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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: ... on May 24, 2017, 09:40:19 AM
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Me and my friend were having an argument about this, and what better way to settle it than to see what the most knowledgeable, in-touch internet skate community thinks.
Here are 2 impossibles.
A full foot wrap from Dylan:
(http://media.giphy.com/media/lDcgLS03SUPAY/giphy.gif)
and a 360 shove toe wrap style one from Ty Peterson:
(http://media.giphy.com/media/dllcZOOBh6Wqc/giphy.gif)
So, what do you guys think? Do the 3shuv ones get a pass? Is a 3shuv one even equally as good as a full wrap?? The world wants to know
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full wrap is definitely superior since it looks way more "impossible" i guess
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Two different tricks
I wish people would realize
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two different tricks
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The shove it looking one is still an impossible, its just not as cool of one. Its got a kind of wrap, its just more of a horizontal wrap than vertical one. Obviously the more vertical the better though.
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second version is known as a "hipster flip"
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The shove it looking one is still an impossible, its just not as cool of one. Its got a kind of wrap, its just more of a horizontal wrap than vertical one. Obviously the more vertical the better though.
No it's not
Otherwise I guess Shane O'Neill has the best impossible ever
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It's kind of like when you don't fully pop a trick.
Yeah you did the trick, but cmon.
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Full wrap for it to be a real impossible. I'm in the long process of learning this trick and if I don't see my graphic when I wrap my board, then I don't see it as improvement. It's hard to wrap it every single time, but them's the breaks.
It's kind of like when you don't fully pop a trick.
Yeah you did the trick, but cmon.
That's a good way of putting it. Also similar when you do a rock n' roll and don't deck it. That's just my opinion though, and we all take shortcuts with tricks sometimes.
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The shove it looking one is still an impossible, its just not as cool of one. Its got a kind of wrap, its just more of a horizontal wrap than vertical one. Obviously the more vertical the better though.
No it's not
Otherwise I guess ED TEMPLETON has the best impossible ever
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you gotta keep em separated...fred gall
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Gotta see a full wrap. If back leg/foot is not touching the board, its a 3 shove.
Fuck I wish I could have them as consistent as Dylan though.
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You callthe horizontal one an impossible if you want... But youre wrong
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It's unfair to compare anyone's impossible to Dylan, his were that good.
I vote fred gall.
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full wrap
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I can't do impossibles, and neither can the kids that call 360 pop shuvs impossibles
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It's unfair to compare anyone's impossible to Dylan, his were that good.
I vote fred gall.
1. Dylan
2. Jon Goeman
3. Jon Rob Moore
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It's unfair to compare anyone's impossible to Dylan, his were that good.
I vote fred gall.
1. Dylan
2. Jon Goeman
3. Jon Rob Moore
-1 for not including Ed
It's kind of like when you don't fully pop a trick.
Yeah you did the trick, but cmon.
Yeah, exactly. Its the rocket mob flip of impossibles.
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The shove it looking one is still an impossible, its just not as cool of one. Its got a kind of wrap, its just more of a horizontal wrap than vertical one. Obviously the more vertical the better though.
I know what you mean, but ????????????
two different tricks IMO
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It's unfair to compare anyone's impossible to Dylan, his were that good.
I vote fred gall.
1. Dylan
2. Jon Goeman
3. Jon Rob Moore
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It's kind of like when you don't fully pop a trick.
Yeah you did the trick, but cmon.
I would gnar you if i could.
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1. Dylan
2. Jon Goeman
3. Jon Rob Moore
4. ed
zing
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I think Freds Impossibles are more of a 3 shuv style. Anyone back that up with footy?
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I side with the inventor..he was doing them 29 years ago up stages ???
(http://media.giphy.com/media/SWq2YLCIVccxy/giphy.gif)
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the only impossible that counts is Dylan's
the only option to vote is Fred Gall
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Silver Trucks Introduces Tiago Lemos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r25ZkyyfYLM#)
Tiago has a super sick 3 shuv at the 1:50 mark. All helicoptered in the air.
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(http://www.mcdonalds.co.uk/content/dam/mcdonaldsuk/item/live/mcdonalds-Crispy-Chicken-Wrap.png)
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I always thought the full wrap one was an impossible and the 3-shuv one was just a 3-shuv. I've seen BATB games where one person would wrap and then the other person would shuv and get away with it, but if I were the ref I'm not sure if I would make him re-do it or not. It's almost like when someone does a hardflip that goes straight up between their legs and you can't really tell if it really flipped or not and all along it was just a weirdly popped shuv-it or something.
Dylan's impossibles are a thing of beauty and Fred Gall wins.
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second version is known as a "hipster flip"
lmao
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the second gif is a 360 pop shuv. If it don't wrap it is not an impossible.
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Cromer's got a couple of different ones. 3:32 and 3:52. He's had nicer, Dylan-like ones, but I can't remember the videos.
Brad Cromer Outliers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNg8uZi2saY#)
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I side with the inventor..he was doing them 29 years ago up stages? ???
(http://media.giphy.com/media/SWq2YLCIVccxy/giphy.gif)
my favorite person to argue about, fuck him, prove that he invented it or any other of the tricks he and they claim he invented.
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Moto Shibata does em on vert and they're glorious..
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The difference between an impossible and a 3 shove are if it wraps. The difference between a good impossible and an okay/bad impossible is how good the wrap is. If it wraps, even a little bit on their toes, it's an impossible it's just a pretty shitty one. It's like a Greco kickflip vs a Reynolds kickflip. They're both kickflips but one sucks (in fairness to Jim mine looked like his for a long, long, long time).
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It's unfair to compare anyone's impossible to Dylan, his were that good.
I vote fred gall.
1. Dylan
2. Jon Goeman
3. Jon Rob Moore
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It's kind of like when you don't fully pop a trick.
Yeah you did the trick, but cmon.
I would gnar you if i could.
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I side with the inventor..he was doing them 29 years ago up stages? ???
(http://media.giphy.com/media/SWq2YLCIVccxy/giphy.gif)
my favorite person to argue about, fuck him, prove that he invented it or any other of the tricks he and they claim he invented.
Yowza, where did that come from? I totally understand the reality that most pro's credited with "inventing" tricks probably didn't, but impossible is so weird I'd never doubt the Mutt made that up.
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I side with the inventor..he was doing them 29 years ago up stages?? ???
(http://media.giphy.com/media/SWq2YLCIVccxy/giphy.gif)
my favorite person to argue about, fuck him, prove that he invented it or any other of the tricks he and they claim he invented.
Yowza, where did that come from?? I totally understand the reality that most pro's credited with "inventing" tricks probably didn't, but impossible is so weird I'd never doubt the Mutt made that up.
hahaha, I've had a grudge with him since a demo in '94 or so, so I love to pick on/discredit him, that pigeon toed motherfucker
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Moto Shibata does em on vert and they're glorious..
hell yea.
Bucky used to do them on vert to fakie in like 1990. I remember a thing in the mag about it.
googled it..guess he's still doing them (tail grab).
Bucky Impossible Corner Bondi 2017 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQIS2HqovgU#)
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Far as I can see they're totally different tricks, done differently. 360 shuv is done like a pop shove it, obviously. You don't pop an impossible, just take off the front foot and scoop it around. I'd say that even 360 shuvs where the foot sort of stays on the grip don't count as impossibles. Dylan and Ed do them properly. Especially with Ed it's easy to see the difference.
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If you do them like the second one, we all know you aren't proud of yourself. Nobody is rushing in here like "HEY I DO THEM LIKE 360 SHUVITS THAT ARE SCOOPED HARD AND I LOVE IT"
As for me... I can't do legit impossibles, I can do hella scooped 360 shuvits that could be maybe played off as impossibles for some children, but I don't do them.
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Ollie Impossible > Dylan's pressure flip looking impossible > toe dangle 3 shuv
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my favorite person to argue about, fuck him, prove that he invented it or any other of the tricks he and they claim he invented.
you honestly think Rodney didn't invent all those tricks?
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Grecos answer to this thread...
https://www.instagram.com/p/BUiLx6QgOQo/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BUiLx6QgOQo/)
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Grecos answer to this thread...
https://www.instagram.com/p/BUiLx6QgOQo/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BUiLx6QgOQo/)
I'm 95% sure Greco checks SLAP and wanted to make a point.
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Grecos answer to this thread...
https://www.instagram.com/p/BUiLx6QgOQo/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BUiLx6QgOQo/)
hard to hate on that.
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The second one could go either way. Spinning it more horizontally does not preclude it from being an impossible. It just looks like his back foot loses contact on the last few frames. And I don't see the scoop action. Vert impossibles have more leeway since they mostly fling it out and catch it anyway.
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It's two different tricks.
Quit debating this
Watch Ed, Rodney, Dylan, fuck even walker Ryan.
If it doesn't look like that it's a 360 shove it
Anyone arguing this can't do both, or you'd know just how different they are
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Ollie Impossible > Dylan's pressure flip looking impossible > toe dangle 3 shuv
? You have any examples?
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my favorite person to argue about, fuck him, prove that he invented it or any other of the tricks he and they claim he invented.
Jed is the first person to have documented switch tres not Rodney, where's that stupid list from the plan b ad, just look at it, it's absurd to claim that list
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Far as I can see they're totally different tricks, done differently. 360 shuv is done like a pop shove it, obviously. You don't pop an impossible, just take off the front foot and scoop it around. I'd say that even 360 shuvs where the foot sort of stays on the grip don't count as impossibles. Dylan and Ed do them properly. Especially with Ed it's easy to see the difference.
Got it. You've never even tried an impossible.
When you scoop an impossible, if you point your toe, rather than wrapping around your foot vertically, it wraps around your pointed toe, giving it a horizontal spin around the foot rather than the vertical one. You can see the difference between an intended 360 shove it and what I'll call a "controversial impossible" by which foot is the axis of the spin. If the front foot stays over it, they meant to 360 shove it. If the back foot stays over/attached when it spins, the person doing it will claim impossible- though apparently many people here will say its not.
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Girls are boys now shit doesn't matter anymore.
Kept your back foot on the board? You did an impossible but you fucking suck.
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if the top of your back shoe touches your griptape you get a cookie.
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It is like claiming a smith grind without touching the ledge/coping with your board, doesn't count. Try again.
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Far as I can see they're totally different tricks, done differently. 360 shuv is done like a pop shove it, obviously. You don't pop an impossible, just take off the front foot and scoop it around. I'd say that even 360 shuvs where the foot sort of stays on the grip don't count as impossibles. Dylan and Ed do them properly. Especially with Ed it's easy to see the difference.
When you scoop an impossible, if you point your toe, rather than wrapping around your foot vertically, it wraps around your pointed toe, giving it a horizontal spin around the foot rather than the vertical one. You can see the difference between an intended 360 shove it and what I'll call a "controversial impossible" by which foot is the axis of the spin. If the front foot stays over it, they meant to 360 shove it. If the back foot stays over/attached when it spins, the person doing it will claim impossible- though apparently many people here will say its not.
new trick name: the sucky impossible is now known as the "controverssible"
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Grecos answer to this thread...
https://www.instagram.com/p/BUiLx6QgOQo/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BUiLx6QgOQo/)
If it doesn't look like this, it's not an impossible.
Dylan's however were so good that they are another trick entirely, within the impossible family but meant only for saints and gods to accomplish.
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Full wrap for it to be a real impossible. I'm in the long process of learning this trick and if I don't see my graphic when I wrap my board, then I don't see it as improvement. It's hard to wrap it every single time, but them's the breaks.
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It's kind of like when you don't fully pop a trick.
Yeah you did the trick, but cmon.
Brother. Hang your toes off the edge of the pocket or tail and just scoop down then suck your feet up
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Far as I can see they're totally different tricks, done differently. 360 shuv is done like a pop shove it, obviously. You don't pop an impossible, just take off the front foot and scoop it around. I'd say that even 360 shuvs where the foot sort of stays on the grip don't count as impossibles. Dylan and Ed do them properly. Especially with Ed it's easy to see the difference.
When you scoop an impossible, if you point your toe, rather than wrapping around your foot vertically, it wraps around your pointed toe, giving it a horizontal spin around the foot rather than the vertical one. You can see the difference between an intended 360 shove it and what I'll call a "controversial impossible" by which foot is the axis of the spin. If the front foot stays over it, they meant to 360 shove it. If the back foot stays over/attached when it spins, the person doing it will claim impossible- though apparently many people here will say its not.
I have tried them quite a bit, actually, though with less success than I would have wished for. Anyways, I think that the kind of impossible that Ed or Greco or Rodney in the gif above does is the real deal. Granted, getting it to wrap vertically is rather difficult, so there's various gradations of sloppiness.
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If it looks like a 360 shuv, it's a 360 shuv
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hahaha, I've had a grudge with him since a demo in '94 or so, so I love to pick on/discredit him, that pigeon toed motherfucker
AHEM
Go on.
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hahaha, I've had a grudge with him since a demo in '94 or so, so I love to pick on/discredit him, that pigeon toed motherfucker
AHEM
Go on.
st. ides had just released some flavored drinks so I was all teenage wasted on them and was feeling great since I had just got done meeting a childhood idol, Sal Barbier, anyway he didn't land a single trick and when I was yelling hey ridney at him he completely ignored me even after I quieted down and tried to say hello like a normal person
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#pressureflipimpossible confirms this is possible
https://www.instagram.com/p/yvxmH7RqcW/?tagged=pressureflipimpossible (https://www.instagram.com/p/yvxmH7RqcW/?tagged=pressureflipimpossible)
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Full wrap for it to be a real impossible. I'm in the long process of learning this trick and if I don't see my graphic when I wrap my board, then I don't see it as improvement. It's hard to wrap it every single time, but them's the breaks.
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It's kind of like when you don't fully pop a trick.
Yeah you did the trick, but cmon.
Brother. Hang your toes off the edge of the pocket or tail and just scoop down then suck your feet up
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hahaha, I've had a grudge with him since a demo in '94 or so, so I love to pick on/discredit him, that pigeon toed motherfucker
AHEM
Go on.
st. ides had just released some flavored drinks so I was all teenage wasted on them and was feeling great since I had just got done meeting a childhood idol, Sal Barbier, anyway he didn't land a single trick and when I was yelling hey ridney at him he completely ignored me even after I quieted down and tried to say hello like a normal person
Count it
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Who would've thought that Sluggo would post a solid impossible back to riding Real decks in 2017?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BUnwNltFcZw/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BUnwNltFcZw/)
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Elijah Berle's name should be mentioned in this thread. There. I did it.
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Who would've thought that Sluggo would post a solid impossible back to riding Real decks in 2017?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BUnwNltFcZw/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BUnwNltFcZw/)
YES!