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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: Tracer on March 27, 2017, 09:01:43 PM
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Nyjah's neck/face tat shows me he has enough to retire nicely, I'm sure he conferred with his agent and got the green light. Add the monster deal and whatever else. He won't be doing cracker commercials anymore that's for sure.
Busenitz and Stefan are all time best sellers, their checks have got to be insane. Easy millionaires, don't have to skate much anymore and it shows in their footage. Big names, not much left to sell.
Tony has everything including best selling video games. Billionaire? Close?
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Lol what?! you're reading way to far into the neck tattoo thing. Tattoos aren't taboo anymore, every man and his dog has a neck/throat/hand tattoo these days. You can easily get a construction or mining job, just not an office job....
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Lol what?! you're reading way to far into the neck tattoo thing. Tattoos aren't taboo anymore, every man and his dog has a neck/throat/hand tattoo these days. You can easily get a construction or mining job, just not an office job....
Nyjah drives a custom R8 and Lamborghini, owns a huge private skatepark and bought houses in LA. He's not a dumbass so it wouldn't be surprising if he has 20M in the bank. People like this involved with Nike get (probably free) wealth management services and that's the tip. This isn't Cephas begging for shoes on the Bunt.
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Getting his neck tattooed has nothing to do with how much money he has in the bank or how many houses. It's a natural progression of collecting tattoos
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I'm sure all the big Nike guys are doing really well, prod Shane O'Neill ishod Cory grant etc. cobra cole probably ain't broke either
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What kind of car Brad Cromer drives ? He must be loaded. If not; life aint fair at all.
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The obvious one here is prod. He's a smart guy and managed his wealth, finances and investments early on.
Mike Carroll and Rick Howard are very well of. Same with konston and borra.
Nick is obviously fucked up rich, as is dyrdek.
I'd bet if your talking straight up cash though, with current pros, prod is waaay ahead of everyone but hawk
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Big Lutzka
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Busenitz and Stefan are all time best sellers, their checks have got to be insane. Easy millionaires, don't have to skate much anymore and it shows in their footage. Big names, not much left to sell.
Take back what you said about booze >:( oh wait, tracer thread. my bad...
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I thought he was broke:
http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=94045.0 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=94045.0)
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I thought he was broke:
http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=94045.0 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=94045.0)
Face!!!
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I thought he was broke:
http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=94045.0 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=94045.0)
Hey man, a lot can change in a few months. Tracer is like MJ. His creative opinions and ideas are constantly evolving.
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i knew this was a tracer thread.. you've also got a real funny way of starting threads.
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Isn't curren caples sponsored for both Surf and Skate ?
he got to make a lot, surfers are usually really rich
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Karl Watson said on here that most dudes make $40K-$60K per year, definitely not bad money.
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Isn't curren caples sponsored for both Surf and Skate ?
he got to make a lot, surfers are usually really rich
I'm pretty sure he gets free surfboards via Robert Wiener & RVCA, he still has that Target and Vans money coming in monthly.
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Karl Watson said on here that most dudes make $40K-$60K per year, definitely not bad money.
are you 12? thats not great
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Busenitz and Stefan are all time best sellers, their checks have got to be insane. Easy millionaires, don't have to skate much anymore and it shows in their footage. Big names, not much left to sell.
Take back what you said about booze >:( oh wait, tracer thread. my bad...
Took the words right out of my mouth.
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Google says Nyjah has 550K net worth, but I'm sure he has contracts for millions of dollars per a certain number of years.
Also, net worth is calculated by what you own, subtracting what is owed. So he may be making a ton of money, but also owes a ton of money toward houses/cars/ect.
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Karl Watson said on here that most dudes make $40K-$60K per year, definitely not bad money.
are you 12? thats not great
Especially if you're living in LA/Bay Area/NYC which it seems most skaters have to
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Karl Watson said on here that most dudes make $40K-$60K per year, definitely not bad money.
That's strange because Ryan Lay mentioned not too long ago that it's around $24-30K with paying shoe/board/clothing sponsors, which is a significant downturn: http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2015/11/10/skateboarding-as-a-career-with-ryan-lay/ (http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2015/11/10/skateboarding-as-a-career-with-ryan-lay/)
Would the industry be more profitable nowadays if it was composed solely of companies created and run by skateboarders?
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Karl Watson said on here that most dudes make $40K-$60K per year, definitely not bad money.
That's strange because Ryan Lay mentioned not too long ago that it's around $24-30K with paying shoe/board/clothing sponsors, which is a significant downturn: http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2015/11/10/skateboarding-as-a-career-with-ryan-lay/ (http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2015/11/10/skateboarding-as-a-career-with-ryan-lay/)
Would the industry be more profitable nowadays if it was composed solely of companies created and run by skateboarders?
It would be more profitable if there weren't 800 pros trying to eat out of the same trough. The pro ranks are horribly overpopulated.
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Karl Watson said on here that most dudes make $40K-$60K per year, definitely not bad money.
That's strange because Ryan Lay mentioned not too long ago that it's around $24-30K with paying shoe/board/clothing sponsors, which is a significant downturn: http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2015/11/10/skateboarding-as-a-career-with-ryan-lay/ (http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2015/11/10/skateboarding-as-a-career-with-ryan-lay/)
Would the industry be more profitable nowadays if it was composed solely of companies created and run by skateboarders?
It would be more profitable if there weren't 800 pros trying to eat out of the same trough. The pro ranks are horribly overpopulated.
That's true, plus maybe there's something to be said for raising the price of boards and giving the extra to the pro's salary. But then if Revive or whatever keeps their prices the same level, that's just more money for them. I'm just guessing here, I'm not an expert.
Not sure if I agree with the outside argument of getting rid of shop boards so brands can earn more money, that's tricky. Wouldn't agree with that as I proudly ride/rep Green Apple boards, plus the wood comes from Habitat and Girl as well. I also buy shop boards that are collabs with great artists like the Atlas/Brian Lotti one.
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Karl Watson said on here that most dudes make $40K-$60K per year, definitely not bad money.
That's strange because Ryan Lay mentioned not too long ago that it's around $24-30K with paying shoe/board/clothing sponsors, which is a significant downturn: http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2015/11/10/skateboarding-as-a-career-with-ryan-lay/ (http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2015/11/10/skateboarding-as-a-career-with-ryan-lay/)
Would the industry be more profitable nowadays if it was composed solely of companies created and run by skateboarders?
It would be more profitable if there weren't 800 pros trying to eat out of the same trough. The pro ranks are horribly overpopulated.
Very true. Think how many new pros there are for every one pro that retires or gets cut.
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Karl Watson said on here that most dudes make $40K-$60K per year, definitely not bad money.
That's strange because Ryan Lay mentioned not too long ago that it's around $24-30K with paying shoe/board/clothing sponsors, which is a significant downturn: http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2015/11/10/skateboarding-as-a-career-with-ryan-lay/ (http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2015/11/10/skateboarding-as-a-career-with-ryan-lay/)
Would the industry be more profitable nowadays if it was composed solely of companies created and run by skateboarders?
It would be more profitable if there weren't 800 pros trying to eat out of the same trough. The pro ranks are horribly overpopulated.
That's true, plus maybe there's something to be said for raising the price of boards and giving the extra to the pro's salary. But then if Revive or whatever keeps their prices the same level, that's just more money for them. I'm just guessing here, I'm not an expert.
Not sure if I agree with the outside argument of getting rid of shop boards so brands can earn more money, that's tricky. Wouldn't agree with that as I proudly ride/rep Green Apple boards, plus the wood comes from Habitat and Girl as well. I also buy shop boards that are collabs with great artists like the Atlas/Brian Lotti one.
What? That's welfare. I'm not doing that. Throwing out extra money I bust ass for so some kid doesn't have to get a job? Hell no.
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^Like you're not already payinf for Sheniquas weave?
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Dancing around your choice of words, my taxes go where they go. My paycheck sure as fuck isn't going to a nickname on instagram who doesn't want to go to work.
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Isn't it considered tacky to dig into someones pockets? In this current era of online markets it's really not that difficult to skate and make money ...you could be some joe-six pack with a 9-5 and an Ebay store and drive an Tesla
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Nick Trapasso has a neck tattoo, Nick Tripasso is a fucking millionaire.
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Karl Watson said on here that most dudes make $40K-$60K per year, definitely not bad money.
are you 12? thats not great
Never said it was great, just said it wasn't bad. That's more than most university lecturers get paid...
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Karl Watson said on here that most dudes make $40K-$60K per year, definitely not bad money.
are you 12? thats not great
Never said it was great, just said it wasn't bad. That's more than most university lecturers get paid...
Sadly true. Also got to keep in mind that most pro's aren't promised there $40-60K for a long run, just like old athletes.
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I'd say there is probably a pretty big divide between the haves and the have-nots in the industry now. Not like the late 90's, where if you had a pro-board on a good team (Alien/Habitat, Girl/Chocolate) you were making serious bank. Now, you need one of 3 things to be making big money, first is having a shoe with one of Nike, Adidas or Vans, second is energy drinks, and the third is Street league. I'd also assume there are some people making serious bank off of soft goods that may trickle down to the riders (FA and Palace).
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Karl Watson said on here that most dudes make $40K-$60K per year, definitely not bad money.
That's strange because Ryan Lay mentioned not too long ago that it's around $24-30K with paying shoe/board/clothing sponsors, which is a significant downturn: http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2015/11/10/skateboarding-as-a-career-with-ryan-lay/ (http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2015/11/10/skateboarding-as-a-career-with-ryan-lay/)
Would the industry be more profitable nowadays if it was composed solely of companies created and run by skateboarders?
It would be more profitable if there weren't 800 pros trying to eat out of the same trough. The pro ranks are horribly overpopulated.
That's true, plus maybe there's something to be said for raising the price of boards and giving the extra to the pro's salary. But then if Revive or whatever keeps their prices the same level, that's just more money for them. I'm just guessing here, I'm not an expert.
Not sure if I agree with the outside argument of getting rid of shop boards so brands can earn more money, that's tricky. Wouldn't agree with that as I proudly ride/rep Green Apple boards, plus the wood comes from Habitat and Girl as well. I also buy shop boards that are collabs with great artists like the Atlas/Brian Lotti one.
Are you in winterpeg? Mike is the shit and so is green apple. Just got boards and hoodies there again last month
Also sfb is correct. There is waaaaaay too many pros
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Karl Watson said on here that most dudes make $40K-$60K per year, definitely not bad money.
are you 12? thats not great
Never said it was great, just said it wasn't bad. That's more than most university lecturers get paid...
Sadly true. Also got to keep in mind that most pro's aren't promised there $40-60K for a long run, just like old athletes.
50k a year is not terrible at all if you are single and in your first 3-5 years of most jobs, or have partner that provides a second income.
the issue is when 60k is essentially your "cap" and instead of growing you will see diminishing returns...
university lecturer is a perfect example- in their first 5-7 years they will probably be making under 50k a year but at the 10 year mark (and thereafter) they will see a growth in their income. most pros have to bank fast or they fucked five years from now.
relevant:
https://www.streetplantbrand.com/jay-adams/ (https://www.streetplantbrand.com/jay-adams/)
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WHo Cares ?? At least talk about SK8ing and not the pay check they bring home.
I haven't been here long, But this Tracer dude sounds like a real Jerk
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there are so many god damn pros now it's hard to imagine they're all being paid 40-50k, even with a board sponsor and shoe sponsor. maybe skateboarding needs a D league.
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I thought he was broke:
http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=94045.0 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=94045.0)
Jesus Tracer, even I know a Ghibli is a Maserati not a Lamborghini.
Anyway $50K a year is pretty shit really and obviously would be related to just how many pros are around these days. Its none of my business and people can run their companies however they want but I get the feeling for a long time most pros would have a board for 3 to 5 years while they were at the top of their game then step back or get a tap on the shoulder. These days it seems like its 10 to 15 years probably half of which is kinda coasting collecting checks.
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It was a test
You passed
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The big money isn't in being a skateboarder, but rather owning a skateshop. Think about it, all the neck tattoos you want man. All you gotta do is kick back, eat hot wings, and collect the dough.
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The big money isn't in being a skateboarder, but rather owning a skateshop. Think about it, all the neck tattoos you want man. All you gotta do is kick back, eat hot wings, and collect the dough.
Eating hot wings and getting throat tats would seriously cut into your bottom line. Wings are about 1$ each and a throat tat by a world class artist runs upwards of 10K. You don't want to intimidate your customers with face ink, reckless eating and bad breath. Those wings can catch up to you and that tat could stretch into something ugly(er.)
I know certain shops make boatloads though.
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What? That's welfare. I'm not doing that. Throwing out extra money I bust ass for so some kid doesn't have to get a job? Hell no.
Hahaha
Are you in winterpeg? Mike is the shit and so is green apple. Just got boards and hoodies there again last month
Also sfb is correct. There is waaaaaay too many pros
I am, if you want to meet up for a session let me know.
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Karl Watson said on here that most dudes make $40K-$60K per year, definitely not bad money.
are you 12? thats not great
Never said it was great, just said it wasn't bad. That's more than most university lecturers get paid...
Sadly true. Also got to keep in mind that most pro's aren't promised there $40-60K for a long run, just like old athletes.
50k a year is not terrible at all if you are single and in your first 3-5 years of most jobs, or have partner that provides a second income.
the issue is when 60k is essentially your "cap" and instead of growing you will see diminishing returns...
university lecturer is a perfect example- in their first 5-7 years they will probably be making under 50k a year but at the 10 year mark (and thereafter) they will see a growth in their income. most pros have to bank fast or they fucked five years from now.
relevant:
https://www.streetplantbrand.com/jay-adams/ (https://www.streetplantbrand.com/jay-adams/)
thanks for that. rip jay adams.
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The median household income in the States was 55K in 2016 (https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/2016/comm/cb16-158_median_hh_income_map.html (https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/2016/comm/cb16-158_median_hh_income_map.html)). So, if a pro is making 50K a year he is doing pretty well considering about half of the households (not individual earners but households) in the country make less than he does for jumping around on his skateboard.
As for skaters who have serious money, it is likely few and far between. Rocco walked away with some serious money, Pierre from Sole Tech has some serious money, Dyrdek is sitting on some money (despite not having a soul), Jason Lee got some serious money from being in movies, and of course Tony Hawk.
Then I'd imagine the mainstream guys are next on the chain Sheckler, Nyjah, Pudwell, P-Rod, Chris Cole, D-Way, etc.
Then TNT, Busenitz, Janoski, Mayhew, Steve Cab, etc. are probably pretty comfortable and don't really need to worry about money.
And then there is everyone else who are going to need to find real jobs.
But, hell, even if we go with Ryan's number of 24K, I'd be stoked if someone paid me 24K to travel around the world and skateboard (well as long I was not riding for Zero and dealing with the Chief expecting me to wear the emo uniform and expecting me to kill myself for pennies while he remodeled his house on the beach).
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Although this is from 2014 it still has to be around the same for most of these guys
http://www.therichest.com/sports/other-sports/11-richest-professional-skateboarders-in-the-world/ (http://www.therichest.com/sports/other-sports/11-richest-professional-skateboarders-in-the-world/)
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Janoski is chilling for the rest of his life. Best selling Nike SB shoe by a long shot.
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Although this is from 2014 it still has to be around the same for most of these guys
http://www.therichest.com/sports/other-sports/11-richest-professional-skateboarders-in-the-world/ (http://www.therichest.com/sports/other-sports/11-richest-professional-skateboarders-in-the-world/)
Oh gawd. Shaun fucking White. Do people really consider him a skater?
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50K a year is no money in the states ? With 50k a year in Europe you're gonna live pretty good. I'm now curious how much does Lucas makes? If he gets around 50-60k a year he's living pretty good in France.
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50K a year is no money in the states ? With 50k a year in Europe you're gonna live pretty good. I'm now curious how much does Lucas makes? If he gets around 50-60k a year he's living pretty good in France.
Numerous high selling shoes with adidas. I'd say he's clearing waaa?y more than that.
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Lucas earns way more than 60k,
Shoe on Adidas : heard from a "french pro" that he got between 8 and 10k a month
Runs Helas Caps : Everyone wear them in Europe at least
Just got off clich?, but was their main skater for a long time.
Just got off fourstar, but was on the A team for a long time.
Pretty sure he lives very well, you can see his house in the Adidas Toulouse video, and it's beautiful.
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Janoski is chilling for the rest of his life. Best selling Nike SB shoe by a long shot.
In 2013 he out sold every other shoe nike made, beyond sb.
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Janoski is chilling for the rest of his life. Best selling Nike SB shoe by a long shot.
In 2013 he out sold every other shoe nike made, beyond sb.
That's fucked. Was that before he sold the rights to his name? If so, imagine the royalties??? Holy fuck
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He said on The Bunt that he never sold his name. That was just a rumor.
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Janoski is chilling for the rest of his life. Best selling Nike SB shoe by a long shot.
In 2013 he out sold every other shoe nike made, beyond sb.
wow, really?
I thought Nike's best seller has been the air monarch for the last decade straight
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He said on The Bunt that he never sold his name. That was just a rumor.
damn what? major twist
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He said on The Bunt that he never sold his name. That was just a rumor.
damn what? major twist
I'm betting Nike made him sign a non disclosure agreement when they bought his name, voiding his contract if he admits it is true.
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99% sure Janoski sold his name/rights in the 3MM range. no royalties.
that shoe isn't going anywhere 7 years later, it's a classic plus now a cross trainer. the name janoski is an abstraction from skateboarding at this point.
his decedents could have been set for generations. now he has to keep doing switch crooks forever.
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Even if he sold the rights to his name, it doesnt mean he cant have a structured deal with 1-3% royalties for life.
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janoski on black lodge confirmed
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oh jesus christ this shit again
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We all know he sold his name, no need for further discussion.
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We all know he sold his name, no need for further discussion.
Yeah there was an interview (text) a few years ago where he semi-openly discusses the "selling his name". Iirc he said he took a lump sum / long contract payment that removed royalties but ensured he was comfortable for life.
I didn't imagine this.
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http://theridechannel.com/features/2015/05/stefan-janoski-did-not-sell-name-to-nike (http://theridechannel.com/features/2015/05/stefan-janoski-did-not-sell-name-to-nike)
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P Rod has had 10 pro nike shoes not sure why everyone's hooked on Stefan?
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P Rod has had 10 pro nike shoes not sure why everyone's hooked on Stefan?
Probably because the janoski has outsold his 10 pro models 1000 fold or more
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The white P Rod 9 elite is probably the nicest looking shoe Nike SB has ever made.
(http://i.imgur.com/4U8qY5A.jpg)
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Nice shoe! Looks great for golfing
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(http://i.imgur.com/e7hnweL.jpg)
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Hahaha fuck
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(http://i.imgur.com/e7hnweL.jpg)
Anyone remember these bad boys?
(http://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/1/0309/06/new-etnies-lo-cut-ii-golf-shoes-mens-8-5-black_1_7155fc03393b016c2bf900338404ef20.jpg)
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Anyone remember these bad boys?
(http://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/1/0309/06/new-etnies-lo-cut-ii-golf-shoes-mens-8-5-black_1_7155fc03393b016c2bf900338404ef20.jpg)
why
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Karl Watson said on here that most dudes make $40K-$60K per year, definitely not bad money.
are you 12? thats not great
Lmao police officers and teachers come in making ess than 40k in most places. 40-60k a year for riding a skateboard isn't a bad deal at all.
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Karl Watson said on here that most dudes make $40K-$60K per year, definitely not bad money.
are you 12? thats not great
Lmao police officers and teachers come in making ess than 40k in most places. 40-60k a year for riding a skateboard isn't a bad deal at all.
To be fair, most skateboarders would not be making that money if they had to work an actual job. They would be working in kitchens or at retail stores. The only legal way to get a salary like that would be serving at a decent restaurant or trucking. Bartending is even more lucrative for uneducated people, though.
Aside from the 40-60k, they get a bunch of gear to resell, and get compensated for travel. The only thing that sucks is gettin injuries. It would have to fuck over most people, because of the financial costs. Even with really good insurance, surgeries cost thousands of dollars.
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Karl Watson said on here that most dudes make $40K-$60K per year, definitely not bad money.
are you 12? thats not great
Lmao police officers and teachers come in making ess than 40k in most places. 40-60k a year for riding a skateboard isn't a bad deal at all.
In my county they make $80,000+, much more than the teachers do.
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Karl Watson said on here that most dudes make $40K-$60K per year, definitely not bad money.
are you 12? thats not great
Lmao police officers and teachers come in making ess than 40k in most places. 40-60k a year for riding a skateboard isn't a bad deal at all.
To be fair, most skateboarders would not be making that money if they had to work an actual job. They would be working in kitchens or at retail stores. The only legal way to get a salary like that would be serving at a decent restaurant or trucking. Bartending is even more lucrative for uneducated people, though.
Aside from the 40-60k, they get a bunch of gear to resell, and get compensated for travel. The only thing that sucks is gettin injuries. It would have to fuck over most people, because of the financial costs. Even with really good insurance, surgeries cost thousands of dollars.
Professional skaters do not have a lot of longetivity, for the most part. And I would imagine that the time spent pursuing a career in skating might distance one even further from the culture of education and the idea of a "normal job". So the "economic value" of being a professional skater should be estimated not only from the perspective of how much money you make while being a pro, but also from the viewpoint of what other possible opportunities you block out when being a professional skater. Time also has a value and the time you spend being a pro can work against you (might be harder to move into other careers/education when you are a 40-year old ex professional with little experience outside of skating). It might be really fun being a pro while it lasts, though.
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Yeah cops can make over 100k easy. Most work mad uniformed security overtime. If a cop in america is making less than 70k hes a lazy fuck.
At least in the slightly bigger cities thats the case.
I would be a contests skater, Lutzka, fuck it, gimme that lump sum bitch.
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Lutzka's lump sum peaked with K Swiss announcing a skate program that never launched.
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Lutzka's lump sum peaked with K Swiss announcing a skate program that never launched.
Ill take it. They wouldnt even let me join the army, now thats fucking failure.
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I doubt 40k would cover much more than rent in a place like San Francisco.
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Nobody said sheckler ?
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I doubt 40k would cover much more than rent in a place like San Francisco.
Average rent per person according to whatever fucking study (not me so I don't care about your anecdotal experiences) in San Francisco in early 2017 is $3089. 40k would cover nothing.
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I doubt 40k would cover much more than rent in a place like San Francisco.
Average rent per person according to whatever fucking study (not me so I don't care about your anecdotal experiences) in San Francisco in early 2017 is $3089. 40k would cover nothing.
This makes the assumption that these guys are trying to live alone or that incomes in America allow normal people to live in single earner families. In Oakland the median household income is 52K per year. So if you had two pros sharing an apartment in Oakland they would be making roughly double the median household income for the area. Two guys getting paid double the median household income for playing with skateboards sounds pretty good. Moreover, the base income doesn't include the free trips around the world, free clothing, etc. Compared to most of the population (who make less than they do) they are doing fairly well, especially considering that they aren't working some shit ass retail job or some hard ass construction job.
The only way someone could convince me that the pros were being underpaid is if the company owners/executives were making tons of money, while paying the pros shit. When the Chief remodels his house on the beach while paying some of his pros $300 a month that is some serious bullshit. However, if the Chief was paying his riders $50 a month while only taking home x% more for himself that would be totally fine. If skateboarding can't pay the company's bills, why should it pay the skaters' bills?
Professional skaters do not have a lot of longetivity, for the most part. And I would imagine that the time spent pursuing a career in skating might distance one even further from the culture of education and the idea of a "normal job". So the "economic value" of being a professional skater should be estimated not only from the perspective of how much money you make while being a pro, but also from the viewpoint of what other possible opportunities you block out when being a professional skater. Time also has a value and the time you spend being a pro can work against you (might be harder to move into other careers/education when you are a 40-year old ex professional with little experience outside of skating). It might be really fun being a pro while it lasts, though.
1) The idea of someone "pursuing a career in skating" sounds a little to close to the way Jagger/Nyjah view skateboarding. Also, there are some pros putting in less "work" than the average local skater. 2) Going to university might not be cool in skateboarding, but considering a full-time student goes to class 12-15 hours a week 9 months out of the year, yea, it doesn't seem that a degree would be out of the question for a pro who has super flexible schedule. Not to mention, real universities offer online degrees, so the pro wouldn't even need to be anywhere near a university. 3) How many pros just fall into being sales reps after their "career" is over?
Some ams/pros are certainly getting ripped off (probably the guys who skate in Street League in terms of what % of income/profit go to the skaters opposed to Dyrdek and his corporate investor partners; NBA players get 51% of basketball related income), but to say someone making 50K a year for skateboarding isn't getting paid enough compared to the rest of America is a bit much. The median household income is below 60K, if one individual is making the median household income for jumping around on a skateboarding, that is pretty damn good compared to the rest of the people who actually work for a living.
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Bam margera is sitting pretty for the rest of his days.
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Cops starting wage is 60k+ in my neck of the woods. I don't know how much the average officer makes, but you better believe they're doing alright if every single one of them is making at the very least the average of an entire household. You're doing good if you're making 40k alone. Per capita income average of CA was 32k as of 2015. The reality is you have to shack up with other people if you want a decent living situation anywhere in CA, let alone the Bay Area. All the skaters up there are either making good money or living on top of each other. Probably both. Affording good housing is the best argument for marriage I can think of.
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I would imagine , Ellington, Reynolds and Greco make a decent amount off baker boys. hell at one point they were American distributor for Palace. That had to make them a nice chunk of change alone. but they're all really modest after sobering up.
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Yeah, Greco's 30 minute films about himself trying on shoes and eating pork chops are incredibly modest.
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Karl Watson said on here that most dudes make $40K-$60K per year, definitely not bad money.
are you 12? thats not great
Lmao police officers and teachers come in making ess than 40k in most places. 40-60k a year for riding a skateboard isn't a bad deal at all.
To be fair, most skateboarders would not be making that money if they had to work an actual job. They would be working in kitchens or at retail stores. The only legal way to get a salary like that would be serving at a decent restaurant or trucking. Bartending is even more lucrative for uneducated people, though.
Aside from the 40-60k, they get a bunch of gear to resell, and get compensated for travel. The only thing that sucks is gettin injuries. It would have to fuck over most people, because of the financial costs. Even with really good insurance, surgeries cost thousands of dollars.
Professional skaters do not have a lot of longetivity, for the most part. And I would imagine that the time spent pursuing a career in skating might distance one even further from the culture of education and the idea of a "normal job". So the "economic value" of being a professional skater should be estimated not only from the perspective of how much money you make while being a pro, but also from the viewpoint of what other possible opportunities you block out when being a professional skater. Time also has a value and the time you spend being a pro can work against you (might be harder to move into other careers/education when you are a 40-year old ex professional with little experience outside of skating). It might be really fun being a pro while it lasts, though.
A lot of this depends on your deals are set up, a kid i know on Deluxe and Nike has Ryan Clemmins as his manager and he said he's gonna get paid about $1500 a month when they offically put him on, and then when that happens the way his deal is set up Nike will have to start paying him around $2000 a month and Volcom will be paying him another $1500 or so. Albeit he rides for all top tier companies thats really good money for being an am. He's also a contest kid so that might get him a little bit more money, but $1500 a month for being am sounds pretty good, idk if thats a standard DLX deal or everyone has their own thing.
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Damn, 60k for an am...skateboarders do sacrifice education and their health for footage, so it makes sense to get paid well. One trip to the ER with X-rays and surgery usually runs from 3.5-7K, depending on the severity. Imagine having to spend over a month's income on medical bills...on a related note, do people get fully paid by their sponsors if they're injured for an extended period of time?
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Damn, 60k for an am...skateboarders do sacrifice education and their health for footage, so it makes sense to get paid well. One trip to the ER with X-rays and surgery usually runs from 3.5-7K, depending on the severity. Imagine having to spend over a month's income on medical bills...on a related note, do people get fully paid by their sponsors if they're injured for an extended period of time?
I am pretty sure that depends on if you're still repping the brand and moving product. Really popular dudes can be hurt for a long time and just post stuff on social media and show up to team/skate events (Malto, Mike Mo, etc.).
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Yeah, Greco's 30 minute films about himself trying on shoes and eating pork chops are incredibly modest.
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Karl Watson said on here that most dudes make $40K-$60K per year, definitely not bad money.
are you 12? thats not great
Lmao police officers and teachers come in making ess than 40k in most places. 40-60k a year for riding a skateboard isn't a bad deal at all.
To be fair, most skateboarders would not be making that money if they had to work an actual job. They would be working in kitchens or at retail stores. The only legal way to get a salary like that would be serving at a decent restaurant or trucking. Bartending is even more lucrative for uneducated people, though.
Aside from the 40-60k, they get a bunch of gear to resell, and get compensated for travel. The only thing that sucks is gettin injuries. It would have to fuck over most people, because of the financial costs. Even with really good insurance, surgeries cost thousands of dollars.
Professional skaters do not have a lot of longetivity, for the most part. And I would imagine that the time spent pursuing a career in skating might distance one even further from the culture of education and the idea of a "normal job". So the "economic value" of being a professional skater should be estimated not only from the perspective of how much money you make while being a pro, but also from the viewpoint of what other possible opportunities you block out when being a professional skater. Time also has a value and the time you spend being a pro can work against you (might be harder to move into other careers/education when you are a 40-year old ex professional with little experience outside of skating). It might be really fun being a pro while it lasts, though.
A lot of this depends on your deals are set up, a kid i know on Deluxe and Nike has Ryan Clemmins as his manager and he said he's gonna get paid about $1500 a month when they offically put him on, and then when that happens the way his deal is set up Nike will have to start paying him around $2000 a month and Volcom will be paying him another $1500 or so. Albeit he rides for all top tier companies thats really good money for being an am. He's also a contest kid so that might get him a little bit more money, but $1500 a month for being am sounds pretty good, idk if thats a standard DLX deal or everyone has their own thing.
If ams didn't get paid (like how it used to be) I think there would a lot less bullshit. I knew a dude that rode for black label as an am and didnt get paid, only pros get paid (yes I know it is a smaller company) but he would get checks from his other sponsors Brixton and Adidas and could not worry about a regular job. Clint walker has a job,no shoe sponsor has to hurt. Jon Sciano works and is on Deathwish and Lakai...was on dickies til that fell through...
In the end it's who you get hooked up by,but I see it a bummer that there aren't too many "hungry ams" anymore
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In the end it's who you get hooked up by,but I see it a bummer that there aren't too many "hungry ams" anymore
Get hungry on it, ams.