic...I want to try a pair, but I've gotten so used to 149ers. Can someone possibly post pictures, so we can check out the shape of them?
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: j....soy..... on January 06, 2017, 10:49:59 PM
This truck makes complete sense in that you can run an 8.25-8.5 super proper......I never liked the look of a 149 on an 8.25.....but....if everyone is already riding 149......no one ever down sizes trucks.....they just don't.....
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: rob on January 07, 2017, 12:00:08 AM
i did hear a rumor that indy were also looking at making a standard truck that was in between a low and the current 11s.

could the 144s have new geometry also?

time to start losing sleep over this, truck nerds.

you got me psyched, im very intrigued. i had a set of stage 10 standards i did like for a good moment, maybe theyll just redo the 10 with a better geometry. ill definitely get a set just to try.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: christ0v on January 07, 2017, 01:34:03 AM
we know that you will, rob, we know haha
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: rob on January 07, 2017, 01:59:14 AM
hehe ( ͡? ͜ʖ ͡?)
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Live Fast Johnny on January 07, 2017, 04:36:10 AM
Been a minute since I've been on the SLAP board but if I carried one thing from my time on here it was how good 149's feel on an 8.25.  Not sure I could ever go back.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: MonistatOne on January 07, 2017, 06:48:01 AM
(http://i.giphy.com/5KUOsm8H3O46Y.gif)
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: calvinsdream on January 07, 2017, 06:57:11 AM
I think it would be sweet having the 144's on an 8.5. Get just a bit more leverage with just a tiny bit less overhang.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: franquietits on January 07, 2017, 07:47:57 AM
Oh man, that's great news. I was skating a pair of stage 8 146's (at least I think that's what they sized them as back then) and they were 8.25. Added a stage 11 forged plate to it and an inverted kingpin... best Indy's I've had. So many boards are 8.25 these days, it totally makes sense.

Holy Shnit, this actually works? No geometry probs? I have some 8's and could try that myself.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: stets on January 07, 2017, 06:39:51 PM
Oh man, that's great news. I was skating a pair of stage 8 146's (at least I think that's what they sized them as back then) and they were 8.25. Added a stage 11 forged plate to it and an inverted kingpin... best Indy's I've had. So many boards are 8.25 these days, it totally makes sense.

Holy Shnit, this actually works? No geometry probs? I have some 8's and could try that myself.

Geometry was fine. Skated them for a year and a half after the conversion, till they hit axle for the whole rear truck! I drilled and tapped the forged baseplate and installed a threaded insert so I could use the Grindking kingpin. I'll post a photo of that process sometime soon.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: planman on January 07, 2017, 08:52:36 PM
Does this mean Chico Brenes will finally stop riding 139s on 8.75s?
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: The_9 on January 08, 2017, 01:29:38 AM
I think this is a good thing for sure - gives people way more options in board size when they want to change things up without having to change trucks. You could easily skate from an 8 to 8.375 with these.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: BMCsteve on January 08, 2017, 08:27:24 AM
Does this mean Chico Brenes will finally stop riding 139s on 8.75s?

he rides 149's.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: planman on January 08, 2017, 10:33:40 AM
Does this mean Chico Brenes will finally stop riding 139s on 8.75s?

he rides 149's.
Then I guess it's a typo on the Central website?

http://www.centralskateco.com/comrades/ (http://www.centralskateco.com/comrades/)
Board Set up: 8.75″ Big Boy Deck, Indy 139 front loose back a bit Tighter,
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Zimmer on January 08, 2017, 11:31:40 AM
This sounds like great news, I just started really like Ace 44's on an 8.0, they knew there's a sweet spot.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Deekay on January 08, 2017, 03:43:35 PM
This is great! I'm still riding 139's on 8.25 because the 149's are too clunky for me.. 144's will be perfect.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: the snake on January 08, 2017, 08:10:41 PM
too late for me, i'm on 149's since a few months, and they're perfect on 8.25's
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: ChuckRamone on January 08, 2017, 08:15:37 PM
anyone know about when they will be available?
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: BMCsteve on January 08, 2017, 08:28:46 PM
Does this mean Chico Brenes will finally stop riding 139s on 8.75s?

he rides 149's.
Then I guess it's a typo on the Central website?

http://www.centralskateco.com/comrades/ (http://www.centralskateco.com/comrades/)
Board Set up: 8.75″ Big Boy Deck, Indy 139 front loose back a bit Tighter,

Probably a typo.  kids are always asking him what size trucks on Insta and he always says 149

Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: weaselhead on January 08, 2017, 09:53:06 PM
this makes me so happy
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Esmith5488 on January 09, 2017, 10:36:56 AM
149's on an 8.25 are pretty perfect.

this, plus i can move around sizes a bit, right now i have a 8.4 and i still am fine with my 149s
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Xen on January 09, 2017, 01:27:39 PM
Sweet! I guess the Krux sales were good enough.

I always found it funny that the '3rd world' trucks, e.g., Silver, Destructo, Royal, Fury, etc., have all offered an 8.25" axle for sometime yet Indy and Thunder didn't bother. ACE and Theeve might have picked up some of that slack tho.

Riding some 5.5" Theeve atm. doubtful the 144 will get me to switch off tho....I'll wait for the Thunder 148 ti ;)
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: N.L. on January 09, 2017, 06:35:35 PM
I'm guessing these 144s will sit a bit lower than the current standard 149s also.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: 144p on January 09, 2017, 07:39:06 PM
Doubtful, the 139 and 149 are the same height.
159's are 1.5 mm taller if my memory serves me correctly.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on January 09, 2017, 07:41:19 PM
They're all the same height. 109-215.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: N.L. on January 09, 2017, 08:24:24 PM
Wait and See. Rhino talks about it in his Juice Mag interview,

"Keith was talking about doing some sort of mid truck in between the Stage 11 and the Low. Maybe a couple of street dudes want a different geometry going on." Juice Mag #74 Page 36.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: N.L. on January 09, 2017, 08:31:25 PM
(http://i67.tinypic.com/29vj4hk.jpg)

in case you nerds think i'm full of shit...
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: N.L. on January 09, 2017, 08:33:12 PM
Doubtful, the 139 and 149 are the same height.
159's are 1.5 mm taller if my memory serves me correctly.

149s and 159 standards are both 55mm high, I think...
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Xen on January 09, 2017, 09:38:43 PM
The forged are already between the low and standards, tho.

Here's a chance for Indy to trim that hanger yoke down and make a 'snappier' truck.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: N.L. on January 10, 2017, 05:13:10 PM
The forged are already between the low and standards, tho.

Here's a chance for Indy to trim that hanger yoke down and make a 'snappier' truck.

true but it might have something to do with where the height is added affecting the geo. a slimmer or thicker baseplate is going to change things in a different way to hanger position/ design.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: rob on January 11, 2017, 11:34:07 PM
The forged are already between the low and standards, tho.

Here's a chance for Indy to trim that hanger yoke down and make a 'snappier' truck.

man, im really looking forward to that! if indys have that quick turn like thunder but still deep indy carve theyll be amazing. ever since getting back to the lows ive been stoked and remembered how nice and solid of a truck indys are, theyre just a good solid truck. the weight is just a hair much but i like the ratio of weight and build.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: clamy on January 11, 2017, 11:39:39 PM
This is what I wanted from Independent a year ago. I swore never go back to Indies after moving on to Ace, but now they have me intrigued (especially if the height is lower).
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: christ0v on January 11, 2017, 11:42:33 PM
Do we have any release date yet ?
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: rob on January 16, 2017, 12:43:28 AM
bump

any updates on anything at all anyone??
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on January 16, 2017, 12:53:02 AM
Any chance for an Inverted kingppin at some point?
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: rob on January 16, 2017, 01:22:50 AM
I really hope they revamp the Indy 139 too and make them lower(like thunder 149 height 52.5mm tall) and make them lighter with better rebound stock bushings, that would be an amazing truck.

I know that's why thunders are good, good height, good rebound/response/stability and light weight.

Hopefully someone from that research team reads this
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Krooked antihero on January 16, 2017, 01:47:37 AM
I really hope they revamp the Indy 139 too and make them lower(like thunder 149 height 52.5mm tall) and make them lighter with better rebound stock bushings, that would be an amazing truck.

I know that's why thunders are good, good height, good rebound/response/stability and light weight.

Hopefully someone from that research team reads this

I hope they don't do that, you can always ride indy lows if you want that low truck feel. I like my indys tall, which means that they will turn unlike thunders.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: rob on January 16, 2017, 02:16:13 AM
I really hope they revamp the Indy 139 too and make them lower(like thunder 149 height 52.5mm tall) and make them lighter with better rebound stock bushings, that would be an amazing truck.

I know that's why thunders are good, good height, good rebound/response/stability and light weight.

Hopefully someone from that research team reads this

I hope they don't do that, you can always ride indy lows if you want that low truck feel. I like my indys tall, which means that they will turn unlike thunders.

Thunder 149ers turn, I actually went back to thunder 147 cause the indy's were too heavy and such. They were solid but thunders are solid too.

I love my Indy lows but thunder 147 hi just take the cake for me cause I noticed the tiny bit of extra height over Indy lows helped me balance my manuals better and get more stable pop going fast to Ollie over stuff, also they're lighter which really hit me when I set them up after the indy's.

Maybe they'll have Indy mids, and they'll be in shops along with Indy standard high and lows, so now you got every option on the Indy program.
That would be cool, an actual mid truck.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Xen on January 16, 2017, 08:27:23 AM
I really hope they revamp the Indy 139 too and make them lower(like thunder 149 height 52.5mm tall) and make them lighter with better rebound stock bushings, that would be an amazing truck.

I know that's why thunders are good, good height, good rebound/response/stability and light weight.

Hopefully someone from that research team reads this

I hope they don't do that, you can always ride indy lows if you want that low truck feel. I like my indys tall, which means that they will turn unlike thunders.

Thunder 149ers turn, I actually went back to thunder 147 cause the indy's were too heavy and such. They were solid but thunders are solid too.

I love my Indy lows but thunder 147 hi just take the cake for me cause I noticed the tiny bit of extra height over Indy lows helped me balance my manuals better and get more stable pop going fast to Ollie over stuff, also they're lighter which really hit me when I set them up after the indy's.

Maybe they'll have Indy mids, and they'll be in shops along with Indy standard high and lows, so now you got every option on the Indy program.
That would be cool, an actual mid truck.

You could try Thunders with team plates, makes them a true mid.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: rob on January 16, 2017, 03:40:33 PM
I really hope they revamp the Indy 139 too and make them lower(like thunder 149 height 52.5mm tall) and make them lighter with better rebound stock bushings, that would be an amazing truck.

I know that's why thunders are good, good height, good rebound/response/stability and light weight.

Hopefully someone from that research team reads this


I hope they don't do that, you can always ride indy lows if you want that low truck feel. I like my indys tall, which means that they will turn unlike thunders.

Thunder 149ers turn, I actually went back to thunder 147 cause the indy's were too heavy and such. They were solid but thunders are solid too.

I love my Indy lows but thunder 147 hi just take the cake for me cause I noticed the tiny bit of extra height over Indy lows helped me balance my manuals better and get more stable pop going fast to Ollie over stuff, also they're lighter which really hit me when I set them up after the indy's.

Maybe they'll have Indy mids, and they'll be in shops along with Indy standard high and lows, so now you got every option on the Indy program.
That would be cool, an actual mid truck.

You could try Thunders with team plates, makes them a true mid.

That's the only way I ride my thunder 147 hi, standard cast team style. No forged here cause the thin light baseplate throws off my board weight Distribution
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: mattchew on January 17, 2017, 07:37:42 AM
Stoked to try these out.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Xen on January 17, 2017, 10:58:26 AM
I really hope they revamp the Indy 139 too and make them lower(like thunder 149 height 52.5mm tall) and make them lighter with better rebound stock bushings, that would be an amazing truck.

I know that's why thunders are good, good height, good rebound/response/stability and light weight.

Hopefully someone from that research team reads this


I hope they don't do that, you can always ride indy lows if you want that low truck feel. I like my indys tall, which means that they will turn unlike thunders.

Thunder 149ers turn, I actually went back to thunder 147 cause the indy's were too heavy and such. They were solid but thunders are solid too.

I love my Indy lows but thunder 147 hi just take the cake for me cause I noticed the tiny bit of extra height over Indy lows helped me balance my manuals better and get more stable pop going fast to Ollie over stuff, also they're lighter which really hit me when I set them up after the indy's.

Maybe they'll have Indy mids, and they'll be in shops along with Indy standard high and lows, so now you got every option on the Indy program.
That would be cool, an actual mid truck.

You could try Thunders with team plates, makes them a true mid.

That's the only way I ride my thunder 147 hi, standard cast team style. No forged here cause the thin light baseplate throws off my board weight Distribution

I just don't like the way they make the board sound/feel, tinny sort of? Indy forged feel better than thunder forged, dunno what it is - probably weight which is noticeable but I threw on some ti hangers and krux pins on team plates so it's moot; I just can't get them dialed.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: rob on January 17, 2017, 11:29:12 AM
I really hope they revamp the Indy 139 too and make them lower(like thunder 149 height 52.5mm tall) and make them lighter with better rebound stock bushings, that would be an amazing truck.

I know that's why thunders are good, good height, good rebound/response/stability and light weight.

Hopefully someone from that research team reads this


I hope they don't do that, you can always ride indy lows if you want that low truck feel. I like my indys tall, which means that they will turn unlike thunders.

Thunder 149ers turn, I actually went back to thunder 147 cause the indy's were too heavy and such. They were solid but thunders are solid too.

I love my Indy lows but thunder 147 hi just take the cake for me cause I noticed the tiny bit of extra height over Indy lows helped me balance my manuals better and get more stable pop going fast to Ollie over stuff, also they're lighter which really hit me when I set them up after the indy's.

Maybe they'll have Indy mids, and they'll be in shops along with Indy standard high and lows, so now you got every option on the Indy program.
That would be cool, an actual mid truck.

You could try Thunders with team plates, makes them a true mid.

That's the only way I ride my thunder 147 hi, standard cast team style. No forged here cause the thin light baseplate throws off my board weight Distribution

I just don't like the way they make the board sound/feel, tinny sort of? Indy forged feel better than thunder forged, dunno what it is - probably weight which is noticeable but I threw on some ti hangers and krux pins on team plates so it's moot; I just can't get them dialed.

Yeah I don't get how some of the guys on the team ride the forged especially the renown king of consistency Shane oneill. The forged weight gives no board feel.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: BMCsteve on January 17, 2017, 02:00:02 PM
Hold 2 nickels in your hand.  that's the difference between a forged baseplate and a cast baseplate
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: rob on January 17, 2017, 02:04:23 PM
Nickels are pretty thick though, if you said pennies or dimes I'd be perplexed but you gotta also consider, we are slap skaters. A dime of weight alone is enough to get to us

But really though idk what it is but the casting method gives the truck this solid weight feel compared to the feather light forged pressed method
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Zimmer on January 17, 2017, 03:41:59 PM
On slap:

1 mm = 1 cm

1 gram = 1 pound
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Krooked antihero on January 18, 2017, 12:05:30 AM
On slap:

1 mm = 1 cm

1 gram = 1 pound

Hahaha,exactly what i've been thinking lately when browsing these truck topics :)
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: SodaJerk on January 18, 2017, 05:39:37 AM
I wanna try them. Won't make any difference but I'll still try them.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: VCR on January 18, 2017, 08:08:48 AM
Quote from: Krooked antihero  link=topic=93917.msg2598103#msg2598103 date=1484726730
On slap:

1 mm = 1 cm

1 gram = 1 pound

Hahaha,exactly what i've been thinking lately when browsing these truck topics :)

Don't forget about adding a Krux kingpin to everything too
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Xen on January 18, 2017, 09:36:04 AM
Quote from: Krooked antihero  link=topic=93917.msg2598103#msg2598103 date=1484726730
On slap:

1 mm = 1 cm

1 gram = 1 pound

Hahaha,exactly what i've been thinking lately when browsing these truck topics :)



Don't forget about adding a Krux kingpin to everything too

Only if they come without hollow pins ;)

Regardless of weight they are so low profile giving you ton more feeb/smith clearance if that's your thing.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: FULTON on January 20, 2017, 01:59:05 PM
I'm excited for the 1444, at least to try them. I bought thunders and honestly they didn't feel much lighter than my hollow indys. And I hate how thunder doesn't openly publish the weights like Indy.
The thunder felt flimsy and I stuck with old reliable, for me anyhow.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: FULTON on January 20, 2017, 05:06:15 PM
BTW I emailed tactics and these will come out in June
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Xen on January 20, 2017, 05:18:01 PM
BTW I emailed tactics and these will come out in June


Damn, June? ;P
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: rob on January 20, 2017, 11:58:27 PM
woah! so wait is it just gonna be an 8.25 stage 11? or a new 8.25 stage 11.5 mid indy
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: ChuckRamone on February 14, 2017, 07:51:19 PM
are they available now?

https://instagram.com/p/BQhIMlcAykw/
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Xen on February 14, 2017, 09:46:24 PM
are they available now?

https://instagram.com/p/BQhIMlcAykw/

Not seen them anywhere, it's a print ad so they are starting the marketing machine.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Krooked antihero on February 14, 2017, 11:14:10 PM
Can't wait...
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Xen on February 15, 2017, 09:51:36 AM
I like the struggle for reynolds, if anyone has ever followed his insta, he battles 139 / 149 on occasion this will either fuck him up or be perfect.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: iwshilvdnfinland on February 15, 2017, 10:09:42 AM
I like the struggle for reynolds, if anyone has ever followed his insta, he battles 139 / 149 on occasion this will either fuck him up or be perfect.

i've noticed that too
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Mick on February 15, 2017, 10:48:07 AM
Currently riding 139's. 149's felt clunky for me on 8.25 decks. Cannot wait.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Xen on February 15, 2017, 10:59:46 AM
I've pretty much skate the mid sizes 8.25/8.38, that's why I've been in the ACE (and theeve/krux camps) as they provide. I've never been a fan of 149s on 8.25s, even tho that's primarily what I've ridden if I'm on Thunder or Indys.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: art hellman on February 15, 2017, 11:37:28 AM
ive been considering 159 on 8.5
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: FULTON on February 15, 2017, 12:32:33 PM
Tactics said June they come out. I emailed them
Might be a cool truck. I'll try them
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: 144p on February 15, 2017, 12:51:13 PM
ive been considering 159 on 8.5
I rode 159's on an 8.5, worked great.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: N.L. on February 15, 2017, 01:11:30 PM
ive been considering 159 on 8.5
I rode 159's on an 8.5, worked great.

Real nice. Lines your wheel edges up perfect (on most wheel shapes).

Those Indy 144 would have been a dream for me 10 years ago. Alas, I'm sold on 149/159s...
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Mick on February 21, 2017, 09:44:12 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BQx-a3eD1eH/?taken-by=independenttrucks (https://www.instagram.com/p/BQx-a3eD1eH/?taken-by=independenttrucks)
Could this be the showing of the 144's?
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: SodaJerk on February 21, 2017, 09:47:37 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BQx-a3eD1eH/?taken-by=independenttrucks (https://www.instagram.com/p/BQx-a3eD1eH/?taken-by=independenttrucks)
Could this be the showing of the 144's?
The set they chose to put up on Instagram looks like it has a huge manufacturing fault on the hanger.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Tracer on February 21, 2017, 10:23:05 AM
What a cocktease... Looks like the same stage 11?  ::) :'(
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: N.L. on February 21, 2017, 10:26:03 AM
The 144s are in the new catalog. Looks exactly the same as all the other Stage 11s, same heights etc...

https://nhsb2b.com/catalogs/61/2017-spring-hardgoods/6/independent/ (https://nhsb2b.com/catalogs/61/2017-spring-hardgoods/6/independent/)
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: calvinsdream on February 21, 2017, 01:15:27 PM
What a cocktease... Looks like the same stage 11?  ::) :'(

Why would they be a different stage just because they're a different size?
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: N.L. on February 21, 2017, 02:08:49 PM
What a cocktease... Looks like the same stage 11?  ::) :'(

Why would they be a different stage just because they're a different size?

(http://i67.tinypic.com/29vj4hk.jpg)

 But it appears not...
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: calvinsdream on February 21, 2017, 02:34:32 PM
What a cocktease... Looks like the same stage 11?  ::) :'(

Why would they be a different stage just because they're a different size?

(http://i67.tinypic.com/29vj4hk.jpg)

 But it appears not...

That's just truck height though - I thought stages had to do with the design and geometry of the entire truck. Ah well small difference anyway. Kind of interested to see if stage 12s ever become a thing.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Mick on February 21, 2017, 03:24:57 PM
Just watched Independent's live stream on Instagram. They showed the 144's and put them next to a board to show the flush-ness. They said they were available now on NHS but they aren't there.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: rob on February 21, 2017, 07:14:22 PM
What a cocktease... Looks like the same stage 11?  ::) :'(

Why would they be a different stage just because they're a different size?

(http://i67.tinypic.com/29vj4hk.jpg)

 But it appears not...

That's just truck height though - I thought stages had to do with the design and geometry of the entire truck. Ah well small difference anyway. Kind of interested to see if stage 12s ever become a thing.

well truthfully the stage 11 werent even that big a design and geometry difference compared to stage 10, all they literally did was extend/elongate the pivot stem so it wiggles in the pivot cup more freely for sharper deeper turns and added cylinder bushings. bam stage 11.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: McJagger on February 21, 2017, 07:37:02 PM
Whoa, I thought they'd only release the standards, but the forged hollows at the lower height too?

I am definitely way more excited about this than I should be.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Xen on February 21, 2017, 08:35:08 PM
What a cocktease... Looks like the same stage 11?  ::) :'(

Why would they be a different stage just because they're a different size?

(http://i67.tinypic.com/29vj4hk.jpg)

 But it appears not...

That's just truck height though - I thought stages had to do with the design and geometry of the entire truck. Ah well small difference anyway. Kind of interested to see if stage 12s ever become a thing.

well truthfully the stage 11 werent even that big a design and geometry difference compared to stage 10, all they literally did was extend/elongate the pivot stem so it wiggles in the pivot cup more freely for sharper deeper turns and added cylinder bushings. bam stage 11.

They didn't fuck with the geo as far as anyone has noticed/said.

They are, however, taller and the yoke was adjusted so it didn't bind the top washer to the back of the hanger fucking up the turn and so it wouldn't stick out so much past the bottom washer. They freaked out because ACE and Theeve were gaining traction fixing what was wrong with the 9/10 stages; look at early aces and theeves and then stage XI.

Indy Geo is fine, if a bit slow and predictable (hence no change) but their lightest is still the heaviest. What they really need from a purley marketing pov is a thunder-type truck: light, trim and sharp turning.

ACE/Theeve and Krux are stage II/III - Stage XI attempted to be 5-8 (so they said) but again, all they did was fix the binding/washer issues and the yoke. Why they made them taller, I don't know.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: ChuckRamone on February 22, 2017, 12:00:51 AM
can't wait till these can be ordered. I'm going to play with my semi-hard cock as I navigate to "144s" on the online retail site and start slowly stroking it as it hardens and more and more rapidly and vigorously as I fill in my name and address. my fully erect cock will be throbbing and quivering when I enter my credit card information. I'll stroke it steadily yet firmly until I ejaculate while clicking the button to confirm my order and wind it down with a few final pumps. as I pant to catch my breath, I'll realize what I've done and regretfully and pathetically wipe the cum off my floor.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: MaitlandPrivado on February 22, 2017, 06:46:05 AM
can't wait till these can be ordered. I'm going to play with my semi-hard cock as I navigate to "144s" on the online retail site and start slowly stroking it as it hardens and more and more rapidly and vigorously as I fill in my name and address. my fully erect cock will be throbbing and quivering when I enter my credit card information. I'll stroke it steadily yet firmly until I ejaculate while clicking the button to confirm my order and wind it down with a few final pumps. as I pant to catch my breath, I'll realize what I've done and regretfully and pathetically wipe the cum off my floor.

This is exactly what I needed at 8:43 am. Startin' hump day off right!
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: the snake on February 22, 2017, 07:02:29 AM
we were good with 149mm...just sayin
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: 144p on February 22, 2017, 07:14:21 AM
They will be hitting shops by late this week.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: VCR on February 22, 2017, 09:03:52 AM
Will there be a hollow one?
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Paco Supreme on February 22, 2017, 12:16:37 PM
read the catalog dude, it's available in most options.

Skate warehouse has the standards available now
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Roisto on February 22, 2017, 01:17:35 PM
we were good with 149mm...just sayin


Somebody at NHS has been lurking the truck setups thread. Over there no one's good with anything, for more than a week at least...  :)
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Esmith5488 on February 22, 2017, 01:57:46 PM
skate warehouse posted that they had them online for those interested, but I'm going to stick with 149s
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: rob on February 22, 2017, 11:28:49 PM
we were good with 149mm...just sayin


Somebody at NHS has been lurking the truck setups thread. Over there no one's good with anything, for more than a week at least...� :)

aha wait are you saying no ones good with anything at nhs or the trucks tread, cause the trucks thread no one is ever satisfied.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Roisto on February 22, 2017, 11:47:10 PM
we were good with 149mm...just sayin


Somebody at NHS has been lurking the truck setups thread. Over there no one's good with anything, for more than a week at least...� :)

aha wait are you saying no ones good with anything at nhs or the trucks tread, cause the trucks thread no one is ever satisfied.

The trucks thread man. It's such a funny thread. I've gone bonkers with trucks too because of the thread. I now seem to have found my ideal pair with Ace 44s with Ace bottom and Bones medium top though. But due to the thread I had to buy mag plates for the Aces to have something to fiddle with.

I've also been wanting to try Thunders and Ventures for a while now cuz of the thread even though I'm pretty sure I'd hate both.  :D
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: rob on February 22, 2017, 11:54:45 PM
we were good with 149mm...just sayin


Somebody at NHS has been lurking the truck setups thread. Over there no one's good with anything, for more than a week at least...� :)

aha wait are you saying no ones good with anything at nhs or the trucks tread, cause the trucks thread no one is ever satisfied.

The trucks thread man. It's such a funny thread. I've gone bonkers with trucks too because of the thread. I now seem to have found my ideal pair with Ace 44s with Ace bottom and Bones medium top though. But due to the thread I had to buy mag plates for the Aces to have something to fiddle with.

I've also been wanting to try Thunders and Ventures for a while now cuz of the thread even though I'm pretty sure I'd hate both.  :D

you cant go wrong with thunders, trust me. the way thunders are made feel like they were actually put through trial and error and pro tested and feedback.

ventures i feel meh, theyre not bad but theyre not up to par with thunder, indy, or ace sadly. theyre right at 4th

im back on my indy 139 low cause they just feel closer to what i remember my old krux downlows feel turn wise. i love my thunders and theyre good trucks but i like my indy 139 lows more cause of the solid indy build/feel but lower center of gravity and quick controlled pop response with that signature indy carvy turn. they just give me better board feel too. i can plug my indy lows on any board and do fine but the thunders i have to get use to from deck to deck oddly
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: 90sDamiano on February 23, 2017, 08:42:53 PM
To market the 144 for 8.25 isn't the best idea imo. The 149 fits perfect on the 8.25. I would even ride my 149s on an 8.18 and the hanger would barley poke out the sides. The 144 seems like it would be ideal for someone who skates an 8.125 or 8.18 that doesn't want to ride 139/149s. Either way pretty cool that Indy is putting out new stuff.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: N.L. on February 23, 2017, 09:31:53 PM
General rule of thumb is line up your axles with your deck width. Everyone's got their own deal but lots of people are stoked on a 8.25" truck either way.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: j....soy..... on February 23, 2017, 10:35:32 PM
Yeah....there is no such thing as 'barely poking out'.....unless you're skating a shaped deck.....
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Esquivel on February 24, 2017, 02:34:40 AM
What a cocktease... Looks like the same stage 11?  ::) :'(

Why would they be a different stage just because they're a different size?

(http://i67.tinypic.com/29vj4hk.jpg)

 But it appears not...

That's just truck height though - I thought stages had to do with the design and geometry of the entire truck. Ah well small difference anyway. Kind of interested to see if stage 12s ever become a thing.

well truthfully the stage 11 werent even that big a design and geometry difference compared to stage 10, all they literally did was extend/elongate the pivot stem so it wiggles in the pivot cup more freely for sharper deeper turns and added cylinder bushings. bam stage 11.

They didn't fuck with the geo as far as anyone has noticed/said.

They are, however, taller and the yoke was adjusted so it didn't bind the top washer to the back of the hanger fucking up the turn and so it wouldn't stick out so much past the bottom washer. They freaked out because ACE and Theeve were gaining traction fixing what was wrong with the 9/10 stages; look at early aces and theeves and then stage XI.

Indy Geo is fine, if a bit slow and predictable (hence no change) but their lightest is still the heaviest. What they really need from a purley marketing pov is a thunder-type truck: light, trim and sharp turning.

ACE/Theeve and Krux are stage II/III - Stage XI attempted to be 5-8 (so they said) but again, all they did was fix the binding/washer issues and the yoke. Why they made them taller, I don't know.

I have always been waiting for an indy 149 low, like the thunder 149 high but still no luck. There seem to be an awful lot of people (including me) who do not use indys because of the height. During my 139/7.8 days i would swear by independent but since i upped my board's/trucks' width, indys are too much.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: SodaJerk on February 26, 2017, 01:55:10 AM
^^^I know it's not always optimal but have you tried smaller wheels? Or the forged baseplates?
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Sedition on February 27, 2017, 12:26:12 AM
Just to clarify...

Indys
Standards: 55mm
Hollow forged: 53.5mm
Lows: 48.5mm

Thunders
151/149 HI: 52.3mm
143/145/147 HI: 49.78
143/145 LO: 48.3

I ride 8.25" decks. 149 (Indy or Thunder) seem to fit perfectly. That said, I am sure I'll try a pair of 144, because, well, skate nerd.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Krooked antihero on February 27, 2017, 05:14:12 AM
Just to clarify...

Indys
Standards: 55mm
Hollow forged: 53.5mm
Lows: 48.5mm

Thunders
151/149 HI: 52.3mm
143/145/147 HI: 49.78
143/145 LO: 48.3

I ride 8.25" decks. 149 (Indy or Thunder) seem to fit perfectly. That said, I am sure I'll try a pair of 144, because, well, skate nerd.


I ride mostly 8.25" decks too on wintertime and I can't take 149's, imo they just don't fit. Can't wait those things arrive here so I can stop riding these 8.25 Furys... in summer i skate 139's on 8" board, they fit perfectly.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Esquivel on February 27, 2017, 09:28:35 AM
^^^I know it's not always optimal but have you tried smaller wheels? Or the forged baseplates?

I think i already am at small wheel territory (52-51mm) but the forged baseplates sound like a good idea. Since i don't like to mix truck components i will have to wait until my current thunders' axle slip gets intolerable and to look for the forged indys then. According to Sedition's post their height is only just above 1 mm over thunders so i should be more than good with those. I had never noticed the forged ones were lower!
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on February 27, 2017, 09:59:54 AM
^^^I know it's not always optimal but have you tried smaller wheels? Or the forged baseplates?

I think i already am at small wheel territory (52-51mm) but the forged baseplates sound like a good idea. Since i don't like to mix truck components i will have to wait until my current thunders' axle slip gets intolerable and to look for the forged indys then. According to Sedition's post their height is only just above 1 mm over thunders so i should be more than good with those. I had never noticed the forged ones were lower!

The baseplates are thinner, it's not that noticeable. 
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: SodaJerk on February 27, 2017, 12:40:14 PM
^^^I know it's not always optimal but have you tried smaller wheels? Or the forged baseplates?

I think i already am at small wheel territory (52-51mm) but the forged baseplates sound like a good idea. Since i don't like to mix truck components i will have to wait until my current thunders' axle slip gets intolerable and to look for the forged indys then. According to Sedition's post their height is only just above 1 mm over thunders so i should be more than good with those. I had never noticed the forged ones were lower!

The baseplates are thinner, it's not that noticeable. 
I found it noticeable enough to prefer them.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: McJagger on February 27, 2017, 07:10:55 PM
anyone have that inside tip on where this little guy, who can't handle the raw ones, can order the forged?
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Paco Supreme on February 27, 2017, 07:39:24 PM
Has anyone sized up from a 139 to 144 yet? if so how are you liking it.

These might be the push to stop me from using extra speed rings on my inner wheel
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Deekay on March 01, 2017, 06:28:00 AM
^^^I know it's not always optimal but have you tried smaller wheels? Or the forged baseplates?

I think i already am at small wheel territory (52-51mm) but the forged baseplates sound like a good idea. Since i don't like to mix truck components i will have to wait until my current thunders' axle slip gets intolerable and to look for the forged indys then. According to Sedition's post their height is only just above 1 mm over thunders so i should be more than good with those. I had never noticed the forged ones were lower!

The baseplates are thinner, it's not that noticeable.  

Have you ever tried a regular baseplate and then one with the forged right after? I think it feels like it could be a different truck model even..
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on March 01, 2017, 09:55:47 PM
Not sure if abd but, NHS is already selling the 144s
http://www.nhsfunfactory.com/144-silver-silver-standard (http://www.nhsfunfactory.com/144-silver-silver-standard)
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: ChuckRamone on March 01, 2017, 11:58:00 PM
Not sure if abd but, NHS is already selling the 144s
http://www.nhsfunfactory.com/144-silver-silver-standard (http://www.nhsfunfactory.com/144-silver-silver-standard)

also at sw and tactics now. I'm waiting for the reynolds models.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Randozzi on March 02, 2017, 12:09:15 AM
Picked up a set today, looking forward to trying them out tomorrow.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on March 02, 2017, 12:50:03 AM
Picked up a set today, looking forward to trying them out tomorrow.
do you have any 149s? Lotto a see a pic of th 144s next to som 149s.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Randozzi on March 02, 2017, 01:11:24 PM
Set them up already so it's not the best comparison photo but the 144s are noticeably shorter.

(http://mydumbluck.com/SLAP/149144.jpg)
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on March 03, 2017, 01:38:48 AM
Set them up already so it's not the best comparison photo but the 144s are noticeably shorter.

(http://mydumbluck.com/SLAP/149144.jpg)

Thanks mate.  Picture is exactly what I was looking for.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Chavo on March 03, 2017, 10:32:33 PM
Just got them in. The axles measure exactly 8.25" wide. I'm setting them up with a Real 8.25x32 and they are completely flush with the edge of the board (at mounting point). The aluminum part of the hanger also surprisingly measures true to size at 144mm.

I wonder how Ermico lines up the mounting holes? Some are clearly closer the edge of the baseplate than the other. Upon further inspection, the baseplates are way out of square. Additionally, Stage XIs look shinier than older stages, but there are deep casting marks compared to a Stage VIII (which have a course finish, but all previously sharp corners are rounded off and casting marks are smoothed out). I know trucks are meant for abuse, but I felt that Indys were once semi-precision components. And if the baseplates are trapezoidal, that does not make feel confident with hole alignment.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: SodaJerk on March 04, 2017, 03:43:38 AM
Are they gonna come with forged or titanium options?
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Paco Supreme on March 04, 2017, 05:24:39 AM
Titaniums im sure of, i cant remember if the catalog posted a page back had a forged version. I'd guess they would, it seems almost every page had the new 144 logo on it, might just be a more scaled back release, maybe late spring/summer
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Chavo on March 04, 2017, 12:49:01 PM
Are they gonna come with forged or titanium options?

Yes on both, but not for all of the Signature models or color options. Right now, stores only have standard 144s available.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: the snake on March 04, 2017, 10:02:13 PM
Just got them in. The axles measure exactly 8.25" wide. I'm setting them up with a Real 8.25x32 and they are completely flush with the edge of the board (at mounting point). The aluminum part of the hanger also surprisingly measures true to size at 144mm.

I wonder how Ermico lines up the mounting holes? Some are clearly closer the edge of the baseplate than the other. Upon further inspection, the baseplates are way out of square. Additionally, Stage XIs look shinier than older stages, but there are deep casting marks compared to a Stage VIII (which have a course finish, but all previously sharp corners are rounded off and casting marks are smoothed out). I know trucks are meant for abuse, but I felt that Indys were once semi-precision components. And if the baseplates are trapezoidal, that does not make feel confident with hole alignment.
damn it sucks...could you post pics ?
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Harm Rochel on March 06, 2017, 07:22:09 AM
Does anyone know where to get some 144 in Europe?
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: max power on March 06, 2017, 08:27:45 AM
Set some up with a 8.25" Scumco the other day. I really liked the way they felt with that deck.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Randozzi on March 06, 2017, 11:38:37 AM
Same here, great combo.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: mac on March 07, 2017, 11:26:22 AM
Maybe this has been said but I was riding some 149 stage 11s and found them to be a little too bulky - After switching to 146 stage 8s after riding some 8.25 krux, i feel like i have way better control of the board, especially on ledges. The only thing the more narrow truck is worse for is slappys.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Xen on March 07, 2017, 09:54:30 PM
Maybe this has been said but I was riding some 149 stage 11s and found them to be a little too bulky - After switching to 146 stage 8s after riding some 8.25 krux, i feel like i have way better control of the board, especially on ledges. The only this the more narrow truck is worse for is slappys.

If cost isn't a barrier, some 149 forged hollows or Ti might suit you?
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: mac on March 09, 2017, 12:44:32 PM
Im talking about bulk as in size. its not about the weight but the length of the axle. i wouldn't even want to set up 149s again at this point
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: McJagger on March 10, 2017, 12:24:11 PM
More of the 144s are slowly popping up on the NHS site.

Here are Forged Titaniums:

http://www.nhsfunfactory.com/144-stage-11-forged-titanium-black-truck-co-standard (http://www.nhsfunfactory.com/144-stage-11-forged-titanium-black-truck-co-standard)

Unfortunately, they've only got the black ones so far.  I'm holding out for the plain silver.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: j....soy..... on March 11, 2017, 06:24:15 AM
I think these trucks are intended for people who have 139's....sizing down trucks will cause you pain....
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: 144p on March 11, 2017, 07:25:25 PM
As A shop it just eliminates the 139.
I will be selling 144's to people riding 8 and up probably.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on March 11, 2017, 07:39:37 PM
As A shop it just eliminates the 139.
I will be selling 144's to people riding 8 and up probably.
But 8.1 and 139s is the best combo ever.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: FULTON on March 11, 2017, 08:26:21 PM

Sucks to see Indy get all graphic happy a la Thunder. Those titanium with the cross on
The hanger looks like shit.

Graphics on trucks seem suitable for 9 year olds.





More of the 144s are slowly popping up on the NHS site.

Here are Forged Titaniums:

http://www.nhsfunfactory.com/144-stage-11-forged-titanium-black-truck-co-standard (http://www.nhsfunfactory.com/144-stage-11-forged-titanium-black-truck-co-standard)

Unfortunately, they've only got the black ones so far.  I'm holding out for the plain silver.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: 144p on March 11, 2017, 08:37:20 PM
Agreed, no one is spending $80 on those.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Paco Supreme on March 12, 2017, 12:01:55 AM
Wow, thats pricey, they're like $14 cheaper on socal and probably every other shop that'll get them in
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on March 12, 2017, 11:34:54 AM
I was told they jack the prices up on there so people will support a shop before buying direct.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Xen on March 12, 2017, 11:53:56 AM
I was told they jack the prices up on there so people will support a shop before buying direct.

I've heard that as well, if true good on them. I've only purchased from NHS when I can't find a specific deck anywhere else.

I'm kind of eyeing those Hollow Kremers...makes you wonder why they didn't bother making raws in other options first, but it might depend on what is in the queue at the time, e.g., those logo/black Tis and the Kremers.

Im talking about bulk as in size. its not about the weight but the length of the axle. i wouldn't even want to set up 149s again at this point

I've been riding a pair of Theeve ti 8.18" on both an 8.25" and 8.38" (the 8.38 tapers enough so its not magic caroet) - I set up another 8.25" with some 149s and it seemed, felt awkward, which is odd given that combo is all I skated for years and years. Guess I just got used to the 8.25" ish width.

Let's go Thunder 148s ;)
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: McJagger on March 12, 2017, 05:30:03 PM
I was told they jack the prices up on there so people will support a shop before buying direct.

I've heard that as well, if true good on them. I've only purchased from NHS when I can't find a specific deck anywhere else.

I'm kind of eyeing those Hollow Kremers...makes you wonder why they didn't bother making raws in other options first, but it might depend on what is in the queue at the time, e.g., those logo/black Tis and the Kremers.

Im talking about bulk as in size. its not about the weight but the length of the axle. i wouldn't even want to set up 149s again at this point

I've been riding a pair of Theeve ti 8.18" on both an 8.25" and 8.38" (the 8.38 tapers enough so its not magic caroet) - I set up another 8.25" with some 149s and it seemed, felt awkward, which is odd given that combo is all I skated for years and years. Guess I just got used to the 8.25" ish width.

Let's go Thunder 148s ;)

Yeah, i'm not feeling the price or the colorway.  I just figure once I see them pop up on there that it's a good indicator they'll be available elsewhere soon.

However, I too am really wanting some Thunder 148s!  I'll be an Indy guy though until Thunder gets that worked out.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: snickers on March 13, 2017, 11:41:09 PM
Has anyone set them up on an 8.38 or bigger?
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: max power on March 13, 2017, 11:49:41 PM
Has anyone set them up on an 8.38 or bigger?
Why? Because you miss the magic carpet feel of 139's on an 8.25?
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: the snake on March 14, 2017, 01:55:29 AM
Has anyone set them up on an 8.38 or bigger?
Why? Because you miss the magic carpet feel of 139's on an 8.25?
hahaha
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Xen on April 04, 2017, 09:58:02 AM
Has anyone set them up on an 8.38 or bigger?
Why? Because you miss the magic carpet feel of 139's on an 8.25?

I've been rocking a set of the 144 Kremer hollows/cast plates since they released, love'em. Usually I'm a weight whore and get Ti but I really wanted regular plates.

Set them up on and 8.25" for a week, then fooled around on an 8.38 (blood wizard -  and while still 'full' it narrows juuuust after the trucks so it fits great. I'd wager 8.125" decks would work fine as well (having ridden ace 44s on one).

Interestingly enough, the 144s at 55mm don't feel at all tippy like the 8'24" Krux do. Go figure.

Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: rob on April 05, 2017, 12:08:07 AM
Has anyone set them up on an 8.38 or bigger?
Why? Because you miss the magic carpet feel of 139's on an 8.25?

I've been rocking a set of the 144 Kremer hollows/cast plates since they released, love'em. Usually I'm a weight whore and get Ti but I really wanted regular plates.

Set them up on and 8.25" for a week, then fooled around on an 8.38 (blood wizard -  and while still 'full' it narrows juuuust after the trucks so it fits great. I'd wager 8.125" decks would work fine as well (having ridden ace 44s on one).

Interestingly enough, the 144s at 55mm don't feel at all tippy like the 8'24" Krux do. Go figure.



yo xen if your done with those krux 8.25 can i have them?
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: dirtjers on May 23, 2017, 10:16:48 AM
The news of the "in-between" truck is great... I've only got two sets of stage 10s left on ice until I have to try and get used to the stage 11 skyscrapers. I think the difference is ridiculously small, like 53mm to 55mm, but it feels SO much different. Stage 10 is a perfect truck in my eyes... or... maybe it isn't, but it's what I'm used to. Kind of the same thing haha, you can't ask a man to change trucks after so many years. Decks and wheels are fun to experiment with, but trucks?!
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Paco Supreme on May 23, 2017, 04:45:36 PM
any release on the plain silver titanium versions? i want to try them but im not buying black trucks
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: ChuckRamone on May 25, 2017, 08:16:31 PM
the reynolds 144s are available. those look sweet.
Title: Re: Independent Trucks release 144 stage 11 model
Post by: Deekay on May 28, 2017, 03:48:53 PM
The news of the "in-between" truck is great... I've only got two sets of stage 10s left on ice until I have to try and get used to the stage 11 skyscrapers. I think the difference is ridiculously small, like 53mm to 55mm, but it feels SO much different. Stage 10 is a perfect truck in my eyes... or... maybe it isn't, but it's what I'm used to. Kind of the same thing haha, you can't ask a man to change trucks after so many years. Decks and wheels are fun to experiment with, but trucks?!

The whole time I was reading this, I imagined Larry David standing in an elevator saying this whole paragraph out loud to some stranger

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